developers

[pseudo rivet]

LULE

[paper plover]

cosmetic merge

[pseudo rivet]

idk if the site has been built since then then idk

id assume it has though

[boreal grove]

got a simple question. When someone with a 7tv identity ( paint / badge ) first messages in a chatroom, does it not always come up in the event api??? im only seeming to get when they use an emote. I'm probably missing something but

[pseudo rivet]

only if they post from a 7tv enabled client

clients create/maintain a "presence" in a chatroom when the user sends messages

which is what the service uses to determine when to send relevant data

if a client doesnt produce this

then it wont send any info

[boreal grove]

hmm i'm probably doing somethign wrong then. cause im only getting it when they posting an emote even with the 7tv client enabled

[pseudo rivet]

so like if someone talks from chatty or some other client without 7tv

or even on the site without 7tv installed

[boreal grove]

i'll figure it out, just making sure im not missing something

[pseudo rivet]

it wont be creating presences, and you wont get pushed their cosmetics

[paper plover]

so if i first message in the native twitch app, my cosmetic will never show up for others until i chat on a client with 7tv

[pseudo rivet]

yes exactly that

[paper plover]

[feral merlin]

can anyone review this PR https://github.com/SevenTV/Extension/pull/807

[pseudo rivet]

The code quality is unfortunately not really acceptable for usage into the extension

its extremely likely to break

with even the most minor changes to the site

[pseudo rivet]

I recommend doing some sort of actual query, just raw accessing massive chains of children is not only very unsafe, but also very unreliable

not to mention nearly unreadable for most people, its not very clear what that is actually doing

[feral merlin]

well i updated the code. now it gets the live indicator on the player to determine if it is live or vod.

[solemn widget]

@patent wing hey where can i find the read-only pusher websocket for a kick chat?

figured you'd probably know the most about this stuff

[patent wing]

Kick pusher id: eb1d5f283081a78b932c
Their cluster is us2
Once connected to the pusher websocket, you must subscribe to a chatroom by subscribing to chatrooms.{chatroomId}.v2
Then bind to App\\Events\\ChatMessageEvent for messages

To get chatroomId you must fetch this api https://kick.com/api/v2/channels/{username}

with username being the kick channel username

If you use pusher's pusher-js javascript package it would look something like this in typescript/javascript.

import Pusher from "pusher-js";

const chatroomId = 668; // xQc Chatroom

const pusher = new Pusher("eb1d5f283081a78b932c", {
      cluster: "us2"
});

const chat = pusher.subscribe(`chatrooms.${chatroomId}.v2`);

chat.bind("App\\Events\\ChatMessageEvent", (message: Kick.ChatMessage) => {
      // Message Recieve
});

chat.bind("App\\Events\\MessageDeletedEvent", (message: Kick.ChatMessageDelete) => {
      // Message Delete
});

chat.bind("App\\Events\\UserBannedEvent", (message: Kick.UserBanned) => {
      // User Ban
});

There are more events you can listen to, but these three are what you probably need.

Here are the typescript types if needed:

interface ChatMessageDelete {
    id: string;
    message: {
      id: string;
    };
  }

interface UserBanned {
  id: string;
  user: {
    id: number;
    username: string;
    slug: string;
  };
  banned_by: {
    id: number;
    username: string;
    slug: string;
  };
  expires_at: string;
}

interface ChatMessage {
  id: string;
  chatroom_id: number;
  content: string;
  type: string;
  created_at: string;
  sender: {
    id: number;
    username: string;
    slug: string;
    identity: {
      color: string;
      badges: Badge[];
    };
  };
}

interface Badge {
  type: string;
  text: string;
  count: number;
}

If you decide to use the normal websocket class instead which is a pain in the ass the url is wss://ws-us2.pusher.com/app/eb1d5f283081a78b932c?protocol=7&client=js&version=7.6.0&flash=false
Pusher docs: https://pusher.com/docs/channels/getting_started/javascript/

[frosty bronze]

I created a pure websocket version, but yeah it’s not as clean. Also it disconnects after 1-2 hours of no activity (which I can’t tell if it’s me or the server)

I stopped working on it because without a chat api it’s not super useful at the moment

[solemn widget]

damn that's a lot of shit

ah right there's a pusher java client

[patent wing]

Also, the kick api has cloudflare protection so you need to bypass it by doing some tls handshake spoofing or by using a headless browser like puppeteer.

Hopefully whatever your doing doesnt require the api because it is a big pain in the ass if its not through browser requests like that is the reason why my chat overlay can fetch the api without getting blocked by cloudflare.

[solemn widget]

did you try to solve that with your uhh desktop kick app

[patent wing]

my kick client run on webview which is basiclly a browser lol it handles all the tls handshakes

[solemn widget]

i mean yeah

you had done it with egui before though

[patent wing]

nope, that was the main problem. I was using the chatroom id as a constant. I never made api requests

[solemn widget]

ahh ok ok

makes sense

are there any timelines for when the public api releases

[frosty bronze]

soon ™️

[patent wing]

^

they have been saying in a couple weeks for months

you can register here for whenever it goes public if you havent already: https://developers.kick.com/

[frosty bronze]

I think they're only going to open it up to a handle of apps

[solemn widget]

in the next few weeks.

lol that was like a month ago by now wasn't it

[patent wing]

yep hehe

[frosty bronze]

[patent wing]

👀 very early work in progress

[frosty bronze]

tauri nice

does the pusher js/ts client not disconnect after long periods? It might handle reconnection itself

[patent wing]

yeah i belive pusher-js handles reconnects

[solemn widget]

😎

[paper token]

"Unnamed Chat Client"

name it "Kock"

like Kick + Talk

KikTok

[patent wing]

[paper token]

Kickerino is already taken

UI looks nicer than chatterino tbh

[rotund pivot]

kok

Or kicksen

[patent wing]

its not exclusive to kick chats so something more unique would be needed

the ui is very very basic currently

a lot of work is to come

[rotund pivot]

[paper plover]

KikKok

[paper token]

yep

[frosty bronze]

Dank Kok

[frosty bronze]

any chance to get kick tab auto-complete fixed? https://github.com/SevenTV/Extension/pull/793

[paper token]

I would LOVE if that were fixed

[azure cape]

@hasty kernel @pseudo rivet

[solemn widget]

Lulw

shitty little kick app i'm working on

[analog oxide]

Does anyone have code to change colors in 7tv when writing a post?

[rotund pivot]

what

oh nvm

[analog oxide]

forget 😊

[zinc gyro]

where can i follow progress :)

[brave token]

Unnamed Chat Client is my favorite twitch chat client

oh it's cross platform

that's kinda sick

[tacit flame]

can anybody explain how to build install on arch I am a complete bot when it comes to building packages that do not exist on the AUR (edit: sorry, that don't have a buildpkg file to be exact), actually chatterino7 does exist on the AUR but its outdated, I figured asking in the discord the software sort of "belongs to" was the best idea, if you have any guides or guidance?

[pseudo rivet]

just use https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/chatterino2-7tv-git

it will still build a package for latest version

the version in the pkgbuild is just the last time the scripts had to be updated

it will automatically make a package with whatever the latest version is when you build the package

[tacit flame]

thanks!

[opal ledge]

How can I tell if an emote is supposed to be combined with other emotes (like RainTime)? It looks like in https://7tv.io/v3/emote-sets/global for those emotes there is "flags":1 and in data there is "flags":256 (whereas for other emotes both are 0). Which one should I use?

[paper token]

ngl I just want a -bin package

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/589013878818734090.webp?size=48&name=sadChamp&quality=lossless

I was using the chatterino2-bin AUR package and just changing the URL to the 7tv linux binary

until it stopped being built

but it looks like it's being built again, maybe

[novel otter]

Is it possible for 7tv to be converted to a userscript? If so how does one do this?

Some background I am trying to use 7TV in Safari on my Mac... (yes, I know you guys think I am gross) just like safari the most out of all the browsers I've used.

[pseudo rivet]

it is possible, but it has not been done yet

it would require some slight changes to the code but for the most part the new extension has been designed to allow for this

it just hasn't been gotten around to yet

if your looking for something you can do right now yourself, you may beable to get safari to load the webextension the way it is now with no changes

you'd just need to have the proper apple only tools to beable to create the right packages to allow for this

which none of our developers have, and why there isnt already a safari distribution

im not sure if there are user oriented tools that allow you to do this easily

but i would not be suprised if there are, its worth looking for sure if you're down to fiddle with things

[paper token]

I don't think you're gross

last I checked, Safari is the most power efficient browser on Macs

[pseudo rivet]

(obveously)

[paper token]

are you implying that Apple sandbags the other browsers somehow?

I don't think they do

but Safari leverages the tech in the system that it can expect to be there

hardware rendering and stuff

[novel otter]

I have gotten 7tv working by converting the chrome extension into a safari extension app running some commands with xcode but the damn application expires since. Since its a "beta" app. If we can find a way to get it onto to the app store I have no problem helping with updates. I have gotten it working on iOS and iPadOS as well in the past.

Safari is just well optimized for Apple devices "simple" as that lmao

[pseudo rivet]

well yeah they write all of the software stack it uses

so inherantly its going to be more efficiant

[paper token]

assume the dev teams are competent

which they are not always

[pseudo rivet]

you could probably work around this by just setting up a script that runs with a cron task to automatically rebuild it when it would expire

its not ideal, but I don't think distributing on apple's ecosystem is something that is viable for us at the moment

but if you did write such a script, im sure people would be glad to use it if you made it public

[frosty bronze]

what is the benefit of a userscript over the extension? portability?

[pseudo rivet]

pretty much

the current extension was designed to allow for distributing as a userscript at some point

the core code doesn't really care that it was injected as part of an extension

[novel otter]

I'd have to look into that I am not familiar with writing scripts whatsoever just kinda handy with running commands

[pseudo rivet]

except for some minor stuff

[frosty bronze]

here run this command sudo rm -rf /

[pseudo rivet]

le epic troll

[novel otter]

and just like that I have it working... fully functional

I might have found a way to "distribute" the extension but I will have to look more into it.

[paper token]

very nice

[frosty bronze]

ah I didn't realize the behavior of the chat boxes were different between twitch and kick

need to investigate the up arrow behavior

yeah up/down arrow behavior is wonky too

[frosty bronze]

Here's a shortlist of what I found thus far:

• When colon active, pressing Enter to select emote will send cursor to next line
• (assuming there is a history buffer, i.e. you've sent previous messages) Pressing Down arrow when the input is empty will return the first message on the history instead of clearing the input
• Index ordering of the history when pressing Up Arrow will skip the first message in the history and go to second message

[lethal jackal]

Finally I don't need to care about destroying my 16th PR bajj with a private repo

[frosty bronze]

so the stale PRs that were closed... should I make a new PR to revive them?

[carmine zephyr]

Is there a way to query the api to get the global emotes?

for people who are looking for this in the future, it's just /emote-sets/global

[drifting timber]

Hey can anyone help? How to get 7tv kick emotes of a Kick.com channel? I tried:

https://7tv.io/v3/users/{kickuser.id}```

ayo ok got it now after a search, sorry
/v3/users/{connection.name}/{connection.id}

I suppose this is the new endpoint? I am still using https://api.7tv.app/v2/users/${twitch.channelId}/emotes for twitch 7tv emotes. Is it soon to be discontinued or why are there two endpoints now? I tried https://api.7tv.app/v3/users/kick/kickid and it also works but takes much longer to load

[crude crag]

Hey everyone. I hope someone could help me out with this.

I'm developing a Chrome extension that includes injecting a button to the twitch page. Now I'm stumbling upon the issue that 7tv seems to remove the button after a couple of second after the page onload. Anyone that has the capability to find what is causing this?

[pseudo rivet]

are you actually patching react?

its not 7tv thats causing this, this is just twitch rerendering the component

which may be being triggered by some other 7tv change, but if this is the case this will happen any time twitch does this

not just alongside 7tv

ex. your button will probably also dissapear if the channel changes titles or etc

anything that would cause a rerender will cause your manually inserted elements to drop

patching the actual components is quite a bit trickier

and evenmoreso for the component you've chosen to change, since I believe its a functional component

which makes it virtually unpatchable unless you find some other referential backdoor

that you can use in some way

[hasty kernel]

api.7tv.app and /v2 are discontinued and going away November 1st, use 7tv.io/v3

[lethal jackal]

any recommended IRC message parser package?

I always create my own with limited parsing capabilities. Just wondered because seeing that most tools creates their own parsers instead of using a parser package.

[solemn widget]

if you want just pure parsing and nothing else

https://github.com/osslate/irc-message/tree/master

if you want to connect directly to twitch without any fuckery, you can try using this (not sure if it'll work for your usecase though)

https://github.com/KararTY/dank-twitch-irc/tree/master

[crude crag]

@pseudo rivet Appreciate the response. I'll look further into this. The reason behind me blaming 7tv is that disabling the add-on prevented this issue, but I might have been too quick with the blame then.

[unborn plinth]

~~Does 7TV have a standalone JS/CDN? I've got a standalone Electron Twitch client and would definitely enjoy 7tv in it ~~i should have just scrolled up a bit and read the channel history, nevermind 🙂

[noble meteor]

so how do you change value of chat input? im currently trying to figure it out

[pseudo rivet]

exactly the way the extension does it

the extension is just interfacing with twitch's built in system

which exposes mutation via a .apply method

[noble meteor]

@pseudo rivet I'm guessing there's no documentation on this?

[pseudo rivet]

its mostly all reverse engineered

so no

however you may find some usefulness by looking at the library twitch uses for the chat rendering

slate

you'll still have to reverse engineer out the specific methods and actions you can apply

but atleast you'll have a starting point

https://github.com/ianstormtaylor/slate/blob/2adda79e6521af59e91dbfc4fa1215cc109c1f16/packages/slate/src/interfaces/operation.ts

may not list all possible operations

but its a head start

[noble meteor]

i guess there is a lot of code to dig through

thank you!

[vague laurel]

My implementation has changed a little cus i have very specific use case: "I can throw out the entire content of the chat input and paste in my own"

If you are interested, here is my source code

https://github.com/CaptSiro/pasterino/blob/main/src/platform/twitch.tv/TwitchPlatform.ts (from line 46)

[quick ibex]

How does this work. You have some sort of widget where you select a copypasta and it inserts it into the chatbox?

[vague laurel]

yes, exactly like that

[quick ibex]

I believe the autocompleteinputref has a setInput function

In your case you could alternatively just send a chat message directly instead of using the input box

[vague laurel]

There is a feature that is just for me where that would not be possible

[quick ibex]

Dosnt look like we have it listed on our twitch.d.ts tho~
nvm we do

[vague laurel]

could you explain to me the autocompleteinputref im not familiar with it

[quick ibex]

export type ChatAutocompleteComponent = ReactExtended.WritableComponent<
        {
            channelID: string;
            channelLogin: string;
            clearModifierTray: () => void;
            clearTray: () => void;
            clearReplyToList: () => void;
            closeCard: () => void;
            closeKeyboardReplyTray: () => void;
            currentUserDisplayName: string;
            currentUserID: string;
            currentUserLogin: string;
            emotes: TwitchEmoteSet[];
            isCurrentUserEditor: boolean;
            isCurrentUserModerator: boolean;
            isCurrentUserStaff: boolean;
            messageBufferAPI: any;
            onFocus: (v: any) => any;
            onKeyDown: (v: any) => any;
            onMatch: (e: any, t: any, i: any) => any;
            onReset: (v: any) => any;
            onValueUpdate: (v: any) => any;
            setInputValue: (v: any) => any;
            setModifierTray: (v: any) => any;
            setReplyToList: (v: any) => any;
            setTray: (v?: ChatTray) => any;
            showModerationIcons: boolean;
            showTimestamps: boolean;
            tray: any;
            useHighContrastColors: boolean;
        },
        {
            value: string;
        }
    > & {
        focus: () => void;
        selectionStart: number;
        setSelectionRange: (start: number, end: number) => void;
        componentRef: Twitch.ChatInputComponent;
        getMatches: (v: string, ...args: []) => object[];
        providers: ChatAutocompleteProvider[];
        onEditableValueUpdate: (value: string, sendOnUpdate: boolean | undefined) => void;
        getValue: () => string;
        setValue: (v: string) => void;
    };

Some of these could be typed better

But i setValue is what twitch uses when it wants to replace what is in the input box

So just invoke setValue instead of onChange unless there is something im missing

[vague laurel]

interesting, i will maybe try it out

[quick ibex]

I think your ChatInput type is our ChatAutocompleteComponent

[vague laurel]

I think it is Twitch.ChatInputComponent

because of this function in my src:

    getChatInputReact(): ChatInput {
        return this.getAutocompleteHandler()?.componentRef;
    }

but thanks for the insight, right now my patch solution works as i need so i dont feel like changing the implementation unless there is something I'm missing

[quick ibex]

Do you not block out normal typing in the input box after inserting a pasta?

[vague laurel]

no

because there are 2 ways to input the copy pasta

I can either press Enter or click on the copypasta in the widget

if i press Enter it will be sent automatically

but if i click it will only be insterted into the chat input

after enter

after clicking

[quick ibex]

nice

[noble meteor]

its pretty much the same thing i wanted to do so it will help me a lot. thanks!

[rancid tulip]

what language is 7tv written with? c++?

java

html css

[pseudo rivet]

golang and typescript

[misty olive]

[rancid tulip]

gofur

[patent wing]

java

[daring quail]

wait, so there are documented endpoints that don't actually work, and undocumented ways to get that info?

[paper plover]

devs are working on a rework of the endpoint
as of right now, we uses gql for most of the query instead of the rest api documented in 7tv.io since it has limited usage
but after the rework, the gql endpoint will not be used anymore and the rest api will get more functionality

[daring quail]

right, but why even bother including them in the docs if they don't work and keep pointing people there? Took a bunch of testing on my end and then digging through random messages to find one that finally told me they don't work

[pseudo rivet]

this is not entirely correct

as of right now only the website uses gql

which is why it will be going away once the website is rewritten

no other client, internal or third party uses gql

and it is not supported for third party use

generally

[charred rover]

Hi All ... am new here but would like to understand how you/7TV protect content to contain malware when uploaded? If I am not wrong even anonymous could participate uploading content, correct? Thank you

[hasty kernel]

Elaborate

You need an account to upload emotes we don't allow anonymous uploads

[solemn widget]

all emotes pass through transcoding at a point

anything not important gets stripped away

even if you could upload as anonymous you wouldn't be able to put anything in it

[paper plover]

What kind of malware you can put in images anyways

[pseudo rivet]

none

unless your on a computer from 1995

(which wouldnt support modern image formats anyways)

(back when literally all data was trusted and buffer overruns were acceptable and also data was allowed to be executed by the cpu)

all you had to do was make the image overflow the buffer

and add a jump opcode

and you could execute anything

but it has not been like this for a very long time

it would be incredibly rare

a catastrophic failure of modern standards

like complete incompetence

[quick ibex]

A major exploit in libwebp was discovered last week, so any browser not updated recently is currently vunerable

[paper plover]

https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2023-4863

[pseudo rivet]

FeelsGoodMan

Either way though what I said above is still true

It's not RCE so it's not 'malware'

It could probably do serous damage on the site though

it would be much much harder to simoultaniously leverage this into code execution

and then on top of that a sandbox escape

[tidal current]

Is there any ETA for the gql api docs to come out?

[topaz crown]

I'm pretty sure they dont intend to put out docs since its meant for internal use, not public.

I believe i heard they are moving towards REST endpoints which will take over the gql ones somewhat soon, and gql will be dropped.

[tidal current]

peepoSad

[paper plover]

soon

[tidal current]

[paper plover]

what exactly do you want to do?
you can check the gql usage in the 7tv site by inspecting the gql queries (e.g. search emote for example)

[pseudo rivet]

No GQL API's are officially supported for third party usage

and as stated above they will be dropped sometime in the near future

potentially without notice

[topaz crown]

[pseudo rivet]

however currently it is the only way to do mutations for a ex a bot or service

these applications are still not supported though, as there is no current mechanism to obtain a token for usage

[random venture]

Hey, was there any attempt at fixing https://github.com/SevenTV/Extension/issues/635 ?

I tried looking into it, but I can't seem to find the issue

At the moment I am using stylus to get the default scrollbar, but it's not ideal, thank you

[lethal jackal]

I am trying to dm @rancid tendon

[frosty bronze]

how’s the development of the new site going?

[orchid tide]

there's no api route to add emotes to a set, right?

[topaz crown]

there is, but its not officially supported and will be changed soon

[orchid tide]

ah, i guess through the graphql api?

[paper plover]

yes
you can check the gql requests in the developer console
but as mentioned, gql will not be publicly available and will move on to use REST api instead

so you can just do gql now for the lols, but note that it will not work after the system is updated

[brave token]

we probably will keep the gql api as is for now, but will move over to REST, and just no longer update the gql api until it breaks

so if you decide to play around with it, you'll have some time to move over to the upcoming rest api before it's removed

[short sand]

Can't install deps with npm for the website

[paper plover]

problem with fontawesome package?

[short sand]

Yea actually

I tried relogging in to npm and doing that config delete and still issues

[paper plover]

        "@fortawesome/free-brands-svg-icons": "^6.2.1",
        "@fortawesome/free-regular-svg-icons": "^6.2.1",
        "@fortawesome/free-solid-svg-icons": "^6.2.1"
    },```
gotta change the packages to free ones since some icons are paid

and have to change some icons in the site as well

[short sand]

Ah shit okay I'll take a look, thanks for the info

[paper plover]

a bit pain in the ass to do
but im not paying for it

[short sand]

Yea

[paper plover]

https://github.com/SevenTV/Website/compare/dev...WaterBoiledPizza:Website:freefontawesome
this one is from a while ago
not sure if anything has changed

[short sand]

That's more than I expected, okay thank you

[short sand]

CORS

[short sand]

Messing about and I'm not seeing how avatar_url is undefined within UserCard depending on the parent component/page.

I'm successfully retrieving the user data and specifically avatar_url whenever I'm on EmoteRoot or /users/. avatar_url is defined on render.

I'm successfully retrieving the user data but avatar_url is returning undefined whjenever I'm on EmoteCard or /emotes/. To clarify, the network call is successfully returning and the value for avatar_url is there, but whenever I try accessing it on render it's undefined

[pseudo rivet]

don't bother messing about with the old website code

[short sand]

Why?

[pseudo rivet]

its not worth trying to mess with

its being completely replaced

[short sand]

Oh...

Well shit

Any ETA?

[pseudo rivet]

not quite sure but probably sometime within the following months

[short sand]

or rather are you all even accepting PRs now?

[pseudo rivet]

its not currently in a workable state

but development is happening at SevenTV/WebsiteNext

and SevenTV/WebComponents

[short sand]

next still vue

To clarify I meant PRs for the current site not the refactored

[pseudo rivet]

uh I mean if they're working I don't see why they wouldnt be accepted

[short sand]

[pseudo rivet]

but Its probably not worth putting effort into

something that's going to be replaced

the codebase for the current site as im sure you've noticed

is not the cleanest

[short sand]

Meh I'm just working on QoLs

[pseudo rivet]

or the nicest to work with

[short sand]

I can't comment on it much, my gripe is with not being familiar with Vue moreso than the codebase

[paper token]

speaking of QoLs that shouldn't have effort put into due to the website being replaced in 2025, I've been working on a doc that contains some outstanding bugs that I would personally like to see fixed

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QuEQS5PaOPrTBm7WLcu8byqN8vTxEhN0fY9Mzaj5X6A/edit?usp=sharing

either because they affect me personally or it's annoying a lot of users

[paper token]

updated this doc

[solemn widget]

@pseudo rivet are you currently implementing ssr for web components?

[pseudo rivet]

for what?

I don't think its really applicable here

ssr is mostly a hack for when you need compatibility with non js agents

there aren't any benifits for agents that do support js (since the hydration step is computationally equivalent to if you just started from scratch)

and I think the vast majority of the user base are using modern browsers

for an emote platform that relies on js to run in the first place

the website isnt really static content either, I dont think ssr makes a whole lot of sense here

the webcomponents packages are being built to be consumed explicitly by the extension and the website

neither of which will be using SSR

SSR isn't really something that would be viable for us anyways

its massively server intensive

for very little benifit in our case

[pseudo rivet]

(the server is basically emulating a browser fetching its own page, running that JS and then serializing it afterwards)

only for the client to then do the exact same thing again

but for it to do this it does have to run an entire virtual dom and javascript vm that gets spun up for each and every request

its very much a hack

imo, it doesn't really make sense in the current state of the web for 90% of usecases

because almost all of the usecases where ssr would actually be benificial

for example in the case of static content, universal/at build time pre-rendering is a much preferred option

but in our case almost all of our content is dynamic

[solemn widget]

I was just wondering what the hydrate part was in the webcomponents repo

[pseudo rivet]

ah

its for the API wrapper

all values the wrapper will return are hydrated

meaning all their prototypes match and are checked

an emote set will always contain actual emote objects

that can be used in other parts of the wrapper

or have methods

directly on them

[solemn widget]

yeah but is hydration the right term for this

[pseudo rivet]

barely

but its close enough

its not a type checker

its scope is explicitly limited to "hydrating" objects

for example an input object's children cant be mapped to other keys

its direct

.x on the input value can only affect .x on the output hydrated type

[solemn widget]

So a validator I guess?

[pseudo rivet]

ish

not really though

it can be used to validate

but by actual emote objects I mean in this case actual classes

from json input to fully typed class output

this also lets us do things for the wrapper like allowing subscribing directly from objects

and allowing in place mutability

because all types have a runtime stable schema

[solemn widget]

So like this? https://github.com/samchon/typia

[pseudo rivet]

yeah there are definately equivalents

[solemn widget]

Fdm

Yeah makes sense though

[pseudo rivet]

this fits our use cases though

and is extremely small

like 80% of all that junk

is just for typescript

the original implementation was like 100 lines

[solemn widget]

Was just wondering because I've heard that web components are pretty limited

In what you can do with them

[pseudo rivet]

the webcomponents package is also a bad name

ignore my names

they're not actually webcomponents

they're just components for the web

horrible name

[solemn widget]

[pseudo rivet]

webcomponents is a standard

but we're not actually using webcomponents

most of the "components" are vue

[solemn widget]

Fdm

[pseudo rivet]

the packages in /webcomponents dont have to be used on the web either

they're just npm packages

they're named that because all of our uses of them will be on the web

in the webextension and website

[paper token]

internet pieces

[solemn widget]

Tauri mobile 7tv app is coming

[paper token]

first party Chatsen style app

with integrated twitch and kick viewing

with adblocker

[solemn widget]

[pseudo rivet]

anyways

@solemn widget hopefully something like this better illustrates why its more of a "hydrator"

than a validator

even though it also inherantly does validation

notice how each member becomes fully instantiated

(this is also just for illustrative purposes, that new() at the bottom would throw immediately and wouldn't actually produce a valid emoteset object)

[solemn widget]

Disgusting oop js

Do you actually need the typeofs for the generics?

[pseudo rivet]

no

that's the typescript part

without it the code is functionally identical at runtime

but you wont get intelisense

[solemn widget]

[pseudo rivet]

its weird js/ts dankness

typeof Class in typescript means that classes' constructor

which is also its static side

classes in typescript occupy the same symbol with two distinct values

the type sharing the name of the class refers to its instantiated type

saying "typeof" forces typescript to use the type of the VALUE under that symbol

which is itself the constructor function

[solemn widget]

Oh I see that makes sense yeah

[pseudo rivet]

which also contains the static side of the class

so by adding that <typeof ThisClass> you're telling typescript

that this is the final extension

and the values defined by this classes' static fields

is the one the constructor will ultimately read

saying as const allows the compiler to know for certain the values will never change

allowing the dank inference stuff in hydrator.d.ts to work

a schema like { type: "array", children: "boolean" } produces the typescript type boolean[]

but you can also do recursion

the children field of a schema can accept any other schema

you can also do conditional parsing

a schema like { type: "array", children: current => typeof current == "string" : "string" : "number" }

will be typed as Array<string | number>

and at runtime will run the transformer for the unparsed value

transformers run before hydration

so this value [1, "2", 3] would be accepted

[solemn widget]

What is this, fucking eventapi?

[pseudo rivet]

yes

this will also integrate with the eventapi wrapper

for example if you want to have live updates for an emote in a set

you can just say eventapi.subscribe(set.emotes[4])

and only that emote will receive updates

in place

if you dont want inplace updates

you can do .clone() first

[solemn widget]

In place as in mutating?

[pseudo rivet]

yeah

mutability is not implemented in what is pushed

but it will be a seperate base class

not all hydratorobjects are mutable ones

[solemn widget]

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh fdm

[pseudo rivet]

it will likely be HydratorObject -> APIObject -> APIObjectMutable

mutable classes having their own methods for generating eventapi subscription conditions

[solemn widget]

I'd rather have the ability to just set a callback which would execute on update

[pseudo rivet]

well yeah thats also how it will work

you can just subscribe to a condition manually

this is just a helper

so places in the website can use composable's and never care about the actual implementation details

[solemn widget]

Yeah that makes sense

[pseudo rivet]

the emote set page doesn't care at all about how to subscribe to emotes

[solemn widget]

It would have "no logic"

[pseudo rivet]

or how to mutate their data

[solemn widget]

Would the emote set be the current active emote set? What if the user changes the emote set to an entirely different one?

[pseudo rivet]

it depends how you fetch the data

some of this makes sense only for the website side

[solemn widget]

Yeah the mutating part for example

[pseudo rivet]

in the case of that example

where the user changes emote sets

the emote set data would not change

because an emoteset class represents a specific object

but the UserConnection object

would reflect that change

its emote_set field would be replaced with a new EmoteSet object

this is already how the eventapi represents these changes iirc anyways

[solemn widget]

Yeah that makes sense I think

[pseudo rivet]

i also intend to allow passing a callback that receives the changemap

when subscribing to objects

this is where you'd gather application specific information

like figuring out what message to display to the user

after a mutation

the hydrator implementation doesnt care about this type of application specific usage

it just generalizes the mutation and subscription of certain types

to be more useful as a "wrapper"

[solemn widget]

Mhm yeag

[vagrant marsh]

Hello, is 7tv.io API working?

[plush sandal]

would you guys want me to update 7tv.io ui it’s so bad rn

[paper plover]

Wait until the API update drops

[plush sandal]

will do

[ashen smelt]

https://7tv.app/emotes/6308318fb5644c9aa12488cd This emote has several versions uploaded, but trying to add any of them to a channel always adds the oldest version for me. can anyone else see if this happens for them as well?

can easily tell by the speed of the emote

[topaz crown]

ive had this happen and after restarting chatterino it was the right version, idk if its the same issue

[ashen smelt]

i see it in both chatterino and the browser chat

[topaz crown]

i just added it and the slow one shows in native chat, fast one in chatterino

[ashen smelt]

interesting

you're using the 7tv extension or do you have 7tv emotes enabled through ffz

[topaz crown]

7tv extension

[ashen smelt]

same for me, wonder why it's different

[topaz crown]

yeah its weird. they are technically seperate emotes too, since the emote ids are different

[ashen smelt]

yeah, it shows me the original emote ID too

[topaz crown]

my chatterino shows the fast one but the url for it is the slow one

[ashen smelt]

thanks for checking

[topaz crown]

classic seven televisions

[real sorrel]

not a chatterino bug last time i checked we get the first version sent and optimistically add it; you don't need to restart chatterino - wait for a few minutes for 7tv's cache to expire and press F5

also please report issues on github - it's a bit more visible

[polar gull]

Did some poor googling, but couldn't find it on the 7tv site but is it possible to implement 7tv directly in my app instead of relying on users to have the extension installed?

[rotund pivot]

https://7tv.io/docs

[polar gull]

Awesome, thanks you!

[west grail]

Is there any way to replace Emotes in a string?

For example you have "Hey LULE FeelsOkayMan" and you get a HTML Element with the Emotes as Images replaced?

[brazen marlin]

Hey there everyone! Is 7tv open source? I would love to make some contributions to the codebase

[paper plover]

https://github.com/SevenTV

[brazen marlin]

Awesome, I appreciate it! I'll take a look

Which team here works on the project?

I'd love to collab on some of the work

[paper plover]

Keep in mind that the devs are working on a big update to the website
so any pr under website would most likely wont be accepted since those wont be relevant after the big update

what do you want to work on specifically

[brazen marlin]

I'm happy to help wherever I can, I specialize in frontend, been doing it for about 7 years professionally

UI/UX

[paper plover]

not sure if devs need help with the website now
but i guess you can get yourself familiar with it first https://github.com/SevenTV/Website

[paper plover]

you can check these out for the Website:
https://github.com/SevenTV/WebsiteNext
https://github.com/SevenTV/WebComponents

[paper token]

also apparently these aren't real "WebComponents"

It's just coincidentally named

[brazen marlin]

sus, Also is the api down entirely?

[paper plover]

what do you mean by that

[paper plover]

wait nevermind
it's just a hello world

[brazen marlin]

Web extensions and chatterino are not loading out

edit: ok nevermind it's up now

[paper plover]

recently event api outage happens more frequently at this time of day

https://status.7tv.app/

[paper plover]

WHAT'S WebsiteNext ABOUT

[woeful basin]

how can i get it for firefox brwoser

?

[plush sandal]

leaves

[patent wing]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/256957885420929034/1045029505619726395/hmm.gif

[frosty bronze]

Melonify Anatole - can I provide QA for new website?

[paper plover]

new website: hello world

[pseudo rivet]

^

[paper token]

The H in "hello world" should be a capitalized

[solemn widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1046326820389273600.gif?size=48&name=mhm&quality=lossless

[frosty bronze]

[plush sandal]

do you guys have issues with requests taking longer than normal

[topaz crown]

yeah most requests have been taking like 3 seconds recently

for me

[pseudo rivet]

infra is not doing well

for a little bit now

[plush sandal]

yeah if an emote doesn't load fast enough it just doesn't load at all ever

feel like it should retry after a little bit if it times out

[plush sandal]

any clue why?

[paper token]

that's what I want to know

I've always wondered if the "no cache" would have problems in the future

since cache usually exists for a reason

but I don't know much about networking stuff so I just trust the experts

[plush sandal]

wait no cache wdym?

if nothing for 7tv is being cached that could be the issue, but then it shouldn't take that long to load a website from scratch lol

takes 10seconds-1 minute everytime i've went to it in the past few months

[paper token]

yes but there are many thousands of other people also trying to load the website these days

in my mind, that sounds like a bad time

but IDK how it's set up

do I look like I know what the heck a CDN is?

[plush sandal]

lol yeah i don't know much about it either however i am curious

[frosty bronze]

[keen elk]

forsen

[paper plover]

Does the new api allows searching user by connections?

[lethal jackal]

Hello there,
Wondering if it is possible to get Emotes by name with the 7TV API ?
Tried going with "https://7tv.io/v3/emotes/reckH" or "https://7tv.io/v3/emotes?reckH" for example but it does not work. Only IDs seem to do it.
Getting "[{"id":"","name":"","owner":null,"visibility":0,"visibility_simple":null,"mime":"","status":0,"tags":null,"width":null,"height":null,"urls":null}]"

I'm currently trying to display 7TV emotes within a StreamElements chat widget. Does anyone know a way?
The default SE Chat widget doesn't currently show them, unfortunately 😦

Thank you!

[paper plover]

not all of the documented REST api works
the REST api will fully be usable in the future

you might try the GQL api, but it wont work in the future once the REST api is completed

[hasty kernel]

Why would you need to do that?

[lethal jackal]

Thank you for your responses,
Well, 7TV emotes are not being spotted by the StreamElements event listeners (unlike BTTV and FFZ). So I thought about checking for emote names in chat messages to get them via the API and display them if found. Or maybe there's a better solution?

[hasty kernel]

Uhh yea there is definitely a better solution lol that's a terrible idea

Simply get the appropriate emote sets and use the event api for live updates

https://github.com/seventv/eventapi

[lethal jackal]

Oh right, wasn't aware of the EventAPI, thank you for this

[paper plover]

how does the chat detect emote usage anyways
is it if chat message contains word from emote set, change text to corresponding emote image?

[lethal jackal]

Yes, that was the idea. As dumb and inefficient as it sounds ^^

[pseudo rivet]

the emote set data returned from the api will contain all of the information you need to render an emote

if you know an emote is in the set, then you should also already have everything neccissary

including image urls etc

there is no need to query the api, you'll just get the same data you already have

[lethal jackal]

Yes, thank you, I got it working with the emote set query 🙂

[inland whale]

Where to find global tag for obtaining global smiles?

i found everything in the chat

[ocean pelican]

Hi guys, I just joined. Im going to the point. I was using the Zaytri chat bubbles you maybe know there is no support for 7tv on that extension, but was really easy to modify the code and add it, was almost prepared.

Now im trying to adapt it to the v3 api.

...
sevenTV: {
    api: 'https://7tv.io/v3/emote-sets/global',
    transformer: response => {
      const { emotes } = response
      return emotes.map(emote => emote.name)
    }
}
}```
```async function loadGlobalEmotes() {
  for (const [key, value] of Object.entries(GLOBAL_EMOTES)) {
    const { api, transformer } = value
    const response = await get(api)
    if (response != null) {
      Widget.globalEmotes[key] = transformer(response)
    }
  }
}```
```window.addEventListener('onWidgetLoad', async obj => {
  Widget.channel = obj.detail.channel
  loadFieldData(obj.detail.fieldData)
  loadGlobalEmotes()
  ...```

For some reason im not being able to draw the emotes. I like a lot this overlay chat, I would like to keep using it.
Sorry if this is a lot haha, im not sure what im doing. I can give more information if you think will be useful

[paper plover]

You know they made that just because they hate 7tv right?

This is the most big dick idea i've seen

[ocean pelican]

Yeah I know but the code is accessible and easy to modify hahaha

[paper plover]

HOOOOOLY

[ocean pelican]

I was using the v2 till some days ago

[paper plover]

yea v2 support is dropped today
#news message

[ocean pelican]

yeah but im not being able to render the emotes with v3, probably im missing something

[paper plover]

https://github.com/zaytri/stream-elements-widgets/commit/17a7790c45eee483fb29a31b28ad67c8420c01b2
how about if you reverse this commit

[ocean pelican]

Thats what I did using v2, just changed that false to true and was working

hahaha

but now with v3 I suppose we also need to change the way to recover the emots from the api, and thats what I was trying to do here
#developers message

I also changed the 7tv to sevenTV

[inland whale]

is it possible to catch personal emoji from a message on twitch?

or will have to check each user for the presence of personal emoji with a subscription

[rotund pivot]

#developers message

[pseudo rivet]

this is interesting backstory that I didnt know

so this is why they "care" so much

they implemented 7tv support in the beginning, but then decided after they didnt like it

but they felt like they needed to justify them implementing it

that'd be le epic troll though @ocean pelican

you'd need to change slightly the parser though

because the data formats are different between v2 and v3

but if you did and then made a pr for it that'd be

just fixing the support you never actually got rid of

[ocean pelican]

I agree that would be great trolling hahaha
but I dont want to cause any trouble, I just think that not having 7tv support in the chat extension is a ridiculous drama (and we can fix it)

[solemn widget]

if you pr'ed it that would make headlines for sure

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/543420576492945438.webp?size=48&name=PepeLaughW&quality=lossless

[frosty bronze]

Huh interesting lore

[paper token]

smh

idk how 1 guy gets to determine which emotes people can use

that's never a good thing imo

[ember crescent]

We're also aware of an elevated amount of slow or error responses, we are investigating and hope to provide a full resolution shortly.

Does this refer to the requests that coming back with "*UnknownEmote" response with as 200 code? Not sure if I should create an issue for this or not.

CC: @hasty kernel

[tall kayak]

Like a pokemon?

[plush sandal]

suggestion for the api - can you guys (or me) add some sort of example for each endpoint in the database so we can make the frontend easier for newcomers

was planning on updating the 7tvio frontend once the new update comes out

[sturdy scroll]

Is Melon roaming these halls atm?

[rotund pivot]

@pseudo rivet

[sturdy scroll]

bubu dares to ping him

[rotund pivot]

i bet youre gonna ask about the ffz addon

[sturdy scroll]

mabe

[rotund pivot]

melon stopped updating it long time ago

lordmau5 fixed some things months ago

[pseudo rivet]

they're actively working on a patch

[sturdy scroll]

Ohh it was him who fixed it

[pseudo rivet]

as of today

[rotund pivot]

[sturdy scroll]

[pseudo rivet]

for v3 cosmetics

[sturdy scroll]

Thanks for update Melon

[warm yacht]

Yes, I am working on a patch with the help of Melonify

Also hello gamers

I can't promise anything but so far I got basic namepaints and badges to work. Still need to do more testing, and also get proper emote sets + personal emotes working.
Maybe ready by the end of the week, but I can't promise anything

[solemn widget]

wtf pog

[cursive saffron]

[warm yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/well-there-it-is-jeff-goldblum-gif-14058551

[rotund pivot]

🐐

[quick spear]

[azure cape]

[half fractal]

Hi everyone! Hope you're having a wonderful monday!
I'm trying to integrate 7tv emotes in my custom chat but it doesn't work.

Can someone help me with the endpoint to get the emotes by name?

[rotund pivot]

https://7tv.io/docs

[half fractal]

Thanks!

[tough pasture]

I want to get the emotes available on a Twitch channel. Previously I used the https://api.7tv.app/v2/users/<twitch id>/emotes endpoint and I'm having trouble translating that to v3.

https://7tv.io/v3/users/<twitch id> returns empty, as does https://7tv.io/v3/users?query=<twitch id>

Am I using it wrong?

[solemn widget]

if you have a twitch id you can use the

https://7tv.io/v3/users/twitch/<twitch id> endpoint

@tough pasture

[tough pasture]

Worked immediately, thanks!

[solemn widget]

👍

[fallen sentinel]

hello im trying to download it on opera gx and it doesnt work

this in poland means download failure

[drifting timber]

The 7TV docs and website needs some minor update I think. Like a bit more information and all. Would be cool, since it lacks some information and a nicer look to it.

Not "It" btw

[fallen sentinel]

but i can download this at google chrome

only not on opera

[drifting timber]

@fallen sentinel I was not talking about your problem but about the 7tv dev docs and the poor state of the dev docs

Also if you are having issue with 7tv as a plugin, you are in the wrong channel as here it is for developers, working with the API of 7tv to build apps and shizz

[paper plover]

See #help-old message

Also please move to #help-old if you need help

[paper plover]

There will be a new REST api soon™️
So the doc will be updated by then

For now, if you just want to test out stuffs, you can try GQL
It is not documented in 7tv.io, but you can check its usage in the Network tab under the developer console
Note that GQL will be dropped when the new REST api comes out

[drifting timber]

@paper plover petition to only change the api or url max once every 2 years after this

[hollow oyster]

api extremely slow for anyone else?

[fringe furnace]

api extremely slow for anyone else?

[patent wing]

[plush sandal]

is 7tv.io needing a ui update now? i will get started if so

[rancid tulip]

F*ck 7tv, all my homies hate 7tv

[rotund pivot]

that’s the last thing that needs an update

[plush sandal]

only thing i do tho lol and it’s kinda shit rn

[rotund pivot]

It’s gonna be updated when the whole website gets updated

the dev page is like the lowest priority atm

[paper plover]

we are getting the api update anytime soon right?

[strange owl]

[static olive]

How can I add emotes to a special emote set using the API?

[topaz crown]

you'd need to use the gql api which isn't documented but viewable from the f12 network tab

[static olive]

do you have a link for me?

[topaz crown]

7tv.app

press f12

navigate to the network tab

[static olive]

Are there any examples or is there nothing at all?

[topaz crown]

yeah and theres that

[static olive]

okay

Are there examples for the REST API? I didn't really get any further with the docs

[brave token]

We're working on updating the REST API

Until then the gql api is kinda your only option, but it's a bad option

[topaz crown]

[paper plover]

no there's no example for it right now since it wasnt meant for public use in the first place
and it will be removed when the upgraded rest api is implemented

but if you want to implement it now
head over to the developer console -> network tab -> filter with gql
simply do an action, e.g.: im am adding the emote https://7tv.app/emotes/638767f24cc489ef45239272 into my set https://7tv.app/emote-sets/60ae3cb1b2ecb0150521fa1f
and check the gql request payload to see how to request the change

then just request that gql packet in whatever program you want to use:

• python: https://gql.readthedocs.io/en/stable/usage/basic_usage.html
• js: https://graphql.org/graphql-js/

[brave token]

I'll say it again, I really don't recommend using the GQL API. It'll probably be completely disabled in a matter of months

[paper plover]

but there's no other way to do it now

[topaz crown]

is there expected to be any buffer period between the updated REST and the GQL being disabled

[brave token]

Yes, but not much, since it's not meant for public use

About as long as it takes us to move the website & extension over to REST once it's ready

[static olive]

but an exact date for the update is not yet known?

[brave token]

Nope

[patent wing]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/627c94f449607a2d9d9b5a76/4x.gif

[topaz crown]

is there going to be like an announcement when the api is released, prior to the website/extension migrating to the new requests? So we have time to migrate as well?

[paper plover]

there was a grace period from v2 api to v3 api migration
surely they will do the same by that time

[topaz crown]

well he just mentioned they likely wont

[pearl ore]

Is the EventAPI working as usual? My requests are kinda being denied because of CORS

Or is it this https://github.com/SevenTV/EventAPI/issues/121 ?

Pretty sure it's the 503 but CORS bad

[patent wing]

event api is down for event stream but is working fine on websocket. I'm having the same issue I think. Status code 524 for my kick chat overlay.

[plush sandal]

dis happens a lot for me no idea why

every time i visit the site

on desktop

[humble rose]

having a problem with the websocket version - if i send a twitch entitlement request, such as {"op":35,"d":{"type":"entitlement.*","condition":{"ctx":"channel","platform":"TWITCH","id":"548015560"}}}, i get the expected {"op":5,"t":1701552613625,"d":{"command":"SUBSCRIBE","data":{"id":2368589574,"type":"entitlement.*","condition":{"ctx":"channel","id":"548015560","platform":"TWITCH"}}}} back, but if i try the same for kick, such as {"op":35,"d":{"type":"entitlement.*","condition":{"ctx":"channel","platform":"KICK","id":9508143}}}, the connection drops on me. no idea what youtube does

do kick IDs need to be strings?

looks like that is the case - which is kind of anoying since the https://kick.com/api/v2/channels/[CHANNEL_NAME] request returns integers

[brave token]

considering you put the twitch id as a string, probably?

[humble rose]

twitch IDs, despite always being numeric, are still strings everywhere. kick ids are actual integers

but since youtube ids are also strings, i get why that was kind of the expected data type

[brave token]

I checked, we use strings for all ID's internally

[humble rose]

good to know

[brave token]

At least in our database, surely that carries over to the API & event API

[jade sundial]

is there a figma for the sites design somewhere? i kinda wnna experiment a little

[brave token]

there is one for the new upcoming redesign, but idk if that one's public or not

[jade sundial]

rip

[humble rose]

i'm not receiving any subscribe ACKs from the SSE server. yes to heartbeats, though

example requesting url: https://events.7tv.io/v3@user.*%3Cobject_id%3D61cb91e40bf63003719445cb%3E%2Cemote.*%3Cobject_id%3D61cb91e40bf63003719445cb%3E%2Cemote_set.*%3Cobject_id%3D61cb91e40bf63003719445cb%3E

[patent wing]

yep its broken, just tried it.
https://events.7tv.io/v3@entitlement.*%3Cctx=channel;platform=KICK;id=676%3E,cosmetic.*%3Cctx=channel;platform=KICK;id=676%3E,emote_set.*%3Cobject_id=612bbd809d60d44d5240b3dc%3E
no subscribe

[humble rose]

also tried with a single emote.* request for simplicity

[patent wing]

[humble rose]

ayooooo

👍

[pearl ore]

EventAPI works, finally

[somber tendon]

Sup, quick question about the V3 endpoints that take query params, can't wrap my head around to how the they look like, V2 example would be https://api.7tv.app/v2/users/{channelID}/emotes
V3 says that the channel Id is a query param, but I have not figured out the name of the param to be passed yet
https://7tv.io/v3/users?query=XXXXXX
https://7tv.io/v3/users?channelId=XXXXXX

no clue

nvm, seen a comment on this channel, so it should include the platform, but yeah, couldnt figure it out solely from the docs

Ex: https://7tv.io/v3/users/twitch/97498066

[brave token]

the docs are bad atm, it's on my todo list

[somber tendon]

all good, i got it to work again with the new url and a couple of model changes

ah, and a curiosity .. this time i managed to find the global emotes URL in the debug logs that 7tv does https://7tv.io/v3/emote-sets/global, but not on the actual Network tab .. i might be extremely tired, but i'm not sure

[paper plover]

anyone doing advent of code

[topaz crown]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-toby-the-cat-nod-yes-yes-yes-hooman-gif-17105827

ive only done like half so far tho

[strange owl]

ofc!!

[patent wing]

just spent 30 mins pulling my hair out due to this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/36247140/why-dont-flex-items-shrink-past-content-size

fucking css

fucking chrome

[paper token]

bruh just play CS2 at this point

[paper plover]

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

[short sand]

For the new site please make it so if an emote upload fails, allow users to retry the submission if they change any setting

I don't know why we force users to refresh and resubmit everything to begin with

[formal siren]

Is there any plan for YouTube now?

Currently I made a userscript as a workaround, it just requests a specific emote set JSON and replaces emote names with images according to the JSON

Just want to check things to notice if i want to rewrite and contribute to the extension

[patent wing]

you currently cant even link youtube to your 7tv account, so it is kinda pointless for now

[strange owl]

can some1 review this pr https://github.com/SevenTV/Extension/pull/972

[lethal jackal]

Yoo, any other ways to fetch user's following channels?

The main API is deprecated as you know.

(twitch)

[hasty kernel]

Not possible afaik twitch has retired that possibility altogether

[lethal jackal]

[strange owl]

If anyone is available, pls review this pr https://github.com/SevenTV/Extension/pull/978

Also; if anyone is having issues (the one where it stops you from scrolling, similar to the issue that occurred on the Twitch recap page) with the "new" layout (the experiment) you can try out the branch to see if that fixes it. I'd love some feedback

[strange owl]

@exotic sigil are you currently working on https://github.com/SevenTV/Extension/issues/979 ?

[exotic sigil]

no but I could reproduce it

[strange owl]

Oh okay, then I'll take a look at it :)

thanks for letting me know

[paper token]

Yes it's very easy to reproduce

lol

[strange owl]

oh yeah I know lol

[frosty bronze]

[strange owl]

what's up chips

[frosty bronze]

oh just the video stats bug lol

[strange owl]

oh yeah, it's quite weird.

if you look at it as is, you'd assume it would work as expected

[frosty bronze]

yeah.... I haven't looked at things in a while

[strange owl]

yeah I get it

idk if you want to look into it, I did a little bit so I can give you some direction if you'd like

[frosty bronze]

I'm not going to be able to look into it now

maybe next year...

[strange owl]

that's fine

[strange owl]

seems like it wasn't actually your code causing it lol

[strange owl]

Great, I found a fix! (:

although I must say it's not too great so I'll probably have to figure out something else

[patent wing]

[solemn widget]

why did you create discord twitch

lol

[patent wing]

cause why not :)

[paper token]

I’m exited to try it out

Imagine a way to combine the rooms so you could have xqc’s twitch and kick chats merged

Could be kinda cool

Send your messages to both

[patent wing]

would be pretty easy with how I have structured the code

it kinda combines twitch and kicks different message types into one

[paper token]

no tech debt

[solemn widget]

niiiiice

[paper token]

That way I can be an offline chatter and an online chatter at the same time

[patent wing]

[solemn widget]

wouldn't it be based

if it sent messages in both chats too

(no, no it would not be)

[paper token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1133870721764954212.png?size=48&quality=lossless

It would be based

Because of the way people use xqc’s twitch chat when he’s on kick

My messages wouldn’t be out of place there, personally

But yeah its usefulness is limited.

[rotund pivot]

[paper token]

Is this available yet? I’m dying to use it

[misty olive]

i tried it and its still buggy

[paper token]

Looks so good though

Is the performance on par with chatterino?

[misty olive]

i say so yeah

theres still a lot of shit thats missed 😭

[paper token]

To be expected

BUT NOT TO BE TOLERATED

https://tenor.com/view/odablock-neck-oda-gif-23153878

[misty olive]

its clean

[paper token]

I like how it shows the users

Like discord

[misty olive]

yeah its cool

[paper token]

But unlike chatterino

[misty olive]

its based on whoever chats

[paper token]

Oh

Can’t that info be scraped from the web UI somehow?

[misty olive]

no clue

that might be a matin answer tbf

[paper token]

Yes

I didn’t actually think you could answer it

lol

[misty olive]

[paper token]

But who knows. Maybe you did hear something about that

[misty olive]

i wish chatterino had some way to get chatlist

[paper token]

It would also be a Melon answer

[misty olive]

so fucking annoying

🤓

LIKE GIVE ME SOMETHING FFS

[paper token]

Yeah

If you can see it on the website , it’s obviously still available

Just gotta get it somehow

[misty olive]

it might be based on 3rd parties

[topaz crown]

get ivr to host an endpoint for it

[misty olive]

ryan get on it

NOW

[topaz crown]

i mean theres already public endpoints for it

[misty olive]

PRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

SOMETHING

like bro

if you cant see chatters, why have this?

[paper token]

Hi Ryan

[misty olive]

[topaz crown]

yo

[misty olive]

i get mods can see it but bro

[paper token]

For moderators 🤓

[misty olive]

these buttons should be in the same category

so annoying

[paper token]

Someone is riding a dirt bike or some kind of motorcycle around out there and it’s 2 am. I hate it so much because I wish that was me.

I’m JELLY

[patent wing]

not self promo https://www.chatlect.com/

[misty olive]

mods?

get that guy??

[solemn widget]

yeah

obviously

you can use a token from the twitch website itself and make a request for the viewer list

[placid galleon]

is there a rate limit on emotes? on https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/<id>/4x.avif

[paper token]

but why is chatterino not doing that?

[topaz crown]

because

[paper token]

Unlucky

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/395270469466456064.gif?size=48&name=forsenSWA&quality=lossless

[placid galleon]

its TOS i was told

[paper token]

But I don’t care about breaking tos

[pseudo rivet]

but chatterino does

[paper token]

Yes

Lame

[placid galleon]

would they sue you or just ban

[wild bramble]

hey any thoughts on how to get 7tv working in a twitch chat embed?

ffz works, and i tried using the ffz addon for 7tv

but since ffz is absolutely trash it still doesn't work

[patent wing]

Embeds are not currently supported, but maybe in the future 👀 https://github.com/SevenTV/Extension/pull/964

[lyric walrus]

[fierce idol]

[strange torrent]

hello, why i cant search for emotes? is the requerst wrong?

[quick spear]

@paper plover

[paper plover]

That rest api is not a thing yet
for now you can use the gql api,
#developers message
#developers message

but note that the rest api is still in development, and once is officially a thing, the gql api will be discontinued and abandoned, so you will need to update your code to use rest api by then

[strange torrent]

ok thanks so much!

[strange torrent]

[topaz crown]

you could double check the query against the website's request. just open dev tools and perform an emote search and copy the gql query from there

[paper plover]

what's your {{url}}?

try with https://7tv.io/v3/gql first perhaps

my query for reference:

query SearchEmotes($query: String!, $page: Int, $sort: Sort, $limit: Int, $filter: EmoteSearchFilter) {
  emotes(query: $query, page: $page, sort: $sort, limit: $limit, filter: $filter) {
    count
    items {
      id
      name
      state
      trending
      owner {
        id
        username
        display_name
        style {
          color
          paint_id
          __typename
        }
        __typename
      }
      flags
      host {
        url
        files {
          name
          format
          width
          height
          __typename
        }
        __typename
      }
      __typename
    }
    __typename
  }
}

variable:

{
  "query": "forsen",
  "limit": 40,
  "page": 1,
  "sort": {
    "value": "popularity",
    "order": "DESCENDING"
  },
  "filter": {
    "category": "TOP",
    "exact_match": false,
    "case_sensitive": false,
    "ignore_tags": false,
    "zero_width": false,
    "animated": false,
    "aspect_ratio": ""
  }
}

[strange torrent]

the problem was in the url lol, the url variable has / at the end

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1184026455240355870/1184967247849062500/lol.gif?ex=658de5bf&is=657b70bf&hm=8c71394d5be0600cd271e5d1a21e5cd272dde45ba4cb19a8687b71766dd60951&

[formal siren]

The "must include input" mode of the colon-completion looks weird

It seems not listing emotes including the input when an emote starting with input is found

not always 🤔

[paper plover]

@deep dagger #developers message

#developers message

to request the mutation without much code, you can use Postman as such #developers message

[deep dagger]

thanks man! Really appreciate the pointer! Will try to figure out this graphql thing and get something running!

[karmic mantle]

Hmmm, how do I activate the Twitch Emote showcase? It doesn't show anything rn...

[low yoke]

hello, any chance of the developers to add an PNG emoji option to the api? Unity doesnt support neither AVIF or WEBP

[paper plover]

If the image is static, the PNG version is usually also included in the cdn
u only need to change the file extension from .webp to .png
e.g. https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/6042089e77137b000de9e669/4x.webp to https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/6042089e77137b000de9e669/4x.png

[low yoke]

oh cool! that works wonders

ty

[paper token]

Unity?

[low yoke]

the game engine

[paper token]

yes

but why are you using the 7tv api in a unity program?

and why don’t you just implement an avif library ;)

[low yoke]

its a dumb twitch chat integration game

and those cost money lol

[paper token]

i see

[paper token]

weird.

avif is supposed to be free and stuff 😭

[paper plover]

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/utilities/avif-loader-237189
Anson will pay for it

[paper token]

cringe that it costs money

well

I guess it’s a shortcut

you could implement it yourself

but that takes skill and time

[low yoke]

[paper token]

I have neither skill nor time

so I would pirate it

[low yoke]

its too much of a hussle, theres too many steps to make a moving image work efficiently in Unity

not worth the effort

[low yoke]

i did it i did solve the weird json formating 7tv has to give me the names and the id of each emote a channel has

took me a while

now im allowed to go

[strange owl]

I am once again asking for your reviews...

If anyone noticed some issues related to suspicious users not being highlighted and clips not being embedded, please try out the branch and let me know if it fixes it.

https://github.com/SevenTV/Extension/pull/986

[low yoke]

is the global emote set on 7tv https://7tv.app/emote-sets/61d2f5b3825ae71d82bf37a8

the only one that is shared among all channels?

[patent wing]

this and yes https://7tv.app/emote-sets/659ad13b8cfff8b456efabda

[low yoke]

gotchaty

[patent wing]

and this the api

https://7tv.io/v3/emote-sets/global

[low yoke]

does that combines both?

[patent wing]

no the first emote set you sent is not the global emotes

that was the channel emotes for the 7tv twitch account

[low yoke]

oooohhhh i understand

this emoji breaks my regex completely

[low yoke]

nvm ill just skip the :))))) type emojis

cant be bother

[paper plover]

i dont think this one is global emote set
just for the devs to test emote set i think

[low yoke]

ya i used the global set only

[topaz crown]

mods crush his skull

[mortal fossil]

ryanpotat should have used $nap instead: (automated: afk for over 30 minutes) 💤 (45m, 7s ago)

[topaz crown]

$rafk

[mortal fossil]

ryanpotat, Your AFK status has been resumed.

[topaz crown]

@misty olive mods crush his skull!!

[misty olive]

danks 👍

[green gate]

What is the max uri length for the event api? I'm getting an error about it being too long, but I can't find any info about the max length

[frosty bronze]

if you're running into max uri length, I suspect you're not using the api right

[green gate]

It says to use inline event subs in the docs "The endpoint for managing subscriptions is currently unavailable. You may use Inline Event Subscriptions in the meantime."

And I assume I'm not supposed to have an eventsource for each thing I want to subscribe to

[frosty bronze]

I think gql is the way to go here

someone that's actually used it can answer it better than I can

[patent wing]

max uri length?

I think that is a browser limitation

[paper token]

2^11

[green gate]

[warm yacht]

What are you trying to achieve with the event API?

If the URI is too long, maybe using a websocket connection is smarter (I know that was the way to go for the FFZ addon)

Dynamic un-/subscription from topics etc.

[patent wing]

im doing this contract job and they asked how they can embed react into a wix website

nah wtf https://www.npmjs.com/package/@wix/react-velo

jquery + react baby

surely they change their mind

[frosty bronze]

that seems cursed

[strange owl]

I agree, it definitely looks cursed

[patent wing]

they decided not to go with wix

[plush sandal]

at least it wasn't wordpress

[high scarab]

hi

[frosty bronze]

hi

[solemn widget]

hi

[solemn bluff]

hi

[paper token]

hi

[fierce idol]

hi

[rotund aspen]

hi

[quick spear]

hi

[paper token]

noo it was supposed to be an Interest: Stage role after regress

for perfect mirrored colors

[blazing pivot]

[quick spear]

[zinc aspen]

Trying to probe into a specific issue in the API, cloned and opened in GoLand and I'm getting errors (i have no idea how Go works) but its saying i need GOROOT or something and need to download an SDK

anyone mind letting me know what SDK i need

[solemn widget]

do you have the actual compiler installed

[zinc aspen]

i have zero idea what i actually need thats why i joined to ask
(no i dont)

[solemn widget]

ah alright