alright thats what i thought
#bugs-and-stuff
humble pelican
for now you can at least pinpoint which extension is conflicting by disabling them one by one
i think this is a one liner fix
wise violet
50 extensions
wise violet
its the ad blocker then 
which ad blocker, to be specific
fyi alot of them are malware
carmine mantle
It's 2021. Everything is a technically malware. :)
raw abyss
raw abyss
It's 2021. Everything is a technically malware. :)
you're not wrong LMFAO
wise violet
you lied again
wise violet
if I had to bet I would say its pop up blocker
since it says it blocks overlays and such
raw abyss
I had to disable both of them
carmine mantle
uBlock ... Goto settings. Lists and purge caches.
raw abyss
for it to work
once again
I lied
This is what is causing the error
If users have this, they have to whitelist it for it to work. If they just do "one time" option, it will give them that error.
Weird
nocturne saddle
why doesn't my 7 ttv emotes menu not showing and when i disable FFZ i see my 7 ttv emotes menu
humble pelican
why doesn't my 7 ttv emotes menu not showing and when i disable FFZ i see my 7 t...
intended - when ffz is detected the extension integrates with it and 7tv emotes appears in its menu
nocturne saddle
but i love your emote wheel that why
so is it a way to see your emotes menu without integrated it
humble pelican
a few others asked, i'll most likely add it back in a later version
possibly as an option under FFZ settings
nocturne saddle
i see your emotes under ffz emote menu but i love the look of your emote menu so if it is possible to ask them to add it back or you dont know the ishe
wise violet
a few others asked, i'll most likely add it back in a later version
you might as well, it'd make sense since you overwrite tab complete in ffz too, to just handle the whole chat box
and just leave emote rendering to ffz
when neccissary
nocturne saddle
ok
rugged sable
<:dankShrug:836372245823488020> you might as well, it'd make sense since you ove...
The thing is people will complain no matter what before we had people saying they dont like the menu now we have people saying we like it 
narrow matrix
I personally have bttv and ffz downloaded so that i can turn off bttv emotes and auto-claim points
visual lava
Navigating to the profile of somebody with a coloured name, like an admin, then clicking to view your own profile produces the visual bug of giving your name the same colour as the profile you were just on
real zealot
i think that's on github already
visual lava
oh ok my bad
Double clicking an emote in the emote search page brings you back to the home page
Click to set an Alias then clicking cancel displays ERROR: TypeError: Cannot read property 'name' of null
low iris
When you upload emote, the heads up thingy still appears despite clicking dont show again
pearl grove
auto emote resizing is weird, i uploaded this (400x300)
and it resized to 238x128 instead of 171x128
narrow matrix
auto emote resizing is weird, i uploaded this (400x300)
did you upload a webp to discord or is my internet that bad?
still mason
Is it only for me MMB-clicking isn't working for emotes' pages?
"cd29ea9 Middle-click support (#59) - AnatoleAM"
idle vapor
its not for middle clicking to a different page
its for opening the emotes in a new tab
still mason
its for opening the emotes in a new tab
hmm, could u please specify what is the "new tab" stands for?!
I mean in BTTV (for example) U could open the emote page in new browser-tab by mmb-clicking it in the library.
idle vapor
1920x1080 monitor?
still mason
yep
narrow matrix
i have it on a 1920x1080 monitor 
still mason
wait-wait, I'm dumb - it's in the All Emotes Menu, not in Ur own channel emotes page
narrow matrix
:Pepege:
still mason
ok, Q is still actual, mmb is working there, but isn't working on your profile page
not for enabled emotes nor created by yourself
still mason
@humble pelican thx, works now 
narrow matrix
:peepoClap: :Clap:
dim siren
clicking show more and clicking on a emote on a profile page loads the homepage, the site wasn't doing it yesterday and it happens in a different browser. i was looking at this profile when i noticed https://7tv.app/users/60867b015e01df61570ab900
slate locust
notification badge still shows even even notis were cleared
narrow matrix
its kinda glitchy
also i wanted it to dissapear after i check without pressing the ''mark all read'' button so that i could see my notis later
still mason
+notifications aren't displayed in Editor Mode, U should left it -> check -> reenter
oak ore
clicking show more and clicking on a emote on a profile page loads the homepage,...
yeah just had the same bug
humble pelican
i'll deploy a fix in a minute
chilly fjord
so the release notes from a few days ago said live updating is back? is there something we have to do to reactivate it? 🤔
humble pelican
it was partially disabled yesterday due to a massive influx in traffic
prob safe to re enable now
chilly fjord
oic
once it is back do we need to refresh our twitch windows 1 more time? or once u enable it again it will just work for us straight away? 🤔
humble pelican
you might need to restart your browser
oak ore
i actually have 201 emotes lmao i count every emote i have
was moved from global 7tv emotes to your channel emotes, so you get a free slot
copper crystal
but if i want to delete 1 emote to replace by another, i will have to remove 2 emotes right?
oak ore
yeah
copper crystal
cmon i just need like +5 slots 
to get pixel perfect emote list
help cant expand my uploaded emote list
oak ore
that bug is back 
copper crystal
oak ore
try refreshing your browser, i was having that same issue earlier but Anatole put out a fix
just checked and it's no longer happening
oh i didnt check Opera, everything seems good on Chrome
copper crystal
PERA
copper crystal
try refreshing your browser, i was having that same issue earlier but Anatole pu...
its not working
oak ore
could be broken on just opera, have you tried another browser?
weary trout
if i press "View More" on any channel's submissions it automatically re-directs to 7tv.app (homepage)
it happens on my own page and any other page
https://7tv.app/users/6053853cb4d31e459fdaa2dc laden's page for example
elfin gust
dont force me to open Edge <:monkaW:795399876111499275>
it's microsoft chrome, not edge
welcome to the future where everything is chrome
dire ice
Only a minor bug, not sure if this is known if you are in editor mode and add an emote to the channel the button doesn't change until the whole page is refreshed
still mason
It is a known bug.
dire ice
Ah okay cool just wanted to make sure 
still mason
marble isle
0/NaN in the link preview 
https://7tv.app/emotes/60f84a2de57bec021667b20d
humble pelican
FeelsJSMan
marble isle
surreal stratus
hellooo this is a bug w/ the 7tv chatterino that i dont actually have but two of my friends do:
they don't see ffz and bttv globals:
deep sinew
Let's get this damn nam spam
native thunder
Yeah I was using 7tv for the first time today, got the twitch overlay thing setup that's linked on the site but the emotes weren't showing up?
Does it need to refresh for new emotes unlike regular twitch chat?
humble pelican
this is something you'd need to ask the dev but i assume you need to refresh yes. i don't believe it implements our websocket
nocturne crater
is the WebSocket API down right now? or just client scuff
humble pelican
it's up
could be client scuff, i think theres an issue where it if the connection gets dropped by the server at one point the client doesnt resubscribe until refresh
nocturne crater
mhm yeah I do have multiple streams up so it's for sure on my end
thanks for the quick reply 
brisk apex
Every time I enable the add-on in ffz I get "connecting to chat" error and the chat doesn't load, any suggestions how to fix it?
heavy trellis
I attempted to upload an animated wide emote but the site squeezed it down to 128x128. The size is 306x128 but like I said the site made it 128x128? Any idea what I did wrong?
narrow matrix
could you send a link to the emote and the original file?
narrow matrix
is it WEBP or GIF?
heavy trellis
webp
narrow matrix
oh
i've seen 7tv has some problems with uploading webp directly
let me try to upload the emote to see if it squeezes up again
heavy trellis
kk
narrow matrix
whats the name of the emote?
heavy trellis
BOOBEST
heavy trellis
different
narrow matrix
oh its different
heavy trellis
sucks discord previews dont work for webp
heavy trellis
yup
narrow matrix
DinkDonk
heavy trellis
same exact happened to me so I deleted it thinking I did something wrong
narrow matrix
that bug also happened to me while i was doing tests on stage
most emotes are uploaded as gifs so thats why it wasnt fixed probably
@humble pelican DinkDonk second ping
@heavy trellis whats the original resolution
384x128?
heavy trellis
heavy trellis
Yeah but when you check the original size of some other emotes they are also 306 128. The normal BOOBEST is that size too but like you said before it was probably uploaded as a gif then the site converted it to webp
still mason
have u tried to upload as GIF?
heavy trellis
No I can try
heavy trellis
When a gif?
still mason
heavy trellis
Yeah mine just went through. Uploaded it as a gif and it didn't shrink
So it just happens when uploading a wide webp
narrow matrix
not only wide
heavy trellis
Oh really? Interesting
narrow matrix
i uploaded a forsenPls and it also got squeezed
heavy trellis
Oof ok
deep sinew
forsen, please!!! 💦
eternal crane
*When viewing an emote as editor there's no "remove emote" from channel button Seems to be there when reloading the page a few times
covert mist
7TV emote's aren't showing up for me :/ Imgur Album of my settings/problem: https://imgur.com/a/gttogXU another screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/rvntIZS.png (I have the 7TV Chrome Extension Enabled, oh and on Chatterino I can see these emotes)
covert mist
ok found the issue, seems like Privacy Badger was blocking 7TV's servers. 
nice troll privacy badger
humble pelican
sounds like some scuffed machine learning algorithm thing, maybe theres a way to report a false positive to them if you wanna bother
pearl grove
@humble pelican animated webp with fps over 30 (converted with ffmpeg) get slowed down after being uploaded, 60fps example:
before 7tv: https://ipfs.io/ipfs/Qmd4qErDXwua8Xqmb7KWnXGfDHrKjPn6NqjLLijuGLVfUT?filename=flashbang.webp
after 7tv: https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/60fb4732712cfecff93d9ea2/4x
pearl grove
i might be able to help out with ffmpeg conversion i use it a ton
assuming thats whats being used under the hood for conversion on 7tv
rugged sable
They tried it oh no no no
covert mist
sounds like some scuffed machine learning algorithm thing, maybe theres a way to...
you can, and i did 
👍
humble pelican
whats it using then out of curiosity <:Hmm:824050467867983874>
imagemagick, it's omegaslow but from all the options tried gave the best results in quality
for some reason google's own utilities dont do great with small images (<64px)
real zealot
in the "Emotes by..." section, the emote goes by the alias the uploader set for themselves instead of the actual uploaded emote name
for example:
the alias i set for that emote is KEKW but the actual uploaded name is SOLW
pearl grove
i dont think thats a bug but it might be possible to make it show "<alias> (<og name>)"
pearl grove
ffmpeg sucks with webp
what issues did you run into with ffmpeg btw? the ffmpeg result actually looks sharper than IM in my testing (the filesizes are inflated due to lossless conversion for testing purposes)
ImageMagick: https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmdGLKVeZhv6NGJKWgyYrjNvYK2fj762z3F72xbpd1Hnp2?filename=elinaShrek-ImageMagick.webp
ffmpeg: https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmPVx4reXBrw2Pzh6veLJM9H31YVDwZQG1weeVFsGkNyWg?filename=elinaShrek-ffmpeg.webp
only asking because the fps limit in ImageMagick doesnt seem to have any workaround
deep sinew
Clearly the best solution is to fix ffmpeg and submit a PR
humble pelican
from past testing it looks fine at 128px and up
but for the 1x size it'd look very bad
pearl grove
28x:
ffmpeg: https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmfCN2WDRz4h3zdnFokrckCseiGJ3t7LLTHV7HyUzAETxF?filename=elinaShrek28xffm.webp
ImageMagick: https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmYeEem28fYKDfXUnssCGyPnLddE4EjLGCeTcm7t3u2wvL?filename=elinaShrek28xIM.webp
ffmpeg still looks good imo
pearl grove
ffmpeg -i elinaShrek.gif -vcodec libwebp_anim -lossless 1 -loop 0 -an -vsync 0 -vf scale=-1:28 elinaShrek28x.webp
the -lossless 1 should be able to be substituted with lossy encoding parameters with little issue
humble pelican
i'll check it out
pearl grove
the -an and -vsync 0 are also probably redundant since i was using it with a video input before
deep sinew
@pearl grove It should also work with just "-vcodec libwebp" too, right?
pearl grove
no, libwebp has frame stacking while libwebp_anim doesnt
deep sinew
ah ok
pearl grove
that was the first issue i ran into though
humble pelican
is ffmpeg binary larger or smaller than IM
cant remember
might be smaller if you minimize it to only the needed formats
deep sinew
My version of ffmpeg is 278 kib
pearl grove
the standalone binary for linux is 73.3 MB but could probably be minimized in compilation yeah
my windows exe for the git nightly is 347 KB but thats not taking into account the avcodec/avformat libs
deep sinew
well he didn't specify the size of the libraries 4Headiguess
wise violet
also
pearl grove
wise violet
if ffmpeg uses libwebp under the hood
there shouldn't really be a difference between that and google's tools
since those also use libwebp
other than options used
pearl grove
i guess yeah but ffmpeg probably has more refined options
humble pelican
well, it's the way google's tools use libwebp that make it bad
wise violet
just make a go wrapper for libwebp @humble pelican
humble pelican
lol just
deep sinew
why use someone else's software when you can just write your own?
pearl grove
wise violet
@humble pelican
humble pelican
last commit 4 years ago
pearl grove
keep in mind the libwebp codec had frame stacking and libwebp_anim doesnt, not sure what the differences are internally
humble pelican
i tried them there's no good bindings for webp encoding in golang
pearl grove
after a bit of further testing these are the options that tend to give the best balance of quality/speed/compression in ffmpeg
ffmpeg -i input.ext -vcodec libwebp_anim -loop 0 -vf scale=384:128:force_original_aspect_ratio=decrease -lossless 0 -compression_level 5 -q:v 80 output.webp
lossless:
ffmpeg -i input.ext -vcodec libwebp_anim -loop 0 -vf scale=384:128:force_original_aspect_ratio=decrease -lossless 1 -compression_level 4 -q:v 0 output.webp```in theory this could also work for video uploads by attaching -an -vsync 0 before output.webp
chilly flare
I get this on upload of emote
humble pelican
request time out, the emote will still be created
chilly flare
gotcha thank you
deep sinew
wait how
Yeah that's just the executable. The libraries are separate and are larger.
I could be wrong, but I think these are all the libraries it needs
not too big
er, I should say those are the libraries it installs
it has a lot of other dependencies
On my Arch installation, ffmpeg and dependencies total 33.96 MiB
but still a stripped down version of ffmpeg would be smaller
deep sinew
also, the size of my biggest package is unreal
wise violet
late river
having problems where when i press add to channel on an emote it wont work
only happens when im impersonating a channel
humble pelican
it does work but it's a separate bug which causes the button to not update properly
late river
how would i bypass it?
humble pelican
it's a cosmetic issue, the emote was added to the channel
wise violet
refresh
late river
ohhh nvm it added thank you
wise violet
also anatole, I was just thinking
the regex escapement should probably be fixed before personal emotes come around
that could be bad
breaking peoples extensions with a personal emote 
nocturne crater
503 error
it loaded eventually kept refreshing
I went to approve an emote, clicked approve, nothing happened, I clicked it again, nothing happened, refreshed, signed out, presses sign in, 503 error. Waited a bit, refreshed, now it's working
wise violet
Yeah, I've been getting 503s on various requests all morning
dim siren
isn't really a bug, but the 1.0.2 version of the 7tv addon for ffz hasn't been approved/merged. i only noticed because live updates stop working randomly in 1.0.1 and i get thousands of errors
wise violet
isn't really a bug, but the 1.0.2 version of the 7tv addon for ffz hasn't been a...
Could you give screenshots of these errors?
and are you still having issues with live emote updates?
the websocket service has had to be taken down a few times in the past weeks
it should be fully operational at the moment
in addition to that, there was some service instability earlier this morning, which could have been the cause of the said errors
if they were recent
dim siren
its working right now, last time was around ~12hrs if it happens again ill screenshot. but from memory it was a failed promise error on v2/ws
real zealot
websocket thinks that an emote is added when an alias was added
(they added an alias to bonkCat then added bonkCat) and the same for PepegaChat
nocturne crater
yeah I've noticed that with aliasing too.
wintry field
not a bug related, i was just wondering how you guys achieved this , something that is always updating on the website. i know discord has some guild api banners that update but are not as accurate as this one.
wise violet
@humble pelican 
humble pelican
what env? @wise violet
wise violet
what env? <@!727399831177265232>
it was the 1px tall
the same thing happened on 2px and 3px but 5px worked
and this is exactly what I wanted
the preview image
wise violet
now its even more fucked up when I added it to my channel
humble pelican
also yeah the 1px error i assume because the lower sizes must be getting a negative number
wise violet
marble isle
not a bug related, i was just wondering how you guys achieved this , something t...
using the json api
still mason
complex dimensions emotes incoming
humble pelican
not a bug related, i was just wondering how you guys achieved this , something t...
it takes data from this https://canary.discord.com/api/guilds/817075418054000661/widget.json
still mason
do not open this 
wintry field
do not open this <a:MonkaExtreme:707268497478123590>
Open it if you are a website dev 
still mason
idk how to use that
wintry field
its actually useful as i never knew about this canary discord
now i just need to figure out how to use it
still mason
why nobody can just make finished working widget, where u can just input server name and Voilà!
wintry field
Might be that this version of discord has some exclusive working guilds
and thats what it seems like
"Canary is Discord's alpha testing program. ... The Canary Build's purpose is to allow users to help Discord test new features. Bugs on the Canary build are supposed to be reported on the Discord Testers server. Unlike PTB or Stable, Canary's icon is orange instead of blurple."
Well i have a website using some guilds
if you have a website this should be helpfull to you
still mason
It seems like there are some users' ids in the code, but why the number is close to 100
when it's about 700 online
wise violet
because those are the users that would show in the discord widget
as to how they choose the ones to show on the widget idk
humble pelican
if u want more data you'll have to use a bot and make your own endpoint
still mason
as to how they choose the ones to show on the widget idk
so it randomly chooses 100 online members?
still mason
oh, k
wintry field
<div class="module_avisos" style="
text-align: center;
width: 100%;
float: left;
margin-bottom: 25px;
"><a href="https://discord.com/invite/jGEPZcbQ2W%22%3E<img src="https://discord.com/api/guilds/688221528340562118/widget.png?style=banner2
" width="278" height="66" style="
width: inherit;
"></a></p></center></a>
<span class="fora" style=""><span class="dentro" style=""><a href="/em-alta" class="see-all">Em Alta</a> <select id="selectbox" name="" onchange="javascript:location.href = this.value;">
<option value="" selected="">Selecione o Modo</option>
<option value="https://animeszone.net/epex00/%22%3ELançamentos do Ano</option></select> </span></span>
</div>```i used this on my website
but i cant really phantom on how to use the other one
you can see the guilds one in there
wise violet
still mason
anyway couldn't find the line with the online members counter in original Tole's link
wintry field
but these are some preset images from discord themselfs https://discord.com/api/guilds/688221528340562118/widget.png?style=banner2
wintry field
as you wish
humble pelican
@wintry field u need to make a GET request with javascript then extract the data and use that to construct your own widget
wise violet
anyway couldn't find the line with the online members counter in original Tole's...
its at the very bottom
humble pelican
learn how web works before building a website maybe
wise violet
still mason
its at the very bottom
yep, thx
wise violet
anatole, stomping out compitition, like a rutheless buisnessman
before they even rise to power
still mason
its at the very bottom
it doesn't even contain "online", but contains "idle"
still mason
no need to hurt me that hard
pretty sure, Ur website is fine
deep sinew
I'd'll
still mason
wintry field
<:CH_CatSadThumb:812236608128024616>
Im not competition , was just looking for knowledge sir 
wintry field
<:CH_CatSadThumb:812236608128024616>
marble isle
<a:NE_sad:731219239460929619>
what server is that from?
marble isle
thanks
marble isle
NitroEmojis 2
this one?
marble isle
do you have an invite link? I can't find it
still mason
marble isle
thanks 
deep sinew
Yeah but where's the 3rd party emote service for discord?
Imagine paying to use emotes
:tf:
still mason
Toleeee, make special 8tv for discord 
marble isle
Imagine paying to use emotes
someone gifted it to me 
still mason
Luckily GlobalTwitchEmotes works
mentioned it several days ago when we discussed availability of emotes on YouTube
we agreed GTE is 💩
deep sinew
Yeah I was there
4Head
What the internet needs is a better version of GTE
Something more like a 7tv extension
BTTV and FFZ emotes only work because people actually have the extensions installed
pine parcel
accessing every site and changing texts/images 
but yea i do think that would be cool
deep sinew
Imagine if Discord servers could enable emotes the same way twitch extensions do
Or just an extension that takes the nitro-only emotes that show up when you type :emotes: and uploads them like regular PNGs and GIFs
no one would need to pay for nitro
this idea sounds highly illegal
humble pelican
good way to get discord banned
humble pelican
which is against discord's TOS
deep sinew
Yeah like BetterDiscord
but this would just be a chrome extension
Because imagine using the standalone version
I have GlobalTwitchEmotes enabled now so I can forsenBased all day
That's not against TOS, I'm sure
but copying the emote and uploading it as a PNG
is that against TOS?
I don't think so either
basically the extension would just do both of those automatically
👍🏼
deep sinew
oh yeah this is #bugs-and-stuff
definitely not a bug
but like we established earlier, GlobalTwitchEmotes is 💩
west tundra
Is there an issue with adding people as editors that haven't been to the 7tv website before? I am able to add people who have been into the website before but for some reason I have getting unknown error return when adding someone who hasnt been on the site before
Does the person have to sync up to 7tv before you can add them as an editor
wise violet
Is there an issue with adding people as editors that haven't been to the 7tv web...
thats to be expected
yeah
they have to sign in first
west tundra
Is that the same with bttv, ffz? I never really noticed before since they're the most widely used 3rd party applications for emotes
west tundra
Any reason why that's a thing
wise violet
idk
@humble pelican would it be possible to create the user when adding them as an editor or transfering an emote
rugged sable
Well I mean if you never go to the website whats the point of being an editor the whole point of editor is to add emote
humble pelican
it's most likely a thing for bttv and ffz too, it's users that aren't registered in the DB
wise violet
or do you not want to do that, to minimize account spamge
humble pelican
but more people have bttv/ffz accounts soyou likely encounter that issue less
west tundra
that is what I thought
humble pelican
<@!61076301552820224> <:FeelsDankMan:854950776358305803> would it be possible to...
not sure the point of doing that, if someone isn't on 7tv then why would they be someone's 7tv editor
wise violet
moreso for transfering emotes
but if you could do it there then why not for editor too
gentle crag
It says that I have 199/200 emotes enabled but I can't add another one 
and my pfp isn't showing up, probably because I changed it recently 
deep sinew
Your profile picture counts as an emote, didn't you know that? :tf:
wise violet
and my pfp isn't showing up, probably because I changed it recently <a:dankSpin:...
I believe you have to log out and sign in again to fix your pfp if you changed it
gentle crag
worked, thanks
wise violet
opaque kraken
Is there something else you need to do to activate 7tv on your stream? I have a chat on stream but the emotes show up as letters 
i have the extension and im using streamlabs
it works in the normal chat though
coarse ember
dunno if the streamlabs chat thing has it
wise violet
it doesn't
for onscreen chat
you can use jChat in #7tv-tools for your on screen chat
opaque kraken
ooo thought that might be it :d thank you!
fallow rivet
How i can fix this? Its just start giving me this screen sometimes when i open site
rugged sable
Bttv down now 7TV
still mason
deep sinew
xqc goes down, 7tv goes down with him. We're in this together
narrow matrix
also bttv but they were too early
dim siren
Could you give screenshots of these errors?
service is down again so its hammering the same endpoint again, i want to say every 5s
humble pelican
the issue right now is the addon has no back off
if you'd like these errors gone you can install the 7TV extension thru chrome web store, which will hook the websocket into the background instead out of sight
deep sinew
Uploading a webp I made myself (with ffmpeg) looks fine, but the framerate is wrong.
this is the original file, but I also tried it with a 128x128 version
still mason
why did U upload that on stage. ? 
deep sinew
because IT DOESN'T WORK RIGHT YET
still mason
I mean why didn't u doubled it on the main site?
deep sinew
I did try it there first, actually
but it's not up to my quality standards so I deleted it
humble pelican
I believe it might actually be a limitation of imagemagick
it just can't re-encode webp properly
i'm gonna look into adding a selector where you can pick ffmpeg as the renderer, which may help with higher framerates- but may also cause more artifacts in some cases
still mason
as for me, it's still the best way to add png/gif like in old good days
deep sinew
Yeah I could easily make it a GIF first, but I'm ready to move on from the 80s, personally
humble pelican
Yeah no i want to fully support direct webp uploads
And encourage it when it's working properly
deep sinew
Honestly, 7tv might be the push that the world needs to finally ditch GIF
new webp tools will be made
still mason
Honestly, 7tv might be the push that the world needs to finally ditch GIF
it doesn't work this way
deep sinew
Twitch emotes are THE MOST important part of our global society though
anyone who disagrees is big dummy
humble pelican
i meaaan, youtube and most of google's services use webp, let's not get too far ahead 
still mason
anyone who disagrees is big dummy
humble pelican
but yea more imaging software supporting it could be nice tho. right now only some of the top ones like photoshop allow webp export afaik
humble pelican
ive been wondering what an emote that utilize the full color space of webp would look like
like a rainbow rave emote but with a hundred thousand colors or smth
but it might be way too big in file size
deep sinew
At emote size, you can't really see the tiny differences between colors anymore
that's one of the reasons why GIF has been fine for all these years
Honestly it looks like imagemagick is just using a default framerate and ignoring my beautiful 60 fps
humble pelican
is it doing that on a gif upload or only webp?
deep sinew
nah all the gif emotes are using proper framerates
so it's reading the frame times from gifs properly
humble pelican
coarse ember
lets use the best format the midi
deep sinew
midi is a great format
it just gets a bad rep from people doing the stupid audio to midi conversions
coarse ember
im aware
deep sinew
Zoomers don't even know what a real midi file should sound like
coarse ember
ttfatf midi
deep sinew
still mason
btw, "Notifications" bell is crushed for me
showing 36 Notifications even it's clear there
deep sinew
don't smash it
narrow matrix
this sounds great
still mason
narrow matrix
36 WAYTOODANK
still mason
@humble pelican 🤜 
humble pelican
it should disappear within like a minute
humble pelican
uhm
still mason
to be more precise, there were about 80+ notifications and after I cleared 'em all counter was dropped to 36
humble pelican
dank
wise violet
eternal was solely responsible for that weeks worth of data
humble pelican
i think i know why, when you requested to mark all your notifications as read the client actually only sends the IDs it sees
but when you reopen the dialog no further notifications pop up?
iirc the server only sends 50 notfiications at once
rugged sable
Someone just sent this to me does the bttv extension disable ffz and 7tv? https://i.imgur.com/sqLojpJ.png
rugged sable
oh ok
still mason
bttv has and it's so usefull 
I didn't create anything like that and named anything like that.
deep sinew
Is there some sort of automatic emote similarity check?
still mason
The more interesting fact it was 1st notification I received while impersonating as an editor.
humble pelican
I didn't create anything like that and named anything like that.
read again, it's an emote you had enabled, not one you created
deep sinew
Is there some sort of automatic emote similarity check?
Or do all emotes have to be manually compared by a human?
still mason
2nd
and even if it would be some automatic staff there, it wouldn't be stated as "by isabellaawesome"
deep sinew
But it's easy to see how eventually comparing emotes manually will become impractical if not infeasible.
No single person can remember exactly what every emote looks like
still mason
dude, they just merge exactly the same emotes (not dif variations of emotes) in 1 emote which was created 1st or is belong to the original creator
no need to outsmart correct things
deep sinew
Well are they comparing hashes of the images uploaded?
That would be easy
but not all emotes are unaltered
still mason
"exactly the same emotes"
deep sinew
change 1 pixel by 0x000001
deep sinew
no wAAAAYY
it's a shame file formats are so tough to get adopted
webp uses vp8 which is ancient at this point
deep sinew
inb4 BTTV or FFZ implements WebP2
narrow matrix
i guess
deep sinew
leapfrog game
Just put support for it in Chrome and Firefox. Everything else can implement it or suffer.
I'm tired of waiting for years to get better file formats
deep sinew
I managed to buy a 30 series RTX card from Linus so I now have hardware AV1 decode support
But I can't use it because nothing supports it
narrow matrix
i dont know
hope i helped
apparently no
also anatole remove it from vadikus chat already its a global
rugged sable
You can add an emote with the same name as it and it will override it
still mason
I wanted to remove AYAYA
dude, U are not alone, one day...
humble pelican
this is fake
still mason
this is fake
still mason
this is fake
humble pelican
lies and slander mods ban this guy
marble isle
lies and slander mods ban this guy
wise violet
actually real message
yo this discord is a mess @humble pelican
conversations in every channel 
just make it one channel
humble pelican
kathy manages this place not me
wise violet
sure
pass the blame 
also
do the dungeon mistresses play "dnd" with you 🤔 @humble pelican
still mason
btw, after the last updates the service messages about adding/removing emotes are no longer appearing with appropriate actions and the channel page should be refreshed to new emotes show up @humble pelican
humble pelican
yea it's down for now because it puts too much stress on the servers
needs optimization and isolation from the rest of the api
still mason
planing to return it later?
wise violet
connection every 5 seconds from every user
might as well actually leave a dummy websocket up
humble pelican
it's mainly melon's fault for not putting backoff in his addon
I'm stupid
humble pelican
it literally breaks the servers
wise violet
I thought the error event would be emitted when it couldnt connect
which would make it never try to reconnect
not the close event
humble pelican
it's like a DDOS anytime the websocket disconnects, every user reconnects at once
we get like 20K requests per second
rugged sable
Cant you just update the addon with a PR? @wise violet
wise violet
I'm not even sure what the error event is even for
humble pelican
and the service goes down
wise violet
if not for failing to connect
humble pelican
the other problem is that every tab = 1 connection
wise violet
it only tries to reconnect on close, which apparently also is triggered when not connecting at all
humble pelican
when it should be one browser = one connection
still mason
if U are planning to return the mentioned option, it's actually not so important to add those "service messages" but the feature with auto-adding emotes without refresh was cool
humble pelican
i mean
the messages are a symptom of the feature
theyre just there to inform you, the feature itself relies on the websocket api
still mason
ok, just for the future possible improvement
flint temple
https://7tv.app/emotes/60aebc28d970a5b9cf844d66
NEW GLOBAL EMOTE
still mason
they won't do that 
narrow matrix
https://7tv.app/emotes/61049bdc99197254381e2f92 idk why but the emote creates some glitchy borders when its still
thick widget
Whenever I mouse over any emotes on my channel emotes everything becomes very laggy:
humble pelican
it's what you can call an "Angular moment"
spring quarry
i tried to download a gif emote and it never would be downloaded as a gif but when i did the same thing on bttv it worked 
deep sinew
Inb4 he just doesn’t realize 7tv uses webp
livid matrix
Tab complete is a bit broken
still mason
Inb4 he just doesn’t realize 7tv uses webp
doesn't matter actually, gif should works fine
narrow matrix
doesn't matter actually, gif should works fine
But he wants to download it, you cant directly download webp as gif
still mason
But he wants to download it, you cant directly download webp as gif
oh, he meant that way
I though he meant download on the web-site
deep sinew
What website?
still mason
he can use converter then - any online free one
rugged sable
i tried to download a gif emote and it never would be downloaded as a gif but wh...
when downloading emotes from 7tv they are webp you'll need to convert it from webp to gif format there are plenty of online converters
real zealot
webp deniers 
summer girder
this pop up, still shows every time i load the page, even tho i click don't show again
idle vapor
7tvs history of cosmetic buttons 
deep sinew
Yeah same for me
I just assumed it was because of the unorthodox things I do with browser cookies
namely eating them
wise violet
that toggle isn't actually connected to anything
still mason
this pop up, still shows every time i load the page, even tho i click *don't sho...
known problem, I reported it more then 2 weeks ago (even created GitHub bug report)
tidal bramble
????
wise violet
is that while uploading an emote?
tidal bramble
yes
wise violet
just wait a while
it should appear after a bit
its processing
@humble pelican 
fix it, oh god its all broken, oh fuck dear god why 
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
chilly fjord
Any idea when auto-updating will be back online? 🤔
humble pelican
what do you mean by auto updating
oh the emotes
whenever new version of the web extension release
the current endpoint was basically causing a DDoS anytime the websocket restarted so we had to take it down
real zealot
files store more data than what appears in file explorer. check the file properties and there will be a size larger than 2.5kb (something like "Size on Disk")
chilly fjord
@humble pelican oh ok. I just thought it's been down for days seemingly so was wondering when it was back. I like adding and removing emotes on the fly 😅
humble pelican
it's essentially coming back up in a few days with the 1.6.0 release of the web extension
chilly fjord
nice 👍
spiral needle
craggy iron
ah shit here we go again 
firefox 
FFZ:AP used to have the same thing
I think its still scuffed but it should work now
real zealot
happens with every 7tv badge on firefox rn i think yeah
wise violet
works fine for me
dusty epoch
yeah just downloaded the normal chatterino and its a chatterino problem not a 7tv fork
rugged sable
https://github.com/Chatterino/chatterino2/issues/3107 follow this guide
narrow matrix
wont connect <:FeelsGoodMan:861205688655151115>
that 2 mensages perfectly represent chatterino rn
wintry gull
this emote just doenst show up on search
theres no recent activity on it or anything
looks like its the same with a bunch of my older submitted emotes
https://7tv.app/emotes/60b251fbf659090a74d45af6 also doesnt work
basically anything uploaded pretty much on month 1 or something that was visible is just no longer visible
idle vapor
i can see them both
still mason
he didn't say they can't be seen
they really don't show up via search and there is no activity on them
idle vapor
i saw them when i searched for them though
still mason
even upload activity isn't tracked
still mason
https://7tv.app/emotes/60b24e540fc2b1dc129bc3b2
can u switch privacy status on one of 'em "private/public" button
wise violet
The missing activity is either the result of one of the DB migrations
or the emotes in question were created before the activity logs were added
still mason
@wintry gull and are U really sure there wasn't notification about it was merged with another emote
cause there is the same emote on 7tv
idle vapor
i cant see PogU when i have it in fullscreen but can when only on half a monitor 
can see PogYou just fine though
wintry gull
<@!99929867583234048> PogYou could be seen in search
alright thats good
still mason
PogU was probably merged in the early added emote
wintry gull
<@!99929867583234048> and are U really sure there wasn't notification about it w...
but why would it be merged to an emote posted after mine 
i added mine like 2 months before
wintry gull
i am the original author
still mason
could u pls share a link on ffz/bttv?
wintry gull
idle vapor
idk whats up with the page sizing affecting it but i do see it just fine
wintry gull
yeah i actually know the person who uploaded that one and they said they uploaded it because they couldnt find mine
wise violet
oh I do see it actually
but yeah only if I set to a non standard width
@humble pelican
I see why, its just strange
still mason
🤜 @humble pelican
wise violet
its like its being omitted from the first page
wintry gull
interesting
still mason
the best and fastest way is to delete and re-upload
wintry gull
but the two users 
wise violet
it would be the next emote on the standard width, this could actually be a problem across all paginated emote lists on the site
still mason
mods will be informed U are an original author
idle vapor
just change the browser width 
still mason
and will merge
wintry gull
is there a way to do that without booting the emote off of the 2 users who are using it rn
still mason
is there a way to do that without booting the emote off of the 2 users who are u...
then U should wait till Tole will take it into work
wise violet
You shouldn't delete it
idle vapor
if benjis is merged into yours or visa versa everyone who was using both will have the one left over on their channel
wise violet
ask a moderator to merge the other one into yours
that'll push it up a few in the search results
wintry gull
how would i go about asking someone
idle vapor
ping the mods
wise violet
@nocturne crater
still mason
@lofty isle 
need your help
lofty isle
how can I help 
wintry gull
hello my emote is a bit fucked 
wintry gull
mine is the bottom one and i am original creator btw
still mason
AyeEssBee is the original author
lofty isle
np
wintry gull
or just write it down
still mason
actually the quality of Benji's one is better
idle vapor
just scroll up
still mason
maybe merging in his one and transfer ownership
wise violet
how are you supposed to debug a screenshot
still mason
to AyeEssBee
wintry gull
no clue how he got it to be higher quality than mine 
lofty isle
did the conversion do that I wonder? the images look exactly the same
wise violet
his was uploaded after a compression change
there have been a few improvements to the way 7tv compresses images
wintry gull
ah
still mason
did the conversion do that I wonder? the images look exactly the same
eternal_pestilence — Today at 2:05 AM
actually the quality of Benji's one is better
maybe merge in his one and transfer then to Aye
lofty isle
yeah I'll merge and transfer
wintry gull
thank you i appreciate it 
wintry gull
thank you!
pearl grove
@humble pelican image "magick" 
input image: (webp will never load 
open original)
output image: https://7tv.app/emotes/6109ee5b831545f5269688dc
deep sinew
output image: https://7tv.app/emotes/6109ee5b831545f5269688dc
this is a new form of comedy
pearl grove
tallgigachad 
in other news, one of my extensions is making this happen now arbitrarily
pearl grove
also i tried uploading a HD GIGACHAD, but along with webp compression ruining the quality during upload (see above), one of the 
deleted it for duplicate emote even though it didnt have the gif grain.
Anyways since that happened and I noticed 
is particularly sensitive to webp compression methods, I tested the different quality/compression settings against each other (using FFmpeg) and uploaded the outputs and commands used here: https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmcZimCzZkFnKMyWyfda14yLtGDEXGFZDHCHMZg9D889rG
@humble pelican hopefully this can help with figuring out the most balanced settings if/when 7tv switches to using FFmpeg 
Q80 looks like it did the best job at compressing without destroying the quality imo
anything below 50 though is uh
humble pelican
@pearl grove ffmpeg can't decodd animated webp
so I ruled it out as an option, and the quality is still horrible
Basically, ffmpeg can't produce acceptable lossy webp. Only lossless looks ok, which is useless
deep sinew
I wouldn’t say lossless webp is useless. It’s still better than gif.
And animated png
Except for browser support lawl
humble pelican
Lossless has the advantage of having the extra features and optimozations of webp over gif, but the file size is virtually unchanged
Which isn't ideal
deep sinew
Except it has a few million more colors
gif with 256 colors per frame
deep sinew
Are you testing file size difference with gifs as the source?
humble pelican
Sure but that's not good enough when we provide up to thousands of emotes. The images must be smaller
The only option at this point I think is decoding all frames individually and using webpmux
deep sinew
It kinda makes sense that vp8 doesn’t perform well with small resolutions since it’s not designed for that
pearl grove
which one of these is ffmpeg vs imagemagick then
deep sinew
I know you weren’t asking me, but I can’t tell
deep sinew
Idk im on a phone
Same but there’s this thing called zooming in ;)
humble pelican
And there's a feature request to add anim webp decoding that's been pending for years
So it doesn't seem like support is great either
But IM pretty much can't decode webp either
wise violet
ffmpeg can't decode webp?
I use it to split frames and convert webp to gif all the time
unless you mean something else
pearl grove
the one on the left is ffmpeg with 70% quality @ 246 KB and the one on the right with whatever settings 7tv is using for imagemagick @ 257 KB
the difference is very negligible
wise violet
Realistically, they should be the same
humble pelican
Idk what settings u used then. I didn't get those results
wise violet
they both use libwebp
humble pelican
But try it on a drawn emote, like borpaSpin
deep sinew
the difference is very negligible
Even the compression artifacts look identical to me, which I wouldn’t expect. (Unless they were in the original)
pearl grove
Idk what settings u used then. I didn't get those results
which is why i put the commands i used in the link i sent ;) https://ipfs.io/ipfs/bafybeigtltadcz7hkw3vjbj3huriejw5lef4rw37wyhmm6gny36tblgv2e/commands.txt
humble pelican
In my testing ffmpeg created awful artifacting
deep sinew
Test it agane already
humble pelican
which is why i put the commands i used in the link i sent ;) https://ipfs.io/ipf...
Site doesn't load
Ill check on PC later
pearl grove
yeah sorry wrong link i fixed it
humble pelican
Yea I wss using the same pretty much
humble pelican
It was complete garbage on some type of emotes
Like gigachad is already a mess of pixels but I dare you try it on something drawn
pearl grove
idk maybe its because i'm using the git version as opposed to the latest release build?
humble pelican
Maybe
pearl grove
im using the ffmpeg-N-###-###-win64-gpl-shared.zip from here, the linux build should be about the same https://github.com/BtbN/FFmpeg-Builds/releases
humble pelican
Ill try it but again pls try on a drawn emote
pearl grove
like WAYTOOMODS or what kind of "drawn" 
humble pelican
My tests were using borpaSpin
wise violet
uh
pearl grove
do ffmpeg -version
wise violet
ffmpeg version n4.4 Copyright (c) 2000-2021 the FFmpeg developers
built with gcc 11.1.0 (GCC)
Build Date: 2021-06-10 06:49 UTC
pearl grove
yeah idk even with -q:v 60 it looks fine to me
idk i think gigachad is probably the best quality test it seems
feel free to do your own testing though
humble pelican
that does look fine
idk what was wrong with my command then
but how do you rescale with ffmpeg
i calculate height/width programatically before feeding it to the encoder
pearl grove
thats also included in the commands.txt
-vf scale=384:128:force_original_aspect_ratio=decrease
just replace the 384:128 with the other sizes
the only thing i would change in the commands.txt is -compression_level 6 since 6 is the maximum compression level which is really slow
id go 5 or 4
humble pelican
im using 4
pearl grove
but its not like speed matters too much coming from imagemagick 
wise violet
yeah it was literally instant when I tried it with 
pearl grove
i used 6 in my tests so that could be the difference, but i doubt it since if anything increasing the compression level should decrease the quality
humble pelican
compression level is the cpu time spent on compression, higher should mean overall better result at the cost of processing power
4 is usually best for automated stuff
deep sinew
I'm not sure what the difference is between -qscale and -compression_level
humble pelican
also this is my ffmpeg version ffmpeg version N-103105-gb9176dbfb7 Copyright (c) 2000-2021 the FFmpeg developers built with gcc 9 (Ubuntu 9.3.0-17ubuntu1~20.04) configuration: --prefix=/home/anatole/ffmpeg_build --extra-cflags=-I/home/anatole/ffmpeg_build/include --extra-ldflags=-L/home/anatole/ffmpeg_build/lib --extra-libs='-lpthread -lm' --ld=g++ --bindir=/home/anatole/bin --enable-gpl --enable-gnutls --enable-libwebp --enable-nonfree
humble pelican
yea idk i built from source
pearl grove
this is mine
built with gcc 10-win32 (GCC) 20210408
configuration: --prefix=/ffbuild/prefix --pkg-config-flags=--static --pkg-config=pkg-config --cross-prefix=x86_64-w64-mingw32- --arch=x86_64 --target-os=mingw32 --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --disable-debug --enable-shared --disable-static --disable-w32threads --enable-pthreads --enable-iconv --enable-libxml2 --enable-zlib --enable-libfreetype --enable-libfribidi --enable-gmp --enable-lzma --enable-fontconfig --enable-libvorbis --enable-opencl --enable-libvmaf --enable-vulkan --disable-libxcb --disable-xlib --enable-amf --enable-libaom --enable-avisynth --enable-libdav1d --enable-libdavs2 --disable-libfdk-aac --enable-ffnvcodec --enable-cuda-llvm --enable-libglslang --enable-libgme --enable-libass --enable-libbluray --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopus --enable-libtheora --enable-libvpx --enable-libwebp --enable-lv2 --enable-libmfx --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-librav1e --enable-librubberband --enable-schannel --enable-sdl2 --enable-libsoxr --enable-libsrt --enable-libsvtav1 --enable-libtwolame --enable-libuavs3d --disable-libdrm --disable-vaapi --enable-libvidstab --enable-libx264 --enable-libx265 --enable-libxavs2 --enable-libxvid --enable-libzimg --extra-cflags=-DLIBTWOLAME_STATIC --extra-cxxflags= --extra-ldflags=-pthread --extra-ldexeflags= --extra-libs=-lgomp --extra-version=20210802```options
humble pelican
did u copy paste that config from stackoverflow 
u definitely dont need 90% of those
wise violet
built with gcc 11.1.0 (GCC)
configuration: --prefix=/usr --disable-debug --disable-static --disable-stripping --enable-amf --enable-avisynth --enable-cuda-llvm --enable-lto --enable-fontconfig --enable-gmp --enable-gnutls --enable-gpl --enable-ladspa --enable-libaom --enable-libass --enable-libbluray --enable-libdav1d --enable-libdrm --enable-libfreetype --enable-libfribidi --enable-libgsm --enable-libiec61883 --enable-libjack --enable-libmfx --enable-libmodplug --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopencore_amrnb --enable-libopencore_amrwb --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libopus --enable-libpulse --enable-librav1e --enable-librsvg --enable-libsoxr --enable-libspeex --enable-libsrt --enable-libssh --enable-libsvtav1 --enable-libtheora --enable-libv4l2 --enable-libvidstab --enable-libvmaf --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libwebp --enable-libx264 --enable-libx265 --enable-libxcb --enable-libxml2 --enable-libxvid --enable-libzimg --enable-nvdec --enable-nvenc --enable-shared --enable-version3
libavutil 56. 70.100 / 56. 70.100
libavcodec 58.134.100 / 58.134.100
libavformat 58. 76.100 / 58. 76.100
libavdevice 58. 13.100 / 58. 13.100
libavfilter 7.110.100 / 7.110.100
libswscale 5. 9.100 / 5. 9.100
libswresample 3. 9.100 / 3. 9.100
libpostproc 55. 9.100 / 55. 9.100
we posting versions boys
where we droppin
deep sinew
Having a tiny version for only webp conversions is understandable, but for personal use, it makes sense to have access to every codec. It's a swiss army knife, after all
pearl grove
libavcodec 59. 4.100 / 59. 4.100
libavformat 59. 4.101 / 59. 4.101
libavdevice 59. 0.100 / 59. 0.100
libavfilter 8. 1.103 / 8. 1.103
libswscale 6. 0.100 / 6. 0.100
libswresample 4. 0.100 / 4. 0.100
libpostproc 56. 0.100 / 56. 0.100```
wait
pearl grove
cus i updated it yesterday
wise violet
deep sinew
version measuring contest pepeLaugh
humble pelican
time to resurrect thi pr https://github.com/SevenTV/ServerGo/pull/85
pearl grove
wise violet
@humble pelican if it works well enough why even leave an option for image magick
wasting cpu time
humble pelican
because it produces different results so leaving it up for now
if it works ok i'll remove imagemagick at some point
wise violet
••• Anatole and juan are typing...
humble pelican
but i don't want another may 26 incident where thousands of emotes get uploaded with terrible quality
wise violet
pearl grove
pearl grove
humble pelican
no i only have cum
wise violet
good
pearl grove
cum
pearl grove
step 3: turn off tts
wise violet
🚎 step 4:
pearl grove
••• step 5:
deep sinew
step 6: be sad because tts is always disabled in every server
pearl grove
step 7: despair
wise violet
step 7: go to a server where you have admin privileges
deep sinew
wise violet
step 8: go to step 1
pearl grove
deep sinew
step 20: go to 10
thick widget
step 1. goto step one step 2. 
wise violet
step 1. skip if trolling step 2. go to step 1
pearl grove
if you choose step 37: go to step 73, if you choose step 29: go to step 69
wise violet
can we start a counter proposal to make U+1F9CC a 
instead of this stupid thing 
https://web.archive.org/web/20201130081734/https://unicode.org/L2/L2019/19232-n5085-troll-emoji.pdf
deep sinew
I'd love that
wise violet
Troll is a candidate for inclusion in Unicode 14.0 scheduled for release in 2021 and was added to draft Emoji 14.0 in 2021.
but its the wrong kind of troll
and I'm pissed
deep sinew
I get tired of typing :tf: and know 99% of people don't know what that means
pearl grove
step 492: fill the #bugs-and-stuff with the 3943 page trolling manual
pearl grove
you could probably do it with a userscript
i have one that replaces emojis on any site with the twitter emojis
humble pelican
Yeah
This isn't good honestly @pearl grove
Lossless produces bigger file sizes than the input and lossy, even at 100 qscale has artifacts
Idk
I can put it up as an option but at the same time i dont really see the point when it doesnt support decoding webp
pearl grove
100 qscale has artifacts but they're hardly noticeable in my tests, and ImageMagick obviously also has artifacting as per my comparison, I understand it if its a matter of not having decoding support but the quality differences are negligible if not placebo
It seems to me like 75 qscale is around what the current IM implementation is
I guess I'm just not really seeing any major downsides to it other than decoding, but I also don't know what the situation looks like from the backend, I've never personally dealt with Go either so I don't know what kind of integration like that would look like
pearl grove
Are you not able to use the libwebp_anim codec?
humble pelican
i can i was just testing the difference on static images (there is none)
pearl grove
Oh alright
humble pelican
at qscale 75 it looks terrible though
wise violet
all three of those look the same for me @humble pelican
humble pelican
zoom in
wise violet
I see the compression
pearl grove
Does it look much different than ImageMagick though?
pearl grove
Also im in bed rn so I can't really look
wise violet
@humble pelican honestly this looks extremely comparable to what image magick produces
and if its much faster then I don't see the downside
humble pelican
yeah it's alright i guess
pearl grove
Yeah idk its not perfect obviously but especially at chat sizes like 56p it doesn't really need to be