🧠｜serious-chat

[serene birch]

or the people who speak on god's behalf.

[white shard]

An omnipotent and omnipresent being cares about something like "stupid people"

Like you?

Because you just did

[serene birch]

I don't think he cares about any of us, give up on this dream.

[white shard]

you are so confusing

I dont think you follow your own thoughts

[serene birch]

I think you have always seen ordinary thoughts. You've never witnessed rational thoughts.

[white shard]

Bye

[serene birch]

bye brother

[amber perch]

hello, guys. I'm looking for a friend in the US, FL.

[vocal hearth]

nuggets

[thorny steeple]

thanks for u reply

[jolly agate]

thats the whole point of randomness that it cant be pridected. if it can be pridected then it no longer is random.

however

if i assume god is all knowing l. That he knows everything then randomness may not even exist for him.

not everything

[jolly agate]

not everthing

[thorny steeple]

just the average unhinged god debate. It's cringe, he doesn't exist, boom

[median swift]

You guys are entitled to your own opinions! While I am not to participate in this debate, do not go thinking that evangelism is convincing others to believe in your beliefs!

[abstract cypress]

hey now not all gods are bad, dionysius he's just wanna party

[hallow edge]

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/armenia-azerbaijan-announce-deal-exchange-pows-work-peace-105477766

[jolly agate]

is it for me??

[craggy sphinx]

Hello beings of the highest light

[jolly agate]

this new discord update looks elegant

[deep loom]

Is that the case for everyone or does it get any better based on their career?

Like for example does it get any easier for medical graduates and iits?

[gleaming roost]

Hi

I am new to english

I am A3 level

[deep loom]

That's informative
Thanks.

[serene birch]

prove

[jolly agate]

2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 19, 20 follow the patran and guess the next number

[serene birch]

You even presented this evidence in a random way.

[jolly agate]

nope

[serene birch]

Out of all the tons of evidence you could present, this one came across.

Even what you are reject now, you randomly rejecting it.

[jolly agate]

and even if it is the evidence it self follows a certain pattran that is not random

thus

everything thing isnt random

[serene birch]

You make believe it's not random, but it is random.

[jolly agate]

how is a pattran random.

random is something that can be pridected while pattran follows a certin order which is pridecatable.

[serene birch]

I just woke up randomly, came here randomly, and I'm randomly talking to you. While there are millions of different possibilities to do.

There are no rules in randomness, everything happens randomly, even this universe came into existence randomly.

[jolly agate]

explain times table then

[craggy sphinx]

do it

[jolly agate]

why there are pridecatable

[serene birch]

It is the continuation of randomly existing phenomenon and its mechanism works on randomness.

[jolly agate]

prove the pattrans are unpridctable

[serene birch]

pattrans?

[jolly agate]

ye

[serene birch]

I dont know what it is

[jolly agate]

you grow old is random or it follows a certain pattran

[serene birch]

pattern?

[jolly agate]

ye

[serene birch]

Did this universe come into existence randomly or after a certain decision?

[jolly agate]

what does universe have to do with my example

you trying to ignore my evidence

and changing the topice

[serene birch]

Because everytthing starts with that.

[jolly agate]

i thought they all starts with god

[serene birch]

In order to make the analysis more clearly, we need to start from the beginning.

[jolly agate]

god is the beginning hows that

now prove why table are random

[serene birch]

So, did God come into existence randomly or through a certain decision phase?

[jolly agate]

god isnt the topice

its is wheter everything is random or not

i say not everything is random

while you say everything is random

drop a apple it is bound to go down

[serene birch]

But in order to analyze something very well, we need to go to the begining.

[jolly agate]

why because or gravity

[serene birch]

If something started randomly, the continuation process will work the same way.

[jolly agate]

if i gave you 2 apple and statrs giveinf yiu 2 apple every day for 365 days. you would be able to pricect how many apples you will have on the 365th day

it is not rantom

[serene birch]

Just because you decide in this process does not mean that you have changed the randomness. Again, the process continues in the same way.

[jolly agate]

it follows a pattran

[jolly agate]

i not denying the randomness

all im saying is not evetthing is random

[serene birch]

pfffff

I'm out

[jolly agate]

it was bound to happen.

[serene birch]

kk

you are right

[jolly agate]

duh im

[formal scaffold]

Everything is random in what?

The police arrested me for stealing idk if that's random

Can u give context?

[formal scaffold]

If it follow a pattern is it really random?

Maybe u mean smth else

[jolly agate]

it is as it sounds anthing that has a pattran isnt random because it can be pridected.

[jolly agate]

i dont think thats random. the police must have arrested you for stealing at an unpridecitable time. but thats their job to catch the prople who steal.

[jolly agate]

you broke into a jewerlly store and stole bunch of neckless.

[formal scaffold]

It'll be random if there's a possibility where they help me steal another shop

Everything is random if there's no free will .. action ... reaction

[jolly agate]

prove times table are wrong.

[jolly agate]

prove that example is wrong

[formal scaffold]

Did it happen before?

Are u talking about possibilities? Or everything in this world?

If you accept the existance of impossibilities then is everything random after that?

[jolly agate]

its an relaistic situation.

[jolly agate]

not everything

[formal scaffold]

If i slap u will u dance for me?

[jolly agate]

randomness and impossibility are distinct concepts.

[formal scaffold]

Youll probably punch me back

[jolly agate]

i woundnt do anything.

[formal scaffold]

That's called reaction

And the randomness u thinking about is part of domino effect

[jolly agate]

ok

i wanna ask you something

[formal scaffold]

Combination between the 3 action reaction and free will

[jolly agate]

tell me everthing you understands form my words.

[formal scaffold]

At first you were claiming everything is random

[jolly agate]

i wasnt

when did i even said that

[jolly agate]

it was the other guy

[formal scaffold]

That my saying dont steal it xd

[jolly agate]

my guy misread

[formal scaffold]

I typed it after u asked

Chill

[jolly agate]

??

[formal scaffold]

U claimed everything was eandom provided somde examples n counter example than you said maybe not everything is random

[jolly agate]

thsi is me

[formal scaffold]

Wanna add anything?

[jolly agate]

and this is the guy you are talking about

[formal scaffold]

Okey got u

[jolly agate]

can you replay to that message where i claimed everything is random

[formal scaffold]

I think i missread it thus why i asked first

Let me adjust that

[jolly agate]

go ahead

[formal scaffold]

@serene birch everything ain't random i think, wanna check out why i think that? Check my misunderstanding above

[formal scaffold]

I do apologize for misreading you bro

[jolly agate]

i dont mind.

[formal scaffold]

What do you think about destiny?

[jolly agate]

it is inevitable

[serene birch]

I look at the big picture, not the small picture.

I dont have time sorry

[formal scaffold]

Its aight god bless

[serene birch]

Thank you, god bless you too..

[jolly agate]

anyone can look at the bigger picture but only few who can see the beauty in the small one

[formal scaffold]

Bigger or small, from any angle, its refreshing hearing other ideas than yr own

[serene birch]

This dude is right about everything.

[stark meteor]

Can anyone tell
How to bypass the location based attendance system
If morph location is detected by the system

[echo sorrel]

I haven't seen technology like that so I can't help you.

[stark meteor]

@thorny steeple I'm not that IT guy...
But it will detect if I use any kind of morph location app which works fine in other apps.....

Like snap or even Google maps

I kinda found a solution on torr
But it's by
Rooting I don't want to root my device if you have any idea let me know @thorny steeple

Any if any intelligent geek is here pls help ?!?!?? 💕

That's for responding and for help

@thorny steeple if you know anyone let me know

[thorny steeple]

I wouldn't advise you to do that, but it would be incredibly difficult to do so anyway, location-based attendance systems are highly secure and advanced.

what I'm saying is that, it might be impossible to bypass such system.

[stark meteor]

@thorny steeple so if that's not possible is there any alternative idea

[thorny steeple]

well, these type of systems would most probably be tied to your phone GPS. I know this might seem pretty absurd, but you can leave your phone somewhere in the place the system observes, other than that, I don't know.

yes, they are not so effective, especially when the system gets your geolocation based on the GPS and WIFI triangulation combined. some systems would also be able to detect and monitor location anomalies, so they are pretty secure.

it doesn't, if they do not match, then most certainly the device is using a location-spoofer or similar software to distort the location signals or to alter them.

in which case it doesn't go by any location, it would just mark you as absent or throw an alert.

I don't know about it honestly.

I tried to implement a web app with a location-based attendance system, but I suspended the project for the time being, due to college.

[sleek vault]

How to improve vocabulary

[peak fiber]

How to get over career envy?

I applied a funding grant for my work and didn't get any money. Some colleagues got up to 100k euro for a good few years for the same line of work.

||I am so envious imma gonna pop a vein in my head soon||

[craggy sphinx]

[candid knot]

hello.

[thorny steeple]

hi

[candid knot]

how are you?

[thorny steeple]

fine

[jolly agate]

envy will get you nowhere, only desire, dedicatation, and hard work will get you far in life.

if you didnt get any money, dont worry there will be more opporchunity for you in the futre

[craggy sphinx]

Envy can be useful if you know how to direct it in the right direction

for example, it can stimulate you to develop. But it is important not to overuse it, if you turn it into hatred or anger, it will be useless and you will have wasted your time

[jolly agate]

it then again it depends on how you use you emotions. do u control your emotions our you let your emotions control you.

[craggy sphinx]

yes, but control may not always be useful

Stoicism can be helpful, but not always. You may spend more energy trying to control your emotions.

if you have the opportunity not to restrain your emotions and it will not affect the external environment, then you don’t have to restrain them. This will help you relax and reduce stress

[compact forge]

(Continued from general chat) The best thing I could think of (as a person with no personal stakes, so this is obviously oversimplified and not taking into account the emotions that are running high between both sides) is a completely combined state in which Palestinians and Israelites come together to make a new state. Would this ever happen? No, as there is decades of animosity between the two sides that can’t simply be erased. And will never be erased

[craggy sphinx]

nah

[blazing viper]

I can tell you this. We declare Hamas to be terrorists, but the Israeli prisoners released by Hamas do not. Palestinians don't like Israelis because Israelis have killed 100,000 Palestinians for 75 years. But Israelis see Palestinians as animals. Which one do you think is right. Hamas did not intentionally kill any children during the war. Israel continues to deceive people with fake and ridiculous news. However, it seems that everyone is beginning to understand that they are being hemmed

[pearl tinsel]

Hi, What is the best tutorial to improve my English speeking?

[true dome]

Basically to improve ur speaking u should speak with ppl

Anyways shadowing exercises could improve ur fluency a bit

[thorny steeple]

agreed. only justice should be established, once Palestinians get their land back and regain their lost human rights, time will probably heal the wounds.

[formal scaffold]

I'd say let them Zionist kill us all, so that they take on other nations as enemies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z581dbGqr08

Imagine if macron or Jack Shirak weren't presidents

they are abusing the victim card at this point, they dragged elon all the way there to apologize damn

[thorny steeple]

Use LingQ App or on website and transalte while you read and listen to the podcasts

[native birch]

Hello, I am A -000 level in English. I don't know if there is anyone who can help me. I even translate this from Google. If anyone can help me, please contact me privately.
​

[spare knot]

is there anyone here who has graduated from communication studies? or anyone who is familiar with Roland Barthes theory about semiotics? I have a difficulty to apply it in real research so I'm looking for someone to discuss about it with me. Hope someone willing to help

[thorny steeple]

Hello guys wish you are good

Please someone tell me what is different btw:
A.m
P.m
In ma country we don't use that for time

[thorny steeple]

🌕 sunrise 🌚sunset , 00:01 comes to be AM , and 12:01 comes to be PM

Am means morning including night since 00:1 to 11:59

And PM means afternoon since 11:59 at 23:59 PM

That's why we say i wake up at 5,6,7,8,9,10,11 AM

[craggy sphinx]

hello. for more infomation - #📚｜english-questions

[thorny steeple]

i think you got the answer, but i am curious how time is measured in your country?

[orchid totem]

[thorny steeple]

hi

[jolly agate]

hello

[thorny steeple]

@jolly agate @thorny steeple Hello guys

Welcome.

I answered all this too late but can be (I hope it's still valid)

[orchid totem]

Hi

[hoary arrow]

Hey

[thorny steeple]

If we forget that all we know?

How can be like this? I guess it wants more and more practice uh

[formal scaffold]

remembering is a much faster process compared to learning don't you think?

[jolly agate]

not always

[jolly agate]

you cant remeber everything.

[formal scaffold]

if you use the same tools you learned with?

[thorny steeple]

I think to remembering is harder than learning

[jolly agate]

both are different.

[thorny steeple]

Cuz you can learn everything but is related to your limbic brain

[jolly agate]

but they somehow related

[formal scaffold]

are you talking about the context we are using?

or are you generalizing

[jolly agate]

nope im talking in gernal

[thorny steeple]

I already know that

[formal scaffold]

yeah we are speaking in a context so

[jolly agate]

well you are wrong then.

they are really related

[formal scaffold]

so you are wrong too ?? he affirmed what you said earlier

[jolly agate]

i did correct my mistake below

[thorny steeple]

[formal scaffold]

well idk about you but remembering is a much easier process than learning ,when I said this I meant using the same resources

[jolly agate]

tell what happend 5 years ago on this same time

[thorny steeple]

In that case sorry cuz i don't get it exactly

[formal scaffold]

read the second sentence

resources

context

[jolly agate]

what do you count as resourse

[formal scaffold]

do you know what we were talking about?

language

[jolly agate]

english

[formal scaffold]

yep

[jolly agate]

yeah and

[formal scaffold]

do you think someone who studied english before compared to somebody who didn't don't have any kind of advantage?

thus remembering, remembering doesn't rely only on memory only, you can use stumulators like courses and classes or convos in this context

depends on the method used

[jolly agate]

you cant remember something unless you have pratice it and learned it

[formal scaffold]

practiced? or practice?

past or present

[jolly agate]

praticed

[formal scaffold]

stimulation happens in present

[jolly agate]

when they already happends they in past

[formal scaffold]

we ventured far from the initial point

stating the obvious xd

[jolly agate]

well thats the beauty of language

or to be precise "words"

[formal scaffold]

i'll see myself out, adios

[thorny steeple]

Someone who studied English before has more advantage than someone who does not know but it is related to practiced before and being used to all he/she knows, right? (For someone who studied and exactly known)

If i wrote false i'm sorry

Really sorry

[jolly agate]

why

[thorny steeple]

Idk

[jolly agate]

dont say sorrry unnessery

[thorny steeple]

I'm afraid of writing false or misunderstanding with someone

[jolly agate]

sometime you may have to

and, no one cares people will forget you even worte something in long enough time frame

[thorny steeple]

You're right

[thorny steeple]

oh, hi

hi

[thorny steeple]

hi guys
will u please fill this form for my english project
https://forms.gle/fWY4moF3EnF2HnHr5

[thorny steeple]

i finished it

thank you, you were a big help

no problem

are you a girl

yes

ok very nice

[craggy sphinx]

Hello beings of the highest light

[main bison]

[jolly agate]

thats not what i would call simping

but it was still funny😂😂

[orchid totem]

Do you think Israel is fascist or a terrorist organization，or Palestine

[formal scaffold]

Israel's government? Zionist movement? jews? israel peace be upon him? which one?

[thorny steeple]

The most important question in universe, all of us is waiting response of this question

[formal scaffold]

depending on that answer we'll have a gazillion timeline

[thorny steeple]

İsreal governmend and state not very apart things

Colonization did not start with Netanyahu

He is only resuming

[formal scaffold]

muhamed al dura, ahmed yacine , yassir arafat

i watched them as a kid I know what you mean

[thorny steeple]

is the boy in your pp elon musk?

[formal scaffold]

yeah

[thorny steeple]

ı suppose he was prohibitting palestıne wıll be free slogan in twitter lol

[formal scaffold]

Yeah bc of the pressure they put on him

[thorny steeple]

buddy this man supported a coup in bolivia

so he could suppport palestine ıf he wanted

he is a very strong man and he is a part of global elite

[formal scaffold]

what about this one?

[thorny steeple]

?

[formal scaffold]

simon kaggwa

[thorny steeple]

ı was not able to understand joke but okey

[novel violet]

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Reason: Posting Discord Server Invites

giola. | 555402042114441217

[craggy sphinx]

Hello beings of the highest light

[serene birch]

Hello from being deepest Darkness

[craggy sphinx]

Do you really not understand what this means?
you weren't there when I explained it?

[tacit sun]

Hi hows u

[craggy sphinx]

I'm great, u?

[tacit sun]

I'm good

[deep loom]

How to get intelligent? (Ways apart from possessing it innately/being born with it.)

[craggy sphinx]

hello
What does "intelligent" mean to you?

why do you need to be intelligent?

[formal scaffold]

i think intellegent is diffrent than clever

[craggy sphinx]

yes, it is a product of the mind

[thorny steeple]

Hey guys

[craggy sphinx]

hello

[thorny steeple]

What's the topic?

[craggy sphinx]

I think I should have defined these concepts right away

[deep loom]

Hi.
Tbh, idek how to define it.

But to consider a person as intelligent, I look for these things.

Like that person has to be a deep thinker, going to the core of everything, like for example something happened, the person would be like, why it happened, how it happened, why not something else couldn't have happened, and more and more spiral thinking.

And also the person has to be an orginal thinker, having orginal opinions (for example most of my opinions are not orginal, I just follow with whatever I'm convinced with.)
But intelligent people seem to have original and innovative thinking patterns.

And they are born that way innately (for example I don't think, now I'm trying to learn how to think, so I'm trying to acquire it, but intelligent people are mostly kinda born with it, they didn't learn how to think but just have it in them.)

They seem different, like their opinions/thinking processes seems very different from ordinary, when I listen to some intelligent, I'll be like, Wow, what a thought, how did they even get that! It's like they get peculiar ways of solutions which are not usually ordinary.

And more... I can't really definitely intelligence/intelligent persons but I think I can recognise them, idek how. I've met few of them, they just seem way out of my league to even understand, predict or classify them.

[formal scaffold]

if you are asking to me I'd have to say the brain capacity to store information, how fast it can reuse them, the ability to absorb information using yr 5 senses, the ability to solve issues relatively to what resources you have, the ability to analyse your surrounding including yourself

[craggy sphinx]

Reception: signalling a reaction to stimuli
Sensation: simulation of receptions
Memorisation: encoding of sensation into a memory
Remembrance: decoding of a memory into sensation
Perception: association of sensations
Association: identifying and thereby relating memories
Conceptualisation: consolidation of associations

Experiences: impressions of perceptions
Sentient: able to experience

Imagination: fabrication of perceptions
Ideas: concepts based on imaginations
Understanding: ideas about the implication of a function
Awareness: understanding of experiences

Thoughts: self-communication of ideas
Consciousness: awareness of thoughts

[deep loom]

As I'm obsessed with it, i always longed to be intelligent.

Because it's like an ever quenching desire within me.

[formal scaffold]

ex: if you stay all your life in a library by yourself just reading all kinds of diffrente book that'll make you a diffrent kind of intellegente compared to somebody who learns from interacting with people and without learning from any book

[deep loom]

This is so interesting. Wow

[formal scaffold]

I would explore more intellegnte field than others, while limiting my intelligence, i think the more intelligent I am the more responsibility I'll have

[main bison]

guys what's happening in palastinan ?
Why don't they stop war?

[deep loom]

That's true
But you'll be informative and knowledgeable.

You're acquiring it.

True intelligent people have originality.

But also some intelligent people could grasp easily and use that knowledge innovatively. (Where normal people fail to use that same knowledge in that peculiar way.)

[deep loom]

This is gold, I'll be mindful of these and thank you so much for sharing.

[formal scaffold]

depends on the approach someone is using while learning books, I can memorize what this author and that author said without criticizing them or trying to understand them completly, and reusing that "knowledge" as a fast way of learning

[craggy sphinx]

No matter how smart you are, you will not stop making mistakes

reading a lot of books will not make you smart if you do it for no reason. If you want to understand well, you should understand this understanding.

Thinking critically is useful because it generates new connections and improved ideas. You can develop this, for example, by playing mind games, participating in discussions.

An important condition for this is your ability to communicate, rather than rhetoric. otherwise you won't learn anything new and will make the same mistakes, wasting your time

[deep loom]

That's great, i sometimes do the same.
Is your short term memory good?

[formal scaffold]

I'm bad with names and appelations, can't distinguish between left and right, but my short memory is good when I'm active

althought it's selective

[deep loom]

Thank you, I'll try to follow these.

Thinking is very different but I'll try to do that and then I'll learn to think critically.

[craggy sphinx]

I don't think reading books will help you with this

[deep loom]

Oh it's alright.
That's great , short term memory is linked to intelligence it seems.

[craggy sphinx]

This is just my opinion, you shouldn't limit yourself to that

[deep loom]

Reading might give you information and knowledge and make you aware and copy the strategies which you've read.

But like how you said critical thinking is more useful as with time that critical thinking might pave path to original thinking, which is what I love.

But practicing both of these would be more beneficial I guess (reading + training to think.)

[deep loom]

It's very useful, I'll explore more sure.
But thanks a lot Eisan for sharing your thoughts and suggestions.

[craggy sphinx]

Practice plays an important role.

Practice can be useless if you repeat it without asking questions. it becomes a habit.

Robots can learn, but we practice

practice is everything

[deep loom]

Wow that's true.

[craggy sphinx]

@ornate siren did the air bite you?

@solar goblet hello

[thorny steeple]

What does this pic represent?

[formal scaffold]

Probably stars .... the expansion of the universe

[serene summit]

Doesn’t it represent space time and how it’s affected by mass of starts?

First picture is the orbit of the sun and its planets around a black hole second is matter falling into a black hole

[formal scaffold]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jolly agate]

if you focous on the tree you will miss the forest behind it.

if you focus on the forest you will miss the mountains behind it

and if you focous on the mountains you will miss the beautifull world that lies beyond mountains.

im not saying you should not focus, rather you should ask your-self 'what then' what would happend once i achived that goal.

look beyond you goal. true wisdome lies beyond that horizon

[jolly agate]

yeah if you reading lots of book for sometime and for no reason will not make you smart, but what happend when you have read over 10,000 books, do you think someone who has read over 10,000 book will be the same as he was when he first started reading, i think he will not.

let me give you another example.
if a perosn goes to the gym for 1 weak. the difference will be barely noticiable, or he may not even notice the difference at all. but what happend when he did the same thing for over 10 so years, do you think he will look the same as he did when he first started. i think answer id "no".

what you saiying isnt wrong, but what im saying is that if something is done for long enough time frame. even without purpose. you will gradually get better at it. it goes with attaning wisdom, getting good physical body, mastering any skill. etc etc.

[civic reef]

humans are capable of learning, so they can notice certain patterns, certain behaviors or relations between things, and then use that to their advantage in a better way, no matter if its reading or programming or math or languages, with enough practice most people can get good at hard things as well, it just sometimes will take a long time for some people, longer than for others, which doesnt make that impossible, they can change too, so i agree

[thorny steeple]

Hi guys, this has nothing to do with past arguments or smth but i have a big issue with my pc, whenever i boot it the 0x0000225 error would come up and i really do not know what to do. I booted up hbcd but i dont know where to put my hands tbh.

[abstract urchin]

I don't think this is the right channel to ask then, there's even slowmode activated here. It is usually used for deep conversations. Try ask that in other channels, meanwhile I try to search for something to help you.

Edit: try reading this https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.easeus.com/amp/computer-instruction/error-code-0xc0000225.html

Question: what did you do before the problem occured? (Like moving the pc, installing stuff, changing settings, deleting some folders, anything that means "changing something"). I would prefer talking in another channel tho

[jolly agate]

you can ask #💻｜programming

[jolly agate]

try that one first

[orchid totem]

[ornate siren]

Yes

[deep loom]

Okay thanks, you're suggesting me to never stop going forth and to never stop setting up goals?

[deep loom]

Love this.

[jolly agate]

did you ask your self, "what the other person could reply". "did you thought what im about the write is it even right?", have i got the correct message the other person is trying to give me.

[deep loom]

I thought others would reply something new, something I don't know yet regarding intelligence, but I also thought they'd say the things which i already know but in a different way with a different perspective.

And yes it had happened, I learnt new things and it gave me motivation to start working on it.

No, I didn't question whether what I've been writing is right or wrong.

If think, I didn't get the correct message the person is trying to convey to me, I'd ask them.
Just like how I asked you.

[jolly agate]

motivation.

fasinating

[jolly agate]

It's like when you're in a forest, don't just stare at one tree look around to see the whole forest. If you only pay attention to the forest, you might not notice the big mountains behind it. And if you're fixated on the mountains, you could miss the amazing world that's even further beyond them. The idea is to think about what happens next after reaching your goal, to see the full picture.

[median swift]

[thorny steeple]

you can not lol

intelligence is not a stuff that you can get after

[deep loom]

Ah got it. I'll be mindful of this.
Thank you.

[deep loom]

Perhaps yes.
Yet, I'm down to try ways out If I could improve it even for like 0.0000001%

[thorny steeple]

what is your jpn

job

I want to learn psychology, could you give me some advice about this domain and i will appreciate it if u recommend to me books to read

[craggy sphinx]

Hello

I don't think you'll get anything useful out of reading for no reason. You will waste your time without gaining anything useful.

instead, you should be asking the question, why am I reading this? what will I get? How can I use this “knowledge”?

repeating the same thing can also be bad, for example, if it concerns practice

you can repeat this many times, it will become a habit. Habit in this case is bad because you are not developing

this is stagnation, you are repeating the same movements over and over again , making the same mistakes there is no benefit from it.

To prevent this from happening, you need to ask questions.

[deep loom]

I'm still studying.

[thorny steeple]

what isyour grade? high school mıddle school unıversıty etc.

[deep loom]

I'm studying 3rd year of medicine and you?

[thorny steeple]

ı am ın unıversıty hıstory department ıf you are studyıng medıcıne ı suppose you do not need to be more intelligent

[hot bison]

That's a bad(terrible) assumption.

[deep loom]

Oh history, that's interesting, i like literature and history.

No, I just happen to be studying it by chance.

Not everyone who's going to be a doctor is smart or intelligent, I'm a good example of that.

[thorny steeple]

okey your choice but as ı said ı do not think that you can improe your ıntellıngence after this age

half of ıntellıngence ıs comıng from genetic and other half is developing with social conditions ın example family

but thıs process is finishing in end of chıldhoood

[hot bison]

The fact is the more you learn the more you know you understand too little. Because you discover vast amount of knowledge on the matter the more you dive into it.

[craggy sphinx]

hello
what are you doing, why aren't you active?

[deep loom]

Yes alright got it.

[deep loom]

Yep, that's very true.

[hot bison]

I myself am a law student I'll graduate in less than 2 months with 4.6 gpa still amazed from it. It's really good if you like the major you study. And I hope you do.

Because 2 majors are money making in general. Law and medicine

[ornate siren]

I am active, coming to think of it

[jolly agate]

i humbly disgree.

[craggy sphinx]

?

What does wandering around in the world of books for no reason give you?

[jolly agate]

wandering through books without a reasons help you learn new things, see different perspectives and understand life better. It's like a journey where you find interesting stuff and become smarter, even if you didn't set out with a specific goal.

[hot bison]

I recall the time one of my professors mentioned.
"Understanding Law is like diving into an ocean. The one who search and don't read (normal people) are only able to discover a centimeters of knowledge it holds within it"

[jolly agate]

im talking about the "long run"

[craggy sphinx]

I don't think you would care about knowledge if you actually did it

if you could learn something new, it would happen in an instant. you would forget this "knowledge" because you didn't care about it. This is because you are doing it for no reason

[deep loom]

Omg 4.6 gpa! I can only imagine that for myself.

Good for you tho, how many hours do you spend studying/listening to lectures/do anything related to your academic studies?

I love what I'm studying but I don't love studying. (I mean the hardwork it requires but it's inevitable tho so I gotta adapt to it gradually and I hope I will.)

[craggy sphinx]

It's a waste of time I think

but this would help you relax, but not gain new "knowledge"

[craggy sphinx]

in the general chat yes, it's possible

[jolly agate]

i humbly disgree with you again

[hot bison]

It really depends. I myself am terrible at math😂. But my social skills and logical reasoning is amazing. I would fail medicine the first year if I studied😂. By a 2.2 gpa perhabs😂. It important to discover your abilities and disabilities. No one is perfect at every thing.

I spend atleast 4 ours daily. Max 8. Depends really. I have developed an interesting method to study. At the time I study I also play with my phone. And the results are incredible😂. I believe it is also helpful for you to allow your mind to concentrate on different acts all together.

In regards to the last parts I must say no worries. If you love it you'll find a way to pass it.

[jolly agate]

you cant say that you will not gain any new knowledge after reading 100 and 1000s of book.

[thorny steeple]

even if you’re not actively seeking knowledge it’s still possible to passively learn from something

[craggy sphinx]

Of 100% percent of what is there, you would remember 5-10% if you did it for no reason. Maybe even less

There is also a question regarding the use of this knowledge in practice

[jolly agate]

this statment is as "dubius as truth"

[craggy sphinx]

You may have associations, yes. but that's not exactly what I mean

[craggy sphinx]

I don't care about the truth

[jolly agate]

so we are getting somewhere, from you beleving. reading without a purpose will gain you no knowadge to get you about 5 to 10 persent. now tell @craggy sphinx is better to have then 10 persent of the things you rememberd that you did not know beofe or have no knowladge at about that at all.

[deep loom]

I highly doubt you'd fail it, you probably would have found logical strategies to pass medicine lol.
But yeah I need to discover my abilities and disabilities thanks.

Wow between 4-8 hours, that's incredible.
Interesting method indeed but haha, I don't think that would work for me, but glad it works for you.

[jolly agate]

i wasnt taking about truth

[craggy sphinx]

I didn't say that I believe.

I think it depends on what you remember. It may be that it would be better for me not to remember even these 5 - 10%.

this may not be effective for me. just associations.

[jolly agate]

i was saying that "your statment is so uncertain that it is only resonable to compare it to the most certain thing which is truth"

[craggy sphinx]

I don't think the truth in this case is organic

[jolly agate]

how so.

[craggy sphinx]

we are not talking about the "truth of knowledge"

[jolly agate]

so we ended up on being "it depends what you read without a purpose"

[craggy sphinx]

not really.

if you really want to learn something , I think there must be a reason for it

[jolly agate]

i was only using it as an object to compare the uncertanity of the statment you made elaier

[hot bison]

In law you can play with the words but in medicine you can't 😂😂😂. It's based on pure logical facts

[craggy sphinx]

that's a bad comparison I think

[jolly agate]

i dont think so

[craggy sphinx]

Was my opinion wrong or right?

[jolly agate]

its your oponion

[jolly agate]

im just saying that even resding without a purpose will still get to knowladge

oviousaly its better to read with a purpose in mind

[craggy sphinx]

but you can appreciate the level of it

[jolly agate]

so you know excatly what you are getting.

[craggy sphinx]

yes, but these are only new associations

[jolly agate]

goods good

[craggy sphinx]

this may not be useful

[jolly agate]

how would you do it

[craggy sphinx]

you were able to give an example of the truth, this means that you appreciated my example.
this also means that for you it may be right or wrong

Is it possible to assert whether this is right or wrong?

if this is a statement, then it is wrong, I think.since you yourself said that it is not defined

[deep loom]

Yes that's true tho.

[craggy sphinx]

hello

[jolly agate]

why do you think its a bad comparasion btw.

[jolly agate]

hello

[jolly agate]

when?

[jolly agate]

is it not asserting?

[finite bone]

What's going on ??someone tell me .

[jolly agate]

read the chat above and answer anything you can

[finite bone]

Yep

[formal scaffold]

Come to think of it*

[thorny steeple]

why humans are annoying?

[formal scaffold]

why do frogs jump in water to hide from rain?

[thorny steeple]

Bc rain got acidified thanks to humans

[formal scaffold]

Hopefully the swamp is a safer place, I bet you that you do that to not get wet but whatever i'll take yr word on it

[thorny steeple]

Humans have lost their true identity with progress (regression) so that nowadays they don't even know how to eat and they eat anything.

[formal scaffold]

like frog juice, or grilled frog thighs

[thorny steeple]

despite the existence of annoying humans nowhere is safe now

[formal scaffold]

Power feeds arrogance

[thorny steeple]

are u a human?

[formal scaffold]

[formal scaffold]

I don't think that would matter much

[thorny steeple]

Blocked Messages

.

[formal scaffold]

last time I heard that was in LOTR

[formal scaffold]

You got taste and I'm not here to judge

[formal scaffold]

Have you met a good human yet?

[thorny steeple]

good means acting in humans vocabulary

[formal scaffold]

good to the environment

[thorny steeple]

are from usa ?

[formal scaffold]

northern africa

[charred socket]

hay guyz

[craggy sphinx]

, “competition is the engine of progress”
(not a natural process)

Is this always the case?

[thorny steeple]

Competition is something made by humans to brainwash other humans

Competition causes damage and regression

[craggy sphinx]

why do you think so? Could you give examples?

[jolly agate]

yeah

[thorny steeple]

for example

[jolly agate]

disgree

[craggy sphinx]

why do you think so? Could you give examples?

[jolly agate]

i didnt ask

[thorny steeple]

same

[jolly agate]

its a natural instincts of human.

to havr compitition with other humans

as far as we have proof of the histroy there is always been compition

between humans

[craggy sphinx]

competition, yes, but how effective is it?

[jolly agate]

depends

what you are competiting against

[jolly agate]

why you stop @thorny steeple

[craggy sphinx]

I don’t take into account the competition that has been associated with us since birth

[craggy sphinx]

maybe he needs time

[jolly agate]

he may.

[jolly agate]

thats subjective

[craggy sphinx]

I'm always here, I'm always ready

[jolly agate]

😂😂.

[craggy sphinx]

What exactly?

You talked about natural competition

subjective, yes

[jolly agate]

yeah.

[craggy sphinx]

😂

[jolly agate]

comptition isnt only limited to huamans, there is compition in animal kingdom too.

[craggy sphinx]

I need specific examples

[jolly agate]

lets go lion,

there is always a compitition between lions on whos gonna be the king whos the strongest to worth enough to rule the other lions

[craggy sphinx]

I wrote about this earlier

competition in nature is obvious. but we're talking about the human race, I don't think it can be related

Of course, we also struggle to survive, but this is different from what happens in nature

[thorny steeple]

stop wat

[jolly agate]

i didnt see my badp

[jolly agate]

you didnt answer

[craggy sphinx]

.I'm talking about the natural manifestations of this

[thorny steeple]

answer wat

[jolly agate]

? for example what??

[thorny steeple]

u were my exemple

[jolly agate]

game over

[vagrant swan]

hi

[jolly agate]

hello

[vagrant swan]

wassup

[formal scaffold]

I love this frog

[thorny steeple]

What do İndian or Pakistani Muslims think about Hijra gender?

[vagrant swan]

where are y from

[thorny steeple]

Turkey

[vagrant swan]

kardeşim benden kaçabileceğini sandı.

[thorny steeple]

Lol

[vagrant swan]

which city tho

[serene birch]

2 different times, 2 different figures, 2 different colored flags, but the same mentality.

[formal scaffold]

what's hijra? traveling?

[thorny steeple]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia)

[thorny steeple]

ıstanbul you?

[vagrant swan]

kocaeli

coward 😳

[thorny steeple]

lıttle cousın of ıstanbul lol

[vagrant swan]

damn

istanbul is so crowded

i've been istanbul before

many times

[thorny steeple]

yes ı know but as fatıh terım said what can ı do sometımes?

[vagrant swan]

he said fr

[thorny steeple]

nowhere can give same chances and conditions with ıstanbul

[vagrant swan]

i dont think so

istanbul is so crowded for living

[thorny steeple]

but a lot of possıblıty in here

[vagrant swan]

say a possiblity in istanbul isnt contain in Kocaeli

[thorny steeple]

th best unıversıtes of turkey

[vagrant swan]

for university its good but rent of the homes

for a student

[thorny steeple]

yes but there are solutıon ın example ı am stoppin over in dormitary of school and ı am paying only 1k for every month that ı remain in dorm

[vagrant swan]

nahh

have very rules

not my style

[thorny steeple]

this dorm is very loose accordıng to state dorms

nobody is making pressure about polıtıcal or relıgıonal subjects

there is one strict rule and it is last enterance hour and it is same with state dorms so eleven pm

except this we have not got any strict rule and you can take permıssıon to come late to dorm if you have an excuse like going to concert or playing footbal match etc.

[neon sierra]

First time seeing someone use “religional”

That’s not even an I

[vagrant swan]

what a dorm

what named

[thorny steeple]

this is dorm of our school

ı am studyıng ın ıbn haldun unıversıty

[vagrant swan]

which proffession you want to be inside

[thorny steeple]

i don't

people who use "L" word are annoying

L

[vagrant swan]

i'll study in a university which is in Istanbul

but i dont noticed which

[thorny steeple]

what ıs your department

[vagrant swan]

wdym with department

[humble lion]

Hangi bölüm

[vagrant swan]

ohh

ondan demedim la

i'm on high school so

i didnt noticed .

[thorny steeple]

Hello, guys and girls! How do you think about goalkeeper Oliver Kahn which saved every penalty against nine year old children in charity shootout?

At normal when proffisional athletes try win in every competitions? He must allow make at one children or several? If you to be on his place you allow make success goal? If yes, for which count of children? If no give your reasons.

I want give link on source but do not know it allows on this server.

[tall moss]

FREE PALESTINE

FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE

[thorny steeple]

Are you asking whether it was right or wrong for the goalkeeper to save every goal? Personally, I would've let a few go (probably by pretending to fall over or something lol), but I would've saved most, because kids must learn to lose. Very important. We all need to learn that not everything will go our way — in-fact, most things won't. I wouldn't be counting. I don't think you can just whittle this down to numbers. If there were a lot of kids and they could all watch the kicks, then I wouldn't allow a few kicks to succeed for each child, as they all would've seen the successes, and the losses. The learning experience and the fun would've been important for all of them, even if only as an observer.

[thorny steeple]

Good notice! I know one man from exUSSR which immigrate to USA yet in last century, and he told histories about situations when parents grow up their children in extra-super care, and not allow any losing in any type completions. And then such kids get many problem in adult society.

Although this histories smell of lies, by unknowledge reason some past soviet citizens love create cock-and-bull story in conversation with their past compatriot.

[thorny steeple]

Which class?

[dim trellis]

Gaza will be turned to rubble.

Israel will reign supreme.

[long quiver]

I just had a question, Why are humans the only animals who hide while mating?

[dim trellis]

Hide?

[long quiver]

Yeah, they have sex in private

[dim trellis]

idk there probably are some animals that do that

i aint chatgpt

[warped scroll]

Many animals have sex wherever they want - dogs.cats etc

[long quiver]

I found that it is unlike behavior of most species, including our relatives: bonobos, chimpanzees and gorillas

[long quiver]

Yeaah ik

Unless humans

[dim trellis]

yea chimps are dumb as hell, they probably don't even realize they're in public

[long quiver]

Yeah ik, it was an open question

[long quiver]

Dude

[warped scroll]

Bc of morality?

[formal scaffold]

Oliver is my hero ❤️

[long quiver]

Maybe

Maybe, it's bcuz of the evolution of our consciousness, that humans created this "shame" of behaving according to our nature

[echo sorrel]

Random question anyone know how to reserve flights for 2025?

[thorny steeple]

assalamu alaikum guys. 👋

(peace be upon you)

[formal scaffold]

walaikoum assalam wrahmatou allahi wabarakatoho

[thorny steeple]

perhaps if you find some kind of organization that provides sleeping pods services. xD

[thorny steeple]

how is it going my bro? 🤍

[echo sorrel]

Haha this is a serious chat man.

[formal scaffold]

each day is a blessing my bro

[thorny steeple]

yes, I know, your question was very serious though. xD

[echo sorrel]

You're right.

[thorny steeple]

I always thought about sleeping as some kind of time travel mechanism.

[echo sorrel]

During the night maybe.

[thorny steeple]

yes, I mean, during sleep, time passes so quickly, or more accurately, you don't feel the time passes.

[echo sorrel]

True. When you're asleep it's almost like being awake except your body is not fully aware of its surroundings, especially in a place where you've been before. Your brain creates dreams which are a collection of memories. Things you have experienced in your own life.

[formal scaffold]

similar to the possession state

[thorny steeple]

Alhamdulillah, may Allah grant you everlasting peace and happiness, and paradise in the hereafter.

[warped scroll]

Yeah mine too Also I never let my nibling win on purpose I teach them how to win, fight etc. Imo children must get educated this way Damn Every generation is getting soft and soft

[formal scaffold]

amine to you aswell

[formal scaffold]

he was the reason why I was playing a goalie back in the days even tho it looked lame

[tall moss]

death to israel

[warped scroll]

I see I gave up playing football after that generation of players Imo New players looked lame to me Except Ronaldo and Mbappe

[warped scroll]

🤣

[thorny steeple]

@formal scaffold @thorny steeple
haven't I told you before that only sadistic scums support Israel after all it has done? I kind of remember I said so, or similar. 🤔
well, anyways, here is a live proof.

[formal scaffold]

Surat Al-Qasas [verse 55] - And when they hear ill speech, they turn away from it and say, "For us are our deeds, and for you are your deeds. Peace will be upon you; we seek not the ignorant."

the best way to deal with that hopefully we can practice that

[thorny steeple]

Why did you ping me?

[tall moss]

free palestine

[formal scaffold]

to bear witness ig

[warped scroll]

Bunch of losers Just want other's attention They can't live without it

[thorny steeple]

@thorny steeple
when people support Israel, they support the terrorist regime that took over Palestine, and also these type of depraved people:
https://youtu.be/xRi7uWF24Cg?si=KmA6YwIbB68yci9X

[thorny steeple]

so that you see the message I replied to. xD

[warped scroll]

Bc we need reasonable and intelligent people

[shrewd cliff]

Hi folks, I've been studying English for quite a few years now (my current English level is B2) and now I'm planning on getting an IELTS degree.. I have been to English classes but I wanna know if it's possible for a person in my level to self-study the rest of this path and only use a mentor to keep track of what he's doing. AND if you have gone through the same thing (with a mentor) I really appreciate if you can share your experience with me.

[thorny steeple]

did you know that in the west bank which is not controlled by Hamas, at least 190 Palestinian civilians were killed by the Israeli settlers.

[warped scroll]

New Nazis

[thorny steeple]

no

[hallow mango]

hi

[thorny steeple]

hi

[hallow mango]

lets friends

[bronze wind]

hi

[thorny steeple]

alright

[dim trellis]

death to gaza

[dim trellis]

after what israel has done? Have you and your despicable ilk even seen what Hamas has done?

gaza deserves everything that's coming for it

Let them have it. They brought it upon themselves

natural selection by poking a bear

[thorny steeple]

Gaza deserves everything that has coming for it (my favorite word)

[thorny steeple]

I'm not even talking about Hamas!

[limber badger]

Freee Palestineeeeeeeeee

[thorny steeple]

so you're saying Israelis are animals.

proves a point I made before, which is that Israel uses psychological projection. they labelled Palestinians as human animals, I don't have to comment on this, it's obvious where the psychological projection is.

[warped scroll]

Just landed a piece of nazi experiment I know ur daddy (hitler) what taught you all but It's wrong

[thorny steeple]

anyone who supports Israel, is either ignorant of its actions and how it was established in the first place, or a filthy and disgusting scum.

[dim trellis]

antisemitism 101

[thorny steeple]

I wonder, do you also (clearly arbitrarily) label the Jewish Rubbies who support Palestine anti-semitic as well? 😂
https://youtube.com/shorts/2RTYdgb3CVw?si=_fgmRFSK8tzSi7Bv

https://youtube.com/shorts/HH0Lr2nM2qY?si=IHMo5dXTdTF-qP-g

[dim trellis]

No repercussions for attacking innocent civilians Yep

seems fair

[thorny steeple]

Wow! so many anti-semitic Jews. xD
https://youtube.com/shorts/3_nDRZkCBHo?si=sp7ztK_SwVAkDa_R

[dim trellis]

i couldn't give less of a shit if a few jews are marching on the streets of DC

it's irrelevant

israel has every right to defend herself

[thorny steeple]

totally relevant, they are anti-Semites according to your belie... I mean according to your logic.

[dim trellis]

learn to read

[thorny steeple]

Where are u from

[thorny steeple]

well, if I need to learn how to read, you're urgently in need to learn basic English, it's called "itself", even Israel was the prophet Jacob's nickname who was a male (if that's what you're referring to). Lol

[dim trellis]

Don't try to correct me.

i called you an antisemite, not everyone who supports palestinian people

[craggy sphinx]

just don't start

[thorny steeple]

Judaism =/= Zionism.
anti-Semitism is the hostility against Jewish people, you labelled me as anti-Semitic solely for opposing your terrorist regime known as "Israel", so you're arbitrarily labeling people who are opposing Zionists anti-Semites, while they have not spoken a word against "Jews".

at least, be consistent, your fellow pro-Israel would most probably be ashamed of your inconsistency.

[dim trellis]

You claim that anyone who supports israel is a filthy and disgusting scum.

Keep yourself safe.

You know nothing and remain ignorant, forever on the wrong side of history.

Israel will win this war, and the whole world knows it.

[thorny steeple]

yes I did, supporting a terrorist apartheid regime such as Israel is surely disgusting.

[dim trellis]

Are you mistaking Israel for Hamas?

Hamas are the terrorists here, stop trying to mince words.

[thorny steeple]

wanna talk about history, I'd like to talk about history.
do you know who are the people historically indigenous to the land Israel occupies right now?

[dim trellis]

It doesn't matter who was there first.

Israel is there now.

Or perhaps you'd like for China to cede all of its land to Taiwan?

Perhaps you'd like every country to give up its land claims? And for the USA to be dissolved and returned to native americans?

The fact of the matter is that Israel has been a benevolent ruler.

Your people have been allowed to exist, to roam gaza freely.

[thorny steeple]

massacring 17,487 innocent lives, with at least 8,000 being children. Israel is 100% a terrorist state.
I remember when they warned civilians to move to northern Gaza and bombed them on their way.

[dim trellis]

Bogus numbers.

You're indoctrinated.

[thorny steeple]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/how-many-palestinians-have-died-gaza-war-how-will-counting-continue-2023-12-06/

corrected, they are 17,487.

Lol, as if it makes any difference.

[thorny steeple]

Gaza was inhabited by Gazians before Israel becomes a thing, in fact, there are some old men there who age more than Israel. Lol

[dim trellis]

Ah, Gaza's own government as a source. They'd never lie.

[dim trellis]

What makes you think I care?

Israelis inhabit Israel now.

[formal scaffold]

you are being antisemite too against semites how ironic

arabes are semites

[dim trellis]

I don't care.

Ask me if I care.

[formal scaffold]

valid argument 10/10

[dim trellis]

Thanks.

[thorny steeple]

oh, then the alleged 1,500 Israeli civilians who have been murdered on Oct the 7th are also not to be trusted. Gaza's government is far more credible than Israel will ever be.

even Washington post deems it credible: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2023/gaza-rising-death-toll-civilians/

so your opinion basically doesn't matter.

[dim trellis]

The deaths of 1500 Israelis were intentional homicides, perpetrated by Hamas terrorists. The Gaza death tolls are collateral damage, mainly due to them refusing to evacuate, or from Hamas intentionally placing themselves in densely populated areas.

[thorny steeple]

source: trust me bro.

[formal scaffold]

he's antisemite just leave him be

[dim trellis]

Have you watched any of the videos that Hamas has released?

They go after innocent civilians, on purpose.

But of course, you'd look past that.

You choose to ignore the truth.

[formal scaffold]

Since the release of the "list" that contained the days of the week in arabic and saying that it was the names of the memeber of a terrorist group I never took them seriously after

works only on uneducated people

[thorny steeple]

they have been desperately defending Israel without providing a single credible and authoritative source. I'm willing to provide and support my arguments with as many as it takes, I have tons of evidence for my claims.
so I would normally annihilate their arguments, and happily so, but you're right though. there is no point in arguing with someone who openly supports the brutal massacre of innocent civilians in Gaza, I don't have to bother.

[formal scaffold]

save yr braincells for something more productive ❤️

[dim trellis]

It's funny you say that, while you yourself refuse to acknowledge the crimes of Hamas.

[thorny steeple]

I haven't talked about Hamas yet.

[dim trellis]

That's the problem.

[thorny steeple]

but I'm willing to by the way.

[dim trellis]

Sure, go ahead.

I'm not stopping you.

[thorny steeple]

have you ever seen an alleged terrorist group providing shampoo and conditioner to their hostages. xD
they are so terrorist aren't they? this is a testimony given by a former Israeli hostage "yocheved lifshitz", she said all of those things while she was among her family, no coercion of any kind could've happend there.

here is another woman who testified good treatment from the Hamas soldiers on Oct the 7th. they were so terrorist that they asked to eat a banana. Lol

[dim trellis]

Ah.. they gave her shampoo after brutally murdering and raping all her family.

That makes it so much better. Hamas is so kind <3.

[thorny steeple]

yes sure, the lady on her right is literally her daughter, and the guy behind her is her son. they totally killed them.

😂

[dim trellis]

It's an example of the things Hamas did, if you didn't understand that.

[formal scaffold]

khamas is washing your brain they def killed them they are moving them like puppets with their "technology"

[dim trellis]

Just because they treated one woman good in captivity doesn't make it any better.

[thorny steeple]

now why aren't you willing to defend your position in favor of massacring innocent lives in Gaza?

[dim trellis]

It's in their interests to treat the hostages they release well, so that they get good press.

[thorn mantle]

Hello

[formal scaffold]

Khamas is actually brutal they didn't use the right mothode to wake them up, they should've used electricity like israel, nvm they have no electricity

[dim trellis]

I have.

[formal scaffold]

Hoshgaldnz 👋🏾

[dim trellis]

The civilians israel "massacres" are collateral.

They're not intentional kills.

[formal scaffold]

colateral 360 no scope 7 hospitals

[dim trellis]

Hamas forced Israel's hand by hiding among the civilians.

[thorny steeple]

you said they killed all of her family, proceeded by literally her daughter and son being around her, her daughter was essentially the one translating for her. Lol

[dim trellis]

The hospitals wouldn't have been bombed if Hamas didn't hide ammunition and rockets in them.

[thorn mantle]

🙂Thanks

[dim trellis]

No.

[thorny steeple]

😂 😂 😂 😂

[dim trellis]

I gave an example of what Hamas does, and how it acts.

[formal scaffold]

Lmao the same dudes who showed the list with the days of the weeek aka "terrorist list", with that fake nurse, get out of here with that bum fabricated vedio xD

[dim trellis]

What the fuck are you on about?

[formal scaffold]

framing is an art no every one can perform it

[dim trellis]

I can't even tell what you're trying to say.

[formal scaffold]

I can't blame you

[dim trellis]

Also, it's pretty ironic that you're talking about fabricated videos.

[thorny steeple]

I've been objective for the most part, could you at least try to and provide your evidence?

[dim trellis]

Virtually half of the videos coming out of palestine are staged.

[dim trellis]

Give me a second

[formal scaffold]

the nurse was an actual actess just google her

I love people mentioning that vid it's a whole comedic show to me xD

[formal scaffold]

you must be a disgusting human if you are talking about the corpses

without bringing any proofs

[thorny steeple]

alright, meanwhile, let's watch this video of many other Israeli hostages who were so grateful for the terrorist group who murdered all of their families and, of course, brutally tortured them in their prisons. xD

[dim trellis]

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/14/politics/white-house-hamas-al-shifa/index.html
https://news.yahoo.com/israel-shows-evidence-hamas-stored-035703125.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/16/idf-says-hamas-hiding-evidence-of-use-of-shifa-hospital-as-command-centre
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/31/why-hamas-stores-its-weapons-inside-hospitals-mosques-and-schools/

[formal scaffold]

white house says ...

[dim trellis]

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/10/30/10-things-to-know-about-hamas-and-hospitals/

Storing weapons near civilian sites, including hospitals, is part of Hamas’s doctrine. A NATO report examining Hamas activities between 2008 and 2014 found that they fire “rockets, artillery, and mortars from or in proximity to heavily populated civilian areas, often from or near facilities which should be protected.” Journalists from numerous media outlets, including the Financial Times, provided eyewitness testimony of rockets launched from near hospitals.

[formal scaffold]

https://youtu.be/bv9DVI24atM ❤️

[formal scaffold]

this should take the award for the best comedic show this year

[thorny steeple]

hmm

[dim trellis]

Staged videos, a lot of these videos were exposed as fake.

One literally included the family members of a hamas operative as "israeli hostages".

Again, you're just posting Hamas propaganda.

[thorny steeple]

@thorny steeple why they are fighting

[formal scaffold]

FEAR ME MY NAME IS SATURDAY AND IM A REKNOWN TERRORIST

[dim trellis]

Average palestine supporter.

Hamas operatives are stupid enough to record a lot of it.

[formal scaffold]

How can you say a list of "satuday .... friday" is a terrorist organization xD

[dim trellis]

It's what you'd expect from a shithole like gaza.

[thorny steeple]

Buy one and we will go there and stream the war

[dim trellis]

I've got no idea what you're talking about again.

Word of advice: stop taking the methamphetamine.

[formal scaffold]

bc you didn't watch the vedio it seems you are providing proof that you don't check

[thorny steeple]

Lol, your sources claim that the elevator's hoistway is a tunnel. 😂
and also there is a list in Arabic says "we're are in an operation" with the names of all the Hamas bad guys written. what a joke. 😂
to be fair, some people are named Thursday in Arabic, they might've wrote their name here among the days in the calendar... I mean the list. xD

[formal scaffold]

after bombing and killing they hired a cameraman, a harlot as a nurse and shooted a vedio that's show their low IQ along with their supporters

and people go so far to support hospital bombers

average antisemites ig

[dim trellis]

You people are dumber than I expected.

But, it's not surprising.

[thorny steeple]

this video has been for long the subject for mockery to all rational human beings, they've even made funny videos about it on YouTube and tiktok. xD

[dim trellis]

Either way, good luck.

[formal scaffold]

facts don't care about your emotions

[dim trellis]

Exactly.

Israel will win this war.

And Palestine will be turned to rubble.

And everything will return to how it should be.

[thorny steeple]

sure, I believe you, as long as your source is "believe me bro". xD

[dim trellis]

Gaza will no longer exist, and Palestine will only be told about in history classes.

[neon sierra]

The hell is wrong with you

[thorny steeple]

who?

[thorny steeple]

Israel and Palestine

[thorny steeple]

you wish.

[dim trellis]

Because Hamas ret3rds went in and massacred, raped, and beheaded innocent civilians.

[thorny steeple]

one sec. I'll send you a video here that explains that much, 'cause it would take too much writing to explain the whole issue.

[dim trellis]

They're now suffering the consequences.

[thorny steeple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE8GCX1w3ys&t=28s

[thorny steeple]

can u explain it in 10 words

[dim trellis]

Such a good source.

Did Hamas fund this guy?

[thorny steeple]

sure, an occupation by a terrorist regime known as Zionism.

[dim trellis]

LOL

[thorny steeple]

only 9 words, if we count "a" and "as". simple. Lol

[thorny steeple]

so u mean Israel occupied Palestine

and Palestine people want to take it back

[thorny steeple]

one thing my sources have that yours don't is, they state facts, they don't simply quote their alias, you can look up all the historical events in the video, don't complain if you don't know how to form solid arguments and use evidence.

[dim trellis]

You have no credible sources, not a single one.

[thorny steeple]

they resisted, and the stated aim of Hamas currently is to take back their land.

[dim trellis]

All you've done is take in Hamas propaganda and regurgitate it.

[hollow dust]

Israel has been siphoning resources from Gaza for a decade now, yet you call them a benevolent ruler. They've fostered the terrorist organization that resists them. I do not support the methods of Hamas. Israel undoubtedly uses this as an opportunity to gain complete control over the region. I don't quite understand your vehement disregard for Gaza as a whole. You mentioned indoctrination already, but I'm sure you can see how polarized you are coming across as well.

[dim trellis]

Certainly, I agree with you, but honestly, I've stopped caring.

They were only benevolent insofar as they allowed Palestine self governance and allowed it to exist.

[thorny steeple]

how come? the US has been aiding Israel by finance and weaponry to achieve their goal which is wipe out Hamas, I don't think Hamas works for the US at all, they even have very basic weapons compared to what US has.

[dim trellis]

I think you mean 7 civilians.

[thorny steeple]

that's sure thing, they have been battling one to one for some days now, and Hamas have recorded some of these battles, they absolutely have no problem fighting one-to-one.

[dim trellis]

Hamas soldiers are not very well trained. They couldn't take down many IDF soldiers.

And they even start crying when they're about to die.

Yet give no thought to the lives they've taken.

[hollow dust]

Benevolent by their own standards, perhaps. I find the entire thing quite detestable. It particularly irks me that America seems to want to be involved in this conflict as well. I do not think we will see anything but Gaza in a history book as well, because I'm sure that Israel would prefer to escalate this war in whichever way benefits them most. I'm much more frustrated by how complicated it all is, and it mostly ends in the deaths of countless innocents through the naivety of a self-destructive terrorist organization (who I suspect have less simple connections), through which there is little that can justifiably be done.

[thorny steeple]

look who's talking. I can't even be sarcastic without being right. Lol

[dim trellis]

There is no such thing as hell.

[dim trellis]

Perhaps, but the US is unlikely to get involved so long as Iran and other arab countries keep themselves out of it.

Israel is more than capable of defending itself.

Israel could flatten Gaza overnight, but they haven't.

This fact goes to show how kind they truly are.

Whereas Hamas would, and has tried to murder everyone in Israel already.

[thorny steeple]

yeah, they mostly wet their pants. xD

[dim trellis]

Those aren't IDF soldiers LOL.

Are you retard3d?

That uniform looks 50 years out of date.

Once again you're just proving how dumb you people are.

[thorny steeple]

it's probably an old picture though, but perhaps you're right, these might not be IDF terrorists.

[dim trellis]

IDF "terrorists"

Every word and sentence you conjure is biased in some form it seems.

[thorny steeple]

it's not bias, it's objectivity.
even the UN admits that what Israel is doing is a war crime.

it's not even hidden from anybody how terrorist the IDF is, they have bombed tons of hospitals, hell, they even airstriked schools.

and they used white phosphorus, it's a globally banned weapon! it burns people alive via the gas it emits in the air.

[dim trellis]

I've said why earlier.

Their hand is forced by Hamas, who reguraly uses those sites to deter strikes from the IDF.

[thorny steeple]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus_munitions

[thorny steeple]

according to the international law, these facilities are not to be attacked. so they basically committed war crime regardless of any justification you provide, it's already revoked.

[dim trellis]

Be quiet. According to international law, you're not suppsoed to store ammunition in them, and you're not supposed to rape or massacre civilians either.

Why should Israel respect international law when their opponent throws it out the window?

Answer me that.

[thorny steeple]

The Geneva Conventions of 1949 and their Additional Protocols specifically prohibit attacks on hospitals and schools. Article 8 of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court also lists attacks on hospitals and schools as war crimes.

[dim trellis]

Cool

That's not an answer to what I asked.

[warped scroll]

🤣 🤣 🤣

🤣 🤣 🤣

[thorny steeple]

it's not about Hamas, it's about the civilians, your reasoning is flawed.
even if they allegedly store ammunition in these facilities, you're still prohibited from attacking these facilities, the international law distinguishes between military objectives and civilian objects, schools and hospitals are considered civilian objects, there is no reason in the world that could possibly justify the massacre of innocent civilians, especially the ones who are sick and require medical care and assistance, let alone bombing the whole facility that provides such humane services.

[dim trellis]

"international law distinguishes between military objectives and civilian objects,"
That's thrown out the window when Hamas mixes the two.

Anyways this is where we part.

You clearly are beyond reasoning, and are too hardheaded to realize the truth.

[thorny steeple]

sure, if these hospitals and schools are out of service, probably it would be then justifiable, but when one hospital is filled with patients, some of which are severely injured by the non-stopping bombardment on them, there is no single reason that could justify simply bombing it.

even though, there has been no proof that Hamas took bases in any of these facilities, they don't have to, they already have a giant network of tunnels underground.

[thorny steeple]

again, you're using psychological projection, in which you attribute your own characteristics to others, I'm the one providing evidence all along, valid ones, while you simply deny anything being put forth.

[gentle musk]

Free Gaza

[unkempt sable]

Amin

[dim trellis]

Again, wrong.

I've stated that there's no point of me disproving your claims before, do I need to repeat myself?

[gentle musk]

Free Palestine

[gentle musk]

So free Gaza

[glad patio]

SUS

very sus

[violet peak]

I’d rather not touch these

[hard jasper]

ok, I just try to use this channel

[neon sierra]

Free Gaza

Free Palestine

[feral river]

oh really, I don’t think that international law more superior than national security

if there is someone threatening your personal security such as they put a gun on your head

will you mind the freaking law and stop resisting ?

there is nothing more important than security

In my scale, gaza is a contiguous threat to israeli nation, they will eliminate it just they have to be

and the most powerful nation in the world, United States, EU and China, supports israel

it’s about power, not justice, superior power equals justice

the winner is who have more guns, more money, more resources, more advanced equipments and killing machines

[gaunt bronze]

just to push my head in, I don’t think China rlly supports Israel

i actually remember watching this video of a Chinese U.N. diplomat explaining china’s position “in the middle”

[feral river]

yeah, China always doing that, but our favor is the israelis, there is a lot of israeli investment and influences in china mainland

I live here so I know it, just like China also favors putin🤣

it’s an amazing strategy that will not offense both islam countries and israelis

to persevere our interest

This is war, the supreme court of civilization of humanity

[gaunt bronze]

100%

[feral river]

Not to hear what they say, See what they are doing

pretexts could justifying everything that you want to be justified, it’s pointless.

there is no strong measures that could enforce other country to obey the freaking law

then It’s just a paper

a toilet paper

[thorny steeple]

use rock

[craggy sphinx]

why refute this?

[thorny steeple]

Hello I want to improve my English speaking.
I am very weak in pronunciation of shion, tion, cher, ger, cial.
How can I improve those?

[hot bison]

International law is a lie propagated by the conquerors of war (ww2). All nations are aware of this fact. No nation truly abides by it. What made it iconic was gaddafi's speech.

If you are willing to act humane. You are saving yoursoul.
@thorny steeple

[gusty relic]

I'm Chinese.In my opinion,in my country just a few people show concern for this war.In most cases, we only focus on how the war began and on how to make it end. We don't want stand for any side, because this war is too
far from our Chinese, politically and geographically. We just want this war to be ended in a peaceful way, but how we think has little influence on it.

[hot bison]

Makes sense. Who cares If Falkland Island is on flames

[craggy sphinx]

hello
for more information - #📚｜english-questions

[lavish finch]

China is a permanent member of the UN security council.

World events impact them and they impact world events.

What's your name, please?

[gusty relic]

huai an

[lavish finch]

China is far away from me, but I still care what happens there.

If a Chinese human rights lawyer is killed by the government or put in prison unjustly, that concerns me.

There may be little or nothing I can do about it.

How is it the the US and China have been able to be very interested in each other economically but not socially?

[gusty relic]

Actually many Chinese are interested in American social.
For example, why in the US girls go shopping rarely hand in hand while Chinese girls does.

[lavish finch]

That's fine, but that's not what I mean by social. By social I mean an interest in the real challenges each other face.

For example, are people from the US concerned that the products made by Chinese workers, which they consume, are made under near slave like conditions.

[gusty relic]

my parents are worker, so i think it is not

[lavish finch]

You think what is not?

You don't think that working conditions in China are bad because your parents don't have bad working conditions?

[gusty relic]

right

[lavish finch]

Are the experiences of your parents representative of the overall experience or not?

(The anecdotal fallacy occurs when people use their limited personal experience to make sweeping conclusions about a given topic.)

[gusty relic]

Are your concerns about China representative of the overall American or not?

[gusty relic]

Why are there so many homeless people on the streets of America, why don't American women have the right to abortion, why did poison gas leak in Ohio, why did free and equal America elect an Alzheimer's patient as president.
Why are there so many school shootings in the United States.

[wet dagger]

i think that number one reason of homeless population is drug adicction

[thorny steeple]

Because its USA

[vagrant swan]

11

[thorny steeple]

What is your clas sözel (oral?) sayısal eş ağırlık etc

[vagrant swan]

sayısal

cause its science high school

[jolly agate]

?def assert

[lavish finch]

Are you saying that you do care about American people?

[jolly agate]

the discord between people in this discord is ________.

[lavish finch]

I did not claim that they are.

[jolly agate]

i think he was just saying what he knows

[lavish finch]

No, I don't think so.

He made a claim about Chinese people based on his personal experience.

And then asked a string of questions regarding the reasons for social problems in the US.

[jolly agate]

thats still isnt enough prove to think he cares.

may be he does care. "only he knows."

[lavish finch]

That's why I asked him.

Or her

[jolly agate]

we will see, then.

[lavish finch]

...

[jolly agate]

btw

[lavish finch]

...

[jolly agate]

hows the new teacher doing

[lavish finch]

Who?

[jolly agate]

the english one

[lavish finch]

Who?

[jolly agate]

i dont know, i thought you hired the new english teacher, and you were talking about traning him,

[lavish finch]

Yes, I did. They're good.

[jolly agate]

ahhh, i see

so you hired more then one

nice

[jolly agate]

i bet breads pretty good too.

[lavish finch]

...

I don't know what you're talking about.

[gusty relic]

then I can say you made a claim about Chinese people based on YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, because you have never been to China. right?

[lavish finch]

You could say that, but you'd be wrong.

[jolly agate]

"bread" meant "cash"
"cash" is pay.

i bet pays pretty good too

[lavish finch]

There's plenty of good documentation about work conditions in China.

[gusty relic]

'you could say' means 'you are wrong', hahaha, interesting and impressive

[lavish finch]

I don't have to experience something personally. That's why there's value in reading books and watching the news.

I don't have to personally experience a human rights lawyer being killed to know that it happened.

Each of our personal experience is rather limited.

Again that's why there is value in reading books.

And I've been interested in China, reading about China, for 25 years.

[gusty relic]

I don't think Americans are qualified to talk about human rights and look at how many Indians have been killed by Americans

[lavish finch]

You are free to think that about Americans.

But American crimes don't absolve China of Chinese crimes.

Americans and Chinese people who care about the truth are qualified to think and talk about what happens anywhere.

I used to live in China. When I did, the government blocked my access to the internet. I know how the Chinese government operates. Like gangsters. Yes, the US government also is very bad. But that doesn't make the Chinese government good.

People in the US and China have more in common with each other than they do with their respective governments.

[gusty relic]

i agree with this

[gusty relic]

but for this，it's strange. Many Chinese have complained that public institutions，like school and police, often treat foreigners as
notable lord, which always make Chinese young people angry.
so what did you come to China for, academy or else?

[hot bison]

I can not believe you used the word "respective" for the chinese government.

[lavish finch]

That's because you don't understand how I used it.

In this case it doesn't mean respect.

[hot bison]

May be

[lavish finch]

It means "belonging or relating separately to each of two or more people or things."

respective not respectful. completely different words.

[hot bison]

Is it like the term best regards in the rejection letter?😂😂

[lavish finch]

No

[hot bison]

Ok.

[lavish finch]

The Chinese have built their economy off the Japanese model of the 80's with some improvements.

Are foreigners treated as notable lords? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong. They are treated with kindness.

But they are irrelevant.

They are wary of foreign intervention and for good reason.

The fear of the yang guizi. The foreign devils.

The non western countries that were able to develop economically were the ones that managed to block foreign intervention.

[serene birch]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1733946590883164199
But in Gaza everything is normal.

[thorny steeple]

Cool i was oral

[gusty relic]

China carried out reform and opening up in the 1980s. If we shut ourselves off， we would never develop economically.

[civic reef]

you are right but even the policy of chinese government currently is not very friendly towards foreigners or foreign companies

their attitude to chinese people themselves is not always good, i personally like chinese people, think mandarin is a beautiful language, but i think i would not like to live in a country with such a government

[gusty relic]

anyhow, I love my government

[maiden path]

how many english teachers are there in this server

[hot bison]

True. Not all individuals possess a soul.

[gusty relic]

possess a Soul？what does this mean？

[thorny steeple]

Hi chat.

[thorny steeple]

Where are u from

China?

[gusty relic]

cn

[thorny steeple]

I got it

[hot bison]

You are advocating a communist ideology. You have become a soulless individual bounded to death and destruction. Like a slave. Individual liberty has no meaning to you nore you understand it. Your existence is not necessary for the world to function. And I'm no longer willing to speak to you. So please reply no longer.

[thorny steeple]

@gusty relic Does the Chinese government give people passports or visas easily?

I want to travel there but I'm not sure

Cuz ideologies explain to you how should you live, what should you interiorize, or maybe who do you support in this case etc

[gusty relic]

sry，i know few about it，i know
We offer visa-free travel to Singapore, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Spain and Malaysia until Nov. 2024

[gusty relic]

People who refuse to discuss because of ideological differences are fit to live in cage. respect

[dusty lodge]

Hi there! I facing with difficulties when I speak about the topic that I don't know well or I don't have enough vocabulary to implement my ideas. Are there any list of frequent vocabularies that everyone should have?