#๐ฌโpalia-discussions
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What leveling systems do you guys hope the game has? I hope we have numbers attached to different skills because I like watching number go up ๐
Nothing like getting a 99 in RuneScape
I too love seeing numbers increase!
I want a leveling system based on how many blue shark plushies you have in your house
If that's the case, maybe we should all move over to #๐ฌโoff-topic-chat And only come back here when the inspiration strikes?
when will the game become early access?
I hope leveling, to some extend, is based on exploration, quests, lore gathering, recourse gathering and crafting.
And that, ex. crafting is locked behind that level.
When the game is released for early access
Good morning
is pre alpha going to be for a while?
Who says it will be early access? I for one hope that it dose not!
I enjoy skill leveling over character level, but that's just me. It fits having a specialization. Like a multiplayer Morrowind.
You do know early access is a crucial phase in development, right?

I think the level progression only applies to what skill you're using, and I would think it would be slow to progress in order to make the player feel satisfied having one job over many
Right now the pre-alpha selection is still underway and no actual testing has started. Devs are hoping to send more invites in the coming weeks, but we don't know exactly when or how many. I assume after pre-alpha there'll be alpha and then beta tests before a final launch.
S6 is hoping to get Palia out completely within 3 years or less.
Do you want to brand your game as fully released but yet have lots of bugs and missing features yet to come?
ok
Idk if I explained that well
No it is not. Alpha and Beta are. Early access is just a moneymaker. nothing else.
Ah yes ofc
Early access is the Steam refund period! Huzzah!
Let's just release all the games currently in early access as full games then :)
As they should be...
Yep, no alpha or beta stage, just release Palia right now. It should be that way after all.
I hope that Palia will follow the way games used to be made... Without "beta demos" a week before launch.
pre-orders that give early access rights calming it to be for test purposes, without resetting game progression.
oh heck yeah, time to pay 20 bucks for the hundreds of open world survival craft sandbox!
I have no idea what you are talking about. Alpha and Beta tests are not early access. And if you think they are, you are very wrong ๐
henlo, palia community
Henlo!
hi
Hey Kandy!
Early access isn't it's own exclusive stage. Early access is exactly that. Everybody who has the key to palia at this very moment has Early access to the game. The game is still in its infancy and publishing a game without any sort of alpha/beta stages would show that the game is unpolished, underdeveloped, and just didn't have a lot of work put into it.
Early access is really good for indie studios. Too bad the big boys now use early access to sell preorders and people started scamming as indie dev imposters.
Alpha is alpha in Palia's case. It's for hunting bugs and fixing things. There will be progression resets. It is NOT just an early look at the game.
At this moment Palia is considered closed early access
No. it is soon in pre-alpha.
early access is a stage right before launch, created to make money from people who wants to pay to play early
Okay dude. You obviously don't care about whether you're right or wrong. You just want to push your own beliefs without doing any research.
yo, how's it going! anything i missed?
Sounds exactly like what you are doing too, tho
early access can mean super early alpha too wdym
Hey guys, let's respect each other. Everyone has their own opinion and let's just respect that. Thank you 
yea, that term's really fluid with either phases
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I think the distinction being made here is that early access usually means you keep whatever progress you make whereas with pre-alpha and beta phases, you go in and help a company refine their game before everything gets wiped. One has a specific focus on testing, the other is testing as well as prestige, often at a cash price.
Technically your both correct but regardless it doesn't matter.
they have not mentioned that?
It actually can, with how scummy some of the games were getting. Remember when Steam had to update their refund policy because of the half baked game swarm?
Not a whole lot, just chilling with everyone. Had some good discussion around crafting in here a while ago.
Ah dang, missed craft talk in Palia chat?
That sounds like a fun discussion
Don't make me come out of my shell
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i miss 2015 steam ๐ช
guys, you know there is a ton of articles on software(incl games) dev cycle stages that name all of them in correct order, there is no point in telling each other that someone doesnt know what they are talking about
oh man I can't wait to spend 1 hour customizing my character
oh hell yea, to what extent? :3
what a time to browse through the store
sounds almost as much as I will ๐
We were speculating on what items we think will be in, and if there is stamina or how long crafting will take.
Personally hoping for some sort of craft mini-game.
Turtle swam away?
That would be fun and add another level to the game!
He might seem far, but he's always right behind you 
Have fun guys. I'm gonna go to bed. Respect the Mods.. keep the Palia-talk going ๐
Sleep well, friend. See you tomorrow!
only one?
Good night PacManiac
I wonder what crafting stations will be like. Some games put crafting stations as furniture in your home. Others put crafting stations within the major city.
I do not like that at all
It's from the unofficial FAQ but in regard to stamina "You won't be stopped cutting down trees by stamina or similar no. We had it, hated it, its gone from the game." I'm not entirely sure what that means, but no idea if anyone might have brought it up earlier. I don't actually know aside from speculating myself on the QA.
Is there an expected release date? for example end of this year or the middle of next year?
i imagine theyll be in your home somewhere
after all, most games that have crafting stations in cities dont have homes as a thing that everyone has
in palia its part of the questline
I hope that it's like Archeage where you were able to make the crafting tables and use them to decorate your house.
good move, omg
No official release date, just a vague, "less than 3 years"
the best we have is one of the devs saying that release is "much less than three years"
Better than nothing
That happened?
yeah its in the faq
I like that it's not a limiting factor
oh i see, a complex game takes real time, thanks for the info
Assuming that's how it is and how they keep it, I completely agree.
honestly i wouldnt have had that info any other way. I'm so excited
I wonder what methods they are gonna do for fast travel(assuming its a big world)
Flying Turtles.
i want to make hash browns and onion rings in palia
I bet it's a big world. Exploration and open-world is one of their biggest things about it!
So probably faster to walk? ๐
The world so far has been described as "smaller, but comparable to Breath of the Wild", as far as i remember
and that's just talking about the map at launch
Maybe some flying elements?
I hope there is flying turtles. Just for you 
I liked the flying concept in one game called sky i think, a few years back
turtles. everywhere.
Maybe you scale a large mountain and glide off of it for fun. That would be epic!
Flocks of flying turtles ๐
That WOULD be super cool
under rocks, in the sky, you'll find them in space once you unlock space travel
pet cat
when we visit @rain carbon 's house its just crammed with turtles
horror
I would visit
it's like a turtle fun house
turtle theme park perhaps ?
I might do this once the game is launched ๐
Turtles > Roomba
yo
when will we unlock Einars brother, who just so happens to be a roomba
Zweinar
It'll be the most visited house in all of Palia.
As long as they have good living conditions!
"can we romance the roomba?"
"yes"
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I'll have mini jacuzzis in my house ๐
Wait that's too hot for little turtle ๐ฅบ
I should make a cat cafรฉ
it's just a regular cafรฉ except that im there
he knows
Turtle cafe, cat cafe, Palia will have everything imagineable
turtle just wants to be soup for everyone to enjoy in Palia
then I'll just have bathtubs ๐
Alright that is good. You don't wanna stress them all out โบ๏ธ
those are the only two kinds of cafes
They are the only ones we would want ๐
How bout you @patent adder - will you be living in a farm?
I want a tree house โบ๏ธ Or a house with lots of fish tanks
I'm on board with the cat cafe idea, but I'd need more cats for when you couldn't visit
Can goats climb treehouses?
they can climb up vertical dams so I would think so
Tree goat
This is gif of me going home after work every morning
Ever see those goats that live on the roof of buildings?
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I'm going for the night, but I bet I'll be counting flying turtles jumping over the moon in my sleep
I hope you sleep well friend โบ๏ธ
Kinda look like he forgot to take off the christmas lights and wife said she is not going to let him watch Superbowl unless the lights are going off the house roof
You aren't wrong ๐
oh oh, I wonder if there are gonna be Christmas decorations for outside in Palia๐
I hope there are Halloween decorations. I want spooky bats and pumpkins โบ๏ธ
If S6 doesnt add cats I'll use kitsuu
flying turtles are predators, their weight, along with their incredible wing structure makes them the fastest flying animal in history. Reports have told of People losing fingers randomly while outside without any observable source to that mishap. Be careful out there folks
Also Imagine Roan making a spooky hedge maze for Halloween
Oooh that would be fun โบ๏ธ
We'll probably have a cat-like creature I'd assume ๐ค
assuming grimalkin dont already fill that role
if there are hostile turtles in palia i will cry
i dont want to hurt them
pat the turtle
they will hurt you first 
once the reports of stealing pizza slices, from peoples hands start to pour in, I would hide any and all nunchucks.
Your home is just going to be a suspiciously-placed sewer grate with a mailbox next to it. You can't fool me, turtlebeast.
i would just let them bc i don't want to upset them :((
You are a kind soul
Good timezone, everyone!
Cowabunga, dude! ๐
I'll take all the turtle damage so everyone else can keep their fingers !
life without an index finger will be hard, trust me, one of the mentioned flying turtles got me ๐
nobody ever wondered why we see only the green turtle? no blue, red or yellow?
ohh
because blue turtles are scary and they fly and destroy me in mario kart
that game is too competitive for me
Those only show up when GreenTurtle is sad, angry, or ill.
I'm having flashbacks..s-stop
I was first place, why am I 9th now
Why no purple turtle? We could call it a purtle, it'd be neat.
Someone mention Chuu races in Palia that be interesting to watch
also a nice name for a cat that purs
purblue
why is
happychuu but
is chuusad
why is the order reversed
they were done individually?
do you mean a turtle that purrs
most cats have the ability to purr ๐
its bc the palia team is being consistent with how english makes no sense
ah wig
what really fries my noodle is why are some emotes chapaa and some are chuu, this inconsistency is making me crazy
oh that was definitely on purpose
its to show that they arent taking sides in the chapaa vs chuu war
savagery
When is the game?
Makes it so I can only use half of them lol
3 years or less!
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And yet there is an extra Chuu emote, sounds like Chuus are in the lead
But you can make friends RIGHT NOW. <u<
but wait, if you stay in this discord, it will seem much sooner, because this is a frigging black hole of time
That's all of Discord. But yes
I want the game, I don't want people
how rude๐

Mood. I'm the kind of introvert that wants to be around other people but not necessarily interact unless the conditions are Just Rightโข๏ธ.

if conditions are met they may potentially talk to you
Me too. And I won't put effort into achieving that condition 
so, how did you find out about the game?
hi
know the feels
from a friend
Which country am I from?

umm. from Eastern Europe?
@mild moon Hey new person!
Hey friend โบ๏ธ
your friend?
no
milky is everyone's friend
Speak for yourself. It makes perfect sense to me.
true
I certainly try ๐ฅบ
Good evening all. Goat.
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hey
goat milk
Except that one person. ๐
Except that one ๐ You are right
I'm from saudi arabia
@patent adder Wait who are you NOT a friend of? ๐
woah. East was right, not very Europe though๐
๐ฅบ I will not name and shame
oh this is for realsies? Nevermind then, I thought it was jokesies
Milky is too nice to not be everyone's friend ๐
It's me ain't it ๐ฟ
Nop. You are friend.
I love that thereโs one Milky exception.
I am having difficulty with the language because I speak from Google๐คฃ
Ahhh I am not but thanks ๐
it's cuz of what you do to bees
don't forget about the elves. I do a lot to them too
Bees?
okay, everyone except for the people who were mean when pre-alpha keys went out
I didn't get any of that โบ๏ธ But yeah those were mean people.
Well idk anythijg that happened back then, only joined this server today after reading an article about the game funding
aren't most the npc's in Palia elves?
All the more ears to cook
Ooh welcome friend โบ๏ธ
sounds kinda tasty, ngl

That is ok, I make mistakes in English all the time ๐
Possibly, we don't really know too much. In the trailer there is a human guy sweeping in the inn, but that could be a player maybe.
Hi
think that is an elf pause and take a close look he is a pointy ear
Hey, what's up โบ๏ธ
He's white though, I haven't seen any elves that aren't purple
I understand, but I can't write
I want to do a scene by scene breakdown of the trailer to deconstruct everything
What's your first language?
Because there is a lot to see
everyone was too astounded by milky's friendly aura that they didnt send any of that stuff to him
chaapa chaapa chaapa chaapa chuu chuu
Sorry you need to do the extra effort to communicate with us, but am happy to have you here.
๐ Hello
sebby seb sebbbb
Arabic
Hey mate, how are you doing?
aaaaaaaaa
Good aaaaaaaa or bad aaaaaa? 
They will make us learn Chinese and I can't speak English๐
neutral aaaaaa
Fair lol. Did I miss anything the last few days?
You missed the Auni reveal (#๐ โofficial-art) but other than that I dont think anything interesting happened
Ohh nice. A kid who probably reads our mail and tells people about it 
I'm going back through the Palia trailer and there is so much more that I'm just noticing
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Thats fine
You're doing really well!! Learning new languages is so hard, especially because of how different it is to comprehend it and actually speak it ๐ Keep at it! and I'm sure people here will be patient and help you when needed :)

oh cool, like what? ๐
I would love to watch a video with a full on analysis of all the details in the palia trailer
do we know if we can send mail between eachother? cus that was would awesome! wake up to some mail
At 0:44 in the inn there is a chess-like game in the foreground, also the antlers hanging above the fireplace look like those of the ox creatures (forgot their name?) seen in concept art
I hope so!
The inn itself seems to be themed after the ox creatures, lots of ox stamps on the mugs and walls
oh wow, good eye!
Also if you quickly freeze at 1:29 you can see a signpost indicating directions to Home, Village Center, and Bahari Town
how long until the game is going to be available
When it goes over the bridge near the end, theres a person down below fishing. Thought it was an npc at first but I realised the names just appear until your really close. Had some nice red outfit if I recall
there has been no mention of date that i am aware of
I think a lot of people believe it's around 2 years tho?
Oh nice I didn't even notice that person down there
Yeah we haven't been given a solid time frame but the answer is 
If you mean soon=2022-2023 then ya.
or maybe never
definitely sooner than 3 years they said so ๐ค
Don't tease about that little goat. ๐ฅบ
don't say that :(
I'm just kid-ding around
You've been redeemed
goats have had it rough, always the sacrifice in so many lores
Dragon? Let a goat handle it
Yeah I only noticed them after watching a couple of times
they get a break when a virgin sacrifice is needed though
They fed me to a t-rex in Jurassic Park
poor duckie
If the goat is a virgin does that count as a double sacrifice
Small price to pay for pre alpha status ๐

no, they cancel each other out then you need a whole new sacrifice
Oof tough luck
Midnight, the fireworks have started ๐ญ
I wonder if gun powder would be a thing in Palia, but only for harmless applications lol
good morning pals~ ๐ฆ
Happy 12:04 Ante Meridian. ๐
Good morning opposite time zone D:
Morning duck โบ๏ธ
your pfp scares me
Yeah the new duck is a little cursed ๐
More than a little ๐
Maybe the humans didn't go extinct. They saw these and went into hiding.
this art is actually created by Simuel for me ๐ 
Howdy everyone
A mod ๐
a modded duck
Duck duck mod
Cursed doesn't mean it's bad. Just spooky ๐
Happy fourth of July everyone 
it's 5th of july for some now
I think spooky comes with being cursed
She wasn't talking to them.
still 4th in here, east
Good morning my my felllow ducks
there are more ducks now?
A whole raft of ducks
They are taking over
is that a cross between a duck and a chuu? Duck chuu? That sounds unfortunate lol
I'm new to all this so I've got no idea what a chuu is 
every creature can BE a duck
Is this like the Aristrocats except the song is modified to Everybody wants to be a duck

this is chuu
duck isn't just a state of mind, duck is a state of being
we all have a duck spirit within our hearts
I have evolved back to my true form
If you ain't a duck then you ain't stuff
matter of fact, duck is a being
Me: Let me pop into Palia and have a chat
Disco Duck:
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i cant chase this many ducks
Duck is so worshipped where I am from it has it's own sport team. Although I'm not sure who on earth thought Ducks would be intimidating enough to be a sport team. -.- Like seriously lions, bears, timber wolves and such. and here we are Oh yeah man Ducks we gonna scare the crap out of you.
Duck is love
Duck is life
ducks can fly pretty far, maybe that's what they were thinking
maybe lol
Maybe ducks are omnipotent beings sent down from the heavens to judge us on are morality as human beings
Borf
good night everyone!! 
Night!
Night wizard
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maybe
zzzz
trying to figure out what I should do
the duck community in Palia is growing
count ducks
i dont have a duck counting game
Can we go back to a couple days ago. I liked this chat more when slow mode was needed. I feel so lonely in here now lol
Become a duck
im a cat.
really excited for whenever streams of the game start goin live
Duck enough
streams wont happen for a while 
One of us ๐ฆ

Just put a beak and some webbed feet on a cat. It'll be a duck.
no
i like when the conversations are nice and slow
4 legged duck
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I like a good medium pace. I get bored easy and everyones existence is to entertain me
Why not ducks โบ๏ธ
4 legged cat duck sounds terrifying lmao
because goats
Do not question only accept
Duck are a way of being
I want a duck costume in game please
which creature would win, duck, goat, goose, cat, or surger glider
And it lets me swim better
We are but mere pawns on a board to are duck overlords
is that even a question
A goat would be the largest ๐ค
Ducks for sure
are we only including small cats
No because I know the answer... Sugar Glider would win. It would mount the cat and is capped in mounted combat
That is true
https://tenor.com/view/headcrab-cat-gif-22077785 documented proof
.
Duckphemy!
Jesus that sugar glider went at the cat
Duck but actually it's just a cat that quacks
kitty
honestly i think the goose would win, those are mean. never mess with a goose
This guy never heard of swans
Is the plural of moose meese
Morning, Afternoon, Evening All
I think they messed up when naming animals. Moose is suppose to be a cow and a cow is suppose to be a moose.
Oh god no dont
Wait,,,, this is Palia chat ๐ณ I hope we have meese in Palia ๐
I refuse to believe you, even if you are correct I refuse to believe that is true in any world I am sorry
Lol
I wanna drop kick a moose
And a group of crows is a murder, so you know. Names of things
And cow's Moo, so Moo se just makes more sense for them
The moose will send you into next week and bully your body. Dont mess with them
I think the moose would most likely drop kick you
Moose will charge you and scream to get off their land
Theyre the last megafauna
They do not care if you have life insurance or not, youre gonna be in the hospital at leastโฆ
Assuming they show you mercy
Theyre territorial and large.
Lol
Moose army sounds frightening
Remember when australia lost a war to a bunch of emus
In case you need perspective that gif is niceโฆ
The world would lose a war against moose
They looked at the other megafauna going extinct and said โnah famโ
welp that settles it, I'm moving to Canada
Could you imagine a swarm of 100 moose
whens the game officially releasing?
you said swarm of moose and I suddenly got in my head the image of little moose hornet hybrids. The horror in my head right now scares me
@quick plank it's still in pretty alpha I don't think it has a release just yet
Not for a while yet! But there's a lovely FAQ in the pins!
Okay thanks yall๐
moose can swim
I think their legs actually just extend till they reach the bottom ๐
The Orca is actually one of the main predators of the Moose
I canโt go on, goodnight friends! ๐ด
Ducky do you know if we lost the ability to post gifs in here forever?
haha great answer
I miss them, I always loved expressing myself via other peoples art. I can see why we wouldn't get them back though not exactly ontopic to palia
maybe they removed the embed just so the chat wont be spammed, so if there's so many chat ongoing, you don't have to scroll that much
gif takes like 3-chat space
a lot do very true, some are smol though but always hard to tell which are which
dang it I can't take the silence. lol
i wonder if the gif works if you drag it from your pc into discord
naw embeds are turned off and file uploading isnt available here either
aah oke
test
they had to remove it after The Incident
they work in other channels though
Rin how much longer you plan to stay up. Will you be my entertainment
its 4 pm
so then yes. now be a good little kitty and dance
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I really hope I get invited in the coming weeks 
a lot of us do ๐
The game will save my summer
Good Morning and Happy Timezone Sunday Palians! ๐
I wish everyone the best of luck. Just stay positive
GM !
good morning!
I hope you do too. You did the 2nd survey right? โบ๏ธ Just checking!
Good morning Watershine
Morning โบ๏ธ
Good morning! 
Einar or Chuu, pick a companion to be your bud for the rest of your palia life
einar
There's a bunch of Chuu everywhere but only one Einar 
hey guys
this is true, so Chuu's are better you can have a single golem or an army
Hey :3
see when you put it that way it changes the whole situation, haha.
einar is for friend
how's it going?
i just can't wait anymore, guess i'll freeze myself and wait till release day
going well, trying to ignore my cat screaming at me while laying on top of me
yay, love cats โค๏ธ
Gotta at least unfreeze every so often to check if you got into prealpha โบ๏ธ
very true
the amount of luck I have is incredibly low, I don't think I'll be able to get in...
At least we're v. close to the Q&A. We'd like some game details S6!..pretty please
have the 1st wavers gotten to play yet? Feels like the longer they don't get to, the longer the 2nd wave is delayed as well 
i have 12 ๐
I will give you my luck โบ๏ธ
No we haven't started the actual testing yet!
Ola palians
sharing is caring 
I thought they were already playing
Nope we aren't yet. โบ๏ธ 200 have been chosen so far, 1200 left to be chosen. And we haven't started yet!
yay, I'll definitely need it!
I will give both of you my luck ๐ฅฐ
both? what about me? 
I would too be usually I am unlucky, this is the first time something good has happened for me in a long while
hmm, I guess you're more anxious than me then
Yeah! You, Sane. And Kvry โบ๏ธ
so if i gave ya'll my luck it'd probably be bad luck
do i get any milky luck? ๐ฅบ
yayayay
Of course you do, Rin. โค๏ธ
ngl milky luck sounds naughty lol
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I am an innocent goat ๐
I mean, excited
FeelsBadMan
im an innocent cat
I thought you were a gremlin
I know the truth
that im an innocent AND depressed cat
gremlins where cute too in some way xD
maybe spike
Imagine if Chuus was like gremlins and bad things happen if you get them wet or feed them after midnight
and start to destroy ur entire house
its like ferox in ark survival they are cute little friendly dinos and when eat element becomes rage mode large uncontroled cute
guess we'll have to wait to figure out chuu's true power
it got quiet again
๐ฆ yeah
Can someone tell me what this game is about?
oh you arent red anymore
Nope, I got bored of red.
cozy mmorpg, guess that sums it up
same vibe as games like stardew valley or harvest moon
I will be changing my color often. I get bored easily
Like are there raids, classes?
not as far as we know
if there is combat it'll be entirely optional, from what I've read
Genshin impact like?
Not that type of game from what it looks like. There is a good FAQ in the pin. Sounds like we won't even have a health bar potentially?
@rotund turtle no to both?
More like the stardew skill system in an mmo form. No real competitive modes
Check the FAQ document in this channels pinned comment's
that's right
Ok thanks
I just can't wait to play it one day ;-;
Ig its not a game for me
I was looking for a game like WoW or FFXIV
me too
I think you'll only have combat if u desire it
yeah, it's not that kind of game at all, sorry
@rotund turtle nah won't be that. And that's cool it's not for you man ๐
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Read through the document though. Maybe something will sound good for you to play causally
Hmm yeah
yeah, it's more of a chill/casual type of game
the one you play after that sweaty valorant match
the one you play when you're Going Through It
the place you go where everybody knows your name...ohwait this ain't cheers
it could be
well, they said there won't be unique usernames, so there could be lots of Mr Rogers in the game
Woop woop
and all of them will be dating the same elf
smh not dating zeki
bad taste
I am staying single forever in this game โบ๏ธ
Zeki is a dude ain't he? I'm not into dudes.
๐...My...myself?
.......sure!
wtb female grimalkin that I can lock in my house because I'm not into sharing romance interests.
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That sounds...disturbing
same
i am concerned about you rogers
what? It's weird there is a million people dating the same person
true
I think the weird part was locking them in your house ๐
comunism
They are not romantic interests,
They are just being flits so you buy more stuff of them .
Well that is the only way in a game to make sure I'm the only one lol
I mean.... maybe make her invisible to everyone when I'm romancing her I guess?
maybe ill find a cute player and hit it off with them
Well you also said it...just a game. We shouldn't be promoting locking anyone inside as a love interest...
also shouldn't be promoting cheating so theres that



If you need lore justification, then assume it's a polyamorous relationship.
There's been a couple dodgy comments i've seen over past couple days that is getting shrugged off because internet lols (Not pointing fingers at you for the others)

That is easy to say, but everybody is for proper representation yea? Why is only poly being represented?
Next thursday next dev Q&A HYPE
hype!
I guess it wouldn't be affordable making one character for each player to have a romance with

Dats it, if you kids don't stop with dis, I'm taking your romances away for a month.
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lol
I know someone that would rage hard if romance was taken away
like HARD. romance is their favorite part of life sim games
for me I think it's the least important one lol
I like romance, but no way can I do it if I'm sharing =/
My favorite part of the Sims was accidentally leaving the poptart in the gas oven or launching a firework into the wrong spot or having the sad clown visit me. Romance was okay. Especially when ghosts were in the house.
My brain won't let me. It says no.
so they just gonna let the characters cheat with all the players ๐ค
did they even said u would be able to date any character?
seen the topic alot here, just assumed it was in the faq
Finally having a harem 
romance has been confirmed
except we are the ones in the harem
I thought it would be between players
no also npcs
einar wait for me then
I would be much more comfortable if they removed the "Romance" and turned it into "Relationship" as that can be just friendships. And only let you go as far as besties. That way it doesn't seem awkward that everyone is dating the same person
here is a all the things they said about the game in the discord
its not official but i would say 90% truth
we shall see
But what if im blind, I cant see then
You can just feel em
Yeah, no, I want the romance part
Hey friend โบ๏ธ
I mean uhmmm (;ล๏นล)
Hello milky
I think it'll be fine? SWTOR did something similar with romance and there didn't seem to be any problems among the community. Made the story that much more engaging long term
but that method locks a whole lot of people go unrepresented. In a game that appears to be about full on representation
And "best friends only" doesn't leave a whole lot of ppl who want romance unrepresented?
You don't have to romance. Didnt they say it was optional.
It makes it so neither side gets what they want? It's a middle area
I want anyone who plays to have the experience they want. Romance? Sure. Friendship? Sure. Be a shit neighbor? Sure why not, your loss.
@lyric ether Nah, if anything, just have an option to not romance or something :P
Sure, that would make all monogamous people have no representation. I'm sure that would fly well in other cases of just "choosing not to participate" In fact I know it won't .
Fear the HOAS
@lyric ether Fairly sure the concept isn't that the person is literally dating multiple ppl
I dont give a single flyin crap if someone else romances the same character as me. I play single player games with romance and other people also play those gamesโฆ idk man. I like options. Id love to experiment and see how each relation progresses
I'd rather not romance if it's done poorly tbh, like in Skyrim without mods all you get is a house wife/husband that runs a shop for you and greets you with the same two or three lines
Yeaaaah
with a single player game you don't see the other players circling the person romancing them though
@lyric ether With a single player game I don't see 5000 other people saving this town from Murlocs. Adapt
Umโฆ i meanโฆ thats true but i KNOW theyre also romancing them? So knowledge is literally the same
You know, I really want to be petty and give examples how that hasn't worked in the past in other cases. But I'll be the better person and walk away.
You just want out of sight out of mind i guess? Cuz other than seeing people, there is no real difference
Good Quack Morning!
Muddling down everything so no one likes anything isn't the solution either anyway. Quit so many games because they destroyed the identity of the classes you can play, making it all a mushy mix, just to appeal to everyone
I mean people talk to NPCs for things other than romancing them. Can't we assume other players just have platonic relationships?
Good morning ๐ฆ
You think im the only one romancing Naoto in persona 4? Heck no. Do i care? No, sheโs fantastic.
Also yeah cant assume its all romantic
Morning friend โบ๏ธ
Also you do realize that every NPC you romance in harvest moon is also going to be romanced by other people in their games? :p
Just citing an example there
Yeah seriously. Just like everyone in animal crossing can be anyoneโs friend
This person does allegedly care. It's best you all walk away because it's a pointless argument.
If romancing affects other things like skill progression or narrative arcs then I'll consider it, but otherwise I plan to stay away from it
Same. โบ๏ธ
Oh, I just got here. I do like romance thogh.
I guess, but then they can't play any games that have romance systems
clear false equivalence Multiplayer is a different situation. There is immersion to take into place. Having others visibly there doing it is a lot different then people being in their own little universe dating the same characters
People implied mere knowledge that others do so is bad
I mean, You dont have to really put as much thought into it, and id rather not remove an aspect of the game to appeal to only one half.
Youโฆ think single player has no immersion factor? Thatโs simply not true mate. Also AC is multiplayer. I see clones of villagers on friendโs islands
it's not a removal it's a rebranding.
May not be romantic but the immersion factor is there
Again we don't know what system they will have in place. Sure, you might see the characters in the overworld but interactions might be cut scene based.
Romance to Relationship, marriage to besties. whats the problem with that
Its.. literally removing romantic relationshipsโฆ
That is a featureโฆ friendship exists tooโฆ
Ahhhh romancing... What a good feature
it's not. mechanically it's the same
@lyric ether I figure the problem is that you make it sound like you expect that rebranding to influence the interactions etc. Because I'm not sure you'ld be happy if they just renamed it while keeping functionally romantic interactions part of it
I dont really feel like debating this anymore tbh. I dont think many share your opinion
I agreed with your previous point Gala - Someone is putting far too much thought into it
I got work to do. So yall have fun. You can certainly give feedback on it but i like the idea of it being an option.
You think I'll be the only one? /shrug
Anyway, this is a thing where no matter what you do, you won't be able to appeal to everyone. Imo it's better to pick something and develop that than to try some odd middle ground no one is happy with
Is this really the appropriate medium either way? Let's get back to good and happy vibes โค๏ธ 
Have fun, friend. โบ๏ธ
Oh, Milky. I didn't see you on. Good morning
Milky beans is always on
Milky is always watching... Always waiting. For a new friend to show up ๐
The most wholesome stalker.
Always watching. Always listening. Always whispering sweet nothings
Stalker no that isn't right ๐ฅบ I am good
Hello friends, what is our current topic?
Or should we find a new one?
New one please
I'm a middle-of-the-road person and I would call the relationships friends with benefits. 
What I'm fairly sure we won't see is NPCs actively flirting with me, which is sad :P
What happened with romance exactly? I came too late
Aww, I'm sorry. How about friendship connoisseur?
Your pfp though ๐
I like that better then stalker ๐
The safest placest are generally on the side of the road, least cars there
I mean, middle of the road can be pretty safe too - depending on the road
I myself prefer to walk the median. Consider it a power play
Hmm I guess
I think there was a difference in opinion on if romances should be allowed or just friendships. Might be misinterpreting things though.
That wasn't the argument ^^ Someone wanted an NPC to date them and only them
But yeah, in all HM games you have to approach the romance interests, would be nice to have an option that the NPCs are more proactive ๐
The road of life. Honk honk
Judging by Sam's reaction to a mention of Jel, I think romance should be an option.
I just watch debates from afar up in my tree house โบ๏ธ
Oh no, not the geese
you got me there
Alright, anyone have any fun ideas about how dungeons could be handled? If I recall correctly they said something about implementing more combat in the future, but I would love to see some zelda like non-combat puzzles. What do you think?
I just like compromises is all. It's best if all people are taken into consideration other wise it creates animosity.
New villager when??
am I a pre-alpha tester yet
Name idea: Dungeons are now Wonder Ruins of Fun and Adventure
Sadly no, friend. ๐ฅบ
An archaeologists dream.
why do you like to see me crying
you literally cannot take all people into consideration, there are mutually exclusive positions
I don't, I don't want any of my friends to cry.
I like the idea of the puzzle type dungeons - any and all types. Platformers are good.
My fear with combat is that, we know it's not their focus necessarily, so anything in there won't be a new system
I would love to see what they have in store for group dungeons
Perhaps they will incorporate hunting (as seen in the trailer) with the dungeons?
Happy timezone all
for a creative person there is always a middle ground to be found.
Oh I see, well I know the topic has been kind of closed already but i would like to share my opinion: in a world were cooperation will play a good paper on the development of the players, I dont think romance is a bad idea, but well if the feature is there or not, the game will be very enjoyable!
A middle ground that'll likely make me 50% less interested in the game
We've just had one XD next ones gonna be next friday
I think puzzle dungeons would be cool, I'd love to do puzzle dungeons tbh
i'm not used to the romances thing in games. so to me its the strangest confirmed part of Palia by far. but i'm happy to just abstain if when i get into game i find it's not for me. the mmo part is very odd to me; lots of being 'romancing' (am i the only one who doesnt like that word? ><) the same person, or people.
I might like the happy medium thing too. just see how it goes i guess, im open
Hi (shy wave)
I could see building preset dungeons as way to get people work together, then have other groups fight monsters if the dungeons become invaded
grumbles
Might be able to improve the name.... Caverns, Hollows, Archives, and Properties of Archealogical Adventure or.... CHAPAA for short!
No being shy! You are new friend. Welcome โบ๏ธ
Need new character now!!111
4 days till answers btw \o/
Oh yeah, you're right!
Puzzles sound fun, but should be single player, because some people preffer playing alone
'We've had one yes, but what about second new character reveal'
it's unhealthy to be all or nothing.
I've never seen cave exploration done in a new way though - So perhaps actually having to find ways to cross chasms etc could be quite entertaining. Finding the crawl spaces. But that sounds like a massive project so i doubt it's a sensible suggestion.
Coop puzzles are also fun. Just finished a raid on Destiny 2 that had loads of neat little puzzles in it. Would've been hard to complete without the guides online.
Are you sure? I am 70% made of water and I think I am healthy ๐
mmo's are social games with multiple people around you. You have to be considerate of others.
Would be unhealthy if you were 100% water though! ๐
but you are not all water or no water ๐
I see, makes sense
hehe im 80% made off coca cola xD
I'm 100% untamed sarcasm. I think its rather healthy
๐ Woah
Did you ever try hot/microwaved cola?
I'm 50% duck 50% goat
Wait how do you sleep
Duck and I raised you well โบ๏ธ
whats a sleep ?
Is it a doat or guck?
I guess we could all say we are 100% Human, but I sometimes question how healthy it is to be human
I really enjoyed how the Tall Tales are handled in SoT whith puzzles requiring you to find clues in some old journals to set the correct sequence of symbols and such. That could be a possibility.
Yeah same
Okey, understood
Guck sound kinda gross
Who knows. "Dungeons" could be as simple as forest mazes, stalking a hunt or like... something out of Alice in Wonderland where a Cheshire Chapaa taunts you from the branches.
I would 100% like that system - that would draw me back time and time again
Cheshire chapaa or riot
Imagine a goat with duck flappers for feet ๐ณ
Aww look at the little guckling cross the road
Yea idk I don't like that at all. Feels wrong
and there isn't really a way to live 100% healthy especially naw days even breathing is unhealthy
What if there are rare albino chapaa that you have to search for
Existing is unhealthy
A shiny chapaa 
I'LL SEARCH
Oxygen is poison. Kills us humans slowly, but we require it to live
SHINY CHAPAA
PIPO PIPO PIPO PIPI
yes a shiny chappa-mon
I hope someone understands it
They could give some seeds as a prize too
We'll search โบ๏ธ
Goat and dragon on an adventure!
Those deer in the trailer were fasssstt, I think hunting might actually be difficult
SPOILER?
trailer not spoiler
Always. Partners in.. friendship โบ๏ธ
There will be deers, nice
At the end of the trailer the deer scatter and run, but they disappear so fast
Depending on AI could probably make it easy with 2 people. Spook, get caught on something then shoot it.
did you see the size of the antlers in the Inn.
Friendship partners! 
I hope they're gonna find them interesting for most people, but I'm a bit anxious of overhyping myself at this point.
It's actually kinda weird we require constantly taking in something around us to keep existing
Yeah just making a but of annoying sarcasm
Please support me in the suggestions channel
The better the AI the more difficult hunting can be
There's concept art of these guys
I think it's their horns
I will take a look, pancakebunny.
Yeah i'm eager to see the level of engagement we get on the 8th July Q&A. It's very early on, so i don't expect much, but at same time, be good to get a feeling for what to expect communication wise.
Yeah, we'll have to see. I am looking forward to it either way
Where will be the q&a, will be a stream or text here?
They'll be replying to some of questions submitted in #851872239435644928 in #โโold-team-answers-alpha
Thanks
Timeline wise - 1st/2nd week they asked for questions to which they'd answer - They got 1000s and answered 10.
This time, they've accepted 2/3 weeks (??) of questions & have given themselves a week to write answers to some of them.
i would really would like some mytical creatures for mounts it would be cool
I need my dragon to protect my chapaa ๐ฅบ
dragons arent realy a think they are every where somethink cool like large cats or wolfs or somethink like it
imagine if chapaa's sprout little dragon wings
MY HEART
Still, a lot of what's been asked is probably under nda so I don't expect a lot of answers, they might do longer ones though
or a realy big cookie mount
I'm not sure if I want mounts to ba a thing. Don't get me wrong, I love collecting mounts but I want Palia to be more slow paced type of game, and mounts clash with it a bit.
a Dog-sledge pulled by Chapaa's
i think off mounts like accessory like clothing and staff
The faster the mounts are, the smaller the world seems.
yeah at same time a mini game like mount race or something would be cool
They said they considered mounts to be in the category of fast travel and that they're in the roadmap in some respect, I get the feeling they've got original ideas there
Morning Palians
This is true. Although if you're able to breed them and stuff, it's kinda cool to be able to breed higher quality and faster mounts โบ๏ธ
Hey Tophi โบ๏ธ
Hey Milky!
How are you today? ^^
I prefer simpler mounts like horses, would be nice to be able to breed horses of different sizes, speeds, colors, etc
Good good. Getting ready for work. You? :3
Might be a bit too game'y for me. After doing some IV breeding in pokemon I would prefer to have breedable traits to be cosmetic only.
Awh heck yeah. I hope you have a good day at work ๐
And have accesories for the mounts
Hard agree, i was obsessive over IV breeding. Don't activate my meta switch
Fair enough. I just know in BDO I enjoyed breeding to get a really fast horse. โบ๏ธ I know it's not for everyone though, but you were able to sell your mounts and buy a fast one if you didn't want to get it yourself!
I did it once and it was too much for me
Once as in one team + Ditto
I'm typically opposed to really flashy colorful mounts that make no sense within the game's art style or narrative, lots of games these days introduce super colorful, glowy mounts and it breaks the immersion for me
Snail mount?
The mount stats could change with the diet they have, better diet and care, betters stats
It would be interesting if you could breed cosmetically using No Man Sky type logic. So a horse is white with brown spots. Have it so it rng's the size of the spots, brown transparency etc.
The legendary snail mount, I don't even like snails that much but I want it
I think mounts would be great. If there would be any type of cosmetic, I think the rarity should have effect. Like Pokรฉmon with shinies.
I'd like for mounts to be a thing you just get, and then forget. Diet mechanics managements make me anxious sometimes having to micromanage especially if you have multiple animals.
I'm at the point where I want just a big workhorse-type breed with good animations for a mount if anything. BotW did this in an amazing way.
Yeah I love how they handled it
The coat color variety made me happy (except the blue ones)
You are amazing too! 
We all are amazing Lil creatures
I probably wouldn't want to rush the countryside. From the trailer it looks too beautiful to skip.
No you
I want the mechanic of gift everything to anyone, even to unknown player
I am amazing
You are

I love this girl, we have matching goggles
I hope I can have matching hat with this one 
Same
Omg you do
I'm going to be einar buddy, fishing buddy
I see your name now
Epic welcome to the club


There's gonna be a lot of fishing buddies
Palia backwards is ailap
I'm gonna do some basic gathering (woodcutting and mining) as a side hustle
I love fishing on games, so i can't wait to fishn in palia, wanna have different lunes, bait, different fish at different times y zones
I love fishing endangered fish
Same, i want fishing to be deep but not restrictive, so everyone can try without the need of checking wiki every 5 minutes unless you are enjoying such type of gameplay.
The last MMO I played I barely got enough money to buy a good fishing boat and then quit the game because each time I went to fish I only got raided by high level pirates without me being able to do anything. 
so I'm looking forward to fishing in Palia.
Do you think will have different weather?
For sure, maybenot from the start though
I must say that i love that the chat has quieted to a point of me being able to follow what is happening
Is really calm now
Yeah chat used to be nuts. It still can get pretty crazy but I love it โบ๏ธ
During weekdays i look away fo two minutes and see 50+ messages
Oh, i want a camping set in palia, camping and watch the starry sky
That sounds lovely!
Yassss
Mornin' o/
Good morning friend. ^^
Meow
Wtf I thought you were a dog
Morning
how on earth did you think i was a dog
Also, quick message to all pet owners in the US. I hope all of your little friends will not be stressed too much today. Give them hugs from Europe.
oh right its firework day isnt it
I have bad pattern recognition skills
milky are you gonna be able to sleep?
I would say that as of now we are absolutely ๐ป โน๏ธ ๐ ฑ๏ธ โน๏ธ ๐ณ
@patent adder are you gonna be able to sleep through the fireworks
I am a very heavy sleeper โบ๏ธ
Someone mentioned it the other day but spelling words out using regional indicators makes it tedious for screen readers
do goats get scared of loud noises?
I think its like 3-5am. So there is tome till fireworks
Not this goat. I am big brave strong goat โบ๏ธ
Where I live the goats are the loud noise lol
its about 6 am in the us
Look up 'fainting goats'
Those are cuties
milky is nocturnal so i thought he might be asleep when everyone starts blowing things up
Nah, well, maybe some. But I wake up at like 5pm or something โบ๏ธ
So they won't start for real till a bit later
๐ฐ
4th of july sounds stressful
Eh, not really. I love fireworks though โบ๏ธ Friends and I used to go out to one of their houses in the country and blast some off ourselves and have a cookout
bored of orange already. What color should I be next people?
Man my memory is really bad
It feels like things keep falling out of my head
I like my color the best ๐
its not so bad when youโre used to it, as a kid it can be pretty terrifying tho
it's a good color I've thought about it
Yeah give me that color
Hello
The first time for kids is scary, but a lot of them seem to love them once they expect what is happening cause they're so pretty โบ๏ธ
K milky I took your advise
Heck yeah. I was orange for almost a month
im bad with loud noises so im glad i dont live in america
They are still scary for me, make me dizzy
Me too Rin me too. I can't even use voice chat because peoples dogs always barking
i think fireworks might overstimulate me
and when that happens it starts feeling like my skin is burning
Yeah there are some people I wish that would use push to talk ๐
on the spectrum? Me and my daughter are. I'm a little higher functioning then her though
im autistic yeah
yeah loud noises suck ๐ฆ
im """high functioning""" but i think those classifications are dumb anyway
its a spectrum, not a scale
I've never been officially diagnosed but my daughter has. They wanted to get me diagnosed but there was some complications with my age due to not being able to get records that would help with the diagnosis.
:(
but they said it's highly likely
What happens when you get too much stimulation? for me it feels like burning needles all over my body
In Europe it happens on new years eve as fireworks are not illegal like down under
too hot, too bright, too loud - even memories of guilt and things like that can set it off...
depends on the stimulation. Sometimes I just shut down and can't function. Other times i get discombobulated everything begins to feel like it blends together
oof
it must be hard to remember what happens during those moments when everything blends together
yeah
i guess im also glad i dont live in europe?
its not like there arent fireworks here but i honestly dont remember when they're used
its very rare
It sound like Palia will be perfect then.
Ooh? Where are you from, Rin?
sound is what gets me the most. all the voices blend together into one. it even becomes hard to really know what is my inner voice and what is the sound around me
Australia
I wanna go to Australia
Nice! Well, you don't have to deal with fireworks but freaky spiders, snakes and other stuff that can kill you is in abundance, I hear.
Its so freaking bueatyful
I think heat has gotten me the most (because Australia)
during highschool i basically had to just grit my teeth and bear with it while i was walking around in the sun
my hair is black which makes summers even worse. my uniform was also black.
why.
Australia is the place I always think I want to go but I know I don't... I am anxiety personified. Going somewhere where everything wants to kill me sounds like a bad idea.
i saw a spider in my shower the other day
i tried to take my shower as fast as possible cause i didnt want to bother it...
Australian summers are terrible, but then again, so are Australian winters really
uniform being black is just torture, wtf
If you stay in a city you'll be fine. Probably. Despite all the stereotypes, I haven't seen that many dangerous animals in my life
So no random drop bears
:)
kjBjbbhjBSfjh
Guy Fawkes day and New Years Eve here in NZ for fireworks, i think. I really don't like them now that i'm older. lots of mess and noise.
professional displays can be good though, that way everyone gets to see it and it's safer.
Will they have them in Palia? could be cool if they had the kind they use in LOTR. big ol dragon firework
Its not as common as internet states. I really recommend visiting, and jumping to new zealand while there
kjBjbbhjBSfjh to you too
Unless a koala falls on your face and has a panic attack, then no
hello
The wildest animal i have seen in the wild here in netherlands is a boar
Sup
If I could I'd totally go to New Zealand, There is a game studio there I'd love to drop in and say hi to lol
new greeting just dropped-
Boars are scary
I've been to Sydney, it was nice. people were nice, weather was nice, and the whole place smelled like sweet earth/dirt to me. was just pleasant
But lets get back to palia shall we
You mean Palia isn't Austerlia in another dimension?
Sydney is nice, but it can be awful annoying to get around - traffic is an absolute nightmare
we can also continue the interesting topics on #๐ฌโoff-topic-chat because I'm curious too tbh lol
being 'high functioning' autistic kinda sucks
cause people expect you to either 'act autistic' or they think im just a completely normal person with no disabilities and its like
i cant live up to either expectation sorry
ill go to #๐ฌโoff-topic-chat
That's been my experience with most cities, the worst have a one way traffic system and no ring roads for suburbs
valid, i get that! expections kinda suck tbh
I hope you didn't take my joke yesterday seriously by the way ๐ฅบ I felt bad after making it, I am kind soul I promise
Is the preAplha under NDA or are people sharing content?
Under nda
We are under NDA, but even if we weren't there is no content to be shared yet โบ๏ธ
NDA

Thanks Guys
So whats on top of NDA ?
ADN?
Do feel free to check out the pinned unofficial FAQ. In the 1st couple weeks, we were able to have a bit more of an interactive chat with the developers. Expect any answer to change but gives you a flavour of direction.
no not at all, it was very funny and i took it well! didnt hurt my feelings i promise! /sincere
Alright good. I tried to DM you but wasn't able to cause not friends. I just wanted to make sure โบ๏ธ thank you
did milky make a bad joke
No, it wasn't bad really. It could have been taken bad though if I was trying to be mean. But I'm not ๐ฅบ
oh sorry about that! it was very kind of you to try to reach out though!
Hello!
Hey friend โบ๏ธ
hi!
You live by the meme, you die by the meme. Get him boys! Wait, memes can kill, right?
How are you? :)
I am good today. How are you โบ๏ธ
is there any gameplay from testers yet.
nervous but okay! how about you?
Not yet, friend. We couldn't show it even if there was though ๐ฅบ
Im great too!
Didn't know there is a content creator survey, do you think is late to film it? Even if 0 viewers watch your streams?
I just discover the game it look so gooooood
Okay! :)
i hope it's going well and your having fun!!
Won't hurt you to do it if you do stream re. of player count.
Just understand that they if they are looking for streamers, there are a few obvious metrics they will use to prioritise
We haven't started playing yet. But I am very excited!
Guys can someone explain the ppl who got currently selected? Like does it have to do at all with registering on the website? Because I was a bit confused when I saw it was a discord only thing?
Niceee, where are you most exited about?
There's no negatives to just filling out the form, right? So go for it 
Yeah i see it too i fill out even if i have a really small community x)
heyy I just found out about this game.......is it like building a community?? are killing beasts and the such involved??
From what I have read that's a no
Yes but combat is a small part of the game
oh thanks
There will be hunting but combat is not the priority
Not killing for nor, but will have hunting
Well there you go... proved wrong
But there is hunting in the game
Hi
