#💬│palia-discussions
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I juggle between alts as well sometimes, especially if content's timegated. I hope we'll be incentivised enough to play on one character on Palia to not warrant this kind of juggling of alts since it's bothersome to me.
I wish I had your focus!
Hi beautiful people. One day less waiting for Palia
I am too focused on making wooden furniture, I want to be the very best.
it not really about focus, i just imagine the character to be an alter-ego of me :3
Same.
that is very true and idk if a monthly/yearly subscription would be a good idea for the game
Or in my case having to much time on my hands and complete boredom xD
give me some of your time, i need more 
I think years of writing my D&D and rp characters has just compartmentalised my personality. All my babies are a piece of me.
tell me something. i know how it feels now that i have heavily bruised ribs. waaaaayyyy too much free time.
Hello 👋
I'm not sure how well that would work for a game like Palia where crops could and most likely would be on real-time minutes or hours. I think if I was a free to play user and couldn't get on to get to my crops or it logged me out too soon only to put me in queue it would dissuade me from wanting to play. I personally think this game concept and possibly the execution warrants the ability to charge a monthly subscription, but yeah they could maybe offer different tiers of sub that open more of the game or give more benefits. I would 100% support this game monthly because I believe in the idea and the team and I think others would too.
Sharing is caring but you wouldn't wanna switch, trust me 
Exactly!
A huge part of it involves the way characters are managed in game. Race/Class/Profession combinations. I literally had hundreds of alts on City of Heroes... but I dumped a whole lot of money into that game to get them. Sometimes I just fall in love with the character creation process.
Good points. I am hoping to be able to pay a fixed rate for 3 or 6 months at a time, and not have incremental charges.
whenever i watch the game trailer, it keeps reminding me of Sea of Thieves o-o the graphic style is sooo similar
I thought so too
Tiers of sub is absolute no-go in my book. Way to easy for a company to make it or be tempted to make it pay2win
Honestly, between the graphics, the premise, and the overall vibe of the development team, I will happily buy a lifetime sub to Palia if it gets offered.
tiers is a no go in my book too x.x
I would be most comfortable with buying the game, and paying a monthly subscription, if that is needed.
i do not agree with having to buy it AND having to pay a monthly sub
hi guys
That's how WoW is now. And I'm fine with it.
that would mean you buy a game, yet if you dont pay the sub you cant play. thats a downright scam action in my book
i am not my poor wallet will die
Then in your book, WoW is a scam and always has been? xD
why do you think i dont play WoW? yes. WoW is a scam with actions like those
Yea true and also the best mounts in the game is in a cash shop
A live update game, with content for years to come, I think a sub to pay for that is fair
I don't think you understand what it requires to have a good game running and keep developing on it then.
I think it is more the "I bought the game up front, but I'm still paying monthly to pay"
I'd rather have a reoccurring subscription than the game being hinged on p2w mechanics or an overly extensive cosmetics shop.
Either or seems better? Buy it up front, or pay subscription to play. Both is feels real bad though as you bought the game up front but could still not be able to play anymore
Now subscriptions and pay to win, that’s some bs
having a monthly payment system is fine. but not in combination with selling a copy of the game. cause if you sell a copy of the game but you cant play it without the sub. thats a scam. you cant play the copy of the game you paid for.
Microtransactions are inevitable, but a few MMOs have the sense to keep them restricted to basic shortcuts and cosmetics. Not gameplay advantages.
i mean it did take them like 7 months to release 9.1
imagine gtav saying yea you have to buy our 60$ game but you cant play unless you pay us 20$ a month.
I like a lot of cosmetics being behind transactions, but you could still work your way to getting them free with large amounts of time (kind of how League does like 90% of their skins)
It is not a scam. It's a payment model to have a good game running and be able to continuously develop it.
If you don't have the money, fine. But that dose not make it a scam.
Do you want a good continues game or not?
LotRO does it that way as well. If you're willing to work for it, you can earn almost anything. Even their Expansion Packs.
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i agree with it not being a scam but idk if you can still call wow a good game
I would love to be able to earn store currency via achievements in Palia. Imagine making 1000 pies and being able to buy a fancy new oven or something!
oh man, I hope Palia has some wild achievements
WoW has been taking a downward turn for quite some time now. This year was the first year I unsubbed
Well it entirely depend on what you want from it. IMO it's not as good as it once was. But I still think it is good.
Depending on how intense the cooking process is, 1K pies may not take long (as I'm making pies in Runescape. Takes like maybe 2-3 hours once you have resources?)
if you pay 60$ for a game for example. and then HAVE to pay 10$ a month otherwise you cant play it. then yes. i consider that a scam. i never thought WoW was a good game. but thats just a personal opinion. however, having to be forced to pay extra money to play a game you have already paid a full game price for, does sound like a scam to me. its fine if you dont agree, each has their own opinion.
🏆 tree hugger
you ran into trees 100 times, ouch!
palia achievement speedrun time
Now that one is a deal breaker for me.
right?
same both because i don't wanna support blizard anymore and the game is slowly becoming worse each day
You can't use the term scam then. Blizzard is not taking your money and running away with it without you getting anything from it. It's a totally legit business = not a scam... come on man!
You just don't like the payment model and that's fine. You think it cost too much.. Well don't play it then. But it surely don't make it a scam
they are tho? you paid full price for a copy of the game
we gotta make that into a copypasta
yea its not a scam blizzard is just money hungry
but then you cant play it.
By pure definition it’s not a scam, then how people feel about it is a different story entirely and not a Palia topic
lets just keep it at that and consider this topic done
blizzard more like bad haha gottem
Rekt
It’s a agree to disagree on terminology and swing back to Palia chat or head to #💬│off-topic-chat 
Yeah I don't think any publisher is going into the MMO scene thinking they'll be able to get away with the WoW pay model. Palia will be different, has to be
+1
You're right. The government calls it "fraud."
If you pay for a product, you get to use that product.
However, paying for added content initially not a part of that product? Go for it! Add all you want. Rake in the moolah!
FFXIV did the same thing as WoW but I have higher hopes for Palia
I honestly hope it's a subscription model and not freemium though
With a team this experienced, I'm sure they're giving the payment system and economy a great deal of thought.
alas, discord doesn't let you copy emojis
Anyway. More money in the hands of the companies I want to make my game = A good thing.
So me, myself, have absolutely no problem with having to buy Palia AND having to pay a monthly sub, if that is what it takes to keep a game (I hope Palia will be) alive and well, without the need to push advertisement og XP booster ect. my way.
i just hope palia is a one time purchase
it lets you copy them into other servers, so I just copied it into a server im alone in so I can grab it any time
Do we know if Palia will have DLCs?
one time purchase is increasingly less compatible with ongoing costs of games
I'm not convinced Palia will even have a subscription model.
Unless you go for microtransactions on top
isnt it a little bit early to talk about DLC??
No?
the game is in pre-alpha
We know almost nothing about that, but honestly it makes sense to develop further content. Not just to keep us happy, but to generate funding for the game.
Cheese dimension DLC when
I agree on this tho
Every game must have a future plan to sustain it?
i don't think they have talked about dlc
You men expansions?
They’ve said they plan on releasing and adding to the story, no talk of dlc, hope that answers your question
but i think its a lttle early to talk about dlc
maybe lets first focus on actually getting a complete palia XD before we talk about DLC's
Pretty sure I replied to the wrong person up there, but chat is moving quickly!
i doubt there will be DLC with this type of game
true XD
just good updates 🙂
Why wouldn't there be?
ah entered edit mode and was able to grab it too
I feel like it's a bit early for planning DLC or expansions but I imagine the team is working on ideas for seasonal events and such to keep the game fresh.
I hope not! I personally hate all the small €1-5 DLC's
dlc/expansions are basically the same thing
well there can be something like new clothes.
I do not agree
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that would be like a prem shop thing not a paid expansion/dlc though
I mean we are on the topic of subscriptions. Vs. Paying for the game. Expansions and payable DLCs are also a way games make money
As the game grows, I'm sure they will want to add new regions. New NPCs and quests. That sort of thing.
true, but the game isnt even near finished yet
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I’m sure they have a plan for the future but they have not elaborated
well thats true.
It would be nice if they added everything for free of course but I thought I would just ask..
well i see a dlc as a mini expansion
Good morning Palianaughts. May the week bring happyness and Alpha invites to you all.
same! all those little dlcs in ESO made me go crazy. make packs for 15-20€ and I'm happy (as long as the content is good) but dont make me buy five different things for a little bit of money each
Not much can or should be free nowadays, something has to make money, but one can hope!
just dont let it become something like the sims
IMO
DLC = Content you can choose to buy that add's something extra to the game, but don't need to play the game.
Expansion = Expands on the base game that you need to be able to play.
how Sea of Thieves does paid content is the best way in my opinion
How do sea of thieves do it?
expansions are DLC, but DLC isn't necessarily an expansion
As long as they don't go full on EA at us, I'll probably be happy. The Sims situation is disgusting. Especially since "kits" came along.
You can both earn and purchase prem currency to purchase cosmetic items in a rotating store
you mean pay for the game and then an ingame cosmetics shop?
yea in that way i would rather have dlc because the you are not forced to pay it
Purly cosmetic and things like pets, that just adds flavor to you game. But you don't need them to play.
But they would not be able to change the story for everyone then.
any news about wave 2?
thats what call of duty does too. you pay for tha base game. and then you can pay extra for cosmetics (IF YOU WANT TO)

none yet
Non stated, TBD
no
I wonder if I'll be able to become a seamstress. I saw a dressform in the trailer. How cool would it be to have my own little dress shop where other players could buy my crafted clothes!?
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I'm 100% sure that you will be able to tailor clothes and armor.
Conan Exiles DLC's had themes that included building, clothes, and decor styles. Didn't effect the core game. You could also trade those items to players who didn't buy the DLC. I kinda liked that system
COD was pretty notorious for locking extra content behind paywalls too, at least in terms of it's zombies and multiplayer maps
btw guys if it will be possible to do some kind of rp who would you like to play as?
huh? i have never had to pay extra for new maps or whatever, just cosmetic stuff o.o
I'll be RPing my usual cast of characters, whether people want to hang out with me or not! lol
COD is not the way. -Mando
I need more insight in what this game will actually be before I start making an RP char.
I only have the name atm. Crafter Gemheart 🙂
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plus a lot of the COD games are still close to their initial release price on PC
k but as who i mean hunter builder cooker...
<--- Altoholic, so all of the above.
well crafter is nice if its possible i would like to be hunter
yup, they are money hoggers. thats 100% true, hence why i dont buy any cosmetics packs lol
that begs the question of if it really is. If new core gameplay content is locked behind a pay wall for a game you already purchased is it really the same price?
well thats a good answer
You can supply Maya with leather then 😄
A chef! With my own restaurant 
well now i can support maya with leather and pacmaniac with meat XD
and jake too
Got any specialties in you restaurant?
well i would be grateful for fish 😗
Imma going to RP an apiarist. 🐝🐝🐝
I am very interested in gardening/farming and baking, so those will probably be the first things I try!
I love playing support classes but with this game being more passive and chill I'd love to be an herbalist or farmer <3
I can't wait to see the potential routes for players to pursue. Especially for RP.
This is going to be the biggest rp haven! I'm so jazzed!
well I've got Hot Chuucolate and Chapaacchino, but also a lot of meals made from local produce and freshly hunted goods. I also have a supplier for honey and someone who'll get me fresh fish so I have a variety of things! 😄 and an open-flame grill for the best meat in town! :3
I gotta head out for a bit, you lovelies behave now while I’m gone 
same i want to make food for others in the neighborhood
Definitely! Have like a fresh produce stall with a big cart of CABBAGES! And fresh jam and pies!
MY CABBAGEEEEES
We won't be spoiled for restaurant choice I wager. And that's goooood, I do plan to be a glorious fishmonger. ;D
i have promised people that if i can i will make cheesecake for everyone in my neighborhood
Oooh, I will be stopping by often to get some nice fish for pies!
I would like 1 x homemade honey glazed ham and 1 x Chuucolate and Chapaacchino for dessert, please 😄
i will also come and buy your fish
I love that I get to be here and get to know you folks before we get into this game. It feels like we'll be starting this together and I love it!
right away! As soon as we can play the game I'll get that for you 
well hope to be your neighbor
the discord is the true pre-alpha, as someone said in here at some point 
and i will sell you meat or leather (if possible ) for lower price<3
i would not mind traveling to another neighborhood if you are not in mine
naah
a travelling cheesecake-merchant!!!
I will travel for a good cheesecake!
dont you worry i will be hunter so i will travel a lot 😛
I WILL MAKE THE BEST CHEESECAKE IN THE WORLD
And now, you better live up to that vow. 😉
I'll leave a red painted pebble at my front gate. It means that I want cheesecake that day 😛
I will 100% i promise you that
i will be looking for you and hope to get some
jam and cake we would be good traveling partners
We will be best buddies!
i would love trading cake for Jam
What kinds of Jams will you make?
If possible, I want to grow berries and have peach, cherry, and apple trees.
And oranges & lemons!
(Daaang, TIL fishmongers take their craft crazy seriously, to the point the companies have their own registered heraldric liveries)
A whole Orchard?! 
Absolutely! I love the idea of growing all of my own ingredients!
That's a cool Jam you got going on
I still want a chapaa launcher
I'm so jelly of what people will imagine
i am moving to yemen
hope to meet you in the game as soon as possible
i would love to have a pet chapaa he can be my mascot
The amount of my future Pals will be a jarring
i'm still reserving a spot for your storytelling in my restaurant
I will spread my stories from far and wide!
Imagine all of us meeting in Jayke's restaurant to hang out together!
thats the dream!!!
that would be awesome
if im invited 😛
I expect for Maya to make a Jam Jam
oh course! Everyone is invited! 😄
I genuinely hope jam making is a thing!
oh awesome ❤️
I will make some for all of you!
❤️
elderflower? 
Can my payment at the restaurant be to teach you how to make the best dessert
Gasp! I wish!!!!
Elderflower snaps! Soooo good! 😋
elderflower macaroons!! So good
everything with elderflower basically
Good morning ppl, any news about the alpha test?
when i think about elderflower i think that would be perfect at a picnic
what is elderflower?
Not that I know of, no.
Do you know the website called Google?
well yea but you say its good for picnic and all i see is flower 😛
😆 Well yeah.. It is a flower. But you can get extract from it and use that in your cooking and stuff.
ooh k XD ty
yea i had to search for it because we call it something else where i come from
Also the berries are very nice to make hot soup out of during fall
Ooo ive heard of using elderberries but not elderflowers. Is it a similar vibe?
Maybe I will try the art contest... and sneak a jar of jam into the pic.
how do you call it?
Good morning all o/
hi
in germany its called Holunder
cant even compare that to the word "elderflower"
The flowers are much sweeter and give a yellowish tint. not red
we call it Hyldeblomst/Hyldeblomstsaft
dutch?
Yesss
I wonder if I'll be able to make danishes... and muffins. I love muffins. And scones (for the jam of course).
Is it the same in the Netherlands?

This is where my mind wandered to as well. 😆
anyone interested in opening a bakery? 😄
yesssssss
oh no i was asking if the word Hyldeblomst was dutch, I'm from germany, we call it "Holunder" over here
Me! I think I mentioned it a while ago. I started this whole jam fixation with pie and growing berries.
I would be visiting all the time for dough.
If we can create custom foods with home grown ingredients, I don't know if I'd be able to pick! A winery? Bakery? Satisfying hearty meals? I'd love it all
Imagine it being so articulated that you could craft your own beers.
Lovely Jimrah will make all the wonderful cakes and desserts. I will handle pies and pastries. We'll be an unstoppable force!
That much freedom would be so awesome 😄
YESSS i was just about to say that
Sweet Jimrah and Savoury Maya they'll call us!
If it can be done in Minecraft, it can be done here 😉 🤞
Ah, the seemingly common ground of all those who love palia: Food 
They won't actually call us that, but you get the idea!
why not?
you can deliver some of them to my restaurant and I will sell them as well, get a good cooperation going 
It conflicts with my jam ideals.
I think it could be fun if making food is an actual mini-game. Not just "you have flower, milk, eggs, ect. in your inventory", Craft cake.
But that you have to prepare and add the ingredients at after each other. You can put whatever you want in it. But it might not be good, or it might be amazing 😛
100%
writing your name down on my suppliers list 
I see a wonderful trade circle in our collective future.
There's a whole group of chefs on here, accursed timezones keeping you apart. If you'd all meat, our tastebuds would be in for a treat 
yea me too and i will watch all of your trade while fishing XD
may we create culinary masterpieces for everyone!
yea i would love having that or something like ffxiv crafting system
I don't know it sadly. But it sounds awesome.
There's a lot of crafting of food and other materials in No Man's Sky. The 'ingredients' are far and wide, thus you have people acting as supply chains, brokers, managers, for a co-op or even for themselves. I'd love to see similar ideas here. Especially since those 'secondary acts' are going to be the 'main focus' here 😄
I'm genuinely excited!!!
and I will buy your fish! 🐟
Secondary acts... that's a good way to put it.
Gingerbread houses?
I think the only thing we're missing is a proper butcher.
i like all of you but now you r the best ❤️
in ffxiv you have like a hotbar with abilities to make a good product
its hard to explain
"if you'd all meat" lol
so what professions do we have rn?
Now we're all going to be scrambling once we're in game to be your first customer!
Sounds like some sort of combo system. I'll just look it up 🙂
well hope to taste your jam 🙂
It was right there for the picking
I'll have some jam ready for you, and you get my first fish pie! ❤️
you got it
oh man you guys are really keeping me away from studying, but its just so much more fun to hang out with you lol, but i do have to leave now, my first exam is in two days and I have to study a bit more. I wish you a good timezone and until the next time! 
Come get your precious gemstones at Crafter Gemheart™️ Cut or uncut, all colors and shapes. Or if you are more into beautifully colored pebbles, like Einar, we can work that out too. We even let you color your own rocks!
do we have a animal farm where we can get stuff like eggs?
Does anyone know, if the pre-alpha is under NDA? 🙂
It is.
wish you good luck at your exam
I hope so. I really want some chickens, cause I'm going to need lots of eggs.
Daaang.... But thanks! 🙂
same we can't have a bakery with no eggs
What I understand it is under Media NDA. So they can't stream or share anything about mechanics . But they can tell you if they think it is good or beautiful
We'll definitely need a cow as well.
Thanks for the answer mate! 🙂 I was hoping for some streams and media 😉 😉
Don't we all 😛
We will make our own little farm behind the store
I think you're right
Okay, we definitely have to live in the same neighbourhood now. How do you feel about lakeside cabins somewhere where it snows in winter?
We can knit jumpers for the cows and chickens!
We need to come up with a secret handshake cause we're besties now!
Speaking of which, I really hope the game has fun emotes!
Considering it is a social game I would hope so too.
Same i hope like you can unlock emotes somehow maybe behind an achievement i would love to have a really rare emote
well why not but i need soem kind of river or lake XD
i t would be hard fishing without fih and water XD
I've been dreaming of a snowy lakeside cabin in game since I started playing MMOs. I just really hope this is where I get one!
Sounds like an anime I know
well its sounds like a nice place
Lakes have excellent fishing 🙂
then we can make a snowman and have snowball fights
it would be awesome
Yaaaaay!!!
Berries will grow nicely there. This will be perfect!
You rang?
The only thing I see as a problem right now, is that we don't know anything specific. So our imagination can just roam free and create all kinds of expectations for us. I just hope we don't get disappointing. I have tried that too many times by now. It is not fun... 😦
I really am jelly I want to play so bad
Anticipate the worst, hope for the best. That's what I'm doing right now, especially considering the poor track record of upcoming MMOs.
I'm just daydreaming, of course. But I do think we can get a really nice crafting circle going between us!
well all we can do i pray to creators to do something similar as we are talking about 😛
As long as we keep in mind that the game might be more limited than we'd like, I think it's great fun to just imagine the possibilities~
Ya'll need an RP room.
I'll be roleplaying a lot, I hope.
Right??? The whole MMO landscape feels like a sloppy wasteland of broken promises and microtransactions... oh my gosh, it's Reno, Nevada...
Yeah this is very true
Does anyone know when wave 2 will go out?
to be honest if just like 20% of the things i have been daydreaming about happened i would be happy
nah
Same!
we have no idea
Yo
same
Is anyone playing it?
yo yo lucioooooo
also not officially declared
Don't jump the hype train... It's OK to stand on the platform and look at the beautiful train... Just do not get on it ... yet!
alpha testers but they cant tell anything
Same.
Darn

200 people have the tester role it is under nda so we don't know much
I was hoping to live vicariously
Gonna have to wait a bit for that ^^
Darn xD well maybe in a few weeks
I really love the aesthetic in the game trailer. Feels so happy! Warm and inviting!
They said 1400 people will be pre-alpa testers, so there's a couple waves to come, no timespan declared
I’m sure they get some early access items and goodies too 😦
They dont, confirmed by a team answer already
So do I. Can't wait to RP in such a world.
Same
Also I think testers are chosen by area. Atm. I think it is only North and South Americans right?
whaaat? rly?
Also not confirmed, but here's what they said about pre-alpha tester rewards: #❓│old-team-answers-alpha message
I hope they have a nice, reliable host for the servers.
My speculation is purly based on the people here I have seen with the pre-alpha tester role 😛
Mine too, but speculations spread like wildfire and turn into what people believe are facts
So I always try to keep answers to officially answered ones, you know?
The saddest part for me is some of the most active chatters/speculators are now testing the game so they can’t comment anymore because they know the answer to a lot of our speculations lol
Poop
Sadly
I mean you can tell it's quieter as of late in here xD
This is the quiet version?
So they cant say anything? Even hi?
But that's also why I always use "I think" and "I'm not sure, but" 😛
This is very much the quiet version, ~100+ regulars aren't in here anymore
Well milky and such says hi but anything further is just off topic for this chat
they can talk but not about the game
Me before alpha: Imagine if...
Me if I get accepted: Imagine if...
they can only tell somehtink like. This game is awesome but nothing more
Hello! I just discovered Palia and the Discord and am so excited about this project! I have so many questions and can see that many have already been answered... I have lots of catching up to do!
It's just safer for them not to say anything cause as soon as they say "hi" - in comes the "HOWS TESTING"
And if your not talking about the game your not supposed to talk in here, just is what it is lol
Welcome Seagrey!
hi
Oh I see what your all saying
Welcome welcome!
Thank you!
Welcome to the wait xD
That said… I hope that more invites in the coming weeks timer has started now that testing is a thing. May our emails be blessed
Welcome to the pre pre Alpha! 😛
Nope, it's confirmed we will get no exclusive goodies, infact I fully expect all of us to be wiped at launch and we will be moreless regular players 
Do we just look for palia in our emails?
you will get a role on the discord server
As stated in #📢│palia-news wave 1 had no email
Expect contact via discord more than anything
Oh I see
Make sure you filled out second survey in #📢│palia-news
I think once the role has served it's purpose, it'll be destroyed at the end....
I haven't been this excited for an MMO since EverQuest Next!
I don’t know how to check that. I did
Click your name
Any Alpha/Beta Testing phase involves wiping, so if and when we get in, it's best to just learn what we can and help the devs test everything
is "soon™️" yet?
Not soon enough :((

drat
What games are you guys on now?
currently? or like my recent obsession?
A lot.
Both
I really like gamepass, grounded and Phogs... xD
Translation: What games are we passing the time in until we can play Palia?
Grounded Is so underrated
I am actually in the process of making a list of games to prioritize which ones to get through first. 12 so far.
Dragon Age: Inquisition is my obsession and im currently on Star Wars old republic
I wanna get Grounded but my SO has severe arachnophobia xD @faint dawn
Yeah
there is an arachnophobia filter for grounded.
chapaas are threatening my life, send help
Once you get over that and start killing them it becomes an experiance to enjoy. 
I've been back to playing Overwatch in my freetime but am hyped for Skyward Sword HD to come out~
It’s shocking but good they have it
mmo's story games and whatever my friends are playing
She flees the room if there's a 3mm spider, she aint killing one 10 times her size xD
Hd? Sounds cool. Loved the original
hence the arachnophobia filter in the game
U can make the filter more or less if I am mistaken and the spider turns into a ball at the end
same i will do nothing else but play it untill i am done
I'll look into that, thank you 
its just a check box as far as i know
If I play anything these days, it's just poking around the Sims, building houses. I ducked out of a lot of my games for now. The chats have become overwhelmingly toxic. I hope Palia has a strong team of in game moderators to smack the trolls.
I love over watch my main was mecree for a long time
They must have changed it
i play all the supports
I main Mercy and DVa. But I only play casually.
Goode morning
well i didnt check the box so maybe its a setting that activates once you check it?
That’s for sure. I want a game I can make good friends on. Fortnite has let me down
Fortnite; AKA the online kindergarten
Same, dva is op but I couldn’t get her down as good as mcree
LotRO used to be a safe haven. At least on the server I stuck to. But it's been overrun and I just can't be bothered to log in.
rip
That’s toxic talk right there. Don’t hate , there’s a lot of older people that play it still. But they are toxic . It’s sad.
the only time i heard about people being toxic in here was when the first invite wave was here
Has anyone ever played maple story???
no i always wanted to try it
It's been a looong time but I loved that game.
That game is kinda fun but I quit cause my account was banned
I think the way the game seems to be set up will act as both a lure and a deterrent. We won't be dealing much with the angsty grind-monkies, but I think bored trolls will want to come pester us because people mistake passive people for easy targets.
Good times good times hahaha
Are there any people here planning on organising for a neighbourhood or some group at least for Palia? Or is it too early for that?
i want to troll but not like in a bad way i would to like throw a cake at someone so they are blind for 5 sec or something like that
are there servers open right now
We don't know, it's in its pre alpha state.
Adorable pranking isn't trolling. You can cake me in the face anytime!
A test server with 200 people I think
well well well.
hello there friends! finally got home
@celest maple I know there's a couple neighborhoods already
oh yea pranking is probally a better word for it
It says they released the first wave of invites in announcing forums
A Swedish neighbourhood would be interesting.
The trick is to add a mischievous giggle!
we dont know much because the game is under nda
my guess is I havent been invited then
gasps will you bring us the lords of IKEA?
Did you fill out the questions?
i want an emote with a evil laugh
yep
yep
an overwatch rhyme
Same there were two sets though
hai nomi . 3 .
hi chair 
Dang we could get a team going here
Something that would be super fun to set up is pranks to welcome people to the neighbourhoods. I grew up on a tiny island town, and the local youth group would welcome families with kids by leaving a nice note in their mailbox and then forking their lawn. Or ding dong ditching but leaving like a party favour style treat bag with a note.
The IKEA chair overlords
Oh no.. not the IKEA
The Swedish meatballs
Lingonberry army
All I can imagine is just a giant fork stuck in the lawn and the elderly yelling "Get the fork off my lawn!"
that would be nice
We've just had a new neighbour move in and she's put a little garden gnome out on her front stoop. I really want to make a little wife gnome and sneak it into her yard. The add a baby gnome every few weeks!
I think there's a legitimate group of people that intend to do exactly that lol
G2G I’ll get on later and say high. 😄 peace guys.
That happened too but more often the kids would get wise to the pranks and meet the pranksters with water guns and silly string!
omg

https://prankhome.fandom.com/wiki/Forking_a_Yard
first time hearing this
WHAT XD
Lolol aw
YES! Please update us if you do!
legend
It's fun to spell out words too. Usually we would say 'WELCOME' or 'Happy birthday!'
omg did Ashura (2) win the votes?
I haven't found the perfect rock yet to use as a base weight. Have to make her weatherproof! Maybe Einar can help me...
I love this idea so much
Nel i looked... dont give me false hope like that...
don't look nel
no honey.. no..
ignorance is bliss, he's the champ of our hearts since he said eeb
Eeb...
I looked too. One day the big blacksmith lookin dude/tte will win 😦
one day we will see him... one day
thats ashura he runs the tavern from the trailer from what we know
nah
OHHH. That guy! That makes sense (though what is he leaning on if he runs the tavern?)
Yo
hes been in the votes from day 1 and he's still in jail 😔
thats a mop
That is so much less exciting than a giant hammer.
we can wish
when will the big boy get revealed
idk i like ashura and his mop
everyone else don't amtter
He still gets my vote every time, but I get why people aren't voting for him now since there is at least a little known
I want Ashura as an adopted father figure who gives me sage advice when I am drunk. 😄
I've been voting him for weeks 
There's a little known about the girl on the right too
we saw her in the picnic pic, or at least we think we did
the only one we havent seen at all is 1 and they have the least votes
i hope you go to the tavern and he just keep telling you dad jokes
Oh the short-haired one? I singled her out right away! I want to draw her!
Maybe if they all get equal votes, they all get revealed immediately? 😄
Yeah short hair girl
I think she has asymmetrical hair which is what people focused on
I so need this! ❤️
Man do we have Nel lore
Things we know about Nel:
- Can write backwards
- Cries a lot (from happiness)
- Wants Ashura to win (please)
am i missing important Lore™️?
How’s everyone doing? I’m on break!
Milky lore tho 👀
ooh you re back hi
Good! Just got back from a run
Hi tophi do you have any toffee im hungry
Wants Ashura to win (please)
please
Yes hello again!
🐐
Ohh how was it? A Palian run? (So hard to not get off topic in here haha)
has two dogs, is beautiful inside and out, wants us to pay her in memes, her first language is spanish
Haha yes, gotta spend my days in Palia going for light jogs around the neighborhoods
Another card that doesn't say ashura
f
I'm here to say I'm immediately in love with Kenyatta
"loves everything her momes hates" XD it killed meXD
wait wait wait.. her Path ? is that the name of specializations?
"Loves everything her Mom hates" Loooooooool 😄
Ohh Kenyatta is a free spirited one eh
Path??
YESSS my baby got her reveal c:
LEZGOOOOOOOOOOO
Excellent question!
OH SNAP
who said she's eshe's daughter? congrats
0.o
kenyatta best villager
"Hasn't declared her Path", so "Path" is our term for classes?
Path???
by far
good additions
Kenyatta looks aaaamazing! 😍
the way Path has a capital makes me think it's the name of specializations / classes yes
Im guessing a profession tree you can learn faster or something.
shes my wife :v
Everyone after reading the new character: "Path?"
prob something like a job what she wants to do in her live

well hassian has helping with armor and hunting so it can be his path
mommy issues
prob something like role idk to be honest
Lmao
oh kenyatta fucking rocks
I was just about to ask what a Path is, but I now assume no one knows for sure.
i love her so much T.T
It made pastel come back to this channel, she has to be important
yeah we have no info yet on that afaik
We're all just excited for any tidbits of information 
please vote big boy next tim
i will
we need him
Big boy now
I will too
shes cute but i feel like young adult will make her unromanceable?
I'm ready to declare my Path... as soon as I have the game xD
Ahhh, I love Kenyatta. She's so cuute.
Ashura this time maybe?
her facial features also look similar to real life... hm... i want to say chinese faces cause im chinese but im really bad at figuring these things out
in any case shes like a kind-of-asian rep and i love that
Right
Well she likes to hang at the stables she must be a fun character to meet
i dont think so, young adult is supposed to be 20-25 years maybe?
ay yo my Path will be shortest one leading to Kenyatta
That's Jel's age range so it's still possible
yeah id say 20ish, shes def not a child
Not going to lie, but with those legs any path will be short 😄
I don't know I'm pretty sure young adult is still romanceable. If you think in terms of the Sims games, Young Adult is still an adult. Not a teen or child.
my too
I love the boots!
thats what a young adult is to me as well, but as the other lady is an adult and romanceable?
Young adult is probs 18+
Yeah I think she'll be romanceable for sure.
adult +30 to me, in my head both should be romanceable but we will not now yet
If they age the same
Kenyatta has some serious vibes
well, that's where things get complicated for us, hoomans.
'Loves everything her mom hates' Love it! A teenager or young adult finding their way starts out like this. Love the idea
ive adopted her as my sister now
Plus she hangs out at the stables... so Mounts 🙂
Yessss let's dissect all the info
i love your profile pic soooo much 
cool big sister energy
c:
Kenyatta is a young adult so not a minor.
Thanks Neleimour!
ay yo we can smash!
Nel next time just say Ashura won regardless of the votes... please... let him go free
ty nel c:
She's so cute. My boyfriend won't mind if I date her maybe 👀
The childs are minors?
awww thank you, she was my baby
children are minors, yes
now we all have to vote for ashura
i'm just curious about the Path and if it means something more or if we are being bamboozled again 
You have my axe
if you all dont vote big boi next I riot
faq docs Mounts and Pets:
We see these categories as "Fast Travel" and "Pets". Both are in the roadmap in some form
also vote ashura again 
path capitalised definitely hints to something 
Yeah she definitely helps with mounts
Ashura Ashura 
gotta be right? right?
btw is it confirmed that they r the characters that we will play as? or no?
no, they are npcs
ASHURA 
they are npcs in the world
ooh k
Well Magisters are judges right? So presumably she hasn't really decided if she wants to follow in her family's footsteps or pursue a different career aka path. 🤔
Teenks, glad to see you back for this short period btw, i hope she's important heheh
so they will probably help you with something a mean assian will be for hunter prob
i need a romance with big boi ashura
Loves everything her mom hates
lmaooo
im always lurking :P i just dont wanna do something stupid and accidentally leek things haha
Hahah makes sense :3
That's fair, is the general fear, but the channel became more quiet after that sadly
New prealpha tester lore: they actually know some things that are under nda
(i kinda thought you guys were just as in the dark as us tbh)
Does kinda beg the question on do you have to pick a path ?
ty guys for answering me and have a good day/night bye

testers have been quiet lately, must be for a reason 
Its ok im here to keep the chat alive
i dont know how to stop typing
Undeclared college majors 😆
I liek when u type
I don't know how to sleep
weird
Why
they did mention you can be a jack of all trades though you can specialize (i think?) so i'd think specializing in something is your path
Could be! Or maybe you can pick a "main" path which would focus more of your skillsets on, but maybe also be able to take on other and level paths or sub-paths like animal husbandry, etc.
Rin is the MVP these last weeks
awww ill blush
Rin the best boi
Best cat
a
Rin doesn’t sleep
fun fact: did you know Rin has (un)official minifigure?
🤔
I do sleep
just not when im supposed to
I believe Dungeon Siege did it this way, iirc. Where you focus on individual skills, rather than a set class with specific skill sets.
same.. going to bed when sun's coming up 
Seconded!
I'm getting into ESO and tbh I kinda like how they do skills there
you get skill trees and skill points and you can kinda just do whatever you want
Are you a nightblade (assassin)? Do you want to spec into a staff? go for it. you can be a heavy armor axe-wielding sorcerer if you want. you can throw your points into crafting skills and just get super good at that.
Is there any news on the next wave of invites?
Oehh kenyatta i like her
there arent a lot of skills per tree but i still enjoy it

So pretend we knew what the Paths are. What Path would you take?
Kenyatta, Loves everything her Mom hates. I think we will get along Girl. 😂
Okay now we vote Ashura!!!
Fishing
We don't know anything about when they'll be, sorry
Path of the Minstrel
what do you mean now ? you haven't been voting for best boi? 
Kenyattas face looks a lot different than on the picnic picture though

i cant claim to be a day 1 ashura voter but ive voted for him since the second set of villager votes
i am making a bakery with Maya
So does ashura's, they're art
I have the past 4 votes
👏 heck ye
Gotta go back to work. Cya!
I think ive voted for him the last three
I'd love to choose a Path of raising or training animals!
Yes yes he did now reveal him please
I just wanna do music stuff
but thats probably not a skill so...
Maybe there's a Path for being a stay-at-home, responsible kind of guy. You might even call it the Way of the Househusband
please watch/read way of the househusband
Busy chat! Looks like I am not the only one feeling the hype!
I’d love to do something with a focus on cooking! Maybe gardening or raising animals also
Really hope they implement music in a fun way
Okay everyone who voted 3 pls take your vote from 3 and switch it to 2 they wont notice i swear
Cooking would be neat
I wanna learn how to cook irl
...And to be a responsible person irl...
Hey you!!
Im 22 and I live like animal, don't worry Rin
offal your picture is cute
I wanna be a responsible person irl, and I have kids of my own 🤦♀️
That would be Rufus. He is the king of my street and a dear friend!
Cooking is super fun, once you get into it you can't stop. It's fun tinkering with dishes, finding new ways to cook things and assembling meals.
I'm sorry.. resporsibrle? what's that word even?
He looks adorable tell Rufus I love him
I will absolutely tell him the next time I see him!
Ah, another person in the parent squad. I'm not one myself, but there are a lot of parents in here
Kids are honestly the best part of my life. They are amazing tiny humans, but I always feel like I have no clue what I'm doing.
I hope you’re able to achieve that dream someday!
I have enough nieces and nephews that I can borrow. I don't need any of my own. 😄
Good to know I'm not the only old person here 😜
My kinda-step-nephew was staying over the other day and he woke up in the middle of the night and I had no idea how to deal with him...
He basically managed to force me to play with him for like an hour and a half. At 1 AM.
Old? No, no, darling. "Seasoned!"
Mama Mia, Kenyatta is a cutie
Ohhhh, Kenyatta is baaae 
Evening everyone 💖💕💓
There's a lot of seasoned people here heheheh
I have claimed Kenyatta as my older sister now
She rocks
i lov her
I sure hope Eshe hates me...
She’s adorable 😊
i cant wait for you guys to meet her in game T.T
actually does her face look more korean rather than chinese...? i mean it doesnt matter cause its a fantasy world but im SO bad at telling ethnicities
gah
Well aged? Like a fine cheese, or a fine wine. Right?
I want to be in a position where Eshe secretly adores me like her own kin, but pretends not to just to keep up appearances.
"you guys"
so testing has started, then
that's what i was thinking but i didnt wanna expose lmao
And yes omg Kenyatta is adorable 🥺
so if yall look at the official art, you can see some places look to have an asian influence in the architecture
Ethnicity is irrelevant when you're a purple elf.
They don't talk to us anymore Rin, don't scare them off more
Exactly! Wisdom and experience are important traits! Age is irrelevant to me. I only care about whether or not people are jerks! 😄
Oh yeah S6 said Ghibli was a huge inspiration
...but will we be able to have open-concept kitchens and living rooms xD
Sorry I just got excited :(
ghibli is a good thing to get inspired by
Don't make milky leave us too rin :C
I would like to thank those who voted for the Kenyatta reveal
Gotta show the big guy some love next
Milky is good at keeping secrets and hes too nice to leave us
heck ye vote ashura 
I really hope that if I craft a nice bedspread or a sofa cushion, I can dye it different colors.
She is so pretty
His name is Ashura and we love him 
Touche
Ashura is most pretty.
You’re welcome
im like 70% sure he tells dad jokes
I need his dad jokes in my life.
I loooove Kenyatta
someone called me?
ashura has been on my mind more than i'd like to admit these past few days
i need to know more
How are we today folks? ; v;
I had heard dad joke
How do we vote for a character?
sleepy kinda
I've been voting for him since the 1st villager vote, everytime a new one starts it makes me more sad
Using the reactions under the image! Since they just did a reveal, might wanna wait for the next one 😄
Big man needs big love.
a villager vote will start in #📮│public-polls , and a few days later the winning vote gets revealed
Nel posts a vote in #📮│public-polls at some point
just react with the number corresponding to the character
they get totalled up and the one with the most gets revealed on monday
in #📮│public-polls you select the number related to the person in the image
Thanks!
You’ll see it in #📮│public-polls c:
we're too helpful lol
Whats a path? Did I miss anythinb
sorry we all just said the same thing
If yall don't vote Ashura even now I'm rioting 😩
Agreed lol
Free Ashura
We don't know but we're assuming it kinda means something like path in life. like a career or something
It's still a warm and cozy place where you can ask anything c:
gotta get some more info on Ashura
Ashura deserves to step into the light 
I'm going to nose around the discord and get familiar with things. Nice meeting you all!
#Justice4Ashura

I don't know... the other guy in the vote hasn't been shown anywhere else yet
Welcome, and enjoy 
Oh Offal, do you need to know more about the game as well? There are a couple of documents that can help
I am SO glad you're here! I've missed you!
She's probably still thinking what she wants to do
No! Don't give people ideas!
its kinda funny how many people want ashura yet he never wins the vote T.T
Please!
But have we seen the mop? Vote for mop reveal
Is Ashura the character that gave the mc the map in the trailer?
i think it's mostly the regular discord crowd that votes Ashura, but then the people that come to the ping vote the others
Hop into the #🎨│old-palia-fan-art channel, it's a good chance to learn stuff related to art, no one is hostile there either, you can hone your skills quite a bit
Okay! This is for everyone that's new or just wants to learn more.
Here are two docs you might wanna look at!
This is the one I made. I tried to answer the questions most people have here.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N61pu4gGNSrHTJ_UElbqk2FPl2QaN-hGJ3S5CYg4nzM/edit?usp=sharing
If you want something more detailed, here's Vlad's. It's a compilation of all the dev answers in the now-defunct #ask-the-team channel.
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1ECHPsDvyC0KP6ldYRaeFtmR0mhwBVGckWEPcH_zNc7E
Defi
ooh yeah Fenixer, mind if i dm u for some questions?
OH YOU DID, I FORGOT ABOUT IT, SORRY
Sorry for it being copypasted it just helps a lot cause im on mobile
so is an general agreement that Kenyatta is adorable and we all want to do some quest with her
?
Looks like I have a lot of studying to do!
NO PROBLEM

Everyone in community art is very helpful and supportive
Have fun Offal! if you like that sort of thing
Remember you can ask around in here too, the people here have nothing better to do are really helpful!
Gack
Hello
What
Hi!!!
How are you today
hi
omg hi dad i havent seen you in a bit
I'm good, just a bit tired :) It's 1:30 AM over here. How are you?
Speak of Dad Jokes and the DadJoke appears!
Hahaha oh in good, about to eat dinner
I'm really bad at remembering timezones... I don't know where it's dinnertime. Somewhere in EU, maybe...?
Can I just say Kenyatta is chefs kiss 
Yah its the dadjoke himself he actually has kids and also actually tells us dad jokes
noice, kenyatta looks cool. Now when can I vote for Ashura?
Huh I’m exact opposite of you, it’s 1:30 PM here
Oh my goodness, I think I'm in love with Kenyatta
"Loves everything her mom hates." -- looool, what a mood.
Ah yeah EST is twelve hours away from GMT+8
I memorised this thanks to having lots of American friends and acquaintances
it sure seems like support for "romancing villagers" has gone way up in the last 15 minutes.
its dinnertime in eu
Oh thanks :)
same I am gonna make her mom hate me
Kenyatta will be super fun to interact with I bet. Secret exploring quests, anyone?
For me it was Hassian 
next vote he's winning
Did you see those thigh high boots???! How am I supposed to not encourage romancing villagers after that? Thigh. High. Boots.
Hahaha!! I just want to be her weird friend who gets dragged along on adventures.
Hassian and Kenyatta be out here making everyone question their preferences
I love men but hot damn Kenyatta can GET IT
It's the thigh high boots, I'm telling you.
ugh SAME lmao
It's just face for me
For me it's her face
She just looks so beautiful
I want to romance her, then steal her boots
Yep, the fit is 
I've been wanting to draw her since I spotted her in the trailer. Now I feel like I MUST DRAW HER.
she looks cool
and fingers
I support you in this endeavor.
SHE WAS IN THE TRAILER? WHERE
She's made of beautifulz
you can all have her Jel is mine
this is one of the few times ive seen this chat not be 100% wholesome lmfao
I'm gonna be honest I'm not super into any of the romance options right now, like, as far as actually romancing them goes
But I will say they're all hot as hell baby!!!!
wdym, it's wholesome all the time
i want to plaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
It's wholesome on my end. I am immuned to thigh high boots.
STEAL BOOTS. ROMANCE.
The kenyatta effect

Thigh high boots chafe a bit :(
honestly kinda same to be real, but we’ll see when the game comes out lol
I don't remember if my boots are knee or thigh highs...
I'm all about romancing NPCs, honestly. I just like developing relationships like that, and I love having the option. Option being key word - it would suck if it was mandatory or something, but I sincerely doubt they'd do that. It's just fun to play around, live out your fantasies...
yeah as long as its optional im all for it
i dont want it to give any game benefits either. dont leave the aros out!!!
Agreed.
Yep, definitely!
My bad, I meant the promo art! The one where all the characters are sitting under a tree having a drink together.
Ah yeah the picnic!
We’ve got most of the characters from the picnic now right?
missing the flower lady
not ashura and pie lady 😔
I'm never going to vote for ashura mostly cause I feel like I already have most of his info sussed out in my head and I don't for the others. Just keeps it interesting.
She is a threat to my pie shop! GET HER!
he deserves to be free :(
He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Revealed
You could work together with her :)
make a bigger even cooler pie shop where the uniform is thigh highs
Horses
#2!
Aww I didn’t see that art before, Ashura looks so nice and grandfatherly
Kenyatta looks so cool 😭 And she likes HORSES
I want a lil info about ashura, who knows he could have hidden details!
Do we know who the woman with the glasses is?
Jina
No the other one
just discovered this game due to youtube recs and OMFG I AM SO XCITED
but cries in mac
oh. dunno
Maybe they'll release for mac... they said they wanted to release on as many platforms as possible, I think.
I would say a mac conversion would be high priority.
Wait, horses and "path"???
I have a mac but i literally only use it to record my singing because i dont know how to use fl studio for that lol
yay!
We dont know what a Path is, but the general consensus seems to be something like a career or the direction of someone's life
dual booting Windows on your mac has gotten quite easy these days, if you have a drive large enough to support it. Always an option if you're really desperate 😛
Most PC MMOs naturally hit Mac next before thinking about other consoles.
ooo i'll have to google this. gaming has gotten quite advanced since i was pre-middle school. education system really killed my love for games but now that i'm done with schooling its been an awesome journey back
sorry kenyatta but every time i read your name my first thought is of an omnic monk
there are ex blizzard employees on s6 too im pretty sure a lot of them made that connection...
EXPERIENCE TRANQUILITY bonk
maybe she's secretly an omnic monk too
EXPERIENCE HORSES
the last time I experienced horses I nearly met god so no thank you-
I could see farmer Zenyatta
heyoo
horses are scary
EXPERIENCE FERTILITY <zenyata fertlizing his farm>
Hello, hope you all have an awsome day :D
Hii
EXPERIENCE BUBBLE TEA Zenyatta enjoying a night out on the town with his friends
true i have been kicked by a horse and it hurts 
rude horse
honestly I just wanna know why they called it horsepower and not horseforce
HORSEFORCE IS SO GOOD
now i want bubble tea but it is so expensive here
consider: zenyatta with a mouth full of boba just firing that shit through his straw at people like a machine gun
Mmmmm bubble tea
same reason insomnia isn't called "resisting a rest" or placebo called "trick or treatment" - because people are boring
would zenyatta die if he drank bubble tea since he is a robot?
it replaces his right click
hows it going 😄
So the next reveal is definitely going to be the big guy, right?

Ehm.. about that

I voted for him and will only vote for him until he's picked ☺️
next villager vote should just be a choice between ashura ashura ashura and.. ashura.. but hes wearing a dress
i didn't get it
i Would be kinda funny if Ashura was the last villager we heard about
pretty sure the dress would win though...
oh ashura = im sure i
^ There ya go son
😄
As cool as this game and the lore is...the more I see of the character designs, the more I want my avatar to look like them. Non-human! Ah well.~
maybe in the future 
maybe we'll get non-human characters later
True!
But we'll be the rare species for once! HUMANS! A RARE RETURNING BREED
Wooooo
Imagine humans for once being cool, unlike irl
i wanna be a grimalkin
I would be sad.
same 
dadddd
I secretly hope Ashura becomes the meme character that is never revealed and we just meet him in game
Yeah?
In-Game he has a censor bar over his face
Hi
lol dadjoke, your discord # id number
We go happily looking for him in the game, go in the inn and just see a walking shadow man.
hi dad :)
I'm very tempted to make my character as close to my real self as possible. I usually go the other way, but this is a world I want to really "live" in.
SAME
I’d love if the devs made a cheeky inside joke like this lol
i'll see if there's good facial hair options, if there's not i won't even try to make myself 
I think I might too honestly
Have you been sleeping?
I would love it if the dialogue with him mentioned something like that
🤞 🤞
I need pink hair so i can make my oc
I wonder how long before we get a peak at the character creation 🤔
have you read the doc in the pins?
...
Yes, but it is a lot of info, did I miss something in there?
OH MY GOD
😂
Yooo
OH god
LOL the new vote
PFFFFFFT THE VILLAGER VOTE OMG
hahaha Nele
LETS HECKIN GO
FINALLYYYY

IT'S TIME
hahahaha. Imagine 2 wins now.
I LOVE YOU NEL
villager vote yall better pick the right one
This Vote is Gold!
omg this villager vote xd
it's finally time!
THANK YOU NELE
FREE HIM 
the second paragraph is all about character costumisation
sorry, i know you've been around but you wouldn't be the first one who didn't notice the doc
Well it was a tough choice yall, but I voted #1
its now
haha nice nel
YESSSS
RELEASE HIM
Vote "?"
xD
Nel you are an absolute treasure, just so you know - to you from all of us
it's on
YESSS FINALLY
The fact it is close annoys me
sometimes you just gotta rig it in the favour of the people
Everyone ashura
./grumble.. he isnt wearing a dress...
Wait wait wait... a ? was added... 👀
i wounder who will win
I understand, no worries.. I'll look at it again
1 was the only way to go 
Me, watching the ? nearly over take the vote for my man
LOLL NOT THE QUESTION MARK AS A OPTION