💻｜programming

[wise forge]

What yu wanna know

[severe parrot]

your gender, age etc the first

Man, 29 is mine

[wise forge]

I'm a male immigrant from Brazil 21 lol

[severe parrot]

greencard holder?

[wise forge]

I said that I can help you but I don't actually know what you were talking about lol

[wise forge]

Nop

[severe parrot]

Okay.

[wise forge]

H1B

[severe parrot]

good

visa status..

[wise forge]

Wanna deport me boy?

I am legall lol

[severe parrot]

No way...just wanna get know about you

no other purpose...lol don't be serious

[wise forge]

Sure

[severe parrot]

What are u doing now?

[wise forge]

I don't trust in people from the west

[wise forge]

Just chilling what about you?

[severe parrot]

No, I don't

I don't feel much interest in chilly environment

I am an IT engineer.

so I usually focus on my work.

[wise forge]

Well

You are a Jr só You should be

[severe parrot]

lol...

[wise forge]

But later on you learn how to not give a damn

Just kidding

A don't sleep for weeks

You'll never have peace again

[wise forge]

Lol

I must go good lucky with your project

[severe parrot]

what do u do for living?

[wise forge]

Web developer

[severe parrot]

tech stack?

Mean or Mern?

[wise forge]

Full stack Django/React.js

[severe parrot]

python and javascript

[wise forge]

And you?

[severe parrot]

me....?

A full stack...

[wise forge]

Right

[severe parrot]

include Django and React

besides, more languages...

some are really professional

others are junior level like Ruby, Golang, Asp, Java etc..

how about u?

[wise forge]

That's impressive

[severe parrot]

do u prefer back end or frontend?

[wise forge]

No person on earth prefer front end

There is no such thing

[severe parrot]

Yeah...that's my boy.

[wise forge]

🤣🤣🤣

[severe parrot]

Tobe honest... I haate design

If I have something like that, I generally outsource it

like Indian devs...lol

[wise forge]

It's because you're a programmer bro not a designer

[severe parrot]

they are very affordable

[wise forge]

Bro lol

I am Indian you know

I find it very offensive

[severe parrot]

u from Brazil or India?

[wise forge]

Lol

You just too smart to mess with

But Brazil is cheap too

[severe parrot]

lol...stop pulling my legs

[wise forge]

I would never do this your balls are in it

Seriously now I must go very nice talk

[severe parrot]

okay.

hang around..

[wise forge]

Sure...

[errant slate]

In wich langugage do you programming guys?

[dense roost]

mostyl python for fun, but i tried to learn cpp, now im a bit busy but i think to retake it in december

what about you?

[fluid siren]

Hello guys are here any web developer?

Are u working? Can u give some advices and the materials about web development?

[errant slate]

I learn at the moment or for 1 Month started I programming in Lua, I had a good journey

Yeah It runs fine

[shy glade]

https://roadmap.sh/full-stack

roadmap for full stack web development ^^

[shy glade]

many languages, for a project i choose the language accordingly

i code in like c, c++, python, javascript, php, rust etc

[wise forge]

Hello gays

[errant slate]

Is that not hard enough?

or for you like something?

[shy glade]

anybody here into cybersecurity ?

[fluid siren]

Frontend bro

[vernal parcel]

Are you front-end developer?

[fluid siren]

yes i am

[vernal parcel]

great.

I am developer too.

what can I help you?

[old meadow]

me

[dense roost]

i wouldnt trust in someone who says they know more than 3 languages haha

even if they have tried all of them, it would be impossible to masterized it

[serene mirage]

True

[shy glade]

Python

Name = I'm new
Print(Name)

Output

---

I'm new

[dense roost]

that doesnt works haha

[shy glade]

💀 ☠ 💀

Bru destroyed my dream 💀 ☠ 💀

[mighty robin]

yup

you can find a lot of free stuff

on freecodecamp, for example

but generally the way i go about this, after many free tutorials, is that i stopped trusting them and now i pay for udemy courses (u get them with huge discounts during new year and big events, so thats cheap then, normally theyre not)

my favorite instructors for web dev would definitely be Jonas Schmedtmann and Max Schwarzmuller, both on udemy.com

[glad yarrow]

Nah, it was 90% correct

[shy glade]

Finally some one sees my future

[glad yarrow]

Believe in you bro 🤝

[shy glade]

Name = "I'm new"
print(Name)

💀 ☠ bru recognized me am I famous?

[pure copper]

Not true. I've programmed in many languages over the years. Had no hassles in acheiving my goals. Besides, these days all the languages look the same, do if you feel that way, given the blending and integration of all the languages with all, then perhaps it's you that should be feared to be trusted.

Or logically, your statement is true and ( I've programmed in many languages 3+ and i agree)

[dense roost]

i wont argue with someone who says all the languages look the same

[pure copper]

90% of not much, it's still not much 🧜‍♀️

[pure copper]

I see an accountant or philosophy lecturer

[pure copper]

Everyone who chats here is famous, including you.

[quaint meteor]

Hi

[shy glade]

@pure copper well thank poe

[fluid siren]

bro Angular is better or Reactjs? and give me the reasons

[devout marlin]

i want to learn java.

[rocky bear]

Bro code is insane I learned with him a lot

[eager vapor]

Here is a article about them
https://kinsta.com/blog/angular-vs-react/

I'm my opinion, if it's a small project and you want make fast take React
If is a huge project and you want a organized structure take Angular

With anyone you can make a good things, you only need know how take advantage of each one

[vernal parcel]

Angular👎 , React👍
But they are very popular in front-end development.

[devout marlin]

will see his videos. can i add u btw?

[fluid siren]

if i want to find a job. Angular will be easier or react?

[eager vapor]

Here in Brazil there more position for react, I don't know in the other countries.
I don't know what level you are, but it's better you have strong knowledge in Javascript/Typescript/HTML/CSS instead in lib or framework like React and Angular, because this frameworks change a lot

If you could, make some project with both, and try to apply to position

[fluid siren]

I have been learning coding for 1 and half year. I have learned html css (scss) js nodejs (mongodb) and a little bit about cs.

I would like to code with OOP patterns

pattern*

[vernal parcel]

here?!

[shy glade]

İdk this is programming or not but , i just made website

[eager vapor]

great

with OOP, you can learn JAVA, C# and related

I don't know if you're appling for jobs... but try

[vernal parcel]

okay.
that's good idea. but he is 15 years old. lol

[main robin]

I think React is more popular and useful.

[main robin]

It's good.

Most of language support OOP pattern.

[glad yarrow]

I would say that React is like the standard in industry, at least for now. Learning React would give move employability chance

I used Angular in my internship and I kinda hated it, tbh

Well, I don't really like frontend development

[main robin]

I love the both front end and backend.

[main robin]

Are you software develoepr?

[glad yarrow]

I'm not working at the moment, I'm on my last semester

[main robin]

Oh

Good

May I ask one?

[main robin]

May i ask one?

[glad yarrow]

Sure

[main robin]

Where are you from?

[glad yarrow]

I'm from Ecuador, South America P:

[main robin]

Oh

I am from Japan.

I am 33 years old.

I 'd like to have partnership with you.

Is it available for you?

[rocky bear]

For sure you can 🥰

[pure copper]

As a potential employer and PM , I would be looking for a solution that has been well developed for my money and whilst I would say Angular appears to give that, React also has features that are of equal benefit. In the end, I would be employing someone who was familiar with both, A person that can understand the differences, will know how to communicate with a development team of mixed skills, and provide input into the development environment of the shortfalls of one over the other when they impact a project.

[wooden hazel]

anybody interested in a VC about C language? message me please, thanks

[shy glade]

discussing about languages is dumb

[wooden hazel]

yeah, there are definitely too many programming languages available

people get easily confused

[shy glade]

what are you talking about?

this is not even releavant

[wooden hazel]

and tons of low-quality code is produced every day

in many languages

[dull lion]

Hey guys can anyone help me with practicing English w me cuz i have to develop it and i think I’m in level zero in ENGLISH so if anyone interest please dm me

[serene mirage]

What happened mate?

[wooden hazel]

you want to talk about C language?

[rocky bear]

You’re a programmer too celine?

[shy glade]

Can someone help me with the javascript assignment

I'm willing to pay

[wise forge]

You do write in English so I wouldn't say that you're a lvl 0

[wise forge]

Bro just love talk about C

[pulsar folio]

Hello beings of the highest light

I need a hacker, who can help me?

[shy glade]

hy

Hi

[viscid raft]

Cuz it is the third best lang

[rocky bear]

Plz anyone tell me how to deal with github or how to learn it

[exotic tiger]

YouTube

[rocky bear]

Do you recommend any channels?

[exotic tiger]

Harry has some good videos if you are looking in hindi

[rocky bear]

Unfortunately I’m looking for English natives 😭

[exotic tiger]

https://youtu.be/RGOj5yH7evk?si=87yQW-SJFySOZLpU

FreeCodeCamp.org has some best free resources

[rocky bear]

Thank you mehdi for your help

[exotic tiger]

Double it and give it to the next person

[errant slate]

true for real

like you can only 1 very good and others like a beginner

[slim merlin]

Hi everyone, I'm Alex. Beginner Frontend devman. I'm learning English and JavaScript basis now. There's already some experience in layout.
There's want learn TypeScript + React. Looking for web development beginners like myself~

[main robin]

Hi, Alex. I am well-rounded web developer. How can I help you?

[wise forge]

Nah bro in practice not at all

but to learn the principles of programming it's great

[pure copper]

As you move through life, you will master many languages and relegate the old to the Oracle of time.

[shy glade]

third-best lang ❌
third-class lang ✅

/j

[shy glade]

just watch a youtube tutorial

[viscid raft]

In practice it is better too

[wise forge]

I understand your point, but still, to a large and complex project it's just not worth the headache

In any field whatsoever

[viscid raft]

OS development without C?

[wise forge]

I just said that is not one of the best, I didn't say that it is worthless

[slim merlin]

I'm just looking for buddies to develop in this~
But thx for help ❤️

[rocky bear]

Do you recommend any channel?

[dense roost]

what are you trying to do?

just to upload/update files?

usually i just do this when i want to do that

git add .
git commit -m whateveryouwanthere
git pull origin main
git branch -M main
git push -u origin main```

at the moment you already should have installed git

i dont like to follow tutorials since they are too verbose but if you feel comfortable watching them, so watch someone uploading or doing the specific thing you are trying to do

[rocky bear]

Tbh I don’t know what must done on github so i want to learn how to see effective things that help me and things like that

[shy glade]

freeCodeCamp

[rocky bear]

Thank you sure i will see it ❤️

[plucky pike]

[fathom jewel]

as a beginner should i learn node js or laravel

[spiral lily]

this kind of question is easier to answer with a little bit more context. What are trying to achieve?

other thing to point out is: NodeJS is a programming language and Laravel is a Framework, the best comparison could be between NodeJs and PHP for instance.

[fathom jewel]

I just got done with front end now I want to learn back end and I know mysql as well..should learn php as you put it or node js...also which one would be good from the perspective of jobs

And which would be easier

[shy glade]

Hello.
Can someone who is well versed in python socket contact me?

[pure copper]

No C? Try COBOL instead!

[viscid raft]

better trying assembly

[mighty robin]

nodeJS is a server environment for javascript language to execute

normally, JS can be executed only by the browsers, nodeJS, electron, and react native are all frameworks which make it possible to execute it outside of the browser

[pure copper]

I'll write an assembler in COBOL then

[wooden hazel]

hello everybody, interested in developing a new programming language?

[pure copper]

Always, but really dont have the time anymore

[errant slate]

Yeah I understand it

[quaint meteor]

Hi

[wise forge]

hello fellow, how are you

[wise forge]

intriguing

I'm not a professional in this matter, but it doesn't seem to be a good idea

[rocky otter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGOBQPFzWKo&list=WL&index=1

[shy glade]

try c++ or rust

if not these then you are gonna choose horrible languages

also writing full os in assembly is not a good decision

[shy glade]

i hope that you are kidding

[shy glade]

well

node.js is technically a js runtime environment, you can use it for app dev, web dev etc

laravel is a php web framework

i'd assume you're gonna use node.js for backend dev (express.js and node.js)

i would highly recommend you to go with node.js

php's market share is going down

also js is more scalable than php

[viscid raft]

C++ and rust are trashes

[quaint meteor]

JS hi

Hi

[dense roost]

hi

[shy glade]

okay, 🤓!

[shy glade]

hi

[viscid raft]

?

[pure copper]

§

[shy niche]

Hello

[shy glade]

heyo

[wise forge]

Better yet forget all these good for nothing languages you just need HTML, CSS and Javascript nothing more

Yu can can create a whole OS if you put enough effort and believe in yourself

[plush parrot]

@wise forge good luck creating an os with html

[wise forge]

Thks friend you are a friend

[plush parrot]

[pure copper]

Isn't that called a browser

[wise forge]

Nah I'm pure sure it's called a operating system

I made it I name it, pure simple logic

[shy glade]

@wise forge good luck creating an os with html (2)

[pure copper]

It is done

[vernal parcel]

Is this notepad++?

right?

[shy glade]

What is this?

[somber willow]

hi, are there people here, who learns Java?

[dense roost]

is funny most of the best programmers are actually pretty good at maths

[humble minnow]

White theme has a great impact on eye health

[shy glade]

by learn programming, you get better at logic, by being better at logic you get better at math. It becomes more evident if you try functional programming.

[pure copper]

You got me there!

[pure copper]

This is a high power operating system written in html

[pure copper]

My main VDU is green on Black

[humble minnow]

I haven't used it before but I learned about it. Still, wouldn't using a black theme increase the effect?

[vernal parcel]

Are you programmer?

[slate pawn]

does anyone need help with javascript ?

[pure copper]

I have programmed for many years. I only do it for a little bit of fun, now,. My primary activities are system design , project management and compliance.

[vernal parcel]

Did you work at the company before?

[shy glade]

But the body just started at the line of 762

[wise forge]

you stole my idea😭

silly you, there is no functionalities in your OS

[pure copper]

The first 762 lines process the commands and control the file system and I/O devices. You don't think I would just go and publish that.

[pure copper]

Can't steal an idea that's been around for 60 years

text formatting languages have been around for many decades. Its not really programming, just word processing.

[pure copper]

#💻｜programming message

[wise forge]

you are right jokes on me 😦

but still

[pure copper]

[wise forge]

take a look at this

I send a link to you guys when its ready

[pure copper]

looking for a ban

[wise forge]

not me lol

[shy glade]

But the body part is just small, I think html should start with all content in the body part

[wise forge]

bro how can you let sensitive information in the body

never trust in the user

[naive gale]

i'm learning java

k

[jovial vault]

my os is not windows so could you please add one more function for linux and macOS as well? I use arch btw)

[wise forge]

Sure thing friend everything for the costumer

[shy glade]

if you are making an os like this

then use websockets

they are lighter than http requests

and make sure to make a nice looking ui

@shy glade

[shy glade]

Thanks dude

[shy glade]

you may ask your questions here

[shy glade]

Thanks a lot dude

[south rune]

What's the problem here guys

[shy glade]

probaby w. the functions you have made

[south rune]

I'm trying to use printf command with C++

[south rune]

ohh ill check it

[shy glade]

printf works w. c++

it's in the iostream header file by itself

or cstdio if you want a c++ version of stdio.h and don't want other functions like std::cout and std::cin from c++ stl, just c i/o functions

[vernal parcel]

u are allright.

👍

[south rune]

the function is 100% working
and printf is also working but with only %d
when i use %s i got garbage

[wise forge]

sure thing

[viscid raft]

What is the content of EnumToString funciton?

[south rune]

Bro the function works well

look it works when i use cout

string EnumToString(enAttendOrNot AttendOrNot)
{
    string AttendOrNot_str[] = { "NotAttend" , "Attend" };

    return AttendOrNot_str[AttendOrNot];
}

[viscid raft]

The wrong thing u do is giving std::string as an argument to the printf function. %s takes char* not std::string, so u have to write EnumToString(arguments).c_str()

[south rune]

it works
so why should i use .c_str()

The function is supposed to return a strange so why doesn't it work

[viscid raft]

The printf functions takes const char* as a value to print the string

And your function returns std::string

[south rune]

I was coding in C and %s was take string
%c for character

[viscid raft]

In C you can access strings by char*

Which is a pointer to the first character

[south rune]

yea yea

[viscid raft]

But in C++ the std::string isn’t just that but a class that contains methods, size and also the pointer to the first character

And the c_str method returns the pointer to the first character as an unchangeable area

a constant pointer

[south rune]

thx bro now i got it

[viscid raft]

Yw

[plucky pike]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-computer-typing-fast-gif-5368357

[violet solar]

guys who can help me? i am 14 years. I have been studying English only for 6 months and maybe i have mistakes in my sentences, so i am sorry, i also have been learning Javascript for 3 months, i like it and i wanted to get IT job in the future but a lot of people say that these IT jobs won't be actually in the future, and i don't know what to do. Should I continue to learn Javascript or not? i have to get your advises

[quaint meteor]

Yes you should of course, it's best what you can do now to future.

[violet solar]

thank you bro, i will try

[south rune]

For me it is not supposed to start with js
u should first be established in a strong language like C, C++, java, C#.
but don't worry u can learn it now

As for the idea that there will be no programmers in the future, this is nonsense
simply cuz programmers are the ones who created ai
there is a lot of talk on this topic

[mighty robin]

a lot of fake news recently

and if you want to work in IT, you can do that

any programming language is good if you understand it well, because you can transfer your skills from it to other ones

and even the knowledge of programming itself, in any language, is useful for other IT jobs, testers who know how software is made are more valuable than testers who dont

or security staff, who knows how to code, is more useful, because they understand exploits, errors, vulnerabilities, etc, way better

even system admins, who can code, are better, because they can understand the system apps way better, or just any tech position is way better for someone who knows how stuff works

Depends on the country ofc, but if you are 14 years old, and wanna start, then do that and dont even care about any fake news or people who demotivate you

if your tech gets obsolete somehow, then so it happens, your skills are not gonna be wasted, because tech skills are often transferring from one position to another

[hexed forge]

Hi everyone ! I'm new here and i am a 37 years old IT student 😆

[south rune]

it's ok

[gusty crest]

we need several people for remote work.
the bottom line is this, you will need to advertise our crypto exchange, for each participant, we will pay $ 100
everything is transparent
If you are interested, Dm please

[wise forge]

Hmm very suspicious 🤨

[wise forge]

Nah bro don't listen to these guys from here. your cousin is right chat gpt will kill us all, you might as well give up now while you still can

[gusty crest]

Of course, you should continue to learn Javascript.

GPT is only AI and you are person. It is different between person and AI.

[shy glade]

daily article is ready
https://denizhalil.com/2023/11/29/networksherlock-port-scanning/

[dense roost]

nice website

[dapper sinew]

Do you have a roadmap for learning React?

[violet solar]

thank you guys, a have read all your advises and i have decided continue to learn programming language

[shy glade]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1173288311020855387/1179482022104813668/16r7sfsnxHg6RvaS9be_ocQ.png?ex=6579f13b&is=65677c3b&hm=8958f1f260cd7c3c93d9b214812cc668d5d78b816ba00be63fd1020aebeb6795&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=818&height=670

[shy glade]

/rank

[south rune]

Guys I'm really confused, what should I choose macbook m1 air with a monitor or pc with CPU i5 13400f

[shy glade]

macbook

[mighty robin]

pc, install linux on it afterwards

[south rune]

I just can using Linux on an old laptop and don't need to buy a PC for that

[south rune]

can u tell me why

that cpu can run games?

[shy glade]

it is decent yes it can run games depending on which one you mean

but for coding

macbook

so easy to bring it to place

just put it in ur bag

and it’s lightweight

but if you are gonna be home

pc

[pure copper]

I tried the 'old pc' trick, and if you are serious about computing, you need to give the Linux OS a good machine also, as it will be just as unusable as a new Windows machine.

[shy glade]

Hey there I'm a newbie in AI and both software and hardware engineering which is the perfect place to learn Firmware (Both Hardware and software combined)

Any Youtube channels, Websites?

And also Cloud computing and Quantum computing as well

[shy glade]

apt:
https://denizhalil.com/2023/11/30/linux-apt-apt-get-cheat-sheet/

[mighty robin]

depends on the distro, modern distros like linux mint cinammon, or ubuntu with their normal version, will take a lot, true

but distros like linux mint xfce, or lubuntu, are way lighter, i run linux mint xfce daily

ofc they are limited when it comes to the customization

[pure copper]

So do i

I suppose i should be happy. Running Linux, with current machine memory and cpus, even if 20 years old could easily handle 1024 terminals with command line, on a serial mux.

Mmm 1024 x vt100

[mighty robin]

my laptop am using is like 5 years old already, not that much, but still it had been used a lot before

it used to run windows

[pure copper]

Mine is 12 years old

[mighty robin]

and guess what, windows 10 on it was so laggy, so bloated, that i barely used it, i couldnt handle constant lags

[pure copper]

Want to throw it out the window

[mighty robin]

i have one like this too but its battery and some other part are already destroyed so i cant even run linux on that

[pure copper]

Linux does start in a minute compared to 15 minutes for win 10 of the dual boot.

[mighty robin]

corporate hell

of microsoft

[pure copper]

And it wants to upgrade every week if not every time i start Windows

[mighty robin]

people who i tell about linux call me a conspiracy theorist

bruh

[pure copper]

I find most people are now so watered down with the modern marketing, they don't even know what we are talking about, so couldn't call it a conspiracy. It's like the aliens talking to the cave men.

[mighty robin]

just tried to sign into microsoft teams

with a web browser on linux

apparently microsoft doesnt like some of brave browser's settings

[pure copper]

Oh that's sad

[mighty robin]

thats good i hate them too, they dont have to show me they hate me

lmfao

[pure copper]

Makes me want to euthanize

It's like everyone telling me I'm not allowed to use ad blockers

Cause what i do with data they send and decide to display on my screen is their business

[mighty robin]

i turned off all settings which blocked third-party cookies and fingerprinting

guess what, now microsoft teams works

[mighty robin]

yeah

I gotta use that teams crap tho

because my organization forces it upon me, they cant use anything else

[pure copper]

Use it on a machine provided by your company

[mighty robin]

web browser version seems to work

[pure copper]

It just needs to save some data so it knows who you are each time..

[mighty robin]

microsoft teams thinking they can get my camera

surprise, i have it taped up

physically

lmfao

[pure copper]

That's what the slider switch at bottom is for

[mighty robin]

idk i just come from a point of view where every feature microsoft has can be potentially a spyware tool

[pure copper]

At least they admit it. But secretly what they don't tell you, is that when you have your camera on and mic on, they are not watching or listening.

[mighty robin]

life is like matrix

when you use all social media and major companies products, you think everything is great

but when you look under the hood of every of that, you realize they are lying and many of their products are poor quality

[pure copper]

The play store and itunestore are just kids with plenty of hack thrown in. Unless you write your own phone apps, you are just laying down belly up to get kicked in the gut by every person that lists their app.

Well 🛏️ ciao for now

[wise forge]

Well that was interesting

I mean seriously, we'll know that our electric devices can hear and see us, at this point is not a conspiracy theory anymore, but where is all this data I mean it must have a lot of data I believe they don't store this data, not permanently at least

[mighty robin]

yup

[mighty robin]

huge companies have a lot of storage on their servers

they can afford the most spacious disks in the world

and third-party add companies are very happy to purchase some user data for advertising purposes, and so on, thats how facebook makes their money, or google

[wise forge]

I now this lol Facebook makes money cause the user are the product

[mighty robin]

yeah

[wise forge]

But is different use personal information like location preferences etc, but when you talk about an Apple for example recording each second in each of its devices it is a lot of data and very expensive to maintain especially since such amount of data require a very large istruture in real life to store all this doesn't seem lucrative but idk

[mighty robin]

hard to say, of course

but am sure they can find a way of managing this, if not permanently, then at least for some time

or at least data of some people

[wise forge]

Yes I suppose you are right

[mighty robin]

people call me old-fashioned, because i do not use products like instagram, facebook, tiktok, snapchat, or any of those except for discord, am eighteen years old, and honestly it is terrifying how normalized selling personal info has become

[wise forge]

But idk maybe Zuckerberg knows how to compress it all in one way that make it affordable

[wise forge]

I understand you fr

I can't do the same though

[mighty robin]

i have a facebook acount, no profile photo, no location, no real date of birth, no nothing, just to be able to communicate with friends who use this

i dont even use that, only to answer them

[wise forge]

But it's true is anoyn the way that the user is treated as the product, and we can't do shit for example in YouTube even if play premium you will see ads inside the videos Netflix you see hidden ads too it is annoying

[wise forge]

But if you use it on your smartphone its very easy to fetch your data still

[mighty robin]

i have messenger app from fb on my phone, not facebook app itself

but yes true

[mighty robin]

the youtube i actually dont have on my phone

found a way around it

if you use brave browser

on android, at least, then youve got built in adblock, and youtube.com cant display ads

same for brave browser on linux

this forces you to use youtube as the web app, but there are no ads, sooo yeah

[wise forge]

I didn't know that

Even after they block the ads bockers?

[mighty robin]

yeah

idk how brave does this, but they have it built-in, their browser is open source so technically someone could check this

[wise forge]

I will take a look some day

But still

The youtubers make they oun ads too lol

[mighty robin]

dystopian world we live in

one's gotta just find a way to survive in that and dont lose their mind

[wise forge]

Lol

I don't even try anymore

I think that's the only way to live in peace

[mighty robin]

good way is to just, not attack anyone i think

avoid online debates

real life ones too

ignore everything and everyone

"debates" as arguments tbh

[wise forge]

Well it seems a bit too far lol

[mighty robin]

cats do that

[wise forge]

I mean when you debate on the internet you are just telling the app what you believe and what not

[mighty robin]

yeah i meant like hmm roasting people online

about politics or somethinh

g

or maybe about war

[wise forge]

But they are cute so they can

[wise forge]

Yes

[mighty robin]

some girls can too, thats called sugar baby

[wise forge]

So the app will show you exactly what you want or in other cases what you don't want to hear

[mighty robin]

oh yeah

i gotta sleep anyway

bye bye

[wise forge]

Bye

[wise forge]

If I was a girl I probably would be anyway

[mighty robin]

would suck to know the guy wants your body and doesnt give a damn about you as you

[wise forge]

Boohoo

[restive knoll]

Looking for appoinements setters comission based for web and app development agency

[wise forge]

sounds fancy whatever it is

[restive knoll]

if you interested dm me I'll explain

[vital gorge]

I love coding.

Coding is like composing a song.

It is a delicate art, a pure discipline, and a vibrant fire.

[cinder niche]

hi

I am crazy about coding

[vital gorge]

Why crazy?

[cinder niche]

I love coding too

[earnest fractal]

Hello, any online tech community where you can find people to collaborate with on a code project for learning purpose ? there is paid platform named Chingu but would like to know more options, thanks.

[pure copper]

any browser with adblock will stop youtube ads. (firefox, opera). Just dont use the app.

Cant stop embedded ads in the content

A quick calc of simple 5sec=100k for voice recording, gives me 603gb of continuous recording per person per year. That's 60tb /person over 100years. That's prob $1000 in disk cost these days. And will be trivial in 10 years.

[pure copper]

Thought I pressed enter on this, this morning, but it never made ity until now.

[wise forge]

It depends on the technology you work with brother, google it shouldn't be hard I suppose

[dull vector]

hi there. have anyone worked with building microservices and deploying it in cloud or vps server (interesting configuration like docker, nginx, broker message, configuration environment for development and etc)? it's also actually for microfrontends (aka microservices but for frontend), but last one in more prefer

[earnest fractal]

Thanks, before I wrote the message I already googled with keywords like find collaborator code project for learning purpose or involve in a code project or side project code together ...etc , I knew that different technology may have different community (e.g. identified by specific language) , so I already joined these community to see how to interact with people there . My original question is more about (casual) open chatting to see anyone knows different options / platform, it is also ok if nobody knows any option .

[random rain]

I am a senior MERN stack developer with over 7 years of experience.

If there is something else I can help, please feel free to message me.

[pure copper]

Happy to chat here

[unborn hill]

I have been working with java by 20 years...

[random rain]

I am a frontend developer, I'd like to cooperate with you to get a fantastic job for our business.

[lean sandal]

Hello everyone, I am a software developer. I'd like to improve my English language skills. What do you do in this channel ? Do you have regular speaking sessions or about software?

[wise forge]

Poor soul

[wise forge]

Welcome

[lean sandal]

Thanks a lot

[pure copper]

I have had a couple of events, but nothing formal or regular. If you want to have a common grip chat or meeting, the is a make your own channel function below,. Just mention it here in advance or ping people.

[uncut rapids]

PHP is dead

just kidding

I don't even know PHP

[earnest fractal]

Thanks , good to hear you , currently I've been collaborating with another frontend developer on a web app for learning tech skills and improving my portfolio (also for landing a dev job), allow me to describe the project below to see whether you are also interested .

[earnest fractal]

Hi , currently I've been collaborating with another frontend developer on a web game project (see the GitHub codebase for detail), written in TypeScript (frontend) and Python (backend, I am doing this part) .

• currently, 2 core maintainers there
• we do the project for building tech portfolio in our SWE / SDE career, because we'd like to learn more (or go deep if possible) in some technologies.
• you can communicate with us in English, by writing comments in the Github repo (preferred) , or doing voice chatting in DIscord Server (if necessary)
• if anyone is interested to learn similar tech stack, code specific feature(s) together, please feel free to leave comments in the GItHub Discussion there

Thanks
(if the post is considered as a spam please let me know, I can edit that, please don't ban me😄 )

[onyx tulip]

https://github.com/juhaku/utoipa/pull/813

[uneven widget]

Hello everyone, I have a question about 3D in Java. I need a program to show a 3D model, which is a panel with buttons, a screen and toggle switches. When you click on a button or toggle switch, the corresponding animation with this model is played. Is it possible that I downloaded this model from Blender with the appropriate animations, then when I click on a button, one of the animations is played?
Is it possible to transfer materials and textures from Blender and have it work in the animation?
If so, what is the easiest way to do it?
Is there an option to download the model in .obj format and use the contents of that file to animate individual objects (buttons, screen, etc.)?

[rustic frigate]

Hi everyone! Does anyone know a proper way to configure logging in microservices on k8s cluster? I have 4 deployments for each API and I want to have like a dashboard for them, so I can filter them by level or date + sending notifications on error messages would be a nice option either.

[wind sleet]

.

[abstract flicker]

Hello , is there Any NLP | machine learning enthusiast here ?

[cedar valve]

What's MLP?

NLP

[abstract flicker]

Abbreviation for Natural language processing .

for instance , it is used in chatbots building .

[shy glade]

hello there is my youtube channel(https://youtube.com/@ghost-coding?si=OhbkfLUAs_T4_4ww) and I want to earn money by upload content about coding, is anyone can help me?

[short basin]

Oh f

I uhhh

Send wrong channel

😭😭😭😭😭

Sr guyyyyyys

[pure copper]

That's what 'edit' is for

[shy glade]

https://denizhalil.com/2023/12/02/macmaster-network-interface-management/

[red ember]

Hi

[shy glade]

hello

[shy glade]

Hi

[surreal jolt]

Hii!

[dull vector]

It looks like dead chat, oh, so sad

[gritty sedge]

Yep

[pure copper]

hi

[pure copper]

yes indeed

🛏️

[gritty sedge]

Hi

[neon bramble]

Hello

[frosty fiber]

hi

[onyx tulip]

I contributed utoipa (for generating openapi docs in rust), gleam programming language & alpaca which is a wip alpaca api client this week. And i also became maintainer of tokio-rusqlite and axum-server which is a crate used by 1.2k+ os projects

Relatively good productive week

Now i understand why people don't wanna refactor gleam compiler's source code

[wise forge]

Not bad

[stiff barn]

Hi

[shy glade]

https://denizhalil.com/2023/12/06/kali-linux-2023-4-release-highlights/

[restive knoll]

Greate Idea

[restive knoll]

I wanma contribute

[mighty robin]

i am worried that this solution might be too easy to solve for the client, in case they can access and edit the files too and they may have someone who knows how computers work well enough to find the lines of the code by searching for keywords such as "days_deadline" or even "opacity" keyword in the CSS property itself

the solution could be to not name the variables clearly, or somehow do that without opacity property, but thats all kinda unclear

well, regardless of what we could do, we shouldnt use var variable declarations as in the screenshot, const and let exist for a reason

[neat pewter]

It's just a memed suggestion bruh 😂 it would take extra effort to pull this trick out, but I'll try that someday

[mighty robin]

lmao

[azure mountain]

hello

[orchid gate]

my computer turns off when unplugged what's the prplm how can i fix it

[pure copper]

Is probably the flux capacitor.

[crystal sandal]

That's a battery problem

[orchid gate]

the computer says the problem is with the power charger, but it is fine i don't know why it says that

[shy glade]

I want to make a AI

This AI possesses the ability to anticipate future events with an accuracy ranging from 60% to 65%.

Can anyone can tell me How it's work?

(Note: It's not a Joke thats really happen.)

[pure copper]

Seriously, if it's a laptop, change your power settings to hibernate when lid is closed, rather than sleep.

[pure copper]

I see a bright future. This i am certain of. Launch a public company IPO with this in your prospectus. Aim for around $100 million+ with the float. Then start hiringv the team. Remember $100m will pay for 100 staff for about 5 years, so don't forget to get something on the market within 2 years to ensure capital growth, to keep development up and running.

Don't forget to send me 1000 shares for my initial input here. Thanks.

[shy glade]

yeah! I started working on It today. Thanks for inspiring me.

[pure copper]

First, please describe what you think a computer is used for. Describe this in the most generic way you can.

Then describe 5 unique uses of computers

[random palm]

Hello, im new here. I'm looking for a remote work with 1 year experienced, is there any tips for me to start? my english is only on beginner level

[chilly wyvern]

Set up your LinkedIn, make it look professional. Also, polish your portfolio and start applying for jobs. If you use GitHub, stay active there uploading code everyday. Apply for 15 jobs minimum per week.

[random palm]

should I create a presentable portofolio outside my project in Github (code based portofolio)?

[orchid gate]

is there a youtube video that shows how to do it

[chilly wyvern]

Yes a professional portfolio where you feature some of your projects, 3 at least

[random palm]

Alright, thanks for the advice! by the way I’m a Flutter developer. Nice to have cross country friends!

[restive dawn]

hey i got a question for web devs

[pure copper]

https://www.digitalcitizen.life/hibernate-windows10/

[autumn tangle]

https://blog.m0n0.site/

new project
AI automated 🙂

u can ignore squigly looking images

[autumn tangle]

@subtle thunder my hobby project if that looks fun to you

[subtle thunder]

I'll check it out

[manic turtle]

hi everyone

[mighty robin]

dont neglect your github, if the company really is professional and there is some dev looking at stuff, then they will look at the github activity and so on

although... not necessarily, sometimes they just send and gather all that in human resources, and no one even looks at github, but eventually if they were to choose somebody in some other stage of elimination, then that could give you some additional advantage i guess

if you could maybe somehow be very clear about what you can practically do, present it in some big project, then very briefly list the principles/tech/features of the language/framework you know, then id imagine it could be pretty nice

they often dont even have time to look at every project and stuff, sooo its better to make this simple and very clear

those are the things ive been told myself

[earnest knot]

guys learn php or node js

[marble condor]

depends on what you want to work on and what market you are aiming for.
also node.js is a run time environment, it's a tool not a language. for php however is a programming language

[spare geyser]

whos good at react native? i got a question

[pure copper]

ok. I shall. Thanks for the advice.👍

Hey folks. I think I will post this every couple of days, but , Don't ask people if they know something, because you want to ask a question. Just ask the question.

Its almost like a bad program

[restive knoll]

there have any Strapi CMS developer/experince with strapi?

[pure copper]

Another meta question 🧜‍♀️ ☠️

[pliant echo]

Someone wants to talk about IT? I'm .net Dev and I want to improve my English so, of someone has the same interest it's would be nice

[stoic shard]

@pliant echo I am here.

[stoic shard]

Are you there?
I am IT developer.

[pliant echo]

Yah I'm here.. what is your stack?

[stoic shard]

I am javascript and typescript. and you?

[stoic shard]

where do you live in?

[pliant echo]

I'm .net developer but I have some knowledge with JavaScript. Most of all on front end manipulating DOM

I have some projects in node.js too but not a big deal

[pliant echo]

I'm from Portugal and you?

[stoic shard]

ok. I have a 8 years of experience the nodejs, reactjs, graphql and so on.

And I am serbia

Nice to meet you.

How many years about your skill?

[pliant echo]

It's a lot experience

Comgrats

[stoic shard]

thanks.

[pliant echo]

I have 2 years experience but I'm currently work on small company (family company) and I feel like I'm not learning so mutch as I would like so, I'm trying to change to another one

[stoic shard]

how much is your salary?

[pliant echo]

But it's been a quite difficult because I think I miss some important things like design patterns, and other things

[pliant echo]

1700€ gross/month

I'm not so worried about salary right now. Obviously it's important but my real motivation is my professional progress the rest comes with the time I think

[stoic shard]

oh. you are wonderful.

do you have a family?

[pliant echo]

Yes I have I'm marriage, but I don't have kids 🤣

And you

[stoic shard]

I have a kid.

how old are you?

[pliant echo]

I'm thirty (30) it's well written? 🤣

[stoic shard]

yeah . I understand. I am 31 years old.

could you speak about your company?

[pliant echo]

It's a small company we are 10 Devs I'm the only one who works with .net the other ones work with Outsystems so I don't have a significant progress there and I'm trying to change but it's not so easy as I thought

It seems like they looking for persons who already know everything

[stoic shard]

can you speak your company name?

What do you want to job?

[pliant echo]

It's ToolIT

[stoic shard]

sorry. I don't understand. what do you mean?

[pliant echo]

I would like to work with .net because I'm more comfortable with. But I don't mind to learn another stack

[stoic shard]

yeah. can we be friend?

[pliant echo]

I consider myself a dedicated and interested person I'm always trying learn new things but alone it's not easy

[pliant echo]

Yes of course

In what kind of projects do you work with?

[stoic shard]

I am web and web3 developer.

[pliant echo]

You work with micro services ?

[stoic shard]

no. I am creating a web site for my client.

and I was send you DM

[pliant echo]

You work as freelancer?

[stoic shard]

yes.

[vapid jewel]

Hi

Are you guys a programmer?

[mighty robin]

money is money, most important is to get more experience and skills

with the time, more money can come

[pliant echo]

Yah I think like that too that's why I'm trying to move on

[mighty robin]

my opinion kinda doesnt matter since am not even entry level yet, more of a hoobist for now, buuut yeah thats my view

[mighty robin]

two grand euro per month is quite good for my country tbh

but id imagine that you may be from germany or something, then that wouldnt be so good i suppose

[lunar steppe]

Hi guys, how's it going?

[pliant echo]

I'm from Portugal

[lunar steppe]

I'm a software engineer student any advice?

[mighty robin]

ah i see, am from Poland

[lunar steppe]

Cristiano Ronaldo

[lunar steppe]

Robert Lewandowski

[mighty robin]

oh yeah he plays quite well

[lunar steppe]

One of the best in the world

How old are you guys?

[pliant echo]

Everybody says that when I tell I'm from Portugal 🤣

[pliant echo]

I'm 30

[lunar steppe]

Haha because is a legend of your country

[lunar steppe]

Wow, and you're a senior programmer?

[pliant echo]

I'm not a senior I'm junior in .net stack yet

[mighty robin]

have you done computer science or youre one of the people who got into IT without degrees

[lunar steppe]

wow

[pliant echo]

Yeah I have I'm a software engineer

[lunar steppe]

any advice for a student in that career bro?

[mighty robin]

i see i see, am sometimes stressing about landing a job without CS degree, this is possible in my country, but still its kinda making me a bit uneasy

[pliant echo]

I've finished my degree in 2022 so after that I've started on small company and now I'm looking for another job

[lunar steppe]

You're working in a home office mode, or hybrid or total in office?

[pliant echo]

The best hit I can give you is learn about design patterns, POO, and of course some ORM

[pliant echo]

I'm currently work on the office

[pliant echo]

Do you work on IT?

[lunar steppe]

Thanks man, I'll write that down

[mighty robin]

no, i am not good enough for this, am still learning to program properly in javascript and its frameworks, and i have so far sold only one website to one person but thats not a job

[lunar steppe]

the dream of each latin american programmer or a programmer that live in latin America is to have a job on Home office mode in a foreign company and earn money in dollar or euros haha

[mighty robin]

quite normal, everyone would like to earn more

no matter the country

[lunar steppe]

That's true

[hallow nimbus]

SIIIIIUUUUUU

[pliant echo]

SIIIIMMMM

[hallow nimbus]

Be proud your a Portuguese

Nice to meet you g

[pliant echo]

Why should I be proud to be Portuguese?

[shy glade]

SIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[mighty robin]

no idea, but i know one udemy frontend web dev instructor who moved from germany to portugal, because he loved your country so much

Jonas Schmedtmann, if anyone knows his content, btw

[maiden rover]

Hello everyone

[weary portal]

hello everyone

is anyone who is .net developer

[hushed slate]

Yo Sup guys

[pure copper]

Just finished a 2 year project. Staring at the ceiling with a sense of, what do i do now.

A short feeling of it's not going to work as i walked away after handover. A couple of 30 minute returns for help, but now I'm sure I've got to move on.

Now I'm mad and depressed cause ytube is beating me up for ad blocker. Another barrier to over comes. More unnecessary inconvenience. They steal everyone's videos and then force their ads. Just an ongoing battle for the free world.

[lament charm]

Hello everyone

[pure copper]

Hello

[pliant echo]

Hello Im .NET Dev

[pulsar folio]

Hello beings of the highest light

I want to apply to Google, but I’m afraid that the interviews will give me a very difficult task

Who has already had experience, could you share?

[boreal garnet]

Hello.

[wind swift]

hi

i use C#

for miniprojects

[mighty robin]

well sure u can apply

but google doesnt hire random people

there are hundreds of leetcode tasks only for their interviews

[still harbor]

hi everyone

[daring bridge]

hello there

[pure copper]

Don't go into the interview trying to sell yourself as a coder. They want thinkers and people who are able to fit in to the holes in their business and projects. Sure your flexibility, willingness to try be things and different roles. Most importantly be passionate about "information" and technology and be confident.

Read about the company, people and projects and get a feel for the business. They want you to be a part of an organization that is building an integrated world. That is the key.

How will you fit into that picture?

[crystal grove]

where are the brogrammers at??

[shrewd light]

Hi

[torpid nexus]

Hi

[agile lynx]

Que mira bobo¿

[shy glade]

when they realize that u have something important in ur brain they use everything to take it no matter how and they dont care about ur privacy too my experience,
if u have something dont talk about it until u do something with it or they will

[pure copper]

A very important point for all here, to remember, regardless of your employer. Over your life you will come up with ideas that actually are unique and have not been thought of yet. Typically they related to your profession, which is your passion and potentially also your hobby. As you read, collect info, tinker with junk, and just generally live, you will come up with ideas. Companies will claim in their employment contracts that anything you discover or think of while on the job, belongs to them, and they will take that idea from you if they can, and exploit it with little or no reward to you.

If you ever find yourself in this situation, never discuss it with anyone from your business. Even your best friends. Actually don't discuss it with anyone. Hold onto those ideas until you can decide to do something with it yourself. That can be either start building it yourself, or patent the idea (speak to a patent lawyer... And be cautious with them as well). Never enter any ideas into internal corporate 'ideas' competitions, as they are often the sort of things that may seem trivial at the time, but are worth vast amounts as a design that can save money for a business, or make money for a business, and that idea should be sold to the world by you, not an employer that pays you little and expects you to hand over anything and everything you can think of, regardless of whether it was on company time or not.

Patent law is one of the most useful and also counter productive thing devised on this planet.

[shy glade]

doese patent law work for programmers ?

[mighty robin]

i bet it does, in my country it does

not sure about other countries tho

[pure copper]

Yes. Think of the wars between Samsung and Apple, regarding little things like fading colours or dark mode vs light mode, or round corners on s screen verse square corners, or icons with words or no words. Everything you see in the phone interfaces is carefully fought over, and they are trivial design differences. For decades companies have battles with each other, saying something that was inserted into coffee, was stolen from some other product. The reality is if one of the bigger companies likes an idea, they will put money into either buying it for a' trivial sum' relative to its worth, or cousin it was stolen from them, and while you out through legal costs. Even if it is your genuine unique idea. For many programmer that join the open source licenses, it's about fighting patents, and ensures that if it's a real idea that can help mankind, it can be attributed to you. That is the important legacy you can leave the world.

It will be hard for you to finance the development of some ideas as they will be too insignificant on their own, but can benefit one company or many people . That is the decision you will need to make. Even if you do parent an idea, it costs a large amount, money that needs to be spent across the world (it applies in a country by country basis) and even with a parent, will still be covering used and inserted into products of big businesses, cause they know, it's easier to to that and claim you stole it from them, than for you to fight them. That is also the case for certain larger countries that don't abide by international laws or act ethically.

(other examples... Basic finger swipe input. Tinder swipe left swipe right selecting/rejection) they are all worth higher amounts of money, and if you use these features in your programs without permission or license, you can be sued.

[mighty robin]

what did linus torvalds do? he created linux, and then what did google, microsoft, apple, and everyone else do? use his product for free and spend less money on abusing rights of their users, linux runs on their servers, while they use those servers to store stolen user data

so even though i like open source ideology and i myself use it a lot, id probably never open source fully, because people are bad inherently, they are thieves and leeches

i lost all faith in this society and corporations long time ago, people dont have morality anymore, so i guess no reason to trust them so much

[pure copper]

Indeed, that's why i said it's a big decision to be made on how to protect one's IP.

[shy glade]

https://denizhalil.com/2023/12/11/firefox-addons-penetration-testing/

[hot hedge]

hello

jjn

[worldly loom]

Hello ,is anybody here ? 🙄

#include<iostream>

using namespace std;

int main(){

cout <<"Hello guys" << endl;

}

[daring nexus]

hello mate

[worldly loom]

Hello

are you a Developer

[worldly loom]

.

[daring nexus]

nah

[worldly loom]

then why are you chatting here 😂

is it some kind of discord trend

[daring nexus]

yeah
are you a writer

[worldly loom]

I can see your next move , I was just joking

[daring nexus]

lol

can we talk better?

[worldly loom]

why not

what should we talk about ?

[worldly loom]

.

[daring nexus]

can we talk better

[shy glade]

any react devs here

[ocean ore]

Hi guys, anyone here learning game development?

[light granite]

I'm react dev

why?

[cobalt acorn]

I do create some, for fun (but i’m web dev)

[cobalt acorn]

here

[native flax]

Is there anyone who's living in US?

[native flax]

Yes, I am, what happened?

[native flax]

I'm an expert, not learner, what are you gonna do?

[viscid raft]

Do u develop with C?

[mortal breach]

hello everyone

I'm ZAKA-6X and I'm ready to get knew experience and have new friends

[mortal eagle]

developing games with c doesn't sound fun

[shy glade]

another dragon

[lunar spindle]

hi guys, anyone here learn golang?

[pure copper]

If you think developing a game in C is not fun, then you will hate developing anything else.

[mortal eagle]

i'm rather talking about 3d or complex 2d games, that require a game engine. i would like to develop a game like tic tac toe in c, but definitelly not something more complex

[pure copper]

great. Someone who would like to develop a game with a scope that is achievable in a lifetime, if not a week or a few.

I don't see game engines as programming, rather just configuring an application that is already coded.

Sure they're complex, but all the fun was in writing the engine, and the language that drives it

[mighty robin]

i think like this and i dont hate developing anything else (but not in C)

[viscid raft]

It is fun

[pure copper]

Trying to understand this response it's like trying to determine the logic of a poorly nested if statement. What part of my statement is represented by you're use of the word 'this'?

[acoustic mountain]

what languages should I learn when I want to be a web developer, specifically to design websites and build them?

[lunar wraith]

Does anyone know Ros2?

[mighty robin]

lmao you are right about me making it quite weird

i meant that i do not like C and i would not like to develop any game in it

while i like to code in different languages

[brazen ether]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97NCKoDni40
Please watch this video

[solid trout]

Hello everyone, I am planning to learn programming but first I want to learn from beginning. How should my roadmap be? How should I make progress? Can anyone help? And is there anybody would help me when I have question?

[night terrace]

You can find a roadmap for any language on Github

What programming language are you gonna learn?

[solid trout]

I am beginner in Python but everyone say that I should learn C or C++ for algorithms and data types like bubble sort, graph, 2D,3D lists

Especially people say that C or C++ is best for learning logic of algorithms

[gloomy meteor]

yeah they are right, you should start learning c++

[night terrace]

Because C++ is a very complex language. Maybe you don't need it.

[gloomy meteor]

no, he should learn it

Because he wouldn't learn real programming without it

[night terrace]

Maybe he doesn't need it. You don't have to learn C++. Why are you scaring beginners

[gloomy meteor]

he doesn't need it in his career that's right, but he need it for improving his skills

in my opinion, he must start with it, because Python is so easy and this is not a good start in programming

[pure copper]

Learning the basics of programming would be best started without the OO components. Unfortunately all the non OO languages are difficult to find these days. C is therefore ideal as it has all the features needed to a comprehensive journey into systems programming whilst providing the fundamental elements needed to code multitudes of algorithms. OO can then be added onto with C++ a little down the way with minimal stress. Following the acquisition of some basic programming skills, and some development of stand alone applications, one can move into some data storage or database work, and then finally adding text formatting languages like html and thin client work.

[dull vector]

Don't listen to everyone, learn what you like. If you will know 1 programming language, then something else will be easy for learning. Languages are similar to each other in basic. Algorithms, computer science, etc are important, but you can learn it later, so become a professional in one

[mighty robin]

thats a great theory but id say most mortals would rather start simple, like from html, i personally did

it kinda showed me what coding is, before the real programming part began

made me realize how to think properly, like average humans dont really have too sharp problem solving skills, or generally they kinda cant think as programmers do, because in code the mindset is you are analyzing the problems (which is unusual cuz irl people like to escape from the problems, not analyze them)

[pliant echo]

Any .NET Developer who wants to talk English?

[pure copper]

When i was little, i started programming using fortran. The whole idea of getting a computer to solve a problem was what gave computer folk the pain to work with computers. Later when i was rummaging threw the system applications, i came across a few orgasms that formatted your text. They asked bolding, italics, headers future etc. It was a fancy little set of character markers that were placed around the word in a text file to make it pretty. Then it ran the text file through that stem program and it turns straight ascii letters into wonderful fancy text like i would see in books. Basically it was html. But it was invented in the 1950s.

I only ever treated it as weird purchasing, the stuff secretaries did to make their bosses documents pretty. The real work was in writing code. Then long time later in the 1990s wwe came along and published fancy looking pretty pages in browsers. It used html to make these pretty documents. It was still just document formatting. But not programming. I pretty much see the end of real programming as the people were all trying to write pure html. Xml d Strong in the 80s and similarly was only for the output and for file transfer interfaces. But never really treated as organizing. Programs were written to produce html or xml, but presents didn't actually write using them. They were just ways to get pretty output from the programs that did the work and which we used to solve problems. They used languages such as c, fortran, cobol, pascal, Ada, modula 2, algol, snobol, basic and they were all extended with lots of nice features as they moved from 3gls to 4gls to 5gl, then the world stopped and the new kids on the block thought html was a new coding language, when really the secretaries had been using it for 40 years. That was a sad day in the coding world.

[mighty robin]

i guess am the new kid then

lmao

C and all those low level languages are surely more difficult and more "serious", since theyve been around like forever and they are the backbone of the systems, not only software, but idk for me theyre not my kink as I can just write javascript which is the new rich cool kid in the neighbourhoid

and yeah youve got the point, you sound like someone very experienced, unlike me, but most modern programmers dont think like you, they just wanna do cool stuff that works and thats usually python or web dev

let alone non-IT people, who really think that paying a bit for some generated website like from wordpress is a good idea, while thats bloated to a point when even the html itself is bloated, css too, bloated with absolutely useless code repetition, not to mention js written in jquery which is full of vulnerabilities and shouldnt even be used anymore

[pure copper]

We all want to do the cool stuff or bleeding edge stuff. It's just different as time progresses . In 40 years you'll be talking about how people used to write web pages using things called "computers" that you had on a desk or carried in your hand. There new kids will laugh at you and say tell us some more if these funny stories.

[mighty robin]

well i hope we dont kill each other till that time

and seeing how people now are, am afraid prostitution, drug abuse, and all that will go even more... rampant, idk if this a correct adjective here

[pure copper]

The bots will

Prostitution is a dying activity with bots taking over

Dig up the old movie 'sleeper' from the early 70s with Woody Allen. It tells of the future.

Prob on ytube

[mighty robin]

I will tomorrow

[crystal grove]

where the brogrammers at?

[shy glade]

eyo

[shy glade]

https://denizhalil.com/2023/12/14/bug-bounty-preparation-tools/

[shy glade]

https://youtu.be/Y9Zw6xOGly0?feature=shared

[shy glade]

bedroom

[shy glade]

https://denizhalil.com/2023/12/15/scapy-network-analysis-security/

[solid trout]

thanks for answers. The next question is 'Where can I learn data types and algorithms professionally?'

[lament thorn]

why the f my brightness gets to max auto, i have unchecked the optimization. still this happens. os windows 11.

[livid dove]

Hello everyone, who here does programming for websites?

[sudden thicket]

halo

[pure copper]

If you check optimize, it should lower the value. Otherwise it would assume you want to use full power to start with.

[pure copper]

Do you know anything about these yet? Surely you have done some reading about this. Even knowing the term data structures means you must be reading about this. I could help if you wish to ask questions.

[pure copper]

Hi

[pure copper]

Almost everyone here appears to do programming for websites. (Except me) the priority i put on the front end of a program did not warrant the need for such pretty pictures. The specialization of front end development as a role initially did not interest me, nor does it now, except that i still feel after 30 years since this became a thing, the 'industry' is still making a lot of annoying crappy human machine interfaces, that waste the end users time. (Discussion for another time)

[barren mica]

@pure copper how do u type so much?

[barren mica]

@pure copper ??

[pure copper]

I use a keyboard

[barren mica]

u tired ?

[barren mica]

ever?

[pure copper]

I passed out earlier due to some probably disease... maybe late covid. Ive been up for a few hours now , and the sun have come up. The birds are chirping and I think I will go back to sleep, as I can feel the "Ive been up all noight feeling' even though I slept for 6 hours accidentally

@barren mica

[pure copper]

But thanks for asking. Why the curiosity?

[shy glade]

https://denizhalil.com/2023/12/16/termux-android-linux-experience/

[mossy horizon]

Hey i have two questions, how much CSS i have to learn to learn a css frame work and does those frameworks makes my life easier with css? if it does is it significant?

[barren mica]

u seems to be really hard working, thanks for ure work, hope ure fine now @pure copper

[lament thorn]

Thanks

[shy glade]

Any programmer here?
Also any Arch Linux user?

[lucid moth]

Is anybody here learning android programming?

[pure copper]

I tried a couple of months ago, but the emulator is too slow for my liking. But I need to continue, I think. But 20 minutes to run hello world is a little slow

[lucid moth]

It's very hard to program with such slow emulator, especially if you're learning. But if you'll decide to continue i can help you. My goal is learn technical(and general) English and practice hard skills

[pure copper]

Your English appears to be quite good presently, but I'm happy to assist in Tech English if you have questions etc. I may take you up on an offer to get a first program written with Android/java or something. Its the 10000 lines of templated OO that turns me off, presently

[vivid quiver]

Hello... does anyone here speak a little Spanish?

[silent sandal]

Need anything?

[silent sandal]

I do

[pure copper]

I prcan sort of program and sort of speak spanish

@vivid quiver

[rose flare]

hello...

[vivid quiver]

O hi

I saw de speak channels but... all people speaks with much experience

And... I do not

[mighty robin]

not so sure, last time i joined some voice channel people spoke without much experience

and without much confidence either

i dont blame them cuz thats english learning server, anything can be expected

[vivid quiver]

haha it´s sure

but, i wanna learn English to know more people

I´m speak well Spanish, I'm native, but search's who want learn for practice

Includes programming, obviously, I'm Javascript and c# Developer

including*

[mighty robin]

i also write javascript, but ive got no time for talking now

it seems there are many js devs on the internet so i hope u meet another one sooner or later

[vivid quiver]

Thanks

[carmine veldt]

Hi is there anybody that could help me with creating a logo and creating a web page thanks in advance

[pure copper]

Just looking at the nostalgic font used in an old sci Fi movie, and remembered that in the old days, there were only cap letters to work with in the screens. I think i will write my next future programs in all caps.

Mmmmmm nice 🧜‍♀️

[stoic linden]

I can implement your web page

[carmine veldt]

Can I dm you

[worn carbon]

yo guys

i have a question

[gloomy meteor]

go ahead

[worn carbon]

i need more explication about linux

[gloomy meteor]

like what ?

[worn carbon]

about how it works

[gloomy meteor]

it is a OS works like other operating systems

actually iam texting you through linux system

[gloomy meteor]

are you an IT student or something ?

[worn carbon]

no im a regular guy

trying to learn

[gloomy meteor]

go search about operating systems

after that

go search about linux

[worn carbon]

yeah i know about operating systems like ios and windows and i think linux

[worn carbon]

i think linux is an operating system who is more secured and safe

and he is also open source right

but the thing is what the purpose of installing this operating systems

system`

[gloomy meteor]

it's depends on what you want

[worn carbon]

like linux contain another browsers and another applications

who are more safe than the regular browsers ?

[gloomy meteor]

it's similar to them u can use any browser on linux

but maybe you are talking about tor browser

[worn carbon]

yeah i think so

[gloomy meteor]

yeah this browser is not like the other browsers

[worn carbon]

im searching about somth safe and secure

[gloomy meteor]

use brave

[worn carbon]

alright , so u suggest that i can or «should» Install linux or keep windows

[gloomy meteor]

can you tell me why do you want to use it?

[worn carbon]

safeness

[shy glade]

do you know any website to learn coding for free

[gloomy meteor]

privacy concern that's cool

[shy glade]

html example

[gloomy meteor]

so if you don't play any games or you can dispensing microsoft applications try Ubuntu is is a good distro

[worn carbon]

alright bro thank you for infos

[inner jacinth]

make dual boot

[shy glade]

Tor browser is better if u want to be safe @worn carbon

[gloomy meteor]

you are right bro but it's not efficient for daily work

[mighty robin]

use brave

pretty much every distro has it in its repositories

= can be easily installed using software manager, no need for command line

[real river]

Oh, long time no see this channel. Damn scammer, Where are my old friends?

[pure copper]

Sometimes all you need to do to learn is just read the manual. Use the features that you read about, when you see a need for them.

[pure copper]

Omg, look what the cat just dragged in. (English idiom)

[real river]

Happy to see you again @pure copper , though your idiom seems to have disagreeable meaning.

[pure copper]

Maybe, speaking of the devil, but we wernt really speaking of the devil actually, so perhaps, just hi. Howzit?

[real river]

your spell checker works incorrectly again. What do you mean "wernt"?😁

[scarlet crest]

I have one question. What is better Linux or Windows?

I want to change Windows on Linux. Is it worth?

[pure copper]

Damn spell checker.. it was good enough for 'weren't'

[pure copper]

Windows was updating so often i had to switch to Linux to get some sleep. I've noticed that Windows 11 is pushing ads, and unwanted control. This should be reason enough.

[scarlet crest]

Thank you

[kindred flare]

I dont want to be that Guy ; But yes I use ARCH btw

[gloomy meteor]

You are a legend

[kindred flare]

I dont think so..

Was it SARCASM??

[gloomy meteor]

No

compliment

[kindred flare]

Using arch is not a big deal. Maybe you are surprised by the fact that I am not toxic like some ARCH USERS

[drowsy delta]

Guys, who has a project to create a 2d platformer on Unity (or are they just a simple toy for me to ask myself in the future)?

[sick light]

🙂

[shy glade]

https://denizhalil.com/2023/12/19/shodan-search-queries-cheat-sheet/

[plush parrot]

Why

[shy glade]

hi i am seeking for a someone are good at css

[mighty robin]

what happened

plus are you using some frameworks or libraries, if yes, then i know only SCSS well

[past cipher]

why

[past cipher]

why

[left stratus]

I'm familiar with it

[buoyant pelican]

hi

i'm Majd from Palestine.. It student also

[shy glade]

None

I am bad at css

[shy glade]

I have troubles in using css

[shy glade]

Would u help me?

[shy glade]

Good for you

[shy glade]

Hi

[past cipher]

what is ur problem?

[spark wyvern]

Hi!!!

[spark wyvern]

I used arch, but once an updating broken all my system I had to go back to Ubuntu.

what do y'all're studying?

[pure copper]

I'm studying the quantum mechanics of genoneucleoidic particles in bio-depleted environments.

[spark wyvern]

It is this a subject of mechanic physics? what is a bio-depleted environment?

[pine bay]

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[pure copper]

Quantum physics, and mars, or the moon are potential examples of bio depleted environments.

[left stratus]

How about an event about programming and coding ?

[torn nebula]

would be a disaster

[mighty robin]

could be hard to organize due to the fact everyone here is on a fundamentally different level and in a different field, there are hobbyists and also senior devs, etc

[delicate turret]

ChatGPT can I think

[pure copper]

I held a 3 hour post discussion on ai last week that went really well. Perhaps the topic just has to be covering tech topics that are not specific to a language or fine coding skills.

Send ideas and i will work on getting something happening.

@left stratus @mighty robin

[shy glade]

Warning: 18++ 😈
||. 19 .||

[shy glade]

https://denizhalil.com/2023/12/21/linux-commands-cheat-sheet/

[kindred flare]

guys i am building my own os

based on LINUX

[pure copper]

That should be fun

[kindred flare]

that really is

messing around the system

building iso

creating scripts

custom tweaks and theme

[ocean dragon]

is the code on github?

[worn carbon]

yo guys

i have a question

[pure copper]

?

[scarlet urchin]

hi guys. is there anyone interested in joining with me to study c# and backend+oop with me on english hub ? i want to improve both my english skill and coding skill

[mighty robin]

my programming skills are too low to talk about OOP