beta-discussion

[true flower]

it opts to show the emote description

instead of more icons

in the empty space

[kindred crown]

[ebon wing]

this ?

[true flower]

oh is there an option for that?

mine doesnt do that

it just shows in one bar

that slides over to the next

when you hit tab

that seems kinda pointless

ngl

[ebon wing]

i was trying to make it work but it wasnt working so i checked all the boxes

[true flower]

its just exactly like the :

[ebon wing]

it seems like there is a conflict with 7tv for this addon

[true flower]

would expect there to be

[ebon wing]

this one i guess

in the add-on option

[true flower]

we absorb the key press event

when tab completing

[graceful oxide]

anyway you should let users choose the emote suggestion menu

dont get rid of the classic one completely

[kindred crown]

wdym

[ebon wing]

yeah a setting should exist for that
but yeah i prefer anatole's solution because it shows more emotes so you have a better view of what you wanna tab and you can click them
and the multiple option with the add-on takes too much space yeah

[wind sapphire]

giving both options would be great

[kindred crown]

wdym by "both options"?

[wind sapphire]

i quite like the carousel cause it wont hide as much of chat if you wanna know whats happening as you type

oh uh

[kindred crown]

nothing has been removed, the carousel is just a visualization

[wind sapphire]

the normal emote popup and carousel

[kindred crown]

what normal emote popup?

[graceful oxide]

dank and danker

this

[wind sapphire]

yes that

[ebon wing]

yeah but that's with colon

[kindred crown]

thats colon completion

[ebon wing]

it's tab completion

[kindred crown]

the carousel only applies to tab completion

i think ive said this a few times now

[graceful oxide]

fuck your tab completion

colon is superior

[wind sapphire]

im just saying i think both options are good to have and should be included

yea i almost exclusively do colon

[kindred crown]

oh do you mean you'd want an option to have the carousel in colon complete?

[graceful oxide]

yes

as an "option"

let users choose everything

[kindred crown]

oh ok

[wind sapphire]

yea being able to choose basically anything and everything really

like as much as possible should be toggleable imo

i think thats why users like ffz a lot

[kindred crown]

have you seen the new settings menu

[wind sapphire]

not since like yesterday

[kindred crown]

im just wondering what part isn't toggeable

so far anything that the extension adds, theres an option tied to it

[wind sapphire]

u should be able to toggle carousel too is what im saying

[wind sapphire]

yea

[kindred crown]

i just noticed theres a typo

xd

[wind sapphire]

lol!!!!!

[kindred crown]

i am a professional

[graceful oxide]

autocompleter forsenga

[wind sapphire]

anatoler

[kindred crown]

saffer

[tardy grotto]

HOLYY

[ocean void]

no notification volume slider in 15

But pog for readable colors

[high geode]

Reboot

[ocean void]

probleme

[covert sparrow]

a separate preview comes up for twitch sub emotes when carousel

[kindred crown]

thats twitch

[covert sparrow]

custom textbox soon

[kindred crown]

maybe would be there by now if @true flower had made a single pull request since september of 2022

[hybrid verge]

cum guy

[kindred crown]

ah ofc carousel doesnt work in theater mode

goddamn twitch and their janky stylesheets

[hybrid verge]

[ocean void]

fuckin cum guy

busy watching cyr

instead of comitting

[covert sparrow]

cosmetic cum guy

[true flower]

neurons replaced with sperm

[hybrid verge]

[graceful oxide]

that looks so dank

[heavy widget]

First tab only shows 1 emote, is it intended? More suggestions appearing after at least 2 tabs.

Some words doesn't lead the suggestions to appear (for example "forsen" in forsens channel) or "pepe" in another channel like in the clip.

Would be nice to have a small animation for tabs and backtabs. Tabing fast through similar emote families like borpa or donk feels a bit irritating atm.

If there is only one available 7tv emote for tab completion, the one possible emote is still shown as a suggestion above the chat. Doesn't happen if the only available emote is uploaded elsewhere.

[kindred crown]

it looks like you have another extension acting on the input

[heavy widget]

will test again

So the issue with some words not leading to the suggestion was triggered by another extension

[graceful oxide]

um actually i tested it

and the same shit happens

[heavy widget]

Still not sure if the emote should be shown above chat if there is just one possible outcome.

[graceful oxide]

i have to press tab twice to get the menu to show up

[kindred crown]

i fixed that in 15.1

[graceful oxide]

the emotes need more space in between

is the switch between the emotes animated or am i tripping

[kindred crown]

it's not animated but you get an illusion of motion bc it's a carousel

[true flower]

oh yeah, was thinking this could be tied to a floating popup floating-dom style around wherever the users input is @kindred crown

when we have a custom chatbox

like so the carousel is where it normally is but dips down and around the input text

and if its shorter

center aligns itself with the origin

if its wider, then scrolls and takes up full width

like regular

[kindred crown]

it's a floating ui already , it was anchored to a global thing though , i tied it to the input node now

[true flower]

not really what i mean

[kindred crown]

oh do you mean like as part of the input

when we make a custom one

[true flower]

like this

[kindred crown]

holy

[true flower]

so its not always in the center

its center is where the word is

unless its expanded so far it becomes a carousel

above X emotes

then this would serve dual purpose

not just for tab complete

but in the custom chat box

we can preview what word we're about to replace

before the user hits space

[kindred crown]

yeah

[true flower]

if it matches 1:1

[kindred crown]

i see what u mean

[true flower]

also for some reason

I really want the ability

to disable emotes from becoming emotes

it would be a strange feature for most I suppose

but like we tokenize them in the input box

and then if someone hovers

over a tokenized emote we can let them cancel it out

to regular text

and then when we send

[kindred crown]

i guess for that we just append a unicode tag 0

[true flower]

yeah

we just append a blank tag

into the middle

to prevent it from becoming an emote

[kindred crown]

middle or at the end of it

[true flower]

so people can type things like hello

in chats with a shit ton of word emotes

[heavy widget]

holy

that would be insanely nice

I watch a few of those streamers and I hate that every word is an emote

[true flower]

what is in the input box is actually wysiwyg

[kindred crown]

we should artificially remove the unicode tag from rendered messages however

[true flower]

yeah could do

[kindred crown]

or it'll become a mess when copy pasting

i think

[true flower]

or have it be detectable

in the input box

like have it always placed at the end

and so people can toggle

back and forth

[kindred crown]

true, a visualization that the emote is disabled

[true flower]

maybe just a small highlight

in the input

that you can click

when you hover it shows the same carousel

as when you first typed

[heavy widget]

Would it make sense to not have a carousel if there are less than x emotes and instead of the emote moving positions, the highlight switches from left to right etc?

[kindred crown]

@graceful oxide

[true flower]

this is good for now though

none of those things are really possible without the chat replacement

[kindred crown]

yeah we cant easily have it placed at the right position

it's either middle, left or right

no inbetween

[true flower]

yeah thats why I was saying it should be floating to the text, we can do that with a custom chat

and floating-dom's inline

then it could truely be anywhere

above the relevant text

[graceful oxide]

is it blurring the purple outline of the chatbox

cause it looks like it

[kindred crown]

nah i think that just happened to be some spam in the background being purple

[graceful oxide]

[wind sapphire]

this looks great

[kindred crown]

15.1 patch should be up in the next 20 mins

with theater mode fix and needing 2 tabs to show up

[wind sapphire]

hard at work

[kindred crown]

i think we are feature-complete for release

theres a few more things i wanted to add in but im not sure feature creeping is a good idea

the old extension is a disaster and i don't want it to exist any longer

just need to do the onboarding , fix a number of things, and it's ready for live

[wind sapphire]

did u see what i asked about copying emojis

[kindred crown]

what was it

[wind sapphire]

dis

[kindred crown]

uuuh

yea about that @true flower

how do we solve this

[wind sapphire]

[kindred crown]

it's not possible to cv paste vectors

[true flower]

dis not an issue

I dont think

[kindred crown]

i guess we would need to to synthesize it somehow

[true flower]

it is possible it needs an alt an the right css

[kindred crown]

oh?

[wind sapphire]

[true flower]

user-selectable?

something like that

[kindred crown]

hm ok ill check

[wind sapphire]

appreciate it

[kindred crown]

@true flower user-select: all and alt doesn't work

im pretty sure svg is just weird

it's a browser thing, maybe a chrome thing

it's just not selectable

👉 ((( 🟢 )))

any pulsating green circle enjoyers

[heavy widget]

no green

browser restart auto updated though

[true flower]

yeah idk whats up with that

does seem like a bug

because it behaves expectedly with <img>

alt gets copied unless user-select is set to something other than all

in which case it has a newline

which is exactly what svg does, but always

Apu

tried with a few others just to see, maybe im just not thinking of the right keywords to find if anyone else has come across this

title and aria-labels dont work either

even with aria-role=img

[kindred crown]

the pulsating green circle wants YOU to UPDATE

[heavy widget]

it didn't appear

[kindred crown]

i blame caching

[narrow wind]

It worked for me

[wind sapphire]

i never got that

[heavy widget]

cleared cache and will wait for 15.2

[narrow wind]

You know how the slider for message batching only goes down to 25 ms? Is that just a sanity value? Or is it like an inherent limit? I think most people would prefer to see 0 ms as an option, even if it's not actually 0 ms.

having 25 ms there implies that 7tv is arbitrarily adding a 25 ms delay to message delivery

[kindred crown]

i mean it does say (Instant)

[gentle ridge]

Imo you should be able to click the emote that you want in the carousel

[narrow wind]

It certainly does say instant

[kindred crown]

that was planned but i forgor to add it in with the release, it'll probably be a thing in a future patch

[gentle ridge]

[wind sapphire]

future patch (tomorrow)

[kindred crown]

you're able to use arrow keys though

yeah basically, i try to have a new release every day

[gentle ridge]

Oh sweet I didnt even realize that

[narrow wind]

is it intentional to have the "end" emotes duplicated on both sides?

[kindred crown]

yeah, to keep the carousel effect

otherwise you'd get a weird thrashing

with either ends becoming empty and the middle moving to either side

[narrow wind]

makes sense. It's just a little weird to see for my first experience with the carousel

also sub emotes don't seem to be showing in the carousel

I really should've read all the discussion before talking in here

[kindred crown]

[gentle ridge]

If you scroll through fast with the arrow keys and delete the text the carousel doesnt dissapear https://i.imgur.com/zqrjYsx.png

[kindred crown]

how

[heavy widget]

happened to me too but wasn't able to reproduce for proof <.<

[gentle ridge]

Yeah now I cant reproduce it I got it to happen like 3 times in a row

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1058849393370992650.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[true flower]

this is probably expected behavior

twitch's native sub emote search is a lil strange

they split by capitals

and then sort by word split

so if it matches anywhere that is starting at a capital

than it matches

[gentle ridge]

I found a way to reproduce it like 50% of the time, if you spam the left and right arrow a bunch and delete the text the carousel will stay

https://i.imgur.com/6n1P1wv.gif

[narrow wind]

Do you know how Chatterino's emote search works?

it seems pretty robust

[true flower]

if input is anywhere in emote code

= match

sort alphabetically

[kindred crown]

im pretty sure we are 1:1 with chatterino in terms of sorting

[true flower]

native is only if it starts with the search

restarting at each capital

[kindred crown]

hm i see, you can reproduce it 100% of the time by holding an arrow key and pressing control+backspace

makes sense, the render of the carousel happens on the tick following the matches being sorted

[patent pewter]

i can't make the carousel to appear

[true flower]

thats because you went back to v2

you have to be on the beta

[gentle ridge]

[sacred pike]

also

wonder how many people got timed out by some inattentive mod who are like bro 2 weeks for posting a link

[kindred crown]

[sacred pike]

ik you mentioned awhile back about being able to see the blocked terms that were set in streams? were you still considering that?

[kindred crown]

nah that was a bug with twitch

[sacred pike]

ahhh alright. must have missed that being mentioned. as cool as it would be probably for the best in the end

[wet cedar]

People would be naive enough to add their address/full name/etc. in the blocked terms and then wind up doxxing themselves tbh

[sacred pike]

100% people are too fucking dank for their own good

[patent pewter]

[spice sleet]

I'm on Firefox, just updated to version 3.0.0.15100 , and the toggle is enabled, but the tab carousel thing is not showing up, am I missing something?

[sacred pike]

try closing the browser entirely and opening the stream again. firefox has weird cache stuff that happens with the updates im pretty sure

[spice sleet]

Didn't work, also, don't know if it's related, but I've also notice that, sometimes, the normal autocomplete stops showing the image of the emote in the chat, showing the text instead (though the emote looks normal once you actually send the message), and when that happens, I have to restart the browser to fix it. No idea if those two things are related at all.

[sacred pike]

any chance you are running any other extensions like BTTV or FFZ? 7tv beta replaces the entire chat so its possible its one of the other extensions interfering

[spice sleet]

I do run bttv (it does some things that 7tv doesn't, no?), I can try disabling that

I did notice that ever since I started using the beta 7tv, the feature where mentions stay pinned above the chat stopped working, I guess that's a conflict between them...do you know if that's something that's planned to be added to 7tv?

(yeah, disabling bttv got the carousel to work, by the way)

[sacred pike]

I haven't seen it specifically mentioned yet. I know we have a deafult ping sound and tab flash, but it's def worth posting in #1063506536154026024 to hopefully get features added that you want!

glad that was the fix! if there are other options/ settings you wanna see added the beta suggestions channel is the place to add em. chances are you see them added soon Anatole is crazy and trying to aim for 1 update per day rn!

[spice sleet]

done, and before I submit a second thing there, do you know if there are already plans to add auto-claiming for stuff other than channel points? (namely drops and moments) If not, I'll suggest that too

[spice sleet]

yeah, I re-enabled BTTV temporarily to look through its features and see what I'm going to be missing now that it's going to be off

[kindred crown]

good to know, i'll set the event listener as a capture so no other extensions can take hold of tabbing

@true flower is this sane

i dont see any other way to deal with this

it's very kkona but

{ capture: true } goes brr

[sacred pike]

the man himself. yeah I forgot entirely about the above chat pings. mostly because when I got a ping the chat not loading a chunk of messages at a time I'm able to catch it

[spice sleet]

I've also been noticing that it takes several attempts to update the beta whenever there's an update, I wonder if having BTTV on had to do with that too

[kindred crown]

on firefox the update button can't work

[spice sleet]

oh

is it ever the case that the extension will say there's an update, before it's 'live' in Firefox?

in the extension store/place/whatever?

iirc, a couple of updates ago, I noticed that same thing, and went to look for an update that way, but Firefox said there was no update, and the version number made it clear I was still on the old version

[sacred pike]

restriction from the browser I assume?

[kindred crown]

it lacks the specific API to do a manual update check

most likely the button will just be hidden on firefox

[spice sleet]

You could replace it with something suggesting the user go to about:addons and update it manually? Or at least just say something like 'you're not on the most recent version, update your addons to get it'?

[spice sleet]

is this true for the "enable youtube" button as well? I've noticed that does nothing, lol

[true flower]

capture is fine

but it works backwards

from what you'd expect

[kindred crown]

yt button should work

unless you already granted perms

[kindred crown]

wdym

[true flower]

regularly events bubble up from bottom to top

unless canceled

except for handlers

marked capture

[kindred crown]

setting it to true does fix the bttv conflict

[true flower]

get the events before lower elements

top to bottom

[kindred crown]

[true flower]

ie. it might fuck shit

[kindred crown]

i only marked the one

this one

[spice sleet]

how do I know if I did? I know I clicked it a bunch of times, but I would have expected it to change to "youtube enabled" or something once it was done

[kindred crown]

im aware capture is super kkona but i think this is an okay use here, since we only use one event listener for the input as a whole

or well, technically two, but theyre acting on different keys

[spice sleet]

This one's weird...if I autocomplete an emote and then press space, the image of the emote will replace the text that makes it right in the chat input text box, but ONLY if it's a Twitch emote, not if it's BTTV/FFZ/7TV.

Also, I've noticed that it's only Twitch emotes where as you're Tabbing (let's say cycling through the different Kappa emotes), the text gets highlighted with the cursor sitting just after the last character. The highlight goes away when I cycle to, for example, KappaCool , which is a BTTV global I think, and the cursor sits one space after the emote text instead.

[tardy grotto]

i didnt get a popup for the new version of the extension

[scenic pelican]

why emote not updooting in beta

[edgy glacier]

Ouu beautiful! Now the tab completion is spot on and the carousel works fantastic!

All i need to ditch ffz nwo is favorite emotes and left side chat

[graceful oxide]

[sacred pike]

Analtoe u nab! u kapchur mai teb key! gib bek nao or im goeng bek to v2!

[kindred crown]

I complete onboarding page today

[wind sapphire]

[sacred pike]

[hybrid verge]

[covert sparrow]

[edgy glacier]

[cursive plover]

When hovering mouse over an emote in chat, the emote that pops up moves one pixel down and left

[cursive plover]

Seems to mostly affect the "hype" emotes when sent with a message

[kindred swan]

Just wondering but should I see a ton of
[7TV] [DEBUG] [Worker] etc in my console?

[kindred crown]

sneak peek of onboarding experience

[frank kite]

very pog

[sacred pike]

[gentle ridge]

pag MAN

[covert sparrow]

[gentle ridge]

[tiny yacht]

[patent pewter]

[kindred swan]

Can anyone tell me if it is normal for this to be all in the console or not?

[true flower]

NODDERS

[shadow basalt]

where is this from

[shadow basalt]

Privet

[narrow wind]

lifE

[covert sparrow]

pEace

[tardy grotto]

when the extension goes live will you guys continue working on the site as well?

[lapis heron]

no after the extension we'll start work on the sex update

[tardy grotto]

[versed temple]

LEGENDARY SEX UPDATE

[gentle ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[gentle ridge]

[kindred crown]

Finishing this, fixing a few bugs then will be going with a release candidate

Twitch keeps changing shit so the new extension has to release

Cutting a few things from the launch, so it's going live within the next couple days

[versed temple]

make it like the pokemon mystery dungeon personality quiz
https://youtu.be/JtFVPmQR21g

also buttons not centered

[vestal basalt]

7tv chatterino is completely stupid

badges aren’t showing up and neither are emotes

but the other two extensions work on it

[heavy widget]

Is this new? I'm not a mod in that channel.

[ebon wing]

yeah it's known #1080288942080917535 message

and for the reason why the bug happens #general message

[heavy widget]

Twitch being twitch

[covert sparrow]

nightbot is stealing your data bro be careful

[plain agate]

Hello, Im using ffz as well. I switched to the beta version, (because of this --> #1080250853400789072 message) here all the icons on the left side that I previously set in ffz are no longer displayed, is there a way to get them back? I can not live without them

[ebon wing]

the beta extension rewrite completly the chat, so it's normal. But most FFZ features will be added with time

[tardy grotto]

only badges needed from ffz are the bot/mod badges

either bring them from ffz or let us upload our own badges

[ebon wing]

[plain agate]

what about the inline for actions

[covert sparrow]

would be quite based

animated mod badges

Can you imagine

[plain agate]

btw it's terrible for compatibility with other extensions to rewrite everything

[ebon wing]

they are actively working with ffz devs, so its fine (bttv doesnt touch the chat afaik)

[plain agate]

would be cool if it is compatible with ffz

[ebon wing]

yeah, im so hype for v3/ffz smooth chat with ffz feature + more

[plain agate]

[sacred pike]

webp for ants

[covert sparrow]

[heavy widget]

[covert sparrow]

literally

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-gif-26070007

or some shit like this

[heavy widget]

[sacred pike]

[tardy grotto]

yeah, but the chat is way better

[tardy grotto]

will be an awful experience, im down

[covert sparrow]

think it would be fine if there was like a forced green border that renders over the uploaded badge

[tardy grotto]

should be kind of close to the actual mod badges imo, yeah

green and white, i guess

[sacred pike]

yeah i like that FFZ makes you keep it white on green and you have to use opacity for shading

[tardy grotto]

also, adding mod badges will give more work to the mods

which is always good

[sacred pike]

I thought 7tv was made because we didnt like rules and now you mean to tell me I can't upload my swastika for a mod badge? bro its a joke everyone calls mods nazis! what ever...... yur just as bad as BTTV

[wind sapphire]

ughhh i cant believe rules were set up in the 2 years the extension has been active

[tardy grotto]

yeah, zulul was the first emote uploaded

what is this bullshit

[sacred pike]

[sacred pike]

"what an awful emote. this extension is out of hand and will never last!" their community goes back to spamming WEEBS IN despite it being a Vietnamese person on screen, and cmonBruh when they so much as detect a black person. racism defeated

[tardy grotto]

who are you talking to

[sacred pike]

mostly just parroting everyone who wanted to write off 7tv early on because of but didnt say shit when their communites did other shit

daily schizo moment

[onyx quartz]

am i doing it wrong then if i have bttv, 7tv non beta, and ffz all installed ? KEKW

[wind sapphire]

yea its excessive

they all have support one another

[tardy grotto]

yeah, its a bit redundant to have all 3

[wind sapphire]

currently ffz has the most extra features if youre into that but v3 beta is closing in on it

[tardy grotto]

if you dont wanna deal with it that much, just use ffz and have bttv + 7tv addons active through there

^^^^

ok, ill stop repeating saffy's msgs now

[onyx quartz]

i wouldnt know how to do that xD

[wind sapphire]

we're twinning

[sacred pike]

def worth giving the high performance chat in the beta a shot tho! once you see that smooth scroll

[wind sapphire]

[sacred pike]

OTHER EXTENSIONS

[tardy grotto]

i see it

[wind sapphire]

[sacred pike]

that ones good AF

[shadow ferry]

Is there a way to change 24hr format to 12 hour format. when I downloaded the beta it switched it to 24hr on me.

[sacred pike]

not currently there isn't unfortunately

[tardy grotto]

first beta stages were in the 12hrs clock system, good thing it was changed

[gentle ridge]

24 hour system is cringe.

I aint readin allat

[tardy grotto]

L take

[gentle ridge]

Yo whats the time? yeah its 16:46

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1069349980470530128.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

wtf does that even mean

[tardy grotto]

exactly

[kindred crown]

16:46 is shorter than 4:46 PM

Checkmate

[versed temple]

Imagine writing 2 more letters

[kindred crown]

Anyway real chads read time in unix millis

[versed temple]

ah yes today is 1677732627542

[narrow wind]

Based

I use 24h time though

It’s cringe because that’s what L countries use

But it’s cool because that’s what the military uses

And in this case, the coolness supersedes the cringe

[narrow wind]

I still have to convert 24h time to 12h to know what time it is

i kinda visualize an analog clock sometimes too

[versed temple]

Just -12 if it is past 12

[tardy grotto]

The fact that the military uses the 24hrs system makes it a big L

[stuck vortex]

even places that use 24h format still have 12h analog clocks

[tardy grotto]

youre not serious right?

[wind sapphire]

me when im absolutely unable to count past 12

[hybrid verge]

[stuck vortex]

what do you mean? i know that 24 hour analog clocks exist but it's not that common

[tardy grotto]

[stuck vortex]

not sure if you're trying to or not

[tardy grotto]

there is a reason why countries use a 12 hours analog clock

[stuck vortex]

I made no comment about the reason and simply stated that they do

[tardy grotto]

you wrote that like it's a weird thing

[stuck vortex]

No it was a cheeky jab about the 12h vs 24h debate

that was all

[tardy grotto]

even places that use 24h format still have 12h analog clocks

[stuck vortex]

yeah as a "even the places that use 24h know that 12h is superior" joke

[tardy grotto]

[stuck vortex]

Bro this isn't a difficult concept

[wind sapphire]

12h is not superior

[covert sparrow]

working 12h overnights for 2 1/2 years made me learn 24h format 👍

[shadow crystal]

Idk if it's a known issue, with beta i see people with subscription expired like they still have a subscription and their cosmetic

[short compass]

cache issues maybe?

[patent pewter]

I cleared my browser cache and history and it fixed some issues like seeing someone with different paints and badges in Chatterino but ppl with expired subs still appear as being subs in the extension although chatterino shows that they are not.

[gentle ridge]

Chat keeps going blank https://i.imgur.com/RYL6MOp.png

[kindred crown]

do you have other extensions on

i dont think this is an issue

[gentle ridge]

I tried with just 7tv and its not happening It was working fine yesterday

Someone else was having this problem too #general message

@lavish hedge What other extensions are you using?

[kindred crown]

can you say the extension(s) you were using pls

[lavish hedge]

FFZ and Bttv

[gentle ridge]

FFZ and Previews(For TTV & YT)

[kindred crown]

ok can you show console when this happens

[gentle ridge]

Yeah

[lavish hedge]

Ive switched back to stable

ill switch back again tho

[gentle ridge]

It takes a little bit to happen

And it stays blank for like 30 seconds or until you type

[lavish hedge]

Mine stays blank for awhile

[gentle ridge]

@lavish hedge are you using any ad blockers?

[lavish hedge]

When it happens again ill screenshot console

yes

im using adblock

[gentle ridge]

I'll test with and without adblock

[lavish hedge]

https://i.imgur.com/Kd6rZlf.png https://i.imgur.com/Kd6rZlf.png @kindred crown

https://i.imgur.com/FSzbAUR.png

blank chat thats the console

[gentle ridge]

I turned all extensions back on and I cant get it to happen now

[lavish hedge]

It just started happening to me again

[kindred crown]

is the chat being cleared by mods

[lavish hedge]

Nah

its xqcs chat

[kindred crown]

does it happen with no other extensions or not

[lavish hedge]

I have every other extension enabled and its doing that

Stable doesnt have that problem for me

[kindred crown]

yes no shit stable has nothing in common

[lavish hedge]

https://i.imgur.com/mq9wXra.png

Blank again rn

[sacred pike]

[kindred crown]

it's probably linked to message types

i guess i'll push a 15.3 quickly

was just gonna bundle with 16

[lavish hedge]

every time the chat reappears its all sub messages, prime etc

like its overloading and breaking the chat

[kindred crown]

yea whatever

ill push it now

its basically already been fixed then

[kindred crown]

@lavish hedge @sacred pike should be fixed in .3

up now

[sacred pike]

first time I had the chance to use the in extension update! worked great!

[lavish hedge]

Do i have to relaunch twitch @kindred crown

[sacred pike]

always a safe bet after any update to at the very least refresh

[wheat tangle]

Does it happen to anyone else that when you open the channel rewards, do they ever come up as new? I'm talking about old channel rewards

[heavy widget]

Doesn't happen to me.

[narrow wind]

Am angry dog? Or have personal emotes disappeared?

[kindred crown]

Type in chat once

[narrow wind]

Still nothing

[gentle ridge]

Fixed after a refresh but the emote menu was opening in the top left

https://i.imgur.com/n3IrtHJ.jpeg

[vague summit]

I've just noticed that the extension breaks FFZ addons that add stuff to chat, is there a way yo fix that?

[gentle ridge]

The beta is a completely new chat so any other extensions that modify chat in any way will not work

[vague summit]

that's fucking annoying

[gentle ridge]

You can post suggestions in #1063506536154026024

[lapis crag]

7TV will have most if not all of current FFZ features if I've understood correctly

I am still waiting for bigger emotes

[vague summit]

I have ffz addons for moderation that break, that's just annoying

[lapis crag]

That is understandable. Just use FFZ and switch to 7TV when all the features are available

[kindred crown]

it seems like you're not subscribed

[narrow wind]

OH yes that is true

I was the retard all along

the sub expired recently

[kindred crown]

pay up

[narrow wind]

(how embarassing)

[sacred pike]

[narrow wind]

Actually personal emotes are probably the most attractive feature for me

[frank kite]

bayzed

now pay up boy...

[sacred pike]

BIG RETARD USER 🫵 WHEN NUB NO SUB DAS A BIG PROBLEM 💢 TRESH SUPOORTAR 🫵 -4 EURO 💶 👉 💸

[narrow wind]

I love this meme

you have adapted it well to this situation

unfortunately I have only gotten busier and spend less and less time on twitch

[sacred pike]

wish I could say the same! I spend too much fuckin time on twitch, lsf watch, and discord! need to get a second job!

literal days worth of black mold injected into my brain

[lapis crag]

a SECOND job, leave some for others

[vestal basalt]

no fuck u

im taking all the jobs. no more for any of you

[fallow crag]

Is something wrong with the website right now?

When I search for specific Twitch usernames in the search bar, nothing shows up and it won't let me login to Twitch

The window popup for redirection shows up and then immediately disappears

Weird thing is that is does show my subscription status, but that's about it.

[lapis crag]

Seems like something is down. I have been logged out and cannot log back in

[fallow crag]

Yeah, just shows the Twitch sign-in logo on the top right.

[sacred pike]

@lapis crag @fallow crag #help-old message

[sacred pike]

STAAAAAAAAPH

[vestal basalt]

nothing personal, strictly business

[fallow crag]

Thank you!

[patent pewter]

Any updates ? Beta or stable ?

[kindred crown]

should be new patch tonight, ive had some other stuff to deal with hence why no new content for the past couple days

this next build introduces onboarding

[kindred crown]

[ebon wing]

why the nametag paint has a star next to it ?

[kindred crown]

ie the showcase isnt necessarily purchasable

[ebon wing]

oh i see, nice

[patent pewter]

can i subscribe like 1 month retroactively to get some more paints ?

[graceful oxide]

just show the 5 paints that are available

also there is a lot of empty space

the gradient on the button looks dank

[kindred crown]

it's an animation not a gradient

it's a streak animation

[graceful oxide]

make the squares darker than the background

avatar outline should be thicker

[fallow crag]

Is there any way to search emotes based on if they are unlisted?

[frank kite]

on the website, no. if they have it added in their channel, yes

[narrow wind]

That would (almost) defeat the whole point of emotes being unlisted

[fallow crag]

Yeah, but unlisted emotes still show up in trending.

I thought the whole point of them being unlisted is that they didn't show up in the emote picker.

[narrow wind]

Well it’s so they don’t get streamers banned

That’s the ultimate reason

So streamers can browse for emotes on stream

Showing up in trending is probably a mistake

I wasn’t aware they did that

[wet cedar]

like when sorting by date created was randomly showing every unlisted emote on a few different occasions last month

[wet cedar]

oh yeah that's been a thing (bug? idk) for at least a couple months now

[fallow crag]

I just wish there was a specific filter that you could click on to allow unlisted emotes to show up in top and trending.

That way streamers won't get banned and set the filter to off by default after every refresh of the page or something.

[wet cedar]

If I browsed emotes on stream I would simply not open any blurred emotes and would also learn how to read

[fallow crag]

Yeah, even if unlisted emotes were shown by default in both tabs, they are blurred by default.

[wind sapphire]

newly uploaded emotes are unlisted by default so mods have an opportunity to have a look at them in the queue

having them available for everyone would kinda defeat the purpose of a queue

[frank kite]

^

[wet cedar]

could always implement an nsfw flag so they're still discoverable but need a flag enabled on the searcher's side to be visible

https://7tv.app/emotes/6287c2ca6d9cd2d1f31b5e7d like maybe I'm just missing context but this is literally just some dude existing and there's no way to find it otherwise lol

[wind sapphire]

for good reason

[kindred crown]

"some dude existing"

[wind sapphire]

[frank kite]

[sacred pike]

[frank kite]

but yeah we will never let people see unlisted shit, as anson said it could get streamers banned, and that’s on their risk if they wanna add said unlisted emote or not, we haven’t enabled to everyone since and i don’t think we will in the future

unlisted is called unlisted for a reason

[sacred pike]

all it takes is one bad editor

[frank kite]

one…

[wind sapphire]

some of the shit that ppl upload is genuinely vile and should not even have a chance to reach a bigger audience

[sacred pike]

https://tenor.com/view/we-live-in-a-society-society-joker-gamers-rise-up-gang-weed-gif-13919217

[wind sapphire]

like u would be surprised what people pull

[sacred pike]

is 7tv the only service that doesnt have auto-approval available on emotes?

[frank kite]

yes

[sacred pike]

WAIT

[frank kite]

we do it manually

[sacred pike]

how the fuck is that big fucking retard Night going to say this when a person manually approves each one?

actual brain damage

[gentle ridge]

Hes just mad cause hes falling off

[sacred pike]

lil bro still buttsore people were able to upload red and blue sanic

[frank kite]

it’s because auto approval is fucking retarded and you get shit that isn’t allowed that has been auto approved, hell i’ve seen bttv emotes that would be deleted but got automatically approved

[sacred pike]

100% I had a pair of bouncing balls called KEKW for like a good month or 2 before someone reported them

[wind sapphire]

poor moderation standards ...

they allow salami and red/blue dots

[sacred pike]

I remember when it turned into red and blue squares and people were still gettin that shit removed

[wind sapphire]

they allow emotes to be common words and don't force users to begin emote names with a capital

[sacred pike]

two character emote names

[tardy grotto]

Wdym, ZULUL was the first emote uploaded

Ofc it's bad moderation

[sacred pike]

[frank kite]

they allow pogchamp variants anyways

[tardy grotto]

Yeah, but these aren't based on totalbiscuit

[sacred pike]

it was FFZ that cracked down on those? I think it was anything that had his face visible?

[tardy grotto]

Yeah, it was ffz

Not bttv

[wind sapphire]

they allow the pogchamp guy

5:11 am

gn

[sacred pike]

gn @wind sapphire

[tardy grotto]

I just woke up

Gn saffy

[sacred pike]

if the "worst " censorship I've seen on 7TV is not allowing Epstein emotes from that bozo the other day. I'm fuckin for it I don't wanna see what the fuck goes on in that chat if Epstein is "just a lidl giggle"

[kindred crown]

just reworked the entire compile flow

now extension content & background are actually able to be worked with

[south beacon]

[kindred crown]

beta 16 will go live within the hour
it's a one line changelog it's literally just onboarding

might be bugged or not idk im tired will see the reactions people have of the popup that is gonna be opened for everyone

[patent pewter]

Beta 16

[hybrid verge]

the "next" button here is not working, i had to click where is marked in red to go to the next page

[wild crane]

i had some issues with this window as well, made a forum post. it disabled the extension for me or rather removed the 7tv symbol from my twitch and wouldn't come back until i fully closed and reopened my browser

have you tried to maybe untick and re tick the boxes and see if it comes back? @hybrid verge

[kindred crown]

might be firefox skill issue

it should work if you untick youtube i guess

it must not be willing to prompt you for permissions for whatever god forsaken furry browser kind of reason

[hybrid verge]

nope still not working

might actually just a firefox thing

[kindred crown]

i saw it being an issue when iwas testing locally on ff but i imagined the store version would work

i guess not though idk why

it works on chrome

[high geode]

Ye next button is fucked on firefox

[hybrid verge]

firefox moment

[high geode]

just test it better

Wait it works when u tick only Youtube, it then asked me for permissions to allow

So the problem is the twitch one

[kindred crown]

[high geode]

I also see no console output

idk if there should be over this

[hybrid verge]

[high geode]

I have an idea why

[amber kelp]

i have this issue beta 16

[high geode]

@kindred crown When u install the extension for the first time, u are being asked already to give twitch.tv permissions

So when u are on the onboarding window, u have already twitch persmissons (but not yt since its optional=

[kindred crown]

almost definitely unrelated - 7tv doesnt touch this part of the site

[high geode]

is there a logical error where when only twitch is ticked that u try to force to give permissions even tho these exist already?

[celest wigeon]

i have that padding issue on the left too

[high geode]

Me too

[celest wigeon]

disabling the beta fixes it

[amber kelp]

[kindred crown]

some kind of god of war styling fuckery i guess

ah i see

[hybrid verge]

[kindred crown]

styles from the onboarding page leaked onto twitch

only when in production mode

[hybrid verge]

[heavy widget]

i18n when? 😮

[kindred crown]

soon, the extension has a fuck ton of text

probably gonna be for the patch after launch

[heavy widget]

looking forward to it

[hybrid verge]

more lines

[heavy widget]

What I find a bit weird is, that the last four questions for streamers are the same already answered for chatters. I selected yes for both last questions as a chatter and they were pre-set to no as a streamer. Leads to the questions if these are different settings for my channel than for every other channel. I mean they are probably not because the setting only exists once, but still.

[inner bolt]

on youtube there is also the same padding problem

[kindred crown]

yeah there would be it's a style leak on a global stylesheet

fixed now next version

[errant rain]

why dose my twitch look like this it is cut off

[kindred crown]

read one message above yours

[wind sapphire]

literally 1 message above answers that

[errant rain]

ok

[west frigate]

[errant rain]

thx

[narrow wind]

Anatole answering a question before it’s asked

[marble coral]

my minimized chrome popped up over my running apps after plugin update 😄
that was suddenly

[narrow wind]

Yeah it’s annoying how extensions do that

Chrome should fix that tbh

The worst part is that is always does the same thing on every install of chrome you have

[narrow wind]

Meaning every time I sign into Chrome Sync on a new device I have a bunch of tabs open trying to onboard me at once

None of them actually require a sign in or anything.

Now, I know MOST people just use 1 install of Chrome on each of 1 or 2 computers. (I have about 9 Chrome installs that I either use regularly or could need to use at any moment, each with a set of profiles that use some of the same extensions)

[marble coral]

on ff download button does nothing - is that okay?

[sacred pike]

yeah thats normal. #beta-discussion message

you should be able to update it from in the extensions page of firefox with no issue.

[sturdy fable]

I have kinda problem on chat i see unlisted emotes as blured any suggest how to fix that?

[heavy widget]

head to the 7tv options. The 7tv icon is on the left side to your twitch profile picture in the top right corner. the first option in the popped up window should solve the issue.

[cursive rampart]

cptdrax is no longer AFK: (no message) (3h, 37m ago)

[sturdy fable]

Oh thanks a lot i was kinda suprised when i open chat yesterday was everything normal

[narrow wind]

it's gonna be one of those extensions

but tbh it already was, with the YT onboarding in the stable version

[graceful oxide]

oh wait i thought the this shit is gonna show up inside the extension menu and not on a separate page

i wouldve designed my mockups differently

it all makes sense now

everything is too big

you shouldve clarified it @kindred crown

[sacred pike]

[narrow wind]

"unchecking" youtube on the onboarding screen (via this:

)

doesn't remove it from youtube

Is that even possible for an extension to do?

[tardy grotto]

youre going to use the extension on youtube

and youre going to like it

[spice sleet]

Did I do something to make the chat timestamps appear in 24 hour time?

[versed temple]

7tv beta forces timestamps to be in 24 hrs format
No way to change it for now

[narrow wind]

oh that reminds me I wanted to make a suggestion for timestamps

[spice sleet]

hopefully there will be a way to change it in future

[frank kite]

we dont need no gah damn shit EU time

[versed temple]

how fix
i hard refreshed

[true flower]

you not fix

you wait

cdn ratelimit

you download too fast

madge

[wet cedar]

add torrent seeder and downloader to bitcoin miner so it nerf fast speed

[violet wraith]

7tv broke on edge

[wet cedar]

[versed temple]

Either wait
Or #help-old message

[violet wraith]

yea I just saw

[sacred pike]

BIG RETARD DEVS 🫵 WHEN NUB BREK CHET DAS A BIG PROBLEM 💢 TRESH XTENSHIN 🫵 -4 EURO 👉 💶 ❌

[rigid ruin]

i was wondering if the auto-claim channel points option will be available in the future

[kindred crown]

it is available

settings -> channel -> autoclaim

[rigid ruin]

oh

thanks

oh how about the custom vip/mod badges from ffz

[kindred crown]

not implemented atm

[rigid ruin]

👍🏽

[narrow wind]

ffz and bttv adding features that the other extensions don't have implemented yet

Chatterino7 is honestly a huge advantage

[kindred crown]

anything that they're implementing right now isn't going to make the cut on the initial launch of v3

im not adding more features

at this point im only fixing bugs and UX issues

Im working on a compatibility checker atm. It's gonna let us flag certain extensions that have compatibility issues and give users a button an option to turn them off when browsing twitch with 7tv enabled

[narrow wind]

People love 7tv's live emote updating feature. Some of them can't live without it, and will use Chatterino7 or 7TV over anything else for that reason alone.

a killer feature, if you will.

[tardy grotto]

feature so good it was adopter by bttv

and being worked on to be added to ffz as well

[kindred crown]

started working on this after i heard reports of some weird extensions causing issues (not the ones showcased here)

extension clashes are the bane of my existence so this should help hopefully

[versed temple]

👉 [DISABLE]

[wind sapphire]

that's based

[covert sparrow]

[carmine imp]

Small issue but as you can see you can barely read the name of people with a black paint.

[kindred crown]

try enabling readable colors

(in twitch settings)

[carmine imp]

The person is not talking anymore so I can't tell if it worked or not, if it didn't i'll let you know otherwise ty

It worked

[covert sparrow]

[plucky ibex]

accidently Deleted the personal use emotes Set any way to re add it?

[gentle ridge]

You will get it back once v3 is released (soon )

[plucky ibex]

do we have a ETA for V3 release?

[gentle ridge]

Should be a few more days

[plucky ibex]

Thank you for the info

[gentle ridge]

[sacred pike]

maybe im just missing the point. seems kinda weird that we had the ability to delete the personal emote set in the first place? if you dont want the personal emotes anymore its not that tough to just remove 5 emotes?

[snow zealot]

Nah you always need to give people the option to fuck it up, makes it more interesting

[gentle ridge]

Hmm.. whats this personal emote set... 👉 [DELETE]

[frank kite]

[sacred pike]

[steady dagger]

am I the only one who hasn't been able to update through the Beta settings panel since v15? Uninstalling and reinstalling gets the latest version, but clicking the green "New Version Available" text in the settings upgrade process seemingly just stops on "Downloading Please Wait". Used to work fine up until v15. Using Brave browser.. (posted a thread in the issues-suggestions channel too)

[ocean void]

17 and still no notification volume slider

Split message background on VODs would also be hella litty epic poggers

[wind sapphire]

just noticed highlighting usernames with paints adds the paints outline/shadow to the highlight but it looks kinda cool

[narrow wind]

yeah that is cool

lets you see the drop shadows when you otherwise wouldn't

might not be intentional but I say keep it. lol

[wind sapphire]

yea i genuinely like it

[grand steppe]

me too on chrome

i clicked it a few times maybe im just impatient but its gone now

[sacred pike]

agree as well if it's not intentional it should be now

[tardy grotto]

Working for me on chrome

[paper pagoda]

when we used FFZ, before the arrival of 7tv, we streamers had a very cool FFZ tool, which was the option: when you hover over a LINK in our chat, it opened a preview of the video/image , and that helped us a lot, as it prevented us from clicking on links we didn't want, something like inappropriate things. With the arrival of the 7tv, it superseded this option and we were left without. Is there any possibility for you to implement this in 7tv? Because it is a very important tool for us streamers who do video reactions to avoid clicking on links that could lead us to +18 videos and get banned from the platform.

[wind sapphire]

if you need this now, you could always use chatterino as it has link and image previews that can be censored while OBS is open theres a link in #news

[lavish hedge]

https://i.imgur.com/CEO8xil.pngMaybe in the future add/fix why emotes dont appear when you reply to them. Small addition doesnt need to be added but for aesthetics it would be more pleasing seeing the emotes in the message you are replying to 👍

[frank kite]

gladd viewer

[lavish hedge]

Im a viewer of many

[frank kite]

[sacred pike]

the compatibility checker is actually such a solid idea

[silk kettle]

Haven't found it reported anywhere, but are missing badges on refresh (in chat history) an expected behavior? I think Chatterino does the same thing, is it due to some API restriction?

Also numbers with dot notation are rendered as hyperlink.

[kindred crown]

im starting to really enjoy using css grid instead of flexbox

much more flexible, ironically

but also more dank

but it makes building layouts like this way neater, less css rules and less containers needed

look how cum this is

[gentle ridge]

TRUE (I have no idea)

[kindred crown]

predictable layout is nice, i can do grid work first then i'll know exactly where everything is gonna be placed

the downside is responsiveness becomes less streamlined, but thats still relatively easy to deal with with media queries

[versed temple]

Custom highlights

[covert sparrow]

always been that way afaik

[steady dagger]

also only since you've been on v15+? Mine updated fine in the versions before that one

[narrow wind]

if v15

[versed temple]

Eyyyyy

[kindred crown]

im gonna have the modifier stuff completely hidden for now

i dont like it

if you have a supporting client, it's dogshit spam
if you don't have a supporting client, it's also dogshit spam

ain't no way im adding this shit in

other providers adding the worst features imaginable in order to stay relevant

[graceful oxide]

censorship

[versed temple]

Hide the terms like w! and h!

[kindred crown]

yeah thats what im doing

and ffz[x] as well

[versed temple]

Ffz also have modifiers?

[kindred crown]

yes they just added it

it's paywalled though

bttv's is free

i was gonna add support but i honestly think it's absolute dogshit and no one actually wanted this

every streamer i checked on so far has just said it's a crime against humanity and wishes they could get rid of it

[versed temple]

Hmm but blacklisting some of the terms might affect some emotes

const Flags = make_enum_flags(
    'Hidden',
    'FlipX',
    'FlipY',
    'GrowX',
    'GrowY',
    'ShrinkX',
    'ShrinkY',
    'Rotate45',
    'Rotate90',
    'Greyscale',
    'Sepia',
    'Rainbow',
    'HyperRed',
    'Shake',
    'Cursed',
    'Jam',
    'Bounce'
);

[kindred crown]

if support is added, it'll likely be a default-off option

[graceful oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/forsen-epic-reaction-streamer-horse-gif-24885983

[versed temple]

ffz: dont use common terms as emotes
also ffz *uses common terms as emote effects*

[kindred crown]

yea im not sure i guess ffz needed to make money

but that feels like the least thought out addition possible

i wonder if they even considered what streamers would think of being able to have 9x wide emotes in chat

ah yes, an emote that takes an entire chat line. one single message can now take up the entire fucking chat box!

totally sane

[graceful oxide]

i can see it being blacklisted just because there is no chatterino support

[tardy grotto]

yes, plz get rid of that shit

[kindred crown]

its one of the things that id assume chatterino will never add as well

so yeah im gonna have it nuked

[frank kite]

exactly

its so bad

[tardy grotto]

adding a stupid feature without the option to turn it off completely

[frank kite]

[tardy grotto]

honestly, i'd rather add all of these terms to the automod

[versed temple]

what happen if you stack bttv and ffz emote modifiers

[versed temple]

anyone with ffz sub can check the name of the modifiers
maybe these are just flags not the actual modifier name used in chat

[kindred crown]

there is documentation for ffz modifiers now, i'll implement it
(by implement i mean filter it out)

[versed temple]

guh

[graceful oxide]

its like a separate emote

[kindred crown]

yeah its easy to get rid of

[kindred crown]

it'll take me like 5 mins once i get to it

should be in today's patch beta 18

every non-chatterino streamer boutta be switching to 7tv beta

[graceful oxide]

yeah thats how it looks like in chatterino

[kindred crown]

how it looks in beta 17 as well

[tardy grotto]

when youre at it, can you filter all of the new emotes that came from youtube?

[sacred pike]

NAAAAAAAILS

[tardy grotto]

like this one https://7tv.app/emotes/63e12d1890e9cc0a8488e685

yeah

[graceful oxide]

just do it with blacklisted terms

are you gonna add custom colors to all the highlights with like a color picker or something @kindred crown

[kindred crown]

yes

[tardy grotto]

yeah, i guess ill go through xqc's channel and blacklist all of these

[graceful oxide]

for new users, restricted etc as well?

[tardy grotto]

https://7tv.app/emotes/63dd4aad54caa117064f1428 they didnt even give it a name

[kindred crown]

yea

[tardy grotto]

[tardy grotto]

what if they use an alias

we ned to be able to blacklist emotes then i guess

[sacred pike]

face-orange-biting-nails

[versed temple]

gotta think carefully about the message regarding any 3rd party emote modifiers are blocked
or else it gon be like this

[kindred crown]

i mean there isnt really gonna be a message it's just not gonna render at all

this stuff is going to get blacklisted in most channels and within a week everyone will forget about it anyway

[versed temple]

#help-old #1011978838848311316

[sacred pike]

"These extensions have been flagged by the community for their copied features and poorly implemented chat modifiers. Because the content has been reviewed by 7TV we removed that shit. you're welcome"

[frank kite]

[kindred crown]

yeah help/bugs channel are gonna be a bit of battlefield next week

which is fine it's just gonna be the people with a bunch of obscure settings or malding that X minor thing doesnt work, they can just remove 7tv and use native twitch

the chads will know what's up and patiently wait for features to come online

[frank kite]

i cant wait for mfs to complain over emote modifiers

what a joke

[frank kite]

real

[kindred crown]

custom highlights WIP

[frank kite]

i think i might pag a little 🤔

[graceful oxide]

no webm support on ios

[frank kite]

[tardy grotto]

[versed temple]

The ffz one paid for those
They are gonna come

[frank kite]

well ofc

[versed temple]

Oh wait it's already happening
#help-old message

[frank kite]

thats on them for paying for the sub

[graceful oxide]

Can you bring back settings background blur as an extra setting

[kindred crown]

blur on settings menu causes gpu to go brrr

too large of a surface

especially if it's over a stream

[graceful oxide]

wasn’t an issue with v2 tho

just turn it off by default

[sacred pike]

back to v2

[kindred crown]

🤝 regex highlights

[frank kite]

holy hecking moly

[covert sparrow]

Of course you dislike this meta

[tardy grotto]

[kindred crown]

i added a couple more options there as well

everything seems to work i'll have all this out tonight for beta 18

uh beta 18 might be a release candidate

maybe not, maybe a couple more things i want to add in

probably ffz badges at least

[covert sparrow]

[steady dagger]

is it possible to have an option to also have highlights/mentions pinned to the top of the chat box until closed?

[covert sparrow]

mention tab

[kindred crown]

beta 18 is going live

[covert sparrow]

[molten notch]

"BetterTTV/FrankerFaceZ are now stripped from chat" does this mean war

[high geode]

Dumb question. Is it possible just to reverse engineer all BTTV/FFZ Features and add them all into 7TV?

I'd have lots of suggestion for it