💬│palia-discussions

[pulsar meteor]

it was a huge boost to the performance for anyone in the zone, actually. make of that what you will :/

[empty oar]

That's not how it works

[vernal ridge]

It doesn't help that they are reluctant to change the store based on player feedback which means they're losing potential money there, then there's the other issues relating to bugs/performance/lack of content that make people nervous to spend. But if they would at least change the store up that would help them (and us) Like splitting up the gear into pieces and selling them as single items

[warm python]

Mmmmmmyup

[pulsar meteor]

if it takes up to six months for their programmers to get up to full speed (as per the networking blog, iirc) then regardless of cash flow, they might not have been getting the bang for their buck one would otherwise expect

[warm python]

From what I've read here, them using Rust can't help much either when it comes to onboarding and getting things done right

(here, and that dev blog for that matter)

[pulsar meteor]

so without trying to dismiss anyone's issues with the income side of things, i think they'd have a much better time by reducing that spend instead of increasing take

but we're just players, who knows if they even have the folks there now to untangle and redo some of those choices in light of lessons learned

[vernal ridge]

It seems like a lot of problems are coming from the upper management based on the consistent reviews on glassdoor since they went into open beta too which won't be helping things

[loud axle]

I believe from reading employee reviews there was a point in time a year or so back as well where a lot of the Engineering department voluntarily left so yeah, the additional onboarding time to get new folks in would definitely explain the delay.

[warm python]

Like as always, armchair deving, but I always got this impression that they bit off WAY more than they could chew. You see this happen elsewhere, devs who leave big companies to start their own companies have big ideas that may have worked where they used to be but don't now.

The full live orchestra, the AAA voice cast, the primetime spots for advertising at the Game Awards, it's not stuff you'd expect from a new company's first game, veterans or not. And while obv I have no idea what their financials look like I get the sense that they blew a bleepton of money on luxuries like those I mentioned, that ought to have been allocated elsewhere

[sudden bay]

It's probably just time to see Palia as what it is and not expect anything from it. I log in as a time waster, when I have nothing better to do. Otherwise I'm playing other games.

You can't even be social in Palia because, oppps, server switch....lost that convo and who were they?

[vernal ridge]

i also really hate the whole you can't whisper someone unless you're friends with them 😩

[sudden bay]

I think that's more a safety thing. A lot of children play the game.

[vernal ridge]

I get it, i do, but i really hate it

[signal kayak]

not taking/listening to feedback from the beta testers (us) is really going to hurt them in the long run. as others have discussed in this channel multiple times, trapping cosmetics behind a paywall will be the death of the game, especially if there is nothing else for the f2p players (those who are scared or unable to put money towards the game) to work towards. if the devs (or management) would just listen to what the f2p players are wanting with free cosmetics or a means to earn palia coins in game it would be so much better for the game in the long run. earning the coins in game would mean that players who have had eyes on a piece of clothing or pet might be willing to open their wallets a bit wider if they can get to the half-way point of the price, while it also keeps the f2p player base active for wanting to get the coins to have the premium store cosmetics. every time they introduced a new pet, make a quest that features the pet (doesn't have to be a massively long one, just something) and the players get the basic color version of it with the other colors as skins for the pet that you pay for. gives the whales something to spend money on and gives f2p players a chance to get something other than decorations or renown as a reward

[vernal ridge]

If they would take into consideration what people are saying for the game in general it would help them a lot, no matter what though they're burning the game down from the inside out, there's really nothing we as the players can do, even supporting them financially or just with our time isn't going to help them at this point. They need change inside starting from the top imo, I'm holding out till elderwoods but my faith is waning.

One of the glassdoor reviews actually mentioned they refuse to listen to player feedback for a more achievement based playstyle so as long as management keeps fricking around they'll eventually find out. Just means we will probably lose a game with massive potential.

[signal kayak]

which is sad, this game does have so much potential

[vernal ridge]

It is sad, I've been here since closed alpha 1, i love this game sm, i want it to succeed and i really hope that elderwoods patch is their turn around patch, i'm just having a hard time believing in them though.

[loud axle]

Yeah, it's actually a pretty common line throughout many of the Glassdoor reviews: management doubles down on failed strategies and refuses to change.

[vernal ridge]

It's so saddening reading the reviews 😩

[scarlet hazel]

i really wonder why the bosses havent fired the management unless the boss is just as bad

[loud axle]

I know there have certainly been some changes due to feedback throughout my time testing the game but I really don't feel like anything I've ever said has gotten through. If anything it always felt like they were actively removing anything skill-based and making things more generic / easier.

Like I think it's pretty common knowledge at this point that that there was a net for bug catching since it's in the original trailer for the game and everything, it definitely was a bit clunky to use but it was strange to me to just throw it away to basically copy Hunting :S

[vernal ridge]

Yeah, I actually preferred the net and told them such in the survey they gave us asking about it.

I hated that it's just hunting 2.0

[loud axle]

Them buffing the catch rates was what finally made me quit the game. I spent weeks compiling data but then it all got thrown out the window because too many people were upset they couldn't catch rare bugs in a single throw with a Makeshift Belt :/

Probably why the RNG plushies make me so mad, people complained about RNG but seem to love THIS RNG lol

[vernal ridge]

i've seen a lot of complaints about the plushy rng but i didn't feel like there was an issue with it :x

[signal kayak]

it makes sense that you can't catch strong bugs with weak gear. heck, if i made the game with the net i would have made the makeshift net completely break if you tried to catch a rare or epic bug

[vernal ridge]

it gave me a reason to actually go hunting

[lilac tartan]

Has the game improved after maintenance?

[vernal ridge]

It seems like it has yeah

[lilac tartan]

OMG OMG

[vernal ridge]

stability wise that is

[signal kayak]

well, that's good. i've been playing minecraft because of the instability of the game

[lilac tartan]

IS MUSIC BACK????

[vernal ridge]

no idea o: there was an issue with the music??

[lilac tartan]

Idk if it was both switch or pc but some people had no music playing including me

[vernal ridge]

oooh i see, i haven't heard any complaints about it recently so idk!

[hollow crescent]

afaik this was just stability so prob no music still

[fathom crescent]

Music worked both on switch and pc for me so I can’t say anything. :(

[rocky beacon]

I can't believe the game is still down for maintenance 😫

[vernal ridge]

Its not, cancel the message and log in

[rocky beacon]

Thank you!

[lilac tartan]

Faith do you play on pc?

[vernal ridge]

I do

[lilac tartan]

Ooh okay so that makes sense, I think the music thing is a switch issue

[vernal ridge]

oh okay yeah that makes sense!

[lilac tartan]

I’m really debating playing on pc, but computer play gives me eye strain in general

[hollow crescent]

i put my game in window mode so i don’t have to look over the big screen, and put my pc on like “sunset mode” or something so when it’s night time it has a tint of sorts to it

[rocky beacon]

Use any blue light filtering, night mode, privacy screen, etc to help with eye strain?

[vernal ridge]

I would really recommend it tbh, pc is so much better for palia, but you can absolutely mess with the settings in game to help with the eye strain from what i've seen from others

[rocky beacon]

Oh, and adjust screen brightness?

[hollow crescent]

you could even limit it how long you wanna play, maybe something is easier for you to do on pc vs switch (for me it’s hunting i love it on pc) but i hate fishing on it so i do that on my switch

[loud axle]

I feel like I've never had the music playing whenever I did play. It's so sporadic that it's like... why bother.

[rocky beacon]

Setting timers for breaks too even. I agree that Palia on PC is better than switch. Switch is a nice change of pace sometimes.

[hollow crescent]

i like it :) but i only hear it on pc as switch i’m usually around family so don’t wanna have too much music going on

[lilac tartan]

Thanks for the advice :D

[jagged tangle]

why waste people's time by submitting an empty plot for the home tours?

[granite crag]

I ask the same thing everytime I do home tours.

I refuse to vote on them. Id rather see a default starter plot than nothing at all.

[jagged tangle]

i guess they could have been exploring the home tour thing and didn't know who to get out of it and hit submit by mistake

[granite crag]

Maybe, they could add a preview picture of your plot so you can double check which one your uploading with a "are you sure" button.

[jagged tangle]

that would be handy - i have several plots going and nearly put the wrong one in

[granite crag]

Granted theres a lot of things that need tweaking or fixed, i think the whole voting system needs changed. If someone gets 30 heart votes and 20 wizards they should be able to still get a tier 2 name plate.

It should be TOTAL votes not one specific category.

[vernal ridge]

votes should be retained, 1 week for 500 votes is insane

[granite crag]

I dont want to beg people to vote a specific way because I want a certain nameplate. If I get 200 or 500 total votes let me pick which tier nameplate I want.

Also I think that item limit/plot value should play into how your plot gets seen on tours.

[vernal ridge]

that would be interesting

[signal kayak]

the reaction nameplates should just be achievement rewards, where you give the reaction not receive it

[granite crag]

Like we have filters already (featured, trending etc) if we had a plot value filter or item limit filter you could pick if you wanted to see more empty plots or full (i like to vote on just added plots so they get a vote)

But it would stop me from seeing 10 different blank plots

[jagged tangle]

i'm not a fan of pay to be at the front of the queue so i am looking through the newly added homes

[signal kayak]

plot preview would be nice but also maybe a tag or something, like kitchen or garden that you can mark to mean that you are super proud of how that area looks, to help those that are looking for inspo for that room

[granite crag]

Speaking of tags going along with that - each of the books are named something different (guide, novel etc) they need a generic book tag so i dont gotta scroll or search the specific book name to find it.

[signal kayak]

it's like, what? 150 house tour tickets for 10 hours of exposure? and you're still not guaranteed to get the reactions that you want, i went into those featured homes and they were nowhere near the tiered emoji numbers

[granite crag]

I featured my home once, and only got like an extra 50 reacts. I dont feel its worth it.

[jagged tangle]

i'd like to see the option to add a brief description for your plot - eg. welcome to the tavern, enjoy the gardens

[signal kayak]

and just to put that into perspective, to get 150 tickets without the coffee cup achievement will take you three weeks to get

[knotty zinc]

Yeah it’s all rigged, that whole aspect of the game was only intended for streamers to draw more people into the game

[jagged tangle]

i just don't have the time to visit that many homes to ever get enough tickets

[granite crag]

If they used say like the create a community layout for the plots, So Plot Name, Plot tags/theme (instead of motto) Plot description with a preview image would be amazing.

[knotty zinc]

That’s too convenient

[granite crag]

How is conviency a problem ?

[knotty zinc]

For us it isn’t. But S6 doesn’t want convenience. They want you to beg for votes by showing pics everywhere possible, which also draws people into the game, including potential new players. It’s a strategy, we are literally their marketing department

[jagged tangle]

i had nearly reached the decor cap for the home i submitted and it is nowhere near as cluttered as some homes i've visited

[granite crag]

Yeah thats valid. Wish they'd just reuse some of their current ideas that would work with other things, Reusing rather than implementing something new.

[granite crag]

It's crazy the difference some peoples 3000 item limit looks compared to yours.

[knotty zinc]

I demand stair rugs 😭

[granite crag]

the harvest house stairs are ugly so im for this.

[knotty zinc]

Right? Color orientation is a huge part of it and I’m not very good at it

At least not with the options we are given

[granite crag]

Going along with color, ive said it a few times but allowing us to use the hair color wheel for the furniture recolors. So you have a primary and secondary color. They already have the pallet made they would have to spend time using that on each decor item (which is a lot) but if they can do it for hair they can do it for the furniture.

[knotty zinc]

We need more dye options, and better flower options. I’ve never seen a red rose bush that small

[granite crag]

Im so tired of seeing NPC's with recolors that we ourselves can't have

[knotty zinc]

Exactly. And paintings we can’t have that would add color to our walls

[granite crag]

We need way more warm colored flowers (red, orange, yellow) we have at least 4 different blue flowers alone.

[knotty zinc]

Yep. The hydrangeas are pretty, but the cool colors get dull

[granite crag]

My color wheel of flowers- so much blue compared to every other color. -some arent in the wheel cause they are like the mushrooms and odd ones i dont consider full "flowers"

[knotty zinc]

And let us pick seeds from the plants in the wild. I’ve never heard of someone catching bugs to look for seeds with a magnifying glass

[granite crag]

Granted I do got a disproportionate amount of blue flowers for decorating it still is 4/5 blue flowers compared to the others

[granite crag]

This and the fact that each furniture set should have the same basic items (in my opinion) (kitchen counter, cabinet, bathtub, toilet, sink, bed etc) and half of them are missing tons of them.

Jel with his ravenwood bookshelf I cant have 😭

[knotty zinc]

Yep. But they decided to make basic amenities illegal. Flushing a toilet is not that kind of flow!

[granite crag]

Illegal rugs of all things lol

If they would take some of their current things and reimplemented them elsewhere it would be less work on their part reusing things they already have while also giving us more creative freedom.

The day they give us more colors for furniture I will cry.

[stuck oar]

So they're just sensoring messages now eh? 🙄

I didn't even get a warning. It's just gonzo. Not exactly cozy 💔

In my tiny opinion

[granite crag]

Einar bot at it again I suppose

[stuck oar]

Mmm I would have gotten a notice if it was Einar

I only realized my message was gone because I was scrolling through other people's posts & then noticed the time range where I posted was empty.

I happen to screenshot the message to send to a couple of friends so I was able to double check that I wasn't just mistaken 🙃

[granite crag]

Weird

[stuck oar]

Yups - well c'est la vie

Suppose I have other things I should be doing anyways.

[cosmic plover]

Is Palia on a maintenance now?

[granite crag]

#💬│palia-general message

[shy oar]

I reached my decor limit & realized most of it was taken up by flowers 😂🤦‍♀️

[granite crag]

On my 2 plots I have close to limit I have about 800 flowers lol

[shy oar]

Last I checked it was 917 😂😂 had to get rid of a few 😭

[formal girder]

What the heck happened to my fishing boop noises.... on the struggle bus right now trying to fish tho 💁

[shy oar]

On that note sunflowers would be so cute though 😍

[shy oar]

Ive noticed that when I was fishing on the bubble spots! Normal when fishing for non star quality fish but a lot more difficult to fish without it for sure

[formal girder]

apparently I listen and not look when fishing .... i have recently learned lolk

: me fishing : 😅

[loud axle]

Just another victim of the last maintenance. No idea how it got borked but it did :x

[ivory swan]

game still down for maintance?

[dusty urchin]

Just checked.yes still down:(

[granite crag]

#💬│palia-general message

[granite crag]

Games not down- you can get in just click any button they forgot to take the message away

[dusty urchin]

Oh, uh....ok.tysvm.

[warm phoenix]

Hi, guys ! I just want to pop in to talk about the last update. I haven't play in a while because I have nothing left to do in the game. I like my house, I have max friendship with everyone and I finished the story. So I came back for the conclusion of the prologue and I was so excited ! I had fun playing but I barely play an hour ! That was so short !! So, yeah, good game but disappointed about the story length. That's all I wanted to say, Have a good day everyone ! o/

[neat shadow]

Yeah, the "conclusion" is definitely not what I perceived to get from the trailer they showed. ||I really wanted more dungeon puzzles since we went back to the temples, but everything was so easily laid out for us to follow.|| I love this game so much, I just wish it were in better hands.

[runic eagle]

Here's what Vega had to say on the topic #💬│palia-discussions message #💬│palia-discussions message

[fiery perch]

[Backreading/delayed response]

You were right that I would enjoy that response.

And I definitely agree. Definitely seems like we have similar/same ideas when it comes to that kind of stuff, lol. & you definitely explained it very well.

[lyric night]

guess they applied feedback a bit too much and made everything insanely obvious and easy this time

I would love if the main story stuff would be a more complex, challenging but still offer options for those who struggle (or simply can't do certain parts)

hopefully we will get more than jump n run, invisible bridges, sliding puzzles in the future

at least the brazier puzzle is nice, I think I like that one the most ( || the one we had in the main part of the fire temple not the prologue stuff haha||)

they could implement soo many types of puzzles
even repeatable puzzles so they don't implement them for only one story part

[fiery perch]

Yeah, I think this is something that would definitely be better. The complex/challenging type puzzles, I think are fine on it's own. Just having an option to make it easier-- whether it's alternative paths and also an option to skip [Which they have that, where you can skip if you mess up enough times]-- would be a better way to do it.

Options are always better than either too hard or too easy.

[fiery sphinx]

I hate how they keep watering down the little bit of challenge in the game. For example, no, I did not love having to make a starred muujin bahari for Your Order Is Served. But then they just go and decide... eh, unstarred petit fives is enough. If that had been the case when I did those quests, I'd have zipped through them and run out of content even faster.

[neat shadow]

Listen. I really enjoyed the water temple in Legend of Zelda. I demand my puzzles to be actual brain teasers.

With what ValkOrii said, I completely agree. Options are much better then having it one way or the other.

[vagrant star]

I agree, even the stuff that's supposed to be puzzles is rather obvious... And I 100% agree about having options! Just make it clear from the start that there's an easy and a hard way, so people don't choose the wrong one and get bored/frustrated.

[fiery perch]

Yeah, that's one thing I've also heard from the recent questline/questchain. There's no clear indiciation, at all, that you can even prompt to skip if you mess up enough times... I know some people didn't know that was a thing until Vega said something in the discord

[vagrant star]

Yes! And it doesn't have to be much, could even be a character saying "You try here, I'll see if I can find another way in the meantime, see you in a while".

[muted trellis]

Why is the maintenance still going 😭

[forest herald]

It finished hours ago

[lyric night]

its not, but they forgot to remove the banner

[muted trellis]

Ohh

Im still getting the lag tho

[forest herald]

Running super smooth for me all day

[magic wolf]

um.. somethings wrong with mine, game freezes when i click play on character screen

[empty viper]

Looking for people who want to view plots and trade plot votes...
Id loved to show off my work and see yours too.

[marsh depot]

You'll have better luck in #🏡│home-reactions

[empty viper]

Thank you

[civic obsidian]

haha, you never notice how many quests are tied behind Tamalas' couldron working until it doesn't work. :'D

[hardy owl]

sooo frustrated with that woman and her noncooking cauldron

[empty oar]

Tamala's cauldron is a thing?

[peak lava]

Boa tarde,
Sou nova no jogo e gostaria de me conectar com Brs, existe algum discord de Palia BR??
Para além de uma experiencia agradavel no jogo, gostaria de fazer novas amizades.

[fiery perch]

Hi! This discord is english only, unfortunately, but you might have better luck finding a community for that over in #1267631845013721158 !

using google translate here: Oi! Esta discórdia é apenas em inglês, infelizmente, mas você pode ter mais sorte em encontrar uma comunidade para isso em #1267631845013721158 !

[marsh depot]

https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1275104041528987741 Vc pode encontrar aqui!

[trail kindle]

Preach. The audacity to mention that to us. After what we’ve been through

[foggy vault]

I played for an hour this morning and then it wouldnt let me mine a node, so I logged off. came back on couldnt move, logged off. Restarted my computer, now I live in a purple cloud

[trail kindle]

It’s…pretty

[foggy vault]

it still has the sparkle and magic feeling and I can rotate my screen, but NO CLUE where Im walking 😆

[turbid nebula]

My login screen says down for maintenance 🤨

[trail kindle]

Did I miss something? Theres nothing mentioned in news, status etc

[fathom crescent]

It’s not down. You can log in.

[foggy vault]

it said it on mine too, but I still was able to login and play before I became a purple cloud

[turbid nebula]

they did mention maintenance in the palia-news channel yesterday but no updates yet 🤷‍♀️

[fiery perch]

they just forgot to get rid of the banner or something from yesterday. It's not in maintenance.

[trail kindle]

I suppose if I had hit any key like the on screen prompt suggest.... I wouldnt have aasked like a dork. I is dumb

[fiery perch]

You're not. It's expected for a game to be in maintnenace when it says it is in it. This is 100% on them. You're not dumb or anything else!

[trail kindle]

This situation has just occured right after I put a coffee pod in and came back to coffee all over the counter. A cup. A cup is required to catch the coffee..... I am malfunctioning

[fathom crescent]

I could see myself doing that. 😅🥲

[trail kindle]

or my persoanl fav, coming back to a hot cup of water bc I forgot the pod

or a hot cup of oxygen bc I did not hit start

[foggy vault]

I grind my beans, and I forgot to open the clear lid to pour them into the grinder one morning, so beans everywhere! we need coffee in order to function to make it sometimes 😆

[fathom crescent]

Add some cocoa powder and you have hot chocolate. 😅

[fathom crescent]

100% done that before. 🫠

[trail kindle]

I like my coffee so resemble my sense of humor and heart. It is not sweet. But very dark

[pine inlet]

And yes, I did entirely forget to water my plants after until the next day.

[trail kindle]

I dont remember giving u permission to publically discuss my days actions. 😐 lmao that is me. Me is you

[pine inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/step-brothers-gif-4047994

[trail kindle]

who ever this chick is.....just wow. I remind myself of Anger from the movie inside out. XD

[warm python]

delayed repsonse but oh god I have done this with my keurig before multiple times

I have a fav mug I'm in love with now so I dont forget it now at least but man

[pine inlet]

I love how we are all dysfunctional in some fashion. What a united community 🥰♥️🌈

[trail kindle]

I joke. It’s how I cope. I posted a story in a group and um…. 700+ ppl were shocked and appalled. I knew it was “bad”, but when they were petitioning me to sell the story for tv 😅 I think I realized it’s not typical dysfunction 😂😂😂

[loud axle]

I made my coffee yesterday in the morning and came back to it at like 5 pm going "oh that's why I have a headache I forgot to drink it" 😄

[fiery sphinx]

Me... looking at the cold cup of coffee I made 5 hours ago...

[pine inlet]

A bunch of beans died for that coffee. the absolute disrespect

[fiery sphinx]

I'm not too good to microwave it and drink it anyway. You know... just to honor their sacrifice and all. Absolutely not because I have a caffeine problem or anything.

[trail kindle]

Look at Mr. Bee doing home tours. Such a sweetie

[loud axle]

da hell was that

AI bots making stickers out of things people post? :S

[trail kindle]

me. I click wrong stuff. But look at this Maji derp'ing out of the tress

[trail kindle]

Done this too

[fathom crescent]

Is there any way to get apples besides requesting and using farming guild coins…?

~I don’t have enough apples to make seeds. That’s why I’m asking. 🫠

[fiery perch]

You can get an Apple Seed by ||leveling up your friendship with Nai'o and Zeki through friendship quests|| if you haven't already.

And other than that, just gotta wait for them to grow to get more apple seeds, etc tbh. The apple trees thankfully last for a few harvests. 😅

[fathom crescent]

Welp. Thanks. I guess I gotta do a lot more farming to get guild coins then. Friendship levels are at max for everyone except Subira, Tamala, and Einar.

[unreal pilot]

Tbh I would just worry about buying 1 seed(if you have none), and then use the apples you get from that harvest to make your other seeds. Good luck 💕

[fiery perch]

You should be fine being able to grow a tree on your own for the seeds, without needing to buy more.

[marsh depot]

I started with my one tree after finishing that quest, and you can also request them after you get it if you want more.

[loud axle]

Ugh I've just had the Wicked soundtrack on repeat it's so good. 😭

So did the maintenance yesterday fix things or are people still having connection issues?

[fallow saffron]

It fixed connection issues for me.. for now

[fiery perch]

I think some people are still having issues? :s
But im not sure if that's bc things are fixed, or bc less ppl are on since they forgot to get rid of the maintenance banner on the home screen... which has stopped (some) people from logging in lol

im hoping it actually fixed stuff tho

[loud axle]

Yeah that's why I've been getting mixed reports

[deep chasm]

had some issues for a few minutes this morning but i've surprisingly been fine since

[umbral lynx]

Based off the poorly worded post I've been assuming the restart fixed something just not everything cas gotta stay on brand

[loud axle]

@fiery perch more feedback from me back in the olden days regarding the game's start / tutorial (someone on steam asked why the tutorial is kind of... non-existent)

"To go into a bit more detail: I would like to see the tutorial made a little longer and more focused for new players. Upon emerging from the ruins behind the waterfall, players would spawn into an "instanced" version of Kilima: this ensures that it can be a set time of day, NPCs will be at set locations, and the materials the player needs to complete their quests and understand their role in the world are readily available without competition from other players. Ashura then tasks the player with collecting the materials to build their tent, and sends them on a linear path to talk to NPCs that give their introductions, simple quests / tasks, and reward the player with materials they'll need to build their tent. This still lets players feel like they contributed to its construction, as they're gathering items, hunting animals, collecting bugs, etc. for NPCs and getting these "rarer" items in return. Upon finishing the gauntlet of introductions, players return to Ashura who offers to let them stay at the inn awhile before they set off for their new home. Fade to black, title card for the game, spawn them into the actual server at whatever time it currently is. :)"

[warm python]

Seeing it later whoooo. Seen it twice on Broadway and absolutely love the musical, prolly have a few songs memorized lmao

[fiery perch]

This sounds really nice

[grave wharf]

Agreed, that’s a really great idea..

[pliant elk]

The film is a really great adaptation of Act I! I was expecting it to make some garbage choices, cuz that happens y'no, but they really didn't! Any changes from the stage play were additive, giving more background to the universe or characters. It's truly very good.

[warm python]

Yay!

[pearl wave]

its totally made sense that flickering issues were our computer's problem /s

[loud axle]

Another maintenance!

I hear the color got washed out again with this one?

[marsh depot]

Did they ever fix that? I haven't really been on much to tell the difference.

[loud axle]

That's just what I read so I'm not sure

[warm python]

Welp whoever's playing, share the deets on what got fixed/what broke/what is the same

[trail kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/canddy-gif-27354515

[warm python]

[fiery perch]

Unfortunately, that probably won't be fixed until their next actual hotfix or patch. :\

..And I mean, even then, it's hopefully it'll be fixed by then >.<

[trail kindle]

Im doing it rn. They brought this on themselves. No regerts.

[quartz orbit]

its still not fixed...still can't complete the tish quest

[river trench]

Any reason they archived the communities page? It's, like, the exact thing I'm looking for rn and I can't even use it. I need help from experienced home builders bc I'm trying to put an object against the wall, but the collision stops me at, like, a foot away from the wall, the gap is ugly as sin, and I can't figure out how to make the clipping technique fit it in.

A call with people who know how to execute what I'm trying would be ideal, but (reasonably so) there's no calling in this server so I can't, and google is zero help at all.

[marsh depot]

There's a new communities page #1267631845013721158

If you are looking for help, there's also often lots of experienced builders in the #🏡│decor channel (some of which have their own youtube channels as well) and might be able to direct you.

[trail kindle]

Mmhm

[river trench]

Thank you!

[pearl wave]

still got flickering issue but s6 claimed its just our computers (when its still not working for me)

[warm python]

welp

[brisk spruce]

I have the flickering issue too

[scarlet hazel]

my screen flickers when switching zones. i know i isnt my laptop cause i never had that issue until after these patches

[knotty zinc]

Make them dig for gold!

[raven scroll]

any word on how early next year for the big update with elderwood? like early jan? or late jan into feb? anyone hear anything lately?

[lyric night]

nope, but would not expect it too early, more like march/april, they will announce it when its about to happen, u will probably not miss it

[fallow saffron]

Ahhh, when I go to the underground (via zekis shop) a white light flashes across the screen D:
hurts my eyes

I’m not sure if this is a known issue or not

[granite robin]

My mouse wont stay on screen lol

[umbral lynx]

issue yes, known by s6 probs not

[vernal ridge]

sorry that's just me, i'm really really fast

[fallow saffron]

[trail kindle]

I keep getting warning from a palia Einar bot.....wtf am I saying thats a problem?

[fiery perch]

!modmail

You can contact the mods via modmail to ask.

[opal cypress]

How to Use ModMail

Hey there!
This looks like something you can reach out to the mods for help! You can contact them via ModMail, a bot that will set up a private conversation with the team.

To use ModMail, DM @daring cosmos (that can also be found at the top of our member list).

It will walk you through the process to reach out to the mod team. If you are in multiple servers utilizing ModMail, please make sure to select Palia.

Thanks!

[trail kindle]

😐 nah. the game is irritating enough. I guess I dont really wanna know what a mod thinks either

[pliant elk]

I'll wager they have an auto-mod for "threats." A bot can't tell when someone is being silly.

[grim stone]

anyone else unable to use the bloom lantern on shelves ?

[marsh depot]

The Maji Market one? It seems some items still have the incorrect tags sadly

[grim stone]

Yes that one! & incorrect tags?

[marsh depot]

I was hoping it would've been fixed by now, but I guess not 🙃
Some items got their tags for placing mixed up, so items such as that one are now only ground bound.

[grim stone]

oh wow! okay, tysm for letting me know. I thought it was just a me thing. I miss using it :(

[marsh depot]

Same here, I had actually grinded so hard on Maji Market to get multiple of those, I guess there could be a way to place them with obstacle flicking but I'm not sure

[grim stone]

SAME, they're super cute! c: & yeah, i'll just wait it out. It's prob ofc not on top of the list but it's the little things :( ty again for your response!

[marsh depot]

No problem! I hope it gets fixed too if that's the case

[knotty zinc]

Lol what the heck did I miss

[odd lagoon]

Chopping board still broken.

[summer roost]

pleek palia its been 10 min 😭

[trail kindle]

I guess I was muted for an hour. Just now looked at message. Guess I took my punishment well 😂

[jagged tangle]

I hope they change the lighting in game soon - everything is so ugly and washed out now

[loud axle]

I wonder why that keeps happening every couple of maintenances

[brisk spruce]

if anyone was curious, I didnt get one during summer or anytime last year but I took a screenshot at approx the same in-game time in spring vs now

[loud axle]

I will say, that's pretty cool that they did that. Hopefully winter is really neat too.

[brisk spruce]

I'm gonna get another in the same spot when it changes, I'm curious to see it lol

[loud axle]

Props to the artists who put in the time to make some fall magic!

(WAIT ROAN COMPLIMENTING SOMETHING WHAT IS THIS!?)

[warm python]

But Roan I thought all you did was sit here and complain!!! /j

[loud axle]

das me

[charred prawn]

So how's the game tonight?

[empty oar]

Had a minor stroke. Thought I booted up Stalker 2. Was like "Wow, this is a weird looking building I'm in."

[jaunty matrix]

What’s up with the platform with the fishing sign on it inside the Temple of Flames? My line actually lands in the lava but idk…is there something to it?

[empty oar]

Quest

[jaunty matrix]

What quest?

[empty oar]

The investigator lady

Subira

[scarlet hazel]

its apart of a new quest that ends the prologue. you can only fish an item out of it from that quest im sure

[pine inlet]

Wow I learned something new today!

Have only been playing Palia for a month, when I first got the bloom lantern I thought it was MEANT to be that way!

[marsh depot]

Glad it was of help!

Sadly I think the sakura vases were also bugged iirc. I thought since they fixed the mounted wall decorations they would've fixed those too I'm specially sad because those two are probably my favorite decor pieces.

[knotty zinc]

The skateboard is also broken lol

[fast sonnet]

What the shiat, Zeki just accused me of stealing from him and I have done nothing of the sort 😂

[glass zenith]

I got told off by the farmers wife for not giving her a good enough present (it was Sheps Pie)

[soft tusk]

is it just me or is the color of everything ingame kinda dark? It wasn't like this before lol.

[sweet hornet]

anyone having cooking issues in game? Trying to make stuffed cabbage rolls but green onions wont show to chop

[floral harness]

Yes and don't even let do any other task just chop :/

[signal kayak]

!cookingbug

[opal cypress]

With the patch of 0.186, certain recipes using the chopping board with the following ingredients are in a broken state. Avoid cooking these until they're fixed.

Affected Ingredients:

• Napa Cabbage
• Bok Choy
• Wild Ginger
• Wild Green Onion

Affected Recipes:

• Kimchi Fried Rice
• Lucky Braised Fish
• Mushroom Dumpling Soup
• Pan Fried Dumplings
• Rice Cake Soup
• Rice Cake Stirfry
• Spicy Crab Fried Rice
• Steamed Fish
• Stuffed Cabbage Rolls

[jagged tangle]

it's not you - they messed it up after one of the recent updates - everything is overexposed and bland

[hexed cloak]

It boils down to personal taste but I like the new lighting

[loud axle]

Happy Thanksgiving to all my discussions pals!

Appreciate y'all 🧡

[vagrant star]

Happy thanksgiving to you too! I hope you'll have a nice celebration.

[fiery perch]

💛 Happy Thanksgiving! I appreciate you! Youre lovely!

[marsh depot]

Happy Thanksgiving to the US folks!

[hardy owl]

And thank goodness I'm not the one cooking today!

[fast sonnet]

Who has two thumbs and found out she had to make an entire Thanksgiving spread last minute? This fool 😭

[young plank]

I’m making a ham last min! You’re not alone!

[trail kindle]

My son and I decided to stay home, game and have a crab boil

[signal kayak]

who had thanksgiving dinner for breakfast? this chick because she pulled a 24 hour (and still awake) and cooked her turkey at 4:30am est

[hollow crescent]

nice! i’ve done that before with fam was on xmas tho lol

[hushed narwhal]

@marsh depot Happy Thanksgiving

[loud axle]

I had an early morning so I had my lunch early... So my dinner was at 11 am lol

Tonight will probably just be some Mac and cheese because why not

[fiery perch]

I'm currently double checking recipe stuff, then going to be getting food started here soon.

We at least got the ham already cooked yesterday in prep for today

[fiery perch]

Any specific kind of maccie cheese?

[loud axle]

I'm bougie and I do the Kraft Deluxe

[fiery perch]

Hahaha, heck yeah

[loud axle]

White cheddar with garlic and herbs is my favorite~

[fiery perch]

Ooo that sounds nice

We're having Smoked Gouda Maccie cheese tonight!

[hollow crescent]

be extra bougie and throw in some shredded (your fav cheese)

[hollow crescent]

that sounds so good

[fiery perch]

It's def one of my favs

[warm python]

Mmmm want.... I don't celebrate thanksgiving anymore cause only one family member and neither of us can really cook but I get super jelly of everyone with their delicious food

[fiery perch]

It's just me and my brother, tbh. Just make some really simple food that's comfort. Candied yams is always good and very easy-- no real 'cooking' involved

We just try to get stuff that's usually a lot easier to make, doesnt' require a lot of meal prep, etc

[marsh depot]

I'm just making sesame chicken because I don't celebrate it (since I don't live in the US) but since I've been cooking more often my mom's put me on charge of Christmas dinner 🤣

[warm python]

I'll probably do my usual of heating something up from the trader joes frozen section lmkjhasd maybe orange mandarin chicken...

[marsh depot]

Ngl I would eat takeout everyday if I could

[warm python]

Trader joes has become my bff since it opened by me, great frozen section

[sullen pumice]

Can I have more than one romance in Palia? I don't have any love in real life, I thought about having two so I could feel hot and desired in the comfort of my home drinking lemonade and eating onions gratin with cornmeal.

[pearl wave]

u can romance all romancables

[sullen pumice]

O.o

That's a lot of gifts, I realized that I give more gifts than I receive.

I think it's very realistic.

[pearl wave]

||tamala & subira|| jel, hassian, jina, reth, einar, kenyatta, nai'o, tish are the romancables that u can do I believe

yeahh, its indeed lots of gifts

[sullen pumice]

U know wh the best mentor is? I'm almost level 4 with some.

[pearl wave]

thinks its ur preference, really :o

[knotty zinc]

Is there any negative dialogue if you date more than one at a time? Lol

[sullen pumice]

Ouw! O.k. Ilike Zeki, he seems to have a lot of (il)legal things....

[pearl wave]

ehh, just ||Tamala might give snarky comment about hassian and reth / tish will feel weird about u wearing their pins.|| I think its just pins as far as i know

@sullen pumice there u go! :D

[sullen pumice]

So.. see ya! Thanks for your time! I really appreciate

[fallow saffron]

That sentence went in a totally different direction than I expected

[pearl wave]

am i the only one who thinks that "wrapping up prologue" should have included in "to be continued"? I'm so confused with all of this and it's does feel like the game is..dead in the sense of content, nothing to do, and just grindy until 9999+ levels..

I'm so frustated with the fact that s6 not really fixing bugs, hotfixes are maybe a thing every end of month when in my opinion, should have been fixed asap.

They only released even more expensive premium stuffs every monthly (if we are lucky to see s6's active) but what's the point of palia?

How long will palia be in "early access" or beta for? I know that devs (some) probably are working behind in the scenes but, communication is so bad in my opinion.

It is kinda sad that discord is more active than the game (at least to me), there are some of us who are twiddling our fingers waiting for s6 to do something but, where are they and why they not doing something?

I'm so burnt out on palia regarding on hotpot, maji, housing plot that is way too much in regarding reactions, and I'm not really playing palia as much as I should have.

Yeah, i can get on and plays with my friends but, I'm finding myself with no motivation whatsoever and that's bad :/

I just am so confused with what are they doing with our money thats goes toward palia development as well

[jolly idol]

My understanding is that 1.0 aka official release comes out early next year with Elderwood. We don’t know how much content comes with that or if they’re including other area with it ||but we’re definitely getting new gameplay with the staff at least. || And lots of lore/story probably with that too.

Fixing bugs and more lore now would be nice but its not realistic with their team sizes continuously changing

[pearl wave]

That's the frustating part i guess..

[jolly idol]

I’ve seen this game change and grow considerably from closed beta. The best way to think of it as it is being built still. It wasn’t a finished game they just needed to test, people playing it helps them build it though

[pearl wave]

The vibe im getting from s6 is like irl workplace where boss / co workers don't care about us. There are some games who actually cares about us and actually gives us some roadmap and communication and actually listens (some do but not enough) and that's gross to me

[pearl wave]

there are one man game who actually communcated, gives roadmaps, cares about the players and that's tell me that s6 have a different views about us than indie games do.

so I think the small team is no excuse whatsoever to me

[jolly idol]

Yeah, they might not work that way with plans months on advance. I think if they did they’d communicate it

[fiery perch]

I've been here since closed beta, and yes, things have changed overtime. However, there has still been bugs that have existed since then-- and from my understanding, some even during the alpha?

And, the feeling that a lot of people have been getting at this point, is that 'beta' is just used as an excuse so it can be riddled with tons of bugs.

I still don't think it should of left closed beta, nor do I think it should of gotten on siwtch when it did. It's close to unplayable at times for some ppl on the switch, which is a shame.

There are quests that can not be completed rn. The cooking bug is also really bad-- that some people can't make some recipes bc of it it's a shame.

Communication has rarely ever been S6's strong suit imo. Esp after the CMs left & got laid off.

[jolly idol]

Like they communicated Elderwood because its what they’re sure of

[fiery perch]

I feel like they communicated that to get people to play the game more again, tbh. Which is kind of a smart thing imo.

Although now, again, people are with barely any content, which is a shame. I know they put a lot of work (from what vega has mentioned) into the recent quest line, which is nice, but it does hurt my heart to hear that it only took some ppl 1-2 hours to complete. :( After months of waiting.

[jolly idol]

Yeah they need a much bigger bug team but they might just not have the money for one 🤷🏽‍♀️

[pearl wave]

yeah so, the small team, early access, beta, are just excuse and I kinda want to walk up to s6's face and goes, "what the heck are u doing?" because seriously..

[fiery perch]

They have also had a rather large budget to start with. I don't remember the exact number right now (where's @loud axle at when you need him, he usually has this info ) ... but bc of that, it baffles me sometimes.

And I will at least state, yes, some bugs are definitel yhard to find and sometimes you wont know until it goes live. But there has been some where it... does make me go ????

[fiery sphinx]

Wasn't it like $45 million or something crazy?

[jolly idol]

That was years ago and a pre pandemic budget

[fiery perch]

it was like $45 mil or $50 mil, yes

[fiery perch]

I understand that, but this game has been riddled with bugs even before now.

[knotty zinc]

And they still have a rather large budget, especially with the cash store

[fiery perch]

The one thing that definitely confuses me on how it got missed in specific, is how somehow, some recipes straight up got deleted out of the prep station to chop to finish recipes lol

[fiery perch]

idk about how big that is, since it might not be as much of a profit as we think or realize but

[pearl wave]

they have so much money and they just now started planning to have elderwood started when its been a thing years ago. And i understand that coding is hectic but, just yikes at how the game still have bugs when its been released when some told them not to

[knotty zinc]

I’ve seen lots of people sporting the new outfits

[jolly idol]

I really dont think they would have fired so many people and did the company thing if they had money.

[pearl wave]

they do have money, that's the problem

[fiery perch]

I don't doubt this! I just moreso, we honestly dont know where they are putting their money behind the scenes, in comparison to how many might be sold. Hopefully that makes a bit more sense lol

Esp since it seems like they out-source a lot of concept art

[Which can i mention, love those concept artists. a lot of their work is lovely to see i love looking at that stuff]

[knotty zinc]

They do have it, they just didn’t want to pay as many people

[jolly idol]

Maybe I’m too trusting 🤷🏽‍♀️ I just like what they’ve made and want to trust theres reasons its so wonky thats not just neglect.

[fiery perch]

And that's fair. But a lot of people who have had critique or frustrations-- which is valid to have-- has seen a lot of bugs, gotten frustrated with dealing with it, or whatever, and it just... it does bubble up over time.

I still hope for the game to get better and improve I want the game to turn into something that I still think it could be.

[knotty zinc]

I’ve been a developer before, just not for S6. What I see is an understaffed and overworked dev team, and their bosses are allocating their budget elsewhere, like outsourcing the cash store and padding their own pockets instead of hiring more developers

[jolly idol]

For sure, I mean its impossible to log in without at least 5 bugs everytime, and sometimes the log in is the bug

[signal kayak]

just wish that the higher up management would stop double downing on things that need to/should be changed

[knotty zinc]

It’s clear that daybreak only bought S6 so they can bleed it dry, then they’ll dispose of it if the player base diminishes. Enad is notorious for this

[jolly idol]

That seems likeliest to me. Unfortunate and maybe we should have expected from these types of people running things

[knotty zinc]

Daybreak used to be good, but ever since Enad bought them out it’s been horrible

For context, daybreak does EverQuest

[sudden bay]

I think the "I understand that the team is small because they fired people" excuse really is no longer a viable excuse. Also the game being in EA is no longer an excuse. They break as much stuff when the do release patches as they fix stuff. There is absolutely nothing to do in the game except for collect plushies and trade them. Decorate, maybe but they limit that with the decor limit.

[jolly idol]

And Lotr or whatever. I never played either. More a Guild Wars and Stardew/Sims gurly

[knotty zinc]

I wasn’t bringing it up as an excuse, more of a ‘they put their own foot in the grave’ scenario

[knotty zinc]

EverQuest is amazing

[sudden bay]

I get it. I wasn't specifically referring to your comment. I've heard it over and over and over.

[jolly idol]

Still? 👀

[pearl wave]

It's feel like they just kept digging the hole and kept digging the hole and not patching up stuffs and refuse to admit that they messed up.

[knotty zinc]

Yeah. They HAVE to hire more developers or the game is doomed and it won’t be around much longer. But more than that, their management sucks

[knotty zinc]

Yes. They’re still releasing expansions for EQ and EQ2

and EQ3 is in the works

[sudden bay]

Right now Palia is a game you play on update days maybe and then log out till something elese comes up you can spend your time on for 1/2 day.

[knotty zinc]

Yup. I’m getting extremely bored with it

[signal kayak]

and that is not good for a live service game

[jolly idol]

I was logging in daily for 2-3 months because I was building a plot. But with tour boards how they are only like 50 people naturally saw it (with the ticket boost)
I started a Christmas plot but I am less motivated knowing it’ll be hard to get visits

[fiery perch]

Like I've said before, I load the game so I can test some stuff on update/patch days-- esp to see if any accessibility things may of gotten added [but not mentioned in patch notes]
To help ppl who may have questions (like trying to find specific settings or something), or to test something for someone if needed
I also login in case of FOMO login rewards or twitch drops.

[knotty zinc]

I don’t think you can even call it live service. Part of the live service model is to charge for the new content

[pearl wave]

I mean, s6 probably will said, "but we leave a message saying its important to take breaks because, story are short, etc"! But, the problem is that players who take their time and eventually finished it are bored as well.

It's sad that palia have been out since then, story wasn't progressing, grinding slowly racked up to 9999+ to "keep the players motivated" but its will not work in long term.

You're telling me that they are just now working on elderwood just because, there were some newcomers who just started noticing that palia exist when they didn't do anything years ago????

[jolly idol]

I’ll play it all winter probably I’m finding it very hard to find a replacement game because I kinda don’t want action or a lot of story to follow, just a chill atmosphere

[knotty zinc]

After skill level 50, there’s no point in going further. If they really wanted us to believe that, they’d have continued the rewards for hitting certain levels

[signal kayak]

this is the same company that said they didn't want to add new levels for friendships because they wanted more people to get to level 4

[pearl wave]

ok cool, thats fine for you but, there are some of us who sick of bugs, early access still a thing, beta still a thing.

[knotty zinc]

Then they added level 5 on half the npcs

[pearl wave]

yeah that leaves the bad taste in my mouth because that just ????

[pearl wave]

yeah, we don't have time for that

[signal kayak]

i believe that those that got level 5 are the "popular" npcs

[fiery perch]

[Not pinging Roan here]

But I wanted to reply to this, so ppl can see/click it easier. But this was some of Roan's ideas for possible skill trees for Palia's skills. Which I think would of been super nice, and also give fresh life into the skills.

I think it's a bit late now, sadly... but. :( i still hope maybe, maybe. they'll strip the skills for what they are now, maybe do some form of compensation of course, and do something similar to these.

[knotty zinc]

I just want more quests. It’s not that hard. Quests are so easy. And you don’t even have to add voiced lines for very much of them in Palia

[jolly idol]

Skill trees would be amazing

[knotty zinc]

Skill trees to spend skill points on to advance a skill, like reward bonuses or tool durability. Stuff like that

[signal kayak]

and to think, we could have had quests for all of the pets to give them some love and lore in the game, instead of, you know, they're there

[jolly idol]

Although I would like real new skills

Like farming branches in 2

[pearl wave]

im wondering if s6 just sitting around and goes, "oh palia is done.", if that the case, early access / beta shouldn't be a thing and just "full release" from there.

Even if s6 is actually working behind in the scenes and quietly developing the game, that just a bad look on them because we are left with silent treatment with no real updates.

[knotty zinc]

Instead they locked pets behind a pay wall. Locking an entire game mechanic behind a pay wall is scummy

[signal kayak]

especially one that was highly demanded by the masses from the get go

[knotty zinc]

Exactly. It’s on them for poor communication and community outreach

[fiery perch]

yes, this is what Roan essentially was thinking & tried to give the s6 devs ideas for, back in alpha (from my understanding).

@loud axle has had A LOT of great and good ideas, that i wish was actually implemented in the game.

[signal kayak]

like i've and others have said, pet quests to get a free pet, just the basic of basic colors, then put the other colors in the premium store as pet skins, people would still have bought them

[knotty zinc]

Now they’re locking emotes behind the pay wall. It won’t be long before they do this for everything.

But I would be happy to pay a subscription fee of $10/mo for mega servers instead of this Rust and AWS crap

[fiery perch]

Like this!

[pearl wave]

im going to be honest, once elderwood came out and s6 goes, "oh hi guys, long time no see huh?" with open arms and expect us to forget what they did, they can forget about it.

I'm just disappointed that they haven't been really communicating.

[knotty zinc]

I think you mean forgive what they didn’t do 🤭

[fiery perch]

Roan's abbreviated bullet points, of ideas they have had and mentioned before in the past.

Their ideas/concepts would fit very well in Palia.

[pearl wave]

bleh, im bad with english ok XD

[knotty zinc]

Yeah I like Roans ideas

[knotty zinc]

So am I, I’m better at Japanese lmao

[feral horizon]

That is my biggest hang up. If you are going to keep this in the beta stage and expect us to give you feedback but not take our feedback and not communicate wth is going on, peace out.

[fiery perch]

Me too. Roan and I have very similar ideas too, and it's just easier at this point to reply/show what they have mentioned than .. retyping things

[warm python]

Every time they add a new type of item to the cash shop I get sad because thanks to their creed, it means that whole category of item will never be something that can be earned

[knotty zinc]

Games with a perpetual beta eventually become considered as abandonware because it’s not moving forward

[warm python]

So like, now we can say goodbye to any sort of free emote. Same how it was for pets, tool skins, plot skins

[feral horizon]

Yup, I also really love how nowhere says it's a beta until AFTER you have downloaded it.

[knotty zinc]

I only bought coins once

[fiery perch]

I still wish 'trading' was more of in a neutral area (i mean everywhere is nuetral but still). Like a clearing. Can have some sort of flea-market area.

People can put things up on the stall-- which they could build themselves, and could even do some basic decorating.

Limited number of items each time something is on there-- can sell for gold or trading (like the plushes). The set price could be a bit higher than the sell price at Zekis (to compensate for time).

Would promote social-aspect, creativity with the decorating, could give NPCs more life by them walking by to say random one-liners ... and also, help accessibility side of things, since ppl could theoretically buy specific cooked meals, fish, bugs, etc.

[knotty zinc]

Yep. It’s advertised as a full release

[fiery perch]

it doesnt tell you it's in beta at all on switch.

[feral horizon]

It's complete BS. They wanna say we are beta testers but then treat us like we are just money makers? Eff that.

[warm python]

Boy you should have seen how rough (for lack of better words) this server got when they first took off all the mentions of beta aside from the PC launcher from everywhere, and knowingly refused to label it early access on steam

It was....yeah LOL you still see defenders of it these days but man

[knotty zinc]

They should’ve done it to where you can trade with players directly instead of going to stalls. Adding stalls and over complicating such a simple feature only clunks up the code

[chrome quartz]

Let's face it, you can only do your garden and hunt for plushies for so long before one day you just stop logging in.

[feral horizon]

Yeah I hadn't joined the discord at that point. I was playing when it was released as a beta on Epic and just recently noticed they removed beta everywhere.

[fiery perch]

With the way they have it implemented, I agree.

If it was more in the sense of a flea market, i think it could of been okay. ... but then again, with how their code breaks a lot, i can see how that could mess up.

[feral horizon]

I have barely played since the last update. I didn't even log in for a few days because I heard about all the issues before I have a chance to log in.

[fiery perch]

they essentially scrubbed 'beta' off everything when they released it on the switch

[warm python]

Yeahh they never mentioned beta on the Epic storefront I believe? then when they announced it for the Switch they wiped the word beta off of everything but the pc launcher

[knotty zinc]

Right. Even in FF14, you have direct trading as well as auction house. And the auction house is just a simple billboard in strategic locations

[pearl wave]

When i first started playing palia, I was like "oh yay, i can support you by doing all of this quests, npcs, bundles, etc! I can play with friends!"

Few months in, I started hearing regulars og crying for help at what s6 is actually doing and i goes, "oh that's not true.. please don't do this s6.. im just going to give u benefit of doubt.. surely u can fix it.. right?"

And now, I'm like "ok dude, you need to stop and actually communicate / start showing that u do care about us. I'm done with ur excuses."

[feral horizon]

Ooohhhh yeah I started playing right before they released it on switch

[warm python]

so you have to be playing the PC version and have to already have downloaded the game to even know it's a beta, or otherwise have heard from third party sources (other people/other websites)

[feral horizon]

I am playing the PC version.

[knotty zinc]

Yep. It got removed from the description entirely

[fiery perch]

I remember when me and some others, were like "Just.. just give it a few months. I dont want to disappoint you, but ... you'll understand."

It's always really nice to start with, then after a few months, you kinda realize how empty it feels at times. I still like the world they have developed and made, but a lot of the times, i realize the 'void' i filled, was when i was just hanging with 1 friend and following him when he fished lol.

And the cake parties way back when

[knotty zinc]

This begs the question, are they going to charge for the game on the unlikely chance 1.0 actually gets released?

[warm python]

I was when they removed the mentions but it was when they refused to label it early access on steam even though they acknowledged us bringing it up beforehand, then afterwards went "oh tee hee sorry we can't change it now it's too late!", that was one of the big things that made me just go nah I'm done

[fiery perch]

honestly, i dont think this would be the case, unless it was a DLC. and even then, i would hope not?

Roan 💛

[pearl wave]

exaclty, its sad and I hope they do not manipulative us, guilt trips us once we just kinda disappears from this game i guess

[loud axle]

Hi yes sorry I got home from work and crashed lol. Appreciate you gassing me up Ori!

[feral horizon]

Knowinf daybreak it'll be a subscription of some kind

[loud axle]

I am not meant for early mornings!

[fiery perch]

Hahaha, of course I love your ideas/thoughts when it comes to Palia.

[warm python]

I think they're at a point where it's too late in the game for them to switch to an upfront paid model, they'd lose too many players. I suspect some kind of battle pass eventually but probably not anything past it

[fiery perch]

I get you and understand. Just want to mention that your thoughts, feelings & critique is valid, too.

[loud axle]

So the budget for Palia came in waves from what I understand. They got like 10 or 20 million when the studio was first founded, and then another 30-40 for a total of 50 million once this Discord went live in early 2021.

[golden knot]

Was anything done specific for Thanksgiving?

[loud axle]

With Daybreak's acquisition, they pledged another 10 million so it's up to 60 million now.

[hollow crescent]

no

[pearl wave]

your feelings / critique is valid as well! I appreciate u 💜

[fiery perch]

ty Roan, knew you had that info a bit more than I do.

[golden knot]

I didn't think so, thanks:)

[sudden bay]

That is a ridiculous amount of money to have this game be like it is.

[chrome quartz]

Seriously, who is going to pay for an ongoing bug infested game that crashes every few minutes?

[knotty zinc]

It’s just ridiculous. Most of their budget is unaccounted for. I’d love to see their EBITDA

[pearl wave]

there are few of us who still gives them money and idk why they doing that but, that's not our business but like "why" 😭

[loud axle]

Yeah to only have two zones with that much money up front is wild to me.

Like consider that Elden Ring had a budget of about 200 million. BotW was reported at around 120 million.

I'd expect at least a tenth of those games :x

[sudden bay]

Pathea spent about 20 mill on my time at Sandrock and while, yes it is a game that end, the quality is just there. Plus they do have multiplayer aspect as well.

[pearl wave]

they better come up with a really good explaination about why they are the way they are (s6) otherwise, that just :/

[fiery perch]

I'm still just saddened that they laid off the CMs & there's just no CM anymore tbh.

[sudden bay]

Plus when you think about it, after level 10 there is no reason except for vanity to even have to level up further.

[knotty zinc]

I think Sony is buying the Elden ring studio too

[snow grove]

Horrible mismanagement, go look at their Glassdoor reviews, that tells you everything you need to know.

[pearl wave]

im sad that they did that and how they treat them as well :(

[knotty zinc]

Enad is a travesty that shouldn’t have ever happened

[pearl wave]

I do not need to be looking for answers, they can tell us themselves but thanks for a tip

[fiery perch]

Yeah. I wish the skills were more branched off and in-depth, similar to what Roan has had ideas for. And earnable cosmetics through that

[feral horizon]

I was just saying this to my husband the other day. They need to expalnd the skills after level 10

[loud axle]

I told them they should have been capped at 10. You could keep earning the medals and such but the EXP should have stopped at 99% to level 11... So people have things to work towards during Elderwoods and can more naturally progress. :x

[sudden bay]

I mean we get the guild coins but there is hardly anything in there to buy. I have triplicates of Tish's stuff because there is also a cap (why a cap I have no idea)

[pearl wave]

yeah the lvl 9999 don't make sense to me :/

[fiery perch]

like, i admittedly bought the builder's outfit, back when open beta started & i had the cash. Because i wanted to rep my fav skill (at the time). I really just wanted to show i liked decorating & making furniture.

I feel like, since it is a premium outfit, it doesn't really... show that or represent that? It doesnt have that same feeling that ppl would feel, or potentially even see, by it being a possible earnable one instead.

[knotty zinc]

Yeah, elderwoods is just going to be a couple days of stuff to do and then boredom

[snow grove]

If it works

[fiery perch]

Capped at 10 or 15. A sort of "Skill point" half-way through to branch off. And expand upon when elderwoods drops.

[sudden bay]

Also the cooking is broken. At least mine is. I can hardly chop an onion now without failing 10 times and trust me it's not that hard. Something is off about it.

[polar elbow]

One game I know has a system where, upon reaching level cap, you can continue to gain exp, but each "level up" keeps you at the same level and hands you an item instead. They could have easily done that and then awarded guild coins for leveling "past cap"

[knotty zinc]

Day 1: crashing and disconnects and npcs not showing up to advance the quests. And S6 will just say “restart the game multiple times, maybe that’ll work?”

[pearl wave]

i actually like tarina's idea

roan's as well <3

[snow grove]

This will be only after the release is pushed back because of bugs XD

[knotty zinc]

That’s implying they actually test it first, which they won’t

[sudden bay]

There have been tons of suggestions to make the game better since Aug 23 and S6 hasn't implemented any of them.

[knotty zinc]

And never will

[snow grove]

And people wonder why some of the community just trashes them.

[knotty zinc]

The suggestion box is just for people to create their own false hopes

[sudden bay]

The funniest one is the one where they tell you there is a item cap but don't show you what it is and you had to use a free third pary app to figure it out.

[knotty zinc]

I doubt those messages even get read

[loud axle]

I think at some point they basically decided that their goal for Palia is to get people to play it as little as possible.

Like, it's not meant to be your main game. It's supposed to be the "side piece" of video games where you take a break from whatever you're actually playing to log in for a half hour.

[snow grove]

That's a great way to make money and not go bankrupt....oh wait

[sudden bay]

The second someone fawned over the huge frogbert they knew what the roadmap would be.

[snow grove]

Frogs, plushies, RNG BABY!

[loud axle]

Yep... Their target audience truly seems to be "people that don't play video games" which I've always thought is an odd group of people to target for your... video game

[sudden bay]

I just am calling it Plushia now

[snow grove]

If only they listened to people who put 200-1000 hours in the game, but where can we find those people

[pearl wave]

I do have a question regarding daybreak, do they have the reputation of silent treatment like s6 doing? But now i think about it, s6 didn't had any collabs I think so their reputation is already messed up anyway

[fiery perch]

when ppl say this is the most communicative devs they've seen for a game or something, i always kinda look to the side.

or ppl think this is how MMOs usually are.

[fiery perch]

their reputation is moreso, they'll take games, bleed them dry and fill them with microtransations. they usually end up dying.

[snow grove]

They basically microtransaction all their games and from there the squeeze happens

[pearl wave]

lmao, look like daybreak is already doing that, good job 😭

[sudden bay]

It was like that before Daybreak

[pearl wave]

I know but like it so worse

[snow grove]

Which if anyone notices the biggest sections of their updates....🌠 premium🌠

[feral horizon]

I feel like this game is being made for kids. The plushies, the super over the top outfits, super simple content, they can convince their parents to spend money becasue they are invested in the vibe and not the content.

[sudden bay]

Paid cosmetics and plushies. Run around and not get plushies because your RNG is set to high

[loud axle]

The sad part is they really were back during early testing. Like I haven't had many experiences actively participating in conversations with devs that wasn't private mod channels or what not.

The CMs were great as well, even when they had to "steer around" conversations they knew they couldn't have such as... "where's the roadmap?" lol

[pearl wave]

ah so like fortnite? 😭

[snow grove]

No, fortnite makes money

[knotty zinc]

But they silenced our prayers to RNGeezus

[fiery perch]

It is rated 10+, so it fits. esp with them continuously adding in visual effects and flashy ones.

I dont agree with the rating personally, but i digress.

[knotty zinc]

A ton of it

[pearl wave]

I do not want to talk about how long I have to find a final pearl for einar smh

[snow grove]

And the game is actually playable

[loud axle]

Tamala alone should warrant a PG13 rating lol

[fiery perch]

I remember you talking about that! And the one specific CM that we know, she was super communicative and did her best. Even though we all knew sometimes, the info was wrong, but she did try to correct it, or mention she'll ask and let us know. Miss her. Hope she's doing well

[pearl wave]

tamala is too spicy for 10+ rated game ngl

[fiery perch]

Tamala alone is... .. I won't get into that

[feral horizon]

This game was MEANT for millenials like fr. If they focussed on their millenial and Gen Z playerbase, they would have to be pumping out GOOD content and that's just too hard apparently. But if they did they would get some super loyal fans.

[sudden bay]

What is this new made up game "spam pot" Did that just start?

[fiery perch]

hotpot, but you just press space repeatedly for the game to finish as soon as possible.

[snow grove]

Been around for awhile. Just easy ways to get coins and finish quick

[knotty zinc]

Not to mention the double entendres all throughout the game’s dialogue

[loud axle]

So... much like most of the things S6 implements, they're kind of scared of competition and having "winners" and "losers" so spam pot is basically everyone just mashing space bar to finish the game as quickly as possible without actually playing the game because everyone gets the same rewards anyway.

[snow grove]

They don't need to even target a specific demographic, if you make a quality game, the people will play.....and playing people pay money

[knotty zinc]

ESRB: 10+

S6: but you need to be 13+ to play online

Game: online only

[feral horizon]

True

[sudden bay]

People are so nasty about it if they call a table and you don't play that way.

[pearl wave]

not to mention, their "solution" to spambotters are to add more tables, nothing else

[marsh depot]

I usually don't mind these in games but some of them (specially in Tamala's case) feel so out of place considering the rest of the game.

[knotty zinc]

Yup

[scarlet hazel]

S6 doesn't even know what era their making the world

It's all just a messed up cluster that will take some time to be salvaged

[loud axle]

Yeah I'm not a huge fan of it as it's basically bypassing gameplay and it's unfortunate for people that DO want to socialize and play. Like I'm a huge board game / card game fan so it'd be right up my alley but I definitely play to win. :S

I think they could have at least incentivized trying to win by giving the winner a couple extra coins and everyone else the same participation prize but meh.

[snow grove]

Good thing this game will never come out of beta, they can tune it all they want

[sudden bay]

Yeah it's a waste of my time and boring to just spam press a spacebar

[fiery perch]

I just think, as well, having a way for ppl to have at least 1 table to put on their own plot would be nice.

[marsh depot]

I'm not a fan of the fact players have resorted to it due to how bad the RNG Wheel is

[knotty zinc]

Clearly it’s before the dinosaurs. The dinosaurs came and ate the majiri, grimalkin, and everything else. Then somehow the evolutionary chain decided to do humans again, as if it worked the first time

[scarlet hazel]

Yeah. This game is struggling even rn to retain players. It's going to die next year

[loud axle]

That is definitely another culprit for sure.

[fiery perch]

Like, if you could, i would 100% make a new plot so I could just... make a gaming corner/area. dedicated for that. The arcade machines and the hotpot table in the middle.

[feral horizon]

I feel like it has already. The last couple of games I feel like the servers are so empty

Even in Bahari which is wild

[knotty zinc]

Twist: the grimalkins ship is what killed the dinosaurs

[pearl wave]

gimme arcade (I almost said arcane..)'s machine back >:c :p

[loud axle]

The Steam population for the game is down over 35% now since July. :S

[fiery perch]

I would be so willing to even have my game open for a lot so ppl could randomly come over to play hotpot and stuff

[scarlet hazel]

I'm still in populated servers but I'm not surprised if it's dying down for the holidays n stuff. But also the game being very broken rn

[knotty zinc]

They are back

[snow grove]

The slow decline will happen

[pearl wave]

I don't believe u, prove it :o!!! /j

[fiery perch]

you can find them in the underground again. even tho the patch notes called it an arcade cabinet

[sudden bay]

Why would they do that? Then you might find players you can actually form a friendship with instead of just randomly talking to people.

[knotty zinc]

They’ve lost more players than the gains put together

[snow grove]

Last year they were always above 10k, I only pulled like 6 months

[scarlet hazel]

And the money too. It's a shock how the company isn't bankrupt yet or even the top people

[snow grove]

They got bought out, they already went bankrupt

[marsh depot]

Honestly same, I used to enjoy attending and hosting parties so much, being able to host actual games at ones plot would be so fun. Kind of how like house parties in OSRS.

[sudden bay]

Also, and I didn't know this before, but they look to see how many of the player base has completed the quests before adding in new content. So you have all these accounts that never advance holding back the ones that do play.

[loud axle]

Their revenue for last year barely broke even with their investments which... also doesn't bode too well.

[scarlet hazel]

I bet daybreak is gonna cut their losses soon. I doubt even they want to hold onto a game like palia

[marsh depot]

Which is why I'm beginning to believe Daybreak only acquired the game to sit on the IP.

[knotty zinc]

Because they aren’t using the money to actually develop the game. They’re using it to stuff in their pockets. AWS basic servers are free.

[snow grove]

We will get more outfits, price will slowly creep up, whales will still buy...repeat

[scarlet hazel]

Imagine daybreak bringing the game back when it dies and actually making a good game with f2p earnable clothes

[pearl wave]

what is with the word, whale come from? i don't understand that context in this :/

[knotty zinc]

Fat rich people

[snow grove]

People who spend ALOT of money in video games

[pearl wave]

ah okay hm

[scarlet hazel]

Whales = people who spend ridiculous amounts of money on games, some making themselves into debt for it I assume

[sudden bay]

If they are buying in Palia then for sure

Since ONE cosmetic item costs more than most games out there.

[scarlet hazel]

I saw someone who said they were gonna buy the entire store and even did calculations for how much it would cost...

[snow grove]

A backdrop costs $25 XD

[sudden bay]

Not quite

$10 plus tax

[pearl wave]

I honestly thinks they should either 1) lower the price on premium stuffs or 2) get rid of it and change the system to something we can earn FREELY from.

[marsh depot]

Which is why when I first heard of the acquisition I was confused they weren't pouring more resources into the game. With Daybreak being a bigger company, they could've provided the resources S6 didn't have on it's own.

[snow grove]

For the backdrops? One of them was def $25 when first released

[marsh depot]

I don't even dare to do that. I'd be surprised if it surpasses the total cost of every DLC in the Sims 4.

[sudden bay]

OH well the last one was cheaper. Sadly I bought 4 of them before I came to my senses.

[snow grove]

Shipwreck and Galewind costs 2550 coins

[sudden bay]

I'm sorry I bought shipwreck

[knotty zinc]

But that means less money in their paychecks. Have you seen their starting salary? It’s more than what Intel pays their fresh hires

[loud axle]

Daybreak's total revenue last year was actually less than Palia's. 45m I believe I read.

They acquired S6 for 5m + a "contingency bonus" based on how well it does over the next year.

[scarlet hazel]

Loool

[pearl wave]

well then.. they better come up with the good plan about premium because, it is way too expensive and unnecessarily too high.

[scarlet hazel]

Daybreak about to lose money from that investment then

[knotty zinc]

They start at $125k a year lmfao

Like I said. The budget is going into their pockets

[pearl wave]

to me, its feel like they goes, "oh man! players are paying, let be greedy and increase it! mwhaha" when we are broke as heck.

Yeah we have the option not to buy but i feel bad for people buying it still.

[snow grove]

They pay to play a buggy mess, that's on them

[pearl wave]

eventually we will run out of $ and we just nolifing palia just to please s6's pockets

[loud axle]

I think that's one reason why so many of us are so vocal about the state of the game, especially to new players. I don't want people like me coming in and going "oh this looks cool I bet it gets so much better" after a couple hours of gameplay, dropping $60, and then realizing another 10 hours in that... oh wait, it's exactly the same as those first couple of hours.

[knotty zinc]

I wanna go back to FF14 but I need someone to play with lol

[wild furnace]

Palia keeps kicking us out

[feral horizon]

My husband and I have decided to play Ori for the fifth time instead of continuing to play Palia

[snow grove]

But think about the new plushies

[pearl wave]

exaclty! i feel so bad because, i can easily use my $60 for real stuffs than cometics. If they lower it and not too expensive, i will maybe consider it. Until then, we are better off spending our $ toward something else that's are worthwhile.

[loud axle]

Such a good choice though! My second favorite Metroidvania after Hollow Knight.

[fiery perch]

everytime someone says "Ori" [as in the game] it always makes me do a second-take. 🤣

(But also, the ori games are great and fantastic.)

[fiery perch]

YES hollow knight omg i love so much

[pearl wave]

I have ori! i should really play that and finish it xD

[snow grove]

What sucks is the majority of the playerbase do not share the same feelings.

[feral horizon]

I haven't played Hollow Knight yet. Hubs has and really likes it but I just keep going back to Ori. I'm obsessed. Both games are absolute masterpieces.

[fiery perch]

i've even made a hollow knight OC that i really need to try to draw again, since i've improved my art. i love that world sooo much 💕

[marsh depot]

They really should reduce the price of the cosmetics, it's specially rough for those of us outside the US with the exchange rates

[pearl wave]

I understand! /gen <3

[fiery perch]

the fact that they dont convert properly or whatever (not sure how to word this properly), to the other currencies, is honestly so upsetting.

[loud axle]

Ori and the Blind Forest was great but Will of the Wisps was utterly fantastic. I love when a company / developer knows what they did right and what they can do better on and builds on that to make an even better second game.

[knotty zinc]

Yeah. My best friend was killed in a rollover so I got nobody to play it with anymore

[snow grove]

They do convert it, it's just more expensive to anyone outside the US

[mossy mica]

Don’t mind me. I’m just lurkin’ and being nosy. I’m not doing shiznit on this boring holiday.

[fiery perch]

The Will of the Wisps was definitely a good example, of somebody using the same formula but improving on it, and even adding new features. but without taking away the vibe & feeling of the series as a whole. I love it.

[marsh depot]

I've been hoping for regional pricing for so long, I thought once they launched on Steam perhaps they would start working on implementing it but nope. I've lost all hope they ever will 💔

[feral horizon]

This! I say all the time that I love both games because they are the same universe but so different. I was worried the second would be basically the same game all over again. S6 should take notes

[pearl wave]

I swear if s6 goes, "oh u guys are wanting us to do something about the game? why its not in my feedback forms?" but problem is, we did and we are tired of them not taking our feedbacks (when feedbacks are actually useful in some aspect) for those who didn't do it, i do appreciate some who did tho

[marsh depot]

Yep, the only time I've actually purchased something was when the exchange rate to dollars in my country was at an all time low. Otherwise it would've been really painful lol.

[mossy mica]

I read that as “oh u gays,” and the same is still true. 🤣

[snow grove]

Yepper, it sucks but that's the way the business makes money

[pearl wave]

lmao keli XD

[mossy mica]

I can genuinely say I’ve given up on using the feedback forms. DON’T HATE ME, OKAY?!

[loud axle]

It's a lot of work for things that we can't even guarantee are being read at this point without a CM to organize them.

[knotty zinc]

Those feedback forms are just to waste our time lmao

[pearl wave]

we want cm back please

[mossy mica]

If I get bored enough, I’ll submit something in iambic pentameter.

[snow grove]

They can't afford a CM

[feral horizon]

What is CM?

[snow grove]

Community Manager

[pearl wave]

Community Manager

[feral horizon]

Ooohhh ok. What did they do? Chat with people here on discord?

[snow grove]

Middleman between the community and the devs

[knotty zinc]

Of all the positions they’re hiring for, brand manager is one of them which says “keep the community engaged with strategically timed communication”, which isn’t exactly community engagement. More like a periodic message that we can’t reply to

[pearl wave]

yes, take in feedbacks, suggest to s6, and.. uhh the og probably knows better than i do

[pearl wave]

yeah..

[fiery perch]

This is going to sound like me being a smartbutt, but-- Managing the community, heheh

But yeah, they essentially try to convey the feedback ppl may say in discord or anywhere else, and pass it on to the devs. As Swaggy said, being the middleman between the community & the devs. They may even create content for the community as well.

Essentially being like the "Voice" for the brand/company etc online, and even trying to like, make a positive online presence

[marsh depot]

I understand that all too well, sadly. But it's also just the fact we have no way to earn cosmetics in game, or even the paid currency.

Animal Crossing Pocket Camp was a game with a lot of items that needed paid currency but at least we had a way to earn said currency in game.

League of Legends has their in game earned currency (BE) and their paid currency (RP) but you can still get the skins and most other cosmetics by simply grinding the game.

Then there's OSRS which allows you to buy the premium membership with gold earned in game.

So, there's definitely ways they could both earn money without bleeding the players dry. It's just sad because they're only turning into another EA at this point.

[knotty zinc]

The player base won’t see a slow decline. Judging by the numbers shared, it’s going to be fast

[loud axle]

The CMs had a lot of different duties spread out between them:

• Heading the mod team
• Being active on Discord to answer questions / engage the community
• Running events
• Heading the wiki team
• Helping out streamers / partners
• Compiling feedback
• Typing up patch notes

Probably more I can't think of right now as well.

[mossy mica]

😂

[snow grove]

Classic, i'm shocked a Mod hasnt yelled at us yet

[marsh depot]

You're very much appreciated Keli! Love the attitude.

[mossy mica]

Let’s see how long that stays.

[snow grove]

That's what Daybreak does, I doubt we will ever see anything free to earn.

[pearl wave]

CM is definitely not a easy job and I can understand why it's isn't for some people but, I appreciate those who were CM and passion about it!

[knotty zinc]

I got yelled at in the switch group for criticizing S6. I got told to stop b****ng and help them fix the game. Like… that’s not the customers responsibility, you think I’m gonna do that for free? Lmfao

[loud axle]

I will say the mods have been pretty great here about actually encouraging the critical conversations. Sometimes we do have people that want to shut it down but the mods will chime in that no, we can have the space to say our piece.

[snow grove]

Depends on how spicy we get, I would enjoy another timeout

[mossy mica]

I try. I try. -bows-

[knotty zinc]

You have to have thick skin and be good with people. I’d actually be perfect for it because I was retail management before I went to work for Intel 😂

[pearl wave]

nice lol

[mossy mica]

Honestly, I’m very tame/mild compared to others, but shall that day come, I can get spicy.

[fiery perch]

I genuinely would love to be a CM. It's one of the dream jobs that i think about a lot and always go back to. but alas, no degree, no experience, so that can sit in the background

[loud axle]

Yeah the toxic positivity gets a bit out of control sometimes. I try to remind people that without criticism, things can't be expected to get better - which is how we got to this point in the first place, because early testing groups were very much mostly very vocal superfans who weren't giving (in my eyes) very targeted or useful feedback.

[knotty zinc]

What’s funny is their work experience required. Which is more than the company has been around for LOL

[knotty zinc]

Makes me want to say “gag me with a spoon”

[snow grove]

They should get a QA dept....oh wait

[knotty zinc]

Beta is the most important time to criticize too

[mossy mica]

People annoy me too much for me to ever be a CM. 😅

[knotty zinc]

That’s posted too lmao

[marsh depot]

Not according to some players lol

[snow grove]

Not filled? Who would have thunk it XD

How much do they pay 👀

[knotty zinc]

Starting is $125k, so it’s gotta be really bad work environment for that to not be tempting

[fiery perch]

I mean, in a sense same, but i feel like I'm pretty good at putting that to the side & still being neutral

Altho, i guess that depends. when ppl start being ableist or something, i kinda struggle to continue to be nice 😅

[snow grove]

If I can WFH, I could check out for a few months and BS my way through...because I wouldn't be leaving my current job.

[marsh depot]

Honestly, same. Yet I worked in sales and customer service for almost 2 years

[knotty zinc]

All positions can be WFH according to the requirements

[snow grove]

Do I dust off the ol resume

[knotty zinc]

Don’t forget to only be dressed from the waist up

[mossy mica]

@fiery perch @marsh depot I’m just a burnt out Millennial with a short fuse. 😅

[loud axle]

Gather round for another anecdote from grandpa Roan, everyone...

At one point during testing we had some small group discussions targeted at various quest lines / NPCs, almost like a college class where you'd write a post with your thoughts and then we were encouraged to respond to others.

A lot of my groups' responses were basically "I love this NPC the questline is amazing no notes" which like... It's great if you love something, but for it to be targeted and useful feedback you need to hone in one what you love and why you love it.

So of course I did my natural "Roan hot take" where I remember just absolutely hating Tamala's entire quest line and I had a bunch to say about it. It was very repetitive (Basically a fetch quest where you had to go talk to the same NPCs not once, not twice, but three times over the course of her friendship levels) which just wasn't doing it for me. Plus the toxicity of how she plays "hard to get" was just not cozy vibes either.

I'm honestly not even sure if it got changed or not, because I was so apalled by that quest line I never bothered befriending her when beta went live.

[snow grove]

Always, I WFH now, I can dress the part

[mossy mica]

Just don’t stand up and walk away mid video call. 🤣

[fiery perch]

Grandpa Roan? 🤣
(appreciate u)

[snow grove]

I got a wheelie chair, I will just slide over hahaha

[mossy mica]

If you’re a grandpa, then what am I? 😭

[loud axle]

Fair. Grandma.

[knotty zinc]

Oh but it’s a requirement, otherwise you won’t get the reward of a call from HR

[fiery perch]

I appreciate you hahah

[mossy mica]

slide to the left, slide to the right

[marsh depot]

I don't know which I found more annoying, the customers or my coworkers

[fiery perch]

I honestly don't fully remember a lot of her questlines anymore, because after the vibes she gave me, I started skipping dialogue or just straight up ignoring her. She gave me the ick, to put lightly.

And I also agree with what you said, of course

[mossy mica]

B O T H

[pearl wave]

am i crazy or underground servers not changing items???

[knotty zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/slide-socks-sexy-sockslide-dms-gif-13175827

[snow grove]

Do you remember the unalive yourself tones? They are still in the game.

[loud axle]

Listen I have a very physical job my brittle bones aren't what they once were 😭

[mossy mica]

I say this as I’m only one year older. 🤣 But, fair. My knees snapped, crackled, and popped the other week, and my partner was just like 👀👀

[loud axle]

I'm not sure I ever fully picked up on that honestly, but it could very well be the case.

[snow grove]

Oh they were there....subtle but there

[fiery perch]

Some aren't as subtle, tbh. :\

[mossy mica]

HR: “We’ve received multiple complaints on how you’re too good looking.”

[pearl wave]

have it been bought to s6's attention?

[knotty zinc]

Especially from Hassian

[snow grove]

....they made the game

[fiery perch]

yes. it's just how (at least one character im thinking of) dialogue is.

[marsh depot]

Is this actually a thing?

[snow grove]

Yeah one whole questline is about it

[fiery perch]

I even tried to give feedback/mention it lightly int he discord, and ppl essentially said it's fine, because it's ""realistic"" as you bond with a friend, and being open about it. and im just like ... ok? i guess.

[snow grove]

Been a while since I did it, but if I remember correctly drowning was heavly involved

[pearl wave]

thats just yikes

[marsh depot]

I honestly skip through most dialogues so I've never noticed but damn 😭

[loud axle]

Chrissy wake uuuuup, I don't like this Chrissy >_<

[marsh depot]

I mean, there are definitely ways to handle those subjects in games ||(Shane in Stardew Valley)|| but that's disheartening.

[knotty zinc]

Ok, a friend growing up. We were fresh out of high school. He wanted the job as school janitor at a middle school to raise cash for college. He was turned down and told it was because he was too good looking and they didn’t want to have the student body distracted.

[fiery perch]

It just was another character i just avoid a lot, because that stuff is very unsettling for me, esp when I play a game to be... you know, relaxed and, for lack of better words, cosy? comfort.

to play something and then having that kind of stuff pop up, is... not great.

[weak wigeon]

he was underground LMAO

[fiery perch]

OH yeah, this seems to be common rn with them lmao

[loud axle]

still? oof

[snow grove]

You think they fix bugs around these parts?

[fiery perch]

how else will auni fill his bug collection

[weak wigeon]

[loud axle]

The sad part is they do fix them sometimes, but then they just pop back up a few months later

[snow grove]

YOu better start grinding for him....rng is more too

[loud axle]

cough cough wallpaper bug

[fiery perch]

flashbacks to my cafe wall always reverting to wood paneling

[snow grove]

I still can't connect to the Bay 80% of the time without spamming reconnect

[warm python]

Delayed but to whoever said that when people started fawning over frogbert, S6 decided what their roadmap would be..... oh god how does that feel so real and painful

[knotty zinc]

The hotpot bug especially

[warm python]

beginning of the "end" LOL

[knotty zinc]

Not to mention being able to apply a floor to the roof of the gazebo, it’s not even a glitch it fully lets you do it

[snow grove]

Anyone else remember the bug hunting quest for all the players? Man I wish we got more than......1 of those

[mossy mica]

I liked Tamala’s aesthetic, but the fact that there are folks IRL like that (ex. “Go do this, this, and this for me, and I’ll do nothing for you ever) is so off putting. She has the best house and is very aesthetically pleasing; I just understand why many players despise her, and the ones that are obsessed view her as “dommy mommy” and/or are probably a bit narcissistic.

[loud axle]

That green cylinder plushie comes to mind as well.

[marsh depot]

I remember Pocket Camp would do a bunch of these every so often 😭 I still can't get over service ended today

[snow grove]

The meme that made a plush XD

[warm python]

That was definitely a "okay how do we keep players logging in" thing but at least it was something for players to do

[knotty zinc]

It’s the miniature version of the home run bag from smash bros

[snow grove]

That was our 1 MMO aspect

[warm python]

oh god that stupid green cylinder lmao. honestly the cylinder didn't bother me as much, it was cute, but frogbert felt like a forced meme

[fiery perch]

I think it's cute that that became a plush, since it was a bug, but i feel like it was almost overbearing/overdone in a sense, too

[marsh depot]

Ngl, I usually stray away from the Tamala simps lmao

[fiery perch]

this is probably why i dont like frogbert that much. bc of how forced it felt hahaha

[pearl wave]

same, i honestly dislike the vibes of simps they been saying in this server x.x

[knotty zinc]

Don’t let tamommy know

[snow grove]

You're telling me you don't like small.....medium and GIANT FROG GASP

[mossy mica]

It was @sudden bay (hope you’ve been doing well 🖤)

I absolutely never got the hype on Frogbert. It’s ugly (that’s subjective), and the biggest one is just obnoxious. I’ll admit that I did like Cyl, though, and didn’t mind acquiring 12ish of those.

[marsh depot]

I got Hoddady on my side, she can't hurt me /j.

[fiery perch]

[grizzled mist]

We're basically what they used to call "latchkey kids" now. A few stuffed animals here and there to make up for us having to fend for ourselves. 😆

[warm python]

Like speaking of forced, wasn't frogbert the thing that they were like "the more steam wishlists we get the bigger the frog gets" (idk if it was frogbert or something else)

[loud axle]

I think it would have been a fun April Fool's Day thing but the fact that the frog was in the game for like, what... two months? Excessive

[knotty zinc]

Every time I call her traumala, the simps come out

[fiery perch]

yes

[hollow crescent]

i liked that we got the big frogbert, was just funny to me that we got 2 extras

[sudden bay]

It's so true though! and I love my Cyl family

[hollow crescent]

yea and we didn’t hit the mark but they still gave it anyway cuz we were close to it

[snow grove]

I thought it was longer than 2 months, it was like the whole summer

[marsh depot]

Yep lol. Reminds me of how in Honkai Star Rail there was this meme about trashcans, and Hoyo decided to run with it. People got fed up with it real quick, but they're still forcing it lmao.

[warm python]

Yeah that put a really bad taste in my mouth cause like it was just artificially inflating the wishlist numbers. which I get why a company would do that, but it's still kinda scummy to me

you'd get a ton of people wishlisting a game they already played just because f r o g e

[mossy mica]

Before diving into her character, I was definitely a “Team Tamala,” but after progressing her friendship AND romance, I was just like “girl, no,” stop being a [fill in the blank].

[hollow crescent]

i think one month was a bug and they didn’t know how he stayed

[fiery perch]

I honestly like the trashcan thing, just because it has felt like an actual running joke. It didnt feel as forced like frogbert did.

It def was more of a surprise to me 🤣

[knotty zinc]

The fact zekis fur turned purple

[loud axle]

Oh everything around that time was just preparing for the Daybreak acquisition.

A group of us were honestly wondering if that's where it was heading when we saw the constant login rewards and incentives to get those daily interaction numbers up.

[knotty zinc]

That double entendres was something

[mossy mica]

I have a Cyl army, and they’re just sporadically placed across my plot, as if they’re human.

[fiery perch]

Mhmmm. definitely

[warm python]

Y u p I was definitely one of those people lol. They were going hard on it

[snow grove]

And it was the best MMO time for the game, ironic

[loud axle]

Like the completely real and totally not made up community bug hunt thing.

[mossy mica]

Homegirl has zero accountability.

[marsh depot]

I honestly didn't mind it because the events they made were so fun lmao but I know people on reddit where like "STOP IT WITH THE TRASHCAN ALREADY"

I liked Frogbert at first but then it just became really forced.

[knotty zinc]

We should be able to fire the cannon

[fiery perch]

i know! like omg, the community did so much for that. can't believe we got that many bugs for that /joking

[fiery perch]

LMAO yeah, like it actually FELT like a joke and in a sense more organic than how frogbert was/is

[sudden bay]

WHAT?! You mean that was a set up and we were going to get it anyway. (btw, never a bug did I kill during that time)

[warm python]

something something we already have enough bugs in the game

[hollow crescent]

auni just fills your mailbox with them

[marsh depot]

I honestly don't mind her too much, but she is just like if they put Mother Gothel in the game with sliiiiightly more depth.

[mossy mica]

I put the large one on top of my pier because I didn’t know what to do with it.

[loud axle]

100% like can you imagine how mad everyone would have been if they'd been like "oops we didn't make the goal oh well better luck next time"

[fiery perch]

ok but what kind of bug
If we mean actual bugs, then like .. 👀 i dont mind. that's a fixation

But like... game riddled ones? maybe that's why my wall for my cafe is never fixed....

[snow grove]

I would love it

[marsh depot]

I just sank mine in the lake on my second plot since it felt appropiate.

[fiery perch]

i can just imagine the community getting upset at others for not contributing enough :s

[sudden bay]

ah man, that would have happened for sure too

[snow grove]

You mean like @sudden bay

[sudden bay]

You guys did well without me

[snow grove]

We pickup for our team ❤️

[warm python]

considering how easily the community can get riled up at each other, m a n it would have been messy

[knotty zinc]

Skateboard is still broken, as are the blue candles. But hey! New overpriced cash store stuff

[fiery perch]

oh, i mean... me too 👀 i barely caught any of those bugs, unless it was for testing purposes during that time

[snow grove]

What's wrong with the blue candles?

[marsh depot]

I've already seen it happening in an in-game community event, so definitely.

[fiery perch]

oh, and how they did that event and then afterwards dropped the bug plushes. not great timing 🤣

[snow grove]

So you were the other player!

[mossy mica]

Wait, what is broken about the blue candles?

[knotty zinc]

The short ones can only go on the floor at the moment

[mossy mica]

I put a short one on a crate earlier.

[snow grove]

Mine are on a table?

[marsh depot]

Honestly same, I can't even remember if I caught any at all back then.

[fiery perch]

guilty

[knotty zinc]

Don’t move them. It won’t let you put them back

[snow grove]

You won't be allowed in anymore community events from here on out......

[marsh depot]

God, that sucks even more, guess I won't be back to decorating in a while.

[sudden bay]

At least the candle light now

[fiery perch]

And the cute little light flower things, from maji market

[loud axle]

I'm still triggered by the bugs after I spent weeks researching for the wiki and then they up and raised the catch rates on me 😭

[fiery perch]

oh noo... what ever shall i do... slowly alt tabs back to Enshrouded to build

[warm python]

when I was still playing I used to say "the game already has PVP, it's called Bahari" because of all the arguing I'd see over nodes. and we see it with people fighting about the hotpot tables too. I know there was another thing that had me raising an eyebrow that had a lot of drama but I can't recall what it was now lmao

[snow grove]

https://tenor.com/view/itysl-i-think-you-should-leave-tim-robinson-you-cant-do-that-cant-gif-23125076

[mossy mica]

Oh, the Bugpalooza thing?

I thought that’s you’ve all been talking about all along… 😅😅

[fiery perch]

I'm honestly so upset for you 😭

[knotty zinc]

And the bug display frames

[mossy mica]

All I’m missing is the starred rainbow butterfly. I’ve caught like 13 of the nonstarred ones.

[knotty zinc]

And the skateboard, and the… you know what I’ll be here all night if I continue

[loud axle]

Yeah I don't think I ever saw a starred one. I caught like 10 regular :S

[marsh depot]

LMAO fair point. Reminds me of the players who will accuse you of cheating for using the overlay.

[snow grove]

I have like 20 starred, let me gift one to you.....oh..NO SOCIAL ASPECTS

[fiery perch]

I beg to differ .. 👀
Also, from me talking about a cafe and having a small tavern area, i'm sure it's easy to guess what i like building in games. 🤣

it's always my go-to

[knotty zinc]

Flow trees

[loud axle]

Also just admitting to my own vanity I do sometimes log in to the wiki to make sure people haven't destroyed my pages

[warm python]

there was a whole Thing about that granted because S6 couldn't quite decide for a while whether the overlay was allowed or not

[marsh depot]

Saaame 😭 It's even worse that I almost caught one once at a grove but someone ran into it

[snow grove]

slowly goes over to the wiki

[warm python]

RIGHT YES. when they first started groves and people at each others' throats over chopping them too early or too late

[mossy mica]

I was actually playing Palia this morning because why not? Finally played around with the yardwork, and I like how it’s turning out. That said, I’m 100 shy of the building limit, so 🤷🏽‍♀️

[fiery perch]

ugh i wish so heavily you could trade & help ppl with starred fish/bugs/everything

[grizzled mist]

https://tenor.com/view/tmnt-leonardo-donatello-looks-like-were-on-our-own-on-our-own-gif-24010605

[fiery perch]

"first started" ... this never stopped

[snow grove]

I saved up like 100 plushies that people didn't have for the trade update....only to find out that I can't just give them to people. Like the dumbest move ever

[loud axle]

One time I saw people were adding in coordinates of "confirmed catches" for bugs and I was like... nah fam, I'ma hide this so it only shows in the source code. I confirmed these locations when I spent two weeks doing nothing but bug catching

[warm python]

Building limits are so painful when you love clutter (me crying at FFXIV.... though they're doing improvements on that end soon at least)

[fiery perch]

clutter gives me LIFE

[hollow crescent]

same, i’m trying my best to keep non star ingredients and it’s gettin harder to do so

[fiery perch]

at least it's the thought that counts, and that alone, makes me def appreciate you

[mossy mica]

The bulk of mine I’ve caught during flow groves, but they’ve all been regular.

Same with fish, I’m only missing the starred Duskray and Giant Goldfish. I have the nonstarred ones.

[warm python]

SAME. I have my FFXIV house set up like I'd imagine a certain character's house, and in my head she'd have parts of it super cluttered and messy but I ran out of slots lmfsjah

[snow grove]

If they ever allow us to trade starred anything. I will save a butterfly for you

[fiery perch]

this is where i think it's so silly that the higher lvl gardening, the fact you end up only having starred crops... is so silly? like. it feels like it punishes you?

[fiery perch]

bless. i think i might have one of those actually though? but i mean, i wont say no to more...

[hollow crescent]

i’d imagine only a higher chance at star not only star xD

[snow grove]

Is there anything you don't have? I have almost everything in the game stockpiled hahah

[knotty zinc]

If I ever login to FF14 again, first thing I’ll need to do is get all my stuff back that was in my house lmao

[fiery perch]

It's possible. I honestly stopped bothering keeping track when i got tired of playing the game for (lack of) accessiblity reasons, and the ppl i used to play with all drifting off after the cake nerfs

[snow grove]

Ah the cake nerfs, another horrible update

[fiery perch]

i just hated how they talked about the cake nerfs in the notes tbh.

[knotty zinc]

What got nerfed from the cake

[fiery perch]

I don't think i would of been as upset by it, as i was, if they just worded it better. i felt very talked down to and belittled.

[snow grove]

The money from them, they used to sell for a lot more and it was basically a way to max out gold

[warm python]

depending on when your house got demoed it may or may not be there, I know once while I was on break from the game some bleep "friend" of mine booted me from the FC I was in with them for no reason and never told me. so my stuff went to an NPC, but I never knew and said NPC only holds it for so long. I lost so much stuff because this person didn't have the decency to tell me they kicked me lmao

[knotty zinc]

So instead of uncapping the gold, they just nerf it

[snow grove]

Yeah for the economy in a single player game

[hollow crescent]

yea i didn’t like it either, and it seems most of the time things need to be looked at before the post anything cuz it’s usually “needs to be better worded”

[warm python]

Cake nerf drove me nuts, not because of the cake nerf but because they nerfed E V E R Y T H I N G. every dish's price

[marsh depot]

This was my first break of trust in the devs. My biggest issue was how they assured they would only "balance" the cake parties but ended up nerfing cooking overall. Back then I was already concerned by the trend of devs nerfing stuff without giving us any compensation and well...

[snow grove]

Then the mining nerf

[warm python]

Had a problem and instead of using a hammer they took a stick of dynamite to it

[grizzled mist]

They've been scrambling to suppress our progression any way they can for over a year now.

[knotty zinc]

Yeah mine got demoed long ago. I don’t know if I can even get anything back

[snow grove]

But what sucks is, after level 20, progress means nothing

[hollow crescent]

like if there was gold trading i understand, and i guess they didn’t want ppl having mass amounts of gold right at the start but… it doesn’t stop ppl still from all most hitting those same numbers anyway

[marsh depot]

Specially when all gold is really useful for is purchasing furniture and zeki coins

[grizzled mist]

It's easier to make the game a slog than add content I suppose.

[knotty zinc]

Illegal rugs and paintings

[loud axle]

From Roan's pre-alpha feedback doc, circa July 2021:

Progression as a whole seemed very fast for this pre-alpha. While players need to feel like they are always making progress in the game, I find a slow burn to be much more rewarding than quickly blazing through the game. I also worry about the longevity of the game, if players are allowed to progress a little too quickly through things.
Slow down NPC relationship gains
Increase gold prices for luxury items / upgrades
Increase the amount of EXP needed to level up (both skills and character level) by increasing the amount needed for each level.

[snow grove]

Then the 0 coin Reths Century Egg bug, man I maxxed out goold like 6 times from that bug

[warm python]

oh man lmfkajsd I remember that

[marsh depot]

I remember seeing that but didn't want to risk getting banned or something for bug exploiting lol

[mossy mica]

You all just let me let my phone die. Anyhoser, HI

[loud axle]

(I think they actually DID slow down NPC relationship gains to be fair)

[snow grove]

I had an auto clicker setup and once your inventory gets full it sends it to you box, and the boxes don't have a limit if it's being transferred, so I got like 600000 eggs

[hollow crescent]

is that why some of them show backwards reputation sometimes

[grizzled mist]

That was just a visual bug iirc

[hollow crescent]

yea it is i’m just joking:P

[knotty zinc]

Oh, just a reminder that the Zeki bug is back for the third time

[grizzled mist]

Palia is never buggy so why would you assume it was false? I had to make sure you knew because it totally never happens! 😆

[hollow crescent]

this is me but not so much as the banned part (tho it happens in other games) just the idea of losing stuff

[mossy mica]

This is why we're so overwhelmed. Lived through four decades, two millennia, WAY TOO MANY significant current events, and i'm not even 40!

[snow grove]

If they banned people for that, that would be a very poor response

[knotty zinc]

Same. I miss the 90s

[mossy mica]

Take me back to simpler times.

[hollow crescent]

yea, like in wow i know ppl get suspended or something for a few days (unless it was a really bad exploit)

[snow grove]

Best we got is climate change and war. Take it or leave it

[knotty zinc]

Screw it. I’m going back to the 1600s to be a pirate

[snow grove]

WoW has a real money aspect to it though, this game doesn't

[fiery perch]

i think at most, they took away (some) ppls gold or reset it or something?

[hollow crescent]

yea

[grizzled mist]

Bring oranges and lemons. The scurvey will ruin your pleasant ocean cruise!

[snow grove]

Can confirm, they never took my money

[weak wigeon]

Btw... Is it me or the character turns weird?? Is it just inside of temples? Or maybe it's bc i haven't played in a while...

[knotty zinc]

Yep

[hollow crescent]

think they wouldn’t know how to and accidentally take everyone’s money away

[mossy mica]

Why not both!? 🥹

[snow grove]

It's like the Army, if it happens to one it happens to all!

[fiery perch]

Yeah, i just ermember some people mentioning something like that? but it wasn't everyone.

[hollow crescent]

nah they changed some of their animations so maybe it’s a bit weird now

[knotty zinc]

Ah hell, ill become a ships captain for the crown

[snow grove]

For you, you can have both. One Climate Change and War coming right up

[hollow crescent]

nooo

[grizzled mist]

Can I interest you in a viable medic who occasionally gets seasick but loves the ocean?

[knotty zinc]

Absolutely, a medic is a medic. Always needed

Preferably vomit outside of the patient

[grizzled mist]

My aim is pretty decent

[snow grove]

Can I be on the crew....I work on computers so I don't know what position you want me on

[knotty zinc]

Deckhand. Working the rigging

[snow grove]

I need my inhaler than, but it's a deal

[grizzled mist]

I can arrange that

[knotty zinc]

The cool ocean air is good for asthma

[snow grove]

Sweeeet, I can breathe baby!

At least I don't get seasick, so no vomit from me 🙂

[grizzled mist]

Art will tell us nightly yarns about pay telephones and hacky sacks

[knotty zinc]

We need more riggers, especially to rotate out of the crows nest

[snow grove]

They better be the sand hacky sacks or I'm out

[grizzled mist]

There are other kinds?

[knotty zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-gif-18899063

Hacky sack anyone?

[grizzled mist]

I need that!

[snow grove]

I was promised sand 😦

Like this

[grizzled mist]

I say we take over the SW Kilima dock and start a trade empire

[mossy mica]

I'll be in the rocks.

[red comet]

Hmmm. The "conclusion" to the prologue was a bit......lackluster and underwhelming

[knotty zinc]

I can’t find one with the Jolly Roger

[knotty zinc]

If low effort from devs had a visual representation

[mossy mica]

While the nameplate reward is the best nameplate in game (to me), we should've gotten more than that after waiting half a year.

[knotty zinc]

Yeah, I was hoping for a sweet piece of decor

[mossy mica]

Same!

[knotty zinc]

You know what would be cool. A pool table we could play

And pinball

[mossy mica]

Sidebar: I just realised there's a placeable surface on the yardwork log. Great place for some of the potato pods.

[knotty zinc]

With how buggy the physics are in this game, playing pool would be hilarious

[snow grove]

You don't enjoy 4 3 min sidequests? LOL

[grizzled mist]

Less funny when you realise they've somehow made it rng based

[knotty zinc]

That’s when I’d take the pool cue, suddenly appear on the devs plot, and just stand there menacingly

[snow grove]

And you have to pay to shoot at each ball. .99 each 🙂

[mossy mica]

It's not three minutes ||when you go the wrong way at the Roots Temple because the hub loads you in facing away from the Gardener, so you make it all the way back through the tunnels.|| It's okay, it's fine. I'm fine. 🥹

[snow grove]

Yeah then it takes 5 mins LOL

[mossy mica]

All I had to do was turn around.....

[knotty zinc]

Once the devs ask what I’m doing, I just say “RNG determines my next move”

[snow grove]

rolls dice

[knotty zinc]

FNAF terror

[fiery perch]

you gotta pay for that

im honestly so sad that emote is locked behind premium

[knotty zinc]

All emotes going forward will be

[weak wigeon]

for a sec i thought there was a huge baby dragon in the temple LOL

RUDE

"Oh, yeah, he does that" 😭

[azure fulcrum]

Art is overwhelming. Lol

[fiery perch]

...What kind of responses are those lol

[loud axle]

It's wild thinking of the progression of paid items. Outfits, then pets, then landscapes, now emotes...

[hollow crescent]

||the water/fire are not thaat bad xD but yea the others...|| still made me laugh tho ngl

[fiery perch]

||Right? For some reason, the earth sign always seems like theyre a... for lack of better words, a jerk. 😭 and that one is making the air sign look so... i dont even know how to put it into words.

i always got the idea that air signs are more naive and oblivious, but that response just.. doesnt fit that imo 😭 ||

[fiery perch]

big agree...
i just get so sad over the emote, in specific, because some people would of made such cute mini-game esque things with that rolling dice one :(

But now it just feels paywalled

[hollow crescent]

||i feel like earth more forward, thats what was mentioned of them so sometimes they come off like that, sometimes i think it could have been a bit better xD air is supposed to be more carefree so i guess its like "yea that happens" kind of thing"||

id why i spoiler that its mentioned but oh well xD

[fiery perch]

Definitely, i feel like earth was more, definitely blunt and straightforward. But i feel like in palia, sometimes it just looks like 'jerk'

idk i still think it would of been neat if you didnt see what responses represented what element/sign. And gradually saw your 'personality' show through gameplay. I think that woulda been more neat than essentially "choosign" from the beginning

[hollow crescent]

i think for important thigns they could keep the element,s but silly thigns like that might not need it xD

[fiery perch]

honestly, even if there was an option to turn on/off the elements on the dialogue options, woulda been nice tbh, i think

I just love the idea of gradually seeing what 'personality' i actually would be. bc i feel like seeing the specific element/sign influences my decision

[lyric night]

it definitely seems like they expand the premium stuff offerings to have enough variety in a future battlepass
elderwoods will for sure launch with one, if not it will arrive shortly after

but I guess a battlepass will at least be a slight chance to get free cosmetic(s)

I can understand why the emote is premium but would’ve been nice for players to create their own boardgames

[scarlet hazel]

earth seems like an uncaring and blunt jerk to me honestly. a person no one would want around because everything out of their mouth seems to be an insult.

air seems like theyre stoned 24/7 and never comes down from it, so they cant be taken seriously at all cause you dont even know if theyre even there half of the time

fire feels straightforward but also very... excitable. like a dog that hasn't been trained? that's what comes to mind whenever i see some of the fire responses but they seem to just be very chipper all the time and more extreme

[small olive]

BATTLEPASS? for PALIA?

There's no BATTLE or COMETITION happening, how tf would they pull that off???

[azure fulcrum]

Just go with the flow, man.

[pearl wave]

idk why will we want battlepass or even suggest one smh

[small olive]

Forreal, nobody asked for or wanted that

[pearl wave]

battlepasses are not my taste tbh

[marsh depot]

Even League is changing their battlepass system now

[fiery perch]

Well, i think that's just the common name for it. But a pass that you can earn rewards for and stuff, would make sense depending on how it'd be done.

Weekly challenges/goals, etc etc. basically all that moreso going towards the contribution towards that.

I personally am not looking forward to how they'll prob implement it. I wouldn't mind if they somehow did it in the similar way Deceive Inc does-- where there's no fomo, and you can choose whichever bpass to make progress in. And choose when to buy for the premium rewards, etc. ... but i think we know, that isn't how this one would work in palia

[azure fulcrum]

There could be competitions based on the skills.
Fishing, hunting, bug catching can be competitive.

[pearl wave]

how so? /gen

[mossy mica]

Mine switches between water and fire, but I hate some of the responses are tied to certain personality types. Currently, mine is Water, but it was Fire for the longest. Some of the responses aren't "me" at all. I feel Fire has the more direct answers, but the exclamation marks make it seem "excited."

[marsh depot]

Omggg Deceive got mentioned! I loved their system honestly.

[fiery perch]

It's the one I always metnion as an example whenever ppl talk about bpasses lol, i genuinely enjoy how they do their system with it. It never feels fomo bc of that.

[small olive]

The paywalls are already a massive turnoff, if we end up with some sort of "battlepass" for what's supposed to be a community co-op game, me and my friends are walking.

[scarlet hazel]

yeah fire seems exausting to be around cause all the responses always have an exclamation mark

[bitter rain]

Wait are they actually talking about doing that

[fiery perch]

No, it's moreso people talking about if they did do that.

[bitter rain]

Phew lmao

[mossy mica]

While Water is more calm, some of the responses feels so naïve and helpless, in a way. Like, I'm not a fragile damsel in distress.

[scarlet hazel]

water may be a bit despressing and a crybaby but id rather chill with someone whos as quiet as me then any of the other elements in this game ngl

[pearl wave]

same, i do not want battlepass :/

[marsh depot]

It's not going to be a monthly battlepass tied to an event anymore.

[pearl wave]

interesting :o

[marsh depot]

So its going to be like a year round thing from my understanding, so you only purchase a battlepass once a year or so.