💬│palia-discussions

[west marlin]

THIS
Okay like why are they not making the 'glitch' building just the default functionality? Clipping gives you so much more freedom and creativity but it's locked behind such an annoying gimmick
Like imo they should go 110% into building and just give us freeform building 😭

[dry swift]

I bet you a lot of those kids that grew up playing games like MC ended up being engineers too 😄

[west marlin]

Seriously let us just toggle clipping on please

That one change would elevate palias building to a new level fr

[dry swift]

I'd also like more functionable furniture in Palia like a dairy churn for making butter/cream/cheese.

[molten yacht]

Hopefully after elderwood they’ll look into that. I remember there was an issue with people somehow getting into other people’s plots and stealing things, so they added the height limit and the way fish get stacked

[west marlin]

Oh that's some classic palia lore

The good ole days

[molten yacht]

I’d love to decorate the top of the fish tanks again. Having that little square in the middle isn’t enougghhh

[polar elbow]

what I would want:
-a free placement mode where it allows you to clip and float items to your hearts' content
-a "precise placement" mode where you could drag a furnishing along a single axis
-the ability to resize and freely rotate objects
-more control over color channels, even if color options are limited at least let people select a primary and secondary color of choice instead of preset "themes" that dont even match each other
-the ability to terraform terrain in your housing plot

at least that much. if you like palia for the decorating, maybe take a look at PSO2:NGS it has all of the features I listed above in its decorating system and more

[dark moon]

You know what would go great. A kaiju size duck

[dry swift]

Who would you rather fight? A Kaiju-sized duck or a Duck-sized Kaiju?

[warm python]

⛲ 🏃‍♂️ 💨

[dark moon]

Duck sized kaiju

[dry swift]

You know what I'd like Palia to have? Trading. We should just be able to trade everything. Yes, everything.

Quest rewards? Trade em. Plushies and tato pods? Trade em. Bored and want to start from scratch again? Just trade your tools to some newbie. Tired of being level 200 fishing? Just trade your level with someone that's level 200 cooking. Surely nothing could go wrong.

[proven dome]

No but like really, those useless empty chests could be someone else's treasure!

[dry swift]

And I think you should be able to build a massive wall around your plot with those empty useless chests!... for the right price of course.

Also, hear me out... Palia should do their next collab with a pillow company so that we can have something to scream into whenever a game-breaking bug goes unfixed for 6+ months.

[wispy lance]

Shure, if ur still around. Should have just tagged me there 🥰.

Was a bit mia xd

[fast sonnet]

Am I crazy or is this not supposed to be placeable on a table? I could have sworn I've seen pictures with it on tables and stuff

[azure swift]

when is the new map out again

[olive carbon]

According to the latest, all we know is they're "tracking toward a Q2 release" https://palia.com/news/mini-dev-blog-zlc

[umbral lynx]

It is or was... Decor item tags have been broken for awhile someone should add it to the list of broken decor (and fact check me since I deleted)
There's alot more thst aren't place able as they should be

[wispy lance]

It's a bug

I thought they said they will fix the things in the list 🤔. I have to check tomorrow to see what is still bugged and upload my list again 😅

If you know the flick method you can use that to place it

[normal saddle]

Love how the only endgame Palia has other than ✨Capitalism✨ is constantly broken where we can't place the pretty virtual items how we like

[pale ridge]

Hey Palia- creators!
Is there a way to fix the lagg and continues disconnecting for those whom play on Switch-consoles?
(Apparently it’s a common issue- thought I was the only one at first 😣)

[torn kindle]

Hi, S6 doesn’t monitor this Discord. Best way to reach them is raise a support ticket

!support

[opal cypress]

Here's a link to the Player Support: http://support.palia.com/

[pale ridge]

Thank you 🙏

[fresh leaf]

There is also some troubleshooting you can try in the meantime as well as ensuring that you’re playing on internal memory and not on your SD card, that you’ve cleared your cache, playing docked can help reduce more than in handheld mode, and others things.

(I’m sure there’s a command for this as well, I’m just not sure what it is)

[opal cypress]

🎉 Palia is now available on the Switch! 🎉

• Watch the trailer here: https://youtu.be/2nXlsDQ28mE
• eShop Link: http://palia.info/NintendoSwitch
• General Blog: https://palia.info/ns-launch-reveal

[fresh leaf]

Not that one…. lol sorry

1. Power Cycle the Nintendo Switch: Performing a soft reset on the Nintendo Switch console can address lagging issues during gameplay. Here's the procedure:

Press and hold the power button for at least 15 seconds.
Select Power Options, then Power Off.
Press the power button again to turn it back on after the screen goes dark.

2. Install System Update: System updates often include performance enhancements and bug fixes. Once the installation is complete, the console is likely to restart. It's crucial not to interrupt this process, as halting the update mid-installation could potentially damage the console.

Open System Settings.
Navigate to System, then System Update.
Allow the Switch to check for updates and install if available.

3. Clear Cache: Accumulated cache data can affect game performance. Clearing the cache for Palia frees up space and resolves potential conflicts, leading to smoother gameplay.

From the Home menu, select System Settings.
Scroll to Data Management, then Manage Software.
Choose the game and select "Delete Save Data," then confirm.
Afterward, select "Archive Software" and confirm.
Navigate to "Downloadable Content," delete extra content, and select "Redownload" to reinstall from the eShop.

4. Check for Corrupted Data: Corrupted game data can cause lag and stuttering. Deleting and re-downloading the game, along with checking for patches or updates, helps eliminate corrupted data issues.

Navigate to System Settings > Data Management > Manage Software.
Scroll down, select the game, and choose "Check for Corrupt Data."
Delete and re-download the game, clear its cache, and check for patches.

5. Reinstall Palia on Internal Storage: Installing Palia on the internal storage ensures faster loading times compared to external storage. Internal storage provides better performance, benefiting overall game navigation and experience.

Install Palia on the Switch's internal storage for faster loading.
This is especially beneficial for game performance and navigation.

Oof. That’s a lot. I copied from email. Sorry!

[olive carbon]

There's no command for switch stuff by the way at least not that I know of

[fresh leaf]

Thanks! It might have just been a direct thing from the paliabot that I saw and assumed it was command activated

[static lagoon]

I would love to be able to lay down different elements & paths outside (water, sand, etc.)

[fresh leaf]

Terraforming would be amazing

[fast sonnet]

What's the flick method? 😮

[static lagoon]

I couldn't think of the term, thank you! haha but yesss

also, do you think singular items will ever be a thing? like loving a head piece but not wanting to buy the whole outfit

[warm python]

It's been asked for for a very very very long time and no dice

[wispy lance]

It's a glitch method to place items in tight spots or where you generally can't sometimes. Doesn't work on switch.
You can search the term in YT, a video would be more helpful

[fresh leaf]

For switch, you can “gourmet dessert bowl” trick to place a builders block inside a table (it will likely stick out just a little) and then place the cornucopia on top of that and just surround it with dishes to create the illusion that it’s not there. Obviously would be better to have it directly on the table but if this is a specific aesthetic you’d like to achieve now, then you can try this.

[wispy lance]

yeah but not an item like the cornucopia (or what's its name 😅)

[fresh leaf]

I have it placed on a builders block as it acts as a floor for that particular item

[wispy lance]

oh! I see, smart

[fresh leaf]

I don’t necessarily want to do it with every broken item, but this is something I can deal with for the meantime

[civic mauve]

I think those ideas are very nice for a single player game... but for a MMO? it might break the fps to a point of no return xD

At least the terraforming

tho I do dislike that the stones we get at the begining of the game in plot dont fit the ones we can buy as much... and the platforms dont have grass on it

[brisk spruce]

terraforming can be done without ruining fps

[tardy lynx]

am I the only one having issues with purchasing zekis loyalty club? it just sits on the "validating your purchase screen" until i click the back arrow

[olive carbon]

Hey there, are you know steam? If so, follow these steps
#🦋│issues-discussions message

[glacial knot]

[fresh leaf]

I accidentally triggered that one 😂 I meant for something else to happen

[glacial knot]

oh LOL

[floral otter]

what i think would be cool more farming and/or gothic style clothing, i wanna live my goth farmer dreams!

also more caves creatures

[hard basin]

Nothing Major, only delay weather lighting after exit out of certain accessible areas. Horror vibes :v

It does persist after game reset.

[swift token]

I like it! Looks cool! Lol

[dark moon]

It's Walter's evil cousin , Dalton Dark

[dark moon]

I'm having fun giving the bugs names, I feel like they go to a prestigious bugging/debugging academy , to learn how to keep developers on their toes

I love it!!!

[livid lagoon]

It's been in the game for a few months already. At least since the white screen of death update iirc, probably longer. Incorrect order/timing of loading and showing UI elements. The white usually is the background image for village loading screen not having loaded. It happens with other stuff too, but since they ain't white they are less noticable.

[tacit garnet]

are we aloud to ask peopel to see if anyone can fill a request here, because i need one giant Kilima Stingray and i have looked for a nother one for 30 irl hours

[olive carbon]

Absolutely, so youve caught one and just need another? I have a spare regular one, you can add me and request

[tacit garnet]

yes i just need a regular one

my game name is Kimchee

[nimble gulch]

Can I just say that I loathe the requirements for parties at maji market for the stamp pages

Like I have a bug that doesn't let people invite me to parties, so I have to try to make my own party. I'm on switch to typing out an offer is more effort than I feel the need to put in, so I wait for someone else to ask about a party before inviting any excess people to my own, just so we can all have a party, and then when someone else calls for a party, someone will leave my party to say they need another party bc the other party has more people like we don't all get the same amount of tickets for the group bonus regardless of how many people are in the party

Sigh sorry it just makes me upset that some stamps require parties to such a high extent like chapaa chase

[vocal spindle]

Question re plushies...
Does the proudhorn stag beetle really exist!? 🤣 Seems like it doesnt

[desert lotus]

whats a good way to get silk?

[fast sonnet]

I have one :3

[fast sonnet]

Catch uncommon and up bugs

[olive carbon]

All rare and epic bugs have a chance to drop silk threads
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Silk_Thread

[summer rock]

What is the point of the spam pot game? How on earth is that supposed to give you more coins?

I guess I don't understand how you win or how the game ends if your just flipping cards to just discard them

Ohhh okay that makes way more sense. Thank you for explaining!

[dawn pollen]

Hi !

I have some questions for you !

Palia or DISNEY DreamLight Valley ?

Because, on a first place I love PALIA, but now … I have A LOT of bugs. Like I can’t play 5mins with a bug. And I have finish the history quests..

I have some impression that they not gonna add some quest for the history..

P.S: I have never play DLV but I think about buy it.

I play on switch

[obtuse harbor]

I like ddlv, it feels like a lot sometimes tho. Especially with star paths that you have to have moonstones for. If you don’t feel like spending real money on them, they’re kind of time consuming to earn

It’s definitely good as far as having things to do. I started playing when it came out and haven’t finished a lot of it. New characters/quests are always being added tho. I’ve never played it on switch so I can’t tell you how it is, specifically for that

[cunning mulch]

Why am I unable to make this? spoiling for potential spoilers? IDK

[wispy lance]

It says u need an additional station. You need an oven.

[void sierra]

I play it on the switch and I have no problems with it. Just laggy sometimes

[fresh leaf]

Hello! So when I first started playing DDLV it was still fairly early in their development similarly to where s6 is at with Palia.

DDLV crashed every 2-3 minutes on the switch, I was smashing that save button every time I did something. It was great for cozy gaming which is what I was looking for after switching from PVP MMOs. Then the gameplay started getting locked behind paywalls and that became very discouraging considering the game wasn’t fully complete yet and there was no multiplayer option yet. So it was you running around on limited resources trying to make the best out of it. Switched pretty quickly to ANCH, finished that in entirety, switched to Stardew, got tired of waiting for the update console players already had and then found Palia by mistake.

For a free game, it far surpasses my expectations and being able to play with people all over the world is an added experience because I can’t be “bored” as we all just hang out and cause chaos to the chapaa populations and swarms of bugs. Is the game perfect? no. But, the team at s6 is trying their best to give us the best gaming experience and I know there is a lot more work to get done, it’s just a matter of how patient the player base can be.

That’s all I will say for now, as if you wish to discuss ddlv we should switch over to #💬│off-topic-chat unless you’d like to focus on Palia 🙂

[austere latch]

Is there a way to see how many balloons you’ve popped in pop a chapaa at the Maji market? I have reached the 1k mark so now I’m not sure how many I have and I swear I’ve hit more then 2k but it’s still showing up that I haven’t reached it yet.

[mint sierra]

There is a stamp card called (pop pop pop pop pop) that goes up to 5k balloons achievement, each 1k checks a box, it's possible it is glitched, ss the server achievements showing your record, and keep those, if it still does not account for them correctly, I suggest write into support about it.

https://support.palia.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[austere latch]

I have messaged them thank you very much for the reply

[desert lotus]

can someone tell me what im missing?

[dull crow]

The grasshopper on the top right only spawns when you pick up dari cloves or sweatleaves and the other one is a butterfly that only spawns near the dragon shirne only between 03am and 06 pm there you can get this with a honey lure

[dense gust]

Just to confirm, the Switch and PC games do interact with each other, right?

[valid urchin]

does anyone know when the event leaves us?

[wispy lance]

Yes, and you can also play from both with the same account

[wispy lance]

!market

[opal cypress]

Maji Market will be running for a week, every four weeks.

Currently running from <t:1741075140:f> to <t:1741679940:f>.

[wispy lance]

And I think it should be back on Alpril 8 , but we aren't entirely sure until we get some updates

[last abyss]

Duskwing butterfly and spotted mantis.. i think! Use a buzzy jar and honey lure. Managed to get 4 duskwing’s from one lure

[rain scroll]

will palia ever add weather into the game?

[wispy lance]

Hopefully. Currently I feel like the game would crash if they would add something like rain 😅

[dry swift]

Game weather is a pretty heavily requested feature in MMOs for some reason when windows create the same level of immersion and are a fraction of the cost.

[loud axle]

Man it's been empty in here lately. 😦 hopefully with the patch there will be some activity! I need entertainment!

[dry swift]

Also it doesn't help that most of us have moved on to other games and don't give much thought to Palia itself anymore.

Exactly, not much to talk about when we only get actual updates once a month.

[loud axle]

Naaaaah we just need more plushies and recycled RNG content

[dry swift]

We've already beaten the "Wouldn't it be cool if Elderwoods did x?" dead horse with a stick a million times.

[loud axle]

Yeah I've only seen a dozen threads / discussions about how awful it is

[dry swift]

I see a Palia update, then I see updates on the other 3-4 games I play and I realize how much S6 is just grasping at straws at this point to artificially keep player retention up. It's just sad to watch and I'd rather spend my time doing something worthwhile now. Why should I be excited that they added the RTB plushie in the game when other games are giving me actual content I can get immersed in?

Do they want me to clap when the premium shop has gotten a new outfit for the 4th time this month while skills have remained untouched since Alpha?

I'm not going to give them laurels when they're doing the absolute minimum to keep Palia going short of putting it on maintenance mode.

I'll give EW a try for the first week it's out but I'll most likely stop playing again because other games will have come out with 2-3 major content updates by then.

[loud axle]

They say it's only until Elderwoods but... What's after that? Can we look forward to the next area in 2028?

[dry swift]

They might see player numbers increase for a little bit for EW, but it's not like it'll change all the flawed systems in the game itself.
It's not like all those returning players are going to magically open up their wallets and spend $100 on the cash shop.

My guess is that the majority will play for a month, then go back to whatever other game they were enjoying.

[west marlin]

I'm hoping theres something new and fundamentally different in that update because I fear a new map to do the same gameplay loop just isn't enough

[rigid latch]

hi

[summer dew]

Welcome to the kick! xD

[noble stratus]

crash error you too ?

[olive carbon]

!maintenance

[opal cypress]

• Scheduled maintenance at <t:1741622400:f> starting <t:1741622400:R> to address an issue where Caleri, Elouisa, and Hekla are not found in their usual spots around Kilima.
• You’ll receive a kick from the server that you’re playing on, but you should be able to hop back in shortly after.

[noble stratus]

😭 i was busy cooking sushi , and crash in middle of first 25 sec

[summer dew]

At least they waited until after Market events.

[noble stratus]

after took me 2 hours to find 5 dari clover because i am stubborn i dont want do request on it

[summer dew]

I rarely cook. It's all about the kimchi stacks.

[noble stratus]

speaking of errors ..
anyone got from quest ,
the 1 skateboard, orange,
and can not place anywhere...?!
or what i am doing wrong ?
check picture

[olive carbon]

You're not doing anything wrong, it's an item with a bugged placement tag, it's broken right now

[noble stratus]

the one on wall set as 3 . it is one item all working , tiny one on floor cant figure out ...

[warm python]

Honestly I'd be surprised... They'd have to add something new and fun enough to really keep people grabbed and playing for more than just collecting plushies and I'm not sure if that's on the agenda

[noble stratus]

all this time i thought i missing the specific furniture wall to place it in ..
thanks a lot for specific .. i leave it in storage

[waxen mauve]

They also said there would be gameplay updates in the last six months/during the time leading up to EW and there haven't been

All of that falls under in game events, not gameplay features, to me

Gameplay features in that blurb from the dev blog are separated out from in game events and quests, even

But we have had no new gameplay features that I am aware of

[warm python]

Yeah those are just events, none of those are gameplay updates

Nothing about how the game is played has been updated

Changing how the game is played

new mechanics, new systems (i.e. say they put in animal husbandry)

[waxen mauve]

Which makes me seriously question that we will see gameplay updates in EW. A new way to play the game would be a gameplay update, like keeping livestock or crafting dyes to stain furniture, or making clothes.

Magic spells have been hinted strongly but we still haven't really been able to do much of anything with it

[warm python]

Well I doubt we're gonna be making clothes for a long time if ever

I'm curious if there will actually be proper gameplay updates in Elderwood, I do want to hope there will be and that's why the game's been on maintenance mode for the last year, but...that's giving them more credit than I'm honestly easily willing to at this point in time

Some form of magic would be most likely I think

though to what end, I have no idea

maybe an alchemy skill? idk.

[waxen mauve]

There's a couple ways we could get access to magic in game but I would also want that magic to do something new and not just be another way to hunt

It's very frustrating having so little idea of what EW is going to entail, when so many of us are basically hanging on to the game with that/the roadmap in mind.

[lyric night]

isn't the term gameplay features defined vaguely anyways?

anything they add is a gameplay feature in the end, story, new furniture, events

[loud axle]

In this case, no news makes me think there's nothing worth reporting on.

Every other game in early access I've played shows off their upcoming content.

[warm python]

I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to story as gameplay, it's content, not gameplay-specific content

[waxen mauve]

Not when they separate it out from quests, in game events, experimental content, and QOL. That means "gameplay features" is not defined as any of those things. Which means it's something else.

[waxen mauve]

I'm just not sure if it's the incompetence of the comms that's at fault or this, that there just isn't anything to report.

[loud axle]

It's unfortunately always been the case with S6. They are very tight-lipped about everything.

[waxen mauve]

Which is really not good for business, and I don't know why they think it is. Like you said, other games in early access don't operate this way for a reason.

[loud axle]

Even during old ask the teams, FAQs, etc. the usual answers were "we're not ready to talk about that yet but trust us it's gonna be amazing!"

[warm python]

Yeah it's baffling that they've barely said anything about it, which adds fuel to my thought of it eventually going to be completely underwhelming

You wanna excite the players, give them morsels over time, show off what you're working on, keep people's interest

instead, nothing, so people just shrug and leave

and ESPECIALLY in a "beta"! you don't completely zip your lips in a beta! that's when you say MORE things! which again another reason I don't consider this game one

[loud axle]

Yeah I have never seen so much hype turn into a wet fart so quickly as they managed to do with Palia.

That open-beta launch was... Something.

[old dirge]

If people are interested in (some of?) those (though fairly outdated at this point as well as vague) https://support.palia.com/hc/en-us/sections/7474069473684-Ask-the-Team-Archives

[waxen mauve]

The cynic in me doubts EW is really coming any time soon, and expects that what's more likely to happen is they'll keep wringing every dime they can out of new skins until the game goes under and then throw up their hands bc it's clearly not their fault people didn't stick around for EW

[warm python]

Obligatory FFXIV mention: if I see a live letter or dev post or something, even before a new thing has come out, talking about upcoming things, it gives me an urge to play the game then even before the new thing just out of excitement and the game's now on my mind

[loud axle]

Days since Relika mentioned FFXIV: 0

[warm python]

[loud axle]

♥️

[warm python]

[waxen mauve]

Obligatory Coral Island mention: they've issued 5 developer diary posts in the last week, detailing what they've been working on each of those days. Including gameplay updates, that they've been working on the upcoming multiplayer mode, and bug fixes.

[warm python]

But yeah lmao it's wild. Every other beta I've been part in is EONS ahead when it comes to communication and transparency. the only one that wasn't was like a three day technical server test. this is. not a beta.

and I can't wait for them to finally label it 1.0 so they and others can stop using that stupid excuse.

[lyric night]

yeah honestly don't understand their secret keeping, like sure they probably want to do a big surprise 1.0 release and all but huh?
they don't even need to be specific

[waxen mauve]

This is what the full game is gonna look like, tbh. I don't think 1.0 is going to be different.

[warm python]

How many people are even gonna still be around to care if they save everything for one big shot

I know this game isn't dead or anything but you need to like, actually keep people invested and interested? they do not have the playercount, reputation, or trust to be able to hold all their cards to their chest

[waxen mauve]

This is just sort of standard for early access games anymore, sadly. They get stuck in beta hell indefinitely because why work harder when they've already figured out how to make money?

The number of early access games that NEVER climb out of EA is too high

[warm python]

Yyyyyyup

[ember lynx]

anyone wanna summarize what was going on here? xD

[alpine cliff]

Palia is a good game that is stuck in beta forever because of greedy publishers and a 1.0 release will most likely never come. Even if it did, it probably won't save the game because the damage will already be done.

[fast sonnet]

Yeah they are really going to have to knock our socks off with content and gameplay improvements

[ember lynx]

how so? i genuinely did not think there were so many issues with the game. whats wrong w it?

[fast sonnet]

At this point I think its less that there's stuff wrong with the game and more the fact that the devs and everyone are being so tight lipped about what they're doing to fix it/add to it and on the rare occasion we do get any communication, it is either vague as heck by design or straight up dishonest

Though there are plenty of bugs that have been a thing for a long time and still haven't been acknowledged

[alpine cliff]

Game breaking bugs with every patch, persistent bugs that have been around for a LONG time without being fixed, an endless stream of paid cosmetics over earnable items and meaningful gameplay, lack of any meaningful communication about what's coming/being worked on or fixed.

Don't get me wrong, i love Palia. I've been playing for a long time now. But there are serious problems that aren't being addressed.

[ember lynx]

thats fair honestly. its def a bit messy, but i love the game. i hope they are able to up their game with the elderwoods update. which also, has anything else been said about that?

[alpine cliff]

I love it as well. That's why it's so upsetting to see the current state of the game. We haven't heard anything about it for quite some time. We don't even have a release date for it, that I'm aware of.

[dark moon]

They gave Q2 as the time frame,so april to June

[waxen forum]

https://palia.com/news/mini-dev-blog-zlc

I think this update is not that long ago

[waxen mauve]

There's tons of stuff wrong with it, such as what Handle pointed out. But there's also just the endless list of promises broken, accessibility issues being straight up ignored, and a prevalence toward releasing monetized content over gameplay content and other things we've asked for (like accessibility fixes)

I love the game but at this point I haven't played it in over a month, and before that had stopped playing it for several months, because the gameplay simply plateaus once you hit a certain point and there's nothing more to keep you coming back except gambling and skins

[ember lynx]

yeah, i never thought about that. i will say though with it being a free game, i dont mind the option for paid cosmetics too much. but whats some stuff that the devs have promised? im out of the loop

[waxen mauve]

Just as a recent example what we were talking about above is from a dev blog about seven or eight months ago where they promised there would be gameplay feature updates between then and the EW release. There haven't been any.

Another recent example was a patch a while back mentioned a VFX toggle for skins, which would be a huge accessibility fix because players who are sensitive to effects like sparkling lights can't turn off the visual on their screen for other players' skins, making it basically impossible for them to play the game. The patch notes mentioned it, then it was removed from the patch notes without comment, and when people asked for I believe months what was going on with that, they were ignored.

We finally got an answer about it, and were told that that fix never existed, and that all the months of people asking about it didn't result in that issue coming on the devs' radar to fix. Which is a huge trust issue, because if something that tons of people have been asking for for ages hasn't been so much as acknowledged, it makes it pretty clear how low a priority accessibility concerns are for S6.

[alpine cliff]

It's always nice being proven wrong, I do wish we had more substantial information on it outside of a soundtrack preview...

[waxen mauve]

Yeah it's honestly hardly an update

[umbral lynx]

Rip vfx toggle

They also said they would stop using content in promotional videos that players couldn't have but... Yeah still do that

[waxen mauve]

There's also the body types/sizes they promised, the improvement in communication and delivering on feedback, hell even the overall concept of this being a "cozy game" built on community just gets frequently trampled by the general direction S6 has taken things

[waxen mauve]

Yep, this too. But we got three (3!!!) ducks! 🙃

[graceful granite]

I was just about to pop in and say that. I loved how we got the dev blog update telling us "we heard you, we won't do that again" and one minute later... they did it again.

[umbral lynx]

And some plushie we didn't care about and no update on the grow it out decor we miss... Like if it doesn't work just tell us instead of us finding it in the videos

[waxen mauve]

The plushie updates instead of doing things that would actually make our gaming lives better is a frickin meme at this point

[umbral lynx]

I'm just waiting for the next patch when they do it again

[waxen mauve]

"oh, a new plushie we have to grind an insane number of hours in the game to have a hope of getting, yay"

[umbral lynx]

No one cares about the plushies we cared about the misleading which is basically a constant... But it's fine guys they have us 1 tint and a snail plushie all forgiven

Not like there's what 12 13?tints? What they gonna do mess up and give us 1 tint each time

[waxen mauve]

The tint is such an insult

[pearl wave]

it's ok bugs don't exist

[umbral lynx]

And I know I'll get wrong but they leaked stuff in the last patch notes and the discord had to tell them about it before it was removed

But they also leaked stuff before and then pretend it didn't happen instead of making something out of it... Everyone makes mistakes how you handle it could be good marketing for them and make them seem more normal

It might generate some hype for whatever this has become

[graceful granite]

Don't get me started on that tint and snail, istg.
But yes, our main problem is, to keep it constructive: communication. We have a very huge problem of communication. And you don't grow or keep a community with only new players. That will not work.

[pearl wave]

And they keep making more cosmetic outfits when we want bugs to be fixed

[waxen mauve]

Exactly. Bc here's the thing:

If stuff you promised turns out to be unattainable or not as short term as you thought....just tell us. Explain.

[umbral lynx]

It's a bad move we are aware people who make cash cows can't fix the bugs but maybe have them slow the heck down and make it look like you are actually trying

Did they ever explain tishs house tour having unobtainable decor in it? Or did they just pretend to not see

[waxen mauve]

I've never heard them explain this. And to this day it's still stuff you can't get, right? And in colors we don't have?

[graceful granite]

Us players: how about a season pass? We could support you while having stuff to work on for the season to get cosmetics!
Game: ... here's the Zeki club!

[umbral lynx]

What a worse we say anything and try to flip it as a funny... Yeah well we get some poorly worded post like we try to have fun with game breaking issues and even the ones that cause actual harm but hey ho no fun allowed

[waxen mauve]

I was willing to buy a skin now and then to give the game money back when we were getting regular updates, but now....?

[graceful granite]

I'm still upset about the Pal Tech decor that some of us can't craft because the recipes were not in the first patch and we have not seen any kind of log in reward with those items crafted at least.

[signal hearth]

[umbral lynx]

Wouldn't know games been unplayable since December (technically since the trading update cas I don't enjoy pain)

[umbral lynx]

How the paltech is still broken blows my mind. I started in March last year... It was a issue then and a issue now

[graceful granite]

I haven't bought or crafted the spa furniture exactly for this reason. Fool me once, not twice.

[waxen mauve]

So much just remains broken

[pearl wave]

They know how we feel about it and they still acting like it's didn't exist in first place and keep making more problematic issues. 🤣

Exactly

[umbral lynx]

Been aware for like a year I think the paltech will be longer running issue than the snowballs

[waxen mauve]

This is where more regular comms from S6 would help immensely.

[pearl wave]

We made a big fuss about the snowball and it's take them that long to finally fix it / make it bearable. Why will we bother to tell them to fix another issues when we literally have to be careful of what we going to says toward s6

[umbral lynx]

Fixed snowball creates new ways to flash bang people

[pearl wave]

That's yikes 😳

[umbral lynx]

I just yeeted and deleted after a dev said I was outta luck for lny since they couldn't fix it

[waxen mauve]

Cause like, if there's still an issue with the snowball, we don't know if it's being worked on. Afawk they could have written it off as done.

[umbral lynx]

So nothing to do in paylia for another year

[waxen mauve]

paylia

[graceful granite]

I mean. Something we have talked about in other communities is their new weird focus on glitches. "Share your screenshots and we will share them with the community!" (those screenshots will 95% of the time be glitches Switch users can't do) / "We saw your talent, have that new landscape!" (read: you can build your underground stuff now!)
And sometimes, when you really want to get pessimistic with the game, it makes you think "they won't fix the game since we do better with glitches"

[umbral lynx]

We tested it in Jan and most did get the final fix (since the Dec one only worked for some players)
But now the sky and plot skins flashbang you

You have to glitch to even place half the items which shouldn't be considered a fix or a work around... I shouldn't have to cancel or ghost or flick to place a candle

[graceful granite]

Yup, glitch an item because they broke it last update and you can't place it normally

[waxen mauve]

I'm so unsurprised that they've decided to take the tack of glitches as features.

[umbral lynx]

Like call me mean... I can see elderwoods being the same... Same npcs... Same zone layout (big open empty areas that never have anything in it other than a few spawns if that... Lacking life)
But it'll just be like bahari but with more purples of the promo images are anything to go off (ref: the dev blog they talked about elder Woods and had some concept art for)

[loud axle]

So did the hot fix do what it was supposed to or are there new fun issues now?

[graceful granite]

I would even say: you know what, fair, let us mod the game then!

[loud axle]

I'm expecting:

• One new NPC
• One new creature to hunt
• One new wood type
• One new ore type
• A handful of new bugs / fish
• A handful of new quests

I'll honestly be shocked if there's a new gameplay system in it.

[umbral lynx]

You forgot the all the connection issues, missing text, unplaceable items and general bugs

[loud axle]

Well that's a given!

[umbral lynx]

[waxen mauve]

Given we've been promised gameplay feature updates in the interim between last year and EW release and haven't seen any, I'm assuming that they consider what we've received so far "gameplay features" and we won't see any real changes

[graceful granite]

And we're still in beta.

[waxen mauve]

Gameplay features:

[loud axle]

Regarding the need to glitch items for decorating plots...

I asked during early tests if we could just have a free-form option to place stuff. Let us overlap objects and place them wherever. Like... What's the harm?

The snap-to-grid is nice when you want to make things look neat but if I want to put a plant through my table, just let me 🤷‍♂️

[umbral lynx]

Ah well twas a nice distraction from the winter... Back to flamingo farming since once human has... Farming in it ya all keep being awesome and let's hope they make some nice changes for the masses

[graceful granite]

But in all seriousness, I'm legit worried. We've all seen the ads for the knock off of Palia*. Palia's community will go above and beyond to make that game successfull. Including playing with the most awful bugs ever (you still owe me pain meds for the sudden white screen in december)
And I had hope, even if I didn't trust it much, with the last dev update. Like maybe they really heard us and got our point and will start 2025 much better than the last two years.
*Edit: this is me editing. I was talking about the ad we got months ago when we had no infos whatsoever about the said game (that i'm trying really hard not to mention just to respect rules). It was a trailer. The look of it was close enough for me to have DMs about people telling me about it. So you don't see it? Fine. People still see it anyway. And yes now we all know from whom this is and yes we can discuss about disservice.

With a missing duck on purpose and a Zeki club no one asked about.

[ember lynx]

why is this a big deal? /gen. I understand about everything else being mentioned but not this

[ember lynx]

the what now

[ember lynx]

I hope theres not another temple quest I hate those

[graceful granite]

Gaslighting. Dishonesty. The snail gate is still memorable. We've all seen that snail plushie and we got messages that nope, it was the lil snail from the market. We're not stupid. And it's not just the snail plushie. It's the duck recently. It's the tint. It's phrases and words. It's the VFX thing. We have screenshots and everything about it and what we get is "nope, you saw nothing".

[ember lynx]

ah :/

[ember lynx]

also, im expecting Talia to appear and have a Vander from arcane arc. we probably will have more sifuu and haissan quests/storyline because of it

[loud axle]

Are you referring to Infinity Nikki or My Time at Evershine? 🤔

[graceful granite]

second one, i didn't want to mention the name but here we go

[ember lynx]

uh oh

[umbral lynx]

It's miss leading marketing like how the game doesn't show as beta till you open it no pages show it as such
Like here's a nice item but you can't have it enjoy.
I theory it's fine but they tend to not say "assets showing may not be currently available for players"
I regards to it was in a trailer, we were told no no that's not a garden snail that's the snail from the claw machine... Their reaction was less than appropriate

[loud axle]

Pathea has been getting better with each game they've done, it'll be their third so I expect it's gonna be great.

Though I don't think it will scratch that "MMO life sim" itch people have still.

[umbral lynx]

In a ideal world they would add a lil *we currently have issues with making this item work line and it would be fine imo but they don't

[graceful granite]

I mean we had a similiar message for the duck, right? Like "it wasn't supposed to be available to you". Then why it's on the picture?!

[umbral lynx]

Things aren't always going to work and that's OK just tell us, especially when you use it in marketing people wouldn't mind and probably be more excited for when they finally get it

[ember lynx]

I handt heard of the new game yall r talking about but it looks good. I dont see why we should be comparing it to palia tho. theres plenty of cozy games with a similar theme like stardew

[loud axle]

I think the comparison is in the art style and gliders.

Though I don't know how much of that is just due to Palia using a lot of base assets / textures and such. I imagine a finished Evershine will look much different than the trailer.

[graceful granite]

I'm not sure we're allowed to talk about it but just: there was an ad that looked a lot like our game we love right now. And you know, it's like seeing a game with lil monsters you get to have in balls and go have adventures and maybe some fights and you understand it's not Pokémon.

[ember lynx]

fair enough. but also theres several things that look like one thing but aren’t related. like for example Kimba the lion. a japanese series about a lion that came out way before lion king but gets labeled ss knockoff lion king bc lion king is more popular

[graceful granite]

What I was saying is that: we will abandon that game if we ever happen to have a better version of it somewhere else. I wish us that. I don't wish it for the devs of S6 because yarn it, I love that game even with (wave hands) everything. But that will happen. I will start stressing myself out. Like. Communication.

[ember lynx]

yeah I see :( its sad but true. its making me thing of the whole yandev situation

[graceful granite]

I'm pretty sure they know it, I'm pretty sure they got enough feedbacks to know about it. But Palia is good for two things: storyline and cosmetics. If we can't have one of those two things, it's going to be complicated to keep the community together and like... united.

[waxen mauve]

We're sure getting cosmetics.

[ember lynx]

I personally think that with the elder woods update we will have at least one big storyline tying kenyatta sifuu haissan and talia together

[graceful granite]

Last patch was last month. We should have infos on the next one soon... ish? Maybe tomorrow? Thursday? I mean, we even have lost our usual calendar.

[loud axle]

Next week I believe.

[waxen mauve]

I'm honestly gonna need a lot more than a single storyline update after we've waited all this time for anything substantial. And if that's not coming, fine, it's just not the game for me anymore. I'm sure some folks will keep playing it.

[graceful granite]

I really hope because the end of the prologue was. Uhm. Disappointing. And we have so many backstories we would love to know more about.
Let me meet Hodari's family. What's with Eshe. Is Subira going to be a hero or a traitor? Lil teasers here and there won't hurt. Like that one note lost near Einar around this autumn. I keep it spoiler free just in case.

[ember lynx]

wdym end of the prologue? u can dm me or mark it as spoiler

[graceful granite]

SPOILER - End of Prologue
||We placed the gardener at some spots. Fine. I was hoping for a big plot twist like, we helped the bad person, we've been manipulated, something! Then Subira is trying so hard to frame Tamara. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Tamara but... Subira, you're sus as hell. And that's it. We had nothing to work with. No plot twists. No notes. No new lines for Tamara. No weird things with Subira or anyone. Like. Just. Yup, that's her, bye.
Temple of Wind took me more time than this! And it was sooo goood. Even the last temple was good! But that end of prologue was really just a sad sidequest to me.||

[ember lynx]

oh yeah, I remember that. didnt really care for that tbh im more interested in the characters’ individual lore

[warm python]

Glancing back and Evershine is no more a Palia ripoff then Palia can be called a ripoff of any other open world cozy game

This is Pathea's third foray into the My Time series and their games have been plenty successful, they have zero reason to want to "rip off" a game doing worse

[graceful granite]

But it was supposed to be huge. Or at least bigger than what we got. So yes, I'm really hoping we have all hands on deck for Elderwoods because Holy Mollymauk, that storm is coming.

[ember lynx]

thank you! i hadnt even heard of this hame before today but calling it a ripoff seems a disservice to me

[peak spear]

Ive noticed that the Chapaa Chase has caused a lot of heated discussions in game. 25 chapaas alone for the stamp card is not an easy task. Feel bad for those on Switch trying to do it too

[graceful granite]

I really should edit but at this point, I'm gonna say it one last time here: I was talking about the trailer. Now that we have more infos, of course it doesn't look much like it. But at that time, it was very close.

[warm python]

It's an absolute disservice. It's an upcoming game in an established, successful franchise.

[graceful granite]

Oh yeah that thing can go straight to... wherever it wants. I'm not touching it ever again.

[ember lynx]

im playing on my laptop and even I cant get past 10 💀

[peak spear]

Earlier I got 23, but ohhh boi were people very upset about it

[warm python]

Alright back to my Finnish crime show

[ember lynx]

also has anyone noticed that the muujins have been especially glitchy lately?

[marsh depot]

Always have been

[ember lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[marsh depot]

At least they didn't go extinct like last year

[ember lynx]

bro wat

[loud axle]

They were Thanos-snapped from the game for a couple months

Right after they were introduced. I think it was either two or three patches?

[graceful granite]

S6: we patched climbing
Us: still in walls and grounds

[dry swift]

S6 is the living embodiment of the Surprised Pikachu meme.

[marsh depot]

Something along those lines.

[graceful granite]

It was right after the lunar market because we had no soy sauce at Zeki and I had to get the muujin dish for Eshe thanks to other players who did a cooking party with me. It was something to experience that's for sure.

We did got a revenge when the plushie drop update happened, poor muujins.

[thorn palm]

You think the Premium Store should have a Wishlist? Like, say you see something there you want, but can't get right away?

Mark it on a list so you can look at it later, and not have to scroll through the whole store.

Gives you time to save Premium Coins or something or wait till it's on sale, that sort of thing.

[hollow crescent]

ooh that be a good idea

[bold fern]

Is there a specific plush trade channel still? Could someone link it for me if so? Please and thank you 💜

[opal cypress]

Here you go https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1326268508417429584 .
To participate in this channel you have to agree to the Rules by reacting to [this comment](#🤝│trading message ).

Make sure to "Add to Channel List", to have it visible at all times.

[bold fern]

Thanks bot lol

[snow remnant]

just checking in to see if there was any sixer tracker comment around... noticed it has been super quiet since they dropped the cloud update

[dark moon]

Tbh with Q2 approaching and the recent earthquake after the fire, I think they are busy trying to stay afloat

[snow remnant]

I'm in California. what earthquake you talking about?

Fire in LA and surrounding areas is not going to stop anytime soon sadly, the real fire season is approaching but that is something we're used to all over the state

[dark moon]

The one on the 9th, around Oakland

[snow remnant]

Just reading about it, nothing new for the area tbh

Cool to know they have ppl working around Oakland btw

at least not everyone would be in LA

[swift token]

I've heard the best place to find a Gossamer Moth is around the the area Rememberance Garden.

Is there any other specific spot?

[dark moon]

Idk if they have people working around Oakland, but if they are issues that can cause delays to the office. Or affect personal lives, I believe it would delay the team a bit

[dark moon]

I usually pop a lure on top of leaf hopper hills for the gossamer veil moth.

[swift token]

Okie dokes. Thanks!

[marsh depot]

Not surprised given certain events that transpired tbh

[warm python]

I know there's at least a portion of the team that's remote but overally I like to not assume what is/isn't affecting the company and its employees when it comes to things like that, unless there's an official mention it's anyone's guess

[cunning mulch]

ummmm what

[warm python]

Little contact from the company isn't anything new, anyway

[west marlin]

Yeah I mean the people from s6 who are active in discord have been active before during and after any of those events

Didn't seem to make much a difference I mean California is like where I live and always on fire were just used to it 😂

[fiery perch]

it was a very minor one, that ppl probably wouldn't even feel. it was a 1.3

[hearty wind]

lmao this has happened to me -- i had to leave the area and come back

[lethal granite]

yeah i haven’t heard anything about a major earthquake in california recently

[warm python]

So did the bug they did maintenance for get fixed?

[umbral lynx]

im gonna assume yes? the bot is gone and havent seen much fuss about it

[warm python]

I saw a few comments in the twitter post saying it wasn't so I was curious, tho I only sit in this channel so idk if anything was said in general

[umbral lynx]

dw i took the hit for you
its pretty late? so maybe people aint around but they were broken hekla and some others i forget their names i think they got fixed in the delayed down time

[warm python]

yeah iirc it was like three NPCs borked

[umbral lynx]

celery and elou something odd combo to break but eh

[warm python]

lmasdkjh

damn discord doesn't have a celery emoji

[umbral lynx]

i dont recall the names due to the lack of character any npc has
they are just copypasta of age old troupes and lack any reason to interact with them

basically
does it have a guild store? yes? talk to it once in awhile. no? then never talk to it and forget it is even a thing

[warm python]

I remember like half the names from chillin' about in here but not all, espec the ones not tied to a store

[umbral lynx]

i know einar since its a name i use daily irl

[warm python]

LOL oh?

[umbral lynx]

i never claimed to be smart
but yeah pretty common in norway

[warm python]

ooo the more you know

[dark moon]

Wild,I got an alert for it in Arizona, but it barely affected California

[lethal granite]

you ok?

[dark moon]

Besides fighting chococat and being sick, all that affected me was a dust storm

[lethal granite]

was hoping you would be feeling better by now

[dark moon]

I feel worse, but thanks to the fishing gods Naz and Rogue, as well as Fern. Om better at fishing in my time of struggle. And I'm finally keeping my focus up. No more player level 145, with fishing lvl 16. I'm fishing lvl 18 now

[lethal granite]

why is fishing 😭
(fern witnessed me having panic attacks over losing ancient fish AND catching it. we don’t deserve fern.)

[dark moon]

Like real life, I find eating to be an absolute chore. Like is annoying I have to keep eating. So all my guild lvls are low

[fiery perch]

yeah, that's really strange, cuz again it was just a 1.3 haha

[dark moon]

Only send me alerts if frogbert rose from the ocean

[old dirge]

yeah, i get alerts for anything over a 2.5 and did get a couple for the bay area (2.5 off the coast and 1.6 in richmond [Oakland area as mentioned above as potentially impacting Sixers] as the proper measures after the fact) and one for the LA area yesterday. Looking at usgs california-ish had 3,407 earthquakes in the last 30 days of any magnitude, but only 21 over 2.5 in the last 7 days with the biggest being a 4.3 in Avenal (central-ish) on feb 13 and 4.1 in malibu on mar 9

in california most people won't register anything below 3.5 as an earthquake - could be mistaken for the washer or dryer running, a big truck going by, a slammed door, or something under that - and problems start around 4.5ish? like things falling and brittle/failing infrastructure having problems.

So none of those in the last month would interfere with development of Palia like the fires and debris slides in la could.

a train 2 blocks away just rattled my apartment more than the last earthquake i noticed

[wispy lance]

Late, but just so no one continues the conversation above, a reminder that we are in Palia discussions

If anyone wishes to add anything to that please move to #💬│off-topic-chat

[small crescent]

Im pretty new, but is there a reason why 90% of all house plots you can visit is just a bunch of stuff placed (often outside). I just vote 'very cool' and move on, but I am confused as it seems less like people doing things with their plots and more just 'look at all my stuff' which.. cool, but also.. not really. Am I missing something and its a community thing?

[modern rock]

some people might want to show off their in-game items, but i think for a lot of people they aren't that interested in decorating and just want to unlock nameplates. spending a lot of time decorating your plot doesn't necessarily help with that - most people will give a reaction on every plot they visit whether it's elaborately decorated or not.

[signal kayak]

some people will even get votes for completely empty plots

[modern rock]

i'm not nearly as negative about most palia stuff as some people here, but this is one of the worst systems in the game imo and one i completely ignore. it was supposed to spotlight one of the game's best/most popular features, decorating, not turn it into a tedious grind for exclusive nameplates

[signal kayak]

and even then it's not guaranteed to be done

also hated how toxic the house tours became, people demanding screenshots of you on their plots in order to get a return reaction. don't know if that's still going on or not

[wispy lance]

There are different tabs there at touring. Which one have you used?
I usually pick random and jump fast from plot to plot until I see one that I like/want to explore.

[signal kayak]

i was very vocal back when they first came out, but making the house tours as achievements that are based on how many of each reaction you give (keeping the same number needed or even increasing the numbers would been fine) instead of relying on other players and a weekly cutoff was my suggestion

[small crescent]

Ive tried a few different ones, the 'new' ones are usually brand new people but at least they often have tried to make their plot look nice.. but yeah, I will continue to try different stuff- I think Im just a bit sad that most of it is just hoarding-shows 😮

[kind sail]

Do you think they will implement a system that will allow you to sell everything, i have so much furniture and boxes that could be sold for money or tickets, even if it goes for cheap?

[wispy lance]

It's weird that I usually find built houses 🤔 .

They are also people that do ikea plots maybe you ended up on those?

You can try looking at the people that are posting their plots here #1267963034110922904

Wrong link xd

[small crescent]

Thank you 🙂 I'll check it out. I really like the building/decorating aspect of the game and I like seeing neat things others do 🙂 Dunno, I like the labours of love

[wispy lance]

I was hoping for a bit more openness before as well 😅

[kind sail]

talking about plots wish we could have a few more farming plots the apple trees take up so much, and if we can build anywhere on our land would be great lol

[wispy lance]

I think we would end up doing way more farming than I would want to 😅.

I wish we had apple trees as deciration

[kind sail]

Yes or have the apple trees not need a plot to grow like the other trees but can still farm

sorry just woke up lol catching up on the gossip

[wispy lance]

It's about cash income as well. Farming would overpower the rest and they don't want that

I think they expect us to not farm all at once 😅 and to do Rotations I guess

If I can shift click fertilizer or idk any other method to fill up a square faster I wouldn't complain having more farming plots 😅.

But adding 1 by 1 fertilizer is killing it

This game relays too much on clicking things 🤣

[dusky rivet]

ikr, maxing out fertilizer (100) on each plot is very, very click heavy unless you're fertilizing the apple trees which only takes 10 clicks

[wispy lance]

yeah we should be able to add on th entire plot square if we wnat to Q_Q

[shadow echo]

Hello people !
I haven't played in a hot minute, has there yet been any new actua gameplay update yet ?
i'm talking NPCs, Friendship/romance quest, Mainquest or new areas ?

[signal kayak]

nope, not yet, elderwoods supposed to come out some time q2

[shadow echo]

Last main gameplay update had been Reth n Co 5th leve friendship quest that i had polished up

Well i just loaded back in and the only quest up is "Strange things afoot" that got reset so i guess i'll log back off and wait another 6 month ^^'

[ivory vessel]

that'll be the prologue finale that ciri mentioned, yeah

[shadow echo]

the one cutscene with the ||magical girl staff in the sky night temple ? || (spoiler for what i think you're talking about)
?
Yup, had seen that, that thing still taunts me.

[ivory vessel]

yes. and then your quest tells you to head to the night sky temple to meet jina, now, right? if you do go, there'll be a couple more quests, and then you'll finish the prologue. it's a half hour thing, tbqh

[shadow echo]

woohoo !

guess i'll at east polish that off before going back into hibernation ^^

[dense gust]

Can you gift items to friends in Palia? Or coins?

[torn kindle]

You can gift items once your friend has requested them (they must have had the item previously in order for them to be able to request it) No coins tho.

[dense gust]

Ahhhh dang

Like, good that there is a way, kinda sucks there’s so many caveats but oh well. No biggie

[torn kindle]

https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Requests

[dark moon]

Players can request up to 4 items a day and those requests can be fulfilled by other players. However they can only request items the have gotten already. No coins or furniture sadly.

You can "trade" stickers and plushies, which require an exchange of items, but if you use a placement item you both have the item of, you can use that to gift them stickers/plushies

[dense gust]

No furniture?? 😭

Stickers and plushies tho that’s a win

[dark moon]

Palia's template is working hard to achieve your items yourself. So at the moment, no furniture.

[dense gust]

Ahhhh, radical self-reliance. I understand

I learned that at a festival (iykyk)

Although Palia is also about gift-giving…. Why no furniture gifts to friends? 🤔

[Billy Ray Cyrus voice] much to think about.

[olive carbon]

There's far too many things tied to individual achievements, quests, and skill leveling to allow for furniture trading in the way the game is currently structured

[dense gust]

That’s my two cents done for the day lol 😆

[dense gust]

So radical self-reliance

I understand now… [walks away like Chayne]

[olive carbon]

Mix in a lil "we (the company) want you to play a lot cuz it's a free game and we need play hours to show that we're in the green functionally as a game so we make things a bit hard and you have to do most of the things yourself so you play for a while focused on these tasks" and yeah! You got it

[dense gust]

I don’t know jack about squat about game development so this is really cool to know!! TIL 🥰

Thank you all 🫶🏻💞

[shadow echo]

Just logged back in and finished up the very end of the prologue quest that make you go through all the temple ANOTHER time and you tell me that the next Plot centric NPC is prolly gonna be ||Tamala || ????
bleh

[wispy lance]

She is just a key probably

[tranquil musk]

Hi everyone... I finally got my RTB plush today. I have been hunting them since the patch came out non stop... I caught 44 before I got the plush..... How does people already have 10 plushies it seems so impossible to achieve... I love butterflies and wanted lots of them but I think I am done with it now since it made me depressed struggling that much...

[shadow echo]

yeah, a whole half an hour of touring the exact same places the last 12 quests have been about and a randome "yeah they just left actually" on to wait another god know how long for an actual update

i'm not interested in grinding for the illionth new plushy so i think imma drop the game till some actual gameplay comes out again

[wispy lance]

Besides trading, I have seen a lot of huge parties going on, and they usually catch a lot. #1143270926394335282

[mint summit]

Do you guys buy your materials or make them yourself? I’m still new to the game but I’m not sure if it’s worth it to wait for crafters or if it’s better to just buy things like planks and bricks and stuff, especially later in the game when you’ve made a good bit of money.

[wispy lance]

I mostly craft everything, leave the crafters overnight and have materials ready after.
But I also buy if I'm not in the mood to farm.

Some are more expensive than others,like I would not buy silk... I would go and farm it.

[hollow crescent]

i did a bit of both near the start (sometimes now) if i really want something and don’t wanna wait for pieces to make

[wispy lance]

Also at the beginning I would strongly suggest to farm rather than buy, you need a lot of gold for other things

[mint summit]

Okay!! I’ve been using the crafters for mostly everything but I did buy fabric to complete a quest (I don’t think I have a way to craft it yet), so I was wondering what other people did. Thank you :D

[wispy lance]

!loom

[opal cypress]

Tish

How do I get leather, fabric, and silk?

Make sure you have the loom crafter - the recipe can be purchased from the Furniture Guild Shop. Once you've reached level 2, talk to me and access the Guild Shop for the recipe!

Or you can even buy the leather/fabric/silk directly from my store! (Look for the cash register.)

Leather comes from animal hide, fabric comes from cotton, and silk comes from silk thread obtained from rare bugs.

[ember rampart]

Is it only to me, or the game got more buggy?
Suddenly, today I got stuck on my plothouse and completely stuck at hotpot game, being unable to join a table or do anything else.
Is someone else that experienced something similar?

[torn kindle]

Yes on a daily basis, since forever

[ember rampart]

For me was pretty decent, that's why I noticed these things today ^^'

But true, the game has its own issues

[warm python]

It's buggier for some people than others and over different points of time, but overall yeah it's kind of a bugfest

[normal saddle]

My conclusion is that the Dragon just has her favorites

[loud axle]

There was just a hot fix yesterday to make the NPCs appear correctly so I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch more bugs popped up because of it.

[warm python]

Hi Roan o/

[fiery perch]

Roan

[final rampart]

Has this game been optimized well on steam deck yet ? Any improvements?

[loud axle]

👋 Hiii sorry just popping in at work!

[fiery perch]

Hope work has been going alright! 💕

[loud axle]

It's been so quiet in here. How are things?

[loud axle]

Fun day so far! Hope you're having a good day too Ori!

[fiery perch]

Just been focused on MonHunWilds, honestly, and just have rarely had energy to peek into paliacord and chat as much as I usually do, lol

[fiery perch]

Best I can respond with, is linking to a pinned msg in the Linux/Mac/Steam Deck support thread in tech-help:: #💻│tech-help message

[loud axle]

Nice! I've been on a Metroidvania kick, played through Ender Lilies and now onto the new one Ender Magnolias

[warm python]

Ooooo nice

[fiery perch]

You'll have to DM me sometime on how those are!

[loud axle]

Lilies was pretty basic but Magnolias has been amazing so far, vastly improved a lot of my issues with the first one

[warm python]

Orii got me into No Man's Sky and I've been hooked tho on a break to watch a Finnish crime show LOL. but just chilling out here as usual out of curiosity and the like

F

[loud axle]

Sigh the bot is so dumb. 🙄

NMS? Not Final Fantasy XIV?

[final rampart]

Thanks homie

[fiery perch]

Won't say much more, since.. getting a bit too off-topic, but i seem to be great at getting people into games.

[warm python]

I'm still on a FFXIV break even though I will keep on yapping~

[weak wigeon]

why did they send ONE oak amber

[swift token]

Someone has a theory that it's for elderwoods and may be hard to come by 🤔

[torn kindle]

Spiraling ongoing

[fresh leaf]

So you can sell it for 350 coins obviously
This is a joke

[stray sluice]

I finally got a Rainbow Tip Butterfly!!! 😁 It's not a star quality but it's mine and it's going twords my wall progress!! No plush but that's ok.

[wispy lance]

Congrats 🎉, though if it's not star you can't decorate with it

[lilac egret]

Have you finished the temple bundles?

[stray sluice]

Ik but I'm not going to decorate with it. It's going towards the bundle progression in the night tempal.

[wispy lance]

Ahh!! I thought you meant like a bug wall on the plot lol

I forgot about the bundle

[wispy lance]

If that was a question for me, yes I did!

If it wasn't for me ill just move along 😅

[lilac egret]

i finished it too that butterly was the last thing i needed yes it was for you

[wispy lance]

I finished a long time ago, kinda waiting for more story atm. Elderwoods around the corner 💜

[brisk spruce]

no reason to talk without updates, can't go off topic

[wispy lance]

I bet they are busy with stuff

It feels like winter break

😅

[loud axle]

...a joke?

...they're so weird

[neat compass]

I'm American and I still never would have made the connection until they posted the video. I've never associated March 11th with 311 the band 😅

[fresh leaf]

It’s from before my time 🤷‍♂️ and I’m grandpa Parker around these parts 😂

[warm python]

What's this about amber?

Also why are they advertising the paid stickers on the Twitter without saying they're part of the cash shop

Idk whoever's in charge but this has been an issue SO many times

And brought up so many times

Man if S6 is allowed to be off topic why can't we /j

Thats so weird tho, to do that with no explanation?

Regardless yeah whoever's in charge of the Twitter hasn't learned from last time they did the same thing

[loud axle]

Has anyone pointed that out in this specific social media post? I just noticed pretty much every comment is just raking them over the coals asking for actual content at this point so...

[warm python]

Yeah, the two comments I saw were pointing it out it's actually paid content

From today

[loud axle]

I also just can't imagine that all this advertising is even doing anything

Like the numbers got bumped up a bit the last couple months but they're dropping again now

[warm python]

I wonder how big the EW bump will be and how long it'll actually last

[loud axle]

If I was trying out the game because I saw all these cool cosmetics being shown for it and then found out every single one of them was paid content... I'd quit cold turkey

[warm python]

Lmfao yeah

[fallow saffron]

[fallow saffron]

[warm python]

o/

[loud axle]

Depends on how much content it brings honestly. I'd expect to see a bump for at least that month, but if it's not enough to satisfy people... I think a lot of people have said it's gonna be what makes them quit altogether, so there could be a major bleed after.

I'm really hoping the lack of content over the last year means they have really been putting all their eggs into one basket and it's going to be amazing.

[fallow saffron]

I’m genuinely surprised that S6 hasn’t added paid furniture in game

[fallow saffron]

Same

It almost feels like false advertisement

[warm python]

It's inevitable. I mean theres paid plushies so

[neat compass]

Watch, that'll be the only way to finally get the extra furniture items/skins that the NPCs have

[worn snow]

i think the sales announcement on discord should have pictures, no?

[brisk spruce]

I imagine that would be helpful, I definitely don't remember the names of all of the outfits despite being here for the majority of their releases

[worn snow]

literally dont know what they're talking about

[hard basin]

How else they get you into the game and check

[brisk spruce]

fair point mortis

can't stop pumping those login numbers now!

[warm python]

[warm python]

Spirit Halloween SKU#1, SKU#2, SKU#3....

[hard basin]

Gotta break that 5 mil palians ahead of you threshold

[warm python]

it makes me laugh how inaccurate that one is sometimes

[hard basin]

At the very least could provide wiki link but nah those aren't official so hoping for official images in the next sales

[warm python]

Promise nothing, deliver less

[valid urchin]

not me crying over Auni's story, couldnt be 😀

[spare skiff]

I made a MH Wilds character based on my palia gal and she's so hot

[timid nest]

is the bug that makes the floor tile all the same size fixed? im actually waiting for it to be fixed before going back in the game cause im scared that it will stay like that

[lethal granite]

next patch, supposedly.

the bug has happened before and was fixed, so presumably they will be able to fix it again.

[turbid delta]

The grind to try to ||catch these epic fish for the fish bundle|| is literally making me want to quit playing lol. This is awful... is it true that the bubbles really don't increase any odds at catching more rare fish and only the star?

[dry swift]

Good morning everyone!

[fiery perch]

Morning Herp!

[dry swift]

How are you Valk?

[fiery perch]

I'm okay! Getting breakfast soon. Then will probably be back to messin' with games or something. How are you this morning??

[dry swift]

Great! Just trying out some brand new headphones I bought yesterday to see how the audio quality is with the music I listen to while I work 🙂

The noise-cancelling is so good I can't even hear myself type on my mechanical keyboard.

[lilac egret]

hello

[pastel shard]

Anyone else looked at the Original Soundtrack Vinyl yet? I was really excited to purchase it at first, but shipping costs (to Netherlands) is more expensive than the unsigned cozy edition?! I spend plenty on premium stuff, so I really cannot justify this amount of money for myself. I'm gonna have to let this one go.. So anyone outside US, prepare yourself if you want to buy this too.

Makeship was only $8.99 for maji dragon

[warm python]

Oh that's some crazy shipping. Even the merch for something I purchased going from Finland to the US a few months ago was only $20...heck,even the Squenix store which was notorious for its shipping prices was better than that

[fiery perch]

Only thing I can think of, is that theyre trying to have specific packaging to make sure the Vinyl is safe and doesn't get damaged via shipping

[normal saddle]

Would the recent Tarrif stuff have an impact too? or does it not count for non-comercial shipping?

[fiery perch]

Genuinely, no idea haha

[normal saddle]

Me neither, eyyy

laugh the pain away, laugh the pain away...

[umbral lynx]

Hmm that tax. Probably the companys shipping over just paylia things that's why I opt to not buy the physical copies since ahaha Norway

[marsh depot]

Depending on the country, might need to pay additional tariffs/taxes depending on the value of the product. High shipping costs might be due the shipping company used and transport method (shipping by plane being faster than by ship but more expensive).

[normal saddle]

ahh true, true

[fallow saffron]

the shipping costing more than the actual item

[warm python]

I thought it was bad when I had to pay $20 shipping for a $20 shirt but maaaaaaan lol

[surreal steeple]

Does anyone know what this item is? It looks like a perfume bottle but I can’t find anything about it on the wiki. Found it doing tours!

[olive carbon]

This is tamalas beauty cream and it's a quest reward for this quest!
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Desperate_Times

[surreal steeple]

Oooo thank u so much!!!

[fiery perch]

fern beat me to it. I was typing out what it was (called, how to get it) instead of a link hehe
ily fern

[versed grove]

Hey everyone! Has there been any new infos about the Elderwood update besides the one we had on dev blog last year?

[pastel shard]

Thnx y'all for allowing me to vent about those shipping costs

Totally different question now though, and I hope this is the right channel. 😅 I need help from a Switch (knowledgeable) player that can help me confirm the controls for cooking interactions. I'm a wiki editor, and recently started updating intermediate ingredients and other cooking related pages. One of the things I'm adding is explaining mechanics/controls, but I play on PC. I found some info on other wiki pages and also on youtube, but wanted to make sure I got the right controls noted.

So can someone please confirm the following:

• A button = interacting with cooking stations (adding ingredients, opening the interface to start an ingredient, and collecting baked ingredients from the oven)
• ZR button = making ingredients aka the minigames (flipping the pan, chopping, stirring and rolling)

[warm python]

Did I miss the clear communication about the ducks

[lyric night]

S6 missed it as well I guess

[prisma summit]

Yeah, they missed a few bug fixes too... XD

(But we don't talk about those... XD)

[lyric night]

50/50 chance that we'll get another mini blog tmrrw with the next patchpreview

bcs the regular blog updates are lacking as well

the monetization model blog talks about no fomo when it comes to the premium store

they never mentioned no fomo for anything else iirc

[warm python]

Looking forward to the preview for the next patch

[lilac egret]

Is it tomorrow?

[lyric night]

same same
sadly forgot to grab some popcorn from the store

[tribal jacinth]

im not really sure why they keep spending money making these things and not on staff to start filling the content drought that isnt furniture, potato pods and cosmetics but actual new things to do

[lyric night]

patch preview should be tmrrw yeah, following their usual schedule
nothing officially confirmed of course

[marsh depot]

Likely an attempt to both "promote" Elderwoods and diversify their streams of revenue, but agreed.

[tribal jacinth]

is the game really big enough where they would make profit on the time they spent making the vinyl

[warm python]

I don't have any alas

[marsh depot]

Doubtful, as most have stated here before the biggest issue with the game it's the lack of content, communication and overall direction. They're just seemigly trying to get as many resources as they can into EW and make some cash.

[tribal jacinth]

[lilac egret]

People also want content while waiting for elderwoods

[marsh depot]

My exact sentiment when I get better drops and an actual pity system in gacha games that make the grind more rewarding.

[lilac egret]

So after the elderwoods drops i hope there will be enough content to play until next adventure zone drops

[marsh depot]

Not to mention the shipping + taxes costs for players outside the US. I know if I ordered the vinyl it'd never make it out of the customs department.

[fallow saffron]

[tribal jacinth]

yeah, i dont feel much hype about elderwoods just because of how silent they are about the whole thing, cant really be hyped when last year had nothing of note after the last bundle stuff in that cave thingy

[neat compass]

I still haven't even done that last "prologue" quest they added near the end of last year because everyone said it was so underwhelming 😂

[lilac egret]

i think its time we get acess to ancient library

the quest kind of ended abruptly

and we only have suspicions about mysterious person

it lookg like final quest ended on a cliffhanger

looks

[lyric night]

I honestly don't mind that we didn’t get the staff bcs it would be like: staff? subira snatches it for research

I rather have the moment for the staff when we actually get it

framing what we got as the end to the prologue was a bad idea and they admitted that bcs its more like a setup for elderwood

[lilac egret]

i have feeling that hallway leads to ancient library

[neat compass]

I do very much want a staff. It hurts my soul a bit when I think about the super cool outfit they'll probably make to match that will definitely cost money 😩

[lilac egret]

Maybe it is part one of prologue ending story?

[lyric night]

we already have the outfit for the staff

[lilac egret]

But subira did mention a personal matter

[lyric night]

I meaaaaan, they did a new version for soothsayer and Pretty protector seemed pretty popular so another version for it would definitely possible

(at least the pretty protector is while still extremely pricey, better priced than most of the outfits when u want all colors )

[neat compass]

Oh yeah, I meant if there was a new one, like what Ciri said. An upgrade

tbh I need to look at all of the premium items again to brush up on what currently exists. I tend to avoid the premium shop page for obvious reasons

[lilac egret]

@tulip anvil The night sky temple mural seems to be important

@tulip anvil I dont know if anyone else noticed but i think that floor when we enter night sky temple and go in to pink staff area ,to me it looks like some sort of door like its split into 4 parts and it looks like flow going through empty spaces thats what i think staff will unlock

[stoic fractal]

Is there somewhere i can LF pots?

[wispy lance]

Pots?

[stoic fractal]

The pod plushies hehe

[wispy lance]

🍲

Oh!!

#🤝│trading

[stoic fractal]

Thank you! ❤️

[wispy lance]

Make sure u look at the pinned message to be able to write

[fresh leaf]

Hot take. I low-key loved every moment of it. (I know this was hours ago but this is where I popped in to chat lol.)

The end of the prologue personally filled me with hope, and got me excited for the future of the game. It was nice they altered the temples to show us new sides of them and following the mystery as it unfolds although not solved was absolutely amazing. A cliff hanger was definitely the best segway for us, players who have been here for a little while, as it prepares us for the next leg of the chapter. Not every story needs to be start, middle and end. They can be amazingly intertwined and depending on how fruitful your creativity is, you can speculate and discuss it with others.

Players who join this summer are not going to have the same experience we are all having here about the anticipation and excitement of “what is next” as they’ll be simply ushered into the next phase of the game. But in my opinion, it is and was a beautiful combination of the last several content patches being sewn together in a wonderful tapestry of wonder and adventure.

[fast sonnet]

What in the actual?

[neat compass]

Players who join this summer may not have the same experience we're having in regards to the prologue content, but chances are they'll experience it with any future content that S6 plans to add to the game. We've seen no indication that this slow drip of content is going to change after Elderwoods. It doesn't feel like Palia is on track to function as a live service game with a consistent flow of content. Even if Elderwoods turns out to be an absolute hit, what's next? Do we then embark on another years-long waiting period filled with monthly premium content drops, plushies, and the occasional furniture bundle? S6 mentioned in a dev blog that the reason content has slowed down recently is due to their work on Elderwoods. Is that what the future of this game looks like? One big drop every few years with a lot of bugs in between? I hope not, but that's what I'm mostly concerned about.

I genuinely would love to be wrong, but that's why I'm hesitant to put all my eggs in the Elderwoods basket. One drop of content, even if it's excellent, is not the only thing this game needs.

[fresh leaf]

100% and I totally see it from both sides. I just wanted to relay my positive experience thus far with everything as most things have steered more in a negative direction as of late. I hear the frustrations, I acknowledge the concerns and validate everyone’s feelings on everything. I just feel like the game for the most part has been significant for me, in terms of player-player interactions, yes we are lacking in the player-NPC department and of course main storylines and side quests.

[fresh leaf]

There is also now a hallway….

[lyric night]

same
ideally they've used the time to ensure they can deliver proper updates with and especially after elderwood
the drop of content needs to be consistent with a proper schedule for story updates etc. like we used to have them in the beginning of the beta
but that will probably not be the case, I'll gladly be proven wrong by S6 with the patches after Elderwood tho

[warm python]

Yeah, I think the big worry is that this is going to be "business as usual", them unable to deliver actual proper content in between bigger, infrequent patches with long dev times

[neat compass]

I hear ya. There are lots of in-game experiences I loved about Palia, and I think the world and the story have a ton of potential. It's why I'm still barely hanging in there. 😂 I would love to see this game ultimately succeed. I just think S6 has a lot of work to do, and it's difficult for me to envision how they'll be able to get back to the version of Palia that I was genuinely excited about when I've mostly seen a lot of regression rather than progression throughout the past year.

[fresh leaf]

To be fair, it’s very disheartening to see how many people are really experiencing these grievances and watching as a lot of you are losing hope. I totally get it. Perhaps I just have a little more sentimental attachment to the game right now.

Obviously, the game has a lot of work to still pump out, and I can see why a lot of people have lost hope or have put a pause on their gameplay– I really do. I don’t think I’m quite ready to give up hope just yet. I’m willing to trust the process until the process no longer is providing that same feeling I’m feeling currently.

[warm python]

They're gonna have to prove they can change as a company and no idea if that's gonna happen, and my hopes for that got more and more dashed every month

If they can, I'd be delighted, but I don't know if it's in the cards anymore

[fresh leaf]

I do believe there is still a sliver of hope within you tho, which is still something. You’ve been here a while and have been a great advocate for the players you’ve spoken to and listened to, and I’ve seen you interact with the devs when they’re here.

Maybe it’s just holding them accountable— but nonetheless, a great advocate

[warm python]

It's a sliver, but yeah. I really want this to be the game I was falling in love with back in 2023. I'm very jaded and disheartened but.... I guess we'll see what happens. and I do want a better game for my friends and the rest who are still active players

[neat compass]

It would be a lot easier for me to hold onto hope if it felt like S6 as a whole still genuinely cared. I know there are individual devs working their butts off on this game, but they don't get to decide how the company presents itself to us. For example, we've begged for more frequent, transparent communication and for bug fixes to be prioritized over premium content. Instead, we got a mini-dev blog that mostly gave us a lot of empty words, and we get weekly comms about premium content sales. I would so much rather get a weekly dev update even if it's something tiny like "Hey we heard the game is white-screening and we hate that and know how harmful it can be, we're working on it but it's super complex. Will update soon."

[fresh leaf]

No— I completely agree there with you all. We get the patch notes while they do patching. But if they could just acknowledge you here and not just what you see in the website (which many of us can’t be bothered to flip to and dig through a forum) then I believe half of that would be fixed

[neat compass]

I think their communications should be consistent across all forms of social media and their website tbh. It's not hard to do.

[warm python]

Yeeeeah. Not everyone can access this discord sadly

[fresh leaf]

Facts.

[lethal granite]

would appreciate clear communication more than anything atp tbh. the amount of times ppl have shown up here to ask questions like, is the new fishing outfit one you can fish up?, asking for clarity on how the loyalty program works, etc., plus things like silent retroactive patch notes editing… doesn’t make me feel great.

[lyric night]

the clarity on ZLC is ingame tbf
they basically answer every question in there I've seen ppl ask about

but yeah agree that they need to start the promised "leveling up communication" like yesterday already

[neat compass]

Come on S6 you gotta keep your focus bar full so you can level up faster

[marsh depot]

Discord isn't the best platform to communicate issues either tbh. At least certain ones.

[lethal granite]

i haven’t been able to play since the snowballs reappeared so i wouldn’t know. ty for the info.

[marsh depot]

Even Riot had to take a step back and listen to their playerbase because they were bleeding money and players. If only S6 could do the same and look at the bigger picture.

[warm python]

I will never stop hating the discordification of information/tech support/etc

It's a chat program not an information database ughhhh but I can go on for ages lol

[marsh depot]

Doesn't help their customer support is not great to say the least. Some of the responses I had seen on there would've gotten me fired in my old customer service job.

[warm python]

Oof yeah I've seen some. Rough ones posted.

[lethal granite]

i’ve been lucky and had good correspondence with them. although one of them shamed me for what i felt was an issue that occurred bc of — surprise! — unclear messaging from s6

i realize i may be the outlier there tho.

[marsh depot]

I only contacted support once for something I can't remember anymore. But when I worked in customer support, we would be told to go "exhaust all options" when helping customers and be sympathetic, which I've heard many people complain regarding S6's customer support (specially regarding snowball issues iirc).

[marsh depot]

Wouldn't expect less from S6

[lethal granite]

i fell for the “premium outfits advertised in a way that makes them look like something they’re not” thing. i bought several fits from that update, yet still found myself getting a stern talking to about being more careful about my purchases going forward. even though a TON of people made the same mistake and were in this here discord asking what in the world happened bc the promo material felt so misleading 😓

i’d never seen paid stuff get advertised in a misleading way (only stuff like furniture in promo mats that players didn’t have access to), so it felt really scummy to me. guess i shoulda read the whole patch notes 😑

[marsh depot]

In what world does a company think it's fine to tell a customer to "be careful about their purchases"... I don't usually condone the "the customer is always right" but

[west marlin]

I don't think it's purposeful, I just think there's a major disconnect between departments. I'm only giving that benefit of the doubt because the furtinture crafting catelog catfishes you just the same lol

[marsh depot]

Regardless, it's a serious mismanagement, specially if it keeps going unfixed. Wouldn't say it's purposeful either but still harmful.

[fiery perch]

They at least explained this.

Image description::
""Why does it seem like the game icons of several decor items do not match their 3D model?

The icons are often made from initial concept art of furniture, but because of various factors, the end result of the actual 3D/in-game object may look different. We are looking to update the icons to better match the result and to better set expectations.""

Source: https://palia.com/news/patch-169

[west marlin]

We absolutely should keep them accountable when it happened 💯

[west marlin]

Oh I had no idea! I'm glad they acknowledged it lol

[fiery perch]

(Idk how i remembered that was from specifically patch 0.169 notes, but uh.. good job random memory bank, i suppose )

[west marlin]

... Nice

[lethal granite]

i looked up the email from the ticket i made. it was def a response that was copy/pasted from an SOP (which i get, that’s the norm in tech.) but, like… why is your SOP phrased like, “bro, check ur cart before you buy smth” the way it was worded just felt gross and demeaning. i admit i should have looked into it more specifically when i made the purchase, but at that point i trusted the promotional materials to not be misleading. so it felt like such a kicking me while i was down thing.

[lethal granite]

it just felt really bad. i was one of many who made the same mistake based on how it was advertised. i don’t really care which department does what — they’re clearly very invested in keeping the cash shop going, and the way they marketed it and other premium cosmetics (such as the aforementioned fishing fit) just immediately made me not want to spend money on the game anymore. bc it was such a breach of trust for me, then i felt bad about myself like, “i should have read the entirety of the patch notes before buying” (which i feel is a legit BONKERS request of your customers, maybe that’s just me), then that feeling got reinforced by the CS rep basically telling me the same thing.

[marsh depot]

Even if, they shouldn't have pushed the fault on you if their advertisement was misleading. When we had to answer emails, they gave us a list of prompts to use but they would also exhort us to not make them sound generic and to always show empathy towards the customer, since after all, they're the ones you're relying on for revenue.

I don't even read patch notes for most of the games I play (let alone Palia) and I doubt the majority of players does either.

[marsh depot]

Ori remembers so we don't have to

[lethal granite]

orii the best

[fiery perch]

My memory bank just likes to collect random info

[lethal granite]

the amount of people flooding the discord after having made the same purchase under the same misunderstanding i had was enough to overwhelm the amount of staunch defender people who were like, “read the patch notes, duh!” and i told folks about it who don’t play the game and they saw the advertising and were like, “o wow, the mistake you made is totally understandable, that’s absolutely how it looks advertised.”

so, like… at least i wasn’t alone? like i said i’ve generally had good correspondence with their CS. that whole experience really turned me off of the purchasing side of things tho.

[warm python]

Ohhh yeah I remember that

Them badly wording things (as usual) was completely on them, not confused customers

Them either wording things horribly, falsely advertising, or profiting off of making things confusing/not giving enough info has been a thing for way too long

[marsh depot]

Such as the last Madrina's (keep having to stop calling them Madrigal) collab

[warm python]

Yuuuup exactly!

[marsh depot]

Completely understandable, I've stopped purchasing/supporting other businesses for similar issues. Even if their CS is outsourced, it really sounds like there's some lack of supervision or QA.

[lethal granite]

i wonder if you’re remembering what i experienced or if you’re thinking of a different occurrence that ended up in the same results

which

… isn’t great…

[warm python]

I think I'm thinking of the broom tool thing but I feel like there was something else... At least one something else. My mind has become mush over the months with all the incidents lmao

[marsh depot]

I had forgotten about the broom tool completely lol. I am glad I didn't end up falling for that since I was tempted to buy the outfit back then. I know people who did in fact purchase the tool thinking that was the glider. Definitely a misleading advertisement on their part.

[warm python]

Yeah a LOT of people bought the tool thinking it was the glider

[fiery perch]

Was going to say, the broom tool is the main one I remember.

And there was an issue somewhat? recently, about one of the tool-skins. "Serpent Touched". They have fixed that, though. But people wasn't sure how it was supposed to look in-game, since the preview image didn't match when you actually previewed the tool itself. (if that makes sense.)

But again, they fixed that one, at least.

[marsh depot]

I was hesitant so I waited until I could make sure. It was still very much on their part how they first announced it.

[lethal granite]

i’m not going to speculate on the whole studio’s structure tbh. just hope that they actually do hire someones to make their promo/official stuff come off in a way that doesn’t make people confused, feel mislead, etc. i wouldn’t expect my customers to read the patch notes/assume they can access discord tho, so… idk. maybe i just don’t get how they communicate.

||i bought the broom tool that is 100% what im referring to ||

[marsh depot]

I had heard (at least from here) that their CS was outsourced, but what I was commenting on was if it was/isn't, they need to do better by their customers. It's easy to pin everything on "communication issues" but they need to actually work on solving them, but then again I guess it's easier not to.

[lethal granite]

o 💯, i more meant i don’t know what’s going on in-house (which QA/supervision is generally not outsourced for, although QA often is so idk) and i don’t really wanna make any assumptions there.

the overall point stands, and im grateful that you’re here with your knowledge and experience with CS and can provide that context. the problem i have with s6’s communication is well-documented by many folks in this channel. it’s so unclear. they shouldn’t keep it so exclusive to the discord, it shouldn’t be random ppl from the studio popping in on whim to respond to players here, etc. but really, the communication from the studio to the players is so unclear. and it sucks!

and i’m bummed. cos yeah, it felt scummy to buy the witch tools and be told, “you should’ve read the patch notes.” cos, like, again… that’s not a realistic expectation.

maybe they should’ve advertised more clearly

[warm python]

hours late because I was forcing myself to finish an awful last season of a tv show but, yeah, agreed

if a few people make the mistake, it might be user error

if a LOT of people are making the same mistake, there is an actual issue somewhere

and with how many people had that problem, the responsibility lays on S6's wording

[lethal granite]

it wasn’t just the wording, it was the actual video promo too.

[warm python]

Yyyyup

And I just don't buy that they actually learned their lesson with misleading marketing after they did it again with the ducks directly after they said they'd stop doing it lmao

the jokes write themselves sometimes

I am very curious about how next patch is gonna go

[lethal granite]

i just looked up some messages i sent after buying the (apparently tool not glider) skins and saw that someone had messaged me about the new cosmetic before i told them about my purchase and it made me laugh

[warm python]

Ffff

[lethal granite]

idk why this is cracking me up

like, dang, they could at least magic an updo if they’re going to be so misleading in promo videos xD

it’s giving me some memories about that day too tho. like, i was in a meeting when the patch dropped, so i bought the tool skins cos… i was literally too busy to read the patch notes, and, again, apparently too trusting of the marketing materials…

[warm python]

oh my god lmao the bald patch.....

[lethal granite]

it’s cracking me up 😂

[lethal granite]

i feel like nothing as terribly misleading as that has happened since then.

but… the furniture stuff is… so crummy. literally right after they said they wouldn’t do that.

at least we got panic ducks.

[warm python]

Nothing as widespread at least but smaller things, like the furniture stuff, like not being clear about the dragon from the collab being for free later on, etc

also ksajhd panic ducks god for real

zero communication just panic ducks

[lethal granite]

panic at the ducksco

[pale ridge]

Hey guys sorry to interrupt!
But saw this birds nest right by proudhorns nest, right by the edge of E4- F4, and wonder if it could have to do with the new update that’s coming out?

[warm python]

no worries, you're not interrupting! we're just yapping

[pale ridge]

Oh good 😅

[fiery perch]

That's actually related to a different quest, that's already in the game, i believe? (someone can correct me if im wrong tho!)

[lethal granite]

i believe it’s for a friendship or romance questline

[pale ridge]

Oh okay!

[pale ridge]

Oh really? 🤔
Cause this is the first time I’ve ever seen it

[fiery perch]

it's been there since early open beta!

[warm python]

orii <3

[pale ridge]

Hummmm

[lethal granite]

it’s for a npc storyline. i just don’t remember if it’s friendship or romance. it’s ||tamala||’s storyline.

[fiery perch]

Hiii

[warm python]

no wonder I had no idea personally what it was, I barely talked to her khsadjk

[pale ridge]

Must have not thought about it or acknowledged it until now then. I mean if it’s always been there and not showing up in a certain quest line or so

[fiery perch]

Oh, no it's always there! It can just be easy to miss sometimes

[pale ridge]

Same!
I’m avoiding her heheh

[lethal granite]

nooo, let them panic! at the ducksco and join the quack parade

[fiery perch]

I remember seeing it when I started playing back in closed beta (but only remember seeing it when they went into open beta) and not knowing what it was for or from 😅

But i always thought it was interesting and cute

[warm python]

I didn't care for her enough to go that far out of the way to talk to her

[pale ridge]

Hmm… it was very see able rn so felt weird to have missed it 🤣

[brisk spruce]

||romance level 2, "a date with destiny"||

[pale ridge]

|| Romance lvl 2 with whom ||

[fiery perch]

🤣 Maybe you just haven't ran in that area before?

I know at least on PC, it was easy to miss though because on PC, it's hidden a bit with foilage lol

[lethal granite]

i recommend this strat

[fiery perch]

||Tamala||

[pale ridge]

Thanks 🙏

[pale ridge]

She’s more vicious than I am about my hot sauce intake on a Friday night!

[fiery perch]

I call her ||Traumala|| for a reason

[pale ridge]

Oooh

[lethal granite]

i think gifs are still unallowed here, which i’m usually ok with, but sometimes i have one that perfectly encapsulates my feelings and wish i could send it 😂

bleh at that particular npc, thanks at you for the knowledge.

[pale ridge]

Hehe

[fiery perch]

You can still send them, but it has to be like... as if youre uploading a picture. Embeds don't work, so the gif button on discord wouldn't work

[lethal granite]

o i know! ty. i just only felt like going as far as looking it up in the gif search, not trying to find it, save it, and upload it xD

[fiery perch]

Oh!

[lethal granite]

such a frustrating npc. they could be SUCH a good char. the ||hassian|| storyline was completely unnecessary. i angy about it for many reasons

[brisk spruce]

yeah I'm not fond of her either

[lethal granite]

my laziness is often mistaken for my incompetence. and vice versa.

i’m just a comfy lil enigmatic agent of chaos, don’t mind me c:

[lethal granite]

they don’t exactly give you any reason to be. which is lousy. i’d love a strange witch in the woods char…

[celest maple]

This feels like a weird thing to talk about, but does this game have a paid subscription? I took a glance at the in-game shop, and it seems to be only cosmetic stuff. It's surprising to see an MMO with such a low-key monetization these days, especially a free-to-play one.

There's the daily login coin thing you can buy, I suppose.

[lethal granite]

zeki’s loyalty club is a paid subscription.

cosmetics are the only thing you can purchase with irl money too!

[celest maple]

I guess it is, but to me it just seems like a delayed way to get a coin discount. I'm thinking more along the lines of FFXIV, WoW, ESO+, etc. Stuff with gameplay benefits is what I mean.

Not saying I necessarily want that stuff (ESO+ is especially bad IMO), but I'm just surprised it's not here since the game itself is free. Hopefully people buy enough cosmetics to keep development afloat.

[steady fox]

I think their goal is to be free to play, which means they can only make money via cosmetics
Gameplay benefits automatically falls into P2P game category, and S6 doesn't want that

[lethal granite]

mayhaps there are people better acquainted with those games who could provide a more informative response…

stares intently at everyone reading this chat who knows i’m talking about them

[celest maple]

It is a noble goal for sure. If anything I admire that.

[steady fox]

Yeah, as soon as any paid feature brings in a gameplay benefit, people scramble to point fingers at P2P features. From what i've seen floating around, that's the opposite of what S6 is aiming for in their free game.
It would be nice, sure, but i also kind of like that the only thing obtainable is to look pretty

[lethal granite]

wdym by “the only thing obtainable”?

[celest maple]

I just got this feeling while looking at the store. If I'm allowed to be briefly cynical: The less popular a game is, the less social value cosmetics have. If the game struggles, players leave, and remaining players have less incentive to buy the stuff that makes them look cool. It's sort of a vicious cycle, isn't it? Of course you'll have people who find joy in looking cool for the sake of it, but I do think there is a certain social element to cosmetics.

[steady fox]

With real $

[celest maple]

Maybe I'm overthinking it. The coin login club thingy is a pretty cool idea I think. That's appealing to me.

[lethal granite]

i understand the point you were making, ty for clarifying.

[steady fox]

It is, for sure, and an interesting way of looking at it - but not something unseen in F2P stores. I'd go out on a limb and say that's why they churn new cosmetics out at such a rapid rate. Piquing the interest of the playerbase is goal, really. There's always going to be people who get tired of the game, but I think the constant churn of newer players are balancing it out fairly well so far in Palia

that being said, the future will tell all. We'll see how well it pops with the Elderwoods update

[celest maple]

I started playing yesterday, so I guess my concern is something like "Oh no, I hope they make enough money to keep this show running!" since I really enjoy the game so far. It really is coming from a place of love.

Elderwoods is like an expansion, right?

[steady fox]

It is, from what I can gather
a fair handful of players are in limbo until it drops, and many have stopped playing all together until it does, so it'll be interesting to see the influx the update brings

[steady fox]

In terms of this, the Zeki's subscription is pretty new, and all I have really seen so far are good things. I think if they were lacking anywhere, they topped it up well with that one
But I'm prepared for the continued onslaught of pumped out cosmetics to make up for it

[celest maple]

Oh, I see! If there's a new expansion on the horizon, it would make sense for people to be in hibernation.

[steady fox]

The content drop is what has people excited
Personally, I'm looking forward to somewhere new to explore
But I think the influx of players again - old and new - is just one of many benefits a new map will bring

[celest maple]

Hopefully the Switch can handle the expansion, or the Switch 2 comes out before then... I play on Switch and it is struggling a bit with the base game as-is.

[fiery perch]

I keep typing stuff and then deleting bc my thoughts and words aren't wording properly

But, I personally don't like the monetization system that Palia has in place. I feel like there are improvements that could benefit them along with the playerbase. The theory/idea of being cosmetics only is nice, but I feel like it got executed poorly. Esp if you have to buy outfits as the entire thing and not individual pieces

Or the one that i really get saddened with, the pets being locked behind real money. I know it's only for cosmetics, but I still wish it wasn't only locked that way so they could have a function & mechanic or skill associated with it. Same with plot skins-- it'd be neat if your plot could have weather on it's own (that you can set) instead of needing a plot skin.

I will say, as much as i feel meh about ZLC in some ways, it was a good and nice step in the right direction.

[steady fox]

i would still beg for the ability to buy separate outfit pieces

They definitely paywalled some things that didn't need paywalled. But they seem to be somewhat evolving so I'm just interested to see where it goes.
The separate outfit pieces thing is a real struggle though why on earth they did that to us is beyond me

[celest maple]

I see what you mean. Part of the reason I believe in a paid subscription is that it could (in theory) be a stable revenue stream for the developers to make content worth staying subbed for, thus making that content available in-game. I think I'd prefer paying a monthly fee to having to buy individual cometics whenever one strikes my fancy. That said, I've played a lot of MMOs, so I'm not even entirely convinced of my own argument. ESO is absolutely ridiculous with its macro and microtransactions. The game costs money, the sub costs money, cosmetics cost a lot of money. FFXIV costs money and has a paid sub, but their online store kept getting all the best mounts and costumes regardless. I think I'm gonna get the Zeki Club thing since it's the closest to my ideal way to pay for the game. I'm glad to hear it's apparently been positively received as a concept!

[noble stratus]

i wish to be pets and skin / as cosmetics ..
BUT ..
for the players who can`t afford invest real money in game, because need pay medical bills [ individual like me ]
but i invest my life time i have left to live in game because i love the game 70% at it is [i am an elder ] ,
so will be honest fair game [ like other global game]
where i gain compare time spend some cosmetics rewards as single account player ...
because i know and have prove how many players have more of 5 accounts /user and i find no fair / breaking balance of game /or also ilegal TOS ...

[molten sinew]

Im not on here a lot so idk if it has been brought up but, Would i be the only one willing to pay money for a kickstarter to have a physical Hotpot card game? I travel a lot with friends and having hotpot as a simple and easy game to take with me would be so fun. Imo anyways. I play switch so with it being glitchy and the battery life sucking on the lite, i would like to play it more often than stressing catching it being open during a certain time and hoping it doesnt glitch out, upsetting others playing with me

[wispy lance]

!feedback you're not the first one to ask. But it's better to send in feedback to them so they receive this message.

[opal cypress]

Feedback & Suggestions

Looking for where to share your game feedback & suggestions for Palia?

• To share feedback directly with the team: https://palia.info/feedback
• To discuss issues with other players: #🦋│issues-discussions
• To read the latest Dev Updates: https://palia.com/news
• For bug reports, contact: https://support.palia.com

[olive carbon]

There are quite a few sets online, some of which have free downloadable files to print/3D print the tiles- just search palia hotpot game

[molten sinew]

👀 Thank you!!! I will do that after work!

[valid urchin]

is there a secret with catching rare fish? i’m just getting to the bundles and now it feels like i can’t catch a single rare fish. it’s been 35 minutes…

[dry swift]

Unfortunately it's just luck. When I got my unicorn fish for the bundle I just kept fishing up and down the bubble spots on Bahari's coast.

[valid urchin]

im fishing in kilima right now and i can’t catch anything rare

[dry swift]

You know that certain fish can only be caught at certain times of the day too, right?

[valid urchin]

yeah, i have wiki up i’m just not having any luck

[dry swift]

Sorry then, I hope your luck improves.

[valid urchin]

someone told me to get a site to see what fish are biting but that just doesn’t seem right to me

[dry swift]

I've never heard of such a site before. Not sure if I'd trust something like that.

[valid urchin]

am i more likely to catch rare fish on the bubbles?

[dry swift]

From what I recall, yes. Also, pretty decent chance at Einhar's pond or on the coastline to get rare fish if you're not looking for a specific rare fish.

[valid urchin]

she said it’s not cheating but it feels like esp to me 🥲

thank you for your help

[dry swift]

Of course! Good luck!

[grizzled mist]

It very much is cheating, and it is so against the game's code of conduct that we are not permitted to discuss it here. Trust me when I tell you to avoid it. 💙

[valid urchin]

oh wow i’m sorry i didn’t know! i couldn’t remember the name of it.

[dry swift]

3rd party clients and Palia in general are just kinda risky except for 1 in particular I will not name.

[valid urchin]

should i report the person?

[dry swift]

I should tell you yes, but in truth I doubt anything is going to happen to them.

[grizzled mist]

It's alright! Just letting you know so you don't get scolded! I was curious about it as well once, but quickly discovered that people in game were being immediately reported for using it. No need to name names.

[valid urchin]

that is crazy to me that people would cheat in palia.

[dry swift]

Officially, S6 does not support 3rd party tools or clients. Unfortunately there is 1 that provides some much-needed QoL features for home-decor that should be in the base game but S6 doesn't really add QoL updates.

[grizzled mist]

Right?? Of all the things!

[valid urchin]

i’ve played rust for a while now and the cheaters are awful, i never thought of all games palia would be one.

[grizzled mist]

A universal truth in all of gaming. Someone will always try to skip to the end.

[dry swift]

Truthfully, people will bot any game as long as they don't get banned.

[valid urchin]

that is so sad really. why not just enjoy the game? even if you aren’t the best at it, things like this ruin it for everyone else.

[wispy lance]

Let's move on from this conversation since discussing it here it's not allowed as we can't vet it. Thank you

[runic eagle]

Yeah it's in the TOS and is a reportable offense in game as well for cheating/botting.
"You may not use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game experience." https://palia.com/terms

[grizzled mist]

A lot of them seem to think it somehow brings them status. Bragging rights for achieving things.

[dry swift]

I wish I knew what to discuss about Palia these days. Game doesn't really have much going for it anymore until Elderwoods comes out.

[lyric night]

u will get a reason to discuss palia in probably the next 3 hours

[runic eagle]

Talk about what you think or hope will be in the next Update

[wispy lance]

well chat has really been silent most of the time seriously, everyone expecting EW news 😄

[grizzled mist]

It has been oddly quiet.

[wispy lance]

3 hours????? tiny.. what did you do?

XD /j

[lyric night]

its patch preview day
(at least it should be)

[grizzled mist]

is it?

[dry swift]

I think a lot of it is the regulars in here moving on to other games til EW comes out. Also burnt out from discussing the same issues and what S6 should do to fix them but we don't have a CM and S6 doesn't come in here anymore.

[runic eagle]

Yeah should be today or tomorrow if we get the Update next week on schedule.

[lyric night]

following their usual schedule, it should be yeah
login rewards end on the 17th, so patch should be on the 18th
things can always get delayed tho

[wispy lance]

yeah is it? :)), i've been so out of loop lately XD

it feels 2 early

[grizzled mist]

I thought updates were always like the last Tuesday of the month

[dry swift]

I was trying to get some discussions about Animal Husbandry going for a while here, but I got bored of doing that too because we don't even have EW yet and that has taken probably well over a year in the making so far. So animal husbandry probably won't happen for another couple years.

[lyric night]

the schedule changed a bit after the reintroduction of the maji market
now its basically every 4 weeks with a market in between
and the login rewards always give away the next patchdate

[grizzled mist]

The thing we've been asking for long before beta even dropped! 💙

[runic eagle]

Sometimes they are on a Tuesday and sometimes a Thursday. But last months was on Tuesday February the 18th.

[valid urchin]

oh is there a new festival coming?

[wispy lance]

nop

[runic eagle]

Nah, just the regular one that comes back each month.

!market

[opal cypress]

Maji Market will be running for a week, every four weeks.

Previous market took place from <t:1741075140:f> to <t:1741679940:f>.
Next market's speculative date is from <t:1743487200:f> to <t:1744092000:f>.
-# We'll get confirmation and possibly more info in the next patch notes.

[valid urchin]

sooooo long 😭

[wispy lance]

imagine having to wait for it 1 entire year XD

[valid urchin]

guys if i catch another red belly piranha i might just lose it

[runic eagle]

Used to be twice a year, Luna New Year in the Spring and regular one late summer early fall.

[valid urchin]

i couldnt wait..

im so glad hotpot is a thing

im pretty new to palia so im glad that i didnt have to wait XD

[wispy lance]

it used to be only at the market XD

[runic eagle]

That wasn't always there either, players loved it so much from the LNY that they added it to the UG.

[wispy lance]

and people say we didn;t have improvements in the game :)))

i know we need more XD

[runic eagle]

Yep all kinds of things we asked for, like flow wood too then groves came into play.
Used to be rough out there deforesting the place for a few pieces, then groves came and drop rates increased as well.

[valid urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

[wispy lance]

now we can grow our own grove as well XD

[valid urchin]

nooo its perfect

dari cloves are my enemy

[wispy lance]

with this in mind i'm really surprised people still fight over groves and FT's

[runic eagle]

I remember begging for fencing as well, that was a huge deal to many of us decorators.
And placeable tree seeds and flowers cuz the yards were so empty after clearing them.

[wispy lance]

yup

and when we got them it was bliss

and now we also have some sort of terraforming as well ❤️

[runic eagle]

Too many to list but yes we did get a lot of things we have been asking for Kira

[wispy lance]

hope we get a waterfall item one day

[runic eagle]

Oh me too!

[wispy lance]

so we dont have to create it XD

[quartz kestrel]

I then removed my whole fence around my plot by accident and now I live in fear of giga frogbert rampaging through the village

[lyric night]

maybe they will bring back giga frogbert for april fools
or giga frogbert rampaging through our plots would be fun as well

[quartz kestrel]

I hope Kaiju Frogbert returns for elderwoods

[grizzled mist]

Oh my! Blizzard pretty much just slapped S6 in the face with a glove and threw it on the ground. This could get... interesting

[wispy lance]

we have discussed that a lil bit yesterday in #💬│off-topic-chat message
Anyone that wants to discuss more about this is free to do so there 💜
Just as a reminder as this might get a bit too off topic.

[grizzled mist]

Gotcha. I wasn't sure which channel, as I intended to make direct comparisons to Palia. I just found out about it because I don't play the other game. 😆

[marsh depot]

Not to get off topic but can't wait for Infold to do the same when Nikki releases housing

[wispy lance]

that is also for off topic, actually nikki is quite discussed there so feel free to join

[grizzled mist]

Hehe it is currently the Nikki channel

[marsh depot]

Oh I just wanted to mention that, that's all 👍

[wispy lance]

now back to palia, I logged in earlier and wanted to check if the bugged items got fixed but forgot Q_Q

[grizzled mist]

Which items are giving you sass?

[wispy lance]

just the usuall that got bugged in the last few patches XD

[grizzled mist]

I'm finding a lot of older items, like the Founder's Lighthouse, no longer want to be anywhere but the ground. I'm afraid to move things now.#

[wispy lance]

yes that was on my bugged list as well

appypie mentioned they will be fixed "next patch" aka the lest patch we got, but it seems it may have not been fixed yet, maybe this one?

[runic eagle]

I'll be glad when these are gone from all plots.

[lyric night]

did he rly give an estimate tho?
bcs I can't remember that he actually said that

[wispy lance]

hm... I think he said next patch? or maybe he said "working on it" and I remember wrong XD

[brisk spruce]

#💬│palia-discussions message

I think it's fixed in some places but not all apparently
#💬│palia-discussions message
Oh I can also confirm the koi pond bug was fixed in the NEXT patch

[runic eagle]

Yeah last I read on that was being worked on #💬│palia-discussions message

[runic eagle]

Yeah I read that too, but it's still on all of my plots, premium ones and the starter 😔

[brisk spruce]

appy said that after the last one, so it should be this upcoming one now

[runic eagle]

Oh I thought you were saying it was fixed in some places. I misunderstood.

[lyric night]

yeah koi pond and missing paltech recipes (for players who crafted everything before they added the last 2 items) should be fixed with the next patch
allegedly

[runic eagle]

That would be me included, been conversing with Support for a year now and spoke to WC about it, hopefully it comes through 🤞

Still hoping they work on the Steam Accomplishments not checking off as well. That ones also been a year in the works.

[brisk spruce]

someone said theirs wasnt bugged anymore and appy said he thought that was the case, so that was what that one was quoting yeah. #💬│palia-discussions message
but I was moreso pointing out that was probably why Kira thought it was the previous patch

[runic eagle]

Appreciate it. I usually keep up with it all, but I was pretty sick around that time for a couple of weeks.

[brisk spruce]

no worries! I just happened to be there during that, and Moose's meme of it reminds me of junji ito so it's easy to remember

now, I have to kill 30 minutes. where's my discussion fire for entertainment?

[marsh depot]

We got Uzumaki in Palia before Elderwoods smh /j

[warm python]

Even an ember to warm someone is getting hit with an entire fire extinguisher now, doubt there'll be much until the news of the next patch drops

Also aren't we allowed to mention other games if the subject in relation to Palia, or we're we told wrong? Because immediately being herded to off topic upon mention of another game even when it's discussing Palia doesn't seem to fit that

Considering how much of a mess of communication that day was I may have read wrong for all I know but I'm pretty sure that was the case...

[marsh depot]

Agreed. It not only feels very restrictive, but unwelcoming. This was also my understanding "as long as it is relating to the topic of Palia" and not entirely about the other games.

[warm python]

It does. It looks like y'all were talking about housing in other games incoming compared to what Palia has. Id think that would fall under relating to Palia but

I've been comparing systems to ones in FFXIV for over a year, not sure if I can do that anymore lol

[wispy lance]

This channel is specifically for discussions about Palia. While it is natural to compare features across games, my intentions was to make sure that the focus will be more towards Palia and not other games.
I didn't mean to dismiss it or anything, I was merely giving a reminder beforehand to not go off topic to much if comparisons start happening.
SO! Bringing up another game once in a while as a comparison is fine, but we hope to keep chat more focused on Palia.

[warm python]

To be completely frank, it seems that jumping the gun to remind people before instead of gently letting them know when it happens is immediately stifling the conversation

[marsh depot]

Which I felt was what we were doing but any chance for discussion was shut down instead and we were sushed to off topic. It did pretty much looked and felt dismissive in my honest opinion.

[warm python]

Like both instances I scrolled past before, people immediately stopped talking, likely because they felt dismissed

[brisk spruce]

you didnt actually correct yourself after they said "I intended to make direct comparisons to Palia" so it doesnt really feel that way to anyone except you tbh

[warm python]

I get the intentions but in practice it feels like it's putting an end to the conversation, coming from a mod

[wispy lance]

well, we are few moderators and not always present, usually when we end up looking in chat the conversations have past. and it's a lot of off topic

[marsh depot]

It honestly feels like censorship to a point. Doubling down on it without apologising for the way it came across as well.

[brisk spruce]

it's almost like off topic and comparisons to other games naturally happen while trying to have discussions about a game

[marsh depot]

No wonder this place has become so silent. I myself had mostly moved on after the last debacle but was waiting for things to move on.

[warm python]

To be completely honest, even Palia talk was attempted to be shut down because of a lack of knowledge of what ZLC was

A big thing I've gone on in this chat about when it comes to in game things is not attributing malice immediately, and it's perfectly fine to steer things once things get off topic, but it does feel accusatory to a user when a mod jumps in the second they bring something up. And makes them feel like they shouldn't keep going. It's an authority thing.

[brisk spruce]

yeah the ZLC thing was um it's literally Palia. not even a comparison

[wispy lance]

I did apologise for the ZLC as I didn't know the acronym. to me it felt like another game and was like "what is that" 😅

[brisk spruce]

mods interrupting the flow of conversation before necessary, especially when wrong, kills conversations

[warm python]

That's still the point though, things immediately went pear shaped because a gun was jumped

[marsh depot]

And it gives a certain kind of message I don't think they'd want to be giving.

Context is important.

[polar elbow]

then asking "what is ZLC?" should have been the first question asked, not "let's not got too off topic with other games please"
Just something to keep in mind for the future, because, that's exactly the kind of situation people are referring to when they say that mods are jumping the gun and being too quick to shut down conversations 😓

[marsh depot]

Specially when the acronym has been used plenty in past conversations

[vapid pendant]

Palia: gaslight, gatekeep, flashbang

[brisk spruce]

ZLC was the acronym from the dev blog URL announcing it lol it didnt even come out of left-field
https://www.palia.com/news/mini-dev-blog-zlc

[ember lynx]

what r we complaining about today folks

[umbral lynx]

I'm still not a huge fan of the zlc while I see if being great for some users it feels... Lack Luster and very late? Like trying to get numbers up... Ah on that note I remember why I don't talk here much

[vapid pendant]

Welcome to the gatekeeping Disk! I would say here's your duck but you already have one!

[umbral lynx]

F the rules I'm going off topic I thought people got over the discussion bs but apparently not

[brisk spruce]

still not fond of gacha monetization tactics I know that's probably just a me-thing but... hard to get over when I avoid the genre

[umbral lynx]

Can't say anything about the game unless it's lies about how great it is so then the devs never learn and we continue to downfall

Honestly are we not over protecting it and masking users and this channel as a complaint area

[vapid pendant]

Yeah with Nikki at least you have a chance with the ftp outfits

[marsh depot]

I myself would've purchased it months ago if I was still active in the game since for myself it's a slightly more affordable option. But still, having purchased other game's passes, no thank you.

It's just too little too late.

[umbral lynx]

If zlc had came out half a year ago it would of been a banger but it just came out at a bad time and looks like a rush for numbers

But I'm very ehhh about a game for 10 year olds when it's pricing is so... Questionable

[polar elbow]

My main issue with it is that it's a login incentive that... you have to pay for.
For people who already struggle to find reasons to log in, the ZLC isn't going to solve that.

[vapid pendant]

God forbid imagine what this is gonna be like the Switch 2 comes out

That's barely playable as it is

[warm python]

I'm still curious as to how the PS5/Xbox ports are gonna run

[marsh depot]

All I can think of is PS1 Hagrid (if I can even mention that before being booted to off topic).

[warm python]

omggg

[west marlin]

I'd be interested to see the metrics or learning about that
Like how many people just log in then right off vs stay and play

[warm python]

Honestly same

[vapid pendant]

I'm the former

[umbral lynx]

You know they wouldn't tell us

[warm python]

there's definitely a difference of "how much does a user like/engage with this game" if all one is doing is logging in for a daily

which I'd use my own experience in comparison to other games I'm playing right now to explain but....

[umbral lynx]

Like that bug hunt event....I smell bad promo to get people online and the math not adding up

[warm python]

Oh the bug hunt event was definitely gonna have numbers fudged in the end, there's no way the game would go "oopsies y'all didn't manage it oh well"

[umbral lynx]

I don't personally like things like that

[mossy mica]

The dumpster fire that is Palia. 🖤

[marsh depot]

Keliiii

[warm python]

The wishlist on Steam thing too... I didn't buy those numbers, or even if they did happen, they were mostly from people who had no interest on getting it on steam and just wanted beeg froge

[mossy mica]

HI! 🥹🖤

I logged in a few times the last few days, and I have no reason why. I did a little decorating, and was highly annoyed. What the heck is wrong with the building blocks?!

[warm python]

Currently glitched, will hopefully be fixed next patch

if you mean the scaling of them at least

[mossy mica]

It’s so bad, among other things, but what else is new. 😆 I used to love this game, and it’s just a hot mess.

[marsh depot]

I haven't logged on in ages but unsurprised they're broken tbh, I'm still salty I can never finish my flower arch now (also hope you've been doing well! )

[warm python]

nooo not the flower arch

[pulsar meteor]

i certainly begged my non-playing friends, and i'm still using the original launcher even now, but that's at least a normal campaign tactic with games on steam to ask for that visibility

[mossy mica]

I’m referring to its ability to snap in place, and the grass peeking through. All I do in Palia now is decorate, but as a decor enthusiast, that only goes so far.

[umbral lynx]

The builder change really killed decor vibes for me...as well as half the decor items tags being messed up so you can't even place them without glitching which will never been a actual fix since glitching shouldn't be a thing to begin with

[marsh depot]

It looks like a white elephant on my plot now

[warm python]

Ahhh, that I don't know the exact deets of, someone else might

[pulsar meteor]

but agreed the bug numbers seemed odd and i don't think they did that approach again (i didn't remember that one until just now when it got brought up)

[marsh depot]

I think there used to be a workaround for that? Unless that is broken now

[umbral lynx]

Glitching shouldn't be a work around for a messed up tag

[brisk spruce]

I always forget about the bug event too until it gets brought up lol

[warm python]

I think the bug event was the only one of its kind they did? i think. but yeah the numbers were definitely fudged, they ought to have just had lower thresholds anyway to make it seem more realistic LOL

[umbral lynx]

Just fix the damn items already some have been broken since last year

[mossy mica]

I do glitches naturally, but some things are so simple and the game being bugged makes it hard place items regularly.

[lyric night]

grass peeking through was always a thing sadly with building blocks
workaround for that is to aim at the ground when connecting multiple floor tiles

[marsh depot]

Decorating being so broken as of lately is what really killed the thrive for me. Specially since some of my favorite items were bugged and I don't want to glitch 100 items just for them to be on top of a table.

[mossy mica]

Really? I’ll give that a go the next time I log in. That may be tomorrow or next year. 😆 For me, it only ever happened for blocks placed outside the building areas.

[marsh depot]

If I can be allowed to mention another game in comparison, Pocket Camp used to throw multiple events like this (back when it was an online game) and would give a small reward after (iirc usually materials or a shirt). I can't remember if they had a counter or not it would be cool if Palia could have done the same thing regularly. At this point I've only seen in-game communities do this sort of thing.

[mossy mica]

I am magnificent, thank you. I hope life is treating you kindly. I think I need to relook at my DM setting. I never started a flower arch, but hopefully we can do more in the future.

[marsh depot]

My DM's are always open for you! I had to rework mine a bit after certain events I shan't mention here

[polar elbow]

The reason I don't log in is because home decor alone is failing to hold my attention, but everything people can actually earn through gameplay is home decor, or something that will lead to home decor. Palia has a severe lack of earnable rewards outside of the "home decor" category, so people who would enjoy collecting outfits, or pets, or anything else in the realm of player cosmetics literally have nothing to work towards. Even people who do love home decor can only place so many items, or unlock so many plots, before they run out of room to put anything else down. And when all their plots are capped on slots, what are they supposed to do then? Redecorating is an option, but when you have to do it for every single update, and you never know if an update is going to break something you already made..... yeah, you get the idea. >>

The reason I don't spend money, personal reasons aside, is because I don't play the game enough (due to lack of appealing rewards/goals) to justify spending on cosmetics. If I'm barely playing, I'm not even going to get to see the cosmetic I bought on my own character, let alone be able to show it off to others. So why spend at all?

[mossy mica]

Accessibility and bug fixes aside, I’d be more keen to play with a higher decor limit (one day, if possible) and more decor filler items that we’ve mentioned before: preserve jars, book stacks, folded/hanging clothes, etc.

[mossy mica]

I purchased two outfits in the early days, and that’s it. I barely play now, but even if I did, there’s nothing worthwhile to spend it on. That, and why spend my money on a game that has failed its player base time and time again.

[marsh depot]

Same here. I purchased the capsule bundle when I was actively playing since I wanted some more clothing options with mix and match (and the glider+pet seemed worth it). But since then I've put off purchasing altogether and started spending my money on other games.

[polar elbow]

And this, at its core, is why monetizing 99.9% of non-default cosmetics with nothing you can actually earn is such a horrible idea- especially in a game where actual progression (example: tool upgrades, etc) caps out so quickly.
It's not about wanting to be given stuff 'for free'. It never was. It's about wanting a reason to actually log in and play.

[west marlin]

Oh you don't think plushie rng hunting is fun?

[brisk spruce]

if you had to guess, what do you all think the most player-requested feature is at this point?

[west marlin]

[umbral lynx]

farming maybe

[warm python]

[west marlin]

Animal husbandry

[mossy mica]

I was busy traveling, so I was late to the party for the new bug plushies. I haven’t even bothered to TRY.

[umbral lynx]

content?

[vapid pendant]

The leaked items to actually be added

[warm python]

Animal husbandry is definitely up there

Actual earnable cosmetics, of course, but that's not going to be a thing anytime soon

[brisk spruce]

yeah animal husbandry does seem up there

[polar elbow]

long-overdue accessibility features

[mossy mica]

New content. Elderwoods in Q1 easily turned into Q2, and I won’t be surprised if it’s pushed further.

[brisk spruce]

I wish I had nitro just to put "TRUE" on this, it deserves it

[warm python]

there ya go

I have added a true

[signal kayak]

while i don't play palia anymore, having the patch that will either save or destroy a game postponed to try to get it to be the best it can be wouldn't be a bad thing

[mossy mica]

Absolutely. I do know that if it destroys the game, then the added wait time will have only fuelled the fire. I know most of us are holding out for Elderwoods, and if it flops, then we’re done.

[umbral lynx]

i gotchu

was eating pizza let me catch up

[vapid pendant]

And then they gonna pay back Daybreak for it possibly but all the money probably went to lining the CEOs pockets as usual

[umbral lynx]

ngl i gave up on accessibility it seems s6 gives a strong 'it doesnt bother us so we wont invest into it' kinda vibe

[polar elbow]

not when I already have two entire rooms packed full of plushes lmao
At that point I have to toss one out just to make room for a new one, and when you have that many they just kind of blur together into some undefined blob where it no longer matters what any individual plush in the pile looks like, so why bother hunting for more

[brisk spruce]

I hate that you're right, but it does feel that way

[umbral lynx]

like i have problems, and i set my own personal bar VERY low since i am aware that my issue is very minor in the grand scheme of things and expecting games to cater towards it is just not right but i do expect a middle ground where i can use 3rd parties that are designed for my personal health problems to do the rest of the work i do this with many other games in all different stages of release and it shouldnt be that hard at this point but since the trading patch the game has been a blinding headache for many and instead of just readjusting the slider they just wack it up to 11 more and more and at this point the flashbang bug is triggering so much that the game isnt safe to play and its not a slow build up it is a rather fast flash like i just smacked the power button to get it off my screen
and before anyone says well you can jsut move maps cute and all but you cant actually see anything on the screen? so i have to blindly endure it while i try to get off a map? which i cant see? which causes pain ..... sure sure f2p doe right?

[raven orbit]

the fact that a shepp (someone closer than all of us) couldn't even get anyone to care and as a result stopped trying (understandably) says this much tbh

[warm python]

lol, lmao

[ivory vessel]

i bid them good luck dealing with console tech issues

[umbral lynx]

right?

[raven orbit]

bold of them to assume disabled players are willing to stick around for a game that considers them an afterthought so openly /Gen

[umbral lynx]

yeah this hurt so much and i doubt s6 will ever understand how much damage this moment did

[grizzled mist]

What's worse is I have a terrible feeling they didn't even notice.

[mossy mica]

Accessibility should be top priority for all gaming developments.

[grizzled mist]

Even moreso because they make up a much bigger part of the playerbase than surveys show.

[mossy mica]

This isn’t surprising at all. This game was doomed after the massive layoffs.

[warm python]

yeah.... like the hardware on those consoles are better than the switch so I want to believe they have a better chance of running more smoothly but uhhhhh considering how the PC version can be, my faith isn't exactly at a super high level

[mossy mica]

This, especially “cozy” games/farming sims.

[umbral lynx]

100 times this
like i remember coming here and seeing the backlash and was like i dont think this is a safe space to voice my worries and never really talk about it here

[ivory vessel]

yes, but also i didn't word that so well, lemme rephrase: it's less about how many issues they're going to get (because let's be honest they are gonna have issues, you said it yourself, PC has problems and S6's porting has been... questionable, to be kind), but more about how 1) it's harder to troubleshoot on consoles in general, 2) bigger consoles crowds are a lot less forgiving, in my experience. S6 better improve their tech/customer support, is all i'm saying... even if we still had players helping tech problems around here (cough cough), none of us were savvy with consoles, anyways

[warm python]

Ooof, yeah

[grizzled mist]

Opt in/out settings (especially for UI and VFX features)
A trade sytem for critters, considering a large number of players are locked behind skill walls for thing they physically cannot do
Adjustments to the Gales Temple to allow for alternate ways to complete, for the same reason I just listed above
Full keybind freedom to enable workarounds for difficult controls
Permanent Accessibility Coordinators on staff

[hollow crescent]

i’d like alternate ways too for gales, what they have now for roots is nice but i’d like something else than just “take me to the end”… have a Route A and B before heading to C kinda thing

from my understanding (could be “miscommunication” ) they have something in works at least for gales but waiting for a right time/for it to be stable befor implementation

unless it was added whn they added the other quest there, idk i don’t have an alt account to check

[grizzled mist]

While a small handful of changes were made, they were irresponsible ones for the most part. Nearly all have caused accessibility issues for other people, so we've essentially traded one problem for another. That's not progress. That's just a bit of a shuffle. Meanwhile, actual safety hazards are not being addressed in a timely fashion. These things used to be taken much more seriously, so if anything the accessibility has seen a sharp decline. It's getting worse, not better.

If only we still had CMs...

[hollow crescent]

[mossy mica]

The newest layout makes me feel…not queasy, but it makes me flex my stomach.