💻｜programming

[sterile apex]

👍

perfect

[shy glade]

😤

[sterile apex]

let's try hard for our dream!

lol

[shy glade]

Lamo

[sterile apex]

[shy glade]

Sure i do

[sterile apex]

which university do u go?

[shy glade]

[sterile apex]

🤨

is it a secret?

[shy glade]

For now haha

[sterile apex]

[sterile apex]

gn, @shy glade

and good job @pure copper

[pure copper]

Everyone here can also

[pure copper]

Thanks for listening. I hope my voice scrambler was not too hard to listen to.

[sterile apex]

🥴

[pure copper]

60 pages of notes

[sterile apex]

sorry

but it's true that there is an issue in my mic

i'll buy a new one and join vc.

[pure copper]

I want to run a conversation on AI and the future of the job market. It would be good to have you up and a special guest

get a mic

[sterile apex]

👍

ok

[pure copper]

/co host

[sterile apex]

i'll buy one

😉

[pure copper]

👍

🎙️

I had such big dreams of reading my books tonight, but alas, to no avail.

and I got 4 hours of recorded viewing to watch from earlier

[sterile apex]

u wasted much time for the class

u need relax for tomorrow.

for your big project

and to add flesh to the skeleton

[prime breach]

Does anyone know how to put a GIF pho as a wallpaper on pc ?

like this

[glad wind]

use google

[pure copper]

So today at work I was (how did it start.....Thinking) oh a news story about learning. So I read the story and it was about reading and learning to read English. So I looked up some theories on Learning to read, and though aha,, Theres and idea for a program. So I wrote up a quick spec of requirements and ideas to put into it, Dictionary of english words, search/filter to identify words containing sound sylables, difficulties of words, multiple phonemesand a few editing features to assist in building the word categories like brit/US pronunc etc. Chucked it in my bag, and thought, I quick look for a word list online that I can download. first one 5000 words, and listed by frequency, but its a web site, and the first one on the search, and it basically does everything I though I would make for myself. Very disappointed.

[sterile apex]

[pure copper]

Try right clicking on it while on your PC and there should be a setting called Set as desktop background

[prime breach]

it appear like a jpeg not gif

[pure copper]

you mean it has no animation?

[prime breach]

yeah\

[sterile apex]

check this url @prime breach

https://www.tourboxtech.com/en/news/how-to-make-a-gif-your-wallpaper.html****

[pure copper]

what is the .html****

[prime breach]

what is this ?

its a website

right ?

[sterile apex]

sorry it was https://www.tourboxtech.com/en/news/how-to-make-a-gif-your-wallpaper.html

lol

really sorry

[prime breach]

its okay

[prime breach]

thx i will try it

[sterile apex]

my pleasure

[inland remnant]

does anybody have any experiences with the dotnet framework ?

[ashen mortar]

I have experience just with Blazor (framework front-end)

[shy glade]

Good morning guys

[ebon yacht]

good everning

[shy glade]

everning lmao

[pure copper]

Good mornering all

[shy glade]

👍

[topaz snow]

BitDotNet any suggestions?

[pure copper]

Don't use tyre black, if one lives on a dirt road.

[native prism]

Hey yo

[shy glade]

Yo yo

[dark kernel]

no

[native prism]

What you guys building these days?

[shy glade]

User domain using JWT

[native prism]

user domain, what that would be

[shy glade]

Every things on my web service. It could be particular features, interface of repository, queries, class, method...

but it's for User(member, customer whatever you want call)

[twin solar]

I'm building 🏫. Ur building?

[shy glade]

hello constructer guy

[native prism]

Ohh understood

That’s nice

[inland remnant]

oh so that's mean you know dotnet core framework though I can remember most changes in dotnet 8 changes have referred to blazor

[pure copper]

Is building destructors a contradiction?

[sterile apex]

[plush parrot]

A paradox

Oxymoron

[shy glade]

Oh update of bash

[shy glade]

I mostly use java so i don’t care
The GC do care

[sterile apex]

🤨

[vague lagoon]

hello

[shy glade]

Hi dude

[sterile apex]

anybody here?

[shy glade]

[karmic snow]

https://tenor.com/view/nowhere-desert-highway-gif-13971394

[upper cove]

Hello guys

How to make hash table with c

[shy glade]

:google:

[upper cove]

I understand hash table

But can not code

[upper cove]

I already Google it before ask

[shy glade]

https://www.sanfoundry.com/c-program-implement-hash-tables/

Then you couldnt understand or you have to learn more about c

[upper cove]

I need learn more about c

From linked list

[shy glade]

Then try copilot

[upper cove]

I be baaad

I have task

[shy glade]

break down and try to uderstand this example

[upper cove]

Why i can not send img

[pure copper]

🤠

[pure copper]

Shred the potatoes. Add an egg and mix with some salt and pepper, then pour in a pan and flatten out. Cook until lightly golden brown

Alternatively make some little data structures for your info and join together with pointers

[silent zephyr]

oh we talk about programing to

[pure copper]

yes

[shy glade]

im not a coder but i can write a litte bit

[silent zephyr]

I see

[upper cove]

And add some of my milk and rhan you eat it

[karmic snow]

You like cowboys

[pure copper]

I like tumbleweeds

[karmic snow]

Lol

[sterile apex]

[pure copper]

Hey, that's got some good little sections with simple coding on various hashing and other exciting things in C including pointers. Worth looking at @upper cove

[errant slate]

What is that an programming langauge?

I've never seen this one

I only knew what Pyhton, Java, Javascript, C# or C++ and Lua

I didn't know a few

only those who I count

[shy glade]

C lang

[upper cove]

Thank you
I solved it ❤️

[native prism]

The greatest of all

[grim iris]

Hello guys! i'm Gabriel! I am searching for a teacher or a jedi who can show me a good way to become a full stack or backend developer! i would like to talk about work in a real job of development because i never worked in this kind of work!!! if any one could help me, please text me !!

[shy glade]

Wellcome aboard.

[upper cove]

Welcome

[opal dove]

hello

In the club, is there anyone who is a web developer?

[pure copper]

That is C, Its what C++ and C# and many other languages are based from.

vc anyone?

in Programming

[upper cove]

Me

[upper cove]

Front end

[opal dove]

What do you use for it?

[opal dove]

.

My English is a bit weak, please understand

[upper cove]

I am just newbie use html and css , bootstrap,js

[upper cove]

I understand u

[opal dove]

where do you live

[upper cove]

Come dm

[opal dove]

dm?

[upper cove]

It mean private chat

I send you message

[pure copper]

?

[upper cove]

I want make programer friends

I send friend request for alot people here

[opal dove]

sorry, i understand

[pure copper]

I dont mind friends, I just spend my time here, because then I know where I know people from. I gave up getting 'discord friends' and then people never speak again, and I have long lists of profile pics and no guts behind them. Sort of like classes, but no objects.

[upper cove]

CONNECT WITH ME ON LINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohamed-rajab-3a12aa1b2?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=android_app

[upper cove]

If we have same interesting i think we will speak every day

[opal dove]

i dont use linkedin 😅

[pure copper]

me neither

same issue

[upper cove]

What do use guys

[shy glade]

discord

[upper cove]

To share your work and follow news about programming

[pure copper]

discord channel

[opal dove]

i use reactjs and vuejs

[shy glade]

bruh

[upper cove]

Great 😂😂😂

[pure copper]

I sat in vc for 1 hour, randomly having drop ins, and they all just leave 10 seconds later

I need a pfp of a blue penguin with a book on my head, then people wouldn't be just looking for picture people

[upper cove]

Are you web developer?

[shy glade]

they might expect you to be a female since pfp

[pure copper]

no. I'm presntly sitting here trying out c++

[pure copper]

very true

[upper cove]

I learn c but i haye it

I hate c

[shy glade]

good luck managing memory 🫡

[pure copper]

I actually don't mind c, but damm this C++, I haven't done it for so long, and now that I think of it, Ive never done it a c++ program from nothing. Its always been adding onto an existing system.

[upper cove]

Guys i want join more programmers servers could you help me?

[pure copper]

https://discord.com/channels/801609515391778826/1188158256221261854 here now

[upper cove]

I do with me friend simple shell by c to be honest my friend do all work

And little help from me

[pure copper]

it all goes towards getting better

[upper cove]

What is hardest thing you do with c++?

[pure copper]

#pragma once
class Bone
{

    int x = 13;

public:
Bone() {};
~Bone() {};

int GetBone() const
{
    return x;
}

};

#include <iostream>
#include <stdio.h>
#include "Bone.h"

using namespace std;

int main() {
    int a = 0;
    int b = 0;

    cin >> a >> b;
    cout << a + b;
    Bone dogBone;
    a = dogBone.GetBone();
    printf("\nhello\n");
    cout << a;
    return 0;
}

[shy glade]

using namespace std;

use std::

[pure copper]

too many methods

[upper cove]

I want to have voice chat

[shy glade]

well you can do using std::cout; and so on

[upper cove]

But can not now

[pure copper]

just trying to get ide and linker /compiler going for the moment. Dont know where the files are going or coming from

[upper cove]

I think after 3 hour i will can

[shy glade]

fair enough

[pure copper]

Ive never been a fan of cin cout tbbh.

too much like a shell format

ive build and destroyed about 30 projects in the last couple of days, just trying to see what the templates do, and theyve been full of porgram bloat

Ive tried building this from nothing, and its been hours with link error, but i eventually cracked that and and slowly proressing one issue after another with each new line I add

feel like just using my gcc

Well the VC attempt went well again.

a la la la la

9-5 in chat and only 1 hour of conversation

low returns

🫏 👯

[native prism]

That's most inactive place here, I have tried joining and waiting for people

[pure copper]

I didnt even know it was there until a few days ago. I had the whole club group muted from sight

[native prism]

lol

I found a guy though, He was interested in tech and we talked in VC for a while

[pure copper]

Someone to actually talk tech is rare

[native prism]

true

[upper cove]

Join voice chat now

[pure copper]

What a coincidence. I do too see what's happening here and I'm literally watching the same guy

Looking for the god bits

[plush parrot]

no coincidences, just signs from the universe

[pure copper]

🧜‍♀️

[sterile apex]

@pure copper

busy now?

[pure copper]

im hosting the discussion that you have been listening to

[sterile apex]

😔

sorry for disturbing u

i didn't know about it

So sorry

[sterile apex]

@pure copper

well done

and sorry again

and i need ur opinion urgently

🤔

@pure copper

?

I am on interview progress and got a task for c++ project.

but i have some experience in data structure and algorithm and it was long long ago when i took part in ACM ICPC.

So I'm new in multi thread processing in c ++ 17.

the task is following:

There is a big text file that has a lot of lines (you can think of 10s of millions). You need to develop multi-threaded application that reads lines from input file, reverts character in a single line and writes to output file. Size of the line is unknown.

and then I made it.

I have considered the time in file management and made a code block that was thought best optimized in my idea.

#include <iostream>
#include <fstream>
#include <string>
#include <thread>
#include <algorithm>

void reverseAndWriteLines(const std::string& inputFile, const std::string& outputFile) {
std::ifstream inFile(inputFile, std::ios::in | std::ios::binary);
std::ofstream outFile(outputFile, std::ios::out | std::ios::binary);

if (!inFile || !outFile) {
    std::cerr << "Error opening files!" << std::endl;
    return;
}

// Read the whole file into a string
std::string contents((std::istreambuf_iterator<char>(inFile)), std::istreambuf_iterator<char>());
inFile.close();

// Reserve space for the reversed contents assuming similar size
std::string reversedContents;
reversedContents.reserve(contents.size());

// Reverse each line and add it to the reversedContents string
std::string::size_type start = 0;
while (start < contents.size()) {
    auto end = contents.find('\n', start);
    if (end == std::string::npos) {
        end = contents.size();
    }
    std::string line = contents.substr(start, end - start);
    std::reverse(line.begin(), line.end());
    reversedContents += (line + '\n');
    
    start = end + 1;
}

// Write the reversed contents to output file in one go
outFile.write(reversedContents.c_str(), reversedContents.size());
outFile.close();

}

int main() {
const std::string inputFileName = "input.txt";
const std::string outputFileName = "output.txt";

std::thread workerThread(reverseAndWriteLines, inputFileName, outputFileName);
workerThread.join(); // Wait for the worker thread to finish.

std::cout << "Lines reversed and written to " << outputFileName << std::endl;

return 0;

}

i want your opinion for my code.

@pure copper

[pure copper]

I'm literally falling asleep from the debate. I'm not familiar with the thread library. I would just say, if you have to do this for a very large file, and there is or is not an order to which it needs to be reassembled would force you to code your algorithm. From my poor understanding of the task, 1. you have to find 1 line of the file? or you need to find lots of given lines? or you just need to do the whole file? and tfinally do the lines have to be in the same order as they were in the original file?

It looks like you are doing the whole file line by line and reversing each line. I think I would have done the read file as a string also. Im not going to examine the details of the actual line reversal, and how you determine the random sizes, but it looks typical search for EOL char etc.

Just dont get what the thread bit is though? What is this being used for in the solution?

I would have thought you would breeak up the large file and run some parallel processes to do bits to spread the load, and then assemble them in the required order ... Given they would all run for indeterminant times, you would need tos resquence them as they were completed

but im just dreaming now

[sterile apex]

🤔

the only thing i have to do is get all line of input file and then output it like same with original

[pure copper]

remember also if the question is 10s of millions of lines, you may end up with memory issues, swap,segments etc, and that might be a trick question

[sterile apex]

yeah

So i hope your help

[pure copper]

but with each line reversed

[sterile apex]

😆

[pure copper]

🛏️

need to vc really

[sterile apex]

🤗

um..

[sterile apex]

👍

it was perfect answer

[pure copper]

questions are: does it work? did you test it? what are your concerns?

does it meet specification?

[sterile apex]

my code is not fit to the question

i heard your opinion and then i realized i was wrong

🥴

i have to start from scratch

[pure copper]

How off track are you? what should it do and what did you think it was to do?

[sterile apex]

my code was not multi-threading

OMG!!!

it just seems to be multi-threading.

[pure copper]

im glad i was of some help

[sterile apex]

thanks ms Peo

[pure copper]

could you review my dogbone code earlier? lol

[sterile apex]

👍

[sterile apex]

dogbone!!!

lol

[pure copper]

you obviously dont read back on the channel.

[sterile apex]

😭

ok

i'll do it now

[sterile apex]

is this your bone code?

[pure copper]

#include <algorithm>...... That's interesting, an include file for just random algorithms, pick one and program works

[pure copper]

not my most intelligent program ive ever written byut close

bye for now

[sterile apex]

bbai

[prime breach]

Hi , Do anyone know why discord make notification sounds despite of there is no new msgs or anything ?

[potent plover]

it is happening to me also but i don't know why it is happening.

[pure copper]

The names may go into your spam folder

[twin solar]

probably highlights

[prime breach]

whats that ?

[twin solar]

some new features that sends notifications for events and posts

[prime breach]

where do i find this ?

[twin solar]

Click on the server icon, and open the "notifications" option

[prime breach]

thx

[grim iris]

thanks lets talk

[plush parrot]

import AI

[prime breach]

can anyone tell me how can i solve this problem ? my pc’s sound doesnt work

[shy glade]

download sound file

i need one know php language

[prime breach]

how ?

[prime breach]

there is another server have PHP chat

[shy glade]

i think tap to sound icon

[shy glade]

can u send it

[shy glade]

اسمعيني

اضغطي باليمين على هذا الكمبيوتر

[shy glade]

https://youtu.be/H3bhRHu9-tQ?si=1GtWoiIlOYd1gRli

[prime breach]

اه نحلت الحمدلله يسلم ايديك

بس بتضل هيك

[shy glade]

و الصوت يعمل ؟؟

[prime breach]

اه

[shy glade]

جؤبي اعادة تشغيل الكمبيوتر

ر

[prime breach]

حاليا بشتغل عليه

[shy glade]

can u send the link of php group ??

[prime breach]

دخلت على السيرفر؟

[shy glade]

how can i join

[prime breach]

اكتب في البحث اسمه

اكبس هون

[shy glade]

ok ok thnx

[errant slate]

Thx

[rain valve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8fl9SqY0go

[sterile apex]

good morning @pure copper

[pure copper]

How did it go

[sterile apex]

and good afternoon and evening guys

[sterile apex]

👍

I did it

perfectly

[pure copper]

Lots of clone i hope

[sterile apex]

spent all night for it

lol

[sterile apex]

😆

but how did u get up early?

🤐

lol

i was wrong

what time is it now, there?

about 10 A.M?

[plush parrot]

@pure copper what do you think of mojo

[plush parrot]

Did you solve it

[plush parrot]

I'm building a dice simulator and looking for ways to speed up python

Tried numba, but many language features are not supported yet

[dim moth]

Hello

[pure copper]

Build a python to assembler compiler

Binary

[pure copper]

Extend it to be used as a "sic bo" simulator, and then simulate strategies for making it win.

[pure copper]

I think Austin Powers has it.

According to the maker, it's 68000x faster than Python. So that's an improvement if nothing else.

[severe cradle]

Rewrite in C?

[severe cradle]

Profile it, work out which bits are slowing you down and deal to those parts?

[pure copper]

It's only a dice set. If they can't even meet speed requirements for a human, it's way tooooooooo slow. Imagine it trying to ring a doorbell or turning a light on. It would take all day.

[prime breach]

yeah , thx

[shy glade]

Guys my friend have homework and I'm not devops she is also not. we don't have no idea what we should to do ? anyone can urgently help ? today is last time we need to send this project to teacher

#💻｜programming

[pure copper]

I hope you find some help. It sounds like a standard case of 'last night do the project' All I could recommend is that you were shown how to do this in your lectures and lecture notes and have probably done a bit of work on precursor assignments. Have a look at those sources for information. The task is probably quite simple if you refer back to those sources of information, as they will probably focus you on the final assignment you have in front of you (oh... or your friend)

[shy glade]

😄 I'm sarcastic developer I don't know what is those are if you know it can you help me ?

@pure copper

[pure copper]

no idea /sarc

[shy glade]

@pure copper 😦

[shy glade]

Hello all

Nice evening. Isn't it?
At least for me it is cool.

nice weather, good condition.

I hope you guys having a great weekend 😄

[karmic snow]

You can ask to Gemini

[prime breach]

bing ai will be helpful maybe

[tawdry summit]

anyone give me idea how to learn pythen free

[plush parrot]

i consider that sarcarm im looking for quicker ways

[plush parrot]

wdym by sic bo?

[plush parrot]

im having problems with their website, it doesnt let me login to download it

[plush parrot]

thats an option, i tried automated tools like cython but still figuring out how to make it work correctly

[plush parrot]

my program currently does test strategies with a brute force approach thats because i need more speed

numba is a great improvement, but as i said i cant use some python features straightforwardly

[plush parrot]

theres plenty of resources on the internet

@proper junco scam

[proper junco]

Mercii

[plush parrot]

🫡

[pure copper]

For you, For me its still 39

[sterile apex]

🤨

[shy glade]

Lmao

[pure copper]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic_bo

I guess I should have done the kubernetes assignment too., While I'm looking up things on the 'internet'

[shy glade]

39? Insane

[sterile apex]

[shy glade]

[pure copper]

srand(time(NULL));
a= int(rand() % 6) + 1;
printf("\n%d\n", a);
a= int(rand() % 6) + 1;
printf("\n%d\n", a);

[pure copper]

MUST HAVE MORE SPEED

[zealous blade]

hello guys

[pure copper]

hello

[hoary dawn]

Hello

[small ledge]

hello

[sterile apex]

elllo~!~

[plush parrot]

Interesting, that could be a future implementation :]

[plush parrot]

Didn't get the Austin Powers reference tho

[plush parrot]

I guess I should write that as a C extension

[pure copper]

Austin Powers

[plush parrot]

I guess that's me

[plush parrot]

but too much hassle tbh

procedure for creating a C extension with cython is not so straightforward

[plush parrot]

good idea but i guess i cant do much optimization in pure python

[wicked elk]

Hello everyone !

[ebon yacht]

hy man

[honest marsh]

Hello

[sterile apex]

[pure copper]

Hi

[shy glade]

It's very humid

The sky is gray, Feels like gloomy.
Suitable for coding, Isn't it?

haha

It's only been a few weeks, but I already miss potato cakes.

That was delicious....

And on that day, it rained just like today.

[verbal zealot]

the first comment lmao🤣

[shy glade]

yes cuz it has already solved.
It has clear solution.

Did I seem too serious? I wasn't trying to be stiff or anything like that lol.

[sterile apex]

🥴

[pure copper]

Much too serious. You should change your career to HR

[shy glade]

lmao, To express my sense of humor in English, I still lack proficiency.

[pure copper]

Yep

[shy glade]

pretty cool~

[pure copper]

No it's 45 now

[shy glade]

the temperature???

Serious?

[snow badger]

Hello

[pure copper]

Close but not my exact location ofc

[pure copper]

Hi

[shy glade]

Is that a celcious, Wright?

[pure copper]

C

[shy glade]

literally insane

[pure copper]

It's not winter

[snow badger]

How are you

[shy glade]

Get some rest dude

[pure copper]

Just got to keep windows closed

[shy glade]

Turn off the laptop

No more heat

[pure copper]

It's 13:17. Got to get $$$$

No brick laying today

But i do feel the best from the equipment at the end of the day.

[shy glade]

What 1317 mean?

[pure copper]

Didn't we have a talk about 24 hour clock a day ago? 00:00 vs 12:00. In this case it's the time of day at the time of posting.

[shy glade]

lmao. I'm sorry, I just thought that seemed to have some special meaning

[pure copper]

It was very special. That moment will never happen again, at least as far as i know.

[shy glade]

I may have been too nervous.

also agree

Every moment is unique.

[sterile apex]

hi, guys

[plush parrot]

fine, wbu

[pure copper]

Hello @sterile apex

Hello @plush parrot

Sorry i pinged. But hello

[sterile apex]

why are u sorry

lol

how r u? ms peo

it's fine morning!!!

[pure copper]

Doing background reading on everything between my 5 lines of code and the machine. Looks like months or years of reading

[sterile apex]

assembler?

[pure copper]

even lower... ||Binary||

[sterile apex]

🤨

machine language?

how can u understant binary?

[pure copper]

yes.

Well my statement wasnt understanding the ML, rather all the junl inbetween my code and the eventual path through the libraries and runtime systems aetc and drivers that eventualy will lead to the final ML.

But ML would actually be easier to understand than all of this middle ware, that's for sure

[sterile apex]

it could be easier for machine than me

[pure copper]

01011001 01100101 01110011

[sterile apex]

[pure copper]

LOAD @ Pro , R1

[sterile apex]

magic

lol

[pure copper]

I was 15 when I learned to boot my first mini computer using binary coded bootstrap on the front panel using toggle switches. Brrrrr

[sterile apex]

🤓

sounds cool

but i was 15 when i learned making calculate by using c ++.

lol

idk about lower level language

at all

[pure copper]

do it for fun. Its not worth learning now, unless you are going for plcs etc.

[old owl]

Ohh, low level programming

what a lovely topic 😍

[pure copper]

raise a ticket and the mods may be able to help

[plush parrot]

hey peo, what's up

[sterile apex]

[pure copper]

Obviously not me

[shy glade]

back to step 1

🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

[sterile apex]

busy day!!!

[shy glade]

Hey stop

You send it double.

[shy glade]

console.log("Hello World")

print("how are you guys ?")

[shy glade]

Hello wellcom aboard

Hmm,,, is there any way to run, install unix on A13(iphone)

Do not use hyper visor

It seems not lmao

[shy glade]

arp discover with

[plush parrot]

[pure copper]

[plush parrot]

You dangerous

[shy glade]

Hey don't Self promote

@shy glade

This is not the place to do business

Use it for learning

[sterile apex]

[pure copper]

[ebon yacht]

Stonks

[pure copper]

💻

🧹

-B

[plush parrot]

@pure copper is that a rebus?

[pure copper]

broom

[plush parrot]

Room

[plush parrot]

@pure copper Btw I'm making progress with my dice simulator, speed improved enough

[pure copper]

That is good. I'm actually kind of shocked that you are having speed issues with just a dice game.? Is the language actually that slow, that dice can max out the performance to the point that a human could be disturbed?

[plush parrot]

i run 10+ simulations for every combination of parameter to see what returns the best result, its brute force, so that. but earlier version was raw and not optimized, hence the slowdown. now its way faster but without this numba module it would still be kinda slow for my tastes.

speed's not python's selling point

this a snippet of my strategy test function

i guess i can optimize further

mainly in simulation() and in do_bet() which simulation() calls

[sterile apex]

I don't understand what optimization u mean.

Python's selling point is powerful math operation.

It offers better maths operation speed than other language.

I think it's kidding that u mentioned strategy in just a dice game.

[plush parrot]

You sure about that?

[plush parrot]

If you use libraries who rely on C code then yes

But python alone, I don't think so

[plush parrot]

I'm just trying to find the settings that perform better, I know in the long run they always going to fail

[rigid compass]

Talking about dice games, Slice & Dice is a gem, I spent too many hours in that game

[hollow zenith]

So guys I've finished html & css should I start java and java script or python?

[plush parrot]

First thing you must learn is that Java and Javascript are as similar as a Car and a Carpet

Then it depends on what you want to do

Java for android, Javascript for web, Python for AI, ML, data science

Those are general hints

Since you did html and CSS I think it's natural to learn Javascript if you like web development

[shy glade]

https://x.com/hiteshverse/status/1760582669442924877?s=20

Hitesh Kumar (@hiteshverse) on X

I'm facing an unexpected output issue in my code.
I expect [[100, 200, 300, 400], [100, 200, 300], [100, 200, 300]],
but instead, I'm getting
[[100, 200, 300, 400], [100, 200, 300, 400], [100, 200, 300, 400]].
Can anyone help me understand why this is happening?
#java

Twitter · Feb 22, 2024, 8:29 AM

[graceful remnant]

hey guys! Anyone machine learning engineers? DM me
we can talk

[plush parrot]

im pretty sure adding inner three times does not add three copies of the objects, in fact you are just adding three references to the same obejct. so that when you add an element to the first inner list, you are changing the one and only list referenced three times in the outer list

thats how java works, cause its pass by reference

i think you could do outer.add(inner.copy()) instead

[plush parrot]

i wish i was

[pure copper]

Our f...ing business partners threw me an email 5 minutes before knock off time saying they have created a whole new process/interface for sending information to our business effective immediately. Because they don't comply with the law. And we now need to build another system effective immediately to handle their excrement. Log off.

[arctic root]

I'm currently studying ML with audio , but have no exp with it in real projects

[pure copper]

Weekend starts but not going to be happy

[arctic root]

sad

[pure copper]

Mad

[arctic root]

but there shouldnt be tasks for weekends as far as i know

is that common for all companies

if they have sudden change

they make thier workers work on weekends

[pure copper]

For legal reasons i feel we have until Monday to load the data, so there is time on our side. It's not too difficult unless they have stuffed up months of data and we need to load it manually. But they don't ever agree to any digital interface, when the official ones are already in place. They say, we can walk up to the door and give you info on sheets of toilet paper and they meet their legal obligations.

Which is what they are doing

[arctic root]

this terrible

manual stuff

[snow whale]

Hi, I'm a web developer. Nice to meet you, everyone

[pure copper]

The tech can be fixed quickly. We have the skills, but it's the politics that p..ses me of the most. The stupid thing is we are both gov agencies, regulated by another gov agency, and they do this excrement all the time to cover their as..s and mistakes.

[snow whale]

Peo. I'm new here. But you seem you have complex in your business

[pure copper]

Hi cool

Not been this mad for months

If it happened on Monday morning I'd be, ok what's happening, but dump stuff on any one 5 minutes before the weekend starts will suffer the wrath of Thor. (not English hub Thor the Norwegian) but ⛈️THOR🌩️

[snow whale]

Calm down. Everything will be find.

Where are you from?

[plush parrot]

@pure copper here's a cookie to lift your mood 🍪

[sterile apex]

U have to care about your company and your business.

I think all CEOs mustn't have a weekend.

Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, Mon, Tue ....

[pure copper]

Hey this cookie has a beacon in it

Light my world

[pure copper]

One must also look after oneself. If it's not your company or you are only an employee, then loyalty and commitment are just words to get more of you for less expenditure. You are but a consumable of industry, made to provide some benefit until you are used up mentally and then dumped into the refuse. Certainly this is not the mind think of Japan, but it's what its all about. There is a bigger world out there and life is too short to sit behind a desk for 50 years of your life, changing the color of pixels on screens, if you make it that far.

Buy yourself a Corvette, jump in and zigzag to New York, then head on down to Patagonia taking in the sites and cultures and languages. Stick you car on a freighter and jump in with it, bounce over to Cape Town, drive your way up to Europe, spend a few years there, then head on over through mid asia and down to Oz, across the island groups of the South Pacific. Spend about 5-10 years. After doing this head back to the place you want to be and set up your life there and then head out every year or two to keep yourself alive with the spirit of the world.

[snow whale]

I agree with you

[arctic root]

me after working on a project two days straight

but u are totaly right

u must balance ur life , ur work , ur religious stuff , ur family , ur hobbies

[arctic root]

my future plan

[plush parrot]

@pure copper seems like you are burning out 😔 sad

[pure copper]

No Just a hated nemesis in the business world

I'm going to stream a cooking event starting in ~10.50 - 10.75 hours from now, if you want to learn how to make something sweet.

[plush parrot]

that would be awesome

[pure copper]

Trying to learn how to 'program' an event

and find somewhere that can take maybe 20 people without limits

[shy glade]

hello, i'm vodka and now i learn code in html,css and java i hope i can try help u in ur journey. good luck

[mystic onyx]

Hello, coders

#💻｜programming which is your favourite language ?

[shy glade]

dont do anything outside the law

[shy glade]

now all i learn html,css and java

and your

[pure copper]

I'm cooking . Only small bytes will be permitted for tasting

https://discord.gg/enghub?event=1210260168089276487

[worthy ravine]

Js

[worthy ravine]

Html css 🙄 nice bro

[violet shuttle]

Python

[violet shuttle]

It sounds delicious✨ ✨ ✨

[shy glade]

Why the emote??

[worthy ravine]

I don't know

[waxen rain]

Lua 😛

[sterile apex]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-krabby-patty-competitive-eating-contest-eat-burgers-gif-26651562

[teal forum]

Hi

[hollow zenith]

Thank you man I understand now

[arctic root]

c++

[plush parrot]

@proper junco

Looks like im the scammer catcher

[ebon yacht]

Hi guys

[ebon yacht]

☕

[shy glade]

[royal igloo]

That's fantastic language
I am learning this

[lethal glen]

I don't have any...

[shy glade]

Javascript?

[gritty trench]

console.log('Hello World');

[paper needle]

HI WOMEN

[pure copper]

[shy glade]

Yeah

[weak bane]

Hello guys
I want to learn programming.
Could anyone give me advice on how I can start?

[arctic root]

1.pick a language that has many resources some thing like c++ for instance

its not mandatory to start with c++ tho

2.learn the OOP (way to customize ur code)

3. learn data strucutres and alogrithms

4.learn software engineering concepts and clean code

5.learn SOLID and design pattern all that goes under the umberalla of software engineering

6.Databases (breifly if u want to be a frontend)

7.networks (breifly)

8.try different tracks and technologies and pick what u prefere

[surreal beacon]

U forgot the beast OS fundamentals.

[waxen rain]

@Yami that a messy roadmap bro lol

[surreal beacon]

I think they are the basics or the entry level for any techs

[waxen rain]

@weak bane I suggest you try The Odin Project (https://www.theodinproject.com) or freeCodeCamp (https://www.freecodecamp.org/learn) and start by web development which is (IMO) the most pro-active path to become a software developer, it's structured, beginner friendly and most importantly; you're going to build a curriculum that will make you employable. Also keep in mind that teamwork is essential. So don't focus too much working alone, building projects with people will make you highly competitive. And it's a skill soo many young programmers (myself included) failed to identify.

[arctic root]

oh yea i missed it

[arctic root]

everybody should know all these courses before even start thinking about the industry

[waxen rain]

Yeah, I just think you're all over the place and it's so unpractical and overly complicated, he's asked for advice on where to start, you gave him an entire roadmap which is by default, messy. You're mixing concepts, e.g: learning paradigms before data structures.

But hey I don't want to start an argument, I just gave him what is in my experience, a better advice.

[weak bane]

Thank so much. I appreciate it 😊

[arctic root]

yea yea i get u

[arctic root]

watch Adel nasim for c++ and solve some basic problems using c++ on hackerrank thats how i started learning once you are comfortable with the syntax of the language , adel nasim also has oop course u can watch it after c++ intro

[bright glacier]

LaTeX

[waxen rain]

Np man, remember to engage in the community, fCC has a great forum and it's super noob-friendly. https://forum.freecodecamp.org/

[weak bane]

Thank you so much guys 😊

[plush parrot]

hey peo what happened

[shy glade]

anyone have knowledge n8n ?

[plush parrot]

whats that

[severe cradle]

https://n8n.io/

[plush parrot]

thanks @severe cradle its been a few days that i cant recall how to use google

[severe cradle]

Mr. Google is my constant companion.

[severe cradle]

I googled it beacuse I didn't know either. 🙂

[pure copper]

Perhaps a better answer to the question "how do i become a programmer?" is, if you have to ask, it is not for you. ( But for absolute first thought people, read some info on Internet, watch some introductory videos on computing and what is about, and download a development environment for free and start playing around with it in concentration with your videos. Visual studio from Microsoft will be a well supported platform to get you going and running). Read some help from the others here. There are many options.

[pure copper]

Sexism giving the industry a bad name.

[severe cradle]

Query: I found a while back, as in months, a site that, going from old memory now, gave roadmaps, pathways, of how to become various computer-related roles, or maybe specialisations. I think maybe specifying the things you'd need, or even the course types to take to get there.
Can't for the life of me find it again. Have search roadmaps, pathway, plus various keywords. Anyone make enough sense of what I'm saying to recognise a site that might be it, or similar. I want to point a lady at work to it; she expressed an interest in moving to analytics and knowing more about development and AI.

[pure copper]

Someone posted a roadmap as you described in this channel a couple of months ago. I remember because i followed the link and thought it was interesting. It may have been the trigger for your discovery of such asite, or the actual site. Perhaps search through this channel a bit and you may find the exact one.

https://roadmap.sh/roadmaps

[opal dove]

Do everyone use to Ubuntu ?

I have some problem with it?

Lets help me, pls

It doesn't reset server when I save file. I am coding using reactjs

[pallid grove]

dont forget to build your react

[plain warren]

Inv me to the server

[shy glade]

dm please

[mighty robin]

well, i use linux mint xfce, which is absolutely not ubuntu, but it is ubuntu-based, which makes me think it has some similarities

[mighty robin]

i don't think its an issue of your operating system here. check the thing thats responsible for reloading the server/the page after you save the file, if youre using a special vscode addon for this - then check the addon that you're using. If you're using some dependency like a package or something, then make sure youre using it the correct way (google how to use it)

[signal mason]

hi i'm an absolute beginner in NLP and i've come across a problem during an exercice.

i'm supposed to find word's polarity (positive/negative) using SentiWordNet lexicon.

for example :

find polarity of unable

in the lexicon :

pos_score, neg_score, synsetTerm
0, 0.75, unable
0, 0.375, unable
0.125, 0.250, unable

how do i process these information ?

[plush parrot]

Sad

[plain warren]

done

[shy glade]

are you guys having a good day?

i hope you guys are happy

[shy glade]

Oh... I'm sorry.

I don't want to put it lightly, but buck up buddy.

[ocean pendant]

sup guys, can u recommend some universities to apply on ml/data science perofessions?

and some recommendations about sat(2 weeks left)

[strange apex]

Could you tell me this community's name

Or share it to me.I would be appreciate.

[plush parrot]

oh god, that sucks, really sorry 😔

[twin solar]

So random

Amor fati fellas

[plush parrot]

??

[river heron]

Yo hi everyone

[sterile apex]

wh

wb

wah

[waxen rain]

That's not helpful tho, always try to be, don't be discouraging. Besides I don't know what you mean, asking for advice is part of a growing mindset. Cheers 👍

[pure copper]

Agreed. Modified.

[waxen rain]

Visual studio 🙅‍♂️
vscode on linux or macos* 🐧 👍 (tux approves)

[cobalt ridge]

guys

[strange apex]

Ok,thank you

[pearl tapir]

developer are u? where are u from?

[shy glade]

the post delete by admin :))

[supple shard]

huh bros

any one of u react

[plush parrot]

yoda is that you?

[pearl tapir]

???

[pearl tapir]

u know me?

[shy glade]

What about NeoVim? It's incredibly lightweight and more productive in my opinion.
I've been using it for over 1+ year now and I feel way more productive and faster at coding than when I used to code in VSCode.

[shy glade]

- .... . / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . / --. ..- -.-- -.-.--

[pure copper]

Mr Morse i presume

[plush parrot]

by the time you learn vim you could write a new IDE by yourself

[plush parrot]

yes

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-star-wars-learning-gif-14395199

[shy glade]

For real, it's not particularly easy to learn Vim, but it's not hard either. I learned it in about 3 days and I did't take it that seriously, so it can be learned in a shorter period.
If anyone is considering learning Vim, I highly recommend using vimtutor.

[pure copper]

Vimulator. Not the actual vim, but a simulated vim environment environment.

[sterile apex]

[shy glade]

I couldn't say Vim is suitable for general programming.
However, if you learn and use the basics of Vim, it can probably be helpful in your programming life!

[undone pond]

hi

[shy glade]

wellcome aboard

[plush parrot]

Cool thing of vim is that is almost on every Linux system, so it's great for quick edits from the command line

Btw first thing you must learn about vim is how to quit it

[plush parrot]

Vimception

[shy glade]

lmao i agree.
I think every vim tutorials must notice about :wq! or :q! at chapter 1.

and difference between w!q and wq!

[plush parrot]

For real

[plush parrot]

I started with sublime text when I first started coding

Now I mostly use vscode and pycharm

[shy glade]

Hello, everyone

I am looking for US citizen or European

He should know a bit about web development.

[pure copper]

Perhaps that is how i can help in this English hub. I will use my vague interest in all things computing, and my hate for technology, and try to learn something new each week like vim. Then i will publish my English swearing and cursing and cussing as a user friendliness rating system for new developers.

And folks can learn some of the lesser admired words that they will need in their careers

[digital stone]

77888877_95977_12958 has been timed out
Reason: Posting Discord Server Invites

77888877_95977_12958 | 1209171039184093189

[shy glade]

Our education sharing continues

[violet shuttle]

It's so funny how the developers were so annoyed by this question that they added information about quitting on the welcome page🤣

[waxen rain]

haven't tried it, my employer chose vscode as the preferred platform, we work with cloud servers through ssh so I don't really want to go through the struggle of setting up my own environment and I don't think It would go smooth with my pm.

[pure copper]

If an editor is on a machine, then just use it if you like it. That is just personal preference. You would only need to use other stuff provided, if your tool didn't perform an action, such as linking compiling or source code management.

Your only hassle may be installing software on a corporate machine or server if it was not there already, as this can be a security issue.

[plush parrot]

for real 😄

[shy glade]

Yes, it would be difficult to transition from using VSCode to using NeoVim if you have a lot on your plate. If you'd like to try it out, choose a free time of yours and have fun with it. It might be counterintuitive at first, but your comfort will gradually increase while using it, and later it will become second nature. Personally, I can't simply use VSCode now; it would be kind of super slow and unproductive for me because I'm used to keyboard-based typing and selection. I rarely use the mouse, but there is an extension for VSCode that integrates the Vim typing system into it. So, if I were to use VSCode, I'd probably install that extension first.

[shy glade]

Agreed. 💯

[quiet vale]

Any django developer here or one with the knowledge of django?

[cold lagoon]

does anyone here do scratch?

[grand stream]

I use to code in Django some years ago

[pure copper]

I grew up with vi, before the rise of the mouses. I actually paid to buy a dos "super" editor that was just a little better than edit.

[shy glade]

🗿

That's so respectable. ✨

[final verge]

[shy glade]

Hello everyone I want to ask if there is someone here using flutter to help me

[plush parrot]

I'm thinking that may be to keep you deeper in the vim rabbit hole

[waxen rain]

Okay, I will try it just for the lols, although I'm a corporate intern, I don't have free time bro 🥲

[plush parrot]

But I agree it can boost productivity if mastered

[pure copper]

I used to carry a copy of vi on a 1.44mb floppy disk with space for my files. No one can type 1 million characters. Neovim must be at least 10gb these days. Genetically modified humanoids filling terrabytes every few months.

[shy glade]

Bruh! Why did you do that to yourself. 😭
They treat interns like slaves. 🥺

All the best man, hope you'll be accepted after this internship.

[waxen rain]

I used to work in construction until a few months ago, so I'm somewhat used to being treated like a slave, haha. I'm really grateful for my internship though, especially since I don't have a higher education. Thank you, and likewise, good luck with your projects! 😄 I'll give neovim a try.

[waxen rain]

I've never seen a floppy disk in real life xD

[plush parrot]

Cool euphemism for: "look I'm so young!"

[waxen rain]

Or: "You're so old." 👺

[plush parrot]

Right

[sick basalt]

Hello everyone!!

[shy glade]

good morning buddy 😄

[pure copper]

I have troubles convincing some people here I'm older than 26.

Brute force statements are required.

[pure copper]

Youthemism

[shy glade]

lmao

[sterile apex]

[mighty robin]

i remember these despite being the so-called "young adult"

i still have some software on them, well, i dont use it, but i still technically have them lol

[shy glade]

today c++

[shy glade]

Hello Everyone

anyone use gRPC?

dapr? Azure?

[carmine badger]

I need join your Discord

[waxen rain]

I'm not surprised. I also thought you were younger cause of your profile picture and how you engage with the community :P. Do you consider it an advantage or kinda bothering?

[waxen rain]

@shy glade Bro, it took me 3 hours to install neovim with nvchad. Still can't use it though. I'm running Linux Mint with neovim 0.9.4 and nvchad. However, I keep encountering this error: "E5113: Error while calling lua chunk: vim.lua:269:". I've reinstalled everything at least 69 times already, and everything is up to date. I ended up asking for help on Reddit, and they suggested I just install lazyVim. I'm starting to ask myself why did I put myself through this.

[jolly comet]

oh very nice.

What languages do you mainly use?

[shy glade]

Oh, let me share my Neovim configuration with you:
https://github.com/CleverFlare/neovim

I've previously explored NvChad, it was a bad experience with all honesty. NvChad is a large project with many interconnected pieces, causing the whole project to collapse if any tiny bug arises in any of those pieces, which is why you'll easily encounter errors when using it.
Building your own configuration would be a very rewarding process, with full control being the most important aspect of it, as well as personalization, and it's not that hard at all.
First you need to learn Lua, which is a very small programming language. It might take you about two days maximum to have a solid grasp over the language, especially since you're already a programmer.
The next step would be to learn how to configure NeoVim, for that I highly recommand this video by Josean Martinez:
https://youtu.be/vdn_pKJUda8?si=LDPyvlQ5WD_RdXxz

He very well explains the whole process of configuring your environment, along with explaining how NeoVim works in general, beautiful video honestly.

[fervent prairie]

Hi.
I got a Lenovo Thinkpad a few weeks ago. And I moved from the place I bought it before actually using it.
I tried to work with it but all the letters, numbers and punctuation keys are not working at all. They " don't appear on the screen". If you want. But the Windows key is working. Also all the F keys ( F1-F12 ) and maybe other keys.
I brought it to a repairer he told me the only way to repair it is by completely change the keyboard and it's expensive. I think half the price of the computer. He sold me a desktop keyboard. It's suitable when I'm in my room but not when I want to work outside.
Is there a way to repair it by myself?
PS: the OS is Windows 10 pro.

[waxen rain]

Alright, I'll give it a try. If it wasn't for your effort, I would've just dropped it. Still though, I'm struggling to see the benefits over vscode xD. If I have to watch a +1 hour tutorial on how to get things started, I don't even want to think about installing plugins. Bonus fact: Lua was actually my first language. During high school, I enrolled in a programming summer course, and they taught us how to make roblox games xD. It was either that or robotics with Python. When I saw "Make your own game," I went for it.

[shy glade]

I suggest u guys, use Zed hha

Does anyone use dapr?

[pure copper]

Many in discord would rather treat speaking with someone over the age of 25 like General order 7 (prohibited under penalty of death). Knowledge is old and outdated. They would rather struggle with all their effort and get nowhere than accept what is really there in plain sight.

The pfp is but a menagerie, an illusion that allows one to live and be happy and work with others on an equal platform. To be seen for the mind that one expects to see. It is the way of time that knowledge is best consumed when perceived to be fed from the vision of youth.

The world of the Internet is led by beauty and influencers. The world has potentially destroyed itself and knowledge is slowly fading away, perhaps into a virtual world, or perhaps into the dust of the universe. Cling on to what you can. Every person counts. Knowledge is absolute. Beauty is in the mind.

[pure copper]

.

[pure copper]

Hey, that's you

[pure copper]

Sometimes it's simpler to rewrite the program yourself from scratch.

[pure copper]

I can't give the answer (can't remember what i did), but it happened to me many years ago. Brand new machine. But it was due to the windows settings for the kb. It really sounds like the same problem. Do some searches on kb country. US vs UK and keys not working. Check the kb language in bottom right on status bar. Use US to start with and see what happens.

Also check that you have set up the language and region settings in Windows. This may help align the kb to your language which may also be influencing the missing keys.

You can also try starting Windows in safe mode and see if it works then. It will use basic kb driver. If it fits work, then you will know it's a settings issue.

Also go to lenovo website and check for kb issues and also consider downloading the kb driver again if nothing above works.

Finally call lenovo support and tell them it's brand new and not working. Even though you do not live where you bought it from, warranty should still cover the computer.

[pure copper]

Seriously, if you can edit a program in an editor now, and vim no va, then don't waste your time. Only a badge of honor knowing you can use it or do use it, but not worth fighting an installation error in Linux if you are not a level 12 guru.

Come on flare. What's the typing

Flare?

[shy glade]

That's great! You're half way there then.
And there lots of benefits for using Vim:

1. Efficient typing system: In VSCode you'll have to either use the mouse or the arrow keys to move around and type things, in Vim, things are different, it has a typing system that mainly focuses on the keyboard and on the most accessible keys for your hands, through various combinations, you'll be able to do everything you normally do with VSCode and a lot more.
2. Lightweight: Vim and NeoVim are incredibly lightweight, they mainly run on the terminal, so no more blotted editors on your machine, just quickly open up your terminal, start NeoVim, and start editing right away!
3. Customizability: Vim is extremely customizable, and with NeoVim you've got an even better customizability. If there is anything you don't like in your editor, no worries, edit the editor itself! 💀
4. Productivity: Productivity in NeoVim is taken to the extreme, you have hundreds of thousands of high quality plugins that you can integrate with the editor, turning the development experience into a heaven.
5. Vim is cool: You'll be able to brag about your special abilities to use an editor that terrifies over half of earth population. 😂

Here are some videos that might offer some more insights:
https://youtube.com/shorts/qFnVZtvylIU?si=iRnOW-tOc10IT9-I
https://youtu.be/-txKSRn0qeA?si=gN1P6fgvOvBvB7MP
https://youtu.be/JeYSttRZKmA?si=MYqXRWrCFGzIONub
https://youtu.be/XfJBvgnCeBk?si=7EB8H7XICLl21rXa

[shy glade]

Yes, it's me. 😁

[shy glade]

Yep?

[pure copper]

No wonder you took 30 minutes to type this

[shy glade]

Just wanted to highlight the benefits of using Vim. 😅
I'm a big fan of efficient use of computers, that's also why I'm a Linux enthusiast (Also 'cause Linux is just 582463947x better than Windows). I like tools that are based on the terminal 'cause they usually offer a fast and smooth experience.

[pure copper]

Shhh I'm watching all the exciting vim videos you posted and all the you tube suggestions that follow for car crashes.

I run my Astroids game in dos 2 on my current machine and it's blown up my 4 ships in . 01 nseconds and exited.

[shy glade]

You're using Dos!? 💀

[pure copper]

I use Linux. But dos is better than the windows

[shy glade]

That's cosmically true. 💯

[pure copper]

Actually i try and use nothing

Transcendentally working

[shy glade]

Yeah, transcendentally. 😂
Still better than using Windows though. 😂

[plush parrot]

nothing is something worth doing

btw its interesting you define yourself as luddite while being so invested in tech and code

[plush parrot]

for me you're a geeky asian girl

@harsh kite @shy glade

[vagrant aurora]

I have a question, How do you use Word or Exel in Linux, You can use Libre Office for such work but is it better than MS Office?

I am looking forward to installing Kali Linux as my default OS on my laptop but not sure yet if it's a good idea.

[pure copper]

I use libreoffice, v as it does enough for me. Its weird is fine. The equivalent Excel is a little less functional and that drives me crazy, but i won't spend money on ms. I use an old version of excel from disk when i really wanted to use excel. Or i use ms at work as that's standard there. But libre is very nice for no cost.

And it can save or read in word/excel format.

[shy glade]

DOS?

I still have a shitbox running DOS and windows 3.1 still kicking and alive somehow

[shy glade]

python, im not so good on the c++

[thorn jasper]

I used to use Libre Office and it's good enough for average tasks but may lack some advanced functions that are present in MS Office

[thorn jasper]

Hey aren't you learning c++ rn? That would be fun if we did that together, right?

[shy glade]

It is very exciting to share different topics every day.

[shy glade]

sure, but mostly im learning by myself

[pure copper]

Compared to your 386 or 486 it probably was shit house, with speeds of 1, 2 mhz or 4mhz. But now that we are into the hundreds of ghz, those old machines are running the software hundreds of times faster than now. 🙅‍♀️

full accounting for the business with only 4k of memory and cassette tape for storage. oh and no wires.

[pulsar folio]

Hello beings of the highest light

What is more important in programming: theory or practice?

what if there is 50% practice and 50% theory?

[plush parrot]

@pulsar folio i would say 75% practice

[pulsar folio]

what if I learned how the function works and then use it in practice?

Don't theory and practice go hand in hand?

[plush parrot]

That's how you do it, but practice plays a bigger role in understanding how things actually work

And most of all in learning the art of debugging

[shy glade]

%90 practice

[plush parrot]

Which is what a programmer does most of the time

[shy glade]

practice each topic you learn many times and write differently.
and reinforce each topic you learn with the previous topic

[plush parrot]

You can't learn how to debug on textbooks

[shy glade]

but you can learn by yourself

[plush parrot]

Yes that's what I meant

By working on real projects

Where real bugs arise all the time

[shy glade]

I had a project by python in 30 days on github.
At the end of the section, we develop 6 different projects, all under the classroom: bank application, car rental, notepad. vs vs

[plush parrot]

Wdym translate python?

[shy glade]

fixed

[viscid raft]

%90 theory

[pulsar folio]

in fact, I also think that practice is more important than theories.

practice doesn't mean you start from scratch. But it depends on the situation, for example, you don't have to learn how to walk.

If I study something well but don't practice it enough, I won't be able to understand it. Practice is also good because it allows you to create new connections, create your own theory, or improve this idea.

[viscid raft]

you can just improve and create a new theory by thinking about it

[pulsar folio]

I don't think this works in programming.

In programming, you mostly write rather than create theories. This is a practice that helps create new connections and new moves.

[pulsar folio]

I think it depends on the situation.

[viscid raft]

to write you need to know the theory

[pulsar folio]

practice does not mean starting something over with a new leaf.

I can copy the code and try to run it. if it works, then I will play with this code, I'll try to create a different way of writing code.It also gives me an understanding of how the code works.

However, I didn’t learn anything.

In programming I think theory is important, but most of the understanding comes from practice.

[tough sluice]

https://tenor.com/bffte.gif

[pure copper]

Hi Expectations: It either works first time, or the project gets dumped.

[pure copper]

Breakpoint Byte 0

[mental obsidian]

Hi folks! I'm a devops engineer trying to migrate from it to backend developer, any recommendations?

[pure copper]

What are you doing as a devop?

[mental obsidian]

Basically automating ci CD pipelines using Jenkins, Kubernetes and aws as cloud provider. I really like micro services.

[pulsar folio]

hello, hru?

[pure copper]

Thats an interesting foundation and background. There are going to be some specialists here would can give you a basic path towards the backend work. unfortunately thats not me, as I dont understand enough of the overlap.

@mental obsidian

Are you familiar with databases and data design yet?

Thats about as far away from deployment as I can get

[waxen rain]

okay, I'll make some time this weekend to give it a try, thanks for everything flare, god bless!

[pure copper]

For years I have always said programming is basically memory, I/O, loops and if then else. Being a little more in depth, for this I would have to say its also about a large part these days about OO fundamentals and knowing your libraries. Well its been about knowing the libraries for a long time. OO fundamentals (Theory) is necessary for knowing how objects are built and hang together. But then a lot of using them is filling in the gaps to customize an object to meet ones purpose, so that is the practical. Working with libraries and knowing what is available only sticks in the mind with use. Using the languages just reinforces the understanding of the theory. You need the theory to understand the syntax and semantics, but once you start working, that becomes ingrained in the mind, and the biggest challenge nowadays is trying not to reinvent the wheel, so knowing what is already there is very important.

If you manage to work on large systems built over many years, you will see the varied standards and multiple ways things are done as individual programmers applied their own standards, or standards changed or teams did their own things under lack of standardization. APIs with multiple functions doing almost exactly the same thing but also not because someone didnt realize there was something in place already. Code is al over the place. Databases are built with all sorts of weird keys and different standards for keying info. poor normalization and just really difficult stuff to work with leading to the next gen of workers, adding whole new sets of tables and views to understand from a new base point that they can understand and work from.

Practice and working with others and learning the standards of an organization cant really be learned from university, and while it is theory, once you get the hang of what is required, the rest is practical implementation. I'm going for a 20% theory 80% practical on this.

@pulsar folio

Delete your question do you? "What do you think is more important in programming - practice or studying theories?"

[waxen rain]

When was the last time you left the cave?

[pure copper]

rrrraaarrrr

[waxen rain]

@uncut fog Do you remember?

[pure copper]

0+0=0 0+1 = 1, 1+1=0

[waxen rain]

back in the spring

[pure copper]

of 69

[waxen rain]

every morning birds would sing

[pure copper]

woodstock

[waxen rain]

Do you remember
Those special times?

[pure copper]

hehe ha ha where life is great and simple

[waxen rain]

@pure copper You failed the test...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeiFF0gvqcc

[pure copper]

wasn't a fan

[waxen rain]

(After ChatGPT)
Alright everyone, I'm heading out! Have a great time, enjoy yourselves responsibly, and make memories worth cherishing. It's Friday!

[pure copper]

Bye

[waxen rain]

(Before ChatGPT)
Alright guys, I'm out! Go out, get wasted! get laid! take acid and run naked on the beach! it's friday!

[pure copper]

oh that prudish gpt

Only in America

[mental obsidian]

Oh no problem, thanks for your support Peo. So I know the basics in Mysql and Mongodb.

[pure copper]

A big part of a system is data storage, so building your skills in those will go a long way to building your backends and interfacing with other systems

[plush parrot]

@pulsar folio also this

[mental obsidian]

Good advice, thank you Peo.

[plush parrot]

I don't get it

[pure copper]

Most o fmy resolving problems always occurred about 4am when I would literally dream of the answer. The subconcious is a big player when problems are tough

[plush parrot]

Good philosophy, would surely decrease frustration

[pure copper]

debugging from the start and stepping all the way to the issue(s)

[plush parrot]

I honestly I'm old school when it comes to debugging, good old print statements

For not big projects they are quick and effective

[pure copper]

oh ive done that many times

for places and tools /languages that had no debugger

then forgetting to turn off the boolean, putting it into production and letting the log file build in a 400+ person org

Speaking of log files: (no we weren't) A story from my archives..... Once upon a time, I was managing the code and the system for a small airline at our city airport. One day I got called in early in the morning as the system had died. After some reasonably quick investigations, it turned out the system disk filled up and of course nothing could be written so all the op sys failed. Over the weeks prior to the crash, there was a system log that captured all the dump messages and warnings etc. One warning was "System Disk near capacity". It popped up as weekly messages then daily intervals then hourly then .... The timestamps showed the message being dumped into the log at an exponential rate in the final minutes and seconds before it died. It killed itself with its own warnings.

[plush parrot]

LOL

At least can't be said it didn't get warned

[cold kestrel]

hello

every one

may I join it?

[pure copper]

Sure, its not a closed society. Join in and natter with everyone. We are all happy little computer people.

maybe not me from what I appear to write

little?, happy? computer? human?

[thick canyon]

Hi developers

[pure copper]

Ive got to buy one of those black uniforms with the hoodie

hi md

[thick canyon]

As a developer who has NPM packages public

[thick canyon]

Hi peo

[pure copper]

im not pro. pro is pro. im peo

💃

[thick canyon]

😄😄😄

[thick canyon]

Nice dance 🩰

[mental obsidian]

@pure copper you have an impressive level of English. Could you share with us some techniques to learn or practice English?

[pure copper]

Well as a person who has tried other languages, I think the best ting to do is go and live in a English speaking country. Then you are forced to speak, read, hear and write every day. Otherwise getting in here and speaking in the voice chats is going to help you improve your listening and spekaing skills, and reading books and text will help with your writing reading and comprehension. Generally just keep using it and it will get better. Have a dictionary at hand always to look up new words when you hear them (be that a little pocket book or online on your phone)

[mental obsidian]

That's good. Thanks a lot.

[pure copper]

As a computer person, reading the manuals and webpages on all things computing will build your specialized knowledge.

A tech dictionary will of course help, but manuals are almost self defining

[thick canyon]

@pure copper how many programming languages do you know and what kind of developer are you?

[pure copper]

I don't program professionally anymore. I design and write specifications and project manage. I code for fun occasionally now using C, VB, and am currently refreshing C++ and probably something else obvious but cant think. When I was programming professionally I probably had used over 20 languages when I gave up. I do work in Oracle if its anything 'programming' like at my main role/business now.

[pure copper]

detailed design

hi tech imaging

[noble verge]

hi Peo

[pure copper]

Hi David

Mmmm anyone seen Tech Imaging around lately?

[shy glade]

This one?

[pure copper]

Another useless joke in English hub. Everyone was saying Hi

[shy glade]

lmao

"hi"tech

[craggy vortex]

print("hello world")

[pure copper]

[shy glade]

[pure copper]

🛏️

[shy glade]

[plush parrot]

That will give you the skills to hack nasa 100%

[shy glade]

Who doesn't love HTML ahahaha?

[shy glade]

What does this emoji imply? Or when do you use it?

[shy glade]

im searching for someone who is willing to study data structures and algorithms everyday

[shy glade]

don't know, just because I sipped a coffee

[pure copper]

Since it appeared, I'm interpreting it as 'I am casually observing what's happening, but I'm not getting involved. Just letting you know I'm here though'.

[shy glade]

Yeah~ that makes sense

[pure copper]

Hey Nitya, I'm willing to 'TRY' and help, but In this channel would be better for me,. Also if I'm not understanding, others here could also potentially help. But Data structures sounds like fun. Algorithms to make a cake are #1, but then also quark trajectories could also be intriguing. What's up to start with?

Where are you at in your career?

[shy glade]

https://developerxpe.github.io/

I created a portfolio website with react. How is it ?

[shy glade]

@pure copper I completed task we got 90 ( a++ grade )

[shy glade]

pretty good
which hosting site did u use?

that seems made from github

you need a site to host it?

[shy glade]

im in my sophomore year of computer science engineering

[shy glade]

Come on guys, run the code and let's know the result.

[shy glade]

Makes sense.

[shy glade]

Yes i use GitHub. I build my website and GitHub is hosting my website

[shy glade]

I made this website with react

[waxen rain]

why did u use react?

[pure mural]

no

[shy glade]

Why not ?

[pure copper]

@bronze flame this is where we chat on stuff. Welcome

[bronze flame]

yes thats just an introduction on my part.

[shy glade]

sample math operations with python

import math

class MathOperations:
    def __init__(self):
        pass
    def trigonometry(self, angle, type="degree"):
        if type.lower() == "degree":
            angle = math.radians(angle)
        sin_angle = math.sin(angle)
        cos_angle = math.cos(angle)
        tan_angle = math.tan(angle)
        return {"sin": sin_angle, "cos": cos_angle, "tan": tan_angle}

    def analytic_geometry(self, x1, y1, x2, y2):
        distance = math.sqrt((x2 - x1) ** 2 + (y2 - y1) ** 2)
        slope = (y2 - y1) / (x2 - x1)
        return {"distance": distance, "slope": slope}


math_ops = MathOperations()

if __name__ == "__main__":
    print("Trigonometry      : ", math_ops.trigonometry(45))
    print("Analytic Geometry : ", math_ops.analytic_geometry(1, 2, 4, 6))

[weary python]

that good. but the image is not redered properly

[pure copper]

These days software testing gets a very small percentage of the project time. It all starts from the requirements. Many system requirements documents have broad vague requirements eg enter supplier invoices. But they provide no further detail, such as styles of invoices, quantities/day, or if they need them broken down by line item or just a total value.

The development team doesn't really go out and speak to the end users, and usually if it's a contracted development team, their aim is to provide the simplest system than requires the least amount of programming, so they don't want details. They will just provide a form that inputs supplier name and invoice value.

As a tester you will then be asked to test the system, perhaps along side the end users.

You create a set of use cases. Typically that is all testing plans want in them these days. No details. Just a high level statement of use. They development team want to see the user cases and test plan, so they can ensure the program meets the functionality of the test plan. So when you test it, it does what you're plan will be checking. (But all hell break loose if you go off the test plan and try to say it's not working, cause the plan is the new gospel based on the wishy washy requirements.
One of the use cases then, is, 'enter invoice.' They end user will try and enter an invoice and immediately see the line items can't be entered and tell you it's a fail. The developers will tell you it's a pass, as it enters an invoice. You and the project are in a bind. You cannot complain it's not fit for purpose as you did not give any real details for the build. But it also doesn't give the end user what they really need.

Going a little further behind this obvious standard test disaster scenario, is that the detail in the requirements, guess s long way towards getting a system that the end users need.

Data flows, data dictionaries a detailed e-r diagram, full sets of input and output documents, rules and formulae, with give you a good system.

In the oven days test trans would hit everything on the form. Ensuring only numbers went into numeric fields, ranges if values couldn't be broken in each field, text fields were large enough and also not open ended. Then every elected complain of data was checked, if one value is X then another can't be Y etc. The output of numbers was checked for rounding errors cause even using a float4 for currency can still cause hidden rounding issues in basic addition.

Develop matrices of the data combinations and try them all. My colleague and i are old school. Even a stupid looking 2 form program with a few fields and a couple of buttons can run up to 200+ test cases for us. And that's only the known functionality. With web systems, they are constantly breaking between the client and server, and those types of errors are not even looked at in test plans.

A good test regime starts with a good requirement specification, then a good team of hardened experienced programmers and systems people who know that there are plenty of " if then elsif elsif elsif ... " Hidden under a cover just waiting to be broken.

Specifications tendered as functional requirements are much more likely to succeed than a set of simple business requirements. To reach functional, much of the firework with the end user will need to have been completed.

I would recommend looking at government procurement websites for tenders to build systems. You can usually down load the full tender packages including specifications etc. Read through these and look at what is asked for in these. Compare them to others. Start to look at one that offers high level requirements and those that give low level details. This will let you as a lowly intern or junior programmer, or even senior programmer for that matter to get immersed into the area that gives you your daily work, but you may never know the source. As a tester, it's always a guilt trip that you didn't pass a test. But push that back to your project to sort out. And don't let them say, "oh it doesn't say in the spec that numeric fields can't have as alpha characters and we are not going to fix that". (Please note that most issues between the test team and Dev teams occur with outside / contracted developers and the client acceptance testers". System testing within the Dev team is only as good as the boss wants you to be, given their directions of 'to the spec' is king.)

[lavish basin]

here is a great roadmap for a QA Engineer, but it goes far beyond the beginner level:
https://roadmap.sh/qa

you can ignore majority of it if you are not planning to do more technical stuff like automated testing - which will require you to learn programming

[narrow otter]

hi my friends , iam a beginer and i need a react cours , is there someone on youtub you can recomend me to watch ,

[untold bridge]

Hi 👋 , i'm need course for the computer vision
Also need course for nlp .
Can any one advise me YouTube channel to watch

[solar oriole]

Hi guys, nice to meet you, can I found just for practicing English a programming or related course in this server?

[tall verge]

Hmm interesting

How well did you complete the language?

Oh Just beginning

But sure u know how to make website with css and html ahhaha

And JavaScript

Whyyy html is nothing without css and js

Just text dude

HTML

You seem angry at this moment

Can i ask why

Good

But they most important part of web developing

U cant say that

Are you angry with me?

😭