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I had a Huawei P10 Lite for years until I dropped it in water and the screen started bugging out and ended up switching for a Samsung A32, but the Huawei screen somehow reverted back to normal š I loved that phone
plenty of phones more powerful then switch nowadays... but u right would need optimising and im not sure how many new players it would bring .. so prob not worth it š
me trying to figure out who this 'Cas' is Diskette is talking to. i guess it's been a long week XD
Is there a thread somewhere here to chat about trades? I have a bunch of extra stickers, but typi g out all the names on Switch is an absolute Arseache
!trading
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mild villager quest spoiler ||HE ATE THE EGG?!?!?||
Late to the canvo but I have flip phone lol, I wanna Palia on that š¤
the mere thought of it on a flip phone has me laughing XD
Palia for my Sidekick phone when /j
It would run so well trust
If we can run Doom on a calculator I don't see why not
hahahahaha. what a comment to wake up to hahaha xD ā¤ļø
Did anyone see the āEtsy voteā plot under trending on home tours? It has like 500+ votes for each reaction and itās literally just the starter plot untouched?
i havenāt seen it but a lot of ppl throw their plot into https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1268344221203431434 trying to get specifc reactions so it might be something like that 
One feature that would be really useful is to deconstruct furniture we dont need
They won't ever do that, because then you could just buy furniture from Tish and use it to farm resources. They should just let us sell or trade/request furniture. We can sell everything else we make already.
Also, I hope everyone is doing well. I'm in exam mode so I haven't been online much 
Well giving it it away would be better
good luck on exams 
Even if i would want to play, i cant. Skill medal limit reached (and nothing useful to buy anymore), Gold limit reached (and nothing useful to buy anymore), Storage limit reached (so no further resources possible)
Hopefully with the EW update we get new stuff to sink resources into but it would be nice if we just had more stuff in the guild stores 
They really aught to give us something to do with these besides just making bug lures.
they go so much potential things they could do but they just didnt i hope they change this after ew drops. But you can sell them and buy those Goldblocks from Kenyatta
It'd be neat if we could actually craft them with gold bars though.
Unrelated but I feel like one/multiple of the fathers of people on the dialogue and script teams are feeling very represented. These puns are intended with NO shame
yeah and when they reduce the cost of somethings and if they would put more things in Zekis Lucky Capsule like the other foxes and some past twitch drops
honestly ive seen better puns in toontown despite how dry some of them are š
they aren't crafted with gold bars?
Nah those are 750 gold coins for each piece.
Late to reply but like Nostalgia said, the golden building blocks aren't craftable. Only available for purchase at the City Hall.
between these and Zeki coins, there is nothing else to urgently spend gold, when you reach the limit...
so yes, it would be totally nice to have new stuff to buy or to get from Zeki. I actually loved it when Maji market stuff was also available with gold.
We have the Yardwork set in Kenli's office, rooms/buildings etc. for sale in City Hall and can purchase more homeplots, but I'd prefer more things added in Zeki's Machine too cuz that's where I tend to sink my extra money as well, cuz I have plenty of those other things already.
imagine....
||wheatley my beloved||
(||disk my beloved||)
the game does seem to be leaning into the decorating aspect more than anything else, and theyve openly stated theyāre moving away from the mmo category (at least for now.) so in that way, it makes sense that the only stuff there really is to spend gold on when youāre capped is decor-related. (i mean this outside of the other means of obtaining cosmetics conversation, but also donāt want to derail it.)
it does end up excluding the folks who like the game for non decorating reasons tho.
(i say this as a non decorator)
Are you kidding me
That fishing glitch you get where it cancels halfway through and the tool dial shows all these glitchy numbers
Tell me why that had to happen while reeling in the only Flametongue I've ever found
Maji market game idea what if we have potato sack runs? you know time your taps to see who gets to the finish line faster?
2 days till the 1 year anniversary of this bug still not being fixed. 
Yeah thats one of the thing why ppl are leaving palia cause they dont feel heard after they complain for bugs and want and answer. I hope most know and anoying bugs are getting fixed with ew. Cause if they dont fix it i dont see a bright future for the game. Cause i dont like the way they always gave us small content update with more bugs then fixes to them.
agree.. i would like to see more mmo elements .. maybe do more with skill levels .. maybe give small pasive skills purchaseable with the guild tokens for example .. give the grinders just a tiny bit of Grindy MMO stuff š hehe
no issues with it for me https://i.gyazo.com/00af83e24dca1b1696f5b907f7cf95d8.png
It's still an issue for some folks. Potentially from folks who have had the accomplishment in-game done, before it released onto steam w/ the achievement associated with it.
yes!
make it like the chopping board for cooking?
With the new Update we will get artetfacts that increase our stats and maybe potions cause we got buff food but only for fishing, but yeah I wish they would do more things with the gild coins
oh yes .. im looking forward to see how that mechanic gonna be š but yea it would just be nice to have some sense op progress other then a number going up nearly indefinently xD
And then this number doesnt give you any reward when its high. Wish they would give us some level progression like with higher level we get better lot from things we do. Like with gardening with lvl 25 you only harvest star fruits but you still can get none star seed from the machine and idk why this is the way. Even the marmalde glas stops when you are at 30/30/1 even if you can only get Star Jam from Star Fruits. There are so many little things they need to adjust and we are telling them since the beginning but yeah i hope with ew and after that we get a lot of QoL Patches with a lot of Bug fixes.
yea even tiny passive buffs from higher skill levels would be cool ... like 1% faster mining per 10 levels XD dosent have to be something u absolutly HAVE to have .. just tiny stuff that still make high level feel rewarding xD
yea just gotta wait for their wallets to be positive and they can invest more ^^ i dont doubt their intention is to fix it all .. as soon as they can ... ^^
Yeah but i hope they use it this time better cause as the game started it was good they had a lot of good ideas and talked to us we often got log in boni and ingame events like apalooza but they could make this more often like every time they gave us a new plushie make an apalooza and give them us save even one would be enough. But then the revenue wasnt that good they fired a lot of ppl who was in lead of those things and now its kinda yeah we do 0 to nothing and dont talk anymore with you. I hope Sony recognizes the potential of the game and give them some money.
OOH or if they wanted to make it a bit more tricky, make it a Three-Legged Race so you have to team up with someone and both of you time it right
What is the best way/ easiest way to make money early game?
insects and hunting and later mining
It's always annoyed me that the machine is considered full with 61 jams. Like that third slot is so useless it should just be eliminated altogether.
Alright. Thatās what Iāve been doing for money
It stops cause its programmed the same way the seed maker can give you non star seeds even if you put star fruits in but with the jam it should be different. I can talk over 1000h of this spahgetti code and write an essey about the needed qol and bug fixes but i am tiered of this. I even wrote them a 20 Page long qol and bug list for 3 monthes and i got no answer and little to no things was done.
i have a list i sent them every day ^^so far on day 11 xD
They havent listen to feedback in a very long time 
i've seen a couple people mention how they think nai'o is gonna have some new storlylines for EW but idk why.. can someone explain
If you havent seen the 30 min teaser trailer then youll know more when ew comes!
additionally to what Panda mentioned, S6 also mentioned it in the elderwood news post
30?!?! WHAT HAVE I MISSED... finals is kicking my a** ive missed out on so much omg
video is linked in the bot response
its not actually 30 full mins, more like 15 minutes (but showcasing the game in general for new players)
!Elderwoods
The Elderwood Expansion opens the door to a mysterious new Adventure Zone on May 13th.
Palia will also be launching on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S.
Read more about it here.
Elderwood - 30 minutes of gameplay (Video contains spoilers!)
ty!!
they basically show the whole map so If u want to experience it for urself maybe don't watch it 
i gave it a glance but im holding off until the release date <3 what day does the 13th fall?
just like every other regular update on tuesday 
but we don't know how long the maintenance will be (if they decide to have an extra long one it could end up extremely late for EU/APAC or even wednesday)
im excited nonetheless hehe
im probs gonna stay away form the severe for a bit when it drops bc it will drop during finals week
so i wont have time to play it right away
yes iād probably say that if you want to avoid spoilers/focus on your finals (good luck with them)

Hi friends, does anyone know any good home tour discords ?
https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1268344221203431434 if you want reactions
https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1267963034110922904
https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1162052326769565776
https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1142204717489983528
if you wanna see cool stuff
Oh yeah i meant like other discords I could join xD haha
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i think weāre not supposed to link to other discords here?
Ohhh no worries. Even names help if that's allowed lol
Oh my god so many memories unlocked
ty!! <3
Bets on Subira getting out of jail?
it was confirmed was it not?
Was it?
yup 
Oooooo
they developed a system to allow instanced villagers based on progression she will have schedule in elderwood and in the older maps as well + other villagers get updated schedules as well
subira free:
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subira not only in elderwood:
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other villagers updated schedule
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Thanks Tiny.
You're a veritable encyclopedia
Oh wow. I couldn't be less interested in any of those wishlist rewards.
Y'all ever think about rewards for people who don't care about plushies?
Where are the wallpapers, flooring?
don't worry! they are also giving out stickers and common materials 
hey guys, if anyone could let me know if others who have a gaming laptop have similar issues with overheating only on palia, what do you guys do to* reduce it or fix.
my friend is unfortunately having some sort of issue running palia alone with high temperatures
It's Monday, so maybe I'm just grumpy.
I don't mean to sound entitled, but I feel like my feelings are valid on this. When was the last time we got rewards that weren't plushies?
stickers 2 patches ago 
last time were the palcat glasses around steam release last year
Hi, I blame Palia for causing overheating in my laptop /j. The best advice I can give is using a laptop cooler, opening the game through Nvidia App/GFN and try not to have settings higher than medium on. In my case, I had to get a thermal paste replacement too since it had been years since I had done any maintenance on my laptop. So those things helped a bit.
Unfortunately the game isn't very well optimised and it's kinda hard on laptops.
Glasses were cool.
Free Grow All Out seeds would be AMAZING
stickers and twitch drops from what i remember
We got stickers two patches ago but can we have something else than stickers or plushies
I have completely blocked memory of stickers from my brain.
The only thing I care less about than plushies, is the stickers.
They could simply just re release the previous twitch drops, if they don't want to make different drops.
hmm, so my friend has a cooling pad, i suggested they should play on low graphics with medium shadows for now.
so opening game thru nvidia app helps?
no one asked for them and yet they were described as a "highly requested item" during an interview lmao. more evidence of mgmt being out of touch with the player base
unreleased?
It does for me, at least. I know many people also play the game through GeForceNow (though it has a subscription and a free version) but I can't speak on how well it reduces overheating. But a good cooling pad and having the game on lower settings helps. Foliage is also one of the things I turn to a minimum.
hey folks it's been a minute since i played, will the xb and ps5 release take it out of beta? i ask because the version numbers for patches are still not 1.x. sorry if this is the wrong place to ask
I'm no expert, obviously, but I distinctly recall a previous art director (before she was let go) saying that making new wallpapers in this game were quite simple.
So I don't understand why we've had this long drought of new wallpaper content.
Flooring is apparently more difficult because it needs to be rendered in 3D
lmao i didnt even notice the palcats. i only saw the flutterfoxes
Give me an actual red brick wall wallpaper. Please!
hmm okay
the only thing i told them to keep on medium was shadows. and thank you for the response!!
No problem! Hope it helps!
so only two new things and those are plushies again 
plushies are just boring game content to me. i just...look at them? in my plot that no one else will see unless i intentionally ask someone to come look at it.
while I absolutely agree with it
I'd rather have new wallpapers not tied to timelimited campaigns but available all the time
and we will probably get more with Elderwood or they will dripfeed new ones a few patch after elderwood releases
Having reruns is great. Weird to have it specifically for only wishlist rewards, (mainly cuz i just.. am not a huge fan of login ones like this bc fomo), but... I'm still glad people are having a chance to get these plushes again. (along with the 2 unreleased palcat plushes.)
anyways elderwoods is around the corner so i guess this is just for ppl who never got the chance to obtain some of these items
Still glad theyre making a 'return' of sorts tho. Hopefully this ends up being the case in general for future ones.
āEveryone who logs into Palia during the rewards delivery period will receive rewards!ā i was so worried it was going to be just ps/xbox that iād have to make a ps account
phew
Oh yes, I'm very glad about that lol. Since i recall there being a switch exclusive or two, right?
So, again, glad that isn't the case
iirc, i have those 2 rugs in my house
the rugs were twitch drops! yeah the frogberts only if that many saves 
Rereleasing sought after twitch drops this way is interesting
the rectangle rugs arenāt new but a lot of ppl didnāt get them last time as twitch drop due to bug
This amuses me though::
""Sandi the Palcat Plus
Palcat Plushie 4
Palcat Plushie 2
Nox the Palcat Plush""
- Sandi the palcat Plus
- the 2 unreleased palcat plushes have no names?
.. 
gonna tell my sis/bro to wishlist asap since they have accounts 
lol speaking of which they gave me two rugs instead of my sandi and some nice people gave me a sandi for trade
Yeah, it makes me hope that they'll do rotations and re-release/do reruns in general. Or add them to the Zeki machine
I think that's what some ppl called them but i honestly dont remember/fully know
yeah the 2 other ones never had a name 
Wait some of the pal cats are new? Or are they just naming them by numbers instead of by season/theme this time?
ima name the white one snowy (but iāll probably use my old cats name tbh
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The twitch drop for the sandy rug was borked so yeah. A lot of people missed out
island and snowy palcat if im not wrong same name as the pets
two of them were unreleased
sorry but am I the only one who finds this list of rewards to be reaaaally lackluster, especially considering the wishlist milestones
the white and the aqua looking one
poor little buddies
nah i seen some ppl say they didnāt like em as much
I guess the white one will be snowy palcat
iām excited for them 
sandy and nocturnal were named sandi and nox so the island one could have a different name
Previously Unobtainable items, returning limited time items, vital materials, items you can only get a limited number of in game, epic rarity rng drops, silly/fun items - seems a good mix to me
There's only a handful that seem like meaningful rewards tho, the rest is literally "here's a plushie and a sticker!! it's super rare!!"
It's for new, returning, and maxed out players who only have decorating to do so yeah
idk just not really feeling incentivized to encourage wishlists with this lineup, nevermind the past issues Palia has had
Iād rather get meaningful stuff in actual confirmed content than meaningful rewards that we might miss out on anyways lol.
ya im sure thats very true, a lot of new players canāt obtain some of the things and the drops from twitch/ login
Thatās fair.
I missed out on a lot of stuff too (only been playing a month) so I can see why people feel that way.
mhm and some of them as mentioned were twitch drops but got bugged so a lot didnāt get them
yea i think a lot of ppl r just being sourpuss xD
I'm not shooting down people who are fine with them, and I'm fine with players getting an opportunity to get missed things, but Palia's had a long-running issue of giving very weak rewards for big events
Plushia continues
My headcanon names are snowy for the white and Misty for the aqua
its not weak, they are repetitive, its almost always some plushie or pod or sticker.
Also idc for the plushies either but there was a lot of fomo so I'm glad they're coming back around
I think people are just saddened that the rewards are still plushes, and were hoping for something else or more. Which I think is fair and valid.
The fact that they're coming back, at least, since... again, fomo, is a good thing, tho
And at least I don't have to run Twitch for 10 hours in the background to get em
yep. especially playing from 2023 and the whole of 2024 rewards were mostly plushies & pods.
I just always hoped the "returned" items would be an obtainable way in-game, is all. Not tied to login rewards still.
But like i said earlier, as long as they do rotations/re-runs, it's fine or whatever at least
again I'm not down on returning items, I always encourage it in games
It def feels lackluster in some ways, though, i think. Especially for, again, folks who don't care for decorating and the like. But... admittedly, I usually find wishlist rewards in (most) games to be lackluster so im kinda
about it.
misty just threw me to pokemon
i love it
anyways these are also limited once again. not everyone who will play after the claim period will get it either.
Let me know which ones I got wrong
10x Mixed Hydrangea Flower-can only get 3 in game
40x Sapwood Planks-vital material for new & returning players
20x Stone Bricks-vital material for new & returning players
10x Iron Bars-vital material for new & returning players
20x Heartwood Planks-vital material for new & returning players
Sernuk Sticker, Drooling Mujin Sticker-discord
3x Potato Pod Prize Bag-rng items behind a mini game + currency
3x Series 1 Sticker Pack-fun, rng item
3x Sandbox Bouncy Shroom-fun, behind special currency in game
First Rainy Day Jukebox-fun, behind special currency in game
Grooving Butterball Sticker, Waiting Hekla Sticker, Partyup Kenyatta Sticker-discord
Big Frogbert Plush (unreleased to date)-New
Tears of Joy Reth Sticker, Sad Cute Tau Sticker, Proud Ashura Sticker-discord
Giant Frogbert Plush (unreleased to date)-New
Meow Tamala Sticker, Trade Offer Zeki Sticker, Yay Tish Sticker-discord
Sandi the Palcat Plus-returning twitch drop
Palcat Plushie 4-New
Palcat Plushie 2-New
Nox the Palcat Plush-returning twitch drop
Rage Against the Arcade Machine-rare in game purchase
What in Tarnation Hodari Sticker, Omg Love it Zeki Sticker, My Word Eshe Sticker-discord
Sandy Palcat Pattern Rug-returning twitch drop
Palcat Party Small Rug-returning twitch drop
Palcat Party Large Rug-returning twitch drop
Sandy Palcat Pal Mat-returning twitch drop
Howdy Hodari Sticker, Smart Thinking Caleri Sticker, So Lame Kenyatta Sticker-discord
Spring Flutterfox Plush-returning twitch/reward item
Fall Flutterfox Plush-returning twitch/reward item
Leafy Flutterfox Plush-returning twitch/reward item
Winter Flutterfox Plush-returning twitch/reward item
Summer Flutterfox Plush-returning twitch/reward item
Rainbow Butterfly Plush-Epic rng item
Take Photo Tish Sticker, Mine Hodari Sticker, Lets do This Sifu Sticker, Serving Face Jel Sticker, Heart Eyes Jina Sticker-discord
the stickers are for the discord though, want to point that out
Spring and winter are Zeki ball prizes too. Fall leafy and summer were exclusives, so that's nice they'll be back.
wait so will everyone be able to get these rewards or only those who wishlists?
everyone that logs in during that period
if you login in the time period
ah
It's the same as frogbert
Lacie apparently pushed for it since a lot of folks were wanting it. So I can at least understand it.
you know what would also be a good reward goal giveing players premium currency that will make people wishlist REAL FAST

honestly a bit disappointed to see a lack of palcat glasses in the list, considering how many other past twitch drops are being re-released for this event, but at least the rewards still look really nice for the people who do enjoy plushes
I donāt get how people are complaining about bonus rewards when itās literally celebrating a new map??
Complaining is a strong word.
oh nonono im happy about the rewards
I'm happy for the people who missed em. But I myself don't care for plushies
I don't think people are complaining, but rather just feeling like they're a bit lackluster. Or was still hoping for something that wasn't plushes, because that's usually the constant. Which I think is valid.
I think people are still very happy they are returning (along with 2 unreleased plushes) for those who like them, want them, or missed them.
i just wish they add away for people who cant pay money to get the premium currency even if its in small amounts or events like this.
People are allowed to voice their opinions regardless. Criticism and feedback are needed for games to improve and flourish.
It also would of been nice, like Tarina mentioned, if they did add the palcat glasses, cuz that'd be a returning fomo cosmetic
when do you have to log in to get the rewards?
Sometime after release of EW
"Rewards Distribution Period: Rewards will begin delivering at 1:00 p.m. PT on Tuesday, May 13 (some reward tiers will distribute on a rolling basis for the sake of your inventory). Reward delivery will end at 11:59 p.m. PT on Monday, June 2."
without the context/idea of magnitude they're giving out - all suggestions make sense
with the context of the rest of the list - this one seems like an obvious oversight, even though no other cosmetics are in the list (i think) the rest of the twitch exclusives are
(Wanted to make sure I got the Timezone for the time there)
ty, the wall of text is hard for me to grok
And adding to what Theo said earlier on, I think some peoeple would like to see rewards that aren't limited to just plushies/stickers, since there's also players who don't care for those. Like, wallpapers.
I understand! It's why I bolded the important bits too, in case it helped 
does anyonehave a pic of those? i havent seen em
from the wiki
It very well could of been an oversight, yeah. It's just a shame is all
I'm a certified complainer /joking of course
or well, i am, but about not having the duck recipes š
You know the drill Ciri... 
I'm one of those players who couldn't really give a flying fox about plushies in a game where I farm and fish and mine and craft - I just would like to see some more balanced rewards that cater to my play style, rather than going almost all-in on players who like collecting plushies and discord stickers. Doesn't mean I don't want them to have something, doesn't mean I hate returning rewards, I just want something to cater to more different playstyles seen across the playerbase.
Wishlist Plush Drive period in local time: <t:1745859600:F> to <t:1747033140:F>
Delivery/Login period in local time: <t:1747166400:F> to <t:1748933940:F>
Iāve already downloaded Palia on PC and Nintendo Switch ā do I still get the rewards?
Everyone who logs into Palia during the rewards delivery period will receive rewards!
even colors to go with the new palcats (if they do that as twitch rewards tho thatās understandable that their not included with palcats this time)
might have been the explicit or implicit "there's nothing of value on this list" that was read as complaints rather than as constructive
imagine the ducks having a cute tea party in the growable gazeebo
A big difference between exclusive plushies/stickers and exclusive cosmetics/wallpapers are one can be traded in-game. If new players miss out, they can still get it. Getting a wallpapers or items that future players would completely miss doesnāt make as much sense.
Tbf there's people who consider any form of criticism or discussion as complaining, happens every so often here someone will jump in to say we're all complaining.
Yeah, it's not a problem with the twitch rewards themselves, necessarily, but simply a problem with how much of the game's rewards/incentives as a whole are centered not only on "home decor" but a very specific subset of home decor, aka 'collectables' (plushes and palian funko pops)
ducks also need to be tintable if we get the recipe 
I want ducks in all colors
(well if they decide to give us the other tints finally lol)
Yeah, and I'm glad about them returning them. Again, for me, I just wish there was some way to obtain them in-game instead, that's all.
I'm just glad they are doing some sort of re-run for them, even if it's tied to wishlist rewards. (It does in a sense make sense tho imo, esp with like frogbert since that was like.. a wishlist reward too)
big agree. i want to make a plot that's like "i spy" but for the ducks!!!
I'm also still wanting my frog bucket i missed out on 
true, though i totally get them wanting to increase the stock of the limited ones in circulation given the likely increase in players to keep them uncommon but not impossible to obtain
Still forever sad that I didn't realize the frog bucket login reward was FOMO. thought it'd always be there so i just kept having my hiatus 
It's probably the 1 thing I'll always regret. The frog bucket by Einar has given me so much joy. I would always get distracted walking by. I'd hang with a friend, we'd run somewhere, and he'd lose me and just go "...Frog bucket again?" 
whispers: or tintable
same i get why it was red, but i'd prefer green
There is going to be so much new content dropping in 15 days. So while there's not a TON of brand new rewards (although there is several new rewards!) for the Wishlist, we wanted to try and give a rounded level of gifts to encourage, and also not mess too much with the economy.
Yup! I try to do what I can within my power to make y'all happy. There are things that I can only suggest but when I can, I try to deliver ā¤ļø
Coulda had a red and a blue option for the joycons! 
yes that woulda been so funny ngl
totally makes sense to keep plushy levels proportionate to player base for trading to feel worthwhile but not discouraging
Do we actually get a tracker for the Elderwood Wishlist? Or do we stay in the dark the entire event on if we actually met the tiers or not?
iād like updates on when a tier is met (i think they did that with steam last time?) but i think the last bit was āunknownā until they announced it
last time people went by steamdb i think? but that's not helpful this time so updates a la the insect catching event would be good
maybe for like the last tier or 2, they can announce when weāre half way to the goal 
Thanks for advocating for the community.
A tracker to say we hit a new tier would be enough, I don't expect real time numbers
Just some kind of visual to see how the community is progressing
I think they did give an update during the steam campaign?
i.. dont think so?
I don't remember one anyways
I remember people being upset-ish because we were close to getting the giant one and a lot of people wanted the small one
i rmember cuz we kept asking āare we there yetā each tier 
I could be misremembering though
Ppl would use the steamdb or whatever to track sometimes, from.. what i remember? I think?
im very excited ! š i feel verry blessed finding the game so close to its first real major update XD such a pearl ! ā¤ļø
There was one update at 300k wishlists: #š¢āpalia-news message
oh, i probably missed this because it was just a random msg and not something tagged or anything 
For some reason I remembered there being more 
https://palia.com/news/steam-wishlist-campaign hereās a blog post that they kinda did
i just rmember there being confusion near the end of it cuz no one knew if we made it or not
Hey, I figure this would be a good opportunity to ask- Given how many other past twitch rewards are part of this wishlist campaign, might it be possible to see the palcat glasses make a return sometime soon too? I know a lot of people would love to have another chance at those- I think they were only available one time ever, and they're not tradeable so people haven't had any other means to obtain them since
I will definitely float it as an idea!
Could easily add a tint function in the wardrobe to give us more color varieties with the palcat glasses so we can match the glasses to outfits 
i actualyl really love the animations of villagers u talk to .. but i often forget to look at them cause im reading dialog š¦ maybe if more Voice dialog available, i get to enjoy their reactions and so on more XD ā¤ļø
Wait, I heard something about getting the other palcat plushies???
yis as wishlist rewards-- 200k
@violet copper Sorry to ping, but .. This states Big Frogbert as unreleased, this is incorrect info, we were given Big frogbert for login rewards
- June 27, 2024 and July 10, 2024 https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Patch_Notes/Build_0.181
- (Giant & Bigger are the ones unreleased.
I hope later we get the other palcat versions of the rugs and wallpapers. Island palcat is a color scheme I NEED
Blue glasses pleeeeasse
since we are on the topic of unreleased Blueberry Kilima Roof when?
https://palia.com/news/patch-176
Question: I play on steam and I can't wishlist something I already have - will I still get the wishlist rewards?...
everyone who logs in after elderwood release will get them
So on may 13th?
yes 
Even if i don't personally wishlist the game?
yes
Thanks for the info ā”ā”
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I see a lot of comments about siding/wallpaper/roofs etc in here. I'd love to have Tish's green roof and siding on her shop š
Been asking in feedback for a long while now 
I want more stone wallpapers/floorings (Like the rock that's on the foundation of our houses, still sad we can't put that inside)
I'd like to see some of those too, I love the natural aesthetic.
Yesss
Iāve been trying to find a decent way to apply the ivy wallpaper on the outside in a way that makes it look cool but most other wallpapers I try to pair with it on the outside look so unnatural with it š
Same, I love the Ivy on her home and her windows and door.
Don't have a console. Play with PC via Steam. Do I still get the rewards?
yes, it's basically a log in bonus and the delivery period is when you need to login
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Thanks!
I hate that I wonāt be able to get the refer a friend rewards š I quite literally donāt have friends. FOMO is real
many people just create new accounts with different emails to fulfil the requirements
Thatās a lot of abandoned accounts
Even then I still wouldnāt be able to get them all. Never been a fan of exclusive items from refer a friend programs, just has never sat right with me
there's also #šārefer-a-friend and usually a megathread on the subreddit if you want to take a chance on randoms - i've done that plus shared the news in the gaming channels of several discords i'm in saying i can share a referral code if anyone wants to start playing(rather than just spamming it unsolicited)
Yeahh no thanks. The thought of that gives me the ick, and severe anxiety
Just got back from work and am confused with the wishlist thing. We're already here and playing, so wishlisting would be null n void, surely? š
if it helps, you'll never know who used your link unless they tell you and your ign isn't in the url. but I get it though - i'd just rather party up with vague acquaintances than total strangers so i do it in hopes of increasing the likelihood of that.
is anyone else unable to connect to the server? I got an error report when i tried leaving my plot.
nah I'm currently running amok in there
darn, gonna try reinstalling it then. I keep getting error reports
About two more weeks until Elderwoods - HOW IS EVERYONE COPING WITH THE WAIT???
Very very (im)patiently
I've escaped my plot \o/
It's about us boosting them in the algorithm
So ig they want people to wishlist on the platforms they don't own the game on to do that
What would be some types of rewards that you would like?
FWIW someone on another server said they did the refer a friend rewards the other day for their two accounts, with an email generator it took them about 10 mins to do 5 āfriendsā for both accounts.
Mine disappeared out of my lockbox 
I saw someone mentioned the glasses to you and just wanted to add for people who have missed things - the palcat wallpapers havent made a comeback yet either. there was a purple and a tan one
For sure. I appreciate the feedback. I am curious if there's any non-decoratable rewards that would appeal to folks like the person I quoted.
oh I know! I hope they answer
I just wanted to catch you while you were here
For sure 
oh god im going to have to keep an eye on mine maybe we can get the recipe eventually
If the rewards are materials they need to be in large quantities like one twitch drop gave like 10 planks and it was kinda embarrassing
A big problem right now is that the game as a whole severely lacks non-decor earnable rewards that aren't just some form of stepping-stone-material that leads into home decor. Relics are coming in EW, at least, so that'll be something to look forward to.
But if I had to make a suggestion.... perhaps rare items that're required in the bundles, ones that people struggle to obtain? I know a lot of people struggle with fishing in particular and it's the one skill category where you can't help others catch fish or share loot through partying up, and it'd be really unfortunate to be locked out of EW's story (requires completion of all bundles) due to something like that.
jkahsd ty Tarina I was actually about to say....literally the same thing for all of that
The collective braincell back at it
I appreciate that! Ill forward along some of the feedback. All these ideas are good to know!
The above would be ok, but only if it's a choice of items rather than handing out for free.
aka not all of em, kinda takes away the 'pain' the rest of us endured š
I could go into a whole wall-of-text tangent about the whole lack-of-earnable-rewards thing, but TLDR:
The lack of non-decor earnables is a problem because people want to be able to show off what they earned outside of their home plot, too.
Outside of nameplates, there is virtually nothing that allows an accomplished player to visually set themselves apart from someone who just got out of the character creator 30 seconds ago.
and the nameplates are almost all related to home tours. so still not actually indicative of anything meaningful to those who dont care about housing
Just cause people can achieve something in an "easier" way in the future, it doesn't take away from the effort you put in
it's not like it's some kind of accomplishment either, it's just annoying RNG or something literally being physically inaccessible
oop wait I forgot i'm blocked
I swear I will never understand that sort of mentality lol. Specially in a game with no competition whatsoever
That too, yeah. The vast majority of nameplates are tied to either home decor, or from maji market
What people want is basically to have some way to show off something like "I'm an amazing bug catcher, I have every single starred bug!" to other players without having to jump through hoops, aka inviting someone to your housing plot just to walk them through your trophy room lmao
I've always been of the opinion that if something gets nerfed to be less stressful, good on future people being able to not suffer, I'm glad for them instead of being angry I had to walk both ways uphill in the snow
Like, no one is taking away your effort other than yourself
but, stay in the grind bro lol
I remember when the building times for rooms were reduced and some people were upset because "it took them so long to build their plot!" 
It's the same sort of "gatekeeping" mentality I've seen in other games (like League).
Yeahh I've seen it happen in FFXIV too lmao
and the assumption under giving away stuff for bundles would be that the freebie wouldn't be star quality, i.e. it wouldn't be something you can show off as if you'd "earned" it anyways
Quick question, how do we wishlist something that we already downloaded from Steam
tbh sounds like you're after badges like city of heroes has (which I freaking love, thousands of em lol..)
could turn that into titles, which every MMO-esque game has
we don't, but the powers that be think we'll tell everyone that we know that isn't playing, to wishlist it - however why would you wishlist something that is free, you'll either download it or not š
Iām sure it notifies you once something is out, paid or not. Sometimes people just add it so they know things are finally out then, whether theyāre gonna buy or download right then or there or not
dammit tarina, was waiting to see what you wrote but it's taking too long, going bed xD
pretty much yes, but I also want to see palia break out of the "all character cosmetics/pets are paywalled" thing they currently have going and let people earn some of those too
at the end of the day, there's gotta be a cash shop to fund the game, but there's gotta be enticing goals/rewards to chase too
there we go haha
NOT GOOD! Open the darn door already LOL!!!!
no goals or incentives to play = no reason to pay for cosmetics if you're not playing lmao
luckily with badges, it's all free, you get them via visiting specific locations, killing X amount of <insert mob here>, spending X amount of time in a location, etc etc
easily pliable to palia tbh
for the store, just make special ones that are animated perhaps, then none animated for the rest (with maybe some special ones for completing core story, bundles, etc)
people love that stuff
shooting things with a <1% chance to drop <item>? no, we do not like that
Just make skill themed stuff earnable, leave the cash shop for things like fairy outfits and the like
anywho to bed, it's 1:30am, keep on fighting! š
butterfly pet for the accomplished bug hunter, fairy dragon thing for the person who wants to spend for that extra fancy companion
that kinda thing, but for all skills
Gosh the dialog in this game is really good
sooo I "fixed" the rewards for the 500k... -shifty~tiny~dragon~eyes-
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i need more pin spots this is painfull
Me with no pins and no plans to change that lol
Gotta collect them all.Also they give unique furniture items and portraits
Me forever wearing Reth and Hodari's pins
tbf is hassian ever happy
I want to wear hodari's i'm already wearing reth but iq don't want to make hassian sad i know how stupid that sounds
No.
But he'll become more sads/depressed
being hassian is suffering /j
just keep hodariās pin on forever and youāre golden /not me picking favorites, but who could resist the ādarlināā fr
I know i can't resist that
i think that if you are romancing someone and remove a pin, they might say a single line to you if you remove it? that is my understanding based on what iāve seen in the discord. also you might reset romance level with them?
donāt worry about hassian. he might give you a snide remark if you remove it, but if romance levels do reset, it means you can do the romance quest line with him again 
i donāt know if thatās actually what happens, but tbh i like that. i do love some of the romance quests in the game so i wouldnāt be mad about doing them again! just sucks iād have to remove the pin in the first place š
sorry hassian hodari win
this is the way
when does hassian not give snide remarks though 
into the lockedbox you go
bro over here comparing me to chapaas, which he says he hates
i get you have trauma, but im not yogurt, my dude.
the wall is comeing along nicely
meeks omg 𤣠this made me laugh way harder than it should've 
jel my beloved
i only became a one pin person after the hodari romance questline. i took jelās off and⦠didnāt talk to him for, like, two months⦠so⦠maybe he wouldāve said something but i waited enough updates that it got swept under the rug? š
(iāve also never done romance in games other than a couple VNs and boyfriend dungeon, so, itās not really my thing in games? but itās truly compelling!)
i get not wanting to talk to them because they might be upset, basically š
Jel was actually my first one to romance but that was because he just kept stalking me
This was before hodari could be romance
iām so glad i didnāt try romancing til i ran out of content and was like, well, guess iāll do that! and hodari was romanceable at that point
i remember seeing all the memes about him not being romanceable before he was and being like, 
I originally only was gonna romance my favorites but then furniture and portraits
cos it was never my thing! then i tried it and⦠im super glad i did. i do love that storyline genuinely.
this is why i started romancing reth, i had a feeling they'd make him romanceable in the future (like with shane in sdv) but š i remember thinking "you give us those first lines and we can't romance him???"
Everyone throwing chocolates at him accept my love but he only knows confusion
i donāt love that some furniture is locked behind romance quests. i think itās only a couple pieces, but, like, still⦠doesnāt really jive with the whole āplay the game your own wayā thing :c
Understandable i mean the characters.I don't really want to romance.I'm just gonna romance then forget about them that sounds so bad I'm sorry for my sins lol
@drowsy kernel you good? you have been typing on and off in here for like an hour, according to discord.
discord keeps track of that? xD
I only just now realized I had a ping in here, so I do apologize for the late reply. Tarina hit a few points that I intended to bring up myself, but here's my thoughts.
It's a bit difficult to state what all I think would be appropriate rewards for players like me without re-opening some old cans of worms - not the least of which is the issue with the cosmetics/pets being paywalled. Please do bear with me!
As I said, the game's entire core is centered around the gathering of resources and crafting. Fishing, hunting, cooking, farming, etc. I'm one of those players who largely just prefers doing these, while following the storyline now and then.
- Care packages of some decent items to aid in our skill activities would be something nice to receive now and then, for those of us who do like occasionally hitting the grind (fishing and mining, etc)
- Care packages of actually rare materials, for those who can't spend hours grinding for them.
- As Tarina said, some of the more difficult items to help complete bundles/quests.
- Unique nameplates/titles
- Universal dyes for outfits
And, to touch on that sore subject I mentioned: the potential of cosmetics or even pets. Accessories, single pieces of an outfit, perhaps a less-flashy pet. Perhaps on the rare occasion, something like small amounts of Palia coins. Unfortunately, I highly doubt S6 would be considering these last few, but I think it bears putting the forth the idea anyway.
And, like Tarina said, it'd be nice if players could have something to show off while running around. Plushies and furniture only work so far a housing, which is not necessarily something every player enjoys.
With all that said, I am not against repeat rewards, or the return of rewards. I deeply appreciate when a game brings back any kind of item for players to nab. Let people have their plushies; we just want a more diverse reward bundle that better caters to the playerbase, and their different preferred aspects of the gameplay.
I'm fine, I just realized I had a ping from earlier today and was trying to gather my thoughts! Appreciate the concern tho <3
o im sorry if i made you feel pressured to respond! thank you for sharing your thoughts
No worries at all! I was nearly finished anyway and just trying to fit it all in the non-nitro character limit lmao
i get it ā i am a wordy person as well.
and yours were words that were very much warranted, needed, and appreciated!
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i feel like itās turning into decor game, and⦠thatās never been what i loved about it :c you and tarina (and many others) are bringing such good arguments to the table.
Oh yes I didn't even see this, this is a wonderful point!! Feels like it's moved away from the core aspects besides decor, though I do hope this coming update might bring more attention to it!
Hello. I recently contacted support but Iām having hard time understanding the meaning of their reply. Can someone help me understand it? I will need to dm if so
what are you having a hard time understanding?
Can I dm you?
if the community feature... had features so it was more part of the in game culture to see other player's houses every time your log in, then the focus on decorating wouldn't feel so separated from the rest of the game and it wouldn't feel so much like a shift in focus for them to spend so many resources on it (even if it still is shift from their idea of what endgame or in between chapter play, it would be less conspicuous). But i'm also not much of a decorator so I want everything else fleshed out more than I want more decor
!support
Here's a link to the Player Support: http://support.palia.com/
i donāt accept DMs from this server, itās massive. i would open them up if you could explain moreā¦? alternatively, thereās mailing the mods. sorry, i just donāt know if i can help if i donāt know what the problem is.
I asked support about using a third party app for palia in a āis it considered cheating or notā way and received reply which wasnāt a yes/no answer with a lot of context which I personally can interpret both ways
Did they introduce a new special forageable in Kilima? I just saw a blue flower that looked like a heart drop but it disappeared right as I saw it. Iāve never seen that before
Quest item
Oh snap okay I havenāt been paying attention to quests at all since I just picked it back up haha thank you
I donāt have anything in my quests that mention anything like that though should there be something? Or just gotta randomly stumble upon it?
It should be connected to romance quest if I remember correctly
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i think discussing it here is off the table. i feel like ive seen other people post on here about those sorts of things?
iirc the āofficialā word is that the game studio isnāt actively against overlays since a lot of them help with accessibility, but i donāt recall the official word on ones that do other things
(Meeks I need you to know that the message did indeed go straight into the garbage and it made me laugh)
we have these notes and guide rules you can read
Depends what you are asking about and what you are referring to. Best to ask support about it
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I see, no idea guess that is why they want further clarification.
funny because violet replied to same message. just didnt read it before helping haha
Thanks, everyone, I will take it to them for clarification
well I just mean they could go back to support and ask for specific clarification
idk, might be moot. they're going to be ambiguous on purpose for legal reasons
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glad my wee bit of chaos could bring a chapaa chuckle to your timezone
I know this is like, a really late response, but idk if this helps, but::
What WC has said about third party apps (bolded the relevant parts):
S6 neither endorses nor discourages 3rd party tools and sites as long as they're in players' best interests. This currently includes Adain's site and tools. I personally use Paliapedia all the time. But we do not and cannot endorse it because we have no ability to vet it. So as with all applications, use at your own risk.
Source:: #šāsixer-tracker message
And to clarify: I know this is about one thing in specific, but considering he/s6 mentioned tools and sites as a whole, i figured it was still relevant here.
edit: grammar//got rid of an extra word that wasn't needed lol
listen, i gotta live up to my reputation to being a certified Yapper and Receipt haver /silly
(I appreciate you/love you)
What is Adainās site
Orii, The Receipt Keeper (ily š©·)
Paliapedia! It's very useful (but it does sometimes show leaks/datamined stuff, so i would also use with caution.)
At the time when WC made that statement, it also used to keep track of the plot limit (like, how many items you had placed, before they added it into the game itself!)
But doesnāt it contradict āhacks and cheatsā section
The more information I receive the more confused I become, Iām sorry
It definitely is a really weird grey area, which I think a lot of folks have a hard time with. Especially because there are some things that does make ppl feel like it's 'cheating', while others may view it as a help for accessibility. Which I think is where a lot of the issue resides (imo).
Like, some stuff is definitely hacking/cheating, but then the ones that make it a struggle (imo) might be viewed as help with accessibility. Trying not to say too much since we're not really allowed to talk about it here, so trying to be.. a little vague 
Edit: added words for clarification "might be viewed as help with accessibility"
Don't need to apologize. It's a really confusing area for a lot of folks as a whole. Especially since Palia is in this weird area where it isn't competitive, but some folks still view/feel like it's competitive!
Couldn't have said it better Ori. We can't go too in deep about it but the gist of it is: stuff that is exploiting the game in any way, is cheating and forbidden. 3rd party tools that aren't necessarily that are not condenmed by S6 but they can't publicly condone them either because of security reasons/etc.
who knows why they cant say DONT USE IT. its obvious some of them like the wolf ap one is cheating. in my opinion - we dont need clarify - just dont use cheats... š
i was also confused about it... maybe still i am
Oh boy, here we go.
I'd assume that might be why that support is having a hard time with clarifying, because it is a confusing and grey area, unfortunately.
Aside from the seeming disconnect there is between support and the team sometimes 
Different people have different opinions on what "cheating" entails and what's not. There are some things that definitely border/cross onto that, but others can be seen as tools for accessibility. It's a grey area, but I'd go with the message Ori linked before to go from that.
As long as it's not exploiting the game in very unfair advantages, I'd say it's fair game.
support in tech as a whole is a mess
i know i seem to have had good experiences with paliaās support in comparison to other folks, but i would say the disconnect between the studio and support isnāt unusual.
the seeming disconnect between internal communication is i think the bigger problem. but thatās an outsiders perspective.
not great that all the answers here mention āgrey areasā
wish they could be more clear in their wording
I just wish i could properly talk about it so i can explain/clarify what i mean
are we not allowed to talk about it if we dont mention the names of them? - ofc we're not talking about cheating i hope
It's just not allowed to be talked about, and it's why I'm being as vague as I can be.
Several people on the palia server yesterday were telling me that using that app is not in fact cheating. To me that means that it is not a rare occurrence for players to use that app. But I donāt understand how itās not a cheat. Fine, doesnāt matter for resources but when it comes to bugs it gives unfair advantage against people who donāt use it
oh i see. thank you
And no, I don't think any of us is talking about cheating either.
i wish there was a properly communicated official message so we didnāt have to dance around topics and could just link to it :c
I always tell people if it doesn't affect my game play or gives someone the ability to grief or aquire items outside of the normal means, let them be. I'm not the game police, I just want to play the game in peace. Some people don't see the same fun in grinding for hours but some of us are geared to power through
my partner is amazed that I can grind for hours without getting bored of the game just to have to grind for more materials later
thats why im confused. we should be allowed to discuss then 
Their house, their rules. It's the whole "Streissand effect" thing (that I just do not comprehend but oh well)
That one that shows all the bugs, I can understand where people feel that way, since of the plushes, and for bundles. It's where I wish, to make it a bit better at least in some ways, it works when you use a buzzy jar but is in an area around you. I mean, I just want a minimap already in the game, and to have it work that way, tbh.
I struggle with the compass a lot (in any game, directions aren't my friend), so having a minimap helps me a lot. And if you use a buzzy jar or whatever, and it showing/highlighting things in an area around you would be really nice.
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Precisely this, yes. Specially in a game where there's pretty much no competition. The little competition there is, is entirely artificial and only because people are trying to grind for plushies. But I blame that on game design more than the apps. Even before it, there were people solo farming or "hoarding resources".
As long as it's really not meaningfully impacting anyone else's playing experience, it's fine (like the people cheating at the market minigames).
meeks luck is real indeed
How do you cheat at the market? Iām so curious š
plushies
i remember literally logging off when someone was following my party as we were going for the ladybug ones, because they thought it was funny to follow us and make a whole bunch of noise when they got one.
like, goodness, weāre just trying to have fun together, my dude.
Might not be allowed to say here but shoot a DM
server swapped to us since we were all friends in game and didnāt have that problem with them til they thought it was funny to do that.
hi poratis 
meeksie 
I like the different versions you come up with every day 
oh no š that is the worst š«
I had someone get infront of me the other day while I was hunting and blocking my shots because they wanted to go cut a flow tree on the other side of the map... I have a bone to pick with those kind of players over anybody else on the servers. Lemme hunt in peace
but such is life on a MMO
Hope you blocked them 
perderbis monchuris is for some reason todayās variety

they got joy out of trying to shoot more chapaa for the plushes, etc. it was so annoying. i even invited them to the party multiple times but they were just there to follow us and be lousy! i unfriended them after that. i probably put up with more antics than i should, but that was just not fun.
they said they were following us every time we server swapped because they thought it was funny. like, how is this enjoyable? 
I dont blame you for that! That feels lowkey stalkerish š I don't understand people who do that either. Same reason I closed my plots because some randoms would randomly show up and just start throwing fireworks or something.
I never understood people with that mentality. Like happy for you that you have that much time and can find happiness in being an annoyance but you need to do it over there...far far away from me
I take more issue with this than the 3rd party apps tbh š
i feel like the plushies being the new⦠content, ig? over the past year has contributed to this a lot, ngl.
itās not a competition and it makes it feel like one to folks imo.
I agree honestly. It's made people so cutthroat š then the same people will complain and say "this is a cosy game" when someone doesn't follow one of the 100 unspoken rules
It feels that way with the plushie giveaways, trade system and even the people who sell them for money over on a certain craft site
It's a digital game item guys... it's not that deep. You aren't going to die from the FOMO, trust me, you'll get it in game eventually when you least expect it
There's truly no competition in this game (even in Brighter Shores the only "competition" is a leaderboard), and its so wild (to me) that people are artificially making it one.
wait. what do you mean there is no competition? we dont have a leaderbord but we compete for resources. if other players didnt affect me i would farm everything on my own time. as it is - i have to always worry if there is another player with... apps. or other groups taking everything efficently. i would agree with u if s6 made it so every resource is personal and doesnt respawn when others pick it. hope you get my point
despawn*
Because there isn't one. All the resources respawn. I get your point in part, but having played other similar games, it's really not that deep. Resources respawn, you can switch servers, there's no limited quantity. I take more issue with the inflated RNG systems that contribute to that "competition". So I hope you can see it from my part too :)
real! the only fomo is the stuff you literally cannot obtain (palcat glasses, lighthouse, frog bucket, i think are the only ones?), and i hope they will make those available again to other players! (i didnt read the recent blog so maybe the wishlist items had some of those?)
but yeah. like. if trading is your thing? iām cool with that! as long as it doesnāt affect my gameplay, im cool with it. but it does affect peopleās gameplay when you associate plushies with things like hunting and bug catching.
But items despawn so people have the ability to get it more regularly... the resources in this game are infinite. I never have to compete with another player to get Dari clovers, it's luck of the draw whoever gets them first. I don't blame third party apps for me not finding resources, just means I have to grind longer to stock up.
so people are out there actively grinding for those things and not necessarily being respectful of other players
i understand they respawn. but maybe its just me. i had days where i could peacefully farmed and found everything because few players present. and i had days where there were lots of player farming or hunting in a "good" way and i felt constantly behind them.... it is a terrible thing when you keep seeing pal nodes and they despawn constantly because im not in the same "rythm" with the others
is there any reason for this sistem to despawn when others pick up stuff? why not just let us do it personally
I think that just comes down to personal views. The game is designed in such a way that there's little to no meaning if someone's ahead or not. I know someone else is likely going to have more resources/plushies than me ajd I just accept it and move on. That's just how multiplayer games are.
i dont want to get into the other topic again but it makes me feel like if i meet those players i will have to use the same methods or just take a break and try later
dont know what to say... if others are negativly impacting my play... i say that there is competeition - or whatever word for it.
Truthfully, someone could be using a compass and just are a few steps ahead of you. It's not always a 3rd party program, just rng sometimes. If I go to the store and they're out of my favorite soda, I don't blame the people who bought it ahead of me. I'll just get it later when it's back in stock. Same logic applies to open maps with other players.
At the end of the day, it's a game. I do agree there are many systems in the game that would simply be better off being different, specially with the groves. But like Elikahn said, it's really just common to see in any other game with shared resources/open maps.
i know because i also use those items. its clear when someone knows "more". i saw many times where i didn't see anything on compas but a player next to me went to the next rare spawn . i only saw it at the compass when i got close enough. i did follow many players like that and i know its happening. i wont push for this. i dont want to be bad vibes.
I don't know what to tell you š I can see things on my compass faster then my switch friends because my pc can load quicker 100% of the time. If you don't enjoy the game because you don't like people using 3rd party apps, that's something I can't change or anyone on here can. Sorry you feel your game play has been impacted to such an extent because of them, I never had that problem. I don't have a solution since people will continue to use them until S6 implements software that bans them.
And this is where the 'grey area' comes into play. It varies from person to person. I personally don't see any real competition-- however, the only thing I'd argue is bugs because of the plush drops. It's why when it comes to that, I fully can understand folks points.
However, when ti comes to mining nodes, or picking herbs/forageables, it's hard to say it's competitive when they are on a timer to then despawn. You never know if someone already has mined/picked that (aside form seeing it start to fade.)
And for flow trees, i'd argue it's not only bc there are multiple ways to get said material. (groves, flow tree parties. they also spawn relatively quickly in my experience).
For the minimap stuff, i just wish that would just get implemented in the game, in ways that i suggested earlier/above.
It's just a struggle cuz again, some are genuinely helpful for some with accessibility reasons š
I argue plushies are only competitive due to the rng numbers in order to drop one. Someone can get it on their first while others are in their 1000s. I don't blame the spawn rates as much as I blame the fact to get certain plushies, you are at the mercy of the game, not player skill. I know the map will always spawn a Dari clover or the PH sernuk will respawn 30s after it dies. But a plushie? Some days I might get 7 and sometimes I'll go a month without seeing one.
I think there would be less general use of 3rd party tools if there was a true focus on accessibility within the game (adding a minimap, providing more contrasting visual options, etc vs just "lets make the UI bigger")
It would probably help with some, yes.
Just going to give like, an example as well: I play WoW with addons, some of these are for ofc some QoL, but some for accessibility reasons, like: helping with making the UI helpful for my needs (without it randomly resetting, cuz for some reason, on WoW it does that...)
There's also some to help give me notifications of things I might otherwise miss, due to me being distracted a lot, or struggling with audio, or something similar-- and that also helps a lot.
I probably wouldn't use as many in that game, if they would adjust or fix some of those issues. Which they have slowly been working on-- so there's some people I know who don't use any UI addons for WoW because they started improving it and making it more customizable. And I'd argue it'd be the same here.
I genuinely wish the plushies had some sort of pity system/bad luck protection, or being able to accumlate specific reagents/currency that you can turn in for a specific plush of your choosing. (same with Zeki lucky balls).
Honestly having a pity system or using the guild system to trade in materials to get rarer things like plushies would be lovely. 10 RTBs for a plushie or something. But it won't happen because people will lose interest in the game. MMOs rely on the grind mindset in order to keep players and give them something to do. It's not realistic for S6 to implement a easier system but they could tweak it to make it less competitive for the rarer spawns.
honestly, I can't even remember the last time I played Palia with the audio on - simply because people were going overboard with fireworks and things that generated such loud noises that I couldn't think straight
The shoot 10 fireworks at the festival... or people wanting to empty their bags... I haven't had my sound of since.
please no minimap !
even just one that could be turned on/off, like Animal Crossing NH
the no minimap is actually a blessing guys ! .. it forces u to be present in the game .. learn the surroundings .. it keeps ya in the game in a way i didnt think i would end up loving š ā¤ļø .. i hatet no minimap the first couple of days xD untile i realised how present i was xD
how often are we just running and controlling a arrow on a minimap .. only looking at the minimap, navigating surrounding only thru a minimap xD
yeah no that isn't a blessing if im getting lost, turned around, and frustrated
But we're advocating for those who need the accessibility in order to comfortably play the game. A minimap would help those people who need it. I would toggle mine off but I would appreciate S6 putting one in to make the game easier for others to play.
too many games like that XD i think palia did this no-minimap thing on purpose .. and i think its genious XD ā¤ļø
It's literally an accessibility concern for myself and others
People with no direction awareness struggle with the flat 2d maps and reading it.
aaah ok like that .. ok as long it be a accecibility setting u have to turn on .. not a thing u gotta turn off xD
ok ok i hear ya .. forgot to think about others .. just remembered some people have very bad direction awareness and thats a real thing sorry xD ā¤ļø
The audio in Palia has a lot of issues. I've tried to suggest (and still talk about it) about adding better audio sliders, along with an visual audio thing. Similar to Fortnites. I forget the actual name, but here's an image for referenace/as an example
but i will say i think the thought that gone thru S6 on the minimap thing is kinda genious xD (then we realize they just lazy and they just havent gotten around to implementing, and no deeper intentions was made š >'.'< )
jk ofc ^^ ā¤ļø
visual audio options would be a blessing
oh thats actually really cool o_O
It's something I've been trying to suggest since the beginning! I know it's something that will take a while to implement/figure out (imo), esp since it'd be fully new...
But I still hope they will start to help separate some of the audio sliders some more. Like, the waterfall sounds are frustratingly loud compared to others (for example). So it makes it hard to hear the bobber if youre fishing nearby.
And iirc, there's some sort of slider that is attached to the fishing bobber sound as well (cant remember which one), which also caused issues. So here's hoping it gets improved in time.
hmm just trying to think why u need to be able to pinpoint sound tho ? what element of the game u thinking about where u missing it ?
People who are deaf, hard of hearing
Some bugs/forageables are hard to distinguish from some other sounds, too.
You need sound when fishing or even Grove spawns. You can tell what direction it spawns in. Also for when bugs get startled, ladybug spawns, there's quite a few cues I miss out on by not having sound.
oh yea but what sound ya need to pinpoint ? š trying to remember scenarios where i use surround sound hehe
Where a bug or forageable is near you? Or a chapaa/hunting creature
groves, spawns, PH sernuk, etc
aaaaaah like that ! .. right ... i get it š
priviliged little me :S .. dont realize how much i use it :S
the startle bug sound i use alot ... the grove i havent learned how to pinpoint yet xD
I turned mine off because the sound of the dispel arrows, waterfalls and fireworks blow out my ears on my headphones. I like my ears to work. It's on the levels of games that sound blast you on the starting menu... those have a special spot in hell.
but also, being able to hone in on certain sounds means being able to block out others.
Too much sound can be just as bad and overwhelming with certain neurospicies
the louder it is = the direction itās in basically
oh so when u hear the horn u just spin around to hear where ? š
There's also just audio cues that some people may miss, bc the audio can be funky. Or you might be distracted (focused on something else, or just vibing out as a whole). So having something that can help with the visual, could help pinpoint that, and also help you 'focus' on a visual instead.
Could be helpful for, like i said earlier: people who are deaf, hard of hearing, or just prefer playing with the audio low or off
mhm 
oh ty ā¤ļø
Genuine question: Do flares make noise? (been a bit)
Yeah, they're subtle thankfully
Yes some kind of explosion sound. 
yea they do
I have to say, the first several MONTHS that I played, I didn't realize foreageables made different sounds because there was so many other noises
That's what I thought. So having a visual to pinpoint that, could also help, when they first go off. Since some folks may miss it.
iirc they make noise on shooting them in the air, but i think itās like a very light hum or some twinkle whn their active
wait what! the foragable have uniq sounds?
esp if itās the darn blue/green flare in daytime 
Yep, they do! I don't think they should have a visual indicator to show different forageables or anything (altho, having an indication if a bug is common/uncommon/rare/epic woudl be good .. same with the animals/huntables).
On Switch Iāll have to really make an effort to move my camera around to try and spot them or climb on a high cliff.
yup, they have different tones. Some have like a light twinkle, others a deep hum, droning, etc
One of the forageables, i cant remember which, sounds like a chicken clucking or something. it confuses me each time.
not me immedaitely turning my game audio on to go find ginger
yeah it's one of those, since thos eare still relatively 'new' to me lol
wow .. time to hyperfocus on sound effect XD learning to recognize them all >'.'<
i can hear proudhorn and mushrooms/sweet leaf in my dreams
birder by heart .. so shouldnt be that hard to learn xD
wait the bug sound is also special per type ? o_O
iirc yea
At least the flow trees no longer scream
those were dark days
lmao ohhhhh I hear it now. It makes the little cluck like noise for just a moment in the twinkling
that sounds horrifying ! XD
Yeah omg, i would walk by when Im trying to test stuff for folks, and im like "what in the WORLD is that"
was the reason i had no sound on my plots 
no sorry, it's the green onion not the ginger
and thats a whole chicken noise XD
i knew it was one of them 
oh i seen streamers have hundreds of flow trees .. that must have sounded like a warzone if thats what u did haha
I dislike the noise of the flow trees
im always hunting for green onions for recipes ... i need to listen for it now xD
I'm sure people still have videos of it. It was unsettling to hear the first time playing.
and iirc if you went on a plot with no flow tree you still heard their screams
ah the echos of ghostly flow
idk, I always just have my sound effects off because when I'm material grinding, it's just incredibly distracting
Just the screams of all the trees we murdered to make into a chair in ugly green and pink tints
I'm forever devastated that we have yet to get a color mod that doesn't have some kind of pink/cool undertone.
Like PLEASE give me that gorgeous green/brown color option at Hodari's
but also, I have a crafting problem XD
wow .. u just craft same items over and over ? XD
at this point I have every crafted item in every color at least once.
But also, I've been playing since the start of open beta
The amount of tints the villagers have in game versus the selection we get will always tilt me. Let me have the investigator tint set already since you refuse to give us more furniture that matches the style 
wow xD funiture crafting is the least leveled skill for me XD maybe level 11 or so i think xD
ohhhh but at least they gave us the color mods for investigator finally. I do love that set
lmao we're not going to go in to how much time I dedicated to cake parties before they nerfed it.
That was the best way to make bank on gold back in earlier gameplay
wow xD
Back when we could afford the housing prices. I can't buy a new harvest house without a 110k down-payment now 
make sure to get your bonus % up, then keep your focus meter filled. You'll level up faster than you think
yea i always keep focus on and i have like 91% bonus atm xD i think 100 is max if i understand right š
I still just want to be able to adjust the colours to how we'd like, but i understand why we can't
i just would love to be able to choose what the main colour is and then the accent colour myself
you know in that regard I would be happy with being able to colour all elements we can put down on plot (why not the fences?, why not the Kilima set? Why must there always be items that are bugged out by colouring that you cannot use for 6 months then?)
And after that I would love they would do away with item placement restrictions. Why can not players decide if they want to place something on the floor, wall or on top of something else...
but I guess everybody would have their own priority list in their head š
ahh. and the item rarity for craftable items - I am annoyed every week that I need to craft another stupid mirror, because there are not enough rare recipes in the new sets.
Quick question:
I play Palia on Steam used to on my Switch, but like it much better on PC), and my daughter plays on Switch, but plans to play it when it releases to console next month.
She has put the game on both of our wishlists on the PS5, and even though I play on Steam, will I still be able to get the wishlist rewards?
When you already got the game you just need to log in to get the rewards. Cause everyone get the rewards even if they dont whishlist it. The reward is tide to how many ppl whislist it. There is a blog post for more info in the palia news channel.
none related, but I love the name witchy haha
hi TD o/
Not so hot take here... but maybe... just maybe, the promotional campaigns would have more traction if the things given away weren't plush & plush adjacent decor as the main draw - thus perpetuating the stereotype that Palia is nothing but "Plushie Hunter X"
Do you know how fast we would hit the mark if the red & green froggy buckets were on a goal?
Or if an outfit was on the 500k mark?
People would come out of the wood work for free clothes. 
Oh jeez or if the recipe for the spa ducks was a goal?
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But what do I know... I'm just a Tiny Dragon
are we ever able to fix the broken plot sign? the one that dangles infront of our plot
nopes and chopping it down is gone for good too
aw, i dont want that. I hoped i could fix it up and be part of the village. Maybe in the future
one day perhaps š
I accidentally chopped mine after saving it for over a year šššš
im sure if they add the ability to fix it they'll give people the chance to build a brand new one
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Wasnāt able to find a straightforward answer online - what ways are there to unlock name plates besides getting housing tour reactions?
I have the one thatās from the main quest, and I know you can get them from visiting homes as well, but any other ways?
The only other ones I can recall where the ones obtainable at Maji Market (the limited naga one during Lunar New Year and then the regular maji market).
Thanks, Iāll check it out! Iāve been out of the loop for ages and trying to get back into things
they spawn in this area
There's also this one that you can get, just from visiting a lot of home tours:
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Housewarming_Hero_Nameplate
There's different tiers of it
Ah Google was just giving me a Reddit thread from nine months ago - thanks!!
eww hunting for those things zak, buy em from zeki š
Thank you for your thoughtful reply!
I appreciate the perspective.
I said it the other day, but I don't want it to be missed.
Giving people some free Grow All Out seeds would be AMAZING rewards, imo.
I love the stages of the seeds, but I cannot utilize the different stages unless I want to stop receiving seeds to make more, and I cannot do that more than once.
For example, the vine appearance you get when growing the Grown All Out Bench looks super cute, but it's a one and done thing.
If we are adding to a list of suggestions, might I suggest furniture trading? I think that would help out a lot of players!
Oh, I forgot about the Growable gazebo.
Ohhh that would look amazing in some swamp builds.
This is advertising your youtube channel so no its not allowed
noted. I shall delete
you cant buy them from zeki ? š
they should be there, they used to be
both of em were added after the first time cabbage was added, originally meant to be on zeki's store, later added after the market
so .. im on palia help center scrolling thru stuff and i stumble on (https://support.palia.com/hc/en-us/articles/7474299217812-Monetization#what-is-your-monetization-model--0) ... since i joined the game a couple weeks ago i seen people talk about the monetization many times ... but this post is 2 years old at least and they clearly statet how they gonna do it and what the plan is xD and i think they explain it really really well ^^
Hii, I have a question. How do I put palia on my steam wishlist if I have already the game? I can't do it right?
yea u cant do ^^
ohh sad
ty 
you still get rewards when you log in so itās ok 
huh I thought I would have to look harder to find these 
But nope, may I present the Pink Hydrangea Flower & Cottonball Flower
Seen in image 4 of Patch 0.178 Notes released 3/25/2024
https://palia.com/news/patch-178
There are also Mixed Hydrangea Flowers used, but we have since gotten some added here & there.
Then in the Wedding gif the shot is almost entirely made up of Pink Hydrangea Flower to compliment the roses. 
would be nice if players were able to recreate that in game.
But c'est la vie I guess š 
ohh okiiii but i wanted to help too 
itād be a waste unless you actually use it but you can always make a new steam account with a diff email š but iām same itās already wl and i have it on pc and switch xD gonna get my siblings to wl it tho on ps5 cuz they wanna test it on there anyways
arenāt we getting cotton balls (i think) in ew 
we don't really complain about them monetizing, they have to. it's the way they went about doing it. they don't scale the price very well for other currencies (someone posted where the basic 5 usd set of coins would be nearly a months worth of pay in their currency or something like that). we complain that there's nothing for the f2p players to work towards as far as clothing because everything is paid only and clothing is the only way to show your achievements without having people come to your plot. things like pets (as of right now probably will change next patch) can only be cosmetic without having any player interaction as far as helping (like gathering items) is a massive miss as well
i feel like todays a good day to get that feedback list i have thought out clearly 
but they clearly state why it has to be like that .. u CAN change cloth .. dresses and so on for free .. u can change skin colors and hair styles ... so u can express uself to some degree .. rest of cosmetic is their ONLY monetization .. and therefore anything that would take away from that would bankerupt the company.
same even if itās the only version of it
iāll take one over none ty
but for people that like to "role play" or "play the part" there is nothing for them in this game. if someone absolutely loves to cook (some on here have even 9999 level in cooking) you would never know that just by looking at the player in the game. if the player had things like a chef's hat, apron, and things like that, it would clearly show that they love cooking. but there is nothing like that in the game
S6 does do collabs and releases physical merch like vivyls or real life plushies. Clothing in game isn't their only income source so it wouldn't bankrupt them to make one or two outfits like the chapaa friend referral one for players as rewards.
iāve said it before but if you want super flashy stuff like they have now in the premium store, thatās great
but i think f2p players at least can have a freebie skin (preferably for each skill maybe? )have them cost an amount of guild coins/require a ..idk 50+? or higher level to get them. maaaybe once each āfinal templeā or whatever is completed we get something that looks āadventure/ā or something but super basic no special animations or vfx with them.
that is what people want. keep the fancy flashy items to the premium store, give something back to the f2p players as well. the f2p are the ones that s6 needs to get to open their wallets, if they don't then the game is done for
and if players can't get what they need to scratch itches then they will leave and not bother spending anything on the game
if they do like sky children there can be special collabs for outfits, maybe 1 free and the cooler on on the store for limited time (can do reruns on them yearly if they want or just have it a one time thing depending on what they wanna do)
i for one have no desire to visit jels store unless itās to do quests, i think itās kind of a let down esp when they have a āweekly change your appearanceā cooldown
hmm yea i think u guys right .. if its something very little that everyone could get like a chief hat or apron .. i dont think that stop a person in buying a flashy baker outfit in premium store if they like the game and cooking for example ...
cause if everyone have the same apron and chief hat on .. u wanna stick out and pay for something cooler xD
To my knowledge they are in the "forgotten item" bucket. Along with that 1 ravenwood item we don't talk about, the watertower that may or may-not still be in the works. That bar of metal that was in the trailer for the 2025 maji-market.... a whole shopping list of things from the beta trailer that they decided to show footage of yet again in that "30 Minutes of Gameplay" that GameSpot released a couple weeks back. 
I could go on... but I've already spent more energy on this than I should have during my sabbatical.
In a nutshell - this is my not so subtle reminder that players who don't subscribe to this "plushie lifestyle" [as S6 puts it] exist, and the more they lean into the plush only giveaways - it they miss out on all the people that could honestly care less about plush. Or who honestly - are just tired of the over saturation of plush items.
Even doing something like have a community wide event when people enter their designs to be voted on and created into the game would be a nice method to involve the community. People might complain people will buy votes but they already do for the voting aspects of the game like house plots so meh
and before anybody else says it. NO, giving free cosmetics to players will NOT destroy the game, if anything it may encourage people to actually spend money
IN is proof of that
this is why in wow when i see someone with the same outfits as me i go āwell one of us is going to have to changeā and thatās usually me
but i love it cuz most of them are from past raids or things you canāt get anymore or from a trading post which is monthly and the items come back eventually some other month
but .. but but but .. they also promis they wont force players to do loot boxes (having stuff needed for gameplay in lootboxes) and they wont do dirty tricks with marketing .. so staying true to not playing mind tricks on weak minds ... that takes away from profit for sure xD
yea like with what ffxiv does: design wepons/hairstyles/furniture (idk if they do clothes)
Eh... the pink maji "exclusive" plushie begs to differ 
whats that ? š
I'll always see that one as a marketing ploy that went poorly for S6
itās a collab with the drink company ⦠but later on there will be one in the game but āØdifferentāØ
It's where S6 collabed with a drink company to release their second "exclusive" plushie. Their first one was the Chapaa Pillow plush. The pink maji however is only a "time-exclusive" we found out a few weeks after the release. So people were under the impression they'd be getting an "exclusive" in-game item when realistically it's just a early release as S6 has said the pink maji will be released in the game at a later point. Different item same, but same design.
yes, because they totally will not do a mystery loot box for real money that gives some random outfit that could actually be on sale and cost less than the loot box price /s
People paid 25 dollars to basically rent a plushie they could get in-game for free later
My guy friend feels very bonita in his wedding dress
Is moderating this server still unpaid? It should probably be stated clearly whether it's paid or volunteer work. I didn't see a clarification there.
i feel like : name change, different pink (maybe a pale?) and either smaller or larger size (i think itās the same as the medium? regular maji one) and it miiight be ok
dude xD they didnt promise no lootbox .. they saiid ''You wonāt need to buy loot boxes or get content through a rotating store''
''If you visit someoneās awesomely decorated house, youāll know they earned each piece of furniture and put in the time to make it shine. We believe this is critical for you to feel great about the time you spend in Palia.''
you wonāt need to ⦠but your friends will! 
''The key takeaway is that you wonāt be forced to buy loot boxes, or be overly pressured by the fear of missing out (FOMO) to get that one item you wanted before it leaves a continuously rotating store.''
multiple stuff they didnt stay true to it seems XD
Question about the time zone question?? What time zones are we most active in? Like I live in MST, but I'm up between certain times so like I'm active in all time zones between those times is that what you mean?
Or are you just asking what time zone I'm living in
Sorry if that is a dumb question
something something twitch drop plushies, rugs, glasses haven't shown back up yet after a year
I feel so "great" about the 1500 hours to come home to a plot I can't fully customize with colour tints that aren't retched or have 5 different variations of the same tint that don't even match depending on funiture type. Some berry furniture might be pink, others purple. Alabastor might have a green tone or a pink one while having its name misspelled. You'll be lucky to have a full green Calathea tint without the pink. I just want some consistency if end-game is literally fill my house with things I grind for that people might see occasionally
But instead we get the fun-guy plushie in a yellower tint
I made new account just for fun since my brother doesn't play I just started a save for him and WOW the intro is so much better in the past 2 and a half years.
And only if you have 5 friends who want to play or make 5 spam accounts to rot away
idk who asked but its was probably to see what time zone you were in? #š¤āgame-help message if you want to see when daily gifting resets itās posted in the post here (itās already converted to your timezone)
In the mod app
Sorry if this is the wrong chat for this
i think once they get the other colors (looking at white and that teal
) theyāll probably do another rotation? or at least i hope they do
OH forgot about the limited time pets that were available for only a few patches before they went away. so yeah, they totally did do fomo
We're still volunteers, but I'll make sure to take this as feedback to the team!! 
what is this pet transport u talking about o_O ?
I'm curious to see what happens with the Naga plushie and the other snake year themed items since next year is Year of the Horse
My fave was telling them their marketing material was wrong (when bok choy and cabbage was coming, but they advertised it as something else which I forget now), and asking to pass the info along. To then be told the marketing material was correct, then it launched and it was in fact wrong anyway xD
it y be the right channel but you can always dm modmail and ask maybe there? but think thatās to confirm what timezone your in so you said mst ? so probably put that
it was leaked in the game that in the setting menu somewhere they mention courier pet. but all the pets currently don't do anything, so sometime soon they should have something about pets being able to move things
That's a good idea too. I didn't think about that
It mostly refers to what time zone you live in since we have international moderators on the team, but I get what you mean since I'm a bit of a night owl for my timezone c:
You could also add in the last section of the survey about being up and different times etc 
i fully expect them to stay in the register tbh, let ppl be able to purchase the plushies as they come out or go back and get the one they missed
wow o_O well ... ''We will not monetize any core gameplay in Palia'' i guess everyone gets pets soon if they gonna stay true to that statement XD
which with pets being a cosmetic and therefore a paid item only, they need to give a free pet to people
Yeah exactly like I may liveee in MST but I play in the night time
hmmm, Queenie is Batgirl, confirmed 
Then yeah, there should be a section near the end about any other details and such you can add there c:
(Edited my original reply, but posting again jic hehe)
I try to help be a light in dark places
(bird of fire joke
)
I'm not so sure since things like the "Luna New Year Poster 2024" poster never made it back in rotation or even buy-able this year.
I feel like the poster is good to have a unique one tho, yes "technically" it's FOMO but like. I really don't mind
plus 5 points for the mod app
/jk
Naur take the jk back LOL
yes but i think itās be silly to have to wait X years! for the snake to come back for example. sky children has a lunar event and each year their releasing a new mask (one thatās free and one thatās paid) but past ones are kept there for the currency players can get in the game. if palia doesnāt keep the snake/other lunar plushies as they come out i think thatād be a loss⦠ima add that to my feedback list
Plushes, for sure make them buy able IMO. But the posters? Nah.
posters i think having for sale too could be ok⦠maybe a slight diff design each year? ( might touch fomo) but maybe a ābasicā poster you can get each time and then one thatās only unique to that year
thats so cool ! xD looking forward to that ! >'.'<
Yeah there's a basic Market poster so I think that a basic LNY poster would be good too, with a ~slightly~ different one for those who were there
one is better than none 
well if they gonna stay true to their statement they gotta release a pet for F2P players then š
hereās a free pet if you want āskinsā for the pet throws you at the premium store
and if they gonna stay true to the statement that u cant earn something u buy and vice verca .. then it has to be a pet type noone has yet xD
I fully expect everyone to get one via the story. Then cash shop versions.
same
i would be fine with that, as long as f2p players can finally get a pet of their own after 1-2 years
PLUMEHOUND please S6 (edited to have fewer caps so Einarbot would let me post lol)
they give ya a Chapaa xD
Actually wait I'd be down for a Chapaa pet
haha xD
I'm still sad they used the "investigator" tint on the background of the Flutterfoxes 
Is that not an option yet? I never tint anything lol
Nope, but it's used for pet promos. The witch cat also has the tint on the Lily Ratten set 
Hi everyone, I'm a returning player! I havenāt played in about a year, and when I stopped, everyone was doing cake parties to make money. However, I havenāt seen that many parties up since coming back. Is it no longer the best way to make money?
i believe it still is
I thought poke bowls give more now than cakes?
They do, sushi and sashimi parties are also better and faster imo. As long as you're only providing rice or garlic, usually the hosts provide the fish.
i've never done a cake party (or any kind of cooking party) so i wouldn't really know
got all my gold from harvesting apples
Ooo good to know! Thanks yāall !! Anyone know the best place to find parties for it?
our party channel here in discord ^^
People have been asking for a F2P-earnable pet for ages because they want pets to have gameplay features, but ever since the courier pet thing was 'leaked' in the game settings with no sign of an earnable pet in sight, people have been very worried about S6 possibly breaking their "no gameplay mechanics/advantages behind paywall" promise.
(you could argue they've already stepped on the line with paid plot landscapes- home tours have rewards based on how many people react to your housing plot, and a paid landscape can make your plot more visually appealing than one without, and therefore more likely to 'wow' visitors into reacting....)
I can't really put any stock in that monetization blog anymore. Whether because of Daybreak or not, things have changed, and I don't think they're gonna be sticking to those promises. They've been inching closer and closer to the line and they're standing on it rn
And I'm fairly confident they're gonna step over it with the pet courier thing
It might be nice for WC to put out a new, updated monetization blog to actually be clear of how they're choosing to run the game currently
yea if they gonna change the fundamental monetization they should change that blog for sure XD
I certainly hope it remains entirely f2p as it is now, but even if it doesn't, I for one will continue to play
I was mildly concerned when they made the point of putting "free expansion" on the elderwood trailer too... if expansions become paid I am out
You either die an ACPC or live long enough to see yourself become a ACNH.
if it fr becomes a pay to play game ⦠iād still play but itād be like i do with ffxiv: whenever i can get the money to log in 
Daybreak loves pay2play features/updates so....
I saw a few different ideas that i really liked and they got me thinking more. I saw someone say something about being able to earn the Palia coins or outfits I think, or get them as loot drops at a 1% chance or something. I was thinking about that and what if thereās separate pieces from the magic creatures. Like a hat, shirt, pants, that are themed for that specific creature. Or coins dropping at a super low rate too. I feel like Iād want to spend money if I could earn small amounts of coins to get me close to however many I need.
I remember seeing someone talk about themed outfits for the skills also. We could have a similar concept but earn each piece at certain levels. Even if itās one piece per 100 levels it feels like a decent incentive to keep going. I love decorating but plushies arenāt my fav so I donāt care a whole lot to hunt for them but if I had to level up for the outfit pieces I feel like Iād put a lottt more effort into those skills.
Or even super simple outfit recipes n to craft with the furs and stuff
I hope everything made sense lol and Iām sorry I couldnāt credit the people I got ideas from but I was catching up on a day and a half worth of reading in here lol
I've seen a few concerns with that courier pet item on the settings ( I personally never go in settings so had to take a look when I saw that mentioned ). My take on it, which might be wrong, is that it will be another tool we get to use when we run out of inventory space and similar to the free trip home every so many minutes, without the need to find a travel board you can pull out the courier pet which might be a reward you earn via a quest or discover it etc, to ship out the contents of the bag line you chose in the settings back home so you can carry ont getting more goodies for a while longer. It might have a time limitations or like the other tools use whenever you want. But, it might not work the same as the pet you buy that travels everywhere with you. It might be one click and it appears and almost immediately runs off in the distance before disappearing.
That's my thought on it anyway. Benefit of the doubt.
Easy fix to the courier pet. Provide a free version. It doesn't negate the paid ones. As they can still be considered cosmetics. Like how the elephant glider and the witch broom glider is cosmetic, from the regular glider, but looks and operates slightly differently .
That way it won't be blocked by pay wall.
That's my hot take
Tbh, a free pet that doesn't require any palian coins should be available.
Badruu asked if he's gone too far with the puns and I didnt have the option of saying no. I love his puns.
They might exist again but are unusable? I can't recall
Exist but can't be played
watches the game catch fire as ciri buys it
Me having spent all my money on the red presents 
That was my Steam name for quite awhile š
Late to the convo Lacie, but these 2 PalCat Glasses from old Twitch Drops would be nice to see as a log on/wishlist reward 
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Palcat_Glasses#How_to_Obtain
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Sandy_Palcat_Glasses#How_to_Obtain
anyone else struggling with only being able to have 8 chests? I'm a notorious item hoarder and I'm struggling to keep my storage empty enough to store needed materials
yes!! i dont know how to keep my chests empty, i hoard so much stuff for recipes and requests and gifting..
Have you both fully upgraded your chests yet? IIRC iron is the current highest tier
oh we can do that
I recommend starting a storage plot to store starred meals, bugs, fish, gems, and flowers to decorate later. Those just clutter your chests if you don't plan to sell them
i gotta save up my gold, rn i have like.. only 100 qwq
don't forget that you can also use your crafters as extra storage as well. i have 3 sawmills, 2 glass makers, 6 smelters and 3 looms, one dedicated to each of the items that they can process (silver and gold share a smelter since i don't ever have a lot of those) might need to increase the numbers when EW drops, but this way you can have 4 stacks of items inside, 3 stacks ready to be used for crafting whenever you need to and the unprocessed still available.
also helps that you don't need to stop a process in the middle when you are in need of another item
!market
Current market is taking place from <t:1745305200:f> to <t:1745910000:f>.
Next market is from <t:1748329200:f> to <t:1748934000:f>.
Why did I think it was always the first week of the month?
Ugh. I need a bunch of pastries for my bakery build. Guess I gota wait a month.
to be fair, it did start a week earlier than ppl predicted/estimated as well, so that might of been why, too.
If someone helped me hunt something for a quest would it count
Yeah, if you party up and stick close to the party member, all huntable loot can be collected by both party members even if only one person actually took the critter down
The market bot dates are incorrect - Luna NY market threw the timetable a bit
Do you mean what it was previously? bc they are correct right now
Ok cause I need help, Sifuu wants me to hunt a Proudhorned Sernuk
Alright, I can log on and help out. Give me a few minutes, mind if I DM you?
Iām actually about to get off for the night, I got work in the morning. Iāll let you know when I get back on tomorrow ā¤ļø
I've stuck on the uncommon fosh quest for so long because i keep selling them for money āļøš
I changed my mind Iām getting back on if you still wanna help š
alright, hopping on now. this shouldn't take long š
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Can someone tell me what is up with G, and what it's exercise has to do with my game?
There must be so many things causing that error to happen that it's taking time to track down every instance of it .. I guess if it is still happening for people.
i guess your refriGerator is in fact, running /j
every time i crash i send it in and restart the game via steam lol
Mum and I were very lucky and our crashes were fixed with the first patch they did for it. Mine was less invasive though, only affecting house visits, but mum had to play on her steam character to get her Palia fix until the fix stopped it crashing for her
Is there a tracker for the wishlists yet?
Nope
Ok
Last time we got updates periodically in #š¢āpalia-news and #š¦āsocial-feed for the Steam wishlist as we hit each of the milestones.
Ohhh they changed it! When I saw it a couple of days ago it was still wrong.
So still no way to delete character (without contacting support) or have a second one yet? Big shame
Btw fellow fic writers, you can download a dark mode extension for Google docs to save your poor eyeballs
holly molly reth ''easy'' >'.'< haha xD he just told me good things can be easy .. and goes on to mention stuff like the beach and end with ''ME'' haha xD
as nobody linked this: #š¢āpalia-status message
the answer is no, they were not fixed, just the model was put back in.
I don't have the direct message from general. But ladies said, she will do her best to update us, once she gets number
Yeah I saw that too #š¬āpalia-general message, thank you 
I assume she will post in the #š¢āpalia-news like the previous CM's did. It's always a popular question with players.
how i hide my msg with spoiler ? so u gotta click text to see it ? š
If you are trying to do it on PC put 2 of these \ before and after the text you want spoilered 
It will come out like this ||test||
2 of them I posted ^^
\ this comes out looking like what Ciri said once it's placed before and after the words you are spoiling 
||is tamala 200+ years old ? xD i just had a quest where i found a letter that was from the luminator of the council 200 years ago .. and he wrote to tamala about she be excomunicated if she dont stop experimenting with youth potion XD ||
You got it 
That's not on all PC keyboards, mine included, so we use 2 of these before and after the text and then it places those marks 
2 before and after of those
||test||
Weird 
This is how it looks on mine 
I have a theory on the new NPC for the elder wood update š³ itās a far fetched one but could be
this is because it's treating the first slash in each of those as what's called an "escape character"
lets you do things like use multiple asterisks back to back without it activating the bold or italics *** like this ***
\*\*\* like this \*\*\*
no idea about being able to use those as a spoiler tag though, I have to use bars | but it shares a key with the \
When did they say this? Who is Maxwell?
I've missed so much! 
Ah my theory was gonna be ||Tailyn since she was declared ādeadā but one of her letters mentioned the elder wood and we magically find her and reunite the family||
!elderwoods
The Elderwood Expansion opens the door to a mysterious new Adventure Zone on May 13th.
Palia will also be launching on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S.
Read more about it here.
Elderwood - 30 minutes of gameplay (Video contains spoilers!)
@swift token
Oh, I just skimmed this to avoid spoiling the whole thing, lol. Just listened to a fee minutes and then looked at the EW map.
But okie dokes! Thanks, x
Came searching for someone to mention this... idk where the message went so this might be random... but lol I would really like the glasses to come back,.. but what I want most is that purple palcat Party Wallpaper... I really hope they bring it back for a twitch drop once ps and Xbox players join, I have the sandy one... I neeeeeeeed the purple!!!!!! š¤
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Palcat_Party_Wallpaper
I've even submitted a feedback ticket asking them kindly to bring it back just once š¤
OR they should allow friends to decorate each other's houses with wallpaper that the other friend may not have so I would just need to find someone who owns the wallpaper... it's a good idea I think š¤
lucky for you I remembered the wallpaper and brought it to the CM's attention, so if she misses your message she's still been made aware of it
(hopefully she sees your message though)
Oh I NEED that wallpaper!
whats the spawn rate for clay nodes in a server? i come into a server and there are no clay to be found for mining.
u looking next to water ? o_O
yep, up and down the lake, nada
oh i havent encountered that yet o_O
oof
and i almost datet her o_O .. ||imagine ur GF spell wearing off and she turning into dust like mother gothel(tangled) o_O uff XD ||
Theyāre quite common actually, someone else might be ahead of you and mining clay too.
Youāre just arriving likely at the despawn time since they hit those nodes.
try finding all the nodes, mining along the lake side by the boat house, behind remberance hills, around the lagoon, including the bridges of small islands along the lake, and then cross the river towards the smaller stream towards the Maji Market area as there can be 1-4 nodes there too.
Alternatively, you can try switching servers if youāre not finding nodes. Server sync to a friend if theyāre in Kilima but not your server, or return to your housing plot and come back to Kilima to see if it puts you in a new server.You have joined a new server
what is the first dish been trying to find out so i can finish this one
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Hot_Hounds
I believe it's Hot Hounds
i dont think i have that recipe do you know how to aquire it
oh sorry i clicked on it thx
Hehe was about to tell you, but no worries! hope you can get it 
me too thx
that was it, i got it thx
Question: Did they add the duck recipe yet?
my friend is obsessed with ducks so I traded her mine only to lean I cant craft moreā¦.. Luckily she traded me back two of them. (I let her keep 1 just because š )
iām sure weāll get a recipe soon stares into the camera
The duckies are about as legendary as Frogbert and Cyl at this point, cāmon, S6
Goose courier pet? 
oh and have it honk every now and then
With a little hat and postal bag?
Untitled Goose Pet
Let it hiss at us if we don't give it a treat for carrying all our stuff
I can feel Auni's back shrink everytime I fill my sell box
OK but if we get a goose before a Plumehound I will riot
@hexed cloak sry moving here seems a bit better but something https://www.serebii.net/legendsarceus/photostudio.shtml kinda similar to both?
i just looked at the ac one and you can have 10 villagers in a photo (wow!) and it seems you can have different settings too which is nice
but i think if palia did this would have to be after a certain part, maybe when we get to the city. if they wanna upgrade the camera kinda like with what nikki/other games have with changing tints etc. maybe not at robust but similar 
A better hpoto mode would be amazing. Having inverted camera throws me off every single time
I just want my screenshots to be in a proper jpg. and saved with my graphics resolution. The default screenshots look like I took them on my razor flip phone in the 2000s
the sad thing is thats a better resolution than my flip phone lolllllll
does Sphere-kun include the chest or are they separate?
We'll know once S6 monetizes them into a plushie.
I use my Cyl Plush as a soft end table for other plushes
or one of those plush foot stools, or whatever those side poofs are
^^she cant give away that thats actaully the new NPC, obviously lol.
^I use them as ottomans too š„¹
What is this?
When was this?
Sooooo cute!! 
A glitch froma month or two ago when collecting a chest would made a giant snowball thing show up lol
that sounds so fun ! XD
I just had inspirationā¦.
A room in my house that is a temple to Frogbert, with a Priest Duck and a congregation of Cyls and Spherekun (obv need them to be added for this but you get idea)
We officially hit 30K wishlists akready guys please tell more people so I can get the RTB plush

I'll go on my sister's switch account later and wishlist it
Quick question, for the wishlist event happening. It says discord prizes... How does that work??
I think they will be added to the custom emoji list
6% of the way!
The prizes for discord are stickers iirc
I've just wishlisted on my old Xbox and PS accounts
Kind of sad we're getting the Flutterfox plushies again instead of the Nibble variants at 500k 
What are the Nibble variants? (Also my brainrot kicked in because I just stareted the first episode of Loki today and was like āPalia X Marvel?!?ā lol)
Nibbles the pluishie and the Earth drake pet are similar designs
Oh my word I need one now lol
So people thought we'd get the other drake designs in Nibbles form but alas, was not the case
ahah im obsessed with my dragons LOL i have almost all the colors of them
The 500k is kinda a disappointing reward since you can already get 3 of the 6 plushies in-game 
Which brings up the question, are Drakes dragons or lizards? Are the related to Maji? I need to know! (Gotta go to the lore threads now lol)
Drakes are dragons since they have 4 legs
If they had 2 legs, they'd be a wyvern. Dragons don't necessarily have to have wings since myths and lores have wingless water dragons and such
I dont know enough about mythology š¢ Thanks for the info
It's okay! Just don't call the wyverns in the Monster Hunter series dragons otherwise you'll be witch-hunted by the fanbase 
I did the same thing for Xbox. I do not see it in PlayStation when I search.
Use the link on their latest news message, takes you straight to the site
Palia is a (mainly) plot/home decoration kinda game but I really wish that we could customize the houses even further, like put stuff diagonally. Add 2 or more rooms to one side of the house and make it so it doesn't have to be right in the middle. Have the ability to make tall houses/2nd floor or even a basement. Circular/hexagonal rooms.
Yup! Posting this here for visibility as well: https://discordapp.com/channels/809856101326913567/1135680460777869332/1367261035286761615
So a while back I accidentally asked Hassian to be my Shepp and now the option isnāt there anymore how do I get it back?
He wasnāt level 4 friendship when I did it, now he is so now he can be my Shepp
should maybe pin this in sixer tracker
might want to search/ask in https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1135680726491201566, i think iāve heard of this happening before but iām not sure how to fix it/what to do. folks in there are super helpful. hope it gets sorted out!
Not sure if this is the right channel, but today I use Hodari's nickname of Hodaddy, and a couple of other players warned that S6 bans people for that. Is that accurate? Is our loving nickname truly a bannable offense?
I've never actually heard of a case of that happening
granted I just sit my butt here in this discord channel but I haven't heard anything at least
I feel like S6 would've censored it if they didn't want the community using that nickname.
This is why I ask
it would be a bit hypocritical if they did imo
but i do think itās usually best to err on the side of caution when it comes to in-game chat.
if for no other reason than some folks might not know the nickname and therefore not know what you mean!
Lmao for every 'air' conversation choice to flirt with Hodari, it borderlines on harassment in my eyes
You can't just say to a man 'lemme feel them biceps"
I barely hear about bans happening at all, let alone for a nickname widely used by the community on official spaces lmao
Okay, thanks! Just wanted to be sure. I appreciate the input.
that too lmao, and I def feel S6 has played into it in the past too 
Yeah I kinda figured as much, immediate bans with no warning seemed so extra, especially given how much S6 jokes and memes with the community.
I'm going to keep using "Hodaddy" and "flowcaine" until/unless I receive an official warning
wasn't there an interview or something early in beta about how s6 totally gets the thirst for hodari, they knew people would want to romance him and it became clear when he got the nickname of hot daddy in the office? or am i misremembering
the hodari youtube short š«£
iām not sure if someone said it in an interview? iāve seen folks here say that thatās how heās known around the office at s6, but unsure the nickname has ever been officially confirmed.
(although the youtube short confirms the sentiment š)
Oh god i forgot about that one 
Pardon me, the what?
Well, that explains so much
elithesia delivered in their reply, but i just wanted to say that this is from the studioās official youtube, so⦠yeah. i could maybe see an argument for not allowing it in in-game chat? but⦠they have never been particularly shy about him
Yeah I'm gathering as much lol. Currently having fits of laughter.
(well, not shy once they made him romance shape
)
brodari is a thirst trap ||and i totally understand why, ngl||
They might as well have used the dvcre pedro pascal edit with hodari ngl 
Where do I report inappropriate behavior in game?
i have a kind of silly question that doesnāt matter, but iām wondering what the consensus is; is jinaās hair supposed to be afro puffs, or just textured hair? iām drawing her and i wanna make sure it looks right
pardon i have not seen this do you have a link?
⦠asking for a friendā¦
Yea chats weird I get reported for my tv in name every once in while at least itās only warnings š
Still canāt wait for elderwoods tho
doesnt look like afro puffs to me but i think her and some of the other characters in the game are very black coded so i don't think u can go wrong with either stylization
Wait i dont know if you found it already but prob best I dm it to you cause i dont wanna risk getting bonked LMAO
it's the first thing in youtube when you type just "dvc", I just tried it out of curiosity š
i am not responsible for this 
ciri LMAO
i'm pretty certain they used Pedro Pascal's line from Kingsmen in the beginning too 
can we count Reth's ||rickroll|| though š¤£
Omg i wasnt expecting that first thing before coffee. LOL lord i need coffee
Are you asking if her hairstyle is "textured hair in two buns" aka wavy or curly hair in two buns or "afro puffs"?
Going off of her photo in the reply you got from Huntress, she doesn't have afro textured hair, just thick curls.
Don't put too much pressure on yourself & have fun drawing āØļø
thank you! i thought so i was just worried it was like intended to be afro and i just couldnāt tell ššš
It doesn't look like the other coily hair in the game, so I think it's just meant to be curly.
@violet copper I do apologize for the ping
But out of curiosity 
Was it addressed that the Big Frogbert Plush is already in game?
& it's the Bigger Frogbert Plush that is "unreleased to date"
Solved
~~As well the: Waiting Hekla Sticker, Partyup Kenyatta Sticker are default stickers 
Then: Trade Offer Zeki Sticker in the 100k tier is given to all players via an Accomplishment for obtaining all of the stickers
~~
Yeah i was currios aswell cause the stiker is tide to an achivement and i dont like it that they give them out cause this is lame
the stickers are for the discord, they are community discord rewards
Ahhhh biscuits - it does say that too XD
I can read I promise š 
Though the first part of my question... still has yet to be addressed
Bruh I canāt stand Tamala
To my knowledge, there are 5 sizes of frogbert and we are releasing two of the previously unreleased sizes.
It's so nice to be able to ask questions like this.
Thank you for your work LacieāØļø
Of course š Happy to hear and happy to help!
Was it just a typo then?
Thank you very much for taking the time to respond to my inquiry. 
while I have you, if you wouldn't mind linking that message to the #šāsixer-tracker
just so it's archived & others like myself don't pester with the same inquiry.
Do you know if wishlisting the game from your signed in account on the Xbox website counts?
I don't really manage the sixer tracker, but if one of the mods feels it's appropriate to pin it, happy for them to!
I believe it should if you are wishlisting it on Xbox š
But this is from the website. Not the console itself. As long as it's my account?
I think so! To the best of my knowledge š
Okay thank you!!
No prob š
Just going to extend a welcome to you, Lacie. We've waited a long time for you and I hope it isn't too overwhelming! š
Thank you
Really appreciate the warm welcome!
i wish we could buy items in bulk at the in game store registers
i also wish we had more things to do with renown because i've progressed so far that i don't have any use for it any more
We definitely need some new renown things to spend on
after maxing out your focus and focus bonus and buying all the things, idk what's left
At least they raised the renown cap. So many people wasted theirs waiting for more things to spend on
it's now 9999
yar we had this a long time ago, they added some stuff to keny's register but that was short lived, now we're back to nothing to buy (and still the only way to get it decently, is via levelling)
kenyatta or kenli?
kenyatta/keny
guys how do you make money easily in palia? all of my valuable stuff gets used for crafting or temple bundles -_-.. i dont think ive ever had more than 7k at one time
Early game - fishing
Mid game - farming and mining (starstones sell well but I think they got nerfed again?)
Late game - pickles and jam
Just what I did. I'm sure other people have more lucrative methods.
thank u so so much !!!! ive been selling starstones occasionally .. im slowly getting to the point where i can make pickles and jams now
Essentially what Tempest said, though if you want to avoid fishing or gardening at first, you can also try cooking parties. Seek for free roles that recquire no ingredients first (like oven or spreader in cake parties) and then you can move on to stuff like joining sashimi or sushi parties and overprep with rice/garlic.
And of course the passive income from pickles and jam.
I would plant crops, spend all day and night breaking every mining node in bahari, come home sell, some, keep some then water my plants. Ths bugs that pop out from under the nodes sell well too (if they don't disappear into the ground first). Rinse and repeat.
I sell all my pickles/jams, I'll ocassionally run around chopping down trees only, then once my inventory is full, returning to sell off all the wood. Not a whole lot for the wood, but it slowly adds up. I've been doing a lot of fishing lately, have two left to catch, so I toss all of the fish into the bin to sell off as well, aside from the few I keep for cooking. And oh yeah, after going after insects just for silk thread, the insects get sold as well...unless I get a starred one that I don't have in my collection yet.
I was just never enthusiastic about hunting or fishing so I'd do a one hour cooking party and had upwards of 30k-200k. Depends on your playstyle really.
Hunting aggravates the crap out of me with the teleporting creatures. But fishing was my bread and butter early game.
overprep at parties with epic fish
I was lucky enough that I got blueberries really early (pre farming level 10) so I could start accumulating those for cake parties 𤣠I had over 1k of them at one point
sadly i cannot think of a more efficient way to make money than overprepping at epic fish parties
but once is all said and done you can walk away with something like 200-300k worth of gold
common fish using glow worms do net you about 150 gold each
I've yet to do a cooking party.
I have not played this game at all with other people.
you can sign up on palia party but OP spots for epic fish parties fill up really fast
i think there's a hard limit of something like 25-30 people on a plot
i'm so close to net 10 million gold
I'm not comfortable with having to download an app to find parties.
There are some plots I can't go on as a Switch player so I just don't bother. I know some people specifically have Switch Friendly plots though.
it's available on a web browser
ive only bug hunted with other people so im excited to eventually get big money
It's very efficient but I know not everyone has the willpower of being comfortable to do so. Aside from the issues with plots that make switch/laptop users crash. Again, it depends on the persons playstyle. I'm not one for grinding in this game so the epic fish parties were great when I wanted to make quick money.
You don't, it's a website.
regular grinding maybe will net you something like 20-50k
Yeah but I know there's people that prefer going the long way.


