💬│palia-discussions

[warm python]

I mean, let em have their hugbox over there

[scarlet hazel]

yeah. still gonna be a dumpster fire to witness tho

[pallid ferry]

This frog has seen some things and is now the most important part of the trailer

[fallow saffron]

Can’t wait for someone on Etsy to craft this out of clay so I can buy it

[warm python]

People get their posts removed for being "too mean" but somehow not for calling each other curses for being "too mean"

I ran out of a lifetime supply of popcorn today

[scarlet hazel]

thats a frog? i thought it was another weird looking snail

[azure delta]

I thought a newt of some-sort

[pallid ferry]

it's a frog holding a lil vase of maybe incense sticks? on top of a leafy-plate

I like Ditto Frog better than Watches You Frog

[waxen mauve]

tempting..

[lethal granite]

dunno what yall complaining about with the rtb…

[west marlin]

I'm mortified that people on reddit are suggesting you be reported for... Interacting. Socially. In the social mmo.

[pallid ferry]

Reddit can go solo hunt magic muujin.

[west marlin]

For the record if someone runs up to you, emotes, and follows you... They want to get their co-op weekly done...

[lethal granite]

[pallid ferry]

I've definitely done the little hop-hop to try to get someone to finish getting all the Kilima clay.

[fallow saffron]

So you can make this happen?

[pallid ferry]

She looks like she's cracking her knuckles...

[olive carbon]

Good

[west marlin]

Seriously I csnt believe so many people assume the worst malice

When the entire game is structured around doing the silly relative farming stuff WITH OTHER PEOPLE

[warm python]

Every time people argue about "etiquitte" it makes me realize just how much people like to attribute malice to other players in this game. It really is babby's first MMO for a lot of people, unironically

[waxen mauve]

for legal reasons, no, but i do make cute little things out of clay!

[warm python]

I think a lot of players have never played an online game with people before so they think everyone's out to get them when it's just....no

[boreal forge]

cough robloxers cough

[marsh depot]

tish's true nature

[pallid ferry]

I meann, I played Rust for a WHILE. Sometimes it's true.

[west marlin]

Palia reddit is the worst for that

[olive carbon]

[west marlin]

I'm so glad to be banned

[warm python]

Never played Rust oh there are definitely games where people will be bleepheads in but

Palia isn't really one of them...at least, not in the "normal" toxicity way lmao

[pallid ferry]

Yeah, no one one Palia is coming to destroy your home and steal all your rocks. Or guitar.

[warm python]

People claiming you should report others for going in the same direction as you, people flipping out because someone ran past you while you were hunting, like-- I think some people forget this is online game

(which to be fair, it's not like the game has done much to actually incentivize a lot of group gameplay but lmao)

[west marlin]

Literally the only incentive to play together is to randomly run up and do stuff with people lol

But now i guess that's reportable 😂 thanks reddit

[young plank]

the more to chop down trees to spam flow trees the better LOL

[west marlin]

Right?

[waxen mauve]

(ftr if palia wants to hire an artist to make little clay spa frog buddies.... )

[young plank]

Now that i will fork money for over. some day i will have the irl plushies (if there is any LOL)

[hidden trail]

Imo it's simply bad design that all bugs and all animals are scared away by everyone all the time. The game creates the problems people experience, not the players. Unfortunately players trying to find ways to work around these often end up blaming other players and here we are

[waxen mauve]

this is another example of, i think, the game just...missing the mark of a cozy game

[vagrant lotus]

lmao I'm not on reddit so idk what's happening but whut? are people really saying to report people for checks notes being in your general area?

[west marlin]

Yes, because they did the heart emote at them and then followed them

[vagrant lotus]

nobody ever played Club Penguin/Wizard 101/etc. before? lol

or Diablo, WoW, etc

[azure delta]

It was a bit more ridiculous since they stated they felt uncomfortable about a male character following them around in game

[west marlin]

Yeah like somehow they're equating someone trying to get their weekly 'do x together' quest done to real harassment

[vagrant lotus]

I get that the game doesn't exactly foster the cozy community aspect of the game, but that's a huge stretch for someone to be uncomfortable with a heart emoji. If you're really uncomfortable with someone, say something in the chat and get clarification or just switch servers.

[west marlin]

Idk what kinda of culture they are trying to cultivate on that reddit but that's just toxic nonesense imo

[marsh depot]

You'd be surprised, I've encountered a lot of people to whom Palia's is their first "MMO" (or even social game in general)

[vagrant lotus]

sounds like someone just wanted to be upset about something today honestly

[fallow saffron]

[azure delta]

They did say something in chat but the person never responded, only emoted and followed them around. Guessing a switch player since my chat hasn't worked on switch for the last 5 months

[waxen mauve]

pretty standard reddit

[pallid ferry]

I mean, the coffee and popsicle emotes creep me out, but I just walk away...

[vagrant lotus]

okay that's fair actually, but what do they think online multi-player means? Maybe the game could explain what they are better nudges s6

[marsh depot]

God forbid someone follows you on an online game. I'm betting these are also the same people that complain about people chopping groves.

[azure delta]

The iconic dance's end pose reminds me of my cat cleaning himself

[waxen mauve]

i can deffo make FROG things!

[west marlin]

seriously, idk why they want to foster that sort of thing but

[vagrant lotus]

Also, they can't follow you if you switch servers anyway. No real harassment can happen through Palia unless you're handing out personal info

[marsh depot]

Specially funnier now that WC has stated they're gonna move away from the MMO tag. But yeah, I don't understand how some people are so entitled over... a game.

[azure delta]

It's more, if you're that afraid of other people in a MMO, maybe MMOs aren't the games you should play since they're...ya know... multiplayer

[west marlin]

and like even in the overly dramatic post describing it, they didnt describe thewm doing anything wrong at al

[waxen mauve]

[marsh depot]

Worst part is, some people are only complaining about people who are simply coincidentally walking in their way.

[west marlin]

commentors are just immeditly jumping to accuastions

[azure delta]

Reddit loves thinking the worst of every possible person and situation so unsurprising

[west marlin]

idk why the mods allow that kinda conversation, imo it makes palia look bad

zero voice of reason in that thread too

[marsh depot]

I'm honestly not surprised considering certain things

[vagrant lotus]

Because Reddit has always been a cesspool and that's why I left it years ago haha

I hear the problems are only getting worse across the board for every sub, not surprising it happened to the cozy game subs too

[vagrant lotus]

I walk through people all the time because there's no collision. I don't go out of my way to but if we're both crossing a skinny bridge in the Village, I'm not jumping of the bridge to avoid a player I won't collide with

[pallid ferry]

It better stay out of Mirrors for Sale.

[marsh depot]

Idk, I think there are some very few nice communities in there, but it also very much depends on what the community is based around.

But case in point with the Palia community.

[azure delta]

It was more weird that the angle was "because I'm a woman, I'm uncomfortable with this random male character following me around." The amount of guys I know that play the opposite gender and vice versa very high. Just weird vibes

[marsh depot]

Yeah, I get that. I mean I can't even see half the players most of the time.

[west marlin]

and female players outnumber males in most cozy games anywyas so theres a good chance it was another girl 😂

[azure delta]

Yup, my alt is a guy since I wanted to see how the girly outfits looked on the male model

[vagrant lotus]

Yeah I don't get this point, I know people who play the opposite gender in games (hi, me, half my Diablo files are male) and this is just so sad to think that someone could think I'm harassing them simply because I chose a male character skin

[azure delta]

We also have younger players. I don't want people growing up in the gaming community afraid to reach out to communities or other players because someone might be afraid of them for being a certain gender.

[west marlin]

theres already such a barrier to entry for this cozy game market for guys...why are we making another one like now they gotta be worried it'll be seen as harassment if they emote at someone?

[vagrant lotus]

that's the worst part, even if it was a dude, what kind of message is that sending to the community? We already have a problem with them not providing more masc options in the clothes and it seems like people in the community don't want to be a community with male players. Just real mixed messages all around from a game that supposedly priorities an inclusive community, but it provides neither inclusiveness or community.

[waxen mauve]

unfortunately, reddit is just never gonna be a good flagship of the community/game

relying on it to be that for the game is never gonna go well

[waxen mauve]

ambassador, not flagship lol

[west hill]

Sorry reddit did what??

[nimble gulch]

As a masc player, that's literally so,,,

I already get super embarrassed saying I play cozy/sandbox games as a transmasc bc people see it as feminine, and palia was a semi-escape from that, but now it's coming back around full force to hit in the face with that reddit post

It's so much worse a slow typing switch player 🫡 I rely on emotes for everything so I don't have to spend 10 minutes typing a message

[waxen mauve]

I'm sorry, you shouldn't have to worry about that. I hope your general experience is more pleasant than what that thread poses ❤️

[west marlin]

I'm really sorry, you don't deserve that

[nimble gulch]

It really has been pleasant but know I think I'm going to be thinking abt that subconsciously whenever I play.

[gritty socket]

Hey, if it helps, remember that the subreddit is only a subset of the active community, and even then that thread's opinion isn't going to be shared by all (or even most) of the people there

This Discord is also only a subset of the playerbase: I'd wager there are plenty of people who play and don't use either

[brisk spruce]

accurate, I've seen people suggesting to others in-game to join the discord so they can get more info easier

since S6 favors discord for where they share the most info

[nimble gulch]

I did really only join for the extra info but I got attached

[brisk spruce]

also seen people in-game talk about how they screenshot people who cut in line to post the screenshots to facebook groups and reddit threads though so... we don't all get along with everyone unfortunately

[nimble gulch]

That's! Genuinely insane behavior. Yeah bad etiquette I know, but you'll still get a turn regardless. Block them there and move on

[vagrant lotus]

really the line simulator is crazy. but why post someone IGN over a spinning disc

[loud axle]

It will forever blow my mind that S6 heard "we want more community-oriented activities" and went "Line simulator! Got it!"

[brisk spruce]

name & shame. which is against the rules in most places but that doesn't stop people from doing it anyway

[nimble gulch]

I've seen people get upset about that in game but the most I've seen them do is call the person out and Chuck snowballs before leaving

[gritty socket]

Honestly? Even this discord can get confrontational at times - and I'm calling myself out here, I'm not immune - and I've always said that's... probably not a good thing. I realize there's a lot to be frustrated about lately (and not just with regards to Palia), but we should all remember there's another person on the other side of the screen

[gritty socket]

Talking about The Underground Hotpot, I take it?

[loud axle]

Yeah the wheel.

[gritty socket]

I wonder if it would just be better to let players individually exchange tokens for a blind bag. It would lose the spectacle of The Wheel... but it would let multiple players redeem

Though, I do sort of wonder how much of LineCon 202X is due to players figuring "Well, not much to do other than hotpot, so... Let's go gambling!"

If that's the case, maybe more content would indirectly cut down the lines?

[vagrant lotus]

honestly if they added poker/blackjack tables, I'd go ham

if there was more to do or if the wheel simply allowed multiple inputs at one time, there wouldn't really be a problem

[gritty socket]

See, that's personally the sort of stuff I wanted in the Underground as opposed to Hotpot. But... the community loved Hotpot, so

[west marlin]

Line simulator

[gritty socket]

(for the record, I like Hotpot, but I'm a big fan of cardgames and cardgame-adjacent things, so the more the merrier)

[brisk spruce]

I never wanted hotpot in the underground, I told people it would get boring and old 😭 I wanted it to stay to LNY so it was something unique to look forward to

[gritty socket]

I think I said exactly the same thing

[brisk spruce]

I think you did.

so you're probably remembering right lol

my complaining was in a different server so only my community saw it anyway not enough people to matter

[gritty socket]

I always wanted to play the card game Auni and Hassian are implied to play at the Ormuu's Horn

Or, at least see them play it

[brisk spruce]

I actually do specifically remember you saying that

[gritty socket]

Yeah, like, I fell off of Palia for a while admittedly, but I was never going to full on quit or anything. I've just been popping in every so often while waiting for Elderwoods... and, currently, trying to decide if it's worth grinding the Tickets in the next couple days for the Naga nameplate and plush

Since the team (usually) tries to avoid FOMO, I imagine they'll come around again next year aside from the poster, since that was called out as a specific reward for the year

[brisk spruce]

the plush is cute and only 2k tickets, you might even have enough leftover from last year (they did carry over). the nameplate is 6k tickets but requires the win 7 hotpot games stamp card to purchase it.

[waxen mauve]

it's incredibly easy to get enough tickets right now just by playing hotpot

[brisk spruce]

just depends how much hotpot he feels like playing

[gritty socket]

Good to know! It's been tough, since I've been bouncing between a bunch of other games lately... but I am always up for hotpot...

[waxen mauve]

yeah for sure

[gritty socket]

I'll probably play more once we get the Ps5 release, too. My PC runs Palia well enough, but... there's just something nice about curling up on the couch and playing it there

[pallid ferry]

If I pop online and it happens to be nighttime, I’ll go do hotpot. Just so next year I can easily snag whatever is new. I got maybe 5 snakes.

Hotpot is easy to snag at least 200 tickets per game, and then you get more tickets from the stamp card, blue wish ribbon, and sometimes even the wheel.

[wary quest]

me who actually likes doing that

[half pendant]

man, i wish info wasn't kept to the discord, esp since discord is effectively a black hole for information thanks to not being able to be indexed by search engines

[ivory vessel]

i'm starting to think they do it on purpose. we've all told them a million times this discord doesn't cover the entire playerbase and important information can't be sent here only, but they don't care

[half pendant]

give me forums.

[near lance]

how to play hotpot in palia?

[brisk spruce]

!hotpot

[opal cypress]

Hotpot Minigame

• You can access hotpot tables in The Underground between 6:00 PM - 3:00 AM in-game time.
• Finishing a game awards 1x Prize Wheel Coin, while winning awards 2. (You need 2 coins to spin the Prize Wheel)
• How to play the minigame: Wiki - Hotpot

[brisk spruce]

@near lance here's a guide, if you're still confused feel free to ask again

[near lance]

thanks kali

how to master the hotpot mini game in palia?

[pallid ferry]

That’s part of the reason we’ve been saying to update the bulletin board. I’m glad S6 is finally doing something with that feedback

[nimble hull]

hi, i have a question has there been any talk about if/when they’ll update the story and character friendship levels?

[kindred pasture]

Elderwood will have new story and a new NPC

[nimble hull]

do you know when Elderwood update will happen?

[nimble gulch]

Sometime april-june

They announced for a Q2 release but it very well could be late Q2 or even Q3

[nimble hull]

that’ll be fun. i hope they’ll continue updating friendship levels for Kilima villagers. i was hopeful last year when they updated for Zeki and the others thinking they would do them for every character in the following updates

[midnight grail]

source?

didn't hear about new characters

[kindred pasture]

I tried to post it but the information is blocked by the server

[lyric night]

bcs it violates rule 5

[kindred pasture]

Yup

[kindred pasture]

Sent in DM

[sick wadi]

I worry players are getting too hyped up about Elderwood and will feel let down if it doesn't meet their unrealistic expectations

[nimble hull]

at this point i will be excited for anything that isn’t more premium shop outfits

[lyric night]

those unrealistic expectations happen bcs S6 themselves is keeping Elderwoods a secret officially instead of communicating what to expect
hopefully that will change 1 month before the actual release of it

[sick wadi]

Agreed, whenever secrets are kept, imaginations run wild

[lyric night]

seems to be the case

[marsh depot]

Think we all missed it amongst the chaos that was yesterday

[untold sluice]

I mean, tbf we almost logistically nothing about it. So you either imagine it's everything or assume it's the nothing that it is right now conceptually. Can't really have realistic expectations when they've set none, they've talked about nothing, and all we have at best is the knowledge that the game is what it is now and will just continue to be only that + a new map. Aka, Elderwoods just function as a new Bahari.

[nimble hull]

i wonder how big it will be compared to the other maps we have

[untold sluice]

I assume same size but just HOPEFULLY more dense laterally...maybe down the line they can add something like Harvest Meadows which is very wide but also fairly undense.

Imo, they should go back through existing maps, retool the assets, and drop a few variant maps in that style. Like "Bahari woodlands" as a transition between Elderwoods and Bahari that's just a more traditional mountain woodland area...or "Kilima Plains" where it's just rolling hills between Bahari and Kilima. If these maps are just places to farm stuff, it'd be nice to get some variety.

But honestly, map quantity doesn't really matter when the core issue, imo, is that the games core loop is very simplistic. Progression is fairly one-dimensional and you quickly go from character and gold accruel progression improvements to just "grind the things you have and pay for cosmetic progression with the gold"

It's not like Stardew where you are getting more stuff to make more gold to get more stuff for quiet a lot of time. Barns, more sprinklers so you can expand the scale of your farmables, etc. This game's progression ends with 9 plots of garden and the last tool tier.

I do assume at this point Elderwoods will include combat, but that's really just (I assume) the Palia version of the cave system at best from Stardew. It doesn't fully solve progression when the plot system is still fundamentally passive income that you go back to on the hour to water for a minute real fast and replant. Whereas in Stardew you COULD spend every hour of every day fully maximizing the plot.

But I doubt they want to do much more without a really thoughtful economy system enhancement that has some big ticket items to throw cash into if cash progression gets any more sophisticated. As it stands, it's just fruit + cake party at best.

[pallid ferry]

Well, it was previously revealed that the new tint will be the white one, so we still have to wait for our forest green, purely pink, cool creams, etc. The Garden Snail Plush will likely be catchable, but we're hoping the Rainbow Butterfly Plush will be a Lucky Machine, considering how rare that bug is. The ditto-like spa frog decor looks cute.
The trailer is a clear response to our feedback here on discord- don't show things that aren't going to be in the trailer, and give us the things you leaked.

I bet one of the flowers will be the same one they just gave us over Lunar Market.

[marsh depot]

I hope you're feeling better I also ended up having to step away due to how intense it was

[dry swift]

Yeah I'm thinking about toning it down a little after yesterday too. Don't want to catch a ban lol.

[trim willow]

how can i get this

[dry swift]

Tish's Guild Store for tokens.

[trim willow]

thanks

[wintry cosmos]

To be a new player today and play Palia and have things to do…

[ivory vessel]

which will 100% happen

[vivid oar]

Only a few months till we can feel a little of that again :D

[ivory vessel]

i still don't understand why they bonked you but eh

[dry swift]

I genuinely hope for WC's sake and ours that he steps back from wearing the CM hat. I think it only tends to lead to problems. Not saying he causes the problems but there's just too much speculation going on at this point and not enough clarity/transparency.

[pallid ferry]

Yeah I'm glad I was away when all that happened. Butttt moving forward now!

[vivid oar]

The trailer made me giggle, I am a bit bummed we didnt get to see a little preview of the stickers but since its coming in a few days I dont mind too much in exchange for the laugh hahaa

[pallid ferry]

I also liked the trailer. It made me smile a little, and like I said, listened to our critique and frustrations about previous trailers. Plus, they clearly have more than just a plush planned.

[vivid oar]

Oh i never look at that :O Are these ones we dont have yet? I actually cant remember what flowers we have at this point

[pallid ferry]

Don't we have the little white ones on the left? I feel like they're in my garden already.

[lyric night]

the 2 on the right yeah
the cotton ball (which were listed for the first flower drop) ones should be on the show home as well

[vivid oar]

or these ones? =_= I genuinly could be postin things we already have had for ages lmao

[olive carbon]

[lyric night]

there should be 4 unreleased flowers on tish hometour iirc

[olive carbon]

Gimmeeeeee

[pallid ferry]

I want to say it's mimicing an allium?

[vivid oar]

I want more basic bushes and shrubbery things >.< 'filler' type greenery if you get me

[pallid ferry]

I want bushes so that I can feel confident finally chopping down what's left on my plot.
AND YES Ciri! That would be an excellent springtime landscape.

Bascially the autumn fields one, but make it springtime.

[dry swift]

You could probably accomplish something like that by ghosting a windmill into a small building or hallway.

[pallid ferry]

I'm intrigued by what the new pet would be. We have a cat, a fox, a dragon, an owl, a ferret, a mechanical dog, a bunny...

[dry swift]

A whale. For the low price of $50 USD.

[snow remnant]

i did the most announced ending of the prologue in one hours so...

[pallid ferry]

I'd build it with dari cloves at this point if I could have a proper hedge. Or cobblestone wall.

[vagrant lotus]

pls, I need a hedge to make my Alice in Wonderland Maze

[marsh depot]

I'm just hoping that yesterday doesn't bring the exact opposite result and we wind up with complete silence. Granted I'm also of the belief WC is not trained to be a CM but what transpired yesterday was really the opposite of what the community should be striving for (but this is just my opinion, before someone tries to shut me down again like yesterday.)

[pallid ferry]

It better not be- b/c thats not "new."

[snow remnant]

one can tell the difference between a game that is clearly knowing where they are going towards when one sees that game. i mean they have only one big story arc that i know of, so far but the updates on events are very consistent so far and do really give you content to work on while you are looking forward to more story.

[pallid ferry]

At least the palcat with a hat had a pretty hat.

[vagrant lotus]

my fence is trees because I said that the fences all look ugly

I let them grow fully cause the waterbar was annoying so I have a wall of trees at the front of my plot

it makes everything a surprise when you walk on haha

[scarlet hazel]

We need an option to turn the water bars off. The flashy watering animation is more then enough to let you know you finished watering. Esp for flowers and trees

[snow remnant]

agree. the point here is that the advances in the game do not compensate them bugs at this point

[scarlet hazel]

I still wonder who thought it was a brilliant idea to have trees and flowers have a different water animation from the plants. Like literally why

[dry swift]

We need a VFX toggle 😏

[vagrant lotus]

please, I saw someone turn the growable bench into just a vine on the ground cause it's not fully grown, but she said the water bar is there for her and that would kill me lmao

[vagrant lotus]

the cake is a lie and I dont think there's any plans for baking

[scarlet hazel]

The structure of s6 at their office must be really wonky for a lot of the feedback to... Not seemingly being put into the game or even announced or anything

[dry swift]

haha sorry I couldn't resist the meme.

[olive carbon]

Yeah imagine how annoying it is if you also accidentally water it a lil so it's always there partially full just imagine, cuz certainly I'm not speaking from experience or anything. Heh.

[pallid ferry]

Agree with the water bar. I wish it were a toggle like the garden plot buffs.

[vagrant lotus]

oh jeez, good thing it would be in a relatively accident free location in my case

[olive carbon]

I was a silly-goose and watered something I thought was outside the area of effect because I didn't want to move the plant I wanted to water to get the seed from it's fine, I'm fine

[marsh depot]

Okey, I didn't want to bring back this argument again because the tone wasn't great last night. I am not saying he isn't free of criticism and accountability, I myself have told this to WC. What I was referring to was the way in which the conversation was had yesterday. I have repeatedly expressed my own gripes with WC and S6 as a whole, so please don't try to put words in my mouth. Because that is also exactly the way I felt yesterday just for not agreeing with something.

[pallid ferry]

waves hand at trailer They're taking some feedback, obviously. Some of what we're asking takes a tad more time than our impatient butts like. glares at accessibility

[dry swift]

You know what'd be cool? If instead/in addition to the bundle rewards, we got a little spirit buddy and we could attune him to each shrine after completing the bundle, but with one attunement at a time. It would be as follows:

Oceans bundle: Spirit buddy will now automatically water flowers/crops for you. You can toggle which crops/flowers you want watered and which ones you want left alone.

Fire bundle: Spirit buddy will now help you complete cooking steps and while active, ores will smelt twice as fast.

Air bundle: Spirit buddy will create a temporary updraft for you to gain height with your glider (OR) Your glider now moves 50% faster.

Earth bundle: Spirit buddy will automatically harvest and replant crops. (OR) Spirit buddy will give you an increased yield in ores + 10% increased rate in starstones.

[pallid ferry]

Spirit buddy is a fun concept!

[marsh depot]

And I don't disagree with that, which is what I feel like you're missing. I was just expressing the manner in which some things were said.

[pallid ferry]

I'd argue that your Earth Spirit could only harvest, no replant. Though I'd be VERY into a starstone boost.

[vagrant lotus]

I really think you should take that job

[dry swift]

Haha. It's okay. I just like having ideas. I know nothing about coding or the inside workings of game development. I just have a wild imagnation.

[fiery sphinx]

No regrets.

[dry swift]

That's fair to keep it balanced. Don't want to make farming completely automatic.

[vagrant lotus]

I don't think you need coding experience for the job they put out, but I could be wrong. It was just a 3 month position for basically an ideas guy

[dry swift]

I think part of the problem is that if I wanted to be an ideas guy for S6 in some alternate universe, I'd also want the community's input into how much they liked/disliked an idea. There isn't exactly a polling system in Palia at the moment.

[vagrant lotus]

That's fair but that's why I'm saying to take it, you could be part of the solution 🤔

[pallid ferry]

And asking us in here can be overwhelming.

[dry swift]

I still appreciate your guys' support of my ideas, whether they end up in the game or not.

[pallid ferry]

I'm very interested in the revamped Bulletin Board. The website has a lot of features that just aren't utilized.

[dry swift]

Somewhere ingame to announce upcoming features would be nice, too.
I know I always compare this game to OSRS, but OSRS has a town crier who is just an NPC that shouts out the latest poll/update.

Or just usability to the Kilima bulletin board would be cool, too.

[vagrant lotus]

they have a news tab. why don't they use it for... yanno... news?

[dry swift]

I guess after yesterday, they're going to actually use it for news instead of shop updates. That's why #📢│sales-news is a new thread. Players made their frustrations about getting pings in #📢│palia-news known.

[limpid root]

Because it's for potatoes clearly. (half joking)

[vagrant lotus]

nah I mean the news tab in the game that you just get login rewards from lmao

[dry swift]

oh THAT news tab. That's a good question lol

[marsh depot]

It would be cool if we could get like a newspaper with news like in Club Penguin.

[vagrant lotus]

that would be cool, I'm just wondering why the mailbox in the game isn't also the game news mailbox

would be literally on your game screen when you get mail

[dry swift]

I feel like if I had the ability and resources, I'd honestly revamp a lot of the systems and interfaces of Palia. It seems a lot of that stuff like the News tab is very underutilized.

[vagrant lotus]

like you get a weekly newspaper delivered to your mailbox from S6 with game news? idk would that break the immersion or something

[limpid root]

Just add a little icon notification for the news tab on the UI.

[marsh depot]

Sadly that would also mean they have news to give but... yeah that'd be cool.

[vagrant lotus]

but the news tab is for potatoes

[limpid root]

They really should send an in game news message about the patch notes each time. It might help curtail some of the "is x fixed yet?" every patch.

[dry swift]

I could see the Kilima Chronicle being a nice newspaper, written by Kenyatta with all the latest gossip and S6 news, delivered to your mailbox every time there's a #📢│palia-news update.

[vagrant lotus]

omg yes Gossip Girl but for the village, I'm 10000% down

[dry swift]

It could just be an ingame version of the website and contain a hyperlink that leads to it, unless there are security concerns with making it that way.

[lyric night]

that's what the login announcement pop up is used for

[marsh depot]

And a conspiracy column written by Elouisa. Caleri being the editor and trying hard to keep it together.

[dry swift]

Kenlii in the personal ads looking for his long lost sandwich.

[vagrant lotus]

switch doesn't have access to links/web browser afaik so they would just have to say to go to the main website and read patch noted from there

[marsh depot]

Have you seen this sandwich?

[dry swift]

oh, bummer.
And S6 wants to expand to other consoles? Are we sure this is a good idea? lol

[vagrant lotus]

well other consoles have browsers lmao

[limpid root]

Can't wait for more 'login with x' buttons to break on the website.

[lyric night]

we all know its not a good idea
at least they will likely drop their "beta" shield then as well, so no one can comment "it's a beta"

[vagrant lotus]

there's technically a switch browser but it's hidden and it won't come up for links in a game, even for youtube even though youtube is downloaded onto the switch. it's all silly

[old dirge]

They also have a login announcement tool, but if you mark only wanting new announcements you just don't get any - early on the checkbox didn't do anything and you got it on every login so... Progress?almost?

[dry swift]

Hm... not to be mean, but it sounds like the game just needs a rebuild.

ofc I know that isn't going to happen because there's no shot S6 has the manpower or resources to rebuild Palia lol

[vagrant lotus]

I don't think it's mean, you're probably right. A lot of the base systems of the game need work or a complete overhaul.

[dry swift]

Focus could have been such a cool system too but it just doesn't do anything at the moment once you hit level 10.

Sure, you get extra guild tokens, but those are also only so useful since once you buy all the guild furniture you really only use them for rare ingredients.

[vagrant lotus]

yeah I barely remember to cook/eat

I'm just gonna get cooking to level 50 and then not worry about it after that gold trophy

[old dirge]

I don't know much about the actual game engineering/coding/implementation but others have said that a good chunk of the options/accessibility features are built into unreal engine 4, if that's true then it feels like quite a lot went wrong at different decision and design points

[dry swift]

I was hoping at some point S6 made recipes/tools/ammo/etc. that required higher levels than 10. Like a level 25 arrow that is both a dispel and slowdown arrow would have been really nice.

[old dirge]

Even if it required the possibly coming magic skill to combine effects

[vagrant lotus]

CRAFTABLE mod kits, please

make it cost palium for all I care, just let me craft them

or rubies

[dry swift]

I always pitch the idea of Animal Husbandry (Which WC has said will come into the game at some point post EW) just being combined with gardening to make Agriculture. Make all the livestock level 20 Agriculture and above.

[limpid root]

It's a farming game animal husbandry should've been added fairly early on imo.

[dry swift]

Also skills need more synergies. Give us the ability to use ormuu milk gained from Agriculture, on a dairy churn or fermentation vat (Made with furniture making), to get butter, cream, or cheese (Used in cooking)

Give us Apiaries to house our own bees, let us plant flowers around the apiaries so that the bees are happy/healthy. Then the bees can give us crop growth/yield bonuses in addition to beeswax/honey.

Let us use honey in cooking recipes, but also in a fermentation vat to make mead which can restore focus or be sold for a lot of gold because fermentation takes a long time compared to jarring.

Let's use beeswax to make new tools and consumables.

[marsh depot]

???

[vagrant lotus]

huh?? rude

[dry swift]

Hold up. Let her/him cook.

[limpid root]

Cherry picking from yesterday's conversation.

[pallid ferry]

Annnnd let's haul that dead horse back out

[vapid pendant]

If we don't light a fire under them it's only a matter of time before everything go to crap again

[lyric night]

its a community sim with a minor farming aspect, would not call Palia a farming game tbh
but I get the want for animal husbandry and s6 clearly wants to add it as well, guess it will probably one of the points on their roadmap they want to release

(funny enough the "community sim" is also lacking several community features )

[marsh depot]

And attacking someone else for saying something is the right thing to do in your eyes.

[dry swift]

I mean... you must not know me well enough in here lol. I light lots of fires. But you can only do that so often before the mods just outright ban you.

And I'd rather not try to get banned as being banned from here would be less productive than trying to provide civil feedback.

[vagrant lotus]

Herp, I'm sorry you always get attacked for saying absolutely nothing wrong

[marsh depot]

This is exactly he same thing I was refering to earlier on. One thing is complaining and sharing criticism, that's valid. But when it gets to literal attacks, that is not okey whatsoever.

[dry swift]

Lol it's okay guys I'm a big boy, I can take it.
I know it's not personal.

[pallid ferry]

Hi you must be new here.

[vagrant lotus]

this is the lit fire channel lmao

[vapid pendant]

They said they were hiring one months ago and look where we are now, still nothing

[pallid ferry]

We keep the fire lit and continually bring up features that need attending to.

[dry swift]

Yeah... that's the slowness of companies hiring PR people though. Nothing we can really do about that.

Most effective means of protesting we have is to just abstain from playing the game and/or spending money on their shop. 🤷

[marsh depot]

Sure, take that up with S6 and WC. Not with someone completely unrelated just sharing an opinion. Sorry Moose meant to reply to that other person.

[vapid pendant]

The only reason Daybreak has them is because they ran out of money. And that's not because of cosmetics like they keep saying

[polar elbow]

When there's a problem, you want to keep the fire lit and draw attention to it, but you don't want to burn everything down or attack the people who can actually put them out, because that's counterproductive.

[marsh depot]

I dont know how you would think so, I wasn't reffering to you. Just to the person attacking someone randomly.

[pallid ferry]

@marsh depot all good. I'll go fetch more firewood, but not the flashbangy type.

Resharing uncomfortable Ditto Frog b/c seems about the vibe

[marsh depot]

No, you're good. I also do overthink. And very much agree, even more ironic considering this is the channel where we all feel we can share opinions.

[pallid ferry]

I wonder what the Bulletin Board rework will look like. Will we be able to merely comment under existing bug-threads? Allowing us to post new threads feels like it'll get overwhelming FAST. I would like to change my profile pic on the website at least

[snow remnant]

all i know is that the new tints have been announced in the last.. two, three patches? and it did not happen so i am not confident about that happening this time either. First time they apologized, the last time not even mentioned a thing. That's my level of confidence in the advances of this game currently.

[pallid ferry]

It's such a good expression. Hats off to whoever modeled it.

[marsh depot]

This makes me think of that episode in Malcom in The Middle with the butler in the bathroom (iykyk)

[pallid ferry]

It was already confirmed in here previously (like weeks ago) that the new tint we get will be the white one. We've already screamed at them for showing tints that we can't have and then reminding them to keep the plural out if they're only going to give us one. It's frustrating that the one we're getting is not one of the unreleased tints I've been waiting on, but they have communicated.... if you live in this chat 24/7 and check all the pinned messages.

[warm python]

Good morning folks, it is time for my regularly scheduled "I wish they would post important information (such as in this case the vfx toggle never existing) outside of the discord for the sake of those who haven't/can't joined/are banned for whatever reason"

[pallid ferry]

Again, I give props to them for showing restraint in the trailer and ensuring it doesn't show anything they don't plan to give us. Even if we want to see WAY more.

[lyric night]

honestly still don't get the reason why they are holding back the decor tints, I sure hope they will arrive with elderwood.

hopefully WC won't have the glorious idea to paywall them, bcs that won't end good
decor tints are one of the main things a majority of players are desperately waiting for for years now.
constantly seeing them on Hometours bcs some players use cheats to get access to them doesn't help

[pallid ferry]

It'd be overoptimistic to hope that they include this kind of stuff on the website... but we can dream and scream.

[snow remnant]

...what? and then they wonder why we get so discouraged. On top of all, promising things that never happen is a constant they carry like it's an asset seriously.

[lyric night]

they clearly communicated one tint this time tbf

[ivory vessel]

showing restraint against lying to their players? D: like please don't take me wrong, this isn't a drag at you!!!!, but like. it's very easy to showcase what's available and simply not show what isn't :S imo at least!!! no offense

[snow remnant]

i noticed that too, because what I just mentioned.

[vapid pendant]

Not to mention all the leaked stuff they've been doing themselves

[pallid ferry]

Yeah I don't get the slow drip of the tints either, unless they're that slow at making sure they're applied correctly to all the furniture? I suppose that a lot to recolor, but.... come ON.

[snow remnant]

thanks for the info, gotta give them thatthis time.

[warm python]

FFXIV does a thing where they post all kinds of updates/info on their site and links them in the launcher so you can see any new communication when you're logging in

So you don't have to go out of your way to a third party site/program to keep abreast of what's going on

[pallid ferry]

It's props bc it shows they listened when we SCREAMED at them last time for showing us 3 new tints but not giving them, and then reminded them of the snail (and other items). Should it have been an issue in the first place? No. But it's a sign of a course correction that give me some hope.

[lyric night]

they have a tool for their tints, they should be able to constantly push out new tints without much effort
I would love to be able to unlock tints through gameplay tho, so hopefully they are working on something like that and that's the reason (but I doubt it)

[limpid root]

They also have public live letters for every major patch to clearly show off what's available. (Alongside the patch trailers.)

[warm python]

Meanwhile who's gonna know about what happened with the vfx toggle wiping from patch notes? Us who were here in chat yesterday

[pallid ferry]

Its the last thing that was pinned.

[warm python]

Let's be real how many people actually click pins on a server LOL

[limpid root]

At this point I'm kind of expecting it tbh. Since it doesn't give a gameplay advantage persay it's probably fair game.

(And this is assuming they hold to their promise that they'll never sell gameplay advantage.)

[warm python]

On a singular channel they might not even have reason to visit, at that

[limpid root]

Very few assuming the amount of people who can't figure out how #🤝│trading is supposed to work.

[polar elbow]

part of it I'd blame discord itself for, pins aren't exactly super visible on many devices

[pallid ferry]

Ah, thanks for the insight, I wasn't aware if they were applied manually or if they just dragged a filter over the model or what.

[loud axle]

Hello Discussions~ Everything on fire today or have the flames settled?

[limpid root]

Maybe it's just a holdover from being on forums for eons at this point. I make it a point to read all the pinned posts when I go into a channel.

[warm python]

I love how excited they always are in the live letters to show off what they're working on. And I'll always have respect for their communication for when things go wrong. Like when the log in queues for EW were immensely long and also broken sometimes, or the housing lottery glitch in Ishgard.... We got like post after post, massive posts filled with technical details as to what's happening /why they think it might be happening /what they're gonna try to do to fix it/ETA if possible

[pallid ferry]

It comes and goes. Some are still fanning. We dragged out the dead horse for a newbie earlier. Good times.

[vagrant lotus]

hhahahaha no answer yet

[warm python]

Just keeping a cozy campfire going

[limpid root]

Transparency in communication is wonderful.

edit; typo

[loud axle]

It's like a pinata! Maybe if we beat it enough some goodies will (finally) come out

[vapid pendant]

If only I doubt it though this is just a plushie sim at this point

[pallid ferry]

I've already accepted that I'm not getting the Rainbow Butterfly if it's a catch chance. Unless they have it set at 50% or higher.

[warm python]

It is!! Lmfao god with the housing lottery thing I just remember laughing to myself at how many long updates we got about it I was just like it's okay buddies just keep working on it I have no idea what most of this technical stuff means but you're doing great!!! But it's why I also give them more leeway even when they do things I don't like, because they've earned my trust

[dry swift]

I think at this point, Palia is more of what I don't want it to be than what I want it to be. So I just sit in here and sillypost until S6 makes Palia more of what I want it to be.

[vapid pendant]

That's why I'm sticking to the trading channel for it, wait for it to be flooded by a hacker or a duper and bid

[pallid ferry]

Until the ormuus arrive.

[dry swift]

Yes. Until Badruu gives us Pekis/Ormuus (Maybe Sernuks and other cool animals)

[warm python]

I'm definitely willing to give a company more benefit of the doubt if they haven't spiked my trust six feet into the ground

[snow remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-roast-nods-gif-15276687

[dry swift]

That's why I just play games like Runescape/Satisfactory now. Devs I can trust who communicate and make games I can actually stomach for a few hundred hours at a time.

[pallid ferry]

Have other people sent in feedback about the quest HUD size? B/c we definitely need a HUD scaler now.

[vagrant lotus]

I can't breathe omg

[snow remnant]

lol

[warm python]

Yeah I saw the pics of the UI now and dear lord

[loud axle]

I just hope other devs / companies didn't watch Palia crash and burn and go "ah, that particularly genre / niche isn't marketable" when it... very clearly is, if you do things correctly.

[warm python]

Give some of that size to the chat font on Switch

[snow remnant]

sorry, not sorry XD

[vapid pendant]

I'm waiting for the inevitable Youtube video about this

[dry swift]

Palia 2 when? /s

[vagrant lotus]

nah if palia crashes and burns, I already have 4 ideas, someone to hire and my stepmom on speed dial to start a new game

[vapid pendant]

Or move to Farm Folks, Infinity Nikki, Hello Kitty hell even Minecraft

[loud axle]

I have seen very few critical videos of Palia

Their partner program seems to have made people very wary of critiquing the game

[limpid root]

Do it anyway tbh. More competition would hopefully spur more improvement.

[snow remnant]

just do it! I will buy your cosmetics like in here coff...even if i never use them... cofff

[sick wadi]

I look for games other than farming, started years ago with Farmville and am tired of growing crops, lol

[vagrant lotus]

I don't know anything about anything for game development so I'm basically calling my ma with a project to do and she has enough to do rn

[wary quest]

Partner program?

[loud axle]

People get perks for being Twitch streamers and what not

Palia gets free advertisement and the streamers get codes to give out and such

[polar elbow]

If anything, I would say I kind of got the vibe there is a lot of interest in a cozy community sim MMO-type game, it's just... palia isn't what many people hoped it would be, I saw a lot of interest and hype at the start of beta among my friend group but it fizzled out pretty quickly when they all actually got to play and realized the game wasn't what they thought it was

[wary quest]

Ohh, I see.
I'm not on Twitch so eh

[loud axle]

So even if those people have negative comments or critiques about the game, they don't make videos about them because they're worried about losing their status as a partner.

[marsh depot]

Like many of the Sims 4 partners

[lyric night]

still funny that they can give their partners almost all new cosmetics every patch but we can't get at least one cosmetic for free
(doesn't even have to be anything premium, just a god damn remash of an existing hat or something like that would be enough like they did for the switch linking outfit (which is a differnt texture of an existing outfit + froggy hat specifically made for the outfit)....)

[scarlet hazel]

I'm surprised people haven't turned hostile towards streamers for getting free cosmetics

Normally that gets people super upset. But... Not here it seems

[ivory vessel]

nowadays i gotta be honest EA gives a lot of freedom to their partnered creators. the people i keep up with are openly critical of the game's issues, now. i agree, it used to be disgusting before

[west marlin]

What always baffled be was that the one perk they don't get is the abilty to advertise here 😂

[loud axle]

Oh I didn't even know they were getting free cosmetics

[west marlin]

Usually games have a discord channel dedicated to when their sponsored streamers go live

But here you can't even say their names 💀

[marsh depot]

I honestly stopped keeping up with most of them because of that reason. I still find someo of them to still be very pandering though but

[vapid pendant]

Damn Ego much S6?

[wary quest]

We can't?

[pallid ferry]

I wouldn't expect Palia to actually give partners money. Giving them cosmetics is the bare minimum.

[west marlin]

No it's advertising

[scarlet hazel]

Yeah advertising is not allowed

[wary quest]

I...
huh?
That's so weird

[polar elbow]

yeah this is the first I've personally heard of the free cosmetics and the first thought that popped into my head was:
"oh, so palia partners get to earn cosmetics through (streaming) gameplay but no one else does?" >>

[west marlin]

Ikr

[loud axle]

Oh for sure I wouldn't expect them to get money, I just didn't realize they were getting cosmetics in the deal.

[ivory vessel]

oh i know, yeah. but i watch james turner a lot and even though he's someone who tends to be very positive on everything (life in general), he always makes sure to highlight bugs and, like, packs which are or aren't worth buying and why he feels that way. plumbella was always an active honest voice, as well, though she doesn't make as many videos nowadays

[marsh depot]

I didn't either, but I've seen it in other games (such as League) so Im not too surprised. But yeah, surprised I haven't seen much backlash from that either.

[scarlet hazel]

But becoming a streamer just to get free stuff sounds like a funny way of going about it.

[marsh depot]

I always liked FGG for that reason.

[west marlin]

The partners also get to know about what's coming before we do

But like it's so weird they don't get to advertise here...

[scarlet hazel]

Aren't they not allowing anymore partners?

[slow olive]

I find it so odd people can't post about their own Palia discord servers here. It's so hard to find a decent regular community to play with unless you go searching everywhere else. They should be encouraging communities in their 'MMO' and have a place for people to post these

[vapid pendant]

Again ego I bet

[marsh depot]

You could before, But then they changed it and I agree, I find it very much odd.

[vagrant lotus]

the only reason I can think of was that drama was bleeding between servers and to discourage that they just stopped letting people post their servers. idk, but something similar has happened in other servers I've been in

[slow olive]

So lazy moderating. Instead of dealing with the drama remove a really useful function that benefits the community

[vagrant lotus]

potentially, but like I said, idk. it could be something else. I agree that it's weird tho

[dry swift]

Honestly, nothing beats a nice nap when you have a sinus infection. I feel ready to take on the rest of the work day 🙂

[slow olive]

No I mean you are allowed to advertise your in game community. But not an actual discord server

[warm python]

Which is wild when they don't allow you to speak other languages here but won't let you post other-language speaking Palia communities

[dry swift]

I can kinda understand the reasoning behind that though for legal reasons.
I know there are a LOT of Runescape servers that front as "community" servers that are doing very sketchy/illegal social engineering things.
Unfortunately those few bad actors ruin discords for the wholesome part of a game's community.

[west marlin]

In the specfic case of streamers tho if they're partners surely they've been vetted by S6 so why not let them post here

[slow olive]

They probably are. But they can't say they are. They have to pretend to be a group multiple in game communities instead. All joined by a discord server they aren't allowed to mention. It's ridiculous

[warm python]

It's so weird to me that like, not only can you not link them you aren't even allowed to say their names LOL

[scarlet hazel]

It's so anti community it hurts

[west marlin]

Yeah it's really bizarre

[slow olive]

Just needs a disclaimer to say they are not affiliated in any way with Palia or this server. Take no responsibility etc etc

[warm python]

I've since given up on how this place is run but man it will always baffle me

[scarlet hazel]

Palia in of itself feels so so anti community. The only thing connecting the community is art and writing, when it should be everything

[dry swift]

Palia is a strange paradox in that they claim to be a community game, yet lack many of the features that make communities possible. (Trading, being a major one)

[warm python]

brief brb trailers for the waifus and husbandos of the next rune factory game apparently dropped

[marsh depot]

The only other reason I can think of is due to certain instance that happened in the server. But yeah, it still sucks regardless.

[warm python]

oh no I love them all

[dry swift]

Just need a game with Once Humans' homebuilding/furniture system, Palworld's breeding system, Guild Wars 2's mount/dye systems, Path of Exile's bartering system and Animal Crossing vibes and we''re good. How hard could it be? 😂

[scarlet hazel]

Omg id go to that game instantly

[vagrant lotus]

if you know anyone with experience building in Unreal Engine 5 (or anything better?), hmu

[dry swift]

Haha I wish.

[vagrant lotus]

I'm thinking of just watching the 40 minute how to video on the website and seeing if I can figure it out from there lmao

I'm a graphic designer, not a game developer but if this is what I have to do for the game that I want, so be it

[dry swift]

I tried to get into game development before as just a hobby. Building code and making your own animations, music, etc. seems like a LOT of work. I honestly have respect for people who can dedicate themselves to art like that.

[vagrant lotus]

I've been lite modding in stardew for a while, but that's literally the extent of my knowledge hahaha

[warm python]

also yooo new fantasy life finally has a release date, May 21, for cozy gamers who liked the first one

[vagrant lotus]

hey, that's my birthday

[dry swift]

I get into a cycle every year of: Play OSRS until I get a lot of loot and burn out > Discover other games/Play some of my old games I love for a few months > repeat.

Right now I'm tempted to start a new playthrough of Satisfactory because my best friend told me that 1.1 is coming out soon and that there have been some nice qol updates.

[polar elbow]

I liked the original fantasy life a lot, the only real gripe I had with it is that all the different crafting classes had the exact same minigame to craft things

[dry swift]

I really liked GW2's crafting system for some reason. I loved the idea of a bunch of little components being used to make bigger components for weapons/armor, as well as realistic cooking ingredients actually being used in cooking recipes.

[warm python]

I can't remember what I saw in the trailers for the new game but I do remember putting in an insane amount of hours in the first game

[limpid root]

I went and looked for the trailer and this looks like fun.

[vagrant lotus]

we should be able to make oil. gimme an oil press and let me put veggies in it

we should also be able to mill our own flour. you're telling me I can take a rolling pin to wheat and make dough but I can just go buy flour from the store to thicken my onion soup? nah fam

[dry swift]

Also, where's the cheese? 🧀

[vagrant lotus]

insert Jennifer Lawrence gif here "where's the pizza cheese"

[dry swift]

insert wallace and gromit gif "We'll go where there's cheese!"

[warm python]

There's so many things like that that just seem like cozy game staples it should have already had LOL

[vagrant lotus]

I'll say it again, but if anyone here has any game building experience, hmu cause I have ideas and no money lol

and there's like 3 people in this chat that I'd hire once I have money

I meant to type 30, but maybe 3 would be enough haha

[loud axle]

The only experience I have is on the writing / design / balance side D:

[dry swift]

"Aw, I have 3 ideas and no money. Why can't I have no ideas and 3 money?"

[vagrant lotus]

okay, hired

[loud axle]

I took a couple programming classes in college but that was eons ago

[vagrant lotus]

you're hired too

[loud axle]

Basically I have enough knowledge where I can go in and tinker with code but not enough where I can write it myself from scratch

[vagrant lotus]

perfect, you can be a final editor

[dry swift]

I'll be honest, all I have is wit and a talent for baking cheesecakes.

[warm python]

I made a flash game with a snowman in a math class in college like 18 years ago or smth and got an A+ on it (but a C- in the class cause math sucks) does that count

[vagrant lotus]

excellent, more than I've ever done. hired

[polar elbow]

I have no experience in actual game development but I'm good at identifying problems and what causes them, I could be QA or something maybe lmao

[dry swift]

My buddy and I were talking about the wild wild west days of Newgrounds. What a time to be alive that was.

[vagrant lotus]

I texted my stepmom a while ago to see if she knows anything about unreal engine, but idk if she ever finished the classes she was taking or is she'd even have time for something like this but fingers crossed cause I'm poor and can't hire a programmer

[warm python]

Oh lord, that was truly a time

[limpid root]

There are many many tutorials online. And many game engines to choose from, they are just tools. So it's better to pick the tool based on the kind of project you want to do.

[dry swift]

You know, if you're this passionate and serious about making your own game, you could always start small. It might not be the game you WANT it to be, but you could still incorporate some of your ideas for the big game you eventually want to make.

Who knows, if you work hard enough on it maybe you could be successful and develop other games and get some other ideas in the meantime.

[vagrant lotus]

afaik the only choices these days is UE5 and unity and unity is harder to learn from what I've heard

[limpid root]

Hopefully I don't get bonked for this. But it's a great game development learning resource.

https://www.develop.games/

[warm python]

My creative abilities honestly only extend to writing sus fanfiction so props to anyone who actually wants to go as far as making games LOL

[dry swift]

And I'm sure there are plenty of other people out there like me who would brainstorm all day if given the chance who have great ideas.

[vagrant lotus]

I've been inspired by the fact that if Eric Barone can make a game that hits 50 million copies sold in less than a decade with his 1-3 person team, then pretty much anyone can do anything if they really want

[limpid root]

Just go into it with the goal of making a thing for funsies/experience.

Don't go into it with the expectation of making money. That's only a possible side effect.

[marsh depot]

My bf is a games dev and QA tester so I guess I could ask pester him for classes

[dry swift]

Whenever I think of successful indie developers, I always think of Edmund McMillen.
Guy just LOVED drawing monsters and happened to have a few friends who liked making games and now he has very successful games like Super Meat Boy.

[vagrant lotus]

I just want to make a game that's fun to play

[polar elbow]

I'd love to learn how to make a game at some point, but I feel like I'd be spending more time just organizing my scattered ideas/thoughts into something cohesive enough to shape a game around, than actually learning how to make a game using those ideas >>

[vagrant lotus]

that's why I use Milanote for everything, including my pokemon go monthly schedule lmao

[dry swift]

Shouldn't game development be viewed as an art anyways? It's going to take a ton of practice and you won't always get something that looks pretty.

Even from baking dozens of cheesecakes over the years I can tell you that they get better and better with experience.

[limpid root]

That's how you start though. If you are making an ambitious project you need an organized plan, generally in the form of a game design document.

The good thing about those is they aren't meant to be static. You are supposed to add/change things as you go and as concepts evolve.

[vagrant lotus]

oh yeah, I'm 100% taking one of my written out DnD campaigns and turning it into a non-combat life sim

my "organization" is poop lmao

[dry swift]

Absolutely this, even if you have a fulltime job to pay the bills and can only set aside a couple hours a day to work on a project; that's better than nothing.
All arts should be viewed as a hobby until you have a finished product you can present.

[limpid root]

Even if a project doesn't turn out like you originally intended you still learned stuff. And you can apply it to making other things.

[prisma cobalt]

Hello. Where can I post for trades?

[dry swift]

IMO making messes and mistakes is part of the fun.

[polar elbow]

Oh, I'm more than aware, don't get me wrong. It's just too much work for me to focus on it right now. I'm trying to take care of other, more important things in life atm and that's taking up all the daily spoons/brainpower and leaving none for a hobby that would require me to use a LOT of it to organize into something cohesive enough to actually move forward with making a game from that, is all

[prisma cobalt]

It says I don't have permission to post

[limpid root]

Check the pins in the channel.

[prisma cobalt]

chat still grayed out

[marsh depot]

You need to verify on that link to get the role.

[slow olive]

Or put him to work 😂

[prisma cobalt]

I did

yes

[opal cypress]

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[prisma cobalt]

Didn't received any message from the bot

[wide hound]

Hey hey. There's no bot message that happens after reacting to the Rules/Pinned Comment.
Anyways, the bot is currently down and not really doing its job.

[wide hound]

Try posting now.

[dry swift]

Thank you Naz!

[wide hound]

No worries. In the meantime, if there's anyone unable to get the role, just ping me and I'll grant the role manually.

[prisma cobalt]

Thank you Naz

[turbid delta]

Sorry to bother you, but I tried to get verified as well and it didn't work. If you're free could you please verify me for trading?

[wide hound]

Done. And it's not a bother. Feel free to ping whenever.
(Oh, and don't forget to actually read the rules as well )

[stray sluice]

If there are two of us In a party cooking do we both have to have the ingredients to cook or just one of us?

[vivid oar]

You both need to add at least on ingredient or stir/participate in some way so get it, u dont both need ALL ingredients (doesnt matter if u are in a party or not)

[stray sluice]

Ok so we're on my plot, I have all the ingredients and he can just stir, chop, flip and all that?? Correct @vivid oar

[alpine cliff]

Each person needs at least one ingredient, if I'm not mistaken.

[vivid oar]

Certain actions yes, like puting something already crafted in the oven, or combining things that have been chopped already

[azure delta]

My friend and I found out as long as someone does an action that isn't just adding the final ingrediants at the end, it'll count for both players

For eg. Petit Fives, if the person only adds the final ingredients at the end, it doesn't count. But if they simply stir something, it'll count.

[mint sierra]

For food recipes that require stirring, it is working - your friends receive the equal quantity of the dish

but if they don't contribute towards pan fried foods or for the oven baked they won't get a share, if it involves stirring then it will .. if that makes sense.

[azure delta]

Yeah, it was an example. Actions like flipping, baking, stirring count for someone if they don't contribute ingredients but if they only add the finished ingredients at the end of the process, they don't get rewarded.

[mint sierra]

what is guaranteed is contributing at least one ingredient gives each player an equal share of the food.

Foods that require stirring action work to give players equal share -- as long as the person without an ingredient stirs the pots, bowls.

Other foods wont give a share - if its merely baking or flipping pan. They will need to contribute an ingredient

[azure delta]

Just ran a test with a friend using stuffed tomatoes. I did all the chopping and she added ingredients at the end and did the final flip. It counted for both of us. She didn't have to contribute any ingredients.

[mint sierra]

because its possible it auto drew one of her ingredients - ie: butter in the case of stuffed tomato.

[azure delta]

I'm pretty sure since I started the recipe, I contribute the butter. I just had them join my plot after I was done chopping, and they added the chopped ingredients, did the final flip, and got the stuffed tomatoes.

[mint sierra]

As a person who spends most of her time, helping new players with all skills , leveling up etc , when It comes to cooking, I keep reminding players you do not need to carry ingredients in order to cook, the mini game auto draws from your inventory, unless ofc you have them in locked inventory, it cannot.

You also as friends added, can access your own storage from friends plots. But only if you are friends.

Ingredients, such as oil, flour, sugar, salt , butter ,vinegar, egg, milk & soy sauce, these get auto drawn.

Respectfully I am not here to debate this point -- I just spend time out of each day of my life helping new players repeatedly and I can only state facts of how the game works.

[loud axle]

It's tough to say how things work when sometimes they don't work at all. :x

[mint sierra]

The mechanics are fun right roan

[loud axle]

Cooking? It was okay, probably the most interactive thing there is but I never spent much time doing it. Focus is a waste

[mint sierra]

Its all great, but same I honestly can't say I would be doing much cooking either if it wasn't for helping new players on a daily.

[west marlin]

I hate the chopping

The rest is fine
Honestly if they wanted to improve co-op cooking they'd put a prompt in game that reminded you of you already contributed to the active recipe

[mint sierra]

There is much to improve on an overall total for Palia, I hope they get there one day soon

The little things count for sure 🙂

[wanton flare]

i had someone help me get all the food achievements without having any ingredients and recipes like the sushi which i'm still missing

[vivid oar]

I sent this in as a suggestion, it would be so useful

[azure delta]

It's been pointed out that the last patch notes have been updated about the pink dragon being added to Zeki's later.

[signal kayak]

still really stupid, why buy the product when the exact same plush just with a different name will be available for free later? especially if you can't drink energy drinks or dislike the flavor of the drink

[waxen mauve]

I would love cooking to be clearer about what you have left to do/what you have already done

[marsh depot]

A lot of people were really upset about it too.

[scarlet hazel]

when ppl said something, this is the exact opposite entirely

[marsh depot]

They really cornered themselves into this situation, trying to appease to both sides but failing altogether. I don't really care for the Madrigal's collab but I'm not a fan of the potentially misleading way it's been done.

[scarlet hazel]

its like they hear one thing, but then just do their own thing with what theyve been told and then suddenly are surprised when people are angry

[signal kayak]

the purple dragon should have stayed with the collab, if you want it buy it or wait to see if someone would be willing to trade it later, if you don't then don't, but i just don't see spending however much money the energy drink is to get the plush in game, when like i said, you don't like energy drinks or you don't like the flavor of the drink

[marsh depot]

I'll say, for the 1 time it feels like they're listening, there's 9 others they definitely don't. In one ear, and out the other.

[signal kayak]

so, s6 is reddit? /jk

[wary quest]

I'm confused - would the plush not be identical except in name? That's what I've picked up from snippets.

[signal kayak]

that's what it seems based on the snippit from the update about it. it's the same plush, just with a different name

[azure delta]

Supposed to look the same, just have a different in game name. It doesn't help it's been updated after the launch so people who don't follow the discord or go back to the patch notes weeks after don't know it's not an exclusive collab item

[wary quest]

I'm struggling to see how that's a bad thing, then. You'd get it later, don't have to buy energy drinks if that's not your jam

Someone could ping me with a possible explanation? I really don't see why, but would love to have the perspective on why, but at the same time I gotta sleep

[signal kayak]

because it comes off as the collab plush is exclusive as it says that it's time-exclusive, which comes across to people that it can only be gotten through the promotion, i would be very angry if i had bought the energy drink for the exclusivity of the plush, only to find out later that the same plush i spent irl money on could have been gotten for free. that's how i see it

[ivory vessel]

basically what i understood was it WAS gonna be just a collab item, then when it launched a lot of people became upset because this doesn't really go with S6's policies of not creating FOMO + madrinas doesn't ship worldwide so putting aside the pay IRL -> get ingame item, a lot of people simply can't get it because they don't live in the few areas madrinas ships to, so they offered the middle ground of a second plushie which can be normally obtained ingame. but that wasn't without a lot of complaints, and also they never bothered to correct the campaign to clarify that people don't have to buy it because they'll be able to get it for free later

[lyric night]

making the plush available in zekis wondrous machine is basically a good reaction on our feedback for the last madrinas collab
the communication on the other hand was bad

[wary quest]

Did some other things, hadn't gone off yet. That makes more sense, thank you 😄
I haven't been paying much attention to it - either way, buying it is not an option. I had also been under the impression it was always a "yeah you can get it later under a different name" , but I'd guess it wasn't afterall

[azure delta]

The way they promoted it was bad all around. Some players might buy the collab and find out months later they could've gotten the plush (without spending 25 dollars) in-game. The Chapaa stackable is still a exclusive that can only be bought so to make the switch but still advertise it like the previous collab feels scummy.

[ivory vessel]

granted when i, in a heated moment, first said that -- that they changed their minds about the collab plushie being exclusive -- WC said that wasn't true. so take that however you like -- either they did change their minds to appease to our feedback and don't want to admit it (and give themselves a pat in the back for listening, but oh well), or they knew all along they were creating a misleading campaign and tripled down on it (because they didn't update all the campaigns to explain the item isn't exclusive then, and still haven't)

#🌟│sixer-tracker message he said they will be identical.

[azure delta]

WC said it'd look the same, just have a different in-game name. It hasn't been communicated if there will be any difference yet.

[signal kayak]

and that's what bugs me about it

[ivory vessel]

transparency still continues to not be their forte

[signal kayak]

which is why people got fussy faced about it, people spending irl money on something that they probably would not spend money on irl for a code for a plush in game only to find out later after the collab has ended that they could get the same plush for free in game

[ivory vessel]

and, peeps? if it turns out the two plushies are not identical...

heh. i wouldn't wanna be WC...

[azure delta]

It's still being advertised by Madrinas' Facebook and Website like a exclusive collab so people won't know it'll be released later in game unless they go looking for that information. If they make them different, it'll upset both sides

[signal kayak]

yeah, if they decide after the promotion to re-size the plush and do the maji dragon plush/mini plush situation that Ciri mentioned, then people who were waiting for the free version of the plush would be upset by it

[azure delta]

There's just no winning but it's a situation they created. I don't agree with them making this switch with a paid collab but I don't see how they can fix it without releasing collab items later if they want to avoid FOMO. If they made it a log-in reward so it was still an exclusive, maybe. But Zeki's is a odd choice to me.

[ivory vessel]

you can find posts on palia's own social media pages that use the word 'exclusive'

[brave oriole]

i just realized sifuus arched brow is painted in her texture, not moved in the rig

[thick wagon]

cursed

also im confused the fluffoxes are not on sale? but are still 850?

[lyric night]

flutterfoxes are 850 by default bcs they don't have a trick emote
all other pets have a trick emote, that's why they are priced at 1275

[thick wagon]

i know

but there suppos to be 50% off right know right?

oh nevermind...im dumb..

[topaz otter]

@thick wagon The ferret can do nothing more than hop around and sit down from time to time... It's cute, but it's not really worth the money for the animation of it sitting down and looking cute. I was also thinking about getting one of these Kitsuu... But the price really put me off. It just wags its tail...

[thick wagon]

:(

[marsh depot]

I agree, It's cute but it's not enough to justify the price tag.

I think for the price of that one pet I can get a battlepass in another game.

[warm python]

Have they made an announcement about it? Because I imagine 99+% of the playerbase has zero reason to look at an old patch note

[azure delta]

Nope, just quietly edited to appease the masses once they realise it's not an exclusive and go back to the notes

[scarlet hazel]

no i dont think an announcement was made. they really dont get how most gaming customers are like

[topaz otter]

@thick wagon @marsh depot It would be nice if you could interact with the pets or use them for something. But that's not planned yet. I now have 5 pets in my possession and change them every now and then. I feel kind of sorry for them. They don't really have a purpose other than to run around with you. Sometimes they get in the way because they're sitting around somewhere where you're building something or planting or cooking. That's not well thought out.

[marsh depot]

Yeah, they really limited themselves with their whole monetization concept. Since all cosmetics are behind a paywall, none of them can have any gameplay mechanic in order to keep it "fair" to F2P players. So, the pets have very little function aside from just.. following you.

[warm python]

I can't imagine people are going to be happy finding this out later on when the free version gets put in the game and they weren't aware of the issue

communication

[marsh depot]

The few that caught on early and complained about it in the discord were really not happy

[warm python]

Oh I remember that lmao

[marsh depot]

But yeah, if I was them, I'd definitely want a refund lol

[topaz otter]

@marsh depot Yes, that's a shame. They're all so cute! But you just can't use them. In real life, pets aren't just accessories either. I'm sure it would be feasible. Maybe it will come...

[azure delta]

Unfortunately, the people who did buy it will be told it's advertised as a "time-exclusive", not an "exclusive to the collab exclusive" and that they received the product with promotion as advertised.

[marsh depot]

Sadly yeah. They will shield themselves with as much jargon as they can. Which will only make people lose even more trust in the company.

[azure delta]

Nothing like paying 24.99 to receive the right to display a plushie 6 months before the rest of the player base

[marsh depot]

Hopefully, someone had typed out a concept for having a little playpen for the pets at your plot but I also don't see them doing anything with it. We can only dream at this point.

[topaz otter]

At the moment, they're doing everything wrong. The idea of a nice “cozy game” is being watered down more and more. There's a lack of content to keep people in the game, a lack of incentives to keep playing. The market is boring as hell ... etc. Once you've completed all the quests (and the last main quests in an hour), you have nothing left to do - except the weekly challenges. It's really boring. And you get the impression that they just want to make money. I bought BG3 for 60 € and would have had fun with it for years! In Palia, I can get rid of €60 very quickly and get practically nothing in return. Cheeky, without limits.

[signal kayak]

there's a difference between "cozy" and whatever palia's trying to do "cozy"

[marsh depot]

cozyn't

[marsh depot]

but i agree, at this point i'm getting more cozyness out of Raft

[signal kayak]

i just feel like there's no challenge in palia, because even though i've never played it (as i'm a console girl more than pc master race girl) but from videos that i've seen.... 7 days to die seems more cozy than palia

[limpid root]

The only upside of the Madrinas thing is you don't have to fight the inevitable RNG slot machine for it.

But still not worth it imo.

[topaz otter]

@signal kayak Oh yes, they should urgently revise their game description. How about “MMO where you don't have to fight, but can look good? Or build houses, which gives you absolutely nothing?” Let's be honest: I have so many reputation points now that I can't cash them in because there's simply no way to do so. Everyone is waiting for Elderwood. But I'm afraid this expansion will only be fun for a few hours. There's probably a lot more useless stuff yet to buy from Jel in the store then.

[marsh depot]

The challenge is wading through the multiple bugs /j
But yeah, I am just a pc gamer (my only console was the Wii) and having played other cozy games and MMO's, it misses the mark on both. There's not enough rewarding systems to keep players engaged.

[azure delta]

I'm going to be pretty salty if they decide to put the RTB plush as a RTB catch reward when they switched Tish's quest from a ruby to a aquamarine because "it's too difficult" but catching the butterfly isn't...

[signal kayak]

that plush had better be a 100% drop rate or at the bare minimum a 25% guaranteed drop. the butterfly is already hard to find, especially when everyone is running around. it will be 10000% worse with the plush

[azure delta]

Should be a guaranteed drop if they actually tie them together

[topaz otter]

I wonder how many times you have to catch a rainbow-tipped butterfly to get this plushie.... It's actually a joke, isn't it? I must have had to catch 500 moths to get one of these stupid moon moth plushies. The same goes for the paper lantern worms. I still haven't got a stag beetle, even though I must have caught 1000 of them. Pointless...

[azure delta]

I got my starred ruby before I got my first RTB. Was maybe 300 hours in before I got my starred RTB. I know two people who still haven't got one for their bundles

[marsh depot]

To this day the starred RTB eludes me. I got the sernuk plushies in less than 5 attempts and my first regular RTB on my first day of playing. But I long since gave up on the starred one and I won't even bother with the plushie.

[azure delta]

If we ever get the ability to trade starred bugs, hit me up. In 1200 hours, my count is now 4 starred RTBs.

[topaz otter]

I must have had to collect 1000 oysters for Einar's last little stone in the oyster. Long live the grind! This has nothing to do with the “cozy game”. Unfortunately.

[scarlet hazel]

i bet the butterfly is gonna have bahari bay and the discord look like a war zone. just waiting for the inevitable

[marsh depot]

Oh I'd appreciate that so much if they ever do I surely will!

[azure delta]

I expect in-game chat to hit new levels of toxic. I'm praying the devs don't curse us with that fate

[marsh depot]

And that quest is still very bugged too

[topaz otter]

I have 10 RTB in my inventory but without a star. 😉

[scarlet hazel]

given their track record with every plush so far... its gonna happen

[azure delta]

Offer still stands I'm willing to spread my luck

[lethal granite]

why we never played together?

edit: that was meant as a question

imagine an rtb plush being the thing that gets me to play the game again 🫠

it’s a bad idea. it’ll end up being:

• rtbs spawn way more often, which means they’re no longer the super rare thing that gives you excitement when they spawn, or
• rtb spawn rate (which had increased a ton already since last summer then got reeled back into about halfway between how rare they were when i first started playing and when they’d spawn all the time) is increased a bunch

either way, you’ll have a ton of people running through southern bahari trying for it, and it’s just… a bad idea?

[warm python]

Oh dear god it really is gonna be a bloodbath isn't it. People already flip out over accidentally running past them while hunting animals/bugs

[azure delta]

Or having the butterfly disappear magically into the cliff

[warm python]

I hope it's tied to something else than catching those things cause..... oof

[lethal granite]

make it a fairy mantis plush instead. prettier and spawn rate isn’t so wild. (if they insist on epic bug plushes)

[warm python]

I want to say "clearly they have to see, looking at the community, why this is a Bad Idea if implemented this way" but

/gestures to everything

[lethal granite]

ig we should be grateful it’s not a jewelwing for that reason alone…

[azure delta]

RTB image despawned just like in game

[lethal granite]

the rng for epic bugs has been being played with for a while now. like eilkahn said, they disappear into cliffs. ig the same is true for magic huntables, but the rarity of the bugs is kind of why people don’t usually go out of their way to get them unless they’re looking for them specifically?

i took the time when the chapaa plushes were announced to ask in discord if anyone needed any southern bahari bugs bc i assumed the sudden influx of plush hunters who used to spend their time up north would affect the ability of newer players to get them. and it did!

if it truly is rtb plush, i… don’t even know how to react. it’s just gonna be chaos.

[polar elbow]

there is no way that the introduction of a rainbow tipped butterfly plush isn't going to turn things into a hellscape of toxicity IMO
no one is going to want to call it out when doing so means someone will almost certainly show up and carelessly spook it into fleeing/despawning, but the playerbase as a whole will still expect the person who finds it to call it out (because "etiquette") and wait for everyone else to show up before even trying to catch it themselves

[azure delta]

I don't expect anyone to call out a RTB and wait. The risk of someone coming by and spooking it is too great

[polar elbow]

that's what I'm saying. Anyone who actually finds one will not want to wait. They will take no chances and go for capturing it immediately.
However, there is a large portion of the player population that treats made-up "etiquette" as law and will viciously attack anyone who does so because they feel entitled to call-outs, just look at the constant friction around flow groves and multiply that by 100 >>

[vagrant lotus]

lol I guess I said a naughty word so my original message got borked

I definitely don't want this to become the expectation because calling it out and having 15 people show up to the spot is almost guaranteed to make someone angry for running across the map and it got spooked by the first responder

we already have people that call out a disco deer and the people running to find it don't bother to look and end up scaring it across the map lmao

[azure delta]

Very true, I meant to really say I agree with that sentiment. I don't expect people to have "etiquette" but I do know the player base gets testy when unspoken rules are broken. Hell, I remember getting chewed out because I took down a disco deer and someone came into the hunt but didn't get their arrow in before my final hit Like, at least it respawns constantly vs the RTB. RTB spawns are also right where the new players get introduced to the bay so they're not going to realize it's a rare bug.

[vagrant lotus]

yeah I don't get the chewing players out for anything at all, nearly everything in the game is a resource that respawns every 3 minutes to an hour.

[spark haven]

^^ anytime my mom and I play we try to call out bugs or creatures that are hard to come by, its easier that way for everyone imo

[scarlet hazel]

yeah. it shouldnt be a thing but people treat palia like its their actual house so entitlement has exploded and become the main thing in the game

[spark haven]

NGL sadly it happens with every game- so far my experience with this community has been amazing but there will always be a few sour apples in the bunch

[scarlet hazel]

yeah. i try not to let the sour apples ruin my experiences but its been way too hard with palia

[wide hound]

(Until you find out you scared an animal/bug by mistake and half the server is hating on you)

[azure delta]

My experience has been a mixed bag. I got chewed out twice for going near honey lures starting out so I thought that was normal and avoided lures like the plague. When I put them down to level up my bug hunting, I'd ask people who joined to avoid standing in the centre to not startle the spawns. Learned that it's best to just wait for the honey lure to end and swap servers if I'm hunting for something specific.

[lethal granite]

sounds nice.

[loud axle]

It's just a symptom of how poorly designed everything in this game is :x

Nothing should "despawn" when it's scared away, only if it's actively being hunted. Stuff might run away for a bit but it should stop once it's not near anyone again. Voila, problem solved.

[lethal granite]

back atcha! i wish more folks had the same perspective as you tbh.

the amount of times i’ve gotten to grove first, called it out by 12:30 in game at the latest, said, “guess we can chop” at 2:30 yet still had people in game insist that “waiting until 3” must be adhered to is absolutely bonkers to me.

that players are making up rules is just a symptom of poor design. like waiting in line at the underground spinny wheel thingy — “cutting in line” is not against the rules at all, yet seen as a slight bc… they only made two wheels available.

[loud axle]

For the groves, the location should be shown before the actual spawn time so people can call it out and be ready at the location when it spawns.

[azure delta]

I never understood the grove rule. An hour in game is 2 1/2 minutes. Nobody wants to stand around for 7 1/2 minutes waiting for a resource.

[loud axle]

None of this waiting around for 5 minutes thing.

[marsh depot]

Bonus points if said people never said they were on their way (I know not everyone uses chat and chat is harder on switch but I'm referring to the players who will chew others out for not "waiting").

[polar elbow]

Palia presents itself as a cozy game where everyone helps each other and sharing is encouraged, yet the way the resources are designed/implemented breeds friction because you can both share a resource AND "steal" it from someone else.
If they want to encourage the former, don't design resources in a way where one player can deny that resource to another, just add bonuses for multiple people gathering together instead. >>

[lethal granite]

thiiis. don’t get me wrong, i’ve actually used the grove spawn noise to help train my ear/adjust to new headphones/aides. i’m probably the person who is most equipped to argue for them. but… there’s basically the rush of being “first” there, which the epic spawns promote. then there’s the guardians of the 3 am rule, or the party of people that cut it down and don’t call it out so people spend a bunch of time searching for it when it’s been gone for a while… it just seems… poorly implemented.

[vagrant lotus]

what puzzles me is that it's supposed to be cozy but nothing really evokes cozy about the way (especially the groves work) but all the resources spawn and you as the player have the option to call it out to everyone and everyone gets it, but you also have the option to take it and go. If the point of the game is to be sharing with others, why is the grove something that needs "finding", why is it able to be taken by only 2 people if it's super strong magic tree wood? why is it just not choppable until 3? furthermore, idk what can be done about the ore system but I'm tired of hearing in chat other players tell other players that it's "rude" to not call out pal ore in chat

[marsh depot]

Ngl I am like, the complete opposite of a magnet for those plushies, I pretend they do not exist and only got a few as gifts

[marsh depot]

I never understood why they didn't just give flow trees the same treatment as mining nodes, they'd have solved so many of these issues just doing that.

[lethal granite]

||meeks luck is real, pass it on 🗣️ ||

we should have!

[azure delta]

I am one of the " bad" players who never carry flares so I don't ever call out pal I refuse to make flares. Also, pal spawns enough so I don't blame players for not flaring it

[vagrant lotus]

I have this sort of idea for what I'm working on but it's not sparkly trees lol

[marsh depot]

My luck in the game comes in the form of epic fishes/bugs, but yes

[lethal granite]

well, dip, i suppose i have nothing to contribute to your gameplay. other than maybe an occasional quip you might find amusing.

shucks.

[vagrant lotus]

I flare large pal in accessible areas, but if it's small or medium or in a ridiculous place, I'll just take it and move on

[azure delta]

Does size matter with gemstones? I got my rubies from small pals, haven't gotten anything good from the big ones.

[vagrant lotus]

the rocks you hit have a gemstone for everyone?

[azure delta]

Or is it the same drop from everyone on a node?

[vagrant lotus]

I was about to say cause I get gems from all size stones

[azure delta]

How does this game work? I still see arguments over if the person who drops the lure gets all bugs even if they don't hit them and it hurts my brain.

That's what I thought but I've been told that was wrong a few times so I just grab things every 100 bombs or so

[vagrant lotus]

idk the game hurts my brain but I guess it makes sense cause if you're in a party you all get the same rewards and how could you get the same rewards unless the rng is tied to the server/world and not the player itself

but then again you could just adjust the rng so that when players are in a party it's tied to eachother and keep the normal rng player based

[azure delta]

I would think the rng is different for nodes but if it is the same drops, then it's similar to the animals so once they spawn, they roll and are set.

[marsh depot]

Oh my apologies, I didn't mean it that way, I would appreciate all the help I could get getting those, never hurts having a bit extra luck 🫂

[azure delta]

That makes sense since despawn time is set for 3 or 5 minutes while lures last 10ish

[lethal granite]

no! i was being self-deprecating and it came off as serious when i didn’t intend for it to!! i should’ve tone tagged the heck out of that, that’s my bad. we are good, fren!

[swift token]

I've been gone for a few months. Just coming back.

Did they change Groves now? They used to just stay there.

They can disappear like the bugs now? 😬

That's horrible 😮‍💨

[azure delta]

No, groves still work. Flow trees on plots are broken though.

[hard basin]

Grove stays and still works, two can be spawned on the same map if they stay un-chopped. You probably encounter the already chopped grove but the effect stays and disperses away when you come close.

[polar elbow]

No, that post was referring to the rainbow tipped butterflies disappearing when spooked, and comparing the drama/fighting that may occur from that, to probably being "100x worse than what we see at flow groves" every now and then
Flow groves still work as-is, but when people are having fights over them- a stationary resource that spawns at a set time every hour and doesn't disappear until harvested- ...just imagine how much worse the fighting might get over a rare critter that can flee+despawn just from someone getting too close to it. 😬

[swift token]

I havnt experienced them disappearing. I was asking ^_^

[polar elbow]

The reason people are talking about fights over rainbow tipped butterflies now, is because a plushie of the butterfly was seen in the latest video/teaser for next update. People kind of... go crazy over those plushes >>

[swift token]

Was playing most of today and they seemed to be working fine, so the comparison confused me, lol. That's all! 🫰

[polar elbow]

confusion's cleared up now at least, I hope?

[swift token]

Sure

Hopefully they adjust the mechanics, as has been mentioned.

[rancid birch]

I am pretty sure the loot is rng and it isn't tied to a particular node. Reason I say this is I have been in a party and had the other person too far away so they missed the last smash of the node and when they smashed it got entirely different loot including getting a gemstone that I hadn't gotten from my loot.

[copper warren]

yeah, unfortunately it's all rng upon the node's break ;A; when i got my starred ruby, someone else near me didn't when they mined it, and if it was the case i would have been HOLLERING for others. i don't think size matters for gemstones, either, just that they have potential to drop more loot as a whole from its drop table if they're bigger, which artificially raises your chances

[sand laurel]

Is anyone else experiencing the issue of not being able to place things on top of furniture anymore? Like I had some plants on my night stand went to customize the color and now when I go to put them back it says invalid placement location

[dark moon]

Unfortunately it's a placement bug. There may already being an open ticket but I'd recommend sending in your photos as well

!support

[opal cypress]

Here's a link to the Player Support: http://support.palia.com/

[sand laurel]

Thank you I'll fs send in my pics! I hope it's fixed soon for now I'll just wait to finish customizing my furniture bc I hate not being able to put it back 😂💀💖

[quartz kestrel]

Sorry for dragging it up from that long ago: That grove thing isn't a rule. It's more of a social convention that formed among players. Same like with lining up at the prize wheels.

It can't be enforced and it's nice of people to adhere to it, but it's no rule of the game itself. 3am/pm are just arbitrary points in time.

Also: frog

https://tenor.com/view/frog-hat-gif-24889203

[brisk spruce]

some people will report you if you don't follow the "rule" though, that's always fun to see

[quartz kestrel]

Heard that a couple of times so far.

[brisk spruce]

I just blocked a group of people who were bragging & laughing about reporting people who cut in line at the wheel the other day lmao and I've seen it at least a dozen times between groves/hotpot/wheel in the last year... and I've barely played in that time

[quartz kestrel]

One more reason to not look at the chat ;P

[weak wigeon]

[brisk spruce]

oh I saw that too

[weak wigeon]

where do you guys spend your tickets when you already bought everything?

[brisk spruce]

I just stopped playing once I got everything I wanted tbh

[quartz kestrel]

Snakes, lamps, the fruit stand and the lanterns

[wary quest]

Fruit stand?

[weak wigeon]

it's a pole with baskets of fruit hanging

[quartz kestrel]

You can get it at delaila's stand

[pallid ferry]

Save them for next year. They should roll over.

[weak wigeon]

there won't be too much new stuff tho 😦 if i save them i'll prob go to the event once, buy the (probably single item) stuff they add and ignore it until it ends :((

[dire reef]

Next year won't be the Year of the snake so it will be different as this year is the year of the snake.

[marsh depot]

The only items that won't come back will be the naga plushie, the nameplate and I'm guessing that new wallpaper. The rest of the items were from the previous LNY.

[marsh depot]

Once I get everything I want I usually just try to get starred food (as much of a waste as it is, please S6 just make them obtainable for gold instead).

[weak wigeon]

yeah, it takes sooo long sometimes! I got everything on the 1st market but it took a lot of tickets

[shy ocean]

hmm, my floor tiles want to go below the ground when i try to freestyle place them 🤔

guess i just use blocks for now instead

[azure delta]

@tulip anvil @vagrant lotus I actually busted out my old rig to test if a gem node is a thing if you're not partied. Used my alt and it looks like loot roles per person, not per node spawn. Parties are still shared loot from the same node.

I was curious and wondering if I should carry around flares for it

I also did a run showing what happens if someone without ingredients joins mid-cooking, adds the prepped ingredients and does a cook action.

This is the result if someone only adds the prepped ingredients

Also a useless piece of information, it takes 10 days to grow a full tree. 3 days of watering to hit young stage, 3 days to hit medium, and 4 days to hit large.

[young plank]

good to know!

[scarlet hazel]

so it takes about 10 hours give or take

[azure delta]

Which is why it feels like a long time to grow a tree...because it is. A tree growth booster would be nice to buy from Ashura one day.

[scarlet hazel]

or sprinklers

[azure delta]

True, it would be easy to implement since we don't gain exp from watering.

[scarlet hazel]

yeah. just copy a sprinkler system from another game. lots of games do it

[azure delta]

Could easily give Subira a shop where she sells magically items that around allowed by the Order. Like a nursery that'll auto-grow a sapling or flowers. Or even let Zeki sells us illegal magic machines from the UG

[scarlet hazel]

yep. many ways to give things in the style of the worlds lore...

[lyric night]

• another 5 to get the tree seed back

[azure delta]

Ah, I always forget we can get the seeds back. I never water them to that point and just go out on a tree murder spree if I want more seeds 😂

[fluid bridge]

I know devs are working on the next big update for Palia but do you think there will be more story progression and quests?

Asking cuz there honestly hasn't been any hints of anything other than a new area being added.

[lyric night]

they said elderwoods will come with main story, the actual beginning of the main story, what we had now was all just the prologue
u can basically expect everything
new bugs, new fish, new forage, new ore, new NPCs, new main story etc.

[fluid bridge]

Oooh okay. Thank you. I've been trying to keep up with information but hadn't really seen anything more about it other than the introduction of the Elderwoods.

[vagrant lotus]

Super neat! thats great to know, thanks for your inquisitive nature!

That's a much better system than what I was thinking it was haha

[sleek abyss]

I hope they add new clothing that can be easily bought from Jel bc prem coins be so expensivee zzz

[signal kayak]

they have said that they will not have any free or earnable cosmetics

[vagrant oracle]

I love the puns Badruu uses lol

[midnight grail]

well, i have 3 more achievements left (technically 5)

one is the gotta gets paid IV and V (still dunno how to reasonably get that last one)

then there's housewarming hero IV and V

and finally makeshift is all mine. i've been hunting for that achievement for so long and yet i am still 3 items short

anyone have advice for what to do

wait actually i still need to craft 1,000 decor items and got about 600 of them done

[signal kayak]

which three items are you missing?

[midnight grail]

they're blacked out so i can't really tell

not that it matters because it's all RNG

[signal kayak]

did you get the ones from the underground?

[midnight grail]

yeah

i think one of the items looked liked a hay baleish thing, another kind of looked like a shelf

[shell shoal]

hi and good morning from Germany

why is my Char a girl now??

[marsh depot]

it's a somewhat common bug, you can change it back at the mirror in Jel's shop (but be warned, you can only use it to change character's features once a week, it'll reset on Sunday)

[shell shoal]

ok thx

[fiery sphinx]

For future reference, usually when that happens, if you change maps immediately, it will go back to normal. If you use the wardrobe or log out, then the change will stick and you'll definitely have to use the wardrobe to change back.

[icy timber]

Is the ability to unlock the gazebo for purchase having a problem right now? I have 4 housing slots, 2 were free, the other two I bought with in game currency.

[hard basin]

You need to buy one more slot to unlock gazebo and Housing slots II accomplishment

[signal kayak]

the ones that were free don't count towards the achievement

[icy timber]

Okay, thank you. I didn't want to do that unless it would for sure be worth it.

[feral cloak]

Anyone want help getting hotpot wins? We need one more person.

[mighty wedge]

I've been stuck by myself in the same server for over two hours. my chat isn't working, but I've got two groves if anyone wants to add me and help chop them.

[steady fox]

You still need a hand?

[mighty wedge]

pls, that'd be awesome. the first grove is in outskirts and the other is f3.

[steady fox]

i got you! request sent

[mighty wedge]

yay thank you!

[steady fox]

were you able to accept? nothing is showing on my end

[mighty wedge]

it shows i've added you, but maybe i should just let the groves go.

[steady fox]

Hmm, yeah, mine's being weird. I tried reloading servers and the game and you aren't poppin' up

Sorryyy

[mighty wedge]

no it's all good. thank you for trying!

[weak wigeon]

We need to be able to dye the ceilings, pillars and window frames... it just ruins the vibe 😠

[stray sluice]

I've been visiting homes with tour and I see that people have flow trees on their plots?? How do they get them?

[hard basin]

By completing the ||Roots Bundle|| will reward you a ||Galdur Statue|| that will drop seed each irl day with the chance of dropping ||Flow seed|| that you can grow like normal tree

[stray sluice]

Currently in the sewers and there are hotpot tables, some called it a spam table??? What the heck is that?

[rare pine]

It's when people spam click (or spam A) to draw and discard fast so the game ends quickly. It's easier to farm wheel tokens that way.

[dusty drum]

Woah that’s sick

(Awesome sauce even)

[marsh depot]

Right?? It took The Sims almost 10 years to give us this... The ceilings always bothered me too

You could also try and make a flower ceiling but idk if that's still working

[olive carbon]

Additional note, folks also need to finish the quest ||A Gardeners New Oneness || as well in order to have the ||flow seed|| chance drop from the statue

[marsh depot]

Thisss, I didn't know this and took me lie, 2 months to realise

[glacial knot]

coming back from a yr break, i have been putting in a bit of work and progression feels very slow. is it just me?? i didnt get very far in open beta like others, i assume things speed up once all skills are 10?

[young plank]

Remember to hit up the shrines. Theres the phoneix shrine to up your xp progress (i level really fast because im 100% with the shrine. Theres also the dragon one to up your focus bar if you ever feel like you need more focus.

[glacial knot]

I have been going to the phoenix for xp, yes. I'm at 85% at the moment. I'd really like to get it to 100 asap though. I assume questing should help with renown?

money is also tight and the timed processing for preserves feels like forever

im hoping its a sloped process where things start to pick up gradually. rn it feels super unrewarding

[scarlet hazel]

getting max tools is super fast. everything else is just, a lot lot more slower

[native smelt]

are there any perks to boosting this server? i just swapped one of mine over and nothing really changed

[glacial knot]

yeah, i gotta remind myself of that LOL

im very used to general mmorpg grind

[scarlet hazel]

dont think so, no

[glacial knot]

yeah there isnt a boost role afaik

[young plank]

Yeah not this game some things take time. Like once it took me a full irl week to catch every starred fish and that was me putting in 8+ hours every day fishin

[native smelt]

welp imma yoink that back then LOL

[scarlet hazel]

lol

[glacial knot]

oh dang!

[acoustic jungle]

Do you think they will ever add weather features? Like rain etc? That would be so nice

[scarlet hazel]

with how unoptimized the game is, weather would probably destroy a lot of systems

[umbral lynx]

Rip switch users if they did

[acoustic jungle]

Lol I’m a switch user so I feel the struggle 🤣

[scarlet hazel]

some ppl with super good computers struggle to run this game somehow rip....

[midnight grail]

wish i could get these last three makeshift things...

[scarlet hazel]

just gotta keep grinding sadly

[midnight grail]

not sure what they are

[scarlet hazel]

makeshift shelf, pagoda and makeshift seat

[midnight grail]

it feels like the more chests i fish up the harder it is to complete the set

[acoustic jungle]

Does anything increase your chances of fishing a chest?

[scarlet hazel]

no not really. glow worms are suspected to do that

[acoustic jungle]

Ty!

[midnight grail]

i think fishing in hotspots also increases the chances. anything else

[rare lion]

Guys i'm having trouble with the game in the start screen, it's normal?

[midnight grail]

i think i also reached a point where i don't even need focus food anymore

[rare pine]

I'm convinced the makeshift indoor garden doesn't even exist.

[midnight grail]

after reaching level 50 in every skill you get all the trophies and achievements for that skill so there's little need to continue levelling up

yeah except you only get 10 guild coins per level up. it's far more efficient to just do the weekly skill achievements for guild coins

[rare pine]

Being able to buy guild coins would be a decent gold sink.

[midnight grail]

zeki coins are fine as a gold sink

[rare pine]

Eh.... I don't really like the gacha machine. I've never bought zeki coins because if I spent 10,000 to get some milk, I'd crash out

[midnight grail]

that's the whole point of a gold sink. you don't really need the coins that badly so you can dump it on zeki coins

[marsh depot]

Unless you're not interested in the zeki coins I think the point was different gold sinks would be nicer

[midnight grail]

i still wish we could sell furniture

[vagrant lotus]

also some people hit the gold cap and have nothing else to buy but furniture buy zeki coins by the truckload lmao

[midnight grail]

or trade it like plushies i guess

[rare pine]

I don't even wanna sell it, just give it away

[midnight grail]

why is furniture making the only skill where we can't sell the things we make with it

[rare pine]

It's honestly silly because there's really no benefit. It's just something to put in your house/yard

[marsh depot]

I just dump all my money into buildings and furniture but yeah, it gets boring. If they gave us the ability to purchase the LNY/Maji Market tickets with gold (something like, 10k for 1k tickets or something like that and have Zeki be the one offering the ability to do so)

[pseudo hull]

Purchasing tickets with gold would be a cool option I think. Also on the topic of Maji Market...anyone know if the tickets carry over to the next round?

[rare pine]

Mine carried over from the last one. So I guess

[marsh depot]

They do!

[pseudo hull]

ty both! I was thinking so but just wanted to be sure

[clever rivet]

Any idea why 3D resolution is always reseted to 85% ? I can't set to 100%

Likewise, I can't switch between windowed and full screen, every other time it doesn't work and I keep getting the tutorial.

[fiery sphinx]

Odds are that it's just another case of the UI not showing what the correct setting is. But it could be that it's not saving the settings. The settings UI is trash, basically. You can go into C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local\Palia\Saved\Config\WindowsClient and open the file GameUserSettings.ini, find where it says sg.ResolutionQuality= under [ScalabilityGroups] and change it to 100 instead of 85.

[clever rivet]

thanks I'll test !

It seems to work! Thanks

[pallid ferry]

I'd settle for clouds that go overhead, instead of spinning around us.

[copper warren]

in the early phases of pokemon scarlet/violet's lifespan, the weather killed the framerate so bad you'd be convinced that spain runs like a powerpoint presentation in real life. if a company nintendo owns 1/3 of and collaborates closely with the 2nd party developers that makes the games can't make weather work without framerate shenanigans, i'm not putting my bets all in on S6

[glacial knot]

gotta love the good ol sky dome

[vagrant lotus]

apparently it's not enough to wait to chop until 3am, me and like 2 players got yelled at for chopping at like 4:45 when nobody answered "anyone else coming?" like twice

I hope the flow trees actually get fixed soon cause I'm just gonna grow them myself and have my friends come over to chop them lol

[copper warren]

man, that sucks. if you don't speak up, don't expect to be accommodated! all you gotta type is "otw", and even on switch that doesn't take long

i've never seen anyone who responded to "otw" with "well hurry up we're still chopping at 3"

(not that it absolutely hasn't happened, but people are definitely kinder than that)

[olive carbon]

Been hearing this more and more lately and to me, it reads like "the trolling is coming from inside the troll cave" like when will this cycle end lmao

[copper warren]

never so long as the entitlement to other's patience without equal respect is on other's minds

[fallow saffron]

Is watering flow trees still bugged?

[copper warren]

it's been pervading a lot of the game's systems. i've seen people get nagged for not being patient/calling out over azure chapaas. man, when they're the only mob that can despawn on you, no one can be blamed for going for it as soon as they see it to avoid others scaring it off.

[copper warren]

yes, staff says they have a fix to go live in 2 days

[limpid root]

I know they said it. But at this point I'll believe it when I see it.

[copper warren]

yeah, that's why i mentioned it was said, not that it will :')

ironic for them to call out the bad vibes by giving off their own bad vibes!

[rare pine]

Resource wars in big 2025? Will Bahari ever know peace?

[copper warren]

well, between the duchess, the ripper, the smugglers, and the flow trees....

[marsh depot]

I guess peace was never an option

[fallow saffron]

[woeful plover]

Listen, I'm ready to make peace today--unless you're from Harvest Meadows!

'Cause Delaila should have won that bake-off and you know it!!

[copper warren]

they GOTTA be bribing the judges

[dark moon]

The bad vibes in bahari make me chop early out of spite. And since chat doesn't work 90% of the time on switch, I don't have to deal with them. I mean, an exquisite axe takes 12 min to cut a big tree. I'm petty and patient, I don't need people for grove if they are going to rood

[copper warren]

heck, eventually someone might come around when you chop that long, so you're doing fine!

i don't really go to groves anymore unless it's once for the weekly. stray flow trees, i'll chop by myself and for the ones that take too long, i'll whack it once, flare it, and then go do something else

i keep chats closed most of the time, unless i have the rare mental faculties for social interaction

[lethal granite]

o: wait, you can cut large flow trees by yourself? or is that a SNC-specific power?

[copper warren]

you can, it just takes super long and i think requires well timed hits (if you click at the right times, you can do a small animation cancel that shortens your chop animation by a bit)

[dark moon]

It takes forever, but once I was on a dead server, it took me a whole hour and 15min to destroy the Grove on my own

[lethal granite]

how did you find the patience 😭

[dark moon]

I get super nervous when I need to ask for help. The anxiety I felt was stronger than the annoyance of solo grove

[turbid delta]

Omgah, I wish I could destroy seeds I just planted. I've messed up my farming grid so many times now and after just 1 click, oh well! Gotta wait 10 in game days!

[dark moon]

I thought you could whack with hoe to destroy

[mint sierra]

You can destroy a crop with a right click on pc or X on switch- but a blueberry bush takes four tiles (2x2) while an apple tree takes 9 (3x3) careful to hit the one you would like removed with your Garden Hoe, so you don't accidently destroy any others.

[turbid delta]

D:

Someone told me I couldn't do it!

[dark moon]

Well, I have whacked a few seeds in my day, so I can guarantee you can

[brisk spruce]

I remember when they added it as a function due to feedback so I can also confirm lol that was a long time ago too 👀

[dark moon]

Sometimes the whacking gets fun, and I get a little too into it with mafia role-playing on my plot.

"So, onion, little toma has been telling me you've been skimping off the top. I thought we were family. This is how we do things on the farm. I'm sorry it over. Hoe-seph, take him out back and whack him and his family. I don't want to be disrespected ever again."

[sleek abyss]

I accidentally planted a blueberry once and didn't know we could destroy it. Had to wait an entire cycle to get rid of it lol

[young plank]

I remember when you couldn't and i planted an apple tree wrong.. boy was i waiting for forever

[dark moon]

When you couldn't move farm plots that had seeds on them so you couldn't hide your mistakes Dx

[azure delta]

Only gripe I have about farming is being level 132 and not getting the ancient pot for Jina's quest yet... I swear they've broken it but they keep telling me it's a 10% drop rate and to keep hoeing

[turbid delta]

Tysm for letting me know! Also tysm @dark moon ! I must've read it on a reddit post or read an old message before they added that. Omgah I'm so bad at doing the farming in this game So many wasted seeds lol. Oh well, at least the farm is fixed

[scarlet hazel]

you know what i hope for? honey replaces a gold bar in the honey lure recipe cause a gold bar makes no sense at all

[dark moon]

Gold is honey for the rich. I'm a newly form human who has been floating as stardust in the god realm.. what do I know about the rich? Except that duchess is evil

[lethal granite]

… not me, after all the time i put into the game, still planting apple trees to make a soil square untilled so i could move it

🫠

WHY DIDN’T ANYONE TELL ME

[weak wigeon]

we need these to be growable!!

And maybe some other variants with flowers on them or something

[turbid delta]

I'm a bit concerned about where the game goes from here. It seems that we have max level gathering tools, ore, wood, and animals to gather. Have the devs discussed the future of the game? I know the new zone is coming out, but has there been hints towards the long term like, adding new higher level resources, dungeon / mines, etc? 🤔

[brisk spruce]

been waiting for those + placeable rocks (like the ones that were on the plot when we start a new account) for ages. thought they might come after the trees... hopes deleted

[lethal granite]

the landscape furniture set (i think that’s what it’s called?) provided some cool stuff (i was glad we finally had access to the log from out behind the daiya farm! i’m not a person who’s into decorating, but i always loved that thing. seeing what my frens did with it was )

the rest of the set does… not really inspire me to decorate.

i placed a rock on my plot and was like #💬│palia-general message

[weak wigeon]

Also... A "switch action" key (one that lets you choose which one you want to do if there are many objects with an interaction available)... I literally can't sit unless i move one of my lamps cause they're on the way and my camera catches BOTH lamps before the couch >:(((

Has anyone had this problem too?

[hard basin]

Many, as for interaction prompt base on where the camera looks at not where the character is facing. Example: trying to use the anvil without talking to Sifuu when she is in frame, or trying to pick up Hydrangea or any flower that looks big but has a small hit box and Snow piles... Have to tilt the camera way off the rectangle just to get the highlights right or correct prompt to show

[brisk spruce]

I do like that set actually! I had just really hoped to be able to keep the plot looking similar to when we moved in but like... move stuff to where I wanted it instead of in the way I have one plot that I've barely changed at all since I started the game, so it has a super "newbie" look to it and I mostly wanted it for that one

also I forgot that set had some smaller rocks in it admittedly, I always remember the bigger ones

[lethal granite]

not me with a first plot that’s still just all my crafters lining the starter fencing… and only decorating two plots since then…

eek, lol.

my frens all did the river look with the blue tinted capital chic counter as a river. i’m like, what’s the point of decorating when yall make such cool stuff 😭

all i do is meme the dastardly cyls and stack butterflies

[brisk spruce]

omg right, my stuff never looks as cool in anything lmao. I don't even decorate in minecraft, I make my bf do all of it because he's more creative at it than I am I just go get the resources instead

[lethal granite]

resource gatherers unite! omg i thought i was the only one 😭

[fresh leaf]

Since no one has answered you, there is a new map still to come with new fish, new bugs, new creatures, new quests, new characters, etc. If you go through the #📢│palia-news channel and check for dev blogs you’ll find some of the concepts they’re working on, still an unfinished game. They’ll be posting road maps to come. But they’re not fully delving into every single idea they have. Many things are still secret until they announce it.

Also #🌟│sixer-tracker is where you see pinned posts from what has been said from the devs specifically in this discord in chats to other players, etc.

[dry swift]

Good morning Palians! Happy Monday!

[dry swift]

Hey you changed your pfp! Nice one!

[fallow saffron]

Thank you! I changed it like 3 times this past weekend because I was playing around with picrews aka avatar makers

[dry swift]

Well it looks very fitting for you. I hope you're happy with it.

[fallow saffron]

I am! …mostly

[river cipher]

do i really need to keep gemstones or are they better off sold

[dry swift]

Depends on if you did the ||Temple of the Earth bundle|| yet.

[lyric night]

keep 1-2 of each, some are used in quests and other things etc.
and they may add them to future quests as well
but more than that (and if u don't want to gift them to villagers bcs they grant the highest friendship points) not rly

[river cipher]

ooh good call, i'll check

[river cipher]

gotcha, i think im finished at least main story for now, i didn't know they had high friendship points, ty

[fresh leaf]

I think even a small shipping bin in Bahari near the stables, even with just one row of slots would be helpful. This way we’re not just constantly throwing stuff in it to avoid going back to plot or to Kilima.

[boreal forge]

felt. i'm a loot goblin, my inventory is always full

[fresh leaf]

I try to keep my inventory down between 5,000 and 6,000 so that I always have something to do, but when going on long hunting runs, I tend to need to unload when I’m in North Bahari or in South Bahari mid day and Hassian is in Kilima

so a little bin would heal my soul

Also, moment of silence for the forgotten realm of Kilima Village.
Copper, clay, spice sprouts and back out. 🏃‍♂️

[dry swift]

I would love for Animal Husbandry/Agriculture to give us a Pack-Ormuu that would transport items to our shipping bin/storage from our inventory on a cooldown.

[fresh leaf]

I mean the riffrocs are already at the stables, so no reason why they can’t be also used to take resources back to Kilima and Auni “pick them up” with the mail and take them to Zeki for us.

I’m fine for a compromise for sure!

[boreal forge]

please make a mechanic where you gently pat the inventory carrier animal and say "she's all loaded up!" /j

[fresh leaf]

I want to see what a peki and riffroc look like tho. Is a peki a cross between a chicken and a woodpecker? They make the rooster noise…. Is a riffroc the cross between a clydsedale horse and an antelope? No one knows

[dry swift]

YES! I love the idea of a "used-beast of burden salesman" slapping the top of the pack mule and going "This baby gets 30 miles to the gallon.... of grain."

[fresh leaf]

Isn’t it Jel that talks about a merchant? Would live for that. A couple rare things they’re selling, they buy whatever we got

[boreal forge]

i think i saw someone share a screenshot in here of Tamala having a store button. it would be nice if we could sell anything to her, since random items would be valuable to an alchemist

[fresh leaf]

I’m sure it’ll be when they introduce brewing. I’ve heard of this mechanic from older players.

[dry swift]

I'd be down with brewing if we could turn corn into whiskey, potatoes into vodka, etc. Also Apiaries and bees letting us make mead with honey.

[fresh leaf]

Yes!!!!! A Grimalkin would be perfect! A secret cartel person too. And side quests. A female Grimalkin who is so sweet and kind and like “I need this please dear” and we go and get it low-key robbing Zeki without realizing

[fresh leaf]

From what I heard, They want to avoid the obvious alcohol names because of a younger generation of players. I could be wrong, but that’s what I have overheard while lurking

[dry swift]

Doesn't that fit the bill of Zeki's ex-apprentice? ||Female Grimalkin who pulled ahead of Zeki by ripping him off and putting him even further into debt.
Lore reasoning for her only showing up in Bahari is that she's afraid of showing her face in Kilima because Zeki would not be very happy to see her.||

[fresh leaf]

You’re hired.
not sure if they’re hiring but I’ll give you a reference on your resume for the application

[dry swift]

I swear you or someone else tells me to work for S6 at least once a week lol.

[fresh leaf]

Obviously ||Tamala|| because I don’t need another reason to dislike her, but would appreciate it

||Zeki’s mom or any of the siblings Zeki talks about in that quest||

Also, I need Naroo to come into the game. A) Ashura deserves it and B) need a new romanceable character who is like Ashura and likely very attractive with his parents DNA

[dry swift]

It's a vicious cycle 😢

[fresh leaf]

It’s gonna be May?

In my delulu I missed that detail 🤣

[dry swift]

tbf Maji seem to be pretty cool with polyamory.

[fresh leaf]

The only character love story I’m rooting for is Auni and Najuma

[dry swift]

I'm all about those Platonic relationships. I want Subira to be my mentor.

[fresh leaf]

Lore wise, I don’t think so

[dry swift]

Inter-racial relationships seem to be fairly common too though. ||Like a Maji of the order dating a Grimalkin as mentioned in that one relationship quest with Subira.||

[fresh leaf]

I want Einar to be my Hekla, after ||seeing that boat scene|| I sobbed lol.

[short mesa]

Can't wait to find out what this guy is, he looks so cute 😍 . I also really want a Bok Choy plushie.

[fresh leaf]

It’s the spa set!

[fresh leaf]

Also green Quagsire 🤭

It might be another teaser as well for one of the creatures from elderwood. We’ve already had one teased in the dev blog

His oneness can be Parker

If s6 only works on one character I need it to be Einar. please. I need to know more about Gil’s day

[dry swift]

I'd like them expanding on Subira more. Like... after level 5 friendship, let her start teaching us magic. Make it so that spells or spell scrolls need to be prepared with rare ingredients like Dragonsbeard moss.

Then because she's reluctant to teach us combat magic, just have her teach us cool utility spells like...
Item transportation spells to transport items to our storage/bin.
Magical traps to hold huntables in place for a few seconds.
Transmutation spells to turn a # of a lesser material like Iron Ore into a more valuable material like Palium or Gold ore.

We could even expand on focus by making it so that using magic consumes a certain amount of focus so that it actually has a use past the bonus experience.

[fiery perch]

Thankee! Same to you

[dry swift]

I could see Caleri being more Subira-aligned and Elouisa being more Tamala-aligned too.
||It could work out that Caleri ends up using her collection of forbidden magical texts to help Subira figure out how Tamala is able to stay young.
And Tamala takes on Elouisa as an apprentice in the occult arts and has her collect rare ingredients and insects for her alchemy.

Then eventually as rewards for doing these quests, Caleri gives you a copy of one of her grimoires that gives you access to more spells + lets you craft a grimoire in your house where you can make spells on your plot.

Elouisa's quest reward would give you something cool like some new potion recipes and an Alchemy station you can build on your plot.||

I think it'd be more Tamala manipulating Elouisa's chaoticness to trick her into gathering ingredients for the sake of "combatting Cryptids"

[fresh leaf]

I can see the transmutation being a feasible option for this game for real

[dry swift]

I just love systems that use lower-level resources we might not need anymore in a more meaningful way.

A way to turn things like copper ores into silver ores would be a great item sink. And item sinks are always good in games with skill progression.

[torn ember]

||Technically the Moonstruck series has a grimoire, but I like the idea of being able to use magic!||

[dry swift]

And as long as Alchemy was mentioned... what about an alchemical ingredient theorycraft?

Fire Powder: Uses the dust from a firebreath dragonfly's wings for the elemental component (x1 firebreath dragonfly), ground glowshroom as a magical component (x1 glowshroom), and chapaa oil as a binding agent (x1 spotted chapaa tail)

A little bit goes a long way!
Fire powder can be used in alchemy to create Combustion Oil: which can be applied to pickaxes to increase yield while mining and give a higher chance at rare ores/starstones for a period of time.

[marsh depot]

If they really added the ability to become a mage and an alchemist in Palia I'd probably play more again. I always go for mage roles in other games.

[dry swift]

I could see as how the Maji are directly connected to the flow, it speaks to them and they feel a gravitational pull towards one discipline or another based on their elemental personality. Which is why it seems to be the norm that a Majiri of a certain elemental alignment will almost always pick a discipline that aligns with their flow element.

It would also explain why it seems heavily frowned upon that certain Majiri like Reth would deviate from their flow path.

Also, I wonder if because the Majiri are innately magical, they're also naturally gifted at magic but most don't because the Order has forbidden them from practicing magic. Which means that need to put less work than humans to use magic, but because humans were less magically-gifted, they also learned to be more creative with their magic which is what lead to the ||whole cataclysm.||

I could see it as being, Majiri are allowed to be connected with the flow because it's their nature, but they can't channel it into spells without being a part of the order because they're trying to avoid another disaster.|| Also, I think Tish is a special case because I think her condition severed her connection to the flow and her flower supplies the flow to keep her alive||. I think Majiri will die if their connection to flow is severed.

Basically, flow is the lifeblood of a Majiri.

Maybe the shadow beings feed on flow and humans overusing flow basically alerted them to a banquet.
Would make sense that the Order would limit magic use then, since waking the shadow beings up again would be very, very bad. So they figure using magic sparingly would be the way to go.

But it also doesn't explain why Grimalkins can use magic freely unless the Order wants the shadow beings to go after Grimalkin 😄

I mean, it sounds like the order does some pretty questionable stuff.

Especially after completing all of ||Subira's friendship/relationship quests.||

So Kilima sounds like an outlier village in that it seems pretty peaceful and free of strife when you hear about stuff like the Bahari Ripper or the Dutchess.

Subira definitely seems too nice to be a member of the order lol

But it also sounds like members of the order are brainwashed. Wasn't it mentioned that they're taken from their homes as children and trained to be agents? That sound very fas....t-y lol.

I could see Subira being a sympathizer to some illicit activities after finally having an assignment in the middle of nowhere and this backwoods village treating her better in a few weeks than the Order has treated her over a lifetime.

It kind of reminds me of the Empire from WH40k, except a little less extreme.

I think it's just a very convenient plot device.

Plus, it helps players with immersion when they feel like there is some greater evil out there pulling the strings for them to fight.

If you think about it, Kenli might be an idiot but he's actually the closest thing you get to a good guy leader in Palia.

I like Kenyatta being a healer though and Nai'o's love interest with him being a rancher because it fits the narrative for Animal Husbandry perfectly.

When Animal Husbandry finally does make its way into the game, I will be extremely disappointed if we can't use our friendship with Nai'O/Kenyatta to our advantage in taking care of our livestock and especially disappointed if they're not tied directly into the lore for it.

I loved the idea of being able to use a large number of guild tokens to permanently unlock the ability to have Guild NPCs show up to your plot and assist with their related tasks. (i.e. Tish building furniture for you, Reth helping with cooking steps, Ashura chopping flow trees and placing the wood in a sawmill/storage)

Unfortunately like Animal Husbandry though that would probably be a massive, once a year update kind of update.

[hollow crescent]

ooh that’d be a cool idea

[small olive]

Palia ping

"This better be good"

update

"... Mkay."

[quick anvil]

lol same. Came to see, its another cashshop update with no gamecontent.

[small olive]

I think it actually has more eyeliner and furniture in this one for free

[quick anvil]

Yay. Im sorry but unless there is an actual map added, say, a land, not just a tiny town that basically does not qualify as a town, and actual mmo-type features, say, guild-aspects, travel, lots of lore, side-quests, exploration, etc, im just not excited anymore. Fans from day 1 are all just burned out by now i guess. 🤷‍♀️

[small olive]

Honestly that's fair. And I wouldn't say we're burned out so much as we've hit the backwall and aren't getting much in return for it

We WANT to play, there just...

Isn't much after a while

[tribal field]

Time to find a new game to play! Things will be great when elderwoods drops

[quick anvil]

Thats the thing, knowing this game, i am expecting nothing when it comes to Elderwoods. Itll probably be tiny and explored in a single day. Im honestly expecting something way way greater, especially with all the cash everyone has been dropping in it and now they have some sort of subscription model going too (finally). Im expecting a harbor zone (which the npc constantly talk about) with great ships, which we can unlock and use to travel to those Main Zones the game's lore seems to take place in. I dont wanna be on the sidelines in some forgotten two-street farmtown, i wanna be in the action. Going to the capital, learning about all the lore, helping with important research about the humans. Maybe even restoring the human race and sites or whatever. But atleast something interesting.

[tribal field]

Well this isn’t a team like final fantasy 14. It’s a small indie game and they are working on a major content update in the months of April or May. The game is still open beta, and doesn’t show signs of leaving that state any time soon. I would suggest finding a new game to play that’s like what you want! And then check in on Palia every so often to see if it’s done anything you’d like to see. If not, not sweat! Thankfully it’s free to play and no one has lost money buying a game they don’t like. 🙂

[warm python]

Someone tell the marketing person that the game is open beta because I'm pretty sure they don't know

[fallow saffron]

[quick anvil]

Well i think many would disagree, it seemed charming at first and many believed in Palia and it seemed like there was alot of ambition, so we invested 100's in the cashshop to support them. I guess you cant ask all those early day players anymore since they all have left, but i used to be in community discord and the opinions there are pretty unanimous. It seems they just want to create more cashshop items and then have recurring events for "content".

[warm python]

[fallow saffron]

[tribal field]

I’m in another server and everyone in there has been playing since the start and are stoked about the update. Especially knowing that a lot of us saw the spoiler content that’s been revealed. (Can’t post any of that in this server). There’s tons to look forward to, the new map will be awesome! But everyone is entitled to feel how they want! We will see how the elderwoods shakes out and people can decide to jump off or keep playing when that happens! I’m choosing to stay positive, mainly because I’ve been playing since the beginning and still love it

[warm python]

[normal saddle]

If you don't mind, can you do me a few spoilers? I can't remember what this update was about lol

[fiery perch]

Tbh, I don't think anyone thinks the S6 team is similar to FF14's or anything. And people realize it's a smaller team. But it has given a lot of disappointment to a lot of players, esp the ones who have been around since closed beta, or even early open beta. I know some even who joined mid-way through or whatever who are, too. It sucks even more when some of those people have put in money into the game :(

They've also said theyre pushing for 1.0 release, which I'm assuming (again, assuming) will be with the Elderwood drop. Main reason I'm assuming is since they mentioned they were pushing for it and theyre also wanting to push onto other consoles.

That aside, it's still nice to see people excited for Elderwood-- and I'm sure people who are disappointed with the game, is curious to how it'll play out as a whole. I'm definitely curious to see what will actually be implemented, functioning, etc. Even if I'm disappointed & frustrated with the game for multiple reasons, it's still at least nice to see you, and others, excited.

[tribal field]

I cannot unless I private message lol, no spoilers in this server

[normal saddle]

Please tell me my drakes get their wings

[normal saddle]

Meant to say Dm. Yes please and thank you

[fiery perch]

they scrubbed beta from their website when they dropped on switch

[raven orbit]

They actually do allow betas!

[dry swift]

Taking naps when you're sick just hits different.

[warm python]

Its a disengenous marketing "strategy" is all

They knowingly refused to accurately hit the early access box when they put it on Steam

[warm python]

I hope you feel better soon!

[quick anvil]

Yeah, and i mean its nice to believe that there is so few content because theyre focussing on a big content update somewhere around march or april, you said? Now, the way we have come to know the team, that "major content update" is just the elderwood update and there is nothing extra coming. So itll be three tiny zones, no guilds, no animal husbandry, no extra features, and the game will release with that, im guessing. And what will be after release? I wouldnt be surprised if the game just died out with the only updates being for cashshop.

[fiery perch]

Eh, there's been some betas on switch before, iirc.
And even if nintendo doesnt allow that, i have thoughts on... well, hiding the fact youre beta and being on there, etc. but. ya know. it is what it is lol

[fiery perch]

you too, huh? 🤝

[dry swift]

Yeah. It's been going around lol. Thankfully I'm WFH so I can just sleep on my breaks

[fiery perch]

yep, it really has been. i was pretty much on bedrest the past few days.

[raven orbit]

I think a lot of people think they don't because they're picky about what games they allow to beta on their shop. If I recall correctly, they usually only let developers that are known to have actually followed through on game releases to beta (like Ubisoft for example)

[dry swift]

Hope you feel well soon!