🌱│gardening

[supple scroll]

increase your fishing level and buy the recipe from Einar

[wise ruin]

level up your fishing skill 👍 i believe to level 7

[wise token]

oh alright thanks alot... I am very low in fishing, farming and decoration ....

fishing take alot of time and patients tough

[still blade]

Thank you!

[wise ruin]

My pleasure! 😄 I’m kind of addicted to making garden layouts with the Palia Garden Planner 👀

[supple scroll]

does planting 1x blueberry seed occupy 4 squares automatically? or do i need to plant 1x blueberry seed on each of those 4 squares?

[wise ruin]

True that. If you keep your focus bar full though (from eating) and you fish near someone else (that is also fishing), you will receive max XP buffs. This will get you closer to getting your fishing skill to level 7 👍

[wise ruin]

Planting 1 blueberry seed fills up 4 squares automatically (in a 2x2 square).

[supple scroll]

thanks!\

[wise ruin]

I’m happy to help!

The same also applies to Spicy Pepper seeds and Apple seeds.

[wise token]

i think this is a good layout for farming but Im short of all kinds of seeds 😄 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvJDS8Oaolc&t=906s

[wise token]

thats a good advice

[still blade]

I shall ask for your help once I have enough funds to make a better garden then

[wise ruin]

I’m glad 😊

[wise ruin]

I will be more than happy to help out 😊 you can make money from hunting, getting pearls from oysters, selling crops that you harvest (best to have at least 1 seed maker), selling grilled fish, etc.

Fun fact: seeds sell for more than crops sell.

[still blade]

Yeah, I've been running around selling most of the stuff I get lol

I finally made 500 and I can't quite decide if I should buy the backpack or the sawmill/furnace

[wary finch]

I guess, I told you having started a new character on sunday. This is her peppers, rice, potatoes garden, rectangular with shifted 9th plot. She has no blueberries yet https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11111-11111_CROPS-PSp.QSp.QRSp.QSp.QSp.QSp.QSp.Q-RSp.QSp.QPSp.QSp.QSp.QRSp.Q-RSp.QSp.QPSp.QSp.QSp.QRSp.Q-RSp.QSp.QPSp.QSp.QSp.QRSp.Q-NNNNNNSp.QPR-Sp.QSp.QSp.QRSp.QSp.QPSp.QSp.Q-Sp.QPSp.QRSp.QSp.QPSp.QSp.Q-Sp.QPSp.QRSp.QSp.QPSp.QSp.Q-Sp.QPSp.QRSp.QSp.QPSp.QSp.Q-Sp.QSp.QSp.QRSp.QSp.QNNN

potatoes get pickled, feeding normal worm farms, rice is for sale, peppers get pickled as well.

[wise token]

buy the bag pack and start hunting to make some starting money also try to get copper arrow recipe as quick as u can so that u can hunt down the sermuk in 1 shot only

[wary finch]

mining everything you can generates a lot of gems. even just plain stone nodes can have quartz, 200 a piece. 3 villagers love quartz.

this way you can afford the 5000 gold upgrade of your bag pretty soon as well.

and mining is important, you want to mine palium later on and once you have passed level 10 you can just buy palium bars from hodari with guild medals.

[still blade]

Thanks, lads. I'll follow your advice.

[dry spire]

Imma try this one! (at least there are only 4 (3x3) slots I have to attend to (but if you can recommend simpler ones that would be much appreciated))
I used to do all tomatoes which I find so simple and good for me
then tried other layouts from this thread which didn't work for me ~ (because of replanting)
Thanks for this Kwatsu!

[wise token]

found this near perfect gardening layout: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-C.HT.HC.HO.HP.HO.HC.HT.HC.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-T.HP.HT.HC.HO.HC.HT.HP.HT.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-T.HP.HT.HC.HO.HC.HT.HP.HT.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-C.HT.HC.HO.HP.HO.HC.HT.HC.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H

[outer ruin]

Same layout with divided fert and diversity

[prime mirage]

we are a bit alike

[dusty plinth]

The gardening is really hard for me to do because I don't have the best of patience

[nova yoke]

That's my typical one too, but quite literally just reversed the pattern. Fantastic

[nova yoke]

Wait I love this design. It's so easy to repeat with the same effect, except less onions it looks like.

Too bad it's difficult to include wheat and corn without leaving at least one behind to be non-water retained/unweed protected.

[haughty geyser]

Van we Max have 9 harden spots?

[echo hedge]

for now, yes. We're hoping that in the future, the game will expand. But currently, only 9 plots

[haughty geyser]

Thanks for info help me plan

[grand pasture]

I’m pretty happy with what I created to have all the seeds. Even if not all bonuses are 100% I find it quite profitable.

[echo hedge]

I thought I did good with this plan, until I saw the above plan!!! All those crops!

[acoustic laurel]

I've been working on this one. I left a cotton in there in case I ever needed it but I would like to increase harvest boost while keeping water retention and weed prevention

[timber swift]

Hello everyone. Any good farming plan to make good preserve jars? I want to make it my main income. Thanks.

[dusty kayak]

Have you considered 5 apple trees

[wary finch]

I'm not going for apples again, much too cumbersome handling imo.

basically I have 9 blueberry bushes and 5 peppers

[dusty kayak]

im working on setting up this

and just never picking the wheat/rice

[wary finch]

mine is as well a 2 rows setup, I like it much more than 3x3

[gaunt aurora]

if you wanted to have 100% water retention with apples but also wanted to include some blueberries to make celebration cakes:

[dusty kayak]

slowly waiting for the weedplot to get weeds XD

[wary finch]

cool, I didn't think of those planters to be used as garden deco

[dusty kayak]

enjoy XD

[gaunt aurora]

can you show the yield numbers as well to compare them to other configurations rather than just the pattern itself

[dusty kayak]

tbf the websites calculations are very rough estimates and depending on a lot of variables you can be making much different numbers, then there's gold in general but also gold per hour, it's a little hectic

but the layouts in my doc all link to the website for someone to look over themselves : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GyPgetnBlxypFaYzvGSyhGPntXnpMxsm_q8zvXYHEqg/edit#heading=h.4rn3fsx0rkaz

[gaunt aurora]

on your 6 apple tree pic, why do you have rice and wheat for the middle row?
if you replaced it with a tomato and potato row youd keep the same amount of apples but have 4 trees water retained

[dusty kayak]

oh this is milk's not mine

it's just the weedplot strat, it's purpose is to be easy to handle and get apples that's about it

i am switching to it because i am getting lazy in my old age /hj

[gaunt aurora]

same amount of apples with less watering seems even easier to handle no?

[dusty kayak]

whats the point in like that small of less watering (ignoring the fact the layout is using hydrate fert)

i dont really mind watering the trees anyways they're just trees and the exquisite watering can waters more then one at a time and pretty fast

[gaunt aurora]

opens it up to quality fertilizer for anyone whos gardening level is too low would be the only thing i can think of (outside of the tomato/potato being good for other recipes)

[dusty kayak]

well yeah sure but that's for another scenario

one could edit it that way sure

[clear kindle]

by the time people get to having 6 apples trees, quality boost is irrelevant because more than likely you're already getting more starred than not. you can easily change the pattern depending on what you want with the layout. the wheat/rice/corn will grant a larger yield and you spend money on the water retention fertilizer. on the other hand, you can use the tomatoes and potatoes for water retention but at the cost of needing to get the hypergrow fertilizer from the worm farms. which means that you would be putting the apple jams most likely into worm bins to get 16 harvest boosts every hour

[vernal bluff]

So I wanted to place 7 apples and make each one of them harvest boosted, so I created this ahhahahaha:
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-01010-11111-01010_CROPS-AAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAA-CrWCrWNWCrWCr-AAAAAAAAA-WCrWCrNCrWCrW-AAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAA

[dusty kayak]

i love this lol

[heavy mist]

im curious, is there any reason to hold onto ⭐ cotton?

[dusty kayak]

thats good to sell

[heavy mist]

Yeah that's what i figured since making fabric out of regular or star cotton doesnt change the quality of the fabric

[dusty kayak]

right right

though at some point most if not all of what you make will be starred so you are kind of forced to downgrade for making fabric in that sense

[heavy mist]

true

[ionic compass]

improved 🤔 it a bit
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-01010-11111-01010_CROPS-A.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.Hp-A.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.Hp-A.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.Hp-Cr.HpWCr.HpWT.HpWCr.HpWCr.Hp-A.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.Hp-W.HpCrW.HpCrT.HpCrW.HpCrW.Hp-A.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.Hp-A.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.Hp-A.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.Hp

[neon jungle]

I am still using this and I am happy with it. I like money.

[valid plank]

Oru isn't active anymore but this used to be widely used layout for apples.

Numbers highly inaccurate and Oru would argue they're not if he were active and around, but it's still a great layout

[neon jungle]

Thanks for the update!

Is there a link for that?

[valid plank]

Let me dig haha. He hasn't been active in months but I believe there was

Dx cannot find a garden link for them no, mobile discord is absolute garbage for channel searching now

[wise ruin]

Haha you’ll definitely be getting a lot of apples from this 😂

[wise ruin]

That definitely works 👍

[wise ruin]

If you would like a specific build, can you please message me? 🙂

[wise ruin]

I would save the backpack for when you’re getting a stable amount of money. But if you’re collecting so much and hurting on inventory space, definitely buy backpack upgrade.

[wise ruin]

This is a good idea also as a reason for upgrading backpack 👍

[nova yoke]

If they're right about the "only 9 weeds can exist in a plot" then would this technically work?

Or do the weeds cancel out the plant's ability.

[vernal bluff]

I’m back with more crazy designa ahahaha. So it’s super easy to create a plot with 7 harvested apples and a bush. Example: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-1111111-0011000_CROPS-AAAAAAAAA-WAACrAAWAA-AAAAAAAAA-AWAACrAAWA-AAAAAAAAA-AACrAAWAACr-AAAAAAAAA-BBWBBCrNNN-AAAAAAAAA

But I wanted to do 2 bushes, but no matter how hard I tried there is a non harvested apple, sharing it anyway ahahahaha:
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-0100-1111-1111_CROPS-AAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAA-BBABBAWCrA-AACrAAWAACr-AAAAAAAAA-WCrASpSpASpSpA-AAAAAAAAA-AACrAAWAACr-AAAAAAAAA

[vernal bluff]

The weeds would cancel the center and it worked like this before, but now if there are 9 weeds on one plot all 9 go back in growing

[nova yoke]

Hm, then 8 weeds on one plot and then the tomato in the top right being a weed?

[vernal bluff]

And I mean not 9 like small once, but all 9 3*3 plots

[vernal bluff]

You can just leave the weeds if they are on potatoes/tomatoes/wheat/corn and only take them from apples, then you’ll have ur 9 weeds around different plots

[sterile vessel]

why are people trying to actively grow weeds? genuine question not sarcastic

[valid plank]

Yes this is how weed plots once worked. But now your garden will bug out at 9 weeds.

[vernal bluff]

Bc weeds are cool

[valid plank]

The bug can be avoided by being on plot and online for a growth cycle. But say your crops are a day from harvest and you leave or logout for a tick, they'll reverse.

You can workaround it by being on plot and online until a replant and just biting the bullet.

Otherwise, I'd say weed plots have become quite a pain since the switch patch

[valid plank]

Your garden can only ever have 9 weeds at a time. It was a method to let a 3x3 collect weeds and then move it somewhere separate from your garden and the remaining tiles would now have a natural weed block and you have room now to use other buffs. After the patch that introduced switch, though, it's bugged and doesn't work efficiently anymore.

Now your crops will grow in reverse once 9 weeds consistently exist instead of progressing as intended. And I don't see S6 fixing this as utilizing weeds this way is technically an exploit and not intended gameplay

Hope I explained that in a way that makes sense. I utilized weeds for most of my garden layouts and I did try to warn people that they no longer work but people still try lol

@dusty kayak You should probably warn people, I know you discuss my weed plots with people here and there ;-; they sadly bork

[dusty kayak]

i do often mention it for sure LOL

[clear kindle]

now, what if you did the weed plot, but only allowed 8 weeds to be on that plot? set up how you have described, but once the 9th weed shows up just pick that one?

does it still grow normally?

[gleaming glen]

Sharing my plot layout because it has been doing wonders for me. Takes a little bit to learn but it's pretty easy after a few times. You don't have to add the weed resistance fert if you don't mind pulling weeds but I find it works best if you use water retain on the four spaces that are not protected by potatoes or tomatoes. I periodically switch out the blueberries to peppers as my stock lowers (I primarily live off the Chili Oil Dumplings as it is the easiest to make on my own) but otherwise the rice/wheat goes into worms, all the other veggies/fruit get preserved, and the two cotton can be switched out for rice if you have enough fabric: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.WTP.WRO.WCoP.WTP.W-C.WCrC.WPTPRC.WR-P.WTP.WCoO.WRP.WTP.W-O.WBBRBBP.HpO.WR.Hp-A.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.W-BBRBBO.WO.HpRP.Hp-O.WCrC.WPT.WPO.WRC.W-PTPRO.WRPTP-CCrO.WPT.WPC.WRO.W

[valid plank]

I think I tried this and that 9th weed will trigger the bug even if you pick it.

The few times I tried, all weeds have to be picked to fix the bug once that 9th weed grows.

I haven't tried since mid December as I've been moving homes but there hasn't been a patch since then

[dusty kayak]

ive been mostly saying im gonna do this anyways and face the consequences of my actions when the crops grow in reverse lmfaooo

[valid plank]

LOL valid

[wise ruin]

i have seen weeds spawning on crops at random. the whole "9 weeds in a plot" might be true, but it spawns on a random crop. therefore, the picture of this garden layout can have weeds spawn on any of the 9 soil spots where crops exist in.

[wise ruin]

weeds = extra gold

[nova yoke]

Me when I just use the onion - carrot combo until they're all weeded up, or simply use the fertilizer from Zeki that prevents weed growth: 🥺

[wise ruin]

fascinating 🤔

[valid plank]

You'd weed weeds that appear where you don't want until all 9 are where you want lol

All 9 of mine are on one plot like they pictured

[wise ruin]

if it's of any consolation, weeds don't seem to disrupt when my crops are ready for harvest. Water Retain affects that. Meaning that if the crops need to be watered, they will not be ready for harvest sooner. It merely pauses the progress of when they can be harvested.

[wise ruin]

haha nice. I just pull all the weeds and sell them. I also heard there's some kind of mission where we will need weeds.

[valid plank]

lol.

[wise ruin]

and since I can harvest even with weeds on the crop, there's no real negative impact on it.

[valid plank]

Weeds prevent growth if not picked on a crop that isn't fully grown yet, the same as not watering.

[wise ruin]

I've been able to harvest my apple trees with weeds. I have to pull the weeds first, and then I can harvest.

[valid plank]

That would be because the weeds grew on harvest day.

[wise ruin]

then how am I able to harvest right after pulling the weeds?

[valid plank]

#🌱│gardening message

If the weeds grew day before harvest day and you didn't pick them the tree wouldn't progress.

[wise ruin]

as mentioned earlier, there has no been negative impact on weeds in my experience.

[valid plank]

Okay.

[wise ruin]

just pull weeds whenever you see them

you can make a little extra cash off of them.

[valid plank]

https://tenor.com/view/new-girl-moon-walk-leave-walk-away-go-away-gif-25367292

[nova yoke]

Not with my style of spending multiple in game days away from my plot to go farm iron/Palium. That makes my farm look lopsided so this is what I CURRENTLY run. (Can't figure out a way to get the center ones with weed protection without constantly adding fertilizer)
(Also I change out the wheat to whatever crop I'm running out of)

[wise ruin]

you can move the wheat to the soil closest to them and put carrots and onions in their spot. If you want, I can make a layout for you that follows the idea of 4 apple trees, 100% water retain, and (possibly) 100% weed prevention. 🙂

[shell iron]

yes, because if you don't pull them, crops don't grow, like milk was saying

[nova yoke]

Move the wheat to the soil closest to them?

I want the wheat itself for cooking, it's the one crop I find myself running out of constantly, though I didn't want to disrupt my usual cash flow. Typically I just have 5 apple trees there in an X shape.

[valid plank]

If your pfp a Flemish giant 🥹

[wise ruin]

would you like help with the layout?

[nova yoke]

It's my pet rabbit named Bambi. He's normal sized bun.

[valid plank]

Aw, cutie! I had a Flemish with similar features and got excited ^^ haha

[wise ruin]

here you go. 4 apple trees, 100% Water Retain, 100% Weed Prevention.

i hope this helps 🙂

[nova yoke]

Oh wow.

[wise ruin]

at the cost of having 100% to both buffs, I could only manage to have 4 wheat in there 😓

if wheat is what you want most, you could make HarvestBoost Fertilizer and put it on the wheat.

or maybe someone else can make a better layout that has what I got, but with more wheat.

[echo hedge]

I seen this earlier, and I wanted to test it, but.....1 star quality cotton sells for 67 gold, but put 1 in the seed maker, it makes 3 x star quality cotton seed, which is 30gold each. so 67g versus 90gold (3 seeds per cotton in the machine)

I might have to make a spreadsheet to test this with ALL the crops now!

[heavy mist]

now thats big brain thinking

[sullen salmon]

Here’s my farm layout. It’s working great so far and is self-sustaining.

For people who don’t have fruit yet 🙂

[wise ruin]

made this just now. it only has 5 wheat though 😅

[wise ruin]

nice 👍

[sullen salmon]

Saving this for when I have apples. Thank you!!!

[wise ruin]

np 👍 happy to help out with garden layouts 🙂 I find the challenge is pretty fun with the Palia Garden Planner.

i'm thinking i might go with this layout for myself that I made.

it will get me 430 ⭐️ apple jam, and a good portion of money.

[sullen salmon]

That payout 😍
I’d only be worried about weeds. How often do they spawn? How big of a pain do they end up being?

[wise ruin]

they spawn not very often. and when they do, it's only whenever I go back to my place. They spawn (probably) at 6:00am in-game.

[wise ruin]

and not big of a pain if you sell them

10 gold per weed. a nice extra cash

weed prevention is good for if you hate weeding in general, but it doesn't raise the money you could be earning.

if the economy wasn't so bad in the game (struggling with money at the beginning of the game for new players like me), then I would personally consider weed prevention. but due to the economy, I have my mind on making as much money as possible.

[sullen salmon]

Same. I’m almost to level 10 gardening, so bring on the cash flow.

[wise ruin]

haha yeah, you can also get 2 free apple seeds from completing Zeki's friendship quest (either level 3 or 4 quest).

[wise ruin]

but yeah, the apple seeds are expensive 🤣

[acoustic laurel]

And naio gives you one at 3 too

[sullen salmon]

I have so many seed generators at this point because I refuse to pay for seeds

[wise ruin]

Oh right 🤔

[wise ruin]

Haha likewise. I now have 30 ⭐️ quality apple seeds in my inventory. Apple trees eventually disappear after enough harvests.

[valid plank]

Apples are 12 days+6 days+6 days +6 days. Then need replanted.

30 in game days / active hours total. 4 total harvest days.

[wise ruin]

it also counts the time you have the game turned off

[valid plank]

When you are offline, your garden only ticks once.

[wise ruin]

while your game is off, the in-game time continues because it's an MMO. therefore, the garden continues to progress (unless something disrupts it such as lack of water).

[wise ruin]

but if you say so 🙂

[valid plank]

Your garden does not progress more than one day while you are offline.

[wise ruin]

if that's what you believe, who am I to try and get you to think otherwise?

[valid plank]

You are going to misinform other players.

[wise ruin]

i have witnessed what I have seen. I am not attempting to change your mind.

nor, am I attempting to change other people's minds.

[golden surge]

the garden grows only one tick after logging off.🙂

[wise ruin]

that's fine if you believe that 🙂 as I have been saying, I am not attempting to make anyone believe otherwise.

[golden surge]

?!? its nothing I believe lmao, its a fact dude u are talking bs

[wise latch]

My observations of offline gardening.

1. Garden growth is at 6:00am
2. If you are logged in any time past 6:00am, the next days growth will occur at the state the garden is at 6:00am next Palia day.
3. If you DO NOT log in post 6:00am since a growth cycle, no further growth cycles occur.

Please correct me if I am incorrect.

[valid plank]

Yup! You got it

[golden surge]

u are correct

[wise ruin]

am i arguing with you? I am not. Not once have I told you that you are wrong.

[feral oasis]

oh right i remember what i was coming here for now

[valid plank]

Passive aggressive arguing but if you say so

[feral oasis]

milk can you send the apple sheet you made before

im stealing your math

[valid plank]

Eh? With the weed plot?

[feral oasis]

yeah im just using the numbers

and part of the picture*

[feral oasis]

ty

toddler says it needs more train

[valid plank]

Train? They'll have to teach me and the railway how to grow a train!

I'm not knowledgeable in the cultivation of trains Dx

[wise ruin]

if that's what you think is going on, I won't judge. Who am I to tell you that your wrong. I know that I'm not arguing, but I know you won't believe me. You're kind of arguing with yourself. Are you okay? 😰

[shell iron]

it's just really confusing for others when you state the game works a way that it's known not to

you made a logical conclusion, but incorrect

[feral oasis]

you know it sounds like a bug only machines like seeders etc proccess while you're offline

[shell iron]

if the devs didn't tell us it's meant to work the way it works, I'd definitely have assumed it's a bug, yeah-

especially from a game balance perspective

[wise ruin]

If I was stating facts, I'd still be arguing with you. I'm attempting to drop it, but you're not letting it go.

[valid plank]

Lmao

[wise ruin]

honestly, no one is dropping it

[shell iron]

I just got here, but all I see is the conversation moved on and you brought it back up?

[feral oasis]

you brought it up after i changed the topic to an apple layout sir

[wise ruin]

this isn't worth arguing over. but if someone is trying to start an argument, then that's a different story.

[wise ruin]

all i'm doing is responding.

[shell iron]

I mean yeah, that's how conversation works

[wise ruin]

ok, I'll just forcefully drop it by not talking about this.

[acoustic laurel]

I'm curious, have you noticed crops being fully grown after being logged for a while? If so it might be a (good) bug on your end

[wise ruin]

so how's everyone's day going? 🙂 anyone enjoying their garden?

[valid plank]

Yeah, I'd test it by planting fresh seeds before you go to bed :) if they're fully grown next time you log in you should file a ticket.

[shell iron]

my garden is all I have until bug fixes, I can't wait for the next patch!

[acoustic laurel]

I mean or dont cuz it's a nice exploit lol

[valid plank]

(It would be if it were real)

[valid plank]

Rip temple and subira

[acoustic laurel]

Subira? What bug

[shell iron]

the temple bug where you can't complete it, so you can't do the bundles or anything (known, being worked on)

it's just been a hot minute

[acoustic laurel]

I know about the temple I've been avoiding it I never heard of one for subira

[valid plank]

Have people who were locked out of subira been able to? Didn't know if that got fixed or not

[shell iron]

you can do the temple with current info, you just need to be careful

[valid plank]

I was never locked out

[shell iron]

yes subira got fixed iirc

[valid plank]

Oo good

[acoustic laurel]

Welp never effected me lol

[valid plank]

Same ;-;

[shell iron]

yeah - the subira tihng only happened if you told Esche you weren't ready for the party

[acoustic laurel]

Ahh yeah I avoided that. I'm glad zekis didn't have that since I keep telling him I'm ready

This got waaaay of topic from gardening lol

[shell iron]

sorry!

[valid plank]

It was a necessary evil to push chat up.

Apples.

[clear kindle]

so... would it be a safe bet to say that sometime in the future we will have either a cabbage or lettuce and pumpkin crops?

[echo hedge]

the lettuce would be amazing. Lettuce soup!

A work in progress

[clear kindle]

i'm only guessing since when you go to cook something like hearty vegetable soup, the starting ingredients show two crops that we don't have access to yet

[echo hedge]

the chart I made isn't complete at all for all things profit. For example, lots of people like to know the typical harvest per crop, and how long the crop takes (and also, how many squares they use up is a factor I don't read about). This was just a quick and dirty "what should I do with my crops once they're out the ground/off the tree" kind of thing

[open monolith]

I want cucumbers so I can make Pickles!! 🙂

[storm timber]

does anyone have a good plan that doesnt have fruits? still working on getting them

[clear kindle]

i just did tomatoes and potatoes in rows seed the stars and pickle the normal, i didn't mind weeding as it was free gold

[still blade]

Thank you. I bought the 500 one and I've been able to maintain myself above 1,500 by doing lots of stuff, mostly mining as someone suggested. I'm slowly getting to a stable income thanks to the grid you provided as well.

[wise ruin]

I'm glad I could help you..

[echo hedge]

finally finished. It's not thorough, just a quick guide

[willow void]

Can someone show me a good pre-25 layout o/

[nova yoke]

For gold, or every crop?

[willow void]

for gold

[robust thistle]

Is there still a 9 weed limit? And if there is a weed on a crop, does it disable that crops benefit(i.e. potato water retention)

[nova yoke]

My go to automatic gold farm (aka doesn't need your input at all) currently is this.
However replace the center wheat with another apple tree.
(If you do have apple trees available, since you can get them from quests quite early-ish)

[robust thistle]

The note about watering the weed plot, can you make your weed plot from potato and tomatoes so they water themselves or do the weeds disable their abilities?

[valid plank]

Idk if you read further up but the weed plots are currently bugged. But you can use water retain yes

The moment 9 weeds exist the bug is triggered. Even picking the 9th weed won't get rid of the bug, you'll have to weed all the weeds to fix it. I'm currently only allowing 7 weeds to be on my separate weed plot, and accepting that I have to weed hopefully only once a day*

Honestly it's probably easier to just pretend weed plots no longer exist.

[robust thistle]

So the weed plot can't water itself?

[valid plank]

You don't need the weed plot to do anything, the crops won't grow once they have weeds on them anyways. They're sacrificial crops.

[robust thistle]

Yes understood but if watering them fixes the bug

[valid plank]

But yes, they can water retain, the only requirement to have a weed plot was weeds.

[robust thistle]

Can't you make your weed plot out of potatoes and tomatos?

[valid plank]

Watering no longer fixes the bug. That was a prior bug

[robust thistle]

Oh

Darn okay

[valid plank]

As of switch launch, 9 weeds will cause your crops to grow in reverse

Unfortunately I don't think they will fix either, as it is technically an exploit :P

[wary finch]

this shows the beauty of S6 crops design, it isn't mandatory to go for blueberries or apples, a profitable garden is achievable as well with more common crops (sometimes those yield even better profits in a shorter amount of time).

[unreal tangle]

Some layout I came up with today that gives an apple tree and a blueberry bush with all buffs while also being 100% watered and weeded. Definitely not the best money and definitely not perfectly optimized but it was fun to put together. Also has a decent balance of most crops.

[frosty ginkgo]

I have a lot of questions about gardening. I want to get more into it in Palia but I am so confused on things

[unreal tangle]

@frosty ginkgo Ask away 🙂

[frosty ginkgo]

So when it comes to what to sell and not to sell as someone who has no preservatives machines, what do I sell or keep?

Like do I sell the regular crops and keep the quality ones for seeds?

[unreal tangle]

Keeping quality crops for seeds is a good idea as it will help you get 100% quality seeds. I'd say only keep what you need for seeds and sell the rest if you have no intention of using any of your crops for cooking/preserving.

Preserving jars will increase the value of any of your crops by 50% which is a great way to make money.

[frosty ginkgo]

I don't have perserving jars yet XD

[unreal tangle]

You'll get them pretty quickly though. Farming levels up fast once you get a decent layout going.

[frosty ginkgo]

I didn't focus very much on gardening until now. I am more using it now to get money since I feel I am always out XD

[unreal tangle]

Do you have all 9 farming plots unlocked?

[frosty ginkgo]

Not yet

Should I focus on that?

[unreal tangle]

Definitely focus on doing that with your gold first then.

[frosty ginkgo]

Okay. I realize I hoard so much in games because I don't know what I need so I was trying to save up on gold for the copper storage box XD

With fertilizer you can add 2 of them on the same square right?

[unreal tangle]

Afraid not, you can only use 1 type of fertilizer on a square at a time.

Using a different type on the same square will return the old fertilizer back to you.

But you can stack several of the same type of fertilizer on 1 square if that's what you're asking 🙂

[harsh rampart]

You can however stack effects by using a crop with an effect on other plants, then putting the fertilizer with the effect you want on that plant.

[frosty ginkgo]

What layout would you recommend me using?

[unreal tangle]

There are several helpful gardening guides to get you started online.

And there's the gardening layout planner which is great if you want to get creative and theorycraft.

[frosty ginkgo]

Thank you so much.

[unreal tangle]

Glad to help!

I'd recommend making an AFK layout so that you can passively grow crops while working on all your villager friendship quests and making money through your other skills at the same time to unlock the better chests/bag space; because those upgrades are massive.

[frosty ginkgo]

I only have 1 more pack upgrade left and was working on getting the copper storage chest

[last geode]

I've had to start saving for iron storage as my copper is almost full. Its a real struggle haha

[frosty ginkgo]

Every time my wooden ones get full my brain goes "Okay who is getting sold and what isn't?"

[unreal tangle]

I'm just waiting for them to give us a palium chest with more storage. 10,000 spaces isn't enough.

[frosty ginkgo]

I want that XD

Also there is no quest you have to expand your plot 5 times is there?

[unreal tangle]

I don't remember to be honest sorry. I think I finished buying deeds months ago lol

You get renown crazy fast from just levelling skills and doing quests.

[frosty ginkgo]

LOL

Someone said something about it on youtube and I got so confused XD

[dusty kayak]

Probably 5 plots
Buying 3
You have 2 by default

This is not space with writs but new plot layout slates that are empty and you can swap between

Buying a new plot lot 3 times unlocks gazebo

50k, 75k, then 100k gold

[frosty ginkgo]

ah gotcha thank you

[echo hedge]

you are in luck! I literally made this last night: of course, if you don't have jars, you can look at what the next best figure for crops to sell as (seeds, crops, jars)

the purple squares are the best of each crop catergory. The "sell" is the figure you want to look at, that is how much gold you'll get from selling. I also listed the "normal" crop figure, and "star" figure, just because I know cotton star shouldn't be used as fabric. Also, and I double checked, but corn normal quality has no difference in sell price when made into seeds or jars!

I also put the amount each crop makes as seeds, for normal and star, because like the apple crop uses 10 apples to make 1 seed. I also did a sort of "top" list of top selling crop, seed, and jars for normal and star.

[frosty ginkgo]

Thank you so much. I get so confused on what to sell and not to sell. Does "star" cotton sell for more than regular or no?

I get so confused whether to sell it or make more seeds

[echo hedge]

cotton star sells for 67g, but the cotton star seed sells for 90g

[frosty ginkgo]

so use the star cotton I get to turn into seeds and then sell the seeds?

[echo hedge]

yup

[frosty ginkgo]

Okay! So in hindsight, use normal cotton seeds use a quality fertilizer to make them star turn those into seeds and then sell?

[echo hedge]

oh, when it comes to crop plans, I'm a mess with that. Hopefully others would know a good setup with cotton in it. I have emphasized water retention and weed proofing with my crops

[frosty ginkgo]

lol

It's all so complicated

[echo hedge]

but flexible too. if you think you will want lots of fabric, or need certain crops for things, it's ok to make up your own setup. There's also other recipes too, so I want to build up blueberries for cakes

and there's no rule that says you can't rotate the setups. I'm thinking if like doing one setup for a whole evolution of apple trees, then changing it up when it's all needing replanted

[frosty ginkgo]

I am more at the moment trying to make money so I can buy more stuff for my house along with upgrading my chests.

[echo hedge]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/ this gets addictive

it's a crop planner, it will show how much money you make overall, plus if you want, a day by day look. The crop boosts % at the bottom, it even has options to add fertilizer to squares

and it helps you figure out how many crops you'll need, and estimates of crops you'll recieve

[frosty ginkgo]

Thank you!

[robust thistle]

yes! and i like this layout personally for the fact that there are a little over 50 spots with water retain to plant whatever you want

56 i believe

[tacit stratus]

@echo hedge This may not be optimal but this is what I use to get 100% water retention and weed prevention. You only get 2 squares for whatever you want (cotton in the picture) out of 9 but everything is watered and weeded so it's fire and forget until harvest time.

[echo hedge]

I had saved this plan from someone else's post, which has cotton

[echo hedge]

also this, if you don't have blueberries

[tacit stratus]

I wish I could add some spices to my garden.

[echo hedge]

yeah, a herbs and spices mini greenhouse would be amazing! Mmmm, time to find the feedback link

[tacit stratus]

And mushrooms! Those are so crucial early in the game (and maybe later for all I know).

[unreal tangle]

This is a new layout I'm going to try experimenting with for maximum profit 🙂 Jarring the apples and tomatoes and seeding the potatoes and rice. Cost is 22 HarvestBoost fertilizer per day which is pretty cheap and easy to make.

[sick glacier]

Does it matter with cotton if I use regular or stars for fabric?

[dapper lake]

Nope. You get normal fabric every time. But if you use star cotton, the fabric you make will be worth less than the star cotton left unprocessed.

[sick glacier]

What do you guys grow to sell and what gets repurposed? Should I leave star cotton as is to sell?

[dapper lake]

Star cotton, potatoes, wheat, and rice sell for the most as seeds. The others all sell for the most as preserves (or even more if you put the preserves through the worm farms).

[still blade]

Is there a way to remove a plant from a tile or even better, move it?

[tacit stratus]

You can remove it by holding the hoe and tilling (basically the same as when it's just dirt) while standing on the plant square.

[still blade]

Thank you!

[shell fern]

Hullo, does anyone have a farm layout with 100% water retain and profitable blueberries?

[turbid cobalt]

how do you get more plots?

for planting

[sick glacier]

Gardening dude, name starts with a B. Im blanking. They go up in price as you buy starting at 500

[turbid cobalt]

OH i rember

[maiden python]

Badruu.

[haughty geyser]

growing mushroom, sweetleaf and spice would be nice

[dusty kayak]

[dusty kayak]

👀

Adain at work

[ionic compass]

https://paliapedia.com/tools/garden would love to get some feedback

click click click to discover better layouts 😉

[frail escarp]

Adain's pace is damn amazing

[valid plank]

Adain is the angel we don't deserve always

[olive crypt]

Here is a blueberry focused layout with 100% water retain. I tried to focus the harvest boost on blueberries and made the rest of the harvest into jars/seeds to maximize profit. Pre lvl 25 and post lvl 25. Hope you like it!

[olive crypt]

Is anyone doing a unique garden plot layout where you don't pick anything else but your focus fruit/veggies? Right now, I'm only harvesting apples and whatever I plant in 6 empty slots in the center (I'm doing cotton atm) so it doesn't affect all the boosts for my apples. I'm not too money focused. I'm kind of lazy and just want to earn money through jamming apples. Any thoughts?

[nova yoke]

Is weed prevention really not that much of a priority?

That's a pretty good layout

[lone horizon]

Agreed

[frail escarp]

Plenty of people like to manually pull weeds themselves for the extra 10g a piece. Since it's just a button click, it's less work to do than manually watering. Also it's not consistent that a plant will get weed w/o the buff so it's valued much less than water retain

[olive crypt]

Removing weeds allows for crops to continue growing according to palia wiki, so yeah. But I read in Reddit that there’s a max limit to growth? I’m not sure. When I started, I kept on collecting weeds to complete the Weed Whacker accomplishment and totally forgot about weed prevention. 😅

[nova yoke]

Oh I thought it just prevented the growth of the plant entirely.

Oh I know water retain is amazing but I meant replacing weed prevention with the harvest boost.

[olive crypt]

I prefer harvest boost vs weed prevention so I can get the most of each harvest. And weed is easy to pick like Aisen said. 😊

[shell fern]

Thank you so much, this is very helpful and twice the amount than the one I planned out myself

[lime ridge]

I played around with the planning tool more seriously for the first time today and am excited to test this out as soon as I get my first apple seed 😄 now onto finding a solution for what I have available now. I have a setup for the middle if there isn't an apple tree as well and I want to rotate the wheat for rice and corn as needed.

[thick whale]

Was just messing with this to finally plan around my one (1) new apple tree seed and came put with something not terribly different

No cotton, but growth boost for apple and blueberries, and potatoes are the only crop that isn’t either all growth boosted or none, so they’re they only one that’ll have a weird staggered harvest (or I’ll wait an extra day and do them all at once, more likely)

Onions take a little longer than carrots iirc so maybe I should switch those places

[lime ridge]

uh i like that - thank you for sharing!

[dusty kayak]

Friendly reminder to check out Adain's new tool and give some feedback :)
https://paliapedia.com/tools/garden

[pine garnet]

How to get apple trees?? I want to grow them but Zeki doesn't sell them with the other seeds...

[dusty kayak]

they are unlocked via getting them with gardening medals that you start earning past level 10, there is a couple other ways to get one however

[pine garnet]

Alright

[dusty kayak]

You can get them from a reward for 2 different character's level 3 friendship quests ||Zeki or Naio|| then you can make more from there via seed makers

you can also obtain an apple from something coincidentally, then you can request apples from someone and make a seed from there

you can also randomly get an apple seed from the zeki gacha

[sour shadow]

can someone tell me why they didn't get a bonus

[dusty kayak]

same crops don't effect each other

[sour shadow]

oh okay thanks

[dusty kayak]

you can test things out here
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app

[nova yoke]

If you really want only water retain, do a checkerboard pattern with potatoes.

Or do something like This.

[charred bone]

Hey y’all i’m a newbie Palian and find things a little bit overwhelming so stuck in finding out the maximal and best layout for my current level 14 to max out gold making. I have blueberries and have yet to unlock apples.

Could anyone send me a screenshot of a layout they’ve use with no apples yet where it has blueberries, tomatoes, potatoes, wheat, etc? Thank you so much!

[sour shadow]

what do you think about this? do you think it's okay

[charred bone]

Hii! Thank you for this! I’ll take this and try out by adding blueberries too.

[sour shadow]

i added apples, but I couldn't add blueberries

[wary finch]

I use this garden layout currently (with my 2nd character at level 12 gardening), you can easily exchange some of the rice for wheat and/or corn and those potatoes with tomatoes, if you like those more. My layout isn't 3x3 and it has a shifted 9th plot, by optical reasons, I like my garden shaped like this https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11111-11111_CROPS-P.QBBRBBSp.QSp.QSp.Q-R.QB.QB.QPB.QB.QSp.QRSp.Q-R.QB.QB.QPB.QB.QSp.QRSp.Q-R.QB.QB.QPB.QB.QSp.QRSp.Q-NNNNNNSp.QPR.Q-Sp.QSp.QSp.QRBBP.QBB-Sp.QPSp.QRB.QB.QP.QB.QB.Q-Sp.QPSp.QRB.QB.QP.QB.QB.Q-Sp.QPSp.QRB.QB.QP.QB.QB.Q-Sp.QB.QB.QRB.QB.QNNN

[wise ruin]

when reaching gardening level 25, is SpeedyGro fertilizer important? if so, what exactly is the benefit. I heard it gives an additional harvest cycle, but chances are that is not true.

That's why I would like to ask everyone here. What exactly does SpeedyGro Fertilizer do and is it beneficial when reaching Gardening level 25? if so, how?

[wise ruin]

would you like some help with adding blueberries to this? i might be able to help if you would like it.

[sour shadow]

that's the most I could do. Apples and blueberries take almost every bonus

[wise ruin]

looks like a good layout. is there any buffs you feel you're missing? or do you like this layout? I think it looks good personally.

[clear kindle]

personally, unless you want to make fabric instead of buying it, get rid of the cotton either a potato or more wheat. by the time you have blueberries and apples, you should be at a spot where you are getting mostly star crops anyways and turning those star crops to star seeds to replant that also probably gives you 100% water retention

[sour shadow]

do I need to do anything for weeds ? does it kill plants or does it just prevent them from growing ? I think I'll use it this way and use fertilizer for weeds

[nova yoke]

Weeds just prevent growth,

Unless there's 9 weeds on one plot then the weeds will actually reverse the growth

[wise garden]

How long do berries grow?

[clear kindle]

9+3+3+3, so 9 days to first harvest then a harvest every 3 days after for a total of 4 harvests

[robust thistle]

if my plants are next to tomato or potatoes, do i need to be on my plot every day for them to be watered? or just online?

[clear kindle]

you don't need to be at the plot

but weeds that spawn may prevent the crop from doing it's buff if left to the next growth cycle

[robust thistle]

weeds stop the buff? i havent noticed that

[clear kindle]

i find that if i've been gone on a fishing run or something, and don't go back for a couple of hours, weeds that spawned on some of my plants needed to be watered

[robust thistle]

wierd

[wise ruin]

I won’t answer that since others answered it.

[olive crypt]

Here is apple focused layout with 100% water retention and 100% weed prevention - all jar.

[dusty kayak]

hmmm since you can get harvest fert rather easily this isn't half bad

[wise garden]

Do plants grow if I am not in the game?

[dusty kayak]

!crops

[compact coral]

Badruu

Why aren't my crops growing?

Crops can only grow up to 1 stage per Palian Day as long as your online. Keep that in mind!

[dusty kayak]

they growth tick once then stop

[charred bone]

What food should i use on my glow worm farm to get harvest boost?

[vernal bluff]

Wormies doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tr5KdvomPxOsA93HC9S7vDdP_bnffWifpwwQPCectdg/htmlview#gid=0

[wary finch]

I made the same experience as @clear kindle, weeds might mess with boost effects of a plant, if you don't remove them - I missed to remove one on a spicy pepper and that pepper didn't quality boost at least that crop adjacent to the weed patch, I don't know, if other crops were effected by it though.

[wise garden]

Can I have it open in the background?

[dusty kayak]

you'll need to interact every 25 to 35 minutes or so

i toggle, jump, toggle away

[wise garden]

Got it

[slow flame]

I use grilled fish

[thick whale]

I love this

[bright blaze]

Seems like it's taking an awful long time to make sure everyone got the garden plots they should have gotten. According to support it's been a known issue for months. Hope the next hot fix they are talking about fixes this....been permanently stuck at 8 plots since launch

[acoustic laurel]

I remember someone saying you have to retill your land every two days is that in game days?

[deft thistle]

Any layouts for a 3x3 (9x9) plot with the spicy peppers and no fruits?

[wary finch]

nah, sometimes when you harvest and it removes that crop from the tile, it might get sandy again and you have to use your hoe, but you have as well another chance to find something on that tile.

[olive crypt]

Here's a pretty similar layout with blueberries I posted earlier but with spicy peppers. 100% water retain with all peppers harvest boost:

[thick whale]

I had one with full water coverage and some of every non-fruit crop but I think only four peppers; lemme see if I saved a screenshot

[thick whale]

I've completed a weekly mining task for rare ore by tilling silver out of my plots

Less coverage of any bonus but water, fewer peppers, but all the pre-blueberry crops

[deft thistle]

tysm!

[limber drum]

So I'm sick and haven't been able to check my garden. I'm worried that crops are going to be gone

[dusty kayak]

Crops do not die nor would the game consequence you for not logging in every day

[north meteor]

How long does it take hot peppers to grow? I need them for a quest dish😭

What garden layout produces the most money? Does anyone know?

[acoustic laurel]

6 days then 3 days for the next 3

[north meteor]

Good lord ok

[warm rampart]

Where to get a bag of Apple Tree Seeds? If I can't pay for such with Gardening coins? I don't have enough. Need for the Little Sprouts quest from Jina for Hekla. I have the other bags of seeds I need, including a bag of blueberry seeds, but not apple tree seeds.

[torpid pumice]

Does anyone have a good layout specifically for harvesting apples 🍎

I just finally got my hands on a seed and planted it, but am not sure if I should just be putting potatoes and cotton and things alongside it to give it hydration, boost, weed protection etc and use harvest boost fertilizer or what

If there is an ideal method, please let me know!!

@warm rampart - you can request a bunch of 3x apples through the requests tab and then use 10x apples in a seed maker to get your hands on a seed to grow your own indefinitely!

[uneven bear]

Can get 1 apple tree seed from Nai'o and Zeki's level 3 friend quest.
Can get 1 blueberry seed from Badruu's level 3 friend quest.

[warm rampart]

I don't see apples shown in Requests.

Unless I am looking under the wrong tab.

[warm rampart]

Thanks. Let me see where I am with their friendship quests. Because I don't have any bags of apple tree seeds from quest in storage.

(Okay, turns out they are ones which are still at level 2, but close to level 3. Lol)

[uneven bear]

To request an item, you must have first had an item. Which is annoying.
You can (extremely rarely) get the seeds from the Lucky Coin gacha thing, but... yeah.
Friendship quests are the usual way, and then farming tokens if all else fails.
Then your first few crops will be stuffing them right back into the seed maker to make more.

I guess it's so you can't just ask for palium bars and flow wood on day one...

[warm rampart]

Yeah, I guess that makes sense. Sighs

[acoustic laurel]

You can request an apple earlier if ||you're level 3 with Delilah and get the apple pie recipe or if you have the honey lure recipe from Auni if you have a high enough bug skill. You can request it when you go to craft them||

[wise ruin]

pretty neat layout, i think.

[rocky spruce]

actually, wait. let me update the cotton one lmao

[frosty ginkgo]

i decided to use 3 plots for trees individual and 6 for farming

[rocky spruce]

my brain doesn't want to brain but I refuse to give up until I got the low-maintenance farm of my dreams! lmao

the only issue being I can't find a way to get all crop types without there being give somewheres

[frosty ginkgo]

yeah thats my problem too

[rocky spruce]

if I could get just three more plots I think I could do some magic but I don't see that happening anytime soon lmao

[frosty ginkgo]

I need like 12 plots

3 for trees and 9 for other stuff

or you know unlimated plots XD

[rocky spruce]

that'd be how many I'd like too, if only more options for patterns lol

(the 12 plots)

[grand vector]

Hello still kinda new new, lol but is there a way to level up my gardening faster so I can unlock more things from the shop?

So far only have 3 plots to grow crops on

[rocky spruce]

I think you mostly get your exp from harvesting crops

[rocky spruce]

12 would be great, so many more pattern options lmao

[frosty ginkgo]

ye

I am doing 3 for trees and the 6 for crops got to figure out my lay for that

im struggling to make a garden area

[rocky spruce]

what's your priority? i'm struggling finding mine so f-it maybe helping you might help me lmao

[frosty ginkgo]

It's more aesthetic design really...

[rocky spruce]

hmmmmm. in that case, give me a couple mins

[rocky spruce]

prefer to water or weed the garden?

[frosty ginkgo]

ohh i meant like fencing and stuff

[rocky spruce]

op lmao

[frosty ginkgo]

ye

[rocky spruce]

oh. I figured out why brain doesn't want to brain. I keep making patterns for a plot that has 3 by 4 crop spots instead of 3 by 3.

[shut hearth]

are medals the only way to get apple seeds? i have 240 and i want apple seeds

[slow flame]

Lvl 3 quest reward naio and lvl 3 Zeki

[shut hearth]

yeah no where near lvl 3 with anyone

well im lvl 3 with jina but thats it

[slow flame]

Or zekis coin machine

The odds are very low tho I think

For instance I opened 700-800 balls and just got 13

[shut hearth]

thats a lotta gacha

[slow flame]

Cooking party’s;)

[wary finch]

guys you don't need all crops in a single build, you can work with crop rotation, because rice/wheat/corn as well as tomato/potato as well as onion/carrot as well as pepper/cotton-patch are basically interchangeable,

[shut hearth]

i need apples cuz i have plenty of other ingrediants

[wary finch]

4 levels more and you will have 280, that is achieveable over this weekend.

[pseudo tendon]

theres a trick to getting apples. if you can make a honey lure, then go to the workbench and click the + icon on the apples and it will add a request of apples even if you dont have apples

then just wait and hopefully someone fullfills your request

youll need 10 apples to make a seed so youll need 4 total requests

[shut hearth]

dont have honey lure recipe yet but thanks

[pseudo tendon]

awww then you need to grind lol

[shut hearth]

but i dont wunna do bug catching

https://tenor.com/view/lucy-weird-cry-dramatic-wah-gif-15506705

[pseudo tendon]

lvl 3 niao, lvl 3 zeki, zeki coins or honeylure recipe..... pick your poison

[shut hearth]

40 more medals lol

[supple scroll]

how does speedygro fertilizer actually work? do i have to apply them everyday?

[slow flame]

Does someone have a layout with water retain and weed prevention which focuses manly on cotton ?

[clear spoke]

what is the best plan to get more gold ?

[dark ember]

Guys what's the fastest way to get an apple seed or apple

[gray veldt]

Friend quest from zeki or request one if you e had it in your inventory before

[olive crypt]

I found this layout online (not my own work) but placed it on the planner for easier view, hope this works for you! https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CPTORCoPCoR-CCoPORTPCoC-COPRCoTCoRC-TCOCoRCoCPT-TCORCoRCTP-PTOCoRCoCOP-ORCoPCoRTCO-OCoTPRCTCoO-RCoTCoRCPTO

[ionic compass]

yes, or apply multiple and it will consume 1 per day

[ionic compass]

you can also use this to generate layouts, still WIP tho
https://paliapedia.com/tools/garden

[supple scroll]

or if you have access to honey lure recipe, you can request for apples from the crafting table too

[slow flame]

Yeah but I can seem to work it out to a 100%

[ionic compass]

change seeds, fertilizers and priorities and click click

I got this so far
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.WT.WP.WT.WCo.WP.WCo.WP.WT.W-P.WCo.WT.WT.WT.WP.WCo.WCo.WT.W-T.WP.WT.WT.WT.WP.WT.WP.WT.W-Co.WP.WP.WT.WT.WT.WP.WT.WCo.W-P.WT.WP.WT.WCo.WP.WP.WT.WT.W-Co.WCo.WP.WCo.WT.WCo.WT.WP.WCo.W-Co.WCo.WT.WT.WT.WP.WP.WT.WT.W-Co.WCo.WCo.WP.WP.WT.WT.WCo.WP.W-P.WCo.WP.WCo.WP.WT.WT.WT.WCo.W
not as good as what danjisan shared tho

[ionic compass]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-Co.WT.WCo.WCo.WP.WCo.WCo.WT.WCo.W-P.WCo.WT.WT.WCo.WP.WP.WCo.WT.W-Co.WP.WCo.WCo.WT.WCo.WCo.WP.WCo.W-Co.WP.WCo.WCo.WT.WCo.WCo.WP.WCo.W-T.WCo.WP.WP.WCo.WT.WT.WCo.WP.W-Co.WT.WCo.WCo.WP.WCo.WCo.WT.WCo.W-Co.WT.WCo.WCo.WP.WCo.WCo.WT.WCo.W-P.WCo.WT.WT.WCo.WP.WP.WCo.WT.W-Co.WP.WCo.WCo.WT.WCo.WCo.WP.WCo.W
or this with weedblock fertilizers, more cotton, if you don't mind less profit

[slow flame]

Yeah it’s all about the Cotton thanks

Quick question, do I need to put fertilizer on it everyday or just every 10

[rocky spruce]

hmm. I need advice here, I'm designing a garden for after I get the other crops unlocked and need some help. my hope is to try to get harvest boost, water retain and weed prevention up as much as I can while diversifying the crops where possible. help? lol https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-RTROBBTBB-TOTA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-RTRBBOBBT-PRONNNNNN-A.HA.HA.HNTNNNN-ORPNNNNNN-NNNNNNNNN-NNNNNNNNN-NNNNNNNNN

[dusty kayak]

fert is absorbed every growth tick, and needs to be used every growth tick for most of it's effect

sorry if that wasnt the info you were looking for

[slow flame]

So every rl hour

[sick glacier]

I need to get fruit or something for my worms, i have no clue what to do with my produce. I sell some potatoes and cotton for gold and use potatoes and tomatoes for my worm farm but i dont get a lot from my worms

I was thinking about saving my seeds so I could do a layout like ive been seeing and try to max profit from it but really what lvl do i need to be able to maximize how much gold I make from everything? I cant jar stuff and I dont have fruit yet either

[olive crypt]

This is 100% water retain and 100% weed prevention with using all crops. If you use harvest boost fertilizer, you can achieve 100% harvest boost. Hope this helps! (https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CPTOBBPBB-CRPOWTPRC-COPWRTCoWO-TCOCoCrCoCPT-TCOCrCoCrCTP-PTCCCrOOTP-OSpSpPSpSpTCO-OWTPRCTPO-AAAAAAAAA)

[olive crypt]

For your reference on worms that was posted earlier: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tr5KdvomPxOsA93HC9S7vDdP_bnffWifpwwQPCectdg/htmlview#gid=0

[sick glacier]

@olive crypt should I worry about seed layouts when Im low lvl? Im gardening lvl 6 and trying to figure out profits. Thanks for the worm guide.

[livid hollow]

Hey all! Doing the current math for star tomatoes, it is more profitable to preserve the tomatoes instead of using 3 for seeds, correct? Long night lol I'm trying to make sure I'm not crazy

[olive crypt]

I would! And you can always change them around depending on your needs.

[dusty kayak]

id say you are correct but someone could argue for gold per hour math i just ignore gold per hour

[haughty geyser]

How do you get the most of your garden produce? normal and star, use for food/fabric? sell direct? make seed to sell/plant? sell jam? im not thinking what to plant (still figuring out what patteren work with my brain, just how to get the best out of my produce.

[dusty kayak]

dont turn starred cotton to fabric unless its unavoidable

cause you cant make starred fabric

[river coral]

Hey everyone! What is the best kind of seeds/fruit or veg to sell for max profit?

[dusty kayak]

that can vary based on set up but i'd say tomatoes early on are the easiest to work with and harvest more then once and drop more crops / come off in bunches

[haughty geyser]

ah so what to do with star cotton? sell or sell seed or some thing ells?
What about other produce what best to do?

[dusty kayak]

starred cotton is GREAT money

you can use the profit calculator on paliatracker to compare outcomes of crops

[ornate vessel]

Accidentally became an onion farmer

Put like 100 onions into the seed maker and didn't realize and now I need to get through all the seeds

Giving the entire continent a run for its oniony money

[haughty geyser]

hmm it seem to not show all base product prizes...

[dusty kayak]

doesnt it?

[haughty geyser]

it didnt for me... for soem reason it had picked only things you make so search for carrot gave me ony pickle carrot

[livid hollow]

Thanks so much that makes sense I think that's why I was doubting myself I knew there was some other factor I read about before 😅

[dusty kayak]

drop down

[haughty geyser]

my site dont even look like yours.. might gotten a wrong during google

[dusty kayak]

drop down button

https://www.paliatracker.com/gold-profit

[haughty geyser]

so do I have this right as a base rule of thumb:
eat normal veggies (use for cooking)
make fabric of normal cotton
Make seeds to use and sell of star cotton
make seeds of star fruit and veggie to use.
Make perserves of star veggie and fruit to sell
And plop normal in wormfarms as need be (dont put star in them)

[warm rampart]

For once, I think this is a pretty decent organization for my garden this batch of crops.

Normally I am not so good at organizing my crops. 😅

[random nymph]

we cant make the hydro fertilizer?

[dusty kayak]

nope

[rocky spruce]

Thank you! Was racking my head trying to find something lmao

[haughty geyser]

but i get 3 or 4 seeds

[median patrol]

Oh my god. yeah you do. Scrap everything I said Dx

[haughty geyser]

its ok... Im just tryign to make my self a basic memory for each thing.. I think star potato might also be best as seed if wanting money... but yea no reason to turn star cotton to fabric agree... my fabric weaw make lether for money

I dont want to hazzle with perfect money farm just a few easy rules of thumb that my brain can handle with out stress and note paper... same for a set up of the farm land...

[median patrol]

Yeah I like to make leather aswell. I'm not very good with numbers so I should obviously try to improve on it too

[haughty geyser]

I WAS good with numbers... then I got sick, thats why I asked for help... readign the web site is not easy for me... so I ask for simply fied ansvers.

[median patrol]

There's lots of ppl in here who are happy to help I am sure so it doesn't hurt to ask ^^

[fierce granite]

quick one is making star veg and fruit into seeds worth it or just selling the star ingredient and use normal to make seed and grow

[haughty geyser]

I hope some one come and respong to my list if thats a good one... and not send me to use website I tried... my head started spinning

[median patrol]

I hope so too

[haughty geyser]

so I wait for maybe some one in US to get home and help me...

[haughty geyser]

basiclly what im wondering... whats best?
I think for star cotten seed is... but I think perserve might be best for rest? not sure, potato might be better as seed? I Dont really know

[dapper lake]

I don't think it's a bad list! I think you can put star things in worm farms and it will increase their value still, though. So you can put star or normal in worm farms!

[charred bone]

Heyoo Fellow Palians!

Does anyone of any resources/spreadsheets of crops detailing their prices as seeds, star quality and preserved jars/pickles?

[median patrol]

I was told that making preserves or seeds out of most star fruits/veggies is the most profitable in general, but I don't know if it's 100% correct for every single thing. I guess it's easy to calculate what gives you the most profit, if someone's good with math...

[haughty geyser]

Ah thanks, then I just put what I have a lot of in the farm I need worms/fertilizer from... I can handle this with my memory.

[dusty kayak]

https://www.paliatracker.com/gold-profit

[dreamy pilot]

Any ideas for the most efficient farm involving blueberries and tomatoes? Idk what other things to add to make it the most profitable

[river coral]

There’s a website I’ve been using to help: https://www.thegamer.com/palia-best-farm-layouts/#9x9-no-water-pre-apple-layout

[dreamy pilot]

I'll check it out, thanks!

[ionic compass]

have you tried my new tool? ||https://paliapedia.com/tools/garden||

[dreamy pilot]

I tried a similar one. I need ideas, though.

[olive crypt]

How about something like this? 100% water retention with all blueberries/tomatoes receiving harvest boost (https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-BBRBBTWTP-BBRBBTWTP-BBRBBTWTP-RBBTBBPTW-RBBTBBPTW-RBBTBBPTW-BBRBBTWTP-BBRBBTWTP-BBRBBTWTP):

[wary finch]

Annette, I guess, what you are looking for is this, it has been posted a few days ago https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1160984775025250364/1197596898568192191/Palia029.png?ex=65bbd806&is=65a96306&hm=68fef77aa2bada5cac77084b76654fd5c87907f4148bc8657128913b9bcb0be6&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1294&height=600

[ionic compass]

or this https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-R.HB.HB.HT.HpB.HB.HR.HB.HB.H-T.HpCr.HT.HpR.HT.HpRT.HpCr.HCr-R.HR.HR.HpR.HT.HpCrT.HpCrT.Hp-T.HpB.HB.HRRCrCrT.HpCr-Cr.HT.HpT.HpT.HpR.HB.HRT.HpB.H-T.HpRR.HB.HT.HpRB.HT.HpCr-RCrCr.HpT.HpCrR.HpRCr.HpR.Hp-Cr.HpCr.HCrRT.HpRR.HpCrT.Hp-T.HpRR.HpCrCrCr.HpRT.HpCr.H

[left portal]

Can anyone explain the 'shine sound' effect in the garden. I thought it was when my crops were ready to harvest, but maybe it is actually the fertilizer?

[acoustic laurel]

The shine sound should be when your crops are ready but sometimes it's buggy and makes the noise even when there are no crops to harvest. Reloading the area should fix it

[left portal]

Thanks.

I screen captured the event if anyone is interested. I thought I was crazy for a minute

[random nymph]

okay i have 6 plots, also only level 5 so whats my best money makers?

[clear kindle]

i liked tomatoes and potatoes in alternating roles. seed star qualities and put normal in preserve jars, or everything in seeders if you don't have preserve jars at this time

[dusty kayak]

6 plots you say

[clear spoke]

umm so what is the best way to make gold from gardening ?

[dusty kayak]

there isn't really a BEST way, but several ways you could optimally go about it based on your preference

[pseudo tendon]

Depends if your playing longer or can water your garden every hour

[dusty kayak]

id say at the start prioritizing starred seeds by using cotton, selling the regular output, and saving the starred output for when you unlock the seed maker so you can make starred seeds ASAP is one of many strategies you could do 🤔

[ionic compass]

Sen, before I go to sleep

I can start an endless simulation for a layout, any preference?

@dusty kayak

[dusty kayak]

oh my LORD

uhhhh

[ionic compass]

this?

[dusty kayak]

do max profit with max water retain XD

[ionic compass]

kk 🙂

gnite, lets see what will be discovered xD

[green zinc]

Hey all! Could I get some feedback on this layout? Current gardening level is 15, trying to up the blueberries and apples for parties

[tender coral]

How do I reset/break a current growing spot ? To replant something else?

[slow flame]

Use your hoe and hit X if on switch I forget what the control is for PC

[potent spire]

right click on pc

[wheat terrace]

Saw someone mentioning looking for cotton above and got distracted. No water retain or weed prevent, but if you simply need as much cotton as you can get in as short a time as possible...this might be the best? 5 ingame days and the fields are clear to go back to what you usually plant. Probably just toss on a ton of water retain fertilizer and take your chances with weeds.

[slow flame]

I made one myself since I wanted it to be afk:D

[thick whale]

I did something almost identical when I first got really into gardening, yeah

Mine had one row at the edge either without weed prevention or without water but a slight modification gives this

[wheat terrace]

Well, if you want AFK cotton, might I suggest this one? Think it will give you a bit more cotton and a bit of rotational symmetry to help keep track.

[slow flame]

Yep it’s almost the same xd

[slow flame]

It’s actually the exact same number

[thick whale]

Live for rotational symmetry when I can manage it

[thick whale]

Same number of seeds, but some of them are harvest-boosted so you get a better cotton output

[slow flame]

Theoretically yeah I think so but wouldn’t that mean that they grow in different pace

[wheat terrace]

Should make...26 more cottona run then yours I think?

[thick whale]

Mine has 3 more cotton plants than yours, and gets a 28 vs this 66 starred cotton, and 42 vs this 40 unstarred (so a little less there, but a significant quantity total more and mostly starred instead of mostly not)

[wheat terrace]

Not boosted speed just yield

[thick whale]

Yeah, multiple crops will always mean they grow a bit differently but each crop will grow all at the same rate

[wheat terrace]

That was why I liked taht cotton corn one I linked, all one harvest same day...just have to water and weed though...

[slow flame]

I just need a lot of fabric so ig I could do that

[slow flame]

Ye but I won’t be able to water and weed every hour.. or atleast I don’t wanna

[thick whale]

Yeah if you only feed unstarred to your fabric machine this should still give you slightly more fabric

You don't have to harvest a crop that's finished growing
as I understand it, if you just leave everything else in place and only harvest the cotton every few days, it'll get the full benefits every time and your other crops will just stay ripe

[wheat terrace]

Crazy difference if you are willing to weed and water though...the no maintenance one makes only about a third of the cotton in the same amount of time...

[thick whale]

I live for not watering, but have been slacking on my weed-prevention design

[wheat terrace]

yeah, weeds seem to be used for things so I let them slide more too.

[thick whale]

Missing a weed, tho, and getting one (1) potato out of sync with the rest of the garden? maddening. a cruel universe

[wheat terrace]

As long as I keep full water prevention though I don't have to upgrade my tools for it, a single session of watering is fine with the most basic can.

[pseudo tendon]

Can I not destroy a crop?

The hoe isn't working

[wheat terrace]

Right click with the hoe?

[pseudo tendon]

Ohh tyty

[mystic trail]

There are definitely better ones, where u done have to water any of the crops every in game day!

[gray veldt]

You know what this game is missing that would be cool. Farm animals like cows and chickens. We could then get our own milk, butter, eggs and such. Allow us to grind wheat into flour . So we don’t have to buy as many ingredients to cook.

[cinder wraith]

hey guys, at what level do we get access to fruit seeds? i can’t rq fruits so i probably haven’t reached it yet

[green zinc]

Anything you’d recommend? I didn’t see any pinned ones in here

[nova yoke]

You get them at I think lvl 2 Zeki friendship and lvl3 Nai'o friendship quest. For the apples,

Idk about blueberries.
Although it's just past lvl10 farming

[wary finch]

In my mind it is unwise to go for a low maintenance garden with long lasting crops at start. You gain experience from harvesting, so any garden which delays a harvest or where crop takes a longer time to grow first, will lead to slower experience gain. This isn't a problem with higher skills, because you have more valuable crop in large amounts in your garden, which provides enough experience, but as a new gardener, it is better to stick with simple quickly growing crops, where you can harvest something every day.

[gray veldt]

I second this. Rice is a good one and can make decent money at the start converting to seeds and selling. I started with rice and tomatoes

[dusty kayak]

||its in the game files that we'll have ormuus and pekis as cows and chickens, not a lot of details about it though||

[ionic compass]

@dusty kayak
Corn Cotton Potato Rice Tomato Wheat
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-TCrPPTTPTR-TWPCrCrTWCoT-WPCoRTWWCoCo-WPCoPPTTRT-TPPRCrRRWT-CoPTCrTWCoPCo-TPPWCrWRTP-CrCoTWTPPPR-CrTRRPTPTW
Corn Potato Rice Tomato Wheat
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-RWPPCrCrTPW-RPTCrTPRRW-WCrRPPTCrRT-WCrTTCrPPRCr-PTRRCrCrCrTP-WTPTTRPPP-RCrCrTPPCrWT-RTTTPRPWR-CrRWWTRTPCr

couldn't hit 100% water retention yet

[dusty kayak]

slap some fert i guess LMAO

facinating though

[ionic compass]

I'll find the perfect one

there is still some room to go

[dusty kayak]

then itll be my like high recomendation if it has highest potential profit and full water retain LOL

[ionic compass]

give it couple of days

I'll run it with different seed combinations

with potato and tomato fixed

[dusty kayak]

im also curious about highest potential profit that includes apples and weed block some time

[ionic compass]

can run that as well after this

[dusty kayak]

super facinating to me

[ionic compass]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-WOAWCAOWA-AAWAAWAAC-AAAAAAAAA-CWWAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAA-WCOCWOOWW-AAACOWWCW-WOCWCOCWC-OWWCWCWWO
just a quick version of it

[dusty kayak]

dang only 4 trees

[ionic compass]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CWAWWACOA-AAWAAOAAW-AAAAAAAAA-OAAWAACAA-AOWAWWAWC-OCWAAAAAA-OWCWWWOCO-AAAAAAAAA-AAAWOCWCW

better one

[dusty kayak]

NOW we're talking

[ionic compass]

just spam clicking the generate xD

[dusty kayak]

LOL

[ionic compass]

even better with rice
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-RCCOORCCO-AAAAAAAAA-RCRRROOCR-ROROOCCRO-AAAAAAAAA-ROCRCRCRO-RAARAACAA-AOAACAARA-AACAARAAC

[random nymph]

with potatoes and tomatoes, their water retention on crops around them, is that the 8 surrounding squares?

[thick whale]

Oh no help I got too good and consistent at my high-yield farming and an running out of unstarred produce to cool with
(Not actually a request for help but imo a very funny problem to have)

[lilac wind]

omg me too. I'm having to keep my starred spices and veg in a lockbox

I mean, just to able to use starred wheat or rice or whatever

I was hoping Harvest fertilizer would return more non starred items but so far not so much

[dapper marsh]

ok kinda clueless when it comes to gardening... what is the best 9x9 layout for funny money profit?

[dusty kayak]

there is no BEST way, but it depends on your personal ideal

[dapper marsh]

what about for making the most money when selling crops?

[dusty kayak]

id compare with the paliatracker gold profit page
https://www.paliatracker.com/gold-profit

click drop down for info

[dapper marsh]

cool tysm

[mystic trail]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-O.QC.QT.QT.QW.QA.WP.HRA.W-P.QT.QP.HA.WA.WSp.WA.WA.WSp.W-T.HC.QO.QSp.WW.HT.QSp.WR.HP.H-Co.QCr.HA.WO.HT.QB.WC.QP.QB.W-A.WA.WB.WB.WCo.HpB.WB.WA.WA.W-B.WT.HCo.QB.WP.QO.HA.WW.QC.Q-T.QW.HSp.WP.QCr.HSp.WO.QC.QT.H-Sp.WA.WA.WSp.WA.WA.WP.HT.QP.Q-A.WR.QT.QA.WCr.QP.QT.QC.QO.Q

[mystic trail]

I had more but can’t find them anymore

[dusty kayak]

I like my partner's pinwheel XD you just water the middle with exquisite can and it waters the blueberries all at once so it's not so bad

and no fert which saves resources or money

its a fun design at least XD

[green zinc]

Am I missing something on this first one? Only 2 apple trees and 2 blueberry bushes? Most designs I've seen have 4 of each

[gray veldt]

This is what I’ve been using now. I also have 10 preserve bins and 6 seeders. Makes me enough money to maintain and feeds my worm farms as well as me. I have t fished in awhile so I’m also getting like $10k from that when I clear them out.

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11111-11110_CROPS-B.HB.HB.HB.HB.HB.HAAA-B.HB.HB.HB.HB.HB.HAAA-B.HB.HB.HB.HB.HB.HAAA-B.HB.HB.HB.HB.HB.HAAA-B.SB.SPB.SB.SW.HPW.HP.S-AAAAAACrRW-AAAAAACrRW-AAAAAACrRW-AAAAAACrRW

[nova yoke]

Oh, pickled corn seems to do pretty well.

[ionic compass]

running the sim on the server now 24/7 😛

[mystic trail]

Like I already mentioned I’ve seen other layout but can’t find them. Please just scroll up here in the channel. You will find 100% water retained layouts with enough blueberries and apples. All I was trying to tell you you, that the layout you posted is not good at all.

[slow flame]

I have a question so if I make a Water retain and weed prevention layout and let the buff crops stay do they still need the water retain or weed prevention?

[dusty kayak]

so far from what ive tested if it works properly the effects of the crop buffs stay, but it can be a slower not as profitable output if you aren't consistantly replanting for more crops yknow
but thats up to you

[olive crypt]

I made this one a while back, if you're interested!

[dusty kayak]

This deaign is beautifull

I stan pin wheels

[olive crypt]

Also if you use harvest boost fert:

[slow flame]

Wait

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-TCoTCoOCoTCoCo-TCoTCoOCoOCoT-NCoTCoOCoTCoT-TCoTCoOCoTCoT-CoCoONTCoCoCoO-CoNCoCoOOTCoCo-TCoCoCoOCoTCoT-OCoTCoOCoTCoT-CoCoTOOCoCoCoT

@dusty kayak so I could just let the buff crops stay

[random pivot]

Sorry for silly question- I trust you guys more than Google, though I'm supposed to plant 5 wild trees on my plot for a quest conpletion; but I didn't get any info on how to plant them, can't find seeds etc. Thanks for any advice, I appreciate it -also, I play between switch and PC based on where I am/what I have going that day.

[clear kindle]

seeds come from chopping down medium and large trees in either kilima or bahari. there is a low chance for them to be picked up as loot. when you do find them, go back to your plot and go to them in the hot bar and select plant and you can plant them from there

[tardy talon]

if you have ever had a tree seed before, you can request them as well~

[random pivot]

Thank you so much! Will the standard axe work for cutting the med trees down? Or do I need to have a fine axe? Sorry, I recently started playing

[clear kindle]

standard will cut down medium trees, the fine axe will cut both the medium and large

[jovial sleet]

Also, kenyatta might give you some of the seeds. I was only lvl 1 friendship when she gave me 4. Idk if that's /supposed/ to happen, maybe I was just lucky

[wheat terrace]

Well, if your only goal is fast and frequent harvest, behold the 3 day wonder! Still have to water and weed but it is probably the fastest you can go without fertilizer. https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-RCCCCCCRC-CCRRCCCCC-CCCCCRRCC-CCCCCRRCC-CRCCCCCCR-CCCCRCCCC-CCCCRCCCC-RCCCCCCRC-CCRRCCCCC

Actually...I don't think you can go faster with fertilizer. 81 spaces using a piece of SpeedyGro each real life hour when the only reliable source is from fruits which you wouldn't be growing when using this layout... So unless you built up a stockpile to fund it, think this is the fastest turn around crop you can make...

[olive crypt]

A layout with focus on blueberries and spicy peppers, 100% water retain and descent harvest boost:

[wary finch]

currently my staple food (pickled corn) and any excess beyond 30, I'm selling.

[green zinc]

Hopefully I can get some clarity on how the harvestboost fertilizer mechanics work.

If I'm understanding the wiki correctly, when you harvest a plant it is a binary result of yes extra yield or no extra yield. And the % roll on if you get extra yield is (number of days you applied harvest boost) / (total number of growth days).

So if I'm growing an apple tree, I'd need to apply harvestboost fertilizer every single day of the 12 initial days (x9 fertilizer = 108 total) for the first harvest to be a 100% chance of extra yield.

Am I understanding correctly?

[wary finch]

for a proper result use the seeding/fermentation features of the app and calculate over a span of 180 or 360 days My garden turns out to yield 4100gold/day, if I factor in fermentation and seed creation - that's over 1.5 million gold in an in-game year.

I think so, Cifee, not sure about the other 3 harvest cycles though.

[green zinc]

I would assume the % resets after each harvest.. but I'm not 100% sure

So the 2nd harvest 6 days later would need 6 total applications and would be out of 6 for the %

[green zinc]

Unlocking my first set of Apple seeds right now. Planning on using this soon! Thanks for sharing 🙂

[wary finch]

I'm just doing 9 blueberry bushes and 5 spicy peppers supported by just rice and cotton. I need 4 upgrade quality fertilizers per day and have to pull around 6 weeds. need to water nearly everything (exquisite can). Berries and peppers get jarred, cotton and rice seeded. Yields 4100 gold per day in average.

well, actually I do both with berries and peppers (seed and jar), but the app doesn't let me choose both.

My garden is manageable, if I'm not binge playing, otherwise I would have to buy a lot more preserve jars and seeders, which I want to avoid.

currently I run 5 seeders, 8 jars and 2 worm farms.

[wary finch]

my approach was at start mainly carrots, onions, rice and wheat, until I got spicy peppers, then I ran 14 peppers, and when I got access to blueberries, I replaced 9 of the pepper bushes with blueberries and am currently running just cotton and rice in between.

with emphasis on "currently", I sometimes switch out some of the cotton for potatoes and some of the rice for wheat and corn for cooking and as staple food (pickled corn). Pickled potatoes had performed very well in my worm farms, sold lots of fertilizer and worms and had enough fertilizer, when I was still using a lot.

[haughty geyser]

If you using star seeds is there then any need for quality up fertelizer?
Or schould I use an other?

[fresh swallow]

No need. Should use another

[haughty geyser]

Thanks what would be best if going full water restrsinbset up + star seed?

[fresh swallow]

It depends on what you’re going for. Do you want a variety of crops? Would you like max profits? Looking for quick cotton? Or nothing in particular and a simple low maintenance garden?

[nova yoke]

This is the one I'm rocking, it could be more efficient like the one made by Kwatsu, but it leaves spots for other crops to be grown in the center.

Btw, is it better to seed or jar carrots and onions? I used to get a lot of them since I used to idolize weed protection, but didn't know how to maximize my profit on them.

[olive crypt]

Oooh what a coincidence, I made the same one exactly a while back. I just hoarded cotton in the middle 6 slots and instead of corn, I used rice.

[nova yoke]

Yeah I exchanged the corn for rice since it's used in more recipes.

[olive crypt]

I'm lazy and I only harvest apples. So I can just keep the boosts.

[nova yoke]

I need to get more spicy peppers and blue berries but I can't find myself ditching this style.

I may end up adopting this layout at some point, exchanging some of the blueberries for spicy peppers.

[olive crypt]

I was about to just post that one 😂 . You can replace the 4 blueberries with 4 spicy peppers instead.

[nova yoke]

It's 8 blueberries?

Also wish you can always do a mix of both.

[olive crypt]

So you can have 4 blueberries and 4 peppers

[nova yoke]

Ye.

[formal blade]

What layout is the best to make money if i don't have apple and berry's?

[olive crypt]

#5 from https://www.thegamer.com/palia-best-farm-layouts/#9x9-early-game-layout seemed good to me:

But I'm sure there's better ones

[formal blade]

I use #3 from this side but i want upgrade

Thx for help

[olive crypt]

Do you have access to spicy peppers?

[formal blade]

i dont think so, because i have 6lv on gardening

[olive crypt]

I think you can just purchase them at Zeki's at that point but I don't remember. But here's another layout to consider with pepper focused:

[formal blade]

Thanks you so much

[formal blade]

I check and i can buy pepers on 6 lv and i have 6lv

Yaaaaay

Btw what is that webside to make layouts?

[olive crypt]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/

[haughty geyser]

Varitsty and easy… not as much easy Quick no care as not to complicated mix match patterens

[olive crypt]

I made this one the other day, it’s kind of complex but easy to take care of and has a little bit of everything.

[uneven plume]

Does cotton always get water retention when planted near tomatoes?

[nova yoke]

Yeah.
Anything that borders the tomato gets water retain.
Except you'll need to put a potato next to the tomato if you want the tomato to get water retain.

This pattern always works if you're out scouting a lot, since it's pretty much an automated farm.

May not be as much gold, but you'll never have to bother with the weeds and keeping it watered.

[uneven plume]

I see

Thanks a lot

[nova yoke]

Oh also turn the tomatoes and potatoes into seeds before selling.

[uneven plume]

Is it more profitable?

I haven't done the math

[nova yoke]

Mhm,
I think potatoes sell for like 60, and the seeds sell for 30 each.
However you get 4 seeds per one potato so it's like a 60 dollar profit each time.

Then for tomatoes, it would be better to jar them but you still get like a 20 or 30 gold profit.

Every little bit helps.

Sorry autocorrect

[uneven plume]

I'm pretty new, i need gardening lvl 8 for preservation jar... Currently sitting on lvl 5 gardening

But yeah, i heard that before

[uneven plume]

Also what app/website is this? Where you can create your layout

[nova yoke]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-NNNNNNNNN-NNNNNNNNN-NNNNNNNNN-NNNNNNNNN-NNNNNNNNN-NNNNNNNNN-NNNNNNNNN-NNNNNNNNN-NNNNNNNNN

There you go,

[uneven plume]

Thank you

[wary finch]

Most post-processing is adding roughly 50% value, as a rule of thumb.

[hot aspen]

what fert would u guys recommend using?

[vernal bluff]

I always harvest boost my apples+bushes and then use speedy gro on them, I like how it works together :>

[nova yoke]

I usually just use the harvest boost since you get it the most common by glow worm farms, or just use a bunch of weed protection fertilizer from Zeki if I don't feel like checking for that constantly

[haughty geyser]

Looks Nice but I Think I would constantly have to look at it… brain is often foggy need this work even when brain is not Well.

[olive crypt]

Yeah, I didn’t like replanting way too much either complex layout either. Once you get apples, blueberries and peppers, it’ll look more simple. 🙂

[haughty geyser]

I have its still very complex for my memory

[olive crypt]

@haughty geyser how about this? I used to just pick the apples so I don’t replant other veggies. And turn apples into jams. Layout is pretty simple with 5 different plants too.

[haughty geyser]

Think foto Got lost.
Really happy for your help… i do have an idea now… so letting land clear then trying it out

[olive crypt]

#🌱│gardening message

[dusty kayak]

im doing that with this, but because 9 weeds are on one plot it bugs out, i have 8 weeds on one plot and let one grow elsewhere and pick it just to prevent the bug XD
but yeah i dont pick the rice and just pick the apples

[clear kindle]

so you don't get the bug if there's eight in one plot and you pick the ninth on?

before the next growth tick

[olive crypt]

Oooooo I like it.

[green zinc]

Do I only need to add HarvestBoost fertilizer right as I pick the plant? Or do I need to reapply every day

Or only the day right before it becomes harvestable 🤔

[ionic compass]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-Cr.WP.WCr.WR.WT.WR.WCr.WP.WCr.W-Cr.WP.WCr.WR.WT.WR.WCr.WP.WCr.W-Cr.WP.WCr.WR.WT.WR.WCr.WP.WCr.W-Cr.WP.WCr.WR.WT.WR.WCr.WP.WCr.W-Cr.WP.WCr.WR.WT.WR.WCr.WP.WCr.W-Cr.WP.WCr.WR.WT.WR.WCr.WP.WCr.W-Cr.WP.WCr.WR.WT.WR.WCr.WP.WCr.W-Cr.WP.WCr.WR.WT.WR.WCr.WP.WCr.W-Cr.WP.WCr.WR.WT.WR.WCr.WP.WCr.W

For lazy farmers. You can use any two of rice, wheat and corn and you can also swap places of tomatoes and potatoes.

[dusty kayak]

so i have it so the 9th one can't grow on the same plot the other 8 are on

at least it hasnt so far XD

idk if its cause all the crops are fully grown or because its fully grown and holding weedblock fert im not sure but 9th is never growing on the other plot and its been a lot of growth cycles

[olive crypt]

Question on weeds. It only affects the plant where the weed is growing on, right? Not surrounding plants?

[nova yoke]

Yes only the plant it is on.

Unless they're on all 9 pieces of a piece of land, then it'll revert the growth of them also.

[uneven plume]

Does a quality vegetable guarantee quality seeds?

[dusty kayak]

yes but qualty seeds do not guarentee a quality crop until after level 25

[uneven plume]

Player lvl?

[olive crypt]

One more question on weeds: there’s only 9 of them a time or can there be more?

[dusty kayak]

gardening

[uneven plume]

I see

[nova yoke]

There can only be 9 max in a garden.

[dusty kayak]

as you level gardening your chances for quality improves and maxes out for quality seeds at 25 and regular seeds at 50

[olive crypt]

So let's say I have this layout and I let the non-apple veggies fully grow out and let them have 9 weeds on random spot that's not on apples, will I get water retain, weed prevention, and harvest boost on these apples? lmk if I'm on right track.. 😅

[dusty kayak]

well the boosts are still active with the weeds on so maybe that isn't so bad 🤔

[olive crypt]

Hmmmm! I might test it out. I'm also just picking apples too.

[dusty kayak]

just weed block fert the trees until all weeds have spawned i suppose is the quickest way

[olive crypt]

Thanks for the all the ideas and infos too! @dusty kayak @nova yoke

[nova yoke]

All good,

[olive crypt]

I guess if it works… I could use speedy gro on the apples… which I have none atm 😂

[green zinc]

Bumping this question. Just don't wanna waste a bunch 🙂

[dusty kayak]

fert is used at 6 am palia time every growth tick and needs fert every growth stage for most of it's effect

you can stack it so it just gets absorbed every growth stage, can stack up to 99

[green zinc]

Omg I did not know this! So I could plant an apple tree and hit it with 270 fertilizer (9 fertilizer x 30 days) and it would be set until it's gone?

[dusty kayak]

correct

[green zinc]

SpeedyGro says "For every 2 days of growth, grants an additional bonus day". So if I wanted to stack SpeedyGro on a freshly planted Apple Tree so that it would run out when the tree first has apples, that would be 4 layers of SpeedyGro? (2+1, 2+1, 2+1, 2+1)?

[dusty kayak]

speedygrow confuses me too much XD

[green zinc]

Yeah idk. I just planted fresh apple trees and put 1 layer of speedygro on each one. When 6AM hit they all disappeared.. but it's only been 1 day, not 2? I don't follow

[sick glacier]

Without using any external sources, how do you know what to plant next to each other?

[tacit stratus]

The description on the seeds indicate what effects they have on their neighbours.

[sick glacier]

Oh and how do I get fruit? Im gardening lvl 6 and have only seen the seeds using gardening token things but i dont have any of those

[tacit stratus]

I believe you can buy them from the general store. After that you can use the seed harvester thing to make more seeds. I think there is a quest that gives you your first few apple seeds. Not sure about blueberry.

[nova yoke]

You start getting them randomly after lvl10, doing certain side quests.

However you can get apple seeds early from Zeki lvl 2 friendship quest and Naio's lvl 3 i think.

I think you can get blueberries early too? However I'd have to look at who would give those.

Nvm I'm wrong. It's both of their lvl3 quests.

[acoustic laurel]

Yep! You can get them from ||badruu's level 3 friendship||

You can also request them early if ||you have a recipe like pie, cake, or honey lures that requires them||

[fast echo]

you should do potato-tomato-potato on the potatoes rows, that way you will have to water only the wheat.

[olive crypt]

It’s true. But I might just keep it potatoes just in case I want to change my plot again. It’ll be easier with potatoes and I’m not picking them anyways - just apples.

[strange zinc]

I did a layout that I thought would prevent be from having to water the plants as often because I work full time but it’s been less than 3 hours and they’re already needing water. Looking for some feedback.

[fresh swallow]

does anyone know if this is correct? apparently growth boosted tomatoes would be ready for harvest 2 days in a row? days 3 and 4 according to this.

[acoustic laurel]

That's incorrect. Tomatoes take 4 days for the first harvest then 2 days for the next 3 oh wait boosted idk

[lofty pivot]

where is this garden planner?

[fresh swallow]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/

[lofty pivot]

thank you!

[green zinc]

I realized after starting this - No blueberries means no faster growth for the apple trees

The 100% water retention and weed protection is cool for mostly AFK though

[wise ruin]

what exactly do weeds do? sometimes, it feels like weeds are sucking the water out of my crops with water retain.

especially my apple trees

[acoustic laurel]

They're only supposed to stop crops from growing but there's is/was a bug that's made them reverse in growth unsure if the bug caused them to be unwatered too

[wise ruin]

that would make sense. I have 100% water retain on my 6 apple trees and they always seem to need to be watered (just not as often as normal), but I especially notice it while I have weeds. I wonder if it's just a coincidence or if the weeds are preventing the water retain to work.

According to online, weeds irl fight with crops to see who gets the water, nutrients, etc.

So I wonder if this was intentional on Singularity 6's part or if it is indeed a bug.

what do you think?

[acoustic laurel]

It's possible I know they cannot be watered so that would make sense. I started doing full water retention and weed prevention so I'm not sure what weeds do now

[wise ruin]

does your garden have at least 1 apple tree with water retain and weed prevention?

that's good to know. maybe I'll build a garden plan that adds weed prevention to my apple trees as well. i'll lose profit, but my garden is mostly focused on how many apples I get. my current layout gives me 612 apples.

it focuses on water retain and harvest boost for my 6 apple trees.

[untold wagon]

Hey guys! Just started playing Palia and I'm trying to get really into farming. Is it better to use star quality crops in the seed maker to get star seeds or should I save my star crops and just use regular crops?

[alpine patrol]

I've been using star crops to get star seeds and have been getting more star crops because of it? Then I just throw them all into the seed maker because I don't have preserves/jams yet, I'll replant what I need and sell the excess

[dusty kayak]

Use star quality seeds to make star quality crops to use the seedmaker to make MORE star quality seeds
Keep enough to plant and sell the excess

[untold wagon]

Ah gotcha thanks for affirming my path towards endless circular star qualityness 🤑 does star quality seeds guarantee star crops or does it just increase the chance?

[dusty kayak]

It increases the chance which also increases as you level

Once you hit 25 level gardening almost all the time star seeds will be star

At level 50 it maxes for regular seeds to be star too

[ember glade]

Do I have to put quality fertilizer on star quality seeds?

[acoustic laurel]

Chance to get star crops = your level x 2% (+star seeds adds 50%)

[acoustic laurel]

Depends on your level

[ember glade]

Ohhh dang! I didnt know level mattered? Youtube fibbed. 😂@acoustic laurel

Omg....if i would have looked one post up. Goodness... My bad.

So does level count towards all things??

[acoustic laurel]

It's only confirmed for cooking but the assumption is it does for cooking and hunting. Prob not the others

[ember glade]

@pandabera thank you for the info!!! Ill be curious to see what it turns out to be.

[fresh swallow]

I never see any speedygro gardens. I’ve learned they make the most money.

[wary finch]

if you can handle the output of speed grown crops, which isn't that easy, if you play a lot. The more you play, the more output you get which can be overwhelming amounts - and it will just bring you faster to the point, where there is nearly nothing left or worth buying for your mass amounts of gold - so yeah, probably slower is better.

[wary finch]

This is actually a problem I see for this game, money comes in rather quickly but there are long term no effective money sinks. Once you have acquired what you need, there is nothing really worth of acquiring even more wealth.

[timber swift]

Hello everyone. My main source of income is gardening. But I have yet to acquire apple seeds and blueberry seeds. I already have 4 preserve jars. What is the most profitable for jars and for seeds? What type of fertilizer do you use? Thanks

[round compass]

I always go for amount boost (the green one, not sure bout the name), because I already use starquality seeds in the first place. before I had apples and blueberries I was rolling pretty well with tomatoes. they are low maintenance and bring a good amount imo, also very useful for most recipes if needed. from what I calculated you lose money when turning crops into seeds and try to sell them, so i'd only make seeds for what you actually wanna plant. Im nowhere near of being professional here though ^^

[timber swift]

So if you plant start seeds they have higher chance of giving star vegetables?

[round compass]

I only get star veggies from these, so I think so yeah

[silver flower]

I decided to use your layout, but why is there no speedygro on the one apple tree?

[coarse depot]

Question for y'all smarter than me, do I harvest as they are ready and then use those crops to make the preserves and it's saying on the right half of the image how many preserves I'll be able to make from this layout and then once sold itll be 99k?

[nova yoke]

3.3k will be how much you'll make each in-game day after the growth cycle starts.
99k is after a month of in-game days.

That's how many jars you'll be making by the end, if you put everything in for jars/seeds

[wary finch]

the planner has a section where you can decide for every crop, if it will be seeded or jarred, it can calculate it for all star seeds, pre/post level 25 and so on. It just will not keep those settings when you are posting the link to your garden layout,

[nova yoke]

But yeah, jar pretty much everything but seed the potatoes and you'll get good profits

[wary finch]

I calculated my garden over a period of 180/360 days with seeding/preserving options and it turns out to yield 4100 gold/day in average,

As a rule of thumb you can memorize "seeding/jarring of produce adds about 50% in value".

with potatoes I tend to preserve them, because they provide high yield in a normal worm farm, which is convenient, if you need a lot of quality upgrade fertilizer.

That is actually a good investment, costs like 2 potatoes per day to have an all star-quality outcome of your produce (investment is 4 building licenses, 2 jars, 2 worm farms, but you want them anyway).

[coarse depot]

Do you then sell the potato seeds?

[wary finch]

I guess you don't mean me, I'm not seeding potatoes,but jar them and use pickled potatoes in a normal worm farm or as food.

But in general, with seeding, you sell everything what isn't required for replanting.

[coarse depot]

Sweet I like that idea. Do I have to reapply the fertilizer each day?

[wary finch]

yes, it depends on the crop and if it is already supported. In this case it isn't using up fertilizer in the soil.

[coarse depot]

Okay, and do I leave the weeds or pick them? Sorry for all the questions I'm new to this part of the game. I've only done gardening for the required quests thus far

[wary finch]

you need to pick them otherwise your crop won't grow.

[coarse depot]

Ok thank you

[acoustic laurel]

Fertilizer can also be stacked so you can put it all down at once instead of every day

[nova yoke]

Huh. You're right I didn't see how much starred potatoes gave

[coarse depot]

I don't have enough fertilizer to sustain adding it every day unless I start making a ton of worms

[nova yoke]

I usually just turn the potatoes into seeds for an extra bit of profit.

Honestly I just go for weed protection fertilizer from Zeki, you don't need fertilizer every time, since you'll be making good money regardless

[wary finch]

I run 2 jars for pickled potatoes and feed 2 normal worm farms with it, if you sleep like a human being and are not a 300hrs/month gamer, you will be fine like it and have enough fertilizer.

[coarse depot]

Ohh okay I was using the harvest boost fertilizer since that's what that image mentioned

[wary finch]

for harvest boost plant rice, wheat or corn nearby.

[coarse depot]

Awesome tysm

Just started pickling some potatoes 🙂

[wary finch]

look at the table above, the outcome of a normal worm farm is awesome with pickled potatoes used as feed.

[nova yoke]

Why did that comment seem personal.

This is the layout I use currently, it's more simplistic and even leaves room for whatever crop you may need more of.

Replacing corn with rice, if preferred

[wary finch]

haha, you caught me, that is the experience of binge playing in my first week.

[nova yoke]

Though I am finding myself running out of peppers and blueberries so I'll likely need to adopt that other farm soon.

[wary finch]

What I actually wanted to say with it is, how many jars, seeders and worm farms you'll need is a function of your playing behavior. The more you are playing Palia, the more jars and seeders you'll need to keep up with the outcome of your garden.

[nova yoke]

I only used two worm farms currently because I just keep forgetting to place them down.

[wary finch]

I wouldn't need them currently, my garden requires just 4 upgrade fertilizer per day or 8 if I plant potatoes as well, which I sometimes do before my potatoes run out.

hm, like I said, it is in the end a function of your playing hours per day spent, which decides if you need more or less jars and seeders.

The reason is clear, seeders and jars operate 24/7, but your garden just keeps growing when you are online. So you can control lack or abundance of crops by adjusting your playtime or the amount of seeders, jars and worm farms.

you can as well juggle with the amount of seeders vs. jars in a dynamic way to get it in balance with your play time spent.

As in, if you play a lot, use more seeders, if you play less, use more jars.

Same with what you should plant: if you play more, plant stuff which is normally seeded and comes in in large amounts. But if you play less, plant crops, which can be preserved.

[torn falcon]

Does anyone know what specifically causes the farming glitch that makes it so you can't interact with anything other than farming plots?

I thought it was running over my crops, but then it just happened while I was watering them.

[nova yoke]

Oh, just hit b.
And if you're not using anything in your hand, just go to an item in your inventory then hit B on it anyway. That resets it.

Or whatever the unequip button is on PC.

[torn falcon]

Thank you! I'll have to try that next time it happens. I've been leaving my house and coming back, which take like 5 minutes.

[nova yoke]

Normally the game just thinks you have something else equipped, so just spam whatever button you use to unequip something, while you're hovering over an item in your inventory/hand.

[wise ruin]

according to the Palia Garden Planner, putting SpeedyGro on all of the Apple Trees will backfire and reduce the money you make and the amount of apples you get (no idea why). It might be a bug or something on the coding from the website. idk of any logical explanation as to why it shows that.

[wise ruin]

so this is how many apples you get with the 5 SpeedyGro fertilizer (636 star quality apples).

And I'll show how many it gives you with 6 SpeedyGro fertilizers (1 on all 6 apple trees).

[wise ruin]

reduces it to 516 star quality apples. Not sure why.

[silver flower]

That's so weird. Hopefully this gets fixed because it makes no sense.

[wise ruin]

and the last harvest day drops by 20,000 gold.

my thoughts exactly haha

there is no logical explanation that I can think of.

i hope this doesn't prove to be facts in the game. like to where having SpeedyGro Fertilizer on all your apple trees drops the value and how many apples you get by a significant amount. That would be seriously bizarre.

there's already things in-game that make no sense.

[obsidian plume]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Palia/comments/19dyu4w/should_i_make_this_crop_into_seeds_or_preserves_i/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[lime summit]

Does anyone here run blueberry plants in their gardens? I'm trying to find a good layout for them now that I have access to star blueberry seeds

[nova yoke]

Do you have apples too? Otherwise you can replace the apples with any regular crop.

As this layout is probably what I'll do at some point to get back some more blue berries and spicy peppers.

Here's a 99% auto blueberry (or spicy pepper) farm.

The only loss would be the onion in the middle.

I left it without fertilizer, so you can mess around with it as you'd like.

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-OTOCPCOCO-BBTBBPBBT-OCOCPTOCO-TPTBBBBBB-BBBBO.HpBBBB-BBBBBBTPT-OCOTPCOCO-TBBPBBTBB-OCOCPCOTO

Also didn't mess around with jarring stuff.
Idk if it's better to jar carrots and onions, or what to do with them but you'll have an abundance of them regardless

Or if you don't care for weed protection. Just switch the onions for wheat, and carrots for corn/rice

[echo hedge]

basic figures

you may be wondering "why are potato seeds better profit than apple seeds?" well, you need 10 apples to make an apple seed. So it works out more profit per potato into potato seeds.

[lofty sandal]

Would be cool if things like that can get pinned in the channel

[acoustic laurel]

There's a couple of things pinned in the #🐣│palia-newbies channel but nothing here

[dusty kayak]

Gardening math doc is pinned in newbies

[left portal]

Anyone have notes for me improving this layout?
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-T.WP.WT.WB.HB.HA.HB.HB.HA.H-P.WT.HC.HA.HA.HO.HpA.HA.HA.H-B.HB.HT.WB.HB.HP.WA.HA.HT.W-C.HO.HpA.HT.HA.HA.HP.WA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HO.HpA.HA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HP.WA.HA.HT.HA.HO.HpC.H-T.WA.HA.HP.WB.HB.HT.WB.HB.H-A.HA.HA.HO.HpA.HA.HC.HT.HP.W-A.HB.HB.HA.HB.HB.HT.WP.WT.W

[hexed helm]

Question? Have the Devs said we will never get more garden plots?

[clear kindle]

i don't think they have said if we will or not. but i believe there will be more crops down the line so i would think they would give more eventually

[hexed helm]

Thank you! I appreciate this! I had someone in a FB group being rude to people saying that the Devs said permanent no.... Thank you again for telling me so kindly!

[clear kindle]

welcome

the game is still in beta, so really, nothing should be set in stone as of now

[dusty kayak]

I hate misinformation spreaders

Theres like a whole bunch of crops we'll get eventually ||in the game files|| i can only assume they're going to implement for soil. When they gave us building clusters they increased the decoration limit so anything is possible and changeable

[clear kindle]

i mean, it's obvious that there will be more crops. when cooking using a recipe that needs vegetables you can see on the icon that shows tomatoes, potatoes, onions, carrots and two crops that we don't have yet (a round green object which could be either lettuce or cabbage and something that looks like a pumpkin)

[edgy leaf]

Hey everyone! Today I realized my desire to become the Worm Queen is much too strong to deny. Would this channel be the most appropriate place to ask fellow Wormians if there are any tricks to making the biggest and bestest wermies?

[sick glacier]

Do any crops give more xp towards lvling or would I be better off just planting carrots or whatver is quickest?

[still blade]

With this layout, is it better to sell them apples or turn them into Jam? I'm looking for a layout which maximizes the money for me.

[wary finch]

this shows to me, that lots of apple trees and afk-garden layouts are not the solution. I added preserve and seeding calculations to your layout and calculated it over a span of 360 days, turns out to yield about 300k gold less than my garden, which has no apple trees at all. Your garden is easier to maintain than mine, but this convenience comes at a price of 300k per in-game year.

[left portal]

Any improvements on the layout which could boost the yield/speed?

I have tried removing weed protection but it ends up being clunky. Any ideas on how to avoid having to check on weeds other than fertilizer

[wary finch]

I have like 6 weeds to pull on a normal in-game day and more when I leave my garden alone for an rl day. This is inconvenient, but I run 9 blueberry bushes and 5 spicy peppers, with just rice and cotton in between, it takes just 4 fertilizers per day for all starred produce and a few normal cotton for the loom. Neither water retained nor weed protected it yields about 4100g/day with preservation and seeding of the produce. I have an uncommon layout though https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11111-11111_CROPS-CoBBRBBSp.QSp.QSp-RBBCoBBSpRSp-RBBCoBBSpRSp-RBBCoBBSpRSp-NNNNNNSpCoR-Sp.QSp.QSpRBBCoBB-SpCoSpRBBCoBB-SpCoSpRBBCoBB-SpCoSpRBBCoBB-SpBBRBBNNN

I'm not saying this is best or something, just that it doesn't take apple trees to get good results,

And that weed protection and water retain is quite costly.

Convenience comes at a price.

this said, if your goal is glow worms, there is nothing like apple jam which maximizes those.

well, ok, I have to pull weeds, but those are worth 21k in an in-game year, so they are extra income.

[frail escarp]

Oh, it's cause the days setting is set to automatic. It simulates everything till the day of last harvest, in which case was the sole apple tree going for 30 days till speedygro was applied to it, reducing to 20.

If you manually set it to 30 days, the amount goes higher

[feral elbow]

hello
i'm 37 in gardening and i wanted to get crops without stars but it's really hard/impossible

there is a tips to don't get star plants ?

[wheat terrace]

There is a "First World Palians" joke in there I know it...

In the short term try to use unstarred seeds for planting, it will increase your odds for unstarred plants, though I believe reaching 50 in gardening will remove that too...

[feral elbow]

no ^^
i just wanted to have the unstarred crops and seed in storage

i have used unstarred seeds but now, i'm low in unstarred plants and seeds XD

[wheat terrace]

Yeah the game is pushing towards full star crops as you get higher in gardening. If you just want to restock for storage and not for regular use you might just go the expensive route and buy the produce directly. But if you are just trying to stockpile to continue cooking with unstarred crops you will eventually be out of luck.

[feral elbow]

with a calculation found here, i'm at 74% of star luck with normal seeds ^^'
and maybe buying normal plants and crops will be an obligation but will be stupidly expensive. a unstarring fertilizer may be usefull XD

so yes, it looks that i'll have to cook with star only and continue to hide some low quantities starred cooking ingredients to keep a small quantity, in case of need

[wheat terrace]

The real pain is the realization that soon you will be forced to feed Starred cotton into the mill for regular fabric when you need it... 😛

[feral elbow]

also, it's a loss of money

well okay, i have stupidly buy 3 useless housing plots just to have the gazebo XD

[wheat terrace]

House plot, Farm plot, Cooking party plot, Furniture Storage/showcase plot, Winter Wonderland plot if you went all in on those snowpiles and such, Bug/Fish Aquarium plot.

Crafting plot...

[feral elbow]

i have my fields, a workshop, outside machines, my house and a gazebo on the same plot, it's infinitely more easy to handle than separated things

[wheat terrace]

Did you buy writs?

[feral elbow]

also, 30 working machines is not enough, we need more crafting licences

all are buyed

[wheat terrace]

Ah, explains why you have the room for all that. 😛 I'm spending all my renown on the Focus shrines first. Have the bonus maxed working on the total focus now.

Default starting bit fills fast.

[feral elbow]

^^
i'm at 910 focus, 100% focus bonus and have all wrists

and all 3 were buyen +/- together

[wheat terrace]

10 focus each turn in at that point right?

[feral elbow]

yes

it's long but i'm quite close to the end

what to do with reputation after ?

[wheat terrace]

The renown past that point? I am honestly considering just stopping playing till they add a new thing to use it on. It would irritate me greatly if I kept playing, lost a ton of renown from going over the cap, and then they add something I really want to get. As it is I've already pulled back on talking to everyone regularly and doing their quests as fast as I can to delay while I work on the things that don't give renown as fast like farming all the materials to make one of every furniture item. Or building up my seed stockpiles on my crops while I decide how I actually want to start using them.

[feral elbow]

sure, i don't want to lost renom too

1000 is a too small limit
all limits are too small in fact

[wheat terrace]

I am assuming that the small limits on everything are a product of the game still being in beta and they want to make sure if an infinite glitch is discovered they can limit the damage of someone stockpiling and therefore ruining the pacing of progression for that character.

[feral elbow]

or just to force the player to constantly use those things

[wary finch]

you could as well create a new character (with new e-mail ofc) and start over again. Maybe do something differently this time, like I'm doing, this character is on pause, while my new one is doing well,but has a different approach to it.

[feral elbow]

Interesting
Creating another character, giving them gems (for money), and seeds.
Making plants and then giving me the seeds and plants ^^

Lot of stemps

My first character will stay my only used character

[wary finch]

no,that would be a cheat, both are independent.

[feral elbow]

Reroll just to have normal crops is not a really good idea i think

[wary finch]

my problem was not slow progression, but too fast progression before I even knew, what matters and what doesn't.

like buying 3 housing plots and none of them is "virgin", and I wanted some scrub and bushes as well, but I had cut them all first time around. Now I haven't cut them and it looks much nicer.

I see no reason to stockpile normal crops, my stuff is nearly all star quality.

Or to focus on apples,whilst I'm doing much better without apples.

[feral elbow]

I have buy 3 housing plots just to have the gazebo ^^'

To keep normal crops is always useful, for gifts for example (as star things can't be gifted to players).

My apples are a bit for apple pies

[wary finch]

ok, I did not bake anything yet, so I simply don't know. I was just disappointed, that every new housing plot is basically the same instead to get independent virgin plots.

[feral elbow]

Baking is interesting to get focus and then leveling faster

[wary finch]

ok, gifting, I didn't think about that. Some people are really generous, like I never expected to get 20 infused planks gifted, but I got them 2nd try.

So now I have to gift as well once I have enough of those.

[feral elbow]

🙂

I gift some things when i can

[wary finch]

as far as farming plots go, I think we should have 15 of those, this would allow for having gardens on up to 2 housing plots, like 3x3 and 2x3 gardens.

[feral elbow]

Also

Or to can place apple trees as decoration anywhere without using the farming plots