💻｜programming

[pure copper]

I'm thinking of replacing my cpu cooling fan. Anyone have any latest fan model suggestions.

Btw, that fan just cools the motor of the actual fan.

[severe cradle]

I got cool ones for my raspberry pis - Blue LEDs - the only way to go.

[pure copper]

I will look into it

[pure copper]

Blue is cooler i assume.

Icy

[severe cradle]

Way cooler (hee hee)

[severe cradle]

Don't rub it in. Some of us remember the green and amber screens.

[pure copper]

Why am i holding pencil upside down?

[pure copper]

Oooh fancy. At least you had colour.

👵

[severe cradle]

My computer was worse than your computer - thanks, but not going there.

[pure copper]

Let's...

Spill the spec, or name

[severe cradle]

I would like you to know that you are chatting with someone skilled in DEC pdp8, Intel 8080 and 8085 assembler.
Skilled at inputting the boot loader via the bit switched on the front panel.

I withdraw my entry. (Quietly moves off the platform stage)

[pure copper]

🧜‍♀️

I was a pdp person also

Did you read that "boot program from front panel" from one of my earlier posts?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MWoQW-b6Ph8&pp=ygUaQmFyYmFyYSBTdGVwaGFuJ3MgbWVtb3JpZXM%3D

[severe cradle]

Nope. but I have even greater respect for you now.

[pure copper]

Same for you Mr PDP8

[shy glade]

Hi, is there anyone here have experience in AI, especially cleaning and splitting datasets for train and testing set

[pure copper]

Every system has a particular set of rules and conditions applied to data entered into it. If you know what your AI (program) needs to be fed, then preparing a healthy meal for testing should just be a matter of generating that good data, and throwing in lots of 'fibre' (bad data) to test that the system can digest it without killing it (crashing). Check its exception handlers.

PS don't use AI to generate test data for another AI.

Use RI

Then you know what is expected

[restive dawn]

ayo any web dev here

[trail sun]

wow we have here a programming club 🙂

[pure copper]

Yes indeed. I only ask that you dont use pointers to questions. Just state the question. (eg can I ask a question? or Any web developers here?)

Are pointer-less questions, pointless questions?

[pearl folio]

how to become a web developer.

[severe cradle]

.

[pure copper]

Get in front of a computer with the manuals and start coding. Start at the beginning, and slowly learn the language you choose. Study hard and enjoy your self. Eat your greens also.

There are plenty of references online

[severe cradle]

While Peo's advice is good, as it always is, I'd add; (just in case you have not already done this part) look at some sites or examples you know that truly inspire you. That is; get really motivated about the amazing sites you want to make, be that amazing graphics, or sophisticated layouts or animated user experiences or elegant back-ends. Be motivated on why.
Look as templates and examples and tutorials: see what works and why.
Also look for mistakes; there are lots of courses and experts out there who will give you ideas about what has been tried and does not work; that is avoid pitfalls.
js and such: know how to do it.
Motivation: Know why
Add creativity and stir until done.
.
But especially eat your greens. web development can be so addictive, all consuming. Remember to eat and hydrate.

[low marsh]

hi im a cs student. and my finals are just around the corner. Im currently having a hard time to understand operating system. Do anyone has tips on study operating system

[severe cradle]

What is in a course on Os'es? File systems? commands, kernals? What sort of thing?

[low marsh]

Device driver
process management
memory management
virtual mmry management
IO management
protection and security

These are all topics that will be in final

[severe cradle]

So you learn how common os'es do these things?

[low marsh]

yea i know some of the os basic, i guess

but im quite confuse on how os do those things

hmm

[sweet hornet]

As a beginner ,what are some algorithm that I should must learn apart form searching and sorting?

[severe cradle]

Optimisation: greedy
Coding: Huffman & such
Hashing
I guess some of the structures like trees imply algorithms for various traversals, balancing and such.
Gradient descent (or stochastic descent)
Dijkstra’s Algorithm - path finding
Bellman's theorem (Aka Viterbi decoding) probably has other names in different fields.
I guess design patterns if you include that in "Algorithms".

[sweet hornet]

Thank u , it means a lot

[severe cradle]

Well compare with answers from any others. Consensus is good.

[sweet hornet]

Yup , u r right, waiting for other's response

[severe cradle]

Peo's an expert. Have my list improved.

[sweet hornet]

Oh cool, I'm waiting for Peo's response

[pure copper]

Maybe tree structures with pointers or alternates, array maniipulation, recursion, stack manipulation, dynamic storage, tree sorts, insert sorts, merge sorts, tree searching, file io using fixed length records and csv. For a second wave, pull in a DB system API and learn the basics of SQL, and CRUD with DB records through a programming language.

Oh and string manipulation, is essential, cutting and chopping and searchin through strings.

[sweet hornet]

OMG, that's a heck of a list, lol

[sweet hornet]

I'm learning Python,So I hope I can learn these ASAP

[severe cradle]

Having options is good.
Note: Peo added some from searching and sorting, in case you'd missed some types.
Another thought. Google a few and start with one that looks good ans has a lot of Google hits (eg popular).

[sweet hornet]

By popular Google hits, u mean the search results which come on top , right?(not ads obviously)

[pure copper]

These days everything is online. The sorts and searching are all just standard libraries. You only really need to know how to do this stuff if you are without internet on a desert island and need to build a comms system to get rescued. kind of sad but its a reailty. Knowing some basic file I/O is always essential, as is memory manipulation, which you will need to customize for yourself. Any scientific algorithms etc will depend on formulae you have for your problem, and these are the fun little loops etc that you need to do for yourself.

[pure copper]

Oh and an algorithm to remove scum from the start of a sorted Google data stream.

[sweet hornet]

Absolutely right, Couldn't agree more

[shy glade]

hi, is someone know NodeJS fundamental?

[sweet hornet]

Oh cool,how can I implement that in my laptop? , is there any extension or smth for that?

[pure copper]

100000 member know nodejs. perhaps the next question should be what concerns you. Shy Fish, and someone may answer the realy question you have.

[pure copper]

That's left for the diligent student.

[sweet hornet]

Okay

[severe cradle]

Nice example. I guess I'd see this as part of parsing things, which is good to do as a learning experience, even if you often have a library in practice. To be familiar with regular expressions, or having written something to parse csv, or xml, or map coordinates from Google or similar gives an appreciation of how these things work, and maybe also what's needed to do them efficiently (either latency or memory).
Builds on all those string manipulations Peo suggested.
.
I guess my suggestion of such as "gradient descent" is for those with a more mathematical bent, but looking at optimisation, including path-finding or similar is good to know how they work. These are general approaches rather than "depend on formulae you have for your problem" as Peo points out for some of the details.
.
I rather enjoyed an exercise to implement an inode-based file system as Linux has used. It's an good example of tree manipulation.
.
I do still think it's worth knowing how libraries work for oyu. Sometimes you have choices and one will work way better than another, eg memory use or faster, or affected by biases in the data used in your situation.

[trail sun]

what do you wanna start in web developpement

because there is to parts you can learn both of them actually but you is way better to choose one of them to start

there is fornt end and backend:

[pure copper]

Don't forget web communication can be back end at both ends

[trail sun]

the front end is every thing the user can see (and some things he can't) but this is the main definition

like buttons colors...

[trail sun]

what is it ,

and i need the streaming roole

[pure copper]

A lot of systems talk to each other, and not to people. The interfaces are just as numerous and important, but are not seen so are often overlooked when starting out.

[sterile apex]

Hi @keen breach

[shy glade]

hey LOL Lmao hey

if u cant do this ur not real programmer

[sterile apex]

Hello

nice to meet u

~||~hey LOL Lmao hey||~~

[pure copper]

hi Prometheus

[sterile apex]

hi peo

japanese?

are u japanese?

[pure copper]

No. Why would you think that?

[sterile apex]

M.. u looks like a cute japanese girl.

if ur avatar is your image...

[pure copper]

Some day that, infact many do. But not that cute tbo

[sterile apex]

lying

name is kenji anderson

from los angeles

developer

wbu?

@pure copper

[pure copper]

Well back to the programming challenge

Oh it's finished

[sterile apex]

haha

i wanna relax

i joined this server for relaxing between works.

[shy glade]

bro im tired

im not gonna follow

coding ever again

[pure copper]

I've been on holiday for 6 weeks. Back to work in 7 hours

[shy glade]

im becoming salesman

sorry for

demotivation

[sterile apex]

wow~ holiday is good

bro?

[pure copper]

Back to work to relax

[sterile apex]

@uncut fog is bro?

[sterile apex]

lol

[pure copper]

Take your pick.

[sterile apex]

@uncut fog 👍

second

[pure copper]

I'm on stage during the week. Join in the classes if you need confirmations.

[sterile apex]

@pure copper is disguised men?

i don't need any classes.

sorry about that.

because i live in america

so i'm learning more and more constantly.

[pure copper]

Sorry about that.

[sterile apex]

don't worry

[pure copper]

Just send a coded message here if you need extraction.

🚁

[sterile apex]

lol

yeah

i got it

may i dm u @pure copper ?

[pure copper]

I ignore dms
Too many people want to marry me. I only hang around server.

[sterile apex]

haha? why?

marry?

[pure copper]

🙅‍♀️

[sterile apex]

online marriage?

😆

i hate online date.

[pure copper]

Probably for the same reason you started talking to me

[sterile apex]

No, u're missed

[pure copper]

Well that's a lie. I replied to your hello everyone

[sterile apex]

M.. i was only excited in a cute girl developer.

[pure copper]

I thought you were a spaceship carrying a new breed of alien

[sterile apex]

almost same with that

i am bit eccentric .

[pure copper]

I have to think of a set of rules to drive a long range scanner on a rewrite of a 1970s star Trek game

[sterile apex]

Star Trek game?

[pure copper]

I'm going to make it event driven with a timer driving the timeslot progression

[sterile apex]

I haven't heard about Star Trek game.

could give me details of the game?

[pure copper]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_(1971_video_game)#Super_Star_Trek

I did this decades ago also. Time for a rewrite

[sterile apex]

ic

got it

[pure copper]

Omg, I'm so stupid. It wasn't just this game. It was a super multiplayer version. How could i forget my legacy to a generation. Brain holes. I better go to sleep.

[sterile apex]

🤗

So, your role in ur company is game developer?

expecially strategy game?

[pure copper]

I own my company. I don't develop for my company.

[sterile apex]

for what?

[pure copper]

I do and i don't

[sterile apex]

😁

[pure copper]

For what what?

[sterile apex]

why do u develop?

[pure copper]

Once it's in the veins, it will always be there

[sterile apex]

🤨

M..

when i was a student, i wanted to be a game develper but now...

lol

destiny is destiny.

[pure copper]

Sales? Or was that Andy?

[sterile apex]

No, fullstack-developer...

😭

i took part in acm icpc 2014

[pure copper]

There is a computer life outside of fullstack

[sterile apex]

I agree with u

but there isn't any chance shows my ability completly within my current job.

easily but time consumming tasks~~~!!!

OMG~!~!~!

[pure copper]

It's easier to get another job if you have one already. Best time to change is while you are employed.

[sterile apex]

do u think so?

i'm trying to change myself.

[pure copper]

Definitely. When you attend interviews you will be a lot more relaxed as, you know you will will have a job the next day if you don't get the one being interviewed for. It's a subtle mental state that just works to your advantage.

[sterile apex]

thanks for ur opinion.

but game development is new field for me.

So i need a chance to experience about it.

[pure copper]

Go where there are jobs. If they pay you to write code for games then go ahead. If they pay you to write rocket drivers, then do that. Just as long as you find it interesting.

[sterile apex]

C# or Unity is not difficult for me...

yeah

gocha

arigadou @pure copper

[pure copper]

Don't be afraid to apply for a job when it has a language you don't use. Just let them know you pick up languages quickly and they are all basically the same thing.

[sterile apex]

I knew it

[pure copper]

Tell them about your ability to see the solution

[sterile apex]

👍

[sterile apex]

Yūekina iken o arigatō

[pure copper]

Dozo

[sterile apex]

cool girl!~

exceed my expectation

[pure copper]

Well sleep time

[sterile apex]

what's ur timeline?

[pure copper]

🧜‍♀️

[sterile apex]

oh~!~

is there night now?

I'm sorry

[pure copper]

Utc+8

[sterile apex]

Aha..

u're a chinese

hongkong?

or singapore

maybe something more

[pure copper]

Gn

[sterile apex]

goon night

nice talking to u

[pure copper]

I forgot daylight saving

Try tokyo

[sterile apex]

😆

M??

i graduated from osaka university

I'm japanese too

[pure copper]

🧜‍♀️

[sterile apex]

a disguised man?

lol

have pleasant dreams

[pure copper]

this will be me in a few hours. bye

[sterile apex]

😆

may i would be ur alarm?

without clapping?

bye

[sweet hornet]

[trail sun]

hello

[fringe burrow]

Python is a snake not a language.
Prove me Wrong

[trail sun]

but the snake is a programmable game using python

[trail sun]

so the snake is paython not an animal

[pure copper]

A paython isn't an animal. This is an animal

[floral mirage]

Reject Python, embrace C

[pure copper]

Let's address the elephant in the room.

[floral mirage]

I don't want to, he's scary 😦

[pure copper]

Bahh Humbug. I just ran 2 lists of kroean words against each other, and there are so may differences between the 2 list for the same word. Some have multiple definitions, but others are just basically completely wrong. There is list 1, list 2, google, and then the correct meaning. 🙅‍♀️

Same for the Japanese lists I have

And hundreds of no matches which indicate who knows what

[severe cradle]

And our conclusion is?
...
Don't run "2 lists of kroean words against each other"?

[ebon yacht]

Just put on some rock and it wakes you up instantly

[pure copper]

The internnet is a bad source of information. Trust nothing

not even this statement

[severe cradle]

I view it more as a searching and sorting problem (page rank if you wish). As Mulder said: The truth is out there. The problem with the internet is that it is flat, everything equally weighted.
Look for corroborating evidence. Let the crawler/spider run longer.
Use median, not average when sensible.
Trust nothing without checking whether the references are all self-referencing each other in a small circle.
Trust no raves you find.
Mental note: Remember to increase Peo's page rank stats.

[cloud shadow]

Hello, @pure copper

Nice to meet you

can I call you now?

[pure copper]

?'

talk here

[cloud shadow]

Are you mentor and teacher for development and English?

right?

[pure copper]

I help with English. As for development, I leave that to others tro decide

[cloud shadow]

okay

which country are you based on?

Australia?

Good, I am from Germany

[pure copper]

That is nice.

[cloud shadow]

can we meet by call?

at this server

Now I am going to learn English

[pure copper]

Its late. I'm not talking now

[cloud shadow]

I think my English level is biginner

Can you help me?

[pure copper]

You will hear my bad german

[cloud shadow]

I can talk using English

I can speak and listen

[pure copper]

i could listenb to that too, but thats not the point

[cloud shadow]

Can you help me?

I want to improve my english

[pure copper]

in what way

[severe cradle]

Remember to sleep.

[cloud shadow]

listening and speaking

[pure copper]

thanks for reminding me

g spark

[severe cradle]

Developer/English mentors sometimes forget.

[floral mirage]

8 hours of sleep gang

[pure copper]

There are lots of people in the voice chats 24/7 who you can practice with

[severe cradle]

A3 has only one guy, if you wanted to chat awhile.

[severe cradle]

A3 has only one guy, if you wanted to chat awhile.

[pure copper]

Es ist eine gute Raum.

A3

[cloud shadow]

yeah

[floral mirage]

Jawohl

[cloud shadow]

how can I find A3

[pure copper]

it follows a0, a1, a2,...

[floral mirage]

I wonder, where does the scale come from? A3 and B3

[cloud shadow]

I am looking for English club for Development

[pure copper]

im still here though, Follow my spirited ping

You can chat here about development. via text

[cloud shadow]

okay

Thank you for your time

[pure copper]

im in vcs during the day my time, otherwise. Catch me there if you see me around

or in class events

[cloud shadow]

okay
Have a nice evening

[pure copper]

What part of Germany are you from?

Germany

[cloud shadow]

Berlin

[pure copper]

Nice. I was there once

Execution halted.

🧜‍♀️

[errant slate]

I'm a german too, but we learn English at school aren't we?

[queen urchin]

😂 yeah, normally from primary school

[errant slate]

Yeah, it's true but in the 3th grade was the beginning at that point I have learned english

only a few vocablury words as like bunny, car, blue and little bit more

In the past I have too describe what the words means or only translate

[queen urchin]

ohh, how old are you if I may ask?

[errant slate]

I wouldn't say my age but I can say I'm old enough to be at the jail xD

In Germany

[queen urchin]

I see

[errant slate]

Yeah

Can I may ask you how old you are?

[queen urchin]

not too old or too young.

[errant slate]

The part of it

like the middle

[queen urchin]

just mid-20s

[errant slate]

Ok, so lets talk in #💭｜general

[errant slate]

bruh

let's takl in #🧊｜chill-chat

Idk but isn't that allowed to chat here?

[queen urchin]

mostly the topics related to programming, but no one cares about it imo

[errant slate]

Yo it is but so, If I can or may ask you have you ever experiences at programming

[queen urchin]

you, I've been in this industry for years

[errant slate]

Oh sounds intersting, how many years do you programming and in wich language?

is it pyhton, c# c++ or something else?

[queen urchin]

so many years but cannot list all languages I am using currently since I've been working as a devops engineer

[errant slate]

Are you an senior dev?

[queen urchin]

😁 they call me so

[errant slate]

Oh

[errant slate]

When they call you as an senior dev you're one

definitely

[queen urchin]

when I was turning 27

[errant slate]

Bro what?!!

Thats crazy

[queen urchin]

you know, the difference between sr and jr is just like a slight piece of paper

[errant slate]

No, im must to be honest no xD

[queen urchin]

and futhermore a senior dev in a company can be junior one in another company

junior or senior are not the roles that we can define clearly

[errant slate]

How many years you have done that?

[queen urchin]

since I was working at the university

[errant slate]

Ok. let me ask you something. Are you an german? Or have you ever lifed that before

[queen urchin]

it could be a little tricky for me. I can be called german but have been lived few years.

[errant slate]

Ok so you can speak a litte german?

Or not

[queen urchin]

why just little? almost like a native.

[errant slate]

Ok native, also native in english?

[queen urchin]

nahh, I'm native in japanese.

[errant slate]

Wait What?!!

[queen urchin]

almost a native in japanese as well. maybe it cannot be perfect but I studied university there

[errant slate]

When you are studying at a university, you're damn good because the use another level of language it's not more than normal but also quit difficult as a normal native speaker. The people are more educated

[queen urchin]

you can't even imagine of studying in japan. I needed to learn that difficult language first

[trail sun]

hi i need a help in jwt

[sterile apex]

@pure copper

are u asleep now?

[long kestrel]

how know about the lib leaflet in django and can help me?

[mighty robin]

JavaScript for life

for life that i hate

which doesnt mean i dont do js

javascript is like drugs, you start doing it, and you cant stop

[woven bridge]

I wanna take such drugs

[glass junco]

hi any people here who knows html????

[thick canyon]

I know HTML knowledge

[pure copper]

Type your stuff up in a word processor such as Word or Libre Office and select save as html. No one should be manually writing this stuff. Its 70 years old.

<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"/>
<title></title>
<meta name="generator" content="LibreOffice 7.6.2.1 (Windows)"/>
<meta name="created" content="2024-01-30T18:39:28.935000000"/>
<meta name="changed" content="2024-01-30T18:40:00.733000000"/>
<style type="text/css">
@page { size: 21cm 29.7cm; margin: 2cm }
p { line-height: 115%; margin-bottom: 0.25cm; background: transparent }
</style>
</head>
<body lang="en-ARCTIC" link="#000080" vlink="#800000" dir="ltr"><p style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm">
<span style="display: inline-block; border: none; padding: 0cm">Type
your stuff up in a word processor such as Word or Libre Office and
select save as html. No one should be manually writing this stuff.
Its 70 years old.</span>
</p>
</body>
</html>

[glass junco]

I tried to place these images side by side, it end up stacking on each other

[floral mirage]

Do you use css for that?

[glass junco]

yeah

[floral mirage]

Have you tried adding float?

@glass junco

[glass junco]

yes

well i gave up after that

i try to find other solutionsin in w3schools

[floral mirage]

I tried to copy your code and did something like this

That's how the images now line up

[glass junco]

maybe ill redo it, thank you so much sir

gonna use that to my shop page

[mighty robin]

Lmfao what the f

Youre delusional to say the least

there are special things like emmet to speed up writing the html, and sure its being written manually

usually embedded into javascript or its frameworks tho

[mighty robin]

Float is extremelly outdated practice

Flexbox and grid are the modern approaches

In your case, set display: flex;

And thats it

[glass junco]

alr did

[pure copper]

[glass junco]

javascript?

c++ is for games right?

ooohhh

i prioritize website languages like javascript, html and css

since i dont have any basic knowledge in c++, python or java

[pure copper]

Once you understand a language, its not too difficult to move into starting another. Java and C are reasonably close with the basics, so its just a matter of learning the differences. The bigger difference for you may be in potentailly working on whole of system applications. But that's just an assumption that I hope is wrong.

[mighty robin]

yeah or you can just use the fact we're living in XXI century and everything can be done in javascript (and typescript if youre smart enough to learn it)

windows, linux, macos apps? javascript in electron

backend of web apps? javascript in nodejs

mobile apps on android and ios? javascript in react native

front end of web apps? javascript in react/angular/vue

the frameworks and libraries of js are the ultimate bless, and curse, of this universe

[mighty robin]

If u know one well, u will learn some other with relative ease. Good luck with your js adventures my filipino soul, gusto kong bumisita ang pilipinas (not google translate lmao)

[glass junco]

thanks man

[sterile apex]

is there anyone who has experieced in web developement except @pure copper and @mighty robin ?

others are scammers!!!

lmaooo~

[ebon yacht]

I made a code to check a license plate, example 'AAA0000', I spent many hours checking it

[sterile apex]

sorry about to hear that.

It's not real development

[coral venture]

I've been building Java/Spring Boot APIs lately.

[ebon yacht]

good

do you play the guitar?

[coral venture]

Yeap! I'm a retired guitar player who has been developing software for about 10 years 🤟🏼
actually, I play guitar to record videos and put them on YouTube

[ebon yacht]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa5wZfX7T9Q - play this for me

[coral venture]

Nice

[river hill]

hey guys

who need my help?

[sage stratus]

Hi guys, do anyone have DNS configuration for Linux, master and slave config and also forward and reverse zone. İf anyone has things to do step by step, plese send me

[coral venture]

I would like to help but network it's not my thing

[fossil adder]

I didn't know this chat exists

[coral venture]

Welcome 🙌🏽

[river hill]

Hi Paulo

[coral venture]

🙌

[river hill]

how are you?\

[verbal zephyr]

Hello devs

[river hill]

HI michael

[topaz orbit]

hey

can someone help me with html code?

[pure copper]

Was it a valid number in the end?

[pure copper]

I used to play the guitar on the MTV. That's the way you do it.🧜‍♀️ 🤑

[pure copper]

ping gnoyek. He's very cluey on html probs.

[pure copper]

but seriously, what were you checking?

[topaz orbit]

ohh okay

[obtuse radish]

...

[pure copper]

Hi

[shy glade]

Can anyone here explain to me how can I learn algorithms and give me some resources

[pure copper]

We listed a few types of basic things that should be learned to give some starting points.

[shy glade]

I'm not a beginner I know c, c++, data structures and some algorithms but I didn't feel that I'm good at problem solving

[pure copper]

#💻｜programming message

This is a suggested list of things to look at

Also third

#💻｜programming message

@shy glade

Look these up online with a search. But it's best to try out things for yourself. Pick some simple your high school maths formulae and code them. For example volume under a curve rotated about the x axis as an example, using calculus (sing small parts)

[shy glade]

oky thank you

[arctic root]

USACO guide is good pick up a topic and solve like 20problems from different online judges like codeforces , cses , SPOJ on it if u become comfortable pick another topic and so on i would recommend CSES because it has limited so it encourages u to continue , beside the topic u can go on virtual contests or any old contest in codeforces from time to time and try live contests too if you are not interested in competitve programming then skip codeforces and try leetcode . keep solving as a habit and you will become beast in algorithms and problem solving this will take time so be patient

[sterile apex]

😆

i agree with @arctic root

codeforces is good online judge that could learn about algorithms and data structures.

[arctic root]

yup

[sterile apex]

where are u from?

have ever took part in acm icpc contests?

[arctic root]

egypt

[arctic root]

tried once but couldnt pass the locals

what about you

[sterile apex]

M...

i won region contest but failed at final

egypt university?

[arctic root]

thats great

[arctic root]

cairo

the capital 😄

[sterile apex]

aha~

got it

[arctic root]

where u from

[sterile apex]

i'm from los angeles

[sterile apex]

nice to meet u @arctic root

[arctic root]

me too :))

[sterile apex]

i took part in tokyo 2014]

what about u?

[arctic root]

wow thats so far haha

2years ago for me

[sterile apex]

lol

[arctic root]

for Egypt universities

[sterile apex]

i'm kenji anderson.

japanese-american

[arctic root]

tokyo level is more difficult than here i bet

[sterile apex]

understand?

yeah

that's right

more strong in maths

[arctic root]

Asia level is different

[arctic root]

yea

[arctic root]

nice to meet u kenji

[sterile apex]

me too Muhammed

So now, what do u do for a living? graduated from university?

[arctic root]

currently no im not working just wait to finish my last year in university im going to work bec working in last year with graduation project and these stuff is overwhelming

[sterile apex]

u're right

[arctic root]

also we dont pay much money for university like in US so yea u can work after university

u dont need to look for a part time job

[sterile apex]

development is too hard for man

[arctic root]

alot

especially if you study computer science not a self taught developer

[sterile apex]

what's your plan for next to graduation?

[arctic root]

mmm

im going to look for a backend position

[sterile apex]

perfect

[sterile apex]

Aha, it's natural fit to us.

[arctic root]

😂 exactly

if u like coding much then backend

else but u like math then go for ML

what about u what do u do for living currenlty

[sterile apex]

lol, i had selected it.

[sterile apex]

after graduated from osaka university,

i decided to be a fullstack...

lmaoooo

but this job is so tired for me.

too easy, time consumming...

lol~

[arctic root]

i agree

time consuming

[sterile apex]

i immigrated to us last year.

[arctic root]

that most of the time u start losing balance between ur life and ur career

[sterile apex]

yeah

[arctic root]

depends on the handover time in work field or before projects deadline in uni life

[arctic root]

so ur first language is japanease and english is the second ?

[sterile apex]

yup

u're right

[arctic root]

cool

so u watch anime without subtitles XD

lucky

[sterile apex]

and know chinese a bit

and kor

[arctic root]

u speak all asian languages dude haha

[sterile apex]

lol

wbu?

[arctic root]

Arabic is my first langugae

then english

and lil french

school level

[sterile apex]

M... wow~

i wanna learn french very much

[arctic root]

for me i wanna learn japanease

i tried once i had that enthusiasm lol

[sterile apex]

haha me too!

[sterile apex]

u're funny bro.

[arctic root]

but i find it diffcult so i gave up + i realised that it needs more than the passion to be good at it

[sterile apex]

native japanese is more difficult than native eng

[arctic root]

no comparison xD

unless i want to go to japan and live there then that will be enough motive for me at least

[sterile apex]

lol~

wanna live in japan?

or not?

[arctic root]

if i got a contract to work in Japan ofc ill be glad

[sterile apex]

M.. it's not so hard, i think.

[sterile apex]

because u know me

lol

[arctic root]

haha sure

[sterile apex]

when u'll graduated from university

[arctic root]

this year in July

[sterile apex]

not so far~

[arctic root]

yea almost

[sterile apex]

@pure copper ?

there?

we could meet in tokyo. lol

bro

and we can meet in tokyo

if i didnt immigrate to us.

@arctic root

[arctic root]

i hope

that would be great

find me a job there and im so welcomed :))

[sterile apex]

i know girls in egypt are beutiful, aren't they?

[sterile apex]

sure.

[arctic root]

well yea they are but not the girls in my major haha

[sterile apex]

haha why?

guy's first major is girls. i think.

[pure copper]

IF 'guy's first major is girls' AND 'girls in Egypt are beutiful' AND 'not the girls in Muhammed Gaber major' THEN Muhammed Gaber is NOT IN Egypt.

[pure copper]

Hello?

[sterile apex]

🤨

long time no see

[pure copper]

At least since yesterday

5 hours ago

[sterile apex]

it's so difficult to say with u

lol

[pure copper]

say whaaaaat?

[sterile apex]

🫣

angry?

[pure copper]

no. Why would I be?

ping

Reply from Prometheus: bytes=32 time=80s TTL=64

[sterile apex]

haha~

i called @pure copper with my loudly voice four times! (or maybe more)

[pure copper]

I see that not here

[sterile apex]

u saw it but did not reply to ping~

😭

how's feeling today?

@arctic root

?

[pure copper]

Perhaps becsuse it was after 3am 🙅‍♀️ . I dont listen to pings specifically, or if there are multiple,in a channel I may miss them if they clear when I see the most recent. There are many techincal concerns that must be looked at. Let me check my records and I will get back too you on this.

Maybe not.. Its almost 3 again

🛏️ 🧜‍♀️

[quartz steeple]

Hlooo

Any one live??

[shy glade]

Hello

Im new in here

[quartz steeple]

Where are you from

[shy glade]

Afg wbu

[quartz steeple]

India

[shy glade]

Good

[quartz steeple]

What's your favorite sports

[shy glade]

Buzkashi

[shy glade]

Come in general to talk abt these

[digital fern]

hello

i have interview tommorrow, is there anyone who wants to talk and help me to prepare myself ?

[sterile apex]

@pure copper plz give me an opinion for my discord bot.

[golden ether]

# Challenge
usernames = input("Enter your username : ")
usernumber = 0
for username in usernames:
    usernumber += 1
print(usernames + "has" + str(usernumber) + "letter")

[pure copper]

What is this trying to do? It doesn't make sense.

Perhaps the English doesn't match the functionality, or i don't understand functionality anymore.

[pure copper]

I'm no discord bot understanderer. But if you wish to talk functionality, I'm willing to listen here.

[pure copper]

Is it too late for you.? Did you have your interview yet?

[real river]

any web dev here?

[pure copper]

You already know the answer to that neil

[real river]

I mean online web dev, peo

[pure copper]

I'm not a 'webdev', but everyone else is

Unless the key word is online now

[real river]

I know you are not, but I don't know everyone else is... 😋

[pure copper]

It #1 first question everyone asks when they join. That is the universe these days

[real river]

Oh really? honestly I haven't been to here for a long time

[pure copper]

But you have been here a long time

[real river]

long time no see #💻｜programming

[real river]

and long time no see @pure copper

[pure copper]

And long time no see @real river (dumb kb)

[real river]

😁

[pure copper]

Kb=keyboard in case of any mis understanding

[real river]

oh thank you, I am just typing it to Chat-GPT

[pure copper]

Having a chat with gpt instead of me

[real river]

😆 having a chat to understand you

[pure copper]

I'm too complex for bot

[real river]

you are too humorous to understand without gpt

[pure copper]

How many pages did you get for dumb kb?

[real river]

"Dumb KB" likely refers to a "dumb keyboard" in the context of technology. In this case, "dumb" doesn't mean lacking intelligence; instead, it indicates simplicity or lack of advanced features. A "dumb keyboard" may refer to a basic or standard keyboard without additional functionalities, such as programmable keys, RGB lighting, or other advanced features found in more sophisticated keyboards. It's a colloquial term that contrasts with "smart" or advanced keyboards that may have additional capabilities, often associated with gaming or specialized use.

that's all 😢

[pure copper]

No. it does represent no intelligence. See gpt is wrong.

It means stupid kb. Not low functionality.

It's too smart or thinks it is, and puts incorrect word substitutions in when i don't want them.

[real river]

yeah, I got it

[real river]

And why it is dumb kb?

[pure copper]

Similar to gpt. Thinks it's smart but churns out blabble

[real river]

🧐

[pure copper]

Because: "It's trying to be smart or thinks it is, and puts incorrect word substitutions in when i don't want them."

[real river]

uh, which word is incorrect in that greeting? 🤔

[pure copper]

Nothing. I had to spend 2 minutes editing each of these posts to get it back to what i said

[real river]

hmm, red keybord

and dark interface...

strange design... 🤔

[pure copper]

I will d we mibsteate

I will demonstrate

[real river]

demonstrate what?

[pure copper]

The stupid kb system

Substutution

I will retype a past post

[real river]

[pure copper]

Fun on little Tetris to a dumb keyboard in the context of you in this case dumb doesn't mean lacking in intelligence instead of indicated simplicity or lack of D features. S Don Keith's may fritter to add Jesus it standard keyboard without additional continuously such as preferable keys rgb lighting or other specialized features.

Compare this with your post. I typed what you have but this is what comes out with dum kb

[real river]

well, well... why don't you participate in training gpt-model? You can train gpt-5!

hello? are you 😴 ?

[pure copper]

Train... I train humans

Sorry just a quick hair wash

Got hot. It's to be 45 today

@real river

Well i guess you missed that picture

Turns head away just at most important moment of past 5 months

[sterile apex]

[pure copper]

Another blast from the past

How are you @sterile apex

[sterile apex]

fine, wbu?

[pure copper]

well as well. Just woken. Boring day ahead. going to cook a slow roast brisket soon

[sterile apex]

lol boring is not good...

but why boring?

[pure copper]

just finished 6 weeks holiday, and bwas back to work for 2 days, now onleave for another 5 days, and its too hot to go out, so Im just singing i guess.

[sterile apex]

haha

u don't love to work.

like lazybones?

[pure copper]

its ok, but I finshed readying my 1000 emails, so now im waiting for new tasks

[sterile apex]

1000 emails?

what's for?

[pure copper]

im actually bored with home programming prject. i dont know what features to add

flashcard program. Any suggestions

[pure copper]

people asking for help around office

[sterile apex]

aha~

ic

[pure copper]

testing, specs, rules, info etc

[sterile apex]

Allow users to add images, audio, or even videos to flashcards. This can enhance the learning experience, especially for subjects that benefit from visual or auditory aids.

[pure copper]

Yeah, but then I have to set up a file managemnt system to manage the images. It already has some imaging functionality, but I don't want to venture there much more. Its not a nice place to go.

It also have sound for pronumciation, but I disabled that for the same reason

[real river]

which picture?

[pure copper]

I also wrote those functions years ago, so its dusty and cobwebs and a scary place to review

[sterile apex]

lol~

[real river]

just woken at 10:30? 🫢

[pure copper]

wake up sequence is 3 hours long

[sterile apex]

If you're looking to avoid additional complexity with image management and have disabled sound functionality, you can still enhance your flashcard program with features that don't involve multimedia elements extensively.

[pure copper]

text is all I am willing to work with presently

[sterile apex]

Allow users to shuffle or randomize the order of their flashcards during study sessions to enhance memory recall.

[pure copper]

it does that already

[sterile apex]

👍

[pure copper]

What it doesnt do is categorize words within the program. That is something I would like to add, but really need to add a DBMS for data stroage to do this properly

actually if I did this, it could handle multimedia files, but it then becomes too hard to distribute as a single .exe file

[sterile apex]

If you're considering adding a database management system (DBMS) for categorizing words and handling multimedia files within your flashcard program, you're heading in the right direction for more advanced features.

However, you're correct that distributing a single .exe file could become more complex with an embedded database and multimedia files.

I agree with u for this point.

what do u think about keeping multimedia files external to the executable and storing file paths or references in the database instead of embedding files directly.

[pure copper]

That is what i would or actually do do

Relative directory to a path set in a config file

[sterile apex]

Implement a mechanism to handle multimedia file storage in a separate folder structure alongside your executable.

[pure copper]

./data/...

[sterile apex]

yup

that's right

[pure copper]

It's there now

[sterile apex]

[pure copper]

But a dbms requires it's own .Dll , exe. Etc

Then an install system to put it all together.

Presently the system can just be saved in .zip and unpacked into a directory and clicked on

No 3rd party code

[sterile apex]

Indeed, integrating a full-fledged DBMS might add complexity to the simplicity of a standalone executable.

[pure copper]

I've got code for one up in the attic.

Just have to find some drives to play the media and upload the files

[sterile apex]

If you're looking to keep the distribution simple and avoid additional dependencies, especially if your users are comfortable with the current setup, you might consider flat file storage , embedded database engine, batch file for initialization and so on.

[sterile apex]

Aha~

lol

🤐

[sterile apex]

there isn't any difficult problem.

[sterile apex]

that's good

clear structure

[pure copper]

I need to implement, n to m database tables in a flat file with random access.

Basic n to m

[sterile apex]

それであなたは日本人ですよね？

haha~

[pure copper]

I'm currently doing this by reading everything into memory, cause memory is so big and data is literally so small these days.

If i was, would i be flashing Japanese?

But maybe English

[sterile apex]

どこの大学を卒業しましたか？

[pure copper]

But I'm native like you, so 🙅‍♀️

[sterile apex]

like me?

[queen urchin]

[sterile apex]

Reading data into memory can indeed be a suitable approach, especially if the data size is manageable, and the application's performance is not compromised.
This method simplifies data access and can lead to a responsive user experience

👍

pardon?

[pure copper]

Pardon?

Que?

[sterile apex]

university

i didn't see it.

[pure copper]

I hope you didn't miss them, cause i cant type again

[sterile apex]

😭

[sterile apex]

それを聞いて本当に申し訳ありません

[pure copper]

got it?

[sterile apex]

got it

ty~ @pure copper

ありがとうございます

[pure copper]

dozo

I cant keep up, with all this activity

like a command centre here.

[sterile apex]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-laughing-emoji-lol-lmao-gif-15974924393212355544

あなたと話しながら幸せな時間になるかもしれません

😉

[pure copper]

only might?

[sterile apex]

sorry~

lol

[pure copper]

I thought it would be 'is a pleasure'

im so sad for my being

[sterile apex]

🤗

自分を元気づけて

[pure copper]

im singing

but morning voice sounds like a chicjken

[sterile apex]

私は妻が知識のある女性であってほしいと思っています

[sterile apex]

haha~

let me to hear your voice.

😆

[pure copper]

do you know how I can implement a tree index withourt using pointers?

[sterile apex]

M..

with static sequence

[pure copper]

im sure ive done some sort of non pointer work in the past> just got a mental block

[sterile apex]

lmaooo~

[pure copper]

insert new items into index, remove, search etc

literally have my reference next to me here. lets see if it can prompt me

[sterile apex]

in 2014, we had not enough memories, so we use static sequence to implement a tree index in contests.

sure,

by using dictionary tree

data structure is my major

[pure copper]

ISAM probably the easiest

[sterile apex]

While ISAM has been historically used, modern databases often employ more sophisticated indexing structures, such as B-trees or hash indexes, to provide efficient data access.

[pure copper]

i THINK i HAVE SOME C CODE i WROTE A FEW YEARS AGO THAT MIGHT (SOORY CAPS) but no, it was with pointers. bahh

[sterile apex]

These structures offer improved performance and scalability compared to traditional ISAM.

[sterile apex]

lmaooo

[pure copper]

yes, I am familiar but with a pointer language which I am going to have to hack in this implementation

ie the language I;m using is not known for pointers

[sterile apex]

is this channel for only two persons?

[pure copper]

no

[sterile apex]

what language?

[pure copper]

its for all people. They jus need to insert themself into the index

[sterile apex]

https://tenor.com/view/its-terrible-michael-bryce-ryan-reynolds-hitmans-wifes-bodyguard-horrible-gif-21612878

[pure copper]

no, its sad now

[sterile apex]

haha, why basic?

[pure copper]

But the original code written decades ago literally still works today without any issues

[sterile apex]

lol~

[pure copper]

It just didnt handle unicode characters back then, so I updated it.

[sterile apex]

i never used VB from i graduated from university.

[pure copper]

does that mean you did use it at uni?

ie since you graduated

[sterile apex]

i used it at university

[pure copper]

One of my big life program I started writing was in C. It was progressing ok. It was pre OO, and I was passing references to code functions as parameters to other functions to execute dynamic code, but when I was doing this, I eventually lost track of what I was doing and my brain crashed, and I had to stop. I'm still thinking of trying again using C++ or Java or something.

[sterile apex]

It sounds like you were working on a significant project in C and encountered challenges with managing dynamic code execution using function pointers and references

[pure copper]

but yes.

you have crashed?

@sterile apex

reboot @sterile apex

[sterile apex]

oh~

there was an issue on my network connection.

[pure copper]

System Restart succeeded 20240201 04:37:00 UTC

[sterile apex]

😆

[pure copper]

[sterile apex]

ty~

[pure copper]

[sterile apex]

So, could we continue our conversation?

[pure copper]

if you wish

@pure copper Resume

pop

[sterile apex]

😄

[pure copper]

I would like to go back to implementing a b tree or similiar indexing system without the use of pointers

[sterile apex]

😁

Ah

got it

[pure copper]

its not funny

[sterile apex]

🫣

[pure copper]

[sterile apex]

i had forgot what i said before

lol

https://tenor.com/view/pooh-think-gif-8829751109291692418

critical issue made me an idiot

[pure copper]

I suppose the challenge then is, is there a way to dynamically allocate memory in a language without alloc(). Give the large size of memory relative to data in a flash card, Could a large memory block just be established at startup and then work within its world

[sterile apex]

Aha~

Yes, in many modern programming languages, you can allocate memory dynamically without using explicit alloc() functions

In C++, you can use dynamic memory allocation with new and delete operators.
However, modern C++ encourages the use of smart pointers and containers from the Standard Template Library (STL) to manage memory more safely and efficiently.

#include <vector>

int main() {
std::vector<int> dynamicArray;
dynamicArray.push_back(1);
dynamicArray.push_back(2);

// No need to explicitly free memory; handled by vector
return 0;

}

[pure copper]

mmm there is:

Dim Ary() as Byte

ReDim Ary(10)

[sterile apex]

🤨

[pure copper]

The language can create an array pointer and then .... but wait... tif I cant use a vairable in redim ary(x) then this will be pointlesS (pun intended)

[sterile apex]

🤣

[pure copper]

tHERE IS A METHOD TO CALL LIBRARIES WRITTEN IN OHER LANGUAGES SO i COUD (FK CAPS) write a memory manager in C/C++ and then link it to the program and call its functions

[sterile apex]

M..

maybe

[pure copper]

probably lobotomize my operating system in memory

[sterile apex]

u know java?

[pure copper]

oh, then there are just collections, which are dynamic in size.and data type

ptptptptptptpt

[sterile apex]

In Java, memory management is handled automatically by the garbage collector, and you don't need to explicitly allocate or free memory.

import java.util.ArrayList;

public class Main {
public static void main(String[] args) {
ArrayList<Integer> dynamicList = new ArrayList<>();
dynamicList.add(1);
dynamicList.add(2);
}
}

like this~

In python, it could be easier than others.

[pure copper]

"Collections provide a more flexible way to work with groups of objects. Unlike arrays, the group of objects you work with can grow and shrink dynamically as the needs of the application change. For some collections, you can assign a key to any object that you put into the collection so that you can quickly retrieve the object by using the key."

[sterile apex]

dynamic_list = [1, 2, 3]

haha~

[pure copper]

I think we are on the same page

[sterile apex]

So do i

[pure copper]

Now onto defining the functions to manage a tree

[sterile apex]

😭

we always have to talk about programming?

😉

[pure copper]

basically a pointer can be a 'pointer' to a position in the collection/array, and they can be int eh structs that the array contains

[pure copper]

So do you know a good BBQ sauce

[sterile apex]

🤣

[pure copper]

for my brisket

its 4 hours to cook, so I should go and start on this soon

[sterile apex]

Sweet Baby Ray's Original Barbecue Sauce

[pure copper]

I mean something that doesnt come from a factory

[sterile apex]

Homemade?

[pure copper]

ie raw ingredient. Like machine language or binary

[sterile apex]

ketchup, brown sugar, vinegar, Worcestershire sauce, and various spices

[pure copper]

not a class library

[sterile apex]

it's all for it

[pure copper]

Ive got that already... literally the same, but I guess what spices are you using

[sterile apex]

guess it~

[pure copper]

from my archive

[sterile apex]

haha~

[pure copper]

If i could guess, i wouldn't ask

Now that I'm in kitchen i guess i start on this

[sterile apex]

Garlic , Onion, Black Pepper, Liquid Smoke and so on

[pure copper]

Mmmm Brown sugar. Should make choc chip cookies

[sterile apex]

i don't know about cooking.

[pure copper]

Liquid smoke... Let me pull that out of my ....

[sterile apex]

but my gf used to make it for me...

[pure copper]

Pppploppp

Ok what next

[sterile apex]

😔

Celery Seed

i think

[pure copper]

That i will use something else

[sterile apex]

lol

why?

[pure copper]

Unless you can see it

[sterile apex]

wow~

https://tenor.com/view/wow-surprised-face-little-boss-gif-alisa-gif-16133616529628653686

it remind me real family

what about Cumin?

[pure copper]

I don't want it to taste like acurry

[sterile apex]

😆

i love cumin

Allspice?

hmm~ @pure copper ?

[pure copper]

I think u ocd

[sterile apex]

why?

do u think so?

😔

https://tenor.com/view/omg-cats-cat-kittens-kitten-gif-11774384

is this girl's room?

🤐

making BBQ?

@pure copper

[pure copper]

Dev den

[sterile apex]

oh~

so confused

how could u focus work in like this den?

[pure copper]

Multi threaded mind

[sterile apex]

haha~

so funny magnet!

[pure copper]

Neural storage of data

[sterile apex]

lamooo

[pure copper]

My favorite number

[sterile apex]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-minion-minecraft-memes-meme-gif-11001614719302883313

[pure copper]

I assume you are referring to what is in the magnets

[sterile apex]

u're funny magnet~

lol

[pure copper]

U calling me a magnet?

[sterile apex]

yup!

[pure copper]

I'm deeper than that

[sterile apex]

what's this?

[pure copper]

The meaning of computing

[sterile apex]

so much confident for yourself?

[sterile apex]

aha~

[pure copper]

Aha mmmmm?

[sterile apex]

show me

i don't think so

fanny magnet!!!

lol~

[pure copper]

Well im i just thought of this then. What do you find in the fridge.?

reboot @sterile apex

[sterile apex]

oh!!! so stressful!!!

what's wrong with my connection?

https://tenor.com/view/fogo-computer-stress-gif-26440911

[pure copper]

So? @sterile apex

[sterile apex]

I can find half of an apple in fridge.

😔

[pure copper]

Something to byte on

[sterile apex]

M...

Leftovers?

haha~

do u know what my favourite number is?

u can guess it

[pure copper]

32767

[sterile apex]

😁

nei~

real zero!!!

[pure copper]

0 Kelvin

[sterile apex]

https://tenor.com/view/zero-nada-zilch-number-zero-numeral-zero-gif-20167453

or may be null?

lol

nothing is everything

😄

and nobody is perfect

[pure copper]

Oh null

[sterile apex]

do not upload like this photos

https://tenor.com/view/martinlawrence-food-hungry-starving-stare-gif-10350622652497546135

why is there anyone except u in your photos?

oh, gosh

did u have your lunch?

[pure copper]

Now into oven for 3 - 4 hours

[sterile apex]

haha~

cooking dishes?

@pure copper may i go to bed now?

😿

[pure copper]

Ok. Sleep(32767)

[sterile apex]

sorry.

i'm so tired.

[pure copper]

Bye

[sterile apex]

i wanna to be with u

but, by soul ....

[pure copper]

K/n

[sterile apex]

🤣

talk soon

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[sweet hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/big-bad-wolf-dinner-time-hungry-gif-21413044

[pure copper]

Anyone know quickly if python does
i =+ 1 and i += 1 ?

[glossy heart]

there's no += or =+

in python

i = i + 1

should work

[pure copper]

But there is.

[glossy heart]

then +=

[pliant shoal]

i = +1 maybe is allow in python