🧠｜serious-chat

[flint anchor]

That's why he called Non-Jews dogs?

[wild sapphire]

And peter calls them unclean

And Jesus says the gentiles are clean and not to treat them otherwise

[rocky coyote]

wait, let me see if im getting this right. the only concrete rebuttal to isfrun's case that jesus had unreasonable hatred towards pagan was his hospitality towards jewish people and high praise of gentiles?

[wild sapphire]

He uses an example when a gentile woman approaches Him for a miracle- He tells her that He was sent to the Jewish people, this is their time, and it would be wrong to give the children’s food to the dogs

And then the woman says even dogs get food from the table, and Jesus is so impressed by her faith that He gives her what she wants on the spot

And later, He tells peter and paul and everyone that everyone is part of His family

This was very hard for the Jews to understand as an idea

[rocky coyote]

because i'm waiting to see bumper invoke a verse to disprove the pagan antagonism specifically

[wild sapphire]

It made them uncomfortable but He made them do it

[wild sapphire]

I cant really understand Isfrun’s argument

She gave me one verse which I have explained- He uses a culturally relevant example to illustrate a principle in such a way that His disciples will understand

But He does not think the same way they do, and demonstrates this to them in practice

If she means paganism in general, well ofc paganism is false if Christianity is true

But Christ levied almost all of his criticism against the Jewish religious practices

He was there to help the Jews and also to criticize them for every corruption they had accumulated over the years

He wasn’t there about the pagans at all

And then later, Jesus forces a complete paradigm shift on His followers

He tells they must treat gentiles the same as Jews

That they are not unclean

Isfrun keeps equating pagans to gentiles for some reason

[flint anchor]

So basically Jesus sees non-jew as dogs and he wasn't sent to them?

[wild sapphire]

He doesnt- did you read anything I said?

You struggle with english

He calls His own followers sheep

[feral river]

tired of some shit like this

[wild sapphire]

He uses animal metaphors and nature metaphors constantly

He tells His followers gentiles are equal to Jews

That is what Jesus has to force down their throat

[manic juniper]

Racism bad isn't difficult to understand, or killing a tree

[wild sapphire]

Okay isfrun

[manic juniper]

Or making pigs kill themselves because...???

[wild sapphire]

Im a racist or Jesus is

You win

@flint anchor you win buddy boy

[manic juniper]

This wasn't described as a parable, but as a miracle he did

[manic juniper]

He really doesn't, later books do. Jesus definitely doesn't

[wild sapphire]

No idea what this refers to, the pigs?

[feral river]

if you are not accusing our ethnic states

[wild sapphire]

Isfrun, you affirm the miracles and sayings you disagree with as beinf from Jesus, and disregard the ones you wouldnt disagree with

[manic juniper]

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew 8%3A28-34%2CLuke 8%3A26-37&version=NASB

[wild sapphire]

If you believe Jesus cast demons into pigs

[manic juniper]

"But he also did good things!" 😭😭😭

I CAN'T

[wild sapphire]

Then I will say that He told Peter that Gentiles are equal to Jews

[flint anchor]

You're on nothing lil bro, you can't defend your religion, go learn more then come to debate

[wild sapphire]

They are all good things

[wild sapphire]

Very well

[feral river]

it's more interesting to have a match on League of Legends than debating some shit ass about a backward ideology called religion

[manic juniper]

Yes killing innocent pigs, involving them in human matters. Zapping dead a tree

[wild sapphire]

I will leave you with the intellectual titan that is Isfrun

@manic juniper @flint anchor make friends

[manic juniper]

No need to be cringe about it

[wild sapphire]

Im not cringing

[feral river]

declare the war on every pig

[manic juniper]

Yes we know

We are cringing

[wild sapphire]

I said i would believe the best

[manic juniper]

Jesus moment

[wild sapphire]

But that was contingent on you not proving me wrong

[manic juniper]

He could've transferred those demons on the flies circling around the pigs

Lol I can come up with much better solutions

[feral river]

wondering if he made some stupid shit ever exist in the bible

[manic juniper]

It's crazy that he opted to kill an entire herd over this

[feral river]

but I'm not going to find it to read that ass

[wild sapphire]

You are categorically one of the most self obsessed, self blind, unfeeling, unkind, dishonest, vicious people i have ever met, and you use your intelligence in almost never a benevolent way except to prey on others for your own amusement

[manic juniper]

They are the same thing

[wild sapphire]

I wanted to see good in you

[manic juniper]

We are talking about the first century

[wild sapphire]

I wanted to trust you

[manic juniper]

Pagans and gentiles were pretty much the same thing

[wild sapphire]

I was stupid on every account

I was completely and categorically wrong in every positive thing i ever assumed about you

[manic juniper]

At least I don't randomly insult and criticise people I don't know

[wild sapphire]

And i slowly had to learn that

[feral river]

why you think that's bad

[wild sapphire]

One thing at a time

[manic juniper]

Someone here has the habit of doing this all the times

[feral river]

actually it's not bad for an individual

[wild sapphire]

You are right, power

[static pivot]

Lie

[manic juniper]

When did I insult you

[feral river]

our capitalist world need more people like it

[static pivot]

In english server

[wild sapphire]

Indeed

[static pivot]

You and love

[manic juniper]

Proof?

[static pivot]

Were racist

Insulting

[manic juniper]

She mentioned Indians, I just mentioned Nabi's nationality to correct her

Because she thought most mods were Indians

I couldn't care less about the entire mod team being Indian or Algerian as long as they do a good job

[static pivot]

Lemme post

[manic juniper]

Yes

[flint anchor]

That's your response to everyone debunking you and Christianity. It's funny to see you say that about her after you were just flattering her when you couldn't answer me.

[feral river]

actually I care that shit but that doesn't make me a racist

I care about races, religious alleigance, gender

that doesn't make me a racist dude

[manic juniper]

He always does this with me, it's kinda weird lol

[wild sapphire]

Rhetoros, you are just a bystander

You dont know the bible and you dont know isfrun

[feral river]

these stuff are the most surface thing you could know something behind a person without approaching

[manic juniper]

Sure and surely this guy knows me better

[feral river]

you could possibly know what a person would behave under these factors

that's the reality and truth

[static pivot]

2 liars

[feral river]

I don't think we should turn our eye off by seeing these guys as plain ass that was so crazy

[manic juniper]

I just confirmed her suspect of you being Indian lol

[wild sapphire]

And you have deserved it everytime- i apologize for where i go wrong and even for things i shouldnt apologize for, and i let all of your slights and faults go because i tried so hard to be kind and patient but i dont know what you are

[manic juniper]

How is that racist or even a lie, I'm waiting to see the insults

[wild sapphire]

You dont apologize ever

[static pivot]

Guys erase all your contacts w isfrun

[wild sapphire]

But why would you

[flint anchor]

You had to see me like that because you couldn't answer me lol

[manic juniper]

I only insulted Nabi, or at least criticised him

[static pivot]

Spread the news of her being racist

[manic juniper]

Not for being Algerian either

[wild sapphire]

I answered you a billion times good grief go to bed

[static pivot]

[flint anchor]

Wtf are you on bro 😭

[wild sapphire]

You are not party to this

[feral river]

I would not to say about it

[wild sapphire]

Or befriend isfrun

Idk i dont mind that

[manic juniper]

Btw I didn't insult you, I just asked if she was referring to you because I don't know other Indian mods besides you

[feral river]

but people who know me would know my stance on it

[manic juniper]

Burberry maybe? Is she a mod or Indian? Idk

[static pivot]

Maybe you like me

[manic juniper]

As a mod? Who knows

[static pivot]

Burberry is no mod

as normally

[feral river]

if you are from the:

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

[manic juniper]

There was at least another Indian mod but it's not something I pay attention to or care about

[static pivot]

You see my charm

[wild sapphire]

Doubtless

[static pivot]

and who are you exactly

american fan

[feral river]

a regular person from the PRC

[static pivot]

Bunch of goons

[flint anchor]

Your answer was a denial of the Old Testament and an interpretation of the New Testament according to your opinion. This is not an answer.

[manic juniper]

I legit insulted you once lol, because you tested my patience which is something few people do

[feral river]

your enemy

[wild sapphire]

I wasnt under the impressions members of the prc loved america

[feral river]

🇨🇳 PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA

[manic juniper]

I don't think I'll apologise for that as long as you keep this behaviour, not just with me but with everyone you don't know

[wild sapphire]

Isfrun casual niceties, kindnesses, acts of empathy

They are lost to you, or you dont care about them, idk

[feral river]

or possibly not if you are not from the US

[static pivot]

Only a handful

[wild sapphire]

You are singular and i cant explain your behavior

[manic juniper]

You seem a bit obsessed with surface level kindness and compassion

[wild sapphire]

I wanted to assume benevolence but overtime i have settled on malice

[manic juniper]

You should rather focus on what people don't say rather than what they say

[feral river]

ofc I love America the most powerful country ever existed in the world

[wild sapphire]

I care about it as a principle, and i dont know what you think it is

[static pivot]

Bumperfish running on chatgpt

[wild sapphire]

Maybe you model it after the reptile way

[static pivot]

Better u ignore him

[wild sapphire]

Bro what are you talking about

[feral river]

the country that hold all the guns

[manic juniper]

I don't go around bragging about the work I do, if they wish to ask me about it I'll tell them. But I don't need or require good guy points to live

[feral river]

freedom democracy on guns

can't wait to drop more democracy on some shit land

[wild sapphire]

The work you do?

[manic juniper]

Yes

[wild sapphire]

With the animals?

[manic juniper]

Yes

[wild sapphire]

Yes

[manic juniper]

Even when it's volunteering because I don't limit myself to my working hours

[wild sapphire]

Ofc

[manic juniper]

To me it's a duty for life

[wild sapphire]

Ofc

You do love animals

Nobody can question this

[feral river]

I love properties

[wild sapphire]

I see that

[manic juniper]

Then what's even your point, you already judged me for this assuming I don't do any good things and all I do is prey on people, something which I almost never do anymore. At least I can't recall doing it since 2017

[feral river]

I mean animal are properties

[wild sapphire]

You would be a terror in monopoly im sure

[manic juniper]

No

[wild sapphire]

I was arguing with basmala

Basmala maintained islam was a religion of peace

[manic juniper]

In my country there is a valuable lesson about minding your business, something which I don't always do either

[wild sapphire]

I asked him what peace meant

[manic juniper]

But at least I don't overstep like that

[manic juniper]

She

[wild sapphire]

She* said peace is living in balance and avoiding injustice

[feral river]

peace ment we won the fucking war against losers

and go plan for another war

[manic juniper]

No, you judged someone you don't know and I, for yet another time

[wild sapphire]

Basmala convinced herself that Islam is peaceful by a definition of peace she contrived to accomodate Islam’s actions

[manic juniper]

I don't care about the root of the argument, what does that have to do or justify

[wild sapphire]

You think you are a good person by a very Isfrun-centric moral system you have contribed

[manic juniper]

I don't consider myself a good person

[wild sapphire]

You hate humans generally, and think animals deserve your carr

[manic juniper]

Yet another assumption

[manic juniper]

False

[wild sapphire]

Clearly you think your work with animals constitutes good people points

[solid abyss]

Hello, whats the topic?

[manic juniper]

False

The only thing it's good for is an example and motivation to other people, just for the sake of nature being healed. It has nothing to do with Intrinsic goodness and other philosophical bullshit

[wild sapphire]

Okay so isfrun, since you have stated time and time again that you hate humans, and you just stated it is a duty to take care of animals, what is the supposed truth-

[true lark]

What.

[manic juniper]

It being a duty isn't linked in any way to getting good guy points

I just know how people who see the world in black and white think, and they'd see this thing as good on a superficial level. I literally don't care

[wild sapphire]

And this?

[manic juniper]

I could easily brag about it 24/7 and delude myself into being the best person in the model

[wild sapphire]

You dont hate humans now?

[manic juniper]

I hate humanity, not humans, and no thinking "they deserve care" is quite childish and simplistic

It's just something I do

[wild sapphire]

You hate humanity, not humans

And you do take care of them, yes?

[manic juniper]

Do you not hate the rainbow flag and what it represents

Do you also hate gays

[wild sapphire]

I really feel ambivalent about it

Nope, not at all

[manic juniper]

Yes

[true lark]

Just like one can hate Christianity but be friends with a Christian

[manic juniper]

Then those things aren't related just as hating humanity isn't related to hating humans

[manic juniper]

Literally me

[true lark]

I think the heavens got angry over that statement, it suddenly started to rain way worse XD

[wild sapphire]

Im glad you treat some people kindly in your sphere of influence

[manic juniper]

What

[wild sapphire]

Yeah i mean

[manic juniper]

I don't treat anyone kindly

It's just a reaction to how they treat me and the prejudices I hold on them

[wild sapphire]

I know you love to act with massive outrage whenever i misunderstand you even though you love not telling anyone what you are thinking and saying things without ever explaining any of them, and then choosing when to answer questions

But yeah based on all your rhetoric and all

[manic juniper]

Because you keep doing it

[wild sapphire]

I see you as quite a callous black hearted individual

[lunar eagle]

Assalamu Alaikum

[manic juniper]

You are a repeated offender...

[wild sapphire]

I see

[wild sapphire]

This sounds compelling

[manic juniper]

Even Minecraft doesn't go too far with praising authoritarianism anymore, he learned to avoid things that would get him banned

Even ants can learn from their mistakes, why can't you. Perhaps you aren't doing it by mistake but you enjoy it

[lunar eagle]

Hows it going

[manic juniper]

Joku mu

[wild sapphire]

My mistake is attempting to communicate with someone who either doesnt want to communicate or doesnt know how

[true lark]

...

[wild sapphire]

I have made extreme efforts to make sure i understand you

[manic juniper]

Your mistake is judging people you don't know or insulting them

It's quite easy to correct, if it's something you think is worth correcting

[wild sapphire]

Everyone makes judgements, you are one of the best ive met

It is unfortunate therefore that you give false data all the time

[manic juniper]

Yes, I keep them for myself and I don't trust them

[wild sapphire]

And then get outraged when people make incorrect judgements

[wild sapphire]

Yes but unlike you i want to know if i understand correctly

[true lark]

Some people can compartmentalise

[manic juniper]

I don't get outraged, it's just annoying

[wild sapphire]

I guess you dont care about that

[manic juniper]

It's possible to do that just by being patient

[wild sapphire]

Isfrun

[manic juniper]

I don't doubt that I judge people 100 times more than you do, but at least I keep it for myself and I don't trust it fully

Am I wrong

[wild sapphire]

In order to make communication work

[manic juniper]

Oh wait I'm making a judgement now

[lunar eagle]

What does that mean

[manic juniper]

[wild sapphire]

Both parties need to reach across the gap and make some effort to communicate in the language the other party speaks

[manic juniper]

It's a greeting

[wild sapphire]

It requires teamwork

[manic juniper]

If they have the same intentions and goals then sure

[wild sapphire]

And i have put in so much effort to communicate with you and understand you

[true lark]

no personal attacks

[wild sapphire]

And you get mad at my mistakes when i am doing all the lifting

[manic juniper]

You can't chain the other party and pretend they will be cooperative

[lunar eagle]

Thanks! What language is it from

[manic juniper]

Finnish

[true lark]

Right enough of this, got any music recommendations

[wild sapphire]

I have released you more than once and then you persist in talking to me- the first time, i told you we would go our separate ways and i thought this would be suitable to both of us, and you respond to things i said or conversations i was in, well gosh isfrun, i wanted communication to work and i tried my best

[manic juniper]

I graduated from high school 7 years ago I hate it

[wild sapphire]

And you punished me for every failure

No good will or good faith

[manic juniper]

Do you like metal?

[wild sapphire]

I am not experienced in your way of thinking

[manic juniper]

I'm not the one who visited this place, serious chat is the domain of few regulars for the most part

[wild sapphire]

You are like an alien to me

[manic juniper]

If you come here and expect to talk with me then it's your choice, not mine

[wild sapphire]

I stayed in public chat

[manic juniper]

Serious chat isn't even that active, you can easily go to any other chat

[wild sapphire]

I thought to stay out of here but when you came to general i thought it was okay to visit serious, its not like i am not interested in religion and history

[lunar eagle]

I think you've finished university

[manic juniper]

Simply casting and transferring the blame onto me doesn't magically absolve you

[true lark]

Not really, but if it's made by talented artists I can usually somewhat appreciate it

[manic juniper]

Yes

[wild sapphire]

You share a lot of blame and have absolved none of it

I apologize and i keep apologizing for when i make mistakes

Again i do all the lifting, and look

[true lark]

....

[manic juniper]

It often is but idk if it's too extreme I doubt you may like it. I think there is metal that's friendly to non-metalheads, try listening to Nemo by Nightwish

[wild sapphire]

This is completely impossible let us admit it

[lunar eagle]

I’ve only finished my first year

[manic juniper]

Or really many other songs by them

[wild sapphire]

We are too different

[true lark]

That's very arrogant

[manic juniper]

What are you pursuing

[wild sapphire]

Its arrogant of you to come to this conclusion with no awareness of history except for this chat

[manic juniper]

Fun fact: you don't really need that much more context than this

[wild sapphire]

You do

[lunar eagle]

I’m studying computer science

[manic juniper]

Because it's always the same thing

[manic juniper]

An interesting subject for sure, are you enjoying it so far?

[true lark]

That doesn't change the fact that you are also arrogant

[wild sapphire]

Yes isfrun, I, constantly trying to contort myself into new shapes to be friendly and accomodating to you

And you who do barely minimim except to mock me when i make mistakes

Let me assure you i have learned my lesson

[manic juniper]

You can simply be yourself instead of trying to please other people and then be upset because they're still the same person

[wild sapphire]

I think kindness accomodates others

[manic juniper]

I wouldn't if they were different mistakes

[wild sapphire]

There are things that i will not budge on

[manic juniper]

It's not even mocking I'd say, I could be much worse than this

[wild sapphire]

But i try to be flexible for others

[true lark]

I have seen this happen a few times from you, instead of apologising for your own faults and then talking about those of others, you defend not by rectifying what you did, but by attacking others with it

[lunar eagle]

Just little

[wild sapphire]

That is the kind thing to do

[manic juniper]

My power levels are suppressed to an absurd amount

[manic juniper]

Serious chat works like this

[wild sapphire]

Nia i apologize on the regular you just see what you want or what you are able to see

[manic juniper]

It's the most diverse place on the server

We have extremists of every kind and normal people too

[wild sapphire]

With all five regulars

[manic juniper]

We are the most LGBT tolerant too

[wild sapphire]

Of all loolllll

[manic juniper]

Not that it's an high bar anyway

[true lark]

I am not talking about on the regular, I am talking about this specific instance where I called you out on something you still haven't responded to besides accusing me of it as well

[wild sapphire]

Okay i see very distinct communities

[manic juniper]

On this server? Yes

[wild sapphire]

And what was this

[manic juniper]

Can you deny it? I wouldn't be able to

[wild sapphire]

Deny what?

The diversity?

[manic juniper]

Minecraft is pro LGBT for example, he just doesn't want them to have special authority

[wild sapphire]

Yes i think this chat is more lgbt friendly on the whole

[manic juniper]

That this place is quite welcoming in general

[wild sapphire]

Yeah i guess

[true lark]

A defense, and then a request to look back at this specific case

[wild sapphire]

Maybe unfortunately

[manic juniper]

It's the most feminist channel too

[wild sapphire]

You get the pedophiles and whatevers

[manic juniper]

Perhaps the only thing it doesn't have over the others is racism, could be the most racist channel but I'm unsure

[wild sapphire]

What do you want me to apologize for exactly

[manic juniper]

Most of them have been driven off this channel

[wild sapphire]

Look i like this channel

[manic juniper]

No hard feelings if you're seeing this

[wild sapphire]

I dont know why we are even talking about this

[wild sapphire]

You think someone came back?

[manic juniper]

Serious chatters tolerate each other based off their big disagreements

They will come to accept them

[true lark]

I am not asking you to apologise, I'm asking to accept that you were also arrogant, instead of accusing me of being arrogant without defending or accepting what I said

[wild sapphire]

That’s a good thing

[manic juniper]

I don't think he will, certainly not soon

[thorny steeple]

What's srs about a srs chat? 👀

[neon sierra]

alr, and btw she is a girl

[wild sapphire]

Oh no, you presume arrogance because you spoke to an issue you dont have any data on except the allusions isfrun and i are making

[manic juniper]

His sister then? He has a sister with the same username

She's not active in a ridiculously long time

[wild sapphire]

Isfrun may argue otherwise, and i will counter, but nia you have nothing but our words

You shouldnt be arbitrating here

Anyway

To be completely honest

[true lark]

Then here is my counter-argument, even if your statement was true, its still arrogant to claim you carried the conversation

[true lark]

I'm not

[wild sapphire]

Despite everything, isfrun does not require other people to arbitrate on her behalf

[manic juniper]

Nia is judging based off what she witnessed so far, that's a fair thing to do all in all

[wild sapphire]

Isfrun and i are perfectly capable of disagreeing

I dont hate isfrun even now

[manic juniper]

Sometimes it's needed for a reality check

[true lark]

Arbitration doesn't include accusations, I'm not arbitrating, I'm just also talking about what's being said here

[wild sapphire]

I am frustrated

[manic juniper]

Emperors, pirates, all cancer

[wild sapphire]

Sure isfrun when someone adjudicates in your favor with no data except to choose a side based on gut intuition

[feral river]

I didn't see you ever countered my argument or statement

[wild sapphire]

I didnt see it

[feral river]

does that mean you agree with me on that

[wild sapphire]

I have been talking to isfrun

[feral river]

even that counts in before

[hushed ore]

Are u chinese?

[manic juniper]

I don't pick sides ever, I already am on a side

[wild sapphire]

Yeah the reptiles, okay

[feral river]

yeah

[wild sapphire]

What was it warlord

[feral river]

had too much I forgot tbh

[neon sierra]

no it is the same person only that they kept insisting being a girl. i dont know

[feral river]

well that's it whatever

[wild sapphire]

If you remember it dm me

[manic juniper]

Could be

[feral river]

nah that's boring we just see if there will be something new coming out

[manic juniper]

Chinese and Finnish people don't have a gender

The idea is implanted on them

[feral river]

if you search about my statement in this chat

probably got a thousand record

[feral river]

how dare you can assume our gender

[neon sierra]

[feral river]

you are not respecting us, that's discrimination

[neon sierra]

i believe you said it

i usually call everyone they out of respect

[wild sapphire]

Well idk was it about religion or what

Was it war

[feral river]

religion stuff and power stuff yeah

[wild sapphire]

Declare it

[feral river]

IT WAS ABOUT WAR

EVERYTHING IS RELATED TO WAR

[strange sandal]

Hi, I'm new here. What can we discuss in this chat? Apart from arguing with each other, of course😅

[wild sapphire]

Your full power unleashed

[manic juniper]

Hen hän supremacy

[wild sapphire]

You know what to do

You dont need my permission

[feral river]

DECLARE THE WAR ON EVERYTHING

[manic juniper]

To war

[feral river]

another random day that I proud of my country has the ability to destroy the earth entirely

[wild sapphire]

I would love to play minecraft sometime

That would be fun

I think

[true lark]

I am not solely in isfruns favour

[wild sapphire]

You would probably invade my house and make it a vassal state

[true lark]

I called both of you out on some things haha

[wild sapphire]

Nia genuinely i could care less, your offense is slight and nonexistent

On the whole i think you are a fine person

[neon sierra]

i will become army and destroy china

[feral river]

well nah I don't do that shit on friends, all I would do is just we combine our economy and spend all on weapons to conquer others

[neon sierra]

🍇

[manic juniper]

Much respect for Nia

[feral river]

95% of our spending has to be the weapons and armors

[wild sapphire]

We should play

[feral river]

yeah I have ever done that before

[wild sapphire]

I have minecraft on fifty seven devices

[manic juniper]

My paid vacations start soon, I just have to resist 2 more days

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-when-fun-begins-smile-happy-gif-15656461

[feral river]

if you got a pvpable free market server that you can loot their stuff by kill them, why not

[wild sapphire]

I dont know if you are open to this but i think it could be fun if the three of us made a server or some such

And whatever other serious chat regulars have minecraft

It wouldnt be awful surely

[manic juniper]

Do you think there isn't something like this?

[wild sapphire]

Oohhhh lol you guys play

[manic juniper]

It's called the Serious Chat Provisional Government

[wild sapphire]

Nevermind then

[wild sapphire]

I will try to find one lol

Why not play an actual pvp game

This chat was probably one of the most absurd that has ever taken place herr

Not the most offensive though

[neon sierra]

what are yall even debating

[wild sapphire]

We arent anymore

[neon sierra]

i tried reading but uhm

[wild sapphire]

[neon sierra]

well good

omg ur bumperfish

[wild sapphire]

Yes lol

[manic juniper]

Big monkey

[neon sierra]

i was named bumpercowlii, i guess u were the guy who “converted” me into bumperism

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/animals-funny-monkey-shocked-baby-gif-15530007

[wild sapphire]

Isfrun and i sort of frustrate each other, argue, and then suddenly we arent

Idk

[manic juniper]

No I don't care, I met much worse subjects before

[neon sierra]

[wild sapphire]

Lol

[wild sapphire]

Subjects as in people or subjects as in subject matter

[neon sierra]

political, or religion talk

[manic juniper]

People

[wild sapphire]

Oh lol

[neon sierra]

oh okay

[manic juniper]

People who devoted their entire existence to my destruction

[wild sapphire]

Im sorry

[neon sierra]

thats mature tho, well in case u literally meant it

[manic juniper]

They were just quite obsessed

[true lark]

But neither of you are actual bumpers

[neon sierra]

nope i just had the name for a month or two i think and then they told me i should be aware that it is a cult

[wild sapphire]

Ooooh

Well hi

[neon sierra]

I see

[wild sapphire]

Yeah the cult with such esoteric teachings such as “be nice”

[true lark]

Bumperfish isn't a bumper either

[manic juniper]

Ironic

[wild sapphire]

Isfrun you are singularly difficult

I mean sincerely, never met anyone like you

[manic juniper]

What

[neon sierra]

dw i didnt think it was a cult at all. all i remember was that it was all nice as well. I think the issue was that you were gathering people and that yall became too many

[true lark]

Oh shoot my head is bleeding

[neon sierra]

i think isfrun is really a respectable person

[wild sapphire]

No they told me why

They didnt like the server trusted me more than the mods

[manic juniper]

How did that happen

[wild sapphire]

The cult thing was a pretense

[wild sapphire]

Nosebleed?

@feral river

[neon sierra]

wait you werent a mod?

[true lark]

No, idk my head itself has a small wound that's bleeding a relative lot, because it's a head probably

[wild sapphire]

What the heck??

[neon sierra]

wait it is bleeding fr

😭

[manic juniper]

Thanks

[true lark]

I probably scratched it when I hit it earlier, even though it didn't hurt

[true lark]

Well yeah

[wild sapphire]

Are you actually thankful

[neon sierra]

omg i hope you are okay

[wild sapphire]

Im curious

[manic juniper]

?

[neon sierra]

yes she is

[wild sapphire]

You should apply some antibacterial lotion

[neon sierra]

i can insist

[wild sapphire]

You know her well enough to say?

[manic juniper]

I usually don't care if people compliment or insult me but if I do then I will thank them

[true lark]

Yeah yeah it's fine, headsjust bleed lots from small things because of all the veins

[wild sapphire]

You regularly poo poo such trivial ges ahh

[neon sierra]

well she wrote it to me and not to you so i think i dont have to question it at all because what does she gain by with lying

[feral river]

sounds like your head need some freedom and democracy 🇺🇸

[wild sapphire]

She answered the question

[true lark]

I doubt that would help

[neon sierra]

well usually i write thanks without really meaning it. it is just a gesture

[wild sapphire]

Have you played helldivers?

[neon sierra]

i mean theres no issue with that

[feral river]

well nah

[wild sapphire]

No there isnt

[neon sierra]

see i wrote the same above

[wild sapphire]

You are making it a deal though

[neon sierra]

well abt myself

[wild sapphire]

No need for that

[neon sierra]

well i see your point now

[manic juniper]

I try to ignore compliments or insults but if I take them into consideration I will let the person know

[neon sierra]

but everyone views things differently

[manic juniper]

True

[wild sapphire]

What does that mean exactly, consideration

[neon sierra]

sometimes you dont have to mean things to say them (idk how that works but yh)

[manic juniper]

Criticism

[wild sapphire]

Yes i know which is why i am asking isfrun to share her perspective

[manic juniper]

It was unneeded

[wild sapphire]

And this compliment? It registered somehow?

[feral river]

Isfrun would somehow go super vague when she's expressing ideas

[manic juniper]

Yes because she's cowlii

[wild sapphire]

Yes she does

[manic juniper]

Agreed

[wild sapphire]

Interesting

[feral river]

I don't I just say that ass

[wild sapphire]

I know i love your communication style

Its delightful

Profane but amusing and you mince no words

[manic juniper]

Self-control shouldn't be overlooked

[wild sapphire]

Lovely, i love it

[feral river]

just go straight is the best way to express everything

[wild sapphire]

Staright?

Oh i agree

[feral river]

apple keyboard sucks

[wild sapphire]

Its okay dont worry

I thought it might be an app or something

[feral river]

I just don't like that auto-type shit I disabled it and I would cause some error when I'm typing some words

[wild sapphire]

Do you have a console?

[feral river]

it was not I forgot how to type it, it just sucks

[wild sapphire]

Pc gamer only?

[feral river]

no I own a pc

[wild sapphire]

Gngngnmfmfm

Thats okay i guess everything is cross platform now anyway

[neon sierra]

is dog eating still common there

[wild sapphire]

[feral river]

even now im playing games tho

[manic juniper]

Minecraft is a really devout dog eater

He doesn't like cats tho

[neon sierra]

yup one of my mute reasons there

[wild sapphire]

So this isnt racism

[neon sierra]

of course not

[wild sapphire]

Okaay that’s gooood

[neon sierra]

he is the one claiming it

you should read his previous messages

[feral river]

DOG SUPER DELICIOUS

[wild sapphire]

Depends- if you say this to a Chinese American they are likely to get offended at you

[feral river]

trust me it was true dude

[neon sierra]

he claims it is totally cultural to eat dogs and that it should be respected

[wild sapphire]

They will consider it racism likely

[manic juniper]

Because they're Americans and they don't eat dogs I guess

[neon sierra]

i agree with them because i disagree with the other

[wild sapphire]

Yes

[neon sierra]

in their view point tho

idk what i just typed

[wild sapphire]

Situational racism

[manic juniper]

I wonder how dog pizza would taste

[neon sierra]

but what i meant is

[wild sapphire]

Communication is hard sometimes

[feral river]

we do what the fuck ever we want on our properties

it's our devine freedom granted by the Chinese government

[wild sapphire]

Our divine freedom from the chinese government lol

[neon sierra]

i dont think the majority eats dogs and nor that it should be respected, but then when i think again about it. my opinion is very subjective. Like why can you eat a sheep but not a dog.

[manic juniper]

I'm a staunch supporter of feral animal consumption

Many people in Australia are doing this to cats and it's absolutely needed

[neon sierra]

yeah like genocide

[wild sapphire]

That’s weird, i imagine the meat is riddled with parasites and things

[neon sierra]

and then i come to the conclusion that they both are very different animals but how different

[round sedge]

yoo guys !!! i wanna be friends!!!

[true lark]

That's why you cook it...

[wild sapphire]

They must go to some lengths to prepare it for consumption

[manic juniper]

It is, but it's not like they didn't eat feral animals before

Cooking the meat rids it of most parasites

[wild sapphire]

Weird idea

[neon sierra]

weird to eat dogs as well

[wild sapphire]

I guess it saves money

[round sedge]

dang!!!! chat going on fire

[manic juniper]

One cat less is many animal lives saved

[true lark]

I am vegetarian but I think eating dogs is better than eating cows for example, because of the environmental impact

[wild sapphire]

Its not that, i figure if i wanted to go eat cat i would go to the grocery store

Not wander into the streets and shoot it

[manic juniper]

It's a net positive if they are not farmed

[round sedge]

[manic juniper]

Feral animals can do direct and indirect damage to the environment

[true lark]

Yeah exactly

[manic juniper]

Feral dogs breed with wolves and cause genetic pollution

[neon sierra]

dayum

[feral river]

that's true lmao

[neon sierra]

i wanna make a toxic joke to this idk why

😭

[wild sapphire]

Did you see ne zha 2?

[feral river]

yeah for free I watched in cinema

[wild sapphire]

Phenomenonal movie i thought

Chinese animation is cooking

[manic juniper]

One of the most flexible domestic animals in the world

[true lark]

I didn't become a vegetarian because of animal cruelty reasons

[feral river]

just not bad I prefer Japanese anime

Japanese anime 1st

[true lark]

There are other solutions to that

[wild sapphire]

Fair fair

[neon sierra]

+10000 credits

[manic juniper]

You can use them as guard dogs, as pack mules, as sled dogs... As cows

[neon sierra]

and you can cook them

[manic juniper]

Yes

[true lark]

Thats the cow function I think

[manic juniper]

Its main flaw is being limited by its environment

[neon sierra]

why did you become vegetarian, sometimes i wanna become one but i dont think ill manage

[manic juniper]

But it excels there

[wild sapphire]

I was a mod

[true lark]

Environment

[wild sapphire]

They demodded me because i said “someone is going to get banned”

They said i wasnt discrete enough

[neon sierra]

alr

[true lark]

It wasn't a challenge to me at all tbh

[neon sierra]

the f

[manic juniper]

Common Nia W

[wild sapphire]

I argued with them about the way the server was run

I didnt like for example that the vc had no perms

We got so many pedophilia streams every week

It was insane

[neon sierra]

well i dont think cosmos cares

his own language is brutal

[wild sapphire]

I told them it was better to stop it before it happened than punish it after twenty people are traumatized

[manic juniper]

Did they get Kürt unbanned?

[neon sierra]

are you politically more right or left if i can ask

[wild sapphire]

Im not sure i know him

[true lark]

Left as shit

[neon sierra]

that was the other english server and no, he who did it is the highest rank in the server

[manic juniper]

I know a few

[manic juniper]

Yes I was referring to it

[neon sierra]

okay so dont misunderstand, i am already too left if i start some type of vegan life i will start getting fucked

[manic juniper]

There is at least one Turk in the mod team there

I wonder if it's related

[neon sierra]

i love people who have pride in things they do

so i hope the best for you

[neon sierra]

idk why they are always the same tho

[wild sapphire]

Asinine

[true lark]

Veganism is a lot harder than vegetarianism

[wild sapphire]

To knowingly allow that garbage for so many years

I shouldnt have had to convince anyone

[neon sierra]

but i am somewhat conservative as well

[wild sapphire]

Pisses me off

[neon sierra]

who

[wild sapphire]

Make inferences

[neon sierra]

hmm

[true lark]

The only animal I'm against eating for cruelty reasons are horses, because A. The cruelty around their transport just for cheaper slaughter is unnecessary and just in general cruel, and B. Because I just really like horses and think they deserve better

[manic juniper]

Damn I'm kind of the opposite

[solid ocean]

I am allergic to eggs dairy and nuts so I always go for vegan alternatives, it’s all I know. Except when they have nuts than it’s a bit of a pain

[neon sierra]

i just eat fish sheep cow

[solid ocean]

Horse hater‼️

[manic juniper]

Jk it's more of a meme

[neon sierra]

in some cases duck

[wild sapphire]

Sheep is my favorite

[manic juniper]

I really do, kind of

[true lark]

Whyyy

[neon sierra]

no need for other animals i wont touch em

[neon sierra]

same

[wild sapphire]

Lamb and chicken

[neon sierra]

or no chicken

[manic juniper]

Too many bad stories about horses, I can only think of horses and dogs when it comes to randomly attacking people

Some dogs are fully insane and attack for no apparent reason

With horses it seems very random, when it comes to dogs it depends on their personality

[wild sapphire]

Or breed

[thorny steeple]

This reasoning is a bit shallow, don't you think?

[wild sapphire]

Pit bull

[manic juniper]

I classify certain dogs, most domestic horses and many small monkeys as fully immoral and irrational animals

[wild sapphire]

Chihuahuas are devils

[manic juniper]

People must be extremely wary around them

[wild sapphire]

I cant argue with this perspective

[true lark]

Well yeah it's very shallow, doesn't mean it isn't my opinion though

[wild sapphire]

You’re not wrong

People love animals but dont regard them with the proper respect snd wariness

[manic juniper]

I've been attacked by a border collie

[wild sapphire]

Many of them can kill you or seriously injure you without trying

[true lark]

Horses are never irrational, their rationale is different from humans though, they spook very very easily, and their instinct is to kick, bite, and run. All of those harm the people on or around haha

[manic juniper]

I also met a chill and quiet chihuahua

[manic juniper]

Thing is I'm really curious about what scares them sometimes

[wild sapphire]

It had recently gorged itself on blood

[manic juniper]

Because there are videos of them kicking people out of nowhere

[wild sapphire]

Will kill you

Horses are immensely dangerous

[true lark]

Well yeah, it's my personal reason, I don't expect others to have the same reasoning, it's just what I personally care about

[wild sapphire]

Beautiful animals though

[manic juniper]

I'm pretty sure it's a domestic horse issue

[true lark]

Oh it can be anything, a stick, the same person they've seen 1000 times already and are fully aware are walking to them (this happened two days ago to me haha)

[manic juniper]

I bet that Przewalski's horses aren't like this

[true lark]

Nope, wild ones too

[wild sapphire]

But this is what she is talking sbout

[true lark]

It's an issue with all horses XD, they spook from eeeverrything

[feral river]

we don't usually eat horses one is because it's expensive to dumplicate and produce in the factories, then we use them as vehicles in before the car was invented

[manic juniper]

I've never seen a Przewalski's horse attack people unless they aggressively approach them

[wild sapphire]

On the 1001th time it suddenly rears on you

[manic juniper]

And it's normal in that case, those are fully wild animals

[feral river]

they really consume very large amount of grass and they don't have very much meat that you can eat

it's just unnecessary

btw I ever ate one and donkey meat was delicious tbh

horses, well, not so good

[wild sapphire]

Thank you

[true lark]

No but normal horses also don't attack people for approaching, it's if you walk behind them or try to do something they don't want (like putting a saddle on if they don't feel like exercising) and when you're on them riding if something scares them they buck, not nessecarily to get you off, just because it's the natural response

[wild sapphire]

I will pass up on horse next time i see it on the menu

Go for the donkey or dog instead

[feral river]

in here we sell "驴肉火烧" donkey meat burger

you can find it on the streets

[wild sapphire]

Interesting

Idk i like donkeys

[true lark]

Yeah but that's exactly the cruelty I'm talking about, horses don't get bred to be eaten, the life-long pet horses will be sent on ships packed to the brim with 40% of them already being dead to a place where its cheaper to slaughter them

[wild sapphire]

I guess i eat cow….

[true lark]

It isn't shown on the menu, it's just included in "waste" meat like burgers etc.

[feral river]

I eat every meat when it's available

cat, well never tried that and I don't think there was a resturant which is offering cat meat

[wild sapphire]

There was big controversy when horse meat was found in hamburgers in the US

[true lark]

Yeah this is why

[feral river]

also even if it's available, it's gonna be served as luxuries

[wild sapphire]

Not halal and generall americans will balk at eating horse

You just dont eat certain animals here

Taboo

[feral river]

sounds not very land of the free

[true lark]

People don't consciously eat horse meat most of the time

[thorny steeple]

I do

[true lark]

most of the time

[wild sapphire]

Shouldnt eat bats though

[feral river]

who would eat that shit

that ain't delicious at all I bet you

[thorny steeple]

how do u know

[wild sapphire]

I wish you would document your food adventures

[feral river]

just like what an average Chinese men would try

yeah our food options are super diverse

[wild sapphire]

“Dear diary,

Today I tried some ****** pangolin. That ***** was ***** ******* ***** disgusting, *****

[manic juniper]

I saw a video of a girl getting curbstomped by an horse for no reason, she was just standing on the side

And also a chicken, just why

[wild sapphire]

Oh gosh

[true lark]

Have you heard chickens

[true lark]

Just like any animal some are crazy because of hormones, but I mean curb stomping isn't the normal first response

[manic juniper]

It was running, poor chicken

[wild sapphire]

😔

[manic juniper]

Why did it chase and stomp her

[wild sapphire]

That’s awful

[true lark]

First is biting (that's what they do in nature to signal someone to get away) then comes running away, last comes kicking and whatever (unless of course you're in a prime spot to be kicked)

[manic juniper]

For some reasons it's always dogs and horse that attack like that, sometimes cats do too but at least those are paper tigers

[true lark]

Idkk

[wild sapphire]

Would a horse be afraid of a chicken I guess?

[neon sierra]

a lot of people break their hands fingers or arms because of horses

[feral river]

paper tiger is so Mao zedong

[true lark]

Not just horses and dogs tbh, even crazy chickens exist, and really any animal

[wild sapphire]

Or their skulls

[thorny steeple]

I've read that americans once lynched an elephant who killed people by hanging it off a crane.

[wild sapphire]

What the hell

[feral river]

all the imperialists are paper tigers - Mao zedong

[neon sierra]

as you wouldnt allow your dear husband to beat you why would you allow your dear horse to do so

[wild sapphire]

I never heard of that

[manic juniper]

The sheer power contained within a chicken made the horse recall the powerful terror birds

[true lark]

Horses are afraid of their own farts...

[rocky coyote]

horses are good to bet on

[wild sapphire]

Ah poor things

Big and powerful but with tiny brains

They almost cant be blamed

Maybe they lack a sense of proportion

[feral river]

one day we can change their DNA to make them attack every men they see and drop them in our enemy state

[wild sapphire]

Declare the war

Lol where does this stuff come from lol

[true lark]

I mean they can't be blamed literally, doesn't mean that it's okay per se, but just like you can't help but scream if you're scared they can't help bucking and kicking, they will literally apologise when they accidentally make you fall off that way

[wild sapphire]

I see

That makes sense to me

Ah poor things

[true lark]

Which is why yes, horses are dangerous animals, but I still care for them

[wild sapphire]

Ofc

[feral river]

you can make them not dangerous

[wild sapphire]

Again i think this is the case with most animals

[feral river]

thanks to modern technology we are able to change the DNAs

[wild sapphire]

You need to treat them with a healthy sense of respect and reasonable fear

[feral river]

why not get rid of their brain but instead plant a computer parts in it

[wild sapphire]

Cyborg horse

That seems cruel

@neon sierra i saw you ping me

To roti’s post

[feral river]

not so fast we now have the ability to decode something that's coming out from the brain

even we can generate images based on that thanks to AI technology

[wild sapphire]

I dont mind making animals to serve our needs

[feral river]

even human.

[wild sapphire]

But i think there are lines i feel we shouldnt cross

I dont like the idea of tampering with their brain that way after they have been born

[true lark]

Cyborg horse is fine but it defeats the whole point, bonding with an animal

[manic juniper]

We already did that

All domestic animals have been heavily tampered with

[wild sapphire]

What did we do exactly?

[feral river]

well it's hard to expect what would happen in the future, but we will research more on that and one day we will have the ability to do that

[wild sapphire]

I mean, bred to be what they are, i know

[manic juniper]

We artificially selected them and made them completely different than their wild counterparts

[wild sapphire]

But like, after the horse has been born

[feral river]

and as long as the endless money cycle didn't end, we will light on this on the tech tree

[neon sierra]

[wild sapphire]

What would it feel if someone opened up its head and put some machinery inside

What sensations

If discomfort would it be able to express it

If discomfort would people even care

[feral river]

probably just like what the human body does, you can send such signals to their feeling parts to make them feel something

[wild sapphire]

Im american lol

And roti is silly

[neon sierra]

no way

[rocky coyote]

are there famous examples of eugenicism in animals

[wild sapphire]

Yes lol

[neon sierra]

he is american as well

[wild sapphire]

Are you sure?

[neon sierra]

yes

[feral river]

like if I send a singal of the sex, then the electric parts are activiated and you will feel satisfied

[neon sierra]

what did u think he is

[feral river]

sounds pretty strange but it's super easy to achieve

[wild sapphire]

Indian perhaps

[neon sierra]

no lol

hes american

[wild sapphire]

That’s unfortunate

[neon sierra]

he is just acting

[wild sapphire]

Even worse

[neon sierra]

💀

[wild sapphire]

I hate fake

[true lark]

Most likely it would actually not feel bad, but that doesn't mean we should, beyond maybe optic implants

[feral river]

depends whether you have left them a interface to express the discomfort

I don't see that on computers

[shy summit]

Brother for once can you not

[true lark]

Hi Nale

[wild sapphire]

He wouldnt actually do it whether because he doesnt possess the means or because he is joking

I think on the whole he is harmless

[feral river]

or you can get rid of the pain sensation system maybe they will never feel any pain again

even being crashed

[true lark]

What is your opinion on horses @shy summit

[feral river]

this could happen on human and it has few cases which their certain nerve system was disabled and they don't feel pain even something hurt them

[manic juniper]

You don't do that to genetically engineer a species

[rocky coyote]

its the only subject he can sound remotely understandable on. let him be

[feral river]

we hold the full capability to do that

[wild sapphire]

I am describing minecraft’s proposal

[true lark]

That might actually not be too bad of an idea to at least dampen it, recent studies show they experience more pain than nessecary

@shy summit

[wild sapphire]

He is proposing we replace parts or the whole of their brain with computers if i am getting this right

[feral river]

then there's something is missing I guess probably not totally disabled

if you totally disable their sensation system, they will feel nothing

they don't even know what is feeling

we have that capacity to create such situation

[wild sapphire]

I like animals

I think if we kill them it should as painless as possible

If we use them it should be with as much kindness and consideration as can be afforded under the circumstances

[feral river]

remove the DNA that creating sense and pains

lol that was unnecessary tbh

their sense and pain didn't create any troubles for us to farm them

modern factories would handle everything and serve everyone a fried chicken with very low price

[wild sapphire]

I dont think it is possible to fully gage how a horse might feel if you scooped its brain out and replaced it with a computer on some level

Im against this idea i think

[true lark]

Scooping it's brain out is just killing it

[feral river]

and above all of that, this is gonna be used as weapons

[wild sapphire]

I mean, i think he is proposing removing bits and pieces

[feral river]

don't forgot we have such people like me would use everything as weapons

[wild sapphire]

Mama mia

[zenith carbon]

that's so cruel

[wild sapphire]

Welcome

[true lark]

Oh actualy that reminds me

[zenith carbon]

hi

[feral river]

well it's just an idea chill dude

[true lark]

@manic juniper those videos of attacking horses mightve been old warring stock, those types of horses are actually bred to attack instead of run so that would also make sense

[feral river]

somehow I was wondering how is this gonna upgrade our new biological weapons

but these are top secrets even I can't get to know what happens on that

[wild sapphire]

Weirdest conversation i have been in

[true lark]

Horses have actualy been used as weapons in war for a while technically, up until quite recently in fact

[wild sapphire]

I mean from beginning till now

[feral river]

expenses, performance, risk, all of these are unknown questions

[wild sapphire]

Just inexplicable

[feral river]

but I believe we will have that even if we have the capacity to destroy the world

and I think only 2-3 countries has ability to develop that

[true lark]

There are easier ways of destroying the world

No need to involve horses

[feral river]

but who want to end the world, nobody

war is the measure, the goal is to seize profit or taking benefit for nations

nobody goes war for war, but goes war for interest

[true lark]

I would definitely not say nobody goes to war for war

I can think of plenty medieval examples where people warred just to war

[wild sapphire]

Sad

[feral river]

well anyway, we have to plan the war at peace times

it's an endless cycle just like US and Soviets are racing their nuke stocks

[true lark]

No we don't, just pull a France, works just fine

[silent yew]

hi

i have a question

[wild sapphire]

Yes

[true lark]

Go ahead

[wild sapphire]

@feral river

@manic juniper hey?

[silent yew]

i m writting a my first book (fiction one) but getting stuck again and again tearing up the pages and all

what should i do

[wild sapphire]

Keep writing

Or ask us for help why not

@manic juniper you know this lizard, isfrun?

[true lark]

In #📚｜english-questions or #📝｜proofreading though

[wild sapphire]

Womp

[silent yew]

it for me??

[wild sapphire]

I think if he is asking for story ideas here is okay

[true lark]

Yes

[olive fractal]

the lizard of all time

[wild sapphire]

Proofreading and english questions sound grammar related

[true lark]

Nahhhh

[wild sapphire]

We talk about a bunch of gibberish here but not story ideas

Cyborg soldier horses

[olive fractal]

what the actual fuck

these are like

smoko discussions after 15 pints

[wild sapphire]

I had the weirdest discussion ever

I stayed up all night for it

It started off with a debate about the nature of islam

Became something about weaponizing horse flesh with cybernetic implants

[olive fractal]

why horses

[wild sapphire]

Because ofc

[olive fractal]

I'm

I...

idk

[wild sapphire]

Lol

[olive fractal]

have fun ig lmao

[wild sapphire]

Im tired to the point of incoherency

Nothing of any value came from it

[olive fractal]

I'm fucking hung over to the point of incoherency lmao

[wild sapphire]

Oof

Cool car though

[olive fractal]

thanks

it's the Evo 1 Saab 9-3 Viggen 4x4

driven by Per Eklund

[formal pilot]

@lunar crown cars

[feral river]

Researching new weapons could create jobs, achieving advancement on new tech

But we can only go to war to generate values

[zenith carbon]

insane

[lunar crown]

Wat

[lunar crown]

He just mentioned the car on the pfp

R.I.P Saab tho

[formal pilot]

Who's saab

[olive fractal]

Saab is still very much alive

[lunar crown]

Car brand

[olive fractal]

and arms manufacturer

[formal pilot]

Must be german

[olive fractal]

it's a swedish company

SAAB - Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget

[formal pilot]

[olive fractal]

Scania used to be part of the Svenska Aeroplan Group

[lunar crown]

As an aircraft company?

[olive fractal]

Saab Scania unfortunately split in the mid 90s

[olive fractal]

yup

https://www.saab.com/

Scania is also doing pretty well

NEVS (Saab Trollhättan) isn't doing too well though

cars like the NEVS-Saab 9-3 Turbo4 Edition and the NEVS Emily GT have shown us what could've been

well, at least they still make spares and new chassis

[lunar crown]

Because it's EV brand

[olive fractal]

no?

the 9-3 Turbo4 Edition is literally the third gen 9-3

powered by an overhauled B208R

it's a facelifted MY2015 9-3

[lunar crown]

NEVS stands for National Electic Vehicles Sweden wdym

[olive fractal]

that still doesn't make it electric lol

https://a.d-cd.net/75ae5f5s-960.jpg
https://saabblog.net/2017/06/13/saab-9-3-turbo-edition/img_8906/
https://i0.wp.com/saabblog.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/IMG_8899.jpg?fit=1280%2C960&ssl=1

the 9-3 Type YTN was also a regular ICE-powered car

NEVS, ironically, only produced electric prototypes

[lunar crown]

Produced in 2014*

And only 421 unit

[olive fractal]

the Turbo4 Edition was not a MY2015 9-3

MY2015 also meant it was made in 2014

[lunar crown]

NEVS, Ironically, is a Chinese company, not Swedish

[olive fractal]

NEVS is still a stallbäckan company, Evergrand, their parent company, is a real estate/investment company

all that's left of NEVS is a Saab Service Shop in Trollhättan anyway

Saab Original Service and Parts has been a seperate entity for years

[olive fractal]

these are only estimates btw, according to Svenska Saabklubben the actual number is somewhere between 250 and 2000, most of which were sold in the Netherlands

Saab Automobile's late history is very undocumented and convoluted

[true lark]

Because we got to vegetarianism and I talked about how I am against eating horses

[olive fractal]

okay...? lol

how does not eating horses relate to turning them into biomechanical weapons lmfao

[true lark]

Because the minecraft chinese guy exists

[olive fractal]

okay, fair enough

[true lark]

Are they even a guy? Why did I assume that...

[magic olive]

Does existence of dinosaurs puts all of the religious books to a test?

[true lark]

I do believe most of them are challenged by it, yes

I can think of a few that might not be though

[magic olive]

Because the literal interpretation of these religious texts sounds contradictory.

[true lark]

Most of them, yes

I dont know if certain religions like Buddhism contradict it but I'd expect most to