#beta-discussion

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kindred crown
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just gonna address all the common complaints first then go large

wet cedar
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you could always tell your buddy to use Chatterino in the mean time, Archie

kindred crown
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since i finally got around to stabilizing the backend the 3.0.1 nightly cycle is about to begin

wraith bay
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hes happy there is going to be options

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the mod icons bother him also but thats getting corrected so he dont mind

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he works full time hes not on twitch much

patent pewter
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3.0.1 today ? Wokege

kindred crown
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probably not ive only just gotten around to fixing the servers

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tomorrow tho NODDERS

covert sparrow
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Prayge animated or just customizable mod/vip badges thru t2 sub so people can fully move from other platforms

kindred crown
versed temple
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FeelsStrongMan freed from complaints

sacred pike
# kindred crown

will they have to open the native menu via the button each time or will there be a toggle. I can already see the bitching about no toggle LULE

kindred crown
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ApuThink why would you want to see only native emotes if youre using a third party emote extension

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i mean youre probably right some people will bitch about it but at the same time it makes basically no sense if you think about it

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that menu doesnt show anything besides twitch emotes

sacred pike
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they arent going to like that there isn't a favorite emotes section except after clicking a button that doesnt include their 3rd party emotes is what my guess is

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I think most people are thinking of like FFZ where IIRC 3rd party emotes are included as well FeelsDankMan could be wrong its been like 2 months since I used it

covert sparrow
unborn copper
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is version 3.0.0 the beta or public version? chrome store is 3.0.0

kindred crown
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it's partially released

unborn copper
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also, is it just me or are a lot of emotes from BTTV and FFZ smaller than 7tv? I swear they were bigger and matched 7tv's size before the 3.0 update

kindred crown
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not officially, but it's out to 20% of current users + new users

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bttv/ffz have always been smaller (28px instead of 32px)

kindred crown
unborn copper
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ah, I must have misremembered the sizes then. I'll have to bug streamers I watch to replace them with 7tv versions so they're all the same size then sadge

tardy grotto
wet cedar
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I'll be honest, I'm surprised there are people that access emote menus enough to need a favorites section. I literally always use auto-complete LULE

sacred pike
wet cedar
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are people manually hunting down emotes instead of typing them ApuThink

sacred pike
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right? like I cannot tell you the last time I opened the emote menu

tardy grotto
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i do it to check what emotes they have

kindred crown
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so its like a temp compromise

sacred pike
kindred crown
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think of 3.0.1 as the "fix all the things people are bitching about" patch basically

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which has been the plan

wet cedar
sacred pike
wet cedar
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but honestly if I do a tab-check on omegalul or something and they don't have it I don't expect them to have anything OMEGALUL

kindred crown
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there were plans to make a patching-only chat but ima be honest probably not right now

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i just dont see the point

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like no one is gonna want to go back to native twitch chat after all the things they wanted are added

celest hill
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Hello, is there a way to disable "timestamps" in VODS, without fully turning off 7tv emotes? After 3.0 update, timestamps suddenly appeared in twitch vods.

tardy grotto
wet cedar
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anatole pls add horizontal chat Prayeg

kindred crown
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pajaDank wtf is horizontal chat

tardy grotto
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like bilibili

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or w/e its name is?

kindred crown
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sacred pike
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that shit that appears under the video? AINTNOWAY

wet cedar
tardy grotto
wet cedar
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like this shit

tardy grotto
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horizontal is the other way

kindred crown
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no

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i mean like this

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y y y y
o o o o
u u u u
m m m m
e e e e
a a a a
n n n n
l l l l
i i i i
k k k k
e e e e
t t t t
h h h h
i i i i
s s s s
? ? ? ?

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thats the only way i can think of "horizontal chat" LULE

wet cedar
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april fools niconico chat Prayeg

tardy grotto
frank kite
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bilibili chat ONLY

frank kite
# kindred crown

also nice, finally free from complaints of how "garbage" the chat is

kindred crown
frank kite
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Lemao we want the chat in the middle of our screens

frank kite
tardy grotto
frank kite
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didnt someone have a higher quality video of that

tardy grotto
covert sparrow
frank kite
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o

kindred crown
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Man

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Ffz is a pain

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I guess historical messages will just not work with ffz

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Can't do anything about that for now

sacred pike
celest sorrel
hasty flint
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the paints are weird on video chat, some paints just don't show up or appear after long time (they work with FFZ with 7tv addon), the only paint I was able to spot there was the beta tester paint
could that be the same reason berry good paint doesn't appear properly on live chat? saw 7tv has some legacy cosmetics in #news but dunno if that is the difference

graceful oxide
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@kindred crown I have no idea why people still see this nymnDank

amber kelp
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i was playing dota + having xqc chat behind, fps dropped so much xqcScoots

glad oasis
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what's the reason for 7tv overriding my ffz chat settings

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appearance wise

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I had version 2.2 before and I liked how I could use the qol features of 7tv with ffz appearance

wet cedar
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3.0 overhauls the whole Twitch chat, so FFZ's busted on the chat side of things for the time being

glad oasis
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you say for the time being

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does this mean its being worked on

wet cedar
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yes lol

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temporarily incompatible

glad oasis
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I see

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could have been that compatibility is impossible

wet cedar
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but I think it's a higher priority to start adding the features people want rather than direct compatibility so that 7tv's more of a catch-all than anything

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Could be wrong, but that's just my understanding Shrugeg

covert sparrow
# glad oasis what's the reason for 7tv overriding my ffz chat settings

v3 rewrites the entire chatbox, so chatbox-related settings from other extensions will do nothing on the new extension. The rewritten chatbox aims to increase performance and (eventually) integrate key 7tv site features like changing cosmetics, adding/removing from within chat without visiting the site, etc

glad oasis
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so, this meansvompatability is more or less impossible, right?

covert sparrow
glad oasis
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yea I already did that

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also where can I read more about what exactly the new chatbox/high performance does

covert sparrow
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I'm not aware of a list besides what's listed in #v3-help or the beta changelogs

lapis heron
kindred crown
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browser restart should fix

graceful oxide
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ayyybuLULE deadass went to Reddit for help

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we should advertise the discord more often

sacred pike
# graceful oxide we should advertise the discord more often

I mentioned once before throwing the discord link up higher on the page for visibility would help people find it so much better. maybe twitter too? in a little socials section Shrugeg I think literally the only time I scrolled down on the 7tv home page was to see if there was a discord LULE

sacred pike
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now that all new installs are v3 users might be worth changing the version number for stable on the home page

kindred crown
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new nightly later today, just addressing the common complaints

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should then be prime for full release, with much less complaining going on

frank kite
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yippie!

gentle ridge
heavy widget
nimble kelp
nimble summit
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is there a way to disable the first message highlight ?

graceful oxide
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shouldnt be enabled by default imo

nimble summit
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thanks and agreed

versed temple
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Bill Tin MegaLuL

patent pewter
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animated avatars still disabled ? docnotL

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FeelsOkayMan ๐Ÿ‘† that is so cool doc emote

sacred pike
covert sparrow
frank kite
patent pewter
wet cedar
gentle ridge
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When there is new settings there should be like a little green dot next to them kinda like ffz does imo Okayeg

safe oriole
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is true theater mode for youtube broken? I used to be able to have chat on the right, and drag to hide.

torpid niche
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Sooo with the FFZ compatability, does that mean FFZ is fully compatible now with 3.0? Or still bits an pieces like in the early builds?

torpid niche
true flower
torpid niche
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I want all my FFZ shit to work tho pepehands

hybrid verge
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FDM when you scale the emotes and push the emote spacing under 0 rem it gets kinda dank

cursive rampartBOT
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vmyk is no longer AFK: (no message) (1h, 23m ago)

true flower
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when you set emote spacing to negative

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what your saying is that you want emotes to be layed out smaller than they actually are

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so the lower negative number the more text around the emote will overlap

hybrid verge
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FDM ye didn't rlly think about that, but i've found a good size for it so it's all fine now

true flower
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the default value makes it so that emotes push out into the padding area for the message contents

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it still scales with emote size though

kindred crown
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lemme know if this version runs well for you guys

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there might be another nightly with a few more changes (mostly styling-related)

spice sleet
kindred crown
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well that's not our fault

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that's just twitch

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and also the other extensions that dirtily modify this mess of an input box

spice sleet
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wasn't happening until today, though, did something change on that end with latest update? Thonk

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seems like the lag 'begins' at the moment I press space to 'complete' a tab autocompletion

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hm, closed and re-opened tab, and doesn't seem to be happening now... LUL

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wtf :)

kindred crown
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@true flower unless thats the workaround you made to block slate stuff from the other extensions

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but i doubt it

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the twitch input is just a disaster

spice sleet
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oh yeah?

kindred crown
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yes

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if you insert emotes in the input box it lags

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that's not a 7TV thing

true flower
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i mean, it could be

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like reading in a million times

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which it does add a small overhead to every read

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which is why i didnt want to touch slate in the first place like that

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but ffz forced us to

kindred crown
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kek every little thing added to the input box is amplified by a factor of 50,000

true flower
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but it shouldnt be any worse before or after emotes were tab completed no

sacred pike
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I'm so fucking dank.... I was playing around with settings and I was like huh why doesn't the Most Used section persist between chats for a good 2 minutes before my dumbass realized maybe just maybe not everyone has the same emotes Okayeg BING RITARD MOMENT!

Otherwise everything working really well, the toggle to move the 3rd party emotes to back below the chat and let people still have the native menu they love is gonna silence a good deal of haters

spice sleet
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welp, seems to be alright again for now, that was weird...sorry if false alarm, don't want to annoy you guys with shit that isn't actually broken, I can tell y'all are working hard ๐Ÿ‘

kindred crown
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there is gonna be an attempt at making a new input box in the near term

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like, that thing is in an even worse state than the chat list

true flower
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but not caused by us

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and not neccisarilly do to tab complete

spice sleet
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I see Thonk

true flower
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but rather the native emotes themselves

spice sleet
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oh, really? fug

true flower
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its absolutely horrible

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beyond what you'd even imagine

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given the lag

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yes i love the entire area around the chatbox being reconstructed and recalculated 50 times for every keystroke

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every keystroke reparses everything before it again

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even if its already been tokenized, it destroys it and then rebuilds it

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multiple times per keystroke

spice sleet
true flower
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its so bad that literally any slight overhead you put into the chatbox will be extremely noticeable

sacred pike
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was the font changed on these or am I having a schizo moment? SCHIZO

true flower
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yeah it was

sacred pike
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alright glad I'm not losing it! I like it tho Okay

whole spruce
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will favorited emotes have priority doing :emote later on?

spice sleet
spice sleet
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yeah, this lag thing I'm experiencing, never happened before most recent version, and now I find myself needing to refresh the tab regularly to get rid of it temporarily Sadge

covert sparrow
spice sleet
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worth a shot, I guess

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didn't seem to make a difference Thonk

true flower
lapis heron
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FeelsDankMan is it possible to have smaller steps when scaling emotes?

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1.0 way too big and 0.75 way too smol

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nevermind my chat be buggin 1.0 fine now

sacred pike
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people out here like Smadge I want 3x emotes. that shit takes up literally like 25% of chat. how the fuck do ya'll watch streams AINTNOWAY

lapis heron
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I noticed a few complainers saying that the emotes for some reason were too big i dont think 'emotes are too small complainers' were the reason the behind this setting

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FeelsDankMan i thought it was a bug or something

sacred pike
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I think it happened with FFZ emotes. for some reason I remember that being mentioned before

broken glade
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w! h! v! z! commands arent working after the 7tv update

lapis heron
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FeelsDankMan I think this should be reworded to explain that moving the 7tv emote button will return the old native menu

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yeah there are no plans to implement the ffz modifiers at the moment

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Thinking dont count this as a confirmation but a free alternative for all chatters to use modifiers would be a good addition

gentle ridge
broken glade
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sadge

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i thought these were bttv modifiers

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not ffz

lapis heron
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FeelsDankMan are they?

broken glade
lapis heron
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either way no plans to support ffz or bttv ones

broken glade
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damn sadge

covert sparrow
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neither LULE

narrow wind
lapis heron
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Okey IF modifiers are supported, they'll be free and not behind paywall

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7emao modifiers should be available for all users

spice sleet
# true flower could you test this with no extensions enabled

trying things out borpaNodders on that note, though, any particular reason that when autocompleting a bttv emote, there's no 'white brace thing pointing down' at the emote while it's selected, and also when you press space, the text isn't replaced by the emote in the input box?

Can try to give visual aid if explanation is lacking LUL

true flower
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and cause inexplicable errors

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that cause tab complete to stop working entirely

spice sleet
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ah Thonk

true flower
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and occasionally the slate chat to crash, even with 7tv not enabled

spice sleet
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so, preliminary result is that even with only 4 extensions enabled including 7tv (the others being bitwarden, group speed dial, and sidebery--without those on the browser is a lot harder to use overall lole), that lag issue still seems to be creeping up Thonk

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refreshing the tab brings the lag back to zero, but then it starts creeping up again as I do stuff in chat...haven't tested to see if it does with me only watching and not doing anything in chat, though

sacred pike
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not sure if the feedback helps at all but I'm also a bitwarden user and I am NOT having these issues. I am however on chrome FeelsDankMan

spice sleet
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yeah, I'm pretty doubtful about any of these 3 being the culprit...can't shake the fact that I've had zero issue along these lines before updating the extension today, and I've been on the beta ever since the version where it was announced it reached feature parity with v2...is there a way to revert to the nightly version right before the current one, so I can test that way?

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wait, I forgot you can freely install old versions on the firefox addon page lole

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I'm going to try

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damn, took a lot of attempts to get Firefox to stop insta-updating the old version install to the newest version OMEGALUL

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yeah, so far it's night and day, went back to normal instantly upon reverting to 3.0.0.19800 ...something happened in this latest version Thonk

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thinking about what's changed between those two versions...maybe it's got something to do with the implementation of the 'most used emotes' thing that was added?

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yeah, deliberately autocompleting various emotes back to back in the chat is not causing lag to start creeping up, but reliably did so on the newest version...I'm trying to get it to happen and it's not happening on 3.0.0.19800

lapis heron
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ApuThink there appears to be a favourite emote option and appearently that page is supposed to also have most frequent emotes

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it seems buggy though

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cant favourite sub emotes

spice sleet
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I have a feeling that category of features is where my issue is coming from, too Thinkge

spice sleet
shadow crystal
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I'm experiencing the same issue about chat lagging while writing, only with an F5 it fixes it for a bit. Using firefox with like 2 extension active (disabled on twitch page)

lavish hedge
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Anyone know why this is happening these are all gifted subs but it goes blank and doesnt show the text?

patent phoenix
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I get similiar usually when entering chat. The first new message after the chat history has been played is blank.

hasty flint
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btw the raspberry paint issue seems to be fixed for me in latest version, nice

patent pewter
hasty flint
covert sparrow
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prob just was fucked in the older vers

patent pewter
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holy. never happened to me though. WutFace

small current
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im using the 7tv beta but my name color on the chat never changed is there a way to fix it ?

graceful oxide
hasty flint
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thought it was that paint

true flower
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including after a refresh

lavish hedge
true flower
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could you screenshot your compatibility page

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-> settings -> check compatability

stuck vortex
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tab completion is still broken for me, though maybe this isn't the same issue the changelog mentioned fixing. (i have FFZ enabled)

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In this clip I keep mashing tab in that whole video. It encounters lacSit and decides to place the emote instead of continuing to tab through more emotes

true flower
lavish hedge
stuck vortex
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Yeah I'm on nightly

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Also using Firefox

stuck vortex
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I suppose I didn't explain and I should. I keep mashing tab in that whole video. It encounters lacSit and decides to place the emote instead of continuing to tab through more emotes

graceful oxide
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cause its a sub emote

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and they automatically render in the input box

stuck vortex
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not all sub emotes do this though

covert sparrow
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might be a conflict with ffz then Shrug

stuck vortex
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I think I figured it out

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That emote is both a sub emote and it's also in BTTV under an identical name

covert sparrow
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weird

stuck vortex
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I guess that's breaking the tab logic somehow

covert sparrow
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COPIUM the textbox will get rewritten soon

true flower
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thats definately it

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@kindred crown new bug

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can be fixed

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just needs tweaking to the tab logic

kindred crown
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bruh moment

true flower
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it needs to prio twitch emotes

kindred crown
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3.0.2 it is

true flower
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the reason this is happening is because getMatches is returning that its not a twitch emote

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because it hits the bttv token first

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telling the tab completer its ok to put a space

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but twitch is completing the sub token

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because of the space

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this would have been the issue for ffz as well

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our patch was still correct though

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one of those dual issue bugs

feral dust
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when im using the beta my streams are always lagging - anyone got the same problem?

kindred crown
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are you using a password manager extension? if so, which?

feral dust
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i dont

kindred crown
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can you screenshot the compat tab

feral dust
kindred crown
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could you do the general catch-all "only 7TV enabled" and see if it still lags

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also, make sure you dont have the 7TV website loaded

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due to the volume of images and a bug with chrome's hardware acceleration, our site can actually cause other tabs to stall out due to running out of threads (or something of sorts)

kindred crown
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i meant that as in disable all other extensions

feral dust
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ah okay

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wait a sec

feral dust
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if i tab in again on my stream tab it works perfectly fine

kindred crown
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yeah thats probably it, we submitted a bug on chromium's tracker a while ago but it still hasnt been fixed afaik

feral dust
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alright thank you i will check if something changes

spice sleet
spice sleet
true flower
spice sleet
true flower
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you can load it as a debug addon

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about:addons -> disable 7tv/nightly

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about:debugging#/runtime/this-firefox -> load temporary addon

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it will uninstall itself if you restart firefox

spice sleet
true flower
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yeah

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NODDERS

spice sleet
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appeared right after loading it up

true flower
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yeah thats ok

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it should still work fine

spice sleet
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okay, so you're looking to know if the lag issue creeps up on this build, right?

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will probably take me a little bit to determine, since it's gradual

true flower
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yeah

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I was never actually able to reproduce it

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but this should fix it, hopefully

spice sleet
# true flower but this should fix it, hopefully

sorry, but I see it still starting to happen. Sadge Confirmed by reloading the tab and having it be instant again. You start noticing delays when you 'confirm' a tab autocomplete, when you type, and when you backspace an emote away

covert sparrow
spice sleet
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I know part of it is that I'm very sensitive to latency in general lole, but it's at the point where I was able to deduce that the addon had auto-updated to latest version without me realizing, by noticing the symptom happening

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My educated guess is that it's related in some way to the added functionality of either setting favorite emotes, and/or tracking most used emotes

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If it helps, the main way I identify that it's happening, is by simply adding LUL to the input box, hitting space to place the emote itself in there, hitting backspace once to get rid of the space, then hitting backspace one more time to delete the emote, taking note of if there's any noticeable delay between me striking the key the second time, and the emote disappearing

covert sparrow
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are you using any other extensions? Susge

spice sleet
covert sparrow
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No other twitch extensions?

spice sleet
covert sparrow
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damn

shadow crystal
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I'm trying also this, and for now it seems not fix the issue, also if i spam random type into input chatbox also stream starts to lag

true flower
shadow crystal
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But ublock and dark reader are not enabled on twitch

true crag
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Hi, is there any chance we can have the clips miniature on the chat?

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oh nvm

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i saw the suggestions

spice sleet
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kinda random question...does anyone know if it's possible to install an extension (namely 7TV) on the browser extension OBS uses for its chat dock window? Thonk

graceful oxide
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PagStick amazing animation

gentle ridge
wet cedar
spice sleet
wet cedar
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I think the only way to do that would be to pop the chat out from the browser and just letting it hover over the chat dock in OBS

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I just tested it and it carries over to the pop-out

spice sleet
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I remember having to mess with userchrome.css just so that Firefox would allow me to decrease the width of the window enough LUL

kindred crown
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first you complain about there being animation, then you complain about there not being one

narrow wind
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tf I believe that is sarcasm

narrow wind
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I think I have noticed this but I didn't know what was going on

true flower
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threads dont work like this

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there is no concept of a thread internally on twitch

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just a parent message, if a parent message has a parent message of its own the parent is automatically set to the first parent

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then "threads" are actually just any messages that share a single parent

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twitch handles this on tmi

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if you send a reply to any message that is itself a reply its just set to the same message as the first

frank kite
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peepoTalk ๐Ÿ“ฃ

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very interesting tho

true flower
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lipton

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i will change your name

frank kite
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PepeA sorry sir

true flower
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yeah its a slightly lazy implementation

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on twitch's side

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but it does get rid of a lot of complexity, it makes sense why its done this way

frank kite
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classic twitch

true flower
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there is no tracking of chains of replies

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just stateless data that can be patched in at the time of retrieval

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and quickly indexed clientside

frank kite
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i always thought it was only on one reply too ngl

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the more you know i guess

true flower
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yeah its the reason that people used to look like they @still swallow themselves

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on chatterino

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if someone replied to you

frank kite
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OH YEAH

gentle ridge
true flower
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and you replied to their reply

frank kite
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OMEGALUL thats funny

true flower
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your reply is set to be parented to your own message

true flower
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which only can display correctly if your looking at a thread preview

narrow wind
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still, it needs to be fixed

true flower
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well, it cant be fixed, is the thing

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thats the downside

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to the way they designed it

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there is no such thing as the "last message" of a thread

narrow wind
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I don't care if it CAN be fixed. It NEEDS to be fixed.

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MAKE IT HAPPEN!

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I got made fun of by a FFZ user Sadeg

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because of how my reply looked to them

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also it would be absolutely bussin if the chat log could be used so that you could see a user's recent message when you click their name, like how channel moderators can see all their messages

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it would be fun for users to have an easy way to see that in a similar way

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(like you can do with chatterino)

kindred crown
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yeah thats been high on my list

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the twitch user card is shit

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loads very slowly

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ill remake it

graceful oxide
patent pewter
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Hereโ€™s a question. Iโ€™m using a Kiwi browser on android itโ€™s based on chrome. Developer mode is enabled and all extensions for desktop browser are available to install. Iโ€™ve had 7tv v2 on it for a year. For some reason v3 doesnโ€™t even show up when installed. Any ideas?

random egret
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hmm, did the latest release break auto completion via : in chat for subscriber emotes on firefox?

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clearing cache also didnt fix it this time Hmm

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autocompletion for 7tv,bttv and ffz emotes work

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tab autocompletion still works

true flower
still swallow
#

no Okay

true flower
#

OkayChamp you will change your name right now

still swallow
sacred pike
#

forsenMaxLevel ๐ŸŒฉ๏ธ

#

NOW

ocean void
#

Add the ffz feature to remove unwanted badges from chat so i can continue to ignore the existence of VIPs

sonic magnet
#

yes based feature idea

ocean void
#

Please add, mr anal toe

patent pewter
#

gifted subs incident Aware

random egret
wet cedar
#

So if X redeemed it, it'd change my username to theirs. Y would redeem it, then it'd change to Y. and any time someone @'d me it'd reflect that replacement

verbal atlas
true flower
#

I'm assuming all of you have ffz installed?

wet cedar
#

I do, but I'd never seen that happen before

lavish hedge
#

Can confirm it is a FFZ problem again Aware

true flower
#

can you check in your console

#

if the line [7TV] [INFO] <FFZ-Compat> FrankerFaceZ detectedโ€”patching for compatibility. woof

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is present

#

if it is, then this is a ffz issue, and not something that we can fix

versed temple
#

woof

patent pewter
#

xqcC FBBlock ffz

true crag
#

Ok I uninstalled

#

I can't live without the clips thumbnail

kindred crown
#

who asked?

lavish hedge
#

Thinkge Hmm

sacred pike
patent pewter
#

any news ? Copege

sacred pike
#

no google is cucking currently

kindred crown
#

3.0.1 will go live tonight, will be monitoring for this performance issue some people are experiencing

#

Hopefully 3.0.2 will get instant approval now that google surely must've went through and greenlit everything

ocean void
wraith bay
#

anatole

#

you did well

#

i like it

quick basin
#

Hello

dire beacon
#

Hello, an update in the beta test?

quick basin
#

nvm its the discussion stuff

dire beacon
#

I was not given the color of the beta test

graceful oxide
#

The beta ended at least a week ago

#

You canโ€™t get the beta paint anymore

dire beacon
#

oh, okay, I'm sorry, it's just that some viewers did not update 7tv on the broadcast, so I thought that a beta test was given

#

thanks for the information

covert sparrow
graceful oxide
#

time flies

green thistle
#

i have custom colors, but mentioned color is still on red

green thistle
#

or it must be on red when someone mentioned my nickname?

high geode
#

@kindred crown im sorry for tagging, but this is a big issue: The lag thing which happens, is there any info why it happens on the nightly version?

#

It doesnt happen on 3.0.0 but on nightly it does

#

I switched away from Nightly to 3.0.0 cuz it was unusable for me. Id love to stick with nightly tho, ty and gl

lapis heron
#

They found the issue and fixed it but and the next patch 3.0.2 should have it

high geode
#

o, ty. A update would be nice in the bug thread, but ty hachuL

wheat tangle
#

Firefox hasn't updated the extension yet ๐Ÿ’€

lapis heron
#

3.0.2 is not out btw I'm just saying the next patch will have it sadE

wheat tangle
#

I mean Firefox is still running 3.0.0 not 3.0.1

sacred pike
#

Smadge goddamn furry browser

true flower
#

they denied our extension

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and removed it from the store

#

the reasoning they gave, and the build logs though

#

were from a completely different extension

#

they reviewed someone elses code and then rejected ours

wheat tangle
#

xD

lapis heron
#

TrollDespair you telling me you decided to fully roll out v3 while firefox still hasn't approved 3.0.1

ancient cobalt
#

my settings tab seems to be bugged

#

the buttons dont scroll with the settings

lapis heron
#

FeelsDonkMan First time seeing this reported. What browser and another other extensions are installed?

ancient cobalt
#

brave and kind of a lot

lapis heron
#

umm maybe just the ones affecting twitch?

ancient cobalt
#

the only conflicting one in the compatibility check was nordpass

#

and the only other twitch one is BTTV

lapis heron
#

Could you care to try disabling one after the other to see if it fixed it? Could help us fix it in the future if we know exactly what causes it

ancient cobalt
#

for sure

daring gulch
# ancient cobalt

NordVPN has been hacked plenty of times... I recommend to never save ur passowords any other place than a IRL notebook

ancient cobalt
#

i disabled both of those and the bug is still there

ancient cobalt
lapis heron
#

Hmm very strange. I guess we'll just note it down as a brave bug for now. If you're bothered to disable any or all other extensions except for 7tv then we'd appreciate the data.

ancient cobalt
#

ill try that too

lapis heron
ancient cobalt
lapis heron
#

peepoSit thank you

ancient cobalt
#

btw pls add support for Kick whenever possible, no matter how controversial it might be we really need emotes Prayge

#

you guys do great work

versed temple
ancient cobalt
#

oh ok sick, thank you guys!

idle flare
#

not sure if it has already been addressed. but since i updated to the Beta. when i'm typing in chat. there is a noticeable lag. the lag doesnt happen anywhere else besides twitch

gentle ridge
#

Hopefully fixed in 3.0.2

idle flare
#

Thank you!

hardy oriole
#

yo how tf do i disable that shit

#

u block and show stars over swear words now?

#

wtf are we 12?

#

this happend after the update

#

dafq is this

#

how do i fix it?

covert sparrow
#

huh

versed temple
#

it is literally twitch's native filter, not 7tv stuff

covert sparrow
#

New to me LULE

hardy oriole
#

why did that auto turn on after update?

#

wow

#

thanks tho

#

fixed it โค๏ธ

covert sparrow
hardy oriole
#

iam using twitch for 6 years now with this off

#

never turned it on

covert sparrow
#

Were you using other twitch extensions prior

hardy oriole
#

and iam watching big streamers like xqc and such so i would've noticed

hardy oriole
covert sparrow
#

bttv probably had it disabled on their end by default

hardy oriole
#

it was off for years iit just turned on after this update

covert sparrow
#

this aim of this update was to be as close as possible to twitch's native chatbox while focusing heavily on performance

#

so the entire chatbox was rewritten and took priority over bttv

covert sparrow
#

hence why it took your native settings

#

idk when it was added onto twitch but that's likely the reasoning

hardy oriole
#

aha thats awesome news been waiting for something like this tbh

#

ahh all g ๐Ÿ™‚

covert sparrow
hardy oriole
#

thanks for helping xQcL

#

i was losing it forsenPossessed

covert sparrow
#

thanks @versed temple

tiny yacht
#

So many more bug reports coming in now that V3 is live

frank kite
mild kernel
#

might be a dumb question but why is it still showing me the beta paint and no badge when on the 7tv site i have a colour and a badge selected? Hmm

heavy widget
mild kernel
#

i am a sub LULW

heavy widget
mild kernel
#

cause ive had a name change, my old name was turtlehuh

heavy widget
#

so there's 2 accounts on 7tv now. one for the old name, one for the new name. there's a way to get that sorted for sure, but idk. you could ask in #help-old to get a faster answer.

hybrid verge
#

I think baldman has explained this 100 times LULE

gentle ridge
#

I believe all you have to do is sign out and back in on the site (DO NOT UNLINK YOUR ACCOUNT)

hybrid verge
#

^

heavy widget
ruby yarrow
#

no mod slider?

#

need to disable 7TV in order for it to work

#

how can I revert to previous version?

gentle ridge
ruby yarrow
#

yeah that doesnt work

#

and I cant connect to chat in mod view

gentle ridge
#

What other extensions do you have

ruby yarrow
#

betterttv frankerz and 7tv

gentle ridge
#

You dont need all 3

#

Thats just asking for problems

ruby yarrow
#

they all worked before 7tv update

gentle ridge
ruby yarrow
#

wont connect

#

normal view works

#

disabling VPN worked

gentle ridge
ruby yarrow
#

when I right click a name in chat I get

#

edge chromium\

#

I'll try disabling other extensions and get back to you

gentle ridge
#

There is no implemented right click menu atm

ocean void
#

Using a vpn with twitch has been a bit broken recently, nothing to do with 7tv

#

You can't even login if you're using a vpn

ruby yarrow
#

works fine for me

#

NordVPN

ocean void
#

And sometimes using a vpn will make it so you can't vote in polls, predictions, block, DM, or even claim drops

#

It's so dogshit

ruby yarrow
#

never had any issues at all with vpn

#

only thing I see is

#

If I click on someone I get this menu on the side

#

dunno if thats twitch or 7tv

heavy widget
ruby yarrow
#

ok

#

yeah this beta is completely broken

#

unfortunate

covert sparrow
#

not really broken

#

just missing a few features

ruby yarrow
#

yeah I suppose it's the new chat overhaul

#

great extension tho love it thx for the help

covert sparrow
#

๐Ÿ‘

strong charm
#

Can i ask if someone can sign in through 7TV in twitch settings ? I've been trying to log in for a few weeks but it still doesn't work

strong charm
#

yea exactly

ebon wing
#

do you have an error popping when trying to connect ?

strong charm
#

no, there is no errors

#

just nothing happening

ebon wing
#

can you connect to the 7tv website ?

strong charm
#

yes

ebon wing
#

maybe you can check inspect element -> console LemmeThink

strong charm
#

everything seems to be ok, I try to uninstall and download the browser

#

I re-downloaded everything but now I can't even see the name badge and color, it's like I don't have the subscription

ebon wing
#

yeah yeah, it seems bugged atm

#

i can see badge but can't see my paint elisSit

strong charm
#

mhh okok i just wait

hasty flint
#

maybe disabled third-party cookies are causing issues with the login? it doesn't work for me either but it's not like it does anything rn iirc

analog snow
#

Is the beta (7tv nightly) still different to the normal 7tv? Or has normal 7tv updated to include the features already?
(And where do I put bug reports, here or on the normal bugs section?)

snow zealot
analog snow
#

I'm chrome, so yeah I expect they are the same. But I will use this section in case nightly is a few sub-versions ahead

snow zealot
#

check #help-old a lot of issues have been reported already and are being worked on

kindred crown
#

new nightly for input lag coming up

sacred pike
covert sparrow
kindred crown
#

im gonna work on a way to have immediate updates (without needing review from incompetent google/mozilla reviewers)

#

after this patch is out

#

aka the extension will download the code from our servers

covert sparrow
kindred crown
#

this is what ffz does, i imagined it wasnt gonna be an issue since so far we were getting approved within the hour

#

but well, was wrong

#

reviewer interns have 0 iq

sacred pike
#

after the firefox blunder I don't blame ya one bit LULE

kindred crown
#

need to know from those who had issues with input lag

#

if it's fixed now

shadow crystal
#

I just updated, i'll try today and tomorrow and let you know

wet cedar
#

holy based

fossil path
kindred crown
#

aight

#

due to time constraints with the risk of long review times this will probably go live tonight (with a number of other changes/requested additions)

#

we have to do a little trolling soon so thats being included too Tomfoolery

covert sparrow
ebon wing
covert sparrow
kindred crown
broken vine
#

i had the issue, trying to update but it's just stuck on the downloading thing FeelsDankMan

broken vine
#

yeah

#

apologies if this has been discussed, was looking around for others getting stuck on downloading but couldn't see anything

snow zealot
#

update on firefox is not working atm

broken vine
#

gotcha, is the best thing just to uninstall & reinstall nightly?

snow zealot
broken vine
#

hm

#

i've had nightly this whole time

snow zealot
#

on firefox I'm pretty sure you need to update manually since there was an issue with the update thing on the extension

true flower
#

you can update by going to your addons

#

and then check for updates

broken vine
#

NOTED i see

#

reinstalling rn

kindred crown
#

this is literally 1984 to an extension

#

it cant update itself

broken vine
#

no more input delay

kindred crown
#

PagBounce [the pag has seen something amazing and proceeded to bounce]

covert sparrow
patent pewter
sturdy agate
#

anyone not seeing any badges in chat (mod vip subs) after the update? only one that appears is the 7tv sub one OMEGA

true flower
#

Debugging -> Chat -> Chat Processing

#

FFZ is stripping away some information about messages before we receive them

#

chat processing is supposed to be disabled by default, however somethings gone wrong either on our or ffz's side where this request is not being respected in some situations

sturdy agate
#

ohh okay, think i'll just disable ffz till it's fixed since 7tv shows everything anyway. thank you!

tiny yacht
#

So far so good on the input lag fix

gentle ridge
#

Pretty smooth so far Okay

cursive rampartBOT
#

emotefroggy finished their beauty sleep: forsenInsane ๐Ÿ’ค (10h, 11m ago)

ocean void
#

Can confirm the new beta DOES fix the laggy ass chatbox

#

Emote spam HYPERS

steady dagger
shadow crystal
#

For now no more input lag, so i guess it's everything fixed peepoHappy

blazing flint
#

how to get this color

gentle ridge
blazing flint
gentle ridge
#

v3 is out now

#

That paint was only for beta testers

covert sparrow
#

last day it was available was 3/9

gentle ridge
#

It ended on the 9th i believe

blazing flint
#

ohh okay ty

fossil path
#

Input lag issue is gone for me as well

#

the threads also seem to work correctly now, but is it intentional that you cant reply to deleted messages anymore? Pretty sure it was possible before

gentle ridge
fossil path
#

tested it in another chat now, it's working

for some reason it doesn't work if you delete your own message and then try to reply to it

covert sparrow
stray tangle
covert sparrow
gentle ridge
#

Same PagStick

covert sparrow
#

PagStick every paint that has been released prior too

stray tangle
#

nice nice

stray tangle
#

how can you see new beta features xd i never really was looking forward in beta etc

covert sparrow
#

uhhh there's a big list on Twitter holdup

#

also just look at changelogs in #news

stray tangle
#

oh thanks lol

snow zealot
cedar forge
#

Im still experiencing lag after a while in the chat, anyone else? Susge

cedar forge
#

latest

#

nightly

gentle ridge
#

Nightly has been running smooth for everyone

snow zealot
cedar forge
gentle ridge
#

Weird

snow zealot
#

what are your setting in the chat > performance tab? @cedar forge

cedar forge
#

Now i've refreshed the page and its fixed, i'll see if happen again

#

50 ms , 0 ms , 150 lines

snow zealot
#

Should be fine, hopefully after that refresh it won't happen anymore

gentle ridge
#

Wait you're on 50ms message batching?

covert sparrow
#

day 1 sub EZ

cedar forge
gentle ridge
#

BRO omE

gentle ridge
#

The twitch default is 425ms

#

That could be your problem

covert sparrow
#

isn't it 450 Hmm

snow zealot
gentle ridge
#

Oh wait yeah 450

#

Try making it higher and see if you're still having problems

cedar forge
gentle ridge
#

Yeah having it on 50 sounds like a disaster

indigo osprey
#

performance issues are still there and it happens everytime i open the emote menu(which is laggy as fuck btw)

covert sparrow
#

^ on Firefox

high geode
#

I dont understand the Compatibility check

#

all greyed out

#

what does it mean

true flower
#

nothing

#

it means there are no issues to note

#

extensions with known issues are highlighted, and their issues described

cedar forge
cedar forge
gentle ridge
#

I saw someone else saying they are having a similar problem too

wheat tangle
#

This is normal I guess, isn't it? When replying in a thread where I am the one who started it, make the mention sound

ancient cobalt
ancient cobalt
sturdy agate
true flower
#

sometimes twitch emotes take a bit to load, but the menu doesnt autorefresh once that happens

sacred pike
sacred pike
#

if I open and close the menu it fixes it completely. just gotta not have that juicer ADHD andy react time omE

#

ppOverheat I NEED EMOTE NOW

narrow wind
#

Ideally it would display a loading icon (like LOADING or something I make) if the menu is opened before stuff is ready. Then also ideally it would load the emotes once itโ€™s ready, rather than requiring it to be closed an reopened

shadow crystal
#

I noticed that when someone reply in a thread it works like before the latest update (that i preferred), and if i reply to a thread it works like the native chat of Twitch. idk if i explained it well, i hope so ahaha

#

not always, some times

high geode
glad oasis
#

I dont like how pinned messages now dont show the name of the person who sent the message

#

it just shows the mod who pinned it and the message itself

glad oasis
#

depends on if the thing is extended or not

#

the first time I pinned it was not automatically extended

#

the second time I tried it it was

hybrid verge
#

i just tested in the native twitch chat and it does the exact same thing eShrug

glad oasis
#

I swear it was different before 3.0

covert sparrow
#

probably changed via another extension kek

true flower
#

it was different when twitch way back added the feature

#

but that was almost useless anyways since it 90% of the time just showed the username and cut off the actual important part

lavish hedge
true flower
#

just happens with ffz

#

if you've got inline previews disabled

#

the setting is a lil scuffed

#

we dont change it anymore and dont patch out the tokens, but if you have old leftover settings

#

then it might still be scuffed

#

make sure you dont have a profile named "7TV Persistant"

#

if you do delete it

#

and then refresh

lavish hedge
#

where do i check that?

true flower
#

FFZ settings -> Top left click profiles

#

then manage

#

then if theres a profile there called 7TV persistent

#

hit edit

#

and delete in the top right

#

@lavish hedge

lavish hedge
#

ok

unborn tide
#

new 7tv is broken beyond belief. Is there a way to return it to previous version?

gentle ridge
#

no, 3.0.2 coming soonโ„ข๏ธ

unborn tide
#

will they fix it?

gentle ridge
#

you can use nightly in the meantime if you want

unborn tide
#

I want my 7tv fixed

#

am I asking too much?

versed temple
#

Welp if you can list what is broken
Maybe the devs can work on it

unborn tide
#

are people blind?

true flower
#

ReallyMad How dare you not know exactly what I'm talking about in my head

wet cedar
#

Madeg ANALTALL Madeg FIX EXTENCHIN Madeg I NOT TELL YOU WHAT FIX, JUST FIX Madeg

true flower
#

ReallyMad Are you just blind where's you're telekenesis

versed temple
#

@true flower fix their problem NOW ReallyMad

true flower
#

No I won't tell you whats wrong, its just totally broken, and it is, that's all there is to it

#

Everyone must not have eyes because they don't see how broken it is Madge

versed temple
#

while u're at it, can you fix cancer mr. dev?

narrow wind
#

Nightly works fine for me

unborn tide
#

it's kinda weird I have to say

#

like it's some sort of cult and people can't see the problems

wet cedar
#

Bedge this bit sucks

versed temple
#

you realise everyone does not have the same setup
extension works on some and doesnt work on others

#

so you not providing any details does not help with anything

wet cedar
#

I'm p sure they're baiting now Pepegi

narrow wind
#

One thing a lot of people have trouble with is they become dependant on various features from FFZ. The new extension works differently than the old version in that it doesn't merely enable the 7TV addon in FFZ, so they just assume things are broken.

unborn tide
#

subs don't show in chat, replies have 50% chance of not apperaing when you click on the msg, subs don't show what channel their from (maybe there's setting for that), deleted msges have line through and i can't remove it

wet cedar
#

finally

unborn tide
#

i'll get back to you for more

wet cedar
#

actual answers kek

gentle ridge
#

Did you not bother reading the link I sent you

wet cedar
unborn tide
#

i'm in the wrong channel I'm talking about 7tv not nightly

narrow wind
#

subs show up in nightly

unborn tide
#

sry for that

gentle ridge
#

nightly is 7tv

narrow wind
#

Google is stalling on approving the update to the "main" version

#

But nightly is up to date

wet cedar
unborn tide
#

what is nightly like experimental?

narrow wind
#

No

#

it's just the current build

wet cedar
#

^

gentle ridge
narrow wind
#

Right now at least

#

it has all the bug fixes

versed temple
#

Nightly is the pre-release of the live version

unborn tide
#

idk i'm not using nightly i'm using 7tv i'm in the wrong channel

narrow wind
#

The devs can't do anything to fix the main version because Google is stalling

wet cedar
#

oh my god

narrow wind
#

Google approves the nightly version immediately though

gentle ridge
wet cedar
#

this bit is so fucking bad

#

๐Ÿ…

narrow wind
#

INSTALL NIGHTLY DUDE

#

DISABLE THE MAIN ONE FOR NOW

#

ez

unborn tide
#

im asking here if it has any plans to get fixed

wet cedar
#

nah they're just being intentionally dumb as fuck lmao

unborn tide
#

maybe

versed temple
#

are people blind?

unborn tide
#

i had to explain the obvious issues

gentle ridge
narrow wind
#

and more coming every day

unborn tide
#

so they will get fixed on main one?

narrow wind
#

Eventually

#

Google is the problem

wet cedar
#

just install Nightly holy shit pepegaSitty

unborn tide
#

im not installing 30 different 7tvs

narrow wind
#

2 = 30

frank kite
#

since when were there 30 7tvs?

narrow wind
#

LIterally least intelligent dgg member LULE

frank kite
#

theres 7 tvs

versed temple
#

210 tvs AINTNOWAY

frank kite
unborn tide
#

i don't go to destinys im pureply for the culture

narrow wind
#

๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿค™ DGG4LYFE

unborn tide
#

just fix the app that's all I'm here for

gentle ridge
narrow wind
#

Install nightly

frank kite
#

you know everything you are talking about is getting fixed

#

theres a thing called time you know?

narrow wind
#

Most of the fixes are being stalled by Google

frank kite
#

i dont think youve heard of that

unborn tide
#

thats why i came here to ask

#

ok ok

frank kite
#

just install nightly

#

boom

#

remove the stable version

wet cedar
#

^

narrow wind
#

Or disable

frank kite
#

and install the nightly

wet cedar
#

getting things early > getting things later

unborn tide
#

remove the stable version lmao

wet cedar
#

Nightly > day-ly

frank kite
#

dogNerd disable!!

narrow wind
#

It's not actually "stable" though

frank kite
#

yeah FUCK YOU anson

unborn tide
#

k tnx guys peace

narrow wind
#

yw

frank kite
narrow wind
#

(probably watches Hasan more than Destiny) forsenLaughingAtYou

covert sparrow
#

jesus what did I just read ICANT

snow zealot
#

People can just be so dumb, either that or just a child.

#

ApuThink nah probably both

sacred pike
#

what a fucking retard LULE

true flower
#

Clueless what do you mean all my issues I listed are fixed on nightly

#

Heh yeah right, not gonna install it how about that

#

Sure got you didn't I, now what are you gonna do

kindred crown
#

lucky for him, that version is out now FeelsStrongMan

true flower
#

FeelsStrongMan lil bro probably won't ever refresh his twitch page then

#

NO I WILL NOT UPDATE HOW WILL I BE MAD THEN

sacred pike
ocean void
narrow wind
#

It's buried in a folder though. Not one of the servers I actually visit.

ocean void
#

Once a DGGer, always a DGGer

narrow wind
ocean void
patent pewter
#

paints and badges take ages to load. randomly disappearing or appearing in wrong order.

unborn tide
#

do tell

#

damn addon got even more broken with the chatter badges disappearing

#

I trust this is getting fixed

ocean void
#

Only like 75% of users will be able to use it at once until there is a fix for it next week

stuck vortex
#

is the way to disable 7tv on youtube by opening the onboarding again and toggling it off there? doing so doesnt seem to actually work though

sacred pike
#

right now 7TV doesnt work on YT. google hasnt approved oauth for them so things are kinda stuck ded

sacred pike
stuck vortex
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Hm. I thought it was causing issues with tagging people in youtube chat, maybe it's another extension I have causing it. It coincidentally started the day the v3 update got pushed out to my Chrome

ocean void
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I dont think any of 7tv affects youtube

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And it hasnt for a very long time

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That has always been a coming soon โ„ข๏ธ feature for as long as I've used 7tv LULE

stuck vortex
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It definitely had several youtube features in v2

ocean void
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Like what?

stuck vortex
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It also seems to still at least add 7TV global emotes to the chat

ocean void
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I never got my fucking animated avatar

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And thats literally ALL that matters

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I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR ANIMATED YOUTUBE AVATARS FOR 12 MONTHS

stuck vortex
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it had emote support for channels, global emotes, a better theater mode, i think maybe a few other tiny things I can't remember at the moment

ocean void
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Bruh

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Emote support for youtube

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Cant be a feature if no one uses it

stuck vortex
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yeah i know youtube chat is complete garbage but yeah those worked

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The global emotes do work in v3 right now though, just tested

sacred pike
stuck vortex
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interesting

patent pewter
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i totally uninstalled ffz and bttv and things are working for me now. only ffz badges won't show up anymore. 7tv features and chat are Okay

sacred pike
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FFZ custom mod/vip badges are planned to be supported in the future.. I made a few of the mod/vip badges for communities I'm in and its cool seeing them in the chat.

patent pewter
patent pewter
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BTW using the latest nightly.

plucky ibex
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7tv + better TV seems to break channel Points not able to redeem any or claim channel points bonus with both installed. I have no need for better tv anymore as 7tv has added the features I used it for now. Just a FYI

kindred crown
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ty for the info Okayeg will check

patent pewter
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emote sounds are WAYTOODANK !

narrow wind
spice sleet
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...this is an April Fool's thing, isn't it? LUL

gentle ridge
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no

frank kite
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no?

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are you okay?

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you might be hearing things...

spice sleet
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ok my bad SCHIZO