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Yo
That doesn’t sound goose-like
Yo
This comes up about once a week. Birdwatcher was already nerfed once because it was way too over powered. The current version is brilliant at getting information. It's unnaturally strong and adds a ton of deceptive plays that I've yet to see many players take advantage of. Knowing one is in the game makes lying for the ducks more difficult.
It's one of the most hated birds but it is easily the most misused or misunderstood. I would suggest turning it off if your group doesn't enjoy it.
Birdwatcher?
i feel like public voice chat lobbies are more scuffed than public non voice chat lobbies
Don’t get me wrong, voice chat is fun with friends but with random people it’s a fricking nightmare
Especially people who joins lobbies that are clearly not in their language
I had to join a voice lobby one time because there weren't text lobbies at thr moment. And i tried talking...someone voted me because they couldn't understand me. I have a speaking problem
It's a good thing they need majority.
People can be mean... that's why we have that warning up.
I highly recommend playing with groups here on discord. Many players don't discriminate here.
I just left because I didn't feel like dealing with it. Lucky enough most of the times there's a chat lobby
nothing sus about it ok? 
I tried getting some people who loved playing among us into this game
Hi
And?
No Lucky i'm afraid
I've played the game for 450+ hours and gotten birdwatcher maybe about 40 times. Not one of those times have I been able to use the role for testing to see if a goose gets murdered in a room that the ducks don't know I'm watching. And in those 450+ hours I witnessed only 2 other players successfully use birdwatcher to witness a murder.
That said, I was able to catch a few ducks activating the light sabotage on Mother Goose (not knowing I was there) using birdwatcher. After a while, the lobby just figured out they needed to check the spot where I would hide as birdwatcher before they tried to activate the lights sabotage.
sounds like you need to birdwatcher better
The problem I see with the role, using birdwatcher for anything other than clearing one's self takes so much experience with the game the role barely even deserves its place
How to Birdwatcher: For Dummies
at least it's not Birdstalker - having a tracking arrow point toward a bird of choice for a round
I could write an extensive guide on birdwatcher and how to use it effectively. Even the mere thought of the birdwatcher in the game makes being a duck slightly more difficult. It has inherent passive abilities. This is definitely a high skill-cap role that requires a lot of understanding of movement, map positioning, and utility for it to be effective. I agree in the hands of someone inexperienced or not high enough skilled at the game it could feel fairly useless. If you're using it solely to catch murders you're using it incorrectly.
Birdwatcher tip, Follow and double back, a lot. Follow groups of two or more players that looks like they are teaming up (they might not be, could be a duck stalking it's prey). Wait for them to go in a room, run past, use ability to spy on them. The amount of information you get is invaluable in clearing and voting.
You can do this multiple times during a game while still moving between tasks, watch who is getting voted and who is claiming what during meetings. Within 2 rounds the birdwatcher can gain enough information to basically break down a good chunk of the game.
I'm thinking about a scenario where lights are off and you're watching everyone in the secret hallway
This role requires memory like an elephant and attention like an eagle.
Seeing who's doing it and who's not
You can't see through the dark
I thought birdwatcher could use their ability to see through the dark
Using it to snoop hiding spaces and vents periodically is a very basic use of the birdwatcher, it helps break alibis of players. You can say, "I saw you getting into a vent, you're not XYZ". You don't have to explain how you saw them (that will just get you killed).
Or tell someone you've potentially cleared (obviously risky) to shout out "I saw xyz through the wall go into a vent". And bait the assassin shot.
It's still true information
I've seen people just complain the moment they get the birdwatcher and then proceed to use them wrong in every way... I like that there is a role in the game that no one truly understands its power. When we introduce our sweaty classic mode with drafting I can guarantee the birdwatcher will have the highest discrepancy of win rates. Players who are good with it will topple the game for the ducks and secure significantly higher win rates over geese teams that avoid picking it because they don't understand it.
I have been enlightened
This tom foolery can work in the duck's favor. I was spy duck and claiming a venting role while I figured out who the pigeon and the mechanic were, claimed I saw them both vent even though they never vented and I gaslighted the heck out of them and got them both voted out
Talking about vents, should you also keep venting hidden as a mechanic goose?
This is all part of the game 🙂 Most high skill players misrepresent their roles to create chaos
The ducks primary goal (if anyone listening hasn't figured it out yet) is chaos. Chaos helps win games because you're usually outnumbered. The only other player that benefits from chaos is the dodo. Too much chaos and they'll steal a victory.
The birdwatcher stops chaos...
Part of me wants to do a power ranking of all roles video explaining why I think some are the way they are and why some are not.
Birdwatcher is definitely A tier or even S tier.
Id put it on par with the vigilante
Vigilante > Sheriff (I SAID IT)
Vigilante actually makes the duck's game easier. It's not difficult to get voted out as vigilante and gaslighting a vigilante is easier than you might think.
100% disagree with this.
I've claimed vigilante and killed the canadian before, gotten away with it as a duck after giving an elaborate explanation that another goose could even have agreed with
The power of a role isn't defined by how easily you can manipulate someone who has that role 🙂 The power of the role can only be defined by how effective it is in the hands of its own players.
The role's double edge makes it weak.
As I stated before; vigilantes have high vulnerability to the votes of geese, which make it effectively like a sheriff misfire, even if you get it right as vigilante.
I think it may help to tell yourself that the ability of your role when Goose isn't the most important thing? You should use it when possible but not only concentrate on that
another thing that makes the vigilante not as good as sheriff is the falcon
example; with 'perfect play' you can get the left 8 players in a 16 player lobby to vote themselves to prove they are not the falcon. you can do the same thing the next round with the right 8 players in the next meeting.
anyone that doesn't vote themselves is subject to getting sheriffed and/or voted in future rounds.
(this is an easy, cheesy way to figure out who the falcon is)
this also may reveal a snitch duck
any player that gets 2 votes in that meeting is suspicious (as a duck partner may be trying to prevent a snitch duck from being revealed)
Even if you get voted out afterward, getting to kill a Duck has massive value for the Goose team
counting the number of skips (out of 8 skips) can reveal how many neutrals/bad roles there are
typically when im sheriff i either get it wrong and leave 2 bodies on the floor, or i get 3 good consecutive kills before I die
A one-for-one trade of a Goose life for a Duck life always favors the Geese
or i die before i can sheriff people
What if I automatically skip as any role I am when I don’t have info good enough to vote on?
Falcon Check is a dubious play. All it takes is a Duck to vote someone else and there's a free elim
Ive accidentally killed every neutral and killer role with sheriff by random shooting
I'm talking about a way to cheese figuring out who the falcon is. Get the left 8 birds to vote themselves in the first meeting, then the right 8 people to vote themselves in the next meeting. Any birds that don't vote themselves get sheriffed.
That kind of cheesing makes sheriff a truely overpowered role.
No one exploits that because it's sweaty and not very fun for the falcon.
(or snitch duck, for that matter)
Hello
Oh yeah people do that a lot
Hi
if a duck doesn't skip during their time to skip during the falcon check, then it reveals there is a neutral/duck in that half of players that vote during the falcon check. That's unnecessary for a duck to reveal that information, and if a dodo does it, then it's just revealing more about which player the dodo is. If another neutral doesn't follow that scheme, they're likely just to hurt their own cause in winning.
The one time someone unironically proposed a Falcon Check in a game I killed them in the next round lol
I've never seen a lobby try the falcon check before. but I've tried to clear myself as a goose-killer before by voting a random player near the end of a meeting after everyone else votes.
A lot of the roles come down to timing, I feel. Falcon checks are also a timing thing.
If you want to do a falcon check at the start of the game, a lot of roles will refuse for a variety of reasons. I've even refused to comply when I was a goose in early game.
However, if you're down to 4 or 5 people, it's a lot easier to convince others to check for a falcon.
Similarly, a vigilante who fires in the first round or two is useless unless he has reasonable suspicion that they shot a bad target. Better to shoot later when there are fewer suspects, even if it means you might not shoot at all.
even if you shoot correctly at the start, neutral roles have a greater chance at winning if you shoot early and get it correct.
same applies for sheriff, but to a lesser extent. (with the exception of vulture, if you're careless.)
i never refuse falcon checks when im a goose. the only way i'd consider it if i were goose is if I were sheriff and didn't want to prove that I'm not falcon yet to the assassin, or if i'm a lover with another goose.
I tend to refuse falcon checks, as I am wary of the people who wouldn't want to vote themselves, but other people
As I said, in a late game when we presumably have all the ducks gone, a falcon check isn't a bad move. But to default to it is lazy and very unfun, no matter which role I am.
falcon early game is arguably good for everyone. Falcon checking only hurts the falcon and helps dodo.
yeah falcon helps goose early on more than they hurt them
how does it help dodo
i am thinking of making my lobbies blind voting so no one knows who voted what
Every lobby i get into has blind voting
reason cause falcon checking can mess everyone up
color blind or blind
can't falcon check with blind
Not many lobbies would have blind voting, usually colorblind
color blind show who has what votes blind doesn't show any votes
Blind voting would indeed be a challenge, that is why it is rarely used
i really don't like falcon checks even as a goose
People usually tend to either skip or vote somebody else in early falcon checks
But it's a part of different plays
and as someone said before thatif it's a later falcon check the dodo can just vote skip to be sus
also... i can't put that much trust that someone won't put another vote on me
these are just my opinions however
I like to keep my plays more of a secret, as to help prevent others from analyzing my experiences and strategies as a counter against me. So I don't explain much :)
codes go in one of the #lfg-english-all-ages or other lfg channels.
Is blind voting that you can't see who is voting?
You won't see any votes. Everyone looks like they have 0 vote against them regardless of how people voted.
ah okay
gives @dark pumice a gun and tells him to go for a random target of his liking
Got it, coming to hunt you down.
it's a fun game, sadly enough the people aren't always smart
what isn't smart to you can be genius to others, stupid is as stupid does, life is like a box of chocolates ya never know what yer gonna get, also are they trying to be smart or trolling or indifferent? Its hard to measure intelligence if people don't equally try.
sadly enough yes
sometimes you got to remember that other people have different objectives and may not want what you want
That and different people have different experiences of the same thing, and may not remember seeing what you saw, if they saw it at all
i wouldnt have used the word smart, but i do agree sometimes people arent as competitive as i would like
and by competitive, i dont just mean trying to win, i mean people who really make a effort to know how the game works. But thats FAR from being a dealbreaker, and could proably be fixed by getting a group together but im too lazy
devs even said its not about winning or losing but having fun
And to that, it would be a matter of finding the right group. Some just enjoy gossiping and the occasional killing, while some prefer faster pace games. Neither version is wrong, but you do need to find yourself in the right group.
how do i get a mod
I found that group, but they disbanded as I joined 😛
I NEEEED A MOD
Whats up? Do you need help with a specific issue that only a mod can handle?
Yeaah i need to bring something up to mod about a member
If it happened in this discord thats fine, but if it was an in-game issue, report them will be the general response
If you suspect spamming or hacking, I would just report it here with their user name. There's not really a place for that otherwise, that I'm aware of.
If, as Duck Side said, it was a problem in-game, either use the in-game function (if public) or have the host kick the player and don't play with them again in future (if private).
I've informed the moderators that you want to talk to somebody, they'll be with you when they have time
Hacks or someone joining multiple rooms to do something like scream or vocal abuse that leave before you can kick and/or bypassing kicks = Report in a Ticket
If in public = hit report ingame
If in private = kick from lobby, try turning their volume down so if they join again - it helps you notice
thank you (:
Oops, it helps if I press the send button
@wispy portal - how can we help?
Could always DM me whenever
Unfortunately, we cannot control when bad actors enter a private game, but we do empower you by providing tools to help moderate these games. Conversations that go on in private games are private, we do not have access to the audio in any way. Players themselves ultimately have control of who enters private games. You can block or mute the relevant players in-game and use the in-game censoring filter. If you are the lobby host, you can kick the offending players, and if you are not the host you can ask the host to kick them. Players who get kicked will not be able to rejoin the game unless permitted back in by the host. If the player in question is the host themselves, you and everyone else bothered by their behavior should leave and form a lobby of like-minded individuals, with your own agreed upon rules. If no one else in the game agrees with you, you probably shouldn't be playing in that lobby anyways.
epic
yey
ok
So I know there isn't an official appreciation channel or anything, but I do want to give some love to @wispy portal and the others in the group for a great lobby, just the right balance of chaos and order that kept the gameplay on my stream popping, to the point where it's hard to speak to chat, there's so much happening. 11/10, would throw shade and sus on in the future 🙂
I like ggd lol,it has a lot of fun role and when you suggest to do buddy system,they ejected you bcus they think ur pigeon lol(u can do this as dodo)
But pls,remove voice chat.it’s so annoying and almost everyone host games with it
Most people only play it for voice chat, public lobbies do not use it
I meant,the public voice chat sucks
And whenever i try to fond game 7/10 use it
rare your request is rare, we commonly see requests for proxy to be IN public games lol its only in lobbies and meetings tho
@keen beacon If you want more games without voice chat, public or otherwise, you're free to host them yourself. See if you can attract other players to join you.
The problem is everyone speaking at the same time that we can’t hear what each people day
With text chat,everyone knows what others say
they are adding a feature to give reporter solo talk for 10 seconds, beyond that it is called Microphone Etiquette... It is NATURAL to talk over eachother in a setting like this.. Its natural to once you start talking to finish. Some people are louder than others and can easily overtake a conversation. We only have a slight color indication that someone is speaking. In face to face conversations most people in groups use visual tells to know when someone is about to talk. Blind people don't have this and have to learn how to sense stuff... Most people aren't use to 16 people trying to talk simultaneously.. Usually its small groups. Just be patient and try to get your lobby to use some etiquette. You can't help how they act though. Which is why we suggest you find likeminded people to play with.
Opening Statements will be in the next patch
on by default in public games because you are all animals 😛
private games its optional
I literally never play public lobbies. I only did it twice, and it wasn't very fun. lol
I know this has already been address and being fixed soon but I've never seen two/three people stuck in lobby at the same time.
On my screen its just me and scarecrow. On his screen duckburg is also there. Just found interesting and wanted to share. I'll post pictures in the photo gallery.
Often in lobbies when people talk over whoever called the meeting, I'll do my best to hush them up so that the person can speak.
Why do they add voice chat in the first place?
Text was already good
You don’t have to constantly complain about the same thing for hours in general chat. Make your own lobby and have your own rules.
This is due to poor connection, if you're seeing this often change the host to have the fastest connection (let them create the game).
We should have a fix for this in the future.
Yeah I figured it was just first time I've more than one at a time and wanted to share
I can't speak for everyone, but it's faster to communicate through voice than text, generally. Using them both together is the optimal solution most players don't consider.
Im just asking
Why do geese not blink while they run..?
are they blinking so fast you cant tell
idk but all Ik they blink if they stay still
not minding if anything caught their eyes like dust or dirt in their eyes
When you're on the run, you need every second to keep an eye out for ducks. (Plus, it's probably just easier if it were just for idle animation.)
oh hey the duck is over there...he has a knif- wiat a minute 
oh hey the goose is over there...he has a knif- wiat a minute 
HE HAS A KNIFE IMMA GET THE honk OUTTA HERE 
I am very much concerned for the time Mintz spent in that vc...
sure yoink
heyyyyy
hey
i just won a 1v8 as cannibal duck
just act sus and have people follow you into places that people don’t often go
no
like wiggling and have them follow you
and also apparently if you accuse someone of self reporting it’s more convincing than just accuse them of killing
good point
how's the detective changing in the coming update?
Instead of only being able to check once per game, they can check once per round (a round being the gameplay between meetings). However, the detective can now only see someone as a demon if they killed in that round compared to current detective that can see if someone killed at some point in the game.
So it's a rework, not a buff/nerf. Yes they no longer have to wait until late game to use their ability, but it's now easier to get false-positives.
So its a nerf but now it’s multi use instead lf 1x
Many people have called it a buff in their first impression. You're the first I've seen to call it a nerf.
It's kind of both at once. But like I said, it's more a rework than a direct buff/nerf.
It’s a nerf bcus now you can falsely clear people
You can also falsly clear people as current detective, though not as often. You can also re-check someone the next round as the reworked detective.
An angel one round might end up a demon the next.
Just keep checking the same person until you drive them crazy
is there a bug report channel, i keep getting a bug that make it impossible for you to see the most recent chat message
Open a ticket and explain what the bug is, a mod will contect you there.
Also if you are on mobile, I know what the bug is.
Closing and reopening the chat can fix it, although it is quite annoying.
You can get gold coins through achievements or by purchasing them in the store. 🙂
would it be funny if the mods hosted a fasion contest
the winner would get air
also am i banned from the lore questions channel?
it just kinda dissapered one day and i never saw it again
I have it but i can't send messages in it
if someone got that clip of aplayer taking the bait as assassin can you post it in #🎬︱duckumentaries ??
Correct me if I am wrong, but the use of Soundboard on this server's lobbies is a no-no, right?
Why soundboard isn’t allowed?
soundboard is fine, it is up to your lobby whether you are okay to use it
remember that if anybody is streaming on twitch, you cannot use copyrighted sounds
Say it louder for the people in the back ^
^ Please use #lfg-english-over18 or #lfg-english-all-ages
sorry they dumb there words not mine lol
Ok so there’s one thing I don’t understand why isn’t proxy chat allowed in public lobbies? It kinda makes it hard for team duck and goose players to win
And making a new lobby is a pain
We would have to run in the same lobby we made and make a new room and go back and give ‘em a code
This is something we have considered, but have ultimately decided against. We have taken the stance that if you make a private game, you are responsible for moderating it. The host will have their own rules, and have the responsibility of kicking people who they feel are breaking the rules.
Public lobbies are different in that players don't necessarily know the people in the game they are joining into. Kids might enter a game and can be harassed by others in some corner of the map if proximity chat is on. If someone is being rude or toxic in a meeting, everyone can hear it and can block their mics and block them.
So why don't we just separate servers into kids and 18+? Because a 12 year old can check off a box that says they are 18, and we'd rather prevent the potential abuse and toxicity.
If you want proximity chat, make a private game. If you need players, find a private game in the #lfg channels or make your own.
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Hi?
Hello!
hi
Currently yes
No more lore
was about to reveal the killer when the game or my laptop decided nope
It is
Hi
Hello
hi
Hoii
is it possible to complete felon island in demo trial to unlock prison shirt in goose?
no
brand new sentence from the game: I wanted to check on someone but Beyonce got in the way
did..... someone really just try to get a lobby for another game in here??
looks like it
Hey, this is a place to have fun and play games 🙂
If that means you wanna play Crab Game go ahead!
i keep checking the wrong one as detective, i click shift and someone else walks by
Hi BRASILIAN PLAYER'S in here?
bruh in a game i am playing rn 6 players went to jail at once LMAOOO!!!
Once the entire lobby can get into jail if on purpose
Not if one of the players got politician role
Or a falcon
he just means a falcon creates a skip hence 1 person will go to jail
Lobby codes in #lfg-english-over18 or your preferred channel @vital snow 
Is this the appropriate place to ask questions about the game?
I am trying to figure out how to get the game on Steam. It has a play button but no option for me to dl the game to my library.
what happens when you click play?
I haven't tried but I will now. I just don't want to be thrown into a game when I am not ready. Thank you Ducktor Who, love the name btw.
Well now I feel silly, thank you again. It's downloading now.
its all good. Glad it was an easy thing lol. and Thank you another person in the discord said it and I love Doctor who so I adopted it
quick question, can a vulture eat a prof kill?
Yup. Professional's killed bodies are only invisible / auto report to geese. Nuetrals have to manually interact with the corpse.
Correct.
it also means ducks won't auto-report, and don't know the kill is a profesional. This is a slight danger to ducks in proximity chat games, I've seen ducks caught because they walked into a room with a whole gaggle and went "Woah, who left this body here?" and everyone went "what body?"
Yours
Noooooooo
haha, in voice chat?
yeah! Turns out, when you see a corpse that nobody else can see, it's a little bit of a giveaway. lol
i feel like snitch isnt that good
never been snitch
Sending someone to jail doesnt do much
maybe snitch a sheriff or something to avoid getting killed
don't snitch on a mechanic i guess
locksmith also isnt useful
ggd neutral in a nutshell:
Dodo:yeet me out
Vulture:haha pls leave body for fun
Falcon:time to murder everyone(except final 3,even though you can still kill)
Pigeon:what’s a buddy system
Yeah,pigeon breaks buddy system which is great
why would you want sus people to be freed
Pigeon doesn't care about the girl/bro code
Pigeon is more "Let's be friends! achoo"
Well, no. If everyone has one vote, and the falcon skips, then everyone but the falcon goes to jail. If the politician, say, votes for the falcon and everyone else votes for themselves, then only the politician goes to jail.
My point was that with a falcon, everyone can't go to jail. 🙂
no falcon would create 1 skip eeven in that scenario
I should tell a public lobby to all vote themselves and see what happens
Pigeon more be like ''Almost got them...WHY DID YOU HAVE FIND A BODY''
same goes for vulture
yup
Doesn't matter. Tying with skip still sends people to jail, so long as the numbers are the same.
i see the blue arrow and i go running...
they meant everybody went to jail though
so someone would be missed, If everyone voted themself, falcon can't vote.. a vote would not be placed on 1 person -- Even if snitch voted for falcon... a vote elsewhere would be missed
... @narrow cedar Did you read my earlier comment?
If I accidentally started direct messaging someone how do I stop it
There's an X on the right side of the bar.
I'm on mobile
...hold on then.
i see minus a politician yes if everyone self voted, it'd be a tie.. but the falcon would not go to jail
everyone else would -- except ofcourse falcon and poli
We're arguing the same thing, Zyzyl. 
@vocal harness To the left of "Replying to X", they should be an X you can click to cancel it.
And if you mean DMing, just get out of it how you would change channels.
Oh Rog, you confused me by saying no then you basically agreed with me
the original reply was to an incorrect statement
English is a funny language. You can say no, but be agreeing.
@mint meteor this one
Like, the proper response to "Mind if I sit here?" would be "No, I don't mind."
"Yes, I don't mind." can also be valid such as "Yes, I do mind." and "No, I do mind." -- depends upon the person replying
2 different meanings, 4 replies
Except your first and third statements, grammatically, contradict themselves. It's done, but shouldn't be.
In isolation, I have no idea how to take that, Artemis.
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Grammar and day to day speech contradict eachother so often its silly.. Grammar is completely made up btw.
So is every single word.
doesn't invalidate that when you talk to someone, they may use different slurs, phrases, rules of grammar that aren't commonly accepted elsewhere.. I don't usually get the "I don't mind." part its usually "Yes" or "No" which can be taken either way. I often here "No" as in "No you can't sit here" or "Yes" as in "Yes, you can't sit here." --- language is fun
^so many spelling and grammar errors in what I just typed up their as well
like their is there?
Lead is read as lead and read is read as read, but lead is not the same as lead, nor is read the same as read.
And don't forget lead does not mean the same as lead, even though the two words are read the same way.
One is an adjective, one is a verb, not to be confused with lead, which is a noun or LED, which is an acronym
And lead the metal
I can't eat my cheese in peace
Who is excited for the update?
Are you guys just posting blank sentences or am I really seeing nothing
I have to restrain myself from asking when it's coming out cause I know I'll just get the bot message
Oh nice
The mortician update?
1.05
Mortician, detective rework, mother goose rework
As soon as it's ready! The gaggle team develop quickly, and we release patches fairly often. We don't often give out firm dates because it's either going to be a lie if we're wrong, or it'll be a rushed product that might sacrifice quality for speed. This could translate into releasing something without sufficient testing and creating lots of bugs for the game.
If you find none of that explanation sufficient, as Herbert always says, today we are one day closer than yesterday.
Bruh
There's the bot anyway lol
I should've known this would happen
What?mothergoose rework?
Dont tell me…they turn it into the skeld
No
What does the new mothergoose looks like?
I need a favor from 15 people pls dm

Exact same layout, just less Hexagons
You forgot the other goodies. Go follow Chris on twitch and watch yesterday's stream to see some spoilers
can't the cannibal can eat the canadians body and not report it
cause how would you report something that isnt there
Yes but the cooldown for auto report is 1 second while the eat cooldown is 3
Have a team mate kill them and clean up the mess
nice
Unless you know you have a professional, in that case either let them take care of it, or wait for a sheriff to misfire
That's a strategy that usually fails unless someone can back you up
Where it does work well though, is where a duck kills a known sheriff in the same round. Just claim they were on top of each other, vulture will be the only one who knows you are lying about where the bodies were

Everyone is entitled to like or dislike whatever they want. But most people will jump at the opportunity to sample maps in advance
but all I want is no spoilers about the map so I can get my excitement on it
Then definitely don't watch Chris's stream because there were way more spoilers than just the reworked mother goose map
Spoiler is probably a misnomer. A more correct term would be teaser
wait...a new map or updated mother goose ship?
Mother goose got an update. I won't spoil it for you
oh alright then
Hello.!
Gutentag
How is everyone??
sup and idk
Ja vais bien
That’s good 😇
I love how nobody questions why I'm using several different languages
ok here you go
why you speakin different languages?
出来るからです

In romaji, if that's easier to read - Dekirukaradesu
and thats french..."I am fine" right?
Literal translation should be "I am good", if I remember correctly
Ok
I haven't studied French in almost 20 years, so don't trust me on that
how can cannibal duck/vulture eat an entire body in like half a second without leaving any traces
They probably unhinge their beak like a snake, no?
can yall put where we can put a reason to report people cuase i had someone come in my lobby and reveal my and another person name and where we are from
i was creepy
Can DM me
HE WHAT!!!?
What movie is herbert playing
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Flatliners (2017)
we must find out the movie
Oh ok that’s cool
amazing
Thank you!
I cannot be there so...thats sad 
sup
hihi
German :D
anyone wanna join
gn everyone!
good night common
Quack!
honk
is #lorequestions #💬︱general now
no
they lock and unlock #lorequestions every now and again, I think it mostly has a lot to do with if Herbert wants to come up with more fun and silly answers. If he's not feeling up for it, the questions would go unanswered if the channel remained open, and that feels bad all around
@void citrus hello
Lore usually opens after an update
anyone wanna play goose??
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Honestly as a goose i will gladly say my role to vote out a duck even if there could be an assassin because me getting shot would make whoever i’m accusing super sus and thats what i want
one goose for one duck is fine
theres like 12 geese and 3 ducks
you mean...11 geese + 1 dodo + 1 vulture + 1 pigeon + 1 falcon and 3 ducks
and its 13 not 12 
this
this can work at the beggining of the game but near the end it's super risky because there could still be multiple duck
yeah but closer to the end also means less ducks
and less possibility of there is an assassin
most games happen like this:
start
first meeting (just a body without clues/someone accuse someone else), skip
second meeting (someone gets voted out)
third meeting (someone gets voted out again)
Goose task win, pigeon or vulture win, if not game continues
fourth meeting (someone gets voted out another time)
duck ,falcon or goose win
I was assassin in a game and someone said their role. Didn't trust them but after that two others also said their role. So I shot them in two different meetings..
As soon as it's ready! The gaggle team develop quickly, and we release patches fairly often. We don't often give out firm dates because it's either going to be a lie if we're wrong, or it'll be a rushed product that might sacrifice quality for speed. This could translate into releasing something without sufficient testing and creating lots of bugs for the game.
If you find none of that explanation sufficient, as Herbert always says, today we are one day closer than yesterday.
when its released we'll publish in #816356997564727367 now that we're on mobile we also have to coordinate with all the platforms but looking like early this week 🙂
noice
Random question cuz I don't seem to get notifications from the announcements page. Is there a role to get notified about the announcements?
Its unmuted so I'm just assuming I never noticed, nvm.
We don't @ everyone unless theres something that we need to bring attention to (i.e. Natural Disasters knocking out servers and disrupting user experience)
Ok im just used to a role like "ggdupdates" was just curious if yall had one of those.
no but might not be a bad idea, something that you sign up for...
I feel like there's something you could do with a chicken role
Something involving how they move even after having their head cut off
Hmm...
the chicken can report a body further away than others because panic
many have attempted to propose a chicken, but none have yet to come up with anything good for it
It has potential but I don't have a shovel to dig it up
are you telling me I need to make more commands? 🙂
Some days ago I was about to brainstorm about a chicken role but then I noticed everyone else did before me
again many have tried to unearth a chicken role, none have been able to successfully excavate it. Don't try to force it, if it was meant to be, it will be. Let it happen naturally
chickens are funny birds
but it has to fit with a chicken and be a good and fun role
chicken role
everyone can eat the corpse
whoever eat the corpse have all of their cooldowns reset to 0, if it’s a vigilante they can kill another person
so gravy goose but worse
because like you have no benefit to play it and people get benefit killing you
AGAIN lets not force it, let it happen naturally
The only thing I can think of is that it would die 4 seconds after it was killed but Its not an actual suggestion, lol
Agree with Chris tho. If it is meant to be it will happen but most likely not
it can always be a cosmetic item
i put it in the cosmetic channel
wassup?
I was thinking Chicken is like the Phantom in Among Us mods. Where after they die, they turn into a spirit and if they finish all their tasks before the game is over, they win. They just have to run around the map like "a chicken with its head cut off" looking for tasks. But if another player sees them and clicks their character, they lose.
This is quite possibly the most terrible role I could imagine.
It encourages a player to die to gain access to their own win condition (which is very easy and short)
and no one can do anything about it.
I completely agree that it doesn't fit in this game but if I remember correctly. Phantom didn't know their role until they died and the first meeting was off. Also if he got clicked on, he permanently died and became a normal goose. Not to mention, another thing is I think every meeting his tasks reset. I don't think it fits into this game tho
hey, i'm kinda confused about the lover. How do you exactly win?
make it to the final 3 before anyone else wins
ah ok, thanks
just had my first vulture win, crunchy bodies
whats the tastiest color in ur opinion?
hmm, blue i think
funny enough i didn't see how many bodies i needed so it was like hope i get it. 3 body and the game stopped
it did help that we weren't with many players. Easier to find the bodies before someone else did
yeS
Both pigeon and vulture have a slight advance in that situation but it also makes it difficult to get in time and not get killed yourself
That's a risky play, you're relying on the assassin not knowing a few roles already, especially toward late game.
If the person you're accusing is vigilante or something and the assassin knows your or their role, one of you looks sus as the other is shot, prompting a mass voting on the remaining player. Two geese, one meeting. Nobody knows who the assassin is and presume them voted out, sometimes resulting in people claiming their role - another easy assassination.
Often times I'll use this to my advantage when I am assassin and somebody is accusing me, I'll deny, we'll bicker until voting time, they claim their role to prove they're a goose, I'll shoot some other player to make it look like the assassin took a shot but failed and suddenly everybody questions how the assassin failed, coming to the conclusion that the player accusing me is lying about their role and often it convinces enough players to skip or not trust the accuser.
Can we get a lobby started ?
#lfg-english-all-ages or other has lobbies
Thank you!
you are welcome
how to do close valves task on Goosechapel?
Make sure the top left source can only exit at the top right
The water flows in the direction the valve points
Update day HYPE ❤️ 😄
dont jinx this
If you ever forget the number of players that need to get in your belly, it is the number of players that started the game divided by three rounded down. (e.g., 14 players started the game. You need 14/3 = 4.67 = 4 eaten)
👀
Sorry 🥺
Yep. This is supplied directly in the #live-birds channel
Personally, the longer they take, the better for me. I'd like to coincide my update with yours and I'm way behind you guys lol
This is accurate, assuming it's a skilled assassin. Randoms can be scary
I use the term "skilled" lightly. More so, played it a handful of times. Played the game more than a handful of times. 😂
Experienced would probably fit better. I've messed up more times than I can remember as assassin
Hello. Does anyone here stream on mobile? Was wondering during how do people record on Android?
Twitch has apps for Android or you can use discord
Oh ok. Every recording app I tried using g so far doesn't allow to record mic as it says mic is already In use. But I'll check out Twitch
I haven't tried any of them, so I don't know any more about them other than they exist
You can stream live on twitch with the stream labs app. That's one of the easiest I've tried so far.
That said, your chat bar will show up and take up majority of your screen during meetings and lobby unlike PC streaming.
Im gonna check this out!! That's a billions
Ill have a look still.
You're welcome! Just make sure you sign into your twitch account, of course, to start streaming.
Willpower too! Lol
~ if you’re waiting for the ggd update you might as well rate the app 5 stars while you’re sitting on the update screen. i’m sure it would only help the ggd/gaggle team. ~
More stars definitely help us get more players
Rumor has it that 5 stars makes the updates push faster lol
5 star reviews UNLOCKS the update?! no wayyy! brb.
Afternoon everyone. Got another GGD video done for anyone here interested to watch. Will also be playing with you all today despite my busy video editing work schedule lol.
😄
mood
what im doing rn:
sitting on my computer
twilding thumbs agresivly
wondering when the GGD update will happen
ah content
also, will this update introduce the updated map, or will that be for another update
aucally dont answer that i want to be suprised
we moved ramen
this is a big change, worthy of its own update 😉
What 'new' map
wait did i say new map? i meant new maps
revamp map
hexagons are outlawed now in GGD
theres blackswan
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY "they were used on early protoypes, but the gesse banned them becuase of suspisuous rooms that can be created"
or at least along those lines
Mothergoose is not a new map
i never said new map or new maps btw. i said "updated map"
i was joking becuase i though you were too my bad
oh ok
when no bodies get found but no vulture
I am super excited for this update. I almost want to cancel my stream tonight and not stream it until the update comes out. rofl
we dunno when it's gonna be released tho technically
I know.
I'd say to go ahead and stream
👍 I am just excited is all. I think people are going to love it.
You'll get more viewers lol
Of course, it does limit the pool of players who can join you
Yeah, thats why I was going to do the current build. I have a bunch of regulars that like my GGD night and play with me.
Otherwise I would.
i struggle to name the best part of the update. Changing maps in lobbies tho will be great :D
I just like the ragdoll effect when you get thrown in jail, I think it's pretty funny
The ultimate 'yeet'
Detainees need snacks.
ive not seen that lol
It's not really ragdoll
its more of a , we're just gonna launch you at the wall as a solid object because we're not interested in rigging the goose
Maybe in Goose Goose Duck 2
Caring about prisoners? That's not the goose way...
Hey shawn!
we youngins call it 'yeetin'
I played your game for 6 hours straight! Its among us and town of salem but in the same game! I LOVE IT!
but better
But better, i agree
YES
among us and town of salem is kinda old
but this is totally something new and so fun to play!
this is the next hit in the gaming community
exactly
Our whole company founded because of the pandemic. The four co-founders all lost their work/businesses so we banded together to make games that bring people together. One of the core central values for us is not leaving players behind. We did whatever we could to find a way to make the game free. Covid kicked the crap out of a ton of us and it would be a shame to have a social game where one of your friends gets left behind for a few dollars.
That's gooseiful 
lol
gooseiful*
I ain't a duck 
We also don't want to be like the other guys... after how much some companies made, making patches that don't bring much extra content to a game while literally saying "WE WANT MONEY" in their release video was kind of off-putting for me.
You're playing 1.04 right now, 1.04 was a ninja patch that we needed to deploy to get ready for this patch that we're about to drop tonight hopefully
TONIGHT?!
LES GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
cant waittt

Have you played MotherGoose yet?
NEW ROLES I HOPEEEEEEEEEEE
EYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
did it drop?
The update includes detective rework, mothergoose revamp, and the Mortician role.
Yes there are 2 slight re-works and an entirely new role
HYPE HYPE HYPE
It didn't drop yet
Yaaayyyy 
Waiting on Apple
alright
they sometimes take forever to approve builds.
MORTICIAN ROLE?!
The mortician is a goose that can learn the role of a dead body
WAIT WHERE ARE THE PATCH NOTES?!
After standing on it for aprox. 3 secs
Where. is. the. patch. notes?
We will drop the patch notes when the patch drops
we do big content patches almost every 3 weeks
so ... no sense getting people excited over it
It just happens
this is why i already love the game
it took among us about 5 months to make an update
but or you it only takes 3-4 weeks
ahhhhh i cant wait
imma go to bed so i can hurry up the time
but we do get excited over it because we love what you guys bring to the game ❤️

Is it possiable there will be any free "og" skins or something? (just wondering)
Roles take 4-6 hours
wow
lots of skins to earn for free, and some of the silver purchase/craftable ones go out of rotation\
true
some free drops on twitch also go out of rotation
Have a good one, hopefully patching before the sun comes up
btw any way to support?
Yeah. I would like to donate some day maybe
Goodnight sweetdreams 
Gn!
Buying gold helps, leaving a review, or getting friends to play.
Don't forget founder packs found on the website or Steam store.
Maps taking 30 days surprised me. I expected it to take longer, since you gotta design them, get the art assets, establish where you can and can't actually walk, and I suppose make custom tasks for the map sometimes. I thought it'd take longer than that
Escape Room inspired GGD map?
Coop escape room built into the ggd engine?
yes!
nobody likes escape rooms
🥲
What about the virtual escape rooms by the people who made goose goose duck that already exist 👀
🤐
You mean the ones at gaggle.fun ?
yeah, go play today for free (not) .99
who needs escape rooms when you can be locked on a GGD map with a killer
lol
Why not both
Idk is this a bug but everytime i load up the game i cant use vc for myself ive checked that its on and it works through discord and there is no setting to change input. What can i do?
There's a scroll bar on the sound options menu. Go down and you should find a spot to change inputs.
You want an escape room? Exist anywhere while doors get sabotaged.
haha. You want escape? Be mechanic.
omg TYSM
vent in front of people to escape from life
Fixed now? If so, great!
They work fast. Most of that time is spent testing it actually works as intended, from what I've seen. The Gaggle crew value quality
Hi
Quack
honk
remember kids, don't get addicted to quack
lover goose didnt follow that advice
falcon noises
duck noises

Meanwhile lover duck:now i have someone to vouch for me
So no one will say:
Where
Where
Red sus
Again?
they'll say it via the text chat
I am talking about text chat
So am I?
🦆
I don't get what this has to do with the price of quackers in Canada after the stork market crash
- Rare bug that could disable your kill button coming out of the vent has been fixed
🤣 omg I remember when this happened to me, it was an extra 20 awkward seconds of the doors being locked and me waiting for the kill cooldown to fix itself
stork market
I want to be mad but I can't

So I have a question.... I saw the 1.04 patch notes from 11/08/2021 that included the mortician goose, the detective rework and medium upgrade, but the 1.04 that was released on steam on 11/15 was just a small server side patch. Does that mean the patch notes were slightly leaked like 2 weeks ago except now theres a map rework to go with it? Will the detective rework and medium upgrade still be a part of it?
1.04 content got pushed to 1.05 and 1.04 became a quick update to prepare for 1.05. If all goes well, the update should drop within a day
There was no new content added, the mothergoose rework was always going to be in the patch, but it was secret
If anybody here has not yet played mothergoose map, now is the time before the original map gets replaced.
iOS still hasnt approved it
those lazy bums
it's the only thing stopping this patch from releasing
How does approval work
we submit builds to iOS and android, and they review it to make sure its safe
Ok
Hey it's been a while
since when?
Pentagon
Hexagon
Octagon
Yourmapgon
yourbreadisgone
and I want MORE bread with strawberry jam
WheRe is strAwberrY jaM
how is the process going
still waiting...
One minute closer than a minute ago!
Every minute spent is another species of birds going extinct
But another minute spent is another minute dedicated to writing a 5-star review
Thanks Mr. Herbert
question...if there is animals well there be lots of animal roles?
for example dog and cat pet and mantis and a bat and gorilla(even tho there wont be any roles for them
)
there will never be a role for an animal that is not a bird but I might change my mind in the future
so there might be
but there wont
then will'nt be roles for mammals?
mama goose role moment
Looking for players to join classic+ lobby, dm me if your in
@solid sluice Keep it to #lfg-english-all-ages or the appropriate channel
now that hurt my feeling 
OH MY BAD
Tell you what, join anyways <3
nah I cant...
I am a bit busy (when I say busy I mean I am not and the reason cus the wifi sucks)
kill someone as sheriffs, claim vigil
assassin does nothing
”jk i’m sheriff”
instantly get shot
should say: I am sheriff then lol jk I am vigi
Thats the real skill play haha
If I am assassin dont ask 2 things for how and why:
1 how did I got shot
2 why didnt he reveal his role
Good morning avians 🌞
wassup faye
What does it mean when a picture of a player along with audio of laughing pops up on the side or my screen
wdym? 
That sounds like someone used the intercom on a public map.
Yes, it is merely the intercom. It means a player in security has activated the intercom (after somebody who isn't a duck turned it on from bridge) - you can use it to locate a player at a given time. If you were playing in a private game with proximity chat turned on, you'd get a second or two where everyone can hear what you say.
Top lines include "There's a body in security" or " Hello, we'd like to talk to you about your car's extended warranty"
wait...in like if your in public and no vc just chat and use intercoms...wont geese suspect there is a evil duck laughing
Whats the use of intercom?
a literal intercom. you speak into a mic and it is broadcast over loudspeakers to everyone
if proxy is off, it uses the default honking instead
Can i see what does the ggd cams looks like?
Depends on the map, but they usually look like a set of monitors
Also can u use politician in any map other than goosechappel
Oh man
just snitch and locksmith and politician in this map
As of the next update you will be able to use it in Goosechapel
which update 
I mean,you always use it on goosechappel
sorry, meant to say mothergoose
I have somebody else here talking to me while I'm doing sixteen different things 😛
Ahh,i saw cartoonz use snitch on mothergoose
wait...
Yes, Snitch, Locksmith and Politician will be available on Mothergoose 2
there are jail in mothergoose?
err, no @gray vector . you read nothing. No spoilers here
fine Ig it involve spoilers
I forgot you didn't want to be spoilt.
Of course mechanic vent
not that role...I meant the system of the map like in nexus there is a mini bus and in black swan and mothergoose 1 has an airlock
The intercom sound reminds me of Funtime Freddy...
Mini bus?
The shuttle?
The death-tram
I got an interesting error saying that I needed to leave the room I was in so ship upgrades can happen. I assume that's the update coming very soon?
You sure it wasn't just the usual daily reset (which happened half an hour ago)
I guess that was probably it. I've never actually seen it since it's very late (or early I guess), this time I'm just unable to sleep.
Daily reset?
probs a server restart. It makes sense, keeping stuff up 24/7 with no restarts isint easy
also resets the lost geese counter
Every day at a certain hour (it used to be 6 am EST), the server resets. It also refreshes the pets.
It is apparently possible to keep the room through reset, but only if someone stays in the room while someone else leaves and rejoins the same code.
Daylight savings time is nearly pointless now a days and its confusing AF, its time for it to go
Duck standard time
Depends where you are from. Here in Australia, it is extremely useful, without it the sun would be still shining at 9pm at night for half the year
KEBY TU BOLA CZ/SK KOMUNITA NAPÍŠTE MI
How does one obtain the content creation role?
Creating content!
Okay but seriously, I suggest dropping your stream link in #829421328502095943 when you're streaming.
That'll give a little more visibility to it and whoever assigns that role may have an easier time knowing you need it if they see you consistently streaming GGD with a viewership
oops, yes, you are correct. I have fixed my post.
Thank you, I have and i've hosted games and stuff opn stream so i was just wondering ❤️ I'm sure I'll see it eventually ❤️
i just killed a falcon that was about to win with the chandelier as a dead duck
My fav map to be a dead duck in is nexus
the teleporter is too fun
what is the difference between snoop and mechanic?
Depends on the map
None, just snoop fits better on mallard
ah
how do I get my ability to talk in #lorequestions again?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Hope this isn't against the rules, but I have a question, If the Mechanic can actually see other ducks in vents then, why can't the Ducks kill the mechanics inside vents if there even is one?
when did they add 7 letter codes?
or were there always 7 letters, idk.
not in here #lfg-english-over18
I think there always was
Oh, thank you 🙂
can anyone put this question in #lorequestions for me?
It's closed
wait what? My ability didn't get disabled?
since when did it start opening and closing?
and why did it even close?
They do that sometimes
I need answers
Because they can
but what does that help them with?
so they don't have to be pressured by the stress of so many questions?
I figured they decided only x amount of question get answered before the next update or so they have time to answer all the other questions without new ones coming in
They close lore questions down sometimes so they can get more work done on the game and also when the questions keep being repeats or so on. They will probably open them back up after the update. Why not keep a running notepad of your questions til then.
ok
the first one on my list: how tf are the ducks walking around with a cannon? 
or vigi or sheriff or falcon
i haven't played goose goose duck for a long time
same 
i can't even play rn cuz of final exams
i just have to wait till december
and freedom 🙂
last time i played GGD was before Goose CHapel came
ha man...I want to be free from stress but it happen
Hi
Hi Anaa
and that doesn't mean my finals were ongoing for 3 months or something
sup
🖐️ - Opened Discord Through Browser on Computer
- Opened Discord Through Mobile
- Opened Discord Application on Computer
I'm 🖐️
we have added a new polls that Chris didnt added
hello?
hi
hi i'm new player
well welcome in. we have #lfg-english-all-ages and other lfg channels for games going on. idea sections. sections if you need help. and so on. 🙂
I was in jail with someone else as a duck and I was venting in front of them and they were falcon and killed me
hey, is there a reason i can't bring the ducks up?
To be specific, the snoop is the role on maps where you can't move around the map, while the mechanic does hide and move around.
also, the snoop goose is for one map
That's pretty much the difference. Snoop cannot move around the map using vents, only hide in them because they're actually cupboards. It's just a renamed mechanic goose for the Victorian era map Mallard Manor, currently the only map like this.
i was snoop and i could move
Which map? Because there is a known glitch where the roles are swapped, and you can get mechanic on Mallard Manor, and snoop on the other maps. They work how they are supposed to on that specific map, but the role names are different
spaceship map, st goose or whatever the name is
i also have been mechanic in the manor
That makes sense, I've been snoop on other maps and mechanic on Mallard Manor. It's a visual bug, but the roles aren't altered by what they do on the map.
Should be fixed in an update one day
ah alright
No need to worry too much about it 
It is fixed in 1.05
Thought I say hello, I started playing today, thank you for having me 
glad to have ya!
if there was a channel for creating joke roles, that would probably be the most used channel
i just like to speak my mind here every once in a while
well great ideas are fueled by bad ones... adapt, improve, overcome
I put my joke roles in #💡︱general-ideas and title it:
Classic+ Rejects Idea:
noice
will they reconsider rebuffing detective for the next live update? (detecting someone every round feels unnatural)
Is anyone planning on playing in like 3-4 hours?
Me
Detective is gonna be changed so they get 1 check every round, but the checkee had to have killed that round
More of a buffn’t
also detecting people every round and only for that round encourages grouping
they're ruining a perfectly good role, yuck
How?
if I kill someone right behind a goose and continue travelling along with the goose, I can marinate the goose and the vulture cleans up my mess. I get away with it and the next round there is 0 evidence that I did it.
detective will go around grouping with people and find anyone that isn't grouping and just randomly detect them
rarely strategically using the role
it de-balances the game
feels like an un-work rather than a rework
And current detective doesn’t?
i strategically use my detective role
i'm can also threaten a duck as the canadian and say to everyone else in proxy 'this guy has devil horns' and the duck comes chasing me through a crowd to come kill me
but i can't do that as the new detective
Yeah you can? They just have to have killed that round
how am i gonna detect someone if someone reports a body before i get to use my role
and getting near the duck means death
the duck becomes a black hole for geese
why did they even rework the role in the first place
New detective isn’t taking anything away, it’s just shortening the time frame of it
have you been playing with it and seeing it twave
okay this is gonna sound a little strange but im not a beta tester, but i've had dreams about this game and i didn't like how it played out in my head
you're really winning me over with this approach
Do you just not want it to change? I personally think that the change would bring more strategy to it, you now have to consider the fact that it’s only for the round. Plus, it will make detective less likely to confirm someone now that they have something to lose once assassinated
It also gets people to stop complaining about a 'boring role'
Here is my hot take on the Detective rework:
It will change the way the game is played with the detective around. Not better, not worse, just different. Yes, old detective you could have a situation where a duck and a goose accuse each other of a kill so the detective steps up and offers to detect. But you also had situations where people would blow their detective use testing the vig after the vig claims a kill.
New Detective makes it different. The geese won't have as good of an answer when 2 people accuse each other. But the Detective also can randomly check people each round, provided the round has been going long enough for someone to have reasonably likely killed. Have you been with someone a while and a second person just walked up and started hanging with you? Maybe they're a duck trying to establish an alibi before the body they left behind is found. Check them.
the plays you can make with the role are just less sophisticated
I disagree. They're just different.
Not really, you can catch someone lying about vigi if they get detected as bad twice
I’d disagree, vigi isn’t any more 5000 iq than sheriff for example
detective bluffing becomes more frequent and easier to evade in argument
Agreee
the probability of getting detected twice in 2 separate rounds is far lower
we're cancelling the patch because of you twave
you are the only reason why its not out now
eh, I've played with the new detective
i'd hope yall reconsider
That's assuming the detective is randomly checking people rather than checking their sus.
at this rate he's gonna rollback the game to classic
The problem isn’t that they aren’t being flexible with the role, it’s that you won’t be flexible with how you play it
unpopular opinion: Birdwatcher is OP af and I got 2 ducks out earlier today with it
Twave, I respect that you have uncertainty, but with respect, your basis is because you had a bad dream. It's based on, well, literally nothing except something you made up in your own head.
meme-ing aside, im sure that it will be different twave
Give it a try!
it doesn't mean there isn't a way to use it
i mean, now you have a possibility of catching all 3 ducks and a falcon with the detective
im sure you can figure out some master way to pull that off
I personally feel it’s a bit situational but I like it more than medium
I strongly suspect there will be a community learning curve period while people work out how to best use the new role design to catch ducks.
i'd bet that pigeon wins are more frequent with optimal new detective play
and less task victories
Why?
detective getting all the attention while the technician waits for ios updates
honestly this new update is huge, detective isn't even one of the bigger things in my opinion
but what does pigeon have to do with a detective
from what ive read the new changes should lead to more advanced gameplay reguarding not immediately reporting bodies to allow new detective and the mortician to actually be used effectively, personally im excited for it
grouping, detective spends their time running around instead of doing tasks (acts more like a sheriff or vigilante)
and admits their role earlier in the game
You could say any role does that though
Assassin
and you get slightly less of a chance to ever be able to detect someone twice
every role can have a lawyer
That's an interesting idea. I can see someone standing over a body telling people not to report and then people debating reporting the body because Detective
Just do like the Canadian and have a detective lawyer
Medium groups so they know that when a body dies, it is the person not there, vulture may side with the geese and report instead of eat bodies, vigi may shoot someone for fun that is innocent, sheriff may shoot anyone they dont like right off the rip
It's all part of the social deduction and any role can be played differently. I wouldn't assume that a new detective would lead to easier pigeon wins
the bird legal system will flourish
i've even seen vulture and medium cover for eachother
And honestly if I'm looking, I can find the same person between every meeting most of the time
im glad you brought up the Vulture bc that will be funny if the mortician is checking a body just to have the vulture run up and nom the body XD
> Tell them I'm Canadian
> Gets shot the moment voting starts in the first meeting
> They were Assassin
> MFW```

if you eat the body, it will stop the mortician's investigation
GGD Drive thru
thats going to lead to alot of funny situations
that's why I'll yell that if I get shot by assassin it was [person]
the sheriff and the vigilante already have interest in grouping if they find each other. the recurrent detective adds to the grouping trio every round
Tell it to someone else
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vulture may side with the geese
I find this a very interesting aspect of the game. Oftentimes I see neutrals who decide they're not gonna win just sort of pick a side and then specifically work against their own win condition in order to help that side win. It's neat.
yup and the mortician gives a credible claim to a duck who is caught standing on a body which will be nice for the not so clean kills
Oh yeah, mortician is another reason to not instantly report a body
Overall I don’t think the grouping is a good argument. I think the detective is fine either way
Sounds like a good strategy I’ll try that next time
but then you also must have issues with the vulture now alongisde mortician? as the mortician means bodies may not be reported immediately meaning more time for the vulture to eat it, leading to more vulture wins?
i mean people are going to group no matter what roles they have depending on the players so thats a thing as well
This is true. I was streaming with my regular group yesterday and it got to a point where people were grouping at the end.
plus, if you really think pigeons going to be an issue with the new detective, you could turn it off 👀
at that point i usually just tell the ducks to start calling more Sabs to help them out
the more goose roles that encourage grouping, the more pigeon victories there will be. the balance of the game isn't completely thrown off with the new update but it's certainly not going in what I think is the right direction.
And as someone who does beta test, I personally think the new detective role is way better than the old one.
People don’t realize they can control the settings as much as it lets them
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you make a fair point
I think Herbert has a good sense of game design 😅
you might be right, you might be wrong. surely you can understand from our perspective, it's probably going to be hard to convince you if you haven't played yet
i don't mind healthy discussion
and i don't mean to be reductionist to your argument but what little of what you've seen of it play out is in a dream
i can fake detective as pigeon and get people to group with me
so lets play with it for a while and see how it goes
I mean yeah you can fake any role
it's a new play but it really just encourages having a little gosling following you the entire time
Good!
i do not beta test, but i do think the detective rework will be more beneficial to the geese than to the pigeon,,,, and more beneficial than its detective ancestor
I claim sheriff half the time I’m a duck
and it makes pigeon victories a little more annoying imo
Just turn off pigeon •.•
you did that yesterday
It works a ton
Neutral Victory’s are always annoying
I can't wait to get vulture in 1.05 update, stand on a body and claim mortician, then as somebody walks past eat it and blame them
it works far more than it should
In this case, maybe you think a pigeon is claiming detective and you go to vote them out and it’s actually the dodo 👀
i already pulled off a similar(ish) trick as dodo
Dodo is kinda hit or miss for me but I can appreciate its existence
I like the fact that a random neutral role can pull out a win.
Dodo stope people just randomly voting until they get the ducks out
Yeah, playing neutrals are always fun
also pigeon may be able to start winning earlier in the game making them more of a threat too now
same, and i like that it adds an impromptu timer for when people really do not care about tasks, because the less people, the easier it is for a neutral to win usually?
i rarely vote off pigeon because the role is mostly harmless if there are 3 ducks on the board
if there is only 1 duck or falcon left then the pigeon is a target
Like pigeon really is not an issue until late game when very few people are left, but if people are grouping earlier due to the new detective, then it makes the pigeon more of danger
Why will people group more because of the detective rework?


