🗒｜pronunciation

[sacred badger]

You sound Filipino/Indonesian

[sacred badger]

It's the truth, u sound very asian

[steep kayak]

Thanks 🙏 you’re far too kind. I will probably find some grammar book etc in the future though to enhance it further

[sacred badger]

Do whatever what's right for you.

[steep kayak]

I know, I did this while I was busy. So it’s way too short.

I will work hard for it

[sacred badger]

Which country

[sacred badger]

Work smart, not hard

[chilly pilot]

Dad from italy 🇮🇹 mom from malta 🇲🇹

Born and raised in malta

[sacred badger]

Interesting,

[chilly pilot]

Wyf

[sacred badger]

Never knew people from Europe can sound like that

[steep kayak]

That’s true 😊. Y’know what I mean 😎

[chilly pilot]

Thats lowkey racist

[sacred badger]

You seem to love that word a lot lol

[chilly pilot]

Ye

Wanna 1v1 on fortnite

[sacred badger]

yee

[steep kayak]

If anyone know a good podcast let me know 😊. Though idk what accent I will aim for, probably something more natural, California probably. Maybe LA, idk

I don’t have any natives to talk to either 😂

[sacred badger]

BBC

[steep kayak]

BBC?

Is there an app for it?

I guess BBC is short for something

[sacred badger]

It's not a podcast

It's a news channel

[steep kayak]

Sounds good

Don’t mind that

So I guess it’s a website?

[sacred badger]

CNN and BBC provide high level of English

And very advanced vocabulary

[sacred badger]

Web, Youtube channel, app

Everything

[steep kayak]

Oh what’s best?

Their app?

[sacred badger]

https://youtu.be/vK4y6C1Uuhw

[steep kayak]

Oh this is amazing, wonder where most people from that channel are from

[sacred badger]

They talk about news, it's an American channel

[steep kayak]

I will study this ❤️

I get that

I’m just tired

[sacred badger]

If you're into news or politics, you'll be able to learn from it

[steep kayak]

So I kind of not making a lot of sense right now.

[sacred badger]

They use very clear and advanced English

[steep kayak]

Basically I wanted to know where most native English speakers from that channel is from

Like accent, region etc

But maybe rhat doesn’t matter 😊

Thanks 🙏

[finite sapphire]

depends what you want to listen to, for instance i like true crime, and id recommend "Rotten Mango", american accent but ive no idea what region specifically, if you are interested in asian countries then maybe these: "The Korean File" is mix of different speakers so different accents, "Abroad in Japan" is british accent, "Tokyo Fresh" is british accent, "The Bangkok podcast" is rather american accent, if you like creepy stories then "Freaky Folklore", "Philosophize this" if you like philosophy, etc

i had more but

but i didnt really save them, i just kinda listen to them when i feel like it

if you like psychology then "Healthy Gamer GG"

they are all made by natives for natives, so yeah, i listen to them on daily basis

[finite sapphire]

in general podcasts are easily available at Podbean, free app for android, Spotify which is kinda paid, they both have desktop and web versions

[finite sapphire]

id also encourage you to listen to audiobooks if you read books in english, they really reinforce new things that you may have possibly noted out from the text versions

[steep kayak]

I’m sorta busy

You got any links?

[finite sapphire]

not really

[steep kayak]

Cool I’ll check when I find time

Rotten mango you said right?

[finite sapphire]

yeah, i mean it's right above in my message but, yeah thats what i meant

[steep kayak]

Seems great, checked it up!

[steep kayak]

Thanks 🙏

Sounds better now too 😊

[trim tinsel]

Does anyone know of a reliable website where I can take an English proficiency test?

[sacred badger]

Cambridge

[steep kayak]

Just want to give you my personal thanks. Love rotten mango, great stuff

[jaunty niche]

thats so emo

[river lance]

@jaunty niche ok f#ck off

[jaunty niche]

lmao

[sacred badger]

Experience ?

[finite sapphire]

right, i love it too

the main speaker, stephanie soo, is actually pretty famous outside the podcast too

but i honestly dont watch her content other than this podcast, she does some very weird-ass stuff like mukbang and random things

[river lance]

I'm out! Bye!

[river lance]

@sacred badger

[warm hollow]

https://voca.ro/18zmY7o1GNAN

[river lance]

it's actually very good, just keep it up yk. voice chats really do help with practicing your accent (:

[warm hollow]

oh, thanks

[forest trellis]

Hey guys, I am devon (Alias). I have been working on my english for the past 3 years, The language itself as well as pronunciation. I prefer American english. (Also can you guess my country?) https://voca.ro/1ltaypxtdwZW

[warm hollow]

i'll keep that in mind

[finite sapphire]

it's very good but i did not quite catch everything

but idk, this may be my issue

[forest trellis]

I am not sure

I do speak fast

[finite sapphire]

first five seconds especially

[forest trellis]

so i tend to eat some syllables

[warm hollow]

could u do mine?

[finite sapphire]

thats exactly how i felt, like either i did not hear some sounds, or they were omitted where they should not be

[forest trellis]

yeah it's not my best recording as well i was in a hurry while recording

anyways

thanks for the review

[finite sapphire]

0:21-0:24, do you know what you said during that timing?

[forest trellis]

yeah

[finite sapphire]

i can't figure it out somehow...

[forest trellis]

in the real world, you won’t be needing only one programming language or a “specialized area” in a programming language. A website alone requires you to learn 5 languages at a minimum.

this is what i said

i think that part was pretty clear

if you ask me

[finite sapphire]

ahhh okay makes sense

the only things i did not catch in these sentences were "a website alone requires you"

[forest trellis]

didn't i enunciate properly?

fine

[forest trellis]

hmm

[finite sapphire]

i have no idea, like maybe the "a website alone" was too quick or too quick for me...

[forest trellis]

anyways thanks for the review. Appreciate your efforts

[forest trellis]

i mean yeah i do speak pretty fast especially at the end

[finite sapphire]

it's actually 3 languages tho, html, css, js, but when we're talking about frameworks like scss, react.js, or we add back-end to this then sure it can get even more than 5

but this doesnt matter

[forest trellis]

damn my guy

i mean i am only a beginner but i reckon that python and it's frameworks and html would suffice? for a basic website.

[finite sapphire]

python is unneeded

html and css are crucial, js can not be skipped

but id need to explain at #💻｜programming

anyway great accent, i love it

[forest trellis]

appreciate that

how long have you been learning english for?

[finite sapphire]

by myself and actually learning, not idling? then 4 years, a bit more, if you count public education tho, then that's gonna be more than 10 years

but i learned nothing at school

[forest trellis]

that is amazing, yes to add to your point school is dog water when it comes to teaching a language.

they think reading a book will help you gain proficiency

[finite sapphire]

you sound clear to me, i think am not qualified enough to judge variants of accent like does something sound american/british/etc, i can only say it reminds me of american

[warm hollow]

ahh

[finite sapphire]

are you japanese, perhaps?

[warm hollow]

nope

[finite sapphire]

hm okay, the tone of the voice, like the melody, kinda reminded me of it

[warm hollow]

oh

no one has ever said that

well, thanks anyways

[forest trellis]

honestly biri your accent does sound american to me

it is pretty clear

i cannot exactly pinpoint where the problem is

[warm hollow]

oh

[forest trellis]

but still i feel it's a little teeny tiny bit off

but great accent nonetheless

[warm hollow]

i guess the problem's just my tendency to stutter then

usually, i speak too fast that i stumble upon my words, i had speak more slowly than how i normally would in the voice clip

[forest trellis]

yeah you think you sound perfect until you hit the record button, Typical

[warm hollow]

thanks you two, for all your efforts and time, i really appreciate it

[forest trellis]

happened to me tons of time before

[finite sapphire]

it still is happening to me

sometimes

[forest trellis]

Yo we gotta get a solution for this

[warm hollow]

oh, count me in on that, i'd like to get that dealt with as well

[forest trellis]

yo you guys wanna hit a vc?

[forest trellis]

yeah i think it's the nervousness to some extent.

[finite sapphire]

not really

[forest trellis]

sure

[warm hollow]

maybe another time

[forest trellis]

sure

[sacred badger]

@forest trellis i like devon

https://tenor.com/view/devon-larrat-no-limits-armwrestling-gif-13391143052004195885

[forest trellis]

isn't that amazing

[sacred badger]

He is indeed

[sullen mantle]

Based

[jaunty remnant]

I'm Marsian 🌚

[twin berry]

I hear "Freakin' zero come at me."
But it makes no sense. Maybe 'zero' is another word I don't know. What is it?

[sacred badger]

Zero can be a title

He's telling "zero" to come at him (fight him)

[hoary monolith]

are u challenging zero? u sure xD

[shut pebble]

Hey guys

[sacred badger]

Hello

[shut pebble]

What do you do in this group?

[keen pilot]

This channel is for posting voice clips for people to critique others accents

[grizzled kelp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OrGfwR4zCE

please tell how is the english here

i made this video recently

looking for scope of improvement

[granite turret]

Do you want feedback on your accent, or the actual words? Because there are a lot of words.

[dapper silo]

that is true

[finite sapphire]

depends what kind of book, he probably meant a grammar book, and not a real one written in native english for native english reader

when it comes to grammar books, textbooks, etc, they didnt work for me, i learned my grammar from internet guides

but when it comes to books, like targeted towards native english reader, then they helped me immensely, and they still keep on helping me

[forest trellis]

yup that's what i meant a traditional grammar book. Not talking about the general ones they are pretty great for vocabulary building i would advocate for that.

[grizzled kelp]

well overall

[finite sapphire]

i immediately recognized you must be south/southeast asian, you have a rather understandable accent, but your "R" sounds are very harsh (and i dont blame you, am Polish, we have the same tendency as you do, i know how hard it is to make an english r all of the time), and one of very noticable things is that around the timing of 1:18 your version of "avertisements" is incorrect

[grizzled kelp]

i am indian maybe because of the indian accent

yeah i mispronounced it

will definately improve

thank you for your feedbacks!!

[finite sapphire]

for me what fixed my accent was listening to english on daily basis, like i picked some podcasts/yt channels about things i was interested in, and i kept listening to them instead of my native language, it somehow taught me the accent but it took years for me to get

[grizzled kelp]

true

listening to english conversations really helps

will inculcate more of it in my daily life

[finite sapphire]

you're good, you speak very, very quickly, ive no idea if you learned this by heart, read, came up with while speaking, probably all of these at once i guess, but it was very fast, i had to concentrate to make sure i keep up with the flow, i think its a plus because you can process things so quickly

[grizzled kelp]

thank you !! actually i had to do multiple takes for some parts

since i have just started my youtube journey

i am looking forward to improve myself and make better content

[finite sapphire]

good luck with it, i took a look at other of your videos and you seem to be touching pretty harsh social issues, i think its brave to record oneself touching such topics, even if the audience is not too big

you have my sub! haha

[river lance]

Isn't accent something we speak? why it's typing chat instead of voice ?

[shut pebble]

So what should I say in a voice bote

Note

[shut pebble]

اكسنت يعني اللهجه

[keen pilot]

It doesn’t matter. You can read a passage or say something random. You can also listen to what others posted as a reference

[naive torrent]

Yes it's right

[river lance]

So we type or speak with accent ?

and it it allowed here to speak a language but english ?

[naive torrent]

Accent only while speaking

[shut pebble]

Speak, and yes I guess it's allowed

[river lance]

how to speak in text chats ?

[shut pebble]

By sending a voice note

[naive torrent]

Yes

[naive torrent]

Where are you From?

[languid comet]

https://voca.ro/15J2eRfYLmM1

[finite sapphire]

00:01 - you sound like "it's would have been hard", this doesnt make sense cuz "it would have been hard" is the correct form of future perfect (with would instead of will)

except for this then i have a tiny feeling as if you were not pronouncing some words clearly enough

like i did not catch 100%, there has been a couple of words that were just not comprehensible

while at the same time i also feel as if your accent was so great, it just doesnt sound very clear

[long sedge]

Hello

[main ermine]

hi!!

[granite turret]

Sorry to say, I have a very hard time understanding you. It's clear that you have a very good command of the English language, but there's something about your accent that's hard for me to understand). I'm often not sure what words you're saying, so I can't give specific pronunciation advice, except to maybe speak more slowly.

[main ermine]

thankyou sir !!! I will work and after a week i will send a note again

[sacred badger]

@dim fable @finite sapphire

[dim fable]

Lol you wrote it correctly even though you forgot it

And didn't know you were looking for it

[sacred badger]

Synonymous ?

[dim fable]

Yeah that's what you're looking for right

[sacred badger]

Synonyms

Ahhhh

Synonyms synonymous

Right

[dim fable]

Synonym is a noun
Synonymous is an adj

But yeah you wrote them both right

[finite sapphire]

i got a brain lag for half a second cuz i understood no word, took me 1.3s brain loading to comprehend this lol

i guess my bad cuz i havent slept almost at all

[sacred badger]

You're not on my level yet

Jk

[finite sapphire]

thats true

i can not descend so low anymore

[steep kayak]

Eh not my best take but not too bad

[sacred badger]

[steep kayak]

Anyways if anyone knows a good podcast from LA let me know

[sacred badger]

You want a podcast that's based in LA ?

[steep kayak]

Yeah

[sacred badger]

Are you basically asking if we know people talking with their la accent ?

[steep kayak]

I think that’s the accent I eventually want to go for

[sacred badger]

Any reason why ?

[finite sapphire]

am joking ofc

[steep kayak]

I like it and I think it might be better to pin point a dialect than to be like I just want to sound American

[sacred badger]

I mean there's such thing as a standard accent

RHOTIC

Is what they call it

[finite sapphire]

rotten mango that ive recommended you is great, keep on listening to it

[steep kayak]

Listen to it daily

[finite sapphire]

you may also try joe rogan show if you wanna american accent, but ive no idea where he's from, and i dont know any podcasters who are from LA specifically

but thats general things, not true crime

[finite sapphire]

your accent is great

it's just native tbh

like i guess if you had to speak more, then you would possibly stutter, or lose it for moment, but in this recording yeah

[steep kayak]

Thanks! Well recommend sounded kinda Swedish but I am happy with what I’ve got honestly. According to me I got a great starting point and I think with practice I will reach consistent native like level

[sacred badger]

You sound amazing yes

[sacred badger]

You Swedishness slips here and there

But that's to be expected

[steep kayak]

Thanks for the kind words!

Don’t want to brag but I’m really happy with what I’ve got as a starting point

[finite sapphire]

am glad that you're happy too

[steep kayak]

Oh I noticed that I repeated myself of being happy with my starting point. Sorry about that, I am packing for a trip so my mind is all over the place

[sacred badger]

@steep kayak your accent is very clear

I don't see the value of learning a different accent

If you sound like that

Just my personal opinion

I was able to understand everything you said and meant

If anything, just learn more vocabulary

More worth it

[gloomy summit]

I can't see anyone talking

[little wren]

am here if any one need talking

[tiny mountain]

Hello there

[keen pilot]

Hello everyone, with the new voice message feature enabled on the server I would like to remind the users of this channel that If you are above level 25 within the server you are eligible to request the role using #🛂｜report-help to check your level please go to #🔗｜bot-commands and type /level . If you are not level 25 I still recommend using vocaroo as stated in my other pinned message to send an audio file to the server for critique. If you need further help feel free to use #🛂｜report-help and staff would be more than happy to help you.

[river lance]

How do you record a voice message like @steep kayak did?

[steep kayak]

You press the mic symbol

[keen pilot]

You need the voice message role. It requires users to be level 25 or higher

[river lance]

How can i see my level?

[keen pilot]

/ level no space

[river lance]

Thank you.

/level

[keen pilot]

You should see a line from arcane bot when you do it

[river lance]

/ level

Im not seeing it

[keen pilot]

You still have some ways to go before 25

[river lance]

How i level up?

[keen pilot]

Being active in the server

[river lance]

Ah ok, im new to Discord and i thought to check my accent before a job interview. Thank you.

[keen pilot]

You can always check the pinned messages here. I advise people to use vocaroo it’s a free online website that allows you to record audio and send as a link

[steady kernel]

Seems a little silly, having to be a specific level before you can send audios, imo

[keen pilot]

Why do you think it’s silly?

[steady kernel]

Since you already mentioned a way around it, using the vocaroo website. So why not just let people send audios anyways

[keen pilot]

Currently our stance is to only give the role to members who have been active for a while. If we give access to everyone for voice messages it opens the door for more ways for trolling. Simply put it’s a deterrent for trolls.

Same way that you need level 5 on the server before you can post photos.

[steady kernel]

I see. I guess that makes sense. Trolls be trolling

[sacred badger]

Haters be hatin'

[river lance]

Potatoes be potatin'

[sacred badger]

Who are they potatin' ?

[river lance]

Your salad

[sacred badger]

That's kinda saucy

[river lance]

Where im from we have potato salad fish and lemon/garlic souce

[sacred badger]

Since we are in a judging channel, Imma judge that

[finite sapphire]

/level

weird bot

[sacred badger]

Only works there #🔗｜bot-commands

Because he's a mod, he was able to preform it here

But it isn't unabled here for good and obvious reasons

Lol

[thin shell]

Hi, can I send a voice note here to get feedback on my accent?

[keen pilot]

Yes you can use vocaroo to post a voice message

[sacred badger]

Judging your accent contest when ?

[keen pilot]

I’m not sure how we would critique that

[sacred badger]

Why not

Can be critiquable

Your lost, if you ask me, you should participate, tehe.

[keen pilot]

How fair would it be if natives participated lol

[sacred badger]

I mean, it's just an accent judging, you could have a unique accent that we may judge u for it lol

[thin shell]

thank you so much :)

[keen pilot]

I will bring it up and see if there is more events that we can do

[sacred badger]

I wasn't being 100% serious lol, just messin' with u

^-^

[sacred badger]

Maybe I'd have my accent judged one day.

[keen pilot]

Post it

[sacred badger]

Maaaybe

One day

Actually nvm

It was on #📚｜english-questions

Lmao

You could check it out

[finite sapphire]

you posted it like few times

[odd edge]

Hello, welcome!

Your voice is lovely

So welcome

This is the #🗒｜pronunciation. Here, you can post a voice recording of yourself speaking and ask about tips for pronunciation. People will happily help you to improve your speech.

Here are a few texts you can read if you can't think of anything:

☀️ The North Wind and the Sun (short)
https://www.nie.edu.sg/docs/default-source/nie-files/office-of-strategic-planning-academic-quality/the-nws-passage.pdf?sfvrsn=10

🗼 The Tower of Babel (NIV)
https://www.bible.com/bible/111/GEN.11.1-9.NIV

🌈 The Rainbow Passage
https://www.dialectsarchive.com/the-rainbow-passage

💉 Comma Gets a Cure
https://www.dialectsarchive.com/comma-gets-a-cure

🔥 The Chaos (very long and tedious, and varies by dialect)
http://ncf.idallen.com/english.html

If you'd like to practice your oral skills, feel free to talk and communicate with other people in the voice chats!

[trim sandal]

Thank you so much! What complete answers you typed😊

[trim sandal]

Aah alrighty

[cyan lotus]

I think most of the part is perfect, with only a small flaw you can eliminate to make it even better: when pronouncing a word where an unvoiced consonant follows an "s", e.g. strict, stress, story, spend, etc. In that case, the unvoiced "t", "tr", "p" etc. should sound like their corresponding voiced counterpart, in the words above "sdrict", "sdress", "sdory", and "sbend". You can listen to more materials to get a better feeling of it!

@trim sandal

[trim sandal]

@cyan lotus Ah oke. Thank you so much for giving feedback. I really appreciate 😄

[steep kayak]

Something that you could work on is just the rules of English really. American English if that’s your goal, I don’t know too much of British English. But one thing that makes English sorta hard is that is really not spoken as it’s written at all almost. I don’t think any language is really spoken like it’s written but I do believe English is a lot like that. It goes beyond silent T etc, even a small sentence like I got to becomes I gotta and English is a lot like that.

[trim sandal]

@steep kayak Tbh my goal is Brit Accent (RP), but at least, I want my local accent not to be heard when I speak English. Many things that I should work on in my English 💪

Btw, do you know Indonesian? It's spoken just like how it's written. For instance: "Salah satu keinginanku adalah meningkatkan kemampuan bahasa inggrisku dengan menetap di negara UK selama 4 tahun". It is read like this:

[finite sapphire]

the middle of your paragraph doesnt make sense to me, you said "I don’t think any language is really spoken like it’s written but I do believe English is a lot like that.", and one sentence before you said the exact opposite

basically you just said "i believe english is spoken just as it is written"

[steep kayak]

Well I wrote this when I was half asleep kind of

But yeah the sentence doesn’t make sense

I meant the opposite

[trim sandal]

I need to open my translator to understand the whole sentence. My comprehension, grammar, pronunciation and speaking all need improvement 😅

I tried to assess mine, and here's the result, hmm

[steep kayak]

Well I wrote a sentence be wrong too so it’s not all on you.

But if you’re aiming for British English there’s probably rules for that too. I don’t know anything about British English except how it sounds on TV and well most of the words since it’s English.

[trim sandal]

I don't know about its rules. But the 1st I wanna improve the sound with correct pronunciation, and then the right grammar, and so on

How about you? Does English your native lang?

[river lance]

Do you know where i can check my English level? Speaking, listening, reading and writing skills also

[steep kayak]

English is not my native language.

[steep kayak]

But I bet British English has rules too that helps with pronunciation

I focus on American English and that is actually by choice.

Take my advice with a grain of salt by the way. What works for you works for you. It’s supposed to be fun too, maybe not all the time but at least most of the time.

[hearty crown]

Hello

[trim sandal]

Ah yes. Thanks! 😀

[trim sandal]

Hi

[river lance]

what is this channel for

[trim sandal]

Here, you can post a voice recording of yourself speaking and ask about tips for pronunciation. People will happily help you to improve your speech.

If you'd like to practice your oral skills, feel free to talk and communicate with other people in the voice chats!

[river lance]

ok thanks

[trim sandal]

I copy paste the message from @odd edge

[trim sandal]

No worries

[trim sandal]

Hi friends, I just wanna share. I love learning English in any kind of way. And this is one of them. It was fun and a bit tricky as well

[dry hemlock]

Where are you practicing this

[trim sandal]

Smule App

Search for VA (Voice Acting)

[topaz trout]

What do you recommend someone to read so you can judge their accent

[trim sandal]

Please check this one

[young temple]

My native langueage is not English

[river lance]

Getting there~!

[young temple]

Thank you! ^^

[trim sandal]

Are you Japanese?

[feral swift]

Hi https://voca.ro/15JmXFbuHPeJ

[young temple]

No, I'm Turkish

[trim sandal]

Aah oke 😊

[half furnace]

@young temple what does popo sac means?

[vale crystal]

How can I will judge my accent

[tall pike]

I think when you have enough level you can send voice messages here

[trim sandal]

Here, you can post a voice recording of yourself speaking and ask about tips for pronunciation. People will happily help you to improve your speech.

If you'd like to practice your oral skills, feel free to talk and communicate with other people in the voice chats!

[vale crystal]

Can I mention about anything or just you give some specific topic

[trim sandal]

There are some scripts that you can use. Please tap the message I'm replying

[tender sleet]

you pronounce it really well imo, you sound like you grew up speaking english but with parents who had an accent

[sullen mantle]

Thanks for feedback, my native language is actually romanian.

[trim sandal]

Accent 90% English, 10% local
Pronunciation ✔️
Intonation 90%, 10% some words were said too fast so should be re-play the voice

[trim sandal]

Accent 90% English, 10% local
Pronunciation ✔️
Intonation ✔️

@sullen mantle You gave me an idea of how to give feedback by making categorization. Thank you

[trim sandal]

@sullen mantle And could you give me a feedback as well? ☺️

[sullen mantle]

I am no expert in accents, to me it sounds almost like native English,
Pronunciation is great
Intonation is also great

[trim sandal]

Thank youu

[pliant aurora]

https://voca.ro/1bJJkiUEx2e0

where do you think i'm from?

[river lance]

It seemed American to me... The pronounciations were great

[trim sandal]

You mean the girl sounds American?

[stray depot]

Well yeah, that’s because I’m a native English speaker from Australia but maybe I’ve just made too many American friends to the point my accent got influenced too

Thank you

[trim sandal]

Sometimes English like a tongue twister for me 😄

[trim sandal]

@stray depot I'm reading here, because I have a scripts in front of me hehe. Sometimes, reading is easier than speaking

[stray depot]

I’ll be honest, same HAHA

[river lance]

yeah kinda I would say

[stray depot]

Agreed. I’m learning Japanese right now and reading is so much easier

[stray depot]

I see

[trim sandal]

Ah, oke.
The man is native American.
Thank you for listening 😀

[trim sandal]

Wow, awesome!

[river lance]

ohk

[full coral]

Hi, how are you

[young temple]

thank you!

I'm trying to do my best

^^

[sacred badger]

Europe

[stray depot]

Also @trim sandal can I add you as a friend?

[finite sapphire]

the most british "hard" ive heard today

[stray depot]

LMAO???

Bro at this point, might as well learn 3 accents and mush them together

[finite sapphire]

you sound british, american, and australian to me

i usually mess all of these too but am not a native lol

[wanton sphinx]

This is actually lowkey accurate 😭

[finite sapphire]

i know

...ok i didnt know, am just pretending to be bold lol

[stray depot]

Curse my friends who are American or British/j

[finite sapphire]

"curse"?

ah

okay

i thought you meant "cuz of"

[stray depot]

Nah LOL

Tbf I wanted to develop my Aussie accent but I give up

Considering I just, sound Aussie and not Aussie at the same time

[finite sapphire]

i dont speak kangaroo

unfortunately

[stray depot]

I should ask my Aussie friend for advice actually

[finite sapphire]

rooglish is my non-existent side, i speak eaglish and teaglish a bit

idk if these puns are discernible tho...

[stray depot]

I don’t know which is what, sorry

But another language I speak is Cantonese

[finite sapphire]

natively?

[stray depot]

No

[finite sapphire]

i wanted to conceal "roo", "eagle", and "tea" in english but i failed miserably then lol

[stray depot]

Sorry I didn’t get it in the first place HAHA 😂 😭

I’m sure you have great puns though

[finite sapphire]

why not mandarin

do you like to have more tones to take care of lol

[stray depot]

I was born in Australia but with Chinese roots. My grandparents and mum mainly spoke Cantonese so they taught me that along with English first

[finite sapphire]

ooh nice then, chinese is like in my top3 most beautiful languages, id estimate, i guess

but i cant tell cantonese and mandarin apart

[stray depot]

Mandarin sounds beautiful, Cantonese sounds like you’re having a bird talk

Or it sounds like you’re having an argument

[finite sapphire]

sometimes i can, if i am very very lucky, recognize Hunan mandarin accent and tell it apart from other ones of mandarin, but this is when am veeeery lucky

[stray depot]

That’s definitely a cool skill to have!

[finite sapphire]

i used to not be able to even discern between korean, japanese, and mandarin, but eventually i started learning jp, and got to a point where id have passed ~N3 on JLPT scale if i hadnt given up the learning process, now i watched a bit of korean horrors and historical movies, and heard a bit of kpop, so now i can lol

[stray depot]

Omg that’s so cool! I’m also learning Japanese at the moment but my level is at N5 lol so I’m not as good as you

[finite sapphire]

no, am not n3 now

i used to be n3

like more than a year ago, i didnt use this language for sooo long

[stray depot]

Oh I didn’t read the second part properly lmao

Skimming issues

[stray depot]

I see I see

[finite sapphire]

in my peak i was able to handwrite approximately 1000 kanji by heart, but... i forgot like, idk, i would say 90% of this lmao

i still can write some of them by heart but... its not even as close as it had been

[finite sapphire]

its just... a matter of time, i had to give up cuz i gotta pursue a career, and life, and jp was a burden on my shoulders cuz advancing from N3 even higher is just very tiring and i can not afford spending my tme on things that are not absolute priorities

[stray depot]

Honestly that’s understandable, sometimes you need to prioritise things more than others

[trim sandal]

@stray depot
Ah really? 😊 Thank you so much! Off course we can be friends. I was about to add you but I can't. I didn't know why

[smoky stone]

Need someone whom I can talk and can improve my spoken English.I'm so bad at spoken.And my accent is also funny.

It would be great if her/his first language is English.

[sacred badger]

@stray depot are u an accent coach now ?

[river lance]

Evol we can speak

Me too learning english

[lilac gyro]

hi

[stray depot]

I shut down my friend requests access due to reasons

[stray depot]

no, im a very bad accent coach HAHA

[sacred badger]

https://youtube.com/shorts/4c8FXXoOtRs?feature=share4

Can u teach me 2 sound like that

I'll pay up

[stray depot]

Bro I’m really bad at accents 😭😭😭

[sacred badger]

Even at your own ?

[stray depot]

i’m bad on how to teach other people with improving their accents, but I can try

which character are you doing?

[sacred badger]

The chick

Lol

She's Australian, ur Australian, teach me Australian.

[stray depot]

Ah well technically, from my understanding of the Aussie accent:

1. Stress the “A” in words

2. Add a bit of an “O” sound to the words that have “I” for example, “Like” becomes “Loike” but make sure to make this change subtle and not too strong

3. Words ending with “er” becomes an “a” for example, “butta” and “hotta”

4. When we ask questions, our intonation goes slightly higher in tone. Usually when you speak in an Australian accent, you want to sound a little “salty” and have that “eh” sound in your tone and voice(dunnno how to describe this properly)

5. Learn some Aussie slang, and swear a lot

6. Drop the “g” in “ing.” For example, “Nothing” becomes “Nothin’” but make sure to make the “in” subtle rather than strong

[sacred badger]

Oooohhhh

Interesting

I didn't know about the g being dropped

Like them dropping it

I thought it was more of a slang than an accent

[stray depot]

nah bro its what we do lmao, but for me, my accent is not strong. You should also ask @river lance for advice. His Aussie accent is strong

[trim sandal]

I see

[trim sandal]

Wow, not an easy thing but @sacred badger worth trying

[stray depot]

@sacred badger send a voice msg sometime

[stray depot]

yeah dont worry abt it

[sacred badger]

To have my accent judged ?

[trim sandal]

This is challenging. You talk with a mid-pace for me hehe
(gonna replay it now)

[finite sapphire]

you wanna become a kangaroo but you're just too shy to admit to it

i get you

[trim sandal]

"I mean I'd like to learn the accent but I feel like it has all like I need to put a lot ____ actually. Try to learn ____ Cause it, cause the way they talk is just way different than what I'm used to, so it's kinda take a lot of time and effort to actually perfect how like to perfect the basically (🤔) you know so, I want to learn but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna like spend a lot of time energy in to trying it (🤔) to actually perfect it you know. I'll just uhm yeah"

Listening skill lesson 😆

[trim sandal]

Where are you from? Does English your 2nd lang?

[sacred badger]

It's my 3rd

[trim sandal]

Wow

So what's the 1st and 2nd?

[sacred badger]

Arabic and Persian

[trim sandal]

Arabic?! I didn't hear your local accent! 👏

I can read Arabic with a mark

[sacred badger]

It got lost in translation

(An inside joke)

[stray depot]

I’ll listen to it in a bit

I gotta head to the hall to practice piano in my free period lol

[trim sandal]

I did got lost here? I always got lost when I hear somebody's talking

[trim sandal]

Cool! Ahahaha. Enjoy your time

[sacred badger]

Pinao is hard

[stray depot]

It is

I crammed my diploma exam in 6 months when it takes over a year to complete

My exam is next month but I’m nearly done

[sacred badger]

Good luck senorita-san

[stray depot]

Yeah, just listen to a lot of Aussies talking and it’ll help change your accent a little bit

[sacred badger]

Finna try lol

[river lance]

Can confirm. My accent is so cute

[river lance]

Using slang helps amplify the accent. Also changing er to a

So ladder becomes ladda in spoken communication

[sacred badger]

Yeah

[river lance]

Idk how to explain getting the accent but its definitely hard

[sacred badger]

Shall try to expose myself to more aussie

That sounded wrong, but you get the idea

[river lance]

Could you send a voice message of you saying some aussie words? Stuff like Brekkie, chook, mozzie, avo/arvo

[sacred badger]

Nah, it'll come out really broken lol

It'll sound like a shitty parody

[river lance]

That's fair but more practice = more aussie accent

[sacred badger]

Not wrong lol

[river lance]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j58V2vC9EPc
Here's basically our national anthem

[sacred badger]

HAHAHAHA

I know this song

A classic

[sacred badger]

Lol

That's about all you getting

[river lance]

Yeah it sounds super forced but at least you are trying lol

[sacred badger]

Well no shot lol

Yeah

I'm shitty at making impressions

[river lance]

You'll get there one day

[sacred badger]

Aye lol

[river lance]

Just gotta watch an hour of australian youtubers or videos

[sacred badger]

Nah

[sacred badger]

Gotta find the 10h version

Of this song

[river lance]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw_tGRblTXk||

This is a good show

[sacred badger]

Isn't sasquatch a mythical creature ?

[river lance]

Its inappropriate

So viewer warning

Ima put a spoiler so I don't get in trouble just in case

Mostly for a lot of swearing

[sacred badger]

Viewer discretion is advised

[sacred badger]

That's like the first thing people learn in most languages anyway

Lmao

But yeah should be 18+ cuz regulations and all that

We gotta follow rules cuz higher ups said so

[sacred badger]

They are really stretching out the accent lol

[river lance]

Lmao yeah
That's just one thing you gotta worry about with aussie cartoons on youtube, a lot of it is swearing and inappropriate

[sacred badger]

Trying to get as heavy as possible

[river lance]

Some people sound like that naturally

[sacred badger]

Not denying that

But they are reaaaaally stretching it

[river lance]

Yeah lmfao

[sacred badger]

Are the characters being voiced by 2 guys ?

They all sound identical

[river lance]

I'm not really sure tbh, they do sound very similar if it is two people

[sacred badger]

I love he apologized for dropping the f bomb

Lol

[lilac gyro]

How do I get Judged

Wtf

why

can't I send this man

[stray depot]

You send a voice message of your own voice and people will give you feedback on your accent

You probably can’t send anything because of your level. That’s usually the main reason for not being able to send media

[lilac gyro]

Yeah I've realised that, but I can't send a file for some odd reason. Whenever I send it it just dissapears after "loading"

i can send this bird

but I can't send a vm wtf

[stray depot]

Yeah files are not permitted for some reason, into the server. I’ve tried doing it before-oh look it works

[lilac gyro]

ok the extension was wrong

[stray depot]

Haha I see

[stray depot]

As long as it’s not NSFW it’s fine

[sacred badger]

Isn't cussing nsfw ?

[stray depot]

It depends on the word really

[lilac gyro]

can u rate

thx

:cccccccccccccccccccccccc

[river lance]

Yeah nah, it ain't that bad

[river lance]

Hello

[trim sandal]

Hii

[fallen quail]

hii all

[arctic inlet]

https://voca.ro/1n4WxuDLGv9Z

I’m struggling with intonation

[sacred badger]

@river lance hey mate ^-^

Difference between abrogate reprobate and derogate

[finite sapphire]

you're great

maybe there were two, or three words which i had pretty tough time understanding, but i feel as if you were stressed, and you'd be clearly able to pronounce this more clearly without sweating

or maybe i just kind of feel it this way, because you kinda lacked the fluent flow of the speech, i know you were reading, but there was a tiny stutter that made me feel as if it was caused by a small amount of uneasiness

[finite sapphire]

you can get better than that, even if it's fine as it is, like the pronunciation, if i ignore the tiny stutter/delay and a few ambiguous words, was near perfect/or just perfect in a lot of words

i know how hard it must have been to even go to this point if your native is, as i assume, cantonese, there's just close to nothing in common between canto and english, so keep going

[wind plinth]

Your pronunciation I think is mostly fine. I could understand about 95% of what you said.

However, like you said, you do struggle a bit with intonation and stressing certain words. But give it some practice, and also think about what you're saying, don't just read it aloud, make sense of the text in your own head too. This will help you with where to apply intonation.

Also work on speaking a bit more clear. Again, the pronunciation is good, it just needs to be clearer.

This is my honest feedback, no disrespect whatsoever, just giving you some feedback! 🙂

[sacred badger]

Judge me next

Judge krypt

[sly elbow]

you cant hear me?

[arctic inlet]

Thank you for your feedback :)

[wind plinth]

Okay

[wind plinth]

this?

[sacred badger]

.

Yes

[wind plinth]

It's short. Do you have a better one? One that's longer?

[sacred badger]

That what she said

Ok, I'll find one

[sacred badger]

I guess this one

Lol

[wind plinth]

There's nothing really to critique, you sound just like a native speaker

Are you, haha?

[sacred badger]

Yes I'm a native england speaker

[wind plinth]

Oh, then why am I judging your accent, you're already native lol

[sacred badger]

I'm not even close to sounding like a native

Trust me

You can easily expose me if we were to actually talk

[wind plinth]

So you're not a native English speaker? What's going on here?

[sacred badger]

I'll take that as a motive tho

[sacred badger]

I'm not, i was only making a joke, i don't even have the native role on

[wind plinth]

I see. But you are a fluent speaker?

[sacred badger]

Yes

According to some tests that's I've taken in college

Would be fair to claim that

But im not necessarily extremely expressive and can describe things using "big words"

[wind plinth]

Well, I'll tell you, you sound just like a native. In fact, you had me fooled at first. I think you've pretty much nailed the American accent and it sounds like natural, everyday speech.

Yeah, it's indiscernible from a real native's accent

Might I ask, where are you from?

[sacred badger]

Saudi arabia

[wind plinth]

Wow, is that so? That's impressive!

[sacred badger]

Thanks

[sacred badger]

Why so ?

[wind plinth]

Well, your native language is Arabic, yeah? Arabic is a very different language and so is the accent. It's impressive you've managed to master the American accent as a Middle Easterner

[sacred badger]

Oh yeah i know what you're talking about

Difficulty can vary depending on your native language

Currently learning Japanese and it's just overly complicated

As someone who has learned 3 languages

[wind plinth]

Usually it's understandable if the person were a Brit, for example, and they mastered the American accent because the British accent and American one are pretty akin. But the difference between the language and accent of American English and basically any Middle Eastern language or accent is very significant

[sacred badger]

Well, 3 if were to include my native language

[sacred badger]

I think english is really hard for Japanese people

More so than Chinese

(Just a theory)

Everything about their language is nearly reversed or nonexistent in English

[wind plinth]

Well, I don't know about that. Japanese and Chinese are pretty linguistically akin

[sacred badger]

JPN to ENG is more impressive imo

Than AR to ENG

[sacred badger]

Well ur not wrong

The difference between Japanese and mandarin is merely noticeable

As in learning the language

[wind plinth]

I still applaud you. Even Arabs who have become extremely fluent in English still tend to have an accent. I could be wrong on that, however. But yeah, most English leaners usually still have the accent of their mother tongue.

[sacred badger]

Japanese people use kanji which is basically Chinese/mandrin whichever is the correct language.

[wind plinth]

Mandarin is a dialect of Chinese, the most commonly spoken one

[sacred badger]

Lmao

[wind plinth]

Noo 😂

[sacred badger]

Forgive my arrogance for not knowing that

[wind plinth]

That's not arrogance. Perhaps you've mixed up the two words arrogance and ignorance. Nonetheless, no worries.

[sacred badger]

Is that it ?

Lol

[wind plinth]

Stop trying to cancel me!!

[sacred badger]

Lmao

[sacred badger]

Ignorance, yes

Lack of knowledge lol

I'm not an arrogant no

They sounded close enough so i mixed them up, my badge

I tend to mix a lot of words unintentionally

It became a weird habit

[finite sapphire]

japanese language utilizes SOV structure commonly, there are exceptions, but mostly its subject+object+verb, which does not make sense in english

so even a basic sentence already involves completely reordering the thoughts

[finite sapphire]

also english likes to use conjuctions before the nouns, like "She did that for me" or "I went home from school" which again does not make sense in jp, because japanese people put conjunctions (actually, they are particles in jp, but they convey the meaning like english conjunctions do) after the nouns, so like "school from" is the correct thought process

plural also works not even in a close way to the english plural, sounds like "l" and "r" are hard to discern, because japanese phonetics do not consider these as separate sounds, like there's just sooooo many things to mess up lol

[finite sapphire]

id disagree, its very visible, like mandarin has a pretty rational grammar, and really simplistic compared to whats happening in forms like passive-causative in japanese (+saserareru added to verbs, if you know what i mean cuz u said you're learning jp, "shiekiukemikei" is the name of that grammar form), while chinese is all about the word order and not massive conjugations

most of these similarities are shared between rather korean and japanese than japanese and chinese, the only connection i can make between mandarin and japanese is similar roots of some words, and onyomi readings for kanji borrowed from chinese hanzi

[finite sapphire]

good luck with it btw, its absolutely gorgeous, i wish i had time for studying it again

[arctic inlet]

yeah i lack fluency in english because cantonese is monosyllabic but in english i have to read many syllables in one go which i'm not used to, as a result i always mispronounce words and i need to retry like 10 times to get it right

also sorry for replying you late

[finite sapphire]

understandable, there's always some tiny thing that delays the thought process, like for me reading chinese characters was a major delay, when i was reading in japanese, until i got used to them and immediately recognized some 2-character words, you're doing great regardless!

[warm hollow]

https://voca.ro/17Bv1vUAngUq

(im aiming for a New Yorker accent, pls give some advice if possible)

[finite sapphire]

may i ask you to clarify what was the rival of the sun again?

i am not sure if i heard it correctly

[warm hollow]

the north wind

[finite sapphire]

ohhhh

[warm hollow]

was it off

sorry

[finite sapphire]

i felt you meant that, but i also felt it could not be it

like i guessed, but it was not really it when it comes to the sound

[warm hollow]

i see

[finite sapphire]

you sound like "notwin"

the "r" is not silent in north, and "th" is not really "t" here

[finite sapphire]

but i liked it, you have a rather calm voice

its interesting because you pronounce "traveller" perfectly

and yet you didnt do "north" properly, even tho you're capable of it very well

[finite sapphire]

is the word in 00:04 "disputing"?

[warm hollow]

yes

[finite sapphire]

the "t" you made sounds like "r"...

[warm hollow]

ah

[finite sapphire]

but okay, fine, i dont know how you made these because you know very well how to read, like you did very well later

[warm hollow]

[finite sapphire]

you're great i think, i really cant understand these mistakes so idk, but it was american indeed, not sure if new york cuz i dont hear the specific accents soo well

like i cant understand the reason behind making them, i get the words, of course

[warm hollow]

ok, thanks for all ur time and effort

[brazen ermine]

I'm from the US but nowhere near New York so I can't really comment on how close you are to a believable NYC accent, but I can give a shot at how you said a couple things near the beginning of the recording

• north wind (0:02) I agree the first word sounds a little too close to "not", which in this case means your vowel needs to be higher (think "oy" but gliding to schwa instead of "y"). Your stress is also in an odd place. Stress in adjective+noun phrases like this usually goes on both parts equally or slightly more on the noun (like "a red car" or "a blue bird"), but you put it only on the adjective. That makes it sound like "north" has some weird sort of emphasis or you're making a compound noun (like "a street car" or "a bluebird") instead. this applies everywhere in the recording
• disputing (0:03) your "t" in the middle is great, [ɾ] is a normal way of saying /t/ or /d/ between vowels anywhere in North America. The rest of the word before that is different from how I would say it because my vowel in "dis" is more centralized and "sputing" less rounded, but I know that a backer rounder "u" is at least sometimes part of a northern US accent
• warm (0:08) same comment as "north", usually this vowel is further up than what you said
• first (0:11) Up until now you were consistent with saying syllabic /r/ in unstressed syllables like "traveler" or "were", but I'd make extra sure you're saying it here where it's stressed. Even people who drop /r/ in other words usually keep it in "first, fur, word, herd" etc where it's the entire main syllable—the opposite does exist but then you're getting into a more broad accent and all the funkiness that comes with that

if I had to rate how "new yorker" you sound to me I'd say not very much, but you'd still be understood by most americans

[brazen ermine]

a big difference between Cantonese and English, and what I think is helping make you sound frantic here, is that Cantonese keeps track of the time between each syllable (it's syllable-timed) whereas English keeps track of the time between stresses (it's stress-timed). That means if you say a sentence like "I went to the store over on the next block" with Cantonese timing and pitches imported over, it sounds really choppy to English ears because "to the" and "on the" are too long while "store over" and "next block" are too short. Thinking about things in terms of phrases and where the important information is (I went to the store over on the next block) might help you start to sound more fluid as you learn which words to be connecting.

Cantonese speakers also tend to have trouble with what pitch to assign each syllable because tones are so integral to Cantonese words, but in English it's easy to sound monotone from overthinking or misassuming what pitch to assign where (like "oh, I need a flat tone here" or "I need a falling tone because that's how I heard the dictionary say it"). Thinking in terms of stressed phrases might also help with this a little because unstressed syllables in English are a lot shorter/quieter and often have a lower pitch because their main purpose is to lead into the content words (the main nouns/verbs/important information)

more than anything, it's perfectly okay if you need to speak a little more slowly in general (with the right ratio of slow + fast) while you're getting the hang of all the parts of a sentence, because it really is a lot to learn coming from a Canto perspective. Even Spanish speakers have a little trouble with this because Spanish is a more syllable-timed language, although many of the intonation quirks like how to adjust your voice for certain information are still shared. Slow and confident is a lot easier to speak and listen to than fast and pressured

[arctic inlet]

Thank you for the advice! I'll try that in my next recording

[finite sapphire]

i didnt expect the disputing part to be this way tbh, i noticed it among natives, but i felt it sounds so odd that it can't be fine, also i usually heard "t" all the time so i guess i just didnt have an opportunity to talk/listen to north american natives

[arctic inlet]

thanks :) also good luck with learning japanese! I'm actually learning it too

[sacred badger]

Sugoi, Ganbatte

[arctic inlet]

thanks!

[warm hollow]

thanks, could you recommend an app or an activity for improving my accent?

[drifting relic]

try readin books very loud, like VERY LOUD

ig it kinda helps

[finite sapphire]

yeah not really... i used to be learning it, i wanted to pass N3, but i had given up due to lack of time, i have a lot of worries about my career and money-stuff rather than time for jp so

but thanks anyway

[warm hollow]

umm, sorry but i dont think reading without knowing how to properly read will do any good

[drifting relic]

aw sry i thought u know how to pronounce it and just havin troubles moving ur tongue he he

[warm hollow]

oh, i do have that issue as well, thanks for ur tip

[trim sandal]

Morning friends.

Could you give me feedback on my video? Do I pronounce the word correctly with its syllable stress? Or anything, please let me know.

I made this for the umpteenth time tbh. Thanks in advance

[nocturne pebble]

two quick things, its 312 million dollars and make sure the o in cost is pronounced like in cot

[trim sandal]

Aah, alrighty. Thank you :))

[wind plinth]

the o in cost is more like the aw sound

[trim sandal]

I pronounced it /ou/ 🫢

Reading with preparation still got me confused, hehe. But, keep learning 💪😁

My English issue are in grammar, speaking and translating, and many more hehe

[nocturne pebble]

yes like in cot, depends on the accent they are going for

[trim sandal]

cot /kɒt/

[nocturne pebble]

yes

[trim sandal]

How to differ the pronunciation of these words?

lost

1. /lɒst/

2. /lɔːst/

3. hell /hel/

laugh
4. /læf/

[nocturne pebble]

/hɛl/

[trim sandal]

How's the sound of that vowels?

[nocturne pebble]

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/File:en-us-hell.ogg

[trim sandal]

/hɛl/ and /læf/ sounds similar for me 🤔

[craggy widget]

You may need to work on making your /æ/ different enough from /ɛ/

Part of the ability to differentiate similar (similar to you at least) sounds by ear comes from being able to make both of them consistently

I noticed this also in your video in a couple of places

Where the text read "sat right by the ocean", you said "set right by the ocean"

And "retractable" was quite close to /ɛ/, like a Conservative RP type of realisation

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These 2 vowels are reliably contrasted in just about every native accent, and unlike a lot of things, are differentiated in spelling very reliably too (you don't get /æ/ from "e" and you rarely get /ɛ/ from "a")

The video was very good btw, flows nicely
No stress mistakes either, since you asked lol

Mainly just small pronunciation things

E.g. "stadium" shouldn't have an aspirated t, it should sound more like it contains "day" than "tay"

There's some mixing going on between t/d & th as well

"This is one of the newest..." good
"...football stadiums in da world" suddenly a d has appeared :)

It's quite common for non-natives to replace th with t/d, but interestingly you also do the opposite sometimes

Like "The Jakartha International Stadium" with a voiced th, and "Ith only opened" with a voiceless one

[trim sandal]

@craggy widget Oh, wow, that's complete feedback for me. I appreciate it! :)) Thank you so much

[trim sandal]

Thank you so much.
Tried to do my best by learning the pronunciation before recording. But yeah, still some things missed hehe

[sacred badger]

Very nice analysis lol

I like it

I love how elaborate and vivid it was

[weak tendon]

My name is Miles Morales. I was bitten by a radioactive spider. And for like two days, I've been the one and only Spider-Man. I think you know the rest.

[trim sandal]

Hi Miles.

The words that were missing (like you were too fast) are:
-was /wəz/
-bitten /ˈbɪtn/
-radioactive /ˌreɪdiəʊˈæktɪv/
-spider /ˈspaɪdə(r)/

You have a good accent and intonation btw. But I don't have any idea about your origin

[weak tendon]

Im Chinese

[weak tendon]

sooo do i sound american?

[finite sapphire]

i guess you could, but for some unknown reason you omit so many sounds... like if they were here then maybe you would have

[brazen ermine]

"radioactive" sounded like a very good "woody added", but not like "radioactive"

It's very common for Chinese speakers to want to reduce the number of syllables and reduce the endings of syllables because English has much more complicated possible syllables compared to Chinese

for "radioactive", first make sure you can say each syllable separately (reyd iy ow akt iv), then try to say them together without dropping any sounds

You also used a great /r/ in "spider", so to say "radio" and "Morales" you should think about using the same type of sound (both times in the recording it sounded like you said /w/ instead)

[finite sapphire]

ive never thought about this but tbh makes sooo much sense... i noticed it not only in english, mandarin speakers were doing the same in polish too (am native polish)

but never really thought about it too much lol

[brazen ermine]

Apart from "Morales" (both /r/ and /l/) and "radioactive" (reducing syllables a little too much) though, you actually did a really good job with intonation and phonemes in general

With just those two words fixed it sounds like you have a good native-like base accent, but it still includes a couple nonstandard things like /d/ for "the"

(The issue with /l/ was that you used a tap [ɾ] in "Morales" and "for like", which isn't part of native accents—your tongue should be flattened so the air goes around the sides of it, and the front part should touch the top of your mouth for a little more time)

[sacred badger]

Not there yet, but not too far behind

Gotta work on it

[agile sonnet]

Good evening. I would like some opinion on this: https://voca.ro/1gJVqsBBRrdL (a reading of https://www.bible.com/bible/111/GEN.11.1-9.NIV , one of the pinned texts). I know I've mispronounced some "s"-sounds (because of "tongue fails")

[finite sapphire]

your pronunciation of "earth" is inconsistent

"be scattered over the face of the whole earth" vs the last "earth" in the whole paragraph

you made these two absolutely different

[finite sapphire]

and the one at the whole end sounds the best tbh

[finite sapphire]

0:12 you pronounced "said" same as "say", they are different, you may wanna look them up

[finite sapphire]

0:47 now you tried to say "said" in a different way, but this way is not correct either

00:55 your "confuse" sounds like "confu-", you omitted s

[agile sonnet]

Thanks for your remarks
I've noticed the differences with "earth", yeah, actually my pronunciation in general is quite inconsistent I think
I note the correct pronunciation of "said" (I thought it was like "seid")

@finite sapphire What do you think of my reading taken as a whole?

[finite sapphire]

00:57 "understand" is also incorrect

1:14 "the whole world", your "world" doesnt have the "l" sound which makes it sound like british "word"

[gloomy pier]

I' ve a question. The pronunciation of the verbs with ending ed for example painted sometimes sound like i or E ??

For me painted sound like I and printed like E

[finite sapphire]

its hard to describe in words... you really should look up words with -ed and listen carefully to each of them

the "e" in -ed is almost silent, almost, i dont know how to elaborate about phonetics so i cant go into details, you will benefit by listening to it by yourself and paying attention

[finite sapphire]

the -ed in these two words is the same when it comes to pronunciation tho

[finite sapphire]

i think its very nice

like its in the right direction

you missed few "-s" sounds and few words were pretty odd as i mentioned, but you got the idea of the accent i believe

[gloomy pier]

Oh thanks bro, that's help me a lot

[agile sonnet]

Thanks for your remarks

[finite sapphire]

glad to help

[trim sandal]

Good morning.
Please let me know what you think about my English here?

I made a script by myself. I have an issue about grammar as well 😁

[sacred badger]

You have a lovely accent

Very warm and soft

[trim sandal]

Thank you 😀

[weak tendon]

Fs

[arctic inlet]

https://voca.ro/1dtZlElgsm2Y

i tried to do intonation by stressing important words, does that sound alright?

also here’s the passage, it’s my favourite book btw

[finite sapphire]

there were some tiny moments when you lagged a bit, it wasn't really stutter, but it was a delay between words which should not have happened normally

as if it was too much for you to say everything in a continuous cycle from the start to the end of the sentence, like as if you had to think about pronunciation of the next words two times

[finite sapphire]

you have a very good accent tho

it sounds so clear

[finite sapphire]

i kind of noticed it, it was fine, not very strong but if i pay attention then i feel it, you sound absolutely alright, there is nothing very odd about your recording other than these small delays happening in random parts of the sentences

[finite sapphire]

i think i remember you posted something here once before, and you said these delays may be happening due to the nature of your native, so you end up extending the time between words which feels a bit odd, but tbh its very fine except for that detail... like maybe you're not used to reading many syllables at once, but when you do, then the pronunciation is clear

[finite sapphire]

pretty ironic that the platform the words were spoken on was tiktok

but true

[river lance]

I open TikTok to find motivational videos and help people

I think that the thing that people need most in this time is money management, which is something that we do not learn in school and most people have difficulty with.

[arctic inlet]

though i still struggle with the pronunciation, it's more of the intonation this time since i thought so hard about how to make my intonation sound less flat and more natural

[arctic inlet]

ahh thank you

[arctic inlet]

yeah it's quite hard for me to pronounce many english words at once

[finite sapphire]

do you listen to english on daily basis? i think it could help, for me it was the foundation of my whole english, like podcasts everyday and so on, i went as far as abandoning the media in my native

[finite sapphire]

hm yeah, but definitely doable, like you must know so much already as far as ive heard from the recording, i once knew one mandarin speaker, maybe not cantonese but both of these usually incorporate so many monosyllabic words (i guess?), and there were no delays whatsoever in their speech, so you can do that too

[arctic inlet]

i often watch english youtube videos but i don't think i watch on a daily basis, so i'll remind myself to do so every day👍

[arctic inlet]

thanks for believing in me, i also think i'll eventually get the hang of it, it'll take long though

[modern yew]

hi

[wild raven]

Hi. I'm tryna learn the /ɑ/ sound (American Accent). Could someone tell me how close I got?
https://voca.ro/1616mYQaeLfG

[finite sapphire]

no worries, everything takes long to get good at, and everyone knows you can make it! and even if they dont know, they will know

[finite sapphire]

i think it's close

am not a native tho, like am polish just as you are

[wild raven]

Alright, thx anyway

[finite sapphire]

papaj always in the spirit

[kindred hawk]

hello

[craggy widget]

It's mostly alright, sometimes a little too front/mid though

I'm not sure what the first word is supposed to be sorry

After that, "block", "bob", and "box" are halfway to being "black", "bab", and "backs", and "bottle" sounded totally like "battle"

[wild raven]

The first word is aunt

[craggy widget]

Ah

In nearly all of America, that word is the same as "ant"

[wild raven]

Yeah, I just realized that xD

Then forget it

[wild raven]

Yeah, I'm probably fronting it too much

It's still too close to /æ/

[lunar ore]

Hello, are you peeps online anytime, I want to make friends, you know.

[sacred badger]

In my experience the best way to make friends is by not asking them

You need to establish a connection then ask.

[steady mason]

Yes, you should just talk with people. If you feel like there’s a connection, then you should ask to be their friend.

[vale steeple]

.

[trim sandal]

Agreed. That's what I do 😁

[steady mason]

[vale birch]

Does somebody wanna be my friend????

[sacred badger]

I does not

[vale birch]

Aww why not?

You hurt my feelings

[river lance]

@vale birchlol i wathced look up last week and this kid is crazy

[lean tree]

is this ok? https://voca.ro/1gUtuHvmTZSp

[finite sapphire]

it's recognizable enough, but its not really the correct way

"comfortable" was also understandable, but far from the correct, both american and british english speakers pronounce it in a different way, but it was neither of them

"squirrel" was the most odd i think... i get that cuz its tough to get this one right, but yeah, it wasnt really squirrel

[finite sapphire]

i think you'd have to google these words and analyze how they are pronounced natively, if you wanna improve them, most of what you said is recognizable but yeah its not really correct

[brazen ermine]

It seems like the most effective way of commenting on this is just to go through and say what I heard for each word, so that's what I did

• think
• thing
• thought (mostly Indians say "th" this way)
• tree (mostly Indians say "tr" this way)
• drothe? (I don't know what word you're saying)
• thumb* (*there shouldn't be a /b/ here, and your "u" sounds very Australian)
• thin
• diss/deece
• that
• thumb (again?)
• feather, leather, weather (your "th" is actually very good in these words, it doesn't sound like "fedder" at all)

• library (you added a stop so that this sounded like "litebrary" or "lipebrary")
• strawberry
• birthday (you could practice saying /θd/ together: put your tongue on your teeth like you did, and then move it backward to the bump behind them)
• elephant
• vedgetable (the way you say "t" is common among Indians, but to non-Indians it might make this sound like "veardgetable" with an extra "r")
• comfortable (the way you said this is perfectly fine, but there are a few more common ways of saying it instead like blackcat pointed out)
• opportunity, beautiful, different
• challenge (the second half of this is usually weak, like "chal-inj" or "chal-nj" instead of "chal-enj")
• opportunity
• squirrel (this sounds more like "squarl" or "squire-l": you don't need to add any vowel before the "r", just squ+r+l)
• wishper (whisper?)
• syllable (the first part should sound like "sill" not "sile")
• journey (the tap you used for "r" made this sound how a native might say "jordany")

Overall, given what sounds like an Indian accent and a few spelling pronunciations, you're still easy to understand, but the things I mentioned might help/be things to keep in mind

[idle abyss]

https://voca.ro/11AEBgGhFl4H

and this is what i read :

[agile wren]

I can't exactly tell what kind of accent you have but I'd recommend speaking slowly when reading something out, try to enunciate the sounds you're trying to pronounce clearly in order to improve your accent. Muscle memory is a big part of learning accents, and in order to develop muscle memory you have to start slowly

Eventually you'll be able to read things without stuttering like that

[lone abyss]

https://voca.ro/1l1Ng2MZsiBQ. Could you please point out what to work on now? I mean specific features of pronunciation - such as individual sounds, word stress, sentence stress... is there anything particularly striking? (I'm aware of the unnatural pronunciation of "daily" and a few slips, but I didn't want to make a second recording just because of that)

[agile wren]

I can tell you're trying to speak using some sort of English accent, although there are a few words that you're not pronouncing correctly, and a phonological rule you're ignoring that is used in British English.
I'll start with the individual words you're pronouncing wrong and its respective IPA for the correct pronunciation.

Word - Your Pronunciation - Correct Pronunciation
You - [jɯ:] - [jʉʷ]
Sarah - [sɛɻə(x)] - [sɛɻə] (3x)
Happy - [hæpɛ(ʲ)] - [hæpi]
Start - [stɑɻt] - [sta:t]
Job - [ʤʊb] - [ʤɒb]
Area - [ɛɻa:] - [(e)ərɪə]
Bowl - [bɒ:ɫ] - [bəʊl]
Jacket - [ʧækɪt] - [ʤækɪt]
Picked up - [pɪktʔ ap] - [pɪkt ʌp]
Kid - [kɪtʰ] - [kɪd̚]
Got there - [gɒð ðe:] -[ɡɒ(tʰ~ʔ) ðeə]
Goose - [gɘs] - [gʉ:s]

Furthermore in a few words like "mirror" and "letter" you appeared to not be used to the British English rule where the last -r is usually dropped unless the word after it starts with a vowel sound.
So for the word "mirror" you pronounced it as [mɪɻəɻ] instead of [mɪɻə], pronouncing that final -r is more of an American thing and sounds a bit weird because you do seem to be going for an English accent.

Overall, very good pronunciation, however a bit more practice and you will definitely start speaking much like a native speaker.

[finite sapphire]

does "coerce" sound like "co-worse" to you, my dear reader?

[agile wren]

[koʊˈɜ:s]

[koʊ-wɜ:s] is co-worse

in british english, not american

[finite sapphire]

would you recognize the difference if a speaker told you "co-worse" and "coerce"? like i know co-worse is not a real word, but yeah

[agile wren]

there would be a stop in the middle if it were co-worse, so ye

like coew-worse

coerce is pronounced without any pauses

[finite sapphire]

what about this?

i meant *coerced, i didnt pronounce the d loud enough, i know

[agile wren]

pronunciation of the word "coerced" in american english is [koʊˈɜɻst]
your pronunciation is [ko:ɻst] or [ko'oɻst]

[finite sapphire]

hm... true

[agile wren]

there's a sort of w sound in the middle keep that in mind

[finite sapphire]

umm, okay, true, thanks for the feedback, but like, is it discernible, kind of? like would you know what this was supposed to be if i didnt tell you

[agile wren]

i guess yeah

[lone abyss]

Thanks a. million for the detailed feedback. Here is attempt 2 : https://voca.ro/1l8rqcacOlUN (just the kid is in fact a kit - like her tools). I'm aware of the rule of dropping "r"s at the end of the words, but I haven't noticed I pronounce them so much 😳

[finite sapphire]

wow you're so clear

[agile wren]

Again, slightly better, but here are a few sounds that you need to keep in mind:
Your pronunciation of the word "checked" is [ʧɛgd], or chegd. You pronounced washed as [wɒʒd], plain as blain, fleece as fleeze, and goose as [gɯs] instead of [gʉ:s]

Oh and the word "you" as well

I'd recommend getting used to the [ʉ] sound, it's a nasal sound when pronounced in the word "you" for example

I'd say your pronunciation for "you" in this clip was more similar to [jɘ]

Maybe [ɨ] I'm not sure

[lone abyss]

Thank you 🙂 so in general, make sure I'm not voicing unvoiced sounds, and work on my vowels for now.

I'll be working on that for a few days and then make another recording 🙂

[craggy widget]

You're doing really well!!
I'm going to mention a few things that I think are the most obvious/recurring first, then I'll post a longer list of things I heard in the 2nd attempt which you can ignore if you want to :)

• You're pronouncing a lot of rs. Sometimes, you pronounce an r before a word that starts with a vowel, but you put a pause or a glottal between the words. You can have a linking r, or you can make a separation between the words, but you can't do both
• The /a/ (as in "cat") you use now and then wanders quite close to sounding like an /ɛ/ (as in "get"). While we can usually tell from context, there are many many pairs of words that are different only by swapping these vowels. In most of America this vowel is usually [æ], and in conservative RP (the old-fashioned kind basically) it's anywhere from [æ] to [ɛ]. However in nearly all of England now, it is a more open front [a], and the difference to us is noticeable.
• You have a tendency to make the fortis sounds /p/, /t/, /k/, /tʃ/ sound like their lenis versions /b/, /d/, /g/, /dʒ/. There are 2 parts to this. Sometimes you added voicing ("checked" -> "chegged", and "washed" -> "wozhd"), and other times you left them voiceless but didn't use aspiration ("plain" -> "blain", and "waiting" -> "wading")

Here's the long boring list you can ignore lol

Oug

Robot does not like me

0:06 - "working" with a pronounced r
0:15 - "superb" with a pronounced r
0:16 - "practice" sounded more like "prectice"
0:20 - "that area" the consonants here were reversed and the vowel was more of an /ɛ/, so that isolated this actually sounded more like "death" than "that"
0:23 - "nearer" with a pronounced r at the end
0:24 - "to her liking" most of the time, and especially before consonants, the word "to" is unstressed and so has a schwa /ə/ (as in "about", "potato") rather than sounding like "too".
0:31 - Ideally "bowl" should be somewhere between what you used here and what you used before. The easiest way to think of the diphthong in this word is as the "lot" vowel + w.
0:33 - "checked" sounded like "chegged"

Ok it doesn't mind that

How is it going to feel about the 2nd half

0:39 - "plain" sounded like "blain". The breath of air (aspiration) that usually comes out with /p/ means the /l/ after it gets devoiced. In other words, "pl" has a mostly whispered l.
0:41 - "fleece" sounded like "fleas". Not the kind of jacket anyone wants to wear :)
0:47 - The issue here is stress, it should be "when she GOT there" rather than "when she got THERE"
0:51 - "waiting" this /t/ needs to be aspirated, currently it sounded halfway to "wading"
0:55 - "official" should be stressed on the 2nd syllable, leaving the 1st vowel as /ə/
0:56 - "letter" with a pronounced r at the end
1:02 - "rare" with a pronounced r at the end
1:10 - "in a dog" here you used [ʊ] so this sounded very much like someone from the north of England saying "dug". Everywhere else you get this vowel right so it's probably a one-off :)
1:16 - "sorry" has the vowel of "sock", not of "sore"

It's going to feel ok good

Silly machines

[craggy widget]

This is quite an interesting mix of surprisingly narrow transcription and things that definitely aren't right haha

[agile wren]

my dialect is from the east midlands so i was speaking about my own dialect lmao

not RP

tho she did sound like she was trying to do an RP accent so ur right

[craggy widget]

Ah I see cool

Even so

Do you really say [əʊ] in "bowl"? I can't hear that as anything other than exceptionally conservative RP-like

[agile wren]

yeah

[craggy widget]

Likewise with [eə] in "area"

[agile wren]

the initial sounds that are in the word area in most sources are written to be [eə] so i just took that from there, it sounded right to me

[craggy widget]

[eə], [æ], [ʌ], [ɪə], [i], this particular group of sounds together is like a giant sign saying "very posh RP speaker" lol

[craggy widget]

Well yes sadly there's an adherence to tradition we've not quite shifted yet

It's a monophthong for nearly everyone

[agile wren]

i'd say i pronounce area like [ɛɻɪə] in my dialect

i dropped out of uni when i was taking linguistics courses so i forgot many sounds

[craggy widget]

[ɛ:ɹ̈ɪjə] is pretty accurate for me with my very boring south eastern accent 🙃

[agile wren]

centralised /r/?

[craggy widget]

(I know [ɹ̈] is a crap symbol but I'm not dregding up all the crap to write it out in full)

[agile wren]

what does that sound like

[craggy widget]

The conventional somewhat arbitrary symbol for bunched/molar r

I say it's a crap symbol because it's really a back sound instead of a central one

[agile wren]

do you pronounce the [j] in the middle there fully?

[craggy widget]

Yeas

[agile wren]

thats weird

where are you from

[craggy widget]

Australia (birth) or England (family and speech) or Scotland (lived most of my life)

[agile wren]

ayy scotland less goo

man i wanna move there

my english speaking family is from derby so i speak their english if that's of any interest

[craggy widget]

Oh nice the center of mass of England

[agile wren]

thats right

[craggy widget]

Any reason?

[agile wren]

beautiful country

i heard that scots from glasgow cant understand each other

or is that edinburgh i forgot laready

[craggy widget]

Fair enough though in a city you see some,, less beautiful features

[agile wren]

regardless it has amazing nature and a good amount of chaos from what i've heard which is what i like

[craggy widget]

I've lived in Glasgow for the last few years, it's noticeably different accentwise to other parts yea

Other Scottish people don't tend to have much trouble with Glaswegians heh but the ones with thick accents like drunk tradesmen are world class difficulty

[agile wren]

dont some scottish dialects like have some sort of peculiar lexicon

like not even talking about scots

words that english speakers from outside the area wouldnt understand

[craggy widget]

Most things like that are Scots things that are very common even for people who don't speak full-on Scots

There's some stuff idk the exact origin of like "outwith" and "how?" being used to mean "why?"

[agile wren]

Ah expected as much

Scottish accents are funny asf that's all I associate them with lul

I used to watch the "you're a wizard Harry" videos every single day until I grew tired of it which took a long time fyi

[river lance]

Watch the frostbite scottish boy its so funny

[jagged vault]

https://voca.ro/1dD2lr6zGohY

[finite sapphire]

well, a nice take, few things happened tho:
00:23 make mistakes
00:55 "but you ARE the sim" instead of "but YOU are the sim"
02:35 "i had been doing that for days, years, months" instead of "i did that for days, years, months"
03:38 "don't hesitate" or "don't be hesitant" instead of "don't hesitant", you sounded like the last one

"do mistakes" is incorrect

the second thing, at 00:55, is an incorrect stress, you emphasized the wrong word, but thats not so huge i guess

i dont think "i did that for years" is necessarily deeply incorrect, but it would be more natural to use past perfect continuous there, thats why

i guess its tough for me to tell if you are french just by the accent, few words did actually sound a bit french, but overall it wasnt so prevelant, but am polish so am not a correct person to go into the tiniest details of pronunciation

[agile wren]

stress is fine if she meant it in the context of "but instead of seeing what sims do, you ARE the sim"

both work fine

[agile wren]

it's actually less natural cuz natives barely use that, both what she said and your version are completely interchangeable

her english is fine, more speaking practice would do her good but overall she speaks very well

[finite sapphire]

yeah its so nice

[finite sapphire]

okay thats interesting, like i guess i just look at this from a different perspective, natives so often do things smoothly and abandon too long forms

[agile wren]

theres a very thin line between acceptable speech and prescriptive speech, sometimes ungrammatical speech can pass because to most native speakers it's just natural

acceptability in linguistics is a bit complex in that regard