🧠｜serious-chat

[stoic cedar]

You are basically on a suicide mission. May god help you, Amen🤲

Thank me later

You're welcome miss

no I just guided her

she is a fast learner

Now she gonna teach me

nah, those are very private lessons

Extremely

Check your dm

You have no idea what's possible

Nah our lessons are not for free

[abstract hinge]

Hi, my name is Mehdi. I'm looing for a partner who's willing to practice speaking with me. and you're level should be around A2 to B1. If you're interested, fell free to DM me.

[thorny steeple]

Bruh you just said what im going through 😭

I can't socialize 😭

[onyx pond]

Guys, do we say:
"thanks to my previous involvement in societies" or "thanks to my previous involvements in societies"?

like both of them are correct or ?

[upper peak]

This is #🧠｜serious-chat , go to #💭｜general , for general talks..

[onyx pond]

"I am certain that, given my dedicated personality and thanks to my previous involvement in societies,...."

societies means like associations in schools right?

i'm not sure if I should say societies or associations

[upper peak]

Okay then keep going..😆💯

My address is heavenly palace.

Tell them I am yeti yeti paanii gangaii raanii...😆😂✨

[indigo nacelle]

hey

how are you guys

whats going on

what you playing

[thorny steeple]

I thought it was serious chat, it's much funnier than the one for funny chats lol

[viscid coyote]

my ex is from nepal

boy

mera to kat gaya

[thorny steeple]

What a serious chat

[viscid coyote]

lulli

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/spooky-season-skeleton-dance-dancing-skeleton-gif-15410799

[viscid coyote]

so sorry

[rugged canyon]

Serious chat for serious people

[abstract cypress]

Merry Christmarx

I wish for the common ownership of the means of production

[thorny steeple]

Kamu?

[dapper laurel]

She told me

It's the multiverse

I hope not

[thorny steeple]

Truly Mr Italian

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/barbie-ken-ryan-gosling-wink-winking-gif-17416412879173564713

[thorny steeple]

Indian thing?

Indeed

Chatting away and thinking on what to post on YouTube y'know

Wbu man Kasparov

Yep

Truly that's life

Well get your ass off the Internet so something ofc even if it isn't socializing do something Worthy

What language

Ye

How'd you manage to learn it?

That's understand

Shall you tell us the resources you used

Easy peasy if I had an anchor to web development maybe I could have continued learning

Are you Hindu?

Thanks. Did you use any other one?

[void arch]

i was gonna say my Allah make ur hardship easier to overcome but i still do

[thorny steeple]

Interesting

That's going to offend Muslim people y'know

[void arch]

that a very nice generalization to 2b Muslim , and disregarding the most killers, and that are causing genocidal attack are not Muslim

ppl like u should revise themselves

ur just a subject of ur fascist government . u think ur thinking outside the box , ur just full with hate and ignorance

[thorny steeple]

That seems morally wrong think about it deeply

[void arch]

whenever there is a truth there are haters

[thorny steeple]

Well can't you two put that behind in the past!

[void arch]

u should read history and question urself who defend ur country from colonization and costed them a lot

[manic juniper]

Sikhs?

[thorny steeple]

Muslims?

[void arch]

i dont regard the fact that from all the part of India that form the Indian society defend their nation , but for him should not be like this full with hate against his Indian brothers

[thorny steeple]

True I wonder what's with that view of his

[void arch]

just bcz they have diff religion it does not justify his approach that only reflect his mindset and his fascist government

[manic juniper]

He's an edgy kid

[void arch]

watch this to know why https://youtu.be/0JQ_2of4OHQ?si=WsGWjXycHoA_0r8U

[thorny steeple]

Yep got those people on the server

[thorny steeple]

Will later

[void arch]

Indian government is a pro-user of the propaganda that was spread by the Nazis, and Zionism .

[manic juniper]

Why did you highlight government

[void arch]

bcz generalization is the language of Ignorants

[formal pilot]

Indian government is pretty neutral about israel Palestine

[void arch]

are u sure

[formal pilot]

It's some extremist Islamophobic people who support israel only

[formal pilot]

Yuup

[manic juniper]

What about this?

[void arch]

ik but the top leader is one of them and his policies are changing the scale to isreal

[manic juniper]

Deboonked

[void arch]

what does that mean ?

[formal pilot]

Top leader just wants to be in the power, for that he needs to create polarization in country

[manic juniper]

Isn't that a generalisation

[formal pilot]

Otherwise he has good relations with Arab countries

[void arch]

did i say that every athiest is fashion follower

[manic juniper]

You didn't say "some" either

[void arch]

he allow a lot of the use of violence in many cases against Mulims

just watch this https://youtu.be/0JQ_2of4OHQ?si=WsGWjXycHoA_0r8U

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/india-israel-india-isreal-modi-netanyahu-namo-bn-gif-14787143

[formal pilot]

In india? Yes

Otherwise india from start believe in 2 states solution

[void arch]

i didnt say that sentence either , bcz i only said atheism become like a fashion who ever wished want to be atheist like he is a smart ,outside box thinker

[manic juniper]

What about those countries where atheism is the norm?

Are religious people smartasses there?

[dapper laurel]

They just want to be different in mass 🤷🏼

[thorny steeple]

Interesting question isn't France atheist

[manic juniper]

"And when everyone is different... No one will be"

[manic juniper]

I can only think of China, maybe Japan and the two Koreas, and definitely Czechia and Estonia

[formal pilot]

https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/india-votes-in-favor-of-unga-resolution-on-palestine-calling-for-an-end-to-israeli-occupation/article68945379.ece

[manic juniper]

The ungabunga resolution

[dapper laurel]

I was about to write the same thing

[thorny steeple]

True same here

[formal pilot]

Lmao i nearly chocked myself

[thorny steeple]

LMAO

[void arch]

in which place was atheism is the norm , atheism can be a result of socialization .. there is not such a evidence for that but rather there many studies against that idea

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/rango-hat-tip-tip-hat-tip-of-the-hat-cartoon-gif-26464084

[manic juniper]

There is no evidence of atheism being the norm? What

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/understandable-have-nice-day-have-a-great-day-have-a-good-day-nice-gif-20850110

[dapper laurel]

Why can't we always respond with this when someone tries to argue with us?

It would solve many problems

[void arch]

being religious or not has nothing to do with scientific achievements, the first is a work for the hearafter and the second is for this life

[manic juniper]

What are you waffling about, that wasn't even the question

Can you stick to the topic for once

[void arch]

i m only using ur analogy

[manic juniper]

I didn't make any analogy, I literally asked a question

[void arch]

i responded

[manic juniper]

No you didn't, that wasn't even the question. That's like talking about Cyberpunk 2077 to the waiter instead of telling your order

[void arch]

u could emphasize that question instead

[formal pilot]

[void arch]

https://youtu.be/LW_4cg-UxpY?si=hekMLAPLviBaHiDV this poem is beautiful

[rugged canyon]

[dapper laurel]

Bro tries to have a beef with Christians even on the Christmas day

They will never change

[thorny steeple]

Wait for Ramadan...

I will have my turn

[dapper laurel]

God teaches us not to be vindictive

And to be merciful, so let it pass, the truth does not need to be questioned by random people online

[void arch]

there is difference between interaction between ppl of that kind and discussing major creeds

if someone love good for u , consequently he ll talk to u that way in that poem , but much ppl are for the truth hating even if it is good for them

[shy summit]

All religious practices are a matter of social conditioning.

[void arch]

like the prophet said SAW

[formal pilot]

[shy summit]

The prophet, based on observation, was one of many scam artists.

[void arch]

On the authority of Abu Hurairah, may God be pleased with him, he said: The Messenger of God, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, said: “ No child is born except according to his natural disposition, and his parents make him a Jew, a Christian, or a Muslim, so it is as if an animal gives birth healthy. Do you find any defect in it? » Then Abu Hurairah recited this verse: {The nature of God according to which He created the people} [Al-Rum: 30].

Children are born believers not of Christianity, Islam or any other theology but of what I call “natural religion”. They have strong natural tendencies toward religion, but these tendencies do not inevitably propel them towards any one religious belief..
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21328562-000-the-god-issue-we-are-all-born-believers/

[void arch]

there is present miracles which are the Quran and the teaching of the prophet SAW . investigate them neutrally and decides if does it fit ur pre-mindset or not

[shy summit]

Why don’t you demonstrate evidence of one of these miracles.

And don’t give me a Quranic quote you tie to modern science.

That’s a post hoc ad hoc rationalization fallacy.

[void arch]

i just advise to read urself

[shy summit]

You said it exists. Put your money where your mouth is.

[void arch]

read urself if u seek the truth , im not here to convince u , bcz ur coming with premise that there no truth from wrong so any evidence i would present u ll reject it .

[shy summit]

You literally are here arguing the contrary.

You are literally arguing a point then saying “trust me bro, go find the evidence,” after claiming said evidence exists.

Perhaps it would behoove you to know I make a point to study this general issue in particular.

If the evidence existed, irrefutably and with acceptable levels of confidence, I all but guarantee that I would have at least heard about it, if not have stumbled across it myself.

I am not exactly a naive, ignorant fool. I am at least readily informed on the subject.

[thorny steeple]

Andos, based off my pfp, could I pass as a local in any part of Italy?

[dapper laurel]

You could pass as a local of both southern and northern Italy based on that pfp

Italians don't have a specific look, you can find the ultra blond ones in the south as well as the olive ones in the north

And viceversa

[thorny steeple]

lol, who created u?, god? who died for ur sins ? god ahahhahahahaha. how can god die, and why would he die for the sins of his own creation!!!!!!!!!!, and if he died for the sins of his own creation and we are all going to heaven then why should we become christian, everyone is going to heaven anyway right?

[void arch]

hhahah i dont understand??

[thorny steeple]

christians logic is wild

[thorny steeple]

love it❤️

[void arch]

if God die for our sins why he accept repentance if we ask it .. what the reason of dieing for our sins then

[void arch]

yeah , Arabic poems hit different

[thorny steeple]

indeed فهذا بدايته وهذا منتهاه

[thorny steeple]

Can't you see a pattern in any region?

[dapper laurel]

What do you mean?

[thorny steeple]

If it's possible to look at a person and think whether they're Southern or Northern

[dapper laurel]

Well, in general I would say that the lighter ones are from the north, based on Celtic and Germanic influences, while the olive ones or those with slightly darker tones are from the south, due to greek and levantine genetics

But, really, it may be inaccurate

[thorny steeple]

Yeah right I knew about that.
But what you stated before seemed a little bit confusing

[dapper laurel]

It must be confusing, Italians don't have a specific look in general

But, based on some genetic history, we can create some parameters to establish what is the general look by region

It may vary a bit, but in Italy, since everyone is ethnically Italian (excluding south tyrol and immigrants) in the end it changes little

[torpid dirge]

What's ur specific definition of god ? Btw I wanna know ?

[torpid dirge]

U think god as a human and that have eternity existence? Who died with his creation sins?

[torpid dirge]

That's not a wild logic at all it's just illogical and doesn't Make sense argue when u have no idea that what does mean by God ? So u think that have logic ?

[manic juniper]

Osiris...? He died and he was resurrected

[torpid dirge]

Egyptian god ?

[shy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-osiris-funny-gif-22838278

[manic juniper]

Egyptian, Roman, Libyan, Greek...

[torpid dirge]

He's associated with fertility and agriculture and his also called as pharaoh, but recurrence? Its Just mythical concept

[manic juniper]

https://www.livescience.com/animals/birds/aldabra-rail-the-bird-that-came-back-from-the-dead-by-evolving-twice
Are you sure about that

[feral river]

well religious practice are the integral part of enforcing the religious rules

in the ancient era, one religious event or practice for a country is even a main way to proof its legitmacy

at that time everyone is scrambling the right of interpretation of the religious context, as part of their source of legitmacy

now it's completely outdated, instead we have more efficient ideologies such as nationalism etc. to mobilize people and establish the state

[quasi needle]

@sullen epoch leave it to khonshu

[formal pilot]

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/dec/20/blob-headed-fish-and-amphibious-mouse-among-27-new-species-found-in-thrilling-peru-expedition

We got amphibian mammal, 2024 is wild

[thorny steeple]

Truly

[shy summit]

New patch just dropped.

[feral river]

I guess that would contain a lot of nutrients we need

and would be delicious

[languid flicker]

AGREED

[balmy folio]

Allama Iqbal is one of the poet I ever read

[balmy folio]

I didn't understood

so

then

[static pivot]

@thorny steeple no racism

No Islamophobia

[tulip flicker]

that's straight up racism

[prisma pike]

Shut up kid

[upper peak]

That's why I don't like him and don't see as a moderator.

He says he is owner of this channel.

[static pivot]

This is what your dear friend said

If you say it's ok

I'll allow him to say that

Is it ok?

[upper peak]

Am I talking about them ?
It's about you , you only , being a moderator , show the professionalism and be courteous.
Your language shows you , being a moderator..

[static pivot]

That I don't really care

and i don't need you to teach me that

Your friend was being stupid

and he had his warning

[upper peak]

Lol
I am not teaching you ,
They are not my friends , they are random .
Yeah you can warn them , etc .
It's a chat policy I understand.

[static pivot]

Nice

Focus on your business

Don't support racism

and don't be a parrot

[thorny steeple]

absolute being above all, he created the universe, me and u

[thorny steeple]

bro what are u even saying

[thorny steeple]

ya we need a christian to explain the core of christianity the trinity

[prisma pike]

Well he is

[upper peak]

Ah , Okay..

[stoic cedar]

Hoi

[thorny steeple]

oi oi

[stoic cedar]

How is it going habibi?

[thorny steeple]

great wbu habibti

[stoic cedar]

Alhamdulillah

[thorny steeple]

alhamdulilah

[stoic cedar]

Do you pray?

[thorny steeple]

ya why?

[stoic cedar]

just asking, if you do or not

if not you should start

[thorny steeple]

i do alhamdulillah

[stoic cedar]

MashaAllah

[thorny steeple]

Do u pray?

[stoic cedar]

Yes I do

[thorny steeple]

MashaAllah

[balmy folio]

Where are you from?

[stoic cedar]

What do you think?

[thorny steeple]

bro teach me python plz

[balmy folio]

Afghan

[stoic cedar]

You can learn on youtube for free

[stoic cedar]

Nah

[balmy folio]

correct

[stoic cedar]

Closer to afghanistan

[balmy folio]

kindly

reveal

[stoic cedar]

Pardon me but for what?

[thorny steeple]

bro i don't understand python functions

[stoic cedar]

If you want one on one lessons ping me

[thorny steeple]

he is interested in u

[stoic cedar]

No its Haram

[thorny steeple]

what's your major?

[stoic cedar]

IT

[thorny steeple]

ya tell him that

[thorny steeple]

noice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stoic cedar]

And you my brother?

[thorny steeple]

yes?

https://tenor.com/view/concert-crowd-dino-dinosaur-dinosaur-concert-gif-7302459712020757639

[stoic cedar]

What are you interested in?

[thorny steeple]

oh my major u mean

am a civil engineer trying to learn python

[stoic cedar]

Why you took civil if you have interest in python

[thorny steeple]

i like civil engineering but python is also essential

@viscid ferry If everything fades into nothingness, does the act of existence itself leave an imprint on reality, or is it as if it never was?

[viscid ferry]

it does leave but not forever

Basically the thing is what we do does not last forever.

[viscid ferry]

Just think of histories greatest in whichever field and whatever. Where is it all now? Dust, smoke,legend or not even a legend. Think of all the examples and see how trivial things we passionately want are.

[thorny steeple]

If whats left is not forever, does it truly matter that it existed at all?

[thorny steeple]

If what’s left doesn’t last forever then how can we really say it ever mattered? I mean if time’s just going to wipe it all away, does anything that fades really mean anything or is it just something we tell ourselves to feel like we’re leaving a mark?

[viscid ferry]

Well talking about what if it you then for your family it does. but for shorter period of time. After some time it doesnt. Cause we are not even a bacteria to the universe. Universe is a really big place and it has been for years even if you study all practical science for some purposes you will realize we are nothing

basically what i want to say is just live life how you want to live and not set our desire on so many things or trying to control things beyond our reach.

[viscid ferry]

things matter but only for a period of time. then its all gone.

[thorny steeple]

This statement makes sense

[viscid ferry]

yeah so basic idea is that live life without taking things seriously.

[thorny steeple]

Hmm but If we live like nothing matters then how do we explain all the things we do care about? Relationships, passions, experiences they fade too, but that doesn’t make them any less meaningful in the moment. If we don’t take life seriously aren’t we just robbing ourselves of the chance to truly experience it even with its fleeting nature?

[viscid ferry]

Not taking things seriously doesn't mean being casual or living life aimlessly. It means not letting external factors, such as others' opinions, material possessions, fears, or anxieties, control or overwhelm you. Using this principle as a validation for indifference or inactivity is misleading; instead, it should empower you to focus on what truly matters without being consumed by what you cannot control

[hasty junco]

Hi Annabelle

[languid flicker]

whoa

[viscid ferry]

hello sir

[languid flicker]

@viscid ferry nun>

[viscid ferry]

hello

[fleet dragon]

Hello guys, im currently practicing my writing with Chatgpt and i asked it for an exercise. Basically, I had to make a letter to the costumer department of an airline company complaining about the problems I had with my last flight. I would like to get a feedback and a recommendation for the areas where I can improve. Here is my letter:
Dear customer service team: Im writing this letter to put in manifest my insatisfaction towards the service given by the company. On my recent trip, the flight had a significative delay which made me have serious issues related to my work because I was supossed to meet with some clients at a specific time in Rome, damaging in the process my image as a professional. I would like a compensation by the company for all the issues I had related not just because of the delay but for the problems I had because of it. As to my flight number, it was 423. If I have to give any further detail, let me know.

[thorny steeple]

Quo usque tandem abutere, Catilina, patientia nostra @dapper laurel

[lilac slate]

Hey

[willow pewter]

Hello

[cursive junco]

Helloooo

[thorny steeple]

Hello

[willow pewter]

Hru

[topaz adder]

hey could anyone review my personal essay??? You could just read it and tell me what you think

[cedar cobalt]

Go ahead

[tough gull]

#📝｜proofreading

[sweet wadi]

hellooo

[cedar cobalt]

hey

[void arch]

''hello'' is said in other text channels ,here jump straightforward to the topic

[lunar ivy]

List of guys conquered by Chinese girls +1

[cedar cobalt]

Like the idea

[void arch]

im just joking ,feel free to say anything .

[lime jolt]

I’m too pregnant for this chat.

[thorny steeple]

I wanna get pregnant tdy🙂

[balmy matrix]

Why not tomorrow

[thorny steeple]

Can't wait for tmrw

[balmy matrix]

sad

[stiff rose]

https://tenor.com/view/ew-brotha-eww-meme-eww-eww-gif-gif-1452572770363109714

the fck is going on here

[tulip flicker]

chaos

[stiff rose]

people wanting to get pregnant and stuff,this is too much for my mental health to handle

[tulip flicker]

then don't

[cedar cobalt]

My dear friends

I propose a stimulating topic for discussion

What do you think about Laplace's Demon thought experiment?

If such a demon existed, would things happen in the same way as Laplace described?

Yeah I know that
Maybe I expressed myself badly. What I meant was do you think that a copy and paste of the original conditions would lead to the same conclusion? The implication is, do you believe in hazard?

[torpid dirge]

I think u should have see these scientific concept and reason behind all of this , and it has to do NTG with Pharaoh.
https://www.iasgyan.in/daily-current-affairs/aldabra-rail#:~:text=Fossil evidence suggests that there,white-throated rail recolonized it.

[torpid dirge]

I asked specific defination not his creation and somthing else ?

[thorny steeple]

Huh

U dumb or what

[cedar cobalt]

What's the subject? 👀

[torpid dirge]

Don't know ?

[thorny steeple]

Read my answer again bro

[cedar cobalt]

[torpid dirge]

It's not answer ur just saying usual things, I'm asking about what does mean by God ?

[torpid dirge]

Defination of god ?

[thorny steeple]

Aghh

[cedar cobalt]

What's yours?

[thorny steeple]

Oki I don't know u tell me

Bros thinking hard lmfao 😂

[manic juniper]

Why would it have to do with Pharaohs? I simply showed an example of resurrection in real life

[thorny steeple]

Bro left the chat lol

Am out hahah

[torpid dirge]

First of all u should've explain this to me eloborately, and after that I will tell u what does mean by god what's exactly mean

[cedar cobalt]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning

[torpid dirge]

Who died ur sins ?

[thorny steeple]

Lmao exactly 😂

[torpid dirge]

I'm not just like u bro,who haven't fectual evidence to prove somthing

[torpid dirge]

@thorny steeple

[thorny steeple]

Ya indeed you're smart bro

[manic juniper]

The coelacanth

[thorny steeple]

Absolute being?

[torpid dirge]

Just eloborate dude what did u mean by that statement?

[thorny steeple]

Nvm bro

Me wrong u right

[torpid dirge]

I think u didn't understand my msg I said these r all scientific revolution behind all of this resurrection

[thorny steeple]

So god is god?

[manic juniper]

Yes, resurrection is scientific, I don't know where I stated the opposite

[thorny steeple]

Why is it taking everyone so much time to type? 😭

[torpid dirge]

No no dude I waana know what are u up to ?

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/coelacanth-living-fossil-gif-26621112

[thorny steeple]

Nah nothing at all just ignore me

[thorny steeple]

Looks delicious

[cedar cobalt]

Laplace's demon supports a deterministic thesis. (There is no hazard). For this thought experiment to give us different results, we would have to support a non-deterministic thesis. (There is hazard)

[manic juniper]

It has an horrible taste

[thorny steeple]

Meat is meat it's always delicious

[manic juniper]

You probably never tried more than two types in your life

[torpid dirge]

So u accept that Egyptian god resurrection have just mythical concept not real ?

[manic juniper]

You're saying that Osiris's resurrection wasn't real, but a bird's and a fish's is? Why the double standards

[torpid dirge]

Where r u from buddy? Btw

[thorny steeple]

Really?Chicken, mutton, beef, fish(different kinds of fish), goat meat, camel meatm. I tried all of them

[manic juniper]

I don't see kangaroo in the list

[thorny steeple]

All Muslim countries around the world

[thorny steeple]

I don't live in Australia so..

But insha'Allah I'll try kangaroo

[manic juniper]

There are kangaroos in Indonesia, a Muslim majority country

[thorny steeple]

Lol I didn't know that, I was there last year 😂

[thorny steeple]

Why did u assume I tried only two kinds anyway, I don't think there's anyone who tried only two kinds of meat in their life

Who caused the universe 🤯

[torpid dirge]

I think there's is confusion point, im saying that Egyptian god resurrection absolutely is real thing but not like superstition strategy as like these bird and fishes reevolution ( scientific revolution) .

[thorny steeple]

Are u Indian bro

[torpid dirge]

Yup

[manic juniper]

He was resurrected by his wife Isis

[thorny steeple]

What religion do u follow

[manic juniper]

These animals resurrected because they are spiritually powerful unlike mammals

[thorny steeple]

What's the topic lol

Alhamdulilah bro

[manic juniper]

If resurrection is real

[thorny steeple]

Oh, just die and see for yourself 🙈

[manic juniper]

I'm a mammal, mammals can't resurrect

[cedar cobalt]

Some people say God, but from an atheistic point of view, we don't know. Most people don't like this answer, because it's an admission of ignorance. But just because we don't know the origin, it doesn't mean that the scientific knowledge we've acquired so far is not valid.

[thorny steeple]

Lmfao how do u know🤣

[manic juniper]

Because there is no proof of mammals being resurrected

And they are spiritually weak

[thorny steeple]

Alr bye

[manic juniper]

Maybe it simply existed there

[cedar cobalt]

The absence of matter, of substance

[torpid dirge]

But which Devine power his sister used u thought they're real? Like bring back someone to death' through control his legs resurrected?

[cedar cobalt]

Maybe, there are so many ways to look at the concept after all

[thorny steeple]

But still death is coming, so you gotta figure that out soon bro

[cedar cobalt]

How is the absence of something a thing?

[manic juniper]

She pieced him back together and used ancient Egyptian magic rituals to breathe life back to him and restore his soul in his body

Likely some lost form of dark energy

[cedar cobalt]

Maybe or maybe not, death is the absence of consciousness, we will probably not realize anything

[manic juniper]

No reasons to fear death as a mammal, there is nothing for us on the other side

[thorny steeple]

Ya but where would your conscious (spirit) go

[cedar cobalt]

This is Epicurus' thesis.

[thorny steeple]

If u can't answer that for sure then you have to prepare for it

[manic juniper]

Did he also think that reptiles' powerful souls can escape their dead bodies?

[manic juniper]

Those are just chemicals that reside within your brain

In fact you can lose parts of it through brain damage

[cedar cobalt]

I understand your point, but that's not really how it works. Black is not black, it is the absence of refraction of light. It is our conceptualization that creates this dualization which physically has no place to be.

[manic juniper]

Something happened to the Mayans thousands of years ago, they were driven to collective insanity

[cedar cobalt]

I'm not sure about that 😂

[manic juniper]

The souls of the deceased dinosaurs in Central America interfered with their mortal bodies and drove them all to insanity

This is why they started believing and praying to Kukulkan the Feathered Snake, predicting that reptiles can indeed have feathers (or used to)

[thorny steeple]

Consciousness is a chemical or what?

What are u sayin

[manic juniper]

Yes, all of our experiences, decisions, memories, personality, behaviours are all within our body, most of them in the brain

So if you destroy someone's body you can get rid of them. Or if they die

[cedar cobalt]

It depends on your very conception of consciousness. It varies across cultures. There's a purely atheistic and pragmatic point of views who says there's no spirit at all. But if we consider a soul, it can translate into several beliefs about its journey to heaven, hell, or reincarnation.

[torpid dirge]

Ik but this is all mythical concept that r just r hypothetical, and that's why osiris is has symbolic representation to rebirth and reevolution, they're just mythical framework which didn't make sense

[torpid dirge]

That's my exactly point @manic juniper

[cedar cobalt]

Of course it's more complicated, we try to popularize concepts. So we will not base ourselves on the most recent physical or scientific knowledge but on perfect and philosophical ideas for establish thought experiments more easily.

1-Prove that God exists

Honestly, we both can't
That's not the point

[torpid dirge]

These theory r completely non understandable

[cedar cobalt]

But are we talking about that theme specific since the very beginning? Or are you trying to drift towards definitions that interest you for the debate?

[manic juniper]

Can you prove unicorns don't exist?

Scotland has a unicorn as national animal

Meanwhile no country has god as national animal

[manic juniper]

I'm sure that since the Egyptians are from Africa they were aware of the coelacanth's existence, thus of its resurrection lore. That is how they found out that Osiris also came back to life through dark energy

[cedar cobalt]

You've touched on an important point, we call that Russell's teapot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot

[manic juniper]

Yes I know that one, I'm a Teapotist

[torpid dirge]

Have u ever read book "the osiris myth "

[manic juniper]

No

There is also another account of resurrection from ancient Dacia, the Greeks thought that the Dacians worshipped a being named Zalmoxis, and that he was resurrected multiple times

[cedar cobalt]

Do you talk about Pascal's wager?

[manic juniper]

The bear's colour is eumelanin

[cedar cobalt]

It's quite simple, just imagine a world without God. Try doing this thought experiment where everything is governed by fixed laws, and everything is predictable, like a video game.

[manic juniper]

There can be no other answer

[cedar cobalt]

What does this have to do with probability?

[manic juniper]

To be fair you can imagine a world governed by inconsistent laws but still without god

If the developer is responsible for everything that exists then he created evil on purpose

[cedar cobalt]

Yes, that's possible too, but in this case we're trying to apply that to our world

[manic juniper]

I guess this developer has biological needs just like an animal

[cedar cobalt]

Honestly I already answered you, we do not know and accept not having the answer. That is why I prefer to adopt an agnostic point of view, despite the fact that I recognize the scientifics laws

[manic juniper]

Most people would like a world with fixed laws and a god, but we can't be sure of either of these being the case. So for the sake of our universe maybe we both lack deities and also have unfixed laws

No, puffins don't know the coelacanth

I already explained it

There is no other answer if you studied zoology and taxonomy

I've heard that Assad is an ophthalmologist, pay him a visit

I already solved it, boooring

Maybe you didn't expect a simple answer

[cedar cobalt]

Indeed, that's exactly it. Human needs to build a system of meaning for himself in order to give meaning to his own existence

[manic juniper]

Because all bears have the same colour pigment

From the polar bear to the black bear

Just do yourself a favour and study zoology

So I was right

lol sore loser

Polar bears only have eumelanin and they are white

[thorny steeple]

[manic juniper]

Pheomelanin ftw

[cedar cobalt]

Real

[thorny steeple]

I'm just watching and having fun 😂

[manic juniper]

@dapper laurel

[cedar cobalt]

I understand you x)

[manic juniper]

Melanin then

[thorny steeple]

Are u that girl with different personalities?

[manic juniper]

There is no mammal without melanin

[thorny steeple]

I concur!!

[cedar cobalt]

Maybe, who knows x)

[thorny steeple]

White 🐻‍❄️🤍

Ez

[thorny steeple]

Oh nvm it's not u then

Because he fell from a high place and that could only happen in North or south pole

So the bear is White 🐻‍❄️🤍

Am smart innit

You'll see me here frequently from now on I like this type of questions

[cedar cobalt]

Who is it, I absolutely have to talk to her!

[thorny steeple]

Nah she only told me about it

[cedar cobalt]

I see, too bad 😞

[thorny steeple]

Ya maybe you'll meet her by coincidence, I'll give u a hint; she has a profile similar to yours

[torpid dirge]

What does exactly that explanation mean ?

[cedar cobalt]

And she has excellent taste too

[thorny steeple]

But you didn't talk about the distance

[cedar cobalt]

Waw

You had to look for it eh

[thorny steeple]

Ya how old are you, if I may ask?

[thorny steeple]

Still he didn't cover the main point on his explanation, which is the distance of the fall

[cedar cobalt]

Perhaps through a tube that passes through the core of the earth

[thorny steeple]

Nah it's the main thing bruv 😭

[manic juniper]

Poles are Europeans, nothing to do with North and South

[thorny steeple]

Oh in Arabic 4,9 is 4.9 so that's why I was confused

But ya 4000 is a large distance to travel in only 1 sec

[manic juniper]

That's not even correct, Kodiak bears also live in the North Pole

🤣

[thorny steeple]

🤣

Kodiak bear classical joke 🤣😂

[manic juniper]

I hope a Kodiak bear raids your home and teaches you something about geographical distribution

[thorny steeple]

Indeed I did 😁

[thorny steeple]

Lol a Kodiak bear wouldn't come near me cuz I'll fk him up 🤣

https://tenor.com/view/claynosaurz-clayno-reaction-3d-dinosaur-gif-13989544172641822372

[manic juniper]

You don't even know your bears, average mammal

[thorny steeple]

Wonder how Kodiak bear's meat tastes like

Alr send it bro

[dapper laurel]

Lol, average southern Italian

[dapper laurel]

I feel I have this Punjabi blood in my venis

[thorny steeple]

We fill the container with three liters once and then pour it on the 5 liters and then we fill it again and we pour it on the 5 liters so now we have 1 liter on the 3 liters container and 5 on the 5 liters container, then we drop the 5 back on the container and we fill it with the one litre that's on the three and then we fill the three again and finally we pour it to the 5

[shrewd scaffold]

Hii ppl

[thorny steeple]

And finally we have 4 liters on the 5 liters container

[young notch]

Hii guys, I want to practice english playing minecraft, talking in the game can helping the speaking and listening, who wants?
we can create a world and to play, the purpose is learn english playing
Doing what we like, we learn more

[cedar cobalt]

That's a serious question

[thorny steeple]

Indeed we always win bro 💪💪😂

[torpid dirge]

Simple as that polor 🐨

[jaunty flint]

Really?? But why?

[torpid dirge]

3* I'm also muslim

[lunar ivy]

Im atheist

[quasi needle]

odd thing to say

when one picks and chooses

[manic juniper]

Muslims don't even know that Kodiak bears exist

[formal pilot]

[thorny steeple]

Lmfao I wanna taste that Kodiak bear 🐻

[restive seal]

How can this be? You people get a bit serious

[thorny steeple]

How's that related to muslims

[feral river]

that definitely won't help your case by praying

and btw how does that even make sense if you think logic weren't able to solve a logical problem ?

like a puzzle

the world won't be like this if everyone knows they will receive 1000 USD everytime they pray for some stupid shit

and guess why we don't have that much people around there ? because they are dead, by natural selection

[lethal sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUXl6x5Qwro

[feral river]

@manic juniper @dapper laurel here we go again

I never see this situation in Korea

[dapper laurel]

Anyway the second one is a nice car

But are they all electric?

Shit man, I'm in southern Italy and all the cars are blowing black smoke from their mufflers

[feral river]

almost

some of those are not but since they are not driving electric cars they are not qualified to apply for subsidies on charging and insurances

in here once you choose to drive an electric car instead of traditional one, you are applicable to receive subsidies on charging and insurance from the government

[feral river]

nice car is everywhere lol

we are the second richest country in the world

[dapper laurel]

How much does a good car cost there?

[dapper laurel]

the EU should do the same thing

Lately we're facing a crisis in the automotive sector, because Chinese cars are less expensive for the European standards

[feral river]

depends

the cheapest second hand for individual won't cost you more than 300 USD

but who will drive that shit

for regular one, most of us choose the price of a car based on the average of 10000-20000 USD

[dire wing]

hi

[thorny steeple]

Hello

[misty shard]

hello

Have you guys heard about the Azerbaijan airlines flight crash ?

[thorny steeple]

Omnis mundus regere vult.

[unique light]

Did the Russians shoot down the airplane or was it a bird strike? It seems like there was a Russian air defense system involved

@prisma cipher Have you heard about this crash?

[thorny steeple]

Not ney, but I have wbu iseal

[thorny steeple]

Is Lorencini a common surname in Italy @dapper laurel

[manic juniper]

Scroll up

[manic juniper]

It'd be something like Lorenzini

[manic juniper]

Laws, more like guidelines amirite

[thorny steeple]

@manic juniper most common finnish surname

[manic juniper]

Korhonen

[thorny steeple]

Swedish or finnish origins?

[manic juniper]

Finnish

[thorny steeple]

Since korhonen is the finnish common what's the swedish common

[manic juniper]

The most common Swedish surnames in Finland have to be Johansson or Lindstrom

[thorny steeple]

So germanic in nature eh

[odd compass]

What the sigma

[formal pilot]

Apparently strongest type of covalent bond

[odd compass]

????

[thorny steeple]

?def sigma

[cursive bobcat]

Word: sigma

Definition (noun): the 18th letter of the Greek alphabet

Definition requested by receivedtacticalgaming

[odd compass]

John

[dapper laurel]

I've never heard of it, but do you want to become a larper?

[odd compass]

You have the golden keyboard

You
Must know what sigma is

[thorny steeple]

Fiat

[thorny steeple]

A vowel in Greek and a letter

[thorny steeple]

Most common Italian names

[odd compass]

Me🫱🏻‍🫲🏿you

[thorny steeple]

Hell yeah bro

[dapper laurel]

Do you want to know what they are?

Like Mario, Leonardo, Giovanni, Mattia, Matteo, Luca etc.

[thorny steeple]

Ding famous in America no idea about origins and meanings

[rose eagle]

What do people here think about "color revolution"?

Arab Spring?

[thorny steeple]

No, it's just that I saw a guy who has this surname. It's probably Italian but the spelling might have been altered due to hystorical factors

I larp as Roman 🫒🦅Portugal is Rome, and so is Brazil

[thorny steeple]

Italians faced persecution during wwII because our government decided to support the allies. So did the Germans and the Japanese. Due to that, many people lost their surnames. Not to mention that most Italians to whom we granted lands and subsides in the 19th century were illiterate

[normal temple]

hi

[last acorn]

One more msg like that and your full album's gonna spread all over the server

[dapper laurel]

At least Argentina treated them "well"

I am not proud of Italian immigration to South America, they could have stayed here, but they preferred profit. South American countries have always tried to encourage European immigration, and they actually succeed

[thorny steeple]

There were even some projects that promoted racial ideas of purity, some of them came here because of this

Argentina had a lot of black people in the XIX, but they were killed due to eugenics, wars and illnesses

[thorny steeple]

Do you think it would avoid the current birth rate problem?

[dapper laurel]

For Italy the only simple and immediate solution to solve the birth rate problem would be to temporarily abolish the condom, but I don't think this can be done in a country like ours

We are currently granting citizenship to several South American people who have Italian ancestors to encourage them to return to Italy, but, as you can see, this plan is a total failure. They simply get the citizenship to easily emigrate in other areas of the EU, like Germany or France

And, honestly, in this country there are people who deserve citizenship more than them. Some immigrants work regularly, pay taxes and live here all their lives, but they cannot obtain citizenship for reasons, then those south American peasants come here and claim the citizenship for some random Italian ancestor they had, and they actually get it

[thorny steeple]

Bro haven't heard about Amazon

[dapper laurel]

As always, those people only want profits, like their ancestors did

[frozen cape]

What's the current birth rate?

[thorny steeple]

Imagine ordering condoms from overseas 😂

[dapper laurel]

One of the lowest in the world, in Italy

I don't know exactly

[dapper laurel]

In such a scenario it would be against the law, if you get caught then you will have to face the law

Or another solution would be to make it mandatory to have three children

But it would be even more difficult to implement

[thorny steeple]

You can't control people's choice to have kids, abolishing condoms will never make people make more kids, because ppl will always find a way to make the woman not get pregnant, either by buying condoms illegally or by buying pills that make women not get pregnant, but rather you can encourage them to have kids, by giving money to newlyweds for each kid they have, just like what's happening in Japan right now(though am not really sure if it's Japan or another Asian country but anyway you got the idea)

[dapper laurel]

We tried it in Italy and it just doesn't work

And for a country that has a frightening public debt these welfare measures only damage the economy

[tall hollow]

Hi

[thorny steeple]

How much did the government pay? Maybe the money isn't provacative enough

[dapper laurel]

The government pays what it can

However, these measures also work partially in other countries, they're almost completely ineffective

[thorny steeple]

White people problems fr

[dapper laurel]

On the other hand, if it continues like this the economy will collapse and it will be a less developed one, that will push people to have more children

[dapper laurel]

It's a problem of developed countries, not white people

In Bangladesh too, the birth rate is slightly declining as the economy develops

In turkey too

Even the Chinese have these problems

Generally speaking, the less developed an economy is, the more children are born

[thorny steeple]

Nah the root of the problem is obvious man, you want to preserve your race and don't want to mix with the other lowly class, and it's okay to some extent but some people lived in Italy their whole life and they can speak Italian just like the Italians but still they won't get the passport just cuz of their race...

[dapper laurel]

For example, in less developed economies, the focus is on the agricultural sector; in order to increase their income, families have more children to send to the fields

[dapper laurel]

Wtf, again with these things?

An immigrant can get citizenship here by marrying an Italian, so maybe it's the other way around lol

I don't understand why people think that white people still have a segregationist mentality

[thorny steeple]

Omg really? Gotta find an Italian chick then...

[dapper laurel]

I don't know if this is convenient for you with the new neo-fascist government

[thorny steeple]

Cuz you do bro why don't they give the nationality to the people who lived there their whole life and can actually speak Italian, but some random guy who has an Italian grandpa comes to Italy and gets a nationality and he can't even speak the language

[dapper laurel]

We have government officials that were affiliated with pagan and esoteric groups lol

[dapper laurel]

In reality, it would be enough to live here for 18/20 years to obtain citizenship as an immigrant

However, I agree that South American people with Italian origins should not obtain citizenship by living only a few months in Italy

Because most of them don't look or even are Italian, it's certainly not a distant great-grandfather that determines your belonging to a country

Milei has Italian citizenship and he isn't 100% of Italian origins, this is just delusional

[feral river]

we don't even offer the citizenship for Chinese who's holding the foreign nationality

and we neither recognize the double citizenships, which means once you've applied for another citizenship if you are a chinese citizen, you will automatically lose your Chinese citizenship

and if you don't have any direct relatives in China it's almost impossible for you to apply Chinese citizenship again

[manic juniper]

Lorenzini is an actual Italian surname, for example the Italian researcher Stefano Lorenzini that expanded our knowledge on the ampullae of Lorenzini

[feral river]

same things if they discovered you are holding the double citizenship which is illegal

still have no idea why you guys are that damn open for immigrants

[frozen cape]

meanwhile people with multiple citizenships

[feral river]

even they signed the paper that they won't mess around in your place, you still take risks of their presence

and they may influence your society and even state

[frozen cape]

some countries don't have the luxury of having millions of citizens who can fill in jobs

[manic juniper]

Because nationality isn't simply granted to people that lived there...? What if they don't want citizenship? If you fulfill all requirements you can simply make a request and it'll be granted

There are countries that take away your citizenship if you get a second one. Imagine if you move abroad and receive a foreign citizenship without your permission, thus losing your previous one

[feral river]

why they are still struggling for themselves rather than being annexed by another superpower ?

[dapper laurel]

I didn't know him, thanks for the information

[frozen cape]

I didn't say that they're struggling

[feral river]

I never know if that's a solution to let people come into your country, that's extremely dangrous and vulnerable against foreign influence

[manic juniper]

The ampullae of Lorenzini are the scariest organ ever developed by an animal

[feral river]

based on the perspective of the national security

that's why we got huge number of police personnels, cameras, mass survellance covered almost everywhere to monitor their every moves and recognize their identity, and enforce our immigration laws

which is exactly what Donald Trump likely to do with America

[dapper laurel]

It's cool though, imagine being able to locate your prey by sensing its electromagnetic field

Or something, I really need to read more about this

[feral river]

there's no, not even one refugge can come into China.

[manic juniper]

Yes it works like that, even if you are invisible, odourless and don't make any sound you'll still be perceived as long as your heart is beating

Over for fishcels

[dapper laurel]

So a shark can sense me even if I'm not bleeding?

[manic juniper]

Yes

[dapper laurel]

God literally buffed sharks

[frozen cape]

bruh, the borders are not open, you realise how strict immigration policies are? in some places if you have multiple traffic related infractions, the country won't let you in

[dapper laurel]

We need a nerf in the next update

[manic juniper]

As long as you are in the water, since it's technically possible to develop a similar organ that works on land. However air transmission is slower so they'd be less efficient

[frozen cape]

you make it sound as if these countries are letting in hardened criminals

[feral river]

well say that to @shy summit and he will give you answers

[manic juniper]

In fact it's thought that shrews too possess electric sensing capabilities but they only give general information rather than being scarily precise

[frozen cape]

what should i expect? typical right-wing talking points? lol

[dapper laurel]

If an animal developed a similar organ for air, it would be literally invincible, it could detect preis from a distance and it could even avoid other threats

[thorny steeple]

This is true, actually. Most of them don't know how to say arrivederci or ciao

[dapper laurel]

I want to develop something like that

[manic juniper]

It'd be less efficient, that's why it wasn't developed, or if it was, it'd be slower, less precise and less useful

[thorny steeple]

Neither do I, tho

[dapper laurel]

I've also met some of them, and it's obvious that they only have a few Italian ancestors by the way

[dapper laurel]

Oh well, then I will be satisfied with the eyes and the hearing at least

[thorny steeple]

Do you think they look prettier than the average Italian? Brazilians girls of German descent have way different body types

[dapper laurel]

Absolutely not those I met

They weren't very attractive, they were all quite short and skinny

[thorny steeple]

Brazilian "Germans" have latina bodies with German facial traits

[thorny steeple]

Well Brazilians are smaller than Italians

[dapper laurel]

I met one and it's true, they're simply uncanny

[thorny steeple]

They're prettier than the average German women, if they're beautiful. But this is just my personal taste

My city has a lot of people that are of German descent

[formal pilot]

How often do you guys go through nihilistic or existential episodes

[static pivot]

#⭐｜announcements check

[dapper laurel]

Let's say that happens when I see stuff like this

[thorny steeple]

this actually happend in moscow

[summer fable]

Hello one question, are phrasal verbs used in real English?

[prisma cipher]

Stupid

My honest reaction.

[manic juniper]

Did they shoot him down because of Ded Moroz?

[feral river]

https://youtube.com/shorts/zwejwe83J3E?si=SfMDbL_McmRqO1EE

America’s down, now it’s europe

Make Europe Great Again

why the party in those country doesn't have forces ?

if they have that they can just ignore their opposition in cabinet but just march and takeover the government

[true steppe]

Hi serious folks

[thorny steeple]

mussolini tipe shi

[manic juniper]

What the fuck is he talking about... China is becoming green as well, many countries are moving towards it because it's more reliable

[abstract cypress]

The last time a certian failed austrian painter tried to do this, we got a world war and 80 million dead

[stoic gust]

I have finished basic English word which I can image now.

[prisma cipher]

No, because we know what kind of presents he got for us

[prisma cipher]

Unblock you.

[torpid dirge]

That's statment certainly doesn't make sense, what does have to do with muslim ? 😂

[manic juniper]

Scroll up

[torpid dirge]

And I'm also muslim and ik that kodiak bears exist

[manic juniper]

Should've corrected your pals then, it's too late now

[prisma cipher]

What is that

And why it about Muslim

[manic juniper]

It's a brown bear variant from Canada

[manic juniper]

Muslims vs atheists answering a dumb question

They didn't know that polar bears aren't the only ones that live in the North Pole

[torpid dirge]

Tell me one thing just what's ur aspects towards to muslim? Just a question

[manic juniper]

Aspect? What

[torpid dirge]

For muslims?

[manic juniper]

What do you mean

[torpid dirge]

Why do you always criticise muslim at everything?

[manic juniper]

I didn't though, I just said that those two don't know about Kodiak bears

[torpid dirge]

With no fectual evidence and unknowingly

[manic juniper]

Plus why are you so sensitive, they talk shit about atheists all the times and we don't complain

[manic juniper]

I guess you didn't scroll up after all, they don't know that Kodiak bears exist

[olive swallow]

Way would you care if you're atheist??

[manic juniper]

I don't

Why would they care if they don't know about Kodiak bears, not everyone is Canadian

[torpid dirge]

I did but haven't find anything so far eloborately that what does have to with muslim on this kodiak bears

[manic juniper]

You didn't tho...? Both of them thought that only polar bears live in the Arctic

Either you didn't scroll up or you didn't understand

[torpid dirge]

Do you know where did come from kodiak bears? And theirs symbolism?

[manic juniper]

Yes

[elder seal]

This is unlikely to work. Lack of finances generally is only likely to push forwards when people get kids, not increase how many kids they get. If it does, it's likely only a small proportionate increase relative to simple models of explanations. And likely far more costly than the social gain accrued. The reason is simply that culturally, people today value other things than getting children; as money can be spent on more things, people want more with their life than kids

[elder seal]

If he's atheist, he likely criticize all religions - Also Islam

[torpid dirge]

Hmm but literally with no fectual evidence and unknowingly concept,and doesn't make sense humour like atheist

[elder seal]

I'd say criticizing religions is valid because it forces believers to prove a claim true or wrong; so it's a good educational tool if you just want to learn about any religion.

However - Atheism is just a model of explanation. All the atheistic prescription asserts is that there's no reason to believe in God, as there's no explanatory power behind it. That is, there's no reason by which God needs to exist for the world to be as the world is

[torpid dirge]

What does exactly that mean ? I think u didn't understand my point?

Im saying if u haven't fectual evidence to prove any kind of religion wrongly or right , so it's just a illogical argue which doesn't Make sense at all

[elder seal]

I don't know why that isn't logical. If you adhere to a belief, you must have a model of explanation that at least can satisfy reason for belief - This can be either empirical or metaphysical. All atheism asserts is that God isn't necessary to explain the world as it is, and if God isn't necessary, we've no reason to accept the premise that there's a god

[prisma cipher]

Russian reaction to this.

[thorny steeple]

What do u think of world war 2

Is this channel for serious things

[elder seal]

Yes

No sillyness allowed

[prisma cipher]

there are two wars. The ww2, which began in 1939, if I'm not mistaken, and the great patriotic war, which began in 1941, this war is sacred.

[thorny steeple]

I see but did you play cod waw

[elder seal]

Those are generally names for the same war.

[thorny steeple]

I see but which place was so brutal in this war .

Russia ? , france ? , north Africa ?

[elder seal]

The great patriotic war describes the eastern front during world war 2

[elder seal]

Russia was likely the most brutal; eastern front

Reason is what the areas in africa were more sparcely populated; western front didn't last for long and was mostly naval and air battles while the east was closely populated and primarily on land

[thorny steeple]

About 4 millions Germans died , wtf 27 millions died in Russia how 19 millions died from civilians omg

[elder seal]

Yes. Keep in mind, eastern front was fought in an area with a high population density

[thorny steeple]

Oh no ...

[elder seal]

Ye. Africa was generally fought in a less emphatic manner due to scarcely population; mostly desert regions, and because it wasn't the primary concern. If Russia fell, Germany would win. And for the most part the african regions were Italian operated, so less discriminatory racial policy than those in German occupied areas

[thorny steeple]

I see

Wow bro

[elder seal]

Keep in mind, Italy did implement a series of racial policies, but it wasn't exactly as stringent compared to its German counterparts

[thorny steeple]

I think Germans supported Italians in there was at Africa

[prisma cipher]

By the way, the caption on the video says that it's Russian propaganda. Did anyone check where it came from, or everyone just believe it, as usual.

[elder seal]

and the policies were a bit more unpopular than those in Germany, as many members of the Italian fascist leadership were opposed

[elder seal]

They did. It was a front. Germany and Italy were allied

[thorny steeple]

Wow and Japan but that was the worst trois allies

[elder seal]

Yes. The triple alliance. They were bascially all allies. Japan got the U.S into the war

[prisma cipher]

Just saying. it wasn't just Germany who attacked Russia by that time it was a lot of Europe counties working together, some help by people some by technique.

[thorny steeple]

Yup Japan attacked U.S so us declared war , Britain did the same that made Germany to do the same on USA

And that the worst idea ever the leaders did at this time especially when they were at war with Russia

[thorny steeple]

Woah how who else

[elder seal]

I mean. Good explanation for it too. Japan needed oil to fuel its war in China; but it was embargoed by America. Only way then was to take it from Indonesia, which was in Dutch hands, but it was protected by America, so if they attacked America would fight them. Pearl Harbor was a preemptive strike, hoping to cut america off before they could get their war machine up and running

[thorny steeple]

I learnt the history from the cutscenes of this video tbh about Russian region war in ww2

I learnt from this video

[elder seal]

😭 Hey, I learned a lot from video games too. I'd still recommend books if you ever get into it, I've got a minor interest in the interwar period

[thorny steeple]

I see , but still how they think that they can fight america at this time Japan . The wrong idea on those three countries that they fight alot of enemies at the same time

[elder seal]

They likely didn't want to fight america, but hoped that if they could get their war machine up and running, they could win their war in China and manage to get enough resources to hold america off long enough to sue for peace

they likely didn't plan for a prolonged war. Wishful thinking often overtake military leadership in times of war

[prisma cipher]

@thorny steeple this is great Russian popularizer of history. he rarely makes videos with english sub. but here is one about nuremberg trebunal.. You will knew something new. https://youtu.be/9gd_BwAiyrg?si=9IXuHR-b3v8sClZk

[cedar bridge]

[thorny steeple]

I seeee rn

[thorny steeple]

Oooo I'll see it

[prisma cipher]

You unblocked too

[elder seal]

Ye. How most war plans went down. Why Germany invaded Belgium in world war 1 to get to France, didn't turn out well

[prisma cipher]

New year time to unblock people

New year miracle

[prisma cipher]

Yea just turn on sub

[manic juniper]

27 millions in the USSR, not just Russia

[cedar bridge]

I doubt the amount of civilian casualties can be really estimated

[void arch]

how much was German casualties in case of russian-german war

[manic juniper]

WW1?

[prisma cipher]

27 million of Russian is correct. I can say the same. Russian Ukrainian Belarusian the same people most of people were they. So Russian is correct.

[void arch]

no ww2

[manic juniper]

But they were not, they were separated in different Soviet Republics

The death toll may include non Slavic people as well

[void arch]

like Stan region

and Caucasus region

[manic juniper]

It would only make sense to call them Russians if it was still named Russian Empire, or if they were from Russia/the Russian Federation

[prisma cipher]

If I meet a Ukrainian or Belarusian, I will never be able to tell that he isn't Russian unless he tells me about it

[manic juniper]

German casualties include Austria as well for example, anywhere from 5,5 millions to over 7 millions

[manic juniper]

I mistook some Polish people for Finns but they are unrelated to us

[prisma cipher]

I live close to Ukrainian border, they literally the same.

[manic juniper]

I thought you were near Moscow, but yes obviously people along the border look similar or identical

[prisma cipher]

I was there and when I was lil I always confused me how the same people might live in different country

[manic juniper]

The highest Soviet estimate includes all the republics and all the people living there at the times

[prisma cipher]

It in the middle between Moscow and Ukrain, closer to Ukrain

I was there like a lot times, just the same. And before that conflict they thought the same,

Now they think they so much different

[void arch]

thats frightening bro

[prisma cipher]

I will delete it to not fright you

[manic juniper]

They think that they are different in mindset maybe, it could be true. There are countries where people on the border look the same but have completely different mindset, like Spain and Portugal

[prisma cipher]

No it's not true.

[void arch]

frightening for u to live there , closer to that region

[manic juniper]

They are more similar than Ukraine and Belarus are, yet they think in a completely different way

Or Czechia and Slovakia

Completely different mindset yet they look identical and their language has high mutual intelligibility

Slovenia and Croatia as well

[void arch]

cold war

[manic juniper]

Tunisia and Libya

I can think of many to be fair

[void arch]

Morocco and Algeria

[manic juniper]

China and Taiwan
South Korea and North Korea (duh)

[void arch]

real cold war

[manic juniper]

Literally the same people, same language, but they cannot live in the same society, the middle ground would look insane

[void arch]

we have even cultural war between Morocco and Algeria

[void arch]

yes

its about interest

[manic juniper]

Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians are one of the most different trios I can think of

[prisma cipher]

I am quite an old person and I like to be nostalgic about old times and things. and I watched different channels on YouTube. about culture, literature and old games. some of those channels were Ukrainian, but I have no idea about it before conflict. Talking about mindset it the same.

[manic juniper]

Belarusians aren't very patriotic and political

The most patriotic Belarusian I've seen only wanted the white, red and white flag back, and Belarusian language revival

[prisma cipher]

They were Ukrainian but I thought it Russian

If I can't see any different is it exists? I think no

[manic juniper]

What about South Korea and North Korea, their people look identical and speak the same language

Even in the Balkans, Slovenians are elevated while the other South Slavs are savages, and Bulgarians are crazy

[prisma cipher]

I won't play the analogy game, I just don't want to.

[manic juniper]

I'm saying do you really think that Ukrainians or Russians are similar to Belarusians? Have you ever talked to one, they are very chill people

[prisma cipher]

For me it's obvious it the same, and if some Korean have different experience so I should think Ukrainian is different. No thanks

[manic juniper]

Most of them aren't political or patriotic at all

[prisma cipher]

If I talk with Belarus he might think he different

[manic juniper]

Upbringing depends a lot on the country

[prisma cipher]

but I'm talking about my feeling not about his feeling

[manic juniper]

Look at all those countries that speak Arabic yet some of them have little in common with one another

[manic juniper]

I understand, my opinion is that it depends on the country, I don't think that Russia, Ukraine and Belarus are similar, only the appearance (and not all the times), the languages, but people live in a different way

[void arch]

any examples?

[manic juniper]

Lebanon and Tunisia, nothing in common besides the language

Malta speaks a variant of Arabic too, it's different from any Arab majority country

[prisma cipher]

Don't see any different. It not just language.

[void arch]

Religion, some kind of food

[prisma cipher]

The same history religion and culture

[manic juniper]

Yeah but that's different, food travels much faster and religions are almost all the same worldwide

Philippines and France have nothing in common yet they're both Catholic and Christian

[void arch]

olives

[manic juniper]

Weren't you Algerian

[void arch]

give me ur complete lineage

[manic juniper]

Do you even speak Amazigh

[void arch]

is MA we still have the language

i even study it

[manic juniper]

That's mostly true but many countries with shared history look nothing alike today, like North and South Korea, Portugal and Brasil

[void arch]

in primary school

[manic juniper]

Speakers have decreased a lot over time

I've seen the amount of people that speak Amazigh vs those that identify as such

It's very low, very few speak it fluently

[void arch]

thats not the letters

[void arch]

yes

[prisma cipher]

When I grow I read Ukrainian writers who wrote in Russian language. Why not

They read Russian books

Like Gogol or something

[void arch]

Russian literature is my favorites after Arabic

[prisma cipher]

He is Ukrainian but writing in Russian

[manic juniper]

Amazighs will end up like Copts if this trend goes on

[void arch]

my favorite writer is Dostoevsky

[manic juniper]

Their language will die and only the identity will be left

[void arch]

i read a lot of his books

[prisma cipher]

Try Ukrainian Gogol

[void arch]

he likes Cogol

[pastel barn]

Don’t you wanna explain why?

[void arch]

Dostoevsky likes cogol

i have read some passages of him praising Cogol

[manic juniper]

That number is absolutely inflated

[prisma cipher]

Don't like him, try Bulgakov master and margarita. It nice for those who like laughing a bit about religion.

[void arch]

there are many efforts reviving it by education and literature

[prisma cipher]

No

[manic juniper]

Because they can't be over 30 millions, that's an already ridiculous estimate

[pastel barn]

Of course no

[manic juniper]

They're just 3 millions outside of Morocco and Algeria

You're not the first that tries to prove me there are many speakers of Amazigh or Amazighs in general

[quaint dune]

you're too smart to be Finnish

[manic juniper]

Yeah 1 billion Tamazigh speakers in France alone

66 quadrillions in Kaliningrad's oblast in Russia

[void arch]

in Morocco they represent 27%

[manic juniper]

Yet the only real Amazigh I talked to, from Algeria, told me that it's a moribund language

Not larpers that pretend to be Amazigh

[void arch]

I m not into that style of novels but I liked the sarcastic way in Dostoevsky style hope its similar

[manic juniper]

Those are your origins, but you've been Arabised

I don't know how many of you can claim to be Amazigh, it'd be like me pretending to be a Lakelander

[void arch]

in Morocco its the opposite

[manic juniper]

Maybe because the density is higher there

[shrewd scaffold]

Huuuuh !!!

[manic juniper]

She's the only Amazigh speaker I talked to, she is on another language server

[shrewd scaffold]

صعيبة القضية منين تكون حافض و مفاهمش

[manic juniper]

Europeans are people that live on the European continent

It's not about culture

Being African or Asian too has nothing to do with culture

[void arch]

we have an estimation of 27%pure tamazikh and 33%are hybride with the arabs

[shrewd scaffold]

دوي ليها على الاندلس و بلي نصف القطب الاوروبي اصله عرب

[manic juniper]

Cringe

Those aren't European languages

[void arch]

no bcz ppl still speak it , and there're educational efforts

[manic juniper]

Only Italians do

[void arch]

Iberian

8 centuries

hhhh

in their schools they jump from 700 to 1492AD they dont like to read that part of history

the dark ages were golden ages for us

as ibn khaldon said: ''every civilization has its time''

Incha'allah , all about hard working and determination

hhhhhh

[cedar cobalt]

What do you talk about ?

[manic karma]

hii

[cedar cobalt]

Yo

France

And you?

[manic karma]

hii how r uu

sorry... whats that?

[lunar ivy]

what race are you

[cedar cobalt]

Race ?

[manic karma]

nope im from southamerica

[cedar cobalt]

Nice, what language do you speak there?

[lunar ivy]

yes, race

[cedar cobalt]

Fine thank you, and you ?

[cedar cobalt]

What does that mean ?

[manic karma]

ehmmm tired but not enough to go to sleep ...unfortunatly

aaaaaa

[cedar cobalt]

I know this feeling

[manic karma]

im just new in this... i move to europe ... and sometimes is hard for the time in latinamaerica to talk with my friends haha

[cedar cobalt]

And you, how many languages do you speak among theses ?

[manic karma]

nice

[cedar cobalt]

I mean what's your native language ?

That's cool

[true steppe]

📱

[lunar ivy]

are you black french

[cedar cobalt]

Wsh are you racist ?

Yeah, one of my favourite writers is Algerian

[manic karma]

ops

[cedar cobalt]

Albert Camus

Yeah I know, I wanted to act like I'm cool

[uncut cloak]

HI

[cedar cobalt]

Hey

[thorny steeple]

Brazil and Portugal are different due to the nature and the natives' culture, it took more than one month for them to travel, not similar to the countries that you compared

The Portuguese had to swap wheat for cassava because at that time they couldn't grow it in the conquered areas. Wheat is a basic ingredient of any western country I guess

[silk badger]

he lie

don't believe him

[thorny steeple]

Debunk me

Estudante do mec

[silk badger]

to brincando garai

[lime jolt]

hi estrogen humans

[silk badger]

believe him guys

[manic juniper]

повзьӧдлана дерьмо

[cedar cobalt]

On s'amuse bien ici

[manic juniper]

When you think that all of European history from those time is just the Iberian peninsula

God nationalists like you belong to the Hun slave caravans

[formal pilot]

💀

[thorny steeple]

The Netherlands too was prosperous within this timespan, Spain was only unified and had fully expelled the Muslims from the territory in 1492

[manic juniper]

By the mid 13th century there was only Granada left

[prisma cipher]

Оба

[thorny steeple]

Indeed last bastion of Islam in southern Spain

[lunar ivy]

no, but I have preference

[cedar cobalt]

A preference in what terms? Aesthetics?

[lunar ivy]

yes

everyone does

[cedar cobalt]

You're right, but we don't usually say it

[thorny steeple]

@manic juniper https://youtu.be/-i0-Mgn-8gQ?si=Wq8z61bhAo2DHdOk this banger has picked my interest in old English lmao

@dapper laurel OMNES OPTANT MUNDUM REGERE

[dire wing]

omnis cellula e cellula

[formal pilot]

Double it and give it to the next person you see

[feral river]

free contraception materials provided by local government

Fuck yeah free condom

[cedar cobalt]

Bahahahaha

[native mango]

The government don't wanna see more like you

[thorny steeple]

Alhamdulillah

https://tenor.com/view/mike-o'hearn-gif-7678673529070379788

[indigo nacelle]

hi

hi

[thorny steeple]

It's free in Brazil too

[manic karma]

hahahaha

someone know something about Peru?

[thorny steeple]

The battle of Las Navas and Toleso was decisive

For Portugal it was the battle of Ourique

[feral river]

it's better than be born like you in poor sanitation condition areas

[manic juniper]

It's crazy how the Christians won despite being numerically inferior, maybe it had to do with the templars and crusaders at large supporting them from other European countries

[native mango]

I was born in Saudi Arabia

[timber musk]

anyone who knows intergration ?

[cedar cobalt]

I know integration but intergration 🤔

[thorny steeple]

A rare moment of pan-European cooperation throughout history

[thorny steeple]

Bros in love with chung min

Hi

[plush raft]

Hi

[uncut mist]

Is it in china?

[uncut mist]

[lime jolt]

peru-fect