💬│palia-discussions

[frozen falcon]

Enjoy your weekend!

[steep idol]

@vagrant meadow @dense quarry, from a gen chat regular

[dense quarry]

hazel must have 2FA then!

[wraith notch]

That or magically discord has chosen to ignore flagging them lol

In which case, great lol

[vagrant meadow]

either way I'll take it. I know discord doesn't have a phone number from me.

[wraith notch]

[vagrant star]

Had to enter mine... I don't like this, at all.
Got around it in another server by getting a server role, but apparently that doesn't work in here... I have a bunch roles, after all.

[dense quarry]

has to happen for the bots unfortunately :-/ i imagine once they stop being so intense they will prob turn it back down

[vagrant star]

I know it has to happen, I just wish there was a way around it... Discord doesn't need to know my phone number!

[arctic coral]

Bots have been craaazy lately, so many automod warnings in literally every server 😭

[dense quarry]

fr!!!

[worn snow]

really it's much more secure that way :,,) it gives u access to 2 factor authentification which is muuuuuch more secure than any password

[spare skiff]

Woops typo

[vagrant star]

I get it's more secure for the server (and for preventing my account from getting hacked). However, I'm far more worried about my phone number (which is directly traceable to me) getting leaked somewhere, than about my account being hacked. Even if I lose access to my account, or someone gains access to it, not much would have been lost, there just is barely anything on it. And it already verifies where I am - when I log in from somewhere else, I need to verify that I'm me with my e-mail. So, additional risk for me with not that many gains.

[alpine minnow]

Anyone know the best way to get the Smooth Shiny pebble? I assume that's the only one I need. Supposed to be from Oysters

[merry crater]

Is extremely RNG; I’ve had one but iirc the Pebble Plundered achievement is currently bugged (I haven’t checked with support this patch, but last patch they confirmed for me it was bugged)
Keep an eye out for oysters for sure, but I think online descriptions suggest you don’t need all the shiny pebbles for the achievement - I’m assuming that’s what you’re after the smooth one for at least.

[worn snow]

eh i get that if u dont use discord v much but really i use discord to communicate with people much more than my phone number in the first place.

[alpine minnow]

Oh if it's bugged I won't worry too much about it lol. Thanks!

[wraith notch]

Good to know it's confirmed

I had suspicion

[vagrant star]

My issue with the phone number is that it's surprisingly easy to trace it to me (irl me, not the info you have about me on here - my actual name is not Finn or Jenna, for example).
Edit: I don't use my phone number that much either. Mostly e-mails... (Edited to redact my ign.)

[wraith notch]

I started hoarding unopened oysters so that when its fixed ill have a head start lol

[merry crater]

Ye, I had kept a list of all the pebbles and after gifting each one and the achievement didn’t pop I started checking the locations again; figured contacting support was better than grinding for the RNG related ones saved some time and frustration there.
I’m hoping it’ll automatically trigger when it’s fixed but if a few patches go by I’ll probably follow up with support.

[wraith notch]

[alpine minnow]

Thanks for that clarification! Now I don't need to waste 100 hours for an achievement that's impossible to finish lol. I'll just wastethat 100 hours trying to get a Star Qual Ruby instead 😄

[worn snow]

i mean yeaahhh but isnt ur email too?

[merry crater]

One of my NPC quests were bugged, and it was something support had to eventually manually trigger for me; I had previously had a ticket with them about it that was closed since the issue was “being worked on” - so it’s def worth circling back every few patches if anyone has anything that isn’t progressing as expected!

[merry crater]

All my luck to you~ I just finished collecting starred star stones over the weekend. Sapphire was my most elusive it was so disheartening.

[alpine minnow]

I have literally 8 star sapphires right now. I've gained 75+ levels since the star qual stones released and I've mined over 1000 BARS of Palium. It may never happen for me

[vagrant star]

It isn't, no. Doesn't contain a phone number, contains a nickname (along the lines of "Notmyname Noname"), and I'm born at whichever date was entered as default... Sure if you track which devices access it it's linked to me but not much other than that.

[merry crater]

I just kept telling myself “at least I’m making some extra money” as I mined away. I was running three furnaces and three glass makers to process all the extra stuff didn’t make the grind any less mundane though. Majispeed~

[alpine minnow]

Lol yeah same, gotta find some way to keep going! Thanks 😄

[native perch]

might just be me, but I find the rate at which recipes from the new rummage pile drop just as poorly as the lucky coin items... but with the rummage pile you only have 1 chance a day to get something. I get it that it's a way to keep is busy in the game and it's all based on luck, but back with the winter items I kept getting the items I already had the recipe for as well... I wish there could be some type of optimisation maybe that would increase your chances on actually getting items you didn't have yet (or at least not get 1 daisy or 5 stone each time )

[lyric night]

thats bcs they have around the same droprate
also something around 0.2%, can't recall the exact number

[merry crater]

The winter piles left me so bitter since I missed out on some items. Would’ve loved to see those have a loot pool where you always got something new until you had one of each, and then they’d start giving duplicates.
With the non-seasonal piles I wish every X piles you interacted with would guarantee a decor item. Or at least much better odds.
I’m able to log in most days long enough to check piles, but it has to be so lame for the (likely many) players who can only play once or twice a week or less.

[warm python]

imo the winter piles being RNG was a horrific idea. Like it's bad enough having rng on piles, but rng on limited time piles? people could be logging in every day and still miss out on items because of bad luck, and that sucks, espec for a 'cozy' game

[merry crater]

That is what happened to me (I missed a chunk of days due to holiday chaos though) and it was the first time I felt genuinely angry at the game. Lot of things reasonably frustrate me but when the event ended and I saw I was missing stuff I felt a certain kind of rage

[warm python]

and then it's like welp better luck next year which suuuucks

[stone vault]

I have gone there with groups for lure parites a few times- nothing for me. Just spent 600 bug bombs yesterday and 4 lures and ran around and around as well, nothing. Fishing wise as well- I need 2 starred fish for the Master achievement- shimemrfin and swordfin eel--- I'm level 201 fishing. It's not like I haven't put in the time/effort ffs- the RNG seems to be going backwards.

[ocean stone]

[warm python]

[stone vault]

@warm python Thinking they should put a makeshift outhouse on the chappa pile-- cuz I get poop.

[weary tundra]

A quick word of warning on 2FA for discord specifically -- it is poorly implemented and will not protect you against someone stealing your login cookie. The login cookie can also let someone change login settings, etc for that account without always needing to reauthenticate.

Not saying don't use it, but please be aware of the limitations of the implementation if you do. It's not much more secure than a password when it comes to Discord.

[ocean stone]

It does mean that it's an extra step so someone cannot just establish a sign on token in a browser without authenticating. It's not perfect, but Ive seen 2fa prevent a breach at my organization since they couldn't by pass the 2fa requirement

[upper kettle]

Just a quick suggestion and wondering if anyone feels the same - i would love to be able to toggle between the different area maps. Especially being able to do so on the home plot & being able to see for example if Hassian is in Kilima or Bahari.

[weary tundra]

Right, but the main issue is that in some cases you can bypass the Discord 2FA, if someone steals your login cookie (vs stealing your password and trying to log in that way). So just something to keep in mind.

One of my friends got hit by this attack and the attacker was able to change his 2FA settings without needing to reauthenticate, and after that Discord support refused to talk to him bc he didn't have the 2FA code.

[crimson hornet]

Hello
is the steam version going to get achievements ?
and is there cross play and/or cross save between steam and switch ?

[ocean stone]

It is definitely good to be aware that it's not perfect! I hate to hear that about your friend too. That's awful

[vagrant star]

Crossplay and crosssave I think yes, not sure about the achievemnets though.

[cosmic scarab]

Hello everyone! I have a question! I am wanting to host a cake party, but I know there have been some changes. Previously, you would use jam to frost the cakes. Do you still use jam, or do you use something else now?

this is why im asking

[steep nexus]

Jam is no longer used. It got replaced with fruit and sugar

[cosmic scarab]

ahhhh thank you! I will be selling my jam i guess!

well.. i mean. its decent money haha!!

[steep nexus]

It's still a great passive income if you got tons of apples:)

[cosmic scarab]

for SURE!

[upper kettle]

holy cow! i gotta grind & level up my gardening apparently!

[cosmic scarab]

yeah. i made a bunch of them for cake parties back in like.. september/october i think? and i knew a nerf was coming. but then i ended up having a bunch of life stuff going on so i wasnt able to play and use them before cake parties changed lol

[near sluice]

yesssssss I sell "extra" seeds and jams as some passive money, it's worked out great so far!

[vagrant star]

Does anyone know which bug they're talking about in #🐦│social-feed ?

[steep nexus]

Could it be the smoke bug?

[vagrant star]

No clue, I don't see any mention of which bug it is...

[steep nexus]

I'm just looking at the picture where the chimney smoke seems to have the bug. I'm guessing that's what they're talking about

[merry crater]

It seems like their memeing that Najuma was the culprit for the black smoke.

[vagrant star]

Doesn't show any picture for me... Are you looking wherever they posted it? Or is my Discord bugged?

[merry crater]

Would need to click the link to see the image - I did at least.

[mighty sky]

When purchasing rooms for your plot, do they just keep going up in price or do they cap out?

[vagrant star]

I see, thanks!

[merry crater]

I have not reached a cap (have only purchased at least four of each room size), but am uncertain if one exists. I imagine if one does it’ll be after quite a few room purchases.

[west marlin]

Maybe today is the day the steam page will be updated to accurately reflect the real state of the game 🙏

[merry crater]

I tried looking up the costs online and have only found the harvest house cost topping out after the 8th one, but am unsure if this is accurate or if it applies to the rooms too.

[merry crater]

This is something that I really hope will be addressed but I’ve sadly given up on

[mighty sky]

i'm just curious as to how expensive these rooms will get over time if it keeps going up 😅

[merry crater]

The 8th Harvest House is listed at 110,000 so I imagine rooms will get very pricy too.
My most sustainable money making method is gardening and then selling jam/pickles and seeds. Getting my home lot the way I wanted it def took a long time due to the initial building costs.

Ooooh if you click the links to the pages for the specific ad ons, there’s charts showing the costs https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Housing_Add-ons

[dim lantern]

how do yall set up your crafting stuffs? haven't gotten into the house decorating yet and so everythings just outside in a field but looking to revamp it now that i'm running out of other things to do

[vagrant meadow]

Most of it is outside, in the back yard. The seed makers and worm farm are by the garden. The pickle barrels are in the kitchen and the loom is in the bedroom.

[clever cove]

I put my crafting under a pavilion to make it look more tidy

[dim lantern]

my pavs building itself right now so maybe I'll wait until its done!

[clever cove]

I also built a workshop shed where I put in the sawmill/smelter/glass blower in the main hall, and then a creative space where the loom/work table/ modification table goes I've been decorating the space but need more medals for the furniture blueprint decor to complete my creative space

[west marlin]

I fear for the steam release

[dim lantern]

wait my social-feed discord chahnnel has disappeared?

[dense quarry]

underneath!

[steep nexus]

It should be below in the "Kilima bulletin board"

[dim lantern]

ohhhhhh they moved it? mine used to be under the server news, where that locked button is showing!

[dense quarry]

they may have done ya!!!

[dim lantern]

lol i hid the bulletin board cause it wasnt a channel group i ever used

[lyric night]

wasn't changed, it was always under kilima bulletin board

[modest merlin]

There should be an in-game notification, similar to when you have mail or a plot visitor, that reminds you to check your garden plot.

[cinder comet]

[dense quarry]

it's the virgin meowry again ...

[upbeat ginkgo]

Like a visual if you don’t have sound enabled to hear the morning sound?

[modest merlin]

The problem with the morning sound is that it only notifies you once.
If you miss it for any reason, you may forget.

The mail notification, for example, remains until you've checked your mail.

While also sometimes I have checked my plot, but I've forgotten if I have or not, so I run back to my garden to check, only to see that I had already done my garden that day.

[upbeat ginkgo]

So like a little plant or water droplet icon in the area where mail is shown? 🤔

Must be able to be toggled to not annoy those who use apple trees as decor 🤔

[honest scarab]

The raspberry beetle only spawns in the area around the Daiya farm. I usually only caught them during the day, but I think they can be found all day/night. If you're using a Buzzy Jar you can fan out a little to catch some Firebreathing Dragonflies or maybe even nab a Gossamer Veil Moth if at night (also one of my last to get star bugs). I'd do other activities around the farm too but always keeping my eye on the compass looking for a spawn in the direction of the farm. Of course camping out with snacks is a good idea too.

[pulsar niche]

Okay i know this is controversial but i need to like ask but does anyone else actually like tamala? Like not just find her attractive but likes her as a person? I do and ive seen a lot of people defending characters i really dont like over things i personally see as worse than most of tamalas actions (this isnt me bashing anyone for not liking her or liking other characters i dont i just swear i might be the only person who actively likes her rather than just standing her or finding her “hot”)

[native perch]

I like Tamala, because she's witchy and definitly 600 years old 😅 from the beginning I had my goal set to get her as shepp

[vagrant meadow]

I want Tamala as my shepp so she will teach me to be a witch, too.

[pulsar niche]

Shes legit katherine from the vampire diaries for me, i wouldve made her my shepp had i not gotten fixated on jel super early on lol

[turbid matrix]

A pallium node has a chance to spawn a pink bug every time it's mined, BUT is the pallium loot always the same? Like if someone gets a starstone, will everyone who mines get it?

[honest scarab]

I can't say I like or dislike Tamala, but I do find her story and the things she is connected with interesting. I also want many of the things in and around her house for my home lot, hers is one of the houses I like best. I don't question Tamala's behavior I question why S6 felt the need to put such an overtly sexual and manipulative character with big in your face boobs into their little cozy game.

[merry crater]

I feel like I’ve read that it’s supposed to be the same for everyone; but I’ve seen reports post patch that contradict that. Would def be easy to test, I think it would apply to all mined nodes. I’m not available to log in to try but I bet asking people on the in game server would net you someone willing to test it.

[honest scarab]

No. We now all get different loot from the same mined ore. It was changed with the recent palium revamp.

[turbid matrix]

good to know

[honest scarab]

I think it's a way to keep players from upping the drop rate of the starstones by calling out starred starstones to the server.

[pulsar niche]

I dont know how far you are with her friendship wise so if you havent like been in her room and read the books dont read this part lol but ||over the top sexuality and manipulation can be a trauma thing and i dont think its bad to have a character with those traits in a game like this since she shows a ton of growth and awareness once you get her high enough. She admits that she runs away from everything good because she doesnt trust it and that makes a ton of sense with her old spot in the order and her escape from them and finding ways to continue using flow to help others as well as herself, she really does directly parallel katherine from TVD running away from klaus in this way and a lot of the things shes done arent excusable but they are understandable in full context|| (i also do want to say this is still not me coming after anyone/anything i just think her story is really important and characters like these are the ones i get passionate about so im sorry if anything is coming off as aggressive)

[umbral relic]

If you mine the same node together yes. If you mine it seperately, no

plus, with the bugs, if you both mine the node (this means you both hit the stone at least once before it breaks) then you both get the bug too, even if only one of you try to capture it

[honest scarab]

Oh I didn't realize if two or more people hit together they will get the same loot. I guess that makes sense. Players coming later will get different loot from that same node.

[umbral relic]

Correct!

[umbral relic]

That part has always been true, im glad they kept that part after the update. For example, my gf and I both got a starred sapphire together just two nights ago

[honest scarab]

Yes, I know players historically got the same loot from the same mined node. I should have been more clear saying I didn't realize that this is still true post update, but also anyone who mines afterwards can get different loot.

[steep tangle]

They really need to make a way to tell if an ore node has already been mined already, I lost a palium node just because I was trying not to be selfish and waiting for other players to arrive, assuming it wasn’t mined yet

[gritty socket]

There's already a way to tell, though? The node will start shimmering and flashing

They pulse quicker the closer they are to despawning

[steep tangle]

Not way before that though

It only starts flashing within a few seconds of it despawning

[dense gale]

Lately I think the way most people have been going is to mine as you see it. People aren't really calling them out much anymore in the servers I've been in unless its a large node. See it, break it, call it out if you feel the need. But I don't think it's being selfish anymore. At least that's been my experience since the update.

[merry crater]

In my grind for starred star stones I had used a few ore compasses (specifically due to amethyst having bad rng for me); and I found there’s a lot more palium available than I realized.
It’s neat that people still call it out or flare it as they find it, but I def don’t feel bad if I mine a node and move on, knowing that there’s plenty out there for those who are searching (it can seem sparse at times though tbf depending on timing of respawns).

[fiery isle]

I wouldn't be surprised if it had similar issues as foraging node sounds. In theory, those stop when anyone picks it, but in practice if you're really far away when it happens or especially if you load into the map after they pick it, the sound keeps going and you'd think it's unpicked.

[dense gale]

Yeah there is definitely a lot more pal floating around post-update

[lyric night]

nodes despawn 3 mins after they were mined the first time by a player, 30s before they despawn the gloweffect starts, way too late, and I don't rly understand why its not directly

[merry crater]

I had assumed it was supposed to happen immediately - that the nodes would glow and then when they got close to despawn they’d start flashing.
Maybe something was done in error so it doesn’t work this way right now. Error or not I hope they update things so the nodes do glow at the start of the three minutes.

[chilly dome]

What is the blacked out one?

[vagrant star]

I hope we can get some kind of "has been taken/is close to despawn" effect for plants too, they don't seem to have one right now either...

[fiery isle]

||gold||

[chilly dome]

Ty

[noble linden]

loot close to ashura's fishing spot

[gritty socket]

I mean, they should... from the patch notes:

Forageable items will now also have a “despawn” glow effect after being foraged on other players’ screens.

[clever cove]

it does not blink for me

[vagrant star]

Oh, interesting, I didn't see that one yet. Recently had a heartdrop lily vanish without any blinking, and with no unusual glowing...

[clever cove]

the oysters I run to right before they despawn in front of my eyes didn't have the glow effect

[manic spade]

||a gold bar||

[cosmic scarab]

Hellooo!! I'm trying to finish my bundles right now and I have used 2 buzzy jars and spent hours looking for a rainbow tipped butterfly. I was wondering if anyone has a spare they'd be willing to trade? I will trade one of my jewelwing dragonfly's for it :,)

I also have a spitfire cicada if that interests anyone lol

[lyric night]

I have a few laying around, did u already catch one before? otherwise u can't request it

[cosmic scarab]

i have! I used it i guess :(

[lyric night]

then add me: TinyHydra

[cosmic scarab]

sent! I should already have an active request

Thank you so much do you want to request the dragon fly?

[lyric night]

u're welcome nah I'm fine, u can keep it

[cosmic scarab]

THANK YOU!! 💕💕

[west marlin]

Usually we're the problem children, how did this happen

[onyx lake]

i can’t find any starred emeralds either. im fully convinced they don’t exist… at least not for me anyway 😦

[west marlin]

We need to reclaim our title

[warm python]

Uhhhhh so how about them palcats and microtransactions!!!

[midnight oak]

I feel like my silly song parody was auto-modded, but I can't think of a word in it that triggered it

Wait... butterfly. No that's not it.

Rainbow-tipped. Not that either. Huh.

[warm python]

Too many letters in a row?

[midnight oak]

Ooooo could be.

[warm python]

There's an off server emote I can't even use because it has too many "aaa"s in a row as the keyword LOL

[dire coral]

I forgot what my result was when I last tested the repeat-character limit
Lemme try 10 8 of the same letter when the next cooldown hits

[ocean stone]

I'm sure some of us would be delighted for you to do so very Be my guest y'know

[dire coral]

Oooooooo

[ocean stone]

Ooooooooo

[west marlin]

[dire coral]

Oh damn it's 10 characters, hit bullseye

[vagrant star]

I just fished four times and found: 2X sashimi, 1X chest, and two fishes... Didn't even know you can get the recipe twice XD

[warm python]

Y'know after seven months I probably should have tested to see the exact letter limit LOL

Though my problem is I do it a ton by just instinct so I don't realize until I see the message bonked

[ocean stone]

Yep if you don't consume (learn) the recipe, you can keep fishing it up infinitely

[dire coral]

at least now you know how to circumvent the automod
Well now you know jic how to follow the rules exactly

[vagrant star]

What happens if I comsume both?

[ocean stone]

I think the other one will disappear once you use up the first one

[clever cove]

forbidden double sashimi knowledge

[warm python]

mmmm the more sashimi the better

[vagrant star]

It didn't. I guess keeping it is worth the inventory spot XD

[clever cove]

what do you guys do with your oyster meat? I've been shucking 300 oysters for this pebble and I don't know what to do with 300 oyster meat is there any good food with them other than grilled oysters

oyster akwinduu takes heat root which i don't have a lot of either

[wraith notch]

i put non starred meat into the glow worm farm for a while lol

[clever cove]

good idea actually...

[ocean stone]

Yeah a great use for them is to feed them wormies and make them happy

[clever cove]

what if oysters face mass extinction in the future i suppose I'll save 100

[ocean stone]

Never know when the cylinder may strike!

[haughty swift]

Finally got my first ever Zeki plushie today 😄 ❤️

[vagrant star]

I grill them, then throw them in the worm farm...
If you need heat root, I should have a few if you want to request them.

[clever cove]

noo i don't want to burn 300 heat root just to use them ty though!

[clever cove]

you got one of the cutest!

[vagrant star]

True, the mushroom plushie is really nice!

[haughty swift]

Yeahhh I'm soo happy ❤️

[frank mist]

I’m dying to get cute plushies from Zekis machine 😭

[vagrant star]

They're really rare unfortunately...

[frank mist]

Sooo rare 🙃

I just submitted feedback for this but I am also dying for the ability to meal prep. The way cooking is done in this game is fun but sometimes u rly just need the stupid food asap lol

[vagrant star]

One option would be to make star dishes and stack them on your plot...Doesn't take inventory, and you can always pick them up and eat them when you need it...

[clever cove]

finn's 50 petit fives are waiting

[vagrant star]

Haha true XD

[clever cove]

the fast food option would be from reth's register but that does take gold

[frank mist]

I try to mass cook/cook ahead of time but the cooking UI is honestly so bad

[clever cove]

i get stuck on my own counters a lot no amount of Hs have saved me since the patch

[frank mist]

Reth should have higher quality items/restore more focus. Especially with how much focus things take up. I know it isn’t supposed to be easy peasy but it seems a little unbalanced, the focus-eating ratio.

[umbral relic]

I have a few spare rainbow butterflies. 2 I think

[frank mist]

Plus. Irl ppl meal prep. No reason I shouldn’t be able to pull out pre chopped veggies and meats and just throw it on the stove!

[clever cove]

very true! it'll be a nice option to have

[lofty coral]

I buy 30 of reths bouillabaisse and use them to keep my focus up. They last forever

[proven veldt]

this is the way

[ocean stone]

[clever cove]

In the end you start with soup, you end with soup

[formal coral]

Does anyone know if we'll be able to integrate our current accounts with the steam accounts? Or will the steam version still launch into the login screen?

[uneven pebble]

They currently have not stated anything regarding that, sorry.

[analog zenith]

They did a linking thing with Switch/Nintendo so it's probably safe to assume Steam will have something similar

[formal coral]

I hope so cause I don't want to lose all my progress but I'd rather play through steam because it's easier for me lol. thank you for answering!

[wraith notch]

Everything is linked to your palia account, so as long as you link upon entering the steam version it will connect just like switch does

[dense gale]

So uh is anyone noticing anything wonky tonight? Just logged on for the first time today and went to my workbench to craft some stuff anddddd only my homestead recipes are showing….and showing and showing. It repeats like 5 times and nothing else is there 🥴

[cedar river]

Hmm... do you have other recipes?

You have to buy something at tish or the shop... than you can craft it and get the others by inspiration

[dense gale]

Oh yes I have an embarrassing amount of hours playing worth of things to craft 😂 entire furniture collections and tools are suddenly missing from my list

[cedar river]

Oo ok thats strange

I'll log in and have a look

Do you play on switch or pc?

[dense gale]

Switch

[cedar river]

Me too.. one moment...

[cedar river]

No... everything is fine here

[cedar river]

Do you want to come over and try it at my bench?

[dense gale]

Nah it’s not that big of a deal. I keep getting kicked outta the game so I’m just gonna go put it down for the night and let it sort itself out 😂 thank you though!

[cedar river]

🙂

[regal zenith]

Hey devs, if you're listening, can we get a search bar for our chests? lol

[cedar river]

lol... would be great. But I think you have to give feedback on the homepage

[opal cypress]

Oh hai there!
If you seek Player Support, you need only answer these riddles three...

Wait, actually, you just need to click this link.
http://support.palia.com/

And you can then submit a ticket to our sparkly, mesmerizing PS portal, which is open Monday - Sunday, 9am-5pm PST. Operators are standing by!

[cedar river]

That's it xD

[wraith notch]

!feedback

[opal cypress]

Feedback & Suggestions

Looking for where to share your game feedback & suggestions for Palia?

• To share feedback directly with the team: https://palia.info/feedback
• To discuss feedback with other players: #🦋│issues-discussions
• To read the latest Dev Updates: https://palia.com/news
• For bug reports, contact: https://support.palia.com

[wraith notch]

feedback page not support please

[lime granite]

i did the wrong command but you can also get to feedback thru the support link.

[cedar river]

No... that's it

[lime granite]

when you click "submit a request" feedback is also there on the options.

[wraith notch]

True, just don't want to confuse people into accidentally choosing the wrong option on the page

[lime granite]

i'll just delete my messages

[wraith notch]

Oh I didn't mean to make you feel like it was a big deal or anything either

Just making sure it's clear language is all

[lime granite]

i think it's the thumbs up. i'm autistic, can't tell tone, and they feel passive aggressive but i trust it wasn't meant that way.

[wraith notch]

As a mod I wish to do my best not to be rude or sarcastic I promise that

[lime granite]

you're a good mod

[wraith notch]

[cosmic scarab]

is there a villager that sells coral?

[clever cove]

sadly no, you'll have to run around the beaches in bahari bay

[lime granite]

i don't think so, not that i've noticed. i just pick it up at the bahari beaches

[wraith notch]

just double checked Ashura, as it would fall under forage if so, but he does not haha

[cosmic scarab]

mandela affect then, i for some reason thought someone did!

[wraith notch]

spoooooky

[lime granite]

i need a sticker of a chapaa floating in the twilight zone or something

[wraith notch]

this but in the void

[lime granite]

insert void here

[west marlin]

6

[warm python]

6?

[ocean stone]

?

[warm python]

dun dun dun

[ocean stone]

Oh NO I walked right into it

[warm python]

[ocean stone]

[warm python]

[west marlin]

[warm python]

[west marlin]

No idea why that got sent or when or how...

[ocean stone]

[steep tangle]

Why do my food items sometimes not want to stack after I make more of it, even though it is the exact same? I made more starred fish stew and it will not stack with the starred fish stew that was already in my inventory, and for some reason the fish stew in my inventory already is worth less

[fiery mango]

food items' value is based on the ingredients used when making it

[steep tangle]

I used the exact same ingredients as the first time

[fiery mango]

I believe what you're describing is cause only food items of the same qualiy and value will stack

I've heard that the time it takes to prepare each ingredients impacts it too

[steep tangle]

Oh well, it’s taking up more room in my inventory than it should, I’m bringing it for a fishing trip

[clever cove]

with fish dishes in particular, every time you make it, it may use a different fish and that causes the value to swing wildly

[steep tangle]

Makes sense, I must’ve run out of my usual fish for cooking and it switched to a different one

[clever cove]

yeah, fish dishes are notorious for that i have so many sashimi/fish stews that won't stack cuz they all used different fish

[steep tangle]

Tbh I was thinking there was a heat system for food and it got cold lol

And that’s why it was worth less

[west marlin]

Ha that's funny

[pulsar niche]

Omgomgomg gushing for a sec (spoilered since its related to the pavel family portrait found item quest)
||THE LETTER THAT HODARI SENDS AFTER YOU GIVE HIM THE PORTRAIT???? IM SO EXCITED WHAT IF WE GET A PORTRAIT OF THEM IN THE FUTURE||

[gritty socket]

The what found item quest? Was that added this patch?

I thought I knew about all of those...

[woeful garnet]

My cup [and chests] overflows.
When do we get the Palium chest upgrade?
I'm sure that's on the drawing board, right?
Right!? 🤔

[flint igloo]

If you have starred food just sitting around in storage (anything starred including gems), try placing that around your plot to free up space.

[woeful garnet]

I have a lot that I'm using to warehouse everything starred. It probably adds up to more than the maximum gold allowance.
I still want a Palium storage chest upgrade. My inner hoarder demands it.

[flint igloo]

I have a plot that houses all my extra furniture and starred stuff. I call in my Rummage Sale plot

[fiery sphinx]

I want Palium chests just so I have something to do with all the Palium I'm hoarding.

[vivid oar]

This is getting out of hand -.-

[lofty mulch]

Time to start

[coral blaze]

where are the login rewards supposed to appear?

[tranquil hinge]

I could be wrong, but it seems like they made it so cooking oil is now being used instead of soy in some of the recipes? I think it happened overnight?

[languid nymph]

In the News tab (idk how it looks on pc, but on Switch it's when you press + and there's one Icon that looks like a newspaper)

You only get one per week btw

[runic eagle]

I noticed with the patch before last that if I ran out of oil, soy sauce was substituted for it, and how I noticed was my chili oil dumplings were not stacking together in my hotbar so I went back to look. Then needed to run back to the Market to replenish my soy sauce before it left

[tranquil hinge]

I see. Weird, but I see haha!
I had no cooking oil prior to this morning, so it showed Soy, went and got some cooking oil, so now it shows that it needs cooking oil. Maybe the end value is different depending on whether you cook with cooking oil or soy, but at least the focus seems to be the same.

[runic eagle]

Yeah it's still the same amount of focus, mhm. I was just like why aren't these stacking? They are using the same veggies I have 🤔
So I went back in to make some more to look and it was using up all my soy I had bought with tickets

[gritty socket]

It's probably not intended to be able to sub cooking oil for soy sauce and vice versa... but it makes it possible to make the LNY dishes while we wait for Soy Sauce to be added proper, so hey

[tranquil hinge]

My thought exactly.

[runic eagle]

Very true! But keep an eye on your oil or it will use the soy instead like it did me

[west marlin]

I HATE THESE THINGS

S6 needs to tweek the odds in those things, theres clearly something wrong when so many poeople have this experience lol

[dire coral]

The RNG calls for you to start a restaurant

[scarlet hazel]

The discord seems a lot more quieter and less active

[wraith notch]

I'd chalk it up to timezones and statistics of people's schedules vs time to chat on discord

ah yeah, in a large portion of the US, at the moment it's very early in the morning so it'll probably be more active a bit later

[lime granite]

Definitely. I've seen normal activity lvls. Plus it always comes and goes in waves. Sometimes weekends are slower cause people are out doing Adult Sidequests like going to the store or doing chores

[frozen falcon]

Oh it's usually like this over weekends, also depending on what channel etc 😄 And for sure timezones have to do with it If anything I feel like the server is quite active lately haha

[dense quarry]

ppl sleeping in as well!!

[frozen falcon]

Pesky adult sidequests, who even wants to spend time doing house chores?!

[lime granite]

It's rude of the house to need chores when our virtual gardens need watered, weeded and harvested. We gave flow to farm, planks to make, ore to acquire, preserves to make, wormies to feed.

[frozen falcon]

exactly!

[lime granite]

Palia houses don't leave dirty dishes to wash

[wraith notch]

my palia house has authenticity

a pile of dishes by the sink, just like in real life

[cinder temple]

Bless this mess.

[wraith notch]

I NEED A SIGN FOR THAT IN THE GAME LOL

we need signs that you can customize from a set of options

[lime granite]

Ooo what sink is that I love it

[wraith notch]

https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Ranch_House_Sink#Classic-0

[lime granite]

Oh gosh now I gotta make it and see how it looks in my kitchen!

[weak wigeon]

Do you guys think outfits should have a "show/hide bag" option? (i do)

[fiery isle]

!feedback
I think it's a popular opinion - worth spamming feedback with it a little IMO

[opal cypress]

Feedback & Suggestions

Looking for where to share your game feedback & suggestions for Palia?

• To share feedback directly with the team: https://palia.info/feedback
• To discuss feedback with other players: #🦋│issues-discussions
• To read the latest Dev Updates: https://palia.com/news
• For bug reports, contact: https://support.palia.com

[weak wigeon]

oh i already did a couple times!

[modest merlin]

10 Mil

[wraith notch]

but did the renown earned go into the void

[modest merlin]

no

I haven't renowned capped since they gave us all those new things to buy with renown.

But I'd already lost probably a couple thousands to the void before that.

[wraith notch]

oh lord

i capped renown right before they gave us more to spend it on because i purposefully didn't complete achievements as much as possible LOL

then i spent it all, now im capped again

[calm fiber]

The hunt for silk is ridiculous

[midnight oak]

If you have a lot of monies, you can buy silk at Tish's register.

[calm fiber]

Alas, I am broke. I was just able to upgrade my backpack and it took all my monies

[modest merlin]

I have like 300 silk, and I don't even try to collect it.

[midnight oak]

Theo you're too strong as a player xD Can't compare your stockpile to us lowly peons.

[lyric night]

but that would be waste of money

[calm fiber]

How?? I'm spending most my time in Bahari hitting iron hoping a bug appears.

[midnight oak]

Is it a waste when there's a gold cap? 🤷‍♀️

[lyric night]

u are losing 440 gold per silk if u buy them, so yeah I guess so?

[modest merlin]

All the bug catching I do now is just enough to complete the weeklys

[scarlet hazel]

440 gold per silk is a waste of gold in gen. im not paying that much for a single piece of silk 💀

[midnight oak]

I mean, fair point, but also, it's a matter of convenience xD If you have the money, but don't wanna spend time chasing bugs, it's an option.

[calm fiber]

Ah I'm still new. I'm just trying to complete this quest and make the investigator furniture 😂

[modest merlin]

There was at one point a time where I went hard on bug catching in order to collect all the bugs. I think I probably peaked at 700 silk thread in storage.

Here's an old image. Right after completing the accomplishment. I had 771 Silk thread

#🍧│palia-chill message

[wraith notch]

i bought all the silk for the investigator furniture quest lol

[calm fiber]

If I had the coin I probably would

[lyric night]

yeah if u use it for crafting of course why not, was mainly thinking about the very old method of storing money with silk which is not possible anymore

[midnight oak]

True, true. You're right, that'd be a waste xD

[hexed cloak]

My silk doesn't pile up because it's a fairly often requested item

I try to fulfill all requests for items I have

[hexed cloak]

Duuuuude how much time do you spend catching bugs?

[wraith notch]

this is more like
how much time do you spend not using silk lol

[hexed cloak]

Me: 100% of the time (except for requests)

[wraith notch]

ive been making a lot of emberborn stools and that takes all my silk
and flow wood
and palium lol

[hexed cloak]

If you ever feel useless remember there's a recipe for 60 repair kits that uses flow planks and palium

[wraith notch]

lol

[hexed cloak]

It would've made more sense if it went 20 40 80

[hexed cloak]

I mean, who am I to say this. I waste dari cloves on hearty vegetable soup.

[west marlin]

as someone who has playerd since closed beta, the current gold rate is so painful lol no respect for my time = no time for the game

[scarlet hazel]

yeah. i wish theyd add in an actual good way to get gold and remove the gold cap. i get it, slowing progress. but its not fun being artificially slowed down just because content isnt being able to be pushed out constantly or smth

[west marlin]

grinding the resources is time consuming enough 🥺

[scarlet hazel]

esp flow wood and pallium. kudos for others who can get 100+ easy, but some of us just can't do that or are not lucky at all. and the request system is lame cause it feels so limited. we should be able to set the amount we ask for and the amount we give, and the request time should be set as well so it can be done while someone is offline

[wraith notch]

simply become worm gods and rule over worms with an iron fist

[scarlet hazel]

like, id love to be able to set things up to be afk while im gone like in so many mmos

[west marlin]

artificial extention of the game time through grind is maybe my least favorite game feature

[scarlet hazel]

it should be considered criminal. it sucks out all the fun in a game when things are arifically extended and there arent other actually fun activities to do while waiting

[cinder comet]

I’m weird and into grindy games

Cries in shiny hunting

[scarlet hazel]

i dont mind grindy games, but when its artifically slowed down and all, is where i have an issue

[west marlin]

life is too short i spent 10 mintes looking for stone today and closed the game and went to do something proudctive lol

[cinder comet]

I have a run in KV I do and when I’m done I’m swimming in stone if you ever want to see a map of it lol

I usually come home with a ton of copper and a decent amount of quartz too

[west marlin]

oh sure! I went to draw :3c but ill take it for next time i have like 5 buildings that need stone lol

[cinder comet]

I’ll be home in a bit and I’ll tag you in it haha.

[west marlin]

thanks!

[frozen falcon]

Same! Grindy games can make me feel at peace haha

[wraith notch]

Oh right the can you or can you not see your watering can info when watering
I've had this discussion before, it's just that it is hit or miss whether it displays it or not sometimes you see it sometimes you don't
at least from what i can tell

[dim shale]

Interesting! When I'm playing (on PC), the entire HUD disappears, including the watering can at the bottom right. Might be a matter of different platforms.

[vagrant star]

I keep getting that one, too, especially when many are around. Am on Switch though.

[dim shale]

@arctic coral (Subira level 4 friendship reward spoilers)

when i saw the icon for it, i was excited thinking it would be like those ||old lamps with the lightning inside||, but alas it is stationary. still looks dope, though

[frozen falcon]

oooh I love how that looks

[arctic coral]

OOH SO PRETTY! i wanna try get this now lol, tysm for sharing

[vagrant star]

Those ||lamps with lightning inside|| really were fun. Could still be Palia's version of those.

[dim shale]

i love it too, i just wish it was animated a little bit

[frozen falcon]

I see what you mean as well, I used to have stuff like that, loved ||disco ||stuff haha

[vagrant star]

!feedback (or whatever the command was...)?

[opal cypress]

Feedback & Suggestions

Looking for where to share your game feedback & suggestions for Palia?

• To share feedback directly with the team: https://palia.info/feedback
• To discuss feedback with other players: #🦋│issues-discussions
• To read the latest Dev Updates: https://palia.com/news
• For bug reports, contact: https://support.palia.com

[lavish estuary]

i keep forgetting shes even in the game, does. does she stay in her room all the time? cus ive never seen her around town. i think ive talked to her once maybe

[dim shale]

i might include it as a footnote the next time i submit feedback begging them to make chayne romanceable

[dim shale]

god i KNOW, i wish she would start to actually walk around town. idk if she's just never going to have a schedule or if they just haven't finished it yet

[vagrant star]

Sounds like a good plan! I'll send a note, too, when I have a moment of time.

[lavish estuary]

OH SO SHE IS JUST CHILLIJG IN HER ROOM i thought i was hoijg insane

[dim shale]

YEP she's still just in her room, 24/7, never leaves

[lavish estuary]

she just like me fr

[ornate cairn]

Jshzjzhddkdhdkdhdjdb

[modern rock]

well, she does leave but only if it's scripted for a quest. it always feels weird seeing her outside

[ornate cairn]

Being outside is not Subira's natural habitat

[lavish estuary]

i mean id be shy too if i just moved to a new place, especilly a tiny village,, all those close communities,,, ough

[steep tangle]

I can find 2 starred ancient amber beetles back to back, but I cannot find even one epic fish? Is there something wrong I am doing for fishing?

[clever cove]

No, just a lot of patience. I like to dissociate LOL

[steep tangle]

I am guessing there are no epic fish to be caught at all with regular worms, and they are all glow worm fish?

[lyric night]

correct, all epic fish are with glowworms

[steep tangle]

That sucks, glow worms are so hard to get

[lyric night]

would recommend to invest in some glowworm farms and filling them up with mountain morels that u can buy in the gen store, a very easy source for glowworms

[steep tangle]

Morels are pretty common, you sure they give a lot of worms?

[lyric night]

no only one but u don't need to do something for them + u get 2 times their worth they cost 15g and fert + worm will grant something around 45g, the max amount is 4 for star quality celeb cakes

[clever cove]

It's because they're common that it's easier to gather glowworms with them I think

[wraith notch]

i also used non starred meat for a while once i had like way too much of it

[lyric night]

mainly bcs u can buy them easily in bulks

[clever cove]

I use jam for speedygrow fert

[steep tangle]

Alright, I was kinda assuming that it may be for the sheer amount you would put in, thank you for your help!

[lyric night]

thats what I'm doing atm as well the conversation reminded me that I'm running low on glowworms

[steep tangle]

I assume starred morels will just give more fertilizer? Is it worth it

[clever cove]

A bit more yeah, it's a pain to gather though since you can't buy star quality

[steep tangle]

Yeah, just asking since I had a few already

[clever cove]

I personally keep mine for recipes just in case, but if I had too many id consider it!

[steep tangle]

So one morel will give 1 worm, and you can get dozens of them super easily, so that means dozens of glow worms, makes perfect sense, thank you

[clever cove]

yup, I personally use jam though since you can only get speedygrow fert with sweet stuff, and I dump all of it on my garden to grow my veggies faster

[little elbow]

Random thought for the devs to incentive buying Palia coins but I'd love flares that emits a heart symbol. To keep it in the " skins" are the monetary way they make money.

[stark galleon]

look what i found

they are all over bahari bay

[stark galleon]

what are they?

[wraith notch]

a haha funny bug of this (update) month, excited for next month's :P

[outer atlas]

its a bug
its a placeholder for a spawn point for shells and whatnot
we arent suppose to see it hehe

[stark galleon]

ah lol

[arctic coral]

@opaque jungle Solar we all dressed up as you!! (bald)

[ocean stone]

Balding in BALDHARI

[opaque jungle]

Oh no, you made everyone join in

[lime granite]

baldhari indeed

[arctic coral]

😭 LMAO so... when ya gonna install palia? surely this is enough convincing

[lime granite]

bahrain baldhari baldies

[fallow saffron]

[lime granite]

[opaque jungle]

no comment

[arctic coral]

plsplsl

[little elbow]

Or even our tools!!! I'd love a glowing tool!

[ocean stone]

just an ordinary day in bahari

[arctic coral]

Did you make sure theres no blacklisted words?

[wraith notch]

Hello, MaraWinterhyde, if you did not see the message sent your way on this matter, it is due to @ ing everyone being posted. This is auto removed by automod.

[west marlin]

You also can't swear in posts that will get them deleted and circumventing the filter is usually not allowed either

[inland karma]

I get your frustration. While it sucks that you can’t post another one for six hours at least you know now what was triggering it to automatically disappear.

It is a good thing the at ing everyone is blocked/automodded cause so many people would be using it and there’s a lot that would get pinged on a simple thing.

Hope you can wind down and relax soon. I know how stress can be. 💜

[long acorn]

I am sure this has been asked so many times before, will accounts switch to steam easily or no?

[inland karma]

I’m sure it will be like the pc and switch but there is no definite answer right now I do believe. I could be wrong.

[lyric night]

will still be crossplay and cross progression, mel mentioned when they announced it that we will be able to link our palia accs to steam once the game is on steam

[wraith notch]

cross play and cross progression will always be the case

[long acorn]

So excited honestly thanks!

[remote latch]

I wonder if the steam release will coincide with our next patch ? Last patch was 1st March .. 24 days is almost a month .. right ? right ?

[ocean stone]

Yeah it seems like the patches have slowed down some -- maybe once they've got it on all the platforms that they are releasing too, and things are stabilized (re: servers and all the different patch requirements per platform), ....hopefully it'll return to the previous patch pacing

[gritty socket]

I mean, month-long waits for updates are fine IMO; but I was hoping we'd still see the occasional hotfix

(I'm sure S6 was also hoping to be able to put out hotfixes, tbf)

[worn snow]

im surprised nintendo wont let them do that? if thats rly the reason it seems kinda silly that nintendo doesnt want that honestly. having a whole mob type gone for a month seems like a bad look

[west marlin]

The eshop release process is a hassle, that's probably what takes the longest

[worn snow]

in what way is it a hassle? is it paperwork or getting approved or what? just curious cos i have no idea about this stuff

[cosmic scarab]

I have a dumb question. if you have a full cake party, how many of each station do you need...

[hearty flint]

question is this for an itme or quest? i cant interact w/ it

[vagrant star]

Up to 2 of each type. One to start, and up to one of each to do stuff.

[cosmic scarab]

i mean like. how many mixing, prep, and ovens do i need

[vagrant star]

To abe able to do anything, two of each.

[dim lantern]

the chats and servers disconnecting is driving me nuts

[sharp drum]

Having some hints/post of what upcoming in the next patch would be so nice. I'm looking forward to it but I wanna know what I'm looking forward to

[vagrant star]

What's up with random people sending dms asking me to answer their questions about Palia? Or asking to call to ask questions?? I'm used to some random ones, but did anyone else get very many of those recently?

[wraith notch]

feel free to drop a modmail with screenshots if you ever feel uncomfortable, we also would like to make sure there isn't bots or someone trying to take advantage of members or something <3 user safety and all that

[vagrant star]

I will if it ever gets too weird, don't worry :-)
Thanks though!
So far, it's just been "hey can you answer random newbie questions" as far as I can tell.

[wraith notch]

glad to hear it <3

[vagrant star]

I was just wondering if I'm the only one who went from 4 in three months to 3-5 a day XD

[clever cove]

it's each time you update a game, you have to wait for a nintendo QA team to manually go through your game and approve it (certification)

The issue is that theres tens of thousands of games being submitted and updated on switch that this team has to go through to make sure nothing malicious or bad for their company is in it, so that process takes a long long time

The actual "what is nintendo doing to certify these games" isn't explicitly revealed, but its a well-known fact that nintendo's certification process is abysmally long for any game developers, but has such a huge name and share of the game market that the benefit of having your game on switch and accessible to a large audience outweighs the cons of the approval process

[west marlin]

When I was working on it they had a lot of their own automated tests that every build had to pass, and what was so annoying was you didn't get the tests yourself to build into your own QA pipeline, so it's kinda like playing wackamole with issues they report in your build

Note this was a few years ago I hope the process has improved

[vagrant star]

I heard there's at least some list of "well these things automatically fail", like using the wrong logos, or having more than x crashes per hour, or so... Kind of like, you have a list of criteria, you just have to test yourself and our tests might work differently from yours... Not sure it covers everything though.

[frozen dragon]

Tau pls come down

[ocean stone]

Tau pls

[outer atlas]

No tau
Be free!

[cinder temple]

There he is. The dog of wisdom.

[midnight oak]

Hover Tau of the sky, what is your wisdom?

[ocean stone]

I see fields of cheese
chapaa boneses, too
I see some disco deer, for me and for you
What a wonderful world

[olive carbon]

That is a good wisdom

[ocean stone]

Tau is, after all, the goodest of bois

[manic spade]

I need to make sushi for fishing buffs... does anyone wanna join me?

[flint igloo]

I want to eat sushi. Does that count?

[frosty yarrow]

Pika. I need to make Sushi~!! and I have all star mats!

[celest flax]

Try @manic spade @frosty yarrow

[fickle torrent]

Is it true that you have to start all over when to play on Steam?

[celest flax]

Not that I've heard of

[tranquil nest]

As long as you have your account and login info, you should be able to sign into Palia from anywhere

[celest flax]

Also people have paid real money in this game so doubt any reset @fickle torrent

[fickle torrent]

Good. I heard someone on Twitch say that we have to start over, glad that’s not true 🙂

[celest flax]

@fickle torrent It would turn people away from game if they did

[odd lotus]

the items i got recently from rummage piles (zeki coins) in the past 2 days. the rummage technique is OP.

[willow sage]

What's the rummage technique?

[odd lotus]

from a post i made in #💬│palia-general

fill your inventory with furniture/wallpapers/flooring and nothing else until you have the inventory full warning, then go to a rummage pile, logoff/logon, you should eventually be able to loot the rummage pile. every time you join a new server, the game rolls what type of object you can loot from the pile. if it's junk items (rocks, wheat, worms, wood, etc.) since your inv is full, it won't let you pick it up. if you relog and it rolls an item that isn't an inventory object (quest item, recipe), it will let you loot the pile.

[scarlet hazel]

tbh the fact that this is needed just to get lucky and get an item thats actually wanted from the rummage piles kind of stinks

[celest flax]

So a form of cheating?

on a free game lol

[coral coral]

That was nice while it lasted? 😅

[scarlet hazel]

yeah. everyone and their mom is gonna do this prob. s6 takes notice and nerfs it cause "NO FUN ALLOWED!" or "time for more artifical slowing!"

[coral coral]

Notice already taken, I'm sure

[celest flax]

I'm gobbed smacked, why would people cheat on a free game?

[coral coral]

It's not a great mechanic

[scarlet hazel]

idk why we cant just buy the recipes from tish and the lore can be she made these designs for fun and to make something on a lower scale. like let it be interesting instead "oh you just found this item digging through a random chapaa pile/ship wreck"

[coral coral]

Because they want us to log on every day for the active player count/time numbers

[lyric night]

its not a cheat, its how their game system works

[scarlet hazel]

and for them to log off til tomorrow and then never again til new content cause its only temp numbers :

[celest flax]

It may not be a cheat taking advantage of Beta issues to me is

[odd lotus]

to bypass the gatcha mechanic ig, some people just wanna decorate

there's no competition in the game so i personally dont find it harmful

i understand why the devs would patch it out somehow

an easy fix would be to just make it so that you loot a box out of the rummage and then you would have to open that in your inventory, like how waterlogged chests work

[celest flax]

I understand @odd lotus but this not helpful unless it's forwarwd on to Devs..

[odd lotus]

I've discussed it with a mod earlier

They're aware of it + quite a few Palia Partners know about it now. I'm not the one to have discovered the tech.

In the end it's up to the devs to fix or not fix it

[celest flax]

Probably better to remove that post bud

[odd lotus]

Will do that if I'm approached by a mod/dev 🫡

[waxen spear]

Have they fixed the Kitsuu loot to once per day?

I wonder why I've only recieved one loot today then, even though I've played several in game days already...

[bright ledge]

Oh? 👀 maybe it is fixed
I didn't believe they did bc they left it so long

[waxen spear]

I'll stay away from my housing plot until next day now, and check again

[bright ledge]

I cant do fish bundles so dont have it

[waxen spear]

Phew, its back!

[lyric night]

u need to reenter ur the housing plot for it if u stay on it the whole time the kitsuu won't spawn

[waxen spear]

I did re-enter the plot, but maybe I was there when it should have spawned or something? Or just a random hiccup today

[dense gale]

I’ve had a lottttt of random hiccups on my housing plot the last 3 days

[hexed cloak]

Poor guy

[spare skiff]

A single blueberry and a single potato from my piles today
Can't wait to see what the zeki coin gives me

[weary void]

Yesterday I got 5 stone from each pile and Zeki was kind enough to gift me carrot seeds again.

[spare skiff]

So kind of him

[lavish ferry]

How many times did you have to log off/on? I feel like that takes a lot of time

[wraith notch]

That would probably depend on how many recipes you've already gotten

[lavish ferry]

I think I’m missing a few in Kilima, and I got 2 in Bahari

[wraith notch]

i absolutely need that rilakkuma emote

[lavish ferry]

Hehe I got it from Etsy, it’s animated too!

[wraith notch]

let me show you something in #💬│off-topic-chat hang on i want to take a picture lol

#💬│off-topic-chat message there it is

[spare skiff]

3 Vinegar
Thanks, Zek

[weary void]

At least that’s better than seeds.

[spare skiff]

Yeah, 600 gold value so i can't complain too much, but
sighs

[weary void]

I know you’d much rather have a plushie.

[spare skiff]

Plshie or those wall knives for my kitchen

[weary void]

I have two sets of the wall knives. I’d gift you one if I could.

[real rapids]

Little icons in the storage could make it easier to find wallpapers, floor and roofs. what do you guys think?

[weary void]

It would be nice if the furniture was arranged by set, or by what it was. Like all chairs. I think it should be separated from the other inventory altogether. But I am not a game designer. So I don’t know if that makes too much more work, or not.

[wraith notch]

True , at the moment I reccomend putting them in lockbox it really helps :)

[polar elbow]

tbh the fact that people feel the need to resort to something like this to begin with just highlights how crappy the non-recipe/quest item rewards actually are (and also how crappy the rates are)

Considering it's, what, once per IRL day? Surely it wouldn't hurt to eliminate some of the crappier rewards from the pool entirely, if they're going to make a daily gacha system as a player retention tactic the least they could do is make even the "bad" rewards at least passably useful
as in, get rid of everything that someone could find and obtain within one minute of starting a search for said item

[lime granite]

I'd love to be able to sort my inventory by type, same with the workbench. i don't wanna have to go thru every single item just to find lights. especially when you've almost gotten every single item of every single set "discovered/inspired"

[uneven pebble]

I wouldn't be surprised if that's up there in the top five requested features.

[dire river]

Can I put 8 regular storage boxes and 8 copper storage boxes on my plot to get extra storage space, or does it not work like that?

[spare skiff]

No, there can only be 8 total boxes
And you need each previous one to make the next one up
Max storage is 10k

[dire river]

Ahwe

[bleak merlin]

you can... idk how on pc but i can on switch

[lime granite]

My switch doesn't let me nor does my pc

Heck it won't even reverse alpha correctly or correctly display "never crafted" 95% of the time

[dense topaz]

no we can't, we can sort by bug, fish, consumables, etc... but they are talking about a more specific sort, like expecially with the furniture section

[bleak merlin]

oh got it

[dense topaz]

Nop, 8 general storage boxes (so, normal, coper, iron) and 3 Lockboxes

the general boxes are 8 in total, it doesn't matter the type it is

[dire river]

Wait, I haven't seen the iron boxes yet? Do I need carpenting skills for that or am I just blind as a mole ahha

[dense topaz]

you buy the recipe from the tish register

[viscid halo]

Hello, can the photos taken in games be found in a folder on our PC?

[fiery isle]

Your Palia photos/screenshots are under %localappdata%/Palia/Saved/Screenshots

[viscid halo]

Ah thank you ^^

[manic spade]

Anyone need sushi?

[weary void]

It would be nice if it was 50k. I’ve been trying to get a giant kilima stingray and have fished so many enchanted pupfish that I keep selling. Before I couldn’t get the enchanted pupfish at all. Now it’s the stingray. 🙄

[manic spade]

I FEEL YOU

[weary void]

I hate the rare/epic bugs/fish.

[manic spade]

don't get me started with the rainbow butterfly, unicorn fishes and ancient fish...

[scarlet hazel]

yeah thats another issue. the storage is WAY too small and the way items stack is also way too small. why cant it be 999 items and one stack doesnt contribute to the weight in the storage

[manic spade]

THE FREAKING HOOKS DRIVE ME CRAZY, takes a whole slot for one fishing hook

[weary void]

Took me 5 real weeks to get the unicorn. It’s been over week trying for the giant Kilima stingray.

[clever cove]

i really wish the hooks would stack in my inventory

[manic spade]

ive been trying on and off for the unicorn for months now...

[spare skiff]

The same type of hooks stack in storage, just like the same type of furniture item stacks

[scarlet hazel]

i cant deal with this games rng 😭 it shouldnt even be this annoying when the game i suppose to be cozy and nice, but rng is the complete opposite of that.

[clever cove]

sadly not in my bag

[manic spade]

why can't it stack in my backpack???

[spare skiff]

it makes sense that it wouldn't stack in the bag, since they have individual health bars

[weary void]

I hate that fish only stack to 5, in my backpack so I constantly have to empty it because I’m carrying all these fishing rod buffs that break too fast and all the food for buffs.

[clever cove]

why not arrange a 30min/1 hour fishing party for unicorn fish suffer in unity + have fishing bite rate bonus

[sharp drum]

My last weeks rng piles and coin have been really disappointing 😞

[weary void]

It’s ridiculous that each item is counted in the inventory instead of each stack.

[spare skiff]

ehhhhhh

[frozen falcon]

Hmmm do people perhaps hoard a bit much?

[scarlet hazel]

fr. like man... do what WoW does and make items stack to 1k now. and hoarding in this game is encouraged when villagers ask for rare as heck items in their weekly wants ometimes

[clever cove]

flow can only do so much in palia I suppose

[polar elbow]

I feel like this game is using obscene RNG + grind as a crutch to pad its playtime/metrics tbh

[weary void]

I have had 5 people fishing near me. I’ve had the buffs and still zero giant Kilima stingray. Not even Einar will support me. 😭

[hidden trail]

They say "play the way you wanna play" and some of us like to be prepared for new content or new projects or cooking parties, some just like to hoard

[scarlet hazel]

with how much they keep trying to artifically bloat playtime and player count, etc... it makes you wonder if they know the game has big issues but keep trying to ignore it for rn

[clever cove]

buff isn't a guaranteed fish I mean, but it does make things go faster

[weary void]

I would love for a quality of life adjustment to the rare/epic things so I don’t have to keep searching for one item. I want my little silverwing. 🥺

[frozen falcon]

Well that was my point, I think if many players hoard a lot or just feel like there is not enough storage space, surely they'll add more eventually :D. From my non hoarding playstyle I feel like I would never run out of space, but that's just personal experience

[weary void]

If I don’t use the buffs I can’t reel a lot of the fish in.

[clever cove]

oh i mean the fishing bonus with other players buff i too cannot survive without fisherman brew/sashimi/fish stew (all three) + hook

[manic spade]

is sashimi or sushi better?

[clever cove]

with other players im nosy so i like looking at what they're hooking

[clever cove]

i prefer sashimi because it's just fish + rice, while sushi requires dari clove! they do different buffs I believe

[sleek narwhal]

Hoarding is my love language ok? I might need that random thing later!! What if a quest wants 100 knapweed???

[weary void]

I can’t catch a lot of those rare/epic ones without all the buffs. I have had someone start fishing near me and suddenly gotten a rare/epic fish. But I have tried for the fish probably hundreds of times before so I’m not sure what that says.

[manic spade]

< sits on 20 dari waiting for other ppl to come make sushi withme

[clever cove]

same though im so bad at fishing if I even try to fish without any buff I will fail to get even the uncommon fish

[weary void]

Dari clove and heat root. Because I made some yesterday. I don’t have that many of either left because I keep trying for one fish.

[manic spade]

i have some, wanna come over and cook?

[clever cove]

i remember fishing for void ray with someone, watched them hook it, fail to catch it, run-jumped away, and then hooked my own void ray

[hidden trail]

Ah I would hope... Most people I know are constantly balancing to keep within the various caps they put on storage, gold, renown, etc

[clever cove]

i imagine I hooked their void ray that got away

[weary void]

I can get the fish with no bait but go through endless amounts in f bait for anything else. Yes I know I can drop the fish to save bait. But then I’m there making no money and my fish buffs seem wasters.

[hidden trail]

Even the guild coins have a cap

[clever cove]

i prefer fishing up all the fish for the cash, the gold i make from fishing is a lot (and I feed it into my rug collection)

[weary void]

Oh the void Ray didn’t take as long as the unicorn fish did.

[weary void]

That’s why I prefer to catch the fish. I am already wasting time trying to get the fish I should at least get money. I went from I can’t get any enchanted pupfish to I can’t stop finding them and want the giant Kilima stingray. 🥺

[clever cove]

if you have to spend that much time fishing you might as well get paid for it!!

[weary void]

Very true. Pay me for my fishing time. Because Zeki’s gatcha game is only gifting me seeds and I sell those back to him. How many carrots do I need?

[odd lotus]

It's random. Same chance you'd get if you were doing it normally, but this way you filter out the junk rolls.

[lavish ferry]

Yes I know that, I’m asking how many times it took for you. :))

[chilly dome]

I’m on switch how do I do this???

[tulip wagon]

RNGesus does not love me.
Not even a little.

[odd lotus]

Some recipes took me no rerolls (I waited until the pile spawned and I didn't even have to relog). Some recipes I relogged for around 30 minutes.

I can count how many for today's pile, I guess. At 9PM PST.

[wintry salmon]

hold down A then let go when the blue dot is over the circle!

[chilly dome]

Thanks! I kept just clicking a when it got to the circle

Thank you 😊

I still gotta do it to a star but I can do it now

[honest scarab]

I agree. In addition to using grind to pump playtime and metrics, I've been thinking the wait times some players impose on themselves or others in order to chop flow trees and/or grove as well as palium pre-change was also an indirect method of increasing player engagement and play time created by the devs.

[cloud nacelle]

Looks like it's happening whenever an NPC hits level 2 now. I had Subira's voice come back when I hit level 3, but not her conversation end dialogues - hopefully they fix this soon!

[celest maple]

Is it only me or do we have server instability problems since yesterday?

[honest scarab]

I'm on PC in EST and my game has been fairly stable last couple of days. Sure I just jinxed myself but earlier in the week I was having difficulties every time I switched servers, but that hasn't happened for a few days and I haven't noticed any other server blips.

[celest maple]

I'm on Switch, basically since about yesterday afternoon it so often just complaining about connection problems and even when it it's often just hanging

[spare skiff]

I love how I can find a handful of those uncommon purple crabs all over the front of the beach but I can barely find a single 'uncommon' Duskwing at or near Shrine

....I guess I needed to tab out and complain some more, but I still need a shiny one -.-

[honest scarab]

I think I had caught all of the epic bugs before I caught my first Duskwing. They are definitely tough to find, but while I'm not a big fan of using a honey lure for catching rare bugs, I've found it very helpful catching the Duskwing and have seen other people catch them that way too. I suggest setting a honey lure around time it first starts to spawn, but before doing so time some time and clear out a bunch of the other common bugs, esp the butterflies to open a slot for the Duskwing to spawn. Also find a more open area near the bridges in Maji Hollow to set the lure so easier to see it. I've caught a couple of star ones this way, but of course it all depends on RNG's mood.

[spare skiff]

It's just mostly irksome that out of all the uncommon bugs, it has a spawn rate that is especially vexing - more of a Rare or even Epic

[honest scarab]

I agree. I felt that way about how long it took me to finally get my last star bug - the Raspberry Beetle - I caught multiples, star/non-star, epic bugs before finding one star Raspberry Beetle.

[spare skiff]

Gods, I need that one too

[quick anvil]

Hey all
Its been a while since i played this game - even though i kept reading the patch notes, i must ask -
Is there a reason yet for multiplayer or has there been any word of/increase in an actual "mmo" -feeling thus far?

[honest scarab]

At least you can use a buzzy jar to track down the Raspberry Beetle. I'd clear out a bunch of reg beetles first, pop the buzzy jar (or several) and run around the farm doing some other tasks keeping an eye on the compass. It's definitely a hard find if RNG isn't in a good mood.

[clever cove]

at the moment, no not really, and no mention of a way to involve more co-op so far. That isn't to say it won't be planned in the future though, just not happening atm

[quick anvil]

Yes, thats kind of what i was waiting for. When i got an alpha invite i was on the brink of subbing to WoW, but didnt, in order to play Palia haha. It was such great fun, and after it went to beta, kept me busy for a good two months.
I just started to miss that "big" feel an mmo has, ya know? I think the beginning of Palia is absolutely great and adorable, but i think it should stay that - a beginning, where you set up your base and such, im sort of waiting till we can "unlock" the Big City and till there will be an actual Main Plot questline that draws you in. For a game that is about Archeology, there is surprisingly few of it!

[clever cove]

yeah same, I hope they implement more co-op soon! It is very different from the kind of MMOs I'm used to, much less need for other players, but I still find it fun hopefully things will change more down the line

I just would like to have more to do when playing with my friends and my sister, but atm all we can really do is fish together or cook things together (which isn't bad, just wish there was more haha)

[quick anvil]

Haha yeah, same! I find it fun, but ultimately like in any single player farming sim i get lonely and wanna just walk out to a big city where people stand around the bank and chat and do silly dances xD

[clever cove]

man I hope we can dance at each other one day at least we can make hearthands at each other

[quick anvil]

Ohh yeah like actual puzzle dungeons would be great to uncover content. I feel every patchnote i read there is just more furniture and more cooking recepies, while i live for the storyline tbh! Or something like Community Goals

[clever cove]

i made an alt thinking I could at least do the temples with my sister, but I learned its a solo instanced dungeon it seems to be perfect for co-op though, I hope they can allow it .. maybe I should submit some feedback to them

[quick anvil]

ohh is it? I went in it with my husband i believe

[clever cove]

I hope so too, i really do enjoy the writing in this game, theres a lot more nuance to the writing than most games of this genre

[clever cove]

omg?? I'm gonna try with my sister anyway were you in a party before you entered the temple?

[lyric night]

iirc they said they'll focus on the community sim part of the game first and then MMO more in the future, they are definitely aware of their lack of MMo features, maybe something will be introduced with the new map

[quick anvil]

the first two atleast, stopped playing after that. But yeah i wish there was community content like building a giant community hall, after which you must build up reputation with your community in the tiny town, after which they will allow you a permit to enter the Docks, then you get access to the Docks -zone where a community with that reputation can build a shipyard and once they have completed a ship they can travel to the Big CIty for example xP

[quick anvil]

Yes i believe so! But it may depend on the dungeon. I do remember climbing around the second one with my husband and helping eachother manage to get through it

[tribal harbor]

👀

[lyric night]

the year still has many patches to come, lets see what they've prepared for us

[west marlin]

they removed the mmo tag from steam so i think they're pretty done with the mmo idea sadly

[clever cove]

would love all of these tbh! And more community things to do, I'm in a community and there's really no difference to it than playing without one atm

[tribal harbor]

What new map?

[quick anvil]

Yeah i remember when they said this right after beta launch, i was very hopeful especially with new content every two weeks. Its just that i havent really seen new content other than temp events and more furniture/veggies lol. Content to me means story and game mechanics. They also did say they purposefully wanted to keep it cozy, and now im starting to maybe think they meant "small" with cozy? Like 25 ppl servers forever?

[quick anvil]

Ah yeah thats another sign then. I was fearing as much..

[lyric night]

well we got a bit of story at least, guess the game will take a leap with the new map, also the 4th temple concluding the temple main story in bahari bay should happen soon, probably in the patch that should happen with the steam release on the 25th

[lyric night]

||the Elderwoods ||

[west marlin]

they'd be crazy to release anything big right before going live on steam, they already arent labling it as beta/early access for whatever reason, but if the patch for the steam launch is buggy and broken its gonna be a real bad first impression

[quick anvil]

Haha yeha, especially with literally every update causing a bunch of "we are sorry we are fixing it!" messages after xD

[lyric night]

they have to patch tho, frogbert is not yet in the files so it would require a patch, when its contribution starts with the steam release

I'm still delusional thinking that the whole beta is just a social experiment and they have a full bug free game ready jk

if they are able to do a patch like 176 it should be fine, that patch fixed a bunch of stuff and only very few things broke

[west marlin]

a simple and extremely stable patch is what they need for sure

going live with green placeholder cylinders and an entire speices being accidently deleted isnt exactly what i would call a stable release 😂 I think they are going to lose a lot of good will that us kind of players have had cuz its 'beta' when they didnt market it that way on steam, so they need to make sure their releases going forward are a lot cleaner if thats what they want to do

[lyric night]

guess we’ll just have to wait and see, especially what'll happen in the next few weeks, maybe they change/announce things next week

[west marlin]

pestimistically im betting 2-3 months after the steam launch we get a 'state of the games future' post that says they are winding down new development

[quick anvil]

yush! I was craving a game like this, but itll be back to following up on their patch notes for now 😂
I wonder if there are other cozy games im missing out on. Not sure if yall are allowed to suggest me new things but they closed their other-games channel i see 👀

[quick anvil]

oof!! That would be very sad. There is huuuge potential in this.

[west marlin]

r/cozygames has a lot of great suggestions

[clever cove]

My Time at Portia/Sandrock is very similar to Palia (single player tho), highly recommend a lot of the mechanics are very similar to Palia

[quick anvil]

I bought those, i cannot stand them. I dunno what it is, it just makes my neckhairs stand up. I think its the art, the graphics.

[west marlin]

i like fae farm a lot

[clever cove]

very fair, the art style is kinda ugly LOL

[west marlin]

its so ugly i think thats why i never got into the game lol palia looks like fortnite which is pretty appealing to me visually

[lyric night]

yup Palia has a very huge potential, they just need to find the right balance between satisfying existing players with new content and polishing the game

(also testing their patches before they are deployed, but nah )

[quick anvil]

Yuuusssh i had this wishlisted but then saw a LOT of bad reviews like, boring storyline, "empty shell"-like npcs,.. bad controls,.. is it really that bad?

[dark ginkgo]

im curious what mix profile sound everyone uses? I never know which one to use lol

[west marlin]

well the npcs dont have personality liek the do in palia thats for sure, but the overall farming/mining/fishing etc gameplay is great

[lyric night]

that was the thing about Palia that hold me back at first, the fortnite like graphics but now I'm playing that damn game daily since the start

[quick anvil]

yeaah i love fortnite style graphics, bring it on bright and colorful all the way!!

[clever cove]

I actually also didnt like palia's graphics all that much, but played it cuz I was in the mood for a life sim

[quick anvil]

Real life is already dark and tragic enough as it is haha 😅

[clever cove]

Oh yes, I recommend Bear and Breakfast! you're a bear running many inns lol

[lyric night]

also about graphics etc.
I hope they change the sudden 7:30pm night light change.. the game looks sooo good just before 7:30pm and once it hits that its just bright, too bright

but lighting is a complain all the time i guess

[quick anvil]

haha i think ive seen this at some point when i was closing steam

[clever cove]

give it a try, it's pretty fun!

[west marlin]

worst part of palia graphics is the lighting

like one day the lighting changed and my blonde hair turned white 😂 and they've never managed to fix it even tho i think they've update dhte lighting like 3 times since then

[clever cove]

your char aged from the stress of palia bugs

[quick anvil]

LOL

[lyric night]

they keep updating the lighting all the time, they changed it probably 10times by now

[west marlin]

so real

[void mountain]

Invisible shop menus!! Yay!! :D

[wraith notch]

ignore me i thought this was the "button is not there for shop" issue LOL it is a different issue it seems

[void mountain]

Button exists, must be bugged lol

[lyric night]

ye the issue is that npcs that have a shop are missing the shop icon in dialogue and npcs that don't have one have the icon

[void mountain]

They swapped them internally by accident, got it

[fiery perch]

A bit delayed, but this is a good example as to why we need sliders for that

some people think it's too bright, some think it's too dark. These basic things are needed so badly in the game.

[lyric night]

yes sliders are needed

but the lighting is just messed up when it changes to night lighting

sliders take time tho

[odd lotus]

It's skinner box mechanics, and something I don't consider a good design choice for Singularity 6 in my opinion

Here's a video by Extra Credits on how skinner box mechanics can manipulate a player to continue coming back to a game without actual engaging gameplay

https://youtu.be/tWtvrPTbQ_c?si=fkXNuDEtLdnUkeSs

[fiery perch]

iirc, sliders is something that's basic, like already there? in UE5 or something, right? (This is what i've heard, I think? My memory is a bit fuzzy right now. Just woke up not too long ago and my memory is usually fuzzy )

But those kind of things are usually super basic and should of been added at the start imo

I try to stay hopeful though, just hard when it's been so long haha

[fiery perch]

Just wanting to say this was an interesting watch/listen, thank you

[odd lotus]

Any time 🫡

I find Extra Credits's earlier videos (the ones with Daniel as host) to be pretty insightful into gamedev :3

[fiery perch]

Will keep that in mind! I love those kind of videos. I always find it interesting

[modest merlin]

Can anyone help me to understand what is happening here?

I had to pick up 18 items before I could finally place something without it telling me my plot was full.

(I had already picked up 10 posts before I started recording)

[mild lodge]

What is this?? lol

[frozen falcon]

Ah yes, our good friend Cylinder-chan

[lime granite]

[ocean stone]

It is a visual bug- we speculate it's the spawn points for seashells and what not. It's also just very funny and memeable

[vocal warren]

This ladle... was here before? 😆

[mild lodge]

How would I fix it? I have a feeling it's the Dragon's Beard I'm trying to get. D:

[latent ravine]

One of the many reason I stopped playing. They don't fix their bugs.

[dense quarry]

u don't! we r expecting cylinder-chan to sadly disappear by tyhe end of the month..... (just a guess tho ofc)

[mild lodge]

rip me

[frozen falcon]

Sure they do! they actually fix quite a lot of bugs.

[latent ravine]

It surely doesn't feel like it.

[frozen falcon]

Yeah well there's been a few that stayed for a while and ofc there's always new ones popping up as well, especially if they hinder progress it's very noticeable

But it's good to keep an eye out for patch notes where they mention their bug fixes, to check if your particular ones have been caught

[mild lodge]

unggg, those things are 100% the dragon's beard. This suuuucks

[ocean stone]

Oh really?! Hmm I hadn't been seeing many of those before the cylinders attacked, but now I'm not sure I've gotten any since they showed up

[mild lodge]

p a i n

[wraith notch]

i dont think theyre dragon beard, they even mentioned they were shells

[vagrant star]

Just found two dragon beard peat, they are still available.

[mild lodge]

maybe the interactive map is wrong then cause everywhere its telling me to go for them, i see a bunch of cylinders, shells, but no peat

[wraith notch]

whatever it is they are related to, it is not stopping all spawns for whatever it is

[vagrant star]

I have no clue, but have already found all forageables this update... So, shouldn't stop any of them.

[lime granite]

I get dragons beard every day. All the beach forage is still spawning.

[mild lodge]

I'll just keep trying then. Thanks ya'll!

[vagrant star]

Good luck!
I've found that most of the peat is sort of close to the big white wall and at least a bit above sea level...

[dim shale]

afaik it's just a random shell asset that is bugged right now, you'll still be able to see and collect dragons peat moss!

[modest merlin]

I'm not missing something obvious here, am I? There's not a way to buy things from stores en masse.

[vagrant star]

None that I'm aware of, no.

[wraith notch]

some people legit use a macro and let it run apparently lmao (not saying to do this but its something ive seen)

[modest merlin]

Guess I'll just continue to kill 100s of times to buy wood.

[tribal harbor]

Finally got all my equipment to exquisite!

[last socket]

does anyone kno have we hit 5k on the wish list for the frog yet

[celest maple]

As far as the cylinders: I have seen more shells then before the cylinders were there. So I’d they were shells that would be A LOT of shells. Also dragons beard still spawns for me.

[summer palm]

maybe it's gunna be a new type of spawn

[lyric night]

the last thing they announced was 3x, if they didn’t reach 400k over the weekend its still 3x

[last socket]

ok

[lime granite]

#📢│palia-status message
It says here model for shells.

[tribal pagoda]

is there any way to fix the "attempting to reconnect chat" bug? I can't use my chat at all and it's driving me NUTS

[sacred cliff]

Recent days I’m seeing more n more hopes for rain in game 🥰🌧️ i think it’d be lovely. My only concern is spotting foragables, but they could easily give them a better glow while it’s raining.

Any hopes for next update?

[midnight oak]

I hope they add it eventually as well. It might be a matter of visibility issues.

[hexed cloak]

I'm getting there! My bug belt is still fine and my rod is still standard

[midnight oak]

Yeah my hoe is still iron because…. I’m lazy I guess XD

[clever cove]

I'm mostly worried how rain would affect switch players as the switch is already struggling to load even extra assets (like tamala house crashes)

[plain swift]

I suspect they'll have to make optimisations

[hexed cloak]

Like actually crashes?

[clever cove]

They've taken out so much from switch ver just to make it functional and even then it's barely there

Yes it crashes switch players because tamala's house has too many assets for the switch to handle

[west marlin]

LOOOL

[hexed cloak]

Rain can be implemented simply as a transparent overlay over the screen. A lot of old games use this trick

[sacred cliff]

Cool trick!

[stoic tusk]

the rain visual effect might have to be disabled entirely for switch users.

this is something i was worried about when they added switch crossplay because the game would have to keep switch performance in mind from now on and it's a difficult balance.

[clever cove]

Old games rain effects may not carry over well into palia however

[lavish estuary]

does anyone know if there are negative consequences for breaking up with characters? including like sad or upsetting dialogue im finding the romance stuff stressful but im also terrified im going to hurt their feelings (cringe i know but just. listen)

[sacred cliff]

Next update around april 1st?

[clever cove]

From what I heard you do hurt at least two of the guys, unsure about the ladies

[hexed cloak]

If it's made well enough it looks pretty convincing

[odd lotus]

Your emotional self takes a toll

[plain swift]

that's also a possibility, or have it much more basic?

[lavish estuary]

do u know which ones?

[hexed cloak]

I also want rain in Palia. I'm tired of it always being sunny and could use some help with watering my crops

[stoic tusk]

I did a quick search on reddit and people are saying they don't comment on it. on that note, you don't actually have to break up with anyone. just wear the pin of the 2 villagers you like the most.
the only ones i think who might have an issue with you wearing pins are reth and tish.

@plain swift yeah, if not disabled then very limited or minimal rain effect so it's less performance impacting.

[clever cove]

Oops you mean breaking up, I was thinking of them finding out you were dating other ppl unsure about the breakup dialogue actually

[novel glacier]

Do we know if palia will ever be available for mac?

Id really like to experience the nice visuals but i do not have a pc : (

[sacred cliff]

What wallpaper is this? Ashura?

[hexed cloak]

This may help
https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1136399336385806427

[hallow hare]

is anyone else unable to enter the temple for the masks quest? im at the find the meaning, but i cant get in nor do i have a key from jina.

[modern rock]

you get the key from her level 3 friendship quest

[hallow hare]

oh ok thank

[clever bough]

I have questions about fences:

1. I can only find 2 types, the default log cabin fences, and the emberborn fences. Are there any others, or is it just those two?
2. Are there any plans to rework fences? The amount you need right now to fence even a small area is ridiculous. I don't want to grind out 1400 flow wood planks just to fence in my house. 😅😭

[scarlet hazel]

those are the only fences in game and we have no idea if theyre gonna rework fences at all, even if we send in feedback

[stoic tusk]

on that note, the wooden fences are pretty versatile (and cheap!) and you can create your own fence designs out of them instead of just making straight lines

[clever bough]

Yeah, I don't like the way they look too much, but I don't really have an option sadly. The emberborn fences are too expensive to be usable.

I do hope they add more options soon

[stoic tusk]

yeah that is one downside that we can't really change how they look, and me too! i'd like cottage walls/fences.

[clever bough]

I want some smooth stone or heartwood fences. It'd be fun to play around with stuff like that

[stoic tusk]

here's hoping we get our wishes!

[ocean stone]

Hey Iike your new pfp!

[scarlet hazel]

i hope they make some stuff cheaper to make or its a perk for getting to like, 10s in a skill. like a bonus instead of just skill medals being the only thing really. id like something actually worthwhile.

also ty. i found a picrew and made it from there

[modest merlin]

Does anyone else think that the Kilima Couch is mislabeled, or was intended to be the couch for the Homestead set?

There's also the Kilima Inn Couch, so there's two Kilima themed couches, but there's no couch for the Homestead theme.

[elfin steeple]

Would people like to see the ability to open/run a restaurant for the NPCs to visit, run it with players working different jobs (think similar to overcooked 2) to earn money and generate revenue and renown. Your individual restaurant expertise would level independently to other cooks, but the successful completion (or unsuccessful) would dictate how much is earned as a group. 🙂

[fading knoll]

Zeki has a nice iron fence behind his house. They already have the models for a lot of stuff. Seems like they're going to release it at a very slow pace.

[stoic tusk]

those fences in white

[keen rose]

Hello guys! Have you noticed that there are more flow trees these days? I have a bad feeling about this, I have noticed that people can group up and go all over the map, chop together, it is nice, but today it happened that I found groves lonely around 06:00, there was no one to chop from midnight. Just wondering what if the grove loses its uniqueness and loses its interest, with too much flow trees these days?

[frozen falcon]

Hmm I think it has to do with timezones. From my experience flow wood is still very much wanted. New players join in every day and soon we will have steam launch too. I think flow wood won´t go for another while

[keen rose]

Yes, I see, just too much flow trees, not challenging to find it, hope there will be some balance

[frozen falcon]

It´s interesting you mention it, I think you´re one of the few who thinks there´s too much

[earnest stone]

I remember after one patch, servers came back to life and there were flow trees all over. We chopped like 1 hour straight at bahsri with always getting called to the next. Not sure if its a bug with the map or the patch but it was awesome

This was early in the open beta, no grooves avaidable

[hexed cloak]

Personally, I have more flow wood than I know what to do with

[frozen falcon]

Fill in requests

[lyric night]

yup, always thought that + it fits homestead way more

[safe island]

is it a common glitch for a plot you didnt pay for to be available? i only bought one plot, and i have 3...

sorry i think this is wc

[lyric night]

u get 2 for free

[safe island]

wait WHAT?????

oh i see, housing slots III has 2/5 - ok thanks for the help LOL sorry im still new

[hexed cloak]

I do!

[lofty mulch]

The next update I'm assuming is going to be the 25th. That's when the Steam release is scheduled for

[hexed cloak]

I feel like this task needs to be replaced, since the way nodes work changed

[lyric night]

u just need to coordinate it with another player now, just like the cooking together etc. weeklies, its just not that easy to casually do it with a random without any communication of course

[hexed cloak]

Typical Bahari at 12am. 😅

[wraith notch]

Go to kilima and hit every clay once and walk away lol

[pulsar marlin]

can any1 help me make a trout dinner? i dont have the recipe but if someone does would you mind coming to my plot?

[hexed cloak]

Ahahaha thanks for the tip

[ember onyx]

(I apologize, this is a bit of a rant incoming lol!!) It seems crazy they’ll release it to Steam with it still in the middle of these major issues… the bugs from the last Patch are so significant.

I really wish they’d slow their roll and focus more on making this game playable (and labeling it open beta some places and not in others, which is so misleading and feels really icky to me). I understand they need money and a new influx of players to keep it going, but it still plays like it’s in alpha testing. Nearly every mechanic of this game is bugged. Climbing. Hunting. Fishing. Cooking. Farming. Decorating. Bug Catching (maybe mining and furniture making are too but I’ve been lucky not to run into major issues). You can’t do hardly anything like it’s supposed to be done. Maybe I just haven’t played enough MMOs or Indie games but it continually feels like S6 has bitten off a far bigger bite than they are capable of chewing

All that to say, I enjoy the game!! I love love love the characters. But I started playing when it was released on Switch (which was NOT advertised as still being in Open Beta) so I expected a more polished game. And many months later, the same issues are still there—if not worse than when I started. It’s just kind of… baffling?? SORRY END RANT, just had to get that out.

[craggy rune]

So, is there a point to the supreme smoke bomb? It kindof seems to invalidate the higher ranking belts just by existing.

[ocean stone]

Omg your pfp is adorable

[scarlet hazel]

Yeah s6 so far has not been making smart decisions. The switch release proved that. They're stuck in a hard place and unless they somehow switch things up before the steam release, its only going to get way, way rougher for them

[wraith notch]

I love the masterball but it does take pearls to make so it's not easy to get a hefty supply of
though I guess you could dump bug skill medals on them

[craggy rune]

If only we could make an oyster farm.

Imagine being able to make fish farms like you can in Stardew Valley.

[hexed cloak]

I feel like "everything is bugged" is an overstatement.

I haven't experienced any major bugs except for missing muujin and green barrels

[harsh river]

max friendship and relationship with npc still gives +5 renown when chat?

[dry swift]

@ember onyx I can understand your frustration. I've been playing since October on PC and there have been plenty of bugs with each patch, and S6 seems to fix most of them then release a new patch full of shiny things that comes with a new set of bugs; rinse and repeat. It's strange that the discord also had an issue with mods recently and just last month (or maybe it was 2 months ago?) replaced their community manager. Of course I don't want to make assumptions because I don't know the full story for either of the previously mentioned situations, but maybe S6 is just going through some growing pains right now as they're trying to settle themselves on Steam.

[lyric night]

community managers were never replaced, 2 just left at the end of the year

[dry swift]

@lyric night oh, I see. that's not good lol

[vagrant star]

Those are the two biggest ones, here, though I seem to have some issues with chat disconnecting and the visibility of other players.
And while I didn't personally get it, apparently right now the settings for who can visit your plot are broken.

[hexed cloak]

Still that's a far cry from "every gameplay aspect is broken"
It's just minor bugs, as expected with anything that's in beta
Just needs a bit more polish

[vagrant star]

Fair, when keeping in mind it's beta Palia seems pretty smooth to me... The only bug I really have issues with is the one stopping me from sending bug reports, reporting bugs is what beta tests are there for after all!

[hexed cloak]

The only two other bugs I've experienced is drops from some mining nodes floating in the air (just a visual/cosmetic issue) and the game not remembering the resolution I set it to in windowed mode

I've reported both of them 🫡

[vagrant star]

Oh, right, the flying stuff...

[lime granite]

I've hit a lot of bugs. Including the "cannot climb"
Luckily I've missed the major bugs where people literally couldn't progress their story for a month or more cause there wasn't a fix in place (subaru arrival and || saying no to eshe so not being able to go to the party || and then the gales temple bug so people couldn't progress and some still can't !)
My issue is the severe lack of accessibility settings. But I'd also like to be able to reliably climb or at least given more stamina in place of the fact I can get to the very top of a cliff and be stuck and then have no stamina to go another direction lol

[dry swift]

Do item requests work properly now? I haven't logged on for a while.

[lime granite]

Oh and the whole freezing at cooking. Doing the h and or unstuck doesn't always work for me and I shouldn't have to remember to hold a tool to cook 😂
Plus on switch I can't edit from overhead on my plot esp when trying to change window shape. My whole game freezes and I have to restart.

[ocean stone]

Yes!

[dry swift]

@ocean stone Excellent! Glad to hear they finally fixed that system.

[hexed cloak]

I've had the chopping minigame not respond to my clicks today but /unstuck fixed it

[ocean stone]

Yes it was a mess and so painful when it was borked. Multicrafting is also fixed now anyway, welcome back here!

[vagrant star]

We really need /unstuck to work in all languages, if it doesn't you'll have to find it for your language which is impossible on Switch (I heard on PC, there's a list of all commands)...

[dry swift]

@ocean stone Thank you. I don't have any plans to play until S6 releases something truly amazing but I like to keep up with ingame news and pop in the chats every now and then 🙂

[hexed cloak]

Multicrafting worked fine for me even before the patch when they allegedly fixed it

[leaden timber]

The whole time I was playing, if you tried to multicraft it would show you the crafting graphic but would still only make 1 of the object. The fix definitely actually fixed it forme.

[ocean stone]

Fair enough! Happy to see people pop by in any case. (tomorrow is the big sdv 1.6 release sooo I know I'll be spending time elsewhere myself)

[hexed cloak]

I multicrafted stuff like arrows just fine

[leaden timber]

It's not that I don't believe you, so much as wonder what made you a magical exception on PC when like...absolutely nobody could multicraft on PC. you could set it to make 2, 3, 4 stacks of arrows and the process would complete, it just only actually gave me the 1 stack of 10 every time.

[dry swift]

@ocean stone I hope you enjoy! I used to love that game.

[hexed cloak]

Hahaha I don't play SDV

[hexed cloak]

Maybe only old players were affected? I started playing a month ago

[leaden timber]

So you might have just started playing after it was fixed, so you never played while it wasn't.

[hexed cloak]

I started during hotpot, before the cylinder update

By the time that update released I already had a decent bit of progress

[leaden timber]

It was fixed in January IIRC

[dry swift]

Hotpot was neat, I just wish S6 would have given us the option to have a hotpot table in our house so we can play with other players.

[lime granite]

Sounds about right. I remember having some issues when I quit in Novemberish with multi crafting then came back to it fixed 😂

[ocean stone]

It's definitely not a game for everyone, but it's a game for meee

[spare skiff]

Yanno, it occurs to me
I think I've only gotten one amethyst ever

[warm python]

G'morning friendos how've you been

[west marlin]

[teal pollen]

I fully get this. I did programming for 5 years so i understand the issues they are running into but it does feel so rushed. IF they put it on steam as is the gamer world will tear it apart and it will no longer be the Palia we know. While we can not control how the company runs we can control the recourses we give them. I have all the time in the world to play this game and report bugs, and if you have the time as well do so. That goes for anyone reading this. When making the ticket write out step by step where you are and how you ran into the issue best you can so they can replicate and fix the issue.

[polar elbow]

my biggest concern is that Palia is burning up all their chances to make a good first impression (new platform launches) at a breakneck pace, and if/when the game does finally get its issues sorted out... they might not have any new audiences/platforms left.
Hiding the beta label like they've been is only going to make the first impressions even worse by misleading people into thinking it's a complete, relatively bug-free game, and then it turning out to be the opposite :/
It feels incredibly short-sighted and makes me have doubts about the longevity of the game tbh

[scarlet hazel]

exactly. THAT is the biggest issue here. they keep messing up first impressions and with how the game is being run rn. it will be hard for them to get a good playerbase later on and it will most likely be dead on arrival if they finally get the issues all sorted out n all

at this point really, when it hits steam, it will absolutely tarnish their reputation and it will be incredibly difficult for them to recover, if at all in the worse case scenario

[midnight oak]

We don't really have the back-end data to know just where the game is in terms of health. I could be wrong and I'm willing to be wrong, but once the game is on steam there will be some metrics by which we can gauge the health of the game.

[teal pollen]

Every time ive brought a friend into this game i have to beg them to see around the bugs. I myself have almost put the game away until the bugs are sorted more.

[hexed cloak]

It made a great first impression on me. Now I'm addicted pls help

[peak spear]

Bringing the game out to the switch while the game is still in "Beta" was a bad idea. They can only update the game once per month bc of Nintendo and their standards
Switch is 7 years old...

[hexed cloak]

Oh it'll succeed. It's free, runs on potato hardware and a "cozy game" (a genre that appeals to a wide audience)

[fiery mango]

I can't speak for every gamer obviously, but at least for my part and many of my friends, we don't mind encountering bugs; the problem is in encountering the same bug for months with no hope for the future

[teal pollen]

It doesnt run on potato hardware actually it crashes my laptop

[teal pollen]

That really more of the issue here the game has been updated like 3 times in the 4 months ive played and i still cant climb half the cliffs

[fiery mango]

I don't pity any live service game for their balancing act of needing to communicate to keep players looped in, and not over-promising on anything

[hexed cloak]

The minimum requirements list mid-range hardware from 2012-2013. What message does it crash with?

[peak spear]

Ive noticed that every patch comes with a bug of some sort... been that way since open Beta Launch in August

[worn snow]

when u say health what r u referring to? like what are the vitals of a game?

[fiery mango]

there is no software without bugs, so patches will always mix things up. they have been providing pretty serviceable patchnotes, but not addressing bugs or communicating effort at a level that most gamers are happy with

[worn snow]

often a pretty large bug too which sucks :/ eg removing a whole mob type

[teal pollen]

yeah someone needs to fix that even with all low quality graphics the game has crashed 2/3 laptops tried

[midnight oak]

Like player count and peak player count. I don't know the exact number of data points you can gauge from steam, but I know a lot of folks I've seen talk about games on youtube reference statistics like that.

[scarlet hazel]

a game made with UE5 will not run on potato computers or run well. it ran like garbage, even on the lowest settings on my old laptop before i had to upgrade. and that thing couldnt handle warframe or any other games. even WoW and WoW classic was struggling on it

[hexed cloak]

This is a myth. Engine doesn't matter much, how the game is made does
Unreal wouldn't be one of the most used engines in the industry if it was not well-optimized

People make Switch games with UE5 just fine, and Switch has a tablet CPU from 2015 and a GPU equivalent of a GT 710.

[scarlet hazel]

they probably make sure to optimize it well then. just in my experience, a lot of UE5 games just couldnt run on my old laptop at all, even if i met the minimum requirements, or it ran like a slideshow evne on the lowest of graphics

it really all just boils down how the devs optimize their game and all. palia so far isnt too well optimized imo

[arctic jackal]

My weekly achievements are getting done without me doing them… is this a new bug? I haven’t caught any fish or bugs but I have all those like half completed somehow?

[spare skiff]

I've noticed that if you don't complete something, it won't reset

[arctic jackal]

Ohhh okay then yeah that’s probably what it is then! I’ve never noticed that before lol

[spare skiff]

I've had 'Cook Together' at 1/3 for over a month because I've only cooked with a friend once so it's just sitting there waiting like 😐

[wraith notch]

progress carries over yep

[crude aurora]

what i well do with all this?

[teal pollen]

personally i delete them, my best friend is collecting them to make a tall stack. Get creative!

[flint igloo]

I made a staircase to the top of my gazebo and my house roof. Others have done amazingly creative decorations and mazes

I also used it to hide my crafting materials so its not seen by everyone

[crude aurora]

nice thanks for the idai

[stoic tusk]

I keep a ladder of them in the back of my house that I move around freely for when I need to get on my roof. Which isn't often but it's enough that I have a ladder on standby lol

[teal pollen]

what do you do on the roof?

[wraith notch]

clears throat

There is a higher level room on gazebos you can decorate that you can't reach without making a way up yourself, a stair case is good for then
Any time you need height, they are useful, especially on switch when you can't jump while in placement mode because it cancels out for some reason??
they can work to do a few decor glitches, one very easy one will make it so you can place wall decor above doors and bay windows where they can't normally go (I do this to put curtains on my doors)
There is another glitch for floating items with them

Height is also good for easy access to changing your roof color

They also do not take up storage space so you are free to just collect them
You may also feel like they look nice in certain decorated areas, i like the leafy / vines ones for garden areas for example
and some of the boxes look nice in areas where you put your crafters / work stations

[stoic tusk]

I can't decide on roof tiles because s6 didn't add the same blue the default roof has to the renown shop and my pavilion and gazebo are red and it bugs me

[dire river]

I made an igloo out of them at some point

[leaden timber]

Tish also takes them as gifts if you just don't want them at all

[teal pollen]

why did no one tell me i can glitch things above doors???? please share a how to

[wraith notch]

sure one second!

[wraith notch]

Here's me sharing pictures of putting something in my bay window, but it works the same for when doing the door #🐣│palia-newbies message
Basically, you stair case them, then line them up so you can see the grid on them
then you can put an item on it, remove the stack and the item stays

[teal pollen]

Incredible thank you, now time to save chests :(

[wraith notch]

any decor glitch you can do with the chests is a god send, since a lot of things you can't do without the magical red present

[teal pollen]

what is this magical red present ive heard talk but do not own one

[wraith notch]

basically, they forgot to tick a couple boxes on the christmas present item and it ended up being able to do almost anything lol

[spare skiff]

Christmas event exclusive

[wraith notch]

here's a tutorial on floating items with the treasure chests though! https://youtu.be/6TB3GzmUrqo

[west marlin]

How many more days till the steam release

[ocean stone]

Seven...ish. wait it's going on steam on a Monday?!

[frozen falcon]

1 more week woooo

[west marlin]

So one more week till beta is over... Or...?

[frozen falcon]

exciting times

[vagrant star]

Or it goes to steam as a beta game.
It doesn't feel quite ready for a full release, somehow...

[ocean stone]

[brisk spruce]

one more week until they either leave beta or lie about the state of the game again? I guess?

[frozen falcon]

Full STEAM ahead

I'm sure it'll all go fine, I believeeee

[spark pawn]

Their going to have to put the tree puppies back if they plan on leaving beta

[brisk spruce]

really they should do that even if they don't leave beta

[stoic tusk]

I hope we get a pretty good patch before steam release so it has the best impression it can have.

[lean silo]

are the servers in maintenance or why i cant login

[stoic tusk]

There's no announcement about maintenance or them being down but there's a good chance the servers are acting a lil funky. Try again in a couple mins

[lean silo]

oh ok tysm

[stoic tusk]

Np! I had some issues travelling from my house last night and kept getting an error so it might be some residual server issues from the other weekend when things were bumpy

[warm python]

god the log-in rewards have me just. crylaughing a bit again. they're so meager

[dire river]

"Can I interest you in some.. slabs of meat?"

[warm python]

a few scraps of meat and drops of soy sauce

[brisk spruce]

they really should have been daily rewards considering how easy it is to hunt for muujin meat and how long they're missing from the game for... even if you can't aim, just need someone who can and you chop trees for them

[warm python]

Seriously, they really ought to have been daily at the least considering the amount

[dire river]

And star quality

[brisk spruce]

especially on steam, steam reviewers are merciless lol

[coarse abyss]

Frogbert can only save us from so much

[ocean stone]

Please sir S6, can we have some more

[worn snow]

wait r they going to steam without fixing tree chappas?

[lyric night]

there will veeeerry likely be a patch before the steam release

there has to be one, bcs of frogbert

[worn snow]

i'm not saying ur wrong nor am i doubting u or anything but what makes you say that? what if frogbert is just already in the game

[coarse abyss]

I looked everywhere. Searched every single pixel i can stand on. No Frogbert in sight just yet

[worn snow]

ruhroh

[coarse abyss]

But yeah, the monthly patch schedule lines up with the Steam release. So i'm expecting an update as well

[lyric night]

also the timing fits perfectly for the steam release which is 11am PT, their patches are 7am-10am
guess we'll know more on friday, if there will be a confirmed patch

[worn snow]

thats good at least im glad they're fixing stuff i hope nothing else breaks

[lyric night]

we all know that'll happen, I just hope that not too much breaks

[coarse abyss]

Yeah. The Bahari Space Program is only on a temporary halt

[granite ruin]

this might be a silly question but does anyone know where you get plushies like tish has as decor in her house?

[lyric night]

zekis gacha u get one coin for it every real life day by purchasing anything in the general store, additional ones can be bought in the underground for 10k each, plushies have a very low droprate(0.21%) tho

[granite ruin]

oh weird! i’ve never noticed getting one! is this the same as a lucky coin?

[lyric night]

it IS the lucky coin

u use it at the gumball machine in zekis store and get a lucky box which u can open, most of the time u will get seeds etc. tho

[brisk spruce]

starting a petition for more plushies and a slight drop rate increase

muujin plushie when?

[granite ruin]

this is very helpful! yeah I only ever get seeds or produce so I thought maybe that’s all it had in the gacha machine

[lyric night]

at least we should get another plush with the release of the 4th temple, looking at the pedastal in the night sky temple it should be a ||galdur|| plushie

[brisk spruce]

I really do hope so, I'll be very sad if this doesn't become the reality (I've been hoping for it since the kitsuu plushie was added)

[granite ruin]

what are the current plushies? i’ve unlocked all the temples UTD but haven’t seen any plushies outside of the one in the underground and in tish’s place

[lyric night]

https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Lucky_Box u can check everything u get in it on the official wiki, there is also furniture

[lyric night]

https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Furniture/Item_Catalog#Plush that are all plushies currently in the game (not all are available atm)

[polar elbow]

Oh jeezus that is a horrendously low drop rate. What the hell, rates like that (with no pity, especially!) are the sort of thing I usually see in p2w gacha games, not a game that tries to market itself as 'cozy' lmao

[lyric night]

the rummage pile recipes have around the same droprate iirc

[stoic tusk]

honestly easiest way i've found to kill muujin (or really muujin and deer, esp magic deer) is to try and chase them to a cliff like thorny and they basically just run back and forth since they can't jump lol

then it's just a matter of time. sometimes magic deer can teleport off but most of the time i've noticed they just teleport to the other side of the cliff and continue running back/forth lol

[stoic tusk]

me with my last christmas rug that i never got despite getting the rummage almost every day but i sure got a lot of duplicates despite the fact i could craft them whenever i wanted! lol

oh and rocks, got a lot of rocks

[polar elbow]

Yeah, I do not blame the people using that one trick to 'force' the piles to give you a recipe or quest itemone bit after hearing that. >>

[stoic tusk]

i don't either lol i'm definitely a firm believer that if you put the time into it, you should get the rewards. i was excited that the event got extended bc that meant more chances and still never got it. lol

imo it should prioritize holiday recipes/limited time drops you don't already have then sure, go ahead and give dupes or rocks, or whatever lol
or the rates for the holiday items should just be a lil bit higher than normal crafting materials

[vagrant star]

Or have each item be certain on one of the days... Could even be a random day, just a way to make certain everyone can get everything...

[polar elbow]

I would even go so far as to say, get rid of the rocks and whatnot entirely, make the "bad" prize some kind of token that you can trade a certain # in to get an event item of choice
and just design it so that, even with the worst of luck, if you do it every day you will be able to get enough 'pity tokens' to get at least one of every event-exclusive item

[stoic tusk]

I agree, on one hand the materials could be handy to someone who is starting out but on the other, it's a pretty meager amount that they could just easily get in a quick farm grab.

As someone who is end game though -- It does feel pretty disappointing to get them instead of the recipes I am still searching for. I've only gotten, I think 2? of the kilima rummage recipes and 1 bahari rummage recipe.

[worn snow]

bc my parents raised me cheap and it changed my brain chemistry, whenever a game has a gacha mechanic like that i just mark it off in my brain as unobtainable 😭

[polar elbow]

I will say though, it's.... incredibly disappointing to me, to quit other games because they pulled this kind of FOMO crap with events where it was impossible to obtain everything I wanted in the limited time window due to RNG gacha mechanics, come to palia thinking "well maybe this cozy game will be different" but nope, somehow Palia's limited time event RNG gacha mechanics are worse because at least the game I played before gave you a "pick anything" ticket after 40 tries

[lyric night]

at least palia has only ingame currency/nothing u have to actually pay for gacha

[worn snow]

truuu it just works that way in my brain regardless lol

[scarlet hazel]

gacha mechanics are still gacha mechanics tho. honestly wack for how long its been just accepted

[midnight oak]

I’m a little unsure I’d call the rummage piles “gacha mechanics”. I could be wrong but I feel like we’re diluting what “gacha” means

[worldly swan]

It means paying money for random stuff

The money part is the important part

It's a monetization model

[brisk spruce]

I don't consider the rummage piles to be gacha. But they are designed to make you feel like you have to log in every day to get what you're looking for with ridiculously low once-a-day rng rates

[leaden timber]

I think most people go "Oh a random pile of thing I found in my travels neat" and don't even know it's a daily thing, or that there are specific things that can only come from them.

[brisk spruce]

I have met people who said they didn't know what they were or what they were for and then got upset that they hadn't been grabbing them every day because of lack of knowledge 👀 either way they're a terrible thing that make people feel fomo in a cozy game lol

[worldly swan]

I feel weird about looking at it that way, FOMO by definition means they are taking away the rewards, am I missing that? Do they plan to remove the piles? Or do you mean like, fear of not getting what they want faster?

[brisk spruce]

it was during winterlights so it was temporary event decor that's now not available

[leaden timber]

The odds don't account for long tail, so to get everything, you may need to be hitting them for a very long time, so every day/week/month you haven't been getting them is that much longer to get all the things out of it

[worldly swan]

Ohhhh that makes sense, so holiday events. Yeah, that's definitely FOMO

Hopefully they'll put out all the same decorations for each holiday

[stoic tusk]

It just kinda sucks to wait an entire year for it, and then if it's a chance thing again, still might not get it esp if they add more to the rummage piles which is very possible.

[worldly swan]

I heard that the string lights were a winterlights thing and I never got it, so I hope I get another chance. The rummage piles and stuff though I am not worried about, I'll get all that stuff over time.

[lyric night]

they were not a winterlights thing at least not intentional, they were an item players got through a bug by crafting the winterlight candle, and candelabrum, the item on its own will be released properly at some point

[stoic tusk]

The string lights weren't winterlights specific, they actually were added by accident before winterlights happened and since they weren't intended to be in the game yet, were promptly removed from the crafting recipes. The peeps that have them now are the ones who were able to get some crafts before it was removed.

[worldly swan]

It would be a gacha mechanic if like.... you get one pull free (from a pile) and can pay .99 to refresh that pull every day for random loot. That's more like how gacha mechanics work. The string lights look so awesome, I love lights.

[brisk spruce]

they need to make the event limited ones not give dupes I had SO MANY dupes before I even had any of the rugs (or maybe I had one rug, idr. I didnt have most of them though I know that for sure)

[cunning pebble]

A little spoiler I suppose if you havent read the relationships chart ||If Kenyatta and Nai'O are dating, then how will the romance work? Like if you date one will there be a break up or are you just third wheeling at that point||

[leaden timber]

Kenyatta relationship spoilers ||Her level 2 romance quest involves her deciding to break up with Nai'o. They remain friends.||

[stoic tusk]

my god yes, I got so many dupes and the dupes are annoying because you get the recipe anyway! so why do I need to get dupes of what I can easily craft??

[fiery isle]

or deciding ||not to break up with him|| depending on your choice