💬│palia-discussions

[livid wyvern]

I think the game will focus more on hunting than combat

[undone tartan]

Have you ever HEARD of the Harvest Moon series?

[livid wyvern]

Like wild-life

[noble compass]

Chapaa.

[brisk ivy]

I consider crafting a form of quest. You collect X materials, then you get a reward.

[celest maple]

@undone tartan Nope.. probably a good reason for that xD

[rose mulch]

Played itand loved it, but would never pay month to month to play it.

[celest maple]

Chuu.

[brittle forge]

well, according to them they're gonna have both. Though "traditional combat" seems to be set at a later stage in the development

[haughty coyote]

@rose mulch then tell me why a Tale in the Desert has been online since 2003 ? 🤷‍♀️

[celest maple]

Thats what I mean. Even if its just farming, fishing etc. A quest to produce X amount of carrots for example would be nice.

[noble compass]

Chapaaa~

[celest maple]

How about daily quest???

[mint kelp]

So would Star Wars Galaxies, where you could just be a merchant for the rest of your days if you wanted

[livid wyvern]

I guess hunting could be seen as a form of combat if you think about it. If you encounter a wild animal that's hostile, you're forced to go into combat with it. Though, you could also see it as a hunt for its skin or meat, or something. I am not entirely sure how it would play out but I'd love to see what they do with it.

[pliant trellis]

Heeeey

[celest maple]

Or that, which can lead to a reward in your home etc etc

[rose mulch]

It's a matter of economics.

[haughty coyote]

this too 🙂

[lunar coyote]

and people were happily living their lives.... until... Jedi happened

[patent adder]

Hullo 😄

[celest maple]

👌

[celest maple]

Simple quests like planting carrots would be good.

[brittle forge]

yeah, kinda. But they specifically separated hunting and traditional combat, so these two things will be different

[mint kelp]

Everything changed when the fire nation jedi attacked

[thorny bear]

@celest maple This is not the typical mmorpg, this is more like animal crossing, stardew valley, sims and such.

[noble compass]

Chapaa~

[celest maple]

Stardew valley, animal crossing, and sims had "quests" xD

[torn orchid]

Has there been a more exact approximation for the pre alpha except soon™, is it weeks, months etc.?

[rose mulch]

They also had death. Just saying.

[celest maple]

^

[rose mulch]

At least, The Sims

[noble compass]

Palia doesn't

[brittle forge]

I'm sure there will be some sort of daily/weekly activities. Almost every live-service game has that, for good reason. You want your players to have a reason to log in

[thorny bear]

Never said this one doesn't have quests

[still fog]

I think removing the "kill 5 boars" quests and general mob farming, boss killing mechanics from a game would be a good thing. This game has potential to be good without a combat system. I'd like to see where they go with crafting, farming, building, fishing (etc.) and community interaction before any fighting mechanics are implemented.

[brittle forge]

I just hope it's not forcing you to log in every day

[celest maple]

Then what was your comment about? I knew what this games inspirations were xD

[haughty coyote]

AC and SDV had "passing out" 😏

[undone tartan]

Yeah, same. That's the biggest drawback of Animal Crossing, imo.

[rose mulch]

I am willing to see what they can do to keep us engaged.

[brisk ivy]

I hope that there's community activities. Like in Animal Crossing, you can set up community work projects that require money to complete. Other players can contribute to them. That might make an awesome MMO thing.

[noble compass]

There is hunting, but explicitly no combat system.

[still fog]

Every game (of this genre) on the face of the planet has the same type of combat and general PvE interactions. It'd be nice to see something that changes the way of this sub genre.

[brittle forge]

Didn't know AC had that

[rose mulch]

I don't need combat, but I do need a challenge.

[still fog]

Which I'm very happy about

[still fog]

Agreed

[celest maple]

Still not getting why you said that champ

[noble compass]

Chapaa

[brittle forge]

oh actually, I guess AC was working on real time wasn't it? Heard about some people gaming the system by setting their console date forward to skip some stuff? Never played it myself though

[haughty coyote]

@rose mulch that depend on players because it is advertised as community simulation MMO as such what A Tale in the Desert is 😛

[dreamy thorn]

that google doc is amazing

[brisk ivy]

AC was working on system time.

[undone tartan]

It was, yes. And if you don't log in frequently enough, your character will get roaches in their house and, in earlier games, bad hairdos.

[brisk ivy]

So people could time travel.

[still fog]

I'm eager to see where they go with this. Something along the lines of an obstacle course, in-depth fishing/crafting mechanics, and complex riddles or puzzles would be cool.

[thorny bear]

You asked if the game had pvp, trying to help you understand the kind of game it is

[thorny bear]

They update it daily too

[celest maple]

My question was answered.

[still fog]

Thumb wrestling

[granite oar]

.

[dreamy thorn]

well thats dang awesome

[still fog]

There should be a snow biome with snowball fights lmao

[celest maple]

^thats PVP

[brittle forge]

ah I see, yeah that makes sense then. I wouldn't enjoy that for a single player game. I enjoy being able to just not play it for half a year and continue where I left of without repercussions like in Stardew Valley

[still fog]

Any competition between players could be considered PvP

[balmy trout]

that sounds epic

[rose mulch]

A Tale In the Desert works because of varying economies, and is not really considered one of the big MMOs

[still fog]

Right??

[celest maple]

Well thats legit what PVP means xD

[brisk ivy]

Did they ever mention if the seasons change? The non-MMO games of this nature usually try for season changes.

[thorny bear]

I'm hoping they implement some sort of pvp, like duels or an arena

[brittle forge]

Well, they mentioned having competitions instead of fight-to-the-death kinda PvP

[balmy trout]

summer water fight events

[celest maple]

Competitions are PVP

[brittle forge]

yes, that's what I'm saying

[haughty coyote]

@rose mulch but it still has ran official server for 18 years non stop 😏

[shut hinge]

I just hope we get to be a robot/construct that's all

[rose mulch]

I want pillow fights 😉

[brittle forge]

basically having competitions as a substitute to "traditional" MMO PvP

[undone tartan]

Exactly! And on top of that, Animal Crossing also runs out of stuff for you to even do each day. There's a limited number of fossils to dig up, the stores sell different items each day, and bugs mostly stop appearing at night. All that's really there for you at all times is fishing, which isn't that engaging in AC.

[plush sleet]

Yes pillow fight would be awesome

[still fog]

I think they more specifically meant player combat, dueling, and violent/death mechanics. Player competitions won't be excluded from the game, I don't think.

[rose mulch]

@haughty coyote EQ has had servers since 1998 or so> UO since before then. MUDs since before the WWW existed...

[brittle forge]

yeah, I heard the endgame is a real problem for AC

[still fog]

I believe they specifically said no dueling will be implemented, but hope remains for other player competitions 😁

[balmy trout]

Water baloon fight

[undone tartan]

It's a lot worse in the latest one; earlier games had super expensive goals you could go for, stuff like golden furniture, mansion houses, etc. They took most of those out in New Horizons.

[still fog]

Snowball fights 😎

[brittle lance]

Friendly compaction was what they said, right?

[rose mulch]

I'm cool with no players killing each other. I do want to have a challenge though.

[brittle forge]

For PvP, to quote the actual people behind this game:

• Its possible we introduce PvP in small ways in the future. Currently its not.
• Competitive activities is higher priority than 'pvp'
• If PvP means competitive gameplay then we'll have some
• if PVP means duels in the middle of town, nah

[brisk ivy]

That and AC:NH didn't start off with all of the furniture sets that previous versions had, if I recall.

[still fog]

I'm maintaining my campaign for winter projectile warfare

[thorny bear]

I'll take whatever they give us lol

[brittle forge]

that sounds like fun

[celest maple]

I want to be able to burn my mates house down

[brittle lance]

PvP = Player vs Player. It dose not say that it have to be combat...

[brittle forge]

ouch, and even on the one AC that basically broke all the records

[balmy trout]

you can do that in minecraft

[haughty coyote]

true true but ATID is proof that non-pvp/combat mmo can exist 🙂

[celest maple]

Coll this is Palia tho?

[rose mulch]

If I make more money than the next person, that's PvP too.

[brittle forge]

yeah, I don't know about that one mate lol

[rose mulch]

Stop trying to redefine PvP.

[celest maple]

^

[rose mulch]

It means players fighting other player.

[quick dove]

Bruh, Gimme some good fishing and am sold

[balmy trout]

oop

[undone rover]

I just realized even if I get a pre alpha key I can't play because I'm 13 and you need to be 18 to sign an NDA

[still fog]

In snowball fights

[haughty coyote]

yep

[undone tartan]

New Horizons focused a lot on the midgame; the early game has very little for you to do other than gathering and crafting, and the endgame also has very little for you to do. But the midgame is when you unlock the shops, museum, and terraforming.

[rose mulch]

If you want to say competitive, that's fine.

[patent adder]

What a bully 🥺

[celest maple]

Just silly. Not a bully

[balmy trout]

im no bully 🥴

[rocky fulcrum]

same, fishing + farming + cooking = me sold

[thorny bear]

There won't be any pvp in this game, at least not for a few months after launch

There will be competitions

[brittle forge]

yeah, from what I heard people basically tried to reach terraforming as fast as possible to properly build their island

[still fog]

Brewing as well ^^

[junior bison]

bunch of people fishing together, then when someone levels up EVERYONE says "nice"

[patent adder]

Mmhm, mmhm, whatever you say 😜

[rose mulch]

I'm in then.

[brittle lance]

So if a racing game have PvP, you always expect it to be with guns and missiles and what not?

[patent adder]

Teasing of course, sorry. 😄

[balmy trout]

making coffee or hot chocolate

[celest maple]

Listen. PVP is Player Versus Player. That is anything where 1 person is against another. I.E, Competitions, Duels, Fights, etc.

[brittle forge]

Can't have a village without the alcohol

[rocky fulcrum]

😐 👉 👉
YES

[junior bison]

this ain't a racing game mate

[balmy trout]

even T e a

[still fog]

I'm not sure of the game's rating thus far, but I'm assuming their won't be any alcohol, so coffee/tea/potions would be cool

[haughty coyote]

yeah competition is part of pvp sadly

[brittle lance]

It was an example

[rose mulch]

So, in a racing game, you never "nudged" another car?

[vagrant stone]

excited for an mmorpg that isn't combat focused, tbh. it will be refreshing. hoping they don't add pvp and stick to their original plans 🙂

[junior bison]

and even then, in most racing games you can run into the other players to push them off the road

[quick dove]

time to make vodka comrades, we must farm the potatoes

[still fog]

Potions that increase movement speed and things of that nature

[still fog]

KKomrade

[brittle forge]

if you asked a WoW player what's PvP, they'll tell you it's killing another player in an arena or open world. Yes, competitions are technically PvP, but it's not PvP in the traditional sense of most MMOs

[brittle lance]

I would not call it combat, that's for sure. I would call it racing

[brisk ivy]

He's trying to say that you can vs. another person without violence. Like a hotdog eating contest!

[lament bone]

GOING TO MAKE LOVE POTIONS

[thorny bear]

Search for the term on Google

[rocky fulcrum]

It looked like the PC in the trailer was drinking tea/another hot beverage, so here's hoping 🤞

[noble compass]

Chapaa supremacy

[still fog]

NO

[rocky fulcrum]

ono

[celest maple]

I dont need to search the term on google. I know what PVP means... Player Versus Player.. What is a competition Petyr?

[brittle forge]

if the only way to get love from an NPC is to drug them, you should probably change your attitude haha

[brittle lance]

Only works on NPC's tho xD

[still fog]

What would happen after drinking it? o_o

[lament bone]

well that is all i need man 😥 I cant get real love

[brittle lance]

Roll a D20, see what happens xD

[junior bison]

Might finally get myself a partner that way :LUL:

[soft rain]

1

[brittle forge]

if it's a 1, you accidentally mistook it for rat poison or what?

[livid wyvern]

yikes

[brittle lance]

Uhhh yeah... Gods help you

[celest maple]

Nyuff

[noble compass]

There will be pvp in Palia. But not in the way of duels in the center of the city. But competitive challenges - according to the unofficial Faq

[soft rain]

The classic D20 experience

[celest maple]

Imma back

[celest maple]

I know this already.

[thorny bear]

Ok buddy, then all the games who have online capabilities or lan co op, have pvp

[hushed oar]

Did the pre-alpha already start?

[distant oar]

Hey, folks. Let's take a bit of a break from the pvp chat for a moment. It seems to be going around in a circle and getting a lil' heated.

[thorny bear]

I love me some need for speed pvp

[distant oar]

Not yet!

[pine moat]

You can sign up :)

[rose mulch]

@celest maple I am specifically looking for a game where players don't fight each other. But you are stretching the term. If, in RL, I can lift more weight than another person, that is competitive. If, however, we use the weights to fight each other, that is PvP IRL.

[celest maple]

Mate dont get angry because you clearly dont understand that a competition is Player versus another player xD

[still fog]

"PvP" and "PvP combat" are generally considered to be the same thing, when they really shouldn't be

[brittle forge]

nope, it's still registration period. No invites were sent out yet

[pine moat]

Do we have any dates ? 🤔

[thorny bear]

Want to do some pvp on fifa?

[noble compass]

Ikr but I was just repeating what is in the faq :D

[still fog]

I'll be your date ;D

[brittle lance]

Snowball fight with potion effects added to them (love potion included) 😄

[noble compass]

But let's talk about chapaa supremacy

[celest maple]

FIFA is a player vs player game is it not? xD

[pine moat]

😉 😍

[still fog]

Facts

[rose mulch]

Stepping away from the PvP talk.

[still fog]

[hushed oar]

Okay! Thanks! Just signed up and idk if I get selected but nevertheless I'm excited for the game hahaha

[thorny bear]

Exactly we can pvp in every game

[brittle forge]

nope, not really anything specific. Just vague soonTM statements

[celest maple]

Thats right mate. Except for Sims 🙂

[noble compass]

Yeah, right?
Chapaa is honor.
Chapaa is trust.
Chapaa is glory.
Chapaa is love.
Chapaa is life.

[pine moat]

Okok 😂

[balmy trout]

oh damn there could be a marriage system 🧐

[celest maple]

Im glad youre finally getting it

[pine moat]

I'm ready

[thorny bear]

You can fight in the sims

[thin glen]

Hi new here wanted to ask if there was a date for when keys might get sent out? I wanna try this game out so bad lol

[celest maple]

Sims is singleplayer my guy

[mint kelp]

WHat about PvT? Player vs Themselves. Because I'm just trying to be a better me 😆

[celest maple]

Reject hunanity become chapaa

[brittle forge]

there's multiplayer mods for the sims, so that's technically wrong

[plush kelp]

hi

[thorny bear]

Sims 2 has split screen

[noble compass]

Hi new !

[celest maple]

Technically base game is singleplayer

[noble compass]

Yes~

[brittle forge]

hey there

[still fog]

You're scaring me

[nimble rapids]

i playt robloc

[echo lake]

sanme

[celest maple]

And how exactly can i sign in for pre alpha?

[rose mulch]

I like that 🙂

[echo lake]

i love jailbreak

[nimble rapids]

adopt me is better

[noble compass]

Palia.com

[still fog]

Head over to the website :))

[brisk ivy]

I wonder if this will be one of those games where the pre-alpha is like an almost complete game or if it's going to be more like an actual pre-alpha.

[dreamy thorn]

visit their website

[brittle forge]

https://palia.com/ go here

[distant oar]

Through the website!

[haughty coyote]

not impossibility

[nimble rapids]

shush

[celest maple]

F to doubt

[haughty coyote]

like players getting married

[celest maple]

Ahh then i already did

[hushed oar]

You can go to the site! palia.com

[mystic vale]

If you look at Sims as an architecture planning simulator you can make contests out of comparing people's buildings. Pvp :]

[balmy trout]

obviously there probably wont be itd be interesting with a sharing inventory kind of thing,

[thorny bear]

I have hopes

[celest maple]

Probably some redflags for that

[dreamy thorn]

good luck, maybe you'll get a key

[thorny bear]

Google it

[still fog]

Shared housing and things of that nature

[haughty coyote]

hey you can marry other player in FF14 😛

[brittle forge]

you can doubt it, but it's real

[celest maple]

So whats your point mate? Youre looking kinda silly

[hushed oar]

Question: Is there a PVE in this game?

[still fog]

Palia isn't just a game anymore. It's an extension of our reality.

[pine moat]

There should be dungeon poping at some point

[celest maple]

Hahaha... I never have lzck in this

[brittle lance]

RP marriage

[haughty coyote]

exploration and discovering secrets is PVE 😏

[brittle forge]

PvE as in fighting monsters? Not in the current state, nope. There is hunting though

[celest maple]

Hunting is PVE xD

[haughty coyote]

nah PVE isn't just that

[brittle forge]

and they plan on bringing "traditional combat" like that later

[still fog]

Fighting fish instead

[balmy trout]

yeee

[thorny bear]

Go back to my first reply to you and read one msg at a time, i'm trying to help you

[still fog]

And murdering trees and rocks

[rose mulch]

I can tell you how to marry a person in an MMO. Roleplaying, lots of chat. Actually getting to know another person as a human being. You know, like RL.

[mint kelp]

Until you find out it's just you trying to fight away the existential crisis welling up inside you

[balmy trout]

itd be a iseless feature to me but still fun :')

[celest maple]

help yourself by educating yourself what PVP actually means xD
And then while youre at it, look up what a competition is

[thorny bear]

Well, i tried

[hushed oar]

So the first part would be world building. How about the skill system? Do you get to learn them by doing actions or is there a skill tree?

[celest maple]

🤡

[still fog]

Let's all agree that PvP is just competitions between two groups of players

[mystic vale]

one or more human players compete against other live players. = pvp

[celest maple]

Exactly thank you

[celest maple]

👌

[little shadow]

good evening palia pals

[celest maple]

Neleimour in with confirmation?

[still fog]

Kinda like... snowball fights

[celest maple]

Hellloooo

pvp = player versus player MindBLOWN

[hushed oar]

Good afternoon!

[celest maple]

Some people dont understand :/

[still fog]

Hello fellow pink name

[distant oar]

Alright, that's enough of the PVP chat. Second time I'm asking.

[brittle lance]

Can we have animal racing? 😄

[celest maple]

put on beds are burning good music for good work uwu

[little shadow]

let’s form a pink name neighborhood

[celest maple]

Aye aye

No more pvp debate

[still fog]

I like it

[celest maple]

How many memebers we at now

[brittle forge]

I'm honestly not too sure. I just know that they plan on giving people a certain degree of freedom in what they spec their skills in, so maybe more like a skill tree?

[still fog]

It's a little P2W but xD Rich kids only

[little shadow]

59,408 @celest maple

[haughty coyote]

almost 60k

[celest maple]

Almost 60k pog

[celest maple]

Damn that's alot

[rose mulch]

I thought we agreed to drop the debate on what PvP means?

[thorny bear]

Didn't read the first warning, i'm on my phone. Sorry boss

[celest maple]

Well Ive gotta go to school now see ya

Probably gonna hit that 75k milestone maybe even before pre-alpha?

Hype hype hype

[still fog]

100k soon(tm)

[gilded sleet]

"There's still a few things we need to get ready before the Pre-Alpha (that starts so soon)."

stop teasing me please

[celest maple]

So soon yet so far away

[brittle forge]

so soon...in several months

[balmy trout]

honestly this game might be the one 🧐

[still fog]

Gonna marry this game

[celest maple]

I’m starting to see pre alpha hallucinations even when I’m not sleeping someone send help thx

[still fog]

Just like I married WoW all those years ago

[brisk ivy]

So which of the 5 people are going to get lucky enough to get in? 😈

[brittle forge]

oh damn, we're at almost 60k people in here already?

[hushed oar]

I just wanna be a blacksmith and hammer stuff hahaha

[brittle forge]

I joined when there was like 5-10k

[rose mulch]

So, assuming this isn't going to be a farming or walking simulator, does anyone know what challenges we can expect?

[celest maple]

All aboard the hype train

[still fog]

Snowball fights and rigorous fishing

[thorny bear]

How do you check the actual member count?

[celest maple]

Mobile can do it easier but invite links usually have an approximate count

[still fog]

Anyone play Sea of Thieves? I think their fishing system is pretty nice.

[brittle forge]

hmm I saw the game before, but never even knew there was fishing in it

[celest maple]

I unfortunately never got a chance. 😔

A question... Where you are all from?

[haughty coyote]

Finland

[thorny bear]

I'm on my phone, where do i go?

[little shadow]

I’m half asleep but I must mention bees to any lurking devs. pls bees

[brittle lance]

Denmark 🇩🇰

[rose mulch]

Mid Atlantic coast USA

[brittle forge]

Germany

[celest maple]

Finland

[little shadow]

Go to channel select, at top by name click the dots

[balmy trout]

uk 🇬🇧

[celest maple]

Me too

[still fog]

There are a few short videos on youtube that cover it nicely. I think it could do well in a game like Palia.

[hushed oar]

I hope we get skills by doing specific actions. I mean there should be the basic skill tree first then you experiment and discover other skills just like those in webnovels hahaha

[thorny bear]

Thanks!

[subtle badge]

Malaysia 🇲🇾

[brisk ivy]

Bees are fun, but I wish we could weaponize them into fun social toys. Unleash the bees!

[brittle forge]

yeah, figured from your name haha

[still fog]

BEEKEEPING

[little shadow]

I don’t want to weaponize I just want to have them for honey making

[celest maple]

Lmaooo maybe in Minecraft. This game’s too docile for that

[brisk ivy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYtXuBN1Hvc

[brittle lance]

I like the Forestry mod for Minecraft a lot!

[rose mulch]

Frag, I just want to save the bees. Well, specifically the honey bees.

[brittle forge]

there's 155 people who used their boosts on this server lol

[balmy trout]

Pets in the game, its bound to have em

[brittle forge]

it maxes out after 30

[celest maple]

Gotta show their love and dedication

[little shadow]

hype never maxes out

[celest maple]

I want a pet Bee

[stray yacht]

Hey everyone, i need 1 French player for request ^^

[still fog]

I had honey bees swarming my work the other day. Well over 100 of them flying around, climbing all over windows and up by the ceiling. It was madness.

[balmy trout]

pet snek

[celest maple]

Lizard

[balmy trout]

https://c.tenor.com/MOs5uNpYuAEAAAAM/snake-little.gif

[brittle forge]

it sure does, usually the moment the game drops and doesn't meet all the expectations haha

[finite oyster]

Can we get at least thousands of different challenges so I can spend the rest of my miserable life in this game please 🙂

[celest maple]

Sorry for late answering but i work besides

[celest maple]

TURTLE 😮

[celest maple]

Oh god that would terrify me

[still fog]

Pink names unite

[hushed oar]

I have a turtle. Surprisingly they are good pets. Easy to handle hahaha

[brittle lance]

Pet odder

[celest maple]

I’m personally going to be fishing forever probably

[little shadow]

This pink name attack in chat 🥲 we unloved

[celest maple]

I have 4 pet snakes, theyre chill too

[still fog]

My boss is deathly allergic. I've never seen him squeal and squirm around the way he did that day xD

[celest maple]

Yeah that’s a NOPE from me

[brittle forge]

I had a friend who's pet turtle once ran away. No idea how he managed that

[still fog]

😔

[rose mulch]

Don't be afraid of honey bees. If they sting you, they die. They're basically pacifists unless you invade their home.

[celest maple]

turtles have legs 😉

[still fog]

They tore apart the yellow jacket hive that was out back

[hushed oar]

Maybe it climbed from the enclosure or aquarium. They fast too

[still fog]

Usually it's the other way around

[rose mulch]

And they are tasty 😛

[celest maple]

Still, I just have an irrational fear of crawling or flying insects. Might be a phobia lol.

[keen orbit]

let them bee

[undone tartan]

Ground bees are the same, except they build their homes in your lawn and will try to kill you for stepping on their nest. I should know, I almost died to those dang things.

[celest maple]

what..

[plush sleet]

That’s ok everybody scared of something

[brittle forge]

idk if I'd call them "fast" since his was walking about as fast as a snail and took several breaks

[celest maple]

You french or something xD

[brittle forge]

he was just very careless

[celest maple]

I personally prefer frog taste over turtles

[plush sleet]

Turtle stew?

[celest maple]

But I can confirm, have had both

[brittle forge]

I'll take neither, thank you very much

[still fog]

I just like philly cheese steaks, yall are wild

[celest maple]

In Australia we eat normal food xD

[hushed oar]

Ohhh what turtle is it? I have a red-eared slider. They run fast maybe not run but sprint haha

[plush sleet]

Hey Texas has great bbq

[rose mulch]

More like tomboy "Murican redneck. Snapping turtle soup is delicious.

[celest maple]

:S

[keen orbit]

I don't know if there are edible frogs in Australia.

[celest maple]

Really? I would’ve assumed aussies had wild stuff like ostrich egg omelettes or kangaroo jerky.

[rose mulch]

Those are good too 😄

[brittle forge]

eh, no clue what type of turtle it was. Been a few years since then and never asked

[plush sleet]

Same

[balmy trout]

i really hope the character creation will be really well put together

[celest maple]

Ostrich? You mean Emu?

We do have kangaroo jerky

Then again maybe I’m just stereotyping lol

[haughty coyote]

in here we have Kalakukko and Lanttukukko and yes they doesn't have english name since it doesn't have rooster inside lol

[hushed oar]

I think they have kangaroo jerky

[celest maple]

oooo id love to try some

[still fog]

I always make my characters look just like me. Complete and total character immersion.

[plush sleet]

I think it will be because there are a lot of devs from different game studios

[rose mulch]

My aunt married an Australian she met online. Vegemite is tasy

[celest maple]

Tastes like beef, but stronger

[celest maple]

Love me some Vegemite

I’d assume so. Probably like a gamey taste

[celest maple]

Indeed

[balmy trout]

i dont want snother Tera or aura kingdom type customisation where all you change is hair, eyes and thats about it

tera has some extra body customisation but its still kinda bleh

[hushed oar]

Same. Maybe black desert type?

[still fog]

I imagine hair, eyes, and skin tone will be the bare minimum. I wonder if they'll add height and weight as well?

[balmy trout]

ooh yes

[haughty coyote]

how about PSO2 like ?

[rose mulch]

Australia does scare the poop out of me though. There are nearly invisible jelly fish that will murder you.

[haughty coyote]

🤣

[celest maple]

Black desert customization was too detailed for me. I didn’t understand what half the buttons did LOL

[brittle forge]

you can check this https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ECHPsDvyC0KP6ldYRaeFtmR0mhwBVGckWEPcH_zNc7E/edit# it's an FAQ put together by Vlad (also pinned in #❓│old-team-answers-pre-alpha ) it has a whole section on character creation

[balmy trout]

somewhat, i dont really like pso2 tho, it just doesnt click with me

[brittle forge]

it likely won't be PSO2 or BDO-like, since it's UE4

[hushed oar]

At first I was also confused but you'll get the hang of it or just select design from community hahaha

[rose mulch]

Since this is like second life V2, I want character customization at least as good as Fallout4.

[haughty coyote]

but character creator in it is really good, you can make anything with it

wish Palia has same like xD

[hushed oar]

Maybe like MH: Rise?

[haughty coyote]

oooh ARK like then ? 🤣

[celest maple]

Probably will just use most default options, I’m not too big on customizing. But I definitely see the appeal!

[haughty coyote]

ARK and PSO2 has similar

[brittle forge]

we'll see. I hope there's a good amount of customisation, but it might also be mostly based on presets and mix-and-match different "assets" if you will

[balmy trout]

i see

[wooden widget]

@radiant tartan by default discord has 2k character limit, answer to your #game-suggestions

[balmy trout]

from the faq, they are planning to make it quite a varied way to customise your character

[celest maple]

A majority of my character design experience came from making wii miis lmao

[radiant tartan]

@wooden widget thanks mister, but it's bypassed by nitro

[brittle forge]

at least there's no gender technically, only body types. So you're not restricted in that matter

[hushed oar]

Ooooh is there a race selection?

[balmy trout]

hell yeah

[brittle forge]

Human is the only playable race atm

[wooden widget]

Hnng sounds odd but alright

[rose mulch]

No, everyone is a human

[thorny bear]

Humans at first, elves in development

[hushed oar]

Oh damn. I wanted to play the robot LOL

[celest maple]

iirc dwarven race might’ve been confirmed though or at least brought up once

[balmy trout]

now i can finally make a proper femboy in an mmorpg 🧐

[celest maple]

I want to be a Chuu

Or maybe it was just a side comment I need to refind the source

[hushed oar]

The robot one! A blacksmith robot!

[bleak jetty]

I just joined 5 min ago and i think this will be one of the nicest community ever XD

[brittle forge]

only one I heard was elves being considered/developed. Haven't heard of dwarves coming any time soon

[brittle forge]

we try haha

[hushed oar]

Is there no news for the robot or android just like in the trailer?

[rose mulch]

Unless you debate PvP 😉

[brittle forge]

Nope, he's very much a unique character so far. And he's a Golem according to the character sheet btw

[celest maple]

Most things are NDA rn so honestly it’s all speculation

[brittle forge]

also 3000 years old haha

[rose mulch]

J/K, I really want a chill game.

[hushed oar]

PVP is not for me. I just want to be a blacksmith. I already had enough of those from other games.

[balmy trout]

cant wait to see how this game turns out,

[celest maple]

Golem likes pebbles. That checks out and makes sense

[halcyon basin]

yeah id be less in pvp and be a reliable person for people to buy and sell from

[hushed oar]

Oooh I see. So there would be a job like an enchanter or magic engineering?

[brittle forge]

gotta collect all the pebbles to gain favour of Einar

[rose mulch]

If they are legit taking pre-alpha applications, they are minimum 2 years out on releasing the game.

[balmy trout]

imagone you can make a business and hire other players 🧐

[still fog]

All the pebbles.

[thorny bear]

That is all the info we know so far

[noble compass]

Chapaa supremacy

[halcyon basin]

i can wait

[bitter marten]

So Palia had set NPCs and high tech stuff that's existed for thousands of years. I wonder if the cross server multiplayer aspect will basically be multiverse theory.

[plush kelp]

palia

[noble compass]

I can't

[still fog]

This

[hushed oar]

Okay! Thanks! I'll read it

[halcyon basin]

yeah i was lying i cant either

[celest maple]

I’m waiting for like 3 games at once rn

[viscid aurora]

hey atleast this will prob come out

[haughty coyote]

well they already answered it is just one server

[bitter marten]

Oh. Woops.

[bleak jetty]

Wait there are jobs??

[brittle forge]

they denied that it will take "years" till the game will come out, so probably closer to a year than two

but you never know with development ofc

[balmy trout]

i can wait to be fair, blue protocol is what I'm looking for for the next year 🧐

[viscid aurora]

they have been working on it foe 3 years already

[celest maple]

Palia, LoL RPG, and Hytale

[bitter marten]

Was about to say that. Always double any rough estimate.

[still fog]

Keep in mind, it's been in development since 2018, and this is an experienced group of people.

So it may not take as long as we think.

[hushed oar]

I'm also waiting for blue protocol

[brittle forge]

yeah, it's not like they started this project half a year ago

[celest maple]

Will be playing more Valorant probably while I wait lmao

[bitter marten]

So how many people still have any hope on an actual release for star citizen?

[balmy trout]

i really hope blue protocol doesnt fail cos it look gorgeous

[brittle forge]

yeah, BP is the next thing that will actually come out and interest me I think. Although there won't be a global version any time soon either, so

at least I can use my Japanese for something

[distant lark]

😍
😛

[rose mulch]

I can't see a true polished game released without a minimum of a year of testing :/

[balmy trout]

theres rumours that itll be released in the west as well by the end of the year but no confirmed source

[hushed oar]

Yeah, I saw gameplay from the testers and I would say I get Kurtzpel vibes from it

[rose mulch]

LMAO

[balmy trout]

i tried kurtzpel, its really not what i expected

its not even open world

[brittle forge]

we'll see once the alpha rolls out. Basing the quality/progress of a game off of a trailer is a pretty hard afterall

[still fog]

Oh absolutely, but a year isn't quite the same as "years." And we're not sure how big the alpha will be, and if it will grow with time.

[brittle forge]

please don't mention that game...

[celest maple]

True, there will definitely be quite a few bugs for a few weeks after release. Hopefully all major ones get patched though through the pre registered testing phase

[bitter marten]

Depends on the game. Tbh the theme is what's new for Palia, they don't seem to be doing much they haven't already done before in terms of mechanics and features.

[hushed oar]

Back in the old days kurtzpel was good but now it sucks

[hushed oar]

Aye sir!

[halcyon basin]

Thanks for filling out the survey! You'll get an email in the next few weeks if you're invited. it says few weeks but idk if that just means invited to play or to play when alpha comes out

[brittle forge]

Kurtzpel was one of the biggest disappointments I've seen in a while

when I first saw it, I was really excited. Then it released...

[spice bridge]

does anyone know if its going to cost money? if so how much? :o

[brittle forge]

monetisation is still unknown

[celest maple]

Cyberpunk was a joke imo

[balmy trout]

rea sad how low the bar is for anime style mmos

[bitter marten]

I hope it's upfront cost. Free game with community focus. Ohgodno

[mystic gale]

We don't know yet. I would suggest reading the #❔│game-faqs channel which has answers to a lot of these questions

[celest maple]

I actually laughed so hard

[still fog]

That's when you'd get the invitation, not when alpha comes out. I don't believe the devs have announced any kind of due date just yet.

[halcyon basin]

ah ok

[autumn rune]

[coarse wadi]

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen!

[rose mulch]

If it's as buggy as Cyberpunk, the game will never live.

[hushed oar]

The only acceptable thing now is genshin haha

[sand barn]

I kind of had a feeling it would end up a major disappointment as soon as I heard of it.. 😞

[halcyon basin]

good morning to you

[bitter marten]

Well this game has hype so we can all just wait for some dude on reddit to leak the test footage ^-^

[celest maple]

Cyberpunk was rushed too much.

[still fog]

I'd love for their to be some kind of monetary wall for game access. Free to play would be scary xD

[balmy trout]

honestly, if a game doesnt have waifus and husbandos its just not really great for the culture

[rose mulch]

Agreed, as long as they got enough of the right developers from Blizzrd, etc.

[undone tartan]

Cyberpunk had like half the features removed just to ship it out on time. The only way they'll ever redeem the game is if the free DLC include every promised feature and then some, all integrated into the base game meaningfully. I say this as someone who enjoyed the game.

[brittle forge]

Ngl, Cyberpunk is still a better game than Kurtzpel. Unless you're playing on a last-gen console, Cyberpunk is just a buggy mess of an overhyped game, but not really much worse. People simply expected another Witcher 3, which is fair after their advertisement campaigns and hype over like 9 years or how long it was in development, but what they got was simply an average open world RPG with a d*ck slider

[celest maple]

I see potential in this group of devs though. They seem to be quite open to suggestions and are flexible with change

[hushed oar]

Welp, the players asked for it even though the devs said it wasn't ready yet.

[balmy trout]

thats on like anime style games

[final grail]

@bitter marten >:^(

[celest maple]

True

[viscid aurora]

yeah

[hushed oar]

I stand with you on that one. I gonna pull for klee now hahaha

[rose mulch]

FTP just means buy our microtransactions. Will not play if that's the way they go.

[pulsar tinsel]

I'm very confused, so are people getting Pre-Alpha keys? Or are those yet to come out cause I'm seeing memes

[final grail]

@rose mulch meanwhile I'm hoping for microtrasactions that go hand in hand with trading

it can be done right rarely

[halcyon basin]

if its p2w im out

[thorny bear]

We must learn from our fallen Cyberpunk comrades, we must not rush Palia

[celest maple]

Hopefully any micro transactions are just for purely aesthetic purposes and not p2w

[brittle forge]

well, if it's just cosmetic. Some games can live off of that alone

[final grail]

yeah this kind of microtransactions

[patent adder]

Yeah, cosmetics are able to carry games

[still fog]

Even if microtransactions are purely cosmetic, I feel like it'd be damaging to this style of game. Especially since cosmetics are something that a lot of people will be farming for.

[pulsar tinsel]

I reckon Microtransactions are inevitable

[hushed oar]

I mean some of the devs are from Riot right? They do cosmetics well no p2w

[brittle forge]

but tbf, I wouldn't even know how this game can become P2W when there's barely even competition between players in that sense

[pulsar tinsel]

but they're probably mostly cosmetic

[undone tartan]

Then again, microtransactions for cosmetics would allow for the game to be free-to-play, a model that many MMOs are taking these days.

[brittle forge]

well, I heard it got a bit worse over the years in League (no idea how though, haven't played since 2014) but yeah, League primarily lives off of skins

[fresh dawn]

I'd rather have a subscription fee and absolutely ZERO microtransactions. Even cosmetic ones

[bitter marten]

I don't know if you play a lot of free mmos, but unless you don't want any public chat features free players always ruin the vibe.... And in a community focused chill game, vibe is pretty important.

[still fog]

Pay for upgraded crafting, better tools, etc. would still be considered p2w

[final grail]

kept free realms alive. the whole social aspect ended up being trading clothes. it can be fun and good if the prices are done right!

[hushed oar]

Valorant too

[celest maple]

Game currency, materials, superior gear for farming fishing or hunting, lots of ways it could go south

[brittle forge]

nah, I know how it could be p2w

[pulsar tinsel]

Look, F2P and microtransactions or subscription with cosmetic microtransactions

[final grail]

I've played free realms, which is what I was hoping for, and it was great. BUT it was 2010 and alot of us were younger. also my face was at u talking about a reddit guy leaking alpha footage LOL

[pulsar tinsel]

that's what it'll likely be

[still fog]

A community based F2P would be nightmare fuel, and could very well chase people away. Memers and trolls would be more inclined to hop on a free game.

[balmy trout]

i really hope theres no need for micro transactions to be honest, id happily pay just so micro transactions had less chance to come about

[rose mulch]

Way too many MMOs. The sub model was way more fair to the players

[hushed oar]

Some players might trade irl currency for items

[bitter marten]

Oh well yeah that's going to happen. This is no man's sky v2

Hype train of all hype trains

[still fog]

That's fair, but I'd still like to see an initial cost for entry.

[nova ember]

why?

[undone tartan]

The subscription model is also somewhat predatory, since you have to pay a monthly fee on top of paying for the game itself. Maybe have an initial buying price to keep out trolls and memers?

[fresh dawn]

@still fog Agree 100% that initial hurdle is so important to keep out toxic people and farmers (to some extent)

[final grail]

it's hard when you've played one game that has done microtransactions and f2p very well while every other game does it wrong. I'm specifically hoping for free realms level good not the sucky f2p ya kno

[brittle forge]

more like the way they're presenting it, telling us the game won't be a grind hell etc. it seems unlikely that they'll monetise a lot of these things. Most p2w games or "convenience items" as the mind controlled would call it, are simply selling you the solution to the problems they themselves created. And Palia seems to simply not include a lot of these problems, like time requirements for crafts etc.

[celest maple]

Membership like club penguin would be kind of interesting

[patent adder]

Yeah, it's hard to discuss the monetization if we have 0 idea about how the game even functions😅

[pulsar tinsel]

S6 seems very innovative. I could see this going many ways. I highly doubt any P2W being added and I can see probably a monthly subscriptions. Who knows there innovation my lead to no microtranactions but either way I'm very excited

[still fog]

Nothing's bulletproof, but it would help a lot I think

[pulsar tinsel]

they could also go the ESO route and have F2P membership and a monthly membership

[rugged barn]

I would prefer just a simple monthly reasonable fee, and no hidden monisisation

[lone relic]

Doesn't look like there's planet travel on Palia, but beyond that, pretty exciting stuff really.

[bitter marten]

I just hope if they do cosmetics they don't go the WoW route. Where all game obtained cosmetics suck, just so the store ones stand out more.

[brittle forge]

oh hell nah, ESO is terrible in that sense

[fresh dawn]

@patent adder I think that's a bad stance to take. We can speculate and I think it's important we do so early on and let the devs know what we want

[final grail]

I'm good with paying any amount of money in any particular way if I get trading, I just see a cosmetics shop as the only streamlined cosmetic trading enabler

[pulsar tinsel]

It would be very fun to have everything earned in game, that way people really respect the grind

[brittle forge]

"optional" sub costs that are basically required if you plan on playing the game properly is horrible imo

[balmy trout]

i stand for that

[pulsar tinsel]

Yeah, it could definitely be better

[nova ember]

I'd rather not have to buy the game tho either

[final grail]

if we can make clotbes/ work towards clothes with no cosmetic shop and have trading then pay to buy cost is cool :D

[brittle forge]

The only optional "subs" I genuinly enjoy are season passes

[nova ember]

oh lord, season passes

[hushed oar]

Yeah. Even though I have money to buy but I always like to grind. I'm cheap as hell haha

[still fog]

Crafting and a trade hub would do this nicely, as well as artifacts and things found out in the world by players. I don't think real currency would be a necessary factor for cosmetic trading.

[rose mulch]

This is what made me quit WoW the second time.

[balmy trout]

i dont think this game needs a season pass lmao

[brittle forge]

I doubt the game won't have one tbh

[patent adder]

Yeah for sure. I just think it's too difficult without having anything more then a minute and a half trailer and a Google doc of some questions. Monetization is just something people will forever argue about though. Especially when we have so few details about the game 😄 People are obviously free to discuss it though, that was just my take

[balmy trout]

at least from what the game seems to promise

[rose mulch]

A "season pass" is how we used to play MMOs. You just paid once a month.

[brittle forge]

ah crap

[torn salmon]

I'm kind of over free to play games, dont @ me i'd rather buy a game and have a far less aggressive dlc/shopfront monetization

like legit done with f2p bullshit

[brittle forge]

I said "season pass" but I meant battle passes or whatever you wanna call them

[pulsar tinsel]

A community game with only a monthly membership could be fantastic but honestly I'm just loving the sound of it either way... Besides there could be some cool cosmetics that come out from microtransactions which I can understand from a servicing side. As long as it isn't crazy to the point of a lot just for the sake

[brittle forge]

basically do dailies, quests etc. and earn rewards

[rose mulch]

Agreed.

[brittle forge]

and they change monthly

[sand barn]

I would agree. While it is good to speculate and discuss, I think gamers tend to only view monetization from their POV and how they ideally view it. Rather than taking into account the needs of a team of developers, which we don't fully know ofc

[balmy trout]

f2p can be fun lets be honest but, because its free they need to make stuff Thats actually cool behind a paywall

[still fog]

I agree. Regardless of their monetary stance, I just hope it's not purely F2P or P2W. Beyond that, they'll do what they feel is best for the longevity of the game.

[balmy trout]

yeah why would you p2w in fishing?

[still fog]

An initial cost will do a lot to combat farmers and toxic players, so I'm hoping they take that route.

[balmy trout]

true

[patent adder]

Yeah, like I said, that's just my take. I'm of course not trying to make people stop talking about it. Everyone is free to do what they want ☺️

[final grail]

I would just hope people would want to be trading ya kno cause it may be a smaller aspect since people may gather resources themselves. fr did a cosmetic shop where you guaranteed one thing in "card packs" so alot of people traded duplicates for what they didn't get. there were also clothing colors that became rare from being unable to get and idk I just want TRADING LMAO

[junior bison]

I for one will personally gladly throw money at this project. Doesn't matter if it's F2P or P2P. F2P i find it fair for moniziation, with P2P i think only cosmetics with no benefits are fair since you already paid. I think the best approach for them is part of the game being F2P and another part being membership based with cosmetics on top. Just my personal 2 cents

[rose mulch]

That's why you can play WoW for 15 dollars a month. It is a sub. I have seen "FTP" crap games that have $100 bundles. That is ridiculous.

[lone relic]

personally, I think the troubling thing about the monetization model they're leaning on this days is that everything is packaged and you have to go one way or another with this subscription model and it's almost like a religion really

[thorny dune]

I think some people will prefer to stick to some activities that they find they enjoy more (people sticking to fishing, others sticking to cultivating the land) and that's where trading will arise

[patent adder]

Yeah, if it's sub based and they offer a lifetime sub, I'd buy the heck out of that 😄

[lone relic]

which is kind of annoying.

[balmy trout]

that dont sound too bad

[still fog]

I'll be sad if there's no player trading 😅 But in a game with so many crafting and exploration aspects, I'm sure there will be

[rugged barn]

I wonder how they will prevent degenerate play and bots ?

[sand barn]

Oh, I know what you meant! I agree. I am also curious but I also have so little info, that I feel like i can't make much sense or discuss that well 😅

[brittle forge]

well, question is whether there is a need for bots or not

[junior bison]

just remember it would have to be worth while for them, so they might ask a hefty price for life time membership

[brittle forge]

when there's no need/use for bots, then people won't really use them either

[final grail]

oh yeah maybe if areas of expertise are big enough/ require skills you would NEED to trade. that would be nice. pls

[patent adder]

Yeah, I know. I'd expect it $400~

[rugged barn]

If there is a benefit in farming things then there will be bots.

[balmy trout]

honestly i cant keep up with combat based rpgs that well, furthest i got was level 50 something in blade and sould and rank 50-60 in genshin.

[final grail]

u bet ur bottom I am going to be a tailor/ fabric/ clothing trader or something pls I'll raise SHEEP

[junior bison]

that's a lie, people will always use bots. I personally don't think botting is needed for woodcutting in runescape, yet it is HEAVILY botted

[red jay]

So I'm under the assumption that Blizzard developers are involved with this project, though I'm not sure in what positions. But based on World Of Warcraft, I'm sure they'll have basic MMO features such as trading and such

[thorny dune]

I think it might just be a time consumption thing, I don't think you could feasibly be at the top of your field without dedicated all your time to the specialty

[patent adder]

At least that's what I've seen a couple other mmos with lifetime subs costs 😄

[junior bison]

yeah, doesn't sound out of line tbh.

[still fog]

An initial cost for the game as well as active moderators will be enough to combat this.

[brittle forge]

But there is a USE, that's the point

[sand barn]

This might be my ignorance.. but, there's games that offer lifetime subscription models? :o that's crazy! How have i never heard of this

[devout cave]

i personally don't care for season passes/battle passes unless they are relatively non-agonizing to go through, cos a lot of them are terrible to try to force you to purchase the paid pass. conceptually i dont mind them, because i like the idea of being rewarded for playing, but yeah. but i feel like the fact they foster fomo would probably not be great for the design goals of this game by how i understand them so far. SoT's first battle pass, idk how the following ones have fared, was pretty great to me cos i got through it only playing very casually w my friends on the weekends

currently i'm back to loving subscription-based, but i would definitely prefer something under 15 a month, cos that's the most frequent model for many services and it really adds up ;; _ ;; i aint made of money

[final grail]

yeah big as in you can't just get what u need easily and go onto a next field

[golden drift]

is fancypantsmcgee the creator of fancy pants?

[red jay]

Honestly, I would prefer a smaller subscription model over an in-game cash shop/premium currency

Cash shops can get extremely predatory fast

[thorny bear]

Man i hope the devs didn't create this Discord in order to learn what we want because we are all over the place in every single aspect lol

[balmy trout]

speaking of blizzard, Overwatch has been going downhill last 2-3 years

[thorny dune]

I'm sure they'll tweak things so we have a decent economy if that's what they're looking for so I'm not worried 🙂

[red jay]

Yeah but Overwatch is an FPS literally made by a developer of World Of Warcraft. I was inevitable lmao

[blazing crescent]

i don't know if this has been ask but does anyone knows what is the payment method of the game? is it gonna be a sub method or b2p

[brittle forge]

technically I think that a sub model is the best, but it will definitely kill the game for a lot of players and even if there's a sub, you can bet on it that they'll still likely sell cosmetics. That's just how games do it these days, even big ones like WoW or FF14.

[rugged barn]

Hmm not sure not worked in other games. If there are a lot of players people moderators would not work, you would need some kind of automatic AI tech to find botters, and also a good reportig systen to help train the AI.

[balmy trout]

it was meant to be a story with it!

[final grail]

trading. it's all I need. people trading and accepting trades. even if it's crops. or clothing. something I can collect aAh

[smoky raven]

I think overwatch is gaining momentum again

[meager cosmos]

Good morning

[half radish]

well, WoW at least is payable with ingame currency

[blazing crescent]

morning

[brittle forge]

morning o7

[red jay]

Trading is a basic feature of MMOs lol. Don't worry, you'll get it

[lunar coyote]

Nice day for fishing ain't it!

[balmy trout]

Thats the biggest reason i played the game, it was fun, and there was a whole lot of mystery of a narrative

[patent adder]

My boy 😄

[meager cosmos]

Heya

[blazing crescent]

hu ha!

[brisk ivy]

Some games actually lack trading. They're rather few, though.

[still fog]

Speaking of all these monetary concepts, what do you all think of in-game curency? Exclusively trading materials and crafting, or will there be some variant of "gold" or "coins" for players to trade and spend?

[junior bison]

If i remember correctly runescape for a short while had a life time subscription, at a hefty 350 euros. But they removed it quickly again as too many people were switching to it

[rose mulch]

Let's face it, a lot of us will be broke soon anyway, but I have hated microtransaction games sine the start. WoW gives you a gigantic area to play in, and I think I heard that some of the devs for this game were from Kefir, one of the most predatory crap game developers in the entirety of existence.

[patent adder]

Selling raw lobsters, 12 carrots ea.

[smoky raven]

in the long run lifetime subscriptions pay less

[rose mulch]

I still have hope, but I will also research

[red jay]

True, but apparently veterans from Blizzard are on this project, and trading is a basic feature of World of Warcraft

[still fog]

Keep in mind, the devs themselves make the game, they don't decide how financial models are presented and implimented.

[hushed oar]

For me I think 3 diff currencies max.

[thorny dune]

Even 3 is a bit much imo

[still fog]

10 carrots 😤

[junior bison]

Yeah, it's not a sustainable model for MMO's if they want to run for 15+ years

[patent adder]

You drive a hard bargain, but I'll take it. 😄

[final grail]

@red jay yeah most mmos have it but it's not the main part of the game's main sociability usually. or it is and then the mmos aesthetic sucks or is expensive 🥲

[half radish]

I like fixed currencies cause it makes stuff simpler, on the other hand, having a item-trade-system like Path of Exile is preeeety fun

[rose mulch]

OK, I mean the company then. Devs care a whole lot more than bean counters.

[brittle forge]

in the long run yeah. But most games usually require you to play for like 3-4 years + to benefit. And let's be real, most people don't play MMOs regularly for that long

[nova ember]

Currency do be pog tho

[brittle forge]

if you instead played only whenever there's new content, you'll save actual money in the long run

and won't be cucked if the game dies

[still fog]

Corporate suits and grand entities never were my cup of tea

[blazing crescent]

welp im off to bed, it's 03:25 am here haha, have a good day/night everyone o/

[brisk ivy]

I kind of wonder if a social leaning game could keep people with a sub fee.

[balmy trout]

thats what i planned to do with genshin

[brittle forge]

cya

[final grail]

why could we not trade on club penguin. bro I would have cried

[rugged barn]

I would not like in game currency, as its a farming game i would prefer a barter system goods exchange, where the community decied the worth of good to trade, it would also promote more social interaction and people can become known for particular types of materials.

[still fog]

Gnight :)

[lunar coyote]

yea and when I'm not sure how much I will have the time to actually play, subscription just isn't very appealing

[smoky raven]

yeah but most of the people able and willing to purchase a lifetime subscription are the people who do play mmos for years

[balmy trout]

havent played genshin on my main accountbin ages tho

[still fog]

I like this. Trading, not buying.

[brittle forge]

but what games even survive for years these days? And I mean survive with a decent playerbase. There's a reason there's only a handful of MMOs that aren't considered to be on lifesupport

[hushed oar]

With genshin I only play if there's a new event or content then finish it all and wait for new content.

[balmy trout]

because im waiting for the maps to be unlocked! and the new element power

[patent adder]

LOTR online, freerealms I think, startrek online. There's another new mmo that I wanted to support and offered it too

[half radish]

auction house yay or nay?

[red jay]

SWTOR still has a playerbase

[hushed oar]

1.6 is just around the corner

[brittle forge]

generally older sub-based games with a very much declining playerbase

[red jay]

OH yeah

[rose mulch]

Is it more appealing to pay for a season pass, then $10 for one bundle, and $25 for an outfit. All in one month?

[lunar coyote]

i'll be reluctant myself because I know I'll quit at some point

[brittle forge]

as in will they have it in the game?

[half radish]

more like "would you LIKE them to be in the game?"

[lunar coyote]

I'd pay $10 for the month and $25 for the first few months.

[brittle forge]

hmm, some sort of trading system would be good. But it depends on how much there is to actually trade and have an economy with

[lunar coyote]

after that $10 for sure, $25 if I still enjoy the game enough

[rugged barn]

AH i say no as it removes the need for people to talk to each other.

[still fog]

Trading post. Post an item, offers cam be made for said item, and the player chooses which option to take in exchange for their goods.

[balmy trout]

oh damn

[lunar coyote]

I mean right now even free games I'm still paying for monthly gems package... which is usually $15

[red jay]

If I remember correctly, Star Trek Online, Star Wars: The Old Republic, and Lord of the Rings Online all had lifetime subscription options at the beginning of their lifetimes, and if you look at all of them today, they're all F2P with pretty awful cash shops

[balmy trout]

i need to level up my genshin then if its going to the next map

[solid marsh]

Gooood morrrrningggg ❤️ ❤️

[hushed oar]

If you're around AR 40-45 you should be good

[smoky raven]

unfortunately thats why they're still alive

[bitter apex]

hi everyone

[balmy trout]

ill need to check

[solid marsh]

How is everyone doing today? ❤️

[brittle forge]

I hope this game will have a bunch of stuff to craft and gather so you can have an economy with it. Maybe even go as far as to have specialisations that will take a while and dedication to unlock specific recipes which products can then be sold. But we'll see. They did mention that they have some "unique approaches to how we want to handle the transfer of items between players"

[celest maple]

Good evening 🙂

[brittle forge]

evening

[solid marsh]

😄

[rose mulch]

Or you can play WoW for $15 a month, except when an expansion comes out (which you need to buy) like, maybe once a year. And there is more content in WoW than 30 or 50 microtransaction games put together.

Not that I play WoW any more.

[patent adder]

Good morning ☺️

[hushed oar]

Good afternoon!

[zinc plaza]

ive spent over $300 on wow ez

[brittle forge]

heyo o7 (nice BDO Bongo cat haha)

[rose mulch]

Just supporting the sub model

[red jay]

I hope this game is good tbh. I'm gonna need something to play when I'm not playing WoW Classic for like 13 hours a day lol

[hushed oar]

Good afternoon!

[sand barn]

@brittle forge @patent adder ahh, that's interesting though! I haven't played any mmo in some time, didn't know that type of sub model existed! Thank you for illuminating my lack of knowledge

[solid marsh]

Hi Guys ! ❤️ ❤️

[junior bison]

https://tenor.com/view/evening-good-evening-sliding-gif-15738591

[brittle forge]

hey o7

[solid marsh]

Honestly, I easily spent 300 bucks on ESO when I had a jobb, it's why I decided to not ever subscribe to anything ever again

[patent adder]

Yeah, it's not very common.

[solid marsh]

Like I love the game, I purchased all of the exapnsions too , but still

[sand barn]

How about a Netflix subscription?

[solid marsh]

I'd rather keep my money and buy food instead

[rugged barn]

I hope they have a lot of tools for in game social media. I want a situation where you need a specific thing there is none around but you hear through the grapevine that someone in another valley specialises in it, so you have to go on a journey to find the other player.

[solid marsh]

I don't use Netflix x'D

[junior bison]

small change, 15 years on runescape ruins your bank

[rose mulch]

Well, I know WoW has microtransactions now too, but that is one of the reasons I don't play it any more.

[hushed oar]

Anyone here playing biomutant currently?

[solid marsh]

My boyfriend actually gave me his because during Covid I cancelled mine due to being fired

[shut geode]

this would be so cool

[brisk ivy]

Think this game will have tools that break after getting damaged and need replacing?

[patent adder]

Truth. Although at the start of this year OSRS offered a year for 6.99 a month I think so I bought that😄

[solid marsh]

And he has a 6 people account, so I just decided to not renew it because it's way too much money spent.

[junior bison]

i could imagine higher tier gear being degradable to level out the games economy, while lower tier gear is not degradable

[hushed oar]

If we have blacksmiths then I guess it's a YES

[sand barn]

:( losing a job during covid is not nice, and super stressful. So I feel your pain.

Stay safe, and stay healthy

[smoky raven]

in the questions they said higher tier gear replaces your lower tier gear

so I assume they don't break

[brisk ivy]

I kind of hope that they go with a repair system instead of a break system. (If they do have durability.)

[brittle forge]

they didn't specifically approve nor deny it, but they said that you won't have the same tool in multiple grades in your inventory, as in the better tools replace the older ones, so I don't think durability will be a thing

[junior bison]

i know how OSRS players feel about RS3 but i'm personally a RS3 player

[solid marsh]

thank you! ❤️

It's fine, though I start a new job on the 21st and I kinda look forward to it

[meager cosmos]

i somehow keep trying to get back into it but meh

[solid marsh]

[brittle forge]

Runescape 3 was the "new" Runescape?

think I only ever played that one tbh

[still fog]

It's been a good few hours, but I'm off to bed. I'm gonna hate myself in the morning for staying up this late 😅
Gnight yall.

[meager cosmos]

lost job during covid too but got an even better paid one.. also during it, stuff always gets better again

[rugged barn]

It seems that the discord is so active ideas and feedback will just be lost, maybe they need a formal way for ideas feedback in the alpha test to collect ideas in a more structured way ?

[smoky raven]

rs3 is fine but it's not the same runescape I enjoyed

[patent adder]

Whatever floats your boat. Who am I to say what is better. I play osrs single player as IM. I just prefer os ☺️

[sand barn]

Conga rats! I got told I was gonna get laid off and then got told I was getting a contract. Confusing times 😅

[solid marsh]

I'm staying positive!

[still fog]

Remember, Chapaa not Chuu

[unique flume]

[meager cosmos]

[solid marsh]

My entire personality is about positivity cx Chuuuuuuuuuu

[rose mulch]

Certainly, that is why they are screening applicants.

[brittle forge]

they will have either a channel or a dedicated discord for feedback. I've been in multiple CBT/CATs before and they always do it that way

[meager cosmos]

cant relate

[boreal bear]

Hello everyone 🙂

[brisk ivy]

They could probably search key terms on discord if they want to find some suggestions on a certain subject, but it could be a problem with the number of people, yes.

[meager cosmos]

Heya!

[patent adder]

That's a good personality to have. We'd be friends! 😄

[solid marsh]

Aw, hugs for you!

[junior bison]

Runescape 3 is techinally the original Runescape that evolved over time. OSRS is an older version of RS that got released some years ago to please the players unhappy with the evolution of combat update

[boreal bear]

just checked the trailer on IGN channel and landed here

[brittle forge]

oh, interesting

[patent adder]

Hullo friend 😄

[boreal bear]

game looks stunning

[solid marsh]

Yessss be neighbour so I can knock on your door and ask for carrots so I can adopt a bunny. <u<

[meager cosmos]

welcome, glad you're here now :D

[boreal bear]

looks beautiful like Genshin Impact

[patent adder]

Awwh, alright. Deal! ☺️

[solid marsh]

yes it doesssssss!!!!

[meager cosmos]

dont steal milky, he shall be my neighbour

[solid marsh]

omigosh yes

[zinc plaza]

but yeh in wow i spent $45 on store items, $30 was a donation and the other was a pet, and i still spent nearly $300 on the game just playing through expansions

[solid marsh]

you can be our neighbour tooooooo

[boreal bear]

i love to play anime open world games

[zinc plaza]

so no matter what palia does, it wont be that expensive

[solid marsh]

I can and will eat all of your cookies

[meager cosmos]

[boreal bear]

looks pretty and breath-taking always

[rose mulch]

Those expansions were over many years.

[boreal bear]

[solid marsh]

I'm sooo looking forward to fishing and cooking

[patent adder]

Why does everyone want me🥺

[zinc plaza]

still

[thorny dune]

😉

[meager cosmos]

Same for me with cooking

[balmy trout]

have to leave for college in an hour 😩

[undone tartan]

I'm looking forwards to hunting and cooking, myself.

[solid marsh]

because you cute and you nice and you deserve headpats

[boreal bear]

i hope they give us the chance to open a wine shop and a restuarant

[meager cosmos]

😗

[zinc plaza]

it was 6 to 8 years for me

[rose mulch]

Again, I am not supporting WoW. I quit ages ago.

[solid marsh]

omg that sounds so much fun

[thorny dune]

⛔

[rose mulch]

I just like the sub model

[boreal bear]

i want my own wine and food restaurant

[solid marsh]

more like a tavern

[balmy trout]

i wanna open a Café

[meager cosmos]

i cant believe you

[junior bison]

making myself a delicious rague out of the cutest animal in the game. Just to watch the world burn

[patent adder]

😰

[thorny dune]

I hope we can bake things

[zinc plaza]

imagine if you can open a cafe!!, omg

[boreal bear]

cookies are LOVE

[thorny dune]

😘

[solid marsh]

I wanna make friends with everyone and be in an open relationship with all the NPCs

[rose mulch]

Don't want to play any more? Just don't pay the next month's sub/.

[zinc plaza]

like you sell coffee to people, that be so fun

[solid marsh]

xD

[undone tartan]

I would love to have an ingame bakery.

[boreal bear]

make cookies less pricey, or give me discounts

[meager cosmos]

ehhh

[patent adder]

Awh thanks 😄

[brittle forge]

reminds me of that bunny clip and the arrow lol

[smoky raven]

sounds a bit out of scope

[zinc plaza]

i love wow, its just expensive

[boreal bear]

if game doesn't give us much money

[rose mulch]

Microtransaction games are evil. Period.

[boreal bear]

in-game

[junior bison]

weekly "open relationship party" with all the NPC's

[boreal bear]

🤣

[solid marsh]

omg no

[junior bison]

exactly xD

[balmy trout]

😳

[solid marsh]

🥺

[balmy trout]

spicy

[solid marsh]

OMG GUYS I GOT SAD

[meager cosmos]

👮

[boreal bear]

that's.... not needed

hangout with npc's, helping them out should be fun

[solid marsh]

MY BOYFRIEND SENT ME A BUNNY VIDEO AND I WAS LIKE "AW LOOK AT THE BUNNY" and then A HAWK CAME AND TOOK THE BUNNY AND YOU CAN HEAR IT'S LITTLE SCREAMS

[balmy trout]

yeah its called hunie pop

[rose mulch]

Don't be sad. We are here for talking, cuddling, whatevs.

[solid marsh]

🥺 🥺

[mystic vale]

xDDDDDD

[boreal bear]

building friendships with NPC's should give us good rewards

[twilit hazel]

[junior bison]

seen that video, laughed my butt off

[solid marsh]

I'm literally crying

[boreal bear]

that we can use in many ways

[solid marsh]

omg

[thorny dune]

the friendship is the reward

[half radish]

reminds me of that one meme with the bunny killed and the "this is the cutest thing i've ever seen" LUL

[zinc plaza]

i will be in heaven if i can have a little home, with like a bunny/squirrel pet

[meager cosmos]

that video is older than time itseeelf

[rose mulch]

Awww, hon, it's just how nature works....

[balmy trout]

you get written in the wills of the npcs where they give you their house 🧐 jkjk

[thorny dune]

like u

[solid marsh]

I Did not know x'D

[meager cosmos]

😢

[junior bison]

after befriending the village, fragtured was about to commit a big crime

[solid marsh]

I was like "omg look at the bunny, it's so cute!!" a second later "BUNNY NOOOO"

;-;

[balmy trout]

damn we're just talking about Minecraft again

[umbral ferry]

Thats why you should watch videos of cute foxes instead

[solid marsh]

I love foxes

[umbral ferry]

Foxes are best

[solid marsh]

Honestly they're such a lovely animal

I have a friend who sent me a video of the fox island in Japan

[brittle forge]

Foxes are amazing, yeah

[zinc plaza]

fennec fox

[solid marsh]

and I wanna go so badddddd

[balmy trout]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-bite-attack-snow-gif-14065812

[rose mulch]

Foxes are the best. They're like dogcats.

[brittle forge]

that's one of the greatest places on earth

[patent adder]

Everyone hide, Anjin is here to burn the villages 🥺

[junior bison]

you like foxes... may i introduce you to "the red panda"

[umbral ferry]

YouTube keeps recommending me videos from some russian fox channel 😂

[zinc plaza]

https://giphy.com/gifs/fox-kissing-MqXsQosHdmG6A

[solid marsh]

omggg

[junior bison]

https://tenor.com/view/red-panda-truly-cute-panda-nose-gif-19529738

[solid marsh]

I love red pandas!!

[celest maple]

Ackkk....cuteness overload

[umbral ferry]

https://tenor.com/LJfm.gif

[balmy trout]

its okay its only the evil village inc.

[solid marsh]

aw chonky baby

[half radish]

Sloths > all

[solid marsh]

I love them so muuuuuch

[zinc plaza]

https://giphy.com/gifs/sandiegozoo-funny-happy-3oxHQtr97dbCZnIN3i

[solid marsh]

I am an animal lover, I just can't

I love snakes and lizards too!!

[meager cosmos]

[zinc plaza]

fennec fox ❤️

[balmy trout]

https://c.tenor.com/4M_drLvIxWcAAAAM/snake-gentleman.gif

[solid marsh]

I once adopted a moth that I found in my livingroom and I called him Gilbert

[undone tartan]

Reptiles, rodents, foxes, dogs, cats, whatever, so long as it's cute then it's cute.

[zinc plaza]

i had a snail outside my door called jermery

[rose mulch]

Ok, if we're just gonna post gifs, I'm out.

[zinc plaza]

i would feed him and the others lettuce

[meager cosmos]

hi out

[balmy trout]

i want a snek

[solid marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/moth-insect-bug-gif-18628898

[celest maple]

XD nothing wrong with gifs

[brittle forge]

alright, time for uni. Have a good one guys

[solid marsh]

LOOK AT CUTE

[meager cosmos]

we do be #💬│off-topic-chat

[balmy trout]

chonky moth

[zinc plaza]

https://giphy.com/gifs/baby-thirsty-pangolin-5BSE9ccqIevuM

[pseudo nimbus]

I think there also exist a pink/white moth

[zinc plaza]

pangolin ❤️

[junior bison]

SO anyone wonder how large the palia world is actually gonna be?

[celest maple]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-cute-gif-11008488

[meager cosmos]

i hope huge, like huge huge

[boreal bear]

guess the game size

[balmy trout]

but not too huge

like maybe huge-ish

[boreal bear]

😂

[meager cosmos]

[half radish]

cant wait for the first big wave of news and information </3

[boreal bear]

if it has map expansions like genshin impact, will be really big then

[balmy trout]

huge enough to not remember any of the map but enough to enjoy exploring

[meager cosmos]

i think that will be the case

[spark thunder]

dont forget platypus

[celest maple]

🙂 I'm excited for it tbh... a more relaxing/exploring mmo vs the rush and grind some others feel like sometimes

[undone tartan]

Platypi? Platypuses? Platypeople?

[balmy trout]

https://c.tenor.com/u0cQup-HVAsAAAAM/perry-the-platypus-hat.gif

[boreal bear]

they have said its a MMORPG

so expect alot of exploring and missions at the release time

[solid marsh]

I wonder if resources will be instanced, or per player

Like, mining or cutting trees

[balmy trout]

i wanna open a Café in his game

this*

[boreal bear]

will be per player probably

[solid marsh]

I mean they didn't seem to really want a competitive or limit environment so probably

[boreal bear]

otherwise co-op exploration won't be good

[solid marsh]

yeah , I see

[half radish]

cant stop to think of this game as a "fantasy life"-MMO, hope I dont fixate too much on that thought and in the end, its something totally different :D

[solid marsh]

I also wonder what inventory management would look like

[spark thunder]

im ok with no pvp but i hope there is some type of pve

[balmy trout]

Npc simulator

[solid marsh]

I kinda want a big expanded crafting system

[vast oyster]

Wait can someone explain what is this game about? And i'm excited already!!

[balmy trout]

the adventurers are the npcs now and you are the one giving them quests

[solid marsh]

It's a community SIM MMO , basically, it's less about combat and more about community

You can craft, fish, and hunt

[boreal bear]

main questions : how many platforms will be getting this game

[sand barn]

They mentioned having a unique solution to this, if I'm not mistaken. I'm also curious!

[solid marsh]

You have a customizable house, etc.

[boreal bear]

any idea ?

[spark thunder]

basically, animal crossing mmo

[solid marsh]

Yup

[meager sphinx]

Has there been any information of the date for the pre alpha? I haven't had the time to stay updated

[spring wasp]

PC for now other platforms later on

[solid marsh]

Not that we know of

[meager sphinx]

Oh okay, thanks ^^

[half radish]

we all thirst for information :D

[boreal bear]

they said, we will be informed if selected for pre-alpha tests

[coarse wadi]

Oh, forgot to say, hope everyone will have a good morning/day/afternoon/evening or night!

[boreal bear]

in few weeks

[solid marsh]

you toooo!

[boreal bear]

so keep checking your emails everyday

[celest maple]

Hey!

[zinc plaza]

for me, number one on my list is how big is the world and am i able to just walk around anywhere

[hidden scroll]

Howdy

[meager sphinx]

Will do! I just hope I have the time to participate : ' ) haha

[dawn sigil]

Anyone knows if there’s going to be any sort of dungeons?

[coarse wadi]

Thank you!

[half radish]

cant wait to see where/how you can select/buy your houses, do the landscapes have themes? and all that stuff

[spring wasp]

In the new announcement they made they said pre alpha will be very soon, and they're also doing a Q&A on Thursday so you can expect any day after Thursday for pre-alpha to release. With that being said they also said it could be weeks or months but no longer than years.

[pseudo nimbus]

I hope it won't be FFXIV style because that will be a hell

[patent adder]

Hello ☺️

[celest maple]

I just saw Palia as my Google news and now I'm here.

[balmy trout]

welcome

[patent adder]

That's awesome. I hope you have a good time and find the community nice 😄

[hidden scroll]

Which is a very niche MMO sub-genre. I think Second Life and Roblox are the other games I can think of that fulfill that niche

[celest maple]

Do you guys know if there any game footage out? Specially the character customisation?