💬│palia-discussions

[bitter shell]

Anybody else catch this Lord of the Rings reference?

[humble knot]

are there any plans for more social-styled content to fulfill an "end-game" styled gameplay loop that anyone knows of? The game is fantastic but it seems like it lacks a satisfying hook other than the decoration after 20 or 30 hours

[vagrant star]

I'm sure Singularity 6 has some plans for additional content, I don't know which exactly though. There's a fourth temple that was mentioned, though.
As far as I know, Palia is still considered beta by S6, so I guess that's part of what we're seeing there, with the not-yet-complete story, too.

[polar elbow]

honestly I'm not so sure about that, given that their steam page does NOT mention early access anywhere and they scrubbed the beta label from pretty much everywhere but the PC version's login screen

[vagrant star]

I'd have assumed they'd announc it being non-beta... I have to admit that you're right about the beta references being rare, though. I get there not being any on Switch, Nintendo does not like to publish betas to everyone, so I always assumed that was the case why I don't see it and that on PC it's still officially beta.

[polar elbow]

I feel like scrubbing the beta label from the switch version is.... dishonest, tbh, if it is still a beta. People deserve to be aware of what they're playing into, or, if they want cosmetics, paying into.
On the other hand, If it's no longer in beta, and S6 just failed to announce it, why does it still say "beta" on the PC login screen?
It just feels.... not right, tbh. I really wish they'd actually say something about it. :/

[vagrant star]

I think with the Switch, it was either "not publically available on Switch" or "not considered beta on Switch"... At least that seems to be the path Nintendo takes with stuff that goes on Switch.

[cosmic oak]

hot take: This game was never actually in beta and was a full release

[polar elbow]

I mean, it has been treated like a full release, yeah. Paid cosmetics and all.
"beta" just feels like a convenient shield against criticism sometimes lmao, I can't even begin to count how many times I've criticized something and people basically say "it's beta, be patient" or "of course it has bugs, it's beta" or something similar

[polar elbow]

back to that mention of a "lack of satisfying hook other than decoration"....
I have... doubts, tbh. As someone who loves collecting and showing off achievements, but doesn't care much for home decor... I feel like there's nothing to pursue. Everything I could want to pursue got hit with the "this category of item is monetized" thing lmao

[humble knot]

yeah most people have a hard time understanding two things can be true at once. You can be sympathetic to it being in development and still have valid critcisms of existing systems and bugs, how else do they expect the developers to find the issues they're having players test for?

I agree with that, locking all cosmetics behind a paywall just simply isnt a good move, its clearly a result of a lack of confidence in their ability to push the necessary sales

[vagrant star]

It's certainly a funny concept they have.

Or maybe not funny, but I'm not sure what a better term would be...

[polar elbow]

yeah, locking all cosmetics behind a paywall effectively robbed the rest of the game of an actual variety of things to earn and work towards. I would have loved to at least get skill-based outfits for, yknow, leveling and mastering my skills, but....

[halcyon python]

Is there a good steam deck controller layout?

[frank mist]

What all is behind a pay wall. Isn’t it just outfits.

[civic viper]

But you know, you just can't play without That Outfit

[frank mist]

Given it’s a free to play full game I don’t see why outfits being behind a paywall is so bad.

[pallid bloom]

its bad becuse if this game is in beta then if they decide to change things dramatically then all your money spent could just go down the drain

[frank mist]

How else would they continue to develop the game/pay employee wages without charging for something though. As a genuine question not to be nitpicky?

I think that’s also just a risk you take buying anything from any business. Could go under at any time for any reason.

[polar elbow]

There's a difference between "having a cash shop" and "the cash shop is the ONLY way to obtain cosmetics"
As I said in my earlier post, the game should have a variety of earnable rewards to appeal to a variety of players. The game only really has earnable home decor, or things that eventually lead to home decor atm

which is great for the people who love home decor, but I feel like Palia could do better than that

[frank mist]

It isn’t the only way to obtain cosmetics though. There are a few outfits and all furniture is craftable through items u can find in the world all without spending real money. It’s literally just a few clothes. I agree the clothing/character customization needs work but I think you get a ton of content otherwise.

As much as ppl argue back and forth about whether it’s truly beta or not, this is something that happens with a new game that promises more content to come. Even the base Sims games are bare bones before the expansions and kits etc.

[pallid bloom]

my poor wallet for the sims

[frank mist]

Even older MMOs were bare bones. Think depending on when u joined u were either spoiled by all the cosmetic content and regular content or had to wait and see how the game performed.

[frank mist]

Riiight. The amount of my money EA has is appalling.

[pallid bloom]

i dont even have all the packs i just cant afford it anymore, and when i do get a pack it's one that actual improves gameplay

[frank mist]

I stopped halfway through TS3 and may or may not have 🏴‍☠️ 4, TS4 is appalling!!! Like EA continues to publish paid for expansions that are completely broken 😭

[pallid bloom]

Ik the only ones ive got are the actual working ones like cats and dogs

[frank mist]

🙃 truly a shame.

[pallid bloom]

truly is

but imma be honest i think i may buy some cosmetics from palia just because the base outfits just isnt her and ive been playing for a while

[polar elbow]

note that I said "earnable", as in, earnable within the game itself. Not through limited time one-off switch release celebrations or twitch drops, etc.
In terms of things you can earn through in game activities... we have nothing lol

[frank mist]

Ya I’m never satisfied w the base outfits and do wish u could mix and match w the store stuff. Character customization in general is pretty lacking. We’re all the exact same body types lol

[pallid bloom]

when i say some i mean a outfit amd a glider

[pallid bloom]

it be nice if when you hit certain lvls of a skill you get like fancy clothes for said skill like a hunters outfit etc

[polar elbow]

Yes, that's literally all I want. They can keep 90% of the ultra fancy stuff in the cash shop, just let me earn things that reflect my skills.

[frank mist]

Ya I agree it would be rly cool. Just disagree that cuter fits in the store is such a crime cause even companies that have better planned their development process and budget etc. will have to monetize.

[pallid bloom]

yeah would be nice if we could be our actual body sizes makes it more diverse too

[frank mist]

Ya there’s a store outfit that looks like a simple gardening/farmer one?? Which is silly lol. That would be perfect to unlock w the gardening guild or@something

[pallid bloom]

Yessssss i agree i just wanna represent what im good at ya know

[polar elbow]

I have zero issue with the fancy stuff like soothsayer, fairy, sky captain, etc outfits being in cash shop, but the herbalist and builder outfits, etc should have been earnable through their related skills. I don't think it's cool to have to pay for those kinds of things.

[pallid bloom]

yeah and itll make more sense to, like have delila give it you when you reach of high level to thank you for supporting her husbnd

[magic lantern]

I would maybe buy an outfit if they looked like stuff the villagers wear. I mean, I'm happy for the folks who like fairy wings, etc but I just want to look like a villager and only the default clothes come close.

[pallid bloom]

yeah the closet is lackin a fair bit

[ashen forum]

I definitely feel that, my outfit is paid but it's also the most Just Some Guy look I could have possibly managed

[frank mist]

Def agree those ones were not creative for real money 😭 that’s why they conveniently cost the exact amount of points u have leftover when u buy the ‘fancier’ stuff lmao

[magic lantern]

not bad actually!!

[pallid bloom]

and it is an amazing 'just some guy look'

[ashen forum]

hahaha, thanks I do like it! but also wish there was a wider variety of "normal" clothes

[pallid bloom]

yeah, like love the support to the fancy mythical peeps but im not that type of gal i just want like regular clothes like shirts or jeans etc

[pallid bloom]

your pc also looks like a guy thats aboutta make stuff go down, he looks cool

[tired falcon]

when does maji market end?

[pallid bloom]

27th i believe

[clever berry]

is it just me, or is Tau missing? i haven't seen him once today.

[pallid bloom]

i had his friendship quest for lvl 3 and after i completed it hes just disappeared

[boreal sorrel]

Can we not get soy sauce from anywhere but maji market :(?

[modern rock]

tau splits his time between kilima and bahari. though sometimes NPCs get a bit buggy and don't follow their usual schedule. if he's bugged on your current server you should be able to find him by switching servers (change to a different zone and go back)

[craggy sequoia]

Weird. I’m still seeing him with Hassian. At least during the day. In the evening he usually leaves Kilima for Bahari. Ive found him on his way to bahari

[modern rock]

it should be available from zeki's store once the event is over

[pallid bloom]

this was during the day as hassian was at his post and i was so confused

[craggy sequoia]

I bought like 125 soy sauce from the Maji Market, just in case it didn’t come back

Oh… will Ginger and Green Onions still be available as gatherables post Maji Market

[clever berry]

i've been in several servers and both zones. i keep seeing hassian but can't seem to find Tau anywhere

[craggy sequoia]

Maybe the Pupper is bugged

[clever berry]

that might be the case for me. i think i finished that quest a few days ago. haven't played since, so i can't remember.

[pallid bloom]

no not the pupper

[craggy sequoia]

I played a little today but it was mostly taking care of stuff on the plot so I didn’t go see anyone in town

[pallid bloom]

yeah

[polar elbow]

yeah.... my take is, if the outfit looks like it's designed to represent a skill's 'work clothes', it should be earnable through that skill.
If this were some other game, it'd be like telling a knight that they had to pay $$$$ to look like a knight. Or a mage that they have to pay $$$$ to look like a mage, etc.
That is my complaint regarding cosmetics in their entirety being paywalled- you wind up with the situation we have right now, where people who love gardening and focus on that skill can't look like a gardener unless they pay up. People who love the furniture making aspect shouldn't have to pay $$$$ to look like someone whose job is building furniture. >>

[craggy sequoia]

Oh…. I got an idea. Plumehound puppy as a pet in the game!

[smoky gyro]

I also need to knooooow because I am totally stockpiling them if not

[honest scarab]

Today I completed both the Master Bug and Fish Collections!! Woot!

[brisk spruce]

“We’ve long wanted to add some more regional variety to gardening and cooking — and the Luna New Year event was a great opportunity to introduce these to the game and give players some more options early in the game. Note, these crops and foragables will be available permanently, even after Maji Market ends.” - S6 Forseti
https://palia.com/news/patch-176
for you and @craggy sequoia

[weary void]

Congratulations. I have a feeling I might never get a star unicorn fish. It took me about 5 weeks to get the regular one. Those trophies look so nice.

[craggy sequoia]

I just need a Unicorn Fish.

[cedar river]

Need the star void and a rare one from bahari rivers to complete it xD

But I only can do fishing while my daughter is at home. Cause I even fail the reel in haha and she is much more better than I

[proven sky]

So I know that the hot-pots were confirmed to not give a star quality for display. Does anyone know if Zeki's Taiyaki can? I've bought a couple dozen now with no star quality on those.

[hot galleon]

Theyre both confirmed to not give star quality

[cedar river]

They wrote that they arent available

[proven sky]

Thanks. I msised the Zeki food part

[cedar river]

Maybe you don't wanna see it xD

[proven sky]

Most likely. So sad. I just want to display all the pretty stuff on the table. lol

[cedar river]

Hehe

Maybe at the next market

[hollow coral]

Nice! I got the fish one a few days ago, but I've still never even seen a star rainbow butterfly, despite many buzzy jars and honey lures

[serene barn]

Ive never had a queue before to get to the Night Market

[wispy siren]

where do we get the new year decorative fruit and banquet table etc? dont see it anywhere and finished my stamp cards

oooo nvm.. completely didnt realize chappa chase had its own rewards

[opal yarrow]

The signboard is very deceptive

[dusty yacht]

I finally got the gold to get the big Maji plushie, just in time 😭

[deep gorge]

Do we know what time the event actually ends?

[wispy siren]

yea DX doesnt look lijke s stall at all, i only did enough chappa chase for the stamp card and wont have enough time now to get the other stuff >.> #mumlife

[quiet wind]

anyone know a good place to catch rare bugs?

[opal yarrow]

This depends on the bug you want to catch. They are scattered across the map, and some only appear at certain times.

[quiet wind]

do i need buzzy jars or can i just search for them and hopefully get lucky?

[celest maple]

buzzy jars help

[opal yarrow]

Buzzy jars are extremely useful

[civic viper]

Still pretty sure Buzzy Jar + Kilima = Waste of Buzzy Jar

[quiet wind]

I am mainly after the golden glory bee and the rainbow tipped butterfly

[celest maple]

there's bugs in Kilima you can catch with the buzzy jar

[cinder temple]

It's true. I got caught in a buzzy jar once. Happened at the broken bridge.

[lament oracle]

Hey can anyone just confirm this. I know I can romance everyone. But how many can I give my pin back to?

[gritty socket]

Everyone, but you can only wear up to two romance pins at a time

[lament oracle]

Thank you! And the special golden pin. Is that the same as my normal pin?

[balmy glade]

back to my boyband idea

chayne hodari badruu ashura - sifuu is the manager - kenli is the superfan

i've perfected it. it's perfected.

[civic viper]

Link us in an original composition, let's hear it.

[balmy glade]

you're going to have to consult badruu on that one

sifuu accepts and rejects all of his written songs because she has a natural zest for rythmic tones..... consult her too

might want to consult kenli as well because he's been listening in on the studio. he's been humming "my dad's the dragon" all day today in his office

[civic viper]

Now it's perfecting... keep running it through the Perfectionator

[balmy glade]

dads 4 dragon

[twilit magnet]

how do we get the plushies for wishlisting palia? cant see any way to link stream account.

[cedar river]

I think everyone gets it automaticaly after log in than. The wishlist is only to make it bigger

[twilit magnet]

@cedar river will this be after the update? cos i haven't got 😦

[cedar river]

I was searching for linking too but than this idea spawns in my head and felt right xD

Definitly .. maybe after steam release

I hoped it would be small but I loose hehe

Only the small one is cute for me. But the bigger one would sure find a place too

[modest merlin]

This persons discards lol

[proven sky]

ouch

[modest merlin]

You could say, they were pretty easy to... BEET

[opal yarrow]

that feeling when you gave up on the heat root showing, and both cards turn up as soon as you dis-card yours

[proven sky]

I'd say the HEAT of the pot was the ROOT of their problem.

[edgy crown]

I'm going to miss hotpot. ):

[magic lantern]

hey so what time is the update/end of market? like 27th 4am Eastern US time or... Put another way, is today the last day for wish making/hot pot?

[opal yarrow]

It'll go when they go down for the new patch/update. They haven't announced it yet, so get as much done as you can.

[still zodiac]

So, is S6 already prepping to release the hotpot game as merch? I'd insta-buy it!

[frozen falcon]

You and many others

[twin grove]

Is there a reason a small room costs more than a medium room?

[stoic crane]

Did you already buy one small room? Because the price increases each time you buy a room

[summer raven]

Hello peeps just wondering are they going to fix the chimney smoke or is it going to stay black like that ?

[steep nexus]

They're working on it

[vagrant star]

I have no clue when, but I think they will fix it somewhen. At a minimum, they are aware that it looks funny and it's apparently not intended, they'd have said so otherwise: #📢│palia-status message

[summer raven]

ok thanks guys 🙂

[hexed cloak]

I have ~4k unspent lucky envelopes, what would you recommend getting?

[smoky gyro]

Recipes from Reth!

[vagrant star]

Food, or furniture if you like it.

[magic lantern]

duplicate lanterns/furniture or just soy sauce and never need to buy again (3k tickets was about 90 soy sauce for me -- and yes I know it'll be available for purchase at Zekis after)

[opal yarrow]

The short lamp post

[potent gyro]

i really hope they fix the rummage pile, having to get some of the nicest houesing items from it is horrible

its such a low chance at getting on since its full of low end crafting items like worms and stone

[round lynx]

I absolutely completely agree in fact rummage piles need to be deleted from the game entirely because they’re the worst gamedesign ever
On another note god I love your pfp

[magic lantern]

I dunno. I mean on the one hand, yeah, painful drop rate, but on the other it's a low key reason for logging in daily after you've knocked out everything else. That and Zekis coins are only real dailies.

buy a salt, look for rummage pile, suddenly remember all the other things I want to do...

[modern rock]

i don't mind that the rummage pile exists, but i do think it's weird most of the drops are so terrible considering it's something you can only collect once per day. the majority of drops are something you could have collected yourself in like 5 seconds which only makes it more deflating when you were hoping for a furniture set recipe and instead got something completely useless

[round lynx]

My main beef with that is not the loot itself tbh, but the lack of any gameplay value. Click one button to receive a random item isn’t gameplay.

[modern rock]

hmm. well i wonder if there's a way to make it more interactive/involved? not that i see the devs changing it at this point

i hope they at least reconsider how they implement seasonal drops if they're going to do that again, the way they did the winterlights rummage pile items was kind of bafflingly bad

[potent gyro]

i agree i like the pile as it can give new players items like worms and ive even gotten glow worms, But the fact that some of the nicer items drop from it when the list is HUGE is a waste. they need to make it so you can either buy them if you want or have a free chance at getting them from the piles not force you to get them from just the pile thats once per day

[round lynx]

That’s what I wrote in feedback when they dropped. I can’t really suggest how except some sort of mini game. But then people who don’t like the mini game will feel forced to do it.

[potent gyro]

yeah the winterlight was was to much. getting the same rug everyday for 6 days straight was when i new it was busted

[polar elbow]

imo there should never be RNG involved in getting limited-time event exclusive rewards unless there is either A) an alternate way to obtain the thing or B) a pity system to ensure you can get what you want/need before the event ends

logging on daily for a limited time event, collecting the daily thing, doing everything you can to get what you need and failing to get it because "lol RNG" is the exact opposite of cozy imo

[quaint geyser]

Is this how the smoke is meant to look? Is this a bug? I'm very confused.

[polar elbow]

known bug. Will probably get fixed with this coming patch.

[quaint geyser]

OK, thanks.

[weary void]

That looks really bad. I have seen that in Kilima a few times.

[quaint geyser]

It looks bad enough that my dog barked at it 😅

[weary void]

Oh wow! In Kilima I thought a quest was going to pop up for me to put out a fire. Mine, so far, has been okay. I do notice sparks coming from the chimneys a lot. Which is a bit worrisome too.

[quaint geyser]

Hopefully it will get fixed soon.

[weary void]

Over 250 bug fixes are expected Tuesday. I just wonder how many new ones might pop up. 🫣

[celest maple]

hi

[silk harness]

Has anyone here played Palia on steam deck yet?

[lament mason]

probably twice as many

[night belfry]

Guess I closed my game while I was at the market, cause I’ve been sitting in queue for 20 mins to get into the game 😭

[weary void]

Oh no. Don’t say that. I will be so happy if they fix the windy ruins temple so I can finish that and hopefully never have to set foot in it again.

[pallid bloom]

so glad i finished that temple before all the bugs happened its a nightmare without them

[weary void]

I hope I can finish it soon. I want the silverwing.

[pallid bloom]

dw i believe in you!!!

[weary void]

Aw. Thank you. I have collected some of the items for the bundles. I don’t think I have them all yet.

[pallid bloom]

im focused on finishing this bloody fit for a watcher quest but ive now only just got to lvl 6 mining

[still zodiac]

Any idea if Soy Sauce will become a permanent ingredient I can get from elsewhere? Or do I need to mass-stock-up on the market for the rest of the year?

[pallid bloom]

i have no idea i hope it become permanent as i havent bought any

[still zodiac]

I have 60, but wondering if I need to buy more :p

[lyric night]

should be available at the general store after same with the seeds

[hollow crescent]

while you mine looking for palium or chop trees for flow you can have it up for request too, idk now with new stuff coming that ppl will help, but some might be able to toss a few things

[pallid bloom]

i tried to request and ive ask my group however i got no response from them and i feel bad asking strangers

[hollow crescent]

it’s ok :D that’s the point of requests, ppl get renown for gifting too so if their doing that wouldn’t hurt to have something up as you work on your goals

[pallid bloom]

yeah

currently gotta get money for the pickaxe as im broke as hell in palia

[weary void]

Oh I finally managed that one. I still forget to visit Subira though. But it was a chore gathering all that material. I think her quest should maybe appear after being able to make silk though.

[pallid bloom]

i have her quest i have to get all the furniture

i just cant get one of the ingredients because im a lil poor women

[weary void]

I spent a lot of time very poor in the early game. The game throws a lot at you really fast.

[pallid bloom]

yeah

[fluid fractal]

Whos this beautiful frog man on my fyp

[ocean stone]

Frogbert

[civic viper]

@fluid fractal I know a certain pig would would be jealous.

[sick spire]

When do updates usually occur? I think last one was in the afternoon EST, is that typical?

[runic goblet]

can i get the hotpot takeout with star if i buy it?

[sick spire]

It's bugged

[runic goblet]

really? oh... thats too bad

[frank mist]

I think you can win star hot pot from playing the hot pot game though?

[proven sky]

I've never won any hot pot items from the hot pot game. Is that even a thing?

[frank mist]

I -think- that’s where I got mine. All I know is it was one of my first few times at the market and I finished a hot pot game and got a bunch of stuff in my inventory.

[modern rock]

having scrolled through the past few updates in #📢│palia-news it seems the majority started at 16:00 UTC and continued for at least 2 hours

[runic goblet]

you got the four with star?

[frank mist]

I need to check if it was 4 but I know for sure I got 3 starred ones.

[modern rock]

you get one of each star hotpot from the stamp card for playing the hotpot game, you can look at the stamp card in your menu

[runic goblet]

thank you, i think i used them because i didnt know that i could put them on the overworld lol

[sick spire]

Some people ate them by accident.

[frank mist]

Dang RIP

[sick spire]

It had to have been 4. You got four regular, 4 starred, and then a Soup tureen

[civic viper]

@frank mist Stamp Card if I recall, but yeah. You'll get 1 set of star hotpots that way only.

[sick spire]

I mean I think it was intended you could get starred ones buying more but the bug could not be fixed before then, same as taiyaki. They did say these items would all be back eventually, and they did give items as an apology.

[proven charm]

Are zeki's foods able to be bought as star quality yet? I'm wondering whether to just spend my tickets on other stuff

[modern rock]

no #📢│palia-news message

[proven charm]

Ah, ok Ty. I'll just buy dragons plushies

[agile basin]

Theres an achievement that awards the starred hotpots but I don't remember what it was

And no stars from zekis foods

But Reth's and Delilah's can be starred.

[sick spire]

Except the Soup bought from him

[sick spire]

I'm pretty sure the tickets carry over, like they said the ones from last Market are logged?

[sick spire]

Win 1/3/7 games - 4 soup takeout, 4 starred soup takeout, personal Hotpot

[proven charm]

Yea I got all the hot pots and all the other foods. But Ty for confirmation all.
💜🦋💜

[sick spire]

Make sure you've found all the treasure chests too! Some are hard to find, but you get the treasures and a blue banner

[agile basin]

Yeah

[sick spire]

Don't forget Soy sauce and seeds will be obtainable after the event from zekis I think, but not the recipies! And giner and green onion are gatherables

[civic viper]

Hopefully they rebalance the ginger/onion/garlic spawns. Tired of having to go all the way to Bahari to find garlic these days.

[balmy glade]

you're HUNTING for garlic????????

[civic viper]

About twice a week, I go gather garlic. Seems popular in a lot of recipies I make, so yeah, I run out and go look for more.

[balmy glade]

oh that's interesting! i usually just buy it from zeki if i need it. i've found the star quality garlic doesn't usually have as much as an effect on food as the other star quality ingredients

and yeah it's so annoying to look for. i find it and usually my inventory is full anyway LOL

[sick spire]

I find garlic all the time in the field kind near that abandoned boat pier, same with moss

Or buy it from zeki

[civic viper]

I find moss, and lotus, Sundew Lillies, Onions and Ginger. I'm cheap and don't buy anything I can make or find.

[pale sleet]

Taking one good look before it's gone tomorrow. Gonna miss all the hotpot nights.

[civic viper]

I'll miss the invisbile hole in the wall

I see an "I Sat on a Tack" button face... are you another Hole-in-the-Wall Gang member?

[pale sleet]

Not at all... profusely sweating

[civic viper]

It's Palia and 2024, you can come out of the hole now. We're required to understand.

[noble linden]

[civic viper]

I've seen that. And when the chaapa stops hoppin, the game has died.

[noble linden]

74 now

[civic viper]

I've had it die with as few as 8 or as many as 200

It's just the load balancer timing out, so it dumps the connections instead of re-queing them, probably to avoid data sync issues.

[noble linden]

I'll wait for apocalypse then

[civic viper]

Cannons to the left of them, Cannons to the right. Cannons ahead of them. Vollyed and Thundered, Stormed at with shot and shell. Bravely they rode and well, into the mouth of hell, rode the six hundred.

[placid haven]

I'm at 60 and not moving. They broke something on S6's end.

[civic viper]

If the chappa's not hoppin', End Task and relauch. It's dead, Jim.

[placid haven]

Chappa is hoppin but number does not change, for like 20 minutes. It's broken

[civic viper]

It does that. You're OK as long as the animation is playing, but yeah, it does get stuck for a long time now and then

[placid haven]

I'm just super pissed because I'm off work today and was going to wrap up all my stuff at the market, but I guess that's not happening today

[civic viper]

Well, you can always force-quit and come back instead of waiting all day for something that might not happen.

[placid haven]

Exactly what I'm going to do.....unfun adult stuff like running errands and hopefully when I get back home it will be fixed. Hopefully.

[noble linden]

I believe these are going to trash (?) since I don't have time today to wait 6 pm in game time to get broken maji market with little to no good translation to my language, so I have to figure it all out by searching into yt channels and wiki and still not enough since I play solo. Palia is not giving this freedom of playing alone as they promised.

[vocal cargo]

S6 said that currency will carry over for the markets when they announced the lunar event. Having said that, S6 has said a lot of things that they haven't actually done.

[clear yoke]

@vocal cargo do you know what time the event actually ends today?

New to the disc server

[vocal cargo]

I assume it ends when the servers come down for the update.

[clear yoke]

For some reason I was anxious it'd end today. Probably due to my hotpot addiction but ofc, that makes a lot more sense 😅 and I just went over to news channel and you are correct

[lyric night]

their servers will be down starting at <t:1709046000:f> (ur local time) for an estimated 3 hours

thats when the event ends as well

[clear yoke]

Tysm ✨️ maybe I'll actually get something productive done tomorrow

[civic viper]

Pretty sure if they weren't doing something productive, they wouldn't remain employed. Now, as to if they've fixed YOUR pet issue... that we'll have to wait and see.

I need ToG fixed so I can run out of quests. If that's in tomorrow's update, great. If not, there's always the next update.

Not going to berate a group of people who make their living from making games just because they don't fix a thing I need fixed. They don't work for me.

[umbral relic]

That's not what Luna said. Luna said "maybe I'll actually get something productive done". Implying they spend too much time playing Palia.

[civic viper]

@umbral relic My misread. Maybe I'm just too use to how toxic every Steam community is.

[tired night]

I get this message... anyone else?

[civic viper]

Not yet, but have been signed in for quite a while now. But that looks about right. Gonna take down the event, pre-load the new bugs, and get ready for patching.

[tired night]

oo well it has not moved yet I am in the queue at 23

[agile basin]

Just don't leave so you're there for the next session

[civic viper]

Was 181 and 74, so there must have been some movement. I'd have force-quit and signed in by now.

[brazen shoal]

This question is intended for players who have been playing since Βeta or near the launch of Palia. Is the game worth coming back to? Has it changed a lot and did the devs listen to the feedback of the players? Also is the shop pricing still a lot with no free in game clothing? Anyone who is basically a “veteran player” please let me know the state that Palia is in, I plan on coming back to Palia.

[queen hawk]

The game has been revised, there is free clothing

Lots of fun quests and real temples too

[lyric night]

its just the maintenance notice for tmrrws patch at 3pm UTC

[hexed cloak]

Alright, think I'm done with the event

[umbral relic]

Wait till tomorrows update and have a look. Different people will have a different metric as to whether it's worth "coming back". Look at what has been introduced since you left and decide if its enough

[hexed cloak]

Didn't get that Reth recipe that costs 8k tho

[autumn kernel]

I’m so confused. When I went to the fairgrounds just now it bugged out and acted like I completed the first quest to go to the Luna new year event… it gave me another Luna new year poster.
I went back to my storage after to check if I still had the original, making it 2… but I have four of the same poster in storage??

[charred forge]

Has there been any word as to if people will have to start over with the steam integration in a "accounts will be wiped with the integration"

[lyric night]

they shared their monetization model very early on, there won't be any free clothings at all

which feedback are u mainly referring to?

[brazen shoal]

thanks for the advice

[lyric night]

u can link ur Palia acc to steam once its released on steam, the game can be played on any devive/any platform with the same acc

there won't be acc wipes

[hexed cloak]

Probably not, that seems unlikely, otherwise people will be proper mad :D

[vagrant meadow]

Or I could not link my Palia account to Steam and have a Steam account and a real account for Palia.

[brazen shoal]

It’s an overall general feedback rather than specifics. Just wanting the feedback of people who have seen the changes and still play the game, knowing what they enjoy and what can still be worked on in their opinion. However Noctis brought up a good point, I could just look at the road map and previous patches

[autumn kernel]

Does anyone else have multiples of this poster reward? 👀

[hollow crescent]

how

[clever cove]

i have 3 but how'd you get 4

[hollow crescent]

3? i only got 1

[autumn kernel]

It keeps rewarding me with the initial quest when I load in to the fair grounds lol

[hollow crescent]

grabbing switch for testing purposes

[autumn kernel]

“You went to the Luna new year event for the first time!”
Me whose been there daily for weeks

[hollow crescent]

“first time today”

[clever cove]

wait did everyone else just get one

[hollow crescent]

yea afaik

[brisk spruce]

I only got one, even though I repeatedly logged in directly at the market lol
like, a LOT of times. I saw others say they got multiples too though

[clever cove]

man i was wondering why i kept getting the same poster

[autumn kernel]

I almost always go by using the central stables in Kilima. For.. testing purposes I guess 👀 (on switch)

[clever cove]

wish i paid more attention to when I got multiples, I was too focused on hotpot

[autumn kernel]

I only just noticed it! I went back to my home storage expecting to see one in there. But there was 3
I’ll admit the first thing I did was play hotpot hoping all the achievements were bugged out and I might get rewarded with the star hotpots again (I didn’t lol)

[clever cove]

unfortunately Reth gave us his best ones and couldn't do it agian

[civic viper]

Nothing for me today. Did get a mail with a tree, a plushie and something else though the other day.

[abstract cove]

Is anyone else having a hard time getting tish to spill the beans on her weekly gift wants 😅 she keeps telling me that reth wants apple jam

[civic viper]

Been having that problem with everyone since I started playing.

Half the time Reth tells me what half the population wants, and no one ever knows what he wants.

[brisk spruce]

might need to ask Reth or Jel instead. just like how she told you what Reth wants, they don't always tell you their own wants for the week

I didnt ask anyone this week so idk who would have the info for sure

[civic viper]

I know I've gone 2 or 3 weekly cycles without finding out more than the first item in anyone's list. They get consolation prizes instead if they don't speak up.

[agile basin]

If you can't find it there is a master list online if you want cheats

Just the master list of wants

[civic viper]

Not that important to me. I'm 4/0 or 4.4 for everyone. I just like using NPC's to clean out inventory overflow when I can, otherwise, in the bin it goes.

[polar elbow]

There is still no clothing that you can earn by playing the game itself, no. There have been a tiny handful of cosmetics released via limited time promotional campaigns such as twitch drops or switch launch celebration, but iirc those are over now and the cosmetics offered are no longer obtainable.
This coming update is claiming to be a massive bug-fixing update (over 250 bugs fixed, according to a twitter post) but we still don't know the exact details on that.
I still see a lot of complaints about lack of accessibility options to this day, though.

Lots and lots of new furniture has been added, so if you like decorating there's probably a lot of things to chase and decorate with. There's more temples now, I think, with their bundles and all.... but if you were hoping for something else like more things to do with others (hotpot exists but it's disappearing in tomorrow's update) , or other varieties of rewards to collect outside of just home decor... not really lol.

[agile basin]

Yeah fair

[civic viper]

Doesn't matter if it's fair - that's how I roll. LOL
But it's hard to play this "seriously", as it is still a beta. So what works now may not work at release, so I don't count on any compiled data during a beta.

As for decortating... 2nd Story When?
I'm not a "ranch-style" fan.

I've also heard Deliala mention "Sweetberries" and "Bushberries". Hopefully we'll see at least one, if not both of these, and I would LOVE to see a 1x2 planting. Make playing Garden Tetris more satisfying.

Of course, thinking about it... We have blueberries, and I know what those taste like. They taste like blue.
Sweetberries, I would assume, taste sweet, probably not like much else.
Bushberries though... I might need to have Sifuu taste them and describe them to me. Little scary here.

And the Dingleberries taste like... SHHH! Let Veruca find out the hard way.

[umbral relic]

There is 1 more. You can get a chapaa sweater with enough friend referrals

[civic viper]

I want a ghillie suit, so I can sit still and be mistaken for a bush. Oh the laughs I could get by running away from people with axes.

[modest merlin]

I hate this. Having to pick which triple to take

[polar elbow]

yeah, I didn't mention that one, because I assumed based off their wording that they were a returning player who would probably already have been aware of the recruit-a-friend rewards that existed prior to the game's open beta launch.
So I was mostly just listing all the things that have been offered since then.

[bold fern]

Does anyone know what time EST the market will be available until tonight?

[calm bough]

do you guys think the bahari entrance will be unlocked with gold or renown

[lyric night]

<t:1709046000:f>

[bold fern]

Ohh right up until the update. I should have figured that out 😅haha thank youu!

[modest merlin]

REALLY?! Again?!

Literally very next game

[fathom radish]

hmm, maybe its a new quest line even

[modest merlin]

it never occured to me that there'd be anything necessary to open it. I figured they would just open it.

[calm bough]

that'd be boring

[lyric night]

that's probably what'll happen tho

[umbral relic]

I just tacked it on as a reminder for other people reading who maybe didn't know 😄

[modest merlin]

Not disagreeing. It's just what I figured they'd do.

[calm bough]

awww, i wanted content

[vagrant meadow]

You need to collect the materials to build a train and then Eshe will "tsk" you for not including a "first class" section so she doesn't have to associate with the riff-raff.

[modest merlin]

It's entirely possible there'll be some content for it. Who knows? 🤷‍♂️

[fathom radish]

we’ll find out tomorrow

[modest merlin]

Wait - what?!

I thought it was next week!

I'm SO HYPED now!

[vagrant meadow]

Imagine how sad you would be if you didn't realize until you tried to log-in and couldn't because the world was offline.

[honest scarab]

Was it confirmed somewhere the tickets from the market will be saved for next Luna market? I thought I read it in an update but can't find it now

[umbral relic]

it has been mentioned that they do

[modest merlin]

Honestly, I wouldn't bank on that. I have... trust issues.

[honest scarab]

huh, I thought I read it somewhere but guess not

[umbral relic]

Thats what I was alluding too. As we understand it, they are supposed to rollover to the next one, but we won't actually know for sure until the next one lmao

[tranquil nest]

It wasn't confirmed specifically for Luna New Year Festival, but it was definitely mentioned for the previous Maji Market (in the linked article :D), so I'm assuming it will be the same. I can try asking to confirm. c:

https://palia.com/news/patch-176

[honest scarab]

thank you! I thought I had read something on Palia's website about tickets rolling over recently, but I see it was talking about tickets from Sept's Maji Market. I'm assuming same they will save remaining Luna tix tho I understand no guarantee that is what will happen.

[coarse arch]

Hey, so I was talking to my sister about Palia being released on Steam next month and she was saying that it's probably going to be more stable through Steam than through S6.... Idk. Anyone know anything about that?

[vagrant meadow]

Steam offers a marketplace, update service, auth-service and anti-piracy tools to developers. Last I checked (a few years ago) the auth-service (account linking) and anti-piracy tool were mandatory and the update service strongly encouraged but not required. None of that would improve stability of the game.

[umbral relic]

The wording in that technically doesn't indicate that the currancy rolls over, only that they used a different currancy for this market

Thats why I'm very curious as to whether it rolls or not

[devout sand]

ok im sure ppl have asked but what's happening right now? --oh nvm i can sign in now. it was weird, i tried to sign in and the maint. notice shook and wouldnt let me sign in, so i was confused as heck \

[cinder temple]

'Safe and sound' might imply that the currency you accrue gets stored somewhere with your other account info, even if it isn't visible in the inventory panel out of festivals. At least, that's how it often works in other games with similar systems. So ideally, your envelopes would go invisible after this festival, but they'd show back up the next time the currency can be spent again.

[civic viper]

Doubt it will be any more stable through Steam. I feel bad for Palia going to Steam though. The community toxicity of Steam will eat this alive.

Will get intentionally downvoted to "Hate It" by people who don't even own it, just because there's no PvP, and it's not 100% complete, doesn't include an automatic "I Win" button, and encourages people to cooperate.

[twilit gazelle]

I hope hot pot comes back again!! I love it or making it gets added to the underground 🤔

[sullen bison]

err... is anyone else having the same issue? (trying to leave my housing plot)

[sturdy pendant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C61_V1H7-9k Why does my game not have any of the flowers on the pavel mine cliffs?

[hollow crescent]

if ur on switch apparently their missing flowers and some other things to keep performance stuff down

[vagrant star]

Are you on Switch? If so, that's why. On PC, there might be some graphics settings changing that, too...

[sturdy pendant]

ughhhh. I tried running palia on my mac bootcamp partition but I don't think my computer has the processing power and just crashed on launch

[clever cove]

My sister's computer too I'm working on building my own PC so I can donate my old PC to her that can play palia

[west marlin]

Well if they falsely advertise to steam they will get this reaction, but I hope they will update it to say it's early access

[civic viper]

@west marlin PLEASE don't tell me you're one of "those".. who think "Early Access" means "completely finished game you get to play before anyone else." That's a guaranteed auto-block for eternity.

[warm python]

If they don't label it as early access, I will happily and eagerly review it as a full game.

[civic viper]

Steam "Early Access" IS Beta, or outsource Alpha testing through RTM release.

[clever cove]

The problem isn't that palia is in beta, it's that their steam page doesn't say it's in beta, I checked too

[warm python]

That's the point we're making

As it stands, the steam page does not say early access, implying that it is a full game release

And I will leave a review as such

[hollow crescent]

oh noo

[west marlin]

Huh I didn't say that at all...

[civic viper]

No, I saw exactly what you said, I'm just trying to determine if there will be any further conversation, or where you get this whole "if they falsely advertise" business from

[vagrant star]

I read that "falsely advertise" as "not declaring it as beta when it is".

[west marlin]

If they're selling it to steam as a finished game, instead of the beta state it's in currently, they are gonna get more complaints then just if they are transparent

[clever cove]

I think felix and relika are just trying to point out that the palia steam page doesnt say early access/beta anywhere, you can check it yourself: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2707930/Palia/

meanwhile, other steam games that are also in beta have announced it very clearly, as shown down here for lethal Company:

[west marlin]

That's not a commentary on early access as a label or if beta state games are good or bad

[warm python]

They did it with the Switch version, and unless they're taking their sweet time to update the Steam page to be correct, they're pulling it again.

[civic viper]

@vagrant star I read words at the face value and assume the current dictionary meaning of those words. I do not "imply" or "infer" meanings that are not in plain print.

[west marlin]

You did kinda infer I was saying something about early access game quality lol

[civic viper]

@west marlin It is not. It is merely what Steam puts up on a category they created. I've just been around since before there was a Valve or Steam, own around 1100 titles in Steam, and spent more than enough time in their forums to know that is the last place anyone ever should go.

[west marlin]

Huh

[vagrant star]

To me Felix's post is pretty clear: If they say something false, they will get a bad reaction. I hope they will update it to the correct information.

[west marlin]

Sir this is a Wendy's

[willow badge]

Is everything doing okay here?

[brisk spruce]

just someone misunderstanding someone else

[warm python]

I'm kind of just staring into the void pondering the space between pancakes and waffles

[hollow crescent]

waffles hold the syrup better :v

[worn snow]

age/experience rly doesnt mean anything in terms of media literacy, to me anyway

[warm python]

They do! Though it's harder to spread the butter on them

[worn snow]

but then u get the yummy pockets of butter n stuff :]

[brisk spruce]

on the other hand, butter and syrup pockets

[vagrant star]

From my side of things, yes, I hope everyone else sees it the same way.

[warm python]

True that, the butter/syrup pockets are /chef's kiss once you've got them going

[worn snow]

like when cheese doesnt fully mix into mac n cheese and u get cheese in the shell. now i wantxmac n cheese

[vagrant star]

Which kind of syrup? Waffles sounds great though!

[worn snow]

maple but also blueebrry maple syrup

[brisk spruce]

I'm an absolute glutton, I will take any kind of syrup. real maple syrup, crappy fake stuff, flavored crappy fake stuff, I eat it all

[warm python]

I had legit maple syrup two years ago when I went to Canada and it makes me so sad I can't get it over here in the States

[civic viper]

I read what was right there: "If they falsley adverise to steam...."

There isn't much room for interpretation there, stating to me "If S6 [read as "they"] falsely advertise to steam [...]"
I can't tell you exactly how many, but at least 90 games in the past 4 years I've seen start out somewhere else, come to Steam as a Beta, clearly marked as a Beta, some with a pre-game pop-up from the development team that this was a beta and would change considerable, all get the Community Torch for not being complete, not being whatever hair-brained thing someone thinks it should be, because they refuse to accept "Early Access" as meaning anything other than "completely done, you get to play a month before anyone else so you can haz everything ten times over", and then go on rampages, intentionally downvoting and even bragging about doing it.

That is to say, I do not hold the Steam Community in any regard.

[clever cove]

as a canadian who loves maple syrup, i still like the fake "maple" sugar syrup

[brisk spruce]

Palia is not marked as Beta or Early Access on Steam. Your argument is invalid in this context.

[warm python]

sir this is a waffle house

[west marlin]

Every time I say how much I like pancakes the waffle truthist come at me

[vagrant star]

Not sure what maple syrup tastes like, but blueberry syrup sounds like a great idea!

[torpid tulip]

Almost same, but there was something at our hotel just north of Pittsburgh that was neither maple nor "pancake syrup" that I couldn't quite place but refused to finish.

[civic viper]

As an American who likes actual, real Maple syrup and had had trees with taps and vats for boiling it... you can have both LOL
Just not fan of maple anything, and I'm always glad to cut down those repulse trees and their messy seeds.

[clever cove]

it has a particular "Tree" taste so it took me a bit to get used to, once you do, it's very different from sugar table syrup for sure

Except I like both

[warm python]

[brisk spruce]

I've never been to a waffle house (they don't exist here), I can never tell if people are talking about it favorably or uh... not

[worn snow]

you mean you hate waffles???? /j

[warm python]

I've never been to one either, I just know it's a PVP zone

[west marlin]

Please don't @ me about this I just wanted to say I like pancakes on peace, not start a war 😭

[torpid tulip]

Waffle House is.... both.

[brisk spruce]

I'm... disgustingly intrigued. like I'm curious, but I feel like I'll regret the curiosity

[civic viper]

It does. and that makes it easy to distinguish the real thing from the fake stuff. The fake stuff is just sugar-water-syrup. The real stuff... I dunno if I'd call it a "tree" taste, but then there aren't very many trees in my diet, outside the occasional bundle of ginko leaves... but it is definitely different and you either like it or your don't.

[worn snow]

i love waffle house :] its kinda like super gross but v amazing at the same time

[civic viper]

Was it "Lingenberry" by chance?

[warm python]

I'm an IHOP kinda gal if we're talking chain diners

[clever cove]

theres a very real, woody taste to maple syrup which makes it even more impressive that the syrup is just naturally sweet that way, I ended up liking maple syrup just cause it tastes so different (but also its kinda expensive so i just sit with my table syrup,,)

[vagrant star]

I'd say liking pancakes is fine. Just tell me whose pancakes... The Berlin ones? The french ones? These tiny american ones? The bavarian ones?
(Yes, all different things XD, but most are good)

[worn snow]

now i want crepes from ihop man

[civic viper]

Got too much family in and around Pittsburg. They come up with some... interesting syrups from time to time.

[clever cove]

i want to try every unamerican pancake now

[worn snow]

i also like bob evans

[west marlin]

Anyways I actually hate breakfast

And I hate to think that either we are being mislead about the state of the game or that steam users are
Either way beta isn't a bad thing, but it shouldnt be a different answer to the question depending on what storefront I'm at
That's just strange

[civic viper]

Tiny American? What? I don't know which Americans were making you pancakes, but they should be at least 8-10 inches in diameter and a 1/4 inch thick, and no, I will not metric that.

[warm python]

I've never heard of that one before!

[civic viper]

I make mine in a cast iron skillet, the whole cast iron skillet... big, thick, fluffy, and filling. Like breakfast should be.

[worn snow]

full disagree on the first part (my day of eating goes breakfast - breakfast - dinner - breakfast) full agree on the second part

[west marlin]

Coffee is my breakfast

[brisk spruce]

I wake up at lunch time, I just have lunch for breakfast

[civic viper]

My coffee mug is huge, and looks like Tim Burton helped illustate Gimm's Fairy Tails. The caption reads "Never let anyone tell you magic isn't real. I start every day with a magic potion, made from beans, that restores me to life."

[vagrant star]

French ones: the french call them crêpe. Bavarian ones: Take egg and stir it a lot so it gets foam, salt, pepper, some vegetables you like, some flour, mix those, bake it in a pan. Berlin ones: Imagine doughnuts, but as a ball and filled with jam.
All called "Pfannkuchen", at least here, and that translates to "pancake"...

[torpid tulip]

Bob Evans is the place you go for a good breakfast. Waffle House is where you recover from a hangover. IHOP is in between. IMO, of course.

[warm python]

This is basically me, though I've been waking up a little earlier lately

[clever cove]

ooh I've had crepes, but they were advertised as japanese crepes so I'm not sure if they're made authentically french, soooo good though

[civic viper]

Awful House is where you go to get shot or food poisoning or both.

[clever cove]

i want berlin pancakes, those sound amazing..bavarian sounds great too for a savory snack

[warm python]

[clever cove]

are berlin pancakes made in a pan still though

[civic viper]

Also acceptable is "Offel House", because yuck. And the best place for breakfast, other than my yacht club, is KT's Diner. Classic, vintage 30's style, cuisine and work ethics. Love that place, Can't ever finish all my food and always wind up taking it with me for later.

[vagrant star]

Can confirm you got both of them right.

[vagrant star]

Very good question, I unfortunately don't know for sure... Never made them myself, I only bought them at a bakery...

[civic viper]

A round dough-ball filled with jam.. in America we call that a "jelly doughnut"... But no, I actually do know what they are.. they're OK with coffee, but I'd rather have a breakfast steak, a side of hashed browned potatoes and fresh fruit.

[west marlin]

yacht club

[lyric night]

they are fried like donuts, they are just fluffy jam filled doughballs with powdered sugar on top

[clever cove]

i want like 12 of them

[vagrant star]

Good to know!

(Also, if I'm pinging anyone too much, please tell me, okay?)

[civic viper]

Yeah. I'm the Entertainment Chairman. Actually started checking out this game at the request of some of our memebers, as they'd like to see it approved for use in the club. We've got a ton of kids, so the members always bring stuff to us officers to approve or disapprove, based on a pretty simple "Is this something I would not get upset about if someone else let my kids play with it?"

[clever cove]

im ok with pings ty for checking in

i got kicked out of watching grass grow on my farm from talking about pancakes

[warm python]

Pancakes > grass /nodnod

[tidal delta]

TL;DR Shepps and Palians come together to make a survey for you to provide feedback for on accessibility in Palia, for us to take directly to S6. (You should take it here: https://forms.gle/ttxAFhdA4a79fLdm6)

Just a friendly reminder from us and MelodicBlue, Mavebrick, and Admiralsky that we're still collecting responses until March 8th! Please circulate this widely wherever possible. The sorts of discussions that happen in this channel, especially, would greatly benefit the work we're trying to accomplish via this survey (amongst other initiatives, detailed in the survey!)

[warm python]

oh now I have more emotes from other servers I can use now that someone gifted me nitro, sweet, I'm totally not abusing this

[west marlin]

[cosmic oak]

i am excited to see how the steam reviews will fair, this game will not be saved from criticism with steam reviews LOL

[west marlin]

Love nitro, I use this one in other chats all the time:

[midnight oak]

Better turn off comments when I post my review

[last pulsar]

if major bugs (like the quest ones) arent fixed beforehand, its gonna be rough

[west marlin]

I've already been writing my review

[warm python]

I've been using that one too LOL. Other than that I'm just spamming Alan Wake emotes everywhere I can, because I can

[brisk spruce]

I anxiously await the patch notes I wanna know what bugs they fixed

[midnight oak]

[worn snow]

i noticed that too lol

[warm python]

Yeah I'm super curious to read the list

(and see what else inevitably breaks but )

[worn snow]

hoping qol stuff includes accessibility stuff :,,)

[warm python]

huffing that censored-ium

[last pulsar]

with less bugs id be a lot more likely to recommend to my friends. ive told them ab palia but havent really pushed them to play bc i dont want them getting stuck and put off of it like ive seen happen to some ppl in the community

[autumn kernel]

(I’m sorry I had to lol)

[warm python]

That's exactly what I'm afraid of LOL

[midnight oak]

Programming jokes and socks are welcome.

[civic viper]

Cat is spot on.

[polar elbow]

I'm just really hoping we don't end up seeing a large chunk of the bug fix list being filled with entries like:
"Fixed a bug where the sell value of star stones was higher than intended"
Or "fixed a bug where rare bugs were spawning in flow tree groves." In other words, I don't want to see a bunch of nerfs being presented as bug fixes. I hate when games do that... I want that 250+ bug fix count to be full of REAL fixes.

[civic viper]

Hate to break it, but just as often as not, a nerf actually IS a fix.

[clever cove]

i have a feeling they won't list every fix out so you'd have to discover what was fixed (like the achievement bug) and would just condense it to the big fixes like temple fix

I can understand that it's tedious to write 250 lines of bug fixes, but also it's difficult for players to know if specific issues have been addressed if it's not listed clearly

[civic viper]

It can be, if you don't have good internal reporting and tracking. Dunno what S6's uses, if they use any project management software at all, or just write things on Post-It notes and pass them around.

Also, the Magical White Proudhorn now has an Official Unoffical Name. His name is "Damnbi". As in "Dambi teleported into the wall again, there go all my dispel arrows again."

[young plank]

Nah im still running with glitter moose XD

[clever cove]

swag stag is my fave name

[civic viper]

Nope, not "Disco Deer", not "Magical Elk", not "Swag Stag" (but that's the most creative). It's just Damnbi.

[midnight oak]

I usually call it “urrrr puff urrrr!” Because that’s how I find them inside walls while foraging

[civic viper]

Heheheh Vexy... very true.

Or "Pingsparkle" cuz he sounds like that a lot too. Truth is, that sound is actually his molecules being absorbed slowly into the stone over the next hour. It's a terrible, lingering way to go.

[clever cove]

I've definitely been on the side of bug fixer > slowly typing in a large excel sheet every single change I've made and it has been TEDIOUS but that was for internal tracking and not for massive players and their experiences 😂 It has helped immensely to have a list of every single bug fix even though it's tedious and time-consuming

If S6 doesn't do it it's unfortunate that's all, just good habits to have for a programmer imo

[civic viper]

When I wrote Skyrim: Jobs I used a combination of MS Project and Autotask. MS-P does very nice Ghant Charts, and Autotask does a wonderful job with trouble-tickets (bug reporting), and I can parse them, complie them, route them out CrystalReports, and have a buglist and fixlist ready in 10-15 minutes.

[midnight oak]

Palia coder log, day 237: I found the code for the blueberry pie monster quest in the basement. It’s wounded but I think I can fix it. I’ll send up the bucket for more fish and a fresh pen.

[civic viper]

Why, DNS, why will you not resolve ON the DNS server? Ugh... I will spin up a secondary DNS server if I have to.... don't mind me, arguing with my render farm again....

[clever cove]

why can't my bug-crushing work days be like this

[civic viper]

I wish we could crush bugs. Common Field Crickets would be extinct, and Stinkbugs would be on the Endangered Species list.

[midnight oak]

But then they’d be stinky AND stuck to your shoe

[hallow creek]

im sure im not the only one to come up with this, but i was trying to come up with some alternatives for the fence and i rly like this

[clever cove]

i love the use of the rug as a paving!

the benches also make a very pleasing border pattern

[hallow creek]

i dont love it but its not like we have alot of options as of now

[clever cove]

hoping for more paving someday 🥲

[midnight oak]

Hopefully we get some tomorrow 😮 although wishful thinking on my part

[hallow creek]

i just want them to fix the chimney smoke so it doesn't look like some 1850s london coal burning factory 😹

[midnight oak]

Hopefully that’s in the fixes XD

[civic viper]

You can kind of fix that yourself. It's something in the graphics settings. Crank 'em down, it will go away completely and you can spot resources twice as far away

[hallow creek]

but i want things to look prettyyyy

[civic viper]

So it has to be either a bad shader call, or something in the particle system calling an invalid texture reference

I like Looks Pretty too, but if it comes down to Looks Pretty, or Found 20 Palium nodes everyone ran past, guess which I pick?

[hallow creek]

skill issue, i find tons regardless

[civic viper]

And goodbye. 0T.

[tardy obsidian]

whoa it exists

[vagrant star]

Star Onyx, nice!

[abstract laurel]

nice to know because other than quartz garnet citrie and aquamarine i have no other starred starstoes

[sage geyser]

Pls @ me, we can hotpot until maintenance right?

[civic viper]

Got a Star for everything except Amethyst and Ruby so far. Just not the time of day for hunting those. Have to go when the bulk of the population is either in bed or in school.

[tardy obsidian]

been trying to get star emerald or star ruby for like 20 hours total now, these don't seem to exist tho 🙄 only doing it because there's nothing else to do

[weak wigeon]

is there any way to add stuff to Paliapedia? The last one would be Steamed Fish. I've also noticed Palia Tracker hasn't updated yet

[civic viper]

One of the biggest reasons it's so hard to find the top tier stones is too many people running around only breaking ore nodes. Gotta take the greys too. 9 out of 10 gems come from plain grey rocks.

Of course there is. It's just HTML. Just need editing rights and access. Neither of which I can grant. No affliliation with that site.

[tardy obsidian]

game pls

[weak wigeon]

i got two sapphires,a citrine and a garnet, why two of the same instead of a different and less rare one

[civic viper]

RNGesus does not believe in you.

Go forth, do something truely random and perhaps he will bless you.

[tardy obsidian]

ikr

[weak wigeon]

you also want them all to decorate? i'm making witchy housie and i NEED THEM, i wish we could trade 😭

[tardy obsidian]

for now I'd settle for having one of each... but the palium ones just don't exist

[olive carbon]

Lord of choas vibes, accurate and rngesus made me snort

[weak wigeon]

i never even got a normal ruby when palium was super easy to get...

[civic viper]

GenCon

[tardy obsidian]

I got 30-40... and then they nerfed it

[weak wigeon]

so lucky QwQ

[vagrant star]

I can confirm that the star purple one exists, got it a few days ago... Other than that, I'm still waiting for any that is not citrine or quartz.
I hope the RNGods will give you the palium ones soon!

[tardy obsidian]

held on to 3 and haven't gotten ANY ruby ever since

[agile basin]

And 29 starred garnets

[weak wigeon]

has anyone gottem thensmooth pebble? from oysters LOL

[agile basin]

Don't forget them

[olive carbon]

Starred so far for me in order of appearance- citrine, quartz a couple times, ruby the most, and the other day an aquamarine. They go on a display case in my museum so I'm looking forward to finding the rest and possible starred pearls!

[agile basin]

I have garnets, onyx, citrine, and aquamarine

[weak wigeon]

It kinda pissed me off that they reduced the price AND the drop rate... Either one of the other, but both?? Since when does rarer mean cheaper???
I know many people might disagree but that plus how palium spawns now has made me hate mining haha

[agile basin]

No quartz ironically but multiples of the others

[tardy obsidian]

I'm DROWNING in quartz

[olive carbon]

Shrinkflation hits palia

[weak wigeon]

I swear. I wish they kept palium specific spawn spots and maybe also random ones, with a bit less spawn rate so it would be balanced :/ And also fix the starstone rate/price thing. It is true that the prices were insane but damn, they rarely drop and even more now that there's starred ones 💔

Mining was great before, maybe a bit too nice, but they changed it way too much and very suddenly, i hate getting 2 nodes of palium after 1h mining haha 🥲
Or seeing people mining the palium i've been trying to spawn for a while without waiting or calling it

[olive carbon]

I suspect that they'll probably tweak the numbers and chance drops a lot over the next few updates so I'll cross my fingers too about this!

[weak wigeon]

I agree that it's kinda exciting finding pal around the map if youre just walking around but looking for it specifically is pain xDDD

[tardy obsidian]

yeah I kinda hate Bahari now... ores all look the same from afar, they take forever to mine, click.... click... click... and the map is just annoying to get around
I swear if I get another "find this thing in Bahari" quest, I'm gonna go full psycho

[lyric night]

they at least said they are looking at shared resources, maybe that'll make things easier once they change something about them

[olive carbon]

And I totally get this especially the people hoggin the pal, I've seen some selfish behavior but it's one of those things where there's no right way to play even if we really love the cooperative aspect - rightfully so because it makes the game so much better- but it also kind of shoots us major miners in da foot. It's a touchy issue for sure.

[weak wigeon]

Sharing pal before was so eaaasy, they made flow trees better and pal worse... When you call a node, there are 4 ppl waiting and someone just comes and hits the node 3 times... That's awful and, sadly, very unavoidable :'))))))

[olive carbon]

This is coming from someone who basically only goes to bahari with the intention of sharing resources! It's my favorite part of the game honestly

[weak wigeon]

I personally only call big and medium pal nodes, i don't think there's much point calling the small ones unless someone's in nearby. For those i usually check and call it if there's someone. But as i said, calling a big one, waiting, and people hitting so many times that doesn't let the rest loot after waiting for them to come... that's just so sad ;_;

[olive carbon]

And then there's me, mortified if I accidentally chop a tiny FT with my exquisite axe, asking myself if I need to downgrade an axe level so I never do it again 🙃

[weak wigeon]

I like sharing a lot too! But it can be frustrating :c

[weak wigeon]

I felt that way at first too haha, but there's nothing we can do about 1 hit trees!

[clever cove]

I smash the small pals, I flare the med pals for nearby players, and call the large pals for map wide... otherwise waiting too long for like 2 pal on a med pal makes me feel bad for whoever is stuck waiting with me

[tardy obsidian]

when you mine large palium and get 3 ore

[weak wigeon]

For those i usually tell people, "If you find the grove, you take them" (i never find the groves so i don't really say it in a selfish way jashdhjd)

But finding it and calling it also deserves a reward, i've been looking for groves for SO LONG and haven't found them until people called them, so it's fair imo

[weak wigeon]

is is true that if you share it you get more loot? i've read that from someone but idk if it's true

[clever cove]

No, you get the same amount as if you mined it solo

[olive carbon]

Yeah totally, tiny pal nodes I'll call out to nearby chat if there's a group right around me, but otherwise unless they increase the drop numbers it's not worth it most of the time. But honestly I just love helping others, so as a helper it'd be great if those drop rates and amounts were bigger for co-op play, sometimes I even just let other player take the smalls because I don't need pal (and I tend to gift it half the time anyway lol)

[umbral relic]

everyone gets the same loot no matter how many people its divided up by

[weak wigeon]

i like that idea too!

[weak wigeon]

Oh, alrighty! So if a node gives 3, it's gonna give 3 no matter if you mine it alone or with more players?

[umbral relic]

correct

[clever cove]

I like your idea tho, more incentive to share without punishing solo miners

[weak wigeon]

I guess someone said that for people to have a reason to share even tho it wasn't true... jdashdjd

[olive carbon]

Cannot tell how to feel about this lmao pros and cons??

[umbral relic]

the biggest con would be people pushing to wait that little bit longer so another person could hit the object to increase payout

[weak wigeon]

Maybe they thought people would think "Oh, if i get more then i'll share" LOL idk 😭

[umbral relic]

this would only work on flow trees anyway.

Palium has a limited number of hits that fluctuates based on the pick used and size of the node, and pickable forages only ever reward one no matter what

[weak wigeon]

that in case thatthe loot was proportional to the number of people... cause maybe it could increase a specific amount no matter if it's 1 or 3 more players

[olive carbon]

Let the palium nodes heal

[umbral relic]

just seems like needlessly complicating something that already has a simple system.

[weak wigeon]

that'd be great if they made something like groves but with pal tbh 🥲

[olive carbon]

I do think it's pretty fairly balanced between co-op play and solo play styles and rewards, like the rewards for "mining together" and such are pretty decently...uh...rewarding haha

[weak wigeon]

yeah the whole thing about more people more loot sounds a bit weird in general

[olive carbon]

Omg giant magical meteor showers?!

[weak wigeon]

ngl that'd be awesome, like the big meteor in stardew valley hahahaha

[olive carbon]

AH NOT ME TYPING THAT OUT AND BACKSPACING IT HAHA

[weak wigeon]

IMAGINE A HUGE PAL METEOR THAT FALLS EVERY CERTAIN TIME FOR PLAYERS TO MINE TOGETHER

[olive carbon]

I would try my darndest to stand directly under it lol

[weak wigeon]

[olive carbon]

[weak wigeon]

^ my honest reaction (me too ngl)

[olive carbon]

Okay okay okay and and and what about the wishing on a star mechanic from ACNH?! Hello, palia team, we'd like you to commit a tiny bit of copywrite infringement

[weak wigeon]

me: a dumass

i need to draw this better omg jdsjcbadfhjfsdhjasdfghjf

[olive carbon]

The 'wow' is what got me

I get very much "dinosaur smiling in the face of the apocalypse" vibes lmaoooo

[weak wigeon]

ajkshajklsdashjd "wow. ·u·"

[tardy obsidian]

"palium on me"

[olive carbon]

omw

[weak wigeon]

[tardy obsidian]

look for a big crater and some loose body parts

cozy horror mode: on

[olive carbon]

You know when people are like "what's that ringing sound by the wall" and it ends up being a glitchy glambi? That, but soft, faraway screaming from under the giant magical rock

[weak wigeon]

i can imagine the game respawning us like it does with water

the edgiest player: 🧍‍♂️

[umbral relic]

Alternatively: Me watching my teammate's 500kg bomb heading towards me cause they chucked their strategem ball right where I was standing in Helldivers 2

[tardy obsidian]

kkkkillllll mmmeeeee

[vagrant star]

Still kind of funny that everything in Palia has its own sound, the world there must sound really cluttered...

[olive carbon]

chat censors kill so no one knows your final wishes

[olive carbon]

An actual neurodivergent nightmare tbh

Me, in the grocery store: "why aren't these green onions softly singing to me?"

[vagrant star]

Understandable... (I'm generally playing without sound, so far game and sound are slightly too much in my opinion, for some reason. Admittedly didn't try it in Palia yet.)

[vagrant star]

Zeki's store must be quite annoying, now that I think about it...

[olive carbon]

It's a useful tool in some cases, some of the sounds definitely help in certain circumstances. But the invasive weeds of the world, uh excuse me, I mean, sundrop lillies, they're too everywhere and always like aaahhhhh pickmeeeee and I'm like NO I don't have ROOM in my POCKETS

[weak wigeon]

smooth pebble where art thou

[vagrant star]

So far, playing without sound works well enough. Admittedly I'm not really usually trying to find specific rare stuff though, it might change my opinion there...

[autumn kernel]

Oh man I was talking about this the other day! If they added pure pallium nodes that only spawn in with the grove
They would look like big crystals, heal like flow trees so need co-op chop, drop just pal ore.

[olive carbon]

The most useful thing I can think of is the sound the grove makes and the fact that it's direction in the game so it can point you towards the ft grove pretty accurately

[weak wigeon]

😭 i wishhhh

[vagrant star]

That does sound handy! I'll try to keep it in mind.

[civic viper]

The Midnight Groan?

[tribal harbor]

Does anyone know if the "Special Donations" quest is bugged. I've been stuck at 6/7 treasures for hours now. I've gone to all locations they're meant to be, all 7 and it seems as though I've picked everything up

[civic viper]

@tribal harbor Yes, absolutely bugged, so is Eye of the Storm and the two usually go hand in hand

[tribal harbor]

I've done all the eggs, all 8 clues and all the fish. Been tearing out my hair with this, been hours

[civic viper]

Yeah, it bugged for me too. First Elouisa left, then Zeki left, then Caleri left, and none of them came back, so I made a leap of faith... respawned onto the last island, and bugged until fixed.

Zeki won't talk about the key, which means the door won't open, which means I can't get the last treasure, nor open the small building in the back to get the Quality Ancient Cloud Minnow

[tribal harbor]

I was able to get into that area, and grabbed the goggles but he won't take them 💀

[alpine axle]

I would love to see sooo many additional features added to the game. For example, I would love to have Ormus I take care of that also produce milk for recipes. Some other thoughts: potion making, wine and brews, and just a ton more recipes!

What are some features others would love to see?

[tardy obsidian]

my brain is smooth pebble

[opal yarrow]

The ability for devs to hotfix bugs without waiting a whole month.

[clever cove]

gotta take up nintendo for that

[opal yarrow]

Yeah, can't put the toothpaste back into the tube

[clever cove]

I want to be able to ask a lover out on a date once a week, more randomized events at your house (NPCs visiting), paving and outdoor flower options, more fencing, ranching, the windmill being able to grind wheat, corn, and rice to flour, more dessert recipes, more friendship levels to finish off all the cliffhangers

[autumn kernel]

[alpine axle]

Alll of this yes! The windmill is such a good idea! I completely agree about more friendship levels. I would love to see random visitors travel through the town that you build relationships with too and who also sell unique wares 🙈

[weak wigeon]

I'm a cheesy romantic human being and i wish we had more romantic interactions and also emotes like hug, kiss etc QwQ

[civic viper]

Solid proponent of Make The Windmill Do Something (Other Than Make Noise)

[weak wigeon]

Also giving the shells a purpose would be nice LOL And let us place HQ jam and pickled food at home, books for clutter, more soil patches...

BEING ABLE TO GO TO BAHARI CITY cause they always mention it and i can't wait to goooooo

[clever cove]

let us smooch our soup boyfriend and take him out on a date

[weak wigeon]

HELL YEA THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT

[clever cove]

i had this image of bahari as some big town with a sports stadium and like bahari boyz concerts but the bay is so devoid of life theres an abandoned village

[weak wigeon]

Imagine meeting Ashura's ||son and little graddaughter|| omggggg ;w; Also ||the duchess|| and other characters that have been mentioned

[civic viper]

I don't mind giving useless things a function - but more than that, I'd like to have a means of reproducing the sounds many things make in the world (aka a "Music Box") that could play the Shell sound, or the Sundrop Lilly sound, or the Briar Dasiy sound

Even the chickens sound of wild onions could be fun

[alpine axle]

This this this!! I want to see it!

[weak wigeon]

And also making the record player useful so maybe we could listen to some Bahari Boyz... hahahah

[tardy obsidian]

If they do, then I demand them to let me release the ladder cut

[alpine axle]

Also why can I not romance Ashura??

[loud bay]

I last played many months ago, is it possible to change your character's name now?

[weak wigeon]

I'm sure they'll make it possible at some point!!

[civic viper]

Because Ashura still has too much PTSD.

[weak wigeon]

i think you can if you send a ticket

[weak wigeon]

Yeah. Wouldn't it be amazing if they made him dateable at the same time they introduce ||his son and granddaughter||? So people could have closer interactions with them too

Also... Sifuu...

[alpine axle]

Yesssss

[weak wigeon]

oh my god that could be weird if you're dating Hassian. Maybe that's why they haven't done it yet. It'd be even weirder than dating Reth and Tish together i think

[primal girder]

People keep getting lost when hunting for flow trees and Pal nodes. Can we please get an optional grid overlay for the map?!

[alpine axle]

Fair, it would provide a great opportunity for some healing ❤️‍🩹

[weak wigeon]

Plus THEY SHOULD make relationships more dynamic, like, they get upset or sad like Tish if you date Reth too, but to break up with her, YOU have to do it. She will just complain about it but do nothing 💔

[alpine axle]

They already made it weird, just keep the train going 😅

[weak wigeon]

Maybe unique dialogues for poly relationships, mentioning other characters, and also for those players that have decided to just date one NPC

[weak wigeon]

also i've heard that if you break up with them everything stays the same, no dialogues, no feelings, is this true?

[clever cove]

i think they don't even have dialogue for it yet

[clever cove]

i like how they did poly relationships with nai'o and kenyatta, and how they are both aware of it and accept it (if you don't choose to break them up), kind of wish there's more of that

But from a writing perspective you'd have to account for a lot of variations and that could mean a lot of added work I still think it's worth it though, it'll give all the characters more depth and like they're aware of what you, the player, is doing

[weak wigeon]

wait can you "break them up"?

[clever cove]

yeah, I heard if you date one of them you get the option to tell them to break up with the other OR tell them you want to date them AND the other

[halcyon plank]

Has anyone else had a quest respawn? I did the great human bake off already and the pile of dirt came back to start it over lol

[clever cove]

yeah i got the list again but it doesnt start the quest all over

I call it the collectible shopping list in my quest pocket

[opal yarrow]

Several. I have a few redundant quest items.

And the ||mystery blueberry lover keeps coming back|| 🫐

[modern rock]

you don't technically break them up yourself. he ||will do it automatically because he feels weird about dating her when he's getting serious about you and he will only tell you about it afterwards. you can then allow them to stay broken up, or you can tell him that he can continue dating her (and optionally that you will date kenyatta as well).||

[weak wigeon]

oh i see

[loud bay]

Have they changed the cosmetic pricing btw or sold some cheaper sets at least? Last I've checked it was nuts especially with the whole league color chroma route I saw last time months ago, I originally wanted to get some stuff back then but not at that price range 😭

[weak wigeon]

i think no sales for now

[loud bay]

They have sales now?

[weak wigeon]

No haha, there were sales on christmas tho

[loud bay]

Ah okay nice

[weak wigeon]

There was a pack of 3 outfits for 850 or something like that, and gliders. Also linking switch acc gave a whole outfit too

[loud bay]

850 doesn't seem that bad

Yeah seems like they changed the pricing for a handful of sets since last I've played

Also sent a support ticket about updating my character's name

Going to try the game again and can't wait for steam launch

[weak wigeon]

Imagine a set of furniture inspired on the sea/mermaids that used shells to craft, woudln't that be awesome?

[kind gazelle]

Lauren dropped this 👑

[civic viper]

To the "witchy house" comment earlier...

I'm building a portal to another dimension. Ai! Ai! C'thulhu f'thagn!

[dusty yacht]

i'm taking so many screenshots of my game and whatever pictures of frogbert i can find from the server, because i'm in prime "write crochet patterns for the palia plushies" mode. i can't wait for this stupid giant frog

[tribal harbor]

Patch delayed!

[next parcel]

What is that table?

[warm python]

I'm shocked

[modest merlin]

NOOOOOOO

[old dirge]

Message announcing the Patch delay, no new timeline yet #📢│palia-news message

[wispy siren]

Wait where do we get those candles from?!?😱

[viscid merlin]

Anybody know how I can see what other stamps I need to do? I cant for the life of me swithc pages

[wispy siren]

I know in the past they said you are stuck with the name you choose so unless they have started changing names on request idk if you will.

[old dirge]

clicking on the yellow arrow on the right should od it

[odd orchid]

Happy we get to keep Hot pot a bit longer!! I’m a total addict!! I love playing it so much!! I wish we had a mini game we could sit at a table & play w/ friends on pit lot like that.. that would be such a draw to each others lots I think

[wispy siren]

The yellow arrow to the right of the squares

[vivid oar]

Sneaky yellow arrow

[viscid merlin]

Im blind LOL

[old dirge]

don't worry you're not the only to miss it

[wispy siren]

Took me a while the first time too

[viscid merlin]

TY ALL LMAO xD

[distant palm]

It’s a reward from spoiler: ||hodari’s level 4 friendship quest||

[wispy siren]

How many do you get? 😱

[fiery mango]

I am so conflicted on hot pot. I think I should leave it at I'm happy that others seem to enjoy it, but I think they could do a lot to improve the experience for solo players going forward.

[distant palm]

You get || a small and a large and the recipes for them ||

[serene dawn]

I love that the candles work now and that they're checking the updates before pushing them out. Bug fixes!!!

[viscid merlin]

I have accepted my fate as the troll under the docks at the market :p

[brisk spruce]

that happened to everyone on the server I was on early in the month! I wasn't smart enough to screenshot it though

[tall kayak]

Is there a way to fast track kicking someone from the game? There's a person preaching and causing a lot of issues right now. Has been reported and blocked by a bunch of the folks, but they're still causing issues

[viscid merlin]

i think its pretty funny, had some good fun laughing about it with other haha

[loud bay]

Yeah support is helping me out currently, I did remember reading they plan to eventually add a name update system without a ticket

[brisk spruce]

no way to do anything about it faster than just reporting them. unfortunately your best bet is to block them and if they're causing a lot of chat chaos then change server

[tall kayak]

That's a shame. Thanks for your help

[brisk spruce]

agreed, I had a good laugh when everyone started appearing down there too

[halcyon crater]

re: under the docks, I'm laughing because I ended up stuck down there once, but I did it to myself 😂 (glided under there looking for treasure chests... logical, right?)

[opal yarrow]

I mis-aimed a jump and fell through a gap in the docks 🫠

I sorted out my chest graveyard by type and honestly thought I had more.

[civic viper]

Ah, you've got a junk yard too, eh?

[raven hawk]

Ooh this is genius, I play on switch and even tho the chests don’t take up inventory slots, it clutters it up sooo much lol

[old dirge]

my chests are still a stairway to the sky - i started late so my one stack over the new height limit isn't as high as I wanted to get and all the rest are shorter

[opal yarrow]

I just dismantled my stairs. I'll rebuild it later once I place the gazebo.

[opal yarrow]

Dump out all your furniture into your spare plot. Easier to see what you have and actually use it.

[raven hawk]

I’ll definitely be doing this! Thank you for the idea!!

[opal yarrow]

One of the tents hold the wall hangings, and the other has my seasonal decor.

[civic viper]

I've spelled out words I can't share here with my chests.. and made ascii art too.

[old dirge]

I'm planning that too - one of my plots is named Furniture Store, just haven't done it yet

[dusty yacht]

oh that's so smart what the heck

[serene barn]

I'm definitely definitely not sad that the patch is delayed

[olive carbon]

Trunk yard? Insert junk in the trunk joke here

[halcyon crater]

trunk in the junk 🥁

[autumn kernel]

Ngl I’m pretty salty that I can’t put items on my kitchen equipment like this. Zeki out here hacking the system

He even gets the mirrored shelf!!!

[halcyon crater]

See, it's 'cause the dextroCapital Chic Large Shelf is a rare isomer of the craftable version, the levoCapital Chic Large Shelf (usually just called Capital Chic Large Shelf). It is only available through magical/Flow-using means to detect and separate them from their enantiomers. That's how Zeki has one. (/tongue in cheek)

[olive carbon]

Thanks for the tone indicator cause I was bout to be impressed by this high level answer

[loud bay]

Is there a way to upgrade chest storage?

[clever cove]

Yes, buy the chest upgrade recipes at tish's store, cash register

[desert slate]

i'm sorry 😦 this is just too goofy

[clever cove]

I didn't know that was a video so I thought that was human frogbert

[normal timber]

You actually can if you have another person on your plot that can edit and you drop both at same time.

[opal yarrow]

Do we know how many has wishlisted Palia on Steam. I'm curious to know how big Frogbert currently is.

[zenith plume]

You can with a little bit of clipping. Homestead floor cabinet fits perfectly underneath and you can't even see it poking out

[round lynx]

#📢│palia-news message

[zenith plume]

Can easily do it solo. Put cabinet down first. Line prep table in front of it. Pick up cabinet and move it somewhere else, but don't place it down. Press number key for another decoration piece to "cancel" the placement of the cabinet. It'll look like you placed the cabinet down, but that's just a ghost. Move your prep table back to where the cabinet used to be. Switch housing plots and switch back. Now prep table is on top of cabinet.

[proud mulch]

hello everyone! is there a way to make the graphics on switch a bit less blury? i have the dock connected to a monitor and that helps tremendously but still not very enjoyable not being able to see the details of furniture and clutter items to decorate my plot + among other small lil issues

[civic viper]

Corrective lenses? All I got, know nothing about Switches.

[placid haven]

Genius!

[loud bay]

For some reason the green fishing arcs is missing on my end

[tame sapphire]

That awkward moment when your two love interests visit you at the same time...

[cinder horizon]

#📢│palia-news message. 😂😂😂😂

[halcyon crater]

I end up with this sometimes, too, usually after I interact with something that takes control of my camera. When it happens to me, rezoning fixes it. I've gotten into the habit of always doing a no-bait "test cast" now...

[nimble adder]

how long do you think theyre going to delay the update?

[halcyon crater]

Depends how thorny the issue they found was, I think.

[opal yarrow]

Hopefully the void that opened up in the chimney smoke didn't summon something worse than the Elderbeast.

[nimble adder]

because i need to get some sleep but if i do and they update the game i wont be able to get all the special recipes from reth

i have two recipes left. the rice cake stir fry and the lucky braised fish

[halcyon crater]

The good news is that the earliest it would have been was in 6 hours. So you have longer than that now. but we don't know how much longer, is all

wait no, not six, 8

[nimble adder]

i cant set an alarm because my dangone phone is broke

[earnest stone]

Damn, i tought i could finish the wind temple today evning after bug fixes.

[verbal furnace]

I THINK NOT

[verbal furnace]

Rice cake stir fry is my new fave. The other one is a monster of a recipe

[lyric night]

the last time they delayed a patch it was roughly delayed by 5 hrs, we will know more once they are at work probably, but for EU its probably late at night if they delay the patch by a few hrs

but a less broken patch with a delay is better than a patch breaking just everything

[opal yarrow]

If this patch is broken, will it take another month for them to deploy a fix? I'd rather wait another day or three.

[verbal furnace]

I doubt it. I’m happy waiting for a complete patch than a broken one but I’d expect a few days at most

[earnest stone]

if it really only are like few hours the yeah, but their post read like its more 2 additional weeks

[verbal furnace]

Hard to say

[opal yarrow]

MOAR HOT POT

[unkempt palm]

The scream I just scrumpt when I saw i could equip this hair with the plaguedoctor mask

Switched to the pink set to make it match

[honest dome]

I do this! helps me separate out the collections for aesthetics too

[midnight oak]

I love this xD

[loud bay]

I got the rules for hotpot but how do I exactly get a count for winning cards? Been playing several games and doing the instructed card matches but not sure if I missed a step

[brisk spruce]

you need 3 matches in your hand at one time to win. the card you draw will be your 9th card to make your 3rd set.
here's an explanation doc a server member wrote up in case it helps!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MFRuzogOsiTXAJbccvtiS7nx0PIYWG7mr5Kk3q4YpBY/
(from this post #1202300408836665415 message which also includes some tips for the hotpot game)

[dense fractal]

hi, it’s not possible to add stuff but i’ll check what’s wrong, thanks

[manic granite]

well, it's clear for the stove why not, there is a pot rendered while you are in the process of cooking.

you could eventually try to not take the pot from the stove, when you finished your dish. But I don't know if it will last on the stove in this case

[supple grail]

thanks for this!!

[white stream]

You can glitch an item into the stove and achieve that. I got sashimi sitting on a prep table that way

[whole crater]

Any new content coming soon?

[wispy siren]

there was going to be a patch today with new content but they had to delay it

[loud bay]

Also apparently a lot of bug fixes, hoping one of them is the weird lag spikes that's been happening 😭

[frail otter]

No mention of the delay and rescheduling has me a little on edge lol hope they address this today

[dark sigil]

If there is no mention then it will definitely not be on todays later list.. maybe newt Tuesday or this Saturday i guess then

[lyric night]

I mean.. they announced the delay at the end of their workday, their next workday hasn't even started yet

last delay we had was roughly 5 hrs, we will see how it'll be this time especially bcs of switch

[coarse abyss]

I'm thinking about that as well, as if they found something that needs a new client build, that has to run through Nintendo as well. Sooo if there isn't a new announcement today, i would expect it around the end of this week, or next tuesday at the earliest

[lyric night]

hopefully it was nothing that needs a new client build, but thats probably the case we love nintendo,
would appreciate a notice tho if they had to submit a new build to nintendo instead of just sitting in the dark, but no announcement will very likely just mean that as well

[coarse abyss]

Yeah, i know. I really want the pavilion as well, as that would work quite well with my outdoors crafting area

Plus, i need to prepare a new home for Frogbert so it's also a perfect time to reorganize the rest of my plot as well

[lyric night]

its funny tho that the 2 patches which remove the maji markets have a delay
the other delay was when the first maji market left as well

[brisk spruce]

I did notice that as well lol although I misremembered what time it got delayed until

[civic viper]

With the passing of the Market, I know I will miss one thing more than any other:

Having all (most) the NPC's gathered together in one place, to find out what they want this week and to give them gifts without having to run all over Palia to track them down.

[brisk spruce]

it's possible to talk to every npc at once minus Najuma and Tamala in Kilima if you time it right

and... I guess a little jaunt for Einar as well

[lyric night]

was just delayed by 5 hrs, I remember seeing the new patch announcement when I woke up after a few hrs of sleep and couldn’t fall asleep so I've waited for the patch and played until the morning

[civic viper]

See, spread out... lol Market concentrates them.. just have to hunt down Tau and Hassian, since Hassian only brings excuses to leave to social gatherings, and Tau is a known hole-digger.

[brisk spruce]

no? not spread out. you can talk to EVERYONE minus 3 characters all within the actual town center if you time it right
there's less than that in maji market

[magic lantern]

I've maxed friendship already but curious what time?

[civic viper]

There's that, but that timing and my timing are out of alignment. My timing is based around my garden's needs. Gotta take care of the money first.

[brisk spruce]

I can't remember the exact time but it's when the Daiya family is leaving town. talk to them first before they run off to dinner and then you visit the library last, when some of the others that were out of the town (Jina, Hekla, Elouisa) are all there

Hodari before he leaves town as well and everyone else in between, the rest of them stick around longer

[civic viper]

Between 9:30 and 10:15 in-game, and that's assuming no one bothers the Diayo on their way into town, bothers Jina or her Nanny Egg on their way into Town, or Hassain and Tau on their way into town, as it throws off their path timing.

[magic lantern]

yeah I do remember noticing there seemed to be a sweet spot with all the kalima villagers mostly in town. but market has been nice for Hodari, Najuma, and Einar really

[brisk spruce]

yeah I wish Tamala would have shown up, easier to level her that way. I hate going out of my way for her lol

[civic viper]

Yep. Like I said, I'll miss having them concentrated in an area smaller than the run between Kilima town and the dock where Einar fishes.
I did make Friends 4 with Tamala. Now, if I see her, it's either because I'm being sent to her by a quest that has yet to be writ, or because we cross paths while I'm hunting Ancent Amber Beetles or Bluebristle Muujin. Otherwise, I rarely have a cause to venture that far in Bahari.

[coarse abyss]

I couldn't play much during the event so i had to cram a lot of things in the end. Made my last wish i needed for the stamp cards just yesterday. But now with the delay, it seems i didn't have to rush that much hehe. Maybe i'll get the starred food as well, as i didn't bother with those since i'll likely never find a place to display them anyways

[last socket]

so when is the update and how long is the delay for

[civic viper]

@coarse abyss You can always save your tokens and buy one of those food carts. They make nice displays.

[brisk spruce]

we don't know yet. they should say in #📢│palia-news when they figure it out

[civic viper]

The First Rule of Update Club is: You wildly speculate during Update Club
The Second Rule of Update Club is: Update Club only exists from the time Update Club starts until Update Club ends.

[coarse abyss]

I have everything else from the market stuff. Maybe i'll buy a few duplicates because why not

[lyric night]

definitely a bit more time to gather a bit more tickets for sure and a few duplicates

[coarse abyss]

Also... more hotpot

[brisk spruce]

I bought some extras of those baskets Zeki sells, I can't put taiyaki in them but... oh well

[civic viper]

@coarse abyssSame. I bought everything I wanted from there the first day. Everything else was just filling out the Stamp Cards. Spent most of my tickets on food, hotpots specifically... 500 focus each, 2 for a fill up, and no need to make a mess in my kitchen.

[lyric night]

u can put the other food items in them tho
and have a nice plate for teapot and cups or a bottle display for ur bathroom, the basket is definitely one of my fav items of the market even tho its rly small

[civic viper]

@brisk spruceNope, but Deliala does sell another dead fish looking food item you can place on that basket and fake it.

[brisk spruce]

not wrong, and that is why I bought extras I might still buy more if the patch is super delayed but I need to sleep soon so if it's just a few hours I'll probably sleep through the rest of the time

[coarse abyss]

I was kind of planning my day around Palia today, but i guess i'll just have a bit of extra time. I have to replace my PSU and my keyboard, which will be a bit of work. Wanted to finish it before the servers go live, which i can certainly do now

[frail otter]

Jesus…. Yikes…. All i said was ‘i hope they address it today’
not ‘ I hOpe tHey sTilL pLaN oN uPdAtInG’

[frail otter]

Thats what i was wondering too, before being treated like im d*mb for simply saying i was a little on edge about it lol

[civic viper]

@coarse abyss Must be nice... I have to plan my play time around my work schedule, which is doubled today, as today is also board-meeting day.
Yay, the joys of being an adult.

[brisk spruce]

the joys of being an adult also includes vacation days which some people choose to use during video game events/patches

[vocal cargo]

Ah, the joys of a toxic Discord. Stay awesome.

[coarse abyss]

Well i'm also at work right now

There are days when i can't really do actual work. But i did answer a couple e-mails, got a quote on a laptop repair, changed a few AD permissions. Simple stuff

[olive carbon]

inb4 iS PaLiA dEaD?!? 😆 no but valid, you're not the only one that's curious and wondering friend!

[frail otter]

O MA LAWRD WHAT ELSE AM I TO DO WTHOUT THE UPDATE LAWD Hahahaha 😝

[olive carbon]

But I do think it's good that they didn't give a specific date/time push as well, since I don't wanna be teased (😏)

[magic lantern]

to be fair they are barely waking up now so the lack of update on the update still makes sense

[frail otter]

No hey thats totally fair. I know how games and programming works so i understand that its not an easy thing to update a whole ahh game. Im just innocently hoping they address it OR give us a time frame.

[olive carbon]

I'm not impatient about it even if I was definitely excited about new stuff, but I can certainly pull on my big girl pantaloons especially if it means a better quality update

[frail otter]

Yeah but the point is was making was that i hoped they would address it today- no one said “FIX IT NOW” lol

[brisk spruce]

based on their communication recently, if they delay past today it's unlikely we'll get another announcement until they're actually ready to announce the new date/time. if it does end up being today and just a later time that'll definitely get announced though

[olive carbon]

Amd more hotpot that I can use as a way to practice my tight 15 comedy routine to my hostage audience 🤣

[vocal cargo]

They probably realized they accidently let an accessibility feature slip in so they have to remove it.

[olive carbon]

Le gasp, not the accessibilities

[coarse abyss]

That is my thinking as well

[magic lantern]

my point is that even if they address it "today" that's likely not til 11pm CET

they gotta wake up, have a coffee, look at code, meet, decide, draft a comms, etc

[frail otter]

You missed the part where i didnt expect the immediate update and that i was just being cheeky about its release.

[magic lantern]

tho maybe you're in the US so still have a chance at "today" lpl

[coarse abyss]

wakes up
sips coffee
"yep, that sure looks like code"

[vagrant meadow]

I can't look at code until at least half-way through the 2nd cup.

[opal yarrow]

"how dare they schedule updates during MY prime play time" was my favourite 🍵

[brisk spruce]

it's always someone's prime play time but also working in the middle of the night for patches when that's not your normal work hours is not fun so it makes sense for them to patch during their work day

[coarse abyss]

Yeah. They did a lot of work over the weekends after the beta launch, but they transitioned back to their regular working hours relatively shortly after

[brisk spruce]

yeah, makes sense

[magic lantern]

particularly if something goes wrong on the release. everyone needs to be very awake to roll back and triage etc

[coarse abyss]

Especially now that they have to roll back the switch as well, which i assume is a lot more complicated

[olive carbon]

Sorry but the use of the term triage here has me imagining the s6 team going full Grey's Anatomy on the switch, yelling "CLEAR" as they charge up the paddles to resuscitate it from a "server connection lost"

[coarse abyss]

I always think of triage carriers from EvE Online Oh, those were the days

[vagrant meadow]

It can sometimes get to that when trying to undo changes on an application without losing data.

[olive carbon]

WE'RE LOSING HER!

[brisk spruce]

jina blowing up the planet is canon

[olive carbon]

My sweet, sweet silly Jina (same Jina. Same)

sir they've just nuked palia

[vagrant meadow]

Did it get everyone or do we need to prepair for a retaliatory strike?

[olive carbon]

Those silly gooses illegal-ized flow sir, they have nothing to fight back with besides magical dispel arrows and fireworks

[olive carbon]

The natives are throwing chappas at us sir

[coarse abyss]

Or do they?

looks at a player chopping a tree, then getting launched into outer space by the moon-jin cannon

[frail otter]

This is comedy right here 🍿

[olive carbon]

"The sent a bomb loaded with...off brand mahjong tiles?"

[timid hawk]

We got smoke bombs too haha

[coarse abyss]

"These inhabitants employ some very advanced techniques. Do we have enough resources to sort this?"
"Yes sir!"
"Alright. So these ones are carbs, these are fish..."

[covert saddle]

Was informed a bit before anyone mentioned to me in here, thank you though.

[civic viper]

Mahjongg has 2 "g"'s.
Those tiles though.. they would make wicked shrapnel.

Been pelted with them once or twice when an automatic table has malfunctioned. They hurt.

[olive carbon]

That's...such an endearingly specific story

[civic viper]

@olive carbonYeah, well, those tiles do sometimes get caught in the mechanism and require a little coaxing to come out. When you unplug what you thought was the table, and it turns out to, in fact be the plug for the bluetooth speaker and you dislodge the stuck tile and the machine goes "I can move! Have a million tiles!"... things happen LOL

[olive carbon]

Oh I'm giggling, the music stops, indigo gets assailed by the Curse of Mahjongg, people are screaming, the table gets flipped

In all seriousness those things do seem like they'd hurt!

[civic viper]

They do.. no people screaming though... just me, a fussy table, and 144 mechanically propelled tiles boucing off my head while I ducked for cover and grabbed for the cord. Was pretty amusing after the fact. The other malfuction was child-induced. Small toy cars do NOT go in the tile return. They just don't. They make the table puke tiles with force.

[noble linden]

This game will be like Bloodhunt from early access to "full release". And I'm only saying this to reply my own message in the future if that happens, because it very much seems like it will.

[civic viper]

And that's why kids aren't allowed in the gaming parlor at the club. They can play in the kids area, especially now that I've green-lighted Palia as Approved Software. Might not ever get them out of the play area now LOL

[olive carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-meme-gif-7715402

[noble linden]

and it's funny bc they have it on nintendo just like BH had it on PS5

[olive carbon]

Honestly can't blame the tykes for trying, I'd also probably want to know if my hot wheels would work in the table and not have the self control in my tiny body to restrain myself

[civic viper]

For those who only know Mahjongg as a Solitaire game found on the internet, here's a really good explaination of the game. You can also see how our hotpot game was derived directly from it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IurYlebcTLk

[celest maple]

lmao instead delayed i readed deployed

[olive carbon]

walkie talkie static noises
Chhhhk, yeah the updates been deployed, over (for legal reasons this is a joke)

[civic viper]

Repeat: Broken Arrow!

[olive carbon]

I was getting Hunger Games parachute package vibes myself, or Tropic Thunder, whichever floats your paratroopers

[civic viper]

@olive carbonOther than I know it was a movie or two based on some books I've never had an interest in, I know nothing of Hunger Games. Wasn't Tropic Thunder a lousey TV series with Terry "Hulk" Hogan? I quit watching TV in 2004, so I really don't know much about what on there.

Ugh... we need more and better looking floor covering options. How about some nice polished hardwood and some carpeting? Carpeting is super simple - you make one and change the color pallet to make a million more.

[olive carbon]

Seconded. I'm really hoping for paths and fences too! I've seen creative uses for rugs as paths and other items for fences but I'm looking forward to some more options 🤞🏻

[weary void]

I think the same thing. I wish there was a way to preview the wallpaper and flooring. It’s hard to tell from a tiny square. I put it down and wonder why I wasted money on it because it looked better as a tiny square.

[weary void]

Cobblestone path, or a small stone path would look nice.

[honest scarab]

Are Funiture Accomplishments borked? I just made one piece each Moonstruck, Dragonfire, and Belleflower furniture and only got credit for common - or does rare mean type of furniture like bed? I have been playing since Aug and have yet to figure this out

[fossil sage]

Each furniture type has a rarity associated with it and a different color on its description when you hover over it 🙂 So yeah, like beds and mirrors are rare, pots and things are common, etc.

So you can just make rare log cabin or uncommon homestead items to fulfill your weekly each week, doesn't need to be the high end decor.

[honest scarab]

omg how dense am I? Never even paid attention to the color of the item description to figure out rarity like we do with other items. Thank you!

[fossil sage]

No problem!

[celest maple]

Hi Zeki.

[hollow crescent]

he really wants you to go to his store

[celest maple]

i hope mail will not gone one day, but this coin took much space so i let in my box

[olive carbon]

19/20 of them are: "We've been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty"

[hollow crescent]

[west marlin]

@covert plinth @hollow bramble do you know why the steam page doesn't mention the game being in beta or early access

Are we expecting to see a 1.0 release before it's out on steam?

[foggy gull]

How many i am so curious?!

[vagrant meadow]

I am. At least on Steam.

[west marlin]

I mean we gotta be or it would be weird they don't mention it on the steam page

Not that being in beta still is a bad thing, it's just a thing,that should probably be mentioned lol

[vagrant meadow]

Steam marks pre-release access (like beta) of games as "Early Access". You can even search steam for that term and see them all.

[celest maple]

about 50

[vagrant star]

There's not much time for that... Next one will still be 0.something, and the month after that it's already the steam release... So if we see any at all, it'll be at the same time, I'd say.
(To be honest, I don't care much about the version number, they should just make sure people know whether it's still in beta...)

[west marlin]

Yes I agree version number is meaningless
Honest marketing is what's important

[rocky furnace]

@vernal herald I found you! We were chatting in game. The game wouldn’t let me accept your community request.

[stuck oar]

Just looking to see if I can get some help with some research I'm doing.

• Has anyone gotten the: Cozy Ladder recipe from the rummage pile?

[civic viper]

I haven't seen a pile in 3 or 4 days, no, no Cosy Ladder here.

[vocal cargo]

Labeling beta would limit the number of people willing to play so they play both sides of the fence.

[tired willow]

Every pile I get is wood or stone or something lame

[hollow crescent]

i have not ill be on the lookout for one though

[alpine jungle]

Beta has a very negative connotation, this game is very well made and is pretty stable compared to most games I’ve seen on the beta stages of development so I’m guessing they’re avoiding labeling it that way when they promote it if possible so that people actually give it a try instead of going “well, I don’t wanna play it until it’s out of beta”

[rocky furnace]

Saved this. It’s where chapaa piles have been known to spawn

[civic viper]

That big "Beta" tag right on the laucher is about as honest as it gets.
But let's not kid ourselves either.. "Marketing" and "Advertising" are 100% about deception.
You think anyone has ever been chased down by a mob of bikini-clad runway models because they sprayed Axe body spray on themselves?
Are the new Tide Pods actually "10% better" and better than what? The old ones? A competitor's brand? Using nothing at all? This is the sort of language taught in universities around the world, where marketing and advertising are concerned - how to decieve without being deceptive, or how to lie-by-omission, as this ensures no legal recourse for the uninformable consumer.

[clever cove]

Palia is not stable enough for a full release though, Beta is more accurate. Every friend I've referred it to has noticed bugs pretty much within the first 10 mins, which shouldn't be a standard for non-beta games. I think when people know it's beta, they can make an informed decision to play a game and forgive its bugs (people like me), or hold off and play when its more stable (very reasonable decision)

[vernal herald]

I'll send you an invite to our discord group. If you are in a community, you can't join another.

[worn snow]

said beta tag is not on the switch launcher

[civic viper]

And don't even drag the UK into this, I already have the lowest possible opinion on their courts and ways of doing things.

[signal kayak]

that's because nintendo doesn't like fun, and doesn't like beta games on it's system, or so i've been told (at least about the beta thing, i've known for a long time that they don't like fun)

[alpine jungle]

They don’t like games that have to update frequently so something being in beta on the switch is still really difficult

[clever cove]

which like, fine, ok. But steam has always been very good with beta/early access games, a lot of EA/beta games have won awards in steam even (lethal company a huge example), so palia doesn't have a reason to not mention it on their steam page

[alpine jungle]

That’s why they updated switched from weekly to about once a month, the switch kinda makes it so they have to do things in chunks

[worn snow]

not a good reason to falsely adveritise, imo

[alpine jungle]

They might not have an option to with Nintendo but I do understand what you mean, maybe if they put it as the first thing you see when you open the game so people know that the game isn’t totally finished yet?

[civic viper]

Nintendo suffers from Apple syndrome. They think no one else can do anything right on their platforms. That concept nearly put Apple out of business from the time Motorola told them they'd have to find someone else to make processors, until their last-ditch effort to stay alive - the launch of the iPod. Had that failed, there would be no more Apple today.

[vague shell]

Just chilling at the shrine. 😁😂😁

[civic viper]

Summoning Elder Things from across Dimensions here.

[signal kayak]

but, at least there was nothing to loose with this game. it's free to download, it's free to play. you don't have to pay anything for it if you don't want to. and while yes, it would have been nice to let people know that the game was still in beta on websites and on the switch... you didn't lose anything monetarily, unlike other games that are supposed to be full releases spending 60+ usd and having to do updates the day of release. If you played for an hour, had fun but didn't like the bugs or glitches, you can put the game "on a shelf" so to speak and wait until later, which a lot of people did, or simply uninstall the game. But nothing was lost

[clever cove]

its true, but i dont think anyone is against palia being beta. Just wishing palia would put the "early access" label on steam like every other very successful early access/beta games on steam

[civic viper]

There have been successful Early Access/Beta games on Steam? When? Before the intial release of Skyrim?

[clever cove]

Lethal Company

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1966720/Lethal_Company/ On their steam page it says early access

Don't Starve before it got pushed out of beta years later

[brisk spruce]

the thing is, that isn't actually true. there are cosmetics in the shop to buy and people can very easily spend money before finding out it's still in beta (at least on Switch, and in the future possibly Steam), which not everyone is okay with doing.

[civic viper]

There have been a lot of EA/Beta games on Steam, and I've watched dozens go up in flames, including one where the Developers just flat out said the community was toxic, the expectations and depands unrealistic, and they were DONE with Steam. There've also been tons of Bailware and Abandonedware games, as well as a litany of outright scams, some still ongoing, from developers who promise the world, deliver low-quality garbage, take the money and run, and have a repuation for doing it.

[worn snow]

i think if nintendo was going to be as bad as u all say about it, they should've just. not worked with nintendo. if nintendo sucks so bad and wont let them aptly adveritise their game, WHYYYY are we working with them??

[signal kayak]

because switch is the ultimate cozy game system

[frank mist]

because that eliminates a large # of ppl who willplay the game in or outside of beta

[brisk spruce]

Slime Rancher was an incredibly successful Early Access game on Steam

[clever cove]

There are a lot of successful EA/Beta games as well, The Finals, Phasmophobia, Valheim, Palworld, the list goes on. The fact is, you can still be successful on steam even with an early access label

[signal kayak]

you can take it literally anywhere and play the game

[worn snow]

and that's a good reason to falsely adveritise to people playing on said system????

[frank mist]

who said any of that lol

[signal kayak]

and again, people can say yay or nay to the game after they download, play a while and see if it's for them or not. they lose nothing

[frank mist]

yeah.. choosing to spend money on cosmetics is a decision players will have to own for themselves.

[vocal cargo]

You should value your time more

[civic viper]

Why? Here's exactly why:

[brisk spruce]

but they can still do it without knowing the game is in beta if the storefront they get palia from doesn't say it.

[vagrant meadow]

Except I can't plug the Switch Lite into my TV.

[civic viper]

Plus, licensing for Switch development only costs a fraction of PS or XB development costs.

Not my responsibility to know which Switch is which. I don't have one, I don't want one.

[signal kayak]

if it wasn't that i had to work, i would be a hermit living in my apartment without ever leaving it

[frank mist]

Imo choosing to spend real dollars on digital cosmetics either is important or it isnt. You risk "losing" money any time you do this, whether a game is fully published or not. MMOs have gone down in the past after people have sunk in thousands. Regular games have been pulled offline, out of production etc.

[brisk spruce]

Some people are okay with spending on fully released games and potentially losing out but NOT okay with spending on beta games though 🤷‍♀️ you make too many assumptions about what people are okay with spending their money on. I've seen the complaints from people who found out the hard way after Switch launch

you're trying to overgeneralize everyone into "you either spent on cosmetics or you didn't" instead of "you're okay with spending money on cosmetics in x, y, z" situations, which is more often the case

[frank mist]

I'm not making any assumptions, that's just the truth. Buying digital content there is always a risk of losing access to it. I agree the company should be straightforward and very honest about what status the game is though. Both are true.

[civic viper]

@signal kayak I am a hermit, who lives 3/4 of the year on a boat and I work every day. I'm working right now too.
If there is something to complain about, including the lack of anything to complain about, someone will complain. That's just people.

@frank mist You mean like Anthem?
The most hyped and markested game in the past 10 years that they not only pulled the plug on, but also remote-wiped from the systems of the people who bought it?

[frank mist]

Idk anything about that game. That's wild though. edit: Im not saying its justified, on the company's end. they should be honest and its weird they arent.

[clever cove]

I personally really love Palia. I think people should give it a chance, because yes it's free and there's no paywall to content aside from cosmetics, and it has a nice chill atmosphere and a lot of promise. But like, I want people to try it with the knowledge it is in beta, so they can make the informed decision to play the game and run into bugs and understand it's in beta; when people play a game uninformed, they get super angry and frustrated at the bugs and you see that a lot in the quest-help/gameplay-help because they were misled into thinking it's a full game If people know it's a beta game and know they would HATE the bugs, then they can choose to sit and wait and play when it's more functional and avoid all that frustation

[vocal cargo]

It is a shady business practice but then again, S6 still advertises Palia as an inclusive and accessible game.

[civic viper]

Anthem was a great game. You were a Javelin pilot (power armor). You ran around, doing missions, fighting world bosses, or just free-roaming the world. But yeah, they called it quits, and sent a remote-wipe as an "update" and the next day, software completely gone without a trace.

[frank mist]

🙃 a great way to guarantee no one ever buys a game from them again

[worn snow]

literally me thats the question ur answering. my point ab the switch was bc they're falsely adveritising by not putting the beta label on it.

[worn atlas]

valheim I think also Raft was early access when I got it 🤔

[frank mist]

i dont think its a good reason, there isnt a good one. u asked why would they even deal with nintendo despite their weird rules and that's why.

[worn atlas]

I stand by this so hard tbh.

[warm python]

However you feel about Nintendo, it was S6, not them, who scrubbed off the label. If Nintendo only wants to sell new cars, S6 isn't in the clear for rolling back the mileage on a used one ala Ferris Bueller just to put it in the dealership. Not a perfect analogy, but you get the point. This is only supported by the fact that S6 hasn't put Early Access on the steam page. Nintendo didn't force them to do that, Steam didn't force them to do that, but they're misleading audiences again anyway.

[civic viper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFwylDNpgFc (release trailer)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL5GSfs9fi4&list=PLtUuE0-_HC1-HK5AL-tW4itYgRxzxxEHx&index=12 (pre-release gameplay)

And I really don't think anyone is going to stop buying EA and Bioware games. EA owns the Sports game market. Bioware makes great games.
Stunt yeah, ticked off a lot of people and didn't slow down sales of the next Call of Doody or Madden in the slightest.

[worn atlas]

me not understanding a word of your analogy, unfortunately:

[civic viper]

@worn atlas Valhiem? Puke. Hate it. Shut down my server over a year ago. Absolute garbage.

[worn atlas]

I love Valheim so much !!

[warm python]

Passing off a used car as a new one, to put it more succinctly. Or in this case, I guess more of a car that hasn't even been fully built and gone through safety testing.

[frank mist]

yeah im really not into cosmetics as a whole. i did buy bc i would like to see palia grow, but its really unfortunate that its the base model for so many games now. in-game purchases, especially when the game already costs $60!

[worn atlas]

I still have so much to explore in it. It's an absolutely fantastic game to play with friends. My buddies are building the most gorgeous stuff,, aaaa

[signal kayak]

but also, shouldn't people be responsible to do research into things? the game has been available for pc players (if they wanted to) in closed beta since August. During that time, if people were really, truly interested in a game, wouldn't they do some form of research like computer specs to see if they could even play the game on their system? I mean, just typing in Palia into google and actually reading the screen, not even going into a website you can find that it "launched into open beta late 2023 with full release planned for 2024" wikipedia

[civic viper]

You are the one person I have ever heard admit it. Even my wife, who loves RTS/Survival AND Norse mythology was repulsed by it.

[vocal cargo]

S6 had the choice of removing the beta tag or waiting for it to go on the Nintendo store. S6 chose to remove the tag. Zero blame goes to Nintendo.

[clever cove]

I enjoyed valheim too

[worn atlas]

Okay man, that sounds like You-Problems tbh,, /lh
All my friends love it !! I'm talking like,, 6 people 😭

• their friends lmao, idk how many they are

[clever cove]

I did scream a lot in valheim on voice chat when i saw the blue smurf giants

[frank mist]

yeah. its a misleading thing to do to scrub 'beta' off the title screen but at the end of the day, doing your own research before mindlessly spending money or supporting things is the best power you have as a consumer, aside from your money.

[vocal cargo]

So you're saying it is okay to mislead consumers? That is amazing.

[warm python]

Steam page shows the specs. And you obviously don't need to worry about specs on a console. Players that see it on the store front have no reason to need to do outside research. You shouldn't have to do outside research on a game, the storefront should be truthful.

There is zero excuse to lie by omission on the storefront.

[north adder]

When I learned it was a beta It made me want to actually spend money on cosmetics to support it

Its an INCREDIBLY WELL MADE beta!

[vagrant meadow]

Steam got successful by doing the research for the buyer and giving a reasonable refund policy. Their minimum quality standards may not be what we want but they are better than what came before.

[alpine jungle]

The game is literally free, they don’t push you to pay them and you can do everything in the game without paying, there’s no reason to complain

[worn snow]

yes exactly thank u

[civic viper]

@worn atlas It could be, but I still run an Empyrion: Galactic Survival server with around 100 active players, two Ark servers and a Rust server, each accounts for an average of 150-200 players.
It is a "me" problem that I do not find any redeming qualities in Valheim? Maybe, but I'm also very close friends with a couple Heathen and Asatru trods who also want nothing to do with it. But hey, if you like it, you like it. I don't have a problem with that. I just do not.

[vocal cargo]

The number of people that put zero value on their time and defend companies misleading consumers dumbfounds me.

[signal kayak]

i was interested in Dreamlight Valley when it was first announced. thought it was amazing idea. Disney characters and animal crossing. I watched the trailer, then i looked for people who downloaded the game and tried it out. One reviewer said for the switch players to wait and see how well the game performed on the switch, so taking their word, i waited. and waited. the switch version by what i saw crashed multiple times to the point some people said that it was unplayable especially if you were decorating. Had i just blindly bought the game, i would have been out the 70 dollars for "early access".

[worn snow]

just bc something is free doesnt mean i cant complain about it 😭 s6 isnt a charity. they chose to make it f2p bc they think it will make them more money, not bc they're especially wonderful people.

[signal kayak]

did palia have a stream page before the announcement that it was being released this march?

[civic viper]

Really interested in Light No Fire. That's probably going to be the next title I buy.

[worn atlas]

I think it did!

[warm python]

It did, yeah. It didn't have a release date but it did, no mention of early access then either