🧠｜serious-chat

[tough gull]

[ornate siren]

@lavish finch maybe

Nope

[sly vault]

How do you get video permission?

[ornate siren]

Here, here

[lavish finch]

"dictate an english tutorship"

What does that mean?

What does dictation, reading aloud what is to be written, have to do with tutoring?

[tawny crane]

hi guys

[sharp raptor]

do we talk politics here or no?

[edgy falcon]

Sure

[static pivot]

Sure

[fathom lagoon]

Do we, sir vivek?

[grand jolt]

But like we ain’t talking about sex even tho we having it regularly

Cuz I’ve seen a couple of people talking about it for hours every day and they got no biches

[flat jetty]

I’M LEGITIMATELY PAYING 5 GRANDS TO The First 7 Person To Message Me "GOD DID" Cus I'm Blessed Being A Millionaire🤝

[thorny steeple]

[thorny steeple]

@static pivot What album are you listening to

[dawn karma]

Hi, Marc_nathan, Is it ok if I ask u a question?

[sly vault]

God is not real

God is dead, and we have killed him

[sly vault]

So what serious topics are we talking about here?

[sly vault]

So

Hmm.. let’s think

[rotund plume]

yeah he is

[dull zealot]

how do you know

[knotty otter]

you know that "god" in this phase means "true"

[manic sonnet]

What is god ? Huh..

[knotty otter]

the one

the creator

[manic sonnet]

Yeah, if you understand so then there's no racial problems , people need to aware of this ..

[knotty otter]

what is the meaning of "racial"

[manic sonnet]

The skin tone, ethnicity bla bla , and so on.. that's wahat I mean ..

[knotty otter]

ye i got this

[golden ridge]

Hi bro

[nova shadow]

join a english club near your area

[golden ridge]

I´m good

I'm good*

[ornate siren]

@golden ridge What it says in your "about me" has always, more or less, been an issue.

"Learning without thinking is useless, but thinking without learning is dangerous".

-Confucius

[golden ridge]

I mean its a subsequent of human nature

[ornate siren]

Since "subsequent" cannot be used as a noun, I don't think I understand your point.

[golden ridge]

subsequent is an adjective

[ornate siren]

Exactly

[golden ridge]

it makes sense in that clause

[golden ridge]

it means sequential

[ornate siren]

But I think you didn't use it as an adjective there.

[golden ridge]

i think you misunderstand

[ornate siren]

I know what it means, and also why I punctuate my comments.

[ornate siren]

I think it would be "I mean it as a consequence of..." or something like that.

[golden ridge]

that would also be correct

[ornate siren]

"Of" almost never follows an adjective.

[lavish finch]

What is consequential or noncosequential thinking?

[golden ridge]

Consequential thinking is the act of calculating the costs and benefits of your actions rather than reacting instantaneously or on autopilot.

In my bio I stress the importance of consequential thinking because when people lose the connection between their actions and their consequences they lose their hold on reality.

People with non consequential proclivities/tendencies are more likely to be shortsighted and live less meaningful lives.

I mean think of what happened in 1719 with the south sea bubble.

Or the more recent crash of 2008.

[lavish finch]

You think I'm wasting my time?

What would you like me to be doing instead of being here?

[golden ridge]

not necessarily.

if anything technology has increased peoples knowledge

no

the dream is to improve your lexicon and english speaking abilities in this server not chatting on ur computer with randoms

depends if u use ur time wisely

native or naive?

well fair enough

no one bro

minions are less intelligent than the average man because of their significantly reduced limbic capacities

i can

keyboard issue tbh

there is meaning behing the pixels

an unveiled tapestry yet to be explored

[lavish finch]

You didn't answser my question. What is a good use of my time?

[golden ridge]

Depends what circumstances you're given.

[lavish finch]

Touching grass

What value does that have for me?

What will I be?

[golden ridge]

Read my bio thoroughly

do u want to get to the packing in dms?

cuz its discord

go #💭｜general this is supposed to be serious

[lavish finch]

...

[thorny steeple]

Ok

[lavish finch]

...

[golden ridge]

this trolling is even worse than mine that was 6 months ago

[lavish finch]

You'd like me to know that I'm being trolled.

And you'd like me to work for a school rather than teach people digitally.

And you don't want me to waste my time.

I guess you really care about me.

[golden ridge]

Lol

[lavish finch]

You also said you don't want me to be such a GEEK.

But you said my question "what will I be?" if I'm not a geek, is bs.

You still there, bobobob?

I guess not.

Leaving

[ornate siren]

The hell has passed here?

[thorny steeple]

Hi everyone

[ornate siren]

Show some respect, boy.

[junior dune]

Hehe

[ornate siren]

It doesn't require one to be a native to be respectful.

You're a native, and you can't even spell properly.

That'll involve problems with your memory.

Excellent for you.

Didn't. You can check anywhere you want.

That's why I am no Shakespeare. Just to show me that you understand, could you please elaborate on my "bio"? No?

Could be.

But you're digressing I see, as you have involved my "bio" in the conversation, which is uncalled for. Let's stay on the topic.

Well, now you're gone. Shame.

I see.

[lavish finch]

Here

[ornate siren]

Hello

[lavish finch]

Thanks for letting us know, Suffi

bye

Bobobob

you there?

[ornate siren]

Touching grass, he is

[lavish finch]

Ok, guess not

[drifting onyx]

HI

[lavish finch]

Let me host a pop up class before Nimafar.

[mighty igloo]

hi

[hallow heron]

anyone want to test my discord overlay out?? i need testers

[neon slate]

Hi

[latent kettle]

so what's up

[pliant mortar]

Hi

[warped mulch]

hi 2

[junior dune]

Hi 3

[ivory vale]

I like your bio sentence! Glad it came up in the conversation, so I became aware of it.

[ornate siren]

Thank you. It's mine, by the way.

[ivory vale]

It really matches my life experience.

Knowing what I know now I realise how often I was correct by ignorance.

(leaving)

[pine flare]

hi

[stiff dew]

hi from indonesia

[meager stump]

@thorny steeple tell me about SONAR

Bro got brusted

Its physics topic

U were talking about phys in chat

Its proper noun ?

[minor finch]

I’m looking for practice with someone native or advanced Help me with something anyone here, please

[thick raptor]

Chat Im serious

[shut junco]

Serious about what?

[thick raptor]

Holla

Comestas el amigos

[shut junco]

Hola amigo/amiga

[thorny steeple]

@thorny steeple this is so serious

[thorny steeple]

[ornate siren]

The channel hasn't been what its name suggests.

[unreal cliff]

you just arent serious enough to realize how serious it is in here

[ornate siren]

Maybe, how can I be serious without the guys here? I'm not into ranting alone, not anymore.

[unreal cliff]

you always gotta remember that the boys are in your heart

[ornate siren]

So it would seem

[fervent fjord]

Hello

[floral sable]

Hullo

[manic sonnet]

Are you guys serious about somethin?

[meager stump]

Yeah in chemistry

[manic sonnet]

I neglect chemistry for now..

[unreal cliff]

can you cook 99.1% pure meth?

[quick ibex]

hi einsteins

[serene fiber]

hi

[static pivot]

@smoky cliffle stop this

[smoky cliff]

Ok

[thorny steeple]

@thorny steeple I am so bored and it is serious

[ornate siren]

Why nothing else?

[brazen crypt]

Are you in university?

You self study All this?

[ornate siren]

Nope, you still need my help

In genetics.

[lavish finch]

I'm here

[ornate siren]

Hello

[lavish finch]

Hi Nocturnal. Hi everyone.

[brazen crypt]

Can you recommend some sources like books etc for physics and its further branches?

[brazen crypt]

Sup

[lavish finch]

What's up is that I'm interested in censorship and the increasing tendency to use the financial system as a military weapon.

[ornate siren]

Sorry, I'm leaving. You, sir, couldn't have come at a worse time for me, but surely, come you have. I appreciate that.

Bye everyone

[lavish finch]

Bye Nocturnal.

The US establishment likes to talk about Russia and China as threats. They froze the assets of Russia in banks around the world. So predictably, Russia along with the other BRICS nations are talking about creating an alternative currency, so that when China wants to pay Russia, for example, they don't need to go through the US banking system.

That's at a macroeconomic level. At at microlevel, there was the case of the Grayzone, a small journalism group, being kicked off of Gofund me for vague reasons. The real reasons are obvious. They promote anti-establishment politics.

Anyone else?

I'll check back later.
Leaving.

[edgy falcon]

To be honest, Mr. James, I don't think that this action will have a great impact. The main currency will be the dollar. The dollar is considered the most robust currency, and if anyone wants to preserve money, they're buying it. I think, even if China's yuan rises, it won't have such a great impact on the world.

I think that the chance of the Euro domination is higher than the menace from Russia and China.

But considering the great clout of China (their export), the notion of menace from them, has the right to exist.

[fossil gale]

Creating a new currency and using between the membership countries is a huge impact to the usage of US dollars. Those countries are manufacturers, natural resource extractors and trader where they also held immense amount of dollars. If they do not exchange US dollars for their own goods and service for something else, their new currency could be strongest after Euro. However, I don't think that could even take a long time before it passes Euros since Europe is an old continent and losing manpower rapidly in every sector.

Think about all the other countries that has to buy their currency for the exchange? This will boost the value of their currency drastically. Especially, if their goods and services are required. Since, Africa, Middle East and most of Asia is in relations with BRICS, I am expecting some kind of a huge impact on changes of world economy.

As well as that, I believe they will be negotiating with some other countries that are most likely on the trade-route from China to Europe to make them join BRICS.

[edgy falcon]

That is, you are right, but we should not forget about the main importer of Chinese "resources". I think they will somehow agree on this, but it is possible that China will insist that their currency be left behind when exporting to the United States. This fact creates the notion of a loss of strength for the dollar, and so on.

In fact, both sides will live on their own.

I really don't think China wants to live only on Russian raw resources.

But on the other hand, they can live at a loss for several years just to make negotiation easier for them.

Okay, since I'm alone here, I'll write a small, fictitious story.

[edgy falcon]

 In the days of yore, in a far-off realm, in a distant era, there resided a young lad of singular temperament. He possessed a meek disposition, yet he harbored an unwavering resolve to shield himself from harm. His character was unblemished, and this purity of spirit often led to conflicts with his companions, who were accustomed to a more squalid way of life. Furthermore, his intellect was quite singular, for once he had formed an opinion and aligned it with his convictions, no other soul could sway his steadfast resolve.
 His abode was nestled within a rustic enclave, and the scenery that unfurled beyond the threshold was nothing short of ineffable. The break of dawn would graciously embrace the vertical axis betwixt his abode's gates, and his dwelling itself was ensconced deep within the heart of a primeval forest. It was as though the all-encompassing verdure sought to lay claim to every inch of the land. The breezes that whispered through the trees and the bracing chill in the air were as commonplace to him as if he had taken residence in a mountainous wilderness.

Sorry, comrades, but I have to leave. You can continue the story yourself if you wish.

[dawn karma]

Hi, stoney

[open summit]

YOOO whats ur major

[sonic dagger]

It’s a good one. I suppose

@fossil gale agree most of your views,but there’s long way to go before the big impact on USD, nevertheless, this’ll be a good start.

[royal stratus]

What’s yore?

[cosmic oriole]

A very antiquated way to say a long time ago

[open summit]

hi guys, is there another adjective for autistic

[sonic lion]

Wish I could say a joke

But let it be

[slate wing]

serious chatto

My name is Gustavo but you can call me Gus

[dapper zinc]

Joe mama 🤪

[thorny steeple]

Yes.

[fresh whale]

Hello

Just a clawn

Nothing more

[dawn ridge]

Hi can someone give me information about THE BIG THREE SOCRATES, PLATO, ARISTOTLE

[deep nacelle]

Is this a really serious-chat?

[somber mist]

I think to yes

What topics people talk here ?

Come on formal people !

[deep nacelle]

I think almost any topic

[somber mist]

I pick one . What is your main goal in your life ?

This ask is for everyone

[lavish finch]

My main goal is to bring myself in as fully as possible wherever I participate, without attempting to control the outcome of whatever is out of my control. In other words I want to see clearly what is and is not in my control.

Anyone else?

[static pivot]

To experience the life

[unique flint]

Hi

[finite stump]

Hi

[unkempt moat]

That's nice.

[worn bolt]

👀

[thorny steeple]

[pseudo lily]

Hi

[thorny steeple]

Hello..

[jade rain]

hi

[candid shuttle]

Hi

[thorny steeple]

Omg hey

[candid shuttle]

oh hey 👋

[worn bolt]

👀

[knotty path]

Hi everyone

[thorny steeple]

Hy

Tell me how to improve pronunciation

[thorny steeple]

ELSA Speak

[ornate siren]

A cacophony of "hi"'s and "hello"'s.....

[keen slate]

pronunciation 70-80% still ok, but the communication skill and fluenciation need good, i think so.

[thorny steeple]

Ohk

[deep mesa]

I just live for my family and my unborn child

I have no other goals in life left.

[ornate siren]

You have an unborn child?

Really unexpected, that was.

[deep mesa]

We are in 12th week.

It's 4,7cm tall ^^

[ornate siren]

We?

[deep mesa]

My wife and me.

[golden ridge]

fluenciation is not a word.

[ornate siren]

Exactly.

[edgy falcon]

As if everything else is correct.

[golden ridge]

For a beginner at least being able to understand what they're saying is enough though.

[edgy falcon]

Really? I don't think it's hard to understand: "Tell me how to improve pronunciation".

[merry mason]

You can listen and watch as many English materials to improve. Imitate the pronunciations of the native speakers as you watch and listen

[thorny steeple]

Ohk

[stable frigate]

How can I improve my pronunciation as well as English grammar.

[shut junco]

The same way you would improve any skill. With practice.

[smoky skiff]

Could make them sound taller if you said 47mm tall

[smoky skiff]

But it sounds good. Let's make it mainstream

[thorny steeple]

hey hey heyooo hru peo lady @smoky skiff

[fossil umbra]

Hey guys

[worn bolt]

👀

[fossil umbra]

How r u

[smoky skiff]

Well.

[thorny steeple]

i'm glad to hear

that

[smoky skiff]

I hope you are well as well. @thorny steeple

[thorny steeple]

yeah not bad just chilling here . At the same time my mind is busy

[smoky skiff]

Well. We are both well. That's swell.

[thorny steeple]

yes lady

[wispy juniper]

I wanna put forward a really serious question

Why is “fluent” the highest ranked role? I thought this word meant being able to speak with smoothness and ease. As if advanced speakers from upper C1 to C2 aren’t able to do that. I think a better choice of words would be something like proficient

[exotic spade]

hi

[worn bolt]

👀

[thorny steeple]

[deep nacelle]

Hello new chat

[cursive estuary]

Oi

Cali thefts have been insane lately

[robust shore]

what's the different between
" OWE " n " OWN ?

[cursive estuary]

a quick google search could tell you the answer ngl

[thorny steeple]

[mighty kernel]

"Micheal let his friend Kevin borrow fifty dollars last weekend. He now owes him back fifty dollars.”
“Oh that golden retriever running over there? Yes, I’m the owner. I’ve had him since he was a puppy!”

[placid jay]

https://tenor.com/view/bart-the-simpsons-cake-at-least-you-tried-throw-gif-4970812

[wispy juniper]

let bro cook

[somber mist]

Hi everyone !

Whats up ?

[ornate siren]

This chat's become dead.

[wispy juniper]

yea it looks dead fr

I left a serious question above and no one answered

[placid jay]

there's no topic to talk about

[smoky skiff]

Owe means you have to pay back a loan from somebody. Own means a thing belongs to you totally.

[smoky skiff]

Too tough

[indigo yew]

Write one

[ornate siren]

You're really samsam's husband?

[agile gyro]

What was first

An egg

Or a chicken

Seems serious to me

[cursive estuary]

yeah yesterday she bought me for 1.25$

[agile gyro]

Seems legit

Isn't it against the law tho?

[cursive estuary]

There's no such thing as 'the law' just human made rules

[agile gyro]

Yup the law is just a bunch of papers with silly stuf written on it

BUT

1.25 is a little bit to cheap

You should value yourself more

[cursive estuary]

it's because I was at the dollar store, but then inflation strike

[agile gyro]

Hm good point

She seized the opportunity

Sneaky

[thorny steeple]

کیف حالک

Sorry wrong keyboard

How u all doing

[ornate siren]

Like I said.

Yo, @static pivot, where's #📝｜proofreading ?

For some reason, it's hidden.

[agile gyro]

Well, we are having fun

Kinda

Yooo

A girl

Maybe Im living under the rock but I remember the old times when there were mostly gamers lacking sleep and good nutrition

[thorny steeple]

Sus bro very suspicious

[agile gyro]

Yeah im joking ofc

Daydreaming

Bout girls

(For some reason i cant get one)

[thorny steeple]

U can't get a date like that be more kind to her

Where you from

But don't get ur hopes up I never had one either

It's OK I can give u some advice

[agile gyro]

Dont get me wrong, that wasnt a serious request, I watched too much beluga

[thorny steeple]

From my experience in picking up girls I'll say keep trying but I can't say for how long u have to try

Cuz I'm still single

[agile gyro]

Well

We must wait patiently

Lurking for pr-

I havent wrote that down

Technically speaking hah

Hi

How its going

Same here, thx

Well nice chat indeed

[last forge]

Hi guys

[agile gyro]

But I have to go, calculus awaits

Cya

[ornate siren]

The hell's happening here?

[agile gyro]

Oh wait that was more serious than i thought xdd

[agile gyro]

Nothin

Nothin really

Just messin around

(Approx. center europe)

Not a very known place

Simmilar to Holland

[thorny steeple]

I see what u did

serious chat

doesnt seem like it is.

dumbo chat

[ornate siren]

It has become dead

[thorny steeple]

fr.

lets make it active.

[ornate siren]

What do we do?

[thorny steeple]

lets start a topic

which would be very debatable

wht ya say??

[ornate siren]

You start.

[thorny steeple]

aight

wht do you think abt god?

[ornate siren]

God can be considered a great meme. I conform to Dawkins.

[thorny steeple]

dawkins?

?define dawkins

[cursive bobcat]

:x: That word could not be found in the dictionary.

[ornate siren]

Oh....

[thorny steeple]

dumbass dictionary

[ornate siren]

I mean Sir Richard Dawkins, promulgator of the meme concept.

[thorny steeple]

ah.. okoki get u now

wht abt religion , wht u think/?

should everyone have the rights to follow whtever they want?

[ornate siren]

Religions are subsets of the God meme.

[thorny steeple]

or they should not?

[thorny steeple]

[ornate siren]

Whichever subset one likes, one can conform to.

[thorny steeple]

tru tru

i agree on tht.

and wht do you think abt this server?

lol. idk wht im askin but still.

[ornate siren]

Now THAT. That is not very debatable.

But this server is excellent.

[thorny steeple]

just tell me man, just asking casually.

[ornate siren]

Lots of facilities.

[thorny steeple]

hm hmm..

i miss the old days tbh

and old people as well.

[ornate siren]

What old days?

[thorny steeple]

umm, like...

the old members who used to be active here.

[ornate siren]

Exactly, I mean in this channel.

Like Mr. Green himself. I used to debate a lot with him, back when this channel was alive. The others, like eisan, Angelline, you know.

[thorny steeple]

yupp yupp

[thorny steeple]

Whatsup

[ornate siren]

The fools are rushing in where the angels are fearing to tread.

Looks like you hadn't much to debate on.

(leaving, bye)

[supple onyx]

Yooo

[agile gyro]

Hullo

[agile gyro]

Well, I in my opinion it is hard to debate only on serious topics, because writing about serious topics is not a pleasure, but a drill, furthermore people may quickly run out of ideas in a forced conversation

But on the other hand thats probably why it is a separate chat

So I will just move with jokes somewhere else to leave it serious😙

Have a good day everyone

[ornate siren]

It IS a pleasure, at least to me.

[agile gyro]

I do not doubt that, but I think this is the same as, for example, for people who like playing very time consuming strategic games. The entertainment like this is very sublime, so there are not many people who relish doing it, thus the chat is most of the time dead

[wispy juniper]

God is a necessary being for everything to make sense since we cannot have an infinite regression of dependent things nor can we come from nothing. That is coupled with the fact that we have an innate disposition to believe in a creator. I think it is only rational to acknowledge his existence.

[placid jay]

who created god?

why do you think your god is different from all gods created by humans

[wispy juniper]

nothing, he always existed. That's the point of the INDEPENDENT entity because by logical deduction you have to have an independent entity for dependent things to come

[wispy juniper]

I haven't said anything about any god

we haven't got there yet

[thorny steeple]

Who created the universe?

[livid prism]

Child. Everyone knows the FSM created the universe.

By the way, the Bible contradicts itself.

[thorny steeple]

U kidding, right
Do u have an empty mind?

[livid prism]

No way child.

You do though.

[wispy juniper]

you jumped into religions too quickly my friend

[thorny steeple]

Because it was distorted

[livid prism]

I know.

[wispy juniper]

address the God argument first

[livid prism]

My friend just said to say that.

What is the god argument?

[wispy juniper]

read above

[placid jay]

We just don't know, that's the real answer. both gods creating the universe and Big Bang Theory has a lot of flaws

[wispy juniper]

Lol

[livid prism]

Guys just use chatGPT and it will tell you everything.

[thorny steeple]

don't you know? Didn't the Bible give u the answer?

[wispy juniper]

just because you are not certain it doesn't necessitate that everyone must be the same

[placid jay]

you're willing to break your logic when it comes to your god but not something like Big Bang Theory

[wispy juniper]

I didn't break my logic, I followed it

if you think my stance is illogical tell my why and please provide me with the logical argument

btw, "we don't know" is not a logical argument

and big bang theory doesn't contradict God's existence

[placid jay]

because you said gods came from nothing but in fact gods is a beliefs which is created by mankind's

it's like saying "all humans are dumb, except me" you created your own logic that breaks for your favor

[placid jay]

every religions or gods has their version of creation

[wispy juniper]

I didn't say that

[placid jay]

being 100% certain on things like creation of the universe is arrogance

[placid jay]

of course i'm always gonna be agnostic everything has flaws

[wispy juniper]

you thinking being certain about this is definitely arrogance is the real arrogance

[wispy juniper]

yes because you're thinking of it as a man made concept

but theists don't look at it like that

you think you're unbiased but you're

hold bro

you were taking way too long before to cook

[placid jay]

how is it arrogance when there's more than a thousand version of creation of the universe and none agreed into one conclusion.

why do you think you're the one that's special

[wispy juniper]

I need to read everything hold up lmao

[wispy juniper]

I said God always existed

not came from nothing

[placid jay]

well, we can talk in my native language if you want. you should look at my english level instead

[wispy juniper]

logical deduction necessitates that

[wispy juniper]

don't take it as an insult

[placid jay]

again gods is created by mankind

[wispy juniper]

I meant I need time to respond

[wispy juniper]

wait bro

isn't that the arrogance you accused me of earlier?

[wispy juniper]

that's not the case

[placid jay]

how is it biased if i'm lookin at everyones claim on creation of the universe with skepticism

falling for one is biased

[wispy juniper]

throughout history the message of god has been very similar

[wispy juniper]

you said it's man made

how do you know

wasn't that your argument?

[placid jay]

odin created the universe in fire & ice. how is that similar?

[wispy juniper]

when people thought oden was a god other people in that same era had a belief that is similar to ours today

I didn't say every theist had the same perception of God.

rather I was comparing different eras

[wispy juniper]

you fell for the atheist position

[placid jay]

learn what an atheist is first dude

[wispy juniper]

what is an atheist?

[placid jay]

nah that's for you. you claim that i'm in atheist position

[wispy juniper]

you implied that my understanding of atheism is incorrect

so I asked you what is the right one

I thought you were an agnostic at first but then you said God is a man made concept which is very atheistic

[placid jay]

because all known gods is created by mankind. but if you're talking about ultimate being that created the universe then we don't know. there's no religion or beliefs that proves that their answer is 100% correct.

[wispy juniper]

isn't the ultimate being that created the universe God?

[placid jay]

@wispy juniper can i ask you which god do you believe is the ultimate true god?

[narrow bay]

If religion did not exist then there would be no atheists

[wispy juniper]

just because there are a lot of conflicting beliefs it doesn't mean they are therefore all invalid

[placid jay]

if god really exist, it doesn't need religion. because religion is human creation. therefore atheist would exist without religion

[wispy juniper]

I believe in Allah, but I didn't wanna get here first because I realized your understanding of the conflict of religions is not right

[wispy juniper]

bro you're assuming it's human creation

[placid jay]

@narrow bay why you laughing? you can create a religion out of everything

[wispy juniper]

believers say it's a revelation

[placid jay]

how is it assumption? that's how religion is created. human just look at something then yeah let's create religion to worship this

[wispy juniper]

when u argue you need look into others perspectives with THEIR lens not yours

you'll get nowhere if u just assumed it's man made while arguing

[wispy juniper]

BRUH

[placid jay]

then who created religions?

[wispy juniper]

God sent prophets in every era with revelation to guide people into obeying his will

[placid jay]

this is why i became agnostic, no one can prove or disprove the existence of god because all known gods is a belief, and beliefs doesn't need to be right or wrong

[wispy juniper]

you're not agnostic bro

[placid jay]

@wispy juniper if you can't choose one god to believe in you're pretty much an agnostic

[wispy juniper]

if you disapprove of all of them and say they don't exist you're pretty much an atheist

[wispy juniper]

.

btw Allah just means The God but in Arabic

[placid jay]

" Allah is considered the one and only God, the Creator of the universe, and the source of all existence." you're pretty much an atheist to every other religion

[wispy juniper]

no lmao

[placid jay]

then you're not a true muslim

[wispy juniper]

huh

[placid jay]

you're a traitor to your religion

because base on what you're saying you believe in other gods too

[wispy juniper]

I don't believe in other religions beliefs, but that doesn't make me an atheist to them

[placid jay]

come on bro wtf

[wispy juniper]

atheist means without the belief of god

it doesn't indicate a specific religion

if what you're saying is correct then no one is a theist because they're atheists to other religions

[placid jay]

but you need to claim that other religion's god is false god, otherwise you can't claim that allah is the real god.

[thorny steeple]

Hi , does anyone know how to stop feeling anxious at time to start speaking?.

[wispy juniper]

I believe the Abrahamic religions were distorted and tampered with, not necessarily false all together

[wispy juniper]

you have to get used to it

and know that making mistakes is normal

[placid jay]

you might just need to get used to it, and it will just go away the more you practice

[wispy juniper]

fear comes from inexperience or incompetence. Thus, when you speak a lot and you develop experience and skill your anxiety will disappear

[thorny steeple]

Okay thanks you bouth of you , i often feel anxious and my level fall incosiderly and i seem like a beginer 😦

But okay it's good to hear your advices

[wispy juniper]

np bro

it happens to everyone

[thorny steeple]

By the way i have trobles remembering in my own language xd and to learn another vocabulary in another language is like to get the imposible jajaaj but i'm here geting by

[wispy juniper]

@placid jay can we continue our discussion later? I gotta go sleep now srry

[placid jay]

i recommend checking out this channel https://www.youtube.com/@askvinh i learned a lot from him

[thorny steeple]

Sweet sleep bro

[worn bolt]

👀

[placid jay]

np bro, i need to eat too

[wispy juniper]

thx

[stiff dew]

good morning from indonesia

[thorny steeple]

G. Morning from India.

[static pivot]

hello linda

[static pivot]

hey

[thorny steeple]

[prisma cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/moustache-oru-thathwika-avalokanam-meehsa-meesha-piri-slyle-gif-7824180003700484204

[placid jay]

@prisma cipher are you from india?

idk how but I unintentionally learn a lot about india on the internet

[golden ridge]

Maybe you should take a nap and see how you feel after

It helps trust me.

[wispy juniper]

you mean what's the point?

I would say there are multiple reasons that give meaning to life. The first one is the theological reason imo which is the belief that life is a test for humans to differentiate between good and evil. The second reason is to simply experience life with the good and bad that it offers and to try in the process to leave a legacy for the people that will come after you.

Also, building different types of relationships with other people can bring a strong sense of meaning to your life.

Ultimately tho I think the belief in god and that life is a test is what gives the most meaning because it gives you a clear purpose and will set you free from worrying too much about worldly stuff

Obviously, I'm a muslim so I'm a bit biased but that doesn't invalidate the legitimacy of the purpose religion can give you

[true lark]

that, I find a verry commendable stance.

[prisma cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/gethu-samuthirakani-heroes-gif-rajini-murugan-movie-gif-16251651468180062545

What do you mean it just a moustache

[thorny steeple]

Hello..

[gray lynx]

hello

[pliant mortar]

Hi

[rustic fractal]

hello

[vivid canyon]

This is a VERY serious chat when it comes to greetings lol hi

[static pivot]

Lets talk about neuroscience

[vivid canyon]

That does not sound like it's within my wheelhouse, honestly. I doubt I could keep up on that topic.

[static pivot]

Wanna vc?

[vivid canyon]

Nah.

[vestal hazel]

Huberman effects?

[static pivot]

What

[vivid canyon]

I did a quick Google search, apparently it's some sort of breathing exercise? I imagine that Aleyna knows much more of it than I. Something to do with a DEEEEEEEP breath in through the nose to fill the lungs, and then to sigh it out.

[vestal hazel]

I mean he is the god of the field you're interested in

how come you haven't heard of him before

[vivid canyon]

What field, and who specifically?

[vestal hazel]

Neuroscience?

[vivid canyon]

Who on Earth said it's my interest?

[strange laurel]

there is none

there is no point in anything your doing & no point in anything the world says

everything that we know right now might or might not be fake but we will never know

[vivid canyon]

That sounds like some nihilism right there, if I'm not mistaken.

[strange laurel]

idk what that is but that’s always what i’ve lived by lol

[vestal hazel]

Nope I meant @static pivot is kind of into talking about neuroscience not you

[vivid canyon]

Oof, not what I would advise but hey, you do you.

[vivid canyon]

Ah, fair enough 🙂

Someone can have an interest in a topic without knowing every person and every concept in that topic.

[vestal hazel]

Sure of course but if someone talks about some topic, he should know it at least

[vivid canyon]

That's why there's a hierarchy of competance, something like...

Master
Journeyman
Apprentice
Hobbyist
Amateur

And I'm not ascribing any of those to Vivek, I'm just articulating that I don't think it's reasonable to expect someone with 'an interest' to know every person and every concept in a given field.

[vestal hazel]

Otherwise, all of they say is nothing but a trash

[static pivot]

Ive no idea about neuroscience

Sorry mate

[vestal hazel]

No worries 🙂

[static pivot]

But im in vc

If you guys wanna talk

[vestal hazel]

What does vc stand for?

[static pivot]

Voice chat or voice call

[vestal hazel]

oooh such a boomer I am

sorry 🙂

[dry bison]

Hye

Serious peeps 💀

[cursive estuary]

no one here is serious

we just pretend

[placid jay]

#🫂｜beginner-chat & #💭｜general are full of troll users, and some trolls there overlap on this channel

[dry bison]

Like mature??

[true lark]

nothing right now xd

[static pivot]

Its okay

Same with me

I'm old

[ornate siren]

I'm lost among the insouciant guys, help me

[ornate siren]

What are your interests? Do you take particular interest where I think you do (from your bio)?

[worn bolt]

👀

[fleet nimbus]

Wsg gees

[median thorn]

HI

[grand parrot]

hello

this is a serious chat but i don't think it's serious

hahahahahahaaahahahahhaha

[median thorn]

WHY

[grand parrot]

they all think theyre smart

[median thorn]

IM SMART

are u ?

https://tenor.com/view/anime-aesthetic-gif-19196917

[pallid surge]

If you could go back in time any point in history; you are born in a fairly wealthy family with all your memories from the future.

Which period would you choose?

What would you try to change? Which event?

[thorny steeple]

Anything !!, i heard something that said : all things you have lived and suffered , all happy moments and sad moments made the person who you are right now.

It's necesary walk for experiencies that will take you to sad moments it will be sucked when you'll be at that place , but after that you becomes super strong and you will have knowledge.

[pallid surge]

I think you misunderstood my question

[thorny steeple]

Okey so , The King Salomon said , anything there is down the sun is new , all things that have been made, already are known,

[gray spruce]

Yep, the part where xia says "no point in anything you're doing" does kinda make it nihilism.

[formal scaffold]

I wouldn't change anything since you can never know the impact of that (Butterfly effect), I'm content with what I have in this life 🙂

[gray spruce]

Might be a waste, but maybe around 5 years before or just to restart my life. If my memory doesn't degrade and is ever-present, that is. I've made some bad decisions and questionable actions, so it would be cool to have a fresh start. I'd change everything.

[gray spruce]

Good answer.

[formal scaffold]

To answer your take on how do people here think they are smart, first I have to explain what relativety is, we can't be smart until we compare ourselves to ..... wait I'm already acting smart x_X

[thorny steeple]

Butter flyng ?

[thorny steeple]

I have read you and i understand you

[gray spruce]

☺️

[formal scaffold]

cholestrol_fly

[thorny steeple]

Xactly jaja

For what works to be elegant ?

Smart*

Wht do you mean being like a smart person, in google of meaning it say to be inteligente

If most people as you say they are wanting to pretend to presum an intelectual coeficient , may be we have to think the reason .

[golden ridge]

I wouldn't change a single thing

Mostly because I believe the human era was predetermined

[golden ridge]

Inteligente in english is spelt intelligent.

[thorny steeple]

I know jajaja but i didn't sleep yet , i'm coming back to my home from work

Then i'm tired and perhaps confused some words 🥴

[golden ridge]

It's ok lol

[thorny steeple]

I laugh but i agree anyway

That what you'v said i belive it

I think that the Creator made all things since before were created

He thoughts the creation

[golden ridge]

So you are monotheistic?

[thorny steeple]

An put his power over the face of his existence

[thorny steeple]

A supreme Allmighty only might be one

Otherway the another God already wouldn't be allmighty

So ...

what do you think about it

[oak pewter]

what ij monothiestic ?

[thorny steeple]

Means to belive in a singular God

As well there are Poli-teist

[golden ridge]

Hmm, cosmogeny is definitely a hard subject to tackle. In general I would say that I don't believe in a sentient pansophical creator as it provides many foreboding questions and consequences.

But humans have used the idea of such creators to increase their sagacity and advance their technologies to maximum. Although the downside to these ideas is that they have indirectly caused destitute to many minorities and riches for the higher echelon which many are insouciant and subservient to.

[golden ridge]

The belief in a single god or creator

[thorny steeple]

That is religion, i'm talking about someone who created the existence

As well we think about how works the system fo our body , we can research about what or who created all

We can do questions about if It really is an inteligent being

Or something that creat all randomly

[golden ridge]

Im generalising "religion" as a monotheistic one.

[thorny steeple]

By the way I'm christian if i could be able to talk about in an advanced level would be super great, but i'm beginer 😦 , but i get by to tell you things like thouse

[golden ridge]

It's ok, do you speak spanish?

Or are you fluent in spanish?

[thorny steeple]

Yeah i am a spanish speaker

Native

[golden ridge]

You can message to me in spanish if you think it will be easier

I can understand spanish but im not fluent yet

[thorny steeple]

Or i could use google translate but i would be dirty

Haha okey let's start

What do you think about God , How do you place them ?

[formal scaffold]

if you think he's that smart wouldn't you consider to communicate with him

[thorny steeple]

Haha i think anybody is smart , not even the most smarter of smarter

Is just to have the insight of the panoram

Of life

[gray spruce]

It's cosmogony. 😉

[thorny steeple]

As i said before , There is no nathing new donw the Son

[formal scaffold]

cosmos science?

[gray spruce]

Cosmogony is the study of how the universe came into being or originated.

[formal scaffold]

my take on that is to study the place origine you should also study he other concepts of universe like "time" for instance

[gray spruce]

Mhm.

I believe we are all the same consciousness travelling through different lives, losing all sense of memories within each rebirth. Search "The Egg" on Google, it's a fascinating read.

[formal scaffold]

I remember having dreams of a past life when I was a kid in school even tho I've never seen was nor told about ..nor heared about school

[gray spruce]

That is very fascinating. Thanks for sharing.

[thorny steeple]

I think we aren't creted by to be born , grew up and to dead , we only have to think about all of our ways , some random never could creat us

Must there be someone who did

[formal scaffold]

but someone can say our parents created us

[thorny steeple]

I give to understnd myself bad xd

I mean Must there be someone who creat us for a better porpouse

[gray spruce]

Well, not necessarily.

[thorny steeple]

Have you thought about the existence of the word VANITY ?

[formal scaffold]

Appearently we are the smartest creatures on earth than can easily mess with the ecology's balance, and with great power comes great responsability, if there would be a purpose I think it is to make the world a better place ... not for just humans but also every living creature on it.

[gray spruce]

Yeah.

[gray spruce]

Indeed. We have been blessed with this environment. The best we can do is to nourish what gave life to us by not repeatedly attempting to kill it for material gains...

[thorny steeple]

If humans being as well you are saying would be like that just perfection the puzzle would be perfect

[formal scaffold]

btw how was I rude earlier on VC? I was so confused

[thorny steeple]

Completed too

Done

[gray spruce]

Pretty sure it was all a joke. Don't worry about it.

[thorny steeple]

Begin to make sanse the bible when you say that , the injust human beings who are injust with nature

[formal scaffold]

On another note if you are born in this world you'd feel indebted for you can't survive without "ecology" "your parent's" "your country that provides safety" i think that's where people drew their purpose from initially

[formal scaffold]

true

[thorny steeple]

And also why yisus came to dead on the cruz for save the human being from his imperfect nature

[upper prairie]

htgtj

mafrdfghgdxstfcfg

can eney want to talk me

[thorny steeple]

I heard that he said if we belive him , he will give us a new body perfect and uncorruptable

[formal scaffold]

just believing??

[thorny steeple]

No , starting to try change our way of live

Our life , otherwise in vane we would be save by him

[formal scaffold]

change??? you mean from bad to good? cause there are people who are initially good so they don't need change??

[thorny steeple]

But i read that He would change the hearts and he would put his spirit for ministrate to whoever that hear him telling them in their hearth the truth .

[formal scaffold]

so believe + change right?

[thorny steeple]

Just for be saint for know him and show that the work was made upon you

Otherwaise he never did it

[formal scaffold]

so believing and being saint??

[thorny steeple]

With his powe of course

Yea this is the way that Yisus save you , he put his spirit for talk to you and and convence you , and also change your last hearth instead of a new hearh you may hear him and agree with him

[formal scaffold]

yep I think I'm safe with this kinda of broad description to get his Intercession

[thorny steeple]

But there is one thing that we have to recognize

That work works , because he die on the cruce to recive the punishment

Because someone had to recive it

Otherwaise The Just God Wouldn't be perfecrly just

If He forgive us and doesn't a judgement where would stay his justice ?

But as he is just , he had to recive all our injustice for justify us and to presenting us front of him without Sin

And without dirtiness

In this way i will be your God and you will be my people he said, and i will gather you from all Country

Nobody will cry any more nor anybody will die becuase i will be with them forever

He is the God i trust

He made us as He is

He is more human and person than us , he loves more than us , and he created us like his image and likeness

[formal scaffold]

did he create humans who were born before he was???

[thorny steeple]

In the Begining he was in the world, and the word was with God, and the Word was with God

That Word was made flesh

He came to the world to save what was lost

[formal scaffold]

so is it a yes or no?

[thorny steeple]

In the world he was , and to his own he came , but his own people did not recive him

[thorny steeple]

He was before earth was created

He created the world with his father

[formal scaffold]

i was talking about his birthday you know 0 AD

[thorny steeple]

He is the same image of sustance of his father , his father is unsighted most he show who is the father

[formal scaffold]

got you thanks for explaining

[thorny steeple]

It's because ther is a profecy he healthed sick people , resucited many men , and cast out demons for show he was the hoped Son of God who would save the creation

[formal scaffold]

He sure did

[thorny steeple]

And he rescuited

For complete his work

There is no sepulture of him

We will be resucited by him because of his resurrection

[vivid canyon]

Everyone has something in the way of interests, what are you trying to ask?

[ornate siren]

I'm trying to know of your interests.

God, God, God.

[vital delta]

hey everyone

[lavish finch]

Hello

So the topic here today is theology.

People ready for a change of topic?

[lavish finch]

This is a mind read

Would you like to check with the people here if this is true?

[formal scaffold]

my fav topic :3

[lavish finch]

Really?

[formal scaffold]

I think it is because it influences my life a lot personally

[lavish finch]

Ok

Would you like to continue it? Please go ahead.

…

Would you write one line at a time rather than in paragraphs?

[formal scaffold]

I'm muslim since birth, I adapted that relegion since I was a kid , but when I became a teen I started questioning it since there are other options, even that of denying the existance of god, or changing his identity, or having multiple gods, It was mindblowing to me and I took it as god exists but every culture or groupe of people has their own interpretation of him/them, that's why I tried to get in contact with god and I'd assume i succeed in doing so

[formal scaffold]

yeah sorry

[lavish finch]

So you believe God exists and different people interpret God differently.

[formal scaffold]

Yeah

[lavish finch]

And you believe you will succeed in contacting God. Or perhaps have already succeeded.

[formal scaffold]

Probably, or else it'd be a higher life form for hearing my requests that I didn't even spout out loud

[lavish finch]

So you’re not sure if you’re in contact with God but you’re in contact with some being or a higher life form that may be God?

[formal scaffold]

I also think there's no certeinty of god's existance that's why we have belief, it covers the aspects that can't be explained ig

[formal scaffold]

I'd assume it's god

[lavish finch]

How does it feel to be connected to what you assume is God?

[formal scaffold]

I regret doing so

I done it three times by saying : "if you are god and you truly exist do this and this"n I should've worked on my belief using other methods

[lavish finch]

Really? That’s unexpected.

You tell God what to do?

[formal scaffold]

some kind of request yeah

[formal scaffold]

pretty egoistic from my end don't you think?

[lavish finch]

No I don’t think so.

[formal scaffold]

what do you think about it? or about the whole thing "theology"

[lavish finch]

I don’t believe in God. But if I did I’m sure I would negotiate with him for things that I wanted.

[formal scaffold]

I'm scared of him ... of the uknown that's why I refrained from doing so, until I doubted him that is.

[lavish finch]

I believe in the unknown.

[formal scaffold]

what do you feel about it? or how do you see it as?

[lavish finch]

The unknown is a great source of power and creativity.

I like to approach the edge of the unknown.

[formal scaffold]

I think we are born ignorant while everything is unknown and we become smarter by absorbing from it

[lavish finch]

I think some things can be known.

Cogito ergo sum, for example.

[formal scaffold]

what's that ?

[lavish finch]

DesCartes, the philosopher who said, I think therefore I am.

[formal scaffold]

can't deny that claim

[lavish finch]

That I am, can be known. It cannot be doubted.

[formal scaffold]

do you think god is unknown or known and at the same time unknown? or just known?

[lavish finch]

It depends on the definition. Of God.

Most things are unknown.

[formal scaffold]

but according to "Cogito ergo sum" if he thinks than he's known right?

[lavish finch]

Who?

[formal scaffold]

God

[lavish finch]

That’s a big if.

If a unicorn thinks, then yes he is.

But there’s no reason for me to believe that there is a unicorn thinking.

[formal scaffold]

why not?

[lavish finch]

That which can be asserted without reason can be dismissed without reason.

[formal scaffold]

true

let's say I create a sect that belives in unicorns and we believe on it so hard we find refuge in its existance in our imagination of course, it's affecting us and it has an influence on us, since it has an influence on us can we really discard its existance? or not?

[lavish finch]

Our thoughts certainly have a kind of reality to them. I can influence myself based on what I think about.

For example I could convince myself you’re trying to kill me. And make choices based on that belief. I might be terrified. I might take action. It can have a real influence on me. Even if it’s completely not true.

[formal scaffold]

" if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth"

[lavish finch]

I make a distinction between lying and things which are simply untrue.

I don’t think people who believe in God are lying.

For a lie I would require some intention to deceive.

[formal scaffold]

I got you 😄

[lavish finch]

It’s simply possible for us to have false beliefs.

I think we all have false beliefs about all kinds of things all the time.

As a general practice I like to develop the quality of my critical thinking to reduce my false beliefs as much as possible.

Many people who have believed in God have done the same.

There’s a long and very respectable tradition of religious people who were philosophers thinking about what it means to believe in God.

And I think it’s very instructive to see what conclusions they drew and what questions they asked.

Religious people are not stupid.

[formal scaffold]

I agree while some relegions or groupes refrain and punishes those who questions their belief, some of them encourage them to do so, even in some holy books

[lavish finch]

Plato who I like to study had an enormous impact on Christianity for hundreds of years.

[formal scaffold]

I've read the book you suggested about plato's apology, is there another book you would suggest for me?

[lavish finch]

Yes. Bertrand Russell’s introduction to Western philosophy.

I can send it to you if you like.

Much of the book is a review of the history of religious thinking.

[formal scaffold]

I'd like to. .. thanks a bunch

also I think the belief of god takes both the heart and mind to achieve it, a lot of heart that is since Socrates said about his own wisdom that is so little compared to that of god, he covered the rest using his heart at least that's what I assume

since he is perfect it'll take forever to study him but the more you know the more you approach believing in him

[lavish finch]

I also believe there is a meaningful distinction between heart and mind, what I usually talk about as feeling and thinking.

We need both.

[formal scaffold]

I tend to mix them sometimes

[lavish finch]

I don’t see anything wrong with that. That’s how I believe we create meaning in our lives.

[formal scaffold]

sometimes because of ego right?

[lavish finch]

not sure what you mean. The word ego has some negative connotations. But to me it just means the self.

I take it for granted that we have a self and that attending to our self makes sense.

I see it as evidence of a healthy psychology to take care of ourselves.

My impression of the word ego is that it is used to denigrate people for being selfish. Overly focused on themselves.

I don’t see that as being particularly helpful.

[formal scaffold]

I believe in balance in everything so I try to be less egoiste is that good or bad?

not in everything in most things*

[lavish finch]

I completely agree. I use different words but they mean essentially the same thing.

We have a self but there is a whole world in addition to our self.

And it’s useful to find ways to be in harmony with the world.

Otherwise we can create significant problems for our self.

[formal scaffold]

what do you think are the practices that'll help us achieving that balance?

[lavish finch]

Self reflection for starters.

Clarifying our goals.

[formal scaffold]

I'm trying to limit my hate, bc sometimes I tend to hate the things that i judge wrong, so that if I'm wrong with my judgment I won't cause no harm to myself

so isn't it my ego who's pushing me to do that? if my ego is my self, and my self is imperfect/wrong, is it the reason why some people hate themselves? since they expect a lot from it? yet it fails them

[lavish finch]

I love your question.

It’s completely natural to have so-called negative feelings. Like anger. Hate is anger mixed in with judgment.

I consider that to be natural too. However acting on it can be extremely destructive.

I would make space for my anger. Allow myself to have it fully. Without acting on it.

that would give me an opportunity to understand

Then we can use the anger in a constructive manner towards our goals.

I’m guessing we’re angry because we want something from ourselves that we’re not getting

But attacking ourselves won’t help us toward that goal. It will actually make accomplishing our goal more difficult

[formal scaffold]

so I'm not just my ego maybe I think ego is part of me and there are other part of me that balances that out or I might be wrong

[lavish finch]

there are different theories of the self. Without getting too theoretical I do think there are different parts to our self.

It’s possible to explore some of those parts and understand them or change them through self introspection

[formal scaffold]

introspection?

[lavish finch]

The part that attacks our self and acts self-destructively I call our survivor role.

Introspection. Looking inside our self.

Exploring what we think and feel.

Literally looking inward.

[formal scaffold]

survivor? but it destruct doesn't it?

[lavish finch]

Self-destructive habits that we learned a long time ago.

They helped us survive long ago. But now they get in the way.

[formal scaffold]

is it like when the forest burns to enrich the soil or when the bone brokes to become stronger?

[lavish finch]

everyone has a survivor role

It’s a kind of tragic expression of a more life fulfilling part of our self

For example when you say you hate yourself. That’s a tragic expression of the care I’m sure you have for yourself.

You really love yourself.

But it’s expressed in a tragic way

[formal scaffold]

and without it what will happen to us?

[lavish finch]

Without it we can connect to our real self more directly and live a meaningful and fulfilling life

We can accomplish our goals

more efficiently use our life energy

Develop meaningful relationships

And do anything we want

[formal scaffold]

for me loathing myself helps me to discover where my limits are, how imperfect I am, motivate me to love myself not by sto hating but trying to live up to that perfect image to the limite that I can afford

[lavish finch]

We all have limits

And I bet you could motivate yourself without hating yourself

I wonder what the cost is to you of hating yourself

[formal scaffold]

Pain?

[lavish finch]

If you could motivate yourself without pain would you?

[formal scaffold]

I motivate myself throught both i'd say

[lavish finch]

I don’t think we completely eliminate pain

Just unnecessary pain

Pain is a part of life

Dissatisfaction, disappointment, irritation,

They are part of a balanced life

[formal scaffold]

totally agree

without pain I doubt some people will refrain from touching fire

[lavish finch]

I have enjoyed our conversation. I’m gonna hop back onto my bicycle now. If you start listening to or reading the history of Western philosophy do let me know. I’m listening to it myself right now. Would love to talk about it more.

[formal scaffold]

likewise thank you

[formal scaffold]

I love the part where it described plato as a demon, i'd guess you are similar to that in a sense

[ornate siren]

Heavens, I missed a lot.

[gray spruce]

Indeed, haha.

[last geyser]

homelander join the chat

[formal scaffold]

welcome

[last geyser]

thanks

[formal scaffold]

"sonunu düşünen kahraman olamaz"

[last geyser]

doğru

[static pivot]

Anyone interested in talking about G20?

[formal scaffold]

define G20

[static pivot]

G20 summit

https://www.g20.org/en/

[ornate siren]

I'll be glad to also, thanks.

[lavish finch]

Yes

[formal scaffold]

is it a regular meeting or an urgent one?? the one that'll take place in India?

[lavish finch]

I’m interested in talking about the institution.

[thorny steeple]

@lavish finch wao bro have you seen Lgbtq poeple hating Christians ?, or much worst , they often want to kill them meanwhile Christians just are talking about their punt of view 😦

No only just religious kills by defending what they belive

[thorny steeple]

Yeah

[thorny steeple]

Which type of institution?

[formal scaffold]

G20- the 19 countries I assume + European union

[thorny steeple]

Yeah but in today's meeting, African Union also get the permanent seat.

[static pivot]

This is a great achievement

Something which makes this G20 summit memorable

[thorny steeple]

So now it contains 19 country + EU+ AU

[formal scaffold]

As of 2023, the GDP of Africa was estimated at roughly 3.1 trillion U.S. dollars

[thorny steeple]

Ofc this is one of the great decision for African Countries, but there are many other steps were also taken and many more to come.

[thorny steeple]

I don't not much about their GDP

But I'm pretty sure that this decision by Bharat will surely help Africa in long term

[static pivot]

Interestingly Ukraine was mentioned only 4 times in declaration

While last year in Indonesia it was mentioned over 40+ times

[open plover]

What is that whole thing about?

[static pivot]

Wat are your views on that?

[static pivot]

You know wat G20 is?

[open plover]

yes

[static pivot]

So what are you asking me here?

Those are the documents, which are accepted by countries

In case, anyone is unaware of "G20"
The G20 or Group of 20 is an intergovernmental forum comprised of 19 sovereign countries, the African Union and European Union. It works to address major issues related to the global economy, such as international financial stability, climate change mitigation and sustainable development

[formal scaffold]

3 reasons I can think of rn, 1-they don't want to repeat themselves, 2-the war maybe is in a better state than last year, 3-every country just gave up on Ukraine. FYI I'm not expert in this things.

[thorny steeple]

It's because it was mentioned in a statement that G20 is for economic debate not for war debate
second since Russia was also there and Ukraine is not a member of G20 or European union so it doesn't have the right to be there till now, and yeah maybe they didn't want for these economic meeting to get wasted because of war talk as there are no clear solutions when there are so many countries involved, it might be that the countries tried talks one on one about war

[thorny steeple]

One can see the difference in the diplomacy of both the country's.

Today, S Jaisankar clearly stated that "Bali was Bali and New Delhi is New Delhi"

[prisma cipher]

Theyban me again and I realized how cool you are. Respect.

[prisma cipher]

It because time. The more time passes, the less often Ukraine will be mentioned.

[thorny steeple]

It's all about interest I believe one on one talks are needed for this

[static pivot]

[blissful escarp]

[marble otter]

hey guys

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[cerulean prairie]

Hii
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[gray spruce]

What is this question?

[tidal stratus]

[cerulean prairie]

Assesment for learning is conducted for understanding, practising before examination

Assessment of learning is basically exams

[tacit marsh]

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[gray spruce]

I see.

[formal scaffold]

Guilty until proven innocent or innocent until proven guilty?

[placid jay]

would you rather risk wrongfully jailing an innocent person or let criminals be free until proven guilty

[placid jay]

most likely by suspicion

sorry bro kinda busy right now 🙏 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6ipGzAQ5U0

[topaz finch]

@thorny steeple

Just came to see your essay

[tidal stratus]

Hi... I'm also a fan of your essay

[ornate siren]

The former

[formal scaffold]

let's say somebody accused X with no proofs

if it's an ultimatum ithink the answer will shift from a person to another

can't you apply that logic on similar stuff?

to a certain degree

[lavish finch]

Hello

[formal scaffold]

Hello mR green

[lavish finch]

So the topic is justice?

[formal scaffold]

YEs

[formal scaffold]

Do we agree that justice can be subjective?

[lavish finch]

Sure. Justice is a value.

Just like goodness.

People will disagree on what is good.

However it’s not completely subjective. There are tendencies in certain directions.

It’s not just random.

[formal scaffold]

when speaking about justice the sorty of David and Solomon PBUT hit me

gathering more info before is essential to get close to justice

[lavish finch]

Tell us the story. Briefly.

The story of David and Solomon.

[formal scaffold]

basically David was the king and judge of his people (Pbuh) and he had one guy accusing another guy of stealig his lifestock and david pronounced the thief guilty before hearing from him until Solomon suggested to hear the theives version and they later found out that the thief had a solid reason for strealing it (bc they enetered his farm and basically ate and ruined it )

Thus why i was speaking earlier of guilty until proven innocent or innocent until proven guilty

[lavish finch]

Speaking of David and Solomon

[formal scaffold]

judges can be human too and their judgment won't be always accurate so I like the crowd that they add to influence the judgment in the court room I forgot how do you call them

[formal scaffold]

yes?

[lavish finch]

In the book I recommended yesterday there’s a chapter called the religious development of the Jews.

Which relates the history of how Christianity and Islam exist because of Judaism to some extent.

[formal scaffold]

I didn't went for the book instead I went for the first message you ever sent and started listening from up there to not miss anything

[formal scaffold]

weirdly enough I think the three religions are the same relegion

[lavish finch]

What’s the first message I ever sent? Are you talking about the course on Plato Socrates and the dialogues?

[formal scaffold]

yes