#💬│palia-general
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Well, switch will never be able to match a well built PC 🤷♂️ it's point is to be small and handheld, not super powerful
it's also an optimization issue. palia is just unoptimized in general
They make a keyboard that goes into the handheld
What the ssa for real!?
Can definately see the frustration... they could not rollback my progress when the game bugged on me and I ended up with Kenli as my Shepp.
Support said the only thing they could do was reset my account, which I was like hell no...
i dont play on switch often. what is it that makes the bugs harder to see? :0
Yes
Also requires spending money for a keyboard. For one game, that's free lol
True, but not everyone has those extra accessories for their system. They at least need to add in a few hotkey popular phrases, like "omw" for Switchers to use. Servers that have mostly Switchers on them are so quiet. Like ghost town quiet.
yeah since it released on steam i had these really weird stutters every so often. which never happened on the normal launcher unless it was on my old laptp
I've seen the controller with the keyboard but I really don't like playing with a controller. Is it an actual keyboard?
I feel they because just to cal put a flow free or a grove takes a good minute
Also, it doesnt change that the chat/ui is small and difficult to read. I'm not sure if it's been adjusted by then, but it's still small in general. even on PC i find it a bit tricky but that might be moreso a "me" thing. 🥲
idk i just cant see them until im right next to them
ive always had lag with palia, even with low graphics, despite being able to run triple A games at high
I think it’s a handheld dock station kinda I saw it once and went with USB because I primarily play with it docked
I'll have to check all the switch accessories when I get home lol
the lag recently has been worse imo. constant lag when cooking
yeah ive had some weird lag too. not to mention the loading screens come up. before they didnt when i finally got my new laptop, but new updates made them appear all over again
I don't lag at all. Just the damn deer disappear really.
Game froze again because I rotated the camera to see how many items they have in the room...
omg the animals glitch so much its insanity... ill be aiming, shoot and then BAM theyre suddenly gone and on the other side of the valley
unless they glitch into invisibility (which sometimes happens heh) i don't find them hard to see? though yea, if you're quite far away they don't show at all/not full
@sudden elm I dm’d a picture I googled in like 2 seconds
yeh i thought they were meant to have fixed the teleportation
Wait…you don’t love elder sernuk teleporting like disco all the time!!!
No cake for me lol
honestly i wish theyd hyper focus on fixing all of these issues before even thinking of adding more content and things to the game. it may be a beta and have not much content, but at some point you need to hunker down and squash as many bugs as possible to have the game be in a much smoother state before you can keep adding content onto it
I managed to take a screenshot of the room which was a bunch of large rooms attached to the harvest house without and walls or doorways. And probably every item that has ever existed in the game.
the twitch drops end tomorrow right?
but they keep ignoring that and adding stuff, breaking the game even MORE in the process...
Last wave starts tmr
Tonight wave 3 tomorrow
sorry meant to say wave 2 specifically
It was supposed to end tonight at 1150pm pdt but for some reason ended at 2am this morning
Yeah today is last day technically
There are currently no drops up rn
oh so it’s already ended that makes sense then
honestly i dont wanna bother with these twitch drops cause the timing is such a small window. its giving me massive FOMO vibes and im not partaking in it
Ohh
oh well 🥲🥲 I procrastinated so hard
i mean you would have gotten them if they were still up like they were supposed to be. Procrastination or not
true !
I was wondering why it wasn’t working earlier
Setting a timer and event in your phone/calendar helps a lot
They told me it's because there's a lot of people as if I haven't been to a ton of cake parties before lol
could you not just leave twitch up in the background? and continue doing your other thing. thats how i do it lol
you can!
Sames
Each twitch drop wave lasted a week. Not a single day. It was just a matter of sitting in someone's stream for the required length of time for all 3 drops. Much more generous time wise than a lot of twitch drops from other games
Pendragon what’s your IGN if you don’t mind putting it in here. Just wondering if I keep seeing you I. Bahari
thats what i do altho it's annoying when i find out they stopped streaming and i didnt realise lol
i mean i sleep through the streams and it counts, wake up and you get the stuff lol
Why
If you make twitch its own window with nothing else playing in that window you can mute it and leave it playing in the background
Just wondering if it’s you I keep seeing in Bahari
And it's just 3 hrs for the span of a week just like half an hour a day and you'd get all the items
I was told to leave volume at 1% so it counted as you being there. Muting cancelled the timer
It still feels like FOMO to some. And not everybody can have it running while theyre doing other stuff IRL. Some people dont want their PC to stay on or phone for twitch. Some people dont understand how twitch works as well or want to make an account.
And i mean, some people still missed out on the Pal Mat, cuz not everyone could of logged into Palia this weekend. I know there was at least 1 person who mentioned they wouldn't of been able to log in. And I know they wouldn't of been the only person.
It's me because I also keep seeing you lol
And just because it's "easier" to do than most, doesn't mean it's not FOMO.
Not to mention, future players who may start the game. They can't get it bc they weren't playing. It blows.
a week is a long time for me for sure which is why I got so complacent and procrastinated to the very end and ended up not getting the drops 😂 not too fussed about this week though
I have had 0 problems muting it. And i've been doing it for Palia, Genshin, Honkai Star Rail, Lost ark, etc. Lost ark had an 8 hour one this last round yesterday and i heard none of it 
yeh idky they made the pal cat mat log in reward period so short, i didnt see anything about it so i missed out lol
Disco sabotage lol always fighting each other
Yeah I dont do twitch at all, its not my jam, even though i'd love more items, I just cant bring myself to figure it out
Yep! I tried to bring it up to their attention, and Ashe said they made a note about it, but I haven't seen/heard about it since, sooo 😄
it was less than 3 full days, and yeh over the weekend but that doesnt really mean much...
Not really competitive people just get their shots in and then another spawns right away
Like i get their promise for "no fomo" was moreso for premium/cash shop stuff, but ... boy, does this still have FOMO in it w/ the twitch drops. I missed out on some cuz i didnt realize it was happening in the past. And some stuff I thought was going to be there perm., and not limited, so... 😄
Interesting. I still keep it at 1% volume if I'm not actively listening. I'm not a twitch user for the most part. I think these streams were maybe #10 or 12 ever. :P
Yeah, always see you though next time join the hunting team!
If you or anyone else needs some assistance with the twitch account and drops you can always DM me 
it's so hard to find disco deer rn tho. i found 3 (or 4 one was stuck in the wall) after using multiple horns... and that's if i manage to follow it until the end bc so many ppl are inconsiderate and dont flare the loot
twitch drops are extremely common to promote games, why would they not do them
I see no reason to not do it
Its more like I refuse to sign up for another anything. I understand cross platform promotion, but its just a medium i am not interested in participating in
I think I got an invite from someone last time
Possibly therealdrew
Twitch drops to me are fine. I just still hope they end up being re-added in the future-- the ones that have already been done and missed.
And the "login weekend" thing was way too short.
And either way. It's still FOMO 😄 . The fact I can't get those items again or even try to get them again, makse me feel incredibly sad. And then I feel bad for future players who'll see ppl have them, and not be able to get them bc it was... limited lol
its very anti-casual chill game to have twitch drops tbh - most people playing casual games aren't the type to go all in on games like joining discord or watching streams, many pop on for maybe an hour to play and log off.
@hushed patrol him and I have perfected disco extinction. We can keep him from teleporting and/or even taking 10 steps 99% of the time.
if there were other ways to get the items then it wouldn't be as big a deal, but they don't even have them in the zeki coins or as fishing drops. they're just "be here or cry about it" items
And this is honestly what pains me the most ngl. I wouldn't even mind if they were more in a rotation of twitch drops, honestly? Or some other ways. something.
Lol, I am still sad I missed an entire season worth of items, like christmas and the new years stuff, like, wall papers and pretty house stuff. I get that it's seasonal, but dang, I hope they re release some of it in the future
I know they mentioned they wanted to do that w/ the Maji Market when they first released it, how those will alwys show up .. so im assuming it'd be the same.
They're fine-ish to me too. I have an account there that I can sign into for drops, but I mute and ignore the streamer in a background tab. I'd rather play than watch, and honestly... not sure why we're not rewarded for play time in game for things like this. Why watch someone else play? That's boring imo. 
Don't get me started on their limited time event stuff. It's so weird to have a self-proclaimed beta game have limited time events when that time could be spent actually working on fixing bugs that have been around since closed beta or the like
Yeah, that's usually what I do when I realize it's around. And if I want to bother with it. But I also can't help but feel sad for the people who 1) don't understand twitch, 2) dont want to make an account, 3) don't even realize it's happening...
Being more rewarded for playtime in the game is def a better way imo yeah. not sure how it'd be done, but ya.
i LOVED the maji market event i cant wait for it to come back i look forward to it fr
yeh plus im not interested in seeing spoilers
I'm pretty sure they confirmed that seasonal items will be returning each year?
Indeed. I never understood the idea of watching someone else play a game unless it was for a tutorial or walkthrough or something. My kids are always wanting me to watch them. My reply is always, 'why? Why not find a game we can BOTH join and play together?' :P
I think the more views the more it gets pushed out to new viewers which creates more advertisement
some games i dont mind watchijg other ppl play like acnh but for palia id rather play the new content myself
Same. I only watch someone else play something if I'm looking for a how-to. Otherwise I'd rather just do it myself.
You would think they would want to give stuff for game time instead considering it would boost their playtime metrics which would look good to investors
palia is just really uninteresting to watch also. ill watch house decorating maybe but eh...
Frankly I dont want to watch other people play. I invent my own ways of having fun, because lets face it, the content is limited. For me, I did a 1000 arrows, 1000 sersuk, so server change challenge for myself last night and I just gave up halfway through because I got tiiiiired, but still, no one wants to watch other people tend their farm in a cozy game, you want to play it.
they always said that they might come back in the future
maybe they plan to give players a chance that joined later/missed them once they have all 4 palcat themed twitch drops completed, who knows
they never advertised the game as no fomo, only the premium store
It's just very FOMO that i just really don't like. 😄
Like, again, some stuff i didnt even realize was limited. Like the Froggy Outfit and the frog bucket. So I'm honestly really devastated I missed out. 😄
Plus, w/ the Froggy Outfit, not everyone has/had a switch to be able to get that.
yeah. ill watch someone to get an idea of a cozy farm but id like to make my own cozy farm design if i can
I think this is one of the reasons why their whole RNG system is flawed too. It's very anti-streamer, it's something we will easily burn out on. Very few people want to watch someone shoot arrows or fish for an hour - even as the streamer it gets tiring.
i like watching streamers so i love that they're doing twitch drops as an easy way to get cool limited (for now at least) time items 😄
hopefully they'll do them for all the palcat colors hehe
Didn't they get a special glider too? I don't have a Switch, but I liked that glider.
If you read up, I did say that I undersatnd they most likely meant "no fomo" with the cashshop 
And them saying "Might come back" doesn't mean anything to me, because that isn't straightforward or concrete. It's not actual confirmation haha
I admire people that took the time to figure out the garden configurations. I don't care all that much so I crammed some potatoes and apple trees in and I'm done :P
hahahaha yeah same here, I just smack stuff together "It's not much, but it's honest work"
Especially when we've seen them go back on their promises before.
why is the "no fomo" thing such a frequent mention? did they advertise palia with that phrase or smth?
i wish i could be bothered to decorate but im too lazy and its too difficult on switch
they did not, no, but ppl don't seem to like it in general bcs its limited stuff
It's similar to Animal Crossing Let's plays or Streams. I want to love them, but it's just... repetitive and a little boring :'')
They did actually, some time ago. Back in first round of Maji market, that things would come back around, so no fomo.
acnh is at least more interesting bc there are so many villagers and you cant have them all. whereas the game play for palia is the same for everyone so whats the point
While i generally agree, there's like... 10 (?) very famous ACNH villagers who are basically on every island. It's not as much variety, even though there's a huge number, because everyone seems to love the same few ones :3 But overall, yes, you're absolutely right! 😄
How is it cool that some people have 25 plushie sernuks and some have 0 ????? This was a big mistake. I know this bc folks are so happy to show them off. Where can I put this comment so the developers see it? My husband and I were hunting together. He got the plushie and I did not. This goes against their...everyone gets the same loot, so play together. This has become too competitive. I liked it when we could actually play together.
Plus, way more decorations/themes/furniture, so at least islands look often wildly different.
They also mentioned in their monetization blog that they want to avoid FOMO, which... afaik they have, for monetized items, but most people were under the impression that "we want to avoid FOMO" would be more of a general philosophy, and not only applying to one aspect of the game
Yeah the way they did the RNG for plushies is horrid.
tbf you'll need to do hunting for the game as it is, and the sernuks dropping plushies as a possibility is forever
so statistically you should eventually have multiples just by playing the game naturally 
🤔 rng is ALWAYS horrid, I mean, I got order sernuk plushie on my second harvested sernuuk 🤣
But the RNG is still gross and some people prefer doing House-Decorating... I mean, that is what they advertise the most at this point. So people are definitely going to be doing their best to get more and more plushies for the homes.
Just bc you can get it naturally doesn't mean it's ok
The fact that I've found multiple amethysts, even starred ones, which had taken me months to even get 1 initially after gems, since the release of the sernuk plushies and still can't get an elder one says a lot. 
I've hunted and killed 1,000 just since the last update
i wish rng wasnt even a thing in this game. its suppose to be cozy. RNG is just stress and nothing but stress
would trade you, I have all BUT amethyst and ruby with a star 😛
Spend hours mining iron to make arrows -> Spend hours hunting Sernuk -> Spend hours mining iron to remake arrows, rinse and repeat
It wasn't added with the intention people were going to grind for it, so consider that an oversight in the playerbase on the devs part or not, it's kind of up to the individual if they make a grind for themself 
I cant get an elder or an order and have been trrying so hard. like just constant grind, but no luck
I’m so lazy that my crops just stay there unless I get more than one time with them. I hate planting them. Doing it one time and then getting multiple from it is great. Planting once and then having to plant again after one time makes me not like it.
But again... just because it's not the intention, doesn't mean it makes it ok lol, the RNG is awful. There's no pity system. And it's demoralizing to see something youre wanting to get, even if it's for a small amount of time each day, and seeing other people get them, multiple times sometimes even. it blows. and it sucks
i still think its really annoying. why should i grind for days to get a single plushie? id like to at least an option to buy it
not to mention that 1 plush that is currently bugged (I think still is?) that is supposed to be for zeki coins but is actually dropping via the sernuk rn, which is going to make ppl really want to grind for it
Only found 1 starred ruby since gem release, but oddly got that early on. It was the amethyst that was most elusive for me. Until now... now they're easier than a sernuk plush, which is weird.
It would help if most things in the game weren't RNG focused. There's very little to do that isn't tied to RNG in some way which is antithetical to the whole self-proclaimed cozy aspect of the game
I mentioned once it would be interesting if you could chain for better chances similar to catch chain in let's go pikachu/eevee
RNG to some degree isn't bad, but RNG with no pity mechanics is awful.
Pity mechanics are a way to ensure progress even when a task is otherwise RNG-based.
I'd like the option to buy them as well
I feel like this would make a lot of sense, and I like that idea.
It's not a bad system overall. I've seen far worse. The only thing I would like to see changed it the seeding. From single seed to multiple
So my understanding is you want everything just handed to the player base without any work or play time….so then what’s the point the game if you get everything guaranteed
There is only one way to solve the rng-grind problem to be fair:
- Drop tables like usual
- Add possibility to trade in stuff for some tokens which can be changed for the plushie.
This way even if someone has worst luck possible with RNG, at some point they will be able to purchase it for those tokens
but this isnt pokemon or anything like that
Genuinely not what I said at all
- STOP adding things to the fishing pool ffs. omg
Sure sounds like it to be honest. You don’t want to grind for it you want it guaranteed
if it means i get to have my plushie and be labeled as lazy for not grinding for days upon days like this is WoW then fine then
for example, kill regular sernuks consistently, increase odds, cap odds at a certain point and lose the "chain" if you kill a different sernuk
was just a thought I had 🤔
I know everyone is complaining about RNG or at least that’s where I stopped reading lol but how many arrows would you guys recommend for a plushie hunt?
A thousand ngl
At least a thousand
bring at least 500 at a time
this isnt WoW or any normal MMO. its suppose to be a cozy game. if you wanna grind more power to you but dont drag the rest of us down will you?
Haven't got one yet
funny enough, some people dropped 5 order sernuks somehow 
I dont mind some grind, but seriously, i am up 30 levels, and no elder plush, at least 4k arrows in, Its crazy to me, how many hours I have spent when mathematically I should have one at least, and some people have like, ten. its just a really kind of crap RNG
As @sen said it wasn’t intended for grinding just something extra as a possibility for doing normal tasks in the game.
No. People just don't want to spend over 100 hours trying to catch a singular fish. It's boring and makes players burnt out. And it's like that with pretty much everything in the game. There needs to be ways to alleviate that grind - like a food players can buy/make to increase the chance of catching a rare fish for example.
You are genuinely misreading things, so I'll do my best to be very clear for you.
A pity system doesn't mean you get everything in a game without any work at all. It means that you work towards something, and it eventually gets easier over time. Which si fine, valid, and what some games with RNG has. (Not always, but with some stuff it is).
Some of the things via RNG is also required in the bundles. (Looking at some fish, cooking recipes like Sushi)... it's awful. Some people have spent days. Weeks. Probably more. Some of this is also inaccessible for others, but I won't go on that topic rn.
But if there was a pity system, or a way to gradually make it easier over time-- so again, you'd still be working for it, would be a lot better. That isn't being handed everything on a silver platter.
And I mean, if youre also going to be marketing yourself as a cosy game. Marking yourself to be accessible, or this and that ... probably should make it easier and not make it something that is overly frustrating 😄
and normal tasks only goes so far too. you can only do those normal tasks so often before they repeat or run out, and then your stuck grinding for days on end
I just want a few more Chapaa plushies
🥹 
I know people who have been playing since day one of closed beta and STILL don't have the sushi recipe
its funny ppl will talk about WoW and then not understand that WoW has this feature already (bad luck protection) - they should add it here too.
Not trying to grind for plushies, I'm happy with just 1 of each, then hunting can F off til weekly challenge reset. 
Log in now if you havent already. I logged in a few hours ago and still got my rug (somehow)
like im playing WoW right at this moment and they have a better RNG system then palia does 😭
Thank you! I thankfully already have it, but I do worry & feel bad for those who can't get it right now :(
pity system is indeed what is needed, Cozy game shouldn't make anyone frustrated and at this point, it kind of does with fishing first and now plushies or that star rainbow butterfly 😐
I carry 300 slow down arrows for Bahari sernuk and 300 dispel for the Magic Moose. And I run out of the slow down pretty quickly. To date I've crafted/used well over 5000 arrows and -just- got my 1st plushie drop day before yesterday. Part of the issue now is not how many sernuk you kill ... it's can you FIND sernuk to kill.
Lol of which type is recommended? I’m really bad about switching types so my preference is fine arrows but they always run
anyone here know what a chickens favorite crop is?
literally lol
corn?
bok choi? (if this is a joke)
If youre serious, idk
I agree with you! Cozy games shouldn't cause stress
It just goes back to them trying to make Palia too many things at once, so instead of doing one thing really well it does multiple not great.
yea was gonna say bawk choi 
Dispels. Or slow down arrows
I heard the butterfly is at least easier to get rn via the groves if you happen to be the first one there! I'm not sure how true that is.
But yes, big agree. Even the Gacha system (zeki coins) doesnt have a pity system (as far as I'm aware?) which also gets upsetting lol. Would be neat if there was a way to put in a lil book there, of things you "wishlist" that come out, so you have a higher chance to get them
(along with other ways to guarantee/pity system as well. So you can still ""grind"" but it's just easier.)
This might be why I can’t get into Stardew. I didn’t like planting there either.
I understand if people are "in a rush" to get a plushie it can be stressful, for me my hunting went from 9 to 25 and I still haven't gotten a single one either. But I also understand just by playing the game eventually I'll get one, so I'm not too worried about it personally
honestly im gonna grind bug catching via butterflies and moths for the most part. i cant deal with attempting to stress myself out about the rares honestly
reading this has crushed my soul hahah i have 0 plushies atm but my hunting has leveled and i told myself it'll be there one day
Many people are also stressed due to their renown at full max, can no longer spend it on anything else. Now they have the Sernuk plushie RNG drop and when we level up constantly due to not getting the plushie, the renown earned is going into the void
Hahaha don't worry about it, we'll get ours eventually!
Why does everything stress everybody out
bc we have anxiety
honestly it is ventually but i dont want it to have to take days or weeks of constant hunting
that and also not everyone is accustomed to very long grinds, and it has no place in a cozy mmo
oh all my void renoun, and my stupid levels of cooking....
Because a cozy game should not have this much grind involved with no way to lessen it.
I mean, we explained why things have stressed people out. Idk how else to explain it further for you. 😓
There is a rush on Elkton John, because he's dropping the wrong plush, which devs have teased there's a time limit on before they "fix it". That fomo introduction is kinda scary
This is supposed to be a cozy game, but it is not
there will always be a renown abundance so thats not something I would worry about, like at all
It is cozy….
RNG isnt cozy
Having this much grind is antithetical to the whole marketing of Palia.
The game really isn’t stressful…
Actually, there is not renown abundance when you have your friendships maxed and you cannot earn anymore with those
No, it has cozy AESTHETIC, which is way different.
I literally don't look at my levels, or my renown unless I want to buy something.
stress is ✨ subjective ✨
it isn't? Look at Tish, she keeps smiling...always...and always... like a sociopath. She scares me 👀
Then don’t grind, just do normal day things and let rng happen
Again, we have genuinelye xplained what people find is stressful or anxiety inducing in this game.
The whole bundle system is grinding.
tish bottling up all her emotions and will one day just snap
Everyone has a different opinion, you may find it not stressful, while others do
That isn't how that works, esp when things are rooted/needed for the Bundles, which is story/lore related.
bruh be fr
they always add new quests. the game is still a liveservice game so we get more and more renown
If you know where to get each item it’s not that bad…
dude

😄 I'm going to assume they're just wanting to rile us up at this point, so I'm going to move along from that.
I don't think you're really reading or understanding what people are saying, so have a good timezone :o)
Long Nose Unicorn Fish grind disagrees with you 🤣
with no bad luck protection, every sernuk you shoot will be 1/1000 of a plushie dropping. The odds don't get better the more you shoots them.
some people are AI i swear
im not wasting my days fishing for a stupid dumb unicorn fish. last thing ill say cause ur gen just bating at this point. so dense
This is why I rarely speak in here hahaha. Time to go back to hydration cat
I spent like 5k dispel arrows on disco and 60 horns helped 2 people get plushies and I haven’t got one…I just have fun with disco extinction
This!!!!!
best cat ever
im going back to discussions bye

Heya, I just submitted a ticket but has anyone else lost their Palia Coins? I had like 850 and now they are all gone.
if it wasnt that bad people who've been playing since day 1 of closed beta would have the sushi recipe or at least one bundle completed
add it to the list of reasons im glad temples were a few months apart for people playing from the start
I feel like they should make it so you dont get bogged down by gale temple immediately being thrown at new players, for real
for long time players this was like 5 or so months into the game
I have all bundles completed. I didn’t “grind” I just filtered through areas knew what I needed and attempted when I was in the area.
I just finished the gales temple what, yesterday? Day before?
Good for you! That isn't the case for everyone.
i will say that while ur points are valid, its beta, i do believe they will eventually add systems to benefit people in the long run of whatever they are pursuing for rng drops (or if they dont ill be super disappointed). they made a lot of qol changes since i last played so i do think they'll help people out eventually bc they already have (hoeing was made easier, flow tree groves are awesome, etc.)
I literally learned to put one of everything fish or bug related in my safe storage and never get rid of it for bundles. its all i have learned from rng
nobody's forcing you to grind though
but the point is i HAVE to end up grinding if i want to complete the BUNDLES
I keep thinking her illness has something to do with her head always looking like it’s just going to roll off. 🫣
like why is this flying over EVERYONE HEAD? I literally have to grind to compelte a stinking story/plot objecting! like!!!
Same. Genuinely, same. I remember how me, and our lil "group" at the time was when we saw what was needed for the next bundle. Like "oh shoot, dangit, i shoulda held onto that.." 
your actual microtransaction credit went missing?
Bad luck protection should be an accepted part of "cozy gaming"
To be fair, most of it would be solved if for example you could purchase ANY fish from Einar, even star ones, just for enough medals... even if it would cost a lot, people who really need that 1 fish could eventually just keep doing dailies to get it 😐
Deeeeep breaths
I haven't heard of this happening but I wouldn't be surprised
Yup. now it's just organized hoarding
Then how do you suggest we play? Just never try for the needed sushi recipe?
Until you run out of storage 
But the bundles aren't currently linked to any plot developments. Temple completion is, but the bundles are currently just long-term goals
There is definitely hoarding going on for future bundles
and i can TRY to do it at a slow pace but that just causes more stress cause with the state of the game, i dont know at all if it will be around long enough for me to get it
Obligatory all of this would be solved if they let players help eachother out in the self-described "community MMO"
Just an fyi if you try again, if you hold seeds while you harvest, you plant them
Replying to this so it gets seen. Because I have nothing helpful to add to this, other than,
I'm sorry this happened to you

I made a transaction months ago for like 2k coins or something. Bought two outfits and had coins left over. Now they are gone
like gifting starred items. I thought this was fixed
This is true. I remember wondering why the very first temple has requirements to get items that require higher levels to get. It should have been simpler items. Even if I had to run around collecting 50 morel it would have been easier than some of the fish.
The fact I was able to shoot 1,000 one shot Sernuk and get a plushie but my husband has shot 500 disco deers and not get a order blows my mind programers need to check their maths and probability
Definitely send a ticket and keep an eye on it - don't let it be forgotten or pushed under the rug
Wow thats weird. Did you not play for awhile and come back to find the coins missing or did it happen suddenly?
Remember that everyone has different ways of playing a game.
Someone may find something unstressful, while others may find it stressful.
Do not throw out someone else's opinion bc it differs from yours.

also keep replying to the ticket like every 2 days to force it to stay open as long as possible 
I had the worst time with the controller with that game. Maybe it’s easier on PC. But I don’t have one.
i never bought palia coins and refuse to but some have ended up losing their coins randomly. keep pushing them if they try to close the ticket early or refuse to give a real anwser
Kinda, I think the last time I played was early March? Hard to say, life got crazy aha
did you try closing the game all the way and opening it again just to confirm that they're definitely missing and it's not just a visual bug? either way I'm sorry it disappeared on you, I'd be upset 
they'll 100% help with that though
OMG yes the controller was horrible
I just learned the seeds things so I'm totally in the "tell everyone" phase of learning new things haha
yeah! like in WoW there are quest where you need to collect large amounts of something, but the drop rates are usually very buffed up to make it not take hours!
I finally bought some coins. I have decided on a price I feel I would pay for this game if it were retail.
I shall try that! A good "did you turn it off and on again" ahah lets see
Don't talk about my storange and 2k pheonix fireworks, I keep dumping thigs I should keep because I dont want to make them again

It helps to look at the bundles as an endgame thing, like the bundles in Stardew
And then when you get to that point...? There's only so much plot/story to do, and the bundles are there for that. Which you end up grinding for, so i dont.. get your point. And some of that does end up unlocking things...
Like the first bundle unlocks the ancient fish, that you can catch, no?
There are bundles in Stardew too? Maybe that’s why I stopped playing. Or maybe I picked the wrong farm to start with.
i honestly wish they were not so end game focused then. why have the first temple do so simple yet the bundle like one of the harder bundles in stardew? esp when your just getting your tools to copper or silver. it makes no sense at all to me
i honestly had to try not to hoard things to make sure i have enough, bc of the storage. it feels so limited to me :'[
There are, but it's a lot easier on Stardew than it is on Palia. :)
You can even have it set to where you can get a Y1 completion (via a setting in the game before making your farm).
its rng in some games i play i can get xyz item in 10 loots while my friend might take 200 it is literally a roll of the dice per say and it depends on what the odds are of it dropping that determine alot too,
I think this game breaks many rules of "traditional" gaming, and I want to see that continue, not falling back into "it happens like this here", but I also want it to maintain the healthy gaming it's brought to my brainz.
Palium storage box whennnnn
End game focused? There is nothing to do except hoard stuff in the end game.
There is no end game.
That’s it. I’m going to Stardew right now. Forget Palia. 😂😂😂
Hot Pot come back toooo
End game does not exist
I honestly recommend stardew hahaha, it's a good time. Even better if you have a friend to join you! and if youre on pc, there are some helpful mods to make Stardew more "cosy" too <3
or decoratnig the house really. but thats all. when you finish everything its time to just log off til another actual major patch comes along
Let me put it this way. Most people have no issue with grinding, as long as they KNOW they'll eventually receive the reward they're after.
What people have issue with, is feeling like their time spent was completely wasted, which is what the problem is with pity-less RNG.
Someone can kill 1000 sernuks, get no plushie, and still only have a 1/1000 chance.
A pity mechanic could be, for example, guaranteeing a plushie after 2000 kills.
In scenario 1, pure RNG: "well, I just spent 10 hours killing sernuks and I'm no closer to my goal than when I started. This is awful and stressful!"
in scenario 2, RNG + pity mechanic: "well, I just spent 10 hours killing sernuks and didn't get a plushie.... but I'm halfway to a guaranteed one now, so I'll keep at it and I WILL get it"
We need a ranked solo queue hotpot, that's all i'm saying
DO IT i got it in 2016 and i still play it. if you ever finished the base end game, you can play cool options (like "remix" bundles) which randomize stuff that you might have memorized and therefore there is always new content. the mod community is CRAZY too and it adds SO much to the game. plus you can make ur stuff pink and aesthetic which is all i care about.
also palia is cool *
I know the timer bugged me so much. I’d just pass out all the time and feel like I hadn’t done a thing. I don’t like timers.
What if i told you there's a mod for stardew, on PC, where you can pause the time or even make it slower? 
or just add the RNG stuff for coins for each NPC, like rainbow butterfly at auni, long nose unicorn at Einar, sernuuk plushies at hassian...
Haha. I was discussing how pink is not my color with someone yesterday. 😂
Yeah, I used the time stop when I picked it up again
i wish the bundles worked more like the complete in one year bundle option in stardew
for some of them, maybe
or you just take longer to complete them without too much grinding
but the critics y'all are explaining is valid, i'm not trying to diminish that
Anyways, not wanting to derail this convo to Stardew, but when someone tries to cmpare the bundles on palia to stardew i get so confused, bc it's 2 completely different vibes.
It's easier and guaranteed that yo ucan finish it on stardew. on palia, it's a huge grind & youre still not sure if you can finish them.
once you have played a game that has taken 6 years to get the prize a few hours is nothing.. and just because your stressing doesnt mean i am and its not always stressful for everyone
That doesn't seem any different. Isn't this all just rare drops?
cant relate, everything i have is pink
Completely agree with this, would help make the game more cozy and feel achievable
yall am i crazy or should there be twitch drops right now for the green cat glasses? lol
I would be happy if they cost gold cap. But I actually kinda dig the killing the mobs because you get other usable stuff as well. AND you're making gold off of them too
There is plenty of grinding in stardew. Am I missing something?
based on the blog post it should be in 19 hours +-
the coins have little use at some point, besides some people lack that 1 item to complete set etc. so a coin system would work, you could just purchase the item you really want if the grind becomes too much
Wave 3
Tuesday, April 16, 8:00AM Pacific Time to April 22, 11:50PM Pacific Time.
PalTech Ceiling Fan - Watch for 1hr.
Sandy Palcat Pattern Rug - Watch for 2hrs.
Sandy Palcat Glasses - Watch for 3hrs.
I can't remember with previous drops. Do we get them right away? I haven't gotten them from this week.
thank yous!! ❤️
check your news
I have
But it's not as painful as it is on Palia, and youre pretty much guaranteed you'll get what youre trying to go for. It's not like a grind and its like "well maybe i'll get this..."
like you're making progress towards the item, and you can see that, you know? But you just don't on palia, so it's a weird comparison that was made.
make sure your account is connected?
after claiming them in ur drops inventory on twitch they will be sent to u in ur news tab
I've gotten all of the previous drops. I'll send a request I guess.
so 3 rugs total cause of last drop? and you cant set anything on them.
I didn't have to claim mine (thank the gods)
Half my issue grinding out that rainbow butterfly is that every single time I saw it, someone had already run through and startled it
I didn't actually catch one until I somehow ended up on a server with three people, none of whom were near me
stupid wow makes you claim them, which is why I missed the feldrake
Tbh I dont know, just was going off of the website
Hopefully we get the face rug this time
I have managed to catch a couple of rainbows, there was a post, one secong
i agree I want the face rug too!! lol
Like Hello Kitty. I will use a little pink. But not everything needs it. But I can relate to wanting bright colors.
We should... though it will probably end up being called the pattern rug, which is gonna drive me mad til they fix it XD
omg that's actually a really good idea???? maybe smth for the feedback/suggestion box thingy
funny u say that.... my hello kitties are all pink in my pc....
I forgot can we do links here
starting tomorrow (well, depends on your timezone maybe? but on the 16th )
To add to the grinding convo. Half my gameplay over the last week has just been waiting for my glow worm farms. I still need 5 rare fish for the bundles. The first one took 2/3 of worms that I've been producing for months. I just log in, refill the farms, give gifts and leave.
Hello Kitty is cute.
And overpriced...
thank you!
Which honestly sucks :( This kind of stuff just isn't cosy for (most) people. 🫂
how long do the glows take to ferment - lol - b4 you get any
Oh, maybe there is something else going on. We don't get the face rug as is shown on Twitch? Maybe I did get the drops and I was expecting that instead of the 2 other rugs.
I got tired of waiting, made fifteen farms, and just ran them while I slept
It's not really about how long. It's the amount of glow worms I'll need. I know people who have used over 1000 to get 1 fish.
oof..that doesn't sound fun :/ do you not want to fish a few at a time? Like, are you waiting to reach a certain amount first? And you could request some to help or get a bunch from Einar too, if it's getting too longwinded to wait for the farms
To those who replied to my coin issue. Didn't know that transactions made on different platforms do not transfer over to one another. I was on switch, bought coins, then later went to PC and that's were my issue is. Good news I still have the switch with the coins lol.
#📢│palia-status message
This explains the rug situation
ya ive seen that 1k+
AHA!
Yeah, the rug we ended up getting is the patterned rug, which is called the Sandy Pal Mat in game
Do you request them? I just sold like 900 glow worms the other day.
Yes!
Exactly. Also, I have a job. I can't no-life this game.
Ah, okay, that was it. Thanks.
heck yes, please request them, I sell mine all the time
I get you and I understand. I hope you can get that fish (and others) soon :[ !!
It would be nice t have an app you could switch out feeding farms, selling and rotating crops.
NP! I suspect part of the confusion is that the items got their names and descriptions switched in game, but I can't say that for sure til I get the other rug
Game is already buggy as it is, having an app would complex things sadly even more
I got two rugs and a pipe the last time
If I could just place a stack (they also need to stack lol) preserves jars (or whatever) at once in literally any pattern that results in them being out on the floor, I would take it
I don't think it's buggy any more than a retail game it
I mean... someone was so bugged they lost all progress on a character and had to have that character reset... With compensation being 50 zeki coins. 😓 not many retail games have this issue from what i've seen/experienced.
the part that gets me is not being able to play for 2 months because of the travel bug 
omg that’s a nightmare
It has glitches, sure, but they are minor at most. Yes, I acknowledge that there have been huge breaks for some players, but we dont know the reasons why they happened.
This game is exceptionally buggy
I do hope everyone is making tickets?
my char changed skin color/gender/everything from a bug before we could re customize our chars. i wanted to DIE.
But the fact is that it happened. There is someone who genuinely lost all progress on a character. To the point the character was actually reset. The devs did this for them. That in itself shows how buggy it def is... and doesn't have character backups/logs :( It sucks.
Yes, I remember this one, but that has been fixed, yes? Or is it still ongoing?
Before this patch we had an entire month when the Muujin magically disappeared
i just know sometimes it’s people doing things too early/out of order or fast, (at least with temples) but idk for all other things
If you're talking about the one im talking about, it is still happening, yes.
what puzzles me is how widely different the experiences seem to be (but then again i know nothing about the technicality of glitches etc )
like, how some ppl encounter next to no issues and others get really big ones and such
i think your appearance used to get scrambled too if you t-posed and used the customization mirror
anyone figured out how to get the plushie animal drops?
They just took a little too long to hatch from their green cylinders, that's all
RNG... random chance, if you are wondering about the sernuks
How do I get a loom for making leather
yes, this was the reason
You buy the recipe from Tish
If that's the case with these things then that's the fault of the game developers for not putting things in place to ensure things aren't out of order
Also, i dont really understand "we dont know the reasons why they happened" part, because... we do know there are still huge game-breaking bugs happening for players. the fact that it's happening is what's upsetting/heart-breaking to hear.
goobles said it was before customization though
!loom
it was while i was walking into bahari lmao my char just randomized appearance after T posing
Make sure you have the loom crafter - the recipe can be purchased from the Furniture Guild Shop.
Or you can even buy the leather/fabric directly from my store! (Look for the cash register.)
Where is the furniture shop at
t-posed and using your wardrobe was the reason
same knock on wood i hear all these big issues with switch and besides some lag and teleporting animals i haven’t had issues as some others had
between library and zekis
the t-posing thing strikes fear in the heart of many
it was literally last year so idk
Look for "Tish's Furniture Store" here https://paliamaps.com/pages/Kilima.php
They are bugs that should not be happening...
Just worried since S6 has less staff now...
It will take longer to address.
Thanks
Did they end the Twitch drops early?
Tish is the one choking a chapaa in this emote: 
Investors having panic attacks and devs overreaction to those panic attacks. Gaming is still increasing, there are still monstorous profits rolling in, and it's adjusting slightly as the pandemic fades into memory. Instead, panic and running around with fire hoses for a lit match.
yea i don’t mind waiting idk how long for them to take their big big bugs, sure there might be minor ones to deal with later but at this point a lot of things are broken i find
How do I make sapwood plank
some ppl were talking about that earlier in discussions, i think they did end it early
You will need a sawmill, also from Tish.
Are you saying S6 overreacted and laid off 49 people?
well now im sad. lol
Chop down trees with green leaves, or the birch bark ones (that's the lighter wood) Stuff a sawmill and you get planks
I'm saying the entire industry has been.
“choking a chappa” 
Thank you going back to Trish then
You buy the sawmill from Ashura, not Tish. But yeah, it turns sapwood logs into planks.
The S6 layoffs are very late to the game
literally every company lays off people once or twice a year
Gaming industry has been rough for many...
Oh, sorry, Ashura
We had a big spike for covid. It's silly to not expect some adjustment post covid. But it's been too much.
i think with it being in beta still they’d keep more around (i get maybe art related jobs or something ) idk tho which was gone
Especially since the profits are still coming in
It's still 49 people, which was 35% of their team. Which is a lot. 
And we don't know the reason or cause. You saying what you are is more of speculation and may not even be correct for S6 in specific.
We need some whales to get hooked on Palia and have some faith and invest
tru tru
Palia shouldn't be counting on whales though. They coulda done more or something different, but at this point, probably a bit late now.
(as in, to change their monetization model)
BTW #🐣│palia-newbies might be better than #💬│palia-general in case it gets ignored in the course of regular chat. Also, don't take this the wrong way, but the wiki has a lot of information in it (e.g. https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Sapwood_Plank). I'm not saying don't ask or "RTFM" or something, just that it can be helpful in the future. Usually people are very happy to answer any question.
Convos here like to make loops Ive noticed 
I think they explained it pretty well in their post. And it's pretty much boilerplate for what every other gaming house laying off people are saying
How would you know the profits? It's not a publically traded company, right?
I didn't say count on whales. I said have them.
Is the gaint frog plush just for show?
some ppl don’t come in here i think when things are talked about so gets a refresher 
..Their post was vague, imo. Which is expected in general when it's talking about layoffs-- so I'm not asking much about that at all or anything similar. 
I am talking about gaming overall, with the world. Not specifically palia
out by the docks? climb it if you haven’t!
It might answer prayers, but you really gotta believe. 
Their focus on getting whales is the problem, honestly. They focus too hard on that instead of supporting their current playerbase and giving them reasons to invest. Players would be more likely to purchase if prices were lower, if fashion had some free alternatives, etc. All of this they've known since closed beta.
Isn't that how most F2P games make money?
Try climbing it!
There's only a finite amount each whale can spend anyway, without gachaboxes to encourage infinite spending you'd need a way bigger pod of whales.
I would not mind lower pricing. I have even suggested separates rather than entire outfits
But, honestly, the way their model is currently, it does read (to me at least!) that they are counting on whales. Which just isn't a good thing to count/depend on. 
There are other ways they coulda went around it, but alas. It is what it is. I don't really feel like getting in this conversation again, personally lol
Yes, it is what it is
separates would actually encourage me to purchase more, because most things I just want one item, not the set/ I just want the headband, or I just want the jacket, etc
But I did mean whales that actually invest in S6, not buying everything in the store, lol
like here's your 500k to do good things
I just want the horns from the deer set.
I still regret buying 1 outfit just for the hat/head piece. I wish I didn't do that.
But it was an impulse buy out of excitement.
thats not what a whale is 
I bought a glider skin for the cat, but I am planning on buying more to meet my imaginary price point
Some. But it's a horrible business practice if you're attempting to be an MMO. Fashion is very important in the MMO scene and Palia has effectively paywalled it. Even games that paywall fashion still have some free options like skill based outfits, which Palia has said they will never do despite the fact that it's one of the most highly requested things and a staple for MMOs.
That's an investor ... which they have had. 
Guess what nicknames investors are called??
can anyone point me in the direction of a good gold making guide that is not a youtube video they annoy me i need to be able to read it and come back not have to watch someone whos voice may annoy me more.
make cakes sell hem
whales are usually people who buy a lot of things in a cash-shop on a game. I've never heard it in the sense of investors that are backing a company.
make apple jam sell it
not what i asked for i asked for a guide online i can rereference at any time not advice on what to sell
even though we were talking about whaling in the MTX sense, in this case the analogy is closer to angel investing than whaling. Palia isnt traded so there's no equity to influence.
Then hit up paliatracker.com and use their gold profit page
Pinned messages. Upper right ... has a lot of really good guides for many things
thank you
<@&1216796663071637585> could we have a !money command or something like it for the "how do I make money?" question? It's really common. Of course the trouble is that there isn't one right answer, not everyone agrees what is best, and it can change for different patches. Still it would be nice to have something that takes a few suggestions. I think the most common answers are farming, preserves, mining, and cooking parties (with a link to #1143270926394335282 )
There is a command for cake parties, right?
!lfgparty
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cake party wiki is pinned so that helps
I GOT A SERNUK PLUSHIE YIPPPEEEE
grats
Grats!
I wonder, have the people not been appealing to the discord gods for their plushies? It's the only badluck protection we seem to have in place?
Just my two cents on that. Every time it comes up I explain a few things:
- You do not have to have the recipe
- Recipes often have roles that do not require any materials
- People are nice. Don't be nervous for your first one
those are general good newbie tips yeah
This is valuable information
Because any time someone needs that command they're new. 3) especially. I try to actively encourage people a bit because they're nervious.
there's so much... so much information for this game about everything LOL
true that
but yeah, noted 
It's hard because there is a lot. People also like to ask about how exactly it works in great detail. That maybe would clog it up.
waittt are the actual makers of palia in this discord? that's so cool wtf
yea
I actually wrote "too sense" before catching it 
the ashe person is/was in it and they post all the blogs, i assume s6 devs are here too but i havent been on much so idk
that's so cool omg hi creators thanks for making my new obsession
Sometimes they pipe up, lol
I've only ever seen the Community Managers a handful of times. IDK if anyone else is around without a S6 tag, but I don't know if I've seen anyone else.
You did make notes on the bad luck protections, right?
to be fair, if they're in it then it's probably a burner/work account
We only have one CM now?
ashe is community manager, yeah but not a dev
yes 
oh wait so the creators aren't in the chat?
devs are around, but you don't see many of them often
there's like 300k ppl here so even if they were, idk if they'd see messages
Sometimes they are. But generally lurk
They are normally working
working and lurking for the most part yeah
they hate us
noooo lol
same
other people work too. But I get why they wouldn't want to chat.
When we have big trouble like broken stuff and things on fire, they will speak and help us gather information

i hope they get good money )): i've always wondered how they make money when palia is free
I'll bet they could get in trouble if they say the wrong thing.
it aint charity, theyre a paid role with salary
that's why premium outfits come out more and more often
premium store
salary?
oh true true, on switch does nintendo also give them money?
Salary? En Es Economia?
apparently even internships have salaries now which hurt my feelings
S6 employees get paid in premium Palia outfits.
The closet is wide open for them
i wouldn't be surprised if they get a free item or two per year & employee discount
They get to play Palia for free
i would literally pay reths voice actor to say i love you into a mic
are they on cameo lol
hmmm, you can actually do that you know
He's a nice guy so if you ask he might lmao
THE VOICES
stop tempting me i gotta save money
Our guild master in WoW has paid, let me think, the actors for Sylvanas and Anduin to do ads for our guild
lol that's funny
how? asking for a friend
reths voice actor is also zekis lol https://www.thegamer.com/palia-main-character-npc-voice-actors/
Cameo it's a site you can pay voice actors to do little bits for you
I pay for cameos from the original Gonk Droid from Star Wars (not really)
THATS CRAZY
I'm always surprised when people don't know Robbie from DnD or his other voice acting work
Dorian my beloved
FR, the beautiful blue boy
most of them worked on other stuff together or atleast in the same venue
huh he did helldivers
he's very well known in video games lol
Hey is it just me or did the Twitch drops this round end an entire day too early?
DORIAN ?!?!?! I HAD NO IDEA
I've heard a lot of people say that, but I haven't paid attention 
Palia News site said 11:50 PM - just before midnight
While Twitch said it ended at 11:30-ish AM, this morning
now i need to romance zeki
YUP! When i heard the voices the first time i was like "no way, i know that voice!" 
cant believe it didnt click for me thats all i hear now
I was gonna watch my 3 hours but I guess Twitch is borked
...again
Please not Zeki 
hes got...ambitions
And a sending stone. Probably
HA
I like that Hassian's voice actor is Delbert HUNT.
Ha. I had a boyfriend in highschool named Delbert. That's funny though about his last name
Nice! I love coincidences like that.
I can't unhear Reth as Prompto, but it's okay because I am smitten with both of them 
I wonder where that cracked wall on our housing plots leads.
same
maybe they could due a questline to break it down in the future
...Bet there's new fishies in that there pond.
Oh yeah, almost definitely.
so that it would lead to a ruins section of the plot land or something
^ ||Yeah, and more lore about who owned the place before? Florentine?||
yesss exactly
So many possibilities...
because they say|| he was an eccentric creator who was mysterious because he kept to himself and his land||
I heard the words zeki romance and came running 
aww thats such a cute pfp of him
It is♡♡♡♡♡
I just want to boop his nose. I'll accept getting torn to shreds for that. I'll pay, even.
seems people want to romance ashura, zeki, or sifuu
couldnt romance ashura so i made him my ||dadd-||...shepp
Don't forget Chayne, Badruu, Delaila..

I have a hella suggestion... allow deconstructing things you've crafted for a partial material refund.
Who else we forgot... Eshe
what’s best way to make money
IE, if you have an old redneck bed, allow it to be destroyed for wood, etc.
need money
OF Thats what I do. 
apple jam and cakes are great to sell
i don’t have apple tree
No need to look if you aren't far into the three's friendships. ||Ashura is still in mourning, so that's a no for me. Zeki I wouldn't mind, he'd be interesting. I want to help him and Reth. And for Sifuu...I wanted to romance, but more than anything, I'd rather her have a happy reunion with Taylin. Please no tragedy ;.;||
it too exponsive
hmm fishing/foraging is good money early ingame
well if you are wondering around doing errands and just collect items it can add up quickly
i’m like mid game so i’m not level 10 on everything but like some things
i have all garden plots and i can collect flow wood and palium
early game i would run the wispering banks loop and hunt, lots of sernuk spawn there
I got rich quick mostly from mining.
that’s what i was thinking bc star stones
im about to go to bahari and use three honey lures if you want to catch some bugs to sell
, tons of bugs eash cash lol
yes star stones are great with mining now!
i would but i just streamed for 5 hours so now i rest ty tho
i shall mine then
thank you for the tips!
guys im sorry, im not really up to date with all these updates
Quick question
Are there any drops happening right now??
at this moment no, tomorrow yes
they’re like in middle stages, so we just ended one but the next hasn’t started, and won’t start until tomorrow
Life saver. Thanks!:)
Am I just not seeing all the color options or it's glitching, or is modifying furniture just...a terrible option?
Maybe I should look on the PC instead of the Switch, it feels like I am missing something.
some pieces of furniture cant be modified while others can but only certain colours ( if that is what confuses you )
the way they set up the preview doesn't help. looks like when you turn off the lighting and put the camera too close in blender.
Wish the motivation had a full color pallet
From what I can tell on my small screen with even smaller pictures of the items, the modifications just look washed in that color completely, instead of having accents the original has.
i'm pretty sure that's exactly how it works
Like to change it blue, it washes the entire thing in blue like a filter.
Not the emote I was going for, but it fits well enough.
Thank you.
would it kill them to just give us rgb or hsl sliders? or are the models set up in a way that wouldn't support that?
I'm sure they change it a bit later.
But if they change it, it'll have to change, like, a lot of details of every piece, and that's a ton of coding.
a lot of the mods looks bad. they lose their detail and the accents like you said. for example the chic couch in classic looks pretty bad. the stitching is the same color as the couch and the arrow designs are blurry
ranch kitchen counters in calathea and autumn lose a bunch of their wood counter top detail compared to the original. a bunch of stuff needs to be redone
It definitely just looks like filters over. Blue filter, purple filter, etc.
And I think someo of the beginner furniture look blurry. They probably need to put more solid lines on those.
Like, the very first set you get from Tish.
i learned enough about 3d models and textures just from modding skyrim i would probably be able to hammer something out in less than a month that would enable full color customization
But something that doesn't take away from space limits and quality of the rest of the plot?
not that i would be able to implement it, but tuning the models and textures would not be hard
I didn't think modifying the furniture was worth it yet, even on pc
Howw can I tell if ancient fish is fishable for me?
You completed the water bundle
Well I did, but I dont see Something's in the water anywhere on my questlist neither completed or in progress
Iirc it's an achievement, not a quest
Ahh yes, thanks, I see it!
Hey! I noticed you commented on needing a ton of glow worms to catch one rare fish-hopefully you don't mind a several-hours-later ping ^^;
I'm not sure if you were aware of this, but, there is actually a way to avoid spending bait until you see a specific fish you want to catch- I've spoiler'd it in case it's not something you (or anyone else reading) would be interested in, but if you are:
||You can actually see what fish you're about to reel in when it swims up to bite the hook, right? If it's the one you want, hook it. If it's not one you want, let it swim away WITHOUT hooking it, and then reel in+recast when no fish are biting- letting an unwanted fish swim away before you reel in will not consume any bait. This allows you to avoid spending bait on fish you don't want, and save your bait for the rare ones you do want. (As an extra note: if you're too slow to hook a fish you do want, just wait and do NOT reel in your line- the same fish will come back to bite again as long as it's the same cast.)||
That's awesome and makes sense.
Im positive thisll get patched at some point
D; dont jinx it
Your correct
I know glow worms are expensive, but so are the fish they catch
It isn't like they hook Gillyfins
I've never done it, but it does kinda seem like a waste to me. You spend all day fishing and come back with nothing 
#DontWaterboardYourWorms
sometimes i dont want to fill up my inventory with fish i dont want so i do that trick to stay out there longer
Also incredibly useful for those of use who havent finished the vaults yet
You can abuse the overflow system. If you split a stack after casting the rod to fill your inventory the fish will go into overflow.
Not that I'm serious, I'm just joking. Do what you want 
It's useful for Tempests' situation where they just need a few specific fish for the bundles, especially if most of their time not fishing is being spent waiting on/farming worms instead lol
Somehow I never had that problem. Always had an abundance of worms 
I am all about abusing the overflow system though
Oh, I know about this and I've done it a couple of times. Most of the time, I get paranoid and hook anyway, so it's still good to have the worms (I also get a good bit of cash from a pocketful of fish.
ive just used about 300 glow worms trying to get a giant kilima stingray for the vault, no luck. so i’ll be doing this trick now as my worm stash is dwindling
I burned 262 glow worms yesterday for 1 flametongue ray ill take what i can get
I think I spend 400 on my first unicorn fish
But also, I always have to say, request! People are often so anxious to do so unless they "really need it", but anything I give away I do freely. I have too much junk.
Problem with requesting is you have to have had an item before, i would have requested a flametongue and be rid of that bundle 2 days ago if i could have
Yeah, I mean for the worms.
For the epic fish the request might not be filled, but you'll have a lot more luck with worms.
when i am feeling lazy i make requests not alot of stuff just when i dont feel like gathering
I can't fill epic fish requests because I only have star quality ones (but even if I could give those I wouldn't), but I have a lot of the bugs.
I need to do some serious bug hunting
i would if i saw the request since i just throw them into the shipping crate anyway
im not counting my cooking level bc cake parties reaaaally boosted that
Yeah, I only cook at cake parties, but it is my highest skill.
Hunting, because I joined right before the plushies. But I enjoy foraging best.
I think Fishing is my lowest level, but I also feel like I've spent the most time doing it 
^
It is definitely my lowest as well. I...don't hate it, but I have a low patience for it. Along with farming. Farming is probably my least favorite.
But I got it up so I could get those sweet, sweet apples and blueberries. ❤️
Foraging here, because I tend to gather what I find while I'm out in parties 😅
Farming is kind of the easiest though. Particularly if you use water retain.
i like gardening its calming to me
hello
HEYYY someone knows what to do in the mission where i have to wait to hear news from the order???
complete the stuff tish asked you to make
can i have help with the masks quest
What part are you stuck on?
umm mask 4
do i have to know the villagers weekly want in game for it to count when i give it to them? idk if my question makes sense. like if i know their weekly want from palia wiki but i dont know it in game can i still give them the weekly want and it counts towards giving it to them? lol
Iirc, all the masks are ||located around ruins.|| I think the wiki has all the locations if you're sick of looking.
can i msg you?
No, you don't have to know it
i gave you the wiki it has the answers to where every mask is
Anyone else just kind of sat around waiting for the next patch update?
I need to, still bugged on the wind temple - need it fixed before I can do the roots temple 
what bug?
I’ve been struggling to catch a void ray for weeks 🫤does anybody have tips ?
Complain about rng with the rest of us lol
It's an optional quest line but the treasures for Zeki - one of them isn't visible to me so I can't pick it up and complete the quest.
if i am romancing a villager can i give them their weekly want and a romance item (chocolate/heartdrop lilly) at the same time?
lol it’s stressing me out 🤯
I am sure you can only gift one item at a time regardless of what type it is .. but I don't romance - so if it's a different situation there 🤷♀️
unfortunately its only one or the other each day
Yes!! I haven't decorated any more cause I want the paths and the stack boxes like now please
Auni just blackmailed me in to catching butterflies
kids can do that
At least it's not $$
i feed him sugar earlier and sent him hom to mom lol
that lil rascal!
No they can't there small
Exactly, so it looks bad if you do anything back.
uh oh sugar rush lol
Guys we need a palia movie. I think the plot could be similar to this. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wIzXBSZgu8M lots of romance drama
Lose-lose situation all around. 
I wanna body slam him

Wrong link https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wIzXBSZgu8M
... Are you the same age as him?
No
hes just a lil goober no need to be mean to the child
i will fight anyone to protect auni kids a little off the wall but he is a child
im actually a huge fan of the writing for both the kids theyre so realistic in such fun ways
yall if caleri lives in the library back room. then where is her bed lmao?
I mean his brother is jacked so I'm not gonna try to
I like Auni. He's an adorable little bean.
i have kids that age so i can say they def are acting age appropriate lol
i havent unlocked her back room yet but i like to imagine its just like. a fort built out of books.
not far off tbh 
yes! i love najuma a lot she really reminds me of myself as a tween which is really pleasing :,)
also hi Seona :D!
Ello :]
Hi everyone 👋🏻 just joined the server and the game.
Hope to meet lots of ppl and have some get together 🙂

Anyone else having trouble with twitch not counting the time youve watched palia streamers? I’m at 94% of three hours and it won’t go up 😅
As far as I'm aware you need to have it as your active window and tab, and if youve clicked on and off it may mess with it
the event is over early
for twitch for some reason it eneded early this morning before th offical closure time
Hi jaropickle if u need help hunting dm me
Ohh i literally just saw how it said “1:29am monday”
i gave up on the hodari quest because catching those fish is impossible.
Hi! Thank you, very much appreciated it.
I’ll add you so we can catch up when we’re both online 🙂
Omg, I can hardly ever finish a grove before I disconnect. It is getting ridiculous.
I disconnected four times in the last 15 minutes.
thats awful! have you put in a ticket yet?
No. What can they do about that sort of thing?
it could just be a bigger bug I would imagine! maybe a ticket is a wrong term but, letting them know the server connection might be wonky is a good move i figure
I'll probably try uninstalling and reinstalling later. If it keeps up I guess I'll try a ticket.
Sorry, I got momentarily frustrated.
valid.
nah no need to apologize!! it may be your internet but if its specifically the groves i'd totally submit a ticket / bug report, whichever is available
It is mostly groves, yeah. Any high traffic times I get booted probably to make room.
i used to study app development but my understanding is def on a smaller scale than this server!
connection to servers is generally unstable for many ;/ at one point yesterday i was trying for 4 hours to log back in and any time i managed to the chat wouldnt connect and i couldnt leave my plot lmao. so it is probably just faulty connection to the game overall if yk what i mean
my game disconnected from chat then refused to close i had to hard restart my computer
yeah it sounds like it might be the server connection - id make the ticket just to make sure the team is aware of the traffics effect on the server strength... i mean i imagine they are, but. helpful to have record of it.
Yeah, makes sense. That's part of why I don't want to make a ticket, I'm sure they hear it from everyone.
Ouch!
nahh worst case it just gets filtered into a folder with the others that someone will skim through to find a common connection for- like the relationship to the grove/the number of people. but its super frustrating regardless so im sorry its happening :(
tried alt f4 alt ctl del and it didnt work had to hold power button whole computer froze which is odd since it doesnt do that on any other game, had to gold power button till it shut down then restarted
oh nooo thats the WORST
guys I'm actually focusing on my assignment instead of playing palia 🥳
ok?
sorry I need to check if a convo is going on before I barge in😭😭
LOL congrats anyways tho!
lol well done though
Is there any benefit to playing Palia on Steam? Like does it have achievements or trading cards or anything?
who did u guys pick as a shepp im thinking chayne or sifuu or zeki idk 😭😭
I had said whoever I hit Lv 4 with would be my Shepp
it tracks your time played but i think thats about it - steam will also manage ur purchases in game
Didn't expect it to be Eloisa
I'm working on all of them haha
I got 'em all 'cept Subira, her quest glitched on me. Sent in two reports over 4 months and nada
i chose ashura! i was gonna go for chayne but ashura was just so... yknow. ashura. had to let him be my dad!
Ashura! Because I find him calming and I wish I had someone in my life like that.
i am trying to jina hodari or maybe hassian if he stops being a twit to me lol
yeah thats it theres no other special perks
that’s what i did today too
also did some spring cleaning outside cuz it was sunny for once
I picked Ashura tooo, he's the best :' ) I just wish we could romance himmm
Hahaha good luck w hassian😭 jina is easy to build friendship w u also have to for main quests anyway
his heart belongs to someone else their love transcends realms 😔
I actually maxxed my relationship with Reth first but he felt questionable as a shep- i was already romancing hassian so he felt weird too
so far i got him to be nice to me aka rank 2 but it is taking forever toget him to rank 3
I CAN HELP HIM THRU HIS GRIEF
Tau should be a Shepp option 🤣 Guided by the wisdom of dog
same 
i chose chayne cuz more guidance for my character story wise and he’s a chill dude
I just gift things they love luckily zeki loves citrine (I think? yellow) and I found loads
like how eshe has a choice to be shepp but says no, there should be a silly convo with tau like that 
it's only one a week tho then he says he's smth abt supply and demand (he's already got the supply)
Einar is my one true love. We both love fishing, fish, and pebbles. It's perfect.
When they gave me that quest that had my character UPSET that he gave me his FAVORITE pebble? I wrote to Palia about how awful it was, and how I've got his pebble in my safe storage box.
i kind of wish eshe could have been my shepp i love that mean old hag
Like fr, if you give me a pebble you like IRL, people, I will treasure it.
i have a ton of pebbles for him cant always give him them
Einar supremacy 
I knoooow, she'd be so OP as a Shepp, but I understand her logic of saying no.
i cant stand the cruella deville wanna be lol she drives me nuts
Thanks for the reminder to give Einar a pebble for the day 
her disgusted face whenever i try gift her is fantastic lmao
...I actually really like Eshe. ❤️
I LOVE that Eshe is like. Such a mean old lady. Because shes also not REALLY that mean
Einar only cares for me if I talk about fishing or pebbles. If I say anything other than those two things he loses all interest and tact.
i have reasons i dont like her she reminds me of the way my mom was growing up so its off putting dealing with it
He's just, like, "Begone now. Loser."
I feel like Eshe would be a phenomenal coffee date. I'm a barista and she reminds me of my fun regulars once she warms up a little after you get a shepp and 'officially' join kilma village
Yeah, I wouldn't like her as my parent. ||But I respect what she does for the village.||
dw he will start to like ||'your symmetrical face'||

I love einar I will protect him w my life
That's precious! I think I got a similar line after doing friendship 3.
I like Einar but I'm not a huge fan of fishing so I feel like I never do much with him!
Einar is my forever girl...
its one of his lines when ||you are flirting with eachother||
I just bring him pebbles
I wish "pebbles" included starstones.
I feel like if I spoke to Einar about my interest in terrariums, he would encourage my Oneness
He certainly would!
||I dunno, he asked what I liked most and gave a list of four options. I picked foraging, and he was all, like, "ew, go to Ashura" LUL "I'm done talking to you"||
It made me crack up, to be honest.
it reminds me of the companions in elder scrolls online one hates fishing so she is like eww fishing gross then another one loves fishing so you can stand and fish all day and he loves it leveled him up just fishing lol
Sooo… anyone else having issues with their twitch drops? I have 26 minutes left to watch and I’ve been watching for the past 3 hours…
They ended, and new ones come out tomorrow.
it ended at 2:30 est
But it’s says they end at 11:50pm Pacific time today
ended early and no one knows why
does anyone else have issues selecting what tool to use?
||I'm confused about something. Caleri sometimes asks if our character can read old Human language, and your character can respond in various "no's", but I am pretty sure we read old Human language for at least one of the ruin/temple quests. Am I mistaken? I easily could be.||
Seriously? No one sent out a ping or anything…
no you arent since from what i understand alot of those old rune notes things ||(hepastus and caido etc) are the old language || though i could be mistaken
alot of people are frustrated with it ending early but no reasons etc have been released, just hope they hand out the rewards next week or somethhing
I thought so! ||I think Jina once specifically spelled it out once too. She asked if we could, and we did read it.|| Anyway, thank you.
yeah even though i barely pay attention to lore it seemed kind obvious? that ||we were able to read the ancient language because of those rune things and nevermind the fact we are apparently one of the ancient humans arent we? ||
Jina gets excited we can read it that is why she has us help explore the ruins.
I got two wallpapers.
Damn I'll count myself lucky then no offense 😂
i got two rugs the other day lol
Hold on. I did not get the one that twitch offered. It's just a square one . The one in the pic looks round. Confused now
you got a rectangle one with multiple faces ?
Yeah I've two of those
thats the one being handed out and apparently the round face one is going to be mailed ( i might be wrong) as the wrong drops were released by mistake ( from what i understand lol
🥲 Oooh haha okay. Thank you for clearing that up. Oopsie to whoever gave us the goods.
i mean the rugs at cute lol so ill take em
Absolutely. Free extra rug. I put one on each side of my bed. I'm currently only putting together a bedroom now. Fairly new and only got a living room and kitchen. ^^;
sammeee. good ole kitchen with a small little dinning table nook then a bedroom with a small reading nook lmao
That sounds lovely! 👌 I'm going to end up spending un godly hours trying to create peak mansion eventually
i found out i could build a 30 room mansion i was like ok here we go
i had decorated my plot nicely but hated how i had to have the crafting stuff and chests everywhere so i got annoyed and tried to fit it in nicely which took about 16? hours and then i discovered you could use another plot for the craftersr and stuff ;-; so another 3 hours later i have a somewhat decorated plot lmao
Wow 30!? I'll be grinding for years with that. The price of doing houses up is not cheap...
Wait what do you mean by another plot !? The writs?
you can alternate between different plots ( ctrl and h then at the top of the screen)
You don't have to hit CTRL 
oohhh i always do lmao
I have all my crafters in a line by a fence its not pretty but ideal for begginner to be fast to get started.
Oh my god I had no idea. I must check that out. Thank you! 
The extra plot is like a duplicate of your current plot but without anything you've placed.
yeah iv placed my flower/ tree farms there along with crafters lol
Big brain moves
It doesn't increase your crafter or storage limit, so it's essentially for aesthetics.
Aside from the part where I put all of my star fish/bugs/and food there.
Yeah I figured as much. It's tied to your active plot. Just decorative only
You get 2 free (I think) and then you buy more.
I made a suggestion that with extra plots, that we could get an additional bonus of 5 crafter slots, so purchasing plots would have more meaning behind it
Omg time to set up my mad aquarium
like we have the beautiful, stunning, magnifique house plot and then our shamefull mess plots lmao
my house is my mess plot.
Fish maze
its like 50k? to buy another plot ( i think for the first time)
organized mess though 
Bruh the highest I've gotten at one time is 25k for the bag upgrade. Hooo boii
pffft i havent even gotten that last upgrade ;-;
Actually no I bought copper chests the storage not the bag
It would be nice, but, given that they haven't added something like that already I think that's pretty intentional.
I'm a hoarder so storage means way more to me.
Ya, I agree. But, I told them that right now, I have plots literally labeled "useless plot" because they are exactly that, useless LOL
Thank god furniture doesn't count
i know right, im having to craft the whole dang set to get the one items recipe that i wanted xD
Yeah I quite enjoy the feeling of completing a set so I'll do it anyway! I'm just finished the ravenwood set
I feel bad that I get some I won't use though since yeah it takes resources
Okay, according to the wiki each slot is 50k + 25k for each additional one. You get one for free after you build your first house.
i want to do the raven set but also dont want to have to waste what little iron i have on it lmao (also im struggling to find those peat things we need )
dragon beard can be found around the water in bahari bay
yeah but i only ever find a max of 3 at a time which can be rather tiring running the whole map for that lol
Peat is usually by the lighthouse in Bahari Bay. That's all I remmeber. Gotta go crazy and grind every iron you see. I jump around like a monkey. Since the ore tracker is kinda expensiveee
Particularly the parts in the lighthouse lagoon (north of the lighthouse) are really good. Look on any of the raised ground near the beach.
Hey peeps, can anyone tell me what the differences are between playing Palia on steam or to continue using the launcher? I haven't bothered to switch to steam yet. I guess using steam means I don't need the launcher any more so that's a small plus.
i do it all the time i like gathering so eh everyone is different
I also haven't switched. Does playing on Steam not require you to log in every time?
i bought the recipe for that earlier lol because my luck in finding the ores are terrible too
steam just counts your hours played thats about it
idk if i even want to know how much I've played lool
no special rewards or anything ( no you dont have to log in each time either)
If you want the stats tied to your steam then steam is better yeah. You are logged in every time you boot it.
did new twitch rewards start today?
It says 16th so I mean for me it's the 16th bc its 1am lol but idk the time zone it starts
i love to run around and just mess around lmao bc I often get side tracked if I focus on gathering a specific thing ( and then when i try to focus back on it i end up getting even less lmao)
Does anyone have a sashimi recipe and would want to let me make it with them?
oki just checking lol trying to figure out what i need to do lol
yeah i have it
it still uses the launcher even on steam you just dont have to actually sign in
Can I add you
yep just getting online now
Are cake party's still a thing that's happening ? I only read about them but idk if they are frowned upon or not here ?
To be fair though, most of the stuff in the game is "useless" like there is no reason to make any of the furniture after getting crafters and finishing fit for a watcher.
They still happen, you can find parties in #1143270926394335282
AureliousOfAurelia is my ign
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Thanks @gusty oracle
It's still the fastest way to make lots of money.
And @velvet leaf ^_^
I could do with the cash injection just to get some recipes bought and speed up things ^^;
I wrote this just earlier today. Might as well copy..
- You do not have to have the recipe
- Recipes often have roles that do not require any materials (ask, but spreader and oven don't). Spreader is pretty foolproof.
- People are nice. Don't be nervous for your first one
mostly for decoration in general past the Accomplishments bonuses. Or, if you are like me... making a furniture store so me and Tish can sell wholesale 😆
I used to always join first timer cake groups
Lovely tips! I will try to join one when I manage to find a suitable day off *
I'm just making furniture to use up materials clogging my storage.
#paliaproblems
Humble brag right there 😂 I seen some rooms on reddit that blew my mind tbh.
Definitely, but I'm just a hoarder who never makes anything look nice 
Everyone plays in their own way
theres food all over my place lmao ( even congee on the bed
)
I enjoy the farming and wish I could use way more plots...
everyone decorates their own ways lol
I had food on my bed for ages until I got my kitchen set up 😂
Yeah, it feels kind of sad that the farm is so small. But it would kind of get OP if it was bigger.
I haven't unlocked it all but seems a decent size but then again if I am gonna have 30 rooms.....
One of my plots is called "cake hole". I just put all of my star quality cakes directly on the ground so they don't take up storage space.
(Author note I am not gonna have 30 rooms that was a joke).
i got food on tables set up top look nice and to make the place 'lived in' like with random items around to add more of that touch yk
I try that and I often put chairs all crooked to look lived in. It's the Little things :]
I'm looking forward to cake 🎂 I can set it out for my bday or something
like i have the|| record player from kenyatta|| placed in the kitchen bc who doesnt love music when cooking bc it really is just the little things that add that touch( and the glassware around the kitchen lmao )
When do zeki go under ground
I could do with way more clutter items my kitchen pantry and shelving are all mostly empty so far. I hope more sets include some.
underground opens at 8 - 3 i think
It's a mystery where Zeki is at any given time I stg 😂
yeah true otherwise im just stacking plates and dying them different colours lmao
zeki will be there around 10 pm
Decor stuff should be 9-3
6-3 for opening hours
Thats a clever idea! I keep forgetting furniture can be changed. It's kinda expensive tho
Oh, yeah evening and night
Ah, ok, thank you for the help, I had no clue it had ended cause it looked like it was still active. I submitted a ticket at least to let them know that we know 👀😂
100 coins a single dye and its like 3-5 on average to change so yeah can get pricey when changing things ;/
Yeah and I can't even check before I buy a kit
theres a reason why im always broke lmao 
Also the furniture kits take up storage space 
just buy a bunch and put them into locked chest storage lol and take out as needed
a question on using any ingredients, does it randomly use or it has a priority
Im tired of clicking it everytime hah
The struggle is real 
it tells you as you want to modify it how many kits it uses
uses lower quality unless you check the box to use better qualaity
i keep my blue mushrooms in my locked storage because it will take any if you have them in the regular, if you run out of morels
I should learn the recipe huh
what if my lock storage is overfilled at 9500/300 already?
How did you overfill it. 
you see iv never reached that level of hoarding lmao
also keep in mind when making fish dishes some of you will let you choose what fish you use from a drop down menu.
hi i need help cooking is someone available
There was a bug recently that let you get up to 10k storage in the lock box by just placing 100 of them. They fixed it before I could think of more stuff to add though. So I effectively can never lock anything away ever again.
What recipe do you need?
i got that basic 3200 max storage still :3
oysters akwinduu, muujin bahari and petit fives, i already have the ingredients just need the extra hands
I made two hallways and hid all my extra boxes in them.
I'll find a way to make it look subtle.
I missed out on the good bugs. Darn it. All I get are game freezing bugs that make me have to reset the whole game 🗿
Im just making the easiest meal, but ok
yeah, but it's something I didn't know for a long time so I like to share when people ask about cooking lol
I made a stairs to my roof with the treasure boxes just for fun
Oh, and you need them starred for the quest. Do you have mostly starred ingredients to give it a boost in chance for starred?
I just got a Serunk plush 
i have starred ingredients and the recipes if you want help still
Congratulations!
congrats
Congrats !!
well done!
Thank you!!
i'm not 100% sure tbh
Aerelious might be better to help you. ;.; I'm a nervous wreck with people.
it has to be starred for the quest
i would really appreciate the help
But if they are unable, I will help.
Time to sleep but enjoy your day/night everyone!
pft same though
i just chaos through it
understandable 😅
whats your ign ?
I tried helping someone yesterday... It was a learning experience. ;.; They were sweet, though. And it worked out.
finally got fine axe and pickaxe
youre welcome to join too lol more the merrier ig
how do i find it
Oh, no, thank you!
your name in the game (character name)
it's valesca popozuda 😁
for best flavor remember to choose to cook your longnose unicorn fish
noooo they might take you seriously
oh wow, I just got a starred proudhorned antlers
I think the worst was when people were accidentally cooking their cloud minnows 
Am I insane or was there a version of the maji dragon with a "No" sign as well?
what, you don't instantly sell all of your fish?
wall bugs can be sold right
they dont really have a use or do they
you can display them
it's against the hoarder code
alr, that a sell to me
Only the star quality ones anyway.
is it worth to craft fine arrow or something like that
next tier of standard
I only make slow down arrows, and I can kill glambi and chachacharlie by myself
I can 3 shot the wolfs with standard
is there anyway i can get acorns easyier?
Fine arrow does more damage. Iron isn't really rarer than copper, so there is no reason not to switch.
