🌱│gardening

[dusty kayak]

yeah less work tends to mean less money, more work tends to be more money, usually you kind of want to balance that out

or yknow someone might enjoy watering every day too thats also a thing XD just whatever you enjoy can be enough for you

[vocal bronze]

@dusty kayak Is checkerboard better for more water retention but rows is better for harvest boost?

[dusty kayak]

the same crops next to each other don't do anything to each other so straight lines have a lot of overlap 🤔

diagonal lines are a similarly easy pattern to remember while having different crops touching

[vocal bronze]

Cool. Thanks!!!

[wary finch]

simply because blueberry gives a speed boost, so all near it grows quicker and can be harvested more often. Harvesting is what gains experience and the more often you can do that the quicker your experience gain will be. With 11 bushes most of the support crop is adjacent to a blueberry bush and can be harvested more often.

but that means as well more work and care going into farming.

[vocal bronze]

@dusty kayak Hey. I just checked with both rows and checkerboard, but the planner seems to say that you get less water retain with rows but more harvest boost with rows than checkerboard. Is that correct? Here are both layouts.

[vocal bronze]

Cool thanks! 😄

[dusty kayak]

i mean in the rows one you're doubling up quite a lot, but also have rice and corn touching so thats the rice and corn being harvest boosted adding to your harvest boost stats
if you wanted some more water retentian youd want potatoes touching more tomatoes but then it becomes less like rows and more complicated XD

[gray veldt]

Hey yall, I was wondering if someone could help me out. I’ve been messing with this tracker thing to try and get a farm going that has everything except apples (haven’t unlocked yet). With 100% water and weed non fertilized . Does anyone have one saved?

[dusty kayak]

no peppers but i got this one from Milk

link: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-PTWOCOCrTP-PTWOCOCrTP-PTWOCOCrTP-PTWOCOCrTP-PTWOCOCrTP-PTWOCOCrTP-PTWOCOCrTP-PTWOCOCrTP-PTWOCOCrTP

[gray veldt]

Id like to include peppers and blueberries if I can. Trying to anyway. I like that one though.

[dusty kayak]

i can experiment 🤔

brb

[vocal bronze]

I get what you mean! But I meant in the rows one, you still get quite a lot more tomatoes. Why is the checkerboard one still better? (Not bashing or anything, I am just genuinely curious. 🥰)

[dusty kayak]

just no same crops touching each other (wasted potential) while still being an easy pattern 🤔

all in all you of course can do whatever you want to do

[thorn fox]

What’s a good blueberry setup to get the most out of them without fertilizers?

[gray veldt]

Thanks. I’m not doing it for profit more so for food and materials. My idea is to be self sufficient. Let that farm go while I go fish or hunt for money.

[dusty kayak]

lol?
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-POCTSpSpCSpSp-TPOPTCOPO-CTPSpSpCSpSpO-OTPCPTTCO-COTPTPCWC-CTPOPTPTO-PBBCBBOTP-CrROPTPCOT-BBCBBPOCT

this was a wild experiment XD

[dusty kayak]

weed plot if it wasn't busted (blueberry pie one)
weedplot is essentially you have 8 plots for your crops and the 9th plot holds all the weeds so you don't get weeds on your other 8, but there is a bug where weed plot causes crops to grow in reverse sometimes lol

(credits to Milk of course)

[vocal bronze]

Where are those articles Milk writes?

[gray veldt]

That’s awesome!!! Thank you! I’ll just have to buy fabric or gift it when I need it

[thorn fox]

What’s wrong with weeds? Also, I thought we weren’t supposed to have plants side by side that were the same?

[dusty kayak]

its not that you arent supposed to, but different layouts have different purposes

weeds prevent crop growth also

[thorn fox]

Also, what happens if I’m not level 25 yet? What benefits am I not getting yet?

[dusty kayak]

but yeah different strokes for different folks as they say, maximizing what you want depends on your goals

[dusty kayak]

honestly you can craft quality fert yourself, I used cotton when I played because i felt like it, but crafting quality fert takes these ingredients:

[thorn fox]

I’m just learning. I haven’t taken gardening seriously and read bits and pieces here and there. Not quite have the full picture in regards to understanding gardening.

[dusty kayak]

a shepp wrote a guide for explaining gardening that's pretty in depth

[thorn fox]

A Shepp? I chose Sifuu so I don’t think I got it.

[dusty kayak]

guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bjqQGwzhW7wsIpSDoO3xCMwqbX7ZbsdsuuXmPEXCrjE/edit?usp=sharing
garden math: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YV_LiHp48shNifWakdZtOI9j6_IqQI0A7dRdr28lHNY/edit?usp=sharing

[dusty kayak]

no sorry, the discord server shepps

thery're all of our Shepps

[thorn fox]

Oh, I’m sorry. That went straight over my head😅

So at level 25 gardening you get a new recipe?

[dusty kayak]

[dusty kayak]

nope

you can buy the quality fert recipe at level 5

[thorn fox]

Oh, so what do you get at level 25? The layout says post level 25. I’ve got a long way to go😅

[dusty kayak]

ah, so

as you level your chances for getting star quality seeds improves

at level 25 it caps out for quality seeds being quality crops

so you pretty much dont need to boost it anymore if you use quality seeds

at level 50 it caps out for even regular seeds but by then youll mostly be using quality seeds

[thorn fox]

Ah okay, that makes sense. Thanks so much for the detailed explanations! It helps me a great deal.

[dusty kayak]

[gray veldt]

I came up with this but I can’t get the image to load.

[dusty kayak]

send the link

[gray veldt]

Only the center doesn’t have weed prevention. https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/

[dusty kayak]

thats regular link

[gray veldt]

Gotta save. Got it

[dusty kayak]

yeahhh

[gray veldt]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CPTOTCoPCoSp-PCoPCOCSpPB-TPCCoTOBCoP-TOSpCoCTTOB-SpTBPCPBTSp-BOTTCCoSpOT-PCoBOTCoCPT-BPSpCOCPCoP-SpCoPCoTOTPC

v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CPTOTCoPCoSp-PCoPCOCSpPB-TPCCoTOBCoP-TOSpCoCTTOB-SpTBPCPBTSp-BOTTCCoSpOT-PCoBOTCoCPT-BPSpCOCPCoP-SpCoPCoTOTPC

[dusty kayak]

can slap some fert on these 3 spots if you wanted to get some weedblock fert for your convinience

oh and the bottom 2 just noticed

so like this ( fert marked)

[thorn fox]

Has this been updated by the creator showing the top right setup? Now I’m kinda curious😬😅

[dusty kayak]

you can stack a few fert on it so it just absorbs on it's own for each growth tick so you still dont have to go home

[dusty kayak]

good question, haven't seen it yet myself

[gray veldt]

That’s not a bad idea. I’ll have to get the recipe to make it first

[dusty kayak]

an unfortunate thing is

buyable only

but at least it would only be for just a few crops?

[gray veldt]

Yeah that’s not so bad

[dusty kayak]

it gets the job done

[gray veldt]

My worms make enough growth to cover the rest as well. Like I have like 600 saved up from glow worm farm

If I can just stack it and walk away for a bit

[dusty kayak]

im someone who always sells fert its my main source of incom

fert and worms but i keep 100 regular worms for fishing and i make glow worms out of junk like non starred meats

[gray veldt]

I’m a hoarder… hahahaha

[dusty kayak]

i mostly do apple jam to worm farm for monies

its better when im online more often so trees actually grow, been slacking for a bit while i hoard cooking ingredients for a bit right now

[gray veldt]

Does the food you put in the worm farm matter?

[dusty kayak]

oh yeah

my favorite doc : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tr5KdvomPxOsA93HC9S7vDdP_bnffWifpwwQPCectdg/edit#gid=0

[gray veldt]

Oh wow!!! I can double my fertilizer by switching to wheat instead of using tomato’s

[gray veldt]

Thanks for the heads up! That changes things

Knowing I can buy fertilizer and stack it for a few game days!!! I’ll have to mess with the farm thing a bit more with that information

[gray veldt]

How do I remove a seed if I put it in the wrong spot?

[maiden python]

Right-click on PC, X on Switch.

[gray veldt]

Thank you!!!!!!

[ocean kiln]

hi, i've recently started playing and trying to focus on my farming, is this a good layout or should i be doing something else with it?

[dusty kayak]

pretty good balance

[obsidian plume]

it's a decent layout if you've just started but i think you can get two of the boosts to 100% if you do it right

[ocean kiln]

thanks, is that the most important thing then? do i need to worry about quality at all?

[obsidian plume]

you'll eventually be getting 100% star quality crops without the boost

[acoustic laurel]

It depends on what you're looking for. Do you want quality crops to help increase the chance of quality food. Iirc quality crops is needed ||for some quests||

[dusty kayak]

you can do whatever you want and itll be alright regardless tbh just different ways to minmax depending on your goal

[ocean kiln]

oh ive been using it as money making and for cooking atm

[bleak lava]

Hello, is there a way to get any fruit before level 10 in gardening ?

[grand linden]

This is the layout I made ^^

[dusty kayak]

blueberry seeds: ||badruu level 3 friendship||
apple seeds: ||naio|| or ||zeki|| ||level 3 friendship||

[bleak lava]

apreciate thanks

[ocean kiln]

thanks, thats handy, just need to get those peppers lol

[ocean kiln]

looks like i also need to work on friendships, thanks

[vivid forge]

I got the seeds in my zeki balls

[dusty kayak]

well yes, but thats rare LOL good job though

[golden forge]

what is the best layout to make money i got every star quality seeds just want to know the best way to plant so i can make money like should i just plant all tomato's ?

[dusty kayak]

if you wanted all tomatoes at least also harvest boost them LOL

but that would also mean you water them every day

[golden forge]

this is my plot set up at the moment just not sure it's optimal

[dusty kayak]

harvest boosting is enough to please my brain

[wheat terrace]

If you really love tomatoes ignore this, but this version gives you full water and a touch of cotton for building with and starring things if you need the extra boost.

Oh, and it harvest boosts the blueberries...forgot I put that in there.

[wary finch]

So the first harvest from my only apple tree was 24 star quality apples. Didn't Kwatsu say, he got 12? why do I have double as many then?

[vernal bluff]

You probably boosted it with corn/wheat/rice to get a harvest boost

[wary finch]

yeah i did, but double as many seems strange.

[vernal bluff]

If there are three of the things around the apple (e.g. 3 corn) one apple tree gives u 24 apples

[wary finch]

ok, then I got the normal amount.

[grand linden]

Fair XD

[hidden thorn]

first time doing anything big gardening
is this decent?

[outer ruin]

Started redesigning the garden and every used fertilizer jumped onto me ! Had to make more glowfarms just to store them 😬

[azure prairie]

you can sell like 80% of this and never notice.

quality boost doesn't matter after (star seed + level 25) so that's just free real estate. You'll never need more than 81 total (growth+harvest) for a single palia day. Counting only the growth fertilizer you have, you have 28-29 palia days on-hand. If you're glow worm farming star apple cakes, you're generating, what, 23-24 growth fertilizer per hour (which is == palia day) per glow worm farm? as long as you're sleeping even somewhat like a functional human being, you're probably keeping up with fertilizer needs.

[outer ruin]

If I sell how can I reuse after replant ? 🥺

[azure prairie]

I don't understand what you're asking

[outer ruin]

You know a slot uses 99 fertilizer right ? There are 81 of those slots in a farm which I had stacked upto 99. Thats over 5000 fertilizer which I dont have storage to store .
After redesgning the farm I have to use them again on the right slots .
So Im asking How is selling an option ?

[azure prairie]

No, you can put 99 fertilizer in a spot. You don't have to.

maxing it out doesn't have any immediate benefit.

If you somehow already have max fertilizer on every crop in your garden, you are incredibly overgenerating fertilizer and should probably redo math because you're probably losing money on something

[outer ruin]

I sell the extra fert once its upto 99

So I have to stack it upto 99 Just because I like it that way,
Just because it doesn't have an immediate affect doesn't mean Im not gonna it . 🙂

• Its gonna take alot time to generate that amount of fertilizer if I sell instead of storing

[azure prairie]

I think we're maybe talking past one another.

If you are generating more fertilizer than you can use, you are generating too much fertilizer. It doesn't matter if that number is 3 too many fertilizer or 800 too many fertilizer. If you have 5000 in your inventory and 5000 on your plants, you have generated 5000 to much fertilizer. There mathematically cannot be a use for more than at most 81 fertilizer per Palia-day for your entire plot.

[outer ruin]

Oh I think you have misunderstood from the start ,
I had over 5000 in my farm which is now in my inventory .

Thats literally the first thing I said. " Every used fertilizer jumped onto me" Dont know why you assumed it was still there lol ...

[rocky vessel]

What are y'all putting in the Jar? Starred vegetables ?
You keep some starred to make starred crops and the rest you put in the jar for profit ?

[silent iron]

yes, first i meake starred seeds and then I use the rest for starred pickles, except for potatoes. apparently pickled potatoes don't taste very good.

[rocky vessel]

Wow, I'll need 50 Jars to transform allmy Vegetable, takes so much time. Pretty sure I do even produce more than I can actually create pickles

[silent iron]

That's impressive!

[rocky vessel]

I guess I'll jsut sell some without transforming them

[vital timber]

Does anyone know how to get blueberries?

[silent iron]

I believe it's level 2 friendship with badruu

[silent iron]

level 3 my bad

[earnest thunder]

Does anyone have a layout that's better than this for someone who is only level 7 farming? https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoPOOTCoCPR-CTWRPOWTC-OTPSpSpCSpSpW-RTCCoPOCTCo-OPOCTCOPW-WTPSpSpCSpSpO-OPRCTCWPO-WTORPCCoTW-WTPSpSpTSpSpC

[left portal]

Anyone have a layout for Spicy Peppers, Hydrated, Weeded, Quality, and Boosted?

[earnest thunder]

Oh man, that's like my question, but worded way better!

[vital timber]

Ok thx

[whole anchor]

Use the garden planner website

Gardening, seemed slow at first, but now it just levels almost everyday as I do basic maintenance. It kind of helps to level farming before leveling cooking, then just sell all the produce until you have all the soil plots.

I mean it's almost 10 levels above cooking due to the cooking bugs.

[outer ruin]

Made this just focused on pepper

[dusty kayak]

After apples i started leveling 2 times a day even imto my 60s
Im like level 75 right now

[royal sundial]

Question: When you do one of these little set ups, do you harvest and replant as soon as something is grown, or do you let it sit until everything is grown, and then pick all at once? Very new to the pattern farm thing.

[dusty kayak]

the buff stops working eventually so i always harvest and replant as it grows

[royal sundial]

It does? I did not know that. So it looks like harvest and replant is the way to go then, especially if you have a set up you want to keep rolling for a while.

[dusty kayak]

also if your pattern is confusing you i recommend like, picking 1 type of crop at a time
like all the tomatoes and then all the potatoes etc etc
so you can pick and replace without goofing up the pattern

my memory is horrible lol

[royal sundial]

That's how I've been planting! I too, have a horrendous memory

[wary finch]

@silent iron pickled potatoes are quite nutritious foodstuff and worms love it. They produce a high quantity of quality upgrade fertilizer from it in a worm farm.

I produce just 3 kinds in my preserve jars, blueberry and apple jam and pickled potatoes, because 3 worm farms create all the fertilizer I need from those.

what @dusty kayak said about the progression after having blueberries and/or apples is about right, before the weekend I was level 16 and now level 27 gardening, that is 11 levels in 5 days, so yeah, 2 levels per rl day is correct.

[neon star]

how to use star crops for better yield ?

[wary finch]

convert them into seeds using a seeder

[neon star]

thanks

What is the best model for maximum money

i use it

[wary finch]

there are plenty of layouts in this thread, it really depends on what you want to achieve with your garden setup

[neon star]

okay thanks

[maiden python]

@neon star Do you have apple and blueberry seeds?

[neon star]

I only have 5 blueberries and 0 apples

[maiden python]

Ah, okay. The layout I use has a few apple trees. Here it is, ICYI: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.SRCrRBBCrBB-AAAAAAAAA-CrRP.SBBRBBCr-AAAAAAAAA-PRPRCr.SRPRP-AAAAAAAAA-CrBBRBBP.SRCr-AAAAAAAAA-BBCrBBRCrRP.S

[neon star]

i try when i can

[gray veldt]

How are yall posting screen shots of the screen? I can only do a link

[maiden python]

You can export to an image format.

[gray veldt]

Doesn’t work on my phone I guess, only get a small portion…. Oh well.

So I’ve been working with this farm for a few days now. Seems to be going well. Maybe not the most efficient but it’s easy. I turn what I need to into seeds for the next harvest. The rest is Potato’s to feed my worms, blueberries to feed my jam addiction , tomatoes to sell and convert to seeds. Not the biggest money maker but I keep a steady supply of food and worms. The income isn’t terrible either, it’s enough to buy what I need and save for some items.

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CP.HT.WOTCoP.HCoB.H-P.HCoP.HCOCB.HP.HB.H-T.WP.HCCoTOB.HCoP.H-TOB.HCoCTTOB.H-B.HTB.HP.HC.WP.HB.HTB.H-B.HOTTCCoB.HOT-P.HCoB.HOTCoCP.HT.W-B.HP.HB.HCOCP.HCoP.H-B.HCoP.HCoTOT.WP.HC

[dusty kayak]

i just screenshot it for pics lol

[gray veldt]

I do but the screen is t big enough and cuts it off.

This is what I get from the exported file

[dusty kayak]

xD on mobile i just screen shot left and right XD

[gray veldt]

That makes sense

[dusty kayak]

doesnt happen too often only when im in bed and feel like responding

[gray veldt]

Hahaha. You sleep? I saw a post earlier where you’re like level 76 in farming

I’m only level 13 at the moment…..lmao.

[tame hinge]

Anyone get a better layout for blueberry+apples this is what I’m working with rn

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-1111-1111_CROPS-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-R.HR.HT.HB.HB.HCr.HB.HB.HCo.H-R.HRT.HB.HB.HCr.HB.HB.HCo.H-R.HR.HT.HB.HB.HCr.HB.HB.HCo.H-R.HR.HT.HB.HB.HCr.HB.HB.HCo.H

[dusty kayak]

i said when im in bed not that i sleep

i usually turn off pc screen , go into bed, and then boot palia on switch because i have a problem

[gray veldt]

Try alternating top and bottom with apples. Same set up but swap. You’ll get the buff on two trees from the blueberries

[gray veldt]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-1111-1111_CROPS-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-CoCr.HTBBCr.HBBCo-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-CoCr.HTBBCr.HBBCo-CoBBR.HBBTR.HCo-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-CoBBR.HBBTR.HCo-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H

Something like that.

8 cotton instead of 8 rice though but about half the fertilizer needed and an extra $3k in profit

[maiden python]

@tame hinge You could try this layout. Same amount of fruit, but with 100% growth/harvest and no fert: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-1111-1111_CROPS-WRCrAAAAAA-BBRBBWAAA-WRCrAAAAAA-BBRBBCrAAA-AAAWBBRBB-AAAAAAWRCr-AAACrBBRBB-AAAAAAWRCr

[solid cedar]

best items to make speedy fert?

[buoyant girder]

how’s this layout

[steady barn]

what is the best 9x9 layout if you have potatos and cotton?

[whole hinge]

Like, only potatoes and cotton?

[steady barn]

yes

and tomato

[whole hinge]

If you wanna ensure each plant gets the other two buffs, just do alternative diagonal rows

[steady barn]

can you do a planner for me please? I dont get it

[silent iron]

I am already producing more star quality crops from star quality seeds than I can process, the only fertilizer I use for the design I have right now is weedblock, and even then only on the apple tree because i value symmetry more than trying to make sure it gets all the buffs

[royal sundial]

Something like this is what they mean I think

[left portal]

Nice this is what I needed

[south notch]

is there a handy list of common plans? I'm looking for something with 100% weed and water retention, that ideally uses all the crops

[mystic trail]

I have a better one:

Or this:

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-O.QC.QT.QT.QW.QA.WP.HRA.W-P.QT.QP.HA.WA.WSp.WA.WA.WSp.W-T.HC.QO.QSp.WW.HT.QSp.WR.HP.H-Co.QCr.HA.WO.HT.QB.WC.QP.QB.W-A.WA.WB.WB.WCo.HpB.WB.WA.WA.W-B.WT.HCo.QB.WP.QO.HA.WW.QC.Q-T.QW.HSp.WP.QCr.HSp.WO.QC.QT.H-Sp.WA.WA.WSp.WA.WA.WP.HT.QP.Q-A.WR.QT.QA.WCr.QP.QT.QC.QO.Q

[dreamy pilot]

Which actions exactly grant gardening xp? Is it only harvesting?

[buoyant girder]

ooooo not badddd

i’m going to use that one

[maiden python]

Yup. Basically, any activity that adds something to your inventory grants XP; harvesting crops, crafting furniture, picking up hunting loot, etc.

[dreamy pilot]

Ah damn, that makes the grind even harder

[dusty kayak]

Do multiyielding crops like tomatoes peppers blueberries apples etc and boost your focus bar at the phoenix shrine and always have food in your focus bar youll be fine

[scenic cape]

Want to start growing hot peppers…is there a good garden plot layout before fruit but with hot pepppers?

[dire lynx]

Made my first farm since unlocking both blueberries and apples, calling it the "Little Bit Of Everything", has every crop!
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.HW.HP.HCo.HA.HA.HR.HA.HA.H-Co.HW.HCo.HA.HB.HB.HA.HB.HB.H-C.HSp.HSp.HCo.HSp.HSp.HT.HCo.HO.H-Co.HA.HA.HW.HB.HB.HCo.HB.HB.H-A.HW.HT.HCr.HO.HCr.HT.HW.HA.H-B.HB.HCo.HB.HB.HW.HA.HA.HCo.H-O.HCo.HT.HSp.HSp.HCo.HSp.HSp.HC.H-B.HB.HA.HB.HB.HA.HCo.HW.HCo.H-A.HA.HR.HA.HA.HCo.HP.HW.HP.H

[dusty kayak]

@sand escarp
so because I was asked
my 40k a day strategy consists of a 5 apple tree layout with harvest boost on the trees

I seed potatoes
I pickle tomatoes
I jam apples
I put the apple jam into 7 worm farms

I collect and refill when i wake up, and before I go to bed
roughly 20 k each time

Below is 2 examples of the layout (ignore the first one isn't bothering to harvest boost the corn by putting wheat or rice next to it, it's mostly because I was cutting down on what seeds id need to replace lol)

[sand escarp]

that's cool. thank you!

[dusty kayak]

and here's my apple math lol

doing worm farm AND jamming takes some time, but I just prefer the output

[jovial jay]

Do you guys buy seeds or make the seeds yourselves?

[acoustic laurel]

Bought them until I had my garden going/enough seeds now I make them.

[jovial jay]

How do you like, ratio what you'll sell versus what you'll turn into seeds?

[acoustic laurel]

I know some seeds make more money but I'm too lazy for that math. What I do is put enough in seeders to replant and sell everything except like 10-20 crops to cook. Now I jam everything except 10-20 crops and sell that or worm it

[jovial jay]

Ahh okay! How much profit do you make?

[acoustic laurel]

I don't keep track lol but I I've seen someone saying they make like 40k

[jovial jay]

dayum

I need to hop on the gardening grind, but a lil lost

[scenic cape]

Yeah I need to get apple seeds so I can get on this train. But if you use the tutorial that is linked on the site with the garden mapping it will get you going. It’s not making me 40k a day but definitely rocking money now:)

[jovial jay]

ooo which site? the garden layout thingie? o:

[scenic cape]

Give me a sec I’ll drop the link

[jovial jay]

Tysm! 🥳

[scenic cape]

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1bjqQGwzhW7wsIpSDoO3xCMwqbX7ZbsdsuuXmPEXCrjE/mobilebasic

That’s the guide

[drifting whale]

Crop Profits

Apple
Base Quality 64, ⭐Quality 96
Seeds: BQ 700 +60,⭐Q 1050 +90 [10:1]
Jam: BQ 96 +32, ⭐Q 144 +48

Blueberry
Base Quality 39, ⭐ Quality 58
Seeds: BQ 112 +68, ⭐Q 168 +104 [4:2]
Jam: BQ 59 +20, ⭐Q 88 +30

Carrots
Base Quality 23, ⭐ Quality 34
Seeds: BQ 7 +5, ⭐Q 10 +6 [1:4]
Pickles: BQ 34 +11, ⭐Q 51 +17

Corn
Base Quality 40, ⭐ Quality 60
Seeds: BQ 15 +60, ⭐Q 22 +88 [1:4]
Pickles: BQ 60 +20, ⭐Q 90 +30

Cotton
Base Quality 45, ⭐ Quality 67
Seeds: BQ 20 +15, ⭐Q 30 +23 [1:3]
Fabric: BQ 48 +3 (NO ⭐Q)

Onion
Base Quality 30, ⭐ Quality 45
Seeds: BQ 10 +10, ⭐Q 15 +15[1:4]
Pickles: BQ 45 +15, ⭐Q 67 +22

Potato
Base Quality 45, ⭐ Quality 67
Seeds: BQ 20 +35,⭐Q 30 +53 [1:4]
Pickles: BQ 68 +23, ⭐Q 102 +35

Rice
Base Quality 27, ⭐ Quality 40
Seeds: BQ 11 +17, ⭐Q 16 +25 [1:4]
Dish: Congee: BQ 53 +1, ⭐Q 81 +1 [2:1]

Spicy pepper
Base Quality 32, ⭐ Quality 48
Seeds: BQ 85 +42, ⭐Q 127 +65 [4:2]
Pickles: BQ 48 +16, ⭐Q 72 +25

Tomato
Base Quality 23, ⭐ Quality 34
Seeds: BQ 40 +11, ⭐Q 60 +18 [3:2]
Pickles: BQ 34 +11, ⭐Q 51 +17

Wheat
Base Quality 33, ⭐ Quality 49
Seeds: BQ 12 +15, ⭐ 18 +23 [1:4]
[NO PRESERVES]

[rocky vessel]

Is there a way to know what Worms (number)/fertilizer what vegetal will give us ?

[outer ruin]

This layout is 🔥

Replaced bottom half with onions for the fertilizer distribution

[lofty sandal]

I don't understand crop growth. When I wake in the morning all my crops should be ready to harvest but they aren't. Why is this? Do I have to be on for the crops to grow?

[acoustic laurel]

It only grows when you're online but it grows one more tick when you're logged off

[dusty kayak]

!crops

[compact coral]

Badruu

Why aren't my crops growing?

Crops can only grow up to 1 stage per Palian Day as long as your online. Keep that in mind!

[astral gull]

how do i get rid of planted crops

i misclicked

[dusty kayak]

on switch its x

on pc it's right click

you hold it down

[astral gull]

WHAT!!!!!

OMG!!!!

[gray veldt]

Finally made it to a point where I am producing enough blueberry jam to eat that I have extra for one of my worm farms. Eventually I’ll have to many blueberries and it will be time to change my farm to include apples as well. It’s a good day!

[astral gull]

i only have a single blueberry bush, lucky you

[dusty kayak]

thankfully you can just seed make for more at that point

[gray veldt]

All it takes is one seed to get started

[astral gull]

yeah i know

[gray veldt]

Apple seeds you get as a quest reward from Zeki and Nai’o at level 3 friendship.

[wary finch]

there is https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tr5KdvomPxOsA93HC9S7vDdP_bnffWifpwwQPCectdg/edit#gid=0

for quality upgrade fertilizer I put pickled potatoes in my worm farms

[gray veldt]

So is it just me or is cotton totally broken. Star cotton sells for 67 and star seeds sell for 20 (60 for all 3 seeds produced). That doesn’t seem right.

[dusty kayak]

just sometimes it be like that XD

[gray veldt]

Wild. I’m finding out a lot more about this game the more I dig into it. Don’t even bother making Star cotton into fabric. It’s like a 60% loss in profit

They should up star cotton seeds price to like 25. At least then there is a little benefit to taking the extra time to convert them

[dusty kayak]

oh yeah common newbie mistake is to think fabric will sell well from starred cotton XD

but since starred FABRIC doesn't exist that's where the problem lies

[empty barn]

Cotton Seed is worth 30g each.

[gray veldt]

Well so it does? Where did I get 20 from?

I’ve been selling cotton with out converting it. Oops. I could of swarm it was 20

[shell fern]

Does anyone have a 100% water retain pre apple/blueberries layout for a 9x9? I have tons of potato and cotton if that helps? Thank you

[rocky vessel]

How do we get speedygrow feertilizer?

[dusty kayak]

these in glow worm farm mostly

[rocky vessel]

Oh is it the green one without logo ?

[dusty kayak]

correct

[rocky vessel]

Alright thank you 😄

[shell fern]

Thank you so much!!!

[viscid sedge]

Is it necessary to put down fertilizer each cycle? Or will once do?

It doesn't stop you from accidentally dropping fertilizer in spots that already have it too, so that's unfortunate.

[dusty kayak]

they growth tick at 6 am and need fert to have proper effect each time

but you can stack upon them the same fert so it can absorb every growth tick

you can take your fert back by placing 1 different fert

[viscid sedge]

Ah, so you do need to do it each tick for it to work to the fullest.

Is there a chart out there for how many growth ticks each plant has?

[dusty kayak]

it would be how many days it takes to grow, not sure if theres a chart 🤔 there might be one somewhere
the wiki or paliapedia should mention it on each crops pages though

[weary copper]

Does anyone know how to make water fertilizer?

[vernal bluff]

You can’t make it, only buy from Zeki

[weary copper]

Aww dang. Ok thanks!

[clear kindle]

it's like 40 gold for 20 fertilizer or something like that

[silent iron]

You know what, the glow worms might bring me onto team apple. I'm always running out.

[trim axle]

Can someone share their thoughts on this yt video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF5y0z5OfME&t=640s

[whole anchor]

So I just spent some time maximizing apples while still making ingredients. I think it's pretty apple focused but balanced.

[dusty kayak]

Lol

[lone cypress]

Ooo I have been looking for what I wanna try and I think this is it. I want everything but also a focus on apples and seems you've managed it pretty well

[wary finch]

to me it looks like converting a relaxing casual game into a grinding one by no good reason. Palia is unlike other MMOs and imo requires to be played with a different mind set in order to enjoy it long term. His place is a mess, it looks nothing like home, it has no palian vibe.

[rocky vessel]

Hey, if I pick up a seed with the hoe, will I have it back or is it lost?

[vernal bluff]

You won’t have it back

[rocky vessel]

alright thank you!

[rocky vessel]

Are thre somehwere examples of layouts? I am trying to do a good layout for apple and blueberry

I made this, but am somehow not satisfied

[charred bone]

What is the best resource to use to grow glow worms that would yield a lot more glow worms and fertiliser?

[wary finch]

this should resolve all of your worm farm related questions https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tr5KdvomPxOsA93HC9S7vDdP_bnffWifpwwQPCectdg/edit#gid=0

[tight urchin]

arranged my crops in a circle for easy watering = middle plot apple/blueberry/chili...

[rocky vessel]

I am still trying to figure out of to start my garden with apple and blueberries. Not sure if I should focus on Water Retain or quality increase

[whole anchor]

this looks really nice, but do you get any bonses on growth?

[tight urchin]

I am over 150 gardening so all is "star" everything else if its lacking is controlled with fertilizer but most everything is water retention, harvest boost, weed resistant....there are only a few spots to contend with

this garden keeps up with all 5 of my fertilizer worm farms and 9 preserve jar barrels

[gray veldt]

Revamped my farm a bit to supply me with materials for shepherds pie and other ingredients. No apples but I survive just fine on blueberry jam for my worm farm. Just gotta go spice and chappa hunting every now and then……
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CPT.WOWCrPCrB-PR.HPCOCBP.HB-T.WPCCrWOBCrP-TOBR.HCTTOB-BTBP.HC.WP.HBTB-BOTTCR.HBOT-PCrBOWCrCPT.W-BP.HBCOCPR.HP-BCrPCrWOT.WPC

Still makes me a little passive money in seeds as well.

[scenic cape]

Ok I am struggling to figure out w good layout for hit peppers. Just unlocked them so still don’t have apples or blueberries. Right now I have a layout pre-all of that with 100% water retain and want to try to keep that method but grow some peppers as well? Anyone have a layout for that?

[gray veldt]

You can use the one above and switch peppers instead of blueberries

Then when you get blueberries you can just put 2 in and have both. Assuming you want the crops and aren’t in it just for money

[scenic cape]

Thank you!

I didn’t even think about that heh I’m dumb!

[dusty kayak]

If youve had a blueberry before you can request them to make a blueberry seed
You can randomly get a blueberry from some things

[gray veldt]

It’s still early. I drop like 20 weed preventions at a time on the 5 crops. Growth fert isn’t required but I have it so I use it when I’m on my plot, you can also just stack like 10 and walk away. It’s a waste but makes it more AFK style. I keep enough seeds for what I need to for the next harvest and sell the rest. Blueberries and potatoes(or chilies in your case) get pickled. Jam goes to the glow worms. Potatoes to regular worms. Extra jam if I have it after a stack of 30 gets sold. Only time I really run thin is if I go on a long haul for fish/bugs/ore

[rocky vessel]

I ended up with this.
Looks bad, but works well. I was aiming 100% harvest and water, I have it. With apples and blueberries.

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-RWTPTPTRW-PTPRWRPTP-TWRPTPWRT-RBBWBBTPT-AAAAAAAAA-BBRBBWTPT-PRWBBTBBR-RWRPTPWRW-WRPTBBRBB

[whole anchor]

Waiting for morning to water before exploring

[lucid furnace]

Leaving a field fallow

[high helm]

Is there another way to get fruit other than leveling up gardening and buying apple/blueberry seeds?

[wary finch]

I actually switched back from water retention to weed prevention, which makes more sense with my 10 blueberry bushes and 1 apple tree garden, because I have to water about 1/3 of the garden anyway every day, because my support crop grows that quickly. So there is no real benefit in water retention and I wasn't amused dealing with several weeds every day. So now I'm happy again.

[clear kindle]

level 3 friendship quests with badruu (blueberry), nai'o and zeki (both apple seeds). you can also pray to rng-sus to get lucky to get an apple seed from the lucky coin machine

[acoustic bough]

Level up enough and you can make your own seeds

[wary finch]

ok, I have no potatoes anymore in my garden, but I made around 2000+ quality upgrade fertilizer, which should last until hitting level 50 gardening, currently I'm level 31.

[dusty kayak]

You can also request more fruit if yoube had the croo before then seed maker it lol

Wow i can type

[wary finch]

I used pickled potatoes in a normal worm farm due to their high fertilizer yield.

[gray veldt]

OMG! I didn’t go far enough down the list to see the picked potatoes! I’ve been using blueberry jam. Time redo things and go back to pickling potatoes for food and putting into my worm farm.

[flint ice]

Idk how to get this out the ground without breaking it.

[acoustic laurel]

Tile the square like normal. You'll get the item

[rocky spruce]

do tomatoes only have x amount of yeilds before dying or are they permanent producers once mature?

[acoustic laurel]

Every crop with multi harvest can be harvested 4 times

[rocky spruce]

thank ye

[dry spire]

is there any way to keep track when to harvest or water our garden?

[acoustic laurel]

Water/growth happens every in game time at 6am. No way to track in game but iirc the game does tell you how long they take to grow if you hover over them in your inv

[dry spire]

Thank you!

[lucid furnace]

yep, the seed packets tell you to the timings 🙂 after a while ( depending on how you play ) you will start recognising which ones will be next to harvest

[dry spire]

Got it! thanks! 😄

I used to plant 'all tomatoes' but now I am trying other layout ~ dunno if it will generate more money for me/ keep preserve jars, seed makers going without downtime

I got this layout from this thread~

[flint ice]

Thanks

[jolly shell]

Hello everyone, what layout can you recommend me for min-maxing gardening exp gain?

[gray veldt]

Was messing with the money potential of my layout for when I start working on the house and have a good worm and food stock pile. $3200 a day…. Not bad

Without having apples either.

[jovial jay]

Anyone have a good starter layout? No blueberries or apples yet ):

[vernal pagoda]

How many soil do you currently have?

[lime summit]

I have 9 plots which i think is max right, but all I use them for is tomatoes. I'm fine watering every morning so I don't feel like I need to add the water boosting crops, but is there a more effiecent layout than just all-tomatoes?

Can't seem to make the oodles of money that the game requires. Maybe I'm doing something wrong

[clear kindle]

for a while i did tomatoes and potatoes, alternating so that they kept the water retain, then seed and pickle everything (star crops for seeds for replant and sell and everything else for preserve jars

with morels in my glow worm farm, i would put the harvest boost fertilizer on them and i would have more than enough to keep everything going

[jovial jay]

6 :<

[distant crescent]

This is what I’ve been using. Can’t remember who originally posted it on reddit but it works no matter how much soil you have. https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111_CROPS-COCPTPRCrR-OCOTPTCrRCr-COCPTPRCrR-COCPTPWCrW-OCOTPTCrWCr-COCPTPWCrW

[jovial jay]

Thankyou so much! ❤️

[lime summit]

Does this layout produce more money than just tomatoes on every tile? Or is this more for the ease of not having to water and weed?

[distant crescent]

To be honest, I’m still kind of new to all this. When I found this layout it was something that was easy for me to plant and not have to focus on gardening so much.

That being said, give me a hot couple of minutes and I can get you some numbers from the garden planner that compares this layout as a 9x9 to just straight tomatoes in a 9x9.

[wheat terrace]

Adding the harvest boost bonus and the star bonus can both boost income beyond what a pure tomato crop would do. If you are okay with weeding and watering then simply adding a few rice or wheat to boost how much each neighboring tomato plant makes would be worth it.

Pure tomato.

[distant crescent]

This is the alternating layout 9x9: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-COCPTPRWR-OCOTPTWRW-COCPTPRWR-COCPTPRWR-OCOTPTWRW-COCPTPRWR-COCPTPRWR-OCOTPTWRW-COCPTPRWR

[lime summit]

I was playing around with the planner and it seems all tomatoes makes a little more money. I was trying to find a good layout to include rice to harvest boost my tomatoes but haven't found a good way to do it. When I was looking at your layout, all I could think about was how annoying the replant must be with all the various crops. Assuming you're turning them into seeds yourself and not buying them to save money, that seems like a pain in the butt LOL.
I'm currently in the process of converting my whole field to star quality tomatoes and turning those star tomatoes into pickled tomatoes. I'm still really new as well and the gardening is a litttle overwhelming so I don't really know what is good and what isn't. I think your layout would take a whole lot more prep to get a full star quality field while also micromanaging what to turn into seeds, what to preserve, and what to sell. Maybe in the fiture I'll try to tackle something as complex as that LOL

[wheat terrace]

Just the minimum of wheat added.

[distant crescent]

Thank you 😅

[lime summit]

Yeah I tried this layout, but I don't like how many tomatoes aren't boosted so i was trying to find a funky layout to boost them all while preserving the amount of tomatoes planted

[wheat terrace]

I'm not high enough level to confirm but I think it was level 25 gardening mixed with planting a star seed crop makes it 100% star crop when harvested? I keep seeing that indicated at least.

Last one, this one gives over 1k over the basic wheat one though ti would require you to get the pattern down.

[lime summit]

Yeah, I keep coming back to this one. I feel like I could somehow squeeze more tomatoes but I'm probably going to go with this layout haha. THanks for assisting with it @wheat terrace

If I plant the wheat, will the wheat give the bonus if it's fully grown and I don't harvest it?

[distant crescent]

Definitely making my own seeds, haha. I like having all the options for cooking purposes so it’s not as bad.

I originally was planting everything in little groups like you would in Harvest Moon or Stardew, but then I realized the plants were boosting each other and switched to rows. Rows may suit you better?

The alternating isn’t so bad if you add the seeds in plant order on your hotbar.

[wheat terrace]

No idea on this bit.

[lime summit]

Right now I'm doing a 2 x 4 with my last plot being for cooking purposes. Probably going to be switching to a 3 x 3 to do that layout posted above

[distant crescent]

I did read in the gardening guide on the planner site that you can leave them unharvested and they’ll still boost.

[distant crescent]

Are you focusing solely on tomato because it’s the highest $ return?

Now that I have all of the seeds I switched my layout to this: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-PTPBBSpBBSp-CCrWSpPTSpOC-CrWCrPTPOCO-WRWPTPCOC-AAAAAAAAA-WRWPTPCOC-RCoRPTPCOC-CoRCoTPTOCO-RCoRPTPCOC

It’s a bit more complicated now 😅 I’ve been only harvesting a crop at a time and replanting just so I don’t have to keep referring to the layout.

[lime summit]

I have no idea what I'm doing tbh LOL. I took the Stardew approach and bought the more expensive seed assuming a higher payout. I also like being able to harvest them a few times as compared to harvesting and then replanting

[distant crescent]

My previous farming sim experience has indeed failed me in this game 😂

[lime summit]

I wish we could have more plots in the game

[clear kindle]

i would love more plots

[dusty kayak]

Probably will get more when more of the crops ||already existing in the game files|| come out

[wheat terrace]

Might I suggest this slight change to the top? You lose weed protection on the peppers, but it gives 100% water retention at a loss of ~180 gold from the overall harvest.

[distant crescent]

Hmm that’s actually not a bad idea 🤔

I’ve been using the hydrate pro fertilizer on the Apple tree

[wheat terrace]

Side effect from refusing to upgrade my farm equipment is water retention is my mandatory stat on crops. 😛

[distant crescent]

I actually prioritized upgrading my water can to fine because of that and now I hardly use it 🙃

[proud cedar]

When gardening pays off

[wheat terrace]

But how many preserve stations do you have to run to make all that?

[proud cedar]

@wheat terrace I think i got like 13, but they still cant keep up with my setup

In case any high levels want to make some money, here is my farm. Really easy layout with 5k+ day

[wheat terrace]

The lack of water retention drives me away, but neat to see something other then a 3x3 plot layout.

[proud cedar]

@wheat terrace Yeah, that's the only downside 😄

[wheat terrace]

Hit to the profits, and no fertilizer, but I could see myself going with this one for being fairly hands off. Would need to be ready to switch it out when i need more cotton though...

[astral gull]

nah fr same

[dusty anchor]

How did you get this to fit your web page? My Harvest Approximations box is covering over some of the interative plots.

[hard mortar]

Got a low resolution or zoomed in? You can hit F12 and choose the device emulation to "enlarge" your rendered browser screen dynamically

[dusty anchor]

Interesting. I checked res and zoom, to no avail. I'll try this. I'm using Firefox on Ubuntu.

[wheat terrace]

What resolution do you use on your monitor? I run on a 2k monitor, but don't even have the browser fullscreen.

[dusty anchor]

I'm running a 1080 at 16:9. The page still seems scrunched though.

[wheat terrace]

That is interesting. Do you have a different browser you can try? That looks like the browser is defaulting to a particular width of the content...

Does it do the same on other web pages?

[hard mortar]

Open F12 and you can try running this JS in the inspector/console document.getElementsByClassName("lg:px-12")[1].style.width = "1440px"

[proven flume]

Is there a upgrade for seed collector?

[hard mortar]

Nope

[dusty anchor]

No such element used in the browser. I did fix it to tolerable by changing the padding of the site to 0rem. I guess i need a new monitor. And yeah, @wheat terrace , it's Firefox restricting pixel displays. No other site so far is having this overlap though. Thanks for the help.

[hard mortar]

🤷 try duckduckgo browser?

[dusty anchor]

I might. I need a new browser anyway. Can't rely on just one.

[gaunt geyser]

All crops will do that. I did a run test today with my new layout (I'm level 8, barely started playing the game). Instead of harvesting the cotton (the only seed with 5 day grow), I left it there with one wheat. Both of them kept giving me the boost

[wary finch]

so speedgro fertilizer, I want to clarify if I got it right - description says, for every 2 days of growth there is a bonus day of growth. Does this mean, that an apple tree speed boosted has it's first harvest after 8 days and thereafter can be harvested 3 times every other day?

it should be a 50% increase in revenue compared to the unboosted apple tree, because you can plant 3 times boosted and just twice unboosted.

minus fertilizer costs ofc.

[prisma crest]

do you just sell all the produce, or do you turn it into jam/pickles?

[gloomy olive]

Stupid question but based on time offline how long would normal crop progress go

I was told before that no matter how long offline you only get 1 day progression when you log in but alot of forums are claiming up to 3 days progression

[acoustic laurel]

Just one day of progression when you log in.

[gloomy olive]

Ty 🙂

[quaint sparrow]

Anyone have a good farm layout that doesn't include blueberries? I have every crop except them and I want to change my layout, but all the layouts I've seen have blueberries

[dusty kayak]

Replace the bluberries with peppers

Takes the same space

[quaint sparrow]

You're a genius
Thank you

[round jacinth]

can anyone explain how fertilizer works? I am a bit confused about harvest boost fert. Do I only need one per crop for it to get the bonus, or do I need one for every cycle, so like 4 fertalizers for a crop that takes 4 days?

[dusty kayak]

Every growth cycle or you'll have minimal effects

You can stack like up to 99 on each crop so lol keep that in mind

[tulip prairie]

I made a tomato and apple tree farm. let me know what you guys think!

[dusty kayak]

You can get 5 apple trees in there since youre not quality boosting

[tulip prairie]

would i loose out on tomatoes tho

[dusty kayak]

But i guess thatd be less tomatoes

Yeah

[tulip prairie]

how many less you think? kus if its not tooo many less might be worth it

[dusty kayak]

Not enough less to make cooking any more difficult i make tomato soup for focus and i always have enough tomatoes

Heres a couple 5 tree layouts i use

[tulip prairie]

i like my tomatoes to keep my glow worm farms goin

[dusty kayak]

Apple jam in those makes 3 if you wanted more glow worms

[tulip prairie]

hmm okay

[dusty kayak]

In fact selling the output from apple jam in glow worms is slightly more then the apple jam by its self

So you could glow worm it all and keep a hefty stock of glow worms and be selling a lot of them too

(Though regular worm farms output is even slightly better then glow worms but both are still better then jam alone)

This doc has output information
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tr5KdvomPxOsA93HC9S7vDdP_bnffWifpwwQPCectdg/edit#gid=0

[tulip prairie]

so you would reccomend having 5 apple trees instead of the amount of tomatoes i have to keep my glow worm farms going

[dusty kayak]

Yeah your glow worm output will be tons

[tulip prairie]

wouldnt 6 apple trees be better then?

[dusty kayak]

The harvest boost

Unless you want to water the field every day haha

[tulip prairie]

what about this one sec

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-TAATAATAA-ARAARAARA-AATAATAAT-TAATAATAA-ARAARAARA-AATAATAAT-TAATAATAA-ARAARAARA-AATAATAAT

[dusty kayak]

With that you'd be watering every day

But if you wanted to sure

[pseudo tendon]

And weeding

[dusty kayak]

Weeding is fine
More gold lol

[tulip prairie]

true but if i dont need the tomatoes i dont have to

[pseudo tendon]

Hahaha 😂

[tulip prairie]

kus my apples with be the glow worms i need

[dusty kayak]

If you subtract any buff id usually reccomend it be weed prevention or water retention but always at least be harvest boosting the essentials
Which in this case is the trees

So if you know what you're in for then by all means hahaha

I prefer 100% water retention while harvest boosting the trees myself but thats me

[tulip prairie]

hmm okay do you pick those other plants or just leave them for the boosts?

[dusty kayak]

I always replant to have faster output instead of waiting but that's me

[tulip prairie]

okay perfect. i will experiment ty for you help!

[smoky stratus]

Does anybody know if we will eventually get more plots for gardening? I really hope we are able to get more plots in the future as gardening is one of my favorite things to do.

[pseudo tendon]

Lol if we get more plots then gardening will be op and s6 definitely don't want that

[dusty kayak]

There are TONS OF ||CROPS|| THAT ||ARE IN THE GAME FILES||

so my theory is once it is needed we will be able to expand

They've increased decor limit once they've added a decor related function so i expect similar increases to things with caps

[smoky stratus]

Haha, very true. Thanks for the insight I really hope they do and add a ton more crops!

[brazen patio]

Biggest money makers growing?

[gusty vessel]

do apple trees stay after harvest?

[wheat terrace]

Tossing this here for reference.

And the non standard layout makes more...lovely...

Hmm, I suppose it may be an option for some that want smaller plots to be able to scatter around their property.

[neat storm]

After reading through the thread, I used your ideas and came up with this, my goal is to have the ingredients I need, make it simple and not have to water anything.

[sick yew]

Is harvesting the only action that grants gardening EXP?

[primal notch]

Yes

[wary finch]

don't be that averse to hydrate your crops with your can. Soon you'll have an exquisite can, which hydrates up to 8 spots in parallel, so hydrating your crops is not as cumbersome as you think it would be.

how much you actually make from farming depends a lot on what amount of gaming time you have available. With just a handful of hours per week farming might not be the best choice, but if you play a lot, farming is a good choice, especially combined with passive 24/7 operating seeders, preserve jars and worm farms.

Now I want bees, honey and mead production, cattle, pigs, sheep and lambs, to make use of all the space on our plots.

[frail escarp]

Mead Production

[wary finch]

and while we are at it, spirits, even this could be a problem in a game with minors

[frail escarp]

We'll rename it to "Flow-Infused Drinks"

POTIONS

[dusty kayak]

Very nice!!

[wary finch]

honey infused by flow-tree blossom/nectar, or any kind of ancient tree, like Tasmanian leatherwood honey from these ancient leatherwood trees, which can be up to 100m tall and live for centuries.

[valid plume]

I wanna switch to a 5 apple tree layout. but sadly have a lot of seeds from other old layout. like hot paprika and blueberries I actually dont need than. what to do with left over seeds?
and what if I need blueberries or hot pepper for weekly wants or quest etc?

[wary finch]

blueberry jam is not as efficient as apple jam in a glow worm farm, but not too bad as well.

I run mine mostly with blueberry jam, because I have just 1 apple tree, but 10 berry bushes.

[dusty kayak]

if i need a crop for something and don't have it i request it LOL

though right now i have enough money coming in I felt like it was time to use iron storage to hoard some ingredients so I'm running all ingredient layout right now

[valid plume]

my iron is almost full xD

actually a lots seeds. which I dont need with changing layout. I mean, changing gardening layout takes time and its annoying

[valid plume]

haha ok. mostly request not working. ^^"

[hybrid pivot]

Can someone post me one of those 100k yield farm layouts?

[dusty kayak]

yeah i only plan to hoard crops one time for a long period of time so i just dont have to worry about it for a while and go back to my money making stuff
i have no idea how iron storage can get full im only running at about half LOL
try not to have too much fiber or regular wood or flint maybe? /gen

and at some point you can sell some seeds but still keep an inventory for balance

[karmic marten]

For GW farms what is good to put in and how many?

[empty scaffold]

Glow Worm & Normal Worm Bins are set toward the selling price of every Fruit, Vegetable, and Pickled, or Jam, Jelly & Preserves, also Cooked Dish and Grilled Dish. This calculator shows the sum of each item, all you must do is add in the Sale Amount in the Value Slot. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bzVmbZegVsvpAyIGNgN6P2tCUTScCfY326I9Kf0b_RU/edit#gid=482922545

[dusty kayak]

best doc ever ^

[empty scaffold]

Also, a heads up! Fish are Fruit
It's not about the Dish, It's about the Fish

[pearl epoch]

GUYS, I just figured out you get more money when you turn your regular apples into seeds and then sell them! 10 regular apples go for I think 640 gold. 10 apples turned into seeds go for 700!! 🤯

[bitter tundra]

long term though isn't jam a better use of the apples in terms of profit?

cuz you only need 1 apple per jam, and it takes less time than seeds

if I'm doing my math right here, you get only a 90 dollar profit from turning 10 star apples into 1 star seed, but you get 480 profit if you turn those same 10 star apples into star jams

[azure prairie]

Jamming is more profit than seeding for everything you can jam except potatoes, iirc.

Turning the jam into worms is another gain, but nowhere near as large as jamming is.

[bitter tundra]

Are blueberry seeds worth making for profit? someone told me to make seeds instead of jam for them

[azure prairie]

4 blueberry jams @ 88 each = 352
-vs-
2 blueberry seeds @ 168 each = 336
Eta: these are star numbers, but the ratios are equal for normal quality crops

[bitter tundra]

ah so jam is the way to go for both of them

[wary finch]

even to pickle potatoes has it's use, as food in a normal worm farm it creates a hell of a lot fertilizer.

[hybrid pivot]

Anyone have a more profitable scheme?

[icy summit]

@hybrid pivot Here are the pre and post 25 layouts I use. They aren't more profitable but they are 100% watered so you only have to water when you replant

[bitter tundra]

does the harvest boost fertilizer work on apple trees and blueberries?

and when is the best time to place fertilizer in general?

because most of the time it just resets, though I have 1 square that has kept its fertilizer for like a week now lol (or at least it keeps showing that it has it)

[icy summit]

It does though it takes as much fertilizer as tiles it takes up. I don't know how long one fertilizer lasts, but it lasts for a while. From what I can tell you can also stack fertilizer on one square and make it last longer. One way to check this is to put a different fertilizer on the plant and it will give you back the fertilizer that was stacked on that tile.

If anyone knows, does fertilizer give you an extra boost on top of the plant given boosts? For example in my layouts above, would putting harvest fertilizer on those crops do anything?

[daring pagoda]

i need 2 make some $ any lay auts that work well 4 dis

im lvl 40 farming

what bring the most $ atm

[azure prairie]

You can't stack a fertilizer with the same boost a plant gives it. Eg, if something already has a harvest boost from wheat, applying harvest fertilizer won't do anything. But, the fertilizer won't be consumed. It'll just sit there politely until you exchange it with another useful fertilizer or it loses the boost from plants

[icy summit]

That's what I thought, but didn't know the fertilizer wouldn't be consumed

[ionic compass]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-O.WA.HA.HT.HpA.HA.HO.WA.HA.H-A.HT.HpA.HA.HO.WA.HA.HT.HpA.H-A.HA.HO.WA.HA.HT.HpA.HA.HO.W-T.HpA.HA.HO.WA.HA.HT.HpA.HA.H-A.HO.WA.HA.HT.HpA.HA.HO.WA.H-A.HA.HT.HpA.HA.HO.WA.HA.HT.Hp-O.WA.HA.HT.HpA.HA.HO.WA.HA.H-A.HT.HpA.HA.HO.WA.HA.HT.HpA.H-A.HA.HO.WA.HA.HT.HpA.HA.HO.W
any good?

[daring pagoda]

is this any good <>?

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-PTPTBBPBB-WPWRPRWPW-PTPBBTBBP-AAAAAAAAA-RPRWPWRPR-AAAAAAAAA-PBBTBBPTP-WPWRPRWPW-BBPBBTPTP

[ionic compass]

looks better than mine 🙂

but you have to maintain it

[daring pagoda]

and dis 1 then >?

[ionic compass]

as you don't have weed and water prevention

[daring pagoda]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-PRPTWPPRT-TRTPWPPRP-PRPPWTTRP-PRPTWTPRP-AAAAAAAAA-PRPRWTPRP-PRTTWPPRP-PRPPWPTRT-TRPPWTPRP

je i dont mind the weet and watering

i mainly farm rest is 2 4 me

• weed u can sell 2

[gray veldt]

Alternate potato tomato down the middle for water buff unless you need potatoes

[gray veldt]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-PTPTBBPBB-WPWRTRWPW-PTPBBTBBP-AAAAAAAAA-RPRPTPRPR-AAAAAAAAA-PBBTBBPTP-WPWRTRWPW-BBPBBTPTP

[daring pagoda]

tx

[gray veldt]

Stole this from a guy above, pickle everything and seed Everything. About the most money you can make I believe https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11111-11110_CROPS-B.HB.HB.HB.HB.HB.HAAA-B.HB.HB.HB.HB.HB.HAAA-B.HB.HB.HB.HB.HB.HAAA-B.HB.HB.HB.HB.HB.HAAA-BBRBBCrRCrR-AAAAAARCrR-AAAAAARCrR-AAAAAARCrR-AAAAAARCrR

[rocky vessel]

Does the "growth boost" from apple/blueberry give the same as the fertilizer Speedygrow?

[jolly shell]

yes and they dont stack @rocky vessel

[rocky vessel]

Thank you
And is the "quality boost" from cotton useful, or once lvl X with starred crops it becomes useless?

[jolly shell]

@rocky vessel it becomes useless at lvl 25 with star quality seeds

prior lvl 25 u can use quality boost of any kind and it will have some benefit

[upper mist]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-TW.SCP.SROCo.STP-TW.SSpPCrSpBBA-SpT.HOSpPRAACr-RCrWPAATAA-BBAACo.HpAABB-AATAAPWCrR-CrAARPSpOT.HSp-ABBSpCrPSpW.ST-PTCo.SORP.SCW.ST

My newest creation, growthboost fert to make sure every crop grows at the same rate, only slot that needs water is the middle one (or harvestboost fert if you don't mind watering it daily, you have to come back to weed it anyway), then you could also add growthboost fertilizer to the onions but crops only growing for 3 days don't need it anyway so apart from that no fertilizer needed!

For max profit throw everything in the preserving jar except potatoes, the rest through the seedcollector before selling.

[rocky vessel]

Great, thank you for the answer, I'll use some cotton for now. Will chage again the layout post 25. I feel like I change my layout every 3 days.. xD

Does there a layout exist where it has 100% harvest, growth and quality boost?

[upper mist]

Heya stan! I thought you might find this interesting ^^

[rocky vessel]

This is amazing! Ty

[upper mist]

No problem, have fun gardening 😄

also if you don't have a star quality seed before level 25 gardening you can use either quality up fertilizer or cotton/spicy pepper adjacency for the same result

[rocky vessel]

I am more at the not fun part right now, trying to find my best layout haha. Been on it since days. Can't be satisfied.
Sometimes I feel like I want watering boost, sometimes I feel it's useless because I can just water 9 at once with my can

Only thing I know is that I want to grow apples, blueberries, wheat, corn and rice. And that I want only 100% boosts 🤣 I feel stressed when I do a layout and end up with a boost at 98%

[upper mist]

Oh I know the feeling 😂

[rocky vessel]

tbh, I don't really want to grow blueberries, only apples. But only blueberries can give growth boost to apples 🤣

[upper mist]

Haha very true, also growthboost fertilizer but yeah, that can surely get a bit expensive 😄 but to be fair, blueberries are under growthboost one of the more profitable crops!

so it's not that bad after all to have them 😄

[rocky vessel]

Yea, but it's sooo difficult to make a layout.

Oh and another question. If a plant is fully grown, but I don't gather it and keep it fully grown. Does it still give it's boost ?

[upper mist]

I can see if I can give it a swing, you want apple/blueberry/wheat/corn and rice, and you don't mind watering and weeding your garden daily?

[upper mist]

as far as I know, it totally should! But things have been slightly wonky lately so I can't promise a 100% foolproof right now

[rocky vessel]

I don't mind watering and weeding because I can't have both at the same time.
If I could grow rice,corn,wheat,apple and blueberries AND have 100% water&weed I'd take it. But I never achieved to do it, and have only one of both is useless to me

I don't know if you get my point, but if I need anyways to check my garden every in game day to water or weed it, then I just prefer do both. Water & weed cuz it takes no time and I don't end up with plants I don't know what to do with just because I didn't water it

[upper mist]

so, you can basically have both if you work with fertilizer too! But yeah if you want all 100% boosts through only adjacency, that might make things slightly complicated

[rocky vessel]

Never used fertilizer. May be I should get used to them one day. And how to make enough of them to sustain without paying

[upper mist]

You can only craft quality up fertilizer, harvestboost fertilizer and growthboost fertilizer, and you can only buy weedblock and hydrate pro fertilizer at zeki's, so if you want to have water or weedblock through fertilizer its going to cost money yeah. I usually give priority to some crop or boost I find most important and go from there. But if it's either/or for you, a layout with just the crops you mentioned + you watering and weeding the garden yourself, it's completely possible!

[dusty kayak]

ARENVANYA THE MYTH THE LEGEND

everyone listen to arenvanya senpai master of gardening

[rocky vessel]

Yea I really don't mind watering and weeding

But I still can't do a good layout xD, but I think I know why too. I dunno how to say it, but when things doesn't look symetric, it stresses me out. I feel lost in my garden.
Yea I know, I've a lot of problem. That's also why I am on it for days now haha

[upper mist]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CrAAWAARAA-ACrWABBABB-RWCrAAAAAA-BBWBBRAAA-AAAAAAAAA-AAABBCrBBW-AAAAAACrWR-RWABBABBA-AARAAWAACr

I made a quick idea of one of my old layouts with exactly the crops you said, with 100% boosts. You could in fact switch out a few corn/rice/wheat in some spaces if you would need different crops as well for cooking but this is the general idea! it's almost symmetric haha!

[rocky vessel]

oh dang

This looks great, ty for it, ima do very few adjustments and it might be something for me !

[upper mist]

I'm curious to see your adjustments, do with it what you please 😄 happy to help!

[rocky vessel]

didn't realize I could put that many apples and blueberries together and still keep space for my ingredients (corn, wheat, rice)

[upper mist]

Yeah this is one of my personal favorites, made it with inspiration from @restive portal back in the day 😄 Still one of my quick go-to's 😄

[rocky vessel]

Kinda amazing tbh

Again thanks

[upper mist]

You're welcome, hope it brings you a lot of gardening joy 😄

[rocky vessel]

And another question, not directly related to gardening but still.
I see when I click on H that I can have "new plots". Can I have several gardens? Or is it just a "layout" but it stays the same garden. Not sure to understand

[upper mist]

you can have several housing layers! but unfortunately the cap for gardeningplots is still only 9 max!

[dusty kayak]

Arenvanya can I show you my layout doc XD

[upper mist]

sure 😄

[rocky vessel]

Thank you for clarifying !

[dusty kayak]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GyPgetnBlxypFaYzvGSyhGPntXnpMxsm_q8zvXYHEqg/edit#heading=h.4rn3fsx0rkaz

[upper mist]

Ohh they look great Sen Aka! 😄 I especially like that extra one 😄 Great work! 😄 ( the lazy one )

[dusty kayak]

That's my favorite, it's by @valid plank !!

it's genius in design I love it

[upper mist]

Yeah it's so creative 😄

I also like the starter ones with the tomato/wheat/cotton, balanced nicely really well for early game 😄

it's so symmetric 💓

[dusty kayak]

[rocky vessel]

I just adjusted the mirroring, to make it perfect. But now the question is. From which seed I should do 8 and which 6 and 6.
Might need to calculate the profit and compare rice/wheat/corn to know whichj one is more profitable and I should have 8 of it and the 2 other 6

[upper mist]

Oh hey that looks good! 😄

Nice work 😄

[rocky vessel]

I did nothing! it's yours, just switched 1-2 things

[upper mist]

picture 1 = 8 wheat,
picture 2 = 8 rice,
picture 3 = 8 corn

but this is without growthboost at least, this calculator still misses a variable

but at least it gives a general idea

with growthboost the estimate is also that rice is the better one

[rocky vessel]

That was fast

Then I guess I should go for 8 rices, thank you a lot for helping out this much

[upper mist]

You're welcome 😄 happy to make fellow gardeners feel at home in Palia 😄

[rocky vessel]

I really appreciate this game, and the community is always so helpful. Glad I discovered it ! My wife likes it too

[wicked holly]

What's the best farm layout if you don't have access to apples and bloobs yet?

Don't have hot peppers either

[rocky vessel]

The gdoc that Sen linked a bit before looks pretty amazing for beginners tbh, should take a look

[wicked holly]

Heck yeah, thank you!

[rocky vessel]

r.i.p me. I totally forgot I have to gather spicy pepper too xD.
But I'll just replace 1 spot of blueberry with a spicy pepper. Keeping 100% harvest boost (most important to me) and I'll accept the 93% growth boost instead of 100. hahaha

[upper mist]

If you want some more inspiration my guide also has a few examples if you scroll down a bit! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bjqQGwzhW7wsIpSDoO3xCMwqbX7ZbsdsuuXmPEXCrjE/edit?usp=sharing

[wicked holly]

I have severe dyscalculia and unfortunately can't read the ones that use the numbers very well, but I appreciate it nonetheless 💛

[rocky vessel]

I began gardening with your guide. Helps a lot to understand it all. I didn't realize the importance of bonus and how they exactly work before reading it

[upper mist]

Oh I was already planning on remaking them soon with the app from Aisen, here's another reason why I absolutely should haha!

[upper mist]

Oh noes that's unfortunate indeed haha!! Well at least it will stay nicely symmetric with this setup if you do that 💚

[rocky vessel]

Yea it stays allright, i'll just use fertilizer on theapples who lost their growth boost. I guess it shouldn't be that much of a pain to produce them

[upper mist]

to be able to produce growthboost fertilizer you need the glowworm farm you can buy from Einar's guildstore, so you need to level your fishing for that! But it's certainly doable!

[rocky vessel]

I do already have them, was only focusing on doing glowworms tho, so I might even have already some fertilizer somewhere

[upper mist]

ohh then it's indeed certainly doable! 😄

[wicked holly]

How to remove a misplaced crop

[rocky vessel]

Use your Hoe and right click on pc, probably X on switch

You'll lose it tho

[dusty kayak]

zr to till, x to kill
is how I remember which is which for switch lol

speaking like dr seuss over here

[wise ruin]

hi all, so I was harvesting blueberries (for cooking with mainly), but now I'm wondering...if I don't use it for harvesting, what is blueberries good for? Are they even necessary to have in a garden?

i know they aren't that valuable, and I even sell extras as jam.

I don't see it being profitable, and I don't see myself cooking with it.

[dusty kayak]

Profit wise id seed em and sell em xD

But i only grow them to keep them for cooking temporarily
Get a good stock
Then focus more on money making methods

[wise ruin]

if I should just use them to sell as seeds, how many bushes would you recommend? I'm currently using 4 bushes, but thinking about making a garden focused more on Apple Trees.

[dusty kayak]

You could probably manage 4 trees and 3 bushes with full water retention
I have a layout thats 4 trees and 4 pushes but you water the middle square to water the bushes (if your watering can is upgraded to be able to do that of course)

that being said it harvest boosts the trees so you COULD do this with full water retention without harvest boost
or you could balance it with fertilizer for one job or the other etc etc

[wise ruin]

fortunately, I have a way to easily get infinite harvest boost fertilizer. I feed my Glow Worm Farm regular tomatoes.

[dusty kayak]

Valid lol

[wise ruin]

i kind of still want to have spicy peppers in my garden. I like cooking Phoenixfire Relleno.

[dusty kayak]

so in theory? lol

[nova yoke]

Thus is what I'm currently rocking (sometimes changing carrots and onions around), it's not the most profitable but it's to prevent weeds and keeping everything hydrated so I can just use normal harvest boosting fertilizer

Apples into jam, onions for cooking
Tomatoes for fertilizer (or whatever else I decide) and... Carrots to look pretty and make sure everything is weed free.

[wise ruin]

i could see myself making a layout like this when I reach Gardening level 25. Currently 21.

[acoustic laurel]

Anyone want to give feedback on my garden? I want to keep the water retention and weed prevention and at least one of every crop - cotton can go if it has to. Not concerned about quality but i'd be nice to increase the other two

[wary finch]

rice is especially good in combination with blueberries, if you want to quickly level your gardening skill. Rice can be harvested very frequently in between blueberry boost, it sells well and boosts the harvest amount of your blueberries as well. So very good for levelling whilst generating decent profits at the same time.

[scenic cape]

omg starting to get soooooo mad...they need to put something in game so I can dig this crap up...This carrot has now been growing for ten in game days and still hasn't matured

i just need it out of the way so that I can make my field better

[acoustic laurel]

X on switch or Right mouse on PC with your hoe lets you dig up crops. They only grow when you're online but if you are online and they're not growing then its a bug that should be reported

[acoustic laurel]

Thanks, I'm sure I'll have to move my garden around a bit to keep the weed prevention and water tho

[scenic cape]

omg you are my hero I will give you everything...legit you just made my day

[acoustic laurel]

yay! glad i could help!

[quaint blaze]

this is what I'm messing with right now. Still jigsawing @_@ and I figure I can put harvest boost where I don't have

[rare echo]

How many time does apple tree yield?

[slow flame]

4 times

[rare echo]

many thanks

[supple scroll]

it's all comin together...

[valid plume]

when I have a 100% water layout. can weed be a reason, that I have to water after login in?

[rocky vessel]

I don't think so, but would need confirmation. As far as I know, weed only prevents the seed from growing more, it stops it's growth but shouldn't delete the bonus

[valid plume]

after wartering again, i checked if every plant has water retain & it has. so I dont know the problem

[heady panther]

Now that I have apple seeds unlocked, I wanted a layout with all the crops and focus on water retention first, weed prevention second

I am pretty happy with it, but sure it can be better, does anyone have a good layout with all the crops?

[heady panther]

Thank you!

It would be nice to pin some of these layouts so we could find them easily

We could pin several for different purposes: early game, profit, water retain

[dusty kayak]

If it sat there for a growth tick or 2 then I've noticed yes you need to re water

[upper mist]

it's a little wonky at the moment so yeah it can happen sometimes!!

I also notice it sometimes after I haven't imidiately harvested a ready crop but left it for another day

[dusty kayak]

yeah same, sometimes you dunno if it's expected or from wonk

thats why i wasnt sure if grown crops eventually stop buffing or not cause sometimes the game is weird when I check 🤔

[upper mist]

expect a little wonk here and there

[valid plume]

But I check Garden before Loggin Off. Everything was watered etc. Than logging in and some Missing water.

I read, only one palia day can happen when you Log off.

[dusty kayak]

sounds like wonk XD

im probably not helping the WONK by putting stuff in my fields lol

[valid plume]

What you Put there except Pumpkins xD

Looks Like Mole entries xD

[dusty kayak]

ah there's leaf piles

and a couple plants

and the moonstruck lantern thingy

i like using leaf piles to look like mulch

[lofty sandal]

Where do you get leaf piles?

[dusty kayak]

the holiday shop behind jels where you buy snow and christmas presents

[reef lichen]

Got my first apple seed, thanks again for the nai'whatshisnames tip ^^ @dusty kayak
now i gotta figure a build thats easy xD with apples xD

[graceful jay]

I am looking to make my garden built for 2 goals: glow worms and profit. I do not care about water retention or anything like that. What is the best set up to pickle for glowworms and most profitable? Thanks in advance!

[dusty kayak]

apple jam would possibly be your priority then

[graceful jay]

Oooo this is helpful. So apples and apple jam absolutely. But apple trees take up so much space so ideas on regular veggies that are best for just profit?

[dusty kayak]

using tomatoes and potatoes for water retention also just give a lot of extra cash

i pickle tomatoes and seed potatoes myself, especially if your preserve jars are full of apples theres no room for potatoes lol

[graceful jay]

Is there a chart on profivilitu for veg/jarred veg/ and seeds?

[dusty kayak]

paliatracker has a gold profit comparison!

https://www.paliatracker.com/gold-profit

[graceful jay]

Where do I find that? Sorry, I'm new

[dusty kayak]

im too fast for you

[dusty kayak]

right here haha

[opaque marsh]

Where is this from? 😄

[dusty kayak]

look up a crop, click to drop down menu

[dusty kayak]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app

[opaque marsh]

Thank you!! 🌟

[dusty kayak]

i link to a bunch of fanmade helpful resources in the pins in #🐣│palia-newbies i recomend checking them out they're game changers :)

[valid plume]

cute idea 😄

[gloomy ibex]

I totally didn’t realize that your crops don’t grow when you’re away from the game, so what’s the point of water retention? It doesn’t take much time for me to go water my crops and crops don’t die, right?

[acoustic laurel]

It grows once when you're offline. If you're online you'll have to go back to your plot every hour to water or they won't grow

[dusty kayak]

!crops

[compact coral]

Badruu

Why aren't my crops growing?

Crops can only grow up to 1 stage per Palian Day as long as your online. Keep that in mind!

[gloomy ibex]

Oooooh okay. That makes more sense.

[dusty kayak]

ok so far i have not had it be wonky, and the harvest boost has stayed while wheat/rice is grown fully

[pearl epoch]

Yeah I just got the thing that makes jams so now the seeds are obsolete, lol

[dusty kayak]

i wrote down the gold comparisons between use of 10 apples (note: this is not to reflect on gold per hour)

[valid plank]

Best Sen on the market

[dusty kayak]

[gloomy ibex]

I’m thinking of having two different gardens (9 plots really isn’t enough…) so that I can have “food” for cooking in one and jar preserves in another. I haven’t unlocked apples or blueberries yet. Jar preserves don’t even give me that much money, honestly. It’s like it turns a regular crop to a star crop price-wise.

[daring pagoda]

tool 4 making laiaut https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-TAATAATAA-ARAARAARA-AATAATAAT-TAATAATAA-ARAARAARA-AATAATAAT-TAATAATAA-ARAARAARA-AATAATAAT

[supple scroll]

does leaving a crop unharvested still give out their inherent buffs?

was planning on leaving low value crops unharvested just for their buffs because it's a hassle to replant them, and just concentrate on replanting and harvesting the cash crop exclusively. is this a viable way to garden?

[dusty kayak]

as far as ive seen yes unless the game gets wonky, ive been testing it recently

[dusty kayak]

^

[supple scroll]

nice. thanks!

[wheat terrace]

So now we just need them to give us "Flower" versions for each boost so we can have nice looking permanent plants to buff the surrounding spots. 😛

[supple scroll]

i just want a garden hose so i can water them plants without movin around too much

[bronze geyser]

A quick question, if I put a star vege such as star grade carrot in a Preserves Jar, would it produce star grade pickled carrots?

[round jacinth]

can anyone put me on a good early/mid game farm layout that is easy to maintain but also makes decent gold (without apples or blueberries as I dont have yet). I dont mind picking weeds but ideally id have 100% water retention

[lone cypress]

We can buy stuff there?!

[tardy talon]

event items go there! 😄

[distant crescent]

I found this on Reddit and used it for most of mid/early gardening. The gold is ok but it’s 100% water retention.

Link if you want to customize: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111_CROPS-COCPTPRCrR-OCOTPTCrRCr-COCPTPRCrR-COCPTPWCrW-OCOTPTCrWCr-COCPTPWCrW

[clear kindle]

i just did rows of potatoes and tomatoes for solid water retention

[lone cypress]

Stahp I've been playing daily for a month and I have never noticed this cash register.

[distant crescent]

I just found it last week 😂

[tardy talon]

it is EXTREMELY easy to miss haha

[dusty kayak]

dont forget milk's awesome layouttt

[clear kindle]

the crafting writs. is that per plot (so i can have 31 on each of the housing slots) or is it shared between everything?

[maiden glen]

shared

[bold nebula]

Unlocked land, and cleared rocks/trees are universal across any number of housing slots.

[clear kindle]

but like the crafters, the worm bins and such, are those also universal across the slots

[bold nebula]

It's basically a transmog slot to let you build multiple designs of house and swap between them. You don't have to expend additional writs to unlock land, but you also don't get any additional crafting or storage

[maiden glen]

yes its 30 max

[bold nebula]

Like, you get 30 max crafters, not 30 per housing slot, and you can't build more than 8 storage chests no matter which housing slots they're in etc.

[slow flame]

Anyone have layout for Blueberry Apple late game, need so much for celebration cake hahaha

[zealous granite]

um, is it normal for crop plots to just ...shift?

[tardy talon]

i have this happen every once in a while

[acoustic laurel]

It's a visual bug. If you water it should shift back

[zealous granite]

alright good, never had this one crop up till now heh

...heh unintentional pun

[bronze geyser]

Sharing my “lazy farmer” layout 👩‍🌾

[limpid siren]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-TCRPOTBBP-CrTOCPSpOWSp-CPTSpRCSpCrO-BBWCrCOTPT-AAAAAAAAA-TPTOCCoCoBB-OTSpCWSpPTC-SpRTSpCOOPT-PBBCPCCoTO

Garden with all crops and:
100% water retention
100% weed prevention
33% growth boost
44% harvest boost
38% quality increase

Took me hours to figure out, hope it helps someone

[foggy grove]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-OPTCCoOTPR-WWCCPOOTW-POCrTCPCrOT-WCRTOTPCCr-CoCoCPOPCoCT-OPCoWTCCPO-CrPOOTCCPCr-PRRTCPROT-OTCrWCTROP

Pre-blueberry/apple/pepper.

[terse tulip]

anyone has one with every crop except blueberry and 100 water and weed? i do have apple and pepper but no blueberry yet

[remote prairie]

what did you use to make it look like a flower bed around the leaf piles? I can't find anything in the database that looks like that.

[limpid siren]

Change the blueberry bushes out in mine for pepper bushes, then it will work to your specifications 😊

[terse tulip]

Thanks!

[thorn fox]

Best item to put in glow worm farm to get the most Harvest Boost? 👀

[nova yoke]

Tomatoes probably,
However apple pies in the regular worm farm gives 30 I think.

Tomatoes give 4 and potatoes give 6.

At least from what I can find here,

[thorn fox]

Celebration cakes it is 😅 thank you!

[nova yoke]

Apple pies are my go to food for worm farms and for traveling/gathering due to how easy they are to mass produce

[thorn fox]

I go to cake parties like it’s a job so I have way more celebration cakes atm than apple pies lol

[dusty kayak]

There's a bunch of tiny plants
The little tulip looking plant the succulent pot and other tiny plants

Oh you mean the edging???

Sorry i just woke up

The edging was bugged in a bit ago then patched out but i made it already

[valid plume]

my garden is again wonky. not watered apple tree again. really sad

[wise ruin]

Hi all, I’m trying to figure out the best garden layout for making Celebration Cakes 🎂

Does anyone know any good layouts?

Btw, I have star ⭐️ quality apple and blueberry seeds.

I also enjoy making Phoenixfire Relleno. If I’m able to fit ingredients for that into the garden as well, that would be ideal, but not necessary.

Basically, I want to make a garden that can make (ideally) a recipe that has the highest value in terms of gold.

Ofc, if there’s a more valuable recipe to make (that is worth more in terms of value or quantity), I would not be opposed to that 😁

Note: I post in here because this is focused on my garden layout in order to cook a meal that can make the most money (whether it’s in terms of quantity or quality).

[wraith citrus]

Hello,

Is there anything you can put in the regular worm farm to get harvest boost? I saw the above but it sounds like that's for glow worm farm.

Thank you.

[acoustic laurel]

It only comes from the glow worm farm or you can buy it with skill coins

[wary finch]

what I'm missing is kind of a decorative flower garden. It wouldn't have to be sellable flowers or anything commercial, but more like flower patches, which I could arrange after my liking and make my home in Palia into a respectable residence - not just inside, but as well outside.

Well, I'm kind of unhappy, that none of those additional housing plots is actually "virgin", but is as cleared from trees, bushes and scrub as the default one. So what I did, is create a new character, where I try to not make the same mistakes again -but I will continue posting with this character here on discord

[dusty kayak]

you can see what comes from what and how much here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tr5KdvomPxOsA93HC9S7vDdP_bnffWifpwwQPCectdg/edit#gid=0

[wary finch]

and well, a garden bench, where one could actually sit on would be nice to have as well.

There are a bunch of furniture pieces in Palia, which have no practical use, stools, beds, benches, why aren't they actually working furniture pieces?

[wary finch]

yeah, I still like starred potatoes and pickled starred potatoes in normal worm farms, it helps getting a new character quickly going

[wraith citrus]

Thanks.

I wish sweetleaf was a bit easier to collect.

Not really sure what i want to do. I can sustain about 6 worm farms. But i can barely keep up with collectin sweetleaf for green poo for my glowworm...i use this on my apples.

Maybe i should just focus on the quantity boost and let the apple trees mature at regular speed.

[dusty kayak]

i had like 160 in storage XD for cake baking

honestly i just pick up everything as i see it whenever possible, pick more stuff and you get more spawns of stuff

[wraith citrus]

I feel cursed. Sometimes i get so much sweetleaf. Other times its like pulling teeth to get even 10.

Those danged morels are prolific though 😓

[solemn narwhal]

Hello there! Wondering if anyone knows the best pattern to produce quality star onion and corn? I’d appreciate the help figuring it out. I need to produce asap (2) onions and (3) corn quality star ⭐️ for a quest.

[scenic cape]

Anyone have a layout for a 100% stay watered with only one apple tree? Got one seed from a quest and would love to start making seeds to get to some of the other layouts I see.

[wraith citrus]

Put cotton in. And put onion & corn n s e w cords. to get quality buff.

[dull gull]

how many farm plots do you have? Any other crops you want? I can try to whip one up for you

[dull gull]

Try just server jumping around, find one where it's not all been picked and it should give quite a lot

[scenic cape]

I have the 9x9 and not really, just trying to get to apples and blueberries (just have the one apple seed). Other than that just going for pure profit:)

[dull gull]

Here's my first attempt: Cotton can be replace with the tomato/potato pattern but included it so for your first tree you can get those star quality apples to get star seeds next time

Requirements:
1 apple seed
100% water retain

[scenic cape]

Thank you @dull gull

[wraith citrus]

I'll give that a try.

[ionic compass]

Hi gardeners! I've just launched a garden layout generator on Paliapedia. More crops and features are on the way. Any feedback is more than welcome. Happy gardening! 🌱
https://paliapedia.com/tools/garden

[gloomy ibex]

How does fertilizer work? Does it get used up every day or does it only get used once I harvest? Because I have quality fertilizer down and if it gets used up every day, why don’t I just wait until the crop is about ready to harvest before applying it? And obviously for like “water retaining” fertilizer I can get why that would get used every day.

This is my current garden.

[echo hedge]

aaahhhh, I hadn't played in a few days, and didn't check on crops. I don't even recognise the pattern my crops are in anymore

[acoustic laurel]

It gets used every day at 6am. Not sure if all fert works this way but for quality: if the crop takes 4 days to grow but you only put 1 stack of fert on it then it only has a 1/4 chance to be ⭐. You can stack fert up to 99.

[gloomy ibex]

So if I use four stacks, I’ll have a 4/4 (100%) chance to have a quality crop…?

[acoustic laurel]

I believe so. Someone correct me or I'm wrong. If you're harvesting something like tomatoes where the crop gives multiples it might not make all of them starred

[royal sundial]

This apple one was exactly what I came on here to try and find. Thank you so much!!

[tame hinge]

Anyone got a good water retain layout for blueberry +apple

[acoustic laurel]

#🌱│gardening message
Or
#🌱│gardening message

[lone horizon]

New tool has been added to Paliapedia that generates optimized layouts!

• https://paliapedia.com/tools/garden

More crops and tuning features will be added with time. The Pen icon redirects you to Aisen's Palia Garden Planner with the Layout it generated for you. Lastly, you can hover over each crop to see its details (where to get it from, value, etc).

[clear kindle]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-T.HP.HT.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-P.HT.HA.HB.HB.HA.HB.HB.HA.H-A.HA.HT.HA.HA.HP.HA.HA.HT.H-A.HA.HA.HB.HB.HT.HB.HB.HP.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-T.HB.HB.HP.HB.HB.HA.HA.HA.H-T.HA.HA.HP.HA.HA.HT.HA.HA.H-A.HB.HB.HA.HB.HB.HA.HT.HP.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HT.HP.HT.H

i have no idea how to make that show just the picture instead of the link

[willow void]

What's a good layout for making money?

[frosty ginkgo]

With Apple Trees, do they have to be in soil or no?

[valid plank]

No complete layout is better than another. It depends on how many crafters you have, how often you log in, etc.

[valid plank]

Yes they take up a 3x3 area.

[frosty ginkgo]

Wish we would buy like more soil plots so I can use the 9 for regular crops.

[nova yoke]

Go to the bottom and hit "export"

This may be my future layout,
With the X being for crops I need more of, like wheat or corn or smth.
So it can remain fully automated regardless of what's changed. (Then of course changing fertilizer however I need, I only need the weed prevention for the center ones, as I can't figure out a way around it.

[fleet hamlet]

Layout Purpose: Easy Crop Production including Peppers & all single tile crops.

Messing with some layouts, here's a first go for an AFK farm w/ quad pepper and all 1 square plants. Grains suffer a little in quantity and under half harvest boost but 75% quality coverage. Center potato can be replaced with any harvest boost (grain) plant for a little extra.
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-PTPOSpSpCSpSp-OCORTCoWPCo-PTPSpSpOSpSpC-PCoCoTCPPCrW-OCOTPTOCO-WCrPPCTCoCoP-CSpSpOSpSpPTP-CoPRCoTCrOCO-SpSpCSpSpOPTP

[nova yoke]

It didn't even register to me that I didn't need all 3 in a row for the full water retention to take place.

[fleet hamlet]

Layout Purpose: Easy Crop Production including Peppers & all single tile crops.

And another AFK with all single space crops running only 2 pepper plants but 80%+ harvest boost and just over 40% quality boost coverage. Slightly worse weed prevention but not much. Same thing with the center square, use for whichever crop you want.
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CrTCOPSpCCrSp-OPTSpRCrSpCoP-COCrWPTCoCrC-TRCoPWOOCrP-TOTPWPTOT-PROOWPCoCrT-CRCoTPWCrOC-PCoSpCrWSpTPO-SpWCSpPOCTCr

[nova yoke]

If you're looking for a fully automated pepper plant farm, I created this monstrosity.

[fleet hamlet]

Intention was just to create an all planted (up to peppers) farm, being aimed more at newer players to help with crop production.

[nova yoke]

Oh apologies. Well this now exists too

[fleet hamlet]

No worries, I should've made more clear what they were intended for. Working on a 2x Pepper 2x Berry alternate to the 4x pepper layout I already did. I can put them next to each other for the bonuses so it gives some other options.

[nova yoke]

Well now I figured out everything but a way to include the peppers and blue berries. Bleh

The center only has 4 instead of 5, but it's a sacrifice since I don't like rice 🥺

[wary finch]

Rice is good at start imo, when you don't have a real purpose for your harvest other than selling and creating starred seeds from your starred produce. Rice paired with tomatoes and potatoes, the latter are for an easy start into worm farming and fertilizer creation. At first with starred potatoes, later on with pickled potatoes; at least that's what I did. Once you have blueberries, rice is again very useful as rapidly growing crop in between those blueberry bushes, can be harvested very frequently and generate experience quickly.

[nova yoke]

I just focused on water retention and weed prevention for automation. I didn't really know what the other stuff did in the beginning

[wary finch]

I found it interesting, Miste, because it's a different approach for a different play style. It certainly has it's merits too.

There is no best for all play styles, just personal best imo.

Like a 3x3 layout is most likely the best, but I prefer my 2 rows with 4 and 5 plots, nicely integrated in a forest clearing surrounded by beautiful trees, bushes and scrub.

[fleet hamlet]

I would instead...
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CrTCOPWCCrCo-OPTCrCoCrPCO-COCrWPTCoCrC-TROPCoCORP-TOTWRWTPT-PROCCoPORT-CWCoTPWCrOC-COPCrCoCrPTO-CoWCWPOCTCr

[wary finch]

the open corner section in my 4 and 5 plot layout in 2 rows will house the well later on, it will simply be beautiful.

[nova yoke]

My OCD cries out in pain,
I require patterns, regardless of my suffering. My style is so it's just easy to repeat (for the most part)

[wary finch]

yeah, my layout looks somewhat chaotic, but I really enjoy it.

10 blueberry bushes, 1 apple tree

[fleet hamlet]

Aside from the center plot, the rest is a windmill pattern.

[wary finch]

I'm more or less redoing it with another character, from scratch, simply because I was unhappy with having cleared out all the scrub and bushes. This time, I maintain most of it and keep it's forest vibe. My house will as well be smaller and more integrated into this forest.

Doing it again has it's merits, I pay a lot more attention to the villagers and what they are saying, which makes me somewhat worried about Tish, I think, she isn't well at all.

[fleet hamlet]

This is the closest I've gotten to a decent 2x Berry 2x Pepper plot. Only downside if you'll need hydro for the center square and probably want quality up for the peppers.
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-POTTCoWCCoCr-PRCrCOTSp.QSp.QP-CTPCoCoOCrWT-WTPROBPCB-Sp.QSp.QBBR.HpBBSp.QSp.Q-BCPBORPTW-TWCrOCoCoPTC-PSp.QSp.QTOCCrRP-CrCoCWCoTTOP

[wary finch]

I'm a hefty fertilizer user, which comes with certain achievements and guild points as well.

[fleet hamlet]

Plenty of fertilizer usable on that one, specifically weed prevention, harvest boost, or quality increase. Not needed besides the hyrdo but I still recommend the quality up on the peppers.

[wary finch]

with my first character I went back to weed prevention not caring about hydro at all, I water it anyway in the morning.

Well, my apple tree has water retention, the rest hasn't.

my new character has water retention due to a first focus on tomatoes, potatoes, rice and cotton, but this will change later.

well. 7am in Palia. back to playing.

[supple scroll]

buy blueberrie seeds with medals, or save enough and go straight for apple seeds?

[burnt seal]

you can get apple & blueberry seeds too by

spoiler: ||friendship level 3 quest from certain characters||

[supple scroll]

worth it spoiler. which ones?

[burnt seal]

||Badruu and Naio||

[supple scroll]

yeah im close enuf

guess whether i save medals or gather gifts and talk to them, will take about the same amount of time

[sand escarp]

Hey, guys. How do the mechanics of plant growth work? They don't grow at night when i log out of the game and log in in the morning in real life? Sometimes it's grown in the morning, and sometimes it's like it never grew. What is correct?

[burnt seal]

crops only grow 1 stage when you log off

[sand escarp]

uh, get it. thank you

[bronze geyser]

3 lazy gardening layout .

• Lazy blueberry farm
• Lazy blueberry and Spicy pepper farm
• Lazy blueberry and Apple farm. ( growth boost on both Apple and blueberry)
  🫡

Most of the layout follows the rule of laying out tomato > potato > onions > carrots in order all around the edges to make sure they all get water retention and weed prevention.

Using fertiliser would be advised tho

[lilac wind]

hey I'm looking for some good 6x6 layouts folks use. I've been using the IGN one. also I like 6x6 because I've kept my homestead "natural" and don't have room for 9x9 haha

[prime mirage]

Hey I'm looking the lazy cake party layout folks use thank you

[dusty kayak]

so i tried fiddling around
does this help?

weedblocked the big and important stuff, the fruit

[prime mirage]

OK thank you

I search the old chat see this, I use this

[dusty kayak]

thats A LOT of fert that you can only buy from the store

kind of cuts into the profit from cake baking doesnt it

[vernal bluff]

I just use the five trees layout and sometimes place pepper and blueberries there + speedy grow on apples, works well ahahahah

[dusty kayak]

honestly 5 tree layout my beloved, just pick the weeds lol

[vernal bluff]

True, it’s the best ahahah, works so well, not so much work and u always have apples

[nimble vortex]

I made this layout a decent time ago but I still enjoy it a lot

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-O.WTPA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-COPB.HB.HA.HB.HB.HA.H-TO.WTA.HA.HPA.HA.HC-A.HA.HA.HCOB.STPB.S-T.WP.WA.HB.ST.WPB.SR.HO.W-A.HA.HOB.HB.HPB.HB.HT-PCOSp.HSp.HPSp.HSp.HC-Cr.HA.HA.HTA.HA.HOA.HA.H-A.HOCA.HTCo.HA.HP.WCo.W

I flicked some decor into it and use it as markers for big trees and for dif fertilizer, so I don't have to check it every time

[dusty kayak]

marking the plots is smart dang, also thats pretty good use of fert you don't have to always buy

[nimble vortex]

Thanks 🥰Yea at first I was like I don't wanna use weedblock fertilizer at all cause I don't wanna leave my plot that often xD but since I do pile everyday I be like fine, will do a lil

Also it's never enough space in the storage and speedboost and harvest boost ferts we can store inside worm farms, so I preferably use these two

[wise ruin]

Quick question: in the garden planner, is the raw average the average amount of gold you make every in-game day?

[craggy river]

hey all! apples VS blueberries, which one gives more cash?

[wise ruin]

Apples

[craggy river]

even if apples take more then twice the time to grow up?

i assume that with 6 crops i can get over 30/40 apples 🤔

with harvest boosters ofc

[echo hedge]

THANK YOU so much! I've been struggling with an apple and blueberry layout that has 100% water and weeds.

thank you, merci, "c'est chouette"

[wise ruin]

Yes, it depends on how much patience you have. You can either wait to get way more money from apples than what blueberries could ever give you, or you could do something else.

To my knowledge, blueberries are only good for cake parties.

[craggy river]

well in my pattern i don't care much about the time, i have the red peppers that gives a lot of cash while being pretty fast, i'll go for apples then 😄 might as well use the speedgro 🤔

[wise ruin]

Harvest boost is recommended (unless you have wheat and rice to give it harvest boost)

[craggy river]

i use a wheat/corn combo

[wise ruin]

That works too

[craggy river]

will we ever get more then 9 soils?

[echo hedge]

I hope so. It's a struggle to plan

[wise ruin]

Lol Palia is only in Beta phase, so anything is possible. Depends on what Singularity 6 decides to do.

[echo hedge]

but I can only imagine them adding more in the distant future, as there's a lot more they will probably want to add. Hopefully more recipes rubs hands

it would also be cool if they added more crop, bush and tree types as well

[craggy river]

this is my layout btw, for sure it's something unconventional lol
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11-11-11-11-10_CROPS-SpSpCrSpSpWBBCr-SpSpPSpSpPBBP-BBWSpSpCrSpSpW-BBPSpSpPSpSpP-BBCrBBWSpSpCr-BBPBBPSpSpP-SpSpWBBCrBBW-SpSpPBBPBBP-SpSpCrSpSpWCrWCr

[wise ruin]

I kind of hope they add Japanese-themed stuff (besides the Dragontide stuff and the Majiri Market event) 👀 like imagine being able to hunt animals with a katana and having your speed boosted to keep up with them…I’m addicted to Japanese stuff.

[wise ruin]

Unfortunately, it has things that don’t need to be there and you will be watering a lot before you can harvest.

Every time the crops need to be watered, it disrupts when you can harvest.

[craggy river]

yes, i don't mind watering though, it's about 6k of revenuew per harvest

[echo hedge]

I want halloween, spooky, dark, gothic themed things. Like if they had pumpkins (cliche, I know). The ravenwood furniture is my absolute favourite though. I wish I had enough resources to have my entire plot ravenwood themed

[wise ruin]

Lol you have a lot of patience, kudos to you. I would personally invest in Water Retain and Harvest Boost (making them 100%).

[echo hedge]

I'm hoping the current furniture has like iron fences and gates, or custom colour to make something like that (eg. black fencing). I want a spooky garden

[craggy river]

hahahaha it's my chill moment of the day so i take my time

[echo hedge]

that's why I try to make 100% weed proof and 100% water plans. My current crops are a mess with planning, because I got an apple tree, so there's constantly weeds, and it drives me mad.

[wise ruin]

I believe there’s something you can buy from the Furniture Guild store that lets you change the color of anything that says “Customization”

[wise ruin]

Lol whatever works for you.

[echo hedge]

yeah, I just need to play around with all the furniture pieces to check it out 🙂

[craggy river]

yes you can change the color of fornitures, there's the bench and you can then buy the customization kit

lol

[wise ruin]

Weeds = extra money though 👀

[echo hedge]

not all the furniture can be colour changed. Which is sad, but makes sense

[wise ruin]

True

[echo hedge]

extra effort though lol. I want to shove my crops into jars and seed maker, then go catch bugs lol

[wise ruin]

Fair enough. But with the limit of soil, having Weed Prevention can lead to sacrificing a crop buff that is the most efficient.

[echo hedge]

which is why I try to crop plan without needing fertilizer

[nova yoke]

Yeah I wish the fertilizer lasted for longer ~^~

[vernal bluff]

I only fertilize apples and stuck the fertilizers

Fertilizing small crops is too much work ahahah

[wise ruin]

And not really worth it lol personal opinion

[vernal bluff]

True

[nova yoke]

I usually just get a stack of harvest boost and spam it,
Never hurts really since any excess crops just go back into the farm.

[wise ruin]

True, I tend to get lots of extra tomatoes that I feed to my Glow Worm Farm.

[dusty kayak]

apples are totally the highest money maker crop

though im curious about comparing it to the dirty rice strat XD

but apples take a while to grow but they produce in huge bunches

and harvest boosting them makes even more

[echo hedge]

perhaps, but can you.....

boil them, mash them, stick em in a stew?

[nova yoke]

I just turn the regular apples into apple pies,
Apple pies for the glow worms, and to be the main food I eat when going out on adventure. I just don't have a lot of wheat at the moment.

Then just jam all the starred apples I get, and sell them for the profit.

[solid current]

Where's the best area to find spice sprouts?

[acoustic laurel]

Around the family farm and mirror ponds going towards the house

[solid current]

thanks

[upper mist]

Applejam produces the most profit vs rice seeds - what is the dirty rice strat?

[upper mist]

they are indeed, but just by a tiny smidge

[dusty kayak]

oh lord dirty rice LOL others know more about it then me XD but ill search back in chat a bit real fast

[upper mist]

haha this hilarious 😂

[dusty kayak]

are you aware of weed plot strats

[upper mist]

I was not! it's so smart 😄

[dusty kayak]

sometimes i want to just have 8 apple trees and 1 weed plot to just water trees and move on cause replanting is getting tiring for me past level 70

[upper mist]

I love the look from the appletrees as well, I hope we'll get more trees down the line

[upper mist]

wait im lying, cotton is also really good

[dusty kayak]

starred cotton do go kinda hard

[clear kindle]

what's the weed plot strat?

[dusty kayak]

make all weeds on 1 useless plot, weed free other 8

• may cause wonkyness depending on Palia's mood

[upper mist]

well, uh, I guess that's not only with the weedplot strat

[upper mist]

Just the other day I had to delete one of my potatoes and wheat because they had stopped growing after 2 days while the rest was already harvestable, even the ones that weren't next to a growthboost x)

[dusty kayak]

LOL

sometimes weedplotting makes things grow in REVERSE

[nova yoke]

Apparently jam potatoes sell for 104 each, more than an apple.

[dusty kayak]

correct

[upper mist]

correct indeed, but it's not only about the price of the endproduct

[dusty kayak]

comparison of different uses for 10 apples

• does not account for gold PER HOUR

[nova yoke]

I'm going to eat your hat.

But yeah

[upper mist]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YV_LiHp48shNifWakdZtOI9j6_IqQI0A7dRdr28lHNY/edit?usp=sharing

Math ^

[dusty kayak]

arenvanya has done much gardening math but looking at gold per hour hurts my head

[upper mist]

ikr I made it and still it gives me headache when I look at it now

but there's 2 columns that jump out in importance

[dusty kayak]

i tend to fill 12 preserve jars and 7 worm farms when i wake up and before i go to bed
making 20k each time, so 40k a day roughly
it's slow but its consistant XD

[upper mist]

(no growthboost, only starquality crops and full harvestboost)

[nova yoke]

My current go to is;

Jam the starred apples to sell,
Turn the unstarred apples into apple pies.
Turn the unstarred apple pies into fertilizer and keep the ones that do star as a snack for the trip around for more iron.

[dusty kayak]

i miss cooking exploit when i made x90 cakes and had a chuckle

i spend all my money on decor too so it was spent very fast XD especially at the zeki secret market

[upper mist]

• growthboost

but those blueberry seeds only take a short time to craft but a long time to grow so in the end it's better if you can grow other crops, that number is slightly misleading if you don't look at the other variables as well

but you could balance it out with some longcrafting crops like potatoes

but yeah in the end it pretty much balanced so you can grow whatever you like without feeling like you're loosing gold

[prisma crest]

I have a question about fertilizer. When is the best time to fertilize crops? Do they need to be fertilized the entire time growing or is one day enough?

[dusty kayak]

they absorb fert every day at 6 am when they have growth, you'll need to use it for every growth stage to have much effect

[prisma crest]

thanks!

[south night]

Hi! Does anyone happen to have a good layout for starting fruits? I just got my first apple and blueberry seed packets and I know I should plant them so I can turn some into more seeds but I'm not sure what the best method of planting them is ^-^'

[dusty kayak]

just make sure theyre harvest boosted really

yknow somethin like this

[south night]

Thanks!

[dusty kayak]

todays the day i set up the apple weed plot and face the consequences if my garden grows in reverse

[sterile vessel]

this is the loose format i stick to, found it on this reddit thread https://www.reddit.com/r/Palia/comments/16hnsvc/farm_layout_all_crops_including_new_crops_corn/

[dusty kayak]

Pretty nice

[haughty geyser]

is bluberry some thing you get from a mission?

[clear kindle]

you can get blueberry seeds from badruu completing his level 3 friendship quest, or you can buy them from the garden guild store after reaching level 10 gardening and saving the guild coins you get from completing weekly challenges

[dusty kayak]

Or if youve had a blueberry at one point you can request more and make a seed xD

[tulip prairie]

does anyone know of a good farm with peppers blueberries and apple trees with water retain and weed prevention

[rocky spruce]

Tired brain figured out the better way to export, oopsie lmao

[haughty geyser]

check thanks I just keep working on skill and friendship

[haughty geyser]

yea need 1 before requesting. so not jet...

[dusty kayak]

There's randomly one from a couple things
Rummage pile for instance can drop one

[haughty geyser]

rummage piles?

[dusty kayak]

Once a IRL day in Kilima is a pile you can check
It has a furniture set within it and misc items
Also currently has limited time holiday decor

https://palia.th.gl/en/rummage-pile

[haughty geyser]

oh its does stick piles? I found christmas things in... any way to figure out where it is... is it the same for all?

[dusty kayak]

Same for all
Only has 10 different locations possible to spawn it cycles through

Link above is location
It updates every day

[haughty geyser]

THANK

[still blade]

Does anyone know what's the most profitable crop to grow?

[wise ruin]

made this just now.

[still blade]

Oh, interesting. Thank you very much!

[wise ruin]

my pleasure! Apple btw is the most profitable (especially as jam).

[still blade]

I see. I'm afraid I don't have any apples as I started playing recently.

I'll try to farm some carrots alongside some rice in the meantime.

[wise ruin]

the strategy is have preserve jars.

Put all your apples (star quality that were harvested) into the jars.

Once per irl day, put all the apple jam into the shipping bin. I made 10,000 gold off of this.

[still blade]

Oh wow, that's quite a lot.

[wise ruin]

until you get apples, I recommend tomatoes as your main source of income 🙂

i can provide you with a garden layout using tomatoes as the money maker.

[still blade]

Should I plant rice/corn in between the tomato plants?

[still blade]

I'd really appreciate that. Thank you.

[wise ruin]

this is an option:

[still blade]

I'll try my best to do that. Thank you again!

[supple scroll]

Badruu when i do not place Onions or Carrots so I can farm Knapweed for an extra 10gold per.

[wise ruin]

without fertilizer

[wise ruin]

haha but it still works.

carrots and onions is an option if you want to never have weeds to sell.

[wise ruin]

if you want, I can make a layout for you that covers any of the 5 buffs that you want.

Growth Boost: Gives an additional harvest. Oddly enough, it makes it to where you get more money, and less quantity.

Harvest Boost: Every time you harvest, you get more copies of what you harvest than you would normally get.

Quality Increase: Increases the chances of getting more high quality crops (that you harvest).

Water Retain: Makes it to where you only have to water crops once (when you plant the crop and after you harvest the crop, then you need to water again).

Weed Prevention: Prevents weeds from growing.

however, I have yet to see a layout that provides 100% to all buffs.

[supple scroll]

i don't think that'd be possible. for a single-square crop, you only have 4 adjacent squares that can provide buffs. you'll have to choose at maximum, only 4 out of those 5.

2x2 crops may have 8 adjacent squares. but requires 2 buff-giving crops of each type adjacent to it. you run into the same 4-types only out of 5 problem

haven't gotten apples yet so no idea regarding it

[wise ruin]

agreed. tbh, I've only seen a layout with 3 at most maxed out.

[still blade]

I appreciate it. I'll try with the one you provided for now as I desperately need some money lol

[wise token]

how to get the glow worm farm box?

[wise ruin]

good luck! if you want a different layout (with different buffs), feel free to ask me 🙂