💬│palia-general

[dark flame]

Lara croft

[hushed patrol]

No kentatta

[marble bramble]

piñata

[hushed patrol]

Lol

[next otter]

Tamala and Hodari all the way

[hushed patrol]

I can’t keep up with the characters

[dark flame]

Ah yes Kentasda

[hushed patrol]

I bad at names

[forest nova]

Have they given Suburu freedom yet?

[lethal heart]

Tish and Tish.

[hushed patrol]

And my memory is bad

[forest nova]

i left half way through the lunar festival thing. much has changed

[marble bramble]

i think i gonna romance them last solely because going to bahari every time i wanna talk to them is just ugh

[dire needle]

right, i love the power of my pc, but sometimes i'm tired and just wanna lounge on the couch and chill with my birdies

[next otter]

My friend doesn’t know their names either so i have to refer to Hodari as Daddy and Ashura as papa 🤣

[dark flame]

I can't romance multiple....I ain't built like that

I'm a one soup man

[dire needle]

welcome back! and that's true, i never even think to take my switch with me, i'll keep that in mind for my upcoming trip!

[lethal heart]

Same when I read a book, I just read the first page and then i'm done. Smart of you. 😄

[hushed patrol]

Oh lol I call tish future

[next otter]

I spend so much time hunting for pal i never miss out on talking to them lol

[tired yacht]

exaaactly!! (you have birbs?!)

[dark flame]

Thanks...

[lethal heart]

just joking xd

[hushed patrol]

This game is so clean on switch

[marble bramble]

aight, its almost 2 am already, time to go slep cuz tomorrow i gonna play some psp games with my pal. stay hydrated

[dark flame]

You ever looking for FT I'm chopping without you. On sight

[hushed patrol]

I wish I have to make 500 cookies by tomorrow

[lethal heart]

hahaha you better

i'm way past needing FTs

[marble bramble]

just remember - your work will be appreciated

[hushed patrol]

Yeah but I been up for three days

[lethal heart]

only two more for the five nights

[next otter]

Do they have to be homemade? I would just make the break apart ones

[hushed patrol]

I survived two weeks without sleep

[next otter]

Hold on gotta google when hallucinations start lol

[hushed patrol]

I am trying to be better than Gordon Ramsay

[lethal heart]

i used to be able to lol and then i got ill

[next otter]

Where’d my switch badge go? 😭

[lethal heart]

now my schedule is all over the place

[tired yacht]

hmm I keep getting notified. Is automod bonking somebody lol

[lethal heart]

didn't see any of that

[tired yacht]

Poor moonsong getting censored lol

[last sparrow]

name of bird

[dire needle]

am i free yet

[tired yacht]

as long as you don't say your sweet birbs name hahaha

[dire needle]

i didn't! i only mentioned their species

[hushed patrol]

How do I post pics to the pic folder

[next otter]

Ok so as early as one night but usually 3-4 nights no sleep cause hallucinations. So you sure you’re actually baking cookies? Lol

[hushed patrol]

I am immune to sickness

[bronze bison]

Is anyone currently planning on having a cooking party?

[hushed patrol]

Oh yep

[last sparrow]

oml lol

[dire needle]

it censors the species?

[last sparrow]

name of bird species has a blocked word inside of it, apologies

i think you can tell what word it's trying to catch

[dire needle]

ohhh lmao

'tiel and quaker parrot lol

[tired yacht]

oooh that's why hahaha

<3 wee sweeties

[dire needle]

lmao yeah, my quaker parrot isn't even named yet hahaha so i was like no way did i say it!

[hushed patrol]

I made 100 cookies so far

[tired yacht]

I'd love some bird friends

[sudden elm]

Where did everyone find their star rainbow butterfly 👀

[slim bronze]

At a Grove

[dire needle]

'tiel is well behaved but the parrot is a crazy kid

[next otter]

Oof. When did you start?

[lethal heart]

no you're not

[sudden elm]

I'm never first haha

[faint cedar]

I have not found one yet

[hushed patrol]

It’s 6 pm so 30 minutes ago

[lethal heart]

but I am happy for you that you don't ever get sick

[sudden elm]

Im gonna try hideaway 😒

[hushed patrol]

One of my friends helped before they left

[next otter]

Not bad, i think you got this!

[faint cedar]

Good luck! I hope you catch one.

[hushed patrol]

Watch my the people ask me for 500 more they always do

[next otter]

Not having the extra help i’d say you should be able to finish no later than 4 hours lol

[hushed patrol]

Longer

[leaden aurora]

It is way past midnight yeehaw

[hushed patrol]

I am on my tenth dr. Pepper

[tired yacht]

They are bananas. but so cute

[hushed patrol]

On the bright side I finished hazbin hotel and fallout

[leaden aurora]

My hand is sore from sketching fanart

[dire needle]

yess, she's not even a year old yet so still learning and figuring life out

[next otter]

Is the netflix hazbin the same as the one that was on youtube? I haven’t started it on Netflix yet but i saw it got really popular recently

[hushed patrol]

Idk i thought it’s only on prime video

[next otter]

Oh maybe it was prime idk I don’t watching stuff much lately

[hushed patrol]

It’s only on prime

[next otter]

But I remember it being a short series on youtube during covid

[hushed patrol]

The pilot episode is on YouTube

[tribal burrow]

I never got around to watching the Bee and Puppycat Netflix series. I had been a big fan before that, so I don't want to be disappointed.

[hushed patrol]

It’s on YouTube

[tribal burrow]

But I think I'll try it later. The Netflix version?

[hushed patrol]

Bee and puppy cat is on YouTube and it’s so good

[tribal burrow]

There are two versions of it.

[hushed patrol]

There are😭

[tribal burrow]

Oh, okay, either way, I'm sure they are both wonderful.

[hushed patrol]

They make my adhd happy

[tribal burrow]

||Does it close up the story at all?||

[forest nova]

I looked at getting a Quaker Parrot before I got my Barraband . CUTE.

[hushed patrol]

Idk if it does

[tribal burrow]

Ah, I see. I'll just give it a shot. Thank you~

[hushed patrol]

Ofc

We all friends right

[teal jolt]

interesting, tish and kenyatta have a same va

[tribal burrow]

Polly want a...Quaker?

[forest nova]

polly want cheese

[hushed patrol]

Also I starting my 11th Dr Pepper

[tribal burrow]

Reth and Zeki share one too.

[dire needle]

they're adorableee, she is an absolute handful and very destructive tho haha

[next otter]

Ok i figured it out, i was thinking of a series with three demons and a goth wolf girl. Can’t remember the name but the art style was kinda similar

[dire needle]

it's like having to constantly watching a toddler try and stick a fork in an outlet in bird form

[leaden aurora]

Same (VA) goes for Jel and Kenli

[forest nova]

Yeah - the barraband has a knack for tearing up paper, but otherwise is a very well behaved boy. I have a rainbow Lori baby that is only now starting to look like a real bird, and she's insane
The 'toos are just.. 'toos. destruction personified

[hushed patrol]

Hellava boss

[lethal heart]

keep the forks away from the birbs 👀

[hushed patrol]

See I would let it happen and let the toddler learn their lesson

[next otter]

Thank you!

[dire needle]

hahaha, i am trying! and yes, lori's are so beautiful toooo. i bought her a bunch of toys and everything and all she wants is to eat my hair / baseboards

[hushed patrol]

Ofc

[forest nova]

The 'toos are fun but they're definitely a.. "I'll let you know when you can touch me" bird

[hushed patrol]

I so tired

[forest nova]

in their defense, they're rescues

[dire needle]

my 'tiel is a rescue too, he's very special haha

[hushed patrol]

120 cookies

[forest nova]

I need to build em' a new aviary, I made the current one within a week of pure panic because they needed a home, and they're tearing up the framing. Gonna have to go metal

[hushed patrol]

Guys me gonna cry my friend made 200 cookies to help me out

[forest nova]

i do love a 'tiel , much cute

[dire needle]

my boyfriend told me to make one in the spare room as well to keep her destruction minimized to her own space 😂 that's sweet of you though, i didn't realize i was allergic to birds until i rescued the 'tiel

[forest nova]

Hazel is my second rainbow Lori, she's just baby

[hushed patrol]

My gf broke up with me yesterday lol

[forest nova]

The 'toos aviary is currently taking up 1/3 of my outside space - but it is enough space for them and it's working in the meantime. Thankfully I built it kit-set, so I can literally detach a few locks and smack it out of place and it'll fall apart into segments to be moved elsewhere. the next one is def gonna have to be metal

it all just kinda slides into place

[dire needle]

hope you're doing okay fnafff, that can be rough. i'm not very crafty, but i am interested in possibly making a big wall-mounted space for the quaker to decompress when she's overstimulated. outdoor would be cool but we have raccoons in the attic here and i'd be too scared

[forest nova]

dusty
my lori makes me sneezy

[dire needle]

very dustyyyy

[forest nova]

that's valid! i live in NZ so the only natural predator we have to worry about for birds is cats, but considering the petting zoo of a home i run, no strays come in here. regardless though, i double-meshed the wiring and it has a base around the bottom to stop rodents from getting in

outside can be scary

[torpid junco]

Alright

[forest nova]

The two little ones are predominantly inside birds - they go outside on nice days only

[dire needle]

do you bring them to the aviary or harness them?

[torpid junco]

April update predictions

[forest nova]

They have their own aviary

[dire needle]

i want a nice backyard space one day for stuff like that

[forest nova]

Hazel is flighty because baby so i just pick her up like a little hotdog and put her in there. Nico is a good boy, he chills on my shoulder while i walk them out there

[dire needle]

yeah my baby is scared of fruit haha, she recently started eating bananas if they're sliced small though

[forest nova]

she just wants to fly so bad

[hushed patrol]

I hate bug catching I literally wasted two hundred those bug dust stuff

[dire needle]

somehow scared of a banana but not my hair straightener

[hushed patrol]

One one bug might I add

[forest nova]

Nico's scared of balloons

and hazel chases the cats

[dire needle]

do the cats get along with them all?

[forest nova]

Ya! All the animals here get along. We even let the bunny out to roam the house with em' all

The only ones that don't mingle are the 'toos (and the aquatics, obviously)

Most days Nico is free-roaming the house

Hazel will too when she's older and more trustworthy, lol

[dire needle]

which kinda 'toos do you have? when i was in AUS i would see 'em in flocks

my quaker was being mischevious and i told her i was going to put her in bad baby jail (her cage) if she isn't gentle (she understands this to mean not bite as hard) and she just whispered "okayyyyyyyy" almost sarcastically

[dire needle]

i literally only bug catch for the silk lmao

[forest nova]

Sulphur crested

Nico just gets all blinky when he's in trouble. Is all like "Oh, sweet boy. Blinky baby, sweet boy. Hey baby." as if that'll get him out of it

[dire needle]

lmaooo they knowwww, she'll say "good birdie" when i tell her she's bad 😂 they're too smart

[forest nova]

(it does)

He's just so sweet how to be mad when little bird says "Hey baby"

[junior kernel]

did someone say helluva boss

I literally just logged on but can't push any positive helluva boss stuff enough

ok, happy gaming I will see myself out! ❤️

[opal glacier]

The entrance to Bahari from ur home is sooooo nice def my favorite addition to the game

[leaden acorn]

Is there even small chance that developers reset my in-game progress? i started hour ago lost everything and choose wrong name

[wraith wolf]

Have a second email you can try?

[amber pier]

I was gonna say the same. Just start over with a new email

[weak anvil]

Is there a bug with contributing Storm and Root medallions? Mine won’t let me contribute them even though I have them all

[hollow lotus]

Sometimes you may need to leave and re-enter the temple. Or at least I have had to

[weak anvil]

Hmm I’ve tried that. I’m gonna restart

[leaden acorn]

But i cant unlink steam account from previous one 😦

[wraith wolf]

That you can send a ticket for, did it for another account

You can ask for a reset though (not sure if they would)

[leaden acorn]

thank for the answers, i will try anyway

[hollow lotus]

I got a bug as a quest reward that was part of a night sky temple bundle.. but the follow-up quest requires that same bug.

I chose the temple over the quest

[charred tendon]

I worked all day and now all I wanna do is play game and I can't

[tired yacht]

oh I've not heard of this. Gonna check it out ty

[hollow lotus]

Harvested my apple tree for the second time, now I have enough apples to make 2 more trees

[leaden relic]

🍎

[humble flower]

So I have been waiting for well over a month to come across a player request I can fill, to finish the “prove your generosity” quest… I check the socials tab periodically, and often I see a bunch of requests — but they are all always expired! ): Is this a bug, or have I seriously just never been able to catch an active request lol

[leaden relic]

i'm eating a cosmic crisp apple atm

[last sparrow]

sounds like you need to sync your switch clock

[leaden relic]

sounds unreal. i see requests all the time

[humble flower]

OMG… is that it??? I play animal crossing and time travel a lot so the clock is never synced 😂😂 wow thank you so much

[half lava]

it's wierd that you can see the ones that expired

[last sparrow]

Yeps

[humble flower]

I literally cannot believe I didn’t ask about this sooner lol what an easy fix

[fringe hemlock]

...I just ported to my home plot and there's a glitched homestead lamp upside down on the ground outside of the editable zone...

I was still able to pick it up, tho (took a screenshot before I did ofc)

[muted bay]

I'm looking to be apart of a Community I'm level 220 everyone in mine quit playing 😦

[fringe hemlock]

https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1135682474324807681 might be useful to you

[wraith wolf]

Have you tried the lfg community channel?

[neon river]

the lfg channel is too intimidating. all these big posts but you don't interact with anyone or see how active they truly are

[heavy hedge]

So my char froze it won’t even let me bring up the esc screen

[neon river]

it did that to me once. straight froze my pc. couldn't pull up task manager or anything lol

[fringe hemlock]

That's been happening to me a lot, too, but I just figured it was a Switch thing. Gotta force-quit and relaunch

[neon river]

the music was still playing but I couldn't get out of the game. had to hard reset

[heavy hedge]

But I’m on pc

[fringe hemlock]

I figured that, I was just making a comment. Solution's still the same, tho: gotta force-quit and relaunch

[gloomy imp]

I don’t think I’m gonna be nice and call out pal anymore lol

Just lost a big one while I was typing out where it was 🤣😭

[neon river]

I will flare larges, sometimes mediums if the server is active. always mine/harvest and then call out

[fringe hemlock]

Yeah, mine first, then flare (if it's not blinking), then call it out (if you wanna)

[gloomy imp]

It’s been awhile since I played so I thought hitting it first was still okay

[fringe hemlock]

It's hard to type on Switch and the keyboard input takes up the whole screen, so I just flare them without calling out - still manages to attract people

[next otter]

Does ofc not mean what it use to mean?

[fringe hemlock]

They're individual loot, so there's no issue with mining it first before alerting others

[fringe hemlock]

....does it mean something else than "of course"?

[neon river]

the f used to be its own word, to some anyway

[next otter]

I’m old so it was alway of f***** course lol

[tired yacht]

I've never known it as anything other than of course. I am 36 fwiw

[gilded nymph]

I hope we get pineapple in the game and then pizza recipe which will require it

[fringe hemlock]

35 and same

[neon river]

ham and bbq sauce too?

[gilded nymph]

definitely, also banana + curry + anchovies

[warm wave]

Anyone else getting spawned in different areas? I went to kilma but was spawned in my plot

[next otter]

30, maybe i just have a different vocab

[neon river]

auni is also the pizza delivery boy. he wants tipped in insects

[leaden relic]

I hope they finally tell us where the milk comes from (chapaas)

[tired yacht]

I'm a sweary scottish lad. Just never seen anyone add the extra word in the middle :P

[gilded nymph]

🤣 omg, this is my head canon now xD

[next otter]

I’ve only ever spelled it out fully if I’m saying of course lol ofc is for when I’m annoyed

[neon river]

badruu keeps trying to get carrots and potato on pizza, it's worse than the pineapple debate

[fringe hemlock]

I've just gotten into the habit of shortening it bc the tonal impact is different than typing it out. And if I was gonna put a swear word in the middle, I would be typing the whole thing out xD

[neon river]

ofrackingc from now on

except, you know, language!

[next otter]

But most games and groups censor you these days lol

[fringe hemlock]

Only other MMOs I've played with server-wide chats have been WoW and FF14, and their censors are optional xD

[next otter]

Jealous! I haven’t played an mmo like that in so long. I was just thinking how much i miss games like perfect world and flyleaf

[fringe hemlock]

I miss Glitch. It was this awesome little gathering MMO, but it was short-lived bc they couldn't get enough funding...

This was like YEARS back, possibly 10 years ago? I don't remember. I just remember I loved the game

[next otter]

I just looked it up it says 2011 haha so you’re close. It looks like they were trying something like maple story. That’s too bad it didn’t last

[fringe hemlock]

Time isn't real. But yeah, it was a chill game

[next otter]

True 2014 was seriously yesterday

[leaden relic]

Maplestory was really good 2001-2008. Went downhill after that and kept going down

[wild hawk]

Scania will be in my heart forever

[leaden relic]

Palia and maplestory are pretty similar in steam charts atm. As far as player count and reviews go

Party quest in kerning city and training at hidden pig beach. Slime tree in ellinia. Riding the ship for 5-10 to travel from ellinia to i think ludibrium and spotting balrog

[next otter]

Wait… maplestory is still a thing?

[leaden relic]

Was a thing. Wizet made an amazing game and nexon sucked the life out of it

Can’t last forever though. They kept it good for 7 years so maybe i’m being harsh

[unkempt spoke]

Can someone please tell me where the chappa pile is? I'm not sure if it's in the same spot on each server but I literally cannot find it.

[weak rune]

I havent played maplestory in like a decade. I forgot it even existed

[river scaffold]

is there a voice chat chanal?

[fringe hemlock]

I found it on top of the hill that's just under where the map says "leafhopper hills" - if that's not where it is on your server, you can friend me and I'll pull you to mine

[hushed patrol]

I finished 500 cookies

[fringe hemlock]

Sounds like a tummy ache

[hushed patrol]

Well I got paid a lot for my work so it’s worth it#

[edgy stag]

Hey What is the highest price at the Apple star cake party? I forgot

[unique sphinx]

Hrm...is it possible to trade housing items? I'm looking for a maji Arch and it doesn't seem possible to get them anymore

[fringe hemlock]

Not currently, no

[unique sphinx]

Not even if you enable editing on a property?

[next otter]

Congrats! Now get some sleep 😂

[fringe hemlock]

From what I've seen, editing privileges only allow people to move the plot owner's items, not drop their own

[unique sphinx]

That's a real shame...there should be a way to trade items

[next otter]

I can confirm you cannot place your own items on other peoples plots even with privileges

[fringe hemlock]

Deffo. I think a lot of people have been asking for a real trading/gifting system

[dense flower]

Anyone else watching Fallout?

[fringe hemlock]

Nope, just got Castle on in the background

[edgy stag]

I do

[dense flower]

I wanna rewatch that

[unique sphinx]

Either that, or allow a way to get event items after the event. Maybe from Zeki's Gatcha

[dense flower]

Halfway through episode 3 right now.

[fringe hemlock]

It's one of our go-to shows to put on in the background when my partner and I are gaming, so I've seen it a lot xD

[stray halo]

Sooooo I’ve seen mixed answers… is the sushi recipe really bugged?

[next otter]

That’s the Nathan fillian show right?

[edgy stag]

Enjoy 😎🤣

[fringe hemlock]

Yup

[dense flower]

I wanna get it on dvd

[next otter]

I preferred bones 😆

[edgy stag]

Price of apple star cake anyone?

[fringe hemlock]

I never really got into Bones. Just wasn't quite my jam. Plus I can't see David Boreanaz as anybody but Angel xD

[dense flower]

Thanks. I'm loving every second of it so far.

[next otter]

I LOVED him as angel which is what drew me to bones 😆

[edgy stag]

Yeh same 😍

[fringe hemlock]

Lol that's fair

[leaden relic]

Can i have a cookie? 🍪

[hushed patrol]

Sure I guess I can make a spare batch

[leaden relic]

What kind?

[mystic tendon]

Hi, I need help finding a memorial candle.

Can someone help me please

[hushed patrol]

Chocolate chip

[fringe hemlock]

That's for a quest, right? You can always check the Palia wiki for help

[mystic tendon]

Okayy tnks☺️

[mystic tendon]

Wiki It doesn't say how to get it here

[fringe hemlock]

What's the quest name?

[mystic tendon]

prove your devotion

[fringe hemlock]

Oh, you should've gotten that candle from Chayne. It'll be in your quest inventory. You just head to the Rememberance Garden and look around for a sparkly spot to put the candle down at with the interact button

[mystic tendon]

It's been a while since I played and now I can't find this candle... maybe I sold it?

Or is it something I buy?

[fringe hemlock]

No, Chayne should've just given it to you when he gave you the step to put it in the Garden. If it's not in your quest inventory, you may need to submit a ticket to get it resolved

[mystic tendon]

Where is the quest inventory?

[fringe hemlock]

If you go into the inventory menu, there's a tab you can move over to that has quest items in it

[hushed patrol]

The only type of cookie is Chocolate chip

[fringe hemlock]

Idk, I do make a pretty good oatmeal-craisin cookie...

[pastel gyro]

im stuck with 9/10 silver wing eggs

ive searched everywhere is there a guide or something

[hushed patrol]

Nah chocolate chip all the way no body out bakes my triple chocolate chip brownie cookies

[fringe hemlock]

Oh man, I resorted to a YouTube guide to get those stupid things

[elder hollow]

yep, go to youtube

[fringe hemlock]

Ooh, that does sound good

[pastel gyro]

okay thanks i think im gonna have to its literally not here lol

[elder hollow]

i've had to resort to youtube on several things so far...it helps! lol

[hushed patrol]

It’s my own recipe plus’s the chocolate is made from scratch and then used in the cookies

[fringe hemlock]

Ooooooh, now you're makin me jealous. And wishing I had cookies

OH WAIT, I still have some red velvet sandwich cookies in the fridge!

Cookies acquired!

[hushed patrol]

Mine are better

No one compares

[fringe hemlock]

Oh, definitely, but these'll satiate my craving for sweets

[hushed patrol]

Also people keep trying to get my recipe

But I never tell besides I am the Batman I keep secrets of my recipes to my self

[fringe hemlock]

I'm just the opposite - I share my oatmeal-craisin cookie recipe with anyone who asks xD

[tribal burrow]

Speaking of, may I have your recipe?

I kid, no need to trouble yourself.

[next otter]

I just devoured doughnuts and now i feel like i over did it but i could always go for some chocolate chip cookies lol

[tepid arch]

help, I would like to join lfg parties but I realised idon't have the permission to type in the channel to sign up

[pastel gyro]

i found the last egg thank god i hate having to look stuff up

[fringe hemlock]

https://www.tumblr.com/cirgaydian-rhythm/737539537366056960/happy-holidays-have-some-cookies just took me a minute to find it back in my tumblr lol

[balmy bane]

Y'all I thought of this while at work, but what if the pins that you wear can actually appear on you? Like Jel you would see a thread a needle, or Reth it could be kitchen pots. Just saying I think that would be cute

[fringe hemlock]

That would be cute, but might be hard to make work with all the wardrobe options

[balmy bane]

that does make sense, but i still like to imagine

[fringe hemlock]

Doesn't cost anything to dream!

[surreal ermine]

[hushed patrol]

Sorry I been been watching the Batman animated series

And not that I been done with my baking I taking my rest

[leaden relic]

can you make some cookies in the shape of chaapas?

[mighty berry]

Hello, can someone tell me why I can't not download Palia for my Nintendo switch, I'm from Argentina

[tawdry patrol]

i think your country is the reason why, unfortunately. switch does not allow it

[tawdry patrol]

this news article talks about it. it is also china. https://mmorpg.gg/palia-a-cozy-community-adventure-now-on-nintendo-switch/

[mighty berry]

Oh no 😢,but why

[fringe hemlock]

Yeah, that's a big bummer :/

[tawdry patrol]

i'm sorry 😦 i don't know why

[mighty berry]

Thank you so much ♥

[tired yacht]

Like the lorries?

[magic harness]

If you finish the last temple, is there nothing else you can do?

I’m stuck at the strange things afoot task rip

[fringe hemlock]

The "wait for the story to continue" bit?

[high lily]

I hate the albino eel so much

[fringe hemlock]

I'm sure it hates you, too

[high lily]

Good

[magic harness]

Yeah the wait for story to continue part :((

[barren bison]

yup then you are waiting with the rest of us lol

[magic harness]

What are we supposed to do now lmfao

[fringe hemlock]

Have you done all the discoverable quests? The friendship quests?

[barren bison]

and you did all the bundles?

for all the temples?

[surreal ermine]

ahaha no need to apologize I thouhgt it was funny

[magic harness]

What do you mean bundles?

[barren bison]

the collection items in the cavern by badruu's farm

[last sparrow]

there is over 200 quests nearly 300 i think

[barren bison]

then I need to do some research cauase I haven't done nearly that many i don't think.

[fringe hemlock]

I've only got three active quests rn, but one of them is to befriend Tamala, so that's gonna be sitting there for a while

[surreal ermine]

me still not having talked to Eshe to confirm my Shepp choice

[toxic forge]

i just finished the Shepp quest today after 3 months all i’m saying is those fish won’t catch themselves and maybe that’s why it took ages

[barren bison]

I've done 226 quests or have in my log (4) of them.

[queen pewter]

I saw a circle on floor on bahari, i just put the photo on #🤝│game-help any one knows what is it?

[toxic forge]

is it the one where you have to get to a certain friendship lvl with her because same i literally cba

[fringe hemlock]

Idk, it's the one I got from Caleri to find a missing book. Also have one from Investigator lady to get into her good graces even tho I cba to really help her out on her mission...

[toxic forge]

it’s the same one i have i really don’t spend enough time around tamalas area to friend her enough

[fringe hemlock]

I just...don't...like talking to her...

[toxic forge]

i feel so bad helping her because i’m team zeki like ‘support underground illegal market’ and he’s my shepp

[toxic forge]

same!!! i’m sorry to all tamala lovers but i just find her irritating and too far away to invest time in

[fringe hemlock]

She always makes me feel like a mouse being scoped out by a snake....

[toxic forge]

you 🤝me

[tepid arch]

Hi guys, any mods around? I really wanna join lfg parties but not sure what I should do to get the permission to type in that channel

[barren bison]

there are, but up there on the left is a channels and rolls page. you need to go there and select the looking for group channel from the channel listing

[dusky tinsel]

Does anyone else freeze constantly in the housing plot? Seems I get no respeonse from the company so I’ll ask the community lol..?

[fringe hemlock]

Switch or PC?

[dusky tinsel]

Switch

[fringe hemlock]

Got a lot of items on your plot?

[dusky tinsel]

Yesssssssss

And figured that might be the issue

[fringe hemlock]

That would be why. Unfortunately, the Switch's engine isn't quite up to snuff to deal with a ton of items

[tepid arch]

thanks that helps

[dusky tinsel]

Ahhh so what do I do just keep dealing with it until the find a fix or try to take some stuff off .?

[fringe hemlock]

You get two extra plots for free, and I think three more you can pay for - you can try splitting items to other plots to help cut down the load

[last sparrow]

we also have the nifty command

!lfgparty

[teal harness]

How-To: Use the LFG-Parties Forum

:one: How to view the forum
To view the forum, go to id:browse and ensure it's checked on your sidebar!

:two: How to message and post
You will need the LFG role to post threads as well as send messages in existing threads. You can obtain this by heading on over here: id:customize. Scroll down to "What additional channels would you like to see".

:three: Participating in a thread
Join into existing threads with the "Spots open!" tag. (Note: tags may not always be accurate.) Click into the thread to message within it.

You can also use tags at the top or the search bar itself to filter what posts you see.

As a good party host, please make sure to be accurate and informative in your post, especially with your tags as this is how other players can find the right party to join in. Removing the "Spots open!" tag when full for example, is much appreciated. Thanks!

[last sparrow]

[dusky tinsel]

Ohh I have them all plus the ones u play for only problem is I have like reward rooms ext on the freezing plot so that’s the sucky part a lot of stuff I’d have to try and recreate on a new plot yah know

But I do thank u for the tip cuz I knew sum was up I freeze way way to much

[last sparrow]

i made a switch plot myself
once you get to 2k items or so switch starts crashing

so i have main plot for pc and switch plot with less items

[dusky tinsel]

Ughh thats the worst

[last sparrow]

that being said, i made my switch plot the one with like big garden, lots of flowers
and it still loads well despite dancing on flower cap (500)
i think flowers are still easy enough for the switch to handle

[ornate stone]

push it to the limit playing faintly upon entering Sen's home plot

[last sparrow]

[fringe hemlock]

My "main" plot is legit just all my crafting stations, the bundle gifts, my crops, and just one harvest house. Got my flowers and trees on a second plot, and my third plot is my "showroom" plot, which will likely be the one to crash my Switch once I get it fully furnished...

[dusky tinsel]

I know the fellow palians always have the answers lol

[faint cedar]

500 flower cap? Good to know.

[surreal ermine]

[last sparrow]

yep #🌟│sixer-tracker message

[stark pebble]

😷

[tired yacht]

Are you still unwell? :(

[winged lion]

Did they lower the sale price for Planks? could have sworn Sap logs and Sap planks sold diffrently/

[stark pebble]

Ugh. Not supposed to feel like this in the spring

[faint cedar]

Thanks so much

[tired yacht]

That's been ages now. Stttaaaaaahp

[stark pebble]

day 9 ... halp

In other news. How is everyone? I feel so out of the loop lol

[tired yacht]

It's been a quiet few days for the chaos peeps:P

[surreal ermine]

I...finally finished my taxes today fkdlwldna

[stark pebble]

YAY Cinna, good news this year?

[stark pebble]

Shh! knocks on wood, tosses salt over BOTH shoulders and stomps on the floor

[surreal ermine]

I think so overall

[stark pebble]

#💬│off-topic-chat message

[hushed patrol]

Idk what that is

[paper grove]

It's frustrating not being able get the Twitch drops because no one is streaming Palia.

[last sparrow]

the 24 hour stream should be going

[paper grove]

Thanks. They aren't on the Palia Partners page, so I had no idea it was there.

[last sparrow]

anyone can have drops on, this person probably isn't a partner

[paper grove]

That isn't clear from their webpage on it, so I don't doubt others are having issues.

[spring glade]

HELP I CANT GO HOME

[hushed patrol]

Yes, none of my switch friends can visit me. They crash every time.

[faint cedar]

Good point.

[hushed patrol]

What do you mean?

[last sparrow]

everytime i invite someone for cooking now i ask them what theyre playing on LOL

[spring glade]

game crashes everytime i try to go home i hit return to housing plot it kicked me then i tried fast travel and kicked me again and my return home button has been used even if though i never went home

[next otter]

Being on switch does that mean the 3000 item limit is even less for me?

[last sparrow]

honestly, technically yeah

you can reach the limit, but itd be nearly unplayable

[faint cedar]

my place is bare bones but that's because I am new to the game. Still grinding for the temple. I do have cooking stations set up.

[last sparrow]

switch is a dying hardware right now the new one will probably be coming

[hushed patrol]

If you are on PC, the next time you manage to get there, empty your extra furniture on a different plot. This uses to happen to me until someone told me that.

[spring glade]

hmm strange i'll try that currently trying the bahari bay entrance to go straight home hope that helps

[next otter]

I have 14 rooms, 300 flowers, 100 trees and still decorating. Now I’m scared

[spring glade]

it worked!! i'm home

[round obsidian]

ya i really hope in an update soon they add item limit counter in your plot cuz i can only play on switch now atm and i’m scared for when i add just one thing too many

[hushed patrol]

I forgot the reason they said it works.. but I don't have that issue since then, so I just keep all my extras on a different plot

[last sparrow]

in my experience, flowers work just fine. im hitting cap of 500 on my switch plot and havent crashed there yet

[faint cedar]

I kept getting stuck cooking, unable to interact with the stations. I had 2 each. It wasn't until I added 1 additional prepping station that cooking worked again.

[next otter]

I would imagine with furniture though it probably wont help lol. I’m a maximalist so i was going for a specific vibe

[last sparrow]

on my switch plot i keep it simple, and just go nuts on a different plot

got crafters on both so the only thing i miss on main is my crops

[native oasis]

I can’t even maintain one plot idk how yall do it

[next otter]

Also how are people making their kitchens look good and still functional? Because i hate the look of all the ovens and stoves lol

[last sparrow]

its my only game content sometimes

[last sparrow]

i very much glitched it up

[next otter]

I’m guessing that’s pc only. Mine hasn’t worked in over a year and can’t really afford to replace it

[last sparrow]

switch can do 2 account merging at least, just need a friend or a 2nd device/account

[next otter]

My brain hurts, what? 😆

[faint cedar]

Yeah. I thought the oven was old crematorium equipment at first

[last sparrow]

2 people placing an item at the same time can combine it, i even did 3 people merging 3 items once

[next otter]

Omg i have to try that next time my friend comes over. If a recipe calls for two stoves for example will it still be doable with the overlapping?

[last sparrow]

as long as you can still see the interact option 🤔

[next otter]

Noted

[last sparrow]

for example, i have a storage chest inside of a cabinet, can still see the interact option so can still reach it

[faint cedar]

I put a storage chest inside of a storage chest.

[stark pebble]

I'm too afraid to use the glitch method. I've been in too many games where the players use those types of techniques only to have them removed down the road. I'd rather try to see unusual ways to use items. Like a picnic table and a pal tech glove for an iron and ironing board.

[next otter]

I was basically picturing making the two stoves one lol like 100% merge

[last sparrow]

make them like back to back

[faint cedar]

I wish we could take an ax to old stuff we made and get some of the materials back.

[last sparrow]

youd still want someone to like
be able to use it without the other being in the way

[faint cedar]

Or at least sell the old furniture.

[next otter]

Yes! The amount of pal ive wasted just to complete furniture sets

[last sparrow]

something fun though, is putting a pot or something on something for height, then merging it into the stove so it looks like theres a pot on the stove

i have reth's pot on the stove

[stark pebble]

We've been begging for that since early days

[stark pebble]

I did that with the emberborn fire urns. Used shelves over top and placed pots on them so it looked like they are cooking

[faint cedar]

Okay maybe not an ax. Perhaps a woodchipper to throw the old furniture into.

[next otter]

Those are the types of pictures I’ve been seeing but the kitchens didn’t actually seem usable since most recipes require multiple of everything

[last sparrow]

i put the cake tray from reth with cakes on it inside the oven along with torches for fire effect so it looks like it's baking

[last sparrow]

works fine for me

[stark pebble]

I've seen a lot of players use their house for decoration only and have an outdoor kitchen, or even another room for the actual cooking stations

[next otter]

I’m definitely starting to consider that

[stark pebble]

That sounds so cute. Glitched? Some seriously creative and clever ways to use that :)

[last sparrow]

yeah i did that with a single player merge, that only works on pc

it makes me happy to look at haha

[stark pebble]

grins Yeah I get that. I know I'm done with a spot when I either sigh in contentment or smile

ok crawling back to bed. Be kind to each other <3

[last sparrow]

[stuck bolt]

Is it weird to date Reth and Tish at the same time? 😅

[fervent anchor]

We need a color mod for black/white, more goth styled furniture. Also the ability to change ceilings to various colors. That would be fire

[next otter]

Nah, makes you poly lol

[stuck bolt]

Fair

Just cause they're siblings-

[next otter]

And to get rid of the wood beams in the walls! Really kills my goth vibe

[fervent anchor]

Oow yup, agreed! That would so cool

[solid viper]

FWIW, ||they both call you out for it if you're wearing both their pins, IIRC?||

[stuck bolt]

REALLY?! LOL

Does anyone else romance everyone?

[faint cedar]

Yes. I do. They don't care.

[next otter]

Oh I forgot who reth was hahah for some reason i was thinking jel or whatever his name is

[jagged cipher]

Yaaaaaaaalll I'm gonna cry I finally caught a giant goldfish then I made sashimi for Ashura AND IT USED THE GOLDFISH NOOOOO😭

[faint cedar]

You can only wear 2 pins at a time tho.

[stuck bolt]

Some ppl do to get all the quests and stuff but I dont want anyone to get upset at me. They dont get upset if you date everyone? I already know who I want to wear pins for but I wanted to make sure I could date everyone and it wouldn't cause problems

[faint cedar]

No. They don't get upset as far I know. I researched all sources and tried it for science.

[stuck bolt]

Okay, thank you sm

[velvet leaf]

There are a few chat lines acknowledging it, but it has no effect on the game and no one is annoyed

[faint cedar]

I even had a backup plan to delete my account and start over if it messed up my game for good lol

[stuck bolt]

I legit just dont wanna hurt ppl even tho they're just npcs.... I love them

Reth and Jina are getting my pins tho 100%- ugh I love

[velvet leaf]

Go live off the grid for a few years and then when you come back they will have forgotten

[stuck bolt]

Lol

[faint cedar]

I have favorites and even decided to try and be a homewrecker for science.

[stuck bolt]

But you cant be a home wrecker right? Cause everyone's chill ab it?

[faint cedar]

Maybe. I don't know yet the consequences of my actions.

[stuck bolt]

I was thinking if having reth and jina being my main love interests and then kenyatta as my open relationship. But then I saw some ppl were doing all to get the stuff from the quests and I thought of trying it

[next otter]

I heard they let us romance Hodari because he became a fan favorite, you think that will ever happen with Ashura? 😆

[faint cedar]

I know!! We love Ashura

Eloise was my first favorite.

[stuck bolt]

I hope itll happen with sifuu lol

[next otter]

I’d definitely be her bestie irl. Love that hippie conspiracy theorist

[velvet leaf]

One voice line has Kenyatta asking if you want her to break up with Nai'o. She's cool with it either way. That's the most home wrecking you can do.

[stuck bolt]

I did find it weird that you can romance ppl but some of them already have relationships

[faint cedar]

Nao'i is so spacey. I wonder if he actually listens to anyone.

[stuck bolt]

Reth is the love of my life, Jina is my soulmate, kenyatta is so cool and kinda hot and I love her

Ashura is ab to be my sheppe (Idk if I spelled that right)

[faint cedar]

I have Jel and Nai'o's pins and Einar is my shepp.

[next otter]

I’m still working on picking a shepp and ashura is the closest to lvl 4 so he’ll probably get it by default

[faint cedar]

He's such a great choice. Good father figure.

[velvet leaf]

So far the most awkward pair is romancing Tish and Reth. People are always asking about Sifuu. I would like to make Hassian uncomfortable.

[faint cedar]

I hadn't thought of that! Oh no! hahaha!

[agile pumice]

Pumpkin Bread, where you at?

[native oasis]

Where’s the food?

[surreal ermine]

[austere quarry]

Hey everyone

[craggy carbon]

Hello!

[wind thistle]

Cant file a support ticket 🥲 it gives me an error page when i try, but my bundles are all messed up, what to do

[velvet nexus]

So fisherman’s brew gives minor fishing safe zone but is there any fish that gives major?

[leaden relic]

🪝

[velvet nexus]

Can I make hooks?

[surreal ermine]

A little spoilery but || eventually you can make a hook and buy some additional types from a certain avid fisherperson|| :3

[lethal heart]

he meant to say "Yes"

[leaden relic]

[peak gorge]

Still can’t make macaroon

[sick hazel]

the recipe is found by flooded steps

by the foot of the cliff on the left side

[stray shard]

man i just need 7 more apples to make a seed dsajdjjds

[next otter]

You meed two mixing stations i think

[forest nova]

Out of curiosity - I stopped playing half way through the last Maji festival and have literally 40 pings here for updates and things - any chance cross region play was fixed up?

[velvet nexus]

Ooooh ok what level?

[peak gorge]

Two

Frfr?

[simple canopy]

Very its safe to have 2 of all the cooking stations as some recipies require a second of each

[peak gorge]

That’s so sad

[small yarrow]

does iron spawn all the time or does it rotate caue again i am having issues finding it lol

[fringe idol]

Iets rotating. It could help if you leave Bahari and go back in. You are on another server and this could help 😇

[small yarrow]

i just went in and so far havent found any

[mortal ice]

Switch servers and that should help. Lots of people mining to get the palium to pop

[small yarrow]

no idea how to do that

[simple canopy]

Mine Forage and Bug hunt youll be surprised how many rare items you pick up

[mortal ice]

Go back to your home plot and wait a few minutes and then back to Bahari. Maybe water your flowers and garden or make a piece of furniture while you are waiting

You have to wait a few minutes or you might be put back onto the same server you left

[small yarrow]

lol i did that before i came here lol logged in watered my plants restocked my worm farm put mats in the lumber mill and forge lol then headed over here to farm more iron lol

[plain eagle]

I've been farming saffron deer and the disco deer for the plush...no luck yet. u_u

[mortal ice]

Me either. Giving up for now

[plain eagle]

Good luck to both of us 👍

[mortal ice]

I hope you get both soon!

[next otter]

I thought dico deer was giving the wrong plush atm?

[serene plover]

I just got that little The Order Sernuk from a gacha pull!! It's so cute!

[leaden crypt]

you're right, it is. but the deer drops the Order plush at a higher rate than the rate for getting it from gacha, so a lot of people are trying to get it while they have a chance to get it with better odds

[next otter]

Ohh that makes sense. I’ve been wondering why i keep seeing people go so hard on them. I might have to join them next time

[leaden crypt]

good luck if you do try!

[craggy carbon]

I thought only bugs in Kilima were supposed to drop flower seeds? Lol

[simple canopy]

Missed my 3rd Disco Chap in 30 min due to having a flare arrow loaded....

[solid viper]

There are a few bugs that are shared between BB and Kilima, but other than those, yeah

[leaden crypt]

specific bugs drop specific flower seeds, some of them are on both maps but not all of them. here's a list if you'd like to confirm #🐞│hunting-insects message

[solid viper]

Or what Kali said

[craggy carbon]

Ahhh gotcha. The way the patch notes read is that you couldn't get them in Bahari. Ty!

[leaden crypt]

yeah all of the bugs can be found in Kilima so it was probably a minor miscommunication if it's worded in a way to imply only there (I can't remember the phrasing but it's happened before so I believe it!)

[next otter]

I was under the impression for too long that gardanias were the only flower lol it wasn’t until i noticed people talking about different flowers that i was like hold up wait what lol

[lime jacinth]

I'm trying to attach my brother's Twitch account to his game account, but it says it might be attached to another Palia account. I also have a Palia and Twitch account. His account is on my Switch. I'm signed into his Twitch account, not mine.

[ebon oar]

If you log in to your Palia account on the palia website you can unlink the twitch account there and then link it to your brother 😊

[lime jacinth]

We have separate accounts. Completely separate. Why is his Palia and Twitch account somehow attached to me? He can't link them if he's the only one signed in?

[ebon oar]

I don't know. But only way to unlink is to log in to the website and unlink and then relink to the correct accounts

[craggy carbon]

I had no idea we could change foundations now lmao

[lime jacinth]

Just tried it, and, for some reason, his Palia account automatically attaches to my Twitch, even though I'm signed into his Twitch. Can he still get drops signed into my Twitch?

[unique plume]

Timezones Palians

[lime jacinth]

Thanks for the help. Got everything figured out.

[simple canopy]

Anyone else have the client lose connection to chat server?

[rancid basalt]

good morning from Europe 😄

[upbeat matrix]

Am I right in saying that Zeki’s lucky coin machine in the shop and in ||the underground|| both drop the same items?

[rancid basalt]

im curious too if i can get plushies from both? or only from underground?

[upbeat matrix]

The plushies are also the main thing I’m after 🥲

[rancid basalt]

😄

[dark latch]

Sooooo, I heard that you can get a coin from Ziek (Sp) once per day by purchasing something... is that once every 24 hours or once every day in game?

[rancid basalt]

another question, i can buy farm plots as many as i can annndf have money? i can change my home for real farm? or there is just limit of how many farm plot you can put at your house place?

[fringe idol]

Every 24 hours 😍

[dark latch]

Thx lol

[fringe idol]

Max plots for gardening is 9

[rancid basalt]

doh

i wanted real farm 😄 so my idea of money empire just crumble into dust

[upbeat matrix]

I hope one day they let us raise animals like the ormuus for milk and butter etc

[dark latch]

I wish it was either 8 or 10.... it kills my OCD lol

[upbeat matrix]

😂😂 I seem to make money sooo slowly in this game! Recently I’ve defaulted to selling preserves and converting Sernuk hide into leather and selling that because I’ve been hunting so much recently

[rancid basalt]

i want it too, more plots, barns with animals :S own oormuu for riding, maybr even ormuu races?

yep, im aslso started to hunt sarnuk and sell leathers for money

[brave fjord]

Dzieńdoberek!

[rancid basalt]

haha dzień dobry 😄

[dark latch]

How do I get silk?

I cant seem to figure out where to get it, other than paying a fortune.

[woven otter]

@dark latch you get silk thread from catching rare bugs, turn it into silk cloth on a loom 5 threads er cloth

[dark latch]

Ahhh I see

Any specific area I should be looking for bugs?

[fringe idol]

If You mine for example iron ther could be spot a millipede.

[rancid basalt]

@dark latch Bahari let me check what exactly

@dark latch there is everything you need to now about silk thread

[simple canopy]

If you mine iron nodes in Balari and the catapiller spawns catch it, it gives typically 2-5 silk thread

[rancid basalt]

https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Silk_Thread

[dark latch]

Thanks!

[twilit ridge]

Will they ever remove the fact that chests use up glow worms 😞😞🤣

[steep linden]

Is there a way to restart your character and growth? I just submitted a ticket for account deletion.

[ebon oar]

Wait what? Do glow worms disappear in chests? Or do you mean they're used for crafting chests?

[twilit ridge]

When fishing.. if you use glow worm and you get a chest, the chest consumes the worm.. 😅🤣

[simple canopy]

Incredibly annoying btw... im 180 glow worms into trying to get a flametongue ray and i swear 15 of those where waterlogged chests

[twilit ridge]

So 15 wasted worms and they are so slow to get

[ebon oar]

Ohhh that makes sense

[tranquil frost]

15 worms out of 180 really isn't that bad if you're not intending to get them, think of those that DO want those chests lol. the bait you use also seems to have an effect on the rate of getting those chests, glow worms increase the rate, as does fishing in the fishing hot spots.

[ebon oar]

How many glow worm farms do you have?

[twilit ridge]

But mine contained 3 times the makeshift pantry 🤣🤣 I do want them to complete the makeshift line of furniture though, that's why I fish them out. But still bummed because after waiting 1h I got 2 worms (2farms) and I used pickled items

I'm still a newbie so money isn't coming fast enough to keep buying permits 😅

[tranquil frost]

Sadly the rate of duplicates is an issue within those chests and zeki coins, it sucks, I have had a hard time with the rate of duplicates.

If you're having a hard time with worm shortages there is a spreadsheet available that shows you what foods are best ^^

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cDsOxSJSkODSEimSEZmmos2_5hOGJ1Typ4tXutjBI9I/edit#gid=1206330854

[twilit ridge]

Oh, zeki's I noticed. Forgot to claim my lucky box so I had 2 and both were lanterns..

But those I can use later on

[ebon oar]

I think I have a pretty good amount in my storage so if you want I could gift you some 😊

[twilit ridge]

I just logged off but thank you for the offer. Apparently as an adult I have to actually adult as well.. booooo

[ebon oar]

No worries 😊 ye adulting is boo indeed

[twilit ridge]

I blame Disney for not teaching my pets how to do the laundry

You'd think with all the love and treats they get, they could fold a hamper or 2.. regardless of how small they are

[tranquil frost]

I feel that deep in my soul

[twilit ridge]

But we love them still.. darn little leeches ( I do adore my dogs)

[tranquil frost]

idk about you but my big boy definitely tries to "help" in his own way now, by that i mean he will put his head in every single grocery bag when we come home from shopping to check we got everything

He also helps with laundry, by that i mean he will pinch a sock and run around the house with it gently in his mouth wanting us to chase him.

[twilit ridge]

Oh, I know the sock drill.. our female dog is a sock thief and she especially loves our son's socks. So if they go missing, we know where to look..

[tranquil frost]

i love that so much, our boy doesn't sock discriminate, if its a sock then he's happy, as long as you're chasing and making a fuss he's happy. hehehe

[twilit ridge]

Agreed. As long as you chase them, they are happy. The love of a pet is amazing and the happy eyes are heartwarming .

[tranquil frost]

It's the purest form of love, they're amazing little creatures <3 and the butt wiggles, don't forget the butt wiggles!

[twilit ridge]

Ooooh, the fluffy tails..

[rancid basalt]

now i need to gather 25000 coins for last chest recipe 🙂

maxed inventory space but still not enough haha

[twilit ridge]

I need to maximise my coin income

[bright plover]

Morning

[twilit ridge]

Good morning

[hybrid comet]

Hi! my drops arent working, someone with same problem? 😦

[tranquil frost]

Not working how? like you can't claim or the % isn't going up?

[hybrid comet]

the % is not going up 😦

should i disconect the account and reconect?

[unique plume]

Do you have sound on?

On Twitch

[hybrid comet]

oh

I'll try, thank you hahaha

[unique plume]

You can mute your computer or the Twitch tab in your browser, but not the Twitch player itself

[hybrid comet]

oh, i didnt know, thank you so much !!

[bitter crown]

Ooops!

[hushed patrol]

I really wish I had a palia cook book now

all the dishes look so amazing and delicious and I jsut want to make them all

[unique plume]

I would love to make petit fives irl

[unique plume]

Where'd you get muujin meat tho 😮

Or dari cloves

[final flint]

hii

[hushed patrol]

you'd prob substitute it with something else IRL

[unique plume]

I mean yeah, I was just joking

S6 pls give us an official Palia cookbook

[bitter crown]

Last chest is 50,000 coins

[chilly harbor]

🔎 looking for german speaking players ;D

[rancid basalt]

ah damn right, 50000 >.<

[lethal heart]

only 50k lol

2 hours of playtime max

[lethal heart]

muujin are tree rats, chapaa are ground rats, and senruk are just rats with antlers

[tranquil frost]

Agree. Humans are tall rats too

[lethal heart]

master splinter is that you?

[leaden aurora]

Does that make Hassian the Rat catcher?

[lethal heart]

it makes hassian a cannibal

since he's a rat too xD

[leaden aurora]

There's a joke in there but once again Wrong Discord

[lethal heart]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tranquil frost]

[honest wind]

Hey that's my job!

But I'm wearing his pin so maybe I can share

[leaden aurora]

... now I get why there are only two kids left in the village. #piedpiper

[honest wind]

🐀🐁🐀💃🪈

[lethal heart]

i refuse to do anything to my garden until the seed that i planted wrong is gone

looking for someone underpaid to come do it for me

[cold sequoia]

Me? I was born in Spring. So, I’m water. But in the game, I ended up with fire.

[leaden aurora]

I ended up confusing Tamala by going

[lethal heart]

Tha lama xD

[ornate cosmos]

does anyone know if you can romance multiple villagers? not that i dont adore my girl tish but im curious about other characters stories

[tranquil frost]

You can remove the seed as long as you're ok with losing it o:

[lethal heart]

we can? o_o

[tranquil frost]

Yeah! Right click while holding your hoe 3 times - PC

[lethal heart]

i don't care i have hundreds, just felt like this would be a good reason to never ever touch that stu--- garden anymore

[tranquil frost]

You can yes

[lethal heart]

ahhh nice

im still not going to ever touch it again tho xD

[ornate cosmos]

YESS thank youu

[leaden aurora]

She spitting all over the place. She a lama

Everyone is like "Oh you're an air type now, cool cool"
Tamala: "stop... being.. so.. FLIPPANT."

[lethal heart]

ah well none of the characters have any depth to them anyway lol

[leaden aurora]

Once I start romancing her I will try and flip between air, fire, water and eventually earth at every level just to mess with her.

[lethal heart]

messing with people is not nice

[leaden aurora]

(I also save Tish for last, romance-wise, just to laugh in Jel's face.)

[lethal heart]

psycho in the making happening live right here

[leaden aurora]

Gotta make things challenging somehow

[lethal heart]

😅

[leaden aurora]

I'm named "imp" for a reason

[lethal heart]

but i agree, jel should be laughed at

scrawny little cringe voiced annoying character

[leaden aurora]

Him being all like (spoiler) ||I know how to share||
Me with everyone at max romance: "boy I sure hope you do."

[lethal heart]

he keeps saying things like I thought you had left me to me

and i'm like yeah please lock yourself up somewhere

[leaden aurora]

Oi that's my scrawny little cringe voiced annoying nerd you're talking about

Wish he was more like his Cinematic self

[lethal heart]

so?

truth hurts, doesn't mean i got to lie! 😛

he's all yours anyway, take him away when you can 😛

[leaden aurora]

*scurries off with Jel*

[lethal heart]

to be honest the only character i like is badruu coz he's funny

[leaden aurora]

Lol guess which 2 characters I drew last night

[lethal heart]

sonic and batman

[leaden aurora]

[lethal heart]

badruu and delaila?

[leaden aurora]

It's over in the fanart thread thingamajig

[astral lion]

Found out you can refill the waterbucket on top of your crops today. Thread from #🦋│issues-discussions
#🦋│issues-discussions message

[lethal heart]

ah i don't like it sorry

[leaden aurora]

That's fine, I love it

[lethal heart]

well drawn though

[leaden aurora]

Thank you kindly

[amber plover]

Seriously the storage is a huge issue to my enjoyment and continuation in the game. Between that and the gold cap, it’s like… do I hoard items to avoid the gold cap, sell them to avoid the storage cap, or just stop producing, collecting, etc. because I’m all tight in everything right now. I constantly juggle ‘hiding’ bars in my smelter and moving them to reduce my ore by… making more bars, and I can sell or store but either way I’m bumping against a limit. What am I missing?

[astral lion]

[lethal heart]

start saving star cake

[serene lodge]

any news for the free animal?

[lethal heart]

you could put 10k star cake in your storage

[amber plover]

Ugh I’ve never even made one yet 😅

[lethal heart]

wow then how did you reach gold cap

i'm making my gold off of cake parties that give like 35k in less than an hour

[amber plover]

That’s just it! My hunting just hit 10, my gardening 14, my fishing I think is only 9…

[lethal heart]

all you need is cooking level 1

[amber plover]

Where would I find the recipe then?

[lethal heart]

there's this channel #1143270926394335282 and someone will start the recipe for you, there's like 18 people together

everyone does only 1 task, and everyone gets the same reward

[amber plover]

Thanks!

[tranquil frost]

Have you upgraded your storage completely? o:

[lethal heart]

Leafer requires 1 sweet leaf per cake, batter is like butter and eggs i believe.. oven is always a free spot that costs nothing perfect for newer players

[frank flint]

Is there a cooking bug atm? 9/10 times when I go to make some food, my keyboard and mouse dont seem to work....

[lethal heart]

there is! holding the garden hoe helps a bit for whatever weird reason, other than that whenever you get stuck you can type /unstuck.... I got that very same issue about every time I touch something to cook with

[frank flint]

Ah thank you so much for your input! trying to compete a few dishes for the vaults whilst trying to level up for one i need from Reth but mann its frustrating! I wil try your suggestions to see if these help me!

[lethal heart]

@frank flint @amber plover we could go do some cooking together in a bit if you both want?

[frank flint]

Sounds amazing!

[lethal heart]

just let me run for some breakfast, ill dm my username

[frank flint]

perfect :))

[last sparrow]

I usually type /unstuck

[sage frost]

so I need bugs for anything or can I sell em?

[coral lake]

Some are requested by npc for gifts so I usually keep a couple of each type in storage (if you have the space), you can place gold star ones for decorations, some are needed for the bundles as well

I don't keep extras of the common, easy to catch ones, I just sell those

[ebon oar]

I personally keep 1 or 2 of each (starred and non starred) and sell the rest. Except I keep a few extra purple crabs for a specific food recipe but those are pretty easy to come by too

[tribal burrow]

Got Hekla to friendship 3 today:. || For someone who is supposed to be well researched, Jina sure doesn't put two and two together. What do you mean she couldn't tell Hekla was treating the potato like a child? Especially since Jina always mentions how Hekla was made to care for children. Brings me back to when I used to carry around eggs pretending to care for them.|| Anyway, I love Hekla. Her voice is so soothing.

[sage frost]

where can I see items someone gifted me? Shouldnt they be in my inventory?

[tribal burrow]

You have to claim them from the request area first.

[sage frost]

that one is where?

GOT IT thanks

[tribal burrow]

Are you talking about a fulfilled request or a gift from the news section?

[orchid garnet]

good morning

[fringe jacinth]

Since when does entering the underground change servers?

[tribal burrow]

It doesn't, usually. Unless you temporarily disconnected?

[ocean roost]

I change servers a LOT. Seems more recently

[tribal burrow]

I tested, both times entering and leaving I changed servers. Maybe it is just a busy day.

[pearl hollow]

Entering the underground has always changed servers for me (switch player)

[cosmic tundra]

where is the underground

[fringe jacinth]

I’m also on switch, and it changes when entering and exiting.

[tribal burrow]

I am also on the Switch, but I used to be shocked that I wouldn't switch. Heh heh.. Switch. So I know it used to be a thing because there were conversations going between transitions.

||Especially since I romanced Reth.||

[pearl hollow]

||under zeki's shop and thru a pipe along the kilima shoreline. You have to be good friends with zeki to use it/grt in||

[tribal burrow]

It's a secret to everybody.

[cosmic tundra]

||ohh thank you! i have a quest right now but i didn’t know where , do i have to just talk and give gifts to be friends?||

[tribal burrow]

||For that part you have to do the sewer entry way first.||

[cosmic tundra]

i’m not sure what that is!:0

[tribal burrow]

||Just look along the shore for a large pipe entryway. It should be toward the west.||

[cosmic tundra]

thank you! lifesaver :) i’m new to the game as you can probably tell

[pearl hollow]

||It's near leafhopper hills if i remember right, like South of it||

[cosmic tundra]

thanks so much both of u 🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🫂

[pearl hollow]

You're welcome! I hope you enjoy the game

[cosmic tundra]

i certainly do!!

[bitter crown]

Have as many affairs as you wish, totally legal, but not irl.. I change pins, no one bothers

[wind ore]

is jam useless now..

[glossy schooner]

To my understanding underground is like a separate server, like Kilima vs Bahari. You may return to the village and end up in the same server as before, but it's not guaranteed.

[desert tapir]

best use is for glow worm food

[last sparrow]

throw them in the worm farms for big bucks

ok yeah regular worm farm for selling raw output, glow worm farm for whatever you plan to fish with

you can see raw output comparisons here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tr5KdvomPxOsA93HC9S7vDdP_bnffWifpwwQPCectdg/edit#gid=0

[wind ore]

yeah that's what I've been doing.. just sad it's useless in cooking now.. I miss cake parties 😦

[last sparrow]

can still hoard apples for cake parties

[orchid garnet]

how many Sernuk plushies have you guys collected?

[sour ice]

wait so i shouldnt be making jars at all? 😭

i make cakes with apples and throw them in the worm farm, then sell, thats the highest profit?

[last sparrow]

if you are planning to do cake parties you'd want to hoard apples for it, sure probably don't jam them

[hushed patrol]

0🤧

[last sparrow]

yeah thats max profit

[sour ice]

thank you 🙂

[orchid garnet]

I got 1 so far! I need moar

[hushed patrol]

Ouuu which one?

[orchid garnet]

just the standard one so far

[last sparrow]

i only got the order one, only one i cared about getting asap

[sour ice]

same

[orchid garnet]

I NEED the order one so bad

[sour ice]

i just made a bunch of hunting horns and farmed him for a few hours one day a

[hushed patrol]

Order one is really cute! But any plushie is cute tbh.

I did earn that lil mushroom from Zeki a few days ago.

[sour ice]

i think it took me around 60 kills

[orchid garnet]

I think I just got my hunting level high enough for horns

[wind ore]

wait you can get the mushroom one!?

[orchid garnet]

I always felt too bad hunting the cute animals lmao but now there's Plushies...

[sour ice]

SAME

[wind ore]

i need 100 of them

[sour ice]

now they can all die just give me the plush 🔥

[hushed patrol]

RIGHT??

Also bye besties see you all after work.✨

[wind ore]

there's more than one plushie?

[orchid garnet]

take care!

[sour ice]

yeah theres a bunch 🙂

[wind ore]

how do you get them? I only know of the disco deer one

[last sparrow]

read the pin in the channel

[sour ice]

i believe you get most of them from lucky ball

[last sparrow]

and yeah the zeki capsule machine for all the other ones

[feral sphinx]

The elder plushie doesn’t exist for me yet lol

[fringe hemlock]

Lol same here

I found a fun thing to do last night: climb to the top of giant frogbert, drop down to its lips, and start shooting at all the chapaa and sernuk in the field below xD

Oh heck yeah, just got my first flow seed!!

[outer tundra]

hey i really wanna get the refer a friend rewards so if you guys could use it i’d really appreciate it

[simple canopy]

#🎉│refer-a-friend

[outer tundra]

thank you

[outer tundra]

how many friends do u have to refer to get the chappas hugging plushie?

[fierce root]

Heyooo I was just wondering, I will not be able to get the twitch drop for the sandy palcat rug? It did get bugged for me. I ended up getting an extra one of the palcat mat

[fringe hemlock]

The rug I believe is gonna be in wave 3, if I understood the announcements correctly

[fierce root]

Ohhh okieee thank you @fringe hemlock

I want it too haha it’s so cuteee~

[glossy talon]

Hey, hello. Question about romancing. The npc || gave me their pin, am I supposed to give them one back? I think I gave jina something when I romanced her but I’m not getting any pop up quest to give reth anything and it says in the description that he’s waiting for something|| how does this happen?

[wanton breach]

hi, after using a dowsing rod, and when my 15 minutes were actually done, I was fially able to find a heartdrop lily and now I feel ontop of the world and nothing can bring me down XD

[glossy talon]

Flow seed? Wth is that?

[fierce root]

I’m so happy I got all my deer plushies~ Now I just need the proudhorn one when the devs fix it.

[lament eagle]

i just logged in and I am under texture, teleported to house and it fixed me

[lethal heart]

how many million arrows did you use?

[glossy talon]

Congrats! That’s how I felt after I finished the temple of the gales.

[lethal heart]

I'm sitting at at least 10k arrows - no plushes

[fierce root]

I don’t know haha I’ve been just aggressively hunting~

[fringe hemlock]

It's a drop you can get from one of the temple bundle rewards - it lets you grow a flow tree on your home plot!

[wanton breach]

the way I have been looking for heartdrop lily for DAYS lololololol

[glossy talon]

Yay!!!

[ornate vigil]

That will be another part of the romance quest line!

[glossy talon]

Wow!

[lethal heart]

i had 3, gave one to tish and kenyatta with the hopes of it doing anything, but alas, should have just given them yesterday's cake

[glossy talon]

I’m at full romance level with him and|| even have his picture. Is this right? ||

[last sparrow]

i recommend checking the cliffs by windy ruins for some reason i keep finding them there and have 7 now

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1135680707054805132/1226692128223006783/image.png?ex=6625b112&is=66133c12&hm=312d2313889d48cfa1af6566a23afd41318a814694718a6b20f3d9bcd86449b4&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=595&height=675

[lethal heart]

so besides the collection, are there more uses for the heartdrop lily?

[ornate vigil]

Which character is it?

[glossy talon]

Reth

[wanton breach]

saving this

[lethal heart]

Mhm! Good to keep an eye open whilst out for daisies ^^

[fringe hemlock]

I have...13... and I haven't even begun to romance anyone...

[glossy talon]

I don’t know. Maybe I already gave it to him. I just want to move on so I can romance tish lol

[lethal heart]

https://paliamaps.com/

[wanton breach]

you need it for 2 quests

[lethal heart]

Oh no, one for each?

[tranquil frost]

I hope we can use it for furnishing recipes in future

[lethal heart]

200 hours in and found 3 in total

[wanton breach]

I think so

[ornate vigil]

If you've reached the end of the questline, it should have already happened. ||When you brought items to Sifuu to make something, that was the pin.||

[wanton breach]

😮

[glossy talon]

. I remember doing that for jina. Maybe I did it for reth. I have a bad memory. Thank you for your help.

[lethal heart]

The map may not always be accurate depending on what others gathered, but it's a good indication of where you want to start looking. Like how some flowers grow up high, and how clay is at the kilima shores, or how ore is scattered around mountains.. etc ^^

[lament eagle]

so... i hunted the white deer for weeks and wasted a lot of arrows. Now i login and do not even use beats horn to track it, just stumbled uppon it, killed it and i got the plushie... damn this RNG

[wanton breach]

Thanks! This is going to be a huge help

[tranquil frost]

It really do be like that sometimes, which is why its not intended to be something people hyper farm and they advise just to take it at a steady pace. Congrats on your plushie!!!

[lament eagle]

thanks!

[sage frost]

can someone pls remind me a purpose of this game? i havent played this in 6 months

[dark flame]

Chill, house clutter, romance anxious men

[raw wave]

Just bought a outfit and it crashed but took my money!

[cosmic tundra]

for funzies

[leaden relic]

Collect stuff

[raw wave]

Grind

[fringe citrus]

purge the world of chapaa infestations! unless they're wearing hats...

[dark flame]

Put all the bugs ever in my bathroom. That's a quest for me ..

[unique plume]

I got the sushi recipe while fishing at a friend's plot, and completed my first bundle (beach bundle)

[fringe citrus]

Congrats! That's a lot of work!

[unique plume]

puts on a hat

[tired yacht]

I'm wicked and I'm laaaazyyyyyyy🎶

[tribal burrow]

Listen, I respect that the game puts you in your servers where your friends are...but maybe they could do it...a bit less.

My jokes will get old.

[leaden aurora]

I don't have that issue at all!
then again I don't have any friends

[tribal burrow]

I feel like I am in friendship puragatory.

[weak anvil]

Used my first buzzy jar last night… I think I like bug catching now.

[tribal burrow]

And it doesn't take an arm and a leg to make like honey lures.

[raw wave]

Spotted mantis still not spawning

[weak anvil]

Also I was extremely lucky yesterday. Found the sushi recipe, long nosed unicorn fish, and the rainbow tipped butterfly. I send all luck to other palians who need a boost today

[raw wave]

I've used 20 buzzy jars

[tribal burrow]

Ugh, sorry. I hope you get one today!

[leaden relic]

Would be nice to have an invisible status (friends can’t see you, servers are random) never seen that in a game though

[weak anvil]

Stay positive and keep trying. Took me months (of off and on gaming) to get the unicorn fish!

[austere pond]

The new bundle requires emerald
I used to get emeralds in abundance and now i havent seen one since

[weak anvil]

Same I feel bad for selling em

[austere pond]

[tribal burrow]

Only copper nodes have them.

Just in case you don't know... I didn't, but even when I was told it took foreverrrrr.

[raw wave]

I've put a ticket in. Their just not spawning

[austere pond]

Fully aware ;_;
I've been mining copper like crazy, I'm reduced to begging on the Requests page

[raw wave]

I've got an emerald you can have

[leaden relic]

That’s why i keep at least 3 of each star stone in my storage

[round obsidian]

i guess if they ever increase server size it won’t be that bad but yea if you have a lot of friends your mostly with them

[tribal burrow]

I suppose you have never caught a Spotted Mantis before, right?

[austere pond]

S M A R T I should start doing that

[raw wave]

I've caught one but need a starred one

[austere pond]

YO FR FR??

[round obsidian]

yea i got 2 of each from before ||the recent bundle proved why i had to hoard them ||

[raw wave]

Yeh you can have it

[tribal burrow]

oh ew. For achievements? Ugh, that's terrible.

[raw wave]

It's annoying me!

[austere pond]

Holy crap thankoo ;_;

[raw wave]

My IGN is Babbles

[austere pond]

Mine's Illiam Elro

Added!

[hushed patrol]

Do guys even play this game, I rarely ever see any in game at least. Lmao

No bro's 😭😭

[austere pond]

Have a Honey Lure in return thank you so muchhhhh

[raw wave]

Thanks

[austere pond]

I'm playing literally rn lol, I love it
Me n' my sib play all the time

[tribal burrow]

I see a lot of men playing.

[unique plume]

I'm a guy but play with a female char

[round obsidian]

my bro likes it but not the relationship bit but when i told helpin he didn’t have to do that part he just stated doing whatever, he loves hunting

[hushed patrol]

I rarely see any my only conclusion is that they use female characters

[merry steppe]

any settings for motion sickness. I have probs 800 hours in the beta, but with steam the settings r off, and i need to lay down every 5 min

[austere pond]

I like being a dude and wearin pretty dresses

[hushed patrol]

Lmaoo

[tribal burrow]

My brother always plays as female characters in games.

[round obsidian]

it should be in the game settings yea

[merry steppe]

trying to find it, but cant

[round obsidian]

idk if there’s any special numbers for setting i’m not in game atm to see

i think it’s in graphic?

[round obsidian]

or advanced if that’s a section? man i’m not good at remembering the setting menu

[merry steppe]

no setting here, my husband looked too, since i am a bit dizzy, but it said in the loading screen there was something. Hmm, might just google around, but thanks ❤️

Edit: found it'

[raw wave]

They emailed me back. There isn't an issue with the spotted mantis, it's just rare!

[round obsidian]

ah ok cool xD there’s also this from a redit post you can try if it doesn’t help as much “ I have a 1440p monitor but I played in 1080p windowed mode. If you adjust your game resolution to a smaller resolution, your field of vision for moving object in the game are reduced, you will have lesser motion sickness. Another way is to sit further from the screen to widen your field of vision.”

[raw wave]

The amount of time I've ran around the shrine I'll be seeing it in my sleep lol

[crimson bridge]

Facts.

[round obsidian]

yea i was lucky with mine xD someone said a trick is to pop a buzzy jar there and if it doesn’t show up to run to bahari and back in to see if it’s on the new server you join, and keep doing that until it does, can also try honey lures

[hushed patrol]

I need to force myself to take a break rn.

[round obsidian]

i had to do that a few times good thing we have a dog lol

[hushed patrol]

Lolll. I always say only 2 or 3 hours and when I look up 5-7 hours have passed.

[austere pond]

RIGHTTTTTT

I try to limit myself to one outdoor project (mining, bugs, what have you), then taking care of the plants and material conversion

Then take a break

[merry steppe]

thanks,i will try ❤️

[unique plume]

I take breaks when I get tired of the game or when the loading screen tells me to

[hushed patrol]

Lolll

[austere pond]

That's a smart move too lmfao
Loading screen says take a break, do it

[hushed patrol]

I'm grateful for the implementation now.

[round obsidian]

i rmember when wow used to have a message that popped up like that in chat “you should take a break” and i’d take breaks when it said that, then i ignored it

i’m same with here tho “ina. few minutes” and hour passes

[graceful zinc]

I need help maybe im doing something wrong

I claimed the twich drops but its been a Day and nothing came

[leaden aurora]

I try to limit myself but then I blink and it's 3 hours later

[graceful zinc]

I have to do something else??

[round obsidian]

not in your news feed ingame?

[worthy burrow]

Head over to the shrine area at 2:30 AM game time. All the bugs will switch over at 3 AM. So right at 3 AM, start a Honey lure. Near the entrance closest to your home on the right hand side just a little bit in to the shrine area. I caught four of them in one sitting none of them were starred, but you will eventually get one.

[graceful zinc]

Nope

[round obsidian]

maybe try relaunch game again and check if not contact support since it’s been an irl day

show you claimed it and then in your news feed there’s no mail

[graceful zinc]

I Will thx

[charred tendon]

I want cherry blossoms

[round obsidian]

those’d be so cute

[charred tendon]

I'd totally focus my entire plot around that theme! or even some cool willow trees!

[chilly sky]

If we ever get chickens in this game, my plot will be overrun.

[cursive vector]

New oneness? Has anyone completed? Mine will not complete?

[harsh osprey]

Has anyone else’s game been super laggy this week? My PC shouldn’t be struggling the way it is, and I’ve even lowered a bunch of setting and the game is still laggy

[cursive vector]

sometimes when i reload into a new server ...sometimes is laggy but then i go to my plot and back out in the world and it fixes.

[unique plume]

Have you checked your PC's thermals? Maybe it's time for a clean

[harsh osprey]

Hmm I’ll try that, it’s definitely worse when I’m in a new server by I also noticed it at my plot

[harsh osprey]

My PC is fine otherwise, it’s only Palia giving me a problem. It’s not running too hot either

[shut mural]

My game glitched & froze after I got the Proudhorn, the last Stormseeker & Emberseeker Medallions, & a few of the Rootseeker medallions💀

[unique plume]

Then must be a problem with the game. Keep in mind it's still in beta

[harsh osprey]

I know it’s still in beta so will have struggles, I’m just wondering if anyone else is also struggling and if there’s an easy fix or if I just have to wait it out

Ty everyone, I’m hoping it clears up soon so I can actually enjoy the game again 😭

[charred tendon]

omg chimkens

[sleek zodiac]

My switch is having issues today. Keep having to restart and reload game, just jumped off a cliff and teleported somewhere random o.O

Keep getting "travel failure" at times on reload too

[lethal heart]

if you ever get stuck, type /unstuck, hope that helps ^^

[harsh osprey]

Ah yeah I mostly play PC but my switch has struggled the few times I’ve played on it 😭

[sleek zodiac]

Ahhh not stuck, just lil buggy for some reason today. Jumped off cliff as normal and it teleported me to a whole dif area on map on a dif cliff lol

[harsh osprey]

I expect my switch to struggle some but my PC should not be struggling too 😭

[austere pond]

Hm... Is it possible to place furniture in a friend's home?

I wanna give my sib a room in my house but idk if I gotta make the furniture or if they can

[harsh osprey]

Idk if this has changed or not, but I was able to build the furniture and then my partner could move it around in my house. He wasn’t able to build and place it down though, so you might have to make whatever furniture they want

This was several months ago though, idk about currently

[round obsidian]

no but they can get the plan for a room and you can help contribute to the build , but as obsidian said you can’t give furniture over, they’d have to be editor (or you) and all can do is move things around otherwise