#š¬āpalia-discussions
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We need a license to craft but not a license to run water. This brings in an interesting set of implications. Are all players running on illegal well water?
you can also take a doodoo in the shipment box, and sell it as a "fertilizer". the catman sells it so why cant I :DD D
but what other instances are things needing to be obtained illegally for??? why would it be less expensive to sell something illegally, the government doesnt usually regulate prices
Because stolen goods are most likely sold cheap in black market, since the risk of getting caught selling them normally. The reason why cheaper is, because there is a risk with the buying of it as well, so if it wasnt cheaper they'd just go to a normal store
Stolen goods cheap. Illegal goods expensive.
Toilet expensive.
Toilet illegal.
Do any of the NPCās have bathrooms?!?
I mean they can go higher than the normal selling price point since prices are unregulated compared to legal goods.
Yes prety much. Toilet illegal cause it would ruin fertilizer production amount
but the reason u would run a black market is bc people need to get these things hence u would run up the prices on it because there's so much demand. same reason u would steal something for your black market, is bcos a lot of people want that specific thing
So what you are saying is⦠toilets might not be illegal but Zeki is filling a gap in the market. In which case, this is very unethical because Zeki could be bribing the mayor with sandwiches to stop any bathroom vendors from coming into town⦠think about itā¦
There can be many sellers in a black market, doesnt necessarily consist of a single entity selling things.
Been awhile since I played because of lack of content. Coming back now and seeing there is a new vault, more customizations, recipes, etc.
I was told the drop rate of flow trees and palium ore has increased?
sorry for spamming, but yes! palium ore specifically got a buffed spawn rate.
plus Star Stones
When did the buff happen and how much of a buff did it get?
Was really waiting more on a buff to either more flow trees on the map or more wood per tree. Are the flow trees finally better as well?
I swear there will be a conspiracy why toilets are forbidden.
steps:
- Mayor needs money due to lack of taxes,
- The mayor steals all poopoo when people sleep.
3: thats why players never poopoo
4: The fertilizer that looks like poopoo is being sold from Zeki, the mayor would look too suspicious to sell it himself so he provides Zeki with it, and gives Zeki a cut of the product
5: The fertilizer stocks in the shop are INFINITE due to how little its being bought compared to everyone producing it so much.
6: Thats why there are a lot of windmills around the place cause they gotta dry the poopoo
Summary : Thats why toilet expensive cause it ruins business and would cause a collapse of governmental taxing system
Thats why mayor always nervous too I figured it all out I think
Okay sweet. More nodes is good. What about the flow trees? More flow trees? More wood per tree?
I know there was supposed to be the patch of trees every palian day.
Or they could add player markets that would be regulated with economy guidelines
no change to trees yet
There are no updates yet about the flow trees in this update.
Ah theres a discussion channel for that feedback too, thanks
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I don't think they need to nerf starstones. They have given us upteen plots to decorate. If I had to grind to get the decorations for all those I wouldn't do it. I do think that maybe it should be level specific - but it's kinda too late for that now.

they said the stones were meant to be a lot to help boost the economy so i doubt they will nerf them
We needed the boost!

I would bet a stack of rubies that something is going to get nerfed, once the devs realize what they have done. If cake parties were too profitable, then palium farming is certainly going to be seen as too profitable also.
Either palium spawns are going to change, or the price of those highest value gems is going to get halved.
Unfortunately not. My next large room wouldn't cost 39k if that were the case. I've seen someone say that the price for additional harvest houses caps at 130k (because you can only buy up to 9 apparently) but I'm not there yet so I can't say for sure
Man what if give to see some of them rubies xD
At that point I wouold quit the game. I realize they may have made an error with the cakes but they knew full well what they were doing with the gems and had data to back it up. There would be no reason for it.
I use paliapedia myself but an in-game tool would be best, is what I was trying to say
I'd expect this game to continue to have a lot of trials and error over the next few years, and because Human ā¢ļø , I'd reason to say that even years down in the future the game could still require rebalancing as features get added / changed etc.
Well, I would brace for impact. The devs basically deleted solo cooking from the game because some people were making like 50k/h after hours of organizing and farming necessary materials. Surely they are willing to tweak the price of gems to prevent people earning just as much with a pickaxe and 10 minutes of prep work.
I stand corrected as I checked my store in the City Hall. Housing pieces do increase their cost after buying them multiple times.
Oh, and I'll just add one more thing: cooking parties are generally viewed as a very communal and cooperative experiences, and that is sort of inline with the general feel of the game. Whereas the rabid palium farming tends to get rather competitive at times and cause a bit of friction, just by the nature of how the node spawns work and the open world aspect of it.
Having that sort of thing as the top earning activity is probably not great for the feel of the game either.
Ohhh, I see! Thank you, Judy <3
other than gifting to villagers... is there anything I need starstones for? or should I just sell?
Just sell
I don't think mining actually tops cooking at the moment though... The most I've seen in terms of earnings was someone who got 80k in 4h (just a little less that the ~23k/h from a cake party). But it depends on RNG so your earnings could be way worse. To top it off you need to actively run around looking for nodes whereas cooking parties have a lot of downtime and repetition, meaning you can do something else while you're at it (watch a movie, play a mobile game, etc)
8k seems too good to be true lmao
But you see, you don't have to run around looking for nodes, if you know how it works. That's the sort crux of the issue.
Cooking wasn't a problem either if you just randomly cooked things.
It's very much an issue where they need to fix one little thing but they take a sledgehammer to it instead
Are you suggesting standing solo next to a specific node and waiting for it to respawn? Because that would take forever for very little profit. And if you mean palium parties, you do have to run around constantly during those. Because the nodes respawn fast. If you've got enough players, that is
Hmm... Lets see if I managed to do this correctly.
I am suggesting you watch this for a bit and then extrapolate that for an organized group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWHCYtKQjWk&ab_channel=Tommyknocker
Yeah! Paliaplanner uses the Paliamap app, which you can link to your game as an overlay 
That's why I mentioned it, just forgor to specify.
https://palia.th.gl/en/download
Has filters/trackers for exploration, weekly gifts, etc
I do agree it being implemented ingame would be best. 
It's amazing that now we have better singleplayer
making methods, though. I'd be quite sad if they nerfed this. 
Sure, cake parties/apple pie parties are fun every now and then, but they can easily get ya burnt out if you're not an extrovert
Now you can have a just as good singleplayer
income by
+ 
Yeah, it tends to be the nature of this game that if something is good solo, it's completely broken in large groups. Not really sure how to address that quite frankly.
Hrrm with ores it's different, bc the ore respawn can be just as fast if done solo, if not faster since there is no distractions/having to wait for everyone to get a hit 
Generally
parties are just more fun, rather than efficient.
But that clearly isn't true though. If you cut down say a big palium node it will instantly spawn to another completely predictable spawn point on the map. So, more people makes it spawn faster. Enough people will make the spawns almost instant for everyone.
Sure, most people are doing the farming by blind luck at the moment, but I bet lot of people are making more gold than you can imagine.
If you cut down a big palium node OR a stone node in the spawn point (there are determined Pal spawn points), it has a chance of spawning.
I've participated in
#1143270926394335282 a lot, and the Pal rate is lesser than in solo, bc it needs to be 3-4 ppl max per ore spawn so that everyone can get a hit on each Palium Node, and oftentimes people go AFK and whatnot
If someone is bonking a Palium on a specific side, they will take a while to get to the other side for the Palium, so you have to wait to break that Palium
Trust me. If you do it correctly only palium will spawn. There is no randomness to it.
Which is clearly demonstrated by that video I linked just now of me farming yesterday morning on an empty server.
Ooooh! I wonder if the spawn rates for Palium got changed that drastically this patch. I'll go check 
It has been same for at least a couple of patches. Probably always.
The spawn rates? No, those got increased this patch
They also got increased in the patch where the Oyster Shells got yoinked.
Ah, yes.. the amount of palium nodes on the map was increased. The spawn method was not affected.
They definitely respawn faster despite the patch notes not mention it directly
You can mine south of flooded fortress, run north to mine those and then run back south again now and they have respawnd
Don't know about the Oyster shells. Probably happened before I was even playing.
They 100% do
@olive sphinx 8/15, patch 0.166
for Oysters
Well, they can't spawn faster than instantly... Just look at the video. It will open your eyes.
Can't watch the vid right now but I believe you
All this lettuce talk, why can we not grow it eh?
It is a mystery...
(Well, not really... Can't grow chocolate where I am from either even though I talk about it constantly.)
Clearly pumpkins and lettuce are imported goods!
Or.. they are controlled substances and it's illegal for us to grow them for some reason... š¤
I wanted to make a loop house so I could have a courtyard in the middle full incased but turned out the ammount of rooms limited is sort by like 1 š
How does this work? Nodes don't normally respawn this way
They do normally spawn that way. And have done so for as long as I have been paying attention.
When a palium node is broken it will instantly spawn to the next empty palium spawn in the queue. Queue is determined by the order in which the nodes are broken.
The stones follow the same pattern. If you do not break the stones (or palium) then they don't spawn at all.
Never was that much of a issue/benefit to doing it until they added all those expensive gems in there. Now it's... very profitable.
Does it work global on the map? Like does Palium spawn more if all the nodes for example in Bahari Bay are being mined? Like if i“m at the geyser mining, and someone else is in the mines, do the geyser nodes spawn Palium more frequently? If you know what I mean
One thing I've noticed is the spawn rate has dropped right off compared to last few days and the Ruby seems much harder to get now.
means if you were the only one breaking nodes you could go in one cave in circle? but because many players break nodes all around the map you never know where the next will appear?
Yes, it includes all the palium spawns on the map.
Thank you. This changes a lot. If palium nodes are untouched except for the 1 spot you mine = less Palium for you
True.. or you could organize and all get rich.
Splitting up your team spread on all palium nodes seems to be the better choice then, ofc with the risk you don“t share the starstone drops
And when I say rich.. I mean probably at least 120k an hour rich (wild estimate). And that is a bit of a worry for the health of the game.
I“ve tested a few times on just 1 location not knowing the status of the server, but every time if does get me around 20K+ per 30 minutes ish. I was also concerned with the economy of the game.
but spots like mines or tamala are kind of meh, mine is so much running and tamalas cave has noch enough spots for my taste, same with windy, windy is doing much geyser work if you want to do downstairs and upstairs - so the persons at hideaway, flooded north side and proudhorn have a very big advantage in terms of work to do while farming
That“s true as well, I suppose finding a good strat around it will benefit everyone
I would say if there was player to player sales it might not be good for game health but as it is now the only thing you can buy are rooms, decorations and furniture. In my eyes it doesn't matter much to me if my neighbor gets 1 million a day.
You can just keep the stone nodes in the bad spots and use the good spots for the palium spawning. You would only need like 20 or so spots.
Does it feel easier now to obtain anything gold-related? Or do people think it“s pretty alright. I understand everyone plays differently, but personally even if I“m not grinding a lot, I still think the economy could use a balance
My go-to plan for the Palium is at Pavel Mines loop mining: top-to-bottom > Flooded Fortress entrance > going back to the top via geyser, the respawn time is looping very well
There is no economy
the stones will get destroyed and someone would need to circle those so thats a pain as well with much running and the risk of someone screwing your rotation
Well I mean buying upgrades, zeki coins, wallpapers etc. Does it now feel easier getting it, or just right? With this extra way of gold making
Depends on how many people are on board. It's not unheard of for a group to take over a whole server.
It feels just right but I never really did cake parties. I've done 2. I am at max everything but still working on guild items. That's doing it alone. Never joined a palium party or FT party. Granted I don't have a lot but I have what I want.
Thanks for your input! What do others think?
but kind of rare, we are most of the time like 2 groups and it still feels impossible to stop randoms from destroying the spots your groups dont farm but yeah its possible in rare cases 
Well there is no economy per se, but there is an expected rate at which the devs want you to progress through the game.
Do you think the average player follows that rate? Or faster
I hate the word "randoms" Just because you decide as a group to go farm together some think that those resources are theirs. Makes a really bad feeling for those that play alone.
Zeki Coins is like endgame, even with over 3 mil spent (probably very close to 4) im not there yet - and i play much
(never did cake parties) and i guess the devs also need to see that casuals dont fall behind because many cant play much cause of work or family but they are a source of income for skins
but yeah in the end mining feels more worth now - trees would need something like starstones as well now š
Not sure how to answer that question. I think most people would like to progress faster if given the choice. However, once there is no more things to achieve most people will quit.
@olive sphinx I've watched the video and I have no idea what exactly you're showing by it. Yeah, you're breaking lots of large palium nodes that conveniently spawn one after the other, but you don't explain anything... How exactly does it work? The first spot you're in I used to farm that a lot and not once has palium spawned like that for me... why? Second question, how are nodes not reapawned by the time you get from one location to another? These days I farm the pal in Pavel mines same nodes like in tour vid. I start top, by the time I hit the nodes down and fly back up everything's respawned...
I see! Thanks again, it“s nice to hear other people“s thoughts
In my opinion the ranking of the most profitable skill now sets are: Mining (starstones) > Gardening (worm farms and seed collectors) > Cooking (parties) > Hunting > Foraging > Bug Catching (honey lures) > Fishing
Well yes, it was only meant as a demonstration. The explanation is that when you break a palium node or a stone node in a palium spawn it will instantly respawn to the next available spawn on the list. So, there is no randomness to it and no spawn timer.
The order is constant and the number of palium and stones and empty spots are constant.
Wait.. wait.. I was about to say I never witnessed that happening on my mining runs, but... the 'list' you mention is map-wide, right? So if I break a stone in top pavel and by the time I break the next one, some other person breaks a stone in Tamala's cave, the order will be 1st Pavel node -> Tamala node -> 2nd Pavel node? So if Pal pops up in first pavel node and I break it, it will immediately spawn one in Tamala's next? Am I getting it right?
Yes, that is the way it works. Although there are a more empty nodes. it will take a while to cycle around.
Yeah, it was just a very basic example to see if I got it right. That's interesting... I'm good on palium from just my regular runs and I'm nearly always at gold cap, so this was more of a curiosity to understand the mechanics of ore spawning. Thanks. But it seems hard to pull off consistently, unless you get the whole server on board... or the server's empty.
True. Neither is impossible though.
And that is why something is going to get nerfed in the near future.
What I really want to see, other than the ongoing bug fixes, is landscaping items. I love trees but that can only go so far.
I'm curious: what sort of new produce would you hopefully like to see become growable? Lettuce would make sense lorewise, and I'd like more trees, but I guess it depends what would be most useful for other aspects of the game?
PUMPKIN

I just wonder when the next crop drop is, with a bit of research we can simply find out which crops will be added in the future (they have prepared lots lol)
Cabbages....for reasons.
HI! Can we buy any of tree seeds?
I play on my own in short blocks of time. Haven't leveled anything past 6 and I might be able to add a porch on my house if I want to forgoe recipes for weapons (which I already do)
I agree, it could definitely use a balance
I see, thank you 
Gold is stupidly easy to get atm, for early on that'd be mining amongst everything else, for late game mining isn't even necessary but an ok sideline should you really HAVE to have every single zeke reward ever.. lol
Thanks for your input!
I'll copy in this nice answer to your question
#š¤āgame-help message
Does anyone know about this cave? I find it in a crack inside the cave with two geysers, It looks like its related to quest
You found it!
Hehe, it's known..
some think perhaps it's there for future content
Is the bookworm set just gone from the shop?š¢
its textures are broken right now so they removed it, temporarily
It has a texture issue, but will be back in 0.173!
oh okay, as long as they are bringing it back im happy !
rummage pile loc!
i just started playing a week ago, so i never experienced cake parties or previous big gold earning things they changed. whenever i happened to mine a starstone i was so excited! it allowed me to upgrade my backpack quickly, which helped me enjoy the game far more. i hate limited inventory space, it really kills my vibe cause i'm a big collector and like to grab all kinds of things on runs. i'm constantly running out of backpack space. even now lol but hopefully at some point i'll be able to afford the 50k one. but yea starting out, it takes awhile to make gold so those stones gave me a boost that made my experience far more enjoyable!
i've been hunting and farming to earn gold now that i got the copper arrows and seed collectors. farming has been fairly profitable for me and i know it will be even more once i unlock preserve jar and fruit. so far i've been able to buy a hallway, small room, and a medium room! and all the soil plots. it seems like a decent balance right now for gold earning, maybe a lil grindy but i guess mmos are generally that way? but i think cozy games should be less grindy and more relaxing, i think this game has a decent balance, cause it's fun/relaxing to do a lot of the things and doesn't feel too grindy.
the only thing that feels really grindy to me is last night i realized the way housing slots work is that you have to buy all new stuff for the housing slots... that kinda seems extra, i wish it was more like a "closet " where you could use the items you already own on first slot on the second slot. but ah well i'm not even close to that point in the game rn anyways lol
also i wish more stone was given in mining nodes i literally never have enough stone for glass or bricks , and i wish there was more clay too lol, like more spread out since it's just like only at the bottom edge of the map
sorry for the rambling just wanted to share my experience as a newer player!!

Thank you! 
I also wish we had unlimited storage space. I find myself not doing things as I know it will top up my storage, collecting, harvesting my garden. Now with mining, the starstones which I love, precious space. I'm a hoarder, and I love farming but a part of me dreads new crops and collectibles being added for this reason solely. I want to grind š
yes i completely agree. im a new player and already reaching the storage limit set by the 8 wooden chests. i know when i unlock the larger chest recipes that storage space will increase, but i still feel its strange that im approaching the wooden chest storage limit after only playing for a week. ofc ive been super obsessed and i dont have a job or kids so ive been playing a /lot/ every day but still lol. im afraid im gonna run out of space p soon. š and im also a hoarder. i want to keep like a few of each insect and fish and other stuff in case the npcs want them or i need for a quest or somethin
I found a typo, it's Akwinduu, not Akwindu
it's really weird that plants ticks 1 final time after logging out while crafting continues even while being offline.. Not sure why they went that direction with gardening
Presumably to farm engagement off us, by having us have to log back in for crops lol

Hopefully, they make the resources spawn faster or atleast have each players have their own resource stuff like for mining I go in sometimes and nothing is there. Sometimes it's empty T_T
Again, I think nodes should be client side instead of instance side, so that everyone can gather everything, think of the chapaa piles, that everyone can loot and it doesn't disappear for others
Yes! Cause I saw someone mine a copper node and it disappeared qAq and I was like aaaaa nooo! It's gonna be hard getting stuff.. maybe put it on player feedback!
Damn i love it so much
Nodes respawn very fast so while client side would be nice for solos, it's definitely not needed
what a mood, needing copper and seeing someone snatch a node
My heart sank when I saw that 30 fps node Crack xD
I wish there is a way to like move in with people in this game or like a have a group housing. š
Community or guild houses would be nice, like in gW2 or even better, LOTRO
Right!? TuT it be so nice š© I won't be lonely at home Aaaaaaa
Is this the group where we can share with the dev's? Proudhorn and Blue Chapaa loot. I've hit lots of those animals, and gotten credit for the take down, but I almost NEVER get the loot. I'm usually not present when the take down occurs. The people who take them down don't normally post loot location on the chat. Three times I've gotten loot despite at least 12+ assists. It is pretty generic loot. Azure chapaa tail and proudhorn antlers should be standard in those loot bundles because odds of getting them are extremely rare. I've gotten those zero times. The grind to reward ratio too low for my taste.
There are two Reths in my compass >.>
Iām 99% sure that Reth and Zeki are sometimes cloned when transitioning between the underground and overground
The more you upgrade your pickaxe the more clay & stone youāll get per stone
Flow tree in Kilima!? >.>!!!
i did not know that! just got the fine pickaxe the other day. hopefully i can get the one after soon :> thanks for the info
Maybe Iāll open a cafe in palia
another flow tree
Yes this recipe is indeed bugged (as you said) - it asks you to make a ton of ingredients that don't actually get used in the recipe. I did chop a tomato first though just in case, even though it did not prompt me to do so.
Yeah, the options I feel like are moreso to have a variety of choices for the quality-determining ingredients (eg. type of catfish + quality of your veggies used) 
It doesn't really ask for them, it's moreso the option (if you ignore the UI jumping). But the issue comes when you use the ingredients you can, and then maters are no longer allowed 
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hiiiiii
@viral imp there's always been flow in kilma.Kilmarnock.. just not as many. People don't farm the trees there as much so they don't pop up...
It wouldn't let me use any of the extra ingredeints. If you notice I have 4 extra items chopped at hte bottom of thes creen, but it woudln't let me add them to the dish. The dish auto completed once the salsa adedd.
i go two rubi straight in 2 mineral
Now I see why im not getting them š
been mining for an hour and ive got 2 rubys and like 6 amethysts
@delicate delta I feel like Eshe somehow is responsible for preventing me from fully scaling this roof
How darn rude of her. Running on rooftops is a the most fun part of any city
Scrolled up and: There is no economy in this game. And for every nerf that tries to drag out grinding time to retain players, you're likely going to lose more frustrated with said nerfs and slow progress. I'd be curious to see the numbers myself. When there's no player to player trade, market board, or anything of the like, it doesn't really matter. It absolutely baffles me that people keep calling for nerfs every time something happens that allows players to make money at a decent pace from more than one method. It's the laziest way to drag out playtime instead of actually putting things in to keep players' attention and keep them wanting to play.
And people need to realize that not everyone has several hours a day to play, either
Anyone else having connectivity issues?
yes, chat just disconnected
Beacon client failed to connect - I can no longer leave my housing plot.
Nope all good here
this is happening to me as well!
It worked on my 7th try and a reboot of the client.
oh let me restart then ty
the way they implemented these "rummage piles" was also atrocious, it looked like a cry for help, something to make players login again and they made it especially crappy to have to find the thing or depend on others to find it, left me baffled tbh
they could have made it appear on your own plot and let it accumulate a few days so returning players have a little gift, our plots are huge
instead they made it something annoying and not really welcoming imo, just something else to do once a day to show those "top daily active users" numbers to the execs..
omg another ruby lmao
You taking them all! š
ahah same~ I could show you a pic of my current bag LOL
honestly so many of the decisions made make me feel like a big part is for The Numbers to show their investors
I guess that is one thing to do with your time
Current Bag run ā¤ļø
did someone see whats behind our plots, there is this area with this tree, and the collapsed mine, and invisible structures, that seem like they might add something to the plots soon
it's been there since forever
Yeh I guess, just never bothered to run around my plot I guess
have all these spots been there since for ever as well?
There are objects in the game, but set to invisible
i did a break from 1h, i destroyed one mineral palium and got a ruby
Thatās just a glitch in the matrix, from things you placed on your plot elsewhere.
How do you pronounce all of the villagers names?
especially chayne & eshe 
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anyone ever get this?
I agree with you. I've been sick these last two weeks, which means I'm home all day and have enough time playing Palia... And yet it's annoying for me to even keep the rummage piles in mind, so I don't forget to look for them.
Once I return back to work, I'm pretty sure I won't have enough time to look for them, as I usually just join the server, put vegetables into barrels, sell pickled jars from the previous day, take care of garden and then leave the server.
They definitely seem to be courting harder core gamers than what I would expect for the genre. Odd choice in my opinion but they have to know more than I do.
anyone wants to know how the palium farming is going 
looks like im lucky
Hey y'all, I've heard some people say foraging is a decent way to make money. How do people make gold using it? Is it flow wood or forage?
Ultimately though it is a game FOR profit and their competitions are vast. Its not like a secret that a new business needs money & new games need their playerbase to stick around. S6 is better than so many of these companies out right now, but they still do need people logging in or the thing will crash & fail . Personally when I run out into the world I get pulled into doing other things (except right now because Iām done everything & my accomplishments tab is broke)
Haha. I got like 50 pallium alone.
then my power went out
yeah this was mostly a joke i saw around 10 people run into pavel mines and followed out of curiosity then it was like a rat race getting to the next available palium node it was hilarious to watch
the last few days you can easily make 200-400 palium in an hour or so with all palium spawn points being farmed but today it has been taking ages to respawn, around 5 minutes for a node to respawn which is crazy slow š® maybe just bad servers or people tired of the gems already idk
yea it was spawning like crazy for me; probably won't anymore bc different server
thats when hideaway is usually clear lol
lol no, they just added it because telemetry showed not many people go to those map areas, and as a way of distributing quests. Nice essay tho
Happy timezone everyone! 
Happy timezooooone
happy timezZzone
Whatcha all up to on this fine(?) day
also holy heck when did discussions timer lower to 30 seconds
I was just looking at my second harvest house on my main plot and thought how nice it would be if we could someday color our entrance doors! Along with the roof. 
figuring out how tired ill be of mining by the time i have 2000 rubies
when people stopped talking, I think
2000 rubies! 
imat48orso
I mined a bunch for two days then was like nah I'm good for the time being
Holy 48! I think I have 14 only. 
tryingto get at least 1 round of something else in a day
It was some good kinda side "chill while alt tabbed" content though when I had that particular cave to myself though, grab the three nodes, back to the start, alt tab and do something else for a few min for respawn
My RNG has made Rubies, Sapphires, and Emeralds quite tough to drop. 
RNG, the true enemy
ive just mined for 8 hours a day for a week -.-;
Lordy
no joke theyll probably nerf rubies to about 1800 just when i think im good
I have a lot of Citrine, Quartz, and Garnets though. 
Where is this spot?
The drop, pavel mines
I haven't sold a single gem and don't plan to. I've gifted some so far, but I plan to hoard the rest. š
i have fully hit the inventory cap issue, and its clinging to me like honey
I hit my daily 10k storage limit every day. I shuffle some things around and temporarily have 20+ available space. And then it goes back to being full before I know it. 
yup
I look forward to when we potentially get a Silver, Gold, and Palium chest. 
i cant process my palium and stone fast enough (im using it to make fountains)
I'd be terrified to hoard at this point cause I don't trust there to not be nerfs for anything
i trust there will be nerfs, for everything. so i'm trying to break more things than they can fix
I suspect the nerfs may be for droprate, and not value, since they mentioned that the starstones were intended to help boost the mining bit. 
Of course, it could always be for both. š
when have they ever used a point hammer when they can drop an anvil on it? itll be rate and price
After what happened with cooking, I just assume fixes will be sledgehammers
Stratospheric anvil drops.

I just wonder what the other cooking changes are theyre brewing up. I hope its not needlessly making recipes even harder...
I just want them to revert the changes from before that were across the board that made solo cooking unprofitable/a money loss tbh ;;
There was seriously zero reason to go that far. I get that they wanted to nerf cakes a bit but they took out everything in the vicinity too
I dont mind if its a money loss if and i mean IF they give all recipes some sort of buff for other skills.
Otherwise i agree.
Nerfing money and focus was just...silly. Don't care if it was by 5 points or 500, still silly
I think nerfing focus is just making a bad system worse to begin with...
100%
Me eating an entire pattiserie worth of pies to boost my furniture making 10 levels...
did cooldown get lowered bc it's so dead
The irony of not needing to worry about focus for cooking due to cake parties
I havent been in here in 2 days, so they made the mistake of thinking its a safe choice
Error or not, macarons getting such a huge nerf made me sad because it only needed stirring, and I loathe the chopping minigame
Chopping is disorientimg for me cos of the sound desync. I can do it with the sound off though
It has been a month since I've checked the Discord. It was noticeably quiet then. The change checking in a month later is huge.
It's been dropping in users, which always intrigues me considering most of the people I know literally just forget to leave discords of stuff they're not playing anymore LOL
You leave a discord when youre upset with a game. Not when you just quit playing it.
Legit
Just built my fireplace add on š
Sweet
At this point im just trying to find a new palia related thing to write a feedbacky dissertation on. I need an outlet, and nothing is quite as relaxing as problem solving.
alternate answer to the "a lot of people leaving the discord," this is totally devil's advocate: maybe the mods did a purge of spam/old accounts?
Thatd be a too high percentage. Maybe part of it, but definitely not all of it
where you go fishing for the most exp ?
My private pond. I did nothing but fishing between the cake nerf and last tuesday.
mine
i dont know how you fish so much, its so much long and bored
I can fish on sound alone. Id mostly just be watching anime or chatting in discord.
The fact im on phone is showing š such typo, much ow
Fishing is probably the worst skill imo. Close call with bug catching, but at least that combines with other stuff decently...
why you fish without focus food ? its dont worth it ?
Up until last patch the highest value items were grilled fish, so i was trying to fill my storage with 400g+ grilled fish.
I dont care about exp, theres no incentive to get any. But sticking it to the man who came up with gold caps... that is worth it.
Do any of the skills matter after 10 other than 25 farming?
Nah, not noticably.
using focus for faster levels = more wasted renown because of renown cap = sadchapaa 
That too xD
fishing is the worst skill in the game. with bug catching i can at least catch pretty moths and butterflies
Im sad its "bug" catching. Id love some lizards and snakes.
Does anyone know where the chappa pile is today?
Hills by daiya farm. Dont have an image, sorry
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Thank you!
the chappa/rummage piles are another thing i hate. so rng focused and i havent gotten a single good thing from them yet at all
I keep forgetting they exist... yay object permanence issues
they arent rly worth seeking out imo unless ur hunting for the furniture recipes. they dont even drop flow or pallium stuff
I picked 2 up, 1 recipe 1 quest. Other than thay im just a total airhead unless i run into one by accident...
ive gotten sapwood and stone, and like, one carrot + only two other single things. i cant understand why some devs make these things such a game of unneccessary chance
I picked up four so far. 10 sapwood, 3 fur twice and 5 stone
Sapwood and stone sound like they should be jokes.
Here wait 24 RL hours and we'll give you 10 wood you can get by chopping two trees.
The fox thing was disappointing. I don't need rare stuff but the rewards I got before storing it were insulting.
1 tree... even
just found out about the library behind mirror ruins and ive been playing since day 1 š
Idve like the kitsuu to be something you can level by exchanging gifts, so youd get better stuff over time and the kitsuu would stick longer before running. Maybe letting you play with it at max or something.
you have garden capped at 2000 you need to spent those points! š®
Idk what on though! š¦
i want a kitsuu pet. i know theyre suppose to be a mythical animal but.... like? fox. i must pet the fox
just buy something from badruu, better than wasting points
No worries...I'm pretty sure they'll go away.
Idk... biying something thats a waste or just straight up wasting the points dont seem like a big difference to me xD
i need to save up for the well and garden shelf thing in the guild store.... so far away though x_x i rly want the well so i can fill my watering can so much easier with my boxed in garden setup
You're not interested in any of the special items from badruu? The well or the hydroponics stand? Or the cornucopia??? If not...ooof...I wish you could gift those to me!!!!
I'm working on the Koi Pond. I have the well and it's worth it
If the well is functional ill prolly get that tomorrow. All the other stuff has just been a disappointment and the wallpapers make me kinda nauseous, especially the cooking and gardening ones
The well is functional
Don't trust the flavor text. They all make the items seem functional.
But the well IS functional!!!
OK?
Tish furniture trunk is kinda cool too
Thats why i gave up. The aquarium wasnt either... despite getting my hopes up of not seeing a creature crammed in an inhumanely tiny space.
There are no fish in the aquarium?
I suspect they'll update the aquarium...heard they did with the star quality aquariums...the fish in those tanks didn't move in the past.
There arent. But the fish you catch also cant be put in it so they dont have to like in a 2ftx2ft enclosure...
Why, 'OK?"
?
Why respond to my statement with that reply?
Oooh, really? Thats cool. What about that is disappointing to you?~~~~
NM...misread what you wrote
Well that's disapointing. At least they could have filled it with some fish
I want a butterfly dome, so i dont have to feel bad about my pretty butterflies in a cage so tiny theyll hurt themselves.
That would be sweet
I refuse to display animals in an improperly sized cage (bar the fairy mantis in my luggage pile, but it is a proper travel bin size)
yeah. theyre more like, trophy/display cases.... but idk about the fact that theyre still living amd moving. i wanna put them in a terrariam or let them freeroam my garden. i want them to run around and be goofy
At the least, add some oxygenation
Id love being able to freeroam starred bugs, or fish in the 2 plot ponds
They are oxygenated...take a close look at the tanks, you can see the bubbles and the little oxygenation pipe.
all i see are rocks and grass...
those white dots are O2 bubbles, and there's a little pipe in the corner, to the right, above the grass
Did anyone come across todays chaapa pile?
Daiya farm, hill to the right
||it's at the top of a hill next to the leafhopper farm||
thank u so much ^^
Be sure and sell the fur you get haha
Hopefully you'll get a quest, if you havnt already
yesterday i got a quest so fingers crossed XD
i cannot see well but ill check ingame when im next on
one but ive heard there are 4
If you hang a light directly above the chest you can see the fish a lot better. I use the log cabin wall light. It makes all the chest under them light up.
Anyway. Bedtime for me, have fun everyone!
Night Chista
nighty night!
i need two prep stations to make fish tacos?
If it starts at a prep station you need another station to prep ingredients and then āaddā the ingredients at the first prep station
yeah. need 2 of every station for the harder recipes. i dont think u need 2 ovens but i have 3 incase i ever make cakes solo
ty guys
Has anyone given eshe a ruby yet? Just to see her dialogue
Not worth 8000g in my book.
Word. Iād give Ashura or Eloisa the ruby before Iād give it to esheā¦unless my pockets are just overflowing with goldā¦so, at the rate Iām playing, thatāll be years from now.
I knowā¦Ashura and Eloisa may not take the ruby.
She can get a jasper from me.
I aināt giving rubies to anyone not named shipping bin. š¤£š
Eshe's dialogue - a sacrifice so you don't have to
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eshe wanting to set it into jewlery just to make the duchess mad is a mood lol
For some reason I saw a sernuk stuck in a boulder the other day lol I'll have to post a pic of it I couldn't help but giggle
I see they are advertising being able to put star quality dishes out on display at a table or something. I personally avoid cooking more than any other skill due to the fact that complex dishes ruin so many ingredients if you dont complete it in a fast time. I think its the worst part of Palia by far but that is just me I think
You have to be a special type of person I think to enjoy Palia cooking and not get bugged by ruined recipes and ingredients
yeah. i just stick to the stir frys
i stick to pickled items LOL skip cookin all together!
pickling things take so long to me rip
how do the caps on gifting work? is it on a timer that counts down from the last time you gave them a gift, is there a weekly cap on gifts u can give to a villager, or..?
once per irl day, resets at 4am utc/8pm pt
tyvm!
I don't think it's so much that, as much as it is that many people just don't have issues completing the recipes without ruining them in the first place OR cook with other people if they do... I never knew you could ruin a recipe until I got a UE error and my game crashed in the middle of cooking, and I logged back in to the ruined one. and that was after cooking hundreds of times solo. I don't do it anymore because they nerfed solo cooking because of the stupid cake parties but I used to just turn whatever ingredients I had into cooked food for extra profit.
anyone know what this furniture is?
doesnt help that it's pretty inaceesible and overwhelmingv in groups
All right has anyone actually SEEN a Midnight Paddlefish?
this is how i felt ab the unicorn fish, it took me 5 irl hours
I asked for the one facing the opposite direction btw!! im trying to do the same kitchen vibe but I cannot understand what decoration that is š
For the second day in a row now, these chapaas really dont want me to make a blankie basket 
its from zeki balls, ceramic bucket i think its called
its my 3rd day of sapwood too ā¤ļø
Wheres today's burrow?
I finally finished setting up the wintergarden in my house. Time to decorate āØ
A tiny forest in the middle of my house :3
From the other end 
They need to fix the numbers I thought I only had 3 Briar Daisy and wonder where they all went. In reality I have 53 but you can't see it.
you find it yet?
I got the record player
Second day in a row of something good
Probably means it'll all be crap for weeks now, but hey
yes 14 of them in my storage. Fish then from Midnight to 3AM in Crystal Lake. š
Will Palia ever support MacOS
No mentions of our game being released on Mac.
I seriously thought the numbers being big to the point where they were being hidden by the icons was a bug
but like, there's been no response about it so it was...intended? someone looked at that and said "yeah ok let's ship it"? idk i'm just confused
which one?
- The white one at the lft side is from the Ranch House set (maybe the Ranch Hose Floor Cabinet),
- the brown one in the middle is the back from the Homestead set (Homestead Floor Cabinet)...
- In the front its one of the Treasure Chests.
- The flower is from the Bellflower set... - and the rug is from the Industrial Set - oh... and the stool is LogCabin š
- the Basket is from the new set found in the rumage piles
well here is a psa you can get the rummage pile quest items more than once *they don't trigger the quest a second time so you're left with more old quest junk
actually so dissapointing, gimmie the cute furniture recipes
For me the item numbers are inconsistent, it's almost like the font size is on a random();
So how do you pronounce Palia? Pal-ee-uh? Puh-lee-uh? Pal-ya? Lmao I have no idea
pay-lee-ah
Ah, so close! Ty!
It“s PAL-YAH 
Pleh
But yes, this is the "official" pronunciation 
Pah-lee-ah for me.
i really love all the updates palia does... but we REALLY need more plants + new funiture craftable styles and outdoor decorations!
also to see our item limit! so we know how to plan out our stuff and decoration
Yes we need flowers we can plant to decorate š
yes!! and more "plant" items!
now for some reason im wondering if this game is getting flower breeding... i dont even want it...
or flower bushes, such as roses
or even shrubs, like the ones we chopped off when we first got our plots
Bodruu could sell flower seeds
hello, since cake parties got nerfed a while ago, my money is spent now and i could use some more. do you guys know how to get my hands on some cash real smooth?
mining is the smoothest atm
this.
is there a certain technique?
personally, i find one of the palium locations that doesnt have 10 people in it and just circle mine there
and making crab pot pies not as good as cake parties but u only need 5 people so thats more doable
and then you sell palium bars?
gems. Im personally using the bars to level furniture. but you could get a lot more selling pal bars, yeah
ah those are new, i saw them in the patch notes but forgot about them. nice nice thanks for the tips^^
i need the bars too, because i wanna make one of every furniture item... need a lot of flow wood too, but thats fine
I wonder if they are planning to let us have a ranch and raise animals in the future š these are beautiful creatures
No current public plans, but it does come up a lot
that would be awesome
makes the private home more lively at least with creatures roaming around
There were hints that it is something that they want, but we don't know if/when it will happen
thanks, you found better words than I could.
Paela š
cry I got the fancy quill pen the second time and now it is just an useless item in my inventory, because I already did the quest. And it did not restart it. I just have the item... and can do nothing with it.
yup Quest items can drop multiple times, rly sucks, hope they fix it soon
same situation but with star chart, i even fished a 3rd but i tried lose it before i fished it out lol. I reported it already hope they will fix it
Yeah, that should not be possible. That is a little tiny bit frustrating.
on the bright side though quest items do not take storage space so you can just drop it and forget about it without it taking space
Yeah, that is a good thing. I can't get rid of it, but it does not steal my storage space.
- I would love more gardening space. 2. I would love it where if we make something that we can sell it for coin instead of having to trash it or have it fill up spots in our inventory or put in an extra tent on our plot. 3. I put out my extra Harvest House on my plot. How many extra ones can we set out or is it just one extra before i invest and buy another one to put my extra furniture in it ? 4. I love the wall paper, except when it bleeds into another area of the walls outside and then looks odd. 5. Some hills let you climb then you get stuck instead of allowing you to get all the way to the top. This is frustrating when you are trying to reach the level up that might have a flowtree on it. 6. The white stags are still getting caught in rocks, and no way to kill them. That's my thoughts for this morning. Love the game though š Just mostly wish for more gardening plots because the apple, blueberries, and hot peppers take up 4 squares. Would also love to add to it, pumpkins for pumpkin pie for Thanksgiving š
The extra star charts that are like fish, should be made where if you get extra you can sell them to the fish guy
I also have an extra shopping list that I don't know what to do with. laughs and someone said something about a MASK quest when you garden, but I've not seen that yet, and still trying to figure out how to get all the recipes. Boulienese one has me stumped
Starred ruined food cannot be placed for decor, sadge
Anyone know the location of today's rummage pile?
Mirror pond, closeish to the bridge if I recall
on a slight grassy mound, SE of the tag mirror fields for me
to ur list:
They have no plans atm for additional soils in the near future, but they will when needed (they have tons of new crops planned and the art assests exist, we will probably get more soils if they think its a good idea + they need to nerf crops then)
U can have up to 15 harvest houses on ur plot
The Climbing stuck just takes time to manually fix all of that, if u get stuck press X
Magic sernuks getting stuck will be fixed in one of the next few patches
For the mask quest, It took me around 300 tilled tiles for it to drop, its just rng
for the duplicate quest items we can only hope for them to fix it, but most times they can be totally ignored, quest items don't take up storage space
I've seen it mentioned a few times before, but was wondering if there are current plans or rumors to having the beds be functional in any way? I'd love to use my furniture instead of having it for decoration only š
think they will do the same as for the sitting with just adding a laying down emote
today's chapaa mound
Thank you ^^
oh they aren't going to have real sitting interactions with furniture?
I wish we had walkways we could put down outside on our plot
they said they will add the functionality in their first devblog, same as laying down, but weren't able to do so yet bcs of technical hurdles, which makes sense, we can place chairs under tables, place something on them, would end in extremely weird clipping
we probably will get these someday, but for me emotes do just the same
Wow @lyric night Iām impressed you have all this information thankyou for sharing
well we all have that info, I had to look it up myself real quick 
Interesting because DDLV has sitting animations and it looks like they are using the same software as Palia is
Whatās DDLV
Disney dreamlight valley
Ohhh yeah I remember that game
Interesting experience but its scale felt a little off to me
like I said, they will add the functionality, they said that back in august together with the other interacting features whoch were already added by now
- when they added the sitting emote they also added a note that the emote will not be the final form of how sitting works in palia
My personal wishlist includes changing the landscape to reflect the season so even the leaves are changed/absent and snow May blanket the earth
I bet that would be so hard to do but itād be so cool you know
Like the Harry Potter games did that but now that I think about it how did they actually do that
(we will probably get snow in kilima in the next few patches)
or at least winter changes, but that screams snow and lights and decor
I responded to that survey they did a while back and I reflected that the game doesnāt really encourage multiplayer much and I bet lots of others feel the same so Iām most excited to see what the team comes up with
Like mini games or something
My personal recommendation was chat bubbles. I think those are important
i dont think youre supposed to share whats in the surveys, but i havent had any yet, so im glad for the sneak peak :p
yeah they said that they would work on more multiplayer features, the one I look forward to, is community activities 
i sent in a massive feedback file with a bunch of multiplayer suggestions, right now I just want to see... anything.
thats not really sharing directly something from the survey, the devs openly shared that they are unhappy with the multiplayer and are working on new ways to do so + making shared plots a thing someday
I think chat bubbles (and maybe chat emotions) are more immersive for communication especially with people in your vicinity rather than text boxes
It was something about WoW I really liked that I found lacking in games that didnāt feature it
somehow the only activity i ever catch from the CMs is in the middle of the night. I need a dev tracker
well thats their working hours xD u are probably located in europe? + CMs are no devs
CMs are S6 employees at least, I havent seen someone actually involved in the code or art talk unless it's the official letters, and that's more... here's some info you can't ask for clarification on...
Also, yes EU
Have the devs said anything about fixing the social panel in game? I haven't found anything and to be quite frank, it's really annoying that I have about a dozen friend requests that won't go away.
They're starting to rack up on my end too. But nothing I've seen.
Booooooooo
Tiny might've seen something, they seem well informed. If they're still here
its peter or captain hook ?
1- peter
2-Captain
Hook, to me, if it were dyed red.
nothing about that looks like peter pan 
its green
i cant see the color at all tbh. even then it looks way more captain/pirate then peter pan. peter has a tunic, not a captains coat
for me it look like peter pan
I dont see it.
bc is flying š¤£
with a glider?
imagine ask a ia a old peter pan lmao
Maybe we grew up with different peters? I'm pretty sure he's always wearing something similar to that...
But yeah I see something more akin to hook. Even if not exaclty hook
i grew up with american/british peter pan. its prob very different in france?
I'm dutch, so I couldnt tell at all what they're like in france
Are iron arrows bugged? I don't feel them stronger than copper arrows, it took like 3 or 4 shots to down an elder sernuk and 2 arrows for elder chapaas, not blue ones, the middle tier
They dont seem stronger to me either, so i ended up using slowdown arrows rather than iron.
Every time I hear or read Kenli I think of Kenlee https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUAaHkGpJy8&ab_channel=IdolsGlobal
Anyone with a controller willing to see if it works on Palia now? I got a surprise last night when my wired XBOX controller just worked.
No luck with the controller... I have a ps4 controller wired to my computer.
Awesome!!!!!
I'm so proud of you!!!

Xbox controllers are somewhat more compatible with other devices due to the nature of how the Xbox functions.
So you may find people with PlayStation controllers have a different experience.
Thanks for trying
i feel like controller support will drop when they finally release palia on switch
Thanks. I just know folks with accessibility needs have asked for it, and if it got stealth added I'd want them to know xD
I'm glad you're keeping an eye on it!

I mean if they don't have it by then... oh boy 
I have played Palia since the beta release, and now for the first time I encountered rude players that verbally attacked me for something I didn't do (that I took palium nodes in front of them, but it was stone nodes that I collected), so now I'm scared to collect stones near palium node areas.
Is this a common situation? I got shocked of the sudden messages so I quit the game and rejoined again to get to a different server. 
Its not common but it does happen alot since starstones were dropped. People get upset if you take full nodes. Now when i go mining have to hit EVERY node once or someone gets upset
Some people are just a-holes, sadly
It isn't too common, but it does happen sometimes. The best thing you can do is block and report them at the moment
And also remember that you didn't do anything wrong. They are trying to force you to play in a way that they want, which is something that noone has any rights to do
As long as everyone gets to hit the node youll never really run into problems. I mine alot now adays and 100% i have had 5 people show up for 1 node and it was stone once. Everyone just wants shinys and money
Yup. If i see someone running at the node i'm mining, i'll wait for them. If i see someone already standing there, i hit the node and continue my route. If they are still there by the time i go around, i mine the node
The reason they increased the Palium rate was specifically for the reason to allow you to solo play if that is your style
Yes but thats not how people have been acting. I legit cannot mine solo anymore i ALWAYS have someone huffing it on foot to get to the node too. Its super sad cause now i ahve to fight over stone LOL
i wanted to make 5, i did 50 by accident, all my palium is gone...
Is reshade usable in Palia?
Man, if the toxicity has increased over just this in Bahari Bay, I can't even imagine what it'll be like when flow groves drop
Yeah, it is a probably good I'm not playing. I'd get banned for sure if someone tried to tell me how to play the game.
The drama that's gonna happen when people don't wait "long enough" for others to gather to chop down the grove is going to be.....a sight to see
I'd say we still need to sit on this change a bit. Once the people who feel like their life depends on a single palium node finish their grinds, it will be much better
It's similar to what happened to the "this game sucks but i can't explain why" folks. I don't see much of that anymore, most of them have moved on
I'm not sure S6 is fully aware of the massive friction between solo/group players when it comes to competitive nodes, or they're just hoping it'll somehow sort itself out
I'm not sure either. But i also feel like they are hoping it will work out
It'll sort itself out by getting whoever cares less about the game getting banned by losing it.
My personal experience has been different, but everyone is different. My experience is that people camping the nodes are actually having fun chatting. It's like when people actually talk in a doctor's office xD
No idea how long it'll take to work itself out though. I thought that by now it would have died down at least a little but instead I'm hearing more and more stories about friction and fighting
it will keep building and building til it hits a breaking point, or never stops at all. ive seen it happen before and it is not pretty to see in real time
And considering how one needs about fifty morbillion flow planks to make furniture, even more than palium from what I remember, it might be even worse. Especially because flow groves are only once an in-game day from what they mentioned iirc? so add in that "once an hour" thing instead of palium nodes respawning every like two min, and people are gonna go nuts
It's been a week since the change. Enough for the majority of those to settle, but not long enough for the general playerbase to recognize that they could/should approach it differently
i already have trouble trying to solo farm flow wood. once i get the big foraging things, im just using my medallions on flow wood in the guild shop tbh. its just not worth the hassle for me
imo there will always be those willing to wait and share, those who will hog resources, and those that will feel entitled to resources - no matter how long some1 waits, if they dont get a hit on the node they will feel slighted. there;s also a fair amount of people who won't understand how sharing resources works in this game. it's unlike anything i've encountered in an MMO. i think it's a player culture thing that will work itself out tbh but there will likely always be a bit of friction
I don't let mining stone nodes in spots Palium pops bother me, if they get upset it's there problem I do always look around first before mining just in case someone is behind me IGN Shilotastic
Hopefull the flow tree groves will help with that. Not sure when those will come, but i would expect to hear about them soon i think
yeah. im staying away from them on the day they drop tho. too many ppl
In theory flow tree groves will help but seeing how players are acting with the palium, I have zero confidence that it's gonna go down the way S6 thinks they will until the playerbase or interest drops
Maybe. I guess it depends on the specifics of how they want to implement it. Flow trees require playing with others, which means it could absolutely emphasize the problem if it goes wrong
like idk. I've played many other MMOs and out of all of them, the Palia community seems the most stuck in their ways, this sort of fighting about solo vs group farming has happened since day 1, it's just had a spike recently. But I've always seen people fighting in Bahari Bay over this, for months
So I don't really have hope things are gonna "settle down"
lord knows I wish it would but I don't really have the confidence after everything I've seen since open beta started
tbh the community feels like its most of those cozy gamers that keep a very cute and positive outlook, but are just mean irl
Over time you either grow to accept that you don't own every palium node or you live long enough to become the villain 
Careful. Have to be nice here or hammertime.
I've seen so much Mean Girl-esque behavior on this discord I'm just like..... okay lol
People keep asking for more MMO activities but they can't even play nice with Palium. LOL
homie u been on this discord for days telling people how u dont play anymore and telling people to watch out for voicing criticisms cos it's gonna get them banned or something lol. did u get banned
It's interesting. MMO players usually know what they are getting into, so these types of little competitions are expected
But those who come from the "cozy game community" may not have experienced these things. Most of those games are single player or small co-op, which is a totally different vibe
(not saying this is true for everyone in those groups, just a general observation)
So there is already a clash there. I've been thinking about this for a bit, but this is all i have at the moment
ive been in a few communities that are cozy, despite the game itself not being "cozy" or anything. i have a nice time in them. i.... have yet to have a extremely positive experience here
Not your homie. I've been on the Discord answering questions and checking for any info about the update. I haven't seen anyone get banned for voicing criticisms. Voice quite a few myself.
Constructive criticism is always welcome. It is the thing that hopefully steers the game in the right direction
on another note, how do i save and buy a ton of zeki coins cause i wanna go nuts at the lucky box machine. i want the furniture n plushies lol
People can get a bit of tunnel vision.
This game is intended to foster solo play as much as it does social play.
Some folks forget that.
But I do think that if you want to gather resources alone, it's important to be mindful of people who aren't.
Just as they should be respecting you.
No one should be yelling at people for wanting to play alone.
No one should be sniping nodes from people who are obviously gathering to share.
A little situational awareness and mutual respect goes a long way.
There's room for all of us.
I'd just save them every day. Buying them for 10k doesn't get you better stuff.
Gardening combined with mining is the best at the moment. Mining for the new star stones, gardening for jams/pickles, and use the rest of your crafting slots for worm farms. You can buy mushrooms from Zeki for 16g, which should return about 30g worth of glow worms + fertilizer
I saved up my daily Zeki coins for like a month and bought some extra and then binge-opened 40 gachas and it made me happy
Did it make me get all the goods? No but I did get several furn items I didn't have and an ormuu plush
Nice! I think i got like 4-5 furniture pieces total, but i haven't opened like a lot of coins
Ooh, is that how I can get something other than useless fireworks?
Open a bunch at once?
That would be nice but no.
Oh :(
It's a totally random roll every time. But if you get an item that you want, it's easier to ignore all the trash you have opened at the same time haha
100% this. I got SO MANY WORMs when I did it and my friends who watched were giving me a hard time but they stopped laughing when I got the ormuu plush 
I remember people saying you only get gems from ore stones and rock but not clay, so just found out thats wrong haha
No its all nodes
uh... okay well i tried to give you the gem info one sec
Clay drops Quartz and citrine but with a lower chance for citrine than stone
Looks like its finally time for me to become a Shepp
Gl!
I dont run a server so it looks like theyre not looking for me
Yes definitely! So exciting to get new shepps! 
It's just another aspect of the shepp program, please apply anyway!
look @outer atlas you can finally make your shepp role not invisible
(also reminder of when Turtle gave you a shepp roll #š¬āpalia-discussions message)
^
No no you can apply! They're expanding applications to include server owners, but it's not only for server owners :)
Ah. Must be misreading sonce its almost midnight ^.^;
Def apply regardless of running a server or not š
i saw the news and came straight here to see if Aylee was going to sign up for it x3
Aylee was the first thing I thought of when I saw it
haha

Good luck to everyone applying! I think it's safe to say there will be a loooooot of applications haha!
GBW is really a glutton for punishment .. and during thankgiving week as well
Good Luck going through what is likely to be an even bigger list than before 
Lol right?!
Xrystal! Are you applying this time, or are you still just vibing?
The food will give her strength though! Stuffing in one hand, applications in the other hehe
I don't need no majiri symbol after my name to do my stuff - not that I do that much anymore - semi retirement and all 
hey GBW
hiyas
Listen, I'm just really excited and misty-eyed to see this program grow.
Yeah, i got you
I was just curious haha!
"meme dynamos" aight friendos sending in my application now wish me luck-- 
I would but the game turned me into a villain š
I very much enjoyed helping those that needed it but early retirement for meš
IT EXISTS
Welp, applied. I pity the person who needs to look at all these...
It is going to be GW, she handles all the applications. Getting through all of them might take some time haha!
what do you gain from being a shepp?
Im not holding out hopes, besides its not like i plan to stop anything im doing now if i dont get it :p need to keep myself busy.
It's me, hi, I'm the problem it's me person going through the applications, it's me.
- I love memes please send me memes
- Shepps align closely with the CM team as mentors, guides, trusted experts, etc. The alignment often takes different forms and the program is flexible to accommodate many levels of involvement and different spheres of interest.
- There's more info here: https://palia.com/shepp-program
Good Luck everyone who signs upš¤
This is the second time we've run applications this year, and we always welcome people to reapply if they weren't accepted initially. We're growing the program slowly.
Also, we have a number of people who are interested in being a huge part of this community, but don't want a Shepp badge, and that's okay too!
The elusive Rainbow Tipped Butterfly .. I have seen it only once in my Palian Lifetime .. I just need to see it one more time .. as a starred version and I'll be happy to let it be 
I think the first one i saw was starred, but it got away.
you start with a jar at like 2 am at hideaway/pulsewater, try to empty out grasshoppers as much as you can and hope for spawns at 3 am - thats how i got 4 star rainbow tipped butterflies already
uh wait so whats the shepp thing? is it like a position to just slap a shiny badge on and say hey i can help etc? LOL people do that already
read the blog - very informative .. I'm not mentioned in it at all .. 
You'll always be The Wikibot. 
beep boop
We do ⨠other things ⨠as well, buuuut a lot of it is under NDA. It's kind of hard to explain without going into specifics, but i can't really go into specifics 
What happens in Sheppland .. stays in Sheppland 
i need clarification: Dari cloves, is it better to pick then call or call then pick. On some servers people say don't pick but on the server I am on i called one and said i don't want it but would flare it and was told to pick it or it would despawn. Which is correct?
ah lol right yeah thats not for me lol im in this discord alot tho so i see alloooot of things
There are quite a few here that I hope don't get accepted. The closer to S6, it seems the less community interaction there is. Could lose a lot of helpful people.
Xrystal, are you applying? š
not at this time no .. maybe in the future .. busy working on my PNN stuff .. maybe when that's ready I'll think about it 
is it possible to change slogan and description of you guild after you created it? or is it permanent? :S
It's more like there is just not many of us, and everyone likes to contribute in different ways
Some are making guides, some are helping with the wiki, and some are just memeing around in general. But with the team being around ~50 people in a server with 300k members, we aren't that visible
I wonder if I can apply and keep doing what I'm doing š¤
if u have bad luck it will despawn right infront of ur eyes bcs it could've been picked up by someone who didn't call it out in server chat, thats why probably, for u to get it its the best to just pick it up, the timer for despawning is 5 minutes on them, everyone on the server will be able to get to that pos in 5 mins
As an introvert, I also built the program to be welcoming to introverts, so it wouldn't just end up being a popularity contest. There are a bunch of Shepps that do amazing work on guides and tools, but would prefer to lurk more in public discord channels, and that's perfectly fine.
I don't see why you wouldn't be able to 
It depends on what hes doing, and if its data mining or something similarly grey, what S6s stance on that is.
Id still try if you want to though!
I don't really want to open this topic up at the moment (mainly because i'm going to bed so y'know
), but they haven't taken a strong stance on this just yet. Might be a good idea to bring up the topic from different points of view
Very good point actually
Our stance on datamining is noted in our Terms of Service.
So, it's not gray, but black?
Reads like pitch black to me
darn it Midnight Paddlefish .. why do you keep avoiding my fishing rod 
Fish ish ninja
Anyway, ill probably make like mavebrick and hug a bed till the sun yells at me to stop.
Cant read black on white anymore soo white on black will probably follow soon.
Have fun everyone!
it sure is purdy š
I'm not jealous .. nope not at all 
tbh I kinda found it by accident too
i spent weeks searching for it using countless lures & buzz jars
then I gave up and was just running to check a cave for pal and it was right there š
Are there new recipes?
do you mean food or furniture? there are some new cozy furniture recipes in the rummage piles you get daily 
Ohhh, I saw ānew recipesā & thought food but I guess its the crafting recipes
hopefully with some new crops soon we will also get new food recipes, iām ready for new focus food š
i wonder who's gna apply for shepp
Honestly if they add new crops then they need to add more soil. Ive cut out blueberries cause they are useless and live off of potatoes and apple jam
yeah honestly i agree, especially now with mining being buffed i feel a couple more soil plots would align nicely with giving gardening a little buff
but then also we need more crafting licenses for more crafters and suddenly there is a lot involved
iām sure they are working out specifics but i really would love more freedom within gardening for those that love it, mining or hunting isnāt limited so why should gardening be
i absolutely agree especially sincei t isn't really passive, u have to be logged in.
I mean it kinda depends on what you like doing over otherskills
Im at max crafting stations and I have plenty to accommodate more soil/crops
but I dont do as much hunting or bug catching so I dont need a lot of looms and my 5 smelters do just fine for my mining
I could see how others would want more though
i just bought 4 more crafters LOL cause im leaning away from gardening profit and switching to just mining and smelting my 600 ore that collecting T.T . I mean i use my garden but like its just not rackin in the profit like mining does in about 4 hours
It did despawn in front of my eyes, because I didnāt know about the pick first call after 5 minute timer. But then later I found a heart drop, so I picked it called it flared it and 4 people were able to get it then I watched and yes about 5 minutes later it despawned, so now I know. Ty for responding. š
@ocean sundial are there any discord activity requirements for a shepp application ? I've been in Japan for a month now so I haven't been very active lately but am still interested
I'm not GBW and not an s6er but based on the frequency that I see shepps pop in and out I don't think so
I hope not, othweise sad timing for my with this happening with I was in Japan lol
Yeah! Man I wish I could say I'd been in Japan for the past month 
Looking at the posting history of some of the shepps, I don't think there is a requirement.
Yeah I think Imetrius can rest assured
anyone know how many people are working on palia?
Definitely apply :) (my mindset with applications is "well, I definitely won't get picked if I don't apply" hehe so it's worth taking a chance imo)
S6 had a little under 300 employees on linkedin last we checked (not necessarily all devs of course) but there may or may not have been layoffs so who knows at this point 
whoa
what are those team pics on their website? looks like around 20 people
The other 280 work on the premium outfits
The prem outfits were outsourced from another group.
group of founders? random team pic? idk it's anyone's guess
having quests that rely on time of day is a horrible game design, it's very frustrating.
When a day is 1 hour long and consistent, I'm not sure what the frustration would be.
when you're doing 20 things and forget to be somewhere on time, you get annoyed over and over. Or waiting somewhere to do the quest for even a minute is just bad game design. Should be always fun, not literally wasting your time, just to waste it. Even with crops, yeah you consume time, but imagine having to pick it the next day or else it gets destroyed. Notice how that wouldn't be fun, so why do this with a quest?
And sometimes that happens but having the day be like a half an hour shouldnt be an issue. I have a list that i use every time i leave my house plot. If i have a quest that is time gated then its top priority. Need to do the garden? itll be there when you get back.
Hello! Is the map app that shows real-time resources spawn legal to use or is it a cheat?
what you mean legal to use?
Using the map thats fan made is fine. Its not a cheat. S6 would of nipped it in the butt early on if they had an issue with it.
If they show real-time resources, it's against our ToS. There are some interactive maps that doesn't have this function.
I haven't even seen one that could do it in real time, that sounds wild
I don't know how it could, considering each server has its own spawns
okay my message got bonked and I have NO idea why lol
Automod has no chill 
I didn't even do any of the usual bonking things like saying roostertail or using too many letters in a row!
please avoid using curse words 
A map that functions in real time would require a third party program that is attached to the game itself, which is against TOS for a lot of games. Dulla has already advised of S6's stance on that.
There is only one "display case" in my house and I don't remember when I got (or made) it.
It's got, let's just say ||a manuscript|| inside.
What did y'all use your cases for?
Did I other than an acronym for I don't bleeping know...? I didn't even know that was bonkable. okay, PG related language it is ig as long as that same moderation happens for when general gets too spicy 
It's the "s" word that got bonked! 
Anyway what I was trying to say was that it might be possible based on videos of cheat programs I saw but I dunno how that stuff works
either or, someone mentioned some kind of fan made map? is that like, an overlay?
or just something you open up in a browser

Sapwood again from the rummage pile...I just wanna make a blankie basket 
well I'm even more confused now
someone didn't get NDAed for mentioning said fan made map earlier and I'm confused on how a fan made map falls under NDA but maybe I'm just really tired rn
imma go back to watching videos of a cute dog
I placed a cake inside for the memories of cake party days š
ooh that's a good one. I didn't realize cake parties were over.
Heard about them but never participated in one (the pressure)
Oh they are not technically over, but after the rework I stopped doing them to also save my own gameplay, they really allow you to advance fast and some people need that if they canāt play often but personally it was getting me too far ahead and i wanted to continue enjoying the game for a long time 
Understand.
I'm bumping against the cap from regular farming, so I can't imagine what cake partiers must be up against.
I think for me I spent almost 5 million on zeki balls, itās the only thing to really sink your money in at the moment except for housing things and iām already pretty maxed out there 
But with gardening and mining lately you can make so much money, Iād only consider a cake party if i needed glow worms and couldnāt make them fast enough
Yeah I'll have to start buying Zeki balls soon once my limited remaining options run out.
I'm Marcellus in game too if you want to add.
I'm nowhere NEAR max on house...but Marcellus is a simple man. 2 bed 2 bath works.
are you sure that's real time resources? that would be impossible seeing how servers are matchmade at 25 players a pop and each server has its own timers, which would require somebody to have bots on every server and thus not efficient or functional for a game like this
it's probably just an aggregated map showing all the possible locations
if i had to assume itās probably taking the data from the server that you are currently on which many games would determine as cheating, hence why itās not allowed
i think most times people ask if something is legal to use it likely isnāt 
you mean you have to install it and be the data bot yourself? that's kinda screwed up and does count as a third party cheating tool lol
otherwise idk how it would work
honestly i have no idea on specifics since i haven't tried it myself, but i've heard about it in other games where there is an overlay showing real time locations and i assume that's what the person is talking about, definitely cheating and sucks the fun out of the game 
I have not found one quest in the game that was time sensitive - even if they give you a time, it doesn't matter if you go there the next day or in a week or a month.
So what I did was just ignore some quests in the beginning to not be overwhelmed or stressed with times (you can unpick quests from the list you want to pursue later) - if I went there when the time was right per chance, I did it, fine.
It also has the advantage of still having some quests to do while many others have rushed all of them already.
sry for the late answer.
rummage pile is east of mirror fields fast travel point, by a tree next to the river
anyone else looking forward to the game being on switch and wish they would just release it already.... lol
nono, needs more time + content imo š
I really do hope it stays FTP though
stays f2p? they're already monetizing the game, if they decided to switch to p2p or buy to play it would be the end of it
yeah it'll remain F2P + premium store, that's their setup
Oooh! I had it! A Brighteye Butterfly, I could see the swirling stars, but it had landed inside the tree and this was as close as I was allowed to walk to the tree, just outside of pickup range. š¦
Oh NooooO! I'm faaaaalling!!!
424 happening a lot atm
yep same here
stuick in kilima, neither housing nor Bahari works xD I sent modmail
seems like there is tech problems. tells me that i cant enter the game cause my launcher isnt up to date ^^
Same here, Moosey
weird. everyone in game seems to be getting 424. I dont know how a queing system and a version checker are related....
they dont do live patching so it cant be zoning between areas checks game versions =S
Somebody tried running that Launcher again like the message said ? I didn't dare yet.
I think the error message is misleading, but I have the same error
I tried running launcher again but didnt work 
Oh, darn, and Eshe asked (demanded) me to come and clean up the mess Tau left behind in their house. She will be mad. š
the only thing i can think of it its the connection protocol. It cant put people in game in que cos that system isnt working and for people logging in it throws its the version because it cant connect to the connection protocal, maybe. I really dont -know-
I assume the devs are in the US and they are about to start their working day. Hopefully this will be solved soon.
sounds about right, version checking can occur during first server handshake
Wouldn't that version checking not running on the same server ?
today's chapaa mound
depends on how they set it up, with a game iwth a launcher you would check it twice, in launcher and then on login, usually that's also how you could check whether any file was modified through hash
just so happens im stuck in kilima, so thanks for the reminder 
When a thing like this occurres, what doe we need to do then ? Contact the devs via their official website ?
no, there are tools that notify you when a live process goes down, at that point it depends on how they set up their infrastructure, if they have to drive to the office or if they can fix it from home
having the same issue
same
Ah, just popped in here to see if anyone else's client was broken.
same here
it's happening to a large portion of people, everyone in #š¬āpalia-general is talking about it
me too
"client outdated"
logging in right now gives you the outdated client message and many people in game are unable to change zones right now.
let's go
Eshe will be happy. lol
after a little more than 30min i could finally log in š
woohoo!
I'm just here to say I appreciate your pfp 
not sure where to ask this so imma do it here: I have discovered something in the game that triggers my emetophobia very bad: Zeki having a hairball. Is there any way I could address this to S6? It sounds so nitpicky and I feel even stupid to ask this tbh
!feedback
Looking for where to share your game feedback & suggestions for Palia?
- To share feedback directly with the team: https://palia.info/feedback
- To discuss feedback with other players: #š¦āissues-discussions
- To read the latest Dev Updates: https://palia.com/news
- For bug reports, contact: https://support.palia.com
thanks! i got lost in the server haha
Yup, the feedback form is your best bet. The CMs read through those and forward them to the devs for evaulation
I hope that helps! 
To be fair, this is a disorientingly large server
When do you guys think we'll get a new area in name? Only having two main areas for gameplay has started getting a little... dry
No idea when, but there are rumours of one... soon⢠š
we'll have to wait for other stuff prior though really, 2 temples, switch launch, groves, etc
Bugs first.....
switch release is my guess
nah, "fix" bugs that will come back in the following patch AND new bugs along with other stuff š
I can't wait for the new zones. What do you imagine s6 has in store for us
i sort of expect them to drop a new area first before a new temple because i've already gathered the star edition of every item in the game for this specific purpose thus far
I want a snowy land
||mushrooms||
nah will be temples first, as the last 2 are in bahari and it ends jina's main arch for all 4 type temples
New to the game. What is a cooking party?
people make a lot of a specific recipe to make a lot of money, usually people only bring a certain ingrediant for a stage of the recipe
people can cook together so people use it to get a lot of gold quickly
Ok, so how does that work if i wanted to host?
I believe you need your cooking skill leveled up to at least 4 because you need a lot of equipment to host and some of that you don't have access to before then.
You can level up your cooking skill with a basic campfire, making things like grilled mushrooms and grilled oyster
Gotcha. I tried co-op cooking with my partner and if she used an ingredient and placed it, we both got the meal, do i have that right? So is it wise to do all meals like this if i intend yo cook?
Yes, the results of group activities are shared. I believe that as long as someone else hosts, you don't need a particular skill level to join a cooking party
Ok. So the host would just have all the cooking stuff and start a meal?
I think so. I haven't participated in any myself, and I only just got my cooking skill up to 4. I'm just doing my best to parrot what I've read here š
Gotcha. Yeah im trying to learn so i could maybe host for my community. Currently the highest in all professions.
One thing I'll give you a heads-up for that came as a surprise for me: Once you graduate from campfire, you're gonna need at least 2 of every appliance. 2 mixing stations, 2 prep stations, 2 stoves. I just got the recipe for making an oven, probably need 2 of those as well. And that's just for yourself.
I love dancin song!

Thanks so much. I just found macaroons recipe and it needed 2 rolling tables
WOAH! two tress!
That happens sometimes! I've never seen them so close together though
Palia: a tale of two trees
i managed to get 4 once
#š¢āpalia-news message
Glider skins!
Damn guess they're listening to me after all

I'll be shocked if they're free. They didn't mention premium outfits and something's gotta be paid
Have you thought about adding a walkthrough to quest to the wiki? It will be a good touch
Literally just came here to see if they'd be paid 
Most likely... paid glider skins
But thats okay I have the cute chapaa one
When they bring out tool skins it'll be another storyš gimmie
I hope they fix the store being a white screen.
Unrelated. What happened to overnight farming? All the videos i see say that best way to make gold is to farm and they all talk about setting stuff up overnight and its all done. Yet it seems to me once i log off it only does one day cycle.
And they all say to sell seeds yet, seeds are worth more then the food
Maybe "overnight" only means in-game overnight? Cause yeah, they only grow one cycle when you're not logged in
sitting on chairs!? what a concept!! :^3
Im interested in this crest
I would love to see our character be able to have a horse and cart to go around in. Plus be able to farm some animals.
Right lol
WE CAN SIT ON CHAIRS NOW YALL
The Order Doth cometh.
very interesting..
chairs....
You'll see when you meet her, I'll say no more š
I can't wait
I'm SO excited for new quests and huntable creatures!
I'm upset by the sit on chairs feature. Sure it's cool but soon we won't be able to walk into our houses without accidentally causing a tornado cause everything has an interact feature. I just wanna turn it all off so I can admire my house without text boxes covering everything lol
Won't be able to look anywhere without a interact menu popping up
Every time they've added one of those features I suggest the ability to toggle the interactivity off but I've never heard back about it :( I miss being able to decorate my house the way I want
I'm leaving this here for those of you who don't know who the new character is.
It's no spoilers because S6 posted this.
i am in love with their silhouette š
Whatever they're wearing, I want it
likely Kenyara Bahari Kenli's sister, gonna get rough for Kenli, Reth and Zeki š
Saaaame!
I want those earrings bad
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i wish they'd say whether or not the glider skins are paid. im expecting they are but
It'd be nice if they have a few freebies for glider skins
šæ me awaiting

hopefully š
if only we could buy palia coins haha.. ha...
What kinda toppings you like on your popcorn
Just the usual salt and butter ig. I've had garlic parm powder on it though once and it tastes yummy
io am so happy rn
butter, salt, n m&ms
These guys are so majestic
I want domesticated sernuks tOo š
New update daY before b-day = awesome
sorry, is that gif hinting at mounts or js me?
I hope the glider skins has a few free ones we can craft or obtain in the world
No, it is the new NPC arriving in town
https://www.reddit.com/r/Palia/comments/17wrlkf/what_ruins_it_for_me_in_this_game/ man, people say the reddit is negative but dude gets downvoted to hell for the most milquetoast criticism
I want your opinion when do you think palia will come to switch
I imagine they want to aim for a little before Christmas. Will it be ready by then? that I'm not sure of
But our opinion is worthless
Probably before christmas if they can manage
Ok thank you I appreciate it
The only information we've been given is that they're working on it and they're aiming for the holiday season
Do I redownload this. Or wait for it to be patched in 6 months since it will be bad on launch?
Thank you
I don't even have the room on my switch so I'm probably gonna leave it be, unless it....somehow manages to run better than the PC version? idk. It's anyone's guess at this point
They really should give more info on it releasing on the switch
I'm sure they will when they have that info
Ooo intriguing
Oh hey that's interesting that they have that bit of extra "plumage" on their necks kinda makes me think of Tau
Ayo I see you out there recruiting for the discussions channel 
thats a lie about 15
all the white knights are on reddit rn ig ew
IT'S FRIGGEN TRUE I'm getting downvotes already every comment I'm making so I always like to reach out to others there who get downvoted to hell for saying anything negative to just come over here
I appreciate your efforts 

I'm so excited about this update!! So much good stuff is coming!
I'm looking forward to new story, I'm a big story person in games
yeah!
I don't interact with reddit anymore otherwise I'd give you an upvote for your efforts
I only go on like...two reddits and even then still piss me off with them sometimes lol. Still, better than the bleephole that's twitter
Oh the reddit... meh, let them have it. They need somewhere they can write love letters without much pushback.
Reth's Protection Squad where you at
So, have you ever had the issue of a white screen wall when trying to purchasing coins?
i dont buy coins so no. prob should go to the issue channel for that
known bug, they're working on it 
Oki, thankss, I“ll wait then :>

i wish i could earn coins in game tho. its so annoying when games add a premium currency and there is just no other way to get it other then irl money
To be fair the monetization is heavy in the wrong ways. If they'd lighten the cost and broaden their offerings (Oooo, glider skins... was someone taking notes? WHERE IS MY CHAPAA?) they'd be doing far better financially I believe.
fr. i dont get how ppl defend it. have some just, never played any other games? they need to make money but not everyone has disposable income or such
i'd gladly spent like 5 dollars to get a hat or cool shirt but not 20 dollars for a whole outfit in which i only like the shirt part
For real but at least they are not as bad as Disney Dreamlight Valley. I refuse to ever play that game again. I hope to see Palia have skin sales like fortnite. If they keep adding new skins every patch I really donāt know how their store will look. In a year we will have to scroll through several pages to shop.
i cant even play disney valley cause they went back on their f2p thing. hate how they decided to wait an entire year to announce that. and yeah! maybe it will turn out like blizzards cash shop LOL
Same as hate that they decided to stay paid but also keep their rotating premium shop and starpath. and that they have not fixed bugs from a year ago. And that they are deleting any negative comments on social media regarding their decisions to be greedy
and all the disney adults defending it so harcore.... 𤢠theyre scarier then palia white knights tbh
It honestly makes me fear for the future of all FtP games in if the woolen are willing to accept that. Really hope S6 doesnāt take a leaf from their book.
fr
Big reason why I'm so weary of f2p games
yeah. i hope a good f2p game comes around eventually. idk why f2p games just dont outright ask for donations or smth these days cause ppl donate to almost anything usually. i wont be surprised if ppl donate to games like crazy.
i was winterested to try it when itd go f2p. now im gonan say hell no.
from me playing it so much im burnt out i just cant do it anymore
i like disney but not enough to spend money on a bad game. if a pirate version comes out then ill get that xD
That is how Coral Island started and it is pretty cool how they honored their backers. It is not free to play but I love how open they are. Their communication has been great too but now they have entered full release we will see if they keep up the updates and communication.
Coral island has also been raising money for ocean restoration/preservation stuffs
which is awesome
its funny how i burn out on cozy games faster then anything action š id probably hyperfixate on it like i did palia till im burnt out
yup thats me i had my valley fully decrorated and man once i cleared it (fresh slate) i havent picked it up since, all i do is palia now
i even went and bought the ultimate like a year ago ;/ im excited about palia. Im one of those gamers that can just do mindless gathering and its enjoyable for me. so the fact we have a new update soon! aaaah im excited
despite the issues i have with palia i do wanna see it grow past the issues. the team (or some of them) do seem to be passionate. i just hope they get better at communicating a lot more openly
reading the reddit post i feel like these are reasonable complaints (if you can even call them that, theyāre more like critiques in my eyes). this might be a hot take but i feel like players who find flaws and critique the game tend to enjoy it/have more passion for it than people who blindly praise every aspect about it. usually i see players who find aspects of the game that could (and should) be better want the game to succeed. and i think itās super cool if someone has no issues with the game whatsoever, but i think it benefits everyone when flaws are discussed so the game can improve for everyone.
SHOUT THAT THROUGH A MEGAPHONE! more ppl need to hear this on the reddit and some in general need to hear this over and over. also wow automod decided to do that for no reason at all. they need to fix that or add a list of what is acceptable and what isnt
oh god did I get automodded for saying the S word again by accident
whatās the S word š
what is the s word? bad word or something harmless that the mods decided was bad
poop
i got automodded for mentioning scary animatronic movie in general once
I got automodded for saying the terminology of a mixed drink so I just say roostertail now
which was AWESOME cause we still had 2 min cooldown then
they dont allow that? why? XD
i get the server is 13+ but the automod is really weird sometimes...
[redacted]tail is wild
the only thing i've been modded for so far is stringing too many of the same letter together, so now i just do "aa-aa-aa-aah" instead...
anyway what I was trying to say is that I get why people can be defensive of criticism, I'm in the FFXIV community and there's a LOT of it right now and honestly a lot of it is unwarranted stuff or "my sibling in christ you asked for this", but like, this ain't it.
I definitely see a difference
ive stopped watching ffxiv youtube cos everyone just wants the game to be even harder. I'd have to stop playing if they get what they want..
I think criticism is essential to improving this game.
I just wish some folks were more constructive with their criticism.
I look at criticism as someone's opinion. I might not agree with them but I don't have to. It is how they see the game and if it causes them to quit then that isn't good.
ffxiv youtube has become unbearable after a certain video but that's a rant I'm not going to go into here 
Nah I def get that. I just see a lot of people knock even constructive criticism as complaining.
and i think itās cool if people want to praise the game, like thereās a lot to enjoy obviously bc why else would we be playing it. but hopping into a conversation thatās clearly about criticism seems a bit destructive. likewise, if chat is praising and celebrating the game i feel like someone popping in just to be a buzzkill is kinda tactless š itās happened a lot to me in different fandoms too. idk i just try to read earlier chats for context and stuff
i think it's best if everyone equally shared their opinion. If one group is just taught to never speak up, that group will inevitably disappear from the game when the threshold is reached where the game is no longer "for them"
Yep.
I see them too.
They aren't helping anymore than the ranters.

I cringe every time I see "just leave". That is how you end up with a failed game.
i have people pleasing habits iām trying to break but i always end up saying āi feel, i think, i believeā etc a lot
or any wording that yells "just leave if u dont like it" i hate that so much!
What I find unfortunate is that the state the game is in doesn't allow it to fully take advantage of that other game's announcement.
i mean, theres a line, if someone wants this game to be a tactical shooter with no cozyness whatsoever, they probably should. But everyone here generally is interested in cozy games and just has mildly different opinions of what that means, so unless the person is a troll, no-one should be told to just leave.
yeah, i play cozy games (opens god of war)
Yeah def. Like. If I see someone in the ffxiv subreddit going "god I hate that you have to level and do story in this game, I just wanna do endgame raids", that's when I feel it's okay to reply "this game might not be for you, other MMOs might be your jam".
but when people are going "I love cozy games but the long lasting bugs and monetization are really pushing me away", that's different
It's no way to work, that's for sure.
Shutting down opposition gets you treading water, not advancing.
But there are a small handful of people adding nothing but misinformation to the soup that I wouldn't miss!
I want legitimate criticism for S6 to take in.
Dw that's legit
plus, i actually want people to like the games that i like š i would like for them to stay if possible
ive tried that ive ended up solo cause of it. I just play for me at this rate
I'm around on the weekend if you ever need some zero pressure help with anything.
bet! i could always use a ft choppin buddy!
IGN: Offal
added! š
i think itās rlly cute when iām in a server with a bunch of strangers who all collectively agree to farm for flow trees. a little less cute when people start talking to each other passive aggressively. i just end up leaving when that starts š
How can we get more haybales? i only have one! and i wanted to make a little pumpkin patch area
And while they are busy arguing im over here collectin gems LOL
i googled palia haybales and it looks like theyāre a part of the makeshift set š„² time to go fishing
haybales can only obtained through waterlogged chests, really annoying to get them 
einar watching in despair as i throw away 500 fish in search of tattered furniture
Another reason to go fishing 
Iām so hyped for the next patch
is fishing without bait the best way to fish for makeshift furniture?
Fishing isnāt my thing but I donāt think thereās a difference between what bait you use? So probably if you donāt want to waste bait
I like to fish with worms just so I'm making a little extra with the fishes I catch while trying my luck at waterlogged chests. I don't think it affects the drop rate chance for the chests tho. 
I get more chests at the bubble nodes but bait doesn't seem to make a difference
hmn, no, bait does matter, as does location and bubble spots are the best percentage i believe
cool cool. ty everyone!
it's like about 1 in twenty for me just plain hook with no bubble node
i cant recall the website but there was one wich showed the odds of them, and it did matter what bait was used and wich type of body of water
closer to 1 in five with the node I can't tell if the bait makes a difference anymore b/c I only use glowworms
whats new in palia
depends on how long it's been since you logged in š
CD timer down to 30sec this is either a good sign (behaving) or a bad sign (so many people have left that a CD timer is pointless)
2 or so months
Starstones is basically the only new thing atm
well there's starstones now that you can mine and the drop rate on pallium got upped by 60% so everyone is mining now
I DO want to come back, but im waiting for a new town for more content. No shade to palia, I just need more.
I like that there's a way to make a lot of money fast and you don't have to stay on your lot tho
well have fun yall ily be good im going to playy sims 4
admittedly I use all of the extra gold to buy Zeki coins š
yeah I'm really looking forward to the new rental expansion
The new update is bringing a lot of stuff next week! Who do y'all think is the new character?
order person
Definitely seems like some sort of offish person like that. My friend mentioned Kenyara maybe? But idk! I think someone from the Order would be a great add!
good to see you again even if only briefly 
the last dev diary actually mentioned the order person and a new wild animal so
Ohhh I missed that. Sorry then.
I wish walk was a toggle
Run is a toggle in your settings, does that help ?
that doesnt work on walk unfortunately
i don't think i understand, if you toggle run off, wouldn't it be walk
Yes it does work. I use my configured to alt run button and if i dont want her to run i just hit shift
If you toggle run off its more... jog. Holding ctrl lets you walk proper for comparison
I did test in game if toggling the run makes walk a toggle, it doesnt.
yeah. default speed is a jog really, not walking or skipping. whatever ur walk key is bound to, is actual walking. i wish it was toggable too cause id like to walk around sometimes
fr. i wanna rp walk like in WoW. its just nice to walk and take in the scene yknow?
Rp walking folks intimidate me. I'll give you my lunch money 
I wonder if the glider skins will be free
Guess we will find out! 
We all know they'll very most likely be paid sadly. I hope I'm wrong but /shrug
I hope we're wrong 
My bets are on paid. Ill give you back your lunch money if im wrong
Oh good just don't walk towards me with RP walk after cuz then you'll get back my lunch money again 
Ill try and avoid it. Unless im broke.

Ill be sure to just bring you homemade lunch if i do. Lot cheaper then store bought. So at least youll have food
thank goodness!!
I can be mean, but im not a monster š

Almost seems like a business plan. Walk at people for their lunch money, but give them a proper lunchbox in return xD
Oh mi goggles, thats such a happy ducky!
it's been a while since I've played, so I'm having a hard time remembering--where in the server do we report glitches?
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Someone explain to me how I do not have the Fish Stew recipe lol
RNGuiseppe didnt think you should have it
Itās not going to happen, but I really wish the new Glider Skins cost Renown.
That'd be interesting. What makes you suggest renown? Other than nothing else to be spending renown on at some pt š
in case anyone was ever curious what the underneath of kilima looks like
Because I am desperate for something to cost renown since Iām at cap and refuse to waste achievements renown rewards and quest rewards while capped.
Anything beats it being a real money exclusive...
Honestly, Renown also being used for likeā¦a straw hat would also be really nice. But I know that tree is not to be barked up.
If i see it being real money, ill make it my lifes work to popularize surimi.
i've read somewhere here that they "nerfed" cake parties a bit ago, only heard abou them so far, never been to one myself, but what changed? Are they still worth doing?
They still make about 40k an hour, but are now a pain to organize
I canāt forsee just āskinsā being worth real money. Like whole new models and stuff it is possible. Chappa on a rocket, sure. But like, base glider in red? That is a perfect Renown sink.
Have you seen the store? Half of that would be free in any other game
But to their credit none of them are existing items just recolored. Only new items recolored.
Youd be surprised what you can do with some maps.
But yeah, half of whats in the store isnt special enough to pay for imo. I get that they need money, but that wont change how i feel.
Full disclosure that i did drop some money and havent spent half of it cos nothings worth it.
I'd be more willing to pay real money to get some if I could pick all the colors myself
Iām just trying to manifest Renown rewards with this update so I can actually talk to th e new NPC.
Instead of being told "it comes in these three combos, have fun"
I want more progress from renown. Like runspeed or focus affectiveness or any of 9001 other buffs i cant be bummed to type out on my phone
The problem with the color combos is that since so much of the clothing is outsourced they are wildly inconsistent with how the colors are used. And whole sets will just not have a blue/white option or a green option or a pink option at all.
Theyre not outsourced, it just a seperate team within s6 (like 5-10 people by my guesstimate)
They really need to give us primary/secondary color choosing
No, a lot of them were legit out sourced from contractor teams.
Yes they do. Ill even accept them selling additional dyes for real money if we can have colour picking.
