#beta-discussion
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you could always tell your buddy to use Chatterino in the mean time, Archie
since i finally got around to stabilizing the backend the 3.0.1 nightly cycle is about to begin
he said he will get used to it
hes happy there is going to be options
the mod icons bother him also but thats getting corrected so he dont mind
he works full time hes not on twitch much
3.0.1 today ? 
animated or just customizable mod/vip badges thru t2 sub so people can fully move from other platforms
freed from complaints
will they have to open the native menu via the button each time or will there be a toggle. I can already see the bitching about no toggle 
why would you want to see only native emotes if youre using a third party emote extension
i mean youre probably right some people will bitch about it but at the same time it makes basically no sense if you think about it
that menu doesnt show anything besides twitch emotes
they arent going to like that there isn't a favorite emotes section except after clicking a button that doesnt include their 3rd party emotes is what my guess is
I think most people are thinking of like FFZ where IIRC 3rd party emotes are included as well
could be wrong its been like 2 months since I used it
what does this mean
is version 3.0.0 the beta or public version? chrome store is 3.0.0
it's partially released
also, is it just me or are a lot of emotes from BTTV and FFZ smaller than 7tv? I swear they were bigger and matched 7tv's size before the 3.0 update
not officially, but it's out to 20% of current users + new users
bttv/ffz have always been smaller (28px instead of 32px)
favorites are gonna be in 3.0.1 though
ah, I must have misremembered the sizes then. I'll have to bug streamers I watch to replace them with 7tv versions so they're all the same size then 
are you going to add emotes for channel youre not subbed in? (like locked emotes idk how to call it)
I'll be honest, I'm surprised there are people that access emote menus enough to need a favorites section. I literally always use auto-complete 
ahh my bad. I was confusing the favorite emotes section with just wanting to use native emotes. a button for that 100% makes sense. please disregard my extra set of chromosomes 
are people manually hunting down emotes instead of typing them 
i do it to check what emotes they have
thats mostly why i added the native menu bc it's time consuming to comb through twitch internals and find where that is
so its like a temp compromise


think of 3.0.1 as the "fix all the things people are bitching about" patch basically
which has been the plan
okay valid, yeah
will 3.0.1 bring back the worse chat 

but honestly if I do a tab-check on omegalul or something and they don't have it I don't expect them to have anything 
there were plans to make a patching-only chat but ima be honest probably not right now
i just dont see the point
like no one is gonna want to go back to native twitch chat after all the things they wanted are added
Hello, is there a way to disable "timestamps" in VODS, without fully turning off 7tv emotes? After 3.0 update, timestamps suddenly appeared in twitch vods.
yeah, but i need to check what laugh emote i can spam
anatole pls add horizontal chat 
wtf is horizontal chat
y
o
u
m
e
a
n
l
i
k
e
t
h
i
s
?
that shit that appears under the video? 

this is vertical
like this shit
no
i mean like this
y y y y
o o o o
u u u u
m m m m
e e e e
a a a a
n n n n
l l l l
i i i i
k k k k
e e e e
t t t t
h h h h
i i i i
s s s s
? ? ? ?
thats the only way i can think of "horizontal chat" 

AWWW HELL NAH
WTF IS THAT
april fools niconico chat 
Reupload from nico nico
02.03.2018 R.I.P.
He was (and still is) a legend and big inspiration to many of us.
bilibili chat ONLY
CHILLZ
we want the chat in the middle of our screens
we must pull up our pants

didnt someone have a higher quality video of that
mods here are too lazy to update emotes

?

Man
Ffz is a pain
I guess historical messages will just not work with ffz
Can't do anything about that for now

the paints are weird on video chat, some paints just don't show up or appear after long time (they work with FFZ with 7tv addon), the only paint I was able to spot there was the beta tester paint
could that be the same reason berry good paint doesn't appear properly on live chat? saw 7tv has some legacy cosmetics in #news but dunno if that is the difference
@kindred crown I have no idea why people still see this 
i was playing dota + having xqc chat behind, fps dropped so much 
what's the reason for 7tv overriding my ffz chat settings
appearance wise
I had version 2.2 before and I liked how I could use the qol features of 7tv with ffz appearance
3.0 overhauls the whole Twitch chat, so FFZ's busted on the chat side of things for the time being
but I think it's a higher priority to start adding the features people want rather than direct compatibility so that 7tv's more of a catch-all than anything
Could be wrong, but that's just my understanding 
v3 rewrites the entire chatbox, so chatbox-related settings from other extensions will do nothing on the new extension. The rewritten chatbox aims to increase performance and (eventually) integrate key 7tv site features like changing cosmetics, adding/removing from within chat without visiting the site, etc
so, this meansvompatability is more or less impossible, right?
I think there's potential in the future for ffz (potential 7tv add-on rewrite), but bttv has little care to communicate with us so that'll probably never happen. If you have certain chatbox features you'd like to see implemented in the new extension, feel free to suggest them in the integrations thread in #v3-help
yea I already did that
also where can I read more about what exactly the new chatbox/high performance does
what going on for this guy https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/11yxlkt/all_messages_in_chat_disappeared_after_latest_7tv/
0 votes and 0 comments so far on Reddit
it's firefox being weird p sure
browser restart should fix
I mentioned once before throwing the discord link up higher on the page for visibility would help people find it so much better. maybe twitter too? in a little socials section
I think literally the only time I scrolled down on the 7tv home page was to see if there was a discord 
now that all new installs are v3 users might be worth changing the version number for stable on the home page
new nightly later today, just addressing the common complaints
should then be prime for full release, with much less complaining going on
yippie!


I'm also receiving the same issue in both Firefox and Chrome versions. I've isolated the issue to enabling the Mod Slider when in Mod View. When Mod View is disabled, the browser retains the messages; when enabled, all previous messages are removed
is there a way to disable the first message highlight ?
shouldnt be enabled by default imo
thanks and agreed
Bill Tin 

@frank kite 


HUGE
When there is new settings there should be like a little green dot next to them kinda like ffz does imo 
is true theater mode for youtube broken? I used to be able to have chat on the right, and drag to hide.
Sooo with the FFZ compatability, does that mean FFZ is fully compatible now with 3.0? Or still bits an pieces like in the early builds?
Bits and pieces

literally
I want all my FFZ shit to work tho 
when you scale the emotes and push the emote spacing under 0 rem it gets kinda dank
vmyk is no longer AFK: (no message) (1h, 23m ago)
this is expected behavior
when you set emote spacing to negative
what your saying is that you want emotes to be layed out smaller than they actually are
so the lower negative number the more text around the emote will overlap
ye didn't rlly think about that, but i've found a good size for it so it's all fine now
the default value makes it so that emotes push out into the padding area for the message contents
it still scales with emote size though
lemme know if this version runs well for you guys
there might be another nightly with a few more changes (mostly styling-related)
it seems like the chat input box, with respect to plain typing/backspacing etc., gets progressively laggier with each emote I add to the chat, on Firefox
well that's not our fault
that's just twitch
and also the other extensions that dirtily modify this mess of an input box
wasn't happening until today, though, did something change on that end with latest update? 
seems like the lag 'begins' at the moment I press space to 'complete' a tab autocompletion
hm, closed and re-opened tab, and doesn't seem to be happening now... 
wtf :)
@true flower unless thats the workaround you made to block slate stuff from the other extensions
but i doubt it
the twitch input is just a disaster
oh yeah?
shouldnt be
i mean, it could be
like reading in a million times
which it does add a small overhead to every read
which is why i didnt want to touch slate in the first place like that
but ffz forced us to
every little thing added to the input box is amplified by a factor of 50,000
but it shouldnt be any worse before or after emotes were tab completed no
oof
I'm so fucking dank.... I was playing around with settings and I was like huh why doesn't the Most Used section persist between chats for a good 2 minutes before my dumbass realized maybe just maybe not everyone has the same emotes
BING RITARD MOMENT!
Otherwise everything working really well, the toggle to move the 3rd party emotes to back below the chat and let people still have the native menu they love is gonna silence a good deal of haters
welp, seems to be alright again for now, that was weird...sorry if false alarm, don't want to annoy you guys with shit that isn't actually broken, I can tell y'all are working hard ๐
there is gonna be an attempt at making a new input box in the near term
like, that thing is in an even worse state than the chat list
oh and this is definately real
but not caused by us
and not neccisarilly do to tab complete
I see 
but rather the native emotes themselves
oh, really? fug
its absolutely horrible
beyond what you'd even imagine
given the lag
yes i love the entire area around the chatbox being reconstructed and recalculated 50 times for every keystroke
every keystroke reparses everything before it again
even if its already been tokenized, it destroys it and then rebuilds it
multiple times per keystroke
^ I'm glad this is something that's even possible, then
its so bad that literally any slight overhead you put into the chatbox will be extremely noticeable
was the font changed on these or am I having a schizo moment? 
yeah it was
alright glad I'm not losing it! I like it tho 
will favorited emotes have priority doing :emote later on?
until this happens, maybe a button could be added that re-loads the chat, as a workaround for that creeping lag that seems to build over time?
yeah, this lag thing I'm experiencing, never happened before most recent version, and now I find myself needing to refresh the tab regularly to get rid of it temporarily 
Try turning off hardware acceleration in your browser? 
could you test this with no extensions enabled
is it possible to have smaller steps when scaling emotes?
1.0 way too big and 0.75 way too smol
nevermind my chat be buggin 1.0 fine now
people out here like
I want 3x emotes. that shit takes up literally like 25% of chat. how the fuck do ya'll watch streams 
I noticed a few complainers saying that the emotes for some reason were too big i dont think 'emotes are too small complainers' were the reason the behind this setting
i thought it was a bug or something
I think it happened with FFZ emotes. for some reason I remember that being mentioned before
w! h! v! z! commands arent working after the 7tv update
I think this should be reworded to explain that moving the 7tv emote button will return the old native menu
yeah there are no plans to implement the ffz modifiers at the moment
dont count this as a confirmation but a free alternative for all chatters to use modifiers would be a good addition
Its not planned to support those
are they?
either way no plans to support ffz or bttv ones
damn sadge
neither 
the irony of night using
as the emote for this
IF modifiers are supported, they'll be free and not behind paywall
modifiers should be available for all users
trying things out
on that note, though, any particular reason that when autocompleting a bttv emote, there's no 'white brace thing pointing down' at the emote while it's selected, and also when you press space, the text isn't replaced by the emote in the input box?
Can try to give visual aid if explanation is lacking 
Because unfortunately their implementations of this are almost as bad as the slate chat itself
and cause inexplicable errors
that cause tab complete to stop working entirely
ah 
and occasionally the slate chat to crash, even with 7tv not enabled
so, preliminary result is that even with only 4 extensions enabled including 7tv (the others being bitwarden, group speed dial, and sidebery--without those on the browser is a lot harder to use overall lole), that lag issue still seems to be creeping up 
refreshing the tab brings the lag back to zero, but then it starts creeping up again as I do stuff in chat...haven't tested to see if it does with me only watching and not doing anything in chat, though
not sure if the feedback helps at all but I'm also a bitwarden user and I am NOT having these issues. I am however on chrome 
yeah, I'm pretty doubtful about any of these 3 being the culprit...can't shake the fact that I've had zero issue along these lines before updating the extension today, and I've been on the beta ever since the version where it was announced it reached feature parity with v2...is there a way to revert to the nightly version right before the current one, so I can test that way?
wait, I forgot you can freely install old versions on the firefox addon page lole
I'm going to try
damn, took a lot of attempts to get Firefox to stop insta-updating the old version install to the newest version 
yeah, so far it's night and day, went back to normal instantly upon reverting to 3.0.0.19800 ...something happened in this latest version 
thinking about what's changed between those two versions...maybe it's got something to do with the implementation of the 'most used emotes' thing that was added?
yeah, deliberately autocompleting various emotes back to back in the chat is not causing lag to start creeping up, but reliably did so on the newest version...I'm trying to get it to happen and it's not happening on 3.0.0.19800
there appears to be a favourite emote option and appearently that page is supposed to also have most frequent emotes
it seems buggy though
cant favourite sub emotes
I have a feeling that category of features is where my issue is coming from, too 
Now I'm pretty much 100% sure it's some issue with the most recent version, I'm still perfect on 3.0.0.19800, hours later
I'm experiencing the same issue about chat lagging while writing, only with an F5 it fixes it for a bit. Using firefox with like 2 extension active (disabled on twitch page)
Anyone know why this is happening these are all gifted subs but it goes blank and doesnt show the text?
I get similiar usually when entering chat. The first new message after the chat history has been played is blank.
btw the raspberry paint issue seems to be fixed for me in latest version, nice
what kind of issue did you have ? 
raspberry paint looked like this
prob just was fucked in the older vers
holy. never happened to me though. 
im using the 7tv beta but my name color on the chat never changed is there a way to fix it ?
are you sure its raspberry and not berry good?
oh, I guess that's why it works then
thought it was that paint
does this happen consistently?
including after a refresh
Yes
what extensions do you have enabled
could you screenshot your compatibility page
-> settings -> check compatability
tab completion is still broken for me, though maybe this isn't the same issue the changelog mentioned fixing. (i have FFZ enabled)
In this clip I keep mashing tab in that whole video. It encounters
and decides to place the emote instead of continuing to tab through more emotes
your on nightly?
is that all of your extensions?

what's broken here? 
I suppose I didn't explain and I should. I keep mashing tab in that whole video. It encounters
and decides to place the emote instead of continuing to tab through more emotes
not all sub emotes do this though
might be a conflict with ffz then 
I think I figured it out
That emote is both a sub emote and it's also in BTTV under an identical name
weird
I guess that's breaking the tab logic somehow
the textbox will get rewritten soon
oh yeah
thats definately it
@kindred crown new bug
can be fixed
just needs tweaking to the tab logic
bruh moment
it needs to prio twitch emotes
the reason this is happening is because getMatches is returning that its not a twitch emote
because it hits the bttv token first
telling the tab completer its ok to put a space
but twitch is completing the sub token
because of the space
this would have been the issue for ffz as well
our patch was still correct though
one of those dual issue bugs
when im using the beta my streams are always lagging - anyone got the same problem?
are you using a password manager extension? if so, which?
i dont
can you screenshot the compat tab

could you do the general catch-all "only 7TV enabled" and see if it still lags
also, make sure you dont have the 7TV website loaded
due to the volume of images and a bug with chrome's hardware acceleration, our site can actually cause other tabs to stall out due to running out of threads (or something of sorts)
where do i find that setting
i meant that as in disable all other extensions
i think thats the main reason it sometimes lag for me - it always lags when i do something else on my second monitor
if i tab in again on my stream tab it works perfectly fine
yeah thats probably it, we submitted a bug on chromium's tracker a while ago but it still hasnt been fixed afaik
alright thank you i will check if something changes
Tried new version 3.0.1.3000, and that lag issue I mentioned previously is still there, noticed it starting to creep up (not shocked about that since nothing in changelog about it), reverting to 3.0.0.19800 instantly fixed it again 
Me too, same issue
will be fixed in 3.0.2

would you mind testing a feature build?
okay 
you can load it as a debug addon
about:addons -> disable 7tv/nightly
about:debugging#/runtime/this-firefox -> load temporary addon
it will uninstall itself if you restart firefox
do I feed it the .zip directly?
okay, so you're looking to know if the lag issue creeps up on this build, right?
will probably take me a little bit to determine, since it's gradual
sorry, but I see it still starting to happen.
Confirmed by reloading the tab and having it be instant again. You start noticing delays when you 'confirm' a tab autocomplete, when you type, and when you backspace an emote away

I know part of it is that I'm very sensitive to latency in general lole, but it's at the point where I was able to deduce that the addon had auto-updated to latest version without me realizing, by noticing the symptom happening
My educated guess is that it's related in some way to the added functionality of either setting favorite emotes, and/or tracking most used emotes
If it helps, the main way I identify that it's happening, is by simply adding LUL to the input box, hitting space to place the emote itself in there, hitting backspace once to get rid of the space, then hitting backspace one more time to delete the emote, taking note of if there's any noticeable delay between me striking the key the second time, and the emote disappearing
are you using any other extensions? 
I've tested with all disabled but bitwarden, group speed dial, and sidebery (without those enabled, the browser is a lot harder to use overall lole), no difference. Seriously doubt any of those three are the issue, especially when reverting version instantly fixes it 
No other twitch extensions?
nope
damn
I'm trying also this, and for now it seems not fix the issue, also if i spam random type into input chatbox also stream starts to lag
what extensions do you have enabled?
This
But ublock and dark reader are not enabled on twitch
Hi, is there any chance we can have the clips miniature on the chat?
oh nvm
i saw the suggestions
kinda random question...does anyone know if it's possible to install an extension (namely 7TV) on the browser extension OBS uses for its chat dock window? 

go to the ffz control center thing and enable the 7tv add-on
I've used that to see 7TV emotes, but I want the full-on 7TV extension with its snappy performance 
I think the only way to do that would be to pop the chat out from the browser and just letting it hover over the chat dock in OBS
I just tested it and it carries over to the pop-out
yeah, there's issues with doing it that way that I don't remember off the top of my head, but I know I've tried it and did not consider it a solution lol
I remember having to mess with userchrome.css just so that Firefox would allow me to decrease the width of the window enough 
.. theres no animation wdym
first you complain about there being animation, then you complain about there not being one

I believe that is sarcasm
threads dont work like this
there is no concept of a thread internally on twitch
just a parent message, if a parent message has a parent message of its own the parent is automatically set to the first parent
then "threads" are actually just any messages that share a single parent
twitch handles this on tmi
if you send a reply to any message that is itself a reply its just set to the same message as the first
sorry sir
yeah its a slightly lazy implementation
on twitch's side
but it does get rid of a lot of complexity, it makes sense why its done this way
classic twitch
there is no tracking of chains of replies
just stateless data that can be patched in at the time of retrieval
and quickly indexed clientside
yeah its the reason that people used to look like they @still swallow themselves
on chatterino
if someone replied to you
OH YEAH
How come some show just a blank message
https://i.imgur.com/jfp5VvD.png
and you replied to their reply
thats funny
your reply is set to be parented to your own message
yeah I remember that
which only can display correctly if your looking at a thread preview
still, it needs to be fixed
well, it cant be fixed, is the thing
thats the downside
to the way they designed it
there is no such thing as the "last message" of a thread
I don't care if it CAN be fixed. It NEEDS to be fixed.
MAKE IT HAPPEN!
I got made fun of by a FFZ user 
because of how my reply looked to them
also it would be absolutely bussin if the chat log could be used so that you could see a user's recent message when you click their name, like how channel moderators can see all their messages
it would be fun for users to have an easy way to see that in a similar way
(like you can do with chatterino)
yeah thats been high on my list
the twitch user card is shit
loads very slowly
ill remake it
I meant that itโs bugged and the window moves into the place after some delay
Hereโs a question. Iโm using a Kiwi browser on android itโs based on chrome. Developer mode is enabled and all extensions for desktop browser are available to install. Iโve had 7tv v2 on it for a year. For some reason v3 doesnโt even show up when installed. Any ideas?

hmm, did the latest release break auto completion via : in chat for subscriber emotes on firefox?
clearing cache also didnt fix it this time 
autocompletion for 7tv,bttv and ffz emotes work
tab autocompletion still works
change your name 
no 

Add the ffz feature to remove unwanted badges from chat so i can continue to ignore the existence of VIPs

gifted subs incident 
seems to be every sub
I had a bug similar to this last night, but it was replacing my username every time someone redeemed a specific (or any? idr) channel point redemption (or not similar I'm fucking dumb LMAO)
So if X redeemed it, it'd change my username to theirs. Y would redeem it, then it'd change to Y. and any time someone @'d me it'd reflect that replacement
was about to post the same issue, interesting tho 
I'm assuming all of you have ffz installed?
I do, but I'd never seen that happen before
Can confirm it is a FFZ problem again 
can you check in your console
if the line [7TV] [INFO] <FFZ-Compat> FrankerFaceZ detectedโpatching for compatibility. woof
is present
if it is, then this is a ffz issue, and not something that we can fix
woof
ffz
who asked?

any news ? 
3.0.1 will go live tonight, will be monitoring for this performance issue some people are experiencing
Hopefully 3.0.2 will get instant approval now that google surely must've went through and greenlit everything

Hello
Hello, an update in the beta test?
nvm its the discussion stuff
I was not given the color of the beta test
oh, okay, I'm sorry, it's just that some viewers did not update 7tv on the broadcast, so I thought that a beta test was given
thanks for the information
The last day for the paint was 3/9 
i have custom colors, but mentioned color is still on red
or it must be on red when someone mentioned my nickname?
@kindred crown im sorry for tagging, but this is a big issue: The lag thing which happens, is there any info why it happens on the nightly version?
It doesnt happen on 3.0.0 but on nightly it does
I switched away from Nightly to 3.0.0 cuz it was unusable for me. Id love to stick with nightly tho, ty and gl
They found the issue and fixed it but and the next patch 3.0.2 should have it
o, ty. A update would be nice in the bug thread, but ty 
Firefox hasn't updated the extension yet ๐
3.0.2 is not out btw I'm just saying the next patch will have it 
I mean Firefox is still running 3.0.0 not 3.0.1
goddamn furry browser
Yeah
they denied our extension
and removed it from the store
the reasoning they gave, and the build logs though
were from a completely different extension
they reviewed someone elses code and then rejected ours
xD
you telling me you decided to fully roll out v3 while firefox still hasn't approved 3.0.1
First time seeing this reported. What browser and another other extensions are installed?
brave and kind of a lot
umm maybe just the ones affecting twitch?
the only conflicting one in the compatibility check was nordpass
and the only other twitch one is BTTV
Could you care to try disabling one after the other to see if it fixed it? Could help us fix it in the future if we know exactly what causes it
for sure
NordVPN has been hacked plenty of times... I recommend to never save ur passowords any other place than a IRL notebook
i disabled both of those and the bug is still there
im fairly sure nordpass itself hasnt been hacked yet but thank you for the heads up 
very strange. I guess we'll just note it down as a brave bug for now. If you're bothered to disable any or all other extensions except for 7tv then we'd appreciate the data.
ill try that too
You don't have to but making it a #1011978838848311316 post really helps a dev get back to it
just found the issue, its was twitch dvr player, i made a bug post though so its easier for you guys 
thank you
btw pls add support for Kick whenever possible, no matter how controversial it might be we really need emotes 
you guys do great work
If kick wants 7tv support, their dev can implement it themselves
#general message
oh ok sick, thank you guys!
not sure if it has already been addressed. but since i updated to the Beta. when i'm typing in chat. there is a noticeable lag. the lag doesnt happen anywhere else besides twitch
Its known and is being worked on
Hopefully fixed in 3.0.2
Thank you!
yo how tf do i disable that shit
u block and show stars over swear words now?
wtf are we 12?
this happend after the update
dafq is this
how do i fix it?
huh
New to me 
omfg
why did that auto turn on after update?
wow
thanks tho
fixed it โค๏ธ
probably was never disabled in the first place
bruh :rlytho:

iam using twitch for 6 years now with this off
never turned it on
Were you using other twitch extensions prior
and iam watching big streamers like xqc and such so i would've noticed
i have always used bttv and then 7tv
bttv probably had it disabled on their end by default
it was off for years iit just turned on after this update
this aim of this update was to be as close as possible to twitch's native chatbox while focusing heavily on performance
so the entire chatbox was rewritten and took priority over bttv
oh nice
hence why it took your native settings
idk when it was added onto twitch but that's likely the reasoning

thanks @versed temple

might be a dumb question but why is it still showing me the beta paint and no badge when on the 7tv site i have a colour and a badge selected? 
You need to be a sub to show a badge.
i am a sub 
https://7tv.app/users/631d4d3f4f3e0f1fc59f9fc5
It doesn't show the sub role 
cause ive had a name change, my old name was turtlehuh
so there's 2 accounts on 7tv now. one for the old name, one for the new name. there's a way to get that sorted for sure, but idk. you could ask in #help-old to get a faster answer.
I think baldman has explained this 100 times 
I believe all you have to do is sign out and back in on the site (DO NOT UNLINK YOUR ACCOUNT)
^
Yea I'm sure I read the solution 100+ times but there are so many people messing with their usernames in different ways that I don't remember xD
no mod slider?
need to disable 7TV in order for it to work
how can I revert to previous version?
you dont
What other extensions do you have
betterttv frankerz and 7tv
they all worked before 7tv update

when I right click a name in chat I get
edge chromium\
I'll try disabling other extensions and get back to you
There is no implemented right click menu atm
Using a vpn with twitch has been a bit broken recently, nothing to do with 7tv
You can't even login if you're using a vpn
And sometimes using a vpn will make it so you can't vote in polls, predictions, block, DM, or even claim drops
It's so dogshit
never had any issues at all with vpn
only thing I see is
If I click on someone I get this menu on the side
dunno if thats twitch or 7tv
that's the native twitch user card in mod view
yeah I suppose it's the new chat overhaul
great extension tho love it thx for the help
๐
Can i ask if someone can sign in through 7TV in twitch settings ? I've been trying to log in for a few weeks but it still doesn't work
you mean like this ? 
yea exactly
do you have an error popping when trying to connect ?
yes
maybe you can check inspect element -> console 
everything seems to be ok, I try to uninstall and download the browser
I re-downloaded everything but now I can't even see the name badge and color, it's like I don't have the subscription

mhh okok i just wait
maybe disabled third-party cookies are causing issues with the login? it doesn't work for me either but it's not like it does anything rn iirc
yea probaboly this
Is the beta (7tv nightly) still different to the normal 7tv? Or has normal 7tv updated to include the features already?
(And where do I put bug reports, here or on the normal bugs section?)
both nightly and stable are on 3.0.1, unless you're on firefox I think on firefox it's still on 3.0
I'm chrome, so yeah I expect they are the same. But I will use this section in case nightly is a few sub-versions ahead
Currently the same version
new nightly for input lag coming up


im gonna work on a way to have immediate updates (without needing review from incompetent google/mozilla reviewers)
after this patch is out
aka the extension will download the code from our servers

this is what ffz does, i imagined it wasnt gonna be an issue since so far we were getting approved within the hour
but well, was wrong
reviewer interns have 0 iq
after the firefox blunder I don't blame ya one bit 
I just updated, i'll try today and tomorrow and let you know
holy based
Had the issue, I can tell you tomorrow if its fixed
aight
due to time constraints with the risk of long review times this will probably go live tonight (with a number of other changes/requested additions)
we have to do a little trolling soon so thats being included too 

yeah seems fixed, cant reproduce the issue after update 


i had the issue, trying to update but it's just stuck on the downloading thing 
are you on firefox?
yeah
apologies if this has been discussed, was looking around for others getting stuck on downloading but couldn't see anything
update on firefox is not working atm
gotcha, is the best thing just to uninstall & reinstall nightly?
yes, nightly should be working fine I think
on firefox I'm pretty sure you need to update manually since there was an issue with the update thing on the extension
firefox doesn't support extensions updating themselves
you can update by going to your addons
and then check for updates
[the pag has seen something amazing and proceeded to bounce]


anyone not seeing any badges in chat (mod vip subs) after the update? only one that appears is the 7tv sub one 
FFZ conflict, try disabling chat processing in FFZ
Debugging -> Chat -> Chat Processing
FFZ is stripping away some information about messages before we receive them
chat processing is supposed to be disabled by default, however somethings gone wrong either on our or ffz's side where this request is not being respected in some situations
ohh okay, think i'll just disable ffz till it's fixed since 7tv shows everything anyway. thank you!
Pretty smooth so far 
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I mentioned this in the #1063506536154026024 channel a while back. Been having issues updating in Brave for most beta/Nightly versions. A couple of them worked a while back. None of the recent ones have updated though - always have to remove the extension and re-download it from the web store
For now no more input lag, so i guess it's everything fixed 
how to get this color
Not possible anymore
whyy
last day it was available was 3/9
It ended on the 9th i believe
ohh okay ty
Input lag issue is gone for me as well
the threads also seem to work correctly now, but is it intentional that you cant reply to deleted messages anymore? Pretty sure it was possible before
I believe this has already been changed
tested it in another chat now, it's working
for some reason it doesn't work if you delete your own message and then try to reply to it

now i can say i have a colour that isnt possible to get anymore lol

Same 
every paint that has been released prior too
nice nice
lol
how can you see new beta features xd i never really was looking forward in beta etc
uhhh there's a big list on Twitter holdup
also just look at changelogs in #news
oh thanks lol
you have all the 75 previous paints right?
Im still experiencing lag after a while in the chat, anyone else? 
what version are you on?
can you screenshot it so we can be sure you have the right one?
Weird
what are your setting in the chat > performance tab? @cedar forge
Now i've refreshed the page and its fixed, i'll see if happen again
50 ms , 0 ms , 150 lines
Wait you're on 50ms message batching?
I have every available paint except for the twitchcon paint
day 1 sub 
yes
BRO 
isn't it 450 
I think so, but definitely not 50ms 
Lowered it since first betas, never had problems
gonna increase it, lets see if improve situation
Yeah having it on 50 sounds like a disaster
performance issues are still there and it happens everytime i open the emote menu(which is laggy as fuck btw)
^ on Firefox
nothing
it means there are no issues to note
extensions with known issues are highlighted, and their issues described
Problem still persistent, tried 150 and 300 ms with no difference
Latest option, deleted all cache, hopefully fixes
I saw someone else saying they are having a similar problem too
This is normal I guess, isn't it? When replying in a thread where I am the one who started it, make the mention sound
I made a post in #1011978838848311316 about an extension that was completely breaking the settings menu, just wanted to make sure it was seen so it can be added to compatibility
Oh yeah, I'll have that added

did you just open the channel your on?
sometimes twitch emotes take a bit to load, but the menu doesnt autorefresh once that happens
the only way I can replicate it is when I open/refresh a page and the moment 7TV loads in I basically speedrun my way to the menu.
yea, thats what i meant
if I open and close the menu it fixes it completely. just gotta not have that juicer ADHD andy react time 
I NEED EMOTE NOW
Ideally it would display a loading icon (like
or something I make) if the menu is opened before stuff is ready. Then also ideally it would load the emotes once itโs ready, rather than requiring it to be closed an reopened
I noticed that when someone reply in a thread it works like before the latest update (that i preferred), and if i reply to a thread it works like the native chat of Twitch. idk if i explained it well, i hope so ahaha
not always, some times
ty
I dont like how pinned messages now dont show the name of the person who sent the message
it just shows the mod who pinned it and the message itself
it does show tho? 

depends on if the thing is extended or not
the first time I pinned it was not automatically extended
the second time I tried it it was
i just tested in the native twitch chat and it does the exact same thing 
probably changed via another extension 
thats just native functionality
it was different when twitch way back added the feature
but that was almost useless anyways since it 90% of the time just showed the username and cut off the actual important part
https://i.imgur.com/YIhT80M.png Anyone know the reason this is happening again?
just happens with ffz
if you've got inline previews disabled
the setting is a lil scuffed
we dont change it anymore and dont patch out the tokens, but if you have old leftover settings
then it might still be scuffed
make sure you dont have a profile named "7TV Persistant"
if you do delete it
and then refresh
where do i check that?
FFZ settings -> Top left click profiles
then manage
then if theres a profile there called 7TV persistent
hit edit
and delete in the top right
@lavish hedge
ok
new 7tv is broken beyond belief. Is there a way to return it to previous version?
no, 3.0.2 coming soonโข๏ธ
will they fix it?
this is what it fixes #news message
you can use nightly in the meantime if you want
Welp if you can list what is broken
Maybe the devs can work on it
are people blind?
How dare you not know exactly what I'm talking about in my head
ANALTALL
FIX EXTENCHIN
I NOT TELL YOU WHAT FIX, JUST FIX 
Are you just blind where's you're telekenesis
@true flower fix their problem NOW 
No I won't tell you whats wrong, its just totally broken, and it is, that's all there is to it
Everyone must not have eyes because they don't see how broken it is 
while u're at it, can you fix cancer mr. dev?
Nightly works fine for me
exactly this
it's kinda weird I have to say
like it's some sort of cult and people can't see the problems
this bit sucks
you realise everyone does not have the same setup
extension works on some and doesnt work on others
so you not providing any details does not help with anything
I'm p sure they're baiting now 
One thing a lot of people have trouble with is they become dependant on various features from FFZ. The new extension works differently than the old version in that it doesn't merely enable the 7TV addon in FFZ, so they just assume things are broken.
subs don't show in chat, replies have 50% chance of not apperaing when you click on the msg, subs don't show what channel their from (maybe there's setting for that), deleted msges have line through and i can't remove it
finally
i'll get back to you for more
actual answers 
Did you not bother reading the link I sent you
no read
just fix 
i'm in the wrong channel I'm talking about 7tv not nightly
subs show up in nightly
sry for that
nightly is 7tv
Google is stalling on approving the update to the "main" version
But nightly is up to date
what is nightly like experimental?
^
Nightly is the pre-release of the live version
idk i'm not using nightly i'm using 7tv i'm in the wrong channel
The devs can't do anything to fix the main version because Google is stalling
oh my god
Google approves the nightly version immediately though

im asking here if it has any plans to get fixed
nah they're just being intentionally dumb as fuck lmao
maybe
are people blind?
i had to explain the obvious issues
nightly is 7tv, with the fixes you are asking for

and more coming every day
so they will get fixed on main one?
just install Nightly holy shit 
im not installing 30 different 7tvs
2 = 30
since when were there 30 7tvs?
LIterally least intelligent dgg member 
theres 7 tvs
210 tvs 

i don't go to destinys im pureply for the culture
๐ ๐ค DGG4LYFE
just fix the app that's all I'm here for

Install nightly
you know everything you are talking about is getting fixed
theres a thing called time you know?
Most of the fixes are being stalled by Google
^
Or disable
and install the nightly
getting things early > getting things later
remove the stable version lmao
Nightly > day-ly
disable!!
It's not actually "stable" though
k tnx guys peace

(probably watches Hasan more than Destiny) 
jesus what did I just read 
LMAO same, just came here to watch the whole combo and oh my lord
People can just be so dumb, either that or just a child.
nah probably both
what a fucking retard 
what do you mean all my issues I listed are fixed on nightly
Heh yeah right, not gonna install it how about that
Sure got you didn't I, now what are you gonna do
lucky for him, that version is out now 
lil bro probably won't ever refresh his twitch page then
NO I WILL NOT UPDATE HOW WILL I BE MAD THEN
if v2 hasn't already been shutdown. can't wait for the smug dickheads who tried to make it some sort of "stick it to the man" that they were going to the github and running v2 that way realizing when they were told there was going to be no more v2 they weren't being lied to https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/775145377413988373.gif?size=48&quality=lossless
That means youre in that dogshit too

Yes that is what "mutual servers" means
It's buried in a folder though. Not one of the servers I actually visit.
Says the Hasan viewer 

paints and badges take ages to load. randomly disappearing or appearing in wrong order.
do tell
damn addon got even more broken with the chatter badges disappearing
I trust this is getting fixed
Event API is totally fucked
Only like 75% of users will be able to use it at once until there is a fix for it next week
See #news
is the way to disable 7tv on youtube by opening the onboarding again and toggling it off there? doing so doesnt seem to actually work though
right now 7TV doesnt work on YT. google hasnt approved oauth for them so things are kinda stuck ded
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/905534497674653746.webp?size=48&quality=lossless too many users, too much success. we're gonna have to draw straws and send some of us to night and bttv...
Hm. I thought it was causing issues with tagging people in youtube chat, maybe it's another extension I have causing it. It coincidentally started the day the v3 update got pushed out to my Chrome
I dont think any of 7tv affects youtube
And it hasnt for a very long time
That has always been a coming soon โข๏ธ feature for as long as I've used 7tv 
It definitely had several youtube features in v2
Like what?
It also seems to still at least add 7TV global emotes to the chat
I never got my fucking animated avatar
And thats literally ALL that matters

I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR ANIMATED YOUTUBE AVATARS FOR 12 MONTHS
it had emote support for channels, global emotes, a better theater mode, i think maybe a few other tiny things I can't remember at the moment
yeah i know youtube chat is complete garbage but yeah those worked
The global emotes do work in v3 right now though, just tested
youre correct. however only a very limited number of people were able to use it on YT because they've literally been waiting on google since forever ago! https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/954958704283885608.gif?size=48&quality=lossless
interesting
i totally uninstalled ffz and bttv and things are working for me now. only ffz badges won't show up anymore. 7tv features and chat are 
FFZ custom mod/vip badges are planned to be supported in the future.. I made a few of the mod/vip badges for communities I'm in and its cool seeing them in the chat.

BTW using the latest nightly.
7tv + better TV seems to break channel Points not able to redeem any or claim channel points bonus with both installed. I have no need for better tv anymore as 7tv has added the features I used it for now. Just a FYI
ty for the info
will check
emote sounds are
!
...this is an April Fool's thing, isn't it? 
no
ok my bad 



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