Everyone is expressing their apprehension and appreciation for change. I literally said "And now certain shepps will feel less concerned that people who went unpunished will attack them in public due to being a shepp. Happy days ahead." And I've been pressed to explain by people reading into it. Like is what happens so often here.
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What about zebra popcorn? that's my fave

Quick digression: What is 'zebra popcorn'? I've never heard of it...
What is that? Striped popcorn? If so, sounds funny!
We have the pretty color and the paw print, but we're not OFFICIAL-official until the 13th. ā¤ļø
My powers of autism makes me immune from gaslighting
We have slow down immunity š¤ 
will the modmail be safe and secure and such? as in, it'll only be read by moderators? (ofc precluding like. it being reported to discord or the cia or whatever)
Ah truly a person of class!
i mean saying its people "unpunished" is really confusing to me. do you mean people who arent punished are going to attack others freely cause they havent been punished or something else?? /genq
Bro Iām autistic. Teach me your ways, wizard man!
It's popcorn striped with white and dark chocolate, it's SO good
i hope so
People who went unpunished were freely attacking people because the mods wouldn't step in. I'm hoping that doesn't happen again.
Sadly the super power comes in all shapes and sizes
Mine just happens to be an annoyingly specific memory

This is so nice... š„ŗ Thank you.
If it's as sweet as when Reth calls us Sweetooth then im in
Admins, mods, and Discord as a company are who have access.
soooo you gunna share? i can bring the tea!
oh š„“
Iāll trade you for obsessive hyper focusing!
I want that stuff in Palia, it sounds amazing!
and no one else?
i second this š
I have just seen that Palia will be released on March 25th on steam.. I don't see the point? It's still aimed towards PC players!
Yup great advice
Ooooo, what kind of tea?? I love tea! I'll bring lots to share
oh. yeah that is a really big issue here, including people who are just awful walking around without anyone stepping in but other ppl and the ppl get punished instead of the instigators. ty for clarifying /gen /pos
okay <:-V
If modmail got leaked I would report that to ashe so she can look into things tbh, its the first time im hearing about it though
as in, if you're buddy with another member and i bring problems to u about said member, you cannot share my modmail i sent to yall with that member?
but i'm also not a mod yet haha
Right now, people have to download a client to their computers if they wanna play! Steam makes it more accessible to a wider audience, and it's still available on the Switch! ā¤ļø
agreed
May I request vanilla spice? I'm making almond crossants, free for everyone?
Someone shared here that their mod mail report was shared with the person it was made against
Ooooh that sounds delish!
But donāt treat the public as modmail. Or do. Gives us something interesting to read
Still needs a good PC or laptop to play it. It isn't very good on switch š
BWAHAHAHA i love that
ive got lots! green teas with raspberry etc or black tea like my rose or oolong (tho i just ran out of that) i have to many to list XD
luckily i am a grown up ā„ļø
While I cannot speak for all mods, I can say that attacking and āslap fightsā will be redirected and handled accordingly. Iād ban my own family and best friends if they came into my space and caused problems.
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Wish me luck because I am making them from literal scratch. As in I'm currently letting the dough rise around the butter block I have.
Yeah not how you want it to be - thatās why Iām glad for these changes

A rare species in these here parts
and yeah thats why i asked bcos of stuff i've heard that's pretty scary imo
I am saddened, cannot play Palia on my laptop, fans broke down.
I still have my switch, but the controls are taking a bit to get used to, sadly cannot chat, and graphics are definitely lower
Can we be tea bffs?
I don't think I've tried rose!!! I had this amazing peach oolong one time, I was so obsessed with it. I usually like black teas a little better , but there's so many good green teas too!
That was my intention! I love that those are coming back!
The steam reviews is why I've been waiting to hear from Mel for more then a week now about why the steam page misleadingly fails to mention the game is in beta
Tea is goooood. I found a green tea I really liked but then it was mad expensive lmao. Dragonwell I think?
Modmail is a ticketing system. Itās understandable to worry about āwho watches the watchers?ā However, some of us were chosen specifically for demonstrating a willingness to be fair, firm, and impartial.
If by can't chat you mean it takes a year to type, no fix, but if you mean chat won't connect, check your date and time as timetravel breaks chat in palia
Peach oolong? im invested cue the did we just become besties gif
Like I said, is a game update can delete AN ENTIRE SPECIES from the game, and take a month to fix, steam reviews will eat you alive and early access is the saving grace
Yes meaning it takes a year to type hahah
Yeah its been pretty bad.
||unrelated, but wanted to say - I know weāve had our disagreements in the past and both of us have not been the most chill w eachother but hoping we can put it in the past and just vibe :)||
Can sheppmods really be impartial if they have developed and have long standing friendships across the palia community though? It's a real concern, for their sake I hope they don't have to cut ties with people but also, how else can they be fair and impartial
I'm still just kind of staring at that having happened
that doesnt really answer my question. is modmail safe and secure?? as in, will anything be shared from modmail with ANYONE ELSE in the server?
I haven't found one again, I should go look and see if I can find a different one. It was a summer special at the coffeeshop I worked at, it was called Little Dragon Peach (Maji plz, bring it back! It is named after you!) But they stopped making it years ago
oh man i forgot the muujin just disappeared. honestly its weirdly nice to not be jumpscared by those dogs everytime i wanna go cut trees in bahari now
Earl Grey milk tea, iced, boba optional.
gasp ill def keep an eye out for that one
I mean the question about impartiality can be asked regardless if they are sheppmods or not. Itās why you hear so many horror stories from many communities about mods being bribed.
is it bad i perfer the muujin now being gone and hope they get moved to an entirely different area at some point in the future? they make bahari feel really crowded when it feels like a more rocky country side place
Not gunna lie thats one of my favs, besides taro i usually get that one (purple looking stuff) XD

Earl grey iced milk tea sounds incredible, especially with boba
I know I never talk here (I'm one of the ones who is super super shy and always worried I'll say the wrong thing so I never talk at all) but I absolutely trust all the Shepps turned mods to look out for the best interests of the server. If I ever got out of line, even though we are friends, I'd absolutely get the smackdown and I respect that.
Mave is great
A level of trust is being placed by the community into the hands of a moderator team. When that trust is broken, it can be incredibly difficult to regain it - as in the case of this community. Removing the sources of that distrust however is a good first step.
yeahh, exactly- or even having to hold both roles at once? i can see that becoming a bit tricky in the future
well the current mods are gonna get chucked innit
yesyesyes
||for sure <333 no worries||
I think itās only fair to be skeptical for the future of moderation given the distrust weāve all experienced at some level or another - myself at least, im going to attempt to offer the hope that things can change
In any community there can and will be bad actors, this can include leadership sometimes unfortunately, but thatās why it is important to vet for the ability to be impartial and fair as much as possible and I have personally seen it being taken into consideration. We are all human with biases and misunderstanding and whatever else affects decision making, but there are definitely some good eggs in this group. Time is needed to demonstrate that though as words and reassurances wonāt mean much until people can see it firsthand but I have seen a handful of the mods in action elsewhere and itās good stuff.
tableleg why did u give me bread . . . i mean thank u but also why
Hey guys! Happy time zone! For the deleted ping of CMs, perhaps we can bring this to Modmail instead, and we will make sure to let CMs know about it. Thank you! 
but for why . . i must know
Who pinged the CMs
Me when I opened up chat and saw milk on everyoneās comments
I think most mods would agree that would be a pretty major issue if modmail was being shared elsewhere and if a concern like that happened I imagine S6 would not hesitate to handle that.
A blue name w/ no words other than the ping, didn't catch the name though
Milk is good for the bones
And the steam page still not saying early acesss
Lol oh the cheating scene is surprisingly nasty
apparently using an overlay that bypasses ingame mechnics and shows realtime spawn locations is up for debate on whether it's cheating or not
you know what it was apparently about time we talked about this again 
thatās good to know that accountability is there!
Ditto
They have way bigger cheating issues then that to worry about.
true, but which one is actively being advertised in this discord? hmmm...
Iām too small brained for cheating
more passive aggressive callbacks to previous conversations yay
but am i passive aggressively calling back to previous conversations by saying that? maybe!
Ah it's that time where palia gets to draw a line between what's an approve add on and what's a cheat, what a fun discussion that'll be
Or they'll bury their heads in the sand about it
I just learned how to add mods to Stardew Valley and Sims 4
My brain power has been peaked
The mod/cc rabbit hole is a dangerous one to fall down. Good luck out there, gamer. 
you do not want to see the size of my mod folders for those two games 
mood . . . .
well goodluck to you guys really, since you will be deciding if it's allowed for people to be posting links to such overlays here in discord, hope we find out an answer soon 
IMO some of the cheats (overlay) are cheats.... But don't effect other players negatively. I wouldn't be surprised if they let people use it but not advertise it here
truly
my cc folders for the sims were a constant mess lol
Mine is now 28 and still a pain
my computer has like 0.5% of storage space now so itās fiiiineeee
Youāre the first one I see when I open the chat so you get my question (I donāt expect an answer rn ofc but just to add to the assumed ālistā)
Will previous rule breaks that were not actioned on by the previous mod team for whatever reason be done so retroactively once you all step in?
That's a really good question. SO GOOD, in fact, that I'm gunna pass it along to the mod/CM team so we may add it to the FAQ. 
Thank you!!
I'm not sure if I should ask, but what's that hole you're talking about?
LOL, sooo... I'm a simmer, and a lot of creators talk about using custom content for like... additional hair, outfits, makeup in game... and if you start going to the tumblr pages where all of the cc lives, you start finding more and more... and more... that you wanna download.
I think there are mods who did the best they could from Team Pond. I appreciate what several of them did. While I'm no stranger to the odd and questionable (bad?) actions that have sometimes taken place, I think there were many good apples. It's sad to see them go and I wish them well.
the "just one more mod" to "this is my 500 mods" pipeline presumably 
And pretty soon, you've been looking at cc for 4 hours.
Think we can all agree weāve seen the previous team be a little too light-handed with actioning things so figured it was worth an ask
Mood, sometimes I've spent more time downloading mods for my Sims than actually playing with them 
Will the mods look more carefully for art thieves in the fan art channels too?? Iāve heard thatās been happening lately.
Oh, so not an actual hole somewhere? That's good.
I haven't allowed myself to start downloading cc or mods, because I'm afraid I'll never stop. š
Sometimes you will spend longer modding the game then you actually spend playing the game. because you find one more mod mid playthrough then you find another, and so On 
and then struggling with multiple tabs of stuff you still want to download 
You will not, I can confirm this. I turn on the blinders at how large my mod folder is, if I do not see it then it doesn't exist.
Though let's not forget the best thing that's happened here lately: no more yacht dude 
Sims CC is so dangerous. Because you download it, and then you download more, and then you can't find what you want, and then suddenly you've learned how to use blender and make your own meshes and content.
That's true, one of my friends had their art sniped once. Sad times
Damn I hope they get called out ):
I didnāt link anything so call me MC Hammer.
āCanāt touch thisā
I remember having to bring up the AI art that was being passed off as real and convinced the old mod team 
Blink twice if you need help.
Yeahā¦me too. š me too.
This is also a friendly reminder to artists to not be afraid to watermark your art that you are posting online š«¶ I'd rather see a watermark than someones art being stolen
I'm beyond help, it's ok. I've accepted it. Just toss some cookies down here occasionally?
USE GLAZE!!!!!!!! (AND NIGHTSHADE)
Use nightshade
Andie glaze is for pottery
This too and that poison thing, I think there's two?? Yes nightshade that's it haha
I ALWAYS FORGET ABOUT NIGHTSHADE 
My donuts would disagree
oh word, i have a friend that happened to just recently :-(
If ya have something to say, please say it ā¤ļø you aināt sly
fair point, I'll allow it
Whatās that supposed to mean?
This is true, but with AI it's getting a lot easier to remove watermarks too
play dumb, thatās cool. Eye emojis are the most basic form of sarcasm
Also use apps like Glaze and Nightshade to āpoisonā AI datasets if your art is stolen, but when watermarking using a social media handle to watermark gets people banned as spam in a lot of places but a nice relatively transparent overlay pattern that ruins the art for merch and knockoffs helps.
i don't know what's going on but i feel like a third wheel somehow
Unfortunately, but hopefully with the advance of ai technology that it becomes easier to prevent their use as well!
already got it shouted out š angel tool
I'm starting to think I'm using eye emojis wrong
Maybe I'm a weirdo, but I kind of love a lot of watermarks artists do, there are some that are so cool

Yeah same. Are they supposed to be sarcastic? š
Wait what they were agreeing with you
definitely not LMFAO

i think there's tea
shaky eyes
They are referencing the art I posted that happened to be similar to another personās despite me having started the sketch prior to the other person posting
How do you know they were referring to you though
I use the to signal like 'I'm invested in this/interested in where it's going ' - I sure hope people didn't think I was mocking them or something
We were? I havenāt heard anything that specific.. strange
Because it was brought up when Iām here and the sarcasm when I agreed with them š
Usually when people do think that way (the mocking), its not your fault, just theirs.
That wasnāt sarcasm?
i think this may be a situation we r not privy to
Table, did you know about this??
yeah, stealing art is a really big issue online these days, especially with ai, very sadge
those ai's be gobbling up everything
I am not a mod, nor shepp, but I am one that brings hydration reminders in friendly sticker form 

That's what it means to me too lol
I too par-take in such liquidated activities
honestly itās harassment at this point to bring stuff up purely cause Iām around and then play dumb, oh well. New mods can handle it im sure.
i use it like this but Also like "i see you, i see what's going on"
this convo feels vry shady
????
I have learned a lot of fun techniques by seeing what other artists do! I hide my initials in the art in some really subtle spots, and often utilize the lower quality version with slightly visible overlay pattern ones but a friend of mine loves to find funny ways to incorporate their persona into it like changing a brand name on a sign to their name or putting their own face avatar as a character in the background, etc.
Stay awesome, Discord
ooh nice!
Yeah Iām just speaking from what Iāve heard from my artist friends. I just thought about the question since there was a mod already in chat answering questions. If you felt called out then thatās on you, pal.
Omg I love this
I think youāre reading too much into this /gen
I understand the clown emote being something that is rude/trolling. But not the eye emoji...
It's from the Soup discord =3
That was sarcasm

As someone who didn't know any context prior -- No one knew it was about you until you said something though and no one knew what you were talking about until you explained.
So I think you were fine, but no one was intentionally targeting you/harassing you over it. They were just speaking about art theft being rampant in general, not a specific case of it.
The people who were doing it knew is the point
Forgot thereās a palia arrow lmao
Yeah I love that they do that. Itās like a whereās Waldo of finding how they snuck their name/face into the art.
i think tho, the ppl who are being shady would just pretend to not know what's going on innit š
I remember we once had a person here that gave out hydration reminders. The fountain person. When they left, I decided to come in and send out hydration reminders 
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Thatās such a cool idea
In the future, I would try to talk to a moderator directly about it happening, instead of bringing more attention to the issue. If baiting you is what they want, then giving it attention will just give them what they want.
@dense quarry you're right!
this is very true!!
I mean if it does then mnt dew should count too.
You can drink your Dr P, but also have a lil glass of water as well
Dw I already have!
Table wasnāt even baiting though, and explicitly said they didnāt even check art channel, just was sharing their thoughts
i think it's in reference to the comment specifically regarding the other person
Yeah it was
Then they shouldnāt have responded to table when having a problem with someone else?
If it's been reported to the mods, I'd leave it at that.
i think it's a Group Situation from what i am seeing
Alright, sorry it was just very misleading
Wonderful! I hope everything works out for you, sorry you felt harassed!
@marble slate sorry I didn't mean to imply they were! That was more in general for future reference if a similar situation were to occur!
Table felt genuine to me imo but that's for them to handle as I'm a third party just putting my 2-cents in 

No worries - itās totally understandable if you donāt know the context
Pop or soda? š
Soda pop
Soda but pop is fun to say!
Coke
It took me way too long to find that emote
What's the difference?
Coke
curse u automod... let me put fifty question marks. . . it's my cute style
Oooooh... there's a "coke" crowd in here. Okay, okay.
It's usually just based on location! Like.. I'm a mid-west person, so I say pop.
Soda (but I had to think about it, I couldn't remember for a second)
mmmm coke
i'm from UK originally in the north, we also say pop!
I also from time to time say "sodie"
i just say soda for all carbonaded drinks tbh
Sometimes I change it up just to mess with people... 
Erm we don't serve coke here, is pepsi okay? 
Oooo! I didn't know they say pop in UK!
I see! So, it's the same stuff?
Softdrinks here, then :-)
I say soda cos my dad would pop me on the arm if I said pop š¤£
Neither I canāt have carbonation š but yeah around here we say soda
yup! at least where i'm from :-D
Pop confuses me so much. It's soda across the board for carbonated drinks for me
Does anyone here just say "soft drink" like on menus lol
I'm scottish. We say fizzy juice
YES
I'll drink it for you, friend.
It's soda until it's like.. sparkling water for me. I just can't call sparkling water soda even though it's technically the same thing.
It would be too weird!
If I have to define a group, yes. I'm not a native english speaker though, that might influence it.
The carbonation destroying me is the best part though 
True the kiddos have said the sprite tastes spicy before 
Mc Donald's sprite hits different, I swear
Wait water is soda too? Learnt something new today.
It wouldn't be seen as the same, here...
The clown juice?
cause its prob starry xD
Not just water but a certain flavored and carbonated version
CLOWN juice?? 
I'm sorry the what now
He should have gone to taco bell and had some baja blast
|| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP4dJuWA6g0 || Warning: Strong language < Clown juice meme
No???? First clown juice and now this? Where have I been, where have YOU guys been??
Water with sugar, flavour, colour and carbonised is it here, too. Just not just carbonised water.
aw shoot. now I want some baja
Saving bc I want to come back to this later, I need the context.
Fair. It's 6 seconds, but yeah.
Same
there's no taco bells near me anymore
Scottish friend agreed and giggled at that but noted ācan eh juiceā works too.
I'm in a loud restaurant so out of abundance of caution I am waiting 
That's a mood ngl
noooo. I'm just too lazy to venture into the outside
mood tbh
ask them if they have a can of ginger
there are so many of those around here, but I've not tried it yet. I have lots of stuff around me, but I'd rather just stay curled up at my desk. 
āNo Iāve got it on ma heed thoā
noted. guess I'll have to give a try sometime 
š my condolences
Well if it helps the sponsorings it's my husband's favorite burger place.
Wonder what the Palia equivalent of fast food would be
A Chapaa running
Muujin
Magic Muujin running from a solo hunter in particular. š
so fast, you can't even see (or find) them!
LOL see I enjoy soloing muujin, even however poorly I manage 
Curious - Anyone found something that looks good hanging in the centre of their harvest house(s)? I'm struggling to find anything that's noticeable when you walk in.
Something in the center of the ceiling that hangs down?
yeah, it's raised so much higher than the support beams, I was hoping any of the chandeliers you can get would be big enough, but they're all quite small. I guess it is because they can also be attached to room roofs. But would be nice to have something specific for those.
Sadly I just logged out so I can't double-check. I'm assuming the banners only go on the walls?
Sadly so
There are bigger chandeliers though i kind of just used the biggest fanciest one i could find lol
It's so hard to raise your hunting skill when things glitch through rocks and hills and end up 50 yards away 
Hmmm it looks like the antler chandolier is kinda short, too.
hassians antler chandelier is cute there, wish it hung lower though 
Yeah and they usually have to have a lil excess space on the sides. I haven't been able to stick them on the pillars of my not-gazebo ( I forgot the name of the new thing, lol )
I feel your pain, but with bugs.
The makeshift chandelier goes pretty low i feel like if i recall
I have a hard time with them too just not /as/ hard
Me but with fishing, it's just so slow for me to level up. It's below 20 while my other skills are 25+
thanks for the advice - maybe they'll bring something nice to go there in the future. I'm close to Hassian level 4, so will put that one there when i get it
The opposite of discord kittens/j
How many chests can you find?
You just a chest tent?
For now
Lol that's so funny
I have 70 chests
That's a lot of chests.
I can't tell if the festive ones are mixed in. Never put one down to figure it out.
Yep those are 6 of them
I trust you, chest expert.
I have a chest tent too š
- best use for them 
Iāve given some chests to Tish. š
noice! 
not me making an excel spreadsheet to figure out which picture frames I do and don't have for my frame feature wall 
Is there a place to post our pets irl ?
try #š¬āoff-topic-chat i'd love to see your babbies!
My kitty fell asleep watching me play
does anyone know why kenyatta wanted knapweed? she was being weird and suspicious about it after i gave it to her lol
Isn't it usually asked for in relation to tea? Like with Chayne and Caleri.
Maybe it's like a mellowing tea
NPCs getting high. Which gives me a funny idea. Do you think Zeki likes catnip? 
idk but the dialogue immediately after giving it to her is like
āwhatās it for? none of your business.ā
i had asked naiāo what gifts kenyatta liked and he mentioned it and said he didnāt know why she wanted it
i thought maybe there was a joke that was going over my head
Kenyatta is pretty private if it doesn't come to how much she wants to shock her mom. But it's possibly a joke xD I wouldn't put it past them. But I'm pretty sure Chayne and Caleri use it like tea leaves, I think.
maybe this?

||yeah it's probably medicinal considering where her story goes when you friend her||
So y'all turn off all the lights in your house before you log off for the night, right?
...now I'm going to have to, does that count
I pretend like my electrical bill doesn't exist 
I mean, don't go complaining about polution washing up on the beach in Bahari if you're not. 
No energy bill in Palia
Escape realism. Transcend rent.
Don't tell Eshe that Kenli isn't charging us rent
Wait, none of you are paying rent to Kenli?
Why have I been bringing him so many sandwiches then?
I'm going to need a smart home assistant to schedule that
You've got a big heart?
And an empty stomache.
So, I just finished Hekla's lvl4 quest... And I DEMAND ||a quest in the future that allows us to create a baby Galdur for her so she can stay with them forever š That way, Jina could also have some freedom while still living with them, and maybe she could help us with it... That'd be awesome, I feel so sad for Hekla...||
Maybe I'm thinking of a Jina quest but ||Isn't that something Hekla tries and can't quite accept the fake baby? I could be waaaay misremembering. Maybe it's part of Jina's romance questline I just got mixed up xD But giving Jina room to breathe was in there somewhere I though.||
Yeah I think ||there are some hints and comments on it in Jina's romance.||
Yeah but we can't compare ||a potato to a fully functional galdur that could speak and interact with her|| haha
Oh, that's true. Maybe ||once we can get flow going! It's not illegal for us
||
That'd be so wholesome š
How do I get the Frogbert? I don't use Steam.
I believe everyone logging in around that date will get one! The steam wishlist just determines the final size
I'd like a little one... So I didn't wishlist >.>
Lore bot continues to be impressive
speaking of which what is it current size atm? still 3x?
yea
That was the last I saw they said yep
no lord supreme, just a lord

Now I wanna see a machinima of the frogbert and tau plushes hosting a sitcom
Frogfeld
i need all the colors.. so i can put them in a circle xD
Goodness, you're boxed in.
hi, am i missing something? why are they switching out the moderation team?
Not missing much! Most of it is covered in the message Ashe posted here: #š¢ācommunity-news message
But what audits and investigations?
That information is stuff that we cannot get into! There were audits and investigations of the current moderation team that's being revamped, effective on the 13th.
The audits and investigations led to Ashe, one of the CMs, needing to make some changes. That's all. c:
Gotcha! okay thank you!
Hello, just dropping a reminder to not share unreleased content in public channels. If you have further clarification or concern, please contact us via ModMail~
Oh, that's new
Wait wut

I must have missed something that got deleted, but. What does that mean re: Paliapedia and linking to there?
Potentially unreleased content with images so I had to delete those. 
Dullahan does good work šš gets star āļø
Puts the ā quality dullabun on my plot
Oh, I didn't know, sorry!
I'm holding you to this
windmill-sized frogbert incoming 
Lil request to the incoming mods, in the faq could we maybe get an overview of how to contact y'all/what mod mail is? This is basically the only server I'm even a little active in so I'm v lost in how all this discord stuff works lol
(Also preferably how modmail works too, like if we just dm it a single message with all the info in it or if we have to send specific info/commands/whatnot first
im not even new to discord but ive literally never seen modmail before this server)
I think we might get something like that on the 13th, once the switchover is official
That's how the old modmail worked. Donno if it'll be the same system. You'd DM modmail with your complaint, click the checkmark emote to confirm it's for Palia, then they send a response message. They might send a follow-up message.
Ahh. I can read, I swear!
i try d to use a few times but it wants a āreactā and idk how to do that xD
that's the little emojis you can attach to others' messages!
Also, @brisk spruce, did you delete your response to me, or am I just losing it? It's been one of those "I just 'napped' for like 5 hours" sorts of days, so I'm both energized and out of it
I deleted it on accident while fixing my mouse but you saw it (since you responded) so I didnt repost it lol
lol
i've only used modmail once or twice myself, i don't know about a phone number but i think it requires some kind of authenticated Discord account. and i believe it's actually a much broader bot (as in it's used for a fair number of servers) so they've had to design it to work that way
i'm sure they'd love to! just a matter of time and know-how
Oh, btw, congrats on the promotion @pulsar meteor!
And, well, a general "god help you" that I extend to any mod team, tbh. It's a thankless job most of the time
Also, more to the discussion, I'd love to see an explicit statement about what (if anything) can be discussed here wrt datamined info. Generally, most folks bringing stuff up post it in spoilers to be respectful to people who don't want to see datamined content, but if it's preferred to not have that sort of thing on the Discord at all, it'd be nice to know
thanks! i've had prior mod experience (and also years of customer service and management jobs irl) so i have some idea what i'm in for, but i've loved this community almost three years now and i'm glad to help it however i can
Yeah, I remember chatting with you a bit during the Alpha
GBW posted a longer message in server-news a while back https://discordapp.com/channels/809856101326913567/854109530966327296/1179196438975098930 with the official stance on it
the shorter form is, they can't approve of it or recognize it officially, but people who aren't harming the game or community with it shouldn't have anything to fear
and yeah that's a bit vague and gray-area, but my understanding is, that's as clear as they're able to be on it
Yeah, I try to throw as many "this may or not be implemented in the future" disclaimers as possible whenever I mention stuff (and really, all I end up mentioning is stuff that you can find on Paliapedia anyhow)
i think they take the harder line on spoiling things they want to be surprises like upcoming NPCs, pictures of unreleased furniture, quest lines and stuff
Yeah, that's valid
...ugh, I still need to write up a report regarding |||the quest chain from the Bahari rummage piles||, because I'm pretty sure it's kinda broken
it kinda is 
||maybe not make it all at once, maybe every palia day or something||
Honestly, I've been able to progress the quest the intended way twice so far. I think (can't confirm) that the piles might have a slight weighting towards quests and furniture
i think that's been a common concern/ complaint about fishing too, chance can be fun but without some kind of weighting or bad-luck protection, it can also be not fun for a significant number
but i know the team's seeing that feedback and i have faith they'll come through on those
I don't mind Bahari piles as much; since they all spawn on the coast, you can just add it to a normal beachcombing routine and grab some oysters or crabs while you're at it
I feel like thatās why they put it down in that area.
I just wish they looked like they do in the picture. At the least, the fabric on them is definitely bugged
The wonderful green of a missing texture XD
I do wish you got ||the recipe for the coffeemaker at the end of that quest chain, instead of just one of the items. What if you really need caffeine?||
Flapjack is gonna need about a dozen.
Definitely quests are weighted highly, non-quest related furniture not so much (well we had the numbers for the Killima piles before some obfuscation)
RNG has been blessing me a lot more with the Flotsam furniture than the Kilima Basket sets... I need those baskets, dangit!
i need those baskets so bad
this entire time i've only managed to get 2 items from the kilima rummage piles set. meanwhile just got my 3rd furniture recipe from the bahari rummage pile today
I love all the Bahari pieces, but I really want that bookshelf. If we ever get wider hallways, I plan to use it with the Ranch House furniture for a cute nautical-themed bathroom
I am confused. Where are you getting all this furniture from. Is it only switch snd steam players getting it???
no, everyone can get it. they're from the rummage piles, although the drop chance is fairly low
Well this doesnāt happen much
So did they up the ancient fish spawn rate or did I get REALLY lucky yesterday catching 3 in half an hour? And 2 of that right after eachother. Not a starred one unfortunately but it was the first time I caught one so not complaining there
On the other hand the rummage piles are only giving me trash materials lol
Anyone have any clue when the soy sauce and muujin meat will be given out?
I believe itās a daily login reward. So when you log in navigate to the news section I think. It should be there or close to.
It's one per week
Imma pass out now. Iāll nudge peeps in case people have more questions about the mod team change announcement.
Thanks, I just found it. I always forget to check the news section š .
Welp . Grove spawned in while Iām alone and the jewelwing dragonfly did too! Yay
So i found the diamond paw to give to zeki and you only get 10 renown. Since in the little chat is says it was Mass produced as a fake. This should have been a cute little housing item. But all we are getting is 10 cheap renown
Sadly, thereās quite a few of those quests with zeki. They are new, and only give renown! Iām already maxed out at 1k again! So once again, renown is getting wasted!
What on earth is a mod cat O.o
A new world order
Most just break it now and move on. With that said⦠itās best to call it out and/or flare. To let people know that itās there and they have a few minutes to get it. It has like a 3 minute despawn timer, before it disappears
S6 is replacing their paid mod team with volunteers
#š¢ācommunity-news message
Ah I have had server news muted since starting.
They have to be seen doing something I guess... nothing happening still so will poke my head in for steam doom-day, o/
meow

Fancier word for discord kitten 
Hi and bye aschefield!
hiya
(obligatory question) When do we get the "rewards" of meat and soy sauce?
I already received mine yesterday. I don't know how long it takes them to push those out (I'd assume it'd be quick and easy to do but what do I know).
If you've not received the first gift yet, completely shut down the Palia app before signing back in again.
I have. I logged in yesterday and again today. Palia was not running ovenright (nothing was).
Oh hmm maybe it does take some time to push them out?
Have you recieved gifts from s6 in the game before and know where the location is for it? Just to clarify
Since some people mistakenly think it would be in mail box at home so i iust wannet to check
you get it once in the news section when you log in per each week period, so twice it seems, but asher said yesterday they were taking in the feedback on the rewards since the ārewardsā are kinda a joke
Fair question and yes. They sent something in Feb. I checked the news/new tab. And, of course, because I just went in to make sure I got the right name, it showed up. š
Ayyy
I was expecting more than 2 soy sauce, that's for sure
: Soy Sauce : <-- pretend that is an emoji
Three, but yeah still
One recipe calls for 4 so like
_<
But at least I can request soy sauce now, if anyone ever has any to share at the time
I fulfilled a request for Soy Sauce a couple days ago. I no longer have enough to be generous with. š¦

I ran to a glitch when I was talking to Naiāo where he had a store. (Tamala also had this glitch ) Any guesses on what they are gonna sell?
Nai'o would sell poop and milk. Tamala would sell magic potions.
Potions for Tamala I agree, but can't we already get Nai'o's stuff from Zeki? I'd guess he sells stuff for keeping animals. Maybe animal food, or so.
Considering Nai'o collects bugs I could see him selling worms.
He does? Auni usually rattles on about bugs to me, but Nai'o is always talking about the ormuus and riffrocs or Kenyatta when I talk to him. Edit: To be fair, I'm not maxxed out on friendship with him and I haven't romanced him, so maybe Nai'o has aspects to him I haven't encountered yet.
screams of trying to level up more faster to friendship 4 with Najuma
you can do it 
This is probably the longest a friendship level has ever taken for me
Almost there but RAJSHSHDBDH I finally want to get to surviors guilt

Maybe glow worms
Najuma's a good kid. I adopted her (in my heart) the moment I met her.
Not really mom for me. More aunt.
But I feel like that's because I have a niece who acts just as impishly impulsive as her. So I'm like. Yup. Totally know how to Aunt this senario
I really miss the noise it made when you repaired your stuff
Just noticed there's more to cook and get.
I remember buying all recipes from Reth, so guess I'm good to go.
I surpassed Hassian in the Chapaa Hunting Arcade game but got no visits until now! Someone knows what's happening?
he doesnāt visit, u need to go talk to him 
(also for the achievements, all recipes are obtainable to get thats why the achievement was added
)
Tks!
I'm kinda new here, so how do u get that Cooking coin besides ur nickname?
You can go to id:customize! In the "customize" section, scroll down to the skills you wanna rep.
Love you, Cinna.
Hehe I was so confused at first when I walked in! And then I was like OH This makes sense
hehe appreciate you
I feel that it seemed like it took so long with her even when it was so close. But you will soon get itš
I had a dream I asked Ashura to be my shepp is that a sign
It is. It's a sign that you play Palia way too much.
no such thing

Anyone else getting this?
Yes, it's known
Known bug. We think the mujin are hiding in those.
Just claimed my "reward". 3 soy sauce definitely feels insufficient. I was hoping they'd offer a full stack. Thats not even enough to make 1 Lucky Braised Fish.
You get 3 more next week
Still not enough though. One recipe require 4 of them
True. 10 would have been better. I never remembered to buy any at the market.
It's not a "reward". It's the devs teasing us.
I didn't buy any on purpose since I figured they'd be for sale lmao
Time to express my disappointment on the feedback in the website

Hiding in shells? Haha
It's spawn points for shells. All muujins disappeared with the patch so it's just a running joke
Oh I see
Same. Me and some friends had wanted to do a cooking party with a lot of the new foods after soy released, and then..... well, 3 is not a lot.
Haha. Like that little game where you switch them around and try to pick the correct one.
Zeki got fed up with the mujin stealing his fish so he stuffed them in the green containers. š
@jessi0208 and I bought quite a bit but it's dwindling now
I started playing after the great muujin extinction I was so confused when someone wanted muujin meat
I'm so tired of these cross-platform bugs. Be aware, if your plot is set to "Friends Only," switch users who are NOT your friends but on the same server can bypass the restrictions and access your plot.
yeah it's a known "bug" too
not sure if it's a bug or not
Awww thats adorable. Its stepmama for me since I am still in the same situation as her with my dad (barely present)
What can I say, aunts are basically secondary parents anyways
FYI this player is using the Switch bug to enter locked/friends-only plots and interrupt cooking parties and mess with other player's gardens. Second time I've caught them uninvited on a plot. (you have to no-entry someone on every individual plot, apparently)
are they like picking weeds? maybe they think they're being helpful
They trolled a cooking party and after being kicked out laughed about it in server chat. It's intentional. Also this person is not friended.
ah when you said mess with gardens i was like in what way haha
that's not garden related 
but i get you now
don't forget to just report them in game
They also attempted to pick weeds from a weed-plot, which is as annoying as moving rocks in Animal Crossing
yes that would be annoying
but that one can be an honest, but annoying, mistake by its self (not with all the other stuff tho
)
There's no way for other people to tell if a plot is truly open or access is through the bug when going to visit a plot tho so not every visitor is automatically a troll. They also might not know about weed plots.
the other stuff is pretty obvious though
Once is a mistake. But it's happened TWICE and then they've laughed about it in server chat.
trolling the cooking party and laughing about it is pretty clear 
we need Signs and Padlocked Fence gates u can't jump over . . . .
That person might be trolling but just saying not everyone is, that's all.
right thats pretty much what i said too
we need this switch bug to be fixed 
Yeah I'm agreeing, its a really rough bug
it would be useful bc then if anyone wanders in, they can only access stuff that's Open
reminds me how in animal crossing you can just make a fence and when you have no visitors you can just remove one fence piece for entry lol
Make us have to manually open doors/gates, and have them lockable. Definitely a good feature suggestion
ya and we can give a "key" to friends (not literally, just give ppl access to our locked areas)
Only editors can unlock doors. doors stay open unless manually shut.
Its such a pain to gather silk 
I consider myself fairly knowledgeable about this game, but learn something new every day. What's a weed plot?
I think its when people purposefully grow weeds for aesthetic reasons
It's a garden plot that you purposely grow weeds onto, either for aesthetic or to keep them off other plots.
if you can make buzzy jars using them in south bahari around pulsewater area is really good
There was a method of cheesing gardening that used to work - you used to be able to sacrifice a few spots to always have weeds because there's a maximum number of weeds. But now it bugs your garden and nothing grows
=O thanks for the tip! I will try!
i do this, there's only an issue if a bunch of weeds are on one plot, so you can let a weed or two grow on something else and it's usually fine
oh interesting! I didn't realize that
i do 6 trees, rows of harvest boosting crops, and a weed plot
and i let a weed grow on one of the harvest boosting crops, and it's been working decent for several weeks :)
I've seen people run right past the bugs that gives silk and then request it later.
The others have answered pretty extensively already but if you are interested in examples or a how to, #š±āgardening is a good place to ask.
I had one person show up on my plot randomly, they startled me something fierce.
They didn't even wave hello to me or anything 
They didnāt even water your plants? Smh what a freeloader
Right!! Just ran around like they owned the place, the disrespect 
i love visiting other peoples homes and helping tem out
Mel plz ur killing us

I don't have any additional info about Palia on steam/EA tag at this time to share, but we'll let the community know as soon as we do. Thank ya'll for being so passionate!
Just buy it at Tish'
It's pretty expensive though
The launch is two weeks away tho I mean that's really not a lot of time to have this addressed
They could just update the launcher and remove "beta" from it. There have been far more buggy games with less content that have claimed to be "released".
Sure they could but if they're still pushing unstable and beta quality updates, that for example remove an entire species from the game, and leave it u addressed for a month, it's not really going to present itself well as a game outside of beta
The game garners a lot of good will and community defense because it's in a beta state, my fear is giving up that good will is going to be reflected in the steam review score
agreed, i wonder if it's just because it goes through so many people that the CMs don't have much power to get an answer quickly
Well that's unfortunately proven true
it stinks because CMs aren't very high up in the ladder at a company so their questions are often left ghosted or "we'll discuss this at a meeting and let you know!" silence
To be clear, I don't blame the CMs, they're just the only people at S6 listening to us
Ah well the steam reviews will speak for themselves I suppose
has there been Talk of Any kind of Major Content Patch in the Pipeline recently?
Correct me if I'm wrong but the only outstanding content we've been promised but not delivered is the ammo pouches?
i mean i wouldn't Really consider that a "Major" Content patch....
And I miss them everyday..
That's all I got for you š«”
Oh I legit forgot that was an option lolol
usually a roadmap would help but I haven't seen an official roadmap. It seems the game is implementing hints to the next Temple which can be a a major content patch
and community activities 
no Talk of a Potential new Profession or a new Area to explore or the 4th Vault/Temple?

Tragic :< i do enjoy this game but my Drive to play is Low atm XD
Player assumptions and expectations say yes, but S6 has not confirmed
i was talking with some players in game how an Alchemy Profession or a Husbandry Profession would be amazing additions
would just keep an eye out on their socials when they post the preview for the next patch, temple should be very soon, new map will probably take a bit longer
but nothing confirmed of course, just a waiting game for now
I want a husbandry profession so badly, I want ormuu's. I have an empty spot in my plot that I'm saving on the hope that we get it one day.
i'm expecting a lot from this game as it has a lot of potential, my question is how long will it be for it to happen XD
Well we've been asking for those same things since closed beta
So... A little longer at least... 
closed beta? how far back we talking?
ive been here since august and i believe open beta started back in july
Spring of 2023?
All i want for content is more things to spend renown on OR remove the renown cap so I can play again without missing out on a lot of renown
Did you buy all the roofs?
Jep
Capped out on everything that requires renown XD?
Bought every single thing there is with renown and almost capped out now. So if I make any more renown I will lose that, and I dont want to do that only for there to be new things added in the future to buy with renown which I then wont have enough for and have to painfully grind it by gifting people stuff
Daaamn
that sounds like an Increbile endeaver you went through XD
Been playing since open beta release on pc btw sooo
Feels like yesterday tho hahaha.
Open beta started August 10th
I rly don't want to know how many renown I've thrown into the void bcs of the cap
but there will probably always be a renown abundance with them adding new achievements and other ways to earn renown
(but the cap should just be removed lol)
I'm confused why we're still suggesting the game may still be in beta - if it is, isn't that a violation in the switch store?
Its just... how can I be sure of that? They only added 2 new achievements last update... and tons of new roofs and stuff.
No, the game is still in beta since it's not on v 1.0
Wouldnt that be really weird tho since its the same version?
then i guess it is in Beta for both platforms then XD
OK I have 355 regrown but I bought every rooftop in city max out my Exp and focus
wat supposed do this 355 regrown that I have
And probably threw thousands of renown into the void
We need to get rid of the renown cap!!
i want more Farming Plots :<
not yet not yet,i capped right when they released new stuff, dumped it all down to 0 then capped again
And that too!
I guess, but unless I was told wrong info that's not allowed on the switch...
my apple tree Orchard isn't coming together Very well v_v
They'll have to add more if they want to add more crops
and my character lvl 300
Lets be silent about it then, because I need to be able to do my farming in bed on my switch okay
or if they don't add more farm plots for game balancing, then at least flower gardens for aesthetic
this is a mood lol
i mean would just mean they need to update to 1.0 Asap XD
It very much is my friend ā”
keep in mind that more soils will also come with nerfs/rebalancing to crops, seeds and preserves
so I don't mind waiting for more, I'm fine with my 9 soils and 20-30k a day depending on how active I am
20-30k?!
Renown caps at 1000 so for now youre fine. Just have to wait until they add new things to spend the renown on, nothing else now š
You mean 20-30k when you preserve everything I guess?
yeah every 12 hours on my newbie account I've made around 16k
so in 24 hours thats 32k? from worm farms/preserves/seeds
Believe it or not but I still need all my glow worms because that damn giant kilima stingray is a myth
I also don't make much from glowworm farms cuz I use all the speedygro fert on my farm 
I've said this before, and I'll say it again now.
Having a garden plot limit when you already have such a low gold cap is dumb.
After a certain point gold is meaning less in this game. I've spent 10 Million gold total in this game. All of it rather pointless crap to avoid hitting the cap. I'm running out of things to buy with my gold.
I have all the plots, I have countless buildings (most all unused). I've bought hundreds of Zeki coins, currently hoarding about 300 of them.
There shouldn't be any worry that players are going to make too much gold if they have 20+ garden plots if all the gold they get from it is rather worthless in the end game.
yeah mostly, and things that yield more as seeds produced to seeds, so.... potatoes
and rice, I still use a very old cake party layout from september, yields a good amount of money, and a good source for focus food so blueberry jams
Nice! I have an 'everything' garden so not really optimized as for money, but just so I always have everything on hand for cooking. And all excess I turn into preserves. Should look into if I could make more money as seeds then preseved with certain things tho. Never really cared enough to do so hahah.
as far as I know, only bok choy and potatoes are best as seeds (but I use potatoes to pickle for regular worm farms)
wheat/rice/(starred) cotton also best as seeds
Ive been using wheat and rice for my worm farms, without really thinking about it. And cotton I turn into cloth to sell. Is that a dumb thing to do? Never really focussed on this. Just running around like my ADHD tells me to and romancing every single person hahahaha
starred cotton loses value as fabric, as there's no such thing as starred fabric. regular cotton is better as fabric though
I feel like i should have known this hahaha. Almost all my cotton is starred
So good to know, thankss
Doesn't Bok Choy pickle into kimchi, too? You need that for a recipe or two iirc
Yeah it does, but I always keep like 2 or 3 of everything for that reason
yes it does! I keep a stack of kimchi in my storage. as kimchi though, it increases 1 bok choy by 50%, while turning 1 bok choy into seeds increases the value by 100%
This is good stuff to know
bok choy does take 1 hour 40 mins to turn into seeds though, so definitely a "go to bed and come back tomorrow to money" crop
which is fine by me because I'm busy with other irl stuff but can still be making good money when I log in 
Yeahh thats fine for me too since I can only play for 2-3 hours in the evening for now. Thanks for all the advice! Im off to bed. Night night ā”
Gnight!
Trying to get a community organized in Palia is really hard. Or, is for me. Relatively new player, 170 or so level etc. But I'd like to get a group to do stuff with - fish, events, egg hunts etc. But it's hard to tell like who is online vs. never online in community page. Any advice from other players who have more active communities? This isn't an ad, just to be clear - just looking for general advice.
Im an admin in a Palia community. When you find a community, here are 3 questions you can ask: what times and days are you guys most active? What kind of parties do you host? How big is your community? Hope you can find a place you feel like you belong š
Could always make one yourself too! find people who are on the same time you are, figure out what kind of parties you wanna throw and how big you wanna be!
Thank you! Both!
I love Palia but I miss the feeling of community like in other MMOs with raids or dungeons. I don't have to do that content, but it is fun to get in groups and just mess around and do fun stuff
They didn't put any effort into the community side of the game, sadly
I just read the new moderator intros, and is it okay to ask if some of them are AI's? A few of them sound like AI and I know some servers use moderators (not just bots). I'm not against AI, just curious.
That's a strange thought I hadn't considered. I would think it would be legally required to disclose if your community based services are performed by AI, but laws are kind of sloggy.
Communities definitely need work. Right now, there's really no benefit to being in one that you can't do with the friends list.
I wish they'd work on them a lil bit more.
I'd be happy just being able to change the message lol
I think maybe another way to look at it is maybe they aren't AI, but they have a hard time writing? I could see someone using like an AI bot to help them write up an intro
IDK, I don't think it's an insult. Maybe it's just me, an overly complex human being who can't imagine being uniformly, unfailingly, eager and friendly. But it's more like one of those, you know it when you see it? Like when the photos of Princess Kate came out, and I mean before there was any kerfuffle, before I saw another thing, I thought, something about the photo doesn't look right, but I couldn't put my finger on it. And the next day, all the fuss. So saying someone sounds like AI isn't implying a burn, but maybe even, "you seem a little too perfect" and photoshopped?
if you mean mine, i've been working in the corporate world for over a decade and that tends to Do Things to a person š but to my knowledge we're all real people!
I think that's why I liked the Palia NPCs, they weren't perfect, they have issues.
I'm probably not much help for this conversation, I go to bed terrified at the advancement of AI and the inevitable uselessness of human talent in the face of an infinite amount of data and knowledge that can be drawn upon in a mere second.
IKR?! My daughter was thinking of going into graphic art, taking all the classes, and whatnot, but now AI can make an excellent piece of work upon command. So now she's thinking of going into environmental science because no one's figured out that yet, lol.
might also stem from the anxiety of 'how do I introduce myself to 300,000 pairs of eyeballs at once'
Well, I think you did well Evan!!!
I don't think you are a robot. But even if you are, think about how much people want to romance Einar. We love robots around here!
Anxiety is cool and understandable, in humans and even AI! I love Murderbot (Martha Wells sci fi series)! Don't knock anxiety in AI!
i will never, ever ever, knock anxiety in anyone or anything. it's absolutely a thing
I have social anxiety myself (comfirmed introvert). Thank goodness for online communities!
my anxiety is pretty horrible 
if i do anything wrong by anyone it'll keep me up at 3 am for the next 10 years
What is going to happen with our current mods in green?
I doubt we'll get much of an answer for that lol. But they're being replaced for w/e reason. I am sure if we aren't supposed to be replaced someone will let me know, but that's what I got from the post
Only 10? Amateurs. As you get older, you naturally sleep badly anyway so you can stay up worrying even longer. I have many decades to contemplate.š
It's amazing how much self-loathing you can fit in if you just stop sleeping.
(Don't do that)
there'll be more specific details and answers tomorrow(i believe), but they'll just step back from moderation duties from what's been said. some of them have been around as long as I have and hopefully will still be here playing with us ā¤ļø
I see...
I hope that Dulla sticks around, he has been amazing as a mod
Being a mod is extremely hard, and even harder to remain engaged over a long period of time. I've done it, it's a lot of being told you are doing everything wrong by a community for decisions that you have nothing to do with or have no engagement in. This community is.. mostly a lot better about that than a lot of others, but it still happens and I see it every day.
Or I should say, that's how I see things and what I've experienced.
I used to be a mod few years back for a minecraft server that is also catered to 13+. It indeed can be difficult to defuse situations sometimes or have the everyday person calling someone a mod abuser... it can get rough to deal with
as someone who is both an artist and aiming to be a pen tester, ur daughter will face AI wherever she goes! tell her to follow what feels right, bc AI is going to become extremely regulated in time, esp when it comes to generative AI
unfortunately everyones just going to have to learn to use it to their advantage, whatever that is
Thank you, I will pass that on to her!
ofc!! also, and again i am aiming Professionally to be a pen tester, computers are wicked smart, but they're Really Dumb too. AI ultimately cannot replace human ingenuity, and can only know what it is Taught
What is a pen tester?
basically, someone who works in computer science to help check if people's security software is functioning correctly - not like a Technician, but someone who works with the code!
Aw, I was hoping it was a technician who comes to your house and makes sure all your ballpoint pens are still writing so you never reach for one and experience the ultimate disappointment when you want to write down a cool lyric.
I do love reading sci fi books that feature AI as main characters because I wonder what it will be like if AI becomes "sentient."
i'm gomen simkin . . . . 
oh big agree!!! i have a friend who is . Extremely Passionate about the notion of sentient AI and what that legally means etc
Unrelated but I like ur Phel icon
i mod for a few bedrock realms and i agree. there are some circumstances where as a mod you can't win no matter what choice you make.
I would be willing to be a pen tester for some place like Jet Pens or Goulet Pens or Yoseka, or Goldspot . . . .
it's better than the full name of the title . . . š
What would you write during the tests?
Well I might as well test all of their lovely inks too, so something related to the properties of said pens and ink.
i was summoned
hello swede . . . sentient AI . . . your wheelhouse . .
my hyperfixation...
I'm working with AI right now, I wish it was sentient. It annoys me how many times I have to restate to it the confines of the task is been trained to do because ummm just forgets for some reason
LMAO it has ADHD probably . . . do u think AI ppl would get ADHD from their engineers . ..
Oops, my bad, it got it from me. I taught my ai child wrong š
do u think if we trained AI ppl's brains on our brains they would get learning difficulties like us . .. .
That would explain so much lol
Copier AI's are already passive aggressive.
I mean, AI models are arguably getting 'learning' difficulties already, as we're getting so much AI content now that the AI models themselves are using it as training data
Like a copy of a copy
Not like any of what we have now is really 'AI', but that's what stuck, so...
Except every time it gets hard to read right
ya it's more like idk, intuitive regurgitation?
Yep, and over time influences what the model 'knows' to be reality
I frequently gas light my ai
yup - which is why ppl shouldn't be worrying too much about AI taking over jobs like wildfire, as AI still needs human input and parameters. i suspect over the next 10 yrs we will have a lot more legal restrictions put on generative AI too
It's no wonder Its getting dumber....
Worth noting for artists specifically, consider protecting your work with Glaze and Nightshade to poison the datasets
That's where the problem is personally for me, we talk about restrictive legislations to reduce the effect of "AI" (Or if you prefer - maches and programming replacing human functionality) like the entire goal isn't to reduce or minimize payments out to human workers to increase profits for a company. Not quite politics, I think in line with the convo because there's a history and pattern. We'll have to see where it's going, but I'm not so hopeful legal legislation will protect human jobs lol
So, in Facebook/Meta, there are AI bots that flirt with older ladies with horribly droll pickup lines, to try to get them to friend them. I know because it's happened repeatedly to my mother. They are programmed to do this. My mother knows what is happening, but apparently enough people don't to make it worthwhile?
Yes, that is the case. Or not just AI, but in general any scam. They're always out there trying to get your jibbles.
Gosh does anyone remember "AI" chat programs way back when where it was just a program sticking two real people in a chat and telling the other one that it was an AI partner
oh for sure, we are going to still see major job loss - but i don't think it will be in Creative Fields, which is i think what was mentioned previously
i also think we can expect AI to be woven into jobs inherently too, such as animation on a more widespread basis than it already is
I think that may be true, I wasn't thinking about it before but really any creative business that was unions or the like (Like the Screenwriters guild) might be just fine
Hmm, what would Hekla and Einar think? Got to circle back around in case we're kicked to off-topic.
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good Point š
If you can't catch it in a pond I don't think Einar is going to care much lol
einar would do a sick ollie and say "tubular" and then skate away /j
He would would hope all AI and humans find their oneness.
Honestly, I how Hekla and Einar are written, because when you read into their stories enough, they're a study in contrasts between ||being restricted by their programming/having true free will||
TBH The closest I've ever been to oneness is probably legit fishing.
fishing is rly nice and super relaxing!!!
World of warcraft botters are now using ai to reply to messages to appear more human
yes i seen that in wrath classic, thought it was so strange
When can we get our own Ormuu? Like I know we can't now. But I want to raise an Ormuu. Harvest my own milk š„
@red wind me tooooo
Give the animal raising skill to Delia. I think I have a really good idea here. Palia hire me
Animal husbandry expansion when?
The only thing close to lose my mind is fishing lol missing 2 fish for the regular one and 10 for the stars š š¤© āØļø š
Right? I need a chappa pen. Mostly to annoy Hassian whenever he visits.

me, thinking about how to make my work...less work
I believe every item we get should be placeable. I have a proudhorn antler that I want to put on display. Also, all the gems and crystals
The gems are placeable, it just needs to be star quality
crying
omg thank you! š
I hope we can put jam down one day, I want to put jam jars in my kitchen
They would make such awesome kitchen decor 
Why wonāt it let me place another room?
Can't place a large room on a diagonal to the harvest house
Thanks
Ok but consider -- stackable placeable jam š
That would truly be a dream come true
I wanted that for the small barrel decor, so I could stack them like a pyramid lolol
I think a demon possessed Subira and is trying to get me too...
But, can you add a hallway and THEN the large room? 
Just chilling with my bud
thats super cute
That I why we should have our own
I know right! . I was like š¤ can I get up there
Yo, how is there still no fix for the damn oven bug?
It even got a little worse for me since pressing H no longer unsticks me 
My friend told me that it's possible that there's items that are too near your cooking station that's causing the glitch tho, so it might help to rearrange your kitchen to not be so close together
It just doesn't look aestheticā¢ļø to me to have all my stations with a gap between them, so I willingly suffer for aesthetics
So you guys think there will ever be a ranching skill? or maybe we can tack it on to the gardening skill
I'm hoping so, there's space on my plot for a barn and coop and it's a staple of farming games
It's been a bug for a long time, there's no excuse for it not being fixed yet. It's been at least.. how long ago was the fountain thievery arc for the game? Almost a year now?
Also hoping for flour via windmill since we already have windmills 
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While I tend to use it as a farming sim Palia is more of a Life sim and I understand it not being there. I just think the yaks are so cute.
That is true, farming isn't the biggest focus in palia... still would be nice to produce my own milk eggs and butter
I still say we need more farming plots. The ones we have just aren't enough.
I'd love some flowerbeds too 
Especially considering trees take up an entire damn plot.
Hoeing is very annoying rn but I?? Kind of like that. Its like. more engaging even though it takes a good while
Why dont I just go play an actual farming sim? I dont know. I have plenty but i admire Palia's charm.
I like that I can read that in two ways and it makes sense in both 
I like palia too, haven't been able to play much today so I'm just looking at palia housing designs
Palia's gardening is so incredibly satisfying to me, best system i've ever used and it hooked me from the start. i too would love more garden plots and a flock of pekis to tell heartwarming stories about
I'd be down for more garden space for sure.
Imagine if you can shave ormuu and put their fur in the loom
I just wanna have a worm farm with my giant metal husband. plenty of food for peckish pekis
I tried giving worms to Einar and he hated them 
I support this if I get to sell textiles to Jel
But I thought einar likes fishing! Why does he hate my worm friends 
I love when a villiger asks for something and you bring it to them but it rolled over to the next cycle like two minutes before so they hate you now
Not me crying because kenyatta said she thinks spice sprouts are great for medicine and then told me to have more taste when I offer one to her
It's definitely entitled brat energy. "I wanted this YESTERDAY, NOT TODAY. YOU ARE NOW MY MORTAL ENEMY!" 
It's irksome when you're trying to gift something to hekla and she hits you with the "i have no need for useless trinkets" multiple times, then when you finally gift her something she likes, she hits you with a "thanks! I'll put it with my trinkets". Like girl š
Whose room? Could be Najumas mom, one of Reth/Tish parents, Ashura's wife Sabine
In lighthouse up in the loft in the room on the left
Maybe the lighthouse keepers wife
Looks like a young Eshe to me.
Maybe..not sure who was the lighthouse keeper
Ohhh
How do u get up there??
Go to lighthouse main entrance turn left into the room and climb up
oh how i desperately wish Pebbled Plunder had a visual count like the rest of the collectable type achievements
The pebble i thought was my final pebble was in fact, not. Which one am i missing? Dunno :')
I feel this. I have no idea which one Im missing...
Oh I have a look the next time I'm there. Didn't realize, that I can climb up there
Idk if this is better or worse to know but, even if it was definitely your final pebble the achievement hasn't been triggering anyway 
Here the same. I don't really know whats missing. The only pepple I can't remember is the one from clay
Itās not Najumas mom as she also had red fiery hair like Najuma does.
Looks like a younger Subine
That's my guess
I have never noticed those pictures. I really need to pay attention more.
O H š does Einar say anything at all about it if you give them all or is it solely just from the achievement if it were to pop.
I think there's an identical portrait in Tish's house/room but I have yet to verify. Could be Tish/Reth's mum?

I'll load up in a sec and go investigate. Need a break from editing words.
Here we go. It's in Tish's living room.
ahhh then probably her mom
The candles there are kinda telling. But this raises a question about the abandoned artist loft in the lighthouse. Who's the artist?
Wasn't Reth the one that gets a lot of flack for changing his Path? From the family business of Furniture Making -> Cooking
Maybe he was painting furniture 
I'm such a big fan of lil' details like that. I've been lurking, watching y'all discuss. š
How are their paths chosen? Because I know that when Hassain was a kid his was not already chosen. And Assuraās son chose his path as a soldier. Did Reth choose furniture making to please his parents but then hated it that that he quit?
It seems from lore that they choose their own Path. Eg ||Kenyatta's entire friendship questline about helping her pick hers despite her mom wanting her to following the family with Politics||. Reth probably chose it to appease his parents and then quit. Choosing your path is šš¼ but leaving your Path is a huge majiri taboo
Yeah that's what I remember, choosing your own is one thing but going back on your choice afterwards is very much frowned upon
There are others who need to choose their path too. Like ||Auni who doesn't want to be a farmer, and wanted to join the order. Despite Subira saying that he's too old since Order members join at a really young age||
Auni also explains that you choose a path once a majiri becomes an adult, that's why hassian didn't have one as a kid
And then in ||Ashura's friendship quests you learn that to become a soldier it's tradition to get permission from a parental figure.|| Then ||Ashura didn't want his son killed in combat so he refused his son, so his son went around him and got permission from his grandpa (Ashura's father)||
Is that a general thing or a "well you're still young" thing?
As in, if a 30-year-old would declare their path then would that still be the case? Or are there no pathless 30-year-olds?
Honestly don't know if it's known. It'd probably be akin to irl though of society viewing an unemployed person.
Good point, I'd say. Not impossible, but certainly not the best option...
Did elouisa ever declare a path or is she one of those unemployed persons in palia
If she never declared a path its nice that practically no one brings it up LOL
I heard somewhere she's somewhere around information storing/museums/etc, but I'm not entirely sure where I heard that so no clue if it's true, might also be someone who said it's their theory.
it's prolly something along the lines of everyone knows she's kinda not right in the head and therefore it's not really brought up
why would Elouisa not have chosen a path though? she went to school with Caleri and Caleri calls her an "aspiring museum curator" in one of her relatively early dialogs
I imagine she went for some type of scholarly path as well (not sure how specific these are exactly)
I know elouisa said ||since she was the older child, she was supposed to take over the family path...but because her parents lost faith in her due to her eccentricities, caleri instead had to declare it in her place and elouisa has always felt bad about it||
I personally think elouisa running a museum would be amazing for her
But like ripleys believe it or not museum, not a fancy museum LOL
would love that
Paths and who picks which and families seems to be really messed up, in Palia... Though, I think Caleri seems to be happy with her library, and (in my personal opinion) she's a little overly rigid but I think the better choice than Elouisa. Elouisa is too... not sure how to phrase it, I think she'd be bored spending all day in a library.
Agreed, she wouldn't be happy, the same way kenli and reth weren't happy
I could totally see Elouisa have some kind of museum though, it just would have to be more... chaotic? Lively? energetic? Not sure how to explain...
||We need a space dedicated to mystery⦠perhaps a shack of some sortā¦||
Direct quote from Elouisa, ||let's go with The Mystery Shack||
That'd be fun!
just got reminded of gravity falls
fr fr i just never put that together, i must have missed reading it

Anyone know where we are on frogbert dominion?
Though, I'm not sure Jina and Elouisa would agree on what information to put there... Elouisa has so many chaotic theories...
Yea I was wondering esp since we are getting closer to the date and they just put out that meme
Funny you mention it, I heard the same theory maybe an hour ago, in the headcannons lore chat... From what I've understood there, baymax seems to be some kind of nurse robot, I think Hekla would by far prefer looking after one person for a long time, she seems to get attached to someone and want to look after them...
Sounds like a fun theme, good luck with it!
||Older sister? By like what, 3 minutes? They're twins
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have you met twins? whoever is born first even by like 10 seconds flaunts that they're the older one
This is fair 
Block report, do a hard block in chat /block (userName) than they will not here user call outs on groves
Is the assignable roles not available on mobile discord? I don't have the most up to date version cause it isn't built for my phone
id:customize are you able to click it if it's linked like this maybe?
I don't see a link
dang, it might be incompatible then 
That's stupid. It should be since its still discord, just on a phone
The current mobile version has it on the very bottom, the previous ones had it on the top above all the channels
normally that channel link should show up on mobile too, I've seen it myself
And I also have changed roles myself on mobile before too
so not sure what the problem is
though mobile can also generally be awful and buggy because discord never learns
Feelin lucky
the issue isn't that it's mobile discord - the issue is it's out of date. it's probably pretty far out of date at this point for that section to not show up, but that can happen when they give up updating on older devices
logging in with a mobile browser (one that lets you see the desktop version of the site) and using that would probably work though
you may also b able to ask a mod to assign ur roles!
Hodaddy is speachless to see me today it seems
Too bad I got stuck like this and had to force quit lol
I admit, I did disturb his beauty sleep
About the ||bugged signet quest chain||, does it take an irl day for the next item to appear ||on the beach|| or should I be able to find it immediately after handing it in?
||i found them right away||
Hmm okay thanks! ||cant find the third one anywhere||
Ohhh thanks! I just shut down for tonight, will check this out tomorrow!!
I found 2 starred rubies and 3 sapphires. Lucky day
And yes thats the one I mean. Didnt know they had fixed places
Lucky! I have yet to find something else starred then a quartz
2 star rubies, you should go buy a lottery ticket 
Ikrr, now I can go buy another room with these ores
This equals to if you ever found 100 bucks on the ground
I save all my starstones. I feel like the earthtemple will require them
Hmm possibly, I don't have that kind of storage rn and I rlly like to decorate and have a lot of room (to get rid off most ores in my storage)
There is never enough storage honestly hahah. But I wont let them fool me anymore.
Hahaa, idk why but people flaring is super helpful and every day circling every part of Bahari xD
Didnt mean the star quality no, I never get those hahahaha
Those pals... they will be devoured
I save 10 of each just in case hahaha
10 0-0??
Girlll you can be rich if you sold them one day hahaha, for about... 3 seconds until you buy
Yeah so 10 citrines, 10 quartz, 10 sapphires etc. And I would save all my starred ones if I ever got them..
Omggg
I will be rich the day the earth Temple comes out hahaha. Only then will I dare to sell
Fair fair
Finally!
Hmmmmm but I like levelling regardless hahah
Skill medals too
Nice!! Congratz
One hard earned trophy
From experience, I can say that leveling bug catching is the absolute worst of them all.
Absolutely
Jep. Hate it with every fiber in my bones
Nice mining level tho

What about turning lvl 50 for the achievement?
I was gonna say that!!! Hahahaha. But I didnt wanna get people mad
Tbh I dont really care if doing something has a 'good reason'. Im a completionist hoarder for one and I like seeing the numbers go up regardless. Thats the beauty of Palia, we can all chill and enjoy our own way š
I want all the clutter!!
So after you finish leveling up your friendships and finished the available quests, the game is really only about acquiring stuff and decorating your plot? I'm not interested in the romance aspect.
yeah, pmuch
Yeah, romancing does ||give you extra quests tho||. But besides that you're right, that is untill they add more quests and content ofcourse.
Iām sorry I just jumped on for the first time in a few hours and spit my drink when I saw your levels 𤣠stares at my barely in the low teens level everything


Ah, perfect time to go to sleep hehe
(well, soon anyways)
/suplexes you into bed.sleeeep
(also whoops had the wrong thing on my clipboard when I was editing LMAO)
(thank god it was just part of the FAQ and not something more nefarious--)
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I will. Just making sure i read up on a few things, that's all 
Mavebrick mod cat
I managed to sneak in. They don't suspect a thing šµļø
Meowderators
Considering the level of unhinged I'm currently being in another server, I probably would have gotten the inaugural mod bonk here 
"and the award for first message nuked by the new mod team goes toooooo"
someone's gotta get first place

Two questions . Does it make a difference in the quest ādevice in handā does it make a difference if I hide it or just give it to zeki? Also where do I get speedgrow ?
Dang that will take a while
Iām doing the quest give delaia 25 of it
So howās the Palia experience? Also whoās watching that Love is Blind reunion???
Whatās March 25
Steam release
Also waffle day
We've got a bunch of days dedicated to food lol
The crisis of soy sauce and muujin meat supply continues 
Oh so we are gonna review bomb it!!!
Where is the justice in this world????
"Will I be allowed to raise something retroactively for the new mod team to action on?
The team has made the decision not to. The moderation coverage will begin as of now and ongoing. As always, please raise concerns via ModMail!"
so wait does this mean we cant report things that happened today?
not that i need/want to, just want to clarify
today is probably safe at a bet
otherwise there would be no way of sorting it out i think... you could always shoot a modmail tho to check ig??
Hey! Good question.
All it means is that anything the previous mod team decided on can't be reversed. If you wanna report something that happened a couple weeks ago, that hasn't been reported yet, you definitely can... and you can also report things that happened today, yes. ā¤ļø
I might've over-explained, but juuuuust to clarify.
This is a very good clarification, thank you
OHHH wait that makes soooo much more sense thanks <33 like this isnt a whole reinventing of the system where u have to go back over every case and say "no the modteam were doodooheads here."
i thought it meant that u couldnt report any behavior that happened prior to the change in modteams, even behaviors that hadnt yet been reported (if that makes sense)
Ooooh, I see. Modmail still exists and we'll be reviewing reports through that system. 
We just mentioned that point in the FAQ because I think people were wondering about decisions made with the old mod team, and if those decisions could be undone... but that would be virtually impossible and hard to do.
Doesn't mean you can't put in another report for ongoing issues, though! You certainly can.
This seems like a strangely specific thing, why does this even need to be said
If someone posted a nasty picture last night no one noticed I'm sure you're gonna remove it when it's reported today lol like what is the circumstance this is even referring too
It was a question that was brought up when we initially announced the upcoming switch, and there was a good deal of conversation around it... can't hurt to include it in the FAQ if people are asking.
it makes sense that its about not acting retroactively tho, like if the old mod team decided to ban x person and they have a bunch of people appealing now its probably easier to just make a blanket statement
If there was enough of a problem with the old mod team they had to be removed It might be ideal to look into those things if they come up
i wouldve loved the issue i brought up about modmail remaining private to the admins, mods, and discord to be stated in the faq but i understand ur not the one who wrote it
Frfr
thats fair, tbh. especially in the vice versa case of someone not being banned and ppl wanting them to š
Someone posted here implying they knew the specifics of a mod mail report against them and I've been haunted by that ever since... Like what
Can you explain what you mean? Like... you wanted it addressed that modmail reports will be kept confidential, and if you ever find out that they're not... additional action can be taken?
It's fair to be concerned about that. Point blank, it shouldn't have happened - we're super committed to making sure it never happens again. Trust is hard to gain back, but we'll work on it. c:
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yes, basically. i want that stated out loud so it's not just assumed, yk? like obviously (i assume its obvious to you as well!) it should just be true, but i'd like it stated so we're all on the same page, mostly, you know?
i hope that makes sense i am v sleepy
It makes sense, I hear yah. I'll pass along the feedback.
Get some SLEEP.
ty <33 and i will but its 7pm... too late to nap to early to go to bed sigh
Ohhhh... 
Thanks for saying something because I'm hungry... and I didn't realize it was dinner time.. š
mannn I feel that, I'm sleepy but it's too late for a nap
so the achieve Housing Slots II says unlock 3 housing slots. I have 4 plots right now, how is that not 3 unlocked? such an absurd amount of gold needed to unlock the gazebo
it gives you 2 plots for free, iirc the achievement is for unlocking 3 in addition to the free ones
i think that's what i had to do for it too, yeah
yes you need to buy three. 50k, 75k, 100k
ty two for confirming
wasn't sure if anyone was going to respond so I figured I'd give what I thooought was the right reasoning 
and thank you, for taking a try at helping even then 
What is this?
bug from the most recent patch - placeholder for a forage spawn point that's supposed to be invisible to us
It's my most favoritest bug
prolly meant to reflect spawn points for shells and such
I hope they memorialize it in the form of a decor item or something tbh
im actually going to miss it haha
Same I love it so much ahhaah
like... how many of you are aware of FFXIV's polygonal grapes

Anyone knows what are the hrs difference between evening and night in palia, trying to catch some fish
i believe 6am to 6pm in game is daytime
Yeah, but im confused with evening vs night
i think it's 6p to 9p is evening and 3a to 6a is morning, but i don't fish much so i'm not positive
I think 3am to 6am is dawn
Awesome, thank you ā¤ļø
DID I HEAR LOW POLY GRAPES
I was waiting for Relika 
the Relsignal took a bit for me to spot but
all one needs to do is mention FFXIV or Alan Wake and I'm like šāāļø šØ
crazy how accurate that is 
The brainrots run deep, what can I say
XIV ā¤ļø
Brosephs, could you please make the "friends" security setting actually only allow friends? Almost had a heart attack because some rando was running around my lot.
Tell them to water your plants as payment
It's the fountain thieves, i tell ya, they're still sneakin' around, lookin' for more fountains to steal.
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I have no context as to why this birding discord has this sticker, but the moment I saw it I knew one day I'd have no choice to share it ehre 
I'm glad you did 
oh thanks for answering my question about the housing slots achieve. I lost my own message lol. guess I start saving gold just so I can unlock all my achieves
Hello ! Does anyone know if there is a way to actually increase the chance to catch the Void Ray, Unicorn Fish, and Giant Ray ? I've been fishing almost exllusively for hours up on hours for a wekk now and even after googling the exact times and locations, Having no luck.
it really is just random, only thing to help catch it would be hooks/meals, maybe a fishing buff from another to increase speed you catch fishes




