🧠｜serious-chat

[violet peak]

You can’t just “forget a memory” Its not easy

I still can’t forget one thing

And that is my cat dying

[craggy sphinx]

If you have made any mistake, then you must do everything possible to prevent this from happening again

If you have figured out why you made this mistake, then I no longer see any reason to worry about it. the rest looks like rumination.

[violet peak]

What Is a “Rumination”?

[deep loom]

Yes we can't forget that easily.
But atleast trying not to feed it more or trying to take off it's power by not giving much attention to it or burying the triggers kinda helps maybe.

[craggy sphinx]

excessive thoughts about what has already been decided and cannot be changed. it's a waste of time and energy.

[deep loom]

Oh I'm sorry.
Such things we can't forget, we don't even want to.

I'm sorry about that, let's just hope it's in a better place now!

[deep loom]

Yes very true.
Learn from the mistake and move on...
That seems better.

[violet peak]

That would help not much but a little Is better than nothing
Yeah 17 ages and middle school-high school Is really hard cuz you just think you messed up everything In a tiny mistake

We all become very soft In those ages

[violet peak]

Thanks

[deep loom]

Yeah, losing a person or losing something that's really close, we can't really ever recover from such things.
As we might also lost a part of us with them

[violet peak]

Thanks 💛

[deep loom]

Yes that's right.

[deep loom]

No problem at all and you're welcome tho.

[violet peak]

Only thing we can Is study for the future mom and dad Is not Immortal…

[deep loom]

Yes.
In some situations, studying is the only way out.
Nothing else helps.

[violet peak]

Yeah ur right and I am living In a country that has a bad economy so only way out Is just study and go to an another country

Thats hard but what other choice do I have?

[deep loom]

Got it.
Kinda same way here.

[violet peak]

Wish you the best luck bro I hope you can do well In the future

[deep loom]

Yep nothing else.
So give it your all and study so well and reach your desired destination.

[deep loom]

Thank you so much bro.
I wish the very same to you.

We got this. 🥰

[craggy sphinx]

Why can’t many people discuss various topics in this way?

90% of the time I feel like both sides are spewing hatred and dogmatism

[deep loom]

Oh maybe the topics they're discussing are like that.

[violet peak]

Average human disagreement

[craggy sphinx]

I don't think the topic is the reason for this. what matters is who is behind it🙃

[deep loom]

True tho.

[abstract swift]

who?

[jolly agate]

eisan

[thorny steeple]

go to bed

[teal laurel]

hey everyone! If there is anyone who would just quickly like to check over a grammar assignment that would be really appreciated! I just want a second opinion ❤️

[jolly agate]

Please visit #📝｜proofreading

[thorny steeple]

I have the same anger.
https://youtu.be/VnKk0L3y9iM?si=VOg6vQJjIlm_s6ub

[thorny steeple]

the only two explanations that I could possibly come up with for (most of) the Israelis psychological condition, they are either lunatic psychopaths, or they are simply brainwashed, other than that, there is no human being on earth with basic compassion and feeling of empathy, which are qualities that distinguish human beings from other creatures, who would say such thing!

WARNING: don't watch the video if you're sensitive to children fear or suffrage.
for the pro-Israeli people, imagine if those two innocent souls were your children, or brother and sister, or even two of your relatives, do you see how inhuman you're when you support Israel? this is only scratching the surface of the amount of horror Palestinians see every day.
explanation: they are shaking from fear after their home was bombed, Alhamdulillah they've even made it alive.

@jolly agate why is there a dislike on my post, do you disagree with what I've said?

[jolly agate]

that was for the girls in the vid

[thorny steeple]

I see. ✨

[feral river]

kill a potential national threat definitely

you will never care a man that possibly kill you in the future

for me I’m gonna kill him first

actually Israel is the powerful side, they have the ability to eliminate national threats

no matter what, a children a woman or a an elder

because it’s a direct threat to their security

if you don’t threaten them, take hostages, launch rockets, they won’t do something like this

if you gonna say something about history about how palestine wiped out from the map

you lose the war, and you deserve it

and you gonna lose more if you lose this war again

they choose use their resources to bought more missiles, to train more fighters, rather than develop themselves

then why I’m gonna pay their actions ?

I’m from the PRC, I literally don’t care something in middle east

but I know the truth, the actions they do

and I hate a beg guy that literally threat other people’s lives

[balmy lava]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlDu4vei2mo

[strong hound]

Idc who wins the war

I want them to stop fighting

[abstract swift]

har

[harsh pelican]

Hi

[thorny steeple]

a thief will definitely be intimidated by the threat of the police. I agree.
sure, people like Hamas, who have really came to exist due to Israel in the first place make up a threat to Israel, and are mostly Palestinians.
Israel has stolen their land, committed numerous massacres against them, stripped away their right of return to their own land, refused to have a two state solution, and displaced them. the only reason Palestinians make up a huge threat to Israel, is that it's so aghast at the fact that it'll get punished for the mass crime it has committed when it has stolen this land.

[thorny steeple]

while part of the problem is that Israel is barbarically murdering innocent civilians, my point is that which side do you pick, and I'm making an argument that if you support Israel you're most certainly inhuman, and therefore don't have the right to be annoyed when people call you that, unless you're inconsistent.

[strong hound]

it's their war, ultimately the winner is going to win and the loser is going to lose, each country has backings from other countries, Israel is allied with the U.S. so most people in the U.S. will support Israel, I don't keep track of the war nor do I really understand the motive of the war, and I don't particularly care about it; but I think it's normal to support the side that is allied with your country.

it's less of who's right and who's wrong, and more of a "who's victory will benefit me more"

[thorny steeple]

Your country cares though and that’s okay. I mean China is an important player in the international arena

[thorny steeple]

As well as the NATO

[thorny steeple]

Well yeah, agree somehow

[strong hound]

yeah they have a high population and land mass, and they manage a majority of manufactures

[strong hound]

but what are they fighting for

I only seem to find that the're fighting over "holy land"

but i find that a little hard to believe

cus 1- if its a religious war, i'm 99% sure their holy book says killing people and war is bad

im not religious and the only holy book i have read the bible, but i heard theyre simular

and 2- I don't see how they decided on having this war take place with that many of their citizens in exchange for those land

i just don't think that motive is enough for so many people to agree on this war

i would get it if one side if far more dominant and knows they'll win easily

but they're not

[thorny steeple]

They are fighting for their influence. Who’ll be the most influential actor in the region. Israel is under support from the United States, whereas the Arab world stands with the Palestinians people

[thorny steeple]

Yeah, they are I guess

Muslims believe this land (all of the Israel territories) should belong to Palestine

It’s not only about "the Jewish people attacking us, they want to shatter the whole nation and so on"
What about those mottos?Something like "from the river to the sea…"

I don’t know 🤷‍♂️

This is a spiritual war out there

I wouldn’t eventually want to see the extermination of nations and all its culture

But it’s all coming to this end

We could’ve probably suspended this

But it isn’t the time now

@strong hound how would you see the end of this situation?

[strong hound]

I don’t know, i don’t really keep track with the war, but I’m gonna assume Israel’s will win since they won the last few and they seem to have greater backing.

[thorny steeple]

I don’t want us to wind up being ultimately nuked

[thorny steeple]

As far as I know, every single war in that region was started by the Arab countries

[strong hound]

Us as in United States? Or one of the 2 countries

[thorny steeple]

I mean the entire population

[strong hound]

I asked my dad since he’s good at history and stuff and it seems like it

[strong hound]

Of which country

[thorny steeple]

The whole world

[strong hound]

I doubt the whole world will get nuked

I like to think the majority of people aren’t stupid

Especially people in power

[thorny steeple]

Yeah, probably most countries

[thorny steeple]

Yeah

[strong hound]

The thing is, most people aren’t stupid, they just don’t care to think, that’s fine when things are well, until it isn’t

And there’s also the fact that people are scared to speak against the public view

There are def some dumb people but it’s not as promenent as we think

[thorny steeple]

I hope everything will be fine. A human species finds a way how to prevent and mitigate the threat of being razed to the ground

I sincerely hope

hello

[strong hound]

Everything eventually goes extinct, I doubt we will live to see humans go extinct, but it’s going to eventually happen, be it a hundred years from now or 100 thousand.

[thorny steeple]

Yeah

[feral river]

well that’s your problem, they occupied your territory and you want to take it back so war begins

and it seems palestine is losing this war, so literally you screwed up

I mean them not you

if you think you can take back your territory through war, then you have to pay for it

if you lose this war, you may lost more or simply they will annex the all of palestinian states

it’s a war not a drama, they want to eliminate you because you threaten their national security, and you have to fight against them because you want your land back

the only solution, is the winner who defines what is going to be

it’s pointless to say something about civilian deaths that violates international law or not

there is no force measures that ensure everyone is gonna obey it.

no justice side and no evil side, that’s an excuse that justifies your action which is in your interest

and I’m not going to convince you about this, I’m literally sympathize the people who dead or suffering in a war

but it’s normal, it’s a war, and there will be civilian casualties which not supposed be killed

and I believe their civilian also supports their government to launch this war, and they also need to pay for it.

“原子弹下无冤魂”, “there are no underserved people which is dead under the strike by nuclear bomb” - an assessment of nuclear strike in Nagasaki by United States in WW2

[feral river]

well I don’t know lolololol

I guess our gov literally sympathize both side and they wanna trade with both side rather than supports one side that offends the other side

[thorny steeple]

Yep

China will always be doing as much as they can for their own people

And that’s not a bad approach

They’ll be getting benefits from both sides

Like they do with Ukraine. China doesn’t support any particular side

They make some money and then spend them on the people of their own

It’s not like the United States. The US can be attached to a certain country

Israel for instance

[thorny steeple]

They’ve been supporting them throughout the history of this state

[feral river]

they need a puppet in middle east

they have a puppet in asia, a puppet in europe

[thorny steeple]

To sustain their influence in that region

[feral river]

totally true

we only have north korea as our buffer state 😭

but they have so much puppet states

[thorny steeple]

Yes, because the US is a hegemon

They need to sustain plenty of "puppet" points around the world

[feral river]

yeah that's best for americans I guess

[thorny steeple]

I think so as well

[feral river]

they could take huge profit through those states in almost any field

[thorny steeple]

Definitely

[feral river]

economically, militarily, spread influence or launch a coup against an enemy

they are literally superpower

and they can do anything they want

[thorny steeple]

Yeah

[feral river]

that is the United States of America

there is no another superpower, such as Soviet Union or British Empire in modern days

so it's hegemon

[quiet abyss]

Guys it’s me

im back

[worn jasper]

What do you say about this chapter

[civic reef]

kind of an exaggeration id say, i dont like going into politics or stuff, but for example Myanmar's state now, both china and america are hopeless

the country is ruled by outraged military, who is so egoistic and unwilling to cooperate with anyone, that no matter who talks to them, they wont listen

i was about to mention north korea, but north korea has ties with chinese government, and they like to commit crimes together, so this country isnt unwilling to cooperate with everyone, they cooperate with only one criminal organization (chinese gov)

[feral river]

we did liberate our chinese citizens who were take hostages in myanmar 🤣

good job gov

why you think chinese gov is a criminal organization

[civic reef]

because of its corruption

[feral river]

oh really ? sounds like in 2014

but today is 2023

it’s an authoritarian government

but it doesn’t even mean it’s a corrupt government

actually they did something like great purge against corruption in almost any provinces

[civic reef]

i think chinese people would like to maybe have access to the internet as we do in europe, and you know, maybe have it all easier for migrants, like allowing visas easier or all that, spying on the citizens less (the cameras are common arent they)

[feral river]

oh then I have been spyed by 21 years

[civic reef]

unfortunately

[feral river]

and I didn’t even see one crime in our core state

even one

except traffic incidents

I went to a lot of places and provinces

I didn’t even see one

[civic reef]

well, i was told about some by other chinese who also told me they'd love to never even be born under that state

[feral river]

everything is okay society is stable

well maybe he is born in a poor province

or Xinjiang

[civic reef]

in changhsa

changsha probably, my bad

[feral river]

changsha is amazing

[civic reef]

yes

[feral river]

I ever been there

[civic reef]

id like to see it too but idk, id have to just gather my courage to even arrive in china lol

[feral river]

I admit there is a corruption in our government, but the situation has never been severe since 2014

it’s an authoritarian government that suppresses your liberty but it doesn’t even mean it’s corrupted

and literally they won’t care some citizens who doing something like hate our government

they won’t take actions before you attend a protest

[civic reef]

okay i see, yeah like its all very different, here you could wish death upon state members publically exclaiming it in a protest, and as long as you dont beat anyone up physically or attack any private property physically, then thats fine

[feral river]

well they will take any actions possible that against a protest

we dont allow protest

it’s illegal

they may kill you in a protest

[civic reef]

Different chinese say it in a different way, I noticed, some people say it as you do, other ones say that it is all terrible, corruption is severe, and police will not help you even if you got raped

[feral river]

and they did it before in Tiananmen square

[civic reef]

i have heard that word, yes

[feral river]

I guess it’s incorrect information, police definitely won’t do that and there is a full regulation for the actions that a police can do or can’t do

you can even prosecute a police

and a police doesn’t even mean he’s superior or something it’s just a police

not a bureaucrat

if he didn’t take any action to stop a rape or a crime they will be fired

it’s their duty and we all know it

[civic reef]

hmmm okay i hope youre right then, if youre so sure then you must be

tbh some people do come to china dont they, white or even black, and they apparently can live there and not get killed

[feral river]

probably, we are not a immigration country

they even suppresses uyhgur in Xinjiang

massive surveillance with re-education camp

[civic reef]

basically adolf h#tler stuff

[feral river]

they always suppresses minorities and we support them

👍

that’s best for our nation

[civic reef]

wouldnt it be better if those minorities were not surpressed

[feral river]

no

definitely not, they will unstablize our society

suppress them better kill them all

well they won’t kill them all 🤣

[civic reef]

i imagine it could be difficult if there was someone mixed with those minorities, like han chinese mixed with them and now this person is an adult who wants to live a normal life, but someone finds out he/she had a minority father

[feral river]

90% of people are majority so almost no one cares them

[feral river]

oh you know what, if you are a minority and you don’t attend something or do something that possibly unstablize our society

you will be okay

such as denounce your belief or religion, and become pro-CCP

[fathom vine]

Yep drinking a coffee and reading average mindset of USA civilians 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[feral river]

that’s easy and accessible

[fathom vine]

Prove me wrong they are not stupid

[balmy lava]

~topic

[molten mica]

What were you completely certain of until you found out you were wrong?

[civic reef]

european healthcare is way better than american, korean healthcare is also way better than american, japanese too, basically many countries are doing so much better than americans

[feral river]

why not Chinese healthcare 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[civic reef]

because i have no idea about chinese one

[feral river]

oh im kidding, chinese healthcare system sucks

but still better than america

because it’s cheap

[civic reef]

in america one ride in an ambulance is expensive, here you can get one for free and sometimes even if the condition isnt so severe

[fathom vine]

Imagine choosing your money to go into military to put their nose in other countries than choosing for a better health care

[feral river]

well we spent 50 USD for once ambulances 😭😭😭😭

and it can’t be paid by insurance

[civic reef]

in childhood i used to get severe fevers, like 40 celsius degrees and 39 degrees, thanks god the ambulance was free because i ended up being in it like 5 times at least, lol

[feral river]

well, I think

if it’s just a fever less than a week

we won’t call ambulance or go to the hospital

because it’s freaking expensive

[civic reef]

possible here too, but i was so heated, and so red, also dehydrated very quickly, that they had to take care of this

[feral river]

that’s also nice, everything will be okay is the best

even Indian healthcare better than america ? idk but american healthcare sucks

[rose wedge]

Israel > palastin

[humble lion]

[rose wedge]

muslim < Israel

[humble lion]

[feral river]

well I had enough about the israeli-palestinian war something let’s just change the topic🤣🤣🤣🤣

[rose wedge]

It's obvious that Israel will win

and destroy all terrorist

[feral river]

yes you are right but someone does not satisfy with your speech

[rose wedge]

coward palestine uses their woman and children as a shield

[feral river]

I guess idk but telling the truth

israel is going to win

[rose wedge]

yup

[civic reef]

minecraft person

i have a question

[balmy lava]

Israel≠palastin

[civic reef]

i am aware that technically both hong kong and macao are in china, and am also kinda aware of how hong kong functions, but how does this work with macao, like, its got only 700k citizens, but thats kinda a different part of the country, is it really so different from hong kong/rest of china

[feral river]

the China-UK agreement about hong kong ?

they created a system that called one country, two system for retake the hongkong from the british

and it worked, it’s like a sub-government with high autonomy on everything

[broken birch]

This chat becomes political

[feral river]

but they suppressed their autonomy since the release of the national security law in hongkong in 2021

[balmy lava]

Israel!=Palastin

[feral river]

unlike macau, they are always pro-CCP and they are wealthy and prosperous

[civic reef]

Yeah i am a bit aware of this, i meant Macao more

[balmy lava]

Damn, it's Palestine

[broken birch]

Imagine someone entered your house then said this is my house cuz my 1394968th grandfather stepped in the ground here

[feral river]

actually macau should not be a SAR but they did and it worked

[balmy lava]

bad metaphor

[civic reef]

I didnt even know they existed, but one day I searched for east asian map and flags, and found out that theyve got their own currency and flag

[broken birch]

Its literally what just happened

[feral river]

well, yes it’s a SAR, special autonomous region

but they are part of the people’s republic of china

it’s so prosperous and it’s the las vegas in asia

hong kong is the economy center in asia, just like new york and london

well before the 2021 I guess, but it still worked

both region are chinese territory

I ever been both places, we don’t need visa or something to visit👍

[feral river]

do you know the asia economy crisis thing ?

and hong kong was less affected because chinese government interfered this situation like support hong kong government economically

[civic reef]

not so much, i certainly must have heard that, but not really. I know education crises and demographic crisis in japan and south korea, and china

[feral river]

unfortunately I have to say it’s a terrible situation for us

but I guess we have a strong government that controls everything

and they do have ability to change this situation

and I hope it will be worked

[civic reef]

i would like to see more american-chinese cooperation and agreements, maybe it would help both countries to solve their economic problems

[feral river]

that’s excellent

but don’t send someone who wants to fight against our authoritarian rule

it’s futile and useless, we need CCP and they have to work for us

90% of Chinese people supports CCP

[balmy lava]

95%

[civic reef]

i think those stats might be difficult to take, because some people maybe dont want to admit they dont support, but they will say they do so that no one argues with them

[feral river]

they will because that’s their interest

CCP provides a lot to me and to other people in here, we all need them actually

60% of my friend wants to join CCP, even it’s hard to join

and I know what are they doing, unlike someone doesn’t admit they did a masscare in tiananmen square, suppress minorities and kill someone in our state

just like I said before, it’s best for the majority

benefits the majority of people is the best government

not divide them to a lot of parties and some groups that unstablize our society

it’s a terrible situation and ineffective to do anything

if CCP fall in power, the situation only will be worse, not better

it’s the CCP bring China become the second most powerful nation in the world

if they are well-worked, we don’t care a dictatorship runs everything

actually they are

I’m definitely gonna leave if CCP take a fool in power

[thorny steeple]

Palestine

[balmy lava]

I think Palestine is easier to spell than Israel

[feral river]

it’s hard in my language 🤣

[balmy lava]

It's easy to remember it into pale and stine

But every time I spell Israel I can't spell the rael part correctly

[craggy sphinx]

[broken birch]

[jolly agate]

[keen lance]

is it normal to wantedly cry

even though nothing is wrong

yea

sorry if it isnt a good thing to ask

ok

its just that ive been crying for no reason for a week or something

but i am not stressed about anything, and nothing's happened to me

i doubt

its just something that happens before i sleep

i am usually pretty cheerful and carefree at day time

maybe

its hard to imagine that something is wrong in me

like i know im repeating myself but i dont have a reason to be crying...

well i'll see later

thank you for speaking your thoughts though

that's the issue... I dont think there's dirt around me

and i dont even follow up on social media or news

in fact I am practically living under a rock..

[keen lance]

right

[azure fable]

hii

[thorny steeple]

What is the difference between the two?
What do I write every day?
What I write every day?

[broken birch]

The (do)

Idk ig you use do to confirm the sentence

[formal scaffold]

the first seems to be asking about a suggestion and the second seems to ask about confirmation

[rare prairie]

hi

how often do you guys think about suidice?

[obtuse perch]

Haram.

[rare prairie]

then you probably can't think about it and hence have no experience

[obtuse perch]

Trust me i suffer more than what u gonna imagine

[rare prairie]

allah's not liking that brother

[jaunty badger]

wassup everyone

wha tisa the topic

[rare prairie]

nevermind, it was a mistake to even discuss it

how's everybody's days so far?

[deep loom]

Like how often do we feel suicidal?

[rare prairie]

idk, every once in a while

[deep loom]

Do you feel suicidal every once in a while?

[rare prairie]

I just wonder about it every once in a while

so yeah

[deep loom]

Oh no! Sorry to know that.
Is everything alright?
Thinking too often about it doesn't seem good.

[rare prairie]

you sound like I'm talking to chatGPT 🙂

[deep loom]

Oh! Uhm okay, sure.

But if you don't mind me asking, Do you have any serious issues that makes you feel that way?

[rare prairie]

nah, I'm okay

[deep loom]

Alright, hope you'll be really okay soon.

Whenever you feel that way, please don't ever even consider doing anything.

[rare prairie]

why?

[deep loom]

I mean doing anything that could be injurious to you.

[deep loom]

Because you matter and so does your life.

[rare prairie]

I'ld disagree

everything in life is relativistic

[deep loom]

Yeah, I can understand that.

[rare prairie]

trying to be all supportive and shit won't make me feel any better yk?

[fiery wave]

Hello fellow people.

[deep loom]

Yes but I can't help you in any way now, atleast i wish to be 0.00001% suppurative. Because I feel so bad when I know someone's feeling that way.

[deep loom]

Then share your problems, anyone here could try to help maybe?

[rare prairie]

as I said, nevermind this topic

[fiery wave]

What IS your problem man

WE Can Help you

[rare prairie]

none of your business

man

[fiery wave]

Okay

[hybrid creek]

my exemplary acquaintance: @craggy sphinx

[thorny steeple]

signification of a major depression which usually occurs in winter and autumn seasonal mood shiftings and it dont try to stuck on it bro if it reaches your capability just go to someone who is professional or doctor dont hesitate.

[thorny steeple]

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3193320/one-day-three-former-chinese-police-chiefs-are-each-jailed-more

China is literally one of the worst countries that I wouldn't like to visit:
https://youtu.be/wjj_mkc6b6s?si=c9PBMfxZTvoWV-NA

[thorny steeple]

Jeez! Alhamdulillah for the blessing of Islam.

without Islam specifically, many people would lose their moral compass to resemble this awful mindset.

May Allah avenge the innocent souls that have been massacred by the terrorist regime of Israel, and punish every criminal who supports this regime.

[fleet forum]

Hello everyone!
I'm new here

[feral river]

see, use the Islam to justify your goal and achievement

and it’s nothing compared with a great power 🤣

they will simply destroy them physically

[feral river]

it’s an authoritarian state and it’s a part of great purge that launched by Xi jinping

I don’t think you did blame my state is a good choice but if you did let’s say something about your Islam something like Jihad strikes a lot of places

like Israel, Russia, North Africa, Syria, Iraq, Kuwait, China, and the European Union and United States

they are AI-Qaeda and ISIS and they already have been eliminated by the US in war on terror

and they will contiguously support Israel to against terrorism

because Islam generates terrorist

that was a simple reason you can admit it or not, but the truth will not be changed because of your speech

and about China, I think we don’t like Islam, we hate Islam

we are so willing to kill all of the Islam terrorist in China mainland

it’s racist, and we don’t care racist

90% of Chinese is Han Chinese

of course if you don’t have any intention about spread Islam thing, religion or something like you are muslim, we also welcomes them

spread your belief is threat national security in our state and it’s illegal

and I guess Israelis also wants kill all of those threats

and they are winning

one crucial thing that you fear or think China is worse state just because you want to fight against our society

and they won’t do anything except simply kill you

and we are so freaking support them to kill those guys

[late ridge]

what are you taking about?

Religions?

[ebon crypt]

Just a few more teenagers who think they know about life, talking about what they don't know either... nothing new.

[feral river]

yes including religion, such as Christianity, Islam

we promote no religion for everyone in here, but we don't force them to denounce their religion if they are already abopted one

but if they did something possibly or potentially threat our national security, they will be arrested or send them to the re-education camp literally concentration camp or execute them.

so, it was possible to be arrested if you spread some information from the Bible or other stuff related to religion

[near dust]

Hello

[crystal bough]

are you a fan of Genghis khan?

[feral river]

no we also suppress mongols 🤣

actually they are already assimilated by us

[crystal bough]

okay

[crystal bough]

do you follow any religion

[feral river]

well no, personally I don't discriminate religious people

but I support what our government did to them

it's the best for our society

[crystal bough]

So you follow what the government tells you to do?

[feral river]

hell no I don't wanna be controlled by them

I have my own thought and my own interest

they maximum my interest, so I support them

[crystal bough]

really the government does best for the society you believe that?

😆

[feral river]

not all the things they do, depends what is that

if you are refering massive survelliance, suppress minorities

I'm telling you of course and we urge them to kill those guys which make our society instable

[crystal bough]

so you support Israel?

[feral river]

yes I support the winner

I don't support a loser

[crystal bough]

so who's winning

?

[feral river]

Israel

[crystal bough]

https://tenor.com/view/controlling-laugh-laughing-oh-god-thats-funny-funny-thats-hilarious-gif-26533352

[feral river]

obviously Israel is winning no doubt

🤣 \

[crystal bough]

okay nice talking to you

[feral river]

china doesn't receive any refugees, and no formal immigration program, suppress religious people, and benefit the majority

unlike some place they make everything confuse

make everything fucking effective

we only care ourselves, not the freaking humanity

that's why I support them

[broken birch]

Okay we as Muslims have different opinion

[broken birch]

We support the people in Palestine because they are Muslims too
And as our prophet says "The believers in their mutual kindness, compassion and sympathy are just like one body. When one of the limbs suffers, the whole body responds to it with wakefulness and fever"

As long as we know who is right and who is wrong
And history never lies

Even if you are not Muslim and you don't care how the way we think
Allah said in Qur'an at the end of the world before the Doomsday Palestine will be liberated

Nobody knows when but the signs we have tells us that its really close

[thorny steeple]

so far, you've being using multiple fallacies, such as red herring (evading my main argument by posing irrelevant arguments), and straw-man (such as saying that I'm using Islam as an argument).
my argument is simple, do you support Israel on its mass genocide against the Palestinians? if you say yes, you're by definition inhuman, if you say no, then you condemn Israel, in which case I wouldn't oppose you. my argument does not include the motive for Israel to carry out its barbaric and ferocious genocide. you already said that you think they should keep "suppressing" Palestinians so it has been made clear that you're definitely inhuman, i.e., lacking in compassion and empathy, which are two qualities that mainly mark human beings.

[feral river]

I clearly expressed my stance about this war, which is I empathy the innocent civilian who were dead because of this war, and I respect the truth and rather than the other thing like I'm inhuman or I'm not, you are definitely trying to use your standard to define what I'm, I don't accept this and I know what the Pelestinian government in gaza, the hamas do, and I think they deserve it.

the Palestinian government, the hamas represents the people in gaza, and they started war, they launch missles and start invasion in Israel and they failed their operation and Israel fought it back

and they do hide their officers, and military stuff in a civilian building, they use human shields

that's the truth that you can never change

It's the truth we all know, not in the EU not in the US, in here we all know

so that's why I said you deserve it

if their government which is represented by the people, and they started war but they suffered their people by themselves, that's their issue, not the enemy

you think Israeli are enemies and you want to elimate them you want to take their land in middle east

of course they are gonna kill you, you are threatening them

[thorny steeple]

when Israel is targeting facilities that mainly house innocent civilians, they are definitely terrorist. and if you sympathize this regime that makes you a terrorist sympathizer.
my standard is objective, whether you like it or not, you'll be labelled inhuman if you support the indiscriminate bombing of Palestinians that is being done by Israel.
if Hamas deserve being killed for allegedly killing 1200 Israelis, then Israel deserves it 16 times more for killing approximately 17,000 Palestinian.

[feral river]

I believe there is no more deaths in gaza if hamas surrendered to the israel

and

It's a good advantage on everything for this death rate

[thorny steeple]

when there is a war, you better have b4lls and only attack the army, not their innocent families.

[feral river]

1 israeli : 10 palestinian

what a good advantage, already won dude

[thorny steeple]

prove it.

[feral river]

didn't you realize that your army literally hide in there and they don't protect their civilians 🤣

[thorny steeple]

I'm willing to accept it, obviously it wouldn't justify their action, but I'd like to see how would you prove something the whole Israeli government couldn't do.

[feral river]

I want to say, I accept the truth, which means if you admit the truth, there is no argument anymore

[thorny steeple]

these civilians are being bombed in the spot, how would they protect them if they don't know where are they coming from, it's completely absurd.

[feral river]

if you don't hide in there maybe they won't be bombed ?

you have to know one thing the thing has most priority, is destory the enemy forces

[thorny steeple]

if the enemy is attacking defenseless innocent civilians intentionally, they are cowards. if you support their cowardice, then damn, you might be also coward.

[feral river]

they are not, your civilian literally paying taxes to your government, they supplies them

they are taxpayers

and they support your government to against the enemy

they are enemies

if they do evc they won't dead in there

[thorny steeple]

any Zionist who supports their occupation and wants to take over more land for themselves in the expense of murdering innocent civilians who are INDIEGNOUS to their land, he's certainly disgusting and deserves severe punishments.

[feral river]

so, that's your real stance

[thorny steeple]

my problem is not whether they are gonna kill me or not, my argument is that they are criminals and you shouldn't support them, if you do, you're definitely criminal in a sense as well.

[feral river]

you hate them not because they are bombing the civilians, just because they are jews and they did occupied your land which is lost to them

[feral river]

It's hard to say I'm supporting them or not, but give you an example

[thorny steeple]

that's definitely my stance, and it's the stance any rational empathetic human being with basic human feelings would also take.

[feral river]

did US gov supports Israel

[thorny steeple]

yes.

[feral river]

so are they terriost government ?

[thorny steeple]

yes.

[feral river]

and because they supports your enemy so they are terriost government

is that correct ?

[thorny steeple]

because they support a terrorist regime, they are also terrorist, a terrorist regime is definitely also my enemy.

[feral river]

so the argument is over, I respect your interest, you need to destory Israel for your state and your future

[rare prairie]

and Hamas killing Israels isn't terrorist? because allegedly it's in smaller quantities?

[feral river]

but I think it's not my interest to elimate jews in the middle east

It's not the point about terrorism or not, it's just a stance

we are talking about stance not the other thing

[thorny steeple]

straw-man again. I oppose terrorism even if it's not aligned with my personal interests, I'm not inhuman like others who might do that.

[feral river]

terrorism is an excuse that justifies your action

I can say anything terrorism

that is the truth

the real truth

and I respect you, if you want to destory your enemy

I respect you

[thorny steeple]

why is it excuse when I use it, but when you do, it's a fact? this pretty much sounds like bigotry.

[feral river]

because in here, Islam is unwelcome

it's sad to say, but it's the best for our nation

and I did ADMIT

it's an excuse to fight against Islam in China

[thorny steeple]

not an argument, you arbitrarily label 2 billion people terrorists.

[feral river]

that's the truth

[thorny steeple]

why is it the truth?

'cause you said so?

[feral river]

no, you know what Chinese government do on the muslims

I didn't say something wrong they literally suppress them

[thorny steeple]

why would I care about what your "Chinese" evil government think about Muslims?

I'm asking you, not your Chinese government.

[feral river]

me ?

I respect muslims

I have a muslim friend

It's nothing wrong with them

[thorny steeple]

you just called them terrorist, 2 billion people in this world are Muslims.

they make up the biggest religious group in the world.

[feral river]

but it doesn't even mean that I can't be friend with them 🤣

[thorny steeple]

you're a friend with terrorists?

[feral river]

why not, they are not threatening me

they are threaten their enemy not me 🤣

[thorny steeple]

alright, why are they terrorists?

you simply arbitrarily label people terrorist based on your own whims.

[feral river]

It's a complicated question but I guess because of the war on terror

and we call them terrorists just because inherent impression ?

[thorny steeple]

so you blindly adopt the narrative of the U.S and Israel?

[feral river]

I guess it's discrimination, I'm sorry about that

[feral river]

no, there is no any narrative of the US an Israel

[thorny steeple]

are you sorry for calling 2 billion Muslims terrorists?

[feral river]

just the inherent impression

[feral river]

yes

[thorny steeple]

that's kind of odd, but good.

you said earlier that Islam generates terrorists, do you also take that back?

[feral river]

sad they can't handle Israeli attacks

[feral river]

that is no

[thorny steeple]

what do you know about Islam to called a generator of terrorism?

[feral river]

I already heard something like Jihadism that promote death strike in other country

the 911

and it's originate from Islam

[thorny steeple]

yes, that terrorist Netanyahu referenced the biblical Amalek event, which is a call for a mass genocide, that includes every living thing you encounter.

[feral river]

there is no such things in buddhism, Christianity

[thorny steeple]

Christianity's old testament is the Torah itself, so they also believe in the Amalek event that exists in Judaism.

[feral river]

wow you are a genius like an expert about religion

[thorny steeple]

while Islam explicitly forbids the killing of women, children, elderly people, animals etc... and forbids burning houses and trees during the battle.

[feral river]

I don't know those things

[feral river]

but the ISIS and Taliban in afganistan ?

[thorny steeple]

if they did otherwise they simply didn't abide by the Islamic rulings.

[feral river]

nice point

wow you are a genius you told me that not all the bad things happened on Islamic rulings

[thorny steeple]

so Islam is not a terrorism generator as the media pretty much likes to portray it, it's the most humane religion I've learned in my life. I used to be an atheist and learned about many religions.

[feral river]

but I think most people live in the other world were indoctrinated the bad things about islam

well I guess

[thorny steeple]

Alhamdulillah, now I'm a Muslim, and I'm forever grateful for this blessing.

[feral river]

yes you are right the media always focus on one single point that depict the whole thing is a bad or good.

[thorny steeple]

so, do you take it back?

[feral river]

I would like to consider it to take it back until I got some good point about islam

I still didn't find what is the most important thing in Islamic rule

and I think if I promote Islam.... it's possible to be arrested by our government so I'm definitely not going to do that

[thorny steeple]

I guarantee that no point that tries to portray Islam as either terrorist, false, etc... will be to any avail. I've studied Islam and the more I learn about it, the more I realize its resilience basically.

[feral river]

but it's sad to say, ISIS and Taliban still represents a part of Islamic rule

and they did a bad example

it prefectly depicted a single point is "Islam generates terrorist"

It's not my problem I have to say

if you get offended by this sentence, I would like to take it back

[thorny steeple]

ISIS represents no Muslim at all, killing Muslims is strictly forbidden, yet they've killed thousands upon thousands of innocent Muslims.

[feral river]

but they called Islamic State of Iraq and Syria ?

[sharp blaze]

i mean why islam not anyone? jews kill innocents too but nobody's looking lol

[sharp blaze]

do we see them as muslims? You should be asking that

[feral river]

and they controlled almost a territory as large as a britain

until the US started invasion and destoryed the ISIS

[sharp blaze]

[broken birch]

Bruh

[sharp blaze]

isis still exists

[thorny steeple]

just because they call themselves as such, doesn't mean they represent Islam, they represent nothing but themselves, and they've spread Fitna in the whole Islamic world.

[lusty zenith]

Always an argument about religions in #🧠｜serious-chat

[broken birch]

I want to know exactly how you are calling them Muslims

[sharp blaze]

Fr

[feral river]

It's really confusing about religious thing

sick

[thorny steeple]

you happen to witness only that, but there are other topics that we usually fight upon also. xD
just kidding, we don't fight, I usualy have good and civil discussions with people here.

[broken birch]

Political topics 🗿

Ill give you and an advice

All if you

Leave this topics and search for the truth in your oun

Don't mislead people or get misleaded by them

[thorny steeple]

Let's talk about gym

[broken birch]

What did you exercised today

[thorny steeple]

CHEST DAY BABY

[lusty zenith]

But how will you feel superior to someone else if you don't insist you're right and they're wrong

[broken birch]

Nice

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/workout-lift-lifting-bodybuilding-gif-11379912

[broken birch]

Leave these topics to the right people who studied or who is connected

[lusty zenith]

I am not educated but I still want to speak

[thorny steeple]

🎙️

[broken birch]

Yeah that's way there are a lot of interesting topics everywhere

[lusty zenith]

Pineapple is good on pizza

[broken birch]

You can fight me in anime like i say goku is stronger than saitama

[thorny steeple]

Pineapple is good

Pizza is bad

[broken birch]

And im right

Who says no

[thorny steeple]

[lusty zenith]

One nourishes the body. The other nourishes the soul

[thorny steeple]

Pizza doesn't nourish me I don't rememeber the last time I had pizza or any fast food for that matter, but I get why people like it

[broken birch]

Its delicious

[lusty zenith]

Damn. So you only eat healthy foods? I mean I can do that too but I'd be craving

[broken birch]

So simple

[lusty zenith]

Chicken breast is yummy though. I eat it almost everyday

[broken birch]

Salmon is good and rises testosterone

[lusty zenith]

But bad for your wallet

[broken birch]

Lol

[thorny steeple]

I understand but I have supressed my cravings to the point I don't have them

[lusty zenith]

Inhuman. Gym rats do be built different. Literally

[craggy sphinx]

Hello, as always, you enchant everything around with your beauty

[lusty zenith]

Omg. Eisan rizz...,.

[jolly agate]

hello

souls

[worn pond]

Greetings, outlander

[jolly agate]

Greeting

[worn pond]

How goes it, my fellow?

[jolly agate]

Im doing good,

how are you doing

[worn pond]

I'm doing good as well

@jolly agate whatcha doin today?

[jolly agate]

Im playing this game called "Bloons TD 6"

[jolly agate]

it's kind fun.

[obtuse perch]

This is not hypocrisy?

[lusty zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/bloons-btd6-btd-bloon-balloons-gif-20551051

[broken birch]

I like this game

[formal scaffold]

Depends on how much money you give me.

[obtuse perch]

FR

[broken birch]

Lol

[civic reef]

100%

this is what i value about it, i can do whatever the heck i want

[thorny steeple]

hii

[smoky inlet]

Hi

[lusty zenith]

Nerd

[clear oasis]

hey guys

Can anyone explain this sentence

It has been a long time since we were apart, I did not recognize her.

[civic reef]

I am glad you introduced yourself. And so it happens that i am a nerd too

[oak glacier]

Easy

[dreamy pawn]

how to unblock myself from a server?

[sharp blaze]

unbanned?

just make New account and use vpn

All solved

[sharp blaze]

They havent met for a long time and he forgot his friend's face

[craggy sphinx]

shh....

[craggy sphinx]

hello

1)when he/she was apart for a long time, one of them became aware of his partner.this means that he/she did not understand the partner when they were in a relationship, maybe the separation revealed the true nature🙂
2)after a long separation, he/she didn't recognize the partner. This could happen due to a long absence, perhaps there were external or internal changes
3)They were nostalgic for those times together.

[craggy sphinx]

hello

[thorny steeple]

hi

[violet peak]

@neon sierra

ne diyorduk

heh Kürdistan yok kardeşim benim

Türk ve Kürt kardeştir evet ama Kürtlerin Kürdistan istemeyenleri kardeştir

Türkiyenin toprak bütünlüğünü lütfen öğren

Toprağınız YOK

Ya

[zealous egret]

öyle bir sey mi var amk Kürdün yaşadığı yer sonuç olara Kürdistan olur istan eki Farsça da çoğunluk olarak belirtilir yani Kürtlerin yaşadığı yer

[violet peak]

Türkiyede
Irakta
Iranda
Toprağınız yok

[zealous egret]

senin bahsettiğin ayrı bir yönetim biçimi ise buna lafım yok fakat bilimsel olarak istan eki bu anlama gelir

[violet peak]

Senin bu diyişinle o zaman Doğu türkistanda var

[zealous egret]

var zaten

[violet peak]

Tataristanda var Bavaryada var

[violet peak]

Ülke nerede?

Ülke yok???

[zealous egret]

ülke ile devlet farklı şeyler

[violet peak]

kendilerini yönetecek
kendilerince başkan seçecek
Demokrasi yok?!?!

Uygurlar komunizm altında yaşıyor

[zealous egret]

bahsettiğin şey devlet anlayışı

[violet peak]

özerk bölge ile Ülke bambaşka şeyler

ben Kürdistan göremiyorum?

[zealous egret]

eğer bir halk bir coğrafya ile özdeşleşmiş ve coğrafyaya öz kültürünü kazandırmış ise o topraklar onun ülkesi, vatanıdır

[zealous egret]

bak hala kıt beyinli gibi aynı şeyi tekrar ediyorsun dostum

bana attığın şey Türkiye Cumhuriyeti'nin haritası

[violet peak]

senin bu diyişinle Rusya şuanda 9483 parçaya ayırılmış

[violet peak]

evet peki buradaki Doğu Illerde Kürdistan nerde?

[merry grove]

Selam

Arkadaşlar

[zealous egret]

Kürdün yaşadığı yer Kurdistandir mantık olarak

[violet peak]

Devlet yok
Demokrasi yok
Türkiye içinde yaşıyorlar o kürtler

[merry grove]

KÜRDİSTAN diye bir yer yok beni çıldırtmayın

[violet peak]

Miro

[zealous egret]

Türkiye Cumhuriyeti içinde yaşıyorlar ama Kürtler sonuç olarak

[violet peak]

Bak senin dediğin şey "özerk bölge" kardeşim

[merry grove]

Eeeee

Türk sınıfı içindeler

[zealous egret]

özerk bölge yarı devlet yapısıdır Kürtlerin Türkiye'de böyle bir yapısı yok

[violet peak]

evet kürtler tabikide kürtler ben buna birşey demedim Kürtler Türktür diye birşey demedim AMA ÜLKE YOK DEMOKRASI YOK HIÇBIRŞEYLERI YOK
Türkiyede yaşıyorlar
Iranda yaşıyorlar
IRAKTA YAŞIYORLAR

[merry grove]

Neticede Türkler

[violet peak]

Anla şunu?!?

[zealous egret]

ben de bunu inkar etmedim ama sonuç olarak Kürtlerin çoğunluk olarak yaşadıkları yer etnik Kürdistandir

Türklerin ağırlıklı yaşadıkları yer turkistandir

[merry grove]

Kürdistan arayan 🇮🇶’a

[violet peak]

Orada türk kanunları geçer
Türkiyenin dedikleri geçer.

Türkiye meclisinin dediiği geçer

kendilerinin meclisleri yok

[merry grove]

Türkler her yerdedir

[zealous egret]

ben kanundan falan bahsetmedim dostum okumuyor musun yazdıklarımı bana hala devlet yapısından bahsediyorsun

[violet peak]

okuyuorum

[zealous egret]

ben sana etnik coğrafyadan vs bahsediyorum sen bana meclis kanun diyorsun

[violet peak]

ama eğer senin dediğin şeyle haraket edersek o zaman çin 99257425 parçaya ayırılmış
ABD 50 parçaya ayırılmıştır

[merry grove]

Kürtlerin kendi dili kendi temsili bayrakları olması mecliste partileri olması hiç bir şey ifade etmez

[violet peak]

Sen şey demiyor musun bana: Etnik köken yerlerinde yaşayan çoğunluk halk

[merry grove]

Burası “Türk”iye Cumhuriyeti

[violet peak]

Iran doesn't supports kurdistan as a Independent country.

[merry grove]

Türkiyede yaşayan herkes Türk”.”

[violet peak]

git o zaman

[merry grove]

Tamam bb

[violet peak]

şuanda kullandığın para birimi Türk lirası söyleyeyim

Kürt lirası yok

[merry grove]

😂😂😂 yarıldım mk

[violet peak]

... orada Iranin sözü geçer biliyor muydun?

[merry grove]

Evet bu konuda haklısın 45.000.000’u Türk

Azerbaycan türkü, Türkmen vs…

[violet peak]

eğer bu mantıkla gidersek Şu anda Misak-I-Milli hatta TURAN kurulmuştu

[merry grove]

Ben İran’ı severim zaten

Sadece yönetimini sevmiyorum çünkü şeriatı doğru uygulamıyorlar

Farslarıda seviyorum

[zealous egret]

evet bahsettiğim şey bu ki bunda bir yanlış yok devletin resmi sayımına göre Kürtlerin çoğunlukta yaşadığı yerler belirlidir. Kaldı ki tarih boyunca Kürtler bu coğrafyada yaşamışlar ama şu an bir devletleri yok. Türkiye Cumhuriyeti altında yaşamaları demek türk kanunu altında yaşamaları, türk parası kullanmaları ve bulundukları toprakları Türklerin yönetmesi demektir fakat etno coğrafya olarak orası hala Kürdistan yani Kürtlerin yaşadığı yerdir eğer bunu değiştirmek istiyorsanız her kürdü sınır dışı etmeniz veya oraya çoğunluk olarak Türkleri yerleştirip bir kaç yüzyıl beklemeniz gerek

[merry grove]

Kurulması lazım zaten

[zealous egret]

bahsettiğin sey Türklerin siyasi birliği olan turandir benim bahsettiğim şey siyasetten uzak bir şey

[merry grove]

Kendini Türk kabul eden Türkiye’den başka devlet tanımayan Kürtleri severim

[merry grove]

Bir de Kürtçe konuşamaz toplum içinde

Evet

[zealous egret]

hadi ya:D

[violet peak]

evet bunda haklısın ama oraya "kürdistan" değil Kürtlerin çoğunlukla yaşadığı yerler denir "kürdistan" daha çok bir ülkedir

yani Ülke Ismi var

[merry grove]

Var öyle Kürtler bizim sınıfta Kürtçe bilen

[violet peak]

abartma kanka sende

Kriyakos abartma olm :D

[merry grove]

Toplum içinde konuşamazlar bu böyle

[bronze oxide]

toplum içinde kimin hangi dil konuşacağına devlet karışamaz. dil sınırı belli yerlerde vardır, devlet kurumları gibi

[zealous egret]

ben kemalist arkadaşlarımla da Kürtçe konuşurum annemle de babamla da rahatsız olan varsa gelip bana danışabilir ama çok umursayacagimi sanmam çünkü sonuç olarak böyle bir hak devlet tarafından tanınmış

[violet peak]

Türklerin içinde tabikide konuşamazlar

Aile içinde konuşurlar

[merry grove]

Tamam işte ben de bunu kastediyorum okuduğunu anlaman var mı

[bronze oxide]

bir şeyi savunurken başka bir şeyi aşağılayamaz ya da ötekileştiremezsiniz

[violet peak]

ama eğer dışardaysa ve bir arkadaşı ile konuşuyorsa arkadaşıda Kürtçe biliyorsa konuşurlar

[merry grove]

Kendi aralarında gerekirse Arapça konuşsunlar banane

[violet peak]

real

[zealous egret]

İstan eki Farsça da o anlama geliyor zaten ülke ve devletin farklı şeyler olduğunu söylemiştim fakat istan eki devlet icin kullanılmaz

[merry grove]

İstanbul Farsçada yer demek

Bende biliyorum bunu

[violet peak]

benim savunduğum Ülke olmaması Kürdistan diye bir yer yok (Ülke olarak)

[merry grove]

Yani doğru diyon

[violet peak]

tabikide kürtler var ve çoğunluk yaşadığı yerler: doğu Illeri

kürt arkadaşlarım bile var

[zealous egret]

dediğin şey olması için Kürtlerin yüzyıllar boyunca çoğunluk olmadan farklı yerlerde yaşaması demek

[merry grove]

Kamu alanlarında konuşamazsın

[violet peak]

onlar kürdistani savunmuyorlar tabikide (Ülke olarak)

[zealous egret]

yoo baya baya konuşuyorum .d

[violet peak]

öyle zaten Ülkeleri yok

[bronze oxide]

ülkeleri türkiye

[zealous egret]

o zaman etnik coğrafya bilmiyorsun dostum ne diyeyim

[merry grove]

Sonra polis ifadeni almak için gelirse ansızın şaşma

[violet peak]

Ya ÜLKE ÜLKE Ülke ve Etnik coğrafya farklı şeyler

Senin dediğin çoğunlukla yaşayan yerler (sözel)

[violet peak]

EVET

[merry grove]

Tamam biz de diyoruz ki türkiyede öyle bir bölge de coğrafyada eyalette il de yok

[zealous egret]

özel harekat akrabalarım var çok güzel Kürtçe konuşurlar da toplumu bolmekten az ülkücü paket etmedik

[violet peak]

Bende onu diyorum? Ama farklı şekilde
Kürdistan yerine "Kürtlerin çoğunlukla yaşadığı yer" diyorum Aynı şey ama farklı kelimeler

bu demek oluyorki bir türk ile konuşuyorsan Kürtçe konuşumazsın çünkü karşındaki kişi kürtçe bilmiyor

[bronze oxide]

insanlar için mazlar mezler ekleriyle konuşmamalısınız.

[violet peak]

etmiyor işte

Iran ve Irakta var

[zealous egret]

adam 10bin yıllık Kürt ırkını iki kelimeyle yok etti sen ne diyon abla ya

yasamasalardi orası Kürdistan olmazdı zaten

[merry grove]

Türkiye sınırı içinde yaşayan Kürtlerin ırkı Kürt ulusu Türk’tür. Onlarda Türk kanı akmaktadır. Ne mutlu TÜRK’üm diyene!

[violet peak]

arkadaşlar şimdi benim dediğim şeyi uzunca anlatıcam

[merry grove]

Değil mi arkadaşlar

[bronze oxide]

ıraktan mı bahsediyorsun

[zealous egret]

kanka sen üniversiteye geçip büyüyünce konuşalım tekrar bu konuları provokeye devam et o zamana kadar

[violet peak]

Kriyakos ve benim dediğim şey: Kürdistan diye bir Ülke yoktur ama Türkiye Irak Suriye Iranda Kürtlerin çoğunlukla yaşadığı yerler vardır oralar ise kürtlere göre "kürdistan" dır
evet tabikide oralar var ve kürtler orada yaşıyorlar ama Ülkeleri yok YOK.
Devlet anlayışlarıda yok. Lütfen anlayın
kürtlerin çoğunlukla yaşadığı yer "kürdistan" diyorsanız sizin kararınız
ben kürtlerin çoğunlukla yaşadığı yelrere "Kürtlerin genelde yaşadığı yerler" derim.

[formal scaffold]

Durdur İngilizce Kullan

[zealous egret]

iste senin Kürtlerin çoğunlukla yaşadığı yerler dediğin şeyin sonuna iranî halklar istan ekliyor

[violet peak]

Aynı şeyi temsil ediyorsa Birşey değişmez

[zealous egret]

dediklerimiz arasında fark yok ama siz ülke ve devlet arasındaki farkı anlamıyorsunuz

ikisi farklı şeyler

[violet peak]

Devlet anlayışı ve Ülke farklı şeyler zaten

cowlii sen benim ne dediğimi anladın di mi?

[zealous egret]

ülke bir ırkın öz yurdudur örneğin turklerin Orta Asyalı olması gibi

devlet ise belirli sınırları olan toprakları yönetim biçimidir

[merry grove]

@violet peak az evvelki mesajını silmeseydin keşke tam okuyordum

[violet peak]

silmedim la

[bronze oxide]

its enough ig guys

[merry grove]

Uzun bişi yazmıştın

[violet peak]

Hayır kürtçe konuş sadece türklerin yanında konuşma lütfen Türkler Kürtçe bilmiyor çünkü

[violet peak]

mute yedikten sonra silmişlerdir bilmiyom

[merry grove]

Kamuda konuşamazsın. Aile içinde konuşabilirsin. Anadilinin Türkçe olduğu gerçeğini reddedemezsin.

[zealous egret]

biz Türklerle Kürtçe konuşmuyoruz zaten Fransız biriyle İspanyolca konuşmak gibi fakat diğer arkadaşın bahsettiği şey ev dışında bir yerde konuşamazsin

[violet peak]

ona katılmam

[bronze oxide]

ana dili kürtçe ikinci dili türkçe

[zealous egret]

Anadilim Kürtçe dostum doğduğumdan beri ilk öğrendiğim dil Kürtçe baska diller bilmeme engel değil ve devletin bana tanıdığı hakkı senin benden almak gibi bir şansın yok bu yüzden ağlayarak günlüğüne yazabilirsin.

[merry grove]

tamam ama Türkiye Cumhuriyetinin yegane resmi dili Türkçe. Kürtçe ve başka hiç bir dil bugüne kadar hiç olmadığı gibi bundan sonrada olmayacak.

[zealous egret]

resmi dil ile ilgili hiçbir şey geçmedi sen ana dilden bahsettin ve ben de ana dilimi söyledim

[merry grove]

Evet ama şu an resmi dilden bahsettim.

Neyse mutabık kaldıysak Kürdistan diye bir yerin türkiyede olmadığı be olmayacağı konusunda ne mutlu bize.

[zealous egret]

kimse resmi dili inkar etmiyor zaten kimse gerizekalı değil başka insanlarla anlaşmak için türkçe,ingilizce, arapça, Fransızca öğreniyoruz

[merry grove]

Farsçada çok mühim

Her türkün ve Kürtün bilmesi lazım

İki dilde de bir yığın Farsça kelime var

Zenginliğimizi Farsçaya borçluyuz

Gerçi Öz Türkçeyi kaybetmeseydik öyle olmayacaktı

Göktürkler zamanından bahsediyorum

[zealous egret]

Kürtçe bilimse olarak Farsçadan çok daha eski bir dil Farsçadaki çoğu kelime de Kürtçeden geçmiştir

Med imparatorluğunu araştırabilirsin

Resmi dili Kürtçeydi sonuç olarak

[violet peak]

Selam geldim

[merry grove]

Kürtçe yapısı bakımından zengin bir dil aslında ama

Farsça bana daha çekici geliyor

[merry grove]

Hoşgeldin

[violet peak]

Hoşbldm

[broken birch]

I have just finished my pre-applying test for university

Cuz it was easy

[violet peak]

This is so serious.

[broken birch]

I feel so comfortable

[broken birch]

You don't know how serious I was before the test

[violet peak]

real :(

[deep nacelle]

Hello I am new

New on sever

[abstract swift]

hi

[deep nacelle]

Why everyone is so surprised to see a old account?

I am not old

[abstract swift]

hello

probs to the SERVER

🤣

was the difference between the role booster and server booster?

[deep nacelle]

@neon sierra its okay

@abstract swift hello

[abstract swift]

booster

server booster

yes but what about just booster

theres 2 booster roles

brb maybe

[limpid merlin]

Hello!

[upbeat slate]

hey

[obtuse perch]

bonsoir

[upbeat slate]

comment tu ca va ?

[limpid merlin]

are you from France?

[obtuse perch]

and now ur speaking french

[obtuse perch]

no fake french

[limpid merlin]

ah, ok. But where are you from?

[obtuse perch]

morocco wbu?

[limpid merlin]

Poland @obtuse perch

[upbeat slate]

je ne suis pas stupid
c'est pourqoi jai dis que je deteste frencais

[upbeat slate]

why u didnt say it from first

[obtuse perch]

https://tenor.com/view/lewy-lewangoalski-robert-lewandowski-lewandowski-fcb-gif-20687830

[upbeat slate]

slave ha

[obtuse perch]

thats all wahat ik abou poland

[obtuse perch]

ok

[limpid merlin]

oooo, Lewandowski, nice 🙂

[obtuse perch]

u dont ask

[obtuse perch]

all what ik

[upbeat slate]

7it hsabliya men franca

[upbeat slate]

me 2

[limpid merlin]

This is enough I think xD

[obtuse perch]

o 3laxe makat7mlxe nas dyale franca

[obtuse perch]

wbu wht do uk about morocco?

[limpid merlin]

To be honest - nothing. Maybe some about special patterns

[obtuse perch]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-hmm-shookt-shocked-woah-gif-17619735

join us here #💭｜general @limpid merlin

[upbeat slate]

7it fach knt kant3alme logha ma3andi 7ta tajriba zwina m3ahom
h7ta db fach knt kan9sr league of legends knt ch7al mn mara kandwz tajarib zwinin m3a nas mn bzf lboldan b7al almanya wlkin 3mrni l9it chi 7d mn fransa mzn

[obtuse perch]

almaniya rah nshom zoma7

[upbeat slate]

kifach zoma7 ?

[obtuse perch]

GAYS

[upbeat slate]

awdiiiiiii, ghi khali 3la lah

[feral river]

oh I’m sorry do you actually mean 50 bucks instead of 5 bucks ?

[thorny steeple]

Ukraine must win

[serene birch]

During World War II, Ukraine was occupied by Nazi Germany. The Red Army of the Soviet Union initiated a major counterattack in the years 1943-1944 to drive the Nazis out of Ukraine. As a result of these attacks, various regions of Ukraine were liberated at different times.

For example, Kiev was retaken by the Red Army on November 6, 1943. The areas around the Dnipro River were also liberated in 1943. However, Nazi occupation persisted for a longer period in some regions, and the western regions of Ukraine, especially cities like Lviv (Lwów) and Ternopil, were liberated by Soviet forces in 1944.

In general, different regions of Ukraine were gradually liberated from Nazi occupation between 1943 and 1944. The exact dates varied depending on specific regions and fronts.

I never take sides in political events, but I always question this. It is very interesting that a society from the same clan that sacrificed its life for the integrity of a country(Ukraine) is now a pawn against its savior.

If the Soviet Union had cooperated with Nazi Germany, not only Ukraine but many other countries would not exist today.

Today, there is a new reformed Nazi campaign, the colour of the flag has changed to blue instead of red, still the same cross, and the logic is still the same, to expand, impose its presence and mainly exploit.

As long as human beings admire and are influenced by flags, symbols and individual ideas rather than the existence of human beings, the same movies will be experienced over and over again. Instead of clustering and organizing, we should give up these loves. Real life is not a football match. Many people are dying. The worst thing is innocent children. One of them could be your or me or our any family members.

[formal scaffold]

maybe it's made with wordpress :/, or he just wants to build his portfolio

[carmine wasp]

hello

[lavish finch]

Must it?

They seem already to have lost.

I work with Ukrainian refugees as my full time job.

We provide assistance for those who have come to the US.

The US, who until recently insisted that they must win, have suddenly dropped them completely.

The Ukrainian people were used and discarded.

100,000’s of thousands of lives were wasted for nothing

I am Ukrainian. My own family was forced to go into hiding.

I am not impressed by outsiders who insist that Ukrainians must throw their lives away.

People who won’t be at any risk personally bravely volunteering others to die.

[serene birch]

This is exactly the job of every politician in the world.

[thorny steeple]

Are you Ukrainian?

[thorny steeple]

The thing is white people kill each other. Russia started this war against ordinary civilians.

[jolly agate]

everyone kills everyone

no exception

[serene birch]

A small reason is enough

[thorny steeple]

The Russian totalitarian regime needs to be dismantled anyways

[jolly agate]

even without reason

[thorny steeple]

Ukrainians don’t have other options but win. They cannot give up any territories. Russia started to kill white people. That’s why the US and Europa should help Ukraine to win

[serene birch]

I thing this is due to the expansion policy of NATO, which Russia sees as modern Nazism, and there are many young Nazi Sympathizers in Ukraine. And no one wants nuclear warheads next to their country.
Think about it, Russia is coming, taking Mexico into its union and putting nuclear warheads towards the border of America. Would America allow this? Why should Russia?

The problem is that people always look at the situation from one side.

[thorny steeple]

The US must help because they have an impact on every single country on the planet. They are a hegemon, hence, they have to influence on others

[serene birch]

Oh god! I dont wanna live anymore xD

[jolly agate]

Us has done enough destruction already

[thorny steeple]

So they have the right to interfere with the policies of an independent country and invade it?

[thorny steeple]

We are not talking about this

[serene birch]

Tell me how many countries invaded by usa.

[thorny steeple]

No. Stop. We are not talking about this

[jolly agate]

Im not wrong though

[serene birch]

yeah yeah we are exactly talking about this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War it is tarted almost 10 years ago not 2-3 years ago

[thorny steeple]

No. You are moving forward that sort of discourse as their policies and invasions around the world. We are talking particularly about Ukraine and its conflict with Russia.

We need to consolidate that fact that the US is already a hegemon that’s it

[jolly agate]

If Ukraine had not been so persistent into joining NATO, lives might not have been lost.

US knew

excatly what it was doing

[serene birch]

Yes, Russia and China see NATO as Nazi.

From their perspective, they are right and they threaten their sovereignty.

[jolly agate]

they had the option to say "no" to Ukrain. And that would prevent those great casualties.

[thorny steeple]

If Iraq hadn’t raised terrorists in the region, then the US would’ve not invaded Iraq

[serene birch]

dude biggest terorrist is USA army

[jolly agate]

army is just a great puppet

[thorny steeple]

So you do endorse Russian actions in this conflict?

[serene birch]

There is no country that has not been stirred up by making excuses for 100 years.

America comes first in the list of the world's biggest threats.

🙂

[sturdy summit]

recently, president Putin has some issues with Finland joining NATO

[jolly agate]

here we go

[thorny steeple]

Because they are a hegemon

[finite pecan]

I hate myself⚙️⚙️

[jolly agate]

because they are a powerhouse

[thorny steeple]

They need to influence on others in order to be on the top and sustain their state

[serene birch]

That's what nobody wants.

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[serene birch]

We are humans, not animals. No need for alpha.

[thorny steeple]

If you had the same chance to create a state like the American people have done, you would do the same as they are doing now.

They live much more good than any other country in the world. They are the biggest economy and the county with relatively real freedom

[serene birch]

Yes, there is the blood of an Arab in every food you eat and in every car you drive.

from who?

[jolly agate]

They will fall eventually.

[thorny steeple]

All of you are envious of their privileges. But if you had the chance… you would do exactly the same in order to live free and good

[serene birch]

Let's not forget what NATO member Germany did before.

[thorny steeple]

No. Such a country like Russia will ultimately fall apart

[serene birch]

Don't look for the enemy far away, it's near you.

[jolly agate]

Us has given enough freedom to their people.

[serene birch]

When Russia falls apart, America's existence won't either 😄

[thorny steeple]

To their own people*

Freedom of speech exists only in the US

[jolly agate]

illusion of freedom

[thorny steeple]

No

That’s actually not

[serene birch]

I think you should act with real information, not with the information you hear from TV and media.

[jolly agate]

can you say anything about "lgbtq"

[thorny steeple]

Read what the first amendment means and how it worked throughout history

[serene birch]

this is reality

[thorny steeple]

Yes you can

[serene birch]

no

Each of these is a threat to my existence.

[thorny steeple]

You do not get the difference between freedom from state and from private ownership

[jolly agate]

may be in your house. definitely not in public

you will get unnessery hate

[thorny steeple]

What? Yeah you will

I’m not talking about that

You will not be punished by the government!

By the government the main thing here

[serene birch]

I am against all states. If I had the chance, I would destroy them all. Because each of them truly threatens my existence.

[thorny steeple]

You’ll not get penalized for your thoughts and words

[jolly agate]

i think you can fix that without distroying anything

[serene birch]

Yes, I have a fantasy to establish Skynet.

[jolly agate]

that aint freedom aint it

[thorny steeple]

It is freedom

[jolly agate]

illusion

[serene birch]

It's time for mechanics...

[thorny steeple]

Where are you from?

[jolly agate]

why does it matter

[thorny steeple]

It’s important

How environment impacts on your opinion

[serene birch]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-2-judgement-day-gif-10161030357565038980

[jolly agate]

they say they are free. but you cant say or do evrything you wanna do, if you go agaisnt what they belive in, they punish you. hate you criticize you. etc

[thorny steeple]

If you were from Afghanistan for example, Ill be wondering what your thought would be

[thorny steeple]

It’s exactly like the values of the Arab world

[jolly agate]

yeah but thats only half

[jolly agate]

no counties are actually free

[serene birch]

https://tenor.com/view/talibanada-verbena-pakitochocolatero-gif-22714445

they looks enjoying

[jolly agate]

they have build different systems to keep people in control

[thorny steeple]

That makes sense