emote-creations

[west vigil]

i was talking about how like

how are some emotes

upload with two character

on bttv

and i gave xD as an example

[lunar laurel]

ohh

[viscid vigil]

https://7tv.app/emotes/634a279f72672f01c72e4ee8

[lunar laurel]

i swear you’ve done this before

[viscid vigil]

?

no?

[fiery path]

@turbid venture

[turbid venture]

[viscid vigil]

i hate you all

[fiery path]

I hate you too ❤️

[lunar laurel]

https://7tv.app/emotes/634a310c9e9ae5efe290d26c

[sinful ocean]

https://7tv.app/emotes/634a338bf614dc272b1fa6bb

FUCk

I splled crawl wrong

[lunar laurel]

wtf

[brisk bison]

done with halloween forsen emotes 🫴 https://7tv.app/emotes/634aabce66de1b389ae295e0

[tender oasis]

[sly dew]

it's good but why did you render it in gif

[tender oasis]

that's really well made

[sly dew]

@brisk bison could you re-render it?

[brisk bison]

how exactly (in photoshop)

[sly dew]

ok, I'll teach you

[brisk bison]

ok

[sly dew]

you have the timeline, right?

[brisk bison]

its multiple video timelines, but kinda yea

[sly dew]

go to File -> Render Video and export your frames with these settings. things highlighted in red are the most important ones.

done @brisk bison ?

[brisk bison]

okay, rendering

done

[sly dew]

if you go to the folder you've made, you should see each individual frame

[brisk bison]

yes

[sly dew]

do you have ffmpeg?

[brisk bison]

not sure, how to check?

[sly dew]

looks like you don't. download this https://github.com/BtbN/FFmpeg-Builds/releases/download/latest/ffmpeg-master-latest-win64-gpl-shared.zip

then unzip and for now you can put the .exe in the same folder your frames are in

[brisk bison]

ok

[tender oasis]

you can type ffmpeg in your command prompt
if it say cannot find command, you prob dont have it

[sly dew]

it has to be put in your PATH first

[tender oasis]

there's no straight export as webp or avif in photoshop?

or even plugins?

[brisk bison]

it does give me results

[sly dew]

no. there's webp, but it doesn't support animation

[brisk bison]

so i think i had it before

[sly dew]

alright, good

[tender oasis]

or some other program already downloaded it for you

[sly dew]

now, go to your frames folder again

what was the framerate of your document? 25? 30?

[brisk bison]

60

[sly dew]

how are your frames named?

[brisk bison]

Copesen (h)0000

[sly dew]

exactly like that?

[brisk bison]

well the numbers at the end increment

[sly dew]

I mean, with the "(h)" too?

[brisk bison]

yes

[tender oasis]

so
Copesen (h)0000.png Copesen (h)0001.png Copesen (h)0002.png ...

[brisk bison]

yes

[sly dew]

what did you input here? 3 or 4?

[brisk bison]

4 digits

[sly dew]

ok, now open either powershell or cmd

[brisk bison]

ok

i have 212 frames btw

[tender oasis]

can webp go 60fps?

i thought the max is like 30 fps

[sly dew]

if you're in the same folder your frames are in, cvpaste the following: ffmpeg -r 60 -start_number 0 -i "<drive_letter>:\path\to\frames\Copesen (h)%04d.png" -compression_level 6 -lossless 1 -quality 90 -loop 0 -y .\Copesen.webp

[brisk bison]

lets test i guess

[brisk bison]

should i do "cd" with the folder name before this?

[sly dew]

yeah, navigate to your folder first if you aren't there

and then cvpaste my command

[tender oasis]

[brisk bison]

ok it did some shit

[sly dew]

did it generate a webp?

check in the frame folder

[tender oasis]

protip: you can type cmd at your folder navbar to start the path there

[brisk bison]

yes it did

[sly dew]

ok, open it in chrome and test if it looks ok

[tender oasis]

gachiPls 7tv fails to process

[brisk bison]

wow

it looks beautiful

[tender oasis]

how big's the file

[brisk bison]

1.29 MB

[sly dew]

congratulations, now you can fully ditch .gif when making animated emotes for 7tv

[tender oasis]

are there any animated webp/avif plugin for photoshop?

[sly dew]

there is, but like I said, it doesn't support animation natively

you have to render it externally

[brisk bison]

but now it's like choppy https://7tv.app/emotes/634ab2d693942c1f1738865a

on the 7tv site its choppy

when i preview it like a file its fine

[tender oasis]

re-render it with 30fps

[sly dew]

yeah, just replace -r 60 with -r 30

[tender oasis]

i have never seen a 60fps emote, so that prob wouldn't work

[tender oasis]

wouldnt that just slow down the original animation

[sly dew]

that's the framerate option

[tender oasis]

need to skip every 2nd file

[brisk bison]

yea but with 30 fps it became slower, i guess i have to manually change all frames to make it 30 fps

[sly dew]

@brisk bison are you sure the photoshop document framerate was 60?

[brisk bison]

yes

[sly dew]

try editing the original project file I suppose

[tender oasis]

change the framerate here to 30 fps

[sly dew]

that's what I meant, change it in photoshop

[brisk bison]

looks like that worked, thankfully didnt mess up anything with my timelines

thank you very much for teaching me this supa emote hackerman knowledge ❤️

[tender oasis]

i've only used Olive to make animated emotes

[brisk bison]

didnt know that existed before you said it 🫒

[tender oasis]

free video editing software

[brisk bison]

but, ill still have to make gifs for bttv I GUESS

[tender oasis]

YEAHBUTBTTV

just download the gif generated in the 7tv site and upload that

[brisk bison]

wow

good point

[tender oasis]

https://7tv.app/emotes/634ab4d766de1b389ae296af
damn that looks a lot cleaner now

in webp at least

[brisk bison]

almost like the timeline, very nice

did everyone know about this tech?

so good

[tender oasis]

i learnt about this bc Olive's GIF export is so shit
then i found out about exporting image sequence

then compile the image sequence in ezgif

[brisk bison]

i see

[pearl hollow]

ezgif always coming in clutch

[true stratus]

if you want the smoothest emotes make them in 50fps since that's the highest 7tv can go to retain compatibility with GIFs

[tender oasis]

that's a thing

wanna try a 50fps Copesen?

[true stratus]

this one is mostly 33.3fps

[brisk bison]

alright sure

[true stratus]

not that it's that big of a deal but I didn't know that either until quite late

[shy mortar]

for whatever reason I think gifs are capped at 50fps so anything over that defaults back to 10fps hence the choppiness

I believe it applies to webp too but not sure

so if you want a smooth emote just do 50fps when making it

[tender oasis]

imagine the 50fps emote spams

[true stratus]

GIFs apparently work in one-hundredths (1/100) of a second, 1 second = 100ms

[tender oasis]

computer

[true stratus]

delay time: 2ms = (100ms/2 = 50fps)
delay time: 3ms = (100ms/3 = 33.3fps) and so on

[shy mortar]

yeah basically what he said

[brisk bison]

i think 50 fps is becoming a little bit choppy, so 30fps looks kinda better
but this is if you really look at them

or am i going insane

[true stratus]

did u do it frame by frame?

if you didn't do it originally on 50fps, changing it after sometimes can fuck things up

all depends on how u originally made the animation

[brisk bison]

i changed it to 50 fps in ps

idk, maybe its smoother

[true stratus]

nah leave it like it is

https://im3.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-3-019cc8d00b.webp

(50fps) using the same frames it looks smoother but there's not enough frames in the first place so it loops it way quicker

[brisk bison]

well anyways, thanks everyone for this tech, will be using it from now on 🫴 ❤️

[sly dew]

hell yeah, another one to ditch gif

[fiery path]

compression level 6 will be very slow when encoding losslessly on most computers. level 5 or 4 will also be fine most of the time. The issue only arises when the file is too large. At that point you generally need to switch to lossy encoding anyway

[sly dew]

7tv encodes it as lossy either way

[quick copper]

instead of all of that i just put all the frames on ezgif

[umbral radish]

I wish I had cool tech. I have to split a gif into frames and delete backgrounds by hand one by one then recompile the gif

[quick copper]

that doesnt sound fun

[fiery path]

yeah but that's why you want to upload a high quality version so that it only gets a lossy encode once

the highest quality possible

[quick copper]

also means that there's probably a loss of quality when you do that

[lone hemlock]

[true stratus]

I'm pretty sure there are rotoscoping tools for free

[umbral radish]

[quick copper]

i use after effects

but there's probably easier/better tools

[sly dew]

honestly, AE is probably one of the only adobe's tools that doesn't have a direct competitor

[quick copper]

im literally only using it to remove backgrounds for emotes

no idea how to do anything else on it

0 knowledge

[shy sentinel]

It does, but they are very different

And a lot harder to use, and they are usually node based, or whatever they are called, like blender

[sly dew]

there's nuke, but good luck getting that legally

unless you like sell your kidney

so yeah, AE is the only user-friendly one rn

[sly dew]

I didn't like how heavily compressed this looks https://7tv.app/emotes/62bdabde4c5bd11b08aaae5d so I re-created it using actual sprite rips

[fiery path]

that looks amazing

[sly dew]

alternative

that one was rendered at 24 fps originally

[turbid venture]

how are you stitching that

[sly dew]

hm?

[turbid venture]

the ghost zooms in because the sprite gets smaller

when he goes sideways

[sly dew]

oh, must be the bug of using "place" in ps

I could re-create it from scratch altogether and use the original dimensions first

then downscale to 128x128

[turbid venture]

if you do, save this version

you could name it like ghostJAM or something

it looks like he's really banging to a beat

[fiery path]

naaaw

does look enough like a jam emote

doesn't look "wrong" either

no one would notice the sprite scaling issue

[sly dew]

a bold statement from a certified pixel complainer

[fiery path]

well when I say "no one" I mean "no one in twitch chat"

[sly dew]

@turbid venture

[turbid venture]

[sly dew]

tried recreating the shield from sonic 2 https://7tv.app/emotes/634b2c19df30416eb3808930

[pearl hollow]

the gif

ITS NOT JUST THE GIF

[sly dew]

yeah, I figured it might not be easy to look at

[true stratus]

[sly dew]

I should try doing the sonic 3 ones, they're less seizure-inducing

[fiery path]

This is why we need 60 fps support

So you can have animations like old games used without noticeable flashing

[lavish frigate]

https://7tv.app/emotes/634b61e793942c1f173899c0

[viscid vigil]

banger

[gusty wave]

liptongod, reminder from: z󠀀onianmidian - Welcome back (5h, 50m ago)

[viscid vigil]

@native nexus good one

[lavish frigate]

w lipton

[pearl hollow]

[lone hemlock]

naah i gave up on cropping that shit dawg

the hands were semi-invisible every other frame

[lavish frigate]

the black sock also blended in with the carpet

i spent way too much time on that emote

[native nexus]

I forgor 💀

[viscid vigil]

[sly dew]

you know, I wish someone here made a guide on rendering in webp. I've been wanting to, but I always get wrapped up in other stuff

getting as many people off of gif as possible here is my goal

[quick copper]

use ezgif

[sly dew]

no, ezgif compresses videos

what I want is to teach people how to render emotes as losslessly as possible before they're uploaded

[true stratus]

use ezgif but render at 256p

[sly dew]

I'd never use ezgif lol

[shy mortar]

if only programs gave a shit about webp

[fiery path]

based!

There are online webp makers that people can use

To teach people the ways of ffmpeg, you’d also have to teach them the concept of downloading software from GitHub and running it from the command line

For some reason a lot of Windows users aren’t familiar with those

[sly dew]

and yet I was able to get at least 4 people to use it

[fiery path]

True

Just saying, a guide would have to teach a lot of the basics that are very general knowledge

[sly dew]

if you could kickstart making one, I'd appreciate it

[fiery path]

I could

I’d just have to find some free time

[sly dew]

@fiery path what would be a good platform to create a guide on where one could contribute? github?

[fiery path]

probably

I know “read the docs” exists too

Whatever it’s called

IDK anything else about it

[lone hemlock]

New copypasta

[pearl hollow]

as much as we all love to make animated em

congrats or sorry that happened

[lone hemlock]

@sly dew can you send It here

[sly dew]

I'll make it public once I finish making the first draft

[pearl hollow]

As much as we all love to make animated emotes, GIF is a highly outdated format by modern standards. Supporting only 256 colors, limited framerate and no variable transparency, calling it an obsolete format for animated emotes would be an understatement. Luckily, newer formats have been developed as the time went on, such as WebP and AVIF. They allow features GIF majorly lacks, such as control over transparency, full color palette, better compression and smaller file sizes. Since AVIF is still too niche and isn't as widely used yet, this guide will focus on making animated emotes in .webp format.

[lunar laurel]

As much as we all love to make animated emotes, GIF is a highly outdated format by modern standards. Supporting only 256 colors, limited framerate and no variable transparency, calling it an obsolete format for animated emotes would be an understatement. Luckily, newer formats have been developed as the time went on, such as WebP and AVIF. They allow features GIF majorly lacks, such as control over transparency, full color palette, better compression and smaller file sizes. Since AVIF is still too niche and isn't as widely used yet, this guide will focus on making animated emotes in .webp format.

[sly dew]

what would be a good emote to use for tutorial purposes?

I guess I could make something simple like a basic geometric shape

[lone hemlock]

As much as we all love to make animated emotes, GIF is a highly outdated format by modern standards. Supporting only 256 colors, limited framerate and no variable transparency, calling it an obsolete format for animated emotes would be an understatement. Luckily, newer formats have been developed as the time went on, such as WebP and AVIF. They allow features GIF majorly lacks, such as control over transparency, full color palette, better compression and smaller file sizes. Since AVIF is still too niche and isn't as widely used yet, this guide will focus on making animated emotes in .webp format.

[lavish frigate]

As much as we all love to make animated emotes, GIF is a highly outdated format by modern standards. Supporting only 256 colors, limited framerate and no variable transparency, calling it an obsolete format for animated emotes would be an understatement. Luckily, newer formats have been developed as the time went on, such as WebP and AVIF. They allow features GIF majorly lacks, such as control over transparency, full color palette, better compression and smaller file sizes. Since AVIF is still too niche and isn't as widely used yet, this guide will focus on making animated emotes in .webp format.

[sly dew]

lol now you all look stupid

[lone hemlock]

Heh

[fiery path]

I love making animated emotes!

[west vigil]

i love webp

i love avif

why cant we have the old days back of shitty scuffed emotes

now everything has to be super high quality

peepee hands

[umbral radish]

[true stratus]

reject avif, return to gif

[fiery path]

unbased!

[west vigil]

[lavish frigate]

https://7tv.app/emotes/634d036787766b247bcb6edc

https://7tv.app/emotes/634d03d57563dc26cd37d294

[viscid vigil]

ive seen this guy so much on tiktok

[analog mulch]

oh my god

[lunar laurel]

@drowsy slate IM BETTER!!!!!

[drowsy slate]

[tender oasis]

https://7tv.app/emote-sets/633c9ff0b3723828343b296f

https://7tv.app/emotes/6307e5d8170b2d3c2cfc77fb

https://7tv.app/emotes/62ab7da35c0da7850b0b890f

[fiery path]

found this on an old computer. IDK if I ever posted it though

only the original Badge

[viscid vigil]

Founderge

[umbral radish]

The original baj

[tender oasis]

https://7tv.app/emotes/634dec58ab98ce5079959281

[viscid vigil]

good fucking emote

[quick copper]

link it in his chat

[tender oasis]

DinkDonk marc

[lavish frigate]

can i link wide dva ass or nah

[steady beacon]

✊ TSM

[lavish frigate]

https://7tv.app/emotes/634df20fa67d7bf01969445a

[fiery path]

bro that's so low quality

[lavish frigate]

why dont the embeds work

[fiery path]

they've been broken for a while

[lavish frigate]

oh ok

[shy mortar]

TSMon

[pliant saddle]

i would like to ask

what app would one have to use for the LTG thunder effect

[tender oasis]

@lone hemlock 👆

[lone hemlock]

i personally do it on aftereffects but its kinda scuffed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWnogMnNh6Q&t=19s

you could also just use a lightning png, put some rain and do a flashbang effect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6s1fMekqNE

[pliant saddle]

thanks

[sly dew]

approved almost immediately https://7tv.app/emotes/634f11ac87da0f3ff11ceb2f

[pearl hollow]

[quick copper]

https://7tv.app/emotes/611bcf3dc58de65a3b06018e why do so many people have this added? it's not christmas yet

[true stratus]

[quick copper]

ITS NOT TIME YET

[pearl hollow]

[lavish frigate]

yo i made 3 versions of this

should i use the 'versions' feature or upload them separately

different widths

[lone hemlock]

upload the 2nd and 3rd one

separately

[fiery path]

the "versions" feature is meant to be used for updates to emotes

[lavish frigate]

oh ok

[turbid venture]

yeah users will only see the one version if they search for it

[fiery path]

in the future, I believe the goal is for versions to be advertised to channels that have an emote enabled, saying "a new version of this emote is available" and allow people to preview the new one, and replace the old one if they prefer the update.

[turbid venture]

divergant versions arent a thing yet

[fiery path]

diversions

[lavish frigate]

fair enough

[lavish frigate]

https://7tv.app/emotes/634f4059c3b9653a8a7de39c
https://7tv.app/emotes/634f40766a702af9d79433f4
https://7tv.app/emotes/634f409142c67ad082159bc1

[umbral radish]

Who's that

[pearl hollow]

they will be 2 different things

[fiery path]

what will be? I only mentioned 1 thing

[pearl hollow]

versions will be separate from variants/diversions

names obv need work, but versions as they exist now will still be a thing for updates, they wont change into variants

[lavish frigate]

ishowspeed

[lone hemlock]

added

[lavish frigate]

[fiery path]

I know that, and said what I said with that fact in mind

https://7tv.app/emotes/634f48e26daa9c559b8b5fdd

thoughts?

I got tired of seeing the scuffed version

is this less scuffed? I'm not entirely sure

[pearl hollow]

bg looks better

[fiery path]

[viscid vigil]

[shy mortar]

@sly dew yo can you help me with something

or anyone else that's smart with emote fps and shit

actually

new updated emote version of Awesome
https://7tv.app/emotes/634f4e233654adde37e75703

[lone hemlock]

👍

[shy mortar]

time to continue remaking emotes i didn't remake yet so i can move off bttv permanently

[viscid vigil]

banger

[shy mortar]

that took so long to do

so i'd hope so

time to remake

[fiery path]

fps?

I play overwatch. That's a first person shooter. Maybe I can help

[shy mortar]

[shy mortar]

barely any change but new version of Awkward is out
https://7tv.app/emotes/634f68b92a7ca137a88bcce7

[lunar laurel]

https://7tv.app/emotes/634f74ea37860ccc4fb355d5

[lavish frigate]

it looks like the legs are spinning around

it also sometimes looks like the legs are clapping

if you look hard enough

[tender oasis]

Legcopter

[thick grove]

what do you use for crop/pan on linux? kdenlive?

[lunar laurel]

i’m convinced anson does everything in the terminal

[tender oasis]

Anson looks at values of every single pixel in terminal and complains

[thick grove]

I mean... you can dump frames and use python to...

[fiery path]

I complain AS I'm inputting the pixel values into the terminal

[fiery path]

I personally use Blender for a lot of stuff, but I have also used DaVinky Resolve

I haven't used kdenlive but I'm sure it's capable

[tender oasis]

For the record, it's DaVinci Resolve
Anson got too much juice in his brain

[fiery path]

🤓 umm actually it's "DaVinci Resolve"

🤓 I thought maybe it wouldn't be obvious

oh but also, yes it actually is possible to do basic cropping and panning in "the terminal" by using ffmpeg

IDK how to do it, but I'm sure it can

[thick grove]

https://tenor.com/view/whot-gif-25825577

yeah you can use filters for chromakey etc too, but I was thinking of carving out a subject like in vegas

I've used ffmpeg for most things, I think it'd be easier to do that all in python on each frame though

[sly dew]

what is it

[shy mortar]

fixed it dw

basically had to make a 60 fps emote into 50 fps

[sly dew]

what did you do?

[shy mortar]

time stretch in after effects to the number of frames I had for the version I liked

basically made it 20% faster to fix the fps gap

[true stratus]

@shy mortar surely you're not gonna update every emote to 50fps now

[shy mortar]

nah I just completely remade a roto for an emote and it was sped up after the fact with ez gif

[true stratus]

https://7tv.app/emotes/635042b307575733ced9cd6e

[lunar laurel]

[lone hemlock]

Why background

[true stratus]

?

[lone hemlock]

There's a Black bg for me, prob mobile glitch or something

[shy mortar]

[quick copper]

does this look like a crochet hat?

[pearl hollow]

no

[shy mortar]

looks kinda like a beanie

[quick copper]

supposed to resemble this

[pearl hollow]

crochet stitches are like intertwined

so like a V almost

heres a similar stitch

[viscid vigil]

🛴

[pearl hollow]

?

[viscid vigil]

another way of saying

[pearl hollow]

i dont watch forsen idk what that emote means

[viscid vigil]

oh

its like but forsen

[pearl hollow]

ok idk who that is or what that means either

[viscid vigil]

not a old friend

it just mean you are very interested in it, like if you were saying a fact or something

you go

[fiery path]

"very interested"

used sarcastically

[viscid vigil]

[pearl hollow]

yea i was gonna say, gac does not react to my shit with genuine interest

lipton fr lying to me

[viscid vigil]

[quick copper]

looks better imo

still looks too much like a beanie tbh

but i still think thats fine

[pearl hollow]

yea looks good

[true stratus]

https://7tv.app/emotes/635131d213c788b85de9bc1d

global emote material right here

[tender oasis]

add 7 at the back
or make it 0-width

[lunar laurel]

[jade solstice]

i can hear this emote

[gusty wave]

v󠀀myk is no longer AFK: (6d, 19h ago)

[quick copper]

[quick copper]

https://7tv.app/emotes/635084afa90e68a5866aaf1d too hd

[sly dew]

but rendered as gif

[quick copper]

cuz its stolen from bttv

[sly dew]

bttv emotes get stolen, 7tv emotes get stolen, then reuploads from bttv processed by 7tv get stolen aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[tender oasis]

wait actually a good idea
upload to bttv -> yoink and upload to 7tv yoink then upload to bttv -> yoink and upload to 7tv yoink then upload to bttv -> yoink and upload to 7tv
see how the compression goes

[sly dew]

the same way forsen's webcam goes whenever there's too much shit on screen

[tender oasis]

[sly dew]

in actuality, I doubt the compression will change too much after the 2nd phase since 7tv doesn't compress as heavily as it used to

[quick copper]

you still need to change it to 112x112

to upload to bttv

[shy mortar]

resize compression

[sly dew]

I'm gonna do something you kiddos refer to as "based". I'll get a bdrip of killer bean forever and render this straight from the cow's teat https://7tv.app/emotes/611523959bf574f1fded6d72

[shy mortar]

[lunar laurel]

[true stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR4KHfqw-oE

someone do this but with emotes

[sly dew]

https://7tv.app/emotes/635180c24edd483560faf0b9 I'm not sure why the webp version has artifacts

the original file doesn't

[fiery path]

you're right. it WAS based of you

webp always has artifacts compared to avif

[shy mortar]

Looks fine to me

[fiery path]

it's encoded at a lower quality

webp is already larger than avif

if the bitrate was higher, it would be even worse

[sly dew]

it also looks smaller because that's the only width that works with x128 height

[fiery path]

yeah not every emote needs to be 384 pixels wide

( )

[sly dew]

fyi I have the original cropped clip if anyone wants it

[fiery path]

nah this upload is fine

except we need people to actually use it!

instead of the super scuffed gif upload

[sly dew]

iirc toe said there are gonna be version suggestions

[fiery path]

yeah

eventually

someday ™️

Ideally mods would just be able to merge versions by different people together into a single emote, once the "auto version update" stuff is in place.

then everyone could just update to the new versions of emotes with a single click

reducing friction for users is important

[pearl hollow]

thing is some people want scuffed or low quality so we can't force these reuploads on them

[fiery path]

yeah

but it wouldn't be an "unattended" upgrade

the editor/streamer would still have to click "update" on the emotes

or "update all"

[pearl hollow]

a bit less friction with the new replace option at least

[fiery path]

In my mind, I see it appearing as a notification in the 7tv "inbox" saying there are new versions for (#) emotes available, and clicking that would take them to a list of emotes that have new versions, showing the currently-enabled version next to the latest version, with "update" buttons next to each one, and an "update all" button at the bottom (or top I guess)

[quick copper]

Can I have it plz

[sly dew]

later, I'm doing something

[quick copper]

I wanted to make something with it for a while but was putting it

Okok

[fiery path]

and maybe an "update all" button on the inbox notification as well, to reduce friction further. The vast majority of people don't prefer scuffed versions

[pearl hollow]

+500 pings daily, perfect for ping collectors

[fiery path]

nah it would only be a single ping

for any number of updates

the ping would just have the # of emotes listed

[pearl hollow]

yea I'd prefer that

[fiery path]

That's the only way I ever envisioned it happening

1 ping per emote would be WAYTOODANK

Now, this next part depends on how much "responsibility" you want to entrust upon mods performing version merges/approvals, but there could be an opt-in check box to enable "auto-updates", which would be unattended.

you'd just have to make sure that the versions were truly just higher quality, and not modified in any meaningful way

[true stratus]

HDR emotes when?

[fiery path]

maybe when mods approve versions, they could tick a box to say whether or not the emote is changed at all aside from quality. (Speed, number of "pause" frames, traced/redrawn versions, etc.)

[pearl hollow]

what do u mean exactly when u say merge

also theres currently no way for us to tell if an emote in queue is a version, we have to go to the full emote page to check

[fiery path]

like, sunk made a better version of DIESOFCRINGE. That would need to be merged into the "original" (I assume it wasn't also uploaded by sunk)

[pearl hollow]

that is not what a merge is

[fiery path]

yeah that's one of the things that'll need to be fixed first

[pearl hollow]

if we merged sunks upload into the original, sunks upload would disappear

[fiery path]

I know

[pearl hollow]

they dont stay on the website

[fiery path]

I'm using the term "merge" as non-7tv term

just a general word

[pearl hollow]

if we merge the original into sunks, we would indeed update it for 33k people, which isnt reasonable

its not a choice we should make for them

[fiery path]

bruh I explained how it would work

you wouldn't be making the decision for them

[pearl hollow]

youre using the same word as an existing feature, it does get confusing

[fiery path]

well when I say "merge versions" I'm not talking about the existing feature

[pearl hollow]

i get that im just trying to understand

[fiery path]

I'm talking about converting an emote into a "version" of another emote

but retaining the artist

[pearl hollow]

ok yeah converting or combining works for me

that makes me understand better

[fiery path]

👍

[pearl hollow]

personally i'd need to see a realistic way to make this work without mods having to spend minutes on every emote on the website

we're working out ways to make it easier on us with personal emotes in the future so we might be moving towards it anyway

[fiery path]

well hopefully the number of emotes with new versions would be relatively few. Only a small percentage of emote uploads would be new versions of existing uploads

Maybe you could have a separate queue specifically for versions so pixel complainers could inspect them a bit more thoroughly than just the usual "is it NSFW?" style review.

[sly dew]

the one thing I really wish there was a source of is the nerd emoji animation

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerdge-gif-23738139

this one

the only upload with a transparent bg I could find was the one on pinterest, but that's not the true source

[shy mortar]

Probably similar source to

[lunar laurel]

no that’s a different one

[sly dew]

no, not that one. it likely comes from some gif pack

or a sticker pack

[shy mortar]

https://www.daz3d.com/emotiguy

[sly dew]

either way, I doubt we'll find the original model + motion to render in blender

[shy mortar]

I mean, chatting comes from it too

might be from daz 3d

[fiery path]

I thought that yellow emote guy's name was "joe"

[shy mortar]

I've seen people call him simon

[true stratus]

[fiery path]

the "Nerd" emote (or "pog" which is a funnier name) is fine as it is IMO

no distortion is visible

[lunar laurel]

[fiery path]

https://7tv.app/emotes/619b2bed70bd995987959f76

[lunar laurel]

“n-no dis-dis-distoortion is visible”

[true stratus]

[fiery path]

there are so many reuploads of that emote

[lunar laurel]

well its popular elsewhere as well. makes sense

[shy mortar]

Cosmetic mod queue

[fiery path]

lule

they should be merged tbh

[lunar laurel]

[lunar laurel]

link them all

[fiery path]

I just searched for "nerd" and saw like 5 on the first page

[lunar laurel]

[shy mortar]

Don't think mods can really merge anymore

[fiery path]

rip

7tv is still a WIP

[lunar laurel]

merging’s gonezo?

[shy mortar]

not positive

[fiery path]

negative!

[shy mortar]

[lunar laurel]

so what happens to popular reuploads does it just stay there indefinitely

[fiery path]

nah they'll get merged in the future

(copege)

[shy mortar]

^

[fiery path]

the feature just needs to be readded

there is so much work left to do poor anatole

[shy mortar]

I think they wanted to change how merging is done

don't quote me tho I can't remember

[fiery path]

"don't quote me tho"
-hyru 2022

[shy mortar]

[fiery path]

I'm so sillE

[shy mortar]

probably can still merge stuff but they're not gonna just go around merging dupes bc it's a big process

[fiery path]

yeah

[shy mortar]

more like a case by case basis

[fiery path]

I'd be glad to help with the merging process

[shy mortar]

same

[fiery path]

I know it would be a lot of work (that's related to pixel complaining batchest)

[shy mortar]

I'm sure other pixel complainers wouldn't mind helping as well

[fiery path]

AI emote detection needs to exist, and then when someone reuploads the emote, it'll say "this emote seems to already exist: (shows the emote) would you like to add or alias this emote instead?"

[true stratus]

just imaging anson downloading emotes, comparing metadata and shit

[fiery path]

nah I'm sure that all gets stripped away when it's uploaded

surely

[true stratus]

only one way to find out

[fiery path]

7 mb of metadata, 1 byte of actual emote

[lunar laurel]

7tv doesnt read your metadata and triangulate your location

[shy mortar]

fake news

[fiery path]

but srsly this would be so good

[shy mortar]

might be a pain to code tho

[fiery path]

if it's actually a higher quality version of the emote, or a false-positive, they can upload it anyway and it'll get marked for a mod review

but I'm sure people would be happy to skip the approval process if the emote already exists, right?

They probably just don't know what the emote is called

[lunar laurel]

DAWG

[fiery path]

because it's probably a gif they stole from discord or tenor

[lunar laurel]

WE DONT NEED AI MACHINE LEARNING TO IDENTIFY SIMILAR EMOTES

[fiery path]

we do though

[lunar laurel]

[fiery path]

because it needs to be automated

[west vigil]

whatever it is it better be better than bttvs one

[lunar laurel]

imagine having to make it scan 20k emotes every tome one user wanted to upload something

[fiery path]

ain't nobody got time for reviewing every emote

[west vigil]

i tried uploading TENK and it thought it was a banana emote

tenk is just a

[fiery path]

nah it wouldn't scan them every time that's silly

[lunar laurel]

wait bttv has it??

[west vigil]

YES???

[lunar laurel]

how it work then

[west vigil]

to prevent "reposting"

[fiery path]

well I'm not an AI expert, but ideally it would operate similarly to Shazam

building a database of identifiable features and just referencing that

Shazam is still witchcraft. I don't really understand it

[lunar laurel]

finally, the vr chat streamer plague is gone

[fiery path]

real?

[lunar laurel]

[fiery path]

$afk

[gusty wave]

ansonx10 is now AFK: (no message)

[lunar laurel]

wtf

man had to go

[shy mortar]

wouldn't it just be cached

[lunar laurel]

yeah but new uploads

i guess the mod would see that in the queue tho

[shy mortar]

[pearl hollow]

yes we can?

[shy mortar]

misunderstood, mb

[pearl hollow]

it for sure is a bit of a process since its still on the old site but it fully works

and youre correct that its kinda on a case by case basis

[shy mortar]

yeah that's what I meant to say at first

[fiery path]

I'm bak

[pearl hollow]

i'll have a look at the nerd emotes now

[gusty wave]

ansonx10 is no longer AFK: (no message) (15m, 20s ago)

[fiery path]

make sure you merge into this one https://7tv.app/emotes/619b2bed70bd995987959f76

unless you see a higher quality one

[pearl hollow]

no

we merge into first upload

if they are exact

[fiery path]

Why not merge into the least-scuffed version?

[pearl hollow]

cause some people want other crops, other dimensions, or dont mind that theyre scuffed

again we cant make that decision for them

its not just "merge into highest quality"

[fiery path]

so you're saying you only merge absolutely identical versions into the earliest version

makes sense

[pearl hollow]

yes

just keeping it as objective as possible

[fiery path]

yeah that's totally fair

but I can't wait for version merges

where people will be offered a higher quality version

[pearl hollow]

"merges"

for example these are not a fair merge cause theyre different dimensions
https://7tv.app/emotes/62fc030fff32dbb3746a08e0
https://7tv.app/emotes/6134bc74f67d73ea27e44b0f
https://7tv.app/emotes/619b2bed70bd995987959f76

[fiery path]

it just makes me sad to see the most scuffed versions also be the most popular

[pearl hollow]

yea i get you

these two are extremely close in quality but not exact
https://7tv.app/emotes/619b2bed70bd995987959f76
https://7tv.app/emotes/61c00420ff83845672f69a98

[lunar laurel]

thats not even an “i prefer this slightly different quality” thing at that point

[true stratus]

https://7tv.app/emotes/60a4038db0dc46d7b43df99a

[lunar laurel]

its a “i was linked this emote and added itl

[true stratus]

there are 34k channels peepochatting out of their minds

[pearl hollow]

yea a quality different this minor is hard

[fiery path]

I think buhbai's Nerd is just a reupload of Brian's with worse quality

which can happen naturally when you reupload an emote

[pearl hollow]

yea

[fiery path]

probably because he wanted to name it to Nerdge tbh

imagine not knowing what aliases are

[shy mortar]

aliases

[pearl hollow]

u wouldnt believe the amount of uploads we get with just renames

actually u probably would believe it

but its

[shy mortar]

doesn't merging automatically apply an alias anyways tho

[pearl hollow]

it does yeah

just annoying to do it

[shy mortar]

[pearl hollow]

see emote in queue, click, open full, find original, copy code, open reupload on old website, merge

[shy mortar]

imagine if it was automated

[pearl hollow]

no thx

[true stratus]

[pearl hollow]

whats that one spongebob screaming emote u always use hyru

[quick copper]

[pearl hollow]

i cant search for just "laugh" on the website

[shy mortar]

that's what it's called tho

[lunar laurel]

catshit site

[shy mortar]

search with case sensitive exact match

[lunar laurel]

only took 4 page https://7tv.app/emotes/61e90704699aab943eab9302

[pearl hollow]

thanks 👍

[shy mortar]

Cosmetic search options

[pearl hollow]

got bad news for you

someone uploaded higher quality 😔

[quick copper]

https://7tv.app/emotes/60b257878fbc2479a2d7403c
https://7tv.app/emotes/61e90704699aab943eab9302
https://7tv.app/emotes/60e6157295151c533d63c205
https://7tv.app/emotes/60ee941f119bd10947f3b9e2
https://7tv.app/emotes/62720ab46fc5e131afe3b53e

[pearl hollow]

as per ansons request i must merge 😔

[shy mortar]

mine is a remake of the source tho

[quick copper]

man wtf

[shy mortar]

how would it be any higher quality

[pearl hollow]

thank you trippy

https://7tv.app/emotes/635175c5a289c0f38fca51a3

[shy mortar]

cropped

[pearl hollow]

hence the anson joke

[lunar laurel]

why does ios add a white bg to pngs?

[quick copper]

[shy mortar]

advice:

[pearl hollow]

some of these can actually be merged nice

[shy mortar]

[quick copper]

merge all of them to the last one i sent

[shy mortar]

merged into mine right

[pearl hollow]

[shy mortar]

which one is "higher quality"

[pearl hollow]

the one i linked, it was a joke cause of the above convo with anson, since its cropped it can be approved

[shy mortar]

[shy sentinel]

https://7tv.app/emotes/6351aec7fd42d0a7e4a0990e
Saw one emote low quality, tried to up it

[quick copper]

7

[shy sentinel]

https://7tv.app/emotes/60b0a2768e27a621a7cf5121
Original

[quick copper]

looks really good

[shy mortar]

good emote

[lunar laurel]

[fiery path]

absolutely massive

[pearl hollow]

if anyone knows/comes by this in a better quality pls let me know https://7tv.app/emotes/60b1213aa306998e349e73c0

[shy mortar]

pretty sure that's a remake of another one

[quick copper]

https://7tv.app/emotes/6297a1ae441e9cea5e91fb83 this one is a lot faster but looks less scuffed overall

[shy mortar]

same emote

[quick copper]

it looks like catshit on tenor too

cant find anything decent

[livid lark]

why everyone saying catshit now

did dogshit get canceled

[steady beacon]

forsen

[viscid vigil]

[quick copper]

i just got used to saying that instead of dogshit

[tender oasis]

CATSHIT

[quick copper]

[tender oasis]

https://7tv.app/emotes/6351e66a63774e8bdb019e9f

[quick copper]

@lunar laurel

[cloud gazelle]

now what the hell is this

[fresh pelican]

silly emote

[tender oasis]

https://7tv.app/emotes/6351ec0d599a9a94e3b6044d

[lavish frigate]

@pearl hollow https://7tv.app/emotes/6352226e78dfb6951047a6a5

[pearl hollow]

holy deliver

that's great thank u

[lavish frigate]

np

[lunar laurel]

[sly dew]

ok, that does it, I'm gonna finish the first draft of my guide today

I'm getting more and more deranged when I see gif emotes

[sly dew]

could you re-render it in webp? there's the hacky ezgif way and the nerd way

[true stratus]

normalize GIF shaming

[lavish frigate]

i cant do it rn but i will later

[lavish frigate]

please do

[sly dew]

can anyone with photoshop test something for me?

[shy mortar]

and what's that

[sly dew]

almost done with the guide

[shy mortar]

[brisk bison]

✋️

[sly dew]

waiting on anson's edits if he's got any

[true stratus]

surely it's not just text without illustrations

[sly dew]

wrong, with illustrations my friend

[pearl hollow]

rate my new emote made in ezgif https://7tv.app/emotes/6352faf946abadc7857ba4b3

the gif preview is actually funny

[sly dew]

thanks for proving my point saffy

[pearl hollow]

i dont see a reason to tryhard an emote like that tbf

[sly dew]

this is exactly how it'd look like if it was a gif

[pearl hollow]

yes? but its an avif

im saying that i'd just never go through the trouble of programs etc for an emote like this, its not worth the effort

[shy mortar]

tbf not really needed for that type of emote

so it makes sense

[steady beacon]

gif butchered

[lunar laurel]

[fiery path]

I keep seeing amogus in the gif

bro

there are so many frames

[lunar laurel]

[pearl hollow]

theres like 300 frames

[fiery path]

there are a lot of redundant frames too

I went ahead and deleted a lot of them when making the above amogus-only gif

but I may have missed a few

[pearl hollow]

oh ok perfect 👍

[lavish frigate]

@sly dew i need ur guide pls

[fiery path]

💀 goofy ahh emote

[quick copper]

it looks more like it's morphing into the next frame than an actual animation

what's wrong with this one? https://7tv.app/emotes/6352226e78dfb6951047a6a5

[fiery path]

yeah that one is better

still a goofy emote, even when it's animating correctly

[lavish frigate]

nothings wrong with that one

[quick copper]

i dont like the diaper he has

[lavish frigate]

just trying to make it a webp

instead of a gif

[quick copper]

how did you make it? do you have it split into frames?

like different frames saved individually?

[lavish frigate]

honestly

i forgot what i did but im good now

i found this plugin https://github.com/webmproject/WebPShop/releases

[quick copper]

im legit curious how you made it though

if you dont mind me asking

[lavish frigate]

i remade the original one and used flowframes to make it 50fps

but there isnt a animated webp option but there is a webp image sequence

[fiery path]

if the original source is a gif, you're not really gonna improve the quality meaningfully

[lavish frigate]

which one would you prefer 1 or 2
1

2

1 is made for gif and 2 is a bit blurred but for webp

[quick copper]

2 for me

[shy mortar]

1 imo

since the outline is darker

[pearl hollow]

2 i think

[shy mortar]

2 if you can make the outline darker

[lavish frigate]

nah i cant

too much work

[shy mortar]

i feel like it'll be harder to tell the details apart when it's smaller then in that case

especially when blurred

[lavish frigate]

how do i make a webp emote with ez gif

[shy mortar]

https://ezgif.com/webp-maker

works the exact same way

i recommend exporting your emote as a png sequence tho

[lavish frigate]

it comes out really slow

[shy mortar]

what is the fps of the emote?

[lavish frigate]

1 sec

48 frames

[shy mortar]

why 48 fps

[shy mortar]

if you're talking about delay time this won't work

minimum delay time is 2

[lavish frigate]

no i meant 1 sec as in hold on

[shy mortar]

okay

[lavish frigate]

my b

[shy mortar]

fixed?

[lavish frigate]

photoshop wont let me export the layers to png

hold on

[shy mortar]

just make it in after effects

way simpler

[lavish frigate]

ok

[sly dew]

fucking hell, google doc doesn't support animated webp

[analog mulch]

Google product not supporting a Google creation

[true stratus]

@sly dew you might wanna add ratio explanations in that guide

[quick copper]

Yeah, I save it manually as a PNG because the save as sequence does it weird

I save each one as 'frame x' in the same folder and then you add all of them to ezgif

That way you don't care about the fps and you can tinker with the settings on the site

[sly dew]

hm?

wdym?

[true stratus]

#help-old message

emotes can be searched based on aspect ratios now

[sly dew]

does that actually affect the guide though?

[true stratus]

not really, just a little extra information

[sly dew]

alright, the guide should be done

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m2whiuDUb0BosDAFF50ethssL00aFf0fqncPtXP1joo/edit

[sly dew]

I hope I made it more or less pleb-friendly

[umbral radish]

Needing to buy photoshop for emotes

[sly dew]

"buy"

you can use any image editor as long as it supports exporting image sequences

[true stratus]

there probably needs to be a comparison thingy first on the actual advantages (with examples)

[sly dew]

I agree but the problem is that I'd have to make them external links again

[true stratus]

goes google docs support GIFs

[sly dew]

hmm would would be a good emote?

[true stratus]

any emote that has sharp edges since it's a gif and remastered one with webp/avif

or peepoVanish to show the variable transparency

[sly dew]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/62ec1cfdd2e11183867d8c3b/4x.webp I like this one. it also showcases partial transparency

[true stratus]

on the left you could show how it would look as gif and on the right side how it actually looks rn

side by side comparisons are the easiest to understand

[sly dew]

[umbral radish]

Fade out?

[true stratus]

yeah but also the dithering one which is sort of okay sometimes but is harder to do

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/62ec1cfdd2e11183867d8c3b/4x.gif

[sly dew]

could you find me an emote with lots of colors?

gif would limit those to 256

[true stratus]

https://7tv.app/emotes/618bfd65b1eb03daac7d2701

this is a gif upload but I can try uploading as webp/avif later

[sly dew]

yes, perfect

[sly dew]

I think this will do actually

it perfectly illustrates the limitations of gif's color palette

[true stratus]

that's probably mostly bc of compression tbh but it's propaganda that I support

https://im2.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-2-16d793b427.gif

same emote in gif

[tender oasis]

pin this

[sly dew]

yeah, upload the peepo one

I can do it for you if you have the frames @true stratus

[true stratus]

https://7tv.app/emotes/6353d57a0aca82f0126f7902

barely noticable

I think you might have to edit something in higher bit depth to notice actual difference in color quality

https://7tv.app/emotes/631eb2f96b393638bc01ad2d

[sly dew]

ohhh, good one

[true stratus]

actually wait I'm not sure if that's actual 32 bit or just "upscaled" to 32 because all webp versions on 7tv are 32 bit

@fiery path did u render that in 8 bit or higher

[sly dew]

keksimus maximus

[true stratus]

that's a good example for variable transparency

[quick copper]

there is difference though

[true stratus]

that's mostly bc of compression I think

[quick copper]

idk but there's way less flickering particles

so it's a better version regardless

[true stratus]

GIF

WEBP

there u go @sly dew

[livid lark]

~16,700,000 colors instead of 256

[true stratus]

wtf is this shit

[rocky coral]

approve my emotes https://7tv.app/users/60c3710e928bb8ef3a8c30ee

cant upload bcz too many pending approval

[graceful vale]

huh

[tender oasis]

nam underscore underscore underscore

[graceful vale]

just wait bruh

patience is the key

omega El why El

[quick copper]

wasnt namE and forsenWall emotes before?

[rocky coral]

they are my emotes :) i just forgot to upload them before

[quick copper]

yeah, i know theyre yours

just thought youve uploaded them before

[pearl hollow]

@rocky coral i gotchu

[rocky coral]

[pearl hollow]

lmk if u see any duplicates, I'll merge them onto yours

[rocky coral]

i still get "Error: Rate Limit Reached: You have too many emotes pending approval! (429 )"

[pearl hollow]

oh

I didn't approve them from q so they might still be there

checking

ok should be ok now

[rocky coral]

can merge be the other way around keeping the emote on the 1st user's account and making it use the image i uploaded

[sly dew]

added

[rocky coral]

https://7tv.app/emotes/60b130a3f7d3c8cf66a30017
https://7tv.app/emotes/618e3b9f17e4d50afc0d224d
first one has a donk frame at the end

[quick copper]

why is it suddenly shaking?

🤨

https://7tv.app/emotes/635160a001610147d8afebb3
https://7tv.app/emotes/619002c1b1eb03daac7d997d

[pearl hollow]

we try not to make changes like this and make the decision for users, but i'll ask the other mods

[rocky coral]

maybe the uploader can upload the fixed one as a new version

but i think enabled channels stay on the old version?

[true stratus]

yeah

[pearl hollow]

yea

[sly dew]

@livid lark would be nice if the guide was somewhere on the website

[livid lark]

the what

[sly dew]

the webp guide I made https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m2whiuDUb0BosDAFF50ethssL00aFf0fqncPtXP1joo/edit

maybe that'd encourage some people to hop off of gif

[storm quartz]

surely people will read

[sly dew]

https://tenor.com/view/president-not-to-read-elected-simpsons-gif-10792961

[pearl hollow]

assuming anatole checks what we talk about

[sly dew]

we should find someone to test the guide on

but who

[fiery path]

well, when talking about "8-bit color" they usually mean "8 bits per channel" (also known as bpc)

you have 4 channels: RGBA
4*8=32

so 8 bpc = "32 bit color"

[sly dew]

64 bits

32 bits

[fiery path]

no

very stale meme

[sly dew]

hey anson the guide is live

[fiery path]

nice

Blender can output 16 bits per channel, but I don't think I've tried making webps with those

[sly dew]

to think I wouldn't have developed this pixel ocd had I not met you a few months ago

[fiery path]

lol

[lunar laurel]

timing https://youtu.be/XobSAXZaKJ8 1 hour ago

[sly dew]

but hey, I've gotten some people to use webp so that's a plus

[fiery path]

he's copying me!

[lunar laurel]

sue him

[fiery path]

@sly dew you might want to throw in there that currently the 7tv processor only uses gif timings, so it's limited to 10 ms increments, meaning specifying 30 fps becomes 33.3333 and such

[lunar laurel]

https://7tv.app/emotes/6354210bc72a6cad1b3df1a5 anson what’s your opinion on this

not only did you make a better version, but someone reposted a shit version and made it shittier

[fiery path]

nah this is the original gif from bttv

or one of the many "original" bttv gifs

[lunar laurel]

and it’s shit

[fiery path]

all the bttv and ffz frogs don't realize you can just alias emotes to rename them, instead of uploading a copy

Gonna put that on the website nitpick list

[lunar laurel]

someone should make a 7tv tutorial on yt

[true stratus]

https://youtu.be/aFxx4jVRHME

[sly dew]

so 24=24.3333 or?

[true stratus]

biggest pixel complainer I know, but he's right

[lunar laurel]

even bigger than anson?

[true stratus]

many many times more

[lunar laurel]

[fiery path]

it would be 25

because the closest you can get is 40 ms of frame delay

[sly dew]

wrong ping

[true stratus]

25 what

[fiery path]

oh yeah wrong ping

[true stratus]

[sly dew]

I think most people wouldn't notice the difference

[fiery path]

I blame gac for posting on the same frame as I was clicking the reply button

[lunar laurel]

[fiery path]

yeah they won't, but it might be helpful to include that so people understand why their emotes end up at a different speed than they created them

In theory, it should also be possible to alternate between (for example) 30 ms and 40 ms frame delays with the right frequency to get an average of 30 fps.

[sly dew]

k

[fiery path]

it might be more clear to just include a list of the resulting fps

[pearl hollow]

https://7tv.app/emotes/6354210bc72a6cad1b3df1a5
https://7tv.app/emotes/60aeb46de90f445e4393d908

[sly dew]

if you calculate them, I will

[pearl hollow]

thats a merge

[fiery path]

16.666, 20, 25, 33.333, 50

[sly dew]

and the originals?

[fiery path]

originals what?

[sly dew]

the original fps without the gif timings

[lunar laurel]

everyone’s always said this

besides the chromaticity part

[fiery path]

no you can just specify all the possible output timings, so people can make their emotes with that speed in mind

[quick copper]

there's someone who reuploads emote as 112x128

the only difference i see is the ratio, the emote itself looks exactly the same

[fiery path]

that's the only way to make 112x112 emotes look correct

without getting resampled

[sly dew]

yeah

[quick copper]

yeah, but my point is that its a reupload

[sly dew]

7tv hard-locks the height to 128

[fiery path]

by adding some extra blank pixels above and/or below to make it 128

[quick copper]

and shouldnt be approved

[fiery path]

They are different though

they aren't simply a reupload

I've made many of them myself. It actually takes a few minutes to do

[quick copper]

it literally takes a minute to do