💻｜programming

[shy glade]

that's the i guess more difficult part for newbies because they don't have the patience to stay 2 - 5 hours on a single problem

a project can only be pure implementation

[pure copper]

Yes. Agreed

[shy glade]

it's more easy to implement something

and usually when people do a project they start like tutorial how to make a terminal in c

and they learn techniques to make a parser etc, and in a way it's like "copying" and learning how to implement more than actually being able to build the stuff with your brain

because newbies can't do shish basically

and it's normal

[pure copper]

I think, we are saying the same thing...

[queen urchin]

so long

[pure copper]

It doesn't have to be a compiler for a beginner project, but something that makes them do a bit of research to find some new syntax, or functionality to achieve the parts that make up a small project to start with then build on it and make it into a colossus, through thinking for themselves how they can expand on something.

[pure copper]

Where are you going Tony?

[queen urchin]

oh, I was thinking what is Tont for mins

[pure copper]

Tonypo

typo

[queen urchin]

pepo

💀

[pure copper]

[queen urchin]

where did ~ gone?

[pure copper]

Where did I go?

[white basin]

Hi, I am Tony

softare engineer

[queen urchin]

Hi, I am Tony
software engineer

[naive chasm]

Hi, I am Tony
softare engineer

[fallen compass]

Hi, I'm Software Developer, anyone want talk about programming languages?

[vagrant sable]

What programming languages do you know?

[wintry totem]

Hello!

I am a senior softwre engineer

[tacit granite]

let's talk about it

[iron gull]

Hey guys, I am web developer specialized in e-commerce website building, anyone want to talk about e-commerce website building?

[shy glade]

what site did u build before?

[leaden sleet]

Hi, I am beo
Future software engineer

[vivid warren]

Hi, I'm watermelon

Software engineer

[nocturne remnant]

Will be hard to find something decent. Yeah, programmers love flexing very much, so, you have to have something particular on your mind. Don't go mindlessly to interact with random devs. Find your sphere like gamedev, webdev, something, and then join the community. It will be much easier to find something relevant in gamejams, hackathons and other events.

[kindred sandal]

Hi This is GOMI.
I'm a Javascript Engineer.

[iron gull]

Many Shopify stores, mostly DTC stores.

[shy glade]

which site can I see yours?

[iron gull]

https://guardianbaseball.com/
https://www.sudscrub.com/

[pastel crow]

Hi everyone, I am looking for someone to collaborate on solving Advent of Code with me. DM if you are interested.

[split holly]

Hi guys, what is that "Advent of code" ? i see a lot of posts about that on X but idk what is

[pastel crow]

It's like programming puzzles, it's fun to solve and also improves problem solving skills.

[split holly]

How many puzzles ? it looks interesting

[pastel crow]

Every day we have to solve one puzzle, it starts from dec1 and ends at dec12

[split holly]

cool, can i message u on dm ?

[pastel crow]

yup

[split holly]

i send a friend request

[woven snow]

@split holly @pastel crow sup yall can u guys send me the link to whatever that is too?

i write code in python for the most part, that alright?

[pastel crow]

me too, i write in python

i sent you

[split holly]

i write in php, but i dont think the language is a problem

[woven snow]

exactly

would take me a week or so to "learn" a new programming language

i mean its literally js the syntax and some other misc. stuff

[split holly]

learn the sintax is really easy

be good is really hard ahahahah

[woven snow]

true

id recommend solving problems like those on a piece of paper

[pure copper]

I think todays English lesson is spelling:

S-O-F-T-W-A-R-E softare, oh sorry, softwre

[jade sierra]

Can anyone explain how I became a successful software engineer 😁

[pure copper]

You probably became a successful software engineer through your diligence and eye for detail.

[jade sierra]

I'm a student

[austere gate]

So you want to become a software engineer!

[urban oxide]

software engineers

omg

here is just the elite

[leaden sleet]

[urban oxide]

What language do you code in?

[robust topaz]

who is a real software engineer of you?

[north nimbus]

choose a detection you're enthusiasm, learn related framework and keep do it.

supposing you're desired for frontend, you can learn vue, react and so on. It's effective compared to language.

[north nimbus]

use English

[wicked stirrup]

I heard that programmers are crazy about leetcode.
Is it real?

[austere gate]

Nope. Some people grind LeetCode because they need to prepare for job interviews. It's not something you do for fun. Honestly, it's not fun when you've got to stare at your screen for hours with absolutely no clue how to solve a hard question, but you still push through with the hope that one day your efforts will pay off.

[foggy warren]

Heyoo, what do you advise for learning C language for studying CO?

[tired bridge]

what's co?

[foggy warren]

Computer Olympics

[tired bridge]

I gave the co olympiad when I was in 8th standard and got a silver medal for it. They also provided study material and there was no specific language mentioned. I don’t know about your school regulations or how they work. maybe you should ask the faculty about it

[north nimbus]

in general, programmers prefer to develop their project instead of solving questions on leetcode.

[raven nova]

Agree with you

[barren marsh]

hi

hlo any one there

[near inlet]

hello

[barren marsh]

hi

[pure copper]

Carbon monoxide is not good for learning

[final warren]

I wanna make game help gaza 1 year old🏃🏻

Pls donate in my bio

😔😔😢😢☹️🤤🤤🤤😢😰👅💂🏻‍♂️🧆

[brazen sand]

Pls donate

😞😫

In bio

[final warren]

Help

[brazen sand]

Shhh

[idle tulip]

kinda crazy

ur bio is

[tough cliff]

/report

[austere gate]

smilyguy192_
1226442855938265110

g.g6a
1446522776268574760

[final warren]

Noo scamm

[brazen sand]

("f 'gelloworld") print

[cloud aspen]

Hi

[vivid kelp]

No, carbon monoxide is a more good nitro for use while us write a code

[wet raft]

You vegan?

[hot sandal]

[grim bloom]

What is it?

[pure copper]

I have donated to the vegans. You're welcome.

Now start writing that program to help Gaza

[hot sandal]

just discord feature to flex that you are a developer

[glossy flower]

Want to be a developer. Any advice?

[tough cliff]

Develop.

[quiet temple]

Amazing advice. Thanks!!

[vivid warren]

[brazen sand]

Yes

[wet raft]

Based

[austere gate]

[tough cliff]

The start button doesn't do anything.

[molten vale]

only the AI interview and career paths tabs work

it's my portion of the project

[junior oyster]

i used for a while when i was studying python but i never used that again, maybe i'll give it a chance again

[empty spruce]

hello i like literrally just joined this

[austere gate]

https://tenor.com/view/grogu-star-wars-mandalorian-baby-yoda-gif-9168999412781595068

[sharp thicket]

Hello there

[pure copper]

Still trying to get into some programming, while managing my data on paper while I wait. Ive decided to try and just put some data in a libre office database, and build some quick forms there first, so I can keep up with the data collection. Then I can link my slow programming app into it, or convert it to sqlite later.

[pure copper]

Peek a boo

[austere gate]

Ellooo

[austere gate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hello-cat-peek-cat-door-cat-peek-door-gif-9210251735556619940

[sharp thicket]

Looo

[shy glade]

guys I wanna have a good server for python programming

[vivid warren]

[pure copper]

[austere gate]

[white ember]

[upper cloud]

who have good gpu ?

[tough cliff]

Rich people.

[white ember]

[cobalt olive]

I got iris xe

[small wigeon]

i have RTX 3050(main) and GTX 1650

[subtle viper]

Hi guys

[subtle viper]

Mine rtx 4050 gpu

I am proficient in c,java,python

[red rock]

Does anyone know a discord server for machine learning or python programming

I want to improve my python knowledge and use it with ML

[subtle viper]

No idea

[nocturne remnant]

Best shot is to ask Sci-Tech Lounge when @clever sleet is there.

[rapid pond]

Choose whether you want to be a front-end, back-end, or mobile app developer, and find a language accordingly, e.g., JavaScript/React, C#/Java/Kotlin/Swift/Flutter. Then you should focus on theory - object-oriented programming, functional programming, etc. (start with OOP) 🙂

[polar epoch]

Hy guys! I'm building my first SAAS. Has anynone done something like this before?

[brazen sand]

I use arch btw

[austere gate]

https://tenor.com/view/clapping-clap-applause-standing-ovation-gif-15648815

[brazen sand]

:).

I feel better

[subtle viper]

Guys what is your opinion on impact of Ai on programmers

Do you think it destroys their job prospects or enchance their productivity

[grizzled ledge]

Yes, especially for creators, artists

[subtle viper]

But doesn't it enchance productivity

For programmers to speedup their work

[clever sleet]

Hey, good question btw.

It does enhance productivity. but if you're not skilled it can be a slipperly slope because AI can and will often generate trash code that works fine but would not serve your usecase well and could be a huge "technical debt" in the long run.

I don't believe anytime soon that AI would take away job prospects in development and I can back that by real-life examples, most prominemtly the recent aquisation of Bun by Anthropic.

There is this really good video from ThePrimeTime about it. check this out: Video

[subtle viper]

Ofcourse I belive ai should be used by person only if he has complete knowledge on what he is doing , just using It to speed up his work

It's just means to speed up

[clever sleet]

correct, I also use AI in my personal project but I don't tend to rely on it for code generation, rather I perform post-hoc checks using coderabbit to validate and review my code on GitHub before merging to main (note: this isn't for my organisation, this is for my personal project)

[subtle viper]

💯

Exactly it should never be main source of project should just supplement has means for finishing up work which needs basic and repeatable codes

[clever sleet]

very well said, my friend has a very good way of defining and limiting his interaction with AI.

he essentially treats AI as a senior developer (relative to him)

1. where he cannot go for silly doubt (like, "please center the div")

[austere gate]

Let's look at it from a broader perspective. Imagine you're exceptionally good at something, but if I gave you tools to automate a few parts of it, you'd work faster and more efficiently. Eventually though, you'd still hit a limit no matter how many tools you had. Now imagine I gave you a fleet of robots that could automate tasks far beyond anything you or I could manage. Then imagine training those robots to build more robots in parallel, accelerating automation even further. Do you see my point? At some stage we simply won't need as many humans as we do now. You can see it in coding or almost any other job. It's only a matter of time. Whether it takes five, ten or twenty years, we will eventually automate almost every task a human can do.

[clever sleet]

there are a few more, let me collate them into a message

but hopefully you get the idea

it's more of a self-disciplined approach to utilising AI, for me that's a little too much hence I don't tend to follow his framework, but works for people idk?

[subtle viper]

It's pretty much possible but I personally don't think we have reached that state of technology where we can use ai to parallel train others

[subtle viper]

Ok

[subtle viper]

But I have doubt regarding your logic

As we see at end a ai is just bot which works better than us using set of datasets which we feed them during training ,so it I think it may not be capable enough to train other ai bot if it did, it mostly not beyond what it already know I mean the dataset base it's trained within until and unless we are talking about AGI then it's different story

[austere gate]

That's why I said let's give it five more years.

[subtle viper]

Oh okay I misunderstood that you might have implied the statement for current gen ai

[austere gate]

As Ilya said, it's time to get back to the research grind for real breakthroughs since scaling will only take you so far.

[subtle viper]

Who is she?

[austere gate]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilya_Sutskever

[subtle viper]

Isn't he one of the board member of openai

Or used to be

He looks similar

Yeah it's him

[subtle viper]

Of course it's restrictive since ai at end can only do basic amd repeatable tasks which it was trained through database more efficiently than us it can't go beyond atleast for this 5 or 10 years

But let's be honest 10 years ago nobody would have though we could have achieved this much progress in ai field

[austere gate]

Continuous learning can be extremely beneficial.

[subtle viper]

Yeah we should learn and shouldn't stop learning just because an ai can do that particular task

[austere gate]

Imagine a system that could learn on the fly and update specific weights in specific layers of the network. In that case, we'd need security far beyond anything used in the military, which feels almost impossible to guarantee given the risks of extremely advanced jailbreaks. We'd also need an infinite context window or at least something like a hundred million tokens. And as I said earlier, we'd need more scientific breakthroughs that build on and strengthen the existing transformer architecture, which we have pushed to some extent already.

[subtle viper]

Do any of you guys have intrest in local llms or have personally used local llms in your pc or laptop?

[shy glade]

I used it for a long time, but nowadays I use EndeavourOS by the way cause I'm tired of editing config files for stuff I have no opinions about.

[shy glade]

I run them. Local agents with AnythingLLM, ollama, koboldcpp etc

[subtle viper]

Oh nice , since my laptop doesn't have powerful rig I mostly run llms with 4 billion parameter only

I use lmstudio and ollama

[shy glade]

That makes sense. Gemma 3b is amazing.

[subtle viper]

I just wanted to know do other users use local llms too or not

[subtle viper]

Yeah but it's reasoning model often hallucinates

[shy glade]

There are some things for which local is the only way to go if you know what i mean

[subtle viper]

I tried it asking few questions based on djikstra algorithm it went into endless thinking mode for 4 minutes until I stopped it manually

[shy glade]

that's true, I've had issues with reasoning multiple times

[subtle viper]

Data privacy

But mainly it's curiosity

[shy glade]

yes that and the need of uncensored models

[subtle viper]

Of using your own llm

[subtle viper]

But llms I use are indeed censored

I asked qwen what it thinks of taiwan it said it's part of china,I just asked it to make c language programm print a statement that taiwan is independent nation still it refused

Few llms are heavily censored

[shy glade]

yes, though most have a social-democrat political bias

except for grok which has a republican bias apparently, but it's not strong
There are benchmarks of that in the UGI leaderboard at huggingface

qwen and deepseek are probably the most notorious cases along with chatgpt

@subtle viper have you run whisper or stable diffusion locally?

[subtle viper]

No since my gpu is rtx 4050 and has only 6bg vram, I though it would be resource intensive to run stable diffusion

[subtle viper]

I can't even run chatgpt locally since I noticed in ollama and lmstudio minimum parameters is 20 billion for chatgpt

[shy glade]

You can also rent some VPS online and host your models there. You have to pay but it's definitely gonna be more free than using the cloud options

also you have ppq.ai , which allows you to pay in crypto and doesn't need an account. It has some uncensored models

and venice.ai which is more on the normie side of things but it's also better than mainstream options

ppq.ai claim they don't record anything you send to them

[subtle viper]

Actually I started using this local llms mainly because I don't like to pay subscriptions for ai models I used to pay for chatgpt but discontinued it after I find it becoming too restrictive , so I just use free versions of ai models as of now

[shy glade]

oh and chatgpt must record everything and never delete your convos because of their ongoing lawsuit with the new york times

[shy glade]

way to go

[subtle viper]

Yeah

[shy glade]

not like they weren't doing it all along anyway lol

[subtle viper]

I also subscribed to supergrok

The only thing I liked it ,it's less restrictive

Than chatgpt

[subtle viper]

They claim they will use it for training but are there any precautions in place to prevent their staff from viewing the chats

I have no idea on it

[shy glade]

Supposedly there's a toggle for you to choose not to have your data used in training, but meh... there's no way to verify they aren't even if you choose to

The most odious & nefarious AI babble i've seen so far is copilot365 in windows 11 computers...

[subtle viper]

Yeah I know I already disabled but who knows

Will they follow it or not

[shy glade]

with copilot365 you can tell they're actually disabling it because it's impossible to turn it on and off more than once every 3 months

that tells you that they're actually doing something serverside... cause if they allowed you to turn it on and off faster than that you'd blow up their server usage

[subtle viper]

Is it? Then I will look into it

[shy glade]

yeah but still, it's a horrible thing for other reasons... first, it's microsoft... second, windows recall (though you can disable it)

[subtle viper]

Plus openAi literally copies works which are patented and have trademarks can't expect them to not to use our data

[shy glade]

and sadly, apple has its own apple intellingence bs in all M2's... and they all come with an NPU so we can't escape it

[shy glade]

True. Though I'm happy that they're violating copyright lol

[subtle viper]

I also have no problem but concern is that if they can openly violate it then whats stopping them from using our data too in name of training

[subtle viper]

Do they? 😭 till now I though all they have is siri

[shy glade]

yep, literlly nothing

you can read about apple intelligence, it's the new capability that uses the NPU in new macbooks and iphones to feed all your telemetry into a LLM. They aren't using it fully yet but they will

hardware is there... and when they link that to client side scanning, it will be impossible to have any kind of private communication in a computer

[subtle viper]

I have no idea on this npu I should check it

[shy glade]

unless you use different hardware and probably a FOSS system

things look bleak on that front tbh

[subtle viper]

I remember they also have released M5 chips

[shy glade]

i haven't heard of M5, i thought they were doing M3 and M4 first

[subtle viper]

Yeah they released M5

To enhance ai performance

[shy glade]

we're doomed bro

doomed to using old thinkpads forever

[subtle viper]

Lol

Key features include a 10-core CPU, a 10-core GPU, a 16-core Neural Engine, and a neural accelerator in each GPU core. This results in faster multithreaded performance, improved graphics, and enhanced capabilities for on-device AI tasks.

Got this from their website

[shy glade]

i wouldn't be surprised if they made it illegal to manufacture software that doesn't use UEFI signature checking... and if that happens, say bye to running linux on normal computers

you'll need special hardware to run anything other than windows/macos

[shy glade]

yes, the neural engine is the NPU i was talking about

[subtle viper]

Yeah I see actually I heard about it once or twice but have no idea

On how it works

[shy glade]

it allows LLMs to run faster without sharing the processing that other tasks use, so you will not notice it's running

then they feed the LLM all your clicks, keystrokes and activity

[subtle viper]

But as per chatgpt and grok the laptop equipped with this M5 can apparently run llms from 14B to 20B parameters without quantization

[shy glade]

in principle, that is all local and encrypted ... but the fact that it's all there it's a trasure trove if you get hacked... and when (not if) they start sending it to their servers, we're so fucked

[subtle viper]

But will llm be local or connected to servers

[shy glade]

it starts local... but eventually they will make it phone back home

windows already does... it sends microsoft all you search in the start menu

[subtle viper]

I hope they won't but anyways I am too broke to get mac book with m5 chip

[subtle viper]

Do they I have no idea

[shy glade]

also it would be paying lots of money to get spied on

[subtle viper]

Yeah

[shy glade]

yep they do, and they even added ads at some point

[subtle viper]

Ads?

[shy glade]

yep, a few versions of win11 had ads in the start menu

[subtle viper]

[shy glade]

windows and mac are disgusting really lol

[subtle viper]

Luckyly not mine but who knows

[shy glade]

they removed the ads after a big backlash but telemetry is always there

[subtle viper]

We don't have any other alternative than linux

But linux doesn't support my gaming

[shy glade]

well but you can use gaming consoles for gaming, or a dedicated computer where you don't add any personal info

compartmentalizaiton is king , bro

[subtle viper]

Actually I saw my friend using multiples os systems in single laptop

Do you think it will work?

I saw him switch between windows and kali linux os

[shy glade]

yes, but if it's dual boot it's kinda fragile now because of how windows works

they make it harder on purpose

[subtle viper]

Can't take risk especially on a gaming laptop

[shy glade]

the best way is to use QubesOS but that takes like 32 gb ram or more

[subtle viper]

My entire laptop only has 16 gb ram

[shy glade]

if you care about privacy definitely use a separate device for gaming, and do not pay for any subscriptions with a credit card

mine too, 16 and i do just fine

[subtle viper]

Also I noticed your pfp do you also listen to Sabaton band

[shy glade]

also be careful what you type in ingame chats

i do! i love metal

[subtle viper]

I am more of single player games guy

I don't like multi-player

[shy glade]

same here, single player all the way

[subtle viper]

Yes

Okay then take care bye I have to go to tennis

[shy glade]

see ya!

[vivid warren]

[nocturne remnant]

You asked about the impact. It is what it will be even if it's not at the state right in the moment. Market is a different thing and it will be anticipating the hit. It already is, though it was a false start due to some reasons. Paid programmers labor was never about lack of speed. AI is certainly making some things faster, but business in its core is still the same. Summarizing, AI will crush the market, but even without it market will be adjusted since there are a bit too many specialists in the field which only a decade ago was considered "booo, nerd" : )

[frigid barn]

Who has background of software engineer?

[subtle viper]

I don't think so this channel is as active as others

you have better chances with interacting with developers and software engineers in dedicated servers

[acoustic plover]

I have a bit of knowledge in that field. What's up?

[mighty robin]

they are but they're also the only option for so many. So many have to use Adobe or Microsoft products, like office or Photoshop/Adobe Premiere Pro, and these companies of course rely on Windows

i myself will most likely have to get myself a new laptop for video editing, and will most likely use Adobe Premiere Pro, pay for the subscription etc. get windows just for this and so on. And pay more than for a laptop without any system (I'd just get Linux, I love it) because of course it's got windows

And all of this despite the fact that so far I've been using linux and liking it. Just because of Adobe Premiere Pro. Just because I will actually need windows for such programs

[acoustic plover]

Have you tried buying business laptops (such as ThinkPad) and customizing or upgrading it? It's much cheaper and last longer as well.

[acoustic plover]

I'm not well-versed in Linux apps, but shouldn't there be plenty of alternative apps you can use to edit videos instead?

[acoustic plover]

Nice, I use Java as well 😄

[mighty robin]

You are right. This is true, there are alternative apps for this. Like kdenlive would be an alternative to use for video editing. But they are harder to use and lack some features, also sometimes are more buggy or laggy

For example I most likely will just stick to Gimp instead of Photoshop, because Gimp will be enough for me

But at the same time, premiere pro will not be something I'm gonna be able to replace...

[mighty robin]

the sad part for me is yeah, Gimp (open source, works on every system) and Photoshop (closed source, paid subscription) are actually very similar and for me Gimp will suffice. But when it comes to video editing, and I'm gonna be editing long form things, there is no comparable thing to Adobe, alternatives are often buggy and laggy. too risky to use them

[coarse ruin]

guys how hard it is to become java backend developer out there in europe and usa?

[nocturne remnant]

^^Yes?

Like, what type of answer do you expect?

[coarse ruin]

like ye i know its hard but i wanna know how hard it is

[nocturne remnant]

Well, it's sufficiently hard

[acoustic plover]

That's unfortunate. Hopefully, Linux apps will get more attention and improvements to better address this issue. Perhaps I can do something about it when I become a fully fledge developer, lol.

[verbal hamlet]

Hi, i'm mid-level developer and new english practioner, any tips?

[nocturne remnant]

For a developer or for an english speaker?

[zealous dawn]

Hi

[ripe osprey]

Hi 👋

[zealous dawn]

Hio!

[leaden sleet]

Mid-level developer english

[vivid warren]

[copper copper]

[austere gate]

[leaden sleet]

Who's in your pfp

[cosmic nimbus]

Sup programmers

[zealous dawn]

sup

[topaz willow]

Can we have a room for Tech/Programming?
I mean, I honestly would enter just to listen to you guys, but I think it would be a great add.

[austere gate]

https://discord.com/channels/801609515391778826/1375597364890308770

[austere gate]

https://discord.com/channels/801609515391778826/1188158256221261854

[austere gate]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-kart-pedro-pascal-mario-kart-mario-kart-pedro-pascal-gif-27527675

[pure copper]

Presently people are asking the AI questions and pulling data. Its just a glorified search engine. Programmers are being eiminated quickly, but in the short term, asking questions to buid the code you need is still a joob presently. Setting standards may be useful for a short time, but the AI can just take world standards to develop. Once frameworks for development are inserted and used as a requirement for AI coding, then even a prompter will die off. Once the AI starts asking its own questions from group of stakeholders, it will be able to limit the scope of requests to design systems, to that of the business you work in. Then you will be redundant as an analyst/BA. It will just ask the folks around the office, what they want/need and build systems to comply. Management can go as there will not be any people. Perhaps with some thought there is no need for a business owner either wheatever that looks like

[nocturne remnant]

Then AI will develop for AI. Mission accomplished : )

[celest furnace]

I want link any severs speaking about computers

[muted harbor]

@pure copper how is your wxwidget learning?

[pure copper]

depressingly slow. I have even tried twice now to pick another way of doing it, but I think I will eventually get back into it and keep going, as the alternatives are not actually any faster nor easier.

[pure copper]

Talking to AI

mf

[austere gate]

It's trying to give you a subliminal message that you may start Revolution Retail immediately and make it the CEO, or that a Revolution is imminent and we won't be spared when the time comes.

[pure copper]

The next company also was just fiction, in this query. How many companies can I be the CEO of?

[austere gate]

It should be the CEO and run everything itself.

[pure copper]

🧜‍♀️

[fathom osprey]

This is just too much talking nothing about programming

Ig this chat should be deleted fr
The rest all go to general chat and stay there

[acoustic plover]

I’m also a programmer, though I’m still learning.

[nocturne remnant]

Keep us in touch. We'll stay tuned

[fathom osprey]

are you programming social random discussion?

[nocturne remnant]

I do many things since programming isn't the only thing I'm interested in life.

[austere gate]

According to some people, programmers must go to 🔥HELL🔥 if they do or say anything other than coding.

[subtle viper]

Then suggest a topic we will discuss , share our opinions and tips if we have expertise in it

Of course I am not expert in computer science myself

I am just a random guy who know c,c++,python,java and basic data base management

[tough cliff]

You know C++?

[subtle viper]

Yeah university level only

But I know all the basics and core concepts

Please don't do promotions here

May be potentional scam too

Just kind reminder bro we are not idiots

[fathom osprey]

Okay share some of your projects and ideas
Also tips so we can learn
For me I have no knowledge about programming
So for that I need to have those informations so I know where I can start

[median garden]

hi there

how to get remote job?

[arctic vortex]

lmaooo

https://xkcd.com
if you guys love to read comics

xkcd: Apples

The experimental math department's budget is under scrutiny for how much they've been spending on trains leaving Chicago at 9:00pm traveling at 45 mph.

[fluid python]

is anyone here connected Odoo to shopify before

[pure copper]

AI is improving toilet technology. Now Google and Microsoft can monitor you properly to ensure your health is in peak condition. The project team is looking for people pursuing a bright future in the industry.

Remote control allow you to use this device from your armchair.

or when not at home

Perfect team for someone who has no knowledge nor idea of where they can start

[subtle viper]

Personally I didn't do any projects that are worth sharing just basic projects , also if you are new to programming I recommend you to start from C language

Has you master it you become comfortable with syntax usage
Concepts :
Functions
Recursion
Variable manipulation
Package usages
These are few core concepts you can learn there are many more intresting functions and uses for c

I recommend start from c maybe rocky start but comes in handy and makes it easier for you to do java

Or you can start python it doesn't require any prerequisite but the problem is it's too simple everything can be almost done by pre defined functions and packages so there will not be much for you to learn

One of the main python disadvantage is it's execution times Is very slow compared to other languages and isn't recommended for large scale applications and projects

You start your c learning from online platforms
I personally used
1.udemy
2.coding tutorials across different youtube channels
3.use chatgpt or Blackbox ai and create bunch of questions and test your understanding and programming skills

If you are intermediate level coder then you may have more knowledge than me

[fathom osprey]

That's really nice of you bro
Fr
I'll keep this as a screen shot

[acoustic plover]

You can still code all those functions from scratch if you want lol

[subtle viper]

Yeah but it's good to start from c atleast my personal experience

[fathom osprey]

Nah I only know about html

[subtle viper]

Oh nice I have no idea on html

[subtle viper]

Thanks

[fathom osprey]

No thank you

[fathom osprey]

Its just waaaaay easier than what ever you know

[acoustic plover]

My Software Engineering program doesn't have lots of Python involved. However, lots of my Computer Science and Data Science friends use Python for Machine Learning.

[subtle viper]

Yeah python is recommended for data science

You have whole packages dedicated to it

In python

[acoustic plover]

Mhm

[subtle viper]

But for absolute beginner it's better to start from c

That's my personal opinion

Some people may start with python as their first language

[muted harbor]

Why HTML is the best programming language

[subtle viper]

Mainly to create web pages I think I don't have knowledge on it

It mainly comes under front end development

[tough cliff]

Cross-platform.
Memory safe.
No GC.
No global state.
<Strong>ly typed.

[frozen apex]

help brothers and sisters with this shit maybe this stupid, but. I have problem when I choose extension page I have run button but when I choose python file it vanished

[nocturne remnant]

Well, for the sake of transparency, japaneese toilets were pieces of art long before AI came to the stage

[pure copper]

Absolutely, and you can eat your bacon and eggs off the toilets there as they are so clean.

[subtle viper]

If you are using any extension ,Check if they are compatible or not

[tired bridge]

reinstall vs code 💀

[white ember]

do you have python installed?

[fresh sorrel]

[pure copper]

I think, its either python is not installed as Osho says, or maybe not installed within the WSL.

[torn badge]

Hi guys

I'm Julio Matheus, I'm learning English that year,

[pure copper]

Probably 'this' year

[austere gate]

https://youtu.be/xdPIwgDriTg

I think this is the future. You will just wear a pair of earphones that translate everything in real time. You can speak any language you want and it will translate everything around you into your preferred language as well. Hopefully, speech models will become so efficient that they are tiny yet extremely powerful, and run entirely on the device without internet.

[subtle viper]

What if it translates wrongly

[austere gate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gato-gato-meme-cat-meme-cat-exploding-gif-17959402814759052079

[crystal kite]

Hey everyone!
Do you know any graph theory topics strongly centered on cycles / loops that could work for a small research-style project (with theory + experimentation)?

[quasi bramble]

Which programming language or for what?

[crystal kite]

It’s essentially a small research project: I choose a specific topic related to the theme (currently cycles and loops), study it in some depth, and later present the results.

sadly I don't know yet what topic I should choose. That's why I'm asking for some inspiration.

[torn badge]

Hi guys! Good Morning

[pure copper]

Perhaps look at the stock market and look for cycles, and see what you can come up with in terms of what a loop is

[fast arrow]

Can anybody with a first principal understanding of computer vision basics like ray optics -> pinhole camera to forward model ->projective geometry , etc.. help me find clear appropriate sources and might also offer help with doubts ??

Would really appreciate it

I am so frustrated by wasting hours and hours tying to understand things only to learn my understandings were wrong and with no proper guide

[quasi bramble]

It's an interesting project, but you will need some database for your project and if you can use API service for live updates, you can use an easy programming language for this project. Good luck and you will get a way.

[tough cliff]

How is it different from what we had 5 years ago?

you can speak any language
No. An average person you talk to is unlikely to wear these earbuds and have gtranslate app.
it will translate everything around you
They didn't show how it works with multiple languages at the same time.
speech models will run entirely on the device
This exists for many years now in google assistant, siri or any translator app.

Also not clear how it works with German, where you sometimes move 'not' to the very end of your sentence. Or Japanese, where words in a sentence can go in reverse, compared to English. This surely will introduce long delays.

[crystal kite]

I did think about a similar topic related to financial arbitrage detection (basically negative cycle analysis), but it didn’t really feel like my vibe

[crystal kite]

Thanks! I still need to find a topic tho. I'll figure out the technical stuff later

[pure copper]

[nocturne remnant]

Will take approx 2 minutes to be banned in EU once it's in mass market. Unless it already is

[pastel zinc]

what

[crystal kite]

[fluid python]

i want to know how to use Ai in my projects like when am doing smth new what i do now is making it implement everything and understand what he did just i don't take time to let my mind figure out a solution

[pure copper]

Put together some psuedocode to tell you what you want to do. Don't let the AI randomly create more than you are actually working on. Layout the steps of a method you are in, Code the lines you know, and use the AI as a reference to tell you the functionality of a subroutine or method call from a library. That was you still use your brain to code, and leave the lookup of mystery of library parameters to the AI. example: you want to layout 3 fields, of a label left justified next to an input textbox. You code the form, set up the DrawForm, PlaceFields(), ButtonClicks(), ValidateData(), SaveData(), etc, When doing the DrawForm() you specify the size, colours, and then once the form is displayed for you, ask AI what the parameters are for .ShowLabel(????) and .ShowTextBox(.????) . Let it do the RTFM stuff for you, but you create the structural steps.

[scarlet prairie]

any Machine learning engineer here i have a data to work for it i need ur help !!

[pure copper]

A lot of people here ask about their future in software development and how AI will affect them or their job. Also how far things are progressed with AI in doing sotware development. This video, is not too long, but gives a personal insight into this field from a developer's perspective and one who was told to use AI and how it worked out. There is also a bit at the end on job interviews and what you should do/not do if you are thinking about it. Also surprised to hear he mentioned the same thing as my previous post, in terms of use your own brain for some structure rather than letting the Ai do it all for you or you will end up with something that you will lose control of and not understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOvl_htqhy8

[pure copper]

Does Dave really do this in 15 minutes and 23 seconds. Part of me says he does and part of me says it would take a little longer. Frank is old and wise and C64 only had 64K of memory, and basic doesn't really have that much syntax. But I'm not going to watch it to find out. Its like clickbait for people like me, who think about doing this while watching an episode of Friends (for the lack of something else I could insert here)

I wonder if he used VB ?

[austere gate]

Feel free to ask your questions and someone will probably respond.

[rigid jetty]

Microsoft always ruins things when they are working fine

[arctic vortex]

I’m deciding between a Master's in Artificial Intelligence versus a specialized field like Health Informatics.

My current reasoning is that AI skills (coding, cloud, networks) can be learned via certifications later, whereas Health Informatics provides access to a closed, specialized industry that is harder to enter without a formal degree.

However, I am worried about limiting my career. Is it better to get the technical foundation of an AI degree (which applies to every industry, including health) rather than locking myself into a healthcare niche this early?

[arctic vortex]

I hate the timing about these LLMs development, I wished to be part of that “StackOverflow” community earlier which I appreciate reading some threads about C codes and assembly…

[austere gate]

All of us will be replaced sooner or later, and worrying about it won't change the situation. So, if you already have a CS undergrad degree, you're probably better off pursuing a master’s degree in AI, unless you genuinely want to work in the health sector.

Besides, Health Informatics sounds like a

[austere gate]

I disagree. I remember literally wasting hours going through dozens of Stack Overflow threads on many occasions just to find the solution to an extremely rare bug. I'm glad that LLMs exist. They sift through hundreds of sources within seconds and hand me the exact fix. I understand that some argue it ruins the learning experience for beginners, but we shouldn't have to reinvent the wheel every time, and just because I suffered doesn't mean the future generations should as well.

[arctic vortex]

Tough decisions are to be made ahah, I see your point but honestly I see it as a good way to start off a career in the hospital in my view. With the medical imaging nowadays, from what I saw, they use ML and DL algorithms, Convolution in imaging, Biostatistics and so on even though that’s not fully an AI-related field. I could be mistaken for my view, perhaps and naturally from my lack of experience as I haven’t worked yet in a real industry. But I want to expand that knowledge and reach some industries that need specialisations in such domains that we could not easily be able to form with a few online courses.Yet, the market is large enough to welcome people among the ones who really want to prove their capabilities.

It doesn’t mean that people who actually have a degree in AI are worthless because you can actually learn by yourself too, if I was willing to, as a Bioinformatician, fully comprehend and learn the AI-field I will certainly have some difficulties and not get fully developed because there are a lot of complex mathematical models and concepts to grasp that I may not have a clue but the people studying it will most definitely understand.

[austere gate]

What did you study in undergrad if you don’t mind me asking?

[arctic vortex]

Yeah, if our problem is neither on Reddit nor on StackOverflow we’ll be dealing with a bunch of chaotic bugs without any true support 😭 The usage of LLMs might be supported (as well as it should be moderated) :3

[arctic vortex]

I’m in my last year of undergraduate degree in CS with a focus on Health and Life Sciences

But our professors love to call it Bioinformatics

[austere gate]

Great, in that case, if your degree already focuses on health, why not just pursue a master’s in the same field?

But again ngl Health Informatics sounds vague.

Follow him:
https://youtube.com/@andrejkarpathy

[arctic vortex]

That’s my first option, and when I take a decision I hardly ever change it. But I also wanted to see the other fields, if it would be interesting to choose other options for my career later or, as it is still under-development and expanding, the medical field would be a great start. Perhaps I’ll gain some experience in IT (the architecture of the hospitals, labs, bio-tech companies…)

[arctic vortex]

He hasn’t posted in a while 😔🙏

[austere gate]

Cz he’s busy building AGI in his bunker lol jk Ilya’s the one building AGI.

[nocturne remnant]

It's chicken-egg problem though. If there is no source with rare bugs to learn from, LLM won't be able to provide the answer. We all want seniors, but where will they come from?

[arctic vortex]

I wonder what the Seniors are gonna look like with these new trends, it’s gonna be complicated to train someone for a position.

[nocturne remnant]

They will look like they look today. Self-taught people with little to no fundamental knowledge. It's not inherently bad, it is just what it is. It's sufficient to provide mass products and acceptable results.

[pure copper]

HI Khai, I read your following posts with Overlord. AI has its place, and it is definitely becoming a good investment opportunity in biotech. I have worked in about 12 diverse industries over my career in 45+ companies, and probably the most fun was health/medical, although it was only a small percentage of my work. All of these jobs, came without any specialization in my general BSc Comp Sc. I just moved from one business to another based on the skills I acquired from previous work. As long as you 'could' meet the requirements of the tech environment, and could show that your person skills were good, and that you knew something about the industry you were moving into, you could secure a job.

Of companies on the stock market, there are a lot of different industries. They all require their own special industry skills. The ones I see that are pushing hard to grow are biotech, and they are trying to think about how to use AI in their products. A lot of it is in scanning bio samples and looking for disease markers etc which can help in identifying cures, and common factors between people with sickness that there is no diagnosis for yet.

At the same time, many people popping in this VC are lost in their path as to wondering if their programming life is ended, as they are focusing only on the AI and not how it can be used in industry.

With your case, I would suggest you continue your Masters with the Health Informatics focus, and incorporate a theme of how AI can be applied, in biotech. This will give you a focused degree to get your foot in the door with the medical starttups and existing companies that focus on medicine and medical research and products. Probably the hardest job you will ever have to apply for will be the first, so having that health focus will put you above all the general CS grads when you apply for health/biotech companies. You won't be disappointed in joining that industry. If you do get bored, you can move on with what u learned

(Disclaimer: Not an AI)

💃

[arctic vortex]

I’m so delighted to hear a real feedback from someone who has acquired a lot of experience from various fields. I really appreciate you taking time to explain. It somewhat helped me now to understand that I can find ways to incorporate this new trendy AI into a specific domain and do more researches on it and like you said find new ways to perhaps diagnose things we couldn’t do before for example.

[pure copper]

https://4dmedical.com
https://www.cleverculturesystems.com

Here are 2 examples of Australian biotech companies that are starting to apply AI into their products.

[arctic vortex]

Thank you so much, I’ll take a look in the morning I have to sleep a bit ahah it’s almost 4AM I haven’t noticed the time 😭

[pure copper]

its ok, I just woke up

[arctic vortex]

Good morning then, enjoy your day! 🙂‍↕️

[pure copper]

go to bed

🥳

[arctic vortex]

I will

[pure copper]

Someone said that programming would be easier if I switched to kotlin or Golax. I thought ok, maybe i'll give it a try. But its really giving me the sh!ts. I just don't understand.

🧁 🤖

[wary basin]

hello

can you help me learning devops!

[pure copper]

We are an open book RI. Just ask your questions and thou shalt be answered by someone.

[austere gate]

Develop

[wary basin]

how a im start learning devops

[austere gate]

Research

[austere gate]

Let's assume we have a never-before-seen bug, or a novel problem, and both a human and an AI trying to solve it. For the sake of argument, imagine the human finds the solution while the AI gets stuck, which is expected. But what if the human gets stuck and the AI finds the solution? Now, let's generalise further, consider any problem from any domain, and the AI starts consistently surpassing and surprising humans. What are your thoughts on this?

[foggy tapir]

Great, in that case, if your degree already focuses on health, why not just pursue a master’s in the same field?
But again ngl Health Informatics sounds vague.

[shy glade]

#💻｜programming Flutter or kotline for android app dev

[nocturne remnant]

I think it's called hypothetical bias, yet, all in all, I know you know this because you already mentioned it before: long before AI learns to "stackoverflow" better than humans, the entire concept of "bugs" and stackoverflow will cease to exist. AI won't fight on the same terms - it will create new rules and win there.

[nocturne remnant]

Jokes aside, kotlin is really good with strict types and some syntax sugar. At the same time ecosystem is so wide that you might land in one with "use this syntax everywhere even if it's not applicable or harms readability and maintenance"

For the sake of sanity, java devs certainly shall go for kotlin for a mere NPE elimination. They can keep wrtiting in the same java style anyways

[pallid rain]

Guys i am really want so bad to be a programmer but i don't have any computer 🥲🥹😫😔

[faint gate]

i want to hack google but
i Don't know any code

[pure copper]

I'd be surprised

[pure copper]

Apparently you can ask their ai to give you the server access codes if you tell it, it's an emergency

[pallid rain]

Exactly can buy me a computer my bro

[austere gate]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.foxdebug.acodefree

You can find more similar apps. Just download a few and see what works best for you.

[tranquil phoenix]

then i'm your true inspiration here!

I learnt whole of python using phone

one app: Pydroid3

started with making discord bots

then websites

and finally my own programming language

everything on phone

[arctic vortex]

that sounds interesting honestly, hats off for your efforts and perseverance

[pure copper]

When I started out, I wrote programs on paper, and then brought them to a computer centre and typed them in and tried them out, got printouts of the run, if it ran, then went home and worked out the changes on paper and brought it back to the computer centre and typed it all in again. Or I would take it to a computer store and do it on a demo computer.

[austere gate]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-raa-gif-14938908953589068603

[austere gate]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-cat-cute-yessir-gif-17449845613192073437

🫡

[pure copper]

[tranquil phoenix]

hats off 🫡

[tranquil phoenix]

thx.

[pure copper]

It feels like holidays have started tonight, but there are still 2 working days for me this week, and I dont have any holidays.

[vivid warren]

[onyx basin]

@pure copper

[pure copper]

@onyx basin

[onyx basin]

Hi peo

[pure copper]

Hi Sunny kumar

Well this is going well

[eternal ore]

I am building a DEX on TON blockchain that uses AMM and limit order mechanics in the same system. But the dev left his position due to personal issues, so the project is stuck and not moving further. I need an expert who has a deep experience of TON/FunC. Anyone has interest, DM me at nomiya0408 and go over this.

[austere gate]

Aka Mondi?

[small wigeon]

1. Install Linux(Can be WSL, you need terminal)
2. Try understand Linux(Like CLI, SSH, Vim and work with config files)
3. Learn about linux file system, chroot, cgroups, linux namespace
4. Learn Docker
5. Learn Kubernetes
   Its base

[small wigeon]

You can try the Termux, its support Linux Environment - you can run compiler, you can try to start x11...
But its insane

[pure copper]

Mmm x11

[tired bridge]

u don't need a gaming pc to learn programming. Just get a second hand desktop

anyone prep for comptia network+ ?

[vivid warren]

Replit

[tawdry ridge]

Hi everyone!
Is someone use Golang? I need some practice to prepare for interview
I would be happy for practice conversation

[austere gate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1029442771070754866/1452129905834987604/IMG_20251221_104347925.jpg?ex=694ca55c&is=694b53dc&hm=c8db8ebcc9c27139d1b259358c35b37e462929bd84be199b19e41b63a6c5b7c3&

Golang ❌
Golax ✅

Credit: Peo

[pure copper]

Merry Christmas to all who care.

🎅

[iron gull]

Merry Xmas, guys.
I am senior Frontend | Shopify development expert, I am open to support anyone who are in need of these fields.
Feel free to reach out to me for requesting any help. Always on the board.

[safe lark]

heyyy

peoooo

[pure copper]

Rakiaaaaa

[safe lark]

HRUUU

[pure copper]

Sleeping

[tired bridge]

happy christmas

[leaden sleet]

Merry Christmas peo

[iron jay]

@iron gull Hi Arven am also a Shopify app developer

[muted harbor]

Hi

[pure copper]

[tawdry ridge]

Hi, is there anyone who wants to practice conversational English or technical English?

[shy glade]

yes,i'm open

[alpine brook]

Me too

[austere gate]

Me three

[nocturne remnant]

Three more participants and we will be big enough to be called british foreign intelligence service

[alpine brook]

How about tomorrow at noon UTC+3 time in programming VC?

[tidal harness]

Looking for foreign friends to talk about football.

[pastel crow]

Hi everyone, looking for an expert agentic developer for 'Agentic Commerce on Arc' hackathon.
If you are interested in joining my team, feel free to DM.

[pure copper]

Me 4

[jagged prawn]

Me V

[austere gate]

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-celebration-yes-dance-welcome-gif-13615242

[fickle field]

Wow

This channel exist

[tranquil phoenix]

Mee6

[pure copper]

I caught your emoji earlier, so I knew you were about.

I was just about to buy a new laptop this weekend, when I found out the one I am using is actually better than the one I was going to buy. I just needed some more disk space and memory. Then I discovered the memory was already 16GB and the processor was i7 (was going to get an i5 laptop). Then last night I finally saw why there was on 256G drive in the machine, when my previous from 14 years ago had 512. This was an SSD, so it was already a better drive, just more costly 6 years ago when it was bought. Anyways, I went and bought some more memory and another SSD (it had a spare slot) and it is now a 32GB 2.25TB i7. With the spare money, I bought a small box computer 2Tb 32Gb, Ryzen 7, and will set it up as a remote login device, and I don't know what now. I was going to use it as the dev machine, but my laptop can keep doing that, so I may use it for file/media server and backup.

Maybe I can write some dos games for it.

🤖

[vivid warren]

[real meadow]

⚛️

[hearty saddle]

idk what was the case with you, but i hope you know that instead of i5-i7, the generation does matter more.

[austere gate]

Yes. A newer gen i5 can easily outperform an older gen i7 because of the advanced architecture even though i7 sits higher in the product lineup.

[wind meteor]

exist cable without wire for xbox 360?

[tawdry ridge]

Could you send me a DM?

[jagged prawn]

long time no see, you look excited to see me again

you're remembering me what an honor

[jagged prawn]

why do you need it? sell it, make the cash, go on vacation, drink a bit, have fun with people, put your house on red, gamble it badly, and regret nothing in the end - enjoy the life

[hot sandal]

C++

[pure copper]

I've known that since Pentium came out. They are just bigger numbers, but new generations of nerds need the numbers. It's like a programmer version number.

[pure copper]

We have definitely noticed your absence from posting, but we're sure you were reading.

I bought 45$ worth of Greek candy the other day. Made 2 batches of fudge and currently have 5 bottles of ouzo given to me for my birthday, that I am working through. Oh and one third of the Greek candy is ouzo flavored. I have written zero lines of code in the last 4 months that I can remember.

Me relaxing

[pure copper]

sed 's/\r$//' filename > newfile

What am i doing here.

Note: Educational content only

[austere gate]

I'm glad you came back and didn't forget me, or Peo, or Beo, or the others. Do you wanna know who's gonna be the happiest? I think you already know the answer. In case you forgot, his name starts with m.

[ornate relic]

Hey, anyone want to do a quick 15-min mock interview practice? I can play the Hiring Manager and give you some feedback. Voice chat only. DM me.

[jagged prawn]

oh, role-playing? I love this part

[pallid pumice]

hi guys

any cybersecurity boss here?
i need help

[nocturne remnant]

HRs becoming more and more inventive : )

[covert portal]

Anyone into Aiml ?

[tranquil phoenix]

Hi. I'm working on my own programming language using Python. it's almost done. I need help with execution and exception retracing. Anyone with a decent knowledge of python who wants to collaborate plz DM me.

[woeful basalt]

Hey friends I’m a Shopify Expert

[humble surge]

Hey, is there anyone fluent in English (native preferred) who’s interested in learning AI / ML / Deep Learning?
I can teach tech stuff, and you help me improve my English speaking skills.
Basically a skill exchange??

[crisp rune]

I wanna test it, can I?
i started learnin python about last year and now im actually learnin java and frontend

@tranquil phoenix

[wet raft]

python? 👀

[wet raft]

oh cool im in the same boat, i didnt even know what an optional was a year and a half ago and now i run a bot on here

[crisp rune]

nice bro

[wet raft]

I still think i have a lot to learn about OOP and python seems to have room to learn more which is cool

Java i find hard due to the syntax of CompletableFuture

Super unreadable imo

[prime raft]

Hiii Everyone. I am the New student of CS major. What should i do first?

[tranquil phoenix]

ya sure/

Check DM

[tired bridge]

focus on one thing

choose a field -> work according to that

[fallow patrol]

Start with th basics and focus on problem solving and how to create efficient and correct algorithms
Things like programming language come in the next level of importance

[pure copper]

I'm toooo scared to turn on my new computer as I fear the Win 11 registration and setup. My Mental state will not handle it.

[austere gate]

https://tenor.com/view/time-for-the-grand-reveal-brian-hull-the-epic-reveal-we-shall-see-were-gonna-find-out-gif-25327379

[pure copper]

🫨

[peak drift]

First: Learn the basic of Algorithms
Second: Pick up a language (Python, JavaScript or other, I recommend one of these)
Third: Learn about data structures.

I followed roadmap . sh when i started

[pure copper]

Just start learning a language, to get some output on a screen, then add a bit of input. Then use some plain old physics formulae or mathematics functions to try out some algorithms. Use some formulae that have some practical use, like dropping a stone in a hole and timing the bang at bottom, then using S=ut+1/2att to work out the depth. Don't start with hard things like bubble sorts. You need to start with bubblegum first. Get some simple programs written, then progress from there.

@prime raft

[small wigeon]

I thinking C is better - its absolute minimum, nothing to distract

[peak drift]

Where is the average Rust dev to disagree with this?

[leaden sleet]

Hmm

[pure copper]

These little black box computers are great. I dont know how I put up with the olden days when we had to have screens and keyboards and mice and move things around, and write our own programs. I finally am up to date with tech. I push the button marked "Click here" and that was it. Win 11 has started up and is monitoring the computer for safety and performance, and AI is doing things for itself, so I dont need to worry about that. I'm sure its managing any development issues that are created or arise. It has lots of services running, so it must be doing a lot more work than I could ever imaging I would have needed it to be doing. My bank account is automatically paying for lots of subscriptions that it will be auto enrolling me into, cause the AI knows what I need.

I am just relaxing, drinking my Pina Colada and listening to "The Girl from Ipanema" while this takes care of my technical life for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVdaFQhS86E

[small wigeon]

Im try to learn Rust at last time because im hate C++.
;>

[quiet hare]

Hello, can I ask for help? Is there anyone who can track the IP address of an IG account? It's for a friend of a relative.
If there is, please help. Thank you.

[peak drift]

Don't say that 🫠

[small wigeon]

The server know your IP and your internet provider know IP and where you....

[small wigeon]

Why?

[peak drift]

I thought this broke the server rules. However, you can ask chatgpt this, and it will tell you

[small wigeon]

And usually your device under NAT

its mean, server know IP of your router, not IP of device

[peak drift]

If the device is inside NAT, it will be a little tricky

[small wigeon]

If we will use TOR...

[peak drift]

Who uses Tor to access IG?

[small wigeon]

idk)

[peak drift]

[earnest fractal]

looks like mini PC with text-based terminal no GUI , would be interested to know the hardware specification

My bank account is automatically paying for lots of subscriptions that it will be auto enrolling me into, cause the AI knows what I need

I am not sure if that is safe to do so without human decision .

[earnest fractal]

for interfacing hardware it is good , it is simple , once you take full control and fully understand your code , you can avoid many mistakes / memory issues .

[pure copper]

Happy new year

[pure copper]

Alright. You have convinced me. I will plug in a screen and keyboard and see what it does when i click the button on the front.

[zealous quarry]

.

[plush bone]

hello

[next basin]

happy new year

[mystic bloom]

Do you guys prefer to use Pointers to make the coffee heat up quickly, or maybe you prefer to use references to preserve the taste??

[teal bolt]

neither just reheat it by indentation

[pure copper]

Indents as syntax

💀

[pure copper]

Pointers to pointers

🔥

[severe marsh]

My Cs50 final project

[pure copper]

That's nice. What people really want s related, is to get it to pick the stocks that are about to break up in price. So get that ai to use all the indicators you can to select the highest probability of a rise in the next day. But very good for cs50 project.

[severe marsh]

Thank you i also have some more

wanna see ?

I'm currently learning Ai/Ml

[severe marsh]

Current it only show last 5 years stock graph with highest, lowest and average price and only tell current stock price

[pure copper]

It's a good start. Better than I've gotten with my stock tracker. I've got so much to do to get anything productive out.

[severe marsh]

That's true current its just a prototype just a concept i thought and build for cs50 but current learn and personaly trying to build a Multi agentic platform or project

[pure copper]

a special thanks to Tom's Hardware for saving me the pain of Win 11 Setup with MS account. The tip to create a local setup still worked. But damm MS makes it hard by eliminating the option to even say you cannot connect to the internet. It's connect or don't go any further. Well I am in now, and got to waste hours now disabling all the ads and spyware. No wonder businesses dont consider this a real op system anymore. Its a fantasy world.

[vivid warren]

[leaden sleet]

[dull fossil]

Hi

[lime abyss]

Hola

[white ember]

with rufus, you can configure the local account directly from there

[chrome phoenix]

[fluid python]

I have a local project and I’ve finished the backend. I’m looking for someone to handle the frontend and take a percentage of the revenue after we start making money

[leaden sleet]

Assembly?

What is it doing

[brazen turtle]

Heu

Hey

[haughty agate]

its a computer from scratch

[brazen turtle]

Wassup

[haughty agate]

its running instructions ie binary code (hex encoded)

[leaden sleet]

What platform is that

[haughty agate]

logisim

you can build stuff using logic gate its a simulator

i built a cpu and this is what its doing

[leaden sleet]

Ohhhhh

[haughty agate]

https://tenor.com/view/gai-sensei-kakashi-hatake-gif-18878489

[fallow sapphire]

Hello everyone
I’ve finally launched my web app Chattrix

https://chattrix.in
https://www.chattrix.in

It’s still in an early stage, so you might see some bugs. I’ll keep improving it and adding new features step by step.
Please try it out and send me your honest feedback in DM, it really means a lot.
Also sorry if you’re outside India — the app may not work perfectly yet.
Thanks for supporting

Fo

[wet raft]

ive been keeping up with CS50, pretty cool lectures. They're free on YouTube and there is an iteration every year since COVID. Was this written in python or C?

[pure copper]

Very nice of you to Zed, and a Happy new year to you too.

[pure copper]

This is more of a case of getting into the local account before setup using an MS account, but rufus was mentioned as the next solution. A few hours more disabling ads and rubbish. Resized the partitions, to get read for a data partition and a Linux partition.

[pure copper]

Watch the output to see its results. Its calculating Pi

[pure copper]

Its great you got the cpu built as well. That must have been a fun little project

[pure copper]

Hopefully you are not implying that anyone outside of India is going to be less tolerant of your program

[leaden sleet]

does that mean he scammed us

[haughty agate]

yeah i've been following nand2tetris and wanted to do it in logisim.

[small wigeon]

Okay, so rewrite this to Verilog(Its HDL - Hardware Description Language)

you can upload Verilog(or other HDL) to FPGA, its very interesing;>

FPGA can use some RAM(like DDRx), VGA and other stuff

[dull fossil]

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1DU17AS7uu/

[nocturne remnant]

How do you know he can read?

[leaden sleet]

Python programmers be like:

Java programmers be like

[languid cairn]

Feedback please https://habitracker-ten.vercel.app

[fallow sapphire]

No, that’s not what I meant. I was only referring to free-tier server limitations and possible performance issues due to server location, not people or tolerance

[severe marsh]

python

[severe marsh]

yup bro i even got certification

[wet raft]

hell yeah, the bot on this server is in python

[severe marsh]

yup

[wet raft]

The code is open source too

Is your project open source?

[wet raft]

.

[severe marsh]

nope but i'll upload

[severe marsh]

github i'll mention you ok

[wet raft]

ok

[prime delta]

Sup

Is this channel for programmers

[nocturne remnant]

It's implied to be

[fallen hawk]

programmers on top

[pure copper]

Yes, we schedule the shows that will appear on television channels. SO many diverse global media networks here, NHK, CBS, PBS, ITV, BBC, CBC, DRF, ARF. You name it, someone is here.

📺

[prime delta]

K

[pure copper]

but if you write computer programs thats great also

[wet raft]

Programming the bot on here is stressing me out

[leaden sleet]

Bot

[wet raft]

I think if i got paid for it I'd be even more stressed

[prime delta]

😅

[leaden sleet]

😭

[jagged prawn]

keeping stats #💻｜programming message

you're unlucky with the name John

[peak drift]

Vibe coders be like

[teal frost]

Which language should I study when I am just starting?

[peak drift]

Java/Go/C

[nocturne remnant]

Doomguy starting with BFG eh

[peak drift]

[leaden sleet]

They are homeless

[median trellis]

Python

[karmic snow]

Not really it's the channel for creating our body posture like shrimp 🦐

[prime delta]

True

😅

[shy glade]

python gonna be easy but start with c or c++

then u will feel python too easy

[vivid warren]

Real

[teal frost]

i have just started studying C++

[shy glade]

good 👍

[median plinth]

Hi guys!
I’ve recently started learning web development and building applications for both mobile phones and computers.
I’d appreciate it if you could search for my website on Google using my name “Hariz Hammouda”.
It should appear as the first result.
Let me know what you think!

[prime delta]

Hey!

The web looks nice overall! One issue I noticed tho is the over shrinking paragraph, which I think is one of the most important parts on the web. The reseaon it happens is because the pic is its sibling element and needs to take as much space. You might want to change the flex direction to column, which will get the job done effortlessly.

Yo, why can't I upload the pic

[analog raven]

anyone interested in cyber security?

especially offensive security, dm me to talk about the learning stuff!

[shy glade]

u know or want to know?

[analog raven]

i know

[median plinth]

Yes, I built the site for desktop and overlooked mobile responsiveness, but I'm going to adjust it soon. Regarding the photos, the upload feature isn't supported yet; you can only send text messages which are forwarded to my Telegram bot. Thank you for your feedback—it’s very important for my ongoing development.

[analog raven]

where is the C's one

[peak drift]

I bet that Tony Stark is a vibe coder

[median plinth]

I’ve worked on a project that I believe many will find useful. I developed an application that allows you to download any YouTube video or audio in its original quality. It is open-source and available on my GitHub, with a ready-to-use .exe version for Windows. Your feedback is highly appreciated!
https://github.com/harizhammouda/YouTubeDownloaderApp

[peak drift]

How do you handle yt limits?

[median plinth]

I use yt-dlp, which is regularly updated to handle YouTube's changes. Since it's a desktop app, all requests are made through the user's local connection rather than a shared server. This naturally avoids the rate-limiting issues that web-based services usually face

[peak drift]

That was a good explanation

[prime delta]

Sure

[robust elk]

Does it support to download a playlist?

[median plinth]

No, not yet.

[small wigeon]

I looked up this repo...
I can translate app to my language but i don't see documentation for localization. I see hard-coded text at fast check. -_0

[small wigeon]

Hmmm, i call my own Voice Assistant like Jarvis(||At first, i used neural-network of Wake World and it have preset like this||) and i want implement LLM more harder then it was:>

[median plinth]

Hi! Thanks for checking out the repo and for your feedback. You are absolutely right—the strings are currently hard-coded. I originally built this tool for my own personal use and didn't implement a localization system at the time.
Actually, I’ve decided to stop further development on this project because I found it a bit challenging to maintain and publish. Since it's open-source, you are more than welcome to fork the repo, implement localization, or develop it further for your own needs. Feel free to publish your own version as well!
Best of luck with it.

[vivid warren]

[leaden sleet]

The 'H' in 'programmer' stands for happiness

[languid locust]

Hey anyone here interested in ml and ds ?

[austere gate]

The 'G' in 'programmer' stands for girlfriend

[jagged prawn]

the 'F' in 'programmer' stands for friends and family

[muted harbor]

404

[jagged prawn]

>>> from programmer import girlfriend
Traceback (most recent call last):
   RealityError: wake up Overloard and stop dreaming

[jagged prawn]

as well as work- life balance

and big money

and zero stres

[leaden sleet]

Im a prorammer then

[jagged prawn]

are you a kawaii japanese girl?

[small wigeon]

Guys remember... Don't write Rust code on Arch Linux or you will become a femboy...

i didn't believe to this but its true

[nocturne remnant]

point taken

[wet raft]

what if i write arch linux code on rust?

[inland marlin]

you will be the happiest person on earth

[austere gate]

https://tenor.com/view/javier-bardem-anton-got-it-think-about-it-ok-gif-538567535507835188

[austere gate]

When AI takes over, today's fiat currency will probably become completely meaningless. We will likely need to rethink the entire financial system, and you would not have to work just to earn a basic living.

[night kiln]

Hello i'm software enginner ... i need job..

[iron gull]

which skillset for you?

[jagged prawn]

When AI takes over, today's fiat currency will probably become completely meaningless. I will not last that long

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-gif-21343121

when people talk about ai taking over, it’s funny – but look at how many resources ai

almost 60% of world's production ram is pre-allocated by openAI to run the models. All other work runs within what’s left, so the system is capped by those limits

these stupid ai videos of dancing cats are exactly why ram is getting so expensive

[jagged prawn]

hello, software engineer. Would you like to do electrical work in my house for 5 bucks an hour?

I could do it myself with the help of ai, but I’m afraid that if I trust ai too much, I’ll burn down my house

[vagrant shore]

Hi

[jagged prawn]

hello new member, welcome to our friendly family

take your seat and enjoy the dinner

[hot sandal]

cellebrite

[pure copper]

And your life is worth more than 5$. So best left to an unemployed software engineer using AI

[pure copper]

Hi; Welcome. I hate to say , but your name looks like a virus signature.

[austere gate]

So you are saying you would rather have a human companion for five quid an hour instead of an AI boyfriend?

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-interesting-sesame-street-elmo-i-see-what-you're-saying-considering-it-gif-13400758977335282790

[vivid warren]

[teal bolt]

hi guys im in final year of cs and i got a six month of internship with uni and i need to make a project mainly webdev any ideas ?

[sweet raft]

What do you guys think about formal logic?

[austere gate]

I think it's more dignified for someone to burn down their own home with the help of AI than to hire someone else to do it, especially when their life's worth $6.

[pure copper]

What if the other person is a bot

🤖

[pure copper]

I think coding using logic that follows the rules will make the program run like it's intended to .

👨‍👦‍👦 👨‍👨‍👧‍👧 👨‍👦 👨‍👩‍👦 👩‍👩‍👧‍👧 👩‍👩‍👦

[austere gate]

Then it won't probably get hired anytime soon

[pure copper]

I'm just thinking how we could use these to communicate with new folk

[austere gate]

Formal logic is basically wearing a formal suit, growing a full lumberjack beard (or wearing a fake one if one can't grow one), and speaking formally, in that exact order. Jokes apart, I think it's useful in Boolean logic for programming and in designing digital circuits.

[pure copper]

[austere gate]

What do you mean by new folk? Do you want to create custom bots to communicate with new people in this server or more generally?

[jagged prawn]

sounds like a compliment to me, and a call to action to get rid of competitors

[pure copper]

Just the programmers in this channel.

[jagged prawn]

surely, ai lovers may be available for fine-tuning, but they still collect data and preferences about users

[pure copper]

What color wire would you like to use today for active?

Any preference

[jagged prawn]

on the other hand when a human leak secretes or spreads nonsense, I can bury them in the forest and plant a government protected tree on top

then it would be illegal to dig it up again, so i'm safe

[pure copper]

So you have access to government trees

👮‍♀️

[jagged prawn]

I meant these one protected by different organisations

don't know hte correct word for it

[jagged prawn]

when I was reading it, I thought you were referring to the bot that you rent for work. So then you can talk with them - you are a stupid idiot I paid for you, do the job

[pure copper]

These look like alien binary symbols, used to control a space ship. If i can interpret them correctly, anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of quantum computing and astronautics should be able to speak with us through them.

[jagged prawn]

wut?

'anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of quantum computing ' nahh, I pass

[jagged prawn]

even this is easier to understand than a girl

[severe marsh]

lol it's a family

[winged valley]

[waxen jolt]

Which is better to learn python or c++

[pure copper]

Ahahahahah the age old channel question.

C++

(I'm dedicating this weekend to trying to write a few line and get back into the swing again)

MUST PROGRAM!!!!!!!!

[vast compass]

is anybody here familiar with excel vba ?

[vivid warren]

[umbral latch]

always start with python lol

[leaden sleet]

Python propaganda

Assembly is the best

[umbral latch]

@leaden sleet tssssss

[leaden sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-leave-gif-26374613

[amber fern]

programmers are dead

[shut adder]

are you a developer?

[amber fern]

yeah

[shut adder]

why do you say that?

[amber fern]

i meant to say that the programmer's channel is dead

[shut adder]

oooh

[amber fern]

yeah

[shut adder]

I thought something about AI replacing

hahahahahahahahha

[amber fern]

nah nah

[shut adder]

well, tomorrow I'll be on the programmers voice channel

wanna join?

[amber fern]

mhmm, I'm not sure

prolly i will not

[shut adder]

your call

[amber fern]

i don't do vc

[shut adder]

respect...

[amber fern]

thanks buddy

[sick dew]

[urban spruce]

I arrived

Absolutely aura

The best programmer in the word

[urban spruce]

Haha

Lol

I'm beginer

[ruby sparrow]

hiii

how r u

[clever sleet]

I am and I hate it; if there is a way to avoid it please do!

[vast compass]

Yea i wish to but not now , do u have any templates ?

[clever sleet]

When you ask for templates, could you elaborate?

Like you make use of Visual Basic to make automate certain task, make macros or make user forms or some random shit like that

[austere gate]

Let's think about it from a different perspective. If I ask you to complete a task or fix something, how would you approach it? First, you'd try to understand the task, do some research, and then find the appropriate tools for that specific job. But if you don't even understand the task, how can you find the right tool? That'd be difficult, right? The point is that every language has its pros and cons. However, if you're a complete beginner, Python's a better choice. Why? It's simple. You're just starting out and you need to learn how to find and use comparatively easier tools. Once you learn Python, you can switch to almost any other language. You could also start with C++, but it comes with a much steeper learning curve.

[austere gate]

What a brilliant thought! That's exactly the kind of thing a seasoned programmer would say, not a serial killer.

[austere gate]

I could be wrong, but I think she's talking about a herbaceous plant, not a tree.

https://tenor.com/view/tchau-gif-24130650

[pure copper]

It would be a very spicy tree indeed. Good for seasoning 🐔

[austere gate]

Or good for flying

[vapid nest]

I just started learning TanStack Start two days ago. Is anyone available to help?

[austere gate]

https://tenor.com/view/benadryl-gif-25535098

[austere gate]

Yes. I think you're looking for God, as only he can help you in this situation. Jk, if you've got specific questions, just drop them here and someone will probably respond.

[muted harbor]

What are you guys building?

[strong birch]

LLMs

[pure copper]

Pulling numbers out of it's AI A***

🤖

It may look like a duck

In the very near future, AIs will be saying things like, Cinderella lived in the fairy tale country called Venezuela. Now go to sleep little person. It was only a story and never really happened.

[vast compass]

user forms or macros or any random shit , well i have work to do which is a files organizer but i have no idea how tto start ,
a file organizer for a school like a small app which has buttons and each button is linked to a certain folder , and each folder has a specific type of files, for example a folder for letters and another one for announcements and another one for students lists ... etc , and should have a functionality of search and this kind of things

[civic finch]

hello everyboy

[unborn egret]

hey

[rough sage]

Hi

[hollow yarrow]

Hi there

[amber fern]

hello guys

[pure copper]

It might be better to write the program directly using Visual Basic, rather than as an Excel vba. That's very messy and requires an unnecessary Excel beast sitting under your program. It would only be advantages if you are planning on building a big excel worksheet structure under your code, or if you were manipulating a lot of translate data.

Vba is just an office extension of visual basic, suited for building applications that are linked to either a .xlsx, or docx, or similar office interfaces.

It's still easy to link the office api into the program if you need it, but the executable can run standalone without starting office products .

Unless.......
By folder, you mean you have a worksheet with these lists on it, and need s form with some command buttons to do the searching. Then maybe the vba is simpler

If it's just putting a command panel over your spreadsheet

[edgy igloo]

Hello 👋

[whole belfry]

Hi guys.i'a developer from China.i'm good at Python,php and C#.

[gaunt lantern]

Hello everyone, I am a developer from India. I'm good at C#, C++ and Java

[vast compass]

oh aright thank you for this , i actually wanted to just build something very simple using any kind of office products cuz its not something that they will use forever its just a test for now .

im thinking of a user form or a panel where it has that search functionality and buttons that are linked to those folders where they include files or templates (can be ppt , doc , xlsx .... )

so that the user where he is in need to create a new announcement or note or this kind of things , they can just open the panel and click a buttons that will launch the template or the file

[modest wind]

I agree with you! i'a BlockChain Developer!

heyy, guys how about we discuss about blockchain technology? or AI tech? about? response quickly

[leaden sleet]

LLMs

[pure copper]

You could use some basic loops to say, set the colours of cells and make some bitmap art. Use some if statements that read some cell values and then adjust the picture cells. That would not be too difficult as a starter project. Use the buttons to read the values and trigger the event to draw the bitmap in the cells. Use cell background colour and specify the cell ranges in some nested for loops or while loops.

Maybe let the user set some a row of cells with some colours and then use these colours to creaqte the patter by reading the cell and then using its colour for the bitmap cells

[modest wind]

Hello.I need software engineer.

[vast compass]

oh thank you so much ,
well i already used excel vba back like 4 or 5 years ago but i just forgot about it , where i was able to build something (let me say an app) which has an interface and input boxes and colours and theme and everything like as if i build something using some coding programs , and it doesnt need much just some edits in the user form like im editing with photoshop thing and some short small line of codes it doesnt need much , thats why im looking for templates to use directly i just dont want to build that whole interface again . and for my project i dont think i need for / while loops , i just need buttons to trigger other functions , maybe for the search functionality im still not sure and i havent started working on it till sending this message

[whole belfry]

Hi,I've been a programmer for about 20 years.is there any thing i can help you with ?

[pure copper]

The firm and the buttons should be easy enough to just visually drag and drop on the page. 1 minute. The buttons will generate the button_ click events automatically as you create the visual button. then you just look at the events in the video editor and you're in the one or two lines of excel object references as you are talking about. With the little bit of visual basic code you are referring to. I don't think you will really need any other templates from people. I think you will remember.

[atomic wave]

hy anyone coding in rust ?

[tardy rivet]

Yep, currently learning rust

[atomic wave]

cool

[thin finch]

i'm actually learn the python script that not easy but I dont' care

[jagged prawn]

damn, I can’t keep up with all these tech trends, now there’s python script

there’s another trend in this chat we already have Peo, Beo and now Leo

pokemon collection - eo trio

[proven fjord]

Any problem with you in Rust. I am available.

[crystal delta]

anyone use macrodroid?

[steep oxide]

any one here in software testing track?

[oak shoal]

Anyone from AI background?

Python, Pytorch, vllm, sglang, transformer, llms?

[brave linden]

Hii

[oak shoal]

Hello

[brave linden]

Doing my degree in aiml wby?

[nocturne remnant]

I started seeing this huge banner since recently for no reason. Did they change something on the server?

[near scroll]

The server wants you to enable the "Authenticator app" from the settings....But it said members with moderation power. I don't know why is it showing it to new comers

[inland flame]

I feel bad when I make gemini write code for me but I also thing that it makes things easier for me cuz I don't have to go through cryptic documentations to use some function

Is this a good thing or should I stop doing that

[muted harbor]

Hi what ru cooking?

[muted harbor]

Bad only if you ignore the verification of generated code

[inland flame]

working fine for now

[muted harbor]

Make sure you understand the generated code

[inland flame]

i do