💻｜programming

[lone dew]

Impossible

The person probably used Claude

[pure copper]

No it's true

[lone dew]

straight up quants be using Claude atp

[pure copper]

Well yes. Vibe code using some thing other than brain

[lone dew]

what if it’s both tho

[pure copper]

WHAT!!!!

[lone dew]

??

someone using their brain and ai

[pure copper]

Omg

[lone dew]

you good

like for example I forgot some syntax

or I don’t know where the bug is

I think it’s fine to use ai to help

[pure copper]

Probably didn't know what it did in the end so didn't know it had bugs

[lone dew]

no sometimes it’s a fucking bracket u don’t see bro 💔

[pure copper]

That's syntax error

Can't compile

[lone dew]

sometimes it doesn’t appear as that

[pure copper]

Rt error

[lone dew]

why are you so against ai help in coding 💔

[pure copper]

Got to keep dancing

💃

🎵

[pure copper]

Didn't say i was. Just mentioned a story

[pure copper]

Why did you say it was impossible to create a malware with ai?

And vibe coding

[lone dew]

it was sarcasm I just think it’s funny a vibe coder created a malware

most of them go to hackathons and create stupid ai wrappers

[pure copper]

Oh. Sarcasm. Interesting. Changes everything

Like my sarcastic WHAT!!!!

[harsh wigeon]

Show me your Code Github

[drifting zenith]

Artemis 2 landing back !!!!

https://artemislivetracker.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3kR2KK8TEs

[pure copper]

10 PRINT "HELLO NARENDRA"
20 GOTO 10
30 END

[vivid warren]

[harsh wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-cat-confused-math-aint-mathing-huh-cat-gif-883992111571860857

[gray geode]

What's your level - undergrad or grad? Do you read conference/journal papers? I want someone to discuss academic papers with.

[shy glade]

undergrad, not read any papers, but would lvoe to read them

[runic harbor]

can u guys teach me how to program bro am new

[small oyster]

Learn easy language

[runic harbor]

what do u mean

[karmic bloom]

Like python .. start reading the basics then code try to code dont use Ai for the whole work use it for when you either need help on debugging or either your stuck dont start using it for the whole thing. then you read books thats how i learnt it.

Thats why i have so many hours coding

I just try and then i learn from my mistakes

[austere gate]

https://youtu.be/BO6LjtEOGZw

[high cargo]

My online friend tld me , once he had gone to a hackthon his team had built something good (dont know the actual detials but he is a good programmer) the other team used cursor and chatgpt and made a simple Grocery shop with heavy animations performace was low but still that team wins so yeah maybe vibecoders luck are good sometimes

[austere gate]

"Every vibecoder who thinks vibecoding is cool must eventually feel the heat of vibedebugging."
— Overlord 3:16

[lone dew]

if they over did the animations then one bug and it’s over bro 💔

Genuinely that typa stuff even I can’t do well

[drifting zenith]

yo i want to make pong in c++, what library do i use for graphics

basic project by the way

[pure copper]

Use cursors, basic terminal graphics in a console

#include <iostream>
#include <conio.h>

Ignore the class name here, but the methods from the system library:
void ScrX::gotorc(int row, int col) {
COORD coord;
coord.Y = row; coord.X = col;
SetConsoleCursorPosition(GetStdHandle(STD_OUTPUT_HANDLE), coord);
return;
}

//*****************************************************************************

void ScrX::setcolor(WORD color) {
SetConsoleTextAttribute(GetStdHandle(STD_OUTPUT_HANDLE), color);
return;
}

[drifting zenith]

Complex ..

[pure copper]

no. easy

[pure copper]

Well maybe it is. I just had a simple library to move the cursor around and print text on places in the screeen. My MS had to go and change the Console window, and make 10000 options which now mean the basic layout I had doesnt work bause its changed the screen size, the font size the line size, the everything and made the program go wonky. I have it almost reset, but it only works 100% if I am running the program with the debugger on. A straight run and its starts scrambling the screen after a few runs. Like there is some glitch cursor movement happening.

One the brighter side, I have my dev environment open for the second time in 9 months

[drifting zenith]

[stone escarp]

Guys any project available?

[arctic root]

how long have u been in tech industry

[obtuse compass]

i informatic, if someone need help i can help

[pure copper]

45 years

[left gate]

Damn how old are you

[leaden sleet]

[drowsy hound]

Hey, I have dought can anywhere clear for me, I am in tier 3 college in India and I recently completed my react.js now instead of doing node.js for backend I want to go with java backend is right choose or should I go with node.js

[austere gate]

"A true programmer never asks another programmer's age, for they would rather reverse-engineer it from edge-case behaviour."
— Overlord 7:23

[left gate]

I think someone deleted my message

[left gate]

FAIR

[left gate]

Both are good.
Node.js = faster + easier (same JS stack)
Java = better for big companies + strong backend
Start with Node.js, then learn Java later 👍

[austere gate]

I don't think a tier 3 college in India is the end of the road, but it does mean you'll need to focus more on building your skills, projects and network to improve your chances. Since you already know React, Node.js would probably be easier to pick up because it keeps everything in JavaScript. Unless you have a strong reason for Java, Node.js seems the more practical choice.

[drowsy hound]

@austere gate but mern stack is too common in every college, like in my college everyone just learning mern stack so, now I am going with frontend with react.js and backend with java

[gaunt breach]

any java devaloper here

??

i need help

[pure copper]

A true programmer would learn them both, and would learn any language that presented a syntax before thee.

[pure copper]

POst you puzzle and someone may respond with a response.

[gaunt breach]

it's all about his line InputStream fxmlStream = getClass().getResourceAsStream("views/loginPage.fxml"); i tried to change the location of the loginPage.fxml file in allmoust every possible location in the project and the result it stell the same fxmlStream = null
am using gradle 8.9
and this is my current project structer
├───.gradle
│ ├───8.9
│ │ ├───checksums
│ │ ├───dependencies-accessors
│ │ │ └───d7f838bb16dc243bdd05bfa8f75ef956f6209f3c
│ │ │ ├───classes
│ │ │ │ └───org
│ │ │ │ └───gradle
│ │ │ │ └───accessors
│ │ │ │ └───dm
│ │ │ └───sources
│ │ │ └───org
│ │ │ └───gradle
│ │ │ └───accessors
│ │ │ └───dm
│ │ ├───executionHistory
│ │ ├───expanded
│ │ ├───fileChanges
│ │ ├───fileHashes
│ │ └───vcsMetadata
│ ├───buildOutputCleanup
│ └───vcs-1
├───.vscode
├───app
│ ├───build
│ │ ├───classes
│ │ │ └───java
│ │ │ ├───main
│ │ │ └───test
│ │ ├───distributions
│ │ ├───generated
│ │ │ └───sources
│ │ │ ├───annotationProcessor
│ │ │ │ └───java
│ │ │ │ └───main
│ │ │ └───headers
│ │ │ └───java
│ │ │ └───main
│ │ ├───libs
│ │ ├───resources
│ │ │ ├───main
│ │ │ │ └───application
│ │ │ └───test
│ │ ├───scripts
│ │ └───tmp
│ │ ├───compileJava
│ │ │ └───compileTransaction
│ │ │ ├───backup-dir
│ │ │ └───stash-dir
│ │ └───jar
│ └───src
│ ├───main
│ │ ├───java
│ │ │ └───com
│ │ │ ├───application
│ │ │ └───controller
│ │ └───resources
│ │ └───application
│ └───test
│ ├───java
│ └───resources
├───buildSrc
│ └───.gradle
└───gradle
└───wrapper

thanks ...

[pure copper]

The path to the class looks incomplete. Have you checked the ENV variables

Incomplete string address. Where is views/ ?

[austere gate]

If you've already decided to learn Java for the backend, then there's not much I can add except good luck. But if I were you, I'd first try to understand why MERN is so popular and why so many people are learning it. Is it actually aligned with the current job demand or something else? It might be worth checking on LinkedIn to see what companies are currently asking for in job requirements before coming to any conclusions.

[drowsy hound]

Thanks for guidance, it will definitely help me

[austere gate]

You're welcome. Again, I'm not dissuading you from learning Java, rather just trying to make sure you know your reasons very well before jumping in.

[drifting zenith]

im so behind in programming

[gaunt breach]

first ...
but they are on the same package !!!
second ...
i have tried the full path starting form the d partation until the fxml file
and nothing happend

after 30 min of problem solving now i got an exaption on the start method

i mean the same

[gaunt breach]

that is me form 8hours ago

[jagged prawn]

I'm lucky I didn't get interested in java and started programming, saved me hours of fun

[harsh wigeon]

Since you’ve already completed React.js, continuing with Node.js would be the more practical choice right now. It will allow you to quickly build full-stack projects using the same language, which is very helpful when you're trying to create a strong portfolio and apply for internships or entry-level roles. In your situation, getting hands-on experience and showing real projects matters a lot. (kisi ke baato mein mat aana bhai Jald se jald Internship ye Job karle Market mein Aag 🔥 lagihui hai ) for advice Same tier Colllege!!

[pure copper]

tRY THIS AND SEE THE ABSOLUTE PATH System.out.println(getClass().getResource("views/loginPage.fxml"));

[drifting zenith]

8 hrs more behind

[drifting zenith]

somewhat readable

[pure copper]

i WAS WORKING ON A (AM) JOB USING CAPS, AND KEEP TYPING IN CAPS WHEN i SWITCH OVER

[undone rune]

dang

[drifting zenith]

Valid

I AgrEE tHAT IT is READabLE

[pure copper]

aFTER MANYdecades there is still not a CAPS undo/ reverse function

[drifting zenith]

🫂

[drifting zenith]

there is

[pure copper]

🍤

[drifting zenith]

on the left middle

[pure copper]

Thats a LOCK BUTTON. iT DOES NOT UNDO WHAT YOU HAVE TYPED

[drifting zenith]

Ctrl + z

Ctrl + Backspace

[pure copper]

tHAT DELETES IT ALL BUT DOES NOT MAKE IT CORRECT

[drifting zenith]

..

Windows + R + regedit

[pure copper]

I wrote a function for my program users to cap the starts of sentences and names etc, but lowered all the others. Worked for almost all cases

We need this on all KBs

[drifting zenith]

show me

i need it for real

[pure copper]

I wrrote it 20 years ago. Its on my other computer

[drifting zenith]

🥀

[pure copper]

Maybe its in my dev directory here but i'm not searching for it now

[drifting zenith]

i had data on my previous laptop that got water damage 💔

[drifting zenith]

right

[pure copper]

oh ok i'll spend a minute and see if I can find. it Probably tell you I was lying

[drifting zenith]

u can make an ai to search the ssd or hdd

[pure copper]

moment

[drifting zenith]

alright

[pure copper]

Heres one, but not the one...
Public Function MixedCase(lString As String) As String
Dim lNameLen As Long
Dim lExtLen As Long
Dim x() As String
Dim i As Long
Dim newText As String
Dim lText As String

On Error GoTo err_handler

lText = Trim(lString)

MixedCase = ""

lNameLen = Len(lText)
If lNameLen < 1 Then Exit Function

lText = LCase(lText)
x = Split(lText, " ", -1, vbTextCompare)
newText = UCase(Left(x(0), 1)) & Right(x(0), Len(x(0)) - 1)
For i = 1 To UBound(x)
    If x(i) <> "" Then newText = newText & " " & UCase(Left(x(i), 1)) & Right(x(i), Len(x(i)) - 1)
Next i

'Convert on "'"
newText = Trim(newText)
lText = newText
x = Split(lText, "'", -1, vbTextCompare)
newText = UCase(Left(x(0), 1)) & Right(x(0), Len(x(0)) - 1)
For i = 1 To UBound(x)
    If Mid(x(i), 1, 1) = "s" And Mid(x(i), 2, 1) = " " Then
        If x(i) <> "" Then
            newText = newText & "'" & x(i)
        Else
            newText = newText & "'"
        End If
    Else
        If x(i) <> "" Then
            newText = newText & "'" & UCase(Left(x(i), 1)) & Right(x(i), Len(x(i)) - 1)
        Else
            newText = newText & "'"
        End If
    End If
Next i

' Convert on "-"
newText = Trim(newText)
lText = newText
x = Split(lText, "-", -1, vbTextCompare)
newText = UCase(Left(x(0), 1)) & Right(x(0), Len(x(0)) - 1)
For i = 1 To UBound(x)
    If x(i) <> "" Then
        newText = newText & "-" & UCase(Left(x(i), 1)) & Right(x(i), Len(x(i)) - 1)
    Else
        newText = newText & "-"
    End If
Next i

newText = Trim(newText)

MixedCase = newText

Exit Function

err_handler:
Call gError("MixedCase", "General")
End Function

' Convert all to lower case with first character of each word upper case
' Also words following a "-" or a "'" except if "'" is an 's at end of word

[drifting zenith]

whats this lang ..

go?

[pure copper]

Its hard to find, cause CASE is a keyword

I may give up soon

[drifting zenith]

never what?
never give up

[drifting zenith]

in the lang?

[pure copper]

I think the function is in one of my DB modules. There are too many to look through now

[pure copper]

VB

SELECT CASE
CASE
CASE
CASE ELSE
END SELECT

[drifting zenith]

OH

MATCH

THAT SH

MATCH VAR:
CASE TRUE:
PRINT("NICE")

[pure copper]

Sample using ADODB

Public Function GetChemical(ChemicalId) As String
Dim q As New ADODB.Recordset
Dim sql As Variant

On Error GoTo err_handler

GetChemical = "Not Known"

sql = "SELECT * FROM SysChemical a WHERE a.ChemicalId = " & ChemicalId
    
    If SetQuery(sql, q, gDummy, "GetChemical") <> qmok Then
        If q.State <> adStateClosed Then q.Close
        Set q = Nothing
        Exit Function
    End If
    GetChemical = q("Description")
    q.Close
    Set q = Nothing

Exit Function

err_handler:
Call gError(gProc, "Data Access")
End Function

Simple days

🧁

Now looks even worse, but thats my degenerate 🧠
void ScrX::clearscreen() {
COORD coordScreen = { 0, 0 };
DWORD cCharsWritten;
CONSOLE_SCREEN_BUFFER_INFO csbi;
DWORD dwConSize;
HANDLE hConsole = GetStdHandle(STD_OUTPUT_HANDLE);

GetConsoleScreenBufferInfo(hConsole, &csbi);
dwConSize = csbi.dwSize.X * csbi.dwSize.Y;
FillConsoleOutputCharacter(hConsole, TEXT(' '), dwConSize, coordScreen, &cCharsWritten);
GetConsoleScreenBufferInfo(hConsole, &csbi);
FillConsoleOutputAttribute(hConsole, csbi.wAttributes, dwConSize, coordScreen, &cCharsWritten);
SetConsoleCursorPosition(hConsole, coordScreen);
return;

}

[drifting zenith]

tlttr

ill read in free time

''='

[drifting zenith]

be honest, u failed nmcv 101 right

[pure copper]

I dont even know what mmcv is. Roman numberals for 2105?

[drifting zenith]

nmcv

naming convention

[pure copper]

I have lived through many naming conventions

[drifting zenith]

veteran

[pure copper]

Especially the Geneve conventions on Naming

[drifting zenith]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/visual-basic/programming-guide/program-structure/naming-conventions

[pure copper]

scary

[drifting zenith]

UR 80?

NAH

[pure copper]

I programmed using SNOBOL

ALGOL 68

[drifting zenith]

i dont even know wt fk is tht

[pure copper]

I'm sure wiki or google might say

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNOBOL

[drifting zenith]

Indeed you have been trained well 😭

[pure copper]

Need to go get some corn flakes

numnum

[drifting zenith]

why not cherios

[pure copper]

cause i dont have them

[drifting zenith]

cherios honeynut

[pure copper]

not the flavour of the year\

[drifting zenith]

the flavour of the decade

[pure copper]

i hadn't eaten corn flakes in decades, and then this year I'm back

until I get sick of them I suppose

[drifting zenith]

i got sick of chocolate a month ago and now a days im eating waffles with cadbury chunks

[pure copper]

I made a load of waffles a couple of weeks ago. Still eating them

[drifting zenith]

hard or soft crust

[drifting zenith]

that looks like soft crust

[pure copper]

I toast them, somewhere inbetween

[drifting zenith]

i like mine golden

not too hard, not too soft

[pure copper]

They are in between when made straight off the iron, but reheating frozen batch means its can be soft -> crisp

They're sort of like silicon waffers

[drifting zenith]

yep, but golden and crisp is crazy

[drifting zenith]

not the coated ones

[austere gate]

https://tenor.com/view/bowl-cat-gif-17739756832503037272

[harsh wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eating-chips-windows-xp-meme-gif-16637539387988575467

I was expecting Linux

[pure copper]

Played a game. Inspred me to write a help/manual, so I know how to read the instruments

DOn't quite remeber the Starbase symbology

Also got a ghost enemy every so often that won't blow up when hit

challenges

Dont remember what I get from the planets, I'm guessing mining for resources, Have the C or V key but dont kwow what the letter means

I guess I could read the command case statetment

[heavy cliff]

What game is this ?

[pure copper]

V for visit planet and collect resources

[pure copper]

Something I wrote here last year

Star Trek

emulation

In this game 57 Enemy ships to chase around the galaxy. Takes about an hour to play

gives me a headache though

Too many Gs

[livid merlin]

Who is mining in buttensor subnet?

[pure copper]

[livid merlin]

Are you?

[jagged prawn]

huh?tf is that and for what's it used?

https://tenor.com/view/peepoleave-gif-6548096780236450789

[austere gate]

I was reading a book yesterday, and the author seemed to be a huge fan of the original TV show. I know nothing about it tho. So, the author mentioned that in the show there's something called a "replicator" that can build things on demand by rearranging atoms. I found the idea absolutely fascinating. Do you think we'd ever have something like that within the next few decades? Imagine wanting waffles (..like when you shared that image, I was thinking if I could try them), and then you press a button or just think about waffles and the replicator presents you with the best waffle in the world. Of course, I'd be fine with safety and security rules, like not being able to use it to build weapons.

[pure copper]

I think back to when IBM spelled out its name in atoms using an electron microscope/gun. Maybe I was too young then, and it was long ago but I figured if they can see an atom, and then move it, well we could generate molecules of whatever we needed, and so this could be used to further build all the material things we need like hamburgers and waffles. So perhaps yes, But theres a long way to go to move and rearrange all the atoms we need to make a waffle. I might see a subatomic hamburger rearanged before I die, but not a full sized one. Then again, we could be using 3d printing technology to generate these atomic molecules, and then spray the stuff into position, So perhaps. Also they are using enzymes and gene splicing already so that's the same thing and generating goop meats. Perhaps we are not thinking enough into our present.

🍔

🧇

[austere gate]

I read Butter Son Subnet. I think they're better off renaming it to Buckle Up Buttercup.

[pure copper]

Alamy even hikjacked the original pic

Took like 200 Terrawatts of power to move these atoms though

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_(atoms)

[austere gate]

One dystopian thought came to mind while reading your message. Will we be able to feed all the hungry people in the world in the future? What if droughts or natural disasters completely destroy our food chains? Then we could end up injecting gooey liquids intravenously, and the chemicals simply trick our brains into thinking we are enjoying a nice well done steak?

[pure copper]

I feel thats the plot of a movie already.

[austere gate]

Sounds cool. Puck could play the protagonist, you could direct it, and I could play the role of an AI builder who creates custom partners for people and robots.

[drifting zenith]

FREE VPS FINALLY !!!

[austere gate]

Activate Windows
Go to Settings to activate Windows.

[drifting zenith]

no key 🥀

[pure copper]

[austere gate]

https://tenor.com/view/key-magic-key-im-in-shocked-i-got-it-gif-16816975

[drifting zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/critikal-penguinz0-hit-a-little-boogie-with-it-gif-27602297

[leaden sleet]

[drifting zenith]

..

A PIECE OF CODE I WROTE MYSELF !! "partially"

[jagged prawn]

welcome to our weekly show - Roast the Code (standing ovations), you didn’t ask for it but Puck doesn’t need an invitation

Looking at this code you might feel something both devastating and terrifying at the same time. And not in a 'wow, that’s clever' way more like who let this happen?

• First of all if you must to read the damn pep 8. Seriously it exists for a reason

• Next crime: naming. One of the easiest ways to avoid future pain and hours of debugging is simple don’t reuse important/keyword names
  And yet here you are naming a variable Path right after importing the Path class from pathlib. That’s not clever. That’s chaos

moving on ....

even though python isn’t a statically typed language, that doesn’t mean you should write code like types don’t exist
Type hints are there to help humans, even tho interpreter doesn't care about the type hinst as well as Peo about the job, use them. Future you and anyone else reading this will thank you

Also this one hurts ,never exit a function with just: 'return'

What is that supposed to mean? nothing? everything? at least return directly - None

better yet if something goes wrong, raise an exception -default or custom one. Your function processes data - it should either return something meaningful or fail loudly.

that was five minutes of the code roast show with Puck, see you next time if this code survives that long

apart from being sarcastic, I’m also serious. You did most of this thinking on your own, that matters. But the things I pointed out treat them as guidance, not just criticism

[drifting zenith]

Absolutely devastating

[drifting zenith]

dont worry, i took them seriously. Its just sample code to be honest and I thought it doesnt matter that much

[jagged prawn]

read the godm damn pep8 everyone must read it before getting into coding

[drifting zenith]

pep 8?

whats that

[jagged prawn]

peeeeeep 8

[drifting zenith]

fuck coding conventions

[jagged prawn]

shit i have the video for that somehwere

uno sec

[drifting zenith]

i ball with my own names

[drifting zenith]

nah i got a documentation

[jagged prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgI0p1zf31k

[drifting zenith]

[jagged prawn]

have fun reading recommended and widely use python styling https://peps.python.org/pep-0008/

[drifting zenith]

i party with my syntax, no homo

[drifting zenith]

ill give it a read but lets see if i find it useful

[jagged prawn]

it doesnt metter is you find it useful or not, you just have to follow the rules

order order

[drifting zenith]

fuck order, we use broader

🔥

💵

[jagged prawn]

no, seriously read the guidelines below and follow the style, because if you don’t, someone else will point it out later on the job… assuming you’re lucky enough to have one

[drifting zenith]

lets see if my hobby turns into a career 🥀

[jagged prawn]

you are not following the order, eliminate him

[drifting zenith]

still alive aint i

[drifting zenith]

alright

ill try

[jagged prawn]

not for long

and that becose some wrote the elimination program

withou folowitng the styling

and it's broke

[drifting zenith]

u arent following the english style itself

[jagged prawn]

order order

[drifting zenith]

lets see if that rogue mach comes

.bal

[jagged prawn]

im bad in fasdt typign

[drifting zenith]

im bad in pep

also nice to meet u im bad in fast typing

[jagged prawn]

let's hope it is the only thing that you are bad at

[drifting zenith]

lwk though

rate my code

[jagged prawn]

yeas that me

[drifting zenith]

without the pep and naming convention

[jagged prawn]

[drifting zenith]

[jagged prawn]

boooo, you are your code sucks

https://tenor.com/view/yelling-meryl-streep-cheer-gif-2719597858584334837

[drifting zenith]

i dont english undertanduna

no hablo englis

[drifting zenith]

🥀

[jagged prawn]

yea, english understed i dont?

[drifting zenith]

dont i english understand?

DONT I UNDERSTAND ENGLISH

YA ALLAH

[jagged prawn]

nein nein nein

[drifting zenith]

my grammar these days

si si si

[jagged prawn]

my grammar all the time, without corrections

🤝

[drifting zenith]

ur actually confsing me

ur grammar sucks homm

[jagged prawn]

im actuly confsing myself, what a shame

[drifting zenith]

Indeed, what a shame

[jagged prawn]

do you knwo what lese sucks?

i stoped here

[drifting zenith]

Perhaps you could rate my code, which would be much appreciated

[jagged prawn]

i rate it in general

3 out of 5 satisfied puckipsi

[drifting zenith]

without pep?

[jagged prawn]

yup

[drifting zenith]

and naming?

[jagged prawn]

yeah, that sucks you should work on that good code should be readable even at a glance, without having to squint at it from up close

[drifting zenith]

do you hear urself

..

[jagged prawn]

not exactly I'm eating and drinking and typing at th saem time

how good this beer is

[drifting zenith]

[jagged prawn]

and food

[drifting zenith]

..

root beer?

non-alcoholic?

[jagged prawn]

naah the realt one? taste so good after the wrok day

[drifting zenith]

nah fuck alcohol

[jagged prawn]

hmm do i have something that expirece soon

i wanna test my luck

[jagged prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/special-ed-special-gif-14524557650897979460

[drifting zenith]

https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/alcohols-effects-body

[jagged prawn]

yeah. I will definitely read it one day but not any time soon

[drifting zenith]

i encourage you though

advise you

[jagged prawn]

And no, I’m not that drunk or rdink that much It’s just good to take a break sometimes grab some food, have a drink, relax a bit, and do something fun in the end… or just throw around some dumb ideas with your freinds and see what sticks

[jagged prawn]

my docker said the same to me

[drifting zenith]

real talk, alcohol might give u permenant damage

[drifting zenith]

i mean its normal

i sometimes make cringe jokes around my friends

[jagged prawn]

alcohol is not some bad thing, and it’s not the only harmful influence in life. A lot of things are also unhealthy in different ways stress, polluted air, overwork, poor environments, bad habits, that way wrose that aclohol, do the research about not having enough sleep.
The point is that life is already full of compromises and exposure to things that aren’t ideal. So treating alcohol as the single 'big enemy doesn’t really make sense in context. what matters is balance

[drifting zenith]

those hurt you in the short term, alcohol in the long term

and those arent even that bad

you build immunity to that sleep cycle and start adapting

that doesnt happen with alcohol

[jagged prawn]

alcohole it self no, but it is quite possible if i try to bend a beer bottle with my head

[drifting zenith]

ur super drunk right now..

[jagged prawn]

bla bla bla, there are ways more reason for you die, and drinking is not my priority

party party yah

[jagged prawn]

not really, i just playful, if i were I wouldn't be able to type normally

and tommorow one more working day, so it's not friday or the weekend yet

[drifting zenith]

😭

average american life

'the american dream"

[jagged prawn]

im not american, luckily or not

[drifting zenith]

its monday for me

college still ..

also alcohol before bed may or may not cause asyphication or something like that

i dont know the term

"Asphyxiation"

?def asphyxiation

[left umbra]

Word: asphyxiation

Definition 1 (noun): killing by depriving of oxygen
Definition 2 (noun): the condition of being deprived of oxygen (as by having breathing stopped)

Definition requested by talhaimtiaz_1_01142

[jagged prawn]

I bet monday is still almost everywhere across countries, exceptions asian and oceania

[drifting zenith]

no sht sherlock

[jagged prawn]

[drifting zenith]

🥀

i should be given the advanced role already

lwk

[jagged prawn]

еhanks for help, Mister obvious

[jagged prawn]

.

[jagged prawn]

in englsih maybe, but not in the python yet

[drifting zenith]

ms or mr? Them. clean pleasure to help

[drifting zenith]

🥀

[jagged prawn]

i know what you're talking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVmG_d3HKBA

relaaaax take iiiit eeeeasy

[drifting zenith]

never heard it

[jagged prawn]

as well as pep8

[drifting zenith]

i vowed to try not to listen to music

[drifting zenith]

[jagged prawn]

is someone torturing you?

[drifting zenith]

haram

[jagged prawn]

what's now it even worse that alcho?

[drifting zenith]

alcohol is worse

def worse

[jagged prawn]

booring you will diy one day? why toy shou care about something and followin order if that is not guaranteed

order order

[drifting zenith]

"afterlife"

[jagged prawn]

hann it good, I can tell you

[drifting zenith]

..

[jagged prawn]

[drifting zenith]

haram though

[jagged prawn]

if this thingrealy will you be drinking there and listein ot music?

[drifting zenith]

if afterlife exists, then no

i would not be drinking

and lets be real, its ethically and morally not correct

[jagged prawn]

boooooring I don’t get why you avoid it here if you’re not even going to use it there

like what the point and this sacrifice whatever

[drifting zenith]

we will have vine in jannah that wont effect our mind

we will have whatever our heart desires

ANYTHING

[jagged prawn]

I have to disappoint you but if you don’t know how wine is made or what it comes from, I’ll tell you it contains alcohol

[drifting zenith]

u can remove it also

[jagged prawn]

what is in your heart? Please tell me there is something good about me

[jagged prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-gif-21343121

[drifting zenith]

..

[jagged prawn]

tf, it like removing caffeine from coffee

[drifting zenith]

is god not all powerful

[jagged prawn]

two dots in year heart? are you dying?

wine without alcohol if sad and funny at the same time, wine is made from grapes and their natural sugars through fermentation. Yeast eats the sugar and produces alcohol as a natural result of the process. That’s not an added ingredient it’s part of how wine is created

damn, I'm glad I know how to make wine, I never expected to nede ot know that

[drifting zenith]

Yes, non-alcoholic (or dealcoholized) wine is created by first making real, fermented wine and then removing the alcohol through methods like vacuum distillation, reverse osmosis, or spinning cone columns. These processes reduce the ABV to less than 0.5% while attempting to preserve the flavor, aroma, and body of the wine.

https://drydrinker.com/blogs/blog/how-is-non-alcoholic-wine-made#:~:text=Non-alcoholic wine%2C also known as alcohol-free or,* **Reverse osmosis** * **Spinning cone technology**

and the holy scripture doesnt mention 'non-alcoholic'

it mentions that it wont mess with your head

[jagged prawn]

you know it stil consists of alcohol? it's an inevitable process

[drifting zenith]

read the dang article

and if u want u can further ask here https://discord.com/channels/801609515391778826/1367799103354044446

[jagged prawn]

one day? and doen. trust everything that you read and police

[drifting zenith]

same for u

[jagged prawn]

no thanks

[jagged prawn]

fair enough? you've learned the lesson

late time, good luck with your studying, see you

🍻

[drifting zenith]

"divinely decree"

[drifting zenith]

[jagged prawn]

glad you get it

[drifting zenith]

see you next morning insha'allah

[jagged prawn]

adious

[drifting zenith]

adios

[jagged prawn]

💃

[pure copper]

Constant THE_RULES_MUST_BE_FOLLOWED Zacky

[drifting zenith]

Matrix

[pure copper]

dONTuSEcAMELcASEuNLESSyOUaREpEO

[drifting zenith]

noIlikeCamelcaseorInotherWordsalsoCalledbuildupCasebecauseItbringsThisbeautyToyourCodethatNocaseCan

[pure copper]

Get it right

[drifting zenith]

pft its correct

[pure copper]

Nollike?

[drifting zenith]

nIlike

l is small

[pure copper]

Excellent

[drifting zenith]

I is capital

n is small

[drifting zenith]

🥀

[pure copper]

Use 40 on phone and 79 on Teleray100

[pure copper]

It's a funny kind of sad. PEP8

[drifting zenith]

🥀

naming convention fro

[pure copper]

🧁

[rose parcel]

Hello

Is the any one interest about problem solving

[vivid warren]

I'm the problem

[pure copper]

This from Don's mudda, show where capitalization is sourced from

[austere gate]

Scotland?

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-sidelong-glance-raise-of-the-eyebrows-gif-2112951529099220022

[harsh wigeon]

hey Everyone, I am Building App plz Suggest UI Design what should i change in this Profile section

[obtuse compass]

nothing

[harsh wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-to-do-nothing-patrick-star-gif-7267725

[obtuse compass]

i see it very clear and alredy polished

[pure copper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_0jUS6Kfh8

[red tapir]

is this app for female?

[drifting zenith]

watching right now lmao

[pure copper]

[drifting zenith]

🥀

Jd looking like a mcdonald big mac on a hot summer day with extra grease

[pure copper]

[drifting zenith]

Anyone here using django?

[austere gate]

You can't use him anymore cz he got unchained.

https://tenor.com/view/django-django-unchained-blue-suit-standing-gif-1179490706131241319

[drifting zenith]

hes a free man

its lwk good though

[austere gate]

https://tenor.com/view/джанго-gif-13213680745697716484

[ionic solstice]

Hi

[fallow sapphire]

Anyone need a job

They just want 310 years of experience

If anyone has this much experience can apply

[austere gate]

Sorry, I only apply for roles that require at least 500 years of experience.

https://tenor.com/view/minion-mic-drop-minion-mic-drop-walk-out-drop-the-mic-gif-15687823

[austere gate]

This already looks neat. Don't change anything. Just make it functional now.

[drifting zenith]

this good code?

import os
import discord
from discord.ext import commands
from discord import app_commands # Required for tree commands
from dotenv import load_dotenv
from typing import Optional

load_dotenv()
TOKEN = os.getenv("DISCORD_TOKEN")
# Ensure GUILD_ID is an integer
GUILD_ID = discord.Object(id=int(os.getenv("GUILD_ID"))) 

intents = discord.Intents.default()
intents.message_content = True

bot = commands.Bot(command_prefix=".", intents=intents)

@bot.event
async def on_ready():
    print(f"Logged In As {bot.user.name}")
    try:
        # Syncing to a specific guild makes the command appear instantly
        bot.tree.copy_global_to(guild=GUILD_ID)
        synced = await bot.tree.sync(guild=GUILD_ID)
        print(f"Synced {len(synced)} Commands.")
    except Exception as e:
        print(e)

# Corrected Slash Command
@bot.tree.command(name="hello", description="Says hello")
async def hello(interaction: discord.Interaction,name:Optional[str] = None):
    await interaction.response.send_message(f"Hello from {bot.user.name}")

# Standard Prefix Command (Optional)
@bot.command(name="hi")
async def hi(ctx):
    await ctx.send("Hi there!")

bot.run(TOKEN)

[ionic solstice]

Hello

[pure copper]

Its spooky cause i worked with Hein Soe a few years back.

[ionic solstice]

oh really.

[pure copper]

weely

[ionic solstice]

spooky

[pure copper]

BUt luckily no one would actually use their real name, or you might be Hein

[ionic solstice]

It is my real name, but may be same name different person.

[pure copper]

How do you know you are different

[ionic solstice]

I’m trying to figure out who you are.

[pure copper]

do you work with scada

[ionic solstice]

no.

[pure copper]

great . we can relax

just anothe 1/8000000000

[ionic solstice]

?

[pure copper]

population of world

[ionic solstice]

ah, I see.

[pure copper]

Let me just saw there is another computer person with your name.

[ionic solstice]

in google?

[ionic solstice]

u can search "heinsoe" in google. the first one may be me.

[pure copper]

You'd be about 1/2 age of other Hein Soe

Well I must depart for now. Nice chatting

[ionic solstice]

where is he(Hein Soe who you know) from?

[pure copper]

Australia

Probably given to much info already

[dreamy topaz]

Yo

[pure copper]

Ho ho and a bottle o rum

[misty flume]

@pure copperhi somebody tell me that you can help me with an problem

[pure copper]

I can only try if one posts the problem.

Other could possibly help also if they see the problem posted

@misty flume

[austere gate]

I wouldn't be surprised if we received another message in a couple of hours saying "tnx, problem solved."

[pure copper]

or never hear from them again

[drifting zenith]

🥀

[austere gate]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-true-kid-crying-interview-gif-17608507

[misty flume]

Sorry i was busy

Its an electronic problem

[jagged prawn]

[fossil apex]

Programming is living.

[fickle pelican]

Your code is so solid.
I have some suggestions for your code..

[fickle pelican]

Really??
Good
To be honest, me neither

[hard brook]

Hello everyone

[hard brook]

Does anyone here have good logic i need that

[fossil apex]

What??

[fickle pelican]

I mean me too

[fickle pelican]

Where are you from?

[pure copper]

Go on...

[misty flume]

can i show you in dm ? i can post picture here

i send you a friend request

[runic grove]

Hi

everyone

Nice to meet you

What are you doing now

[fossil apex]

South America

[runic grove]

Nice to meet you

[pure copper]

put in a ticket for the media/stream role, and tell them you need to post some stuff here for help.

[hollow wind]

no

[austere gate]

"Expecting an algorithmic description to instantiate the quality it maps is like expecting the mathematical formula of gravity to physically exert weight." Alexander Lerchner, "The Abstraction Fallacy: Why AI Can Simulate But Not Instantiate Consciousness", Google DeepMind, 10 March 2026.

https://tenor.com/view/who-wouldve-thought-jared-dines-the-dickeydines-show-who-would-have-guessed-who-could-have-imagined-gif-13732444824918638973

In simple terms, an image of an apple is not an apple. An algorithm that generates a picture of a beautiful apple cannot be the apple itself.

[pure copper]

Makes it difficult for people to then trust teleportation devices. Are the atoms at the other end the same as the original, or are you just scanned and dissolved at the start point and then 3d printed at the other end from a tube of dna ink.

Better check the parity bit to make sure you got there ok.

Also make before break,

[austere gate]

The atoms at the destination would almost certainly not be the same. They'd be new matter arranged in the same pattern. So if I don't wake up as myself on the other side, I'm simply gone frfr. What appears there would be v2 of me. Others may think of it as v1, but v1 is never coming back. However, I think some people would probably still choose to bring back the dead, if the technology existed.

[pure copper]

Well i suppose all our cells die every few years, so we are not the original us either.

[latent echo]

Hey everyone! I’m Anas, currently finishing my final year in Business & Marketing in shanghai. I spent months struggling with 'shiny object syndrome' and low focus while trying to build my online business.

I'm looking for study buddies. especially ppl in business, tech, ai , feel free to DM let's work together!

[pure copper]

🍍

[pure copper]

Hi

[latent echo]

hi

[pure copper]

Goodnight i decided to watch tv for a change. Get off the ytube. So 2 short shows i would like to watch, but now there is a storm outside and the only channel that goes bung in a storm is the one i want to watch, just as the shows start.

Back to my computer

[austere gate]

When our cells die, does that break continuity? Are we being recreated as a whole, like in the idea of teleportation where we are rebuilt by rearranging atoms? If the answer is no, then I think we remain the same version of ourselves, regardless of cell death.

[pure copper]

Perhaps as long as you are a release and not a version upgrade. Overlord 1.0001

[austere gate]

If continuity breaks even for a short time, I'm gone.

[pure copper]

[fallow pewter]

Any Data Analyst here?

[rough wyvern]

.

[fallow pewter]

Finally 🙂

Can I ask you some tips?

[worn pilot]

I'm 3 months into programming python and i already want to learn API

[austere gate]

https://fastapi.tiangolo.com/tutorial/

[drifting zenith]

be honest, what did u learn

💔

[austere gate]

I think 3 months is more than enough, not just to learn Python but to create a whole new language like it. We're talking about Saturn months btw, worth clarifying.

[pure copper]

[pure copper]

You really analyses that "." so well that you derived all that from Ian

A great DA you are indeed

[fallow pewter]

🤣

[pure copper]

Get it right peo

[thorny linden]

Hello!!

[slow bobcat]

.

[pure copper]

[slow bobcat]

...

[sullen wasp]

The chat is so dead here

Not that I am a programmer myself

"hides behind QWEN3-coder"

[fossil apex]

Do you want to revive someone?

We can start some kind of project.

[sullen wasp]

I have too much on my plate lol

I am talking here cuz I cant sleep and procrastinating

But what have you done before?

[pure copper]

oh weelly

[slow bobcat]

...

[fossil apex]

A bot that helps with English.

[sullen wasp]

Local AI is the way to go

Have you seen OpenClaw's popularity?

[gritty sedge]

You can until do it, but another people dont. Anyway they will take developer data. Can't be your data, but data from another, yep.

[inland flame]

I lowk have a crush on Agentic Multimodal LLMs

[drifting zenith]

what do i make ..

[severe surge]

Cursor is going to acquire by space x

Wow

60 billion usd

Such a huge milestone by anysphere

[wooden mesa]

HI everyone,who is interested in Computer Vision field

[drifting zenith]

me kind of

i need to master it

[wooden mesa]

i am also

[sullen wasp]

It was already acquired I believe

[sullen wasp]

60B is valuation, not necessarily liquid money

[last pier]

hi bugs

[sly wedge]

hi

[sullen wasp]

Hi Deprecated Code

[austere gate]

By any chance, is it written in Java?

https://tenor.com/view/hehehe-ghehe-reptile-laughing-gif-gif-26223253

[south stream]

Hello guys

How are you doing today

[dapper obsidian]

Hello

I'm back-end

[pure copper]

hi mena. hi ahm2006

[tame bough]

do you have experience with openCV and perception?

[wooden mesa]

no,i am try to learn

[tame bough]

ok

are you doin CV for what? are you interested in autonomous vehicles?

or like for human computer interaction

If you are intereted in robotics, I recommend also doing stuff on NVIDIA Isaac Sim

also Gazebo

plus consult githubs of people who published their work related to CV so you can get inspired

[ashen comet]

hello guys

i am software developer

I have 5 years of professional experience in the sector.

who interesting python, javascript, golang we can talk about it

thank you ❤️

[last pier]

hi dogs

[heavy kite]

Hi guys

[heavy kite]

Js

[digital urchin]

hi

I'm learning C# in order to developing indie game by unity

but i am a greenhand. can anybody recommend some excellent tutorials to me?

[agile kindle]

Start online class

[pure copper]

Heres a book with gaming algorithms etc. Its the free version in web format. There are buy options for a proper PDF or hard copy, but I think the web version was ok.

https://gameprogrammingpatterns.com/contents.html

[drifting zenith]

are there any more books like this

like on topics such as "github" or "project organization"

[vivid warren]

[delicate bane]

my friends called me corny

it is

[pure copper]

I was looking at a general programming books listing and there were plenty of interesting things. I will see if i bookmarked that site when i next get on my computer.

[wheat path]

any rust coder here?

be my friend :)

[austere gate]

"Rust coders do not need a new friend, for they can code a new friend in Rust."
— Overlord 13:5

[stiff wave]

And share the site, please

[wheat path]

lol

[digital urchin]

thx

[digital urchin]

wow,I have the physical book of this book.

But,due to text with strong professionalism,I don't understand the main idea and details.

I hope the text is straightaway.

in simple language

[pure copper]

That was the point of me messaging that. Still not on the computer to grab url yet

[drifting zenith]

Alright

Ping me whenever you check

[pure copper]

Free pdf/online books. All sorts of languages
https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-open-source-software-documentation/

@drifting zenith

[pure copper]

@stiff wave

The site

[drifting zenith]

Thanks !

Lets see if I can make a whole os by watching some videos ..

Ill def be addicted to this in 1 day

lmao

[pure copper]

The first and last are the winners for sure
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5JlmM05IitY

[polar flax]

Someone know a discord focus in studying programming together?

[minor swan]

I'm also looking for one

Btw do you guys know some good books for beginners?

[idle tulip]

@dull crow no promotion here please

[pure copper]

#💻｜programming message

[dull crow]

Sorry I got it

[late heron]

Please I need people to do that

[pure copper]

Best if you just demo it in a stream in the programming VC when there are a few people there. Posting a link is a double bad in ICT eyes, as we see the link as a scam and the program code line 1 is DEL .

[dull crow]

I got it thank a lot

[pure copper]

What does it do?

[dull crow]

Just pin event on map and chat

[pure copper]

interesting.

[dull crow]

Yep ☺️

I know about trust issue thx

[minor swan]

Thanks that's exactly what I was looking for.

[drifting zenith]

Peo the books are not free

The download link isnt even loading like wth

[torn egret]

Hi

[pure copper]

They all have different source web pages etc. Each does something different. I managed to download almost every big in every language. The game book can only be viewed on the Web page, it pay the 3 dollars to the poor author.

What are you trying specifically?

[tender field]

Thanks, but I prefer Rutracker

[pure copper]

[austere gate]

Humanoid robots outrunning humans in a Beijing half marathon does sound like a catchy YouTube title. That said, the more I think about all the other areas where these humanoid robots could eventually take over human roles, the more concerned I become, especially since we're pretty notorious for our rebellious nature. I'm not sure how average people will feel when they see a robot doing their jobs ten times better or even a hundred times better. Would they just accept this inevitable shift peacefully, or would they fight against the machines?

[pure copper]

Don't need to exercise anymore. We can just be jelly in a sausage skin. Good to power the matrix like an alkaline gel cell 1.5V.

🪫

[austere gate]

Did you ever think that we could be living in a computer-generated simulation created by an advanced civilisation? If so, would we ever be able to tell?

🤔

[pure copper]

Yes, no, or perhaps that is the god issue many have problems comprehending.

Just marbles of the gods

[austere gate]

I think if we could crack consciousness that'd open up far more areas to research. If we could replicate consciousness, we'd probably be able to tell what's going on!

[pure copper]

That is sort of what i wanted to do for the last 40 years. Smart computer brain

[pure copper]

Too hard to read on a screen? @drifting zenith

[drifting zenith]

https://hastie.su.domains/ISLP/ISLP_website.pdf.download.html

doesnt work for me

[drifting zenith]

I was just trying it again to be sure ..

[vivid warren]

I really want to learn some kernel development

[ionic solstice]

hello

[pure copper]

doesnt look safe to me either

[fathom scroll]

Hi nerds

[trail holly]

LOL

What you guys think of TryHackMe and HackTheBox?

[austere gate]

I just wish I could see some kind of breakthrough in my lifetime. All those CEOs have been beating the AGI drum for quite a while now. If we actually get AGI, it might help us decipher some of these mysteries, or it might just turn out to be a pipe dream.

[drifting zenith]

well deserved

justice comes in unpredictable ways

[ebon night]

Hello guys

I'm new to learn programming, I want to learn python but I don't have a computer. Can I learn it on tablet?

[sullen temple]

You can but it’s not the best

I advise you to start and don’t waste time

You can start with tablet until you get a computer

Also you need to apply not just watch.

[austere gate]

Yes, you could learn Python even without that tablet. In fact, a lot of people around the world learn coding on their phones, but it's quite a bit more hassle. Just don't feel discouraged cz you don't have a computer rn. Assuming it's an Android tablet, you can install some free apps from the Play Store or even use Google Colab. Try to get an external keyboard and a mouse if you can, as they'll make your life a bit easier. Good luck.

[orchid oyster]

Hello guys, how are you? I'm Marcelo Vitor, Brazilian, electrical engineering student, I recently started learning to program and I'm studying Python! I'm also starting my studies to learn to speak English! I would like to somehow contribute with you in something! Some curiosity about Brazil, soccer, games. And if possible you teach me programming and especially to speak English, I think that just by making a new friendship I would learn English and I would be very grateful! Anything add me and send me a message I still don't know how this discord works! Thank you for your attention!

[pure copper]

[jagged star]

guys the thumbnails of some programs are not showing for me (the thumbnail of "settings" icong isnt) showing
i have used cmd commands
like taskkill /f /im explorer.exe
then i /cd to thumbnailcache_*.db and deleted the cache there
started im explorer.exe back again

but i cant seem to find another solution for thiz

[drifting zenith]

i pretty sure there is a keyword you use for a thumbnail png file for a project

[gritty sedge]

Can U to sell the tablet and buy a PC? An old PC, solve U problem. Use Linux use the powerfull of U new PC (if gonna old).

[gritty sedge]

Hi, Marcelo. I'm from Brazil too, to be more expecifc, Pará.

I can help u, but I'm learning english too, hehehe.

[sullen temple]

Yeah it gonna be better for him
If it is possible

[small oyster]

Hello

[signal flicker]

Hello,does anyone know fortran language

[bold imp]

hello, i am looking for a friend from Europe who can work with me.

anyone here?

[pure copper]

Scam

[sullen temple]

Ai is a new type of drugs

And special one

[austere gate]

Are you using the official ChatGPT website?

🤔

[shy glade]

Anyone here champ in Cybersecurity/Linux/Networking?

[heady maple]

JS, Python

[signal flicker]

Shell script language

[austere gate]

Today I discovered that a person named Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi (pronounced Me-High Chick-Sent-Me-High), existed on this beautiful planet. It just reminded me of extremely long variable names.

[vivid warren]

[haughty heath]

Long readable variables >> shit that doesn't mean anything

[austere gate]

longReadableVariablesShitThatDoesntMeanAnything

[pure copper]

I just use i,j

[bold imp]

hello everyone, i am here to meet EU friends(must own English, 22yo+ only) who can work me. anyone here? plz DM me anytime.

[shut ledge]

Hello

I need help in Blender

Does anyone here have experience with blender?

[velvet pawn]

Hey everyone, I have a question. Do you think the MySQL field is already too crowded? For example, if I started learning it today, would it be a waste of time? Would it be better to learn PostgreSQL instead of MySQL?
I was just wondering if the field is already saturated.

[bold imp]

I am a software developer, MySQL is still being used widely, so it's not waste of time. And also, AI would help you to improve your skill

[silent wedge]

Hi myself Aries
I would love to be your English lesson mate.Moreover,What a coincidence I'm also learning python just started

Is ui/ ux Worth leaning as a newbie who wanna explore more should I dive deep into these?

[nocturne remnant]

People don't really learn MySQL over Postgres. They do learn SQL, and at some advanced level they start diving into platform specific details. Overall, we learn and interact with sql, nosql and document databases.
Is MySQL "field" too crowded? Likely.
Should you learn it if you're a backend engie? Absolutely.
Should you go for Postgres over MySQL? Eh, I don't think it's the best course, unless you are already working in a field that heavily uses Postgres.

[narrow siren]

If you're just starting out, you've gotta focus on the structure first. Think of it like building a house—you need a solid foundation before you start picking out the furniture. You need to wrap your head around how relational databases actually work, how to design your tables, and how to link everything together using primary and foreign keys. Once you get the logic down, the rest is just syntax

[pure copper]

I've used sql for decades (generically). Mysql has always been around but i never saw it in a professional environment. I recently tried to look at the different distributions and postgres looked like something that was reasonably complex and all encompassing and potentially used on bigger sites. But again I've never seen this used either. The only one i have seen in multiple locations was sqlite, which was used because it was easy to integrate into anything and was very available. But Oracle and Microsoft Sql Server are the two giants that I see in all industries. Sqlite is my current bet on alternate with best chance of seeing it somewhere.

[daring umbra]

Can I my survey link here?

[glad gust]

how to master in dbms for design system. could you give any tutorial of youtube, so that I can master for production grade.

any resources to understand easily

?

Anyone can ans

#💻｜programming

[median eagle]

Can anyone teach me the use of val and var

[robust elk]

in what language?

[pure copper]

I think the most complex design element you need to consider when setting up a database, is how to handle historical reference and master data in a normalized db. Editing a reference code for example can result in historical information becoming corrupt if it is directly linked to an historical master record. You may need to consider, new codes when editing a reference table rather than editing the existing associated information. Alternately using timestamped reference codes. Also historical records could just be copied while and archived in their own tables for static reviewing. There are probably a lot more ideas out there, but corruption of historical info is a big disaster if not initially considered when setting up the db for your application/systems.

[spiral lotus]

Hey everyone is there anyone is learning SQL?? If yes pls let m know

[robust elk]

I'll start learning SQL in a day or two. But I'll be learning MS SQL Server. What are you up to?

[glad gust]

thanx Peo

[spiral lotus]

Ohhh nice to y know that mee too

[prime escarp]

I actually did learn it but maybe I need to refresh my memory.

If there's something you don't understand, I can help you.

[spiral lotus]

Yep I need it

[nocturne remnant]

This is surprising. Could be niche thing like "oracle in java world", because in backend systems 4 out of 5 companies use mysql|mariadb. Remaining uses postgres. Sqlite is near to none, yet might appear here and there.
Especially in smoke tests env where people RAM-mount it for speed boost.
Personally, last time I used sqlite was in android development.

[pure copper]

I would say "niche" is a strong under kill. Rather i would say that there are a number of major development styles and we may each be working in our own district development worlds.

Oracle is hardly niche and not just java

[nocturne remnant]

I'm a bit confused, because that's my definition of "niche"

[pure copper]

Highly specialized is my view of the word

[nocturne remnant]

Alright, I checked it and you're likely right. Java is nowhere that popular to push it to the first place.

[pure copper]

Likewise, i'm surprised to see mysql sitting above ms sql server

[nocturne remnant]

I'm surprised it's not ahead by far. Given that most of the internet is literally wordpress

[pure copper]

Ig what i am trying to convey is that there are a lot of systems in the world that are not 'Internet' based, and this i think is not seen in current cohorts of educational institutions. The legacy attend that run government and heavy industry, are producing front end web systems now to gain access to that information, but the underlying databases have been in existence for decades, and Oracle, ms sql and mysql have been around for many of these decades.

Joker

🤡

Typ typ typ

Typ ttp typ

Dip dio dip

La di da da

Ummm ahh ummm

Oh really

No9ooo..... Really

Omg

Ifc

Ofc

Blah vlah blah

Typ typ typ

What is Khan typing?

[nocturne remnant]

I'm aware in general. Apparently, I'm unaware of the scale. Like, how many people work there, because in my experience it took like 4 teams to build 5-6 apps/tools that were used by entire gov. For comparison, it's as a few guys would have worked on facebook that'd then be used for shopping, entertainment, healthcare and etc. all at the same time.

Just to clarify, I'm implying that I don't see how there are more apps (in terms of quantity) that use oracle than there that use, say, mysql.

[pure copper]

Push enter

Urahhhh

[nocturne remnant]

Getting distracted by people talking in background

For some reason "philosophy" channel has been dead for days, and other channels feel heavily unmoderated

So I'm sticking with decent ones : )

[pure copper]

The year 2000 project i was in had over 100 people working 4 years to check the code and correct it for one state government department. It was a financial system.

That was repeated across all gov departments in state, local, federal, and private industries across the world.

[nocturne remnant]

Ooof. Worked at one in 2016. Was much-much simpler than that

[pure copper]

And that was just to check a date bug

[drifting zenith]

hola

[pure copper]

There may be hope soon. I think it's either Microsoft or Linux, cant remember which, but date rolls over around 2030. That's very soon. Think it's ms.

[drifting zenith]

peo have u tried ramen

[pure copper]

I have eaten such noodles

[drifting zenith]

it sucks

dont buy korean

[pure copper]

Yes, that is them. I'm not a fan of noodles generally. I'm a rice person

[drifting zenith]

rice with some black chickpeas

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-hungry-famished-starving-eating-gif-17203120126493562641

[pure copper]

Char siu

[drifting zenith]

ur chinese? culture shock

[pure copper]

I posted a selfie. It will shock. There are other selfies, but IT people never check their resources.

[drifting zenith]

selfie?

lemme see

NO WAY

this u?

I DONT BELIEVE

💔

[pure copper]

Where did you find that? In programming?

[drifting zenith]

yes

[pure copper]

You need to read that in context

[drifting zenith]

lemme see

[pure copper]

Not me.

[drifting zenith]

aw man

[pure copper]

This is me in profile pic

[drifting zenith]

lemme see in selfies

no way

[pure copper]

My hair tied back and wearing a blond wig

[drifting zenith]

lemme search again ..

[pure copper]

Shock you more

[drifting zenith]

way more

NAUR

[pure copper]

My seafaring days

[drifting zenith]

u not male

stop lying

[pure copper]

Correct

[drifting zenith]

?

[drifting zenith]

💔

never expected u to be a cowgirl

[pure copper]

Where did you dig that up from. I remember that day

[drifting zenith]

3rd page results of filtering

tell me the date of when you posted it

a male in disguise

[pure copper]

Just not satisfied are you

[drifting zenith]

thats not u 💔

[pure copper]

Ok. A couple of years ago, but me

[drifting zenith]

couple of years ago

hmm ..

doesnt narrow it down

ur telling me this is u

no way

[pure copper]

Hot diggity day

Surely you've seen me in live stream in programming or karaoke vc

[drifting zenith]

i havent even seen u in those vcs what do u mean seen

💔

u this?

@pure copper

i found u, no way !!

[pure copper]

Your really going back now

[drifting zenith]

way back

7/12/2025

[pure copper]

Still have that bag

[drifting zenith]

from 1 year ago is crazy

[pure copper]

Oh. Not that far back. No wonder i still have the bag

4 months

[drifting zenith]

is that you though?

[drifting zenith]

yes

alright its not you

[pure copper]

Well going to go eat some pea soup. Can't post any pics off this phone, cause i ate too much at Christmas.

[drifting zenith]

could be u

@pure copper

[pure copper]

You found me

[drifting zenith]

i found ur voice

2 years ago

[pure copper]

Voicee!

[drifting zenith]

im finding ur pic next

[pure copper]

Sherlock Holmes

On the case statement

[drifting zenith]

i lwk do have the sherlock glasses lmao

[drifting zenith]

soup?

[pure copper]

Pea soup. The stuff Sherlock Holmes has to walk through on midnight investigations.

[drifting zenith]

I already had mine, thanks

[pure copper]

The office

And the other office

Saigon. Shut. I'm still in Saigon

HCMC

[drifting zenith]

two offices?

[pure copper]

Actually 3 but ones a secret location

[drifting zenith]

whats this

alot of pics but i was thinking why not post them as well for ur nostalgia

[pure copper]

The bottom is the main frame computer i run. The desk is my control setup

[pure copper]

4' 11 is my height

[drifting zenith]

ahh that makes sense

[pure copper]

I'm not an animal, I'm a human bean

I think that's a vegan reference

[drifting zenith]

alright officially its ended

[pure copper]

My days in the hospital

[drifting zenith]

i know so

[drifting zenith]

peo, somewhere in these pics is ur pic

im sure of it

[pure copper]

You didn't check selfies either

Very well

[drifting zenith]

i did

..

i lito checked everything there is

💔

[pure copper]

I think there are a bunch in there from the older days.

[drifting zenith]

that was the first pic u sent

the last bunch

the first pic u sent was in 10/3/2023