#💬│palia-general
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15 max pieces. That includes doors and such.
I need requesters to empty my storage, please.
Although Zeki ||does have something that could jumpstart a regeneration project.
The duplifier.. Now this will include more different types of exotic meat and fur. ||
is anyone else getting random msgs/adds from people in this server?
Just go shove stuff in the sales bin lol
That's the cap for placing them. You can buy more than 15 but I don't know if there's a limit to that
say what? i would never! that means my gold cap gets reached to fast, and my game ends
And that is part of my joke.
||"So when can we eat the Kitsuu?" ||
I thought doors no longer counted toward room count?
once i get stuck on 300k i am done, that is a depression i cannot give myself.
i dont know ive been shuckling everyday still no smooth shiny pebble
you can invest in zeki coins or silk to prolong your Palian existence
Doors still do (for me anyway) but fireplaces and porches don't
Now when you think about it..
It makes sense. ||It would restore the population.
Or does everyone want them to hang on a thread till extinction? ||
Never saw that change. Ignored doors when I heard they counted toward the limit.
zeki coins cost 10-20 gold unless you seek something, as you gain one from each purchase every 24 hour
Try removing your door and replacing it, I thought they fixed that in a hotfix
**I would attempt but I have computer fatigue lol. I'm not playing tonight.
Hmm, if you're receiving any unsolicited DMs/invites from here, you're always welcome to report via @raven agate. Alternatively you can update your privacy settings so that you don't receive these in the future. 
you can buy them for 10k from zeki's underground too though. that's why I said invest lol
😮 rly?
ye hence my reply, i dont seek any furniture from market yet 😄 but now you reminded me i can go waste gold on addition to my bug house
These cakes weren't being baked for the fun of it
I tried placing one after the hotfix, it adds to the building limit
Tin foil hat theory here..
||Is this really the Real < Zeki ? (After learning about the duplifier)||
you could buy coins for 10k each and stockpile them in your storage
maybe they'll add something you want eventually
doing a cake party in 25 mins if anyone wanna join, adding to LFG channel now
I'm stockpiling until they reduce the odds of cotton seeds.
good luck 
||One Zeki maintains business as the other continues jobs for the Adders and another goes out to Bahari City and another could be roaming the Stars. ||
I keep accidentally wasting Fisherman's Brew and Fish Stew while fishing because I keep staring at Palia discord. By the time I return back to the game the buffs have poofed. 
I need to figure out a way for the goodest boy to start coming home with me instead of Hassian lol
How do you join a cake party?
check lfg-parties
Or, is it the day you catch a unicorn long nose fish?
That took me for.. ever..
But how do you join those?
You got this. It'll come to you... the next time you cast your line! 
i say, they make more cool fireworks
!lfgparty
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I just caught my unicormfish earlier today.. gorram RNGs lol
It's easy enough to prove... #📷│old-palia-screenshots message
has anybody caught the flametongue ray and if so , how long did it take you and where in kilima were you fishing
Thank you! 
That's definitely a plus side.. have you been grillin those bad boys?
I'd suggest making them into sashimi but I'm not sure where the too much gold line is.
3am-6am River south of Mirror Pond took about I would say 7 casts.
I've spotted the Flametongue Ray all over Kilima (rivers only), but I caught both of mine (star and non-star) in the area left of the bridge towards Bahari gate.
Oof
Sashimi is bahari rivers.. right?
new upcoming patch is exciting !!!!! 
bahari rivers without bait for sashimi
I'd go so far as to say it is spicy
omg, the starred duskwing 😭 finally
do you remember how long it took you?
Hmm, it took me a couple of IRL days as I took some random breaks in between, but RNG is indeed a fickle thing. 😔

all I need is starred rainbow and I have them all
anyone grinding palia?
I mean, we're all grinding Palia in some way or another... (not mining palium right now tho, no)
Woohoo! I finally caught the starred Rainbow-tipped yesterday! I was so elated. It was also my final bug to catch. 
So if the kanji character for congratulations is so offensive it gets automodded as a reaction, why even have it selectable?
How many seed makers can you have?
30 usable
anyone able to gift me a gold bar for honey lure? we doing a couple in bahari, add me to join!
how do I get into a cake party discord?
Why wont Jina let me ask her to be my shepp? Its been days since we became lvl 4 friends
i’m 60 gloworms in, no flametongue ray at all 🥹
did you do the level 4 quest?
Hi everyone.
Hello
I dont have this game yet. But ive watched some of the streams. Looks fun.
I send all the RNG luck to you. 
could i cook sushi or boulibaise with somebody? i dont have the recipes yet preferably trying to get starred
It can be relaxing and fun. It can also be frustrating but I get the impression the devs are aiming for the former.
I got invited to a community but when I hit accept nothing happens
anybody else?
add RaW reborn if you want a friend, and help
Its still open beta?
best try it out then only thing it costs is time so if you end up not having fun not too much of a lost
don't have an account yet use my referral code 😛
https://accounts.palia.com/sign-up?referral=f574e7df-1161-4966-8314-e8d185d669ef
Oh probably not
why cant I join the groups in the LFG channel
so, is it a common suggestion that we could order the built menu on the craft table by stile or by those we hadnt made yet?
it's a requirement so, probably that's why you dont have option
go to id:customize and sign up for LFG
how can i contact the support team for reports?
!LFGparty
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what day does the maji market end?
i need someone from the Palia team <@&830144903652311090> i wanna report something
the 26 I think, to be sure if you're in game the event tab shows days left
if i put 2 different fertilizers on my tiles , the effect stacks or gets replaced?
theres an event tab?
You're welcome to DM @raven agate to reach moderators!
replaced if put on same spot so like you put quality fert on then water retain fert, the quality will go back into inventory
Did someone not call out a palium spawn?
Will we lose everything once its fully released?
Aww, those are so beautiful I love those.
i honestly did not know that tab was there, wow
no, if that was the case I extremely doubt so many people would invest time into it
but sometimes when i put lets say Quality up +hydro, it does not get returned, and when you go to examine it shows them both in there ??
for the achievements bug, is it purely visual? i.e. i still can get the achievements but i cant what i need
Ty
maybe that is special 🤔
edit: like they both quality up just one is wet?
Wish you luck for another day! 
infact the only one fertilizer i have seen getting returned is the green one with leaf in middle, the one glow worms make
People repeatedly claim it is strictly visual but can't offer evidence or a dev post to that effect. At this point, the only thing it changes is whether I ever log back in.
I still managed to unlock the master bug collection when I caught my final bug, even though the visuals are reset. I can't say this has been true for everyone though, so proceed with caution if you're hoping to unlock some achievements despite what appears to be a visual bug. 🙈
i mean its wet as well , and in the G menu to examine it shows harvest boot and then hydro boost in the same tile
i only realised this after crafting half of the dragon set, would suck if i gotta recraft them
How come people get mad at you when you start to bug catch or hunt or mine with them? I've been told off about it a couple times in server chat
why would they ? thats so weird
If they get obnoxious, report and move on. Let the mods explain how resources work.
how do you use your fireworks
Bow I think
I was thinking like "HydratePro Fertilizer" and "QualityUp Fertilizer" since you can make qualityup become hydratepro
exactly! isnt that one of the appeals to the game.... i will never understand
@lucid forge ping
I'm sorry what
seems rude D: I am trying to think from their perspective, maybe they think you're trying to 'steal' from them or something? even though it doesn't work like that. but that's pretty uncalled for for them to get angry at you for just sharing resources. (I had someone call me rude for picking a sweet leaf a while ago when they were just standing seemingly afk next to it so idk)
you said you were getting pinged so I had to join in
sweetleaf is like everywhere
Just random pings? 🤦
exactly 
Resources are shared there’s no reason for them to get mad
potentially they are in parties and waiting on party members to join in for the loot.. but it's still no reason to be rude. Thankfully I haven't experienced this yet, most people have been real nice about farming mats together. Sorry that you've dealt with people like that, it's definitely not the sort of vibe Palia is supposed to be
Is it ok to ask if someone could share their download files? I'm having trouble with the installer error-ing out after downloading like 0.10% over and over, almost at 2% after restarting it 30+ times...
In many MMO's gathering resources makes them unavailable for someone else. Some player's of those MMO's probably don't know it's different here.
try different location
@waxen junco like in my kitchen?
yes, download and install in your kitchen, stove is a decent place to install palia. 😛 or another harddrive
I'm so hyped for this game to be on switch, i can't wait (even though I have to) 
@carmine pagoda lmao
@plush plover I think someone needs to be swept
that's just plain being a terrible person
I can understand being annoyed a bit about bug catching cause sharing that works so much differently than any other resource else BUT to voice that is another thing this is a cozy game no reason to be rude to others
I'm sorry you had to have that terrible experience hopefully you get some better servers
wierd, dont mind it. thats just loners
you can disable the chat channels you dont wish to be a part of... hopefully it works the same as currently
4 hour old response Nice
Someone could zip their Palia folder and Megaupload it n share the link or something 😦
yeah , Had to hit the jump to present ... my bad
Maybe the gold farmers in game would be nice enough to do that. They seem really pleasant and helpful.
What?
I see you devs and your strawberry jam emoji.... I see you..... >_>
All good. I think my record is 5 and a bit. Stuff happens.
wait the proxmity chat mentioned in the update is voice
or am i just misunderstanding?
text
I read it was just text , i didnt see anything about voice
can u gift one villager multiple times in one week?
Does anyone have a cake p
You can gift every npc daily irl day
once a day, or for me once every 3rd day for some
oh good cause I was getting sad
once a day gift , you can chat /flirt 1 time per game day ( 1 time per hour real time)
Do you have to wear the romance pins for certain quests or can you just do all at once without them knowing or commenting about each other 🤔🤔🤔
Cute dog
Are the golden glory bees used for anything?
Not at this time (to my knowledge), but always good to keep some in case they become relevant!
Can you imagine proximity voice chat in a F2P? It is pretty tame in EFT but that is from fear of getting a ban. F2P would be constant Reeeeeeee!
I feel like Honey is gonna be where the real money is at.... and you need to collect 100 bees one by one for max profit... I feel like that's how they are gonna get people bug catching.
Do we think they’ll fix the wiped achievement progress bug with this update?? 🤞🏻
Personally I wouldn't mind doing this. I would love this. 
Something has to get us catching those bugs!
No way of knowing but my gut says no
Day 18 1000 something glow worms 22 giant goldfish no sushi
you dont need to put the pin on ever it adds some dialogue and I think makes the romance bar increase faster
i just want flow trees to drop magic seeds i can plant on my lot 😉
Hopefully they take that idea and run with it honestly... it would help. Because everything else I have is level 20 something... bug catching has been sitting at a crisp level 9 for a long time....
😩 I hope they fix it soon! I don’t really have anything else to do but finish catching the starred fish for my collection but I can’t tell which ones I still need
But if I don't wear it the other will never know right 👀
I also wished we could placed starred Ruined Food. My internet went out for a minute and my recipe burned before my eyes. I took some pictures though. 
flow seeds
whoever was in that cursed cake party with exxia, thanks for your help
This would be cool!
It was wild at the end. But we made it! 
you printscreened it so you can get cake replacement? Please say yes
What do you think the flow tree grove will be like with the update?? I’m also excited about the path/starstones but I have like 20 small industrial rugs as paths that I’ll no longer need 😂
I was making the stuffed peppers recipe and while trying to add a chopped ingredient, it didn't register. And then it said server connection lost, and I saw my digital clock (tied to the internet) also go out. 
And so I sat and watched the timer for the recipe reduce to ash. 🥲
It will be in an inaccessible spot to tease us
I need an yes, please
Haha I'm sorry I'm afraid I don't understand. 
Speaking of inaccessible spots have you guys looked through the crack in the wall behind our house plots there’s like a big tree surrounded by water with benches around it. Wonder what that will be!!
Working on my abs is hard when i'm doing it alone! 😄
From what I understand, they won't be like, path items you can lay down. The "pathstone" was a misnomer from earlier in development, they're just gifts or sellable items
My guess, future boat dock to travel to other areas added later.
talking about ruined food I hope the ability to place star quality of it is added
no but im looking now
Ohh okay interesting I was hoping for paths for our houses!
Is zeki not giving out coins anymore to anyone else? I bought stuff from his shop 3 times in a row no coin. I looked in storage nothing. I think I havnt gotten any since I got a unique plush from him. 😦
Haven't logged in since Tuesday but was still getting my daily coin then.
Nah, in the article it says it's kinda like our birth stones. So for example everything in the zodiac has one of the four main elements. Just like in Palia it's only 4 elements. So if you take that then whatever element that person is that's the stone they would like most??? I THINK?
Also my brain went to pathstones turning into star stones I am so derpy...
I got one tonight, so it's still working
Do you have to be logged in to get the coin or something?? Really worrying...
I’ve been getting them. One every 24 irl hours I think
purchase an item from zeki's store, to recieve a coin each 24 hour
Oh. Ok. It's every 24 hours that's the issue thanks
Once per day, you just buy an item and the following 6 o'clock mail delivery, you get it in a message.
any amount or there's specific amount of gold we need to spend on his shop?
any item even the cheapest
Link to where this was explained plz?
Another thing I'm wondering is how does the || black market || work exactly? Does everyone see different items or is it the same for everyone that goes there? I keep trying for the || arcade machine || but no luck ._.
#📢│palia-news
It's the newest dev log link.
thank you
anyone know what the emojis in the latest dev notes are hinting to?
I think each server instance can have different items but for everyone in the server its the same items shown
I already said something about the strawberry jam emoji, it's also been in the icon in game so I am pretty sure we are finally getting strawberries. However there is also strawberries on celebration cake. SO my guess is they are probably reworking the recipe completely. But that is simply a guess. I'm just hoping to finally get my darn strawberries.
||you mean the jams obvs strawberry plants||
Probably. This makes more sense
i meant this part lol
are you talking about the redacted emoji?
yeah the redacted
currently the majority thinks it’s Hodari romance line, though it could also be the Hot Hounds recipe finally being added
whaaaat i was hoping it was Sifuu
Oh yeah that. Well what's been majorly demanded? Bounce ideas and see what we all can come up with.
Maybe some form of livestock might be nice...
what was the redacted emoji?
livestock pls
💪 🌭 ❤️ i think
arm wresting sifuu obviously is the first one. lol
Oh WAIT HOTDARI ROMANCE ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG FLAIL
That makes my old self happy.
||Shepping Tau obvs||
livestock has to be added at somepoint, right? with how much theyve talked about other animals that arent there yet. maybe the ability to tame our own plumehounds tho?
i hope so, especially with all the land we can unlock on our house plots
I need live stock to fill all my real estate.
theres no way we wont be able to get eggs and milk on our own eventually, i cant imagine that theyd make us buy from zeki forever\
livestock would be nice but hodari
I just need livestock to love since they still wont give me my darn pupper.....
a livestock plus a barn!
the lock box limit is really 300 only , with 3 chests allowed for 100 each, or am i missing something
they should also consider on adding more garden plots on Badruu
more soil plots, more storage!
Hodari gives me eggs so... does the math live stock equivalent ... carries the one yes. Romance. everything tracks. what everyone wants lol (pardon me, I'm not well)
I think they mightopen up the plot. If you go to the wall on the other side of your plot you can see some planing plots, a fishing area abd such through a crack in the wall. Looks really cozy
Soil 😄
I know I’m late to earlier announcement and apologies if it’s been said, but am I the only one who thinks the redacted words are ROMANCE HODARI?
and maybe remove the item limit we could place in our homes coz we have such a huge area to decorate
you mean HOWDAREYOU? i agree.
I think many thinks it's Hodari. maybe it's manifesting
I know there was a petition with thousands of signatures 😂😂
You missed my lovely caps fit about it. xD
Like I'm so utterly happy right now if that's the case.
Where can I find people posting their farm codes? looking for inspo ❤️ o.o
Oh really?! Glad It’s not just me!! I hope so! I need some Hodaddy😂
I want to adopt Najuma, with or without Hodari 🙂 maybe I can become a godmother! hehe
Agreed! They wouldn't let me take the dog home so they have to give me the hotdaddy in exchange! It's only fair. 🙂
Fair is fair 😂
I feel like once we reach max friendship with best boi.. he should visit us on our plot often.. esp. if the kitsuu shrine is out ^.^
anyone else getting dms on here from @hushed patrol for steam scams?
sorry if not allowed just want to make others aware
That would make a very interesting side story for sure.
speaking of best boi... I just got into my plot and there he is waiting for me with the next quest leg roflmao
Yeah he friend requested me so he could message me. Was promptly blocked.
same!
They’ll just pop up under another name. It’s gotten annoying
Very I've gotten like 3 today alone....
and they just joined recently and never said anything. reeks of sus (to be messaging random folks I mean- not that new people or lurkers are sus. To clarify)
i was hopeful so gave benefit of doubt
Wouldn't you know it the arcade machine showed up as I was debating getting the backpack lol
Oddly enough that's usually how it works. lol
I guess ill just get the bag space I can only sell at 6am and 6pm correct? No other way than the bin to earn cash..and no quests blahhh
im super excited to see the new hunting creatures
Anything bin-able can be sold directly at the general store.
O.o ok thanks
I keep forgetting that myself and always complain about how I gotta go back to home plot to get my coins
It is why I prefer to farm flow trees in kilima. I can repair tools and clear inventory without changing servers and losing my work.
That's a smart way to do it
I might have to try that way. Never farmed for those in Kilima, but you make excellent points
Thanks so much I got it just in time!!!
I am RIGHT THERE WITH YOU! thought the same thing 😝👏🏼🙌🏼
I am about to grind those maji tickets to for the plush dragon before the event ends
is it me or am i just getting only 1 plant fiber from chopping trees?
Does anyone know if there's a schedule when patches comes in? Wondering if the cake part patch is going to be closer to next Monday or Friday
the patch is on Tuesday
how do we get the game?
Major patches roll out every two weeks. If that helps.
Okay, thanks! We had a patch last week then?
how to get sunset stripe?
I’m so happy the floating net near Einar at the pier is still there. I honestly lot it and it’s mysteries
Oh, a lot of people are saying price of the cake is getting nerfed. I only saw them mentioning something about skill though, so would it not just be skill XP they're changing?
@silver rose do you still need it? I can send you one.
yes please i just got nervous because i thought this was the wrong chat for it ❤️
why would they do that? isn't the issue that nothing rivals the profits of cake parties?
Sure, but honestly with how expensive everything costs, it doesn't seem feasible to use most of the features in this game unless there's cake parties
They ramping up profits for mining
I mean, if you make a celebration cake all by yourself, you only get about 100 gold. If they decrease it even further or turn it into a net loss, it feels like they're just disregarding solo players at that point.
will there be more crops to buy in future update since i would love to have my garden bigger special when i got such a huge place
It sounds like they buffing other skills instead of nerfing cake
Data leak shows a lot of crops in the future. But we need more plots to plant things if that's the case
This is general so I don't see why it would be a problem, besides we should be all here to help eachother. The game is a cozy game, not meant for us to be all rawr. 😛 Anyway I sent some stuff to you, I hope it helps.
We keep seeing nests everywhere. Wonder if it'll be birds
im a little new what are cake parties?
i hope they add strawberris and other vegis to the game lots of option heheh
I hope we can make chocolate desserts
omg yes would love that so much
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Guide:Cake_Party
Hope this will help explain it

it's when a bunch of people get together to split the recipe tasks of cake... so you need the ingredients required for your role to participate (one role doesn't need ingredients though)
anyone and everyone that does a cooking task during a recipe gets the cake/food
Kinda random but is dialog volume not working for anyone else ? I was playing a couple hours ago & it was fine but now nobody talks 
do we have any idea what rebalancing the cake is going to mean?
im lowkey guessing that they are going to require less ingredients. therefore lower selling price.
hmmmm. is patch day monday or tuesday? i want to sell off as much as i can before then
when is the cake nerf update coming?
Probs after the weekend
could it be nerfing the worm farm?
It could but why would it
worried the cake update is gonna be a nerf
I wouldn't worry, it's definitely a nerf
lol
lol, figures I just got my cake party setup finalized
LOL. man. why didn't they just raise the prices of items instead so we still feel like we're rich. i'd rather them have countered it a different way. sigh.
this is so annoying 😭 if the better option for money is going to be endlessly mining for a chance at starstones thats absolute bull. it costs 300k gold for all crafting licenses + 125k for better storage like ??? Lower prices if ur going to nerf it and dont act like you're not. straight up goofy
also they talk about the economy. girl what economy we cant trade with ppl lol?? Get real rn
nerf list:
first hunting
then tomatoes
then easy to craft fireworks
then jams became junk for focus
now cake parties on the chopping block....
there is no economy without trading or an auction house. i probably would have quit over not being able to buy bag space honestly if it werent for cakes.
yeah, are we just not supposed to have a way to afford the insane prices of everything? Cake parties (sans a nerf) is the only thing I have left
i think the last bag was 50k? INSANE.
and 100k for the last chest
"and buff the economic potential of mining significantly." never been so irritated by smth in my life 😭 like there IS no economy brother.
amd yea 50k for a bag upgrade is insane esp considering theres basically little to no good ways to make money outside of cake parties. i grinded myself to near exhaustion to get 60k for that plushie and that was a single decor item. there is a genuinely serious problem when you have outrageous prices for things and no good way to make money. am i supposed to just not have a life outside of this game to be able to buy things
hola, any leafers in chat :3
update; we got them boys
i just feel like we need to wait to see the "nerf" before anyone has anything to say because we dont even know what its gonna be.
Hello! Does anyone know if you can get a starred version of Reth’s lettuce soup from the tavern?
Yes, but I also dislike this practice of revealing patch notes post patch.
its true that they have literally given us 0 information which is pretty maddening and stupid of them imo. "development update" but it just tells us vague information that stirs us all up and causes people to start panic baking cakes like their life depends on it. i just dont see how what they said could equal anything good in terms of cake parties
Never been to cake party but I got all storage and crafters fine. Just play game have fun.
fun to me is cake parties, I love them 🤷
Cake parties are the only way to afford basic things to make the game playable though, like backpack upgrades, storage updates, plots, rooms etc...
Oh? I’m okay with that if that’s the case, although it would mean cake parties will become a smaller group as well
And the issue isn't that we can't do them anymore, obviously they will be available. The issue is that if they are nerfed too hard it won't be worth the time and resources, and people just won't do them anymore. Today ifI want to go chat and hang eout and bake cakes, it's readily available. Nerfed too hard and it won't be. People won't bother with it and there goes that enjoyment. They REALLY need to tell people the nerf in advance so people aren't scrambling around and upset when it could be one that isn't significant enough to warrant being upset. But we have 0 idea.
I did it all without cake parties so not sure that is true.
Cake parties aren't going away. You can still have cooking parties for things other than cake too, with your friends and community. They're not the only way to buy things, they're the fastest though no contest.
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bonjour y a des groupe fr ici ?
It’s really expensive as is for people that doesn’t like to do cake parties
I can promise you I've never been to a cake party. I have had a friend or new person bake for me while I put up all the rest of mats. Unless your agreeing that it's possible
I'm just assuming it'll be bad because literally every other way people have made money is this game to date has been nerfed drastically and beforehand every time there was a vague announcement about ''balance changes" just like they just did with Cake Parities
I think they need to LOWER pricing of everything else along with the nerf. Balancing means making stuff like fishing, hunting, bug catching, etc. a viable way to make money.
Hunting got buffed. Can easily get 5k with 100 arrows.
That is without selling meat, I normally worm it.
10k about what you can earn solo in 1 hour if you try, cake blows that out of water with about 50k, so even nerf to 20k it would still be worth doing
animal spawns were nerfed a ton though
How were the hunting and tomatoes before the nerf? Spawn rate or price?
Hunting is drastically better from before. Even with the spawn rate nerfs, you just need to know the loop a bit better.
to make things jarring- you can up that to 130k if you glow worm farm every cake, and assuming youre getting the max value from cake from starred stuff.
yep, so even 1/2 of that is still very op
but there's also sweet leaf collecting involved, at least for the leafers of the group 🤷 I wouldn't wanna bother with gathering that AND doing a cake party on top of it for a measly amount of money
yeah, I cake party, glow worm farm everything, makes like easily 60k/hour. High and above everthing else in the game by a factor of 10
Just saw (and bought) an Industrial Cabinet that had different dishware in it and no glass on the front. I already have one that lost its' white dishware and thought that maybe this was a new one. Nope, it looks like the original one, without dishes. I paid over 2K for it... Wow... this is quite upsetting. My BAD, not the cabinet the Kitchen Pantry
i don't want to compete for mining nodes, it's really not fun already trying to get the palian ore
instead of nerfing "balancing" everything, they should focus on more furniture, better customization, ease of use, better chat, a real functioning trade economy etc...
hate to say it, but people working on customization and furniture arent going to be working on balance and bug fixes.
I hope they make batter as a role require actual input. Jam requires external stuff, leafs, etc. But batter (and worse oven) is just a buy in.
nah, trading would really break it
I understand its beta. but instead of nurfing something thats enjoyable maybe just maybe work on the bugs.
literally every other MMO has trading and an economy
I think the problem is how much time you’re spending to play the game though? Since if someone doesn’t have much time and want to explore or decorate, the high cost for stuff will prevent them from enjoying those aspects
i know it's not supposed to be easy, but this isn't a game i play to have stress, or i'd play something else. i like chilling and baking.
i agree the oven role needs a re-vamp. i do it sometimes but THAT is an annoying free pass. i did at least save up to buy in to my first.
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yeh and the gold bots are the economy there. What it will end up being is 24/7 bot cake sweatshops lol. Still people think that nerf would kill parties, nerf jam didn't make people not eat jam
You say 100 arrows like it’s nothing, but that can be a lot to those who just want to chill and decorate or explore
I think there is a misconception here on how dev work is done in a groups. You aren't having X instead of Y, you are having X and Y. With X or Y first.
The labor gets given to different people with different skill sets. Just because Frank knows how to code doesn't mean he can "fix the economy" with code.
There is definitely a problem with the "balance" of the servers. Seems that coding/configurations are not the same across them. I can be on one server and my Ranch House Fountains don't have water in them. I can walk out of the homestead and walk back in on a different server, and they do. Same with the grass in the tents. Sometimes it's really thick and long, other times it's minimal.
I still enjoy the game, but this definitely isn’t the chill and you can do whatever you want kinda game as they promote it to be, since you’re gold locked and can’t enjoy exploring or decorating without having a lot of gold first.
I'm happy they will nerf cake parties. If they didn't I'd probably quit playing. Way too easy to get money, nothing to farm for..
Were you expecting minecraft creative mode?
Still, it’s just beta, so hopefully they balance it well enough eventually.
I love how this game is taking on the opinions of RL things like doing a job (and the person doing that job is less important than another job because because they don't have similar investment as others, yet their job is just as important, and all together produce the same product.
the manager of a fast food place isn't more important than the person at the drive through.
Why yall placing values on a game like that?
oh these socialists XD
It might be my 12am brain but I have no idea what you mean
I'd also like to point out that a hundred arrows is nothing.
You get 20 at a time, so that's 5 crafts. So 5 iron bars.
That's only 25 iron ore. (+25 heartwood planks, but that is like 3 trees)
You can harvest 25 iron ore and 3-4 trees in under 10 minutes. Probably more like 15 if you don't know the quick walking routes.
Worst part of hunting was crafting arrows, time wise. And that has been fixed.
Well yeah the manager is more important
i disagree. not bringing anything makes you useless and i can just oven for you while contributing to another role.
no they ain't, lol, they aren't taking the orders, taking the money, and steering the customers experience.
Sorry responded to wrong person, you know who you are, lol
I am eternally confused why people care how others play the game, and why "easy money" matters. You don't have to play it that way. And someone else playing that way has 0 effect on your game 😂
They are objectively being replaced by machines and people ordering online. I'd say the fry cook is more important than cashier.
classic #💬│palia-general discussing the pitfalls of late stage capitalism.
I’m more pointing out I assume 100 arrows means you’re saying you’re killing 100 sernuks and the time it takes to do that
wait when did the hunting for money buff happen
Oven is the bourgeoisie, they contribute next to no labor yet reap the profits. All labor is equal, but some jobs are not labor.
down with the bakers, it's all their fault!
is the spitfire cicada super rare or something?
Rare but i wouldnt call it super rare
just annoying
Devaluing another player is not cozy yall....don't bring your real world silliness into the game. Yall fantasizing about pixel single dad, yet bashing someone because they havn't leveled enough to have 100 star jams or star sweetleaf, or 6k gold
mooching isn't cozy
Nah, baby sernuks aren't worth the arrows you put in them.
Elders take 4 arrows, so you get about 25 of them if you never miss. (And you will miss)
So you gotta' kill like 20 elders.
I must've missed something because that got aggressive real quick lmao.
can i not rent my house out as a palian airbnb. does no one want to live in a cottage in the middle of nowhere. does no one respect the economic value of a common blue butterfly anymore.
How in the world do you decide it's "mooching", it's literally part of the process, lol. You are bringing your personal experience into a place that doesn't think like that
I see, we’ll, you got to have good aim, lol. I have to use slowdown arrows so often and still sometimes don’t kill them.
To be clear, I was also bashing the 6k gold people too. 
I've spent way too long looking for the spitfire cicada lol
the most ive gotten from 100 arrows / 20 sernuks is like 4-5k am i doing something wrong LOL
It's really ok to let people get a hand up in a GAME, for pete's sakes. Who is Pete anyway? And why are his sakes more important than mine?
I believe here we have socialists arguing with communists
I for one dont care if someone wants to bake or ingredient share. Its just fun to bring a group of people together for chat and vibe.
I legit just caught one on accident thinking it was something new. xD
what arrows you using?
Just iron
yall are hilarious
Next they will be naming and shaming and burning witches in the town fountain
I'm jealous, where did you find it? Maybe I'll get lucky there lol
so I wanna join cake parties where do I go for that?
pretty sure elders go down in three shots for me using iron
sounds about right lol
are witches in the next patch?
Would it not be better to just have a means to gift people the furniture they want rather than a convoluted process of gathering new people together to duplicate cakes just to sell it so that they can buy a toilet or two?
I recommend buzzy jars and bahari
Set your role in id:customize , then head over to #1143270926394335282
I've managed to forget about buzzy jars, thank you!
there is already a witch, she is 200 years old and lives in the woods
Oh no, cake parties are getting nerfed. Gotto go caking while I can 😂😂😂
And I'm gonna' marry her 
No worries, its how I found my one spitfire luckily starred :>
I shall pray for you
I'd personal love a way to sell furniture to other players (like via trading system)
and here I thought running in circles for 2 hours then harvesting rice and carrots for 3.5k was the only sim I needed to be rich
I just want to give people stuff. Let people have fun.
I mean my prices would probably be low in comparison to furniture lol
there is NO reason we couldn’t have player vending with customizable storefronts that populate the server as market stalls tbh. like tbqh.
anyone want to help me hunt a proudhorned sernuk?
Yep. That went really well for Fallout 76
I need a yardsale system for trading makeshift furniture 😅 fishing for days and keep getting the same 4 items
I think there's a few reasons against that lmao
and then you see a trade of 300k for a piece of wood... m....
I long for the day where I can open a blacksmith shop, and sell players pallium tools so they do not need to endure the trauma that is pallium ore farming.
as a 76 player it unironically did. the issues were not with vending as a system it was ultimately with an inexperienced team pivoting a single player engine to accommodate multiplayer interactions
Exactly. I would help supply pallium towards this that I gather while absolutely decimating the local wildlife.
Why do we gotta' add money to this equation.
Okay everyone's let's theorize!
Who is the Dev Blog post talking about at the very end? 💪 🌭 💗
what would be good is legit telling people what we are willing to give away rather than a request system only, I am happy for this to stay free
ROMANCING SIFUU AND HODADDY
buff forearms hotdari lovin
I feel any economy would kill this game in a heartbeat. Gold sellers become a thing, the game becomes a X gold a hour fiasco like everything else, I just want a good request system where I can ask for tomatoes for ore or something like that
the request system is a bit harsh, 4 things every 24hrs irl time???
If it's not, let's stage a riot. (I'm kidding please don't.)
Look at the upset cake parties have caused haha
||it's obvs shepping Tau||
I think any more requests would just ruin the game experience. Having everything handed to you.
Can't let people live off the labor given freely by others, no sir. How would they build character? How would they feel knowing they didn't have to grind hours away?
Hey I was wondering, when someone joins with your referall code, where does the items go that you get?
it could be like every 8-10 hrs at least lol
Letting people gift anything but not sell to other players would be so much better than a player economy. Grand exchange is not cozy
Hotdari, hands down.
If you want a game where everything is given to you might I suggest sims? or minecraft creative mode? Stardew maybe?
Idk its a chill game honestly, I'd like to get nice cosmetic things, or achievements, or something to flex, but as someone who's farmed the 177 palium bars to craft furniture, i dont look at it as a flex, just "oh my god you poor soul"
just read the dev blog. good stuff coming
Everything isn't given to you here?
I got the hat but not sure where it is? 
wardrobe? (you can access one in jel's shop)
best spot to get garden mantis? ive been searching around fishermans lagoon but no luck
I want Hotdari, the dog, and strawberries. Give me livestock as a bonus and my life is pretty much complete.
lol i personally have everything i need, but i have too much. i try to shout out in server chat if people need anything . i wish it could be a different way like instead of JUST requesting, cant there be a way to offer to give stuff thru the system
That sounds weird like you're forcing people to take your junk lmao
Just leave hodaddy alone. It's hard being a single dad with a troubled daughter he doesn't believe without thirsty souls chasing after him, lol
i dont need 300 flow planks
I don't see it, says I haven't unlocked it. 
But the Step momma to Najuma life crisis side quest is a need too! T_T
How on earth is having a bunch of stuff people can take for free "forcing" them to take your junk
I see you've never given stuff away before in your life otherwise you'd notice the no dumping signs.
does every ingrediant need to be ⭐ to get star meal?
literally all i wanted to do was help ppl, but they gotta find something to be pissed about lol
One of the biggest problems free recycling groups have to deal with is how many people try to place rules on and maintaining control after gifting their junk they no longer want to other people.
It would be nice if you can offer stuff up in the request system, and it just autofills when someone requests that item
i'll take your stuff @rotund surge
I have given away a tons of stuff? What?
Dumping your trash is different from giving away materials in a video game. Nothing in this game is useless ||except Kenli||.
Think of it as a place you can just look at and go "Oh, I could use some heatroot"
There is no force happening. You have a choice.
hmm did you go to the news menu to accept? like open inventory and top right is one the the button near the X have a notice of like "1" or such??
If you follow the lake shore from the lagoon down to the docks (near the farm), there's a big open field that generally has them too! Where clay spawns on the shore, they also hang out there as well. Good luck!
I actually love that idea. If you don't need it, or want to be kind you can offer it to the community
it's a good concept, but you also have to find a way to balance the inevitable greed. especially if it can be sold for money.
So you understand the concept of free stuff being forced on right? So why did you ask?
lol
I like this a lot too
Nah, let people take it. If they really think they need to empty my stuff out to make some money - they get more value out of it then I do by just having it around.
No, you really don't. That isn't part of the process. Gift without expectations, even the greedy eventually get satiated. (but trying to place rules on gifting isn't about balances or your world view)
Just sounds like a buncha people trying to make it easier to sell gold here tbh
someone help me make starred mushroom soup 😭

Being that there is no way your gold amount affects my life, I don't care if you spend money IRL on the money on some shady site so they can spam donate you sernuk antlers to sell.
Ah so its back to selfish reasons and enabling bad actors. Typical.
wait whats this arguement about
Think we are talking two different languages at this point. Wowza.
I am confuse lol
lol, can you imagine the sweatshop job description? "Just kill that deer over and over again 10,000 times:
I feel like reading gen chat at night is like someone trying to argue 2 + 2 = cake
oh no what if they break the player economy 
also confused. how did wanting to share video game goods turn into this
They want the option to do a reverse request system where you can list stuff to give away. Depending on how its implemented it'll let people "give away" a tonne of cakes basically trading money. Which is what we're all currently getting spammed by in game, gold sellers.
They don't care about this at all as long as they can offload a couple of planks they dont want.
good description lol
if anyone’s played wizard101 before, i thinks system like their bazaar could work well. players sell unwanted items to a marketplace wholly operated by an in-game system. the stock of goods available for purchase at this vendor reflects the goods sold by players, but prices are fixed (scaling with current available quantity) and cannot be manipulated by players whatsoever. i think this would be a good way to offload items, make them available for other players, and make it relatively exploitation-free. *players are also paid for their items immediately upon selling them, so there’s no waiting period to see if anyone ever buys your stuff
right? there is a combination of fomo and pure all out jealousy going on here
God I used to love Wiz. Yeah a Bazaar system would be amazing for Palia
Interesting that all I want to do is give away planks I don't want when I am actually sitting here thinking I wish I could give all this meat, leather, etc. away instead of selling it for coins I don't want. Some serious projection or something going on, including putting words in my mouth I never said.
There are already gold spammers in chat. 🤣
Imagine a world where you never have to sell something to Zeki again. Bliss.
pretty much. they live in a reality where greed isn't real.
I'd love to be able to put items into the request system so people can just take whatever they need. Sure there might be people who take too much, or when they don't need it, but honor systems like this exist in real life and help a lot of people (eg: fresh fruit stalls without a person monitoring them, and trusting people to leave money in the box when they take fruit). :)
I just want to be able to sell unneeded furniture in mah selling box >.< At least to recoup some money for materials used on learning/doing the recipe lol ... I have little need for the majority of the log items among some other pieces
its good to keep for decor later on perhaps
Jon Bon Jovi's restaurants are free
cries in 900 wooden chairs in my lock chest
that system also wouldn't break anything, you could still only request 4 things a day
Do you guys know how communites work at the moment? Can you invite friends to join one you made?
Or, to deconstruct it so we can get some materials back 
why are people so concerned if others accept other people'
I still haven't figured out what it could even break?
You could literally just sell them in the shipping bin. Seems kinda sus now that you're acting as if making it easier for gold spammers is a good thing.
do you need specific baits to obtain specific makeshift items or can regular fishing get everything?
Even better!
why are people so concerned if other players accept other people's items being offered (which is not even a real thing rn, u can only request). like chill lol
apparently cozy sharing and helping is evviilll somehow
⭐ mushroom soup doesnt exist
Why are people concerned what's on another plot and how they obtained it?
My plot ain't hurt you!
it's about reality. there are a lot of people who have played MMOs and know how to game the system. they WILL take advantage of your kindness.
There have been times I wanted to help someone out and couldn't send over a star version of a thing on a request lol (namely seeds).. but the star was all I had
same but 150+ bellflower curtains xD
Does anyone's walls in their home randomly change wallpaper on it's own? Mine keeps doing it in a bunch of different rooms.
No! No gift giving in my cosy village sim! Everything had to be hard won through blood sweat and tears! If it doesn't make you cry, you don't deserve the life!
level up jina friendship
Either this is bait or I have fallen into the Twilight Zone where giving stuff away is evil.
I just literally said I do not want to waste my resources by turning it into coins if others could use it. If I could give everything extra I have away so others could use it, I 100% would.
That way people would not have to grind as much for stuff, they could spend more time having fun over whatever else like grinding money or for X material.
I am dying here. 🤣
It just seems like you dont care about anything but what you want so why even discuss this?
careful, people might say "youre forcing your junk on them" even though its their choice to see it and accept, or move on with their day lmfao
Not only do they want to grind for every single speck of sand on their plot, they want to force everyone else to grind exactly like they did so they feel like they earned something....
The problem is that when you play enough(even without the cake parties) money becomes effectively useless
she max i just cant get it starred lol
I don't think bait affects it, I'm not totally sure though sorry.
OH NO MY COUCH HAS LESS VALUE BECAUSE BOB GOT HIS FREE FROM FRANK
I will never financially recover from this.
I'm really jealous someone got a better deal than I did on that set of dishes in Tish's!!!!!!
prices dont vary by player
Someone GAVE you that!!!! HOW VERY DARE THEY!!!!! GRRRRRRrawr,,,,madface
I think its kinda clear these guys are bad actors
random question but does anyone know if the dev team has ever said they plan to add sheds/multiple buildings per plot
Well, yes. We do not have the required acting talent to fathom the view point of "Gifts evil"
So we have to ham it up a bit.
Alright I love yall who arent treating the game like its some WoW gold farming for raids or pvp, but I genuinely cant tell if this is satire anymore
Goodnight 
I've been able to get makeshift items from having both bait and no bait before! Regular fishing should be fine. 
I don't like Spam!!! It's made with ham!
I don't think they've said anything. But the fact we can get a gazeebo makes me hopeful that maybe, possibly, one day we might be able to? 
Bad actors as if we're trying to trick people. As if there are not other ways to discourage gold selling that aren't avoiding improving the game. Lmao
thank you!! i want one so bad 🥹
How would this improve the game? That it lets you give away more stuff to people who havent requested it?
Have a great weekend everyone. Goodnight/day! 
I've seen a few people use the tent as a workshop, which can look great for the time being :)
I do that! It looks good imo
they dont realize people WILL setup bots to just take it all
I can’t believe they cured cancer! Now the fact that my loved one beat cancer doesn’t mean as much anymore ):
That’s how ya’ll sound trying to say gifting devalues stuff.
I saw that people were doing that after I destroyed my tent
Hello sillies 👋
It's not that we don't realize, it's that we don't care 👍
Can i ask if anyone have experience not getting the mahi market arch ? I have finish it but still wasn't able to get it
The only ones saying that are the people being satirical lmao
You can craft tents
oh yeah that's what i do rn! it's good enough
PIKA!
Can you make a new one?
I've never tried but the recipe might still be in the workbench.
same issue as my friend
See id like to believe that but there was an honest to gods incel in here the last 2 days who was wilding out
Any more than the 3 or so dudes here just talking to themselves making up scenarios to play out?
Yeah I was actually holding onto the tent cause I figured it could be a useable workshop in some respects lol
this chat is not it lol, yall pressed about something that doesnt even exist 
I just got off but now i’m curious if i still have the tent recipe
it's really nice because you don't have to move your machines 1 by 1
It should be there apparently! :) so yay new tent!
you have I'm sure I just crafted 2 more tents so I have 3 now
A few regulars in here know who I’m referring to unfortunately 💀 I had to block him cause it got to be too much for me to handle
There's already a limit to request making anyway. If they want to make a bot to grab 4 leather per day then that seems like a massive waste of effort and an unnecessary risk of getting banned
i store all my treasure chests in the tent lmaoooooooo
Tent is the bottom of the furniture craft list
That's fair tbh, some people just cant be reasoned with. Best to block em.
Not to mention much better things to bot in this game then some requests.
oh perfect!
I hope the flare arrow recipe is the same as the old phoenix requirements 1 flint 1 sapwood for 20
i regret getting rid of some of my treasure chests in the early game, i hoard them so hard now
yup me too I threw them all
It’s not. Iirc it’s the lotus + flint + heartwood. It’s in the full post of the patch
Love the free stuff, but couldnt it of been star level so we could of used it for decor 😦
what do you use them for? i haven’t got a clue i’ve just been placing them beside each other and putting aquariums on them lol
decoration purposes
you can do really weird stuff with them, i use some of them as decor but i've seen people make chairs and stairs out of them
I use treasure chests as coffee tables too.
The flare recipe is in the dev blog :) https://palia.info/devupdate_09-2023
steps, platforms, makeshift wrap around porch, a maze
oh, I see I assumed it was secret cause info not on the discord post
good ideas, I really wanna start getting into decorating and making my plot pretty but I’ve barley expanded my land and just spend gold on recipes
place them closely side by side; they kind of butt up together
the treasure chests look really nice on wall shelves, in bathrooms, on the ends of beds, etc. and also if you want to make money easy you don't really need much to join a cake party and those can easily be like 60k in one go!
The dev blog is linked on the discord post :)
i wonder how badly they're gonna nerf cake parties
I have yet to join a cake party! Super interesting though i’m pretty new to the game
Or you could two end to end for a long narrow bench thingy against one wall; or a longish coffee table too
all this decor talk might get me out of bed and onto palia
I just got off Palia and into bed lol
I'm wondering why no one on dev team is thinking about having a mailbox or two in Bahari; so you could just post yourself the excess stuff overflowing the inventory?
this would be super helpful
put plants on them and fence around like a flower garden
Do gifts help increase romantic relationships? I don't get the little heart thing in the bottom right corner
so you would fork out 50k for a larger bag
I bought an Ice box fridge; and it wanted to replace one of my storage chests.
I'm guessing they will add a player mailing system at some point. It would be great to have :)
Yeah id say they're trying to discourage poopsocking
Does anyone know how to do the glitch where you put items in your display case?
yeah must have forgot about it
I think they do? idk if it had to be something they like or not though
I don't believe so.. I tested it a few times and it seems to be friendship only.. with the exception of romantic gifts.. like heartsdrop lily (I advise holding onto those if you are heavily a forager for the pin..) or chocolates
remove a storage chest, place icebox, then you can replace the storage chest again after
No worries! I do that all the time hehe.
Okay, I just wasted a soup on Reth since we already have max friendship and it didn't do anything for romance :(
I think that little heart thing means the NPC would love it. A thumbs up means they'd like it. No symbol means "Nah"
also does anyone know how long the wait time is to gift again?
Resets every 24 hours I think? basically next RL day
l *sorry yall my baby pushed buttons LOL
Once per irl day
Oh thank you. I thought I'd just bought a very expensive lemon.
chocolate and heart drop lilies are gifts that increase romance
Here's a question... what color combinations would you all like to see as furniture customization options?
omg i did not know this
where to get chocolate?
Heartsdrop are 'spensive or rare comparatively speaking.. so if youre doing it for increases.. stick with chocolates
for in game without worry of time zones and such you could look at the weekly want timer 🤔
Chocolate from Zek's store
You can buy chocolate from Zeki's shop :) 
I haven’t gotten to level 3 with anyone yet so I can’t give chocolates yet :/
Black and purple, black and red, blue and black.. 😉 honestly? I'd love to see dark woods or stonework like marble.. introduced in color combos more.. that is since we dont have the typical dye system one would see in an MMO 🙂 oh and I really really want to be able to tint/color the wood beams and change out ceilings in the house 😉
What about black and white patterns?
you will don't need to rush it
black gray white and def dark purple.
Ooh also some grayscales would look nice
And citrus green and gold are nice too in small amounts
I'd love some different colors with copper or gold accents. The chic furniture only has the gold on the default color, but it would look good to have that kind of accent on other colors too :)
also forest green
the only npc I rushed to lvl 3 are those who gave apple and blueberry bushes seeds
Is there a cap on skill levels?
Just started playing a few hours ago, and man what a pleasant game.
Loving the soft fable-esc graphics and cozy fantasy vibes. I appreciate the depth and uniqueness of the world and races and creatures.
and Teal blue
And I want solid wallpapers and maybe like pastel/faded shades. Mostly something that matches furniture color options better. I'm struggling
not that has been found, I heard of someone having cooking level 500
A lot of our gothier hearts lean that way and the wall availability doesn't look as elegant with say the ravenwood set.. or even the recolored moonstruck or bellflower sets.. would love some additional dark walls, floors etc 😉
Hi and welcome to the community :)

500, really? iv pl;ayed 1 day-ish and i have 5 mining and i feel i over did it
Oh my god yes! Please! Solid wall colors, and flooring that isn't so patterned too.

That's a much better way to describe it than I have been (fantasy fortnite-ish) and I will now use that lol
Some more toning neutrals would be great
i want pastel that match with the green/pink furnitures
For the first time ever i saw some players get mad in game. As some players did not announce some rare materials, took them and left
When you put down for large areas, it can get overpowering when the pattern is so busy
lol
absolutely.. this is an issue I noticed even in Second Life 😉
The ability to out down only a small amount per room would also rule
I saw people talking about that on reddit happening a lot I haven’t experienced it though
In DDLV too
Yes! That's my favorite combo and I just have my walls bare cause I can't decide on anything that goes
Also does not feel like something that should be complained about really. Some people may want to solo play
true!with all those patterned wall its hard to decide
honestly? I dont fault anyone for grabbing a rare if people arent around. if they have time constraints, they cant be sitting around waiting.
in this game is no fight? monsters? dungeons ?
I've put in two fireplaces, different rooms. Sometimes when I log into home plot, they both are working. sometimes neither are working. Sometimes just one is working. Is this a glitch, something to do with time of day in-game, or is it "server dependent" issue?
yess it’s also hard to wait around if your getting a couple minutes in before work or something
Oh there were people around, they just did not announce it was there and grabbed it.
i mean you got a glider and your combat is chasing a deer with a bow and arrow oh and no dngs at all
Only "combat" is hunting and the inner conflict of making NPCs a little sad
also, sometimes might just not feel like waiting 5 min for people to show up..lol
Correct. No dungeons. No fighting.
or to be fair, they may not play the game to talk to other people, some people play mmo's for solo content which is also fair. Play how you enjoy and have fun
Other games - plenty of dungeons...lol
Yeah im the same i dont have time to sit and wait for 8 or so people to show up. Im just going to collect my item and go
You can do hunting for food. :)
where. are the beards.
its a cozy casual game with community interaction elements but those of us who are more introverted players can choose to be a bit more isolated for the most part (me being here interacting is pushing myself out of comfort zone of lurker)
I am a world of warcraft and DnD player, so being social has been getting easier for me
Question: does anyone have fireplaces which sometime work, sometimes don't?
My fireplace just works
yes especially when there are sweet leaves around and you want to pick them too
Been playing MMOs since Everquest lol.. I was very social and slowly got tired of it all and just started sticking with solo play in MMOs 😉
Don't be alarmed, but there seems to be one in your profile picture!

WoW and DnD you really cant solo play LOL, not if you want to do all story stuff
I played WoW, mostly solo 😉 mind you.. just not at any point in recent past.. at most.. with a friend who I often play with.
any dungeons and things though for WoW?
I'm also an ex WoW player hehe 🐮
I played Guildwars mostly solo...
ff14!
i’m certain the redacted bit on the dev update is “romance hodari” 😌
Did some.. Just wasnt into it after doing Raiding and such in Everquest... burnt out 😉
Oh im not an ex-player, still on going for 17 years for WoW
that's the guess and if it's not there will be chaos lol
oh god my Hodari!~
Hodari offered to invite me for dinner today...hmmm - but not an actual quest
I am going to romance Jina, if i get the option.
he's given me some shy embarassed vibes after reaching friendship 4.. its cute haha..
Nice! I used to play with my husband's family, so when they all switched to GW2 I did as well... And eventually they all switched to FFXIV so I did too lol. And then they all got too busy after a few years so no more mmorpg buddies for me lol
I love being a silly little person / RPing in the game but generally don't like interacting much outside of it. This game is kind of an exception because it's a beta
I told Naio I liked him but he asked my help instead to bring something to kenyata
if starfield can come out the gate swinging and let me marry the emotionally unavailable cowboy with a clever daughter he’s overprotective of, then what’s going on s6
Saaame.. I stick with games I can play casually for that reason.. RL gets in the way often haha.. even if its just heckin tired after a day or week of working
me when he asked me to get him ingredients so he can go on a date with kenyata
dense himbo
hahaha yup thats the one
Hassain is the best. "Next time I'll walk you home" got me in the feels
Speaking of tired... I should probably sleep lol.
G'night everyone

goodnight!
Wow. talk about friend zoned
I think Nai'o is trying lol. He wants to do the right thing but poor thing is oblivious as to what the right thing is.
he may not know what he's doing but boy is he going to do it so much
Kenyata is always standing near the stables tho waiting for her right man LOL
I’ve got odd taste in palia, everyone’s talking bad about reth to me and hassian is always dismissive but i’m determined to get around it
I am going after Jina, i like her personality, also IRL i want to be an archeologist, so its a good fit
I chased Hassain down, baby. I've got his pin. He's the best
Jel + Reth for me ^.^ I'm even building them rooms in mah house ;D
Reth is the best
Well i like Nai"o coz he gives free food lol
the polycule is me, nai’o, reth, einar, and our unavailable but warming up to the idea dad that is hodari
Hello
I will fix hassian if it’s the last thing I do
wait, you can poly in this game?
Hassian has a hard and guarded exterior (probably because of Tamala) but a very soft hearted romantasist once you get to know him, lol
yess reth and hassian but I do want to ask hassian to be my shep i think so i wonder if that’ll affect the romancing
but also Tamala 
Reth has my heart. Hassian is lovely too. But I gonna date them all for the juicy stories lol but shhhh
Give Sifuu
I don't think so. Reth is hardcore flirting with me, and he's my chep - I mean chef...I mean Shep
I wanna tame Hassian to be honest
Yeah I want to see the storytelling for all of them 🙂
Fat mood we can fix that man
perfect news
Reth is the kind of guy I wouldn't date IRL. He's so self absorbed, lol
Reth be making me blush and giddy in real life lmao
essentially, yeah. there's no limits on active relationships, just how many pins can be worn simultaneously. which, in game, increases romance track progression rate and may provide some additional dialogue about it but for gameplay is a romance track progress buff
you all have far more patience for hassian than i do. i see this man disrespecting his mom irl it’s on 👏🏻 sight 👏🏻
I want to know all the lore there is to be offered.
Hassain really likes food gifts...preferably chappa steaks lol...actually get friendly with Sifuu, and you'll have a hunter for life
I’ll date his mum in spite x
Right? Also he’s just rude af. I don’t wanna deal with any of that.
As someone who loves Hassian, I too wanted to deck him for the disrespect... but he ain't all bad
proud to identify as a hassian hater
okay but hassian writes poetryyyy I need some of that
Give him a chance 🙂
i already got a real man giving me attitude, i dont need my game man to do the same lmao
Something wrong with me; I found it a challenge and therefore attractive
I’d say this but my boyfriend is like the nicest man idk why I’m tryna seek out some bad boy 😭
alternate life
You and my irl bf... I can't hate 'cuz y'all are justified 
is there any flow tree groups
I pat Einar on the head and hang w Tish till I can date Sifuu
I don't know but I always fell for bad boys...its kinda challenging to me LOL
I started playing today and I’ve been up all night because it’s so addictive 😭
Hassian just can't compete with the unimpeded RIZZ of the other bachelors (excepting Nai'o)
this is me, i come home from work and immediately get on
Why can’t we date miner daddy. I want a piece of that
Say it with me folks
If you have to work for basic levels of common decency 👏 they 👏 don’t 👏 deserve 👏 you 👏
🤣 I was going to reply and then I saw the edit and I'm cackling
nai’o’s “heart of gold, dumb of ass” aesthetic pierces me to my core, truly
we all want a piece of him with his extra baggage
LOOOOL I tried to rizz him up and bro just isn’t having it
See this is why I want Sifuu
when Reth says "you like bad boys dont ya" 
ahhhhh facts
you take that edit back immediately
the lip bite has me screaming lol
Yes sir.. yes I do!

I was struggling with that market task where you have to find the orange things
Reth wanting to skip having dinner and having just dessert... what a line... but you know... it WORKS
I need to stop spam clicking through dialog cuz i have missed some wacky things
You really shouldnt spam click... unless you want kenli as your shepp
I'm gonna be dancing in the rain if we can romance Hodari after the update!
this is so real
same idk why the format is swapped for his convos usually the shepp button is at the top but his is at the bottom
I’ve learned my lesson some of them have some crazy things to say
this implies i ever talk to kenli for literally any reason ever
I love when Elouisa tells me about the frog people
I wasn't intending to get so into Reth at 1st TBH.. I was like Jel all the way! and then omg the stuff Reth was saying had me feelin some kind of way...
Our mayor has no contribution,only making his belly big
me toooo I was like.. wait a minute
He definitely has the advantage of being up front about how he feels!
i will grant him ONLY that he is a loving father. other than that i want him out of my house
I want Kenli and Eshe to get a divorce
leavin sammiches errywhere
Kenli would be a much better man if he wasn't so spineless.
Kenli would be better in a culture that didn’t force him to take on a role he obviously isn’t suited to
i want nothing more in this life than for kenli to grow a pair
I kinda wonder if Eshe divorces Kenli she would lose her governing pos
Honestly I love Kenli I think he's good-hearted, if entirely without any kind of confidence whatsoever
i hope there is a community event where we do a quest to vote on whether we save their marriage or not
Probably but that's not the reason why Eshe won't divorce. Mariage is a comitment and in Palia people just don't break comitments.
We all know Eshe really just wanted ||Kenli’s sister|| and when she got ||dumped|| she went for 2nd choice
she would, since she married into the position essentially by being, in her words, tricked into marrying kenli by his sister. or at least that seems to be the implication and as to why she deals with him despite not wanting to.
that would be fun or steal eshe from kenli
I feel like through dialogue you find out she did love Kenli at some point... and she definitely wont divorce him. The Maji are all about commitment apparently.
i want the mayoral election questline. i’m voting for ashura
i also just want to relate more to kenyatta but that's a bit personal 👀
I dont like him that much but just for chaos I'm voting Zeki
I want Kenyatta to have a personality outside spiting her mother
well yeh, basically she can't divorce cause it goes against what she believes in, and also she would rather die than losing her position as governor
Hotdari said something about wanting sernuk soup today and suggested I make him some so he could eat it, then did some cute flirt animation that just swooned me. I keep saying it but idc, he's the only one I want aside from Tau cuz doggo>men
There is dialog? >.> <.< .... I will admit the romancing/befriending stuff is not my primary focus of the game xD
Oh I love Zeki eventhough he's a ripped off lol
I'm sure she wouldn't mind leting it go if she could become the Duchess
yeh, except she can never be cause this dumb bloodline thing
How long until I can flirt with a villager again?
Let's organise a revolution. We'll take over the capital for Eshe.
The dialogue is quite good! I find myself regretting skipping through it more often than not, which is rare for me
once per in game day
I would honestly XD
Which one is Eshe again?
I want to meet Eshelon, Kenyatta's cousin.
I'm so close to level 4 romance with Reth but idk if it's worth staying up until I can flirt again
Eshe is the imperious lady married to the mayor. Has a cane and tall collar
this is a decision i have to make every night
My insomnia gets me there. lol

Oh right, the snooty one with the rude daughter
i choose instead to simply love women
Kenyatta grew on me like a good friend though, I understand that spicy sass all to well.
Picked Tish for my shepp quest. She seems the most normal thus far
Dating her just makes me sad lol, like a bag of meat to anger her mom 😆 good thing I’m dating everyone
What is shepp short for?
I picked Sifuu. Cuz her level 4 friendship quest and well the whole story with her wife got me. I originally was trying to hold off for Tamala.
She goes from dating you only to anger her mom to actually wanting it to last
Kenyetta grew on my as a friend and I maxed friendship and I liked her growth then started romancing her and now I don't like her anymore
it's a maji term that means someone that trusts an outsider enough to become that outsiders more or less adoptive family.
I guess I’m not that far yet cause she still asks me to go make out in her moms office when she’s in there lmao
Ah in game thing gotcha
when does a new in game day begin? 12am? 6am? I wanna flirt with reth again we're so close to lvl 4
6
It's also been transferred to a Discord term for people that help out newbies and stuff, they have a little teal icon by their name
I always thought it was short for Shepherd. But I kinda hope I'm wrong on that.
9pm pst is day reset
Nah its 12am, 6am and 6pm is just when the shipping bin does its thing and your plants progress a tick.
Ooooh I thought they meant irl, my bad please ignore
I picked ashura for shepp, figured as a human who came out of nowhere.. a nice parental figure that was age appropriate was good to have as one lol
Dad-Shura
I wanted Ashura but I hit level 4 with Tish first and I wanted the quest gone 😆 She’s a sweetie though so it’s fine
I want Ashura to be Santa for the holidays 
yes and Ashura is so open and accepting in matters of paths, well being and happiness so that also drew me in. Full supportive papa bear
I un-pined this quest so many times so I could target Tamala
not entirely sure on their like, linguistics in regards to the words for their in game language terms, but i think it's its own word, at least, i haven't found any official info explaining the real life word derivatives. just that the closest terminology is adoptive family.
I walk in every day and go ‘hi dad’
can you buy the homestead recipes?
Tamale is the witch with the awesome house right? Dont think I have ever spoken to her. Need to change that next time I am logged in
I agree with that, Ashura is very much a dad figure in my eyes. So is Badruu (I know I spelled that wrong but i'm not in game to check) his planty dad jokes are great.
Yeah, her house is AWESOME, and I dig her vibe.
Shepp is also mentor
Don't deprive Kenli of this pleasure. He likes having good times with villagers too much. And I'm sure he will put Kenyatta in a role as well. She's already an elf so that works.
Sifuu is Mom and Ashura is Dad
must be nice having ur dad in the default world space. must be nice not having to trek out to the hills to hunt down pickaxe daddy. must be SO nice. 🥺
she also definitely has a moonstruck door, so im excited for the potential of getting different doors haha
Does the shepp thing ever come back into play because I will regret picking Nai'o if so
THEYRE GONNA NERF THE CAKES?! 😭😭😭
Not so far but maybe in future. I guess we shall see. 👀
they called it "rebalancing" but I heard nerf
so far, no. but that may be due to the fact that the furthest that story thread goes currently is the ceremony with you and your shepp. so, there could be more to come, but if it had any drastic changes in terms of what one villager does or gives in contrast to another i'd be super surprised. at most it migtht be different dialogue if there's some part where we need to talk with our shepp or they help us with something.
Shepp and what it is...
"Having a specific NPC as your 'Shepp' doesn't really have any special benefits instore. As of now, choosing a specific NPC to be your Shepp is purely a subjective choice based on preferences with no special treatment. It is merely for the completion of the quest."
- Palia Player Support
(I received this answer bc my Shepp quest bugged and gave me Kenli and they could not revert it)
If you hang around Killima village at the right time, pickaxe daddy comes and stays at the inn for a bit.
Would make sense to me honestly. I mean technically we just appeared with no family or friends so they kinda had to adopt us.
Better start my cake party soon then, I need money for the last plushie
not yet
he does but it’s super brief. the maji market has been a godsend
live laugh love hodaddy
oh no i haven’t even done a cake party yet am i screwed
Ew. No
They said they’re not nerfing but ‘balancing’ so I’m sure they’ll still be profitable
sounds a like a nerf by another name
also how is there no Hodari emoji or sticker
okay only been playing a week so i just fish and hunt 🤷♀️
definitely need nai'o and hodari emoji
i think other things should be rebalanced to be worth more money tbh. like cakes can take a nerf but maybe catching bugs could be worthwhile too
they're going to make mining more profitable with "starstones" that are similar to birthstones
If bugs were monetarily worthwhile 🙌
I have a problem with Reth, I think. Everytime people talk about romancing it him, I have Michel Polnareff spawning into my head singing Love Me, Please Love Me.
I love mining so that’s great news
it??? lol
Newish to the game and the dev team, what sort of timeline are we looking at for this?
Sorry I was sneezing irl when I wrote that xD
So when they said about rework on cakes... then did the strawberry jam recipe... my brain thinks we are getting strawberries and well it's gonna change up the cake recipe to probably make it a lot more complicated/harder to do I at least assume along those lines. I HOPE that's the case because right now that's the only real way to make income that's well a nice chunk thanks to the wormie crew.
mmmm strawberry cake...
reminds me that the image of "any jam" on cake always has me like 👀 what is that
I like mining, but the iron gods have not been nice to me, lately. I've been mining lg and med lg irons, but also everything, for the respawns. in 3 days, not a single gold 
At least the cake will visually make more sense roflmao
I was thinking we should have to catch bees 1 by 1 up to 100 and as you increase on bees you can produce more honey and that's where the money is.
Yes! It's been confusing. Like what happens to these blueberries when they get baked??
i feel like an apiary is inevitable. it slots so nicely between bug catching and cooking
Hi guys, im downloading the game for the first time. After beta this game will be free or what price?
the jams on the "any jam" image when cooking is so smol i cant tell what they could be but i want to know
lol
One is def strawberry, the other I think is either plum or grape
Still free. Money is only for cosmetics
Agreed and it will really really help give people a reason to catch bugs more. Which we need.
I also hope we get farm animals for eggs, milk etc. Even if it takes a while for them to add them.
if they put grapes in this game i’m opening a winery immediately
Mmm plum jam sounds delicious
thanks! i appreciate that. that def makes sense from what i could guess too.
So, if we do get blessed with a Hotdaddi Hodari romance, who's pin are you trading out? Cause like, sorry Nai'o, but I've got priorites.
Game looks great, im tired of constant fighting games LOL
reth is being demoted to side chick and it’s not a tough decision
Do we know if the rarity of the sushi recipe is getting looked at by the devs?
Ngl, already gave em a few bucks to change into something nicer than my newbie outfit
I started to romance Nai'o but sorry young buck, your friendzoned now... theres a real man available.
Gotta do all day 24h cake party till patch cuz I aint trusting anyone I need that gooold
I wasn't planning on romancing anyone but Reth, but I will totally cheat on him with Hodaddy if that becomes an option
NOW IF THEY MADE ME CHOOSE between a relationship with someone or just adopting Tau... IM TAKIN THE DOG
I'm still keeping the pins I have. Waiting for potentially meeting ||naroo|| to decide if I swap out a pin
If adopting Tau was an option, I would just follow him around 24/7 until he came home with me.
REAL! i'm holding out for ||soldier boy with daddy issues||
I really dislike naio, which is too bad since farmer dude would be something id like..
Is the lvl 3 romance quest with Kenyatta bugged? because it keeps telling me its available but I havent gottem mail from her or anything
why do you dislike him? just curious
||IMMEDIATE thought since he was mentioned I was like oohhhh yes... better have the family genes and better be romancable.||
I did too at first, mainly cause his creepy smile, but he's such a silly sweetheart.
I don't like him, either. I grew up around too many vain cowboys
Naiio just seems like a himbo to me. Cute but sort of vacant
omg i thought badruu was so creepy when i first saw him loll, i really like him now though
I feel like I need to find who you are talking about because I have been kinda mia from this discord until tonight lol
Nai'o is a kind idiot that stresses too much over his desire to please everyone. He needs therapy.
He's not vain, he's very much unsured of himself.
i'm a city slicker please send your buff cowboys to me immediately
The way his character looks (not into blonde)
Did his friendship quests to 4, his lack of social awareness?? Or w.e it is that he doesnt listen to ernest answers/advice
you'll learn who it is through friendship quest. I won't spoil
He talks about his physique way too much. Reminds me too much of my cousin, who also loves to go shirtless
is your cousin single
Sending me poo in the mail lol
I have a feeling it's going to be difficult to play again today... I can't get in or out of my pitch... I thought I was going to enjoy it a bit... At the moment it's almost every day...
what is maximum housing/plot slot? then one when you press H and pricing start from 50k to 75k etc. mine currently on 150k but have any of you guys reach the cap?
I want Tau and his Dad tbh, that’s where my heart belongs
but he's a farm boy and he loves his farm animals and his family.
i'm not sure who my favorite character is, prob either reth or auni
I bought the fireplace, but I can't see the flames,my daughter can when she comes to my plot does anyone else have this problem?
Well, he has a wife, and I'm not sure if he's looking for anyone else. But, hey, if you can get past his blatant racism, I'll ask him, for you
Oh, and he's skinny buff, not weightlifter buff
it might be your graphics settings! try to put them a little higher up
read your own cousin to filth in the palia chat. absolutely brutal
Anyone here romancing Kenyatta??
I am LOVIN this chat tonight!! y'all are great!
I'm a complete derp and I just realized who you are talking about. I agree with all of that. ❤️
I’m romancing everyone, playas gonna play 💀
Naio wins in this case, despite being a digital character.
Kenyatta was tempting, but as soon as I found out that she and that dude had a thing it was like "I don't wanna be a homewrecker" xD
Easy way to avoid that is to date them both 😄
your profile picture is so cute sstop
Goood morning! 🍄
I like hassian a lot but in rl, he might be too serious or stifling to be around? But he may would lighten up with a healthy relationship
oh wait i haven’t gotton to level 3 with anyone yet so i can’t even gift chocolates
Hassian best boy, very romantic 10/10
I love Reth
omg hassian was so angry at first, like i'd just be talking to him and i'd say something and he'd start growling at me 😭 i really like him tho
I'm now torn between Tish and Tamala, but Tish is currently winning, though mainly because she's easier to get to 😅 (Also manic pixie vibes, can't fault them)
Hassian: Are you still talking to me?
Im having issues with Kenyatta, broke it off with Tish
@raven agate the "FU" dude is back 😭
<@&830144903652311090> someone replying to everyone with fu
Its really cute lol
Oh hey FU person is back <@&830144903652311090>
i'm probably gonna go for tamala because tamala
Tamale! Best house.
Gotta test something -
Kung
lmao
Ok,thank you
Oh dam
you can add an n to the FU to make it spell fun lol
That’s hilarious, my friend also calls her Tamale. I like her a lot, very sassy.
The real choice: Tamala - Hodari - or Tau.. the final showdown for who will win my true devotion. lol
Reth is my top dude he def has his flaws too though.
I will say I love how nothing is really locked behind the romance quests. Sure some lore, but there’s enough of a community here you can get the details pretty easily
I love Reth. He cracks me up.
Looks like I won't be able to enjoy cake parties to there fullest. 😛
Only thing I don’t like about Reth is his bad boy voice line, makes me cringe lmao
Someone know more about changes of flows? I like it this way when we need chop around area to spawn them. Hope now we get someting simillar...
Hassian is a bigot, and rude. Tamala is... just no. Tish is... I mean, I used to build furniture, but the girl is so single minded. Jel is... I'm worried I'd break him, unless he really is the vampire he looks like, and that's not my thing. I already have a goth GF, so I'm ruling out Kenyatta... for now. For Nai'o, see my earlier comments. Reth is is... I liked him at first, then he irked me, but now I know he's def a bad boi
, he's back on the list; in fact I think he's the only one. ... Did I leave anyone out?
I have all of the pins except for Einar just so I could do the quest lines.
The only reason I don't date Tamala cuz I respect Hassian
He's the sweetest person in the game imo, one of them "if you get to know me" types 😂 I won't spoil anything but he has a lot on his mind which is why he's so rude I guess? 😭
Missed Jina
hassian can't stop me she's too bad
Oh, didn't know there was a Hassian/Tamala thing
If they do actually add marriage eventually.. I'm gonna have a tough time picking between Reth and Hodari..||Who am i kidding, I've been such a hotdaddi simp||
Tamala is just too high maintenance. I am not hauling my butt all the way to her house every day just to talk to her
Eloise is wackadoo, but I don't dislike her. Celery can go away, sooner the better. Jina... Not sure I really want to date her and Hekla, and they're sort of a package deal. Einar... maybe.
Any sign of the new furniture blueprints yet?
I have Hassian pin 😍
let us date einar
I made it simple for myself: I'm not dating any of them.
I don’t dislike any of the characters tbh, I think they’re all fun, especially the mean ones.
Einar for that unusual hookup
you can date Einar
tamala girl just like give me ur snapchat and we can go to brunch on the weekends. don't make this difficult
Tau ate them
Nai'o has a bad boi line too. It makes me smile like a doof everytime
He’s lucky he’s the best boy then.
Not spoiling it for ya
the mean ones are really rewarding, like hassian just started being nice to me today and i was like YES
I think we can date Hekla too right?
This is pretty much where I'm at... except I keep going yes/no/yes/no/yes/no about Reth
You get me
Couple of his dialogs melted my cold dead heart lol.
@radiant shard
I havent gotten to r4 with him yet, but hes my 2nd fave despite what i said earlier lol
He didn't -eat- them. Only slobbered on them and chewed them a little. You can still read them... sort of...
To see which villagers you can date you just have to go through the list and see which ones have a hidden progression line bellow the friendship one. Simple.
No, she doesn't have a romance bar. But like someone else said, dating Jina would be like dating Hekla too.
oh my god you weren't joking you can. you can date einar. this changes everything. oh my god
Lol
RIGHT?! I'm with him and Reth but I prefer the Hassian Dialogue & even the questline for his pin made my heart MELT. 🥹
Einar is my second favourite after Hassian
He's quite a prize, Einar is.
People keep saying this, but he was insurmountably rude and bigoted, from the git-go. I've no intention of giving him a chance. I don't even want to start the Tau quest, because I'll have to chat with jerk face
Yeah, idk why I thought she did. >_< I'm not in game so can't verify some things.
I feel like Einar would try to feed me worms
stepped away, missed a bunch, just caught up... responding to the novel of a rant... I hate Celery too. Worst vegetable IMO