💻｜programming

[pure copper]

Perhaps run it through Google translate, make your own changes first to modify anything you see that is obviously wrong to you, and then post it (or parts you are unsure of) in proof-reading channel or here for additional comments.

[quasi skiff]

Hlo

[noble pollen]

i would say use chatgpt

to translate it

or as peo said

g-translate

[remote escarp]

hi

[pure copper]

Updating my decades old real programmers list, i guess we could add.

Real programmers don't ask chat gpt. They write their own AI and then ask it.

🧜‍♀️

[jagged sandal]

I need to talk with chatgpt about how i can writer my own ai

[remote escarp]

you need to learn deep learning or machine learning

[pure copper]

Download an open source code and modify the prompt to say. "How may i help you Bob?"

@jagged sandal

[plush wagon]

you need to learn Machine learning and Full python bro

[jagged sandal]

I need to ask chatgpt why are they so serious people and don't get jokes)

[jagged sandal]

Hahahah yeah

[vagrant glacier]

hi

[warped haven]

Is there anyone here can open up https://vscode.dev on IOS?! bc I guess it has been blocked after Microsoft released vscode remote server.

[quartz delta]

¿Some professional with experience in programming? I need help.

Preferably in Informatics Engineering / Software Engineering.

[brazen cypress]

Theres any who know node.js? I want some help

[pure copper]

Ping me if you have a non syntax question. I may be able to help generally. I'll say no, if it's out of my mental scope. You have narrowed you request down to the whole field of computing, but I'm always up to a challenge.

[shy glade]

Programmus

Anemoculus

Circaidalus

Carpinus Betulus

Karl Linneus

[pure copper]

Nisi domini frustus

[lament thorn]

are their free tools available on github and are they safe for installation!?

[crystal sphinx]

https://pub.dev/packages/genius_lyrics

a package that friend mine is develpoing and iam contribuing

fell free to open isues and help building

[pure copper]

What are you trying to do?

[plucky jasper]

hi how are you

all

[karmic locust]

Hello everyone,Is anyone interested in cloud and DevOps? Let's become study buddies! 😊..If you're keen to learn and collaborate, drop me a message. We can achieve our goals together!

[warped lagoon]

Hêli

Hi everyone

[warm igloo]

hello

[neat moat]

hi

[queen urchin]

hi

[neat moat]

are you coding sir ?

[queen urchin]

maybe

it can also be called coding

[neat moat]

you are living for code 🤔

C++ or C#

[queen urchin]

ik them but I am not using any of them.

[neat moat]

owh then u using directly binary

[queen urchin]

[neat moat]

I gave up Im not learning to code anymore

[lament thorn]

I was looking for free tools that are useful and productive.
Recently I found a latex gboard dictionary zip file on github, with the help of which, mathematical equations can be typed down easily on a smartphone.

[rose socket]

https://tenor.com/view/iggydr-dr-nick-nick-dr-doctor-gif-19040004

[cyan finch]

What´s up

[somber umbra]

Anyone wanna be friend to c#

[rugged geyser]

Yo
I'm senior programmer
Looking for programmer girl
Hahaha

[shy glade]

but she's not looking for you
she's looking for code solutions

[pure copper]

Html dreaming

[remote escarp]

is anybody here know assmbly language?

[mild stone]

yeah i handle

what's the problem

[remote escarp]

i will learn this so how was it? is harder than other language?

[peak ridge]

Are there java spring developers?

[bitter jay]

In my opinion it is really hard and boring

[spark turtle]

I am good at website development, please ping me when you need my help 🙂

[noble pollen]

or just do s

sleep 3

echo "How many i help you, Bob?"

[noble pollen]

bro maths is done on paper , also, use anki for this stuff

[noble pollen]

yea bro sure

it is most difficult if you do not know your hardware and what you are doing

but if you are good with it

then just learn it

[serene bay]

Hi guy! I need you help for my problem in vscode at maven. If it gonna show like this "Failed to calculate Effective POM. Please check output window 'Maven for Java' for more details." How can I fixed it

[pure copper]

It's circuit level programming. If you know it for your processor chip, then it's just like programming in any other language, but you would not want to write a Battlefield 77 using it. Better to learn it along with c/c++. It's better suited for hardware control systems, or speeding up processing of sections of programs written in 3g or 4g languages.

[shy glade]

Guys do you advice me to learn python ??

[ionic furnace]

What is your purpose for leaning Python?

[long kestrel]

create individual projects

[shy glade]

Making money hahahahhahaha

[long kestrel]

its mine too hahah

[ionic furnace]

So what is your future career? Data scientist?

[shy glade]

I heard that python is for anything , isnt it ?

[ionic furnace]

Yeah, it kind of. But depend on your purpose, you will need to learn different part of it.
If you are into web development, you need to pick up either Django or Flask.
If you want to become data scientist, you better go to college and pick up the necessary Python skill while you at it

[shy glade]

Ohhh , that's a great advice , so if i could learn web development using python , i guess this my purpose of learning it

[shy glade]

Can't i selftaught data scientist ??

[long kestrel]

i'm started learn JS now, has difficult for use async functions and promisses : (

[shy glade]

I heard that JS is good , i really wanted to switch , but i already started in python so i dindn't want to make a confusion

[ionic furnace]

Can't say no, but it is very hard. With data science, programming language is just a tool. You need to have solid foundation in advanced math, data processing, data analyst, etc... All of these can be taught in college. If you want to self-taught, you either spend much more time or get lucky enough to learn an intern job and learn about the career while you at it

[shy glade]

many companies has eligible requirement of masters or P.hd

Thank you guys for these advices

[long kestrel]

yes, better that way

[shy glade]

Thank you bro ❤❤❤

[heavy musk]

I am seeking a Native Speaker who is 20 years of age or older for collaboration. Please direct message me.

[dusky python]

Hello, everyone, I am a unity game developer with over 8 years of experience. who wanna make your own game in a short time? lol. Please feel free to dm me.

[pure copper]

It's basically this. You have a need for some information. This is the output ( report, screen, signal). Then it's some data collected and manipulated to be used on the output. Finally there is the input (keyboard, sensors, signals, form). Work out these areas and you can generate your program. Input can be fancy and with pretty pictures or just a black or white screen with some text fields, or a device such as a controller or sensor. Collect the data, manipulate it and present it. What you use as a language in between doesn't really matter. They all do basically the same thing. It's just a matter of what tools the company you end up working for uses.

[left shell]

Hi!
I`m Software Developer(Frontend, React) with 5+ years of experience. If someone need help or someone has question's please feel free to dm me. I'll help you for free

[modest sky]

Hi @left shell Im trying to DM you but it doesnt coming through, I have some questions so I added you

[left shell]

I accepted it

[inner junco]

Hello. As a software developer, I am trying to improve my English level through this field.

I am looking for my English partner

[pure copper]

I'm always about during the day, to ask questions, and I pop into vc occasionally esp weekends, if you need help with matching tech terms.

[bleak elm]

Hello everyone i am learning code and want to improve my english as well

[fleet zodiac]

hi y'all, im new at learning code
as for right now im beginning to learn Java and i wanted someone to guide me so i dont get lost in the thousand resources which are on the internet
so anyone who want to help feel free to dm me

[queen urchin]

why do you wanna learn it?

[pure copper]

Do you need to learn to program, and you choose java to to this,.... Or do you know how to program and want to learn java?

[pure copper]

Happy to dm, but i try and keep friends list down until i know people for some time.

[shy glade]

hi, I want to do web sites. Where to start from?

[fleet zodiac]

im a computer science student and i want to take seriously this programmation stuff

[queen urchin]

oops, I didn't mean that. Why did you choose Java?

[fleet zodiac]

i am beginner at coding and java is my first language

[pure copper]

A rare response from someone here

[fleet zodiac]

bc its the language we are currently learning in my school and its my first one too

[pure copper]

Happy to help you stay focused on just learning the elements of programming. How advanced are you in learning the language so far?

I am able to keep you in track, because i can start from scratch and describe the elements of the language as you go through it.

[floral pulsar]

Suggest beginner friendly websites or programming practices for JS

[shy glade]

Thanks for these informations !!

[fleet zodiac]

now im into the object oriented stuff
thats where im stuck

[pure copper]

Remember that objects don't help the end user of a program. If they ask, what is 1+1 all they want to see is 2. The problem with OO is sometimes the objects become too complex for the solution. It may be cool as a programmer to define objects such as MyNumber and lots of fancy methods, but sometimes the basic operations are good enough. Remember classes are just for the programmers. You will find libraries that cover practically everything you can think of to drive a machine. The hard part for you is trying to come up with an application that is big enough to warrant creating an internal class library to describe your application. An example might be a dance program, where you need to similar dance moves, so you create people objects and leg objects and arm objects and have methods to move them relative to a dance floor object.

But post your questions on the oo and I'm sure they will be answered here.

[left shell]

https://javascript.info/ - The best site for learning JS. In my opinion

[thick mulch]

how long it will take to learn Javascript. intermediate level , for web dev. ?

[left shell]

it depends on the time

[thick mulch]

I am a beginner . I can edit website using inspect tool more easily rather than from wordpress dashboard. how i can update code from inspect tool permenantly on my website ? web has been made using theme, not coded.

[left shell]

if you wanna to update the code on a particular site, you can't do it through inspection

Permenantly i mean

[thick mulch]

ok

[still harbor]

Hello guys

What is a Hackathon?

[runic flower]

hey there, It's like a marathon but for coding and stuff.

[bright drift]

i‘m in the same case

I've been doing java for over a year now

[still harbor]

Oh nice

[floral zenith]

-hgbguubh```

- yhbibknjj

[boreal magnet]

Yeah

[boreal magnet]

Really

[tawny delta]

how do you do those?

[pure copper]

Use a ` character before and after

[waxen vale]

Any Web Developers here ?

[surreal adder]

Here's

[viscid raft]

You can copy the message and paste it to look its attributes

[shy glade]

hi

[queen urchin]

yo

[plush spade]

hello, world

[shy glade]

Which is the best programming language to learn as a beginner?

Can anyone suggest please?

[tranquil belfry]

JavaScript maybe 👍

[left shell]

here

[vernal wedge]

Hey guys, I am a beginner in programming. Just started learning Python this week.

Any discord channel I can join? For beginners off course.

[plush wagon]

python bro

[shy glade]

Thanks

[bold sinew]

Any channel I can learning programming from scratch please?#

[edgy gust]

any one wanna learn programming with me

[pure copper]

I'm happy to teach the basics of programming from scratch, if you are interested. I can do it in a temp channel here, if we can work out a reasonable time to meet up.

I'm back online in about 8 hours.

[near wolf]

Hello

Hello world

[ionic prairie]

hi y'all. I'm just started css and still learning. hope someone could help me comprehend grid and flex

[tacit pumice]

I'm very much interested

[left shell]

of course dm me

[pure copper]

Sure. No one usually replies after they ask. I was thinking of running a mini class,

Dm me and tell me about what you have seen so far... How much do you know if anything?
@octave.mrb @bold sinew

[shy glade]

hey , anyone intreseted in SQL

[pure copper]

Always looking for improvements, cause i let it slip

[native moon]

guys, can you help me? How i can divide my time to learn something more than one. so, i try to invest myself at pharmacy, cyber security, english and my business. so, can you help me how i can divide my time to learn these things in one day?

[shy glade]

It depends on your goals, how deeply do you want to explore all these topics? But in general I like the phrase - where there's focus there's results.

[cold star]

@edgy gust yes brother I want

[pure copper]

You will not learn all, nor one, in one day. But allocate a percentage to all of the things you wish to do. More for the important and less for the least important. Determine the time you have for these activities during a day and multiply the percentages by the time. This will give you the amount of time to allocate to each activity each day.

[pure copper]

So many rhetorical questions. No one actually cares about the answer to their questions.

[shy glade]

lmfao

those node modules

by the way, it's been a while since i used to be active here

[spark turtle]

I am good at website development, please ping me when you need my help 🙂

[tacit pumice]

Not much, well better say not at all, so if you require prior knowledge I'm ready to get myself informed if there's any source you want to suggest I check. My problem is not knowing where to start. I'm a bit of a nerd, I never showed up to class not knowing anything haha 😂 I come with the mindset of being ready to do whatever it takes so long I'm guided

What's the path to adopt to end up being able to create an app? See I'm a teacher, so I'd love to end up developing an app to learn English.

[south harness]

guys i need your help in something

is ther anyone who is learning c++ language

or have learned

[queen urchin]

me

[pure copper]

If you just post the actually question, there will be someone who will answer it. But if you only need to know if someone has learned c++, then that answer is yes.

[fossil furnace]

It has to follow stackoverflow flow

I just noticed that in this server there's a programming channel lol

[pure copper]

Nice to know teachers do not show up to classes.

Teach you the absolute starting of how a language works, storage, input, output, loops, conditions. Then pick a language, get that on your machine and work from there.

[tacit pumice]

I'll Google those and check YouTube. When a question emerges I'll reach out (if that's ok with you) I just hope they give me the chance to access the IT room (it's kinda hard while serving in the military T_T) wish me luck 🤞

[wintry spade]

Hi guys! Nice to meet you I enter now here. I liked this group. I Work How front end designer. You Work whats languages?

[formal mist]

Hi, i'm not working now but i study programming, i like python and c#

[glacial scarab]

me to

me too*

im learning phyton

[barren coyote]

Javascript is better than python

I'll get out of here before the discussion

Lol

[novel turtle]

anyone can interested guide me in programming

[south harness]

can someone simply explain the difference between pointers and refrences * and & i am so confused

[torn marlin]

it is same but references are easier to use

i mean they fix the confussion of pointers

[south harness]

does pointer only holds addresses or it also hold values simply

[torn marlin]

only holds adresses

but if you put * it returns values

of the adresses it holds

but while declaring * means it is a pointer

[formal mist]

did you learn python oop? It's difficult to me

[pure copper]

Oh no you don't. You get right back here and finish what you started.

[pure copper]

If you have any general questions feel free to ask.

[shy glade]

Have you experience in programming? if so, in which language?

[pure copper]

Yes. Many years. Many languages. I just avoid web front ends.

[shy glade]

interesting, why not only web frontend?

[pure copper]

I've worked on database systems, compilers, system tools,

A web front end is just a pretty form. It's what happens to the data that is the interesting part.

[keen mortar]

thats so wront hahhahh

wrong

[silk fox]

Hi guys! Can you recommend IDE for Java ?

[shy glade]

Wow

[pure copper]

Really?

[keen mortar]

intelij

yea

frontend must use logic as well

[silk fox]

ths

[keen mortar]

its not just "colors"

[shy glade]

I agree with her that data management is so logical but

[keen mortar]

im full stack and currently working as a cloud engineer

the just colors part its the ui ux part

dont spread missinformation

[pure copper]

Just pre processing data for display or simple server input

But yeah i can accept your statement. It's all processing eventually

[shy glade]

Ok, I must say frontend can be more important and interesting,

[keen mortar]

yeah, backend its repetitive

you learn crud and thats it

it gets boring

[pure copper]

Over the last 50 years it went from back end to front end to back end heavy.

[shy glade]

For example, if a woman looks ugly, people would dislike her even though she has got a perfect personality.

[keen mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/really-oh-seriously-gif-25779910

[pure copper]

If i want to know what 1+1 is i don't care if it's covered in lipstick or not. But I'm not saying that it's bad. It's just got to get the data to the audience in a fast, easy to get to format, unobscured by smiling faces.

[shy glade]

you are a really technical woman. I admire

[pure copper]

Nothing to admire. I just believe in determine what people want, and present it to them at quick and simply as necessary.

I hate icons.. give me a menu

Button with label

[shy glade]

what do you mean?

[keen mortar]

that means she only knows 1+1 2 and hates cute things

hashdfhdh

[shy glade]

Wow

really?

[keen mortar]

jk

[pure copper]

Over the last 10 years Google and Microsoft and others have been dumbing down interfaces to the point that buttons and controls are not conveying their function, leading to frustration by end users, not able to get things to happen.

[pure copper]

Yes 11 is 3

[shy glade]

3? Why 3?

not 2?

[pure copper]

Perhaps if i said there are only 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't.

[shy glade]

Uh, binary

[pure copper]

Mmmmm☠️

Fatal error

[shy glade]

I see. you seem to be a kind of strange woman who knows only the number.

1 or )

0

[pure copper]

Neil && programing -> 0

[shy glade]

hahahah

you have got a sense of humor

[pure copper]

1

[shy glade]

but unfortunately, I am a programmer so me&&programming = true

[pure copper]

Happy for you. I hope you enjoy your career

[shy glade]

wow, you are pulling my legs now, right

?

[pure copper]

The will be much change in the next 50 years

[pure copper]

Why

Can i not be serious also

[shy glade]

by the way, I wanna say programming doesn't mean 1 and 0

there is also 0.5 just like human life

[pure copper]

Deep down it does

Give me some quantum now

[shy glade]

Well, as you may know, computers determine 1 and 0 according to voltage

[pure copper]

Yes yes, and clocks don't sync signals...

Perfectly

[shy glade]

I mean,

[pure copper]

Indeterminate states

But hey. We just want to see

[shy glade]

what does this picture mean?

why do you show me this picture two times

[pure copper]

Me and my development team

💃

[shy glade]

wow, then where are you among them?

second grandma, maybe?

[pure copper]

I can't be bothered getting a different picture to say people just want to see happy faces on Web forms, and aren't interested in electrical signal processing

[pure copper]

Front end one

The lady at the back serves the potatoes in the canteen

She is the server

[shy glade]

Hmm

[shy glade]

is she you?

[pure copper]

Sorry for my rye humour

[shy glade]

aha

I see your point

[pure copper]

I'm old but not that old

[shy glade]

are you old?

Is this avatar your grand daughter's?

[pure copper]

Enough talk about me. What is your computing speciality? What are you aiming for?

[pure copper]

Is that avatar you?

[shy glade]

yeah

no, my grand son's one hhh

[pure copper]

Then you should know who my avatar is.

[shy glade]

should?

not at all, I am just surprised

[pure copper]

Just as surprised as i was when i found out your pic was your grand son's

[shy glade]

you are funny

[pure copper]

Are you a cobol programmer?

[shy glade]

hmmm, i am absolutely frontend developer

[pure copper]

That was over your head ig

So why say grandson

[shy glade]

just joking

[pure copper]

What languages do you use for that?

[shy glade]

javascript

and other many framework based in that

[pure copper]

So what does the jscriot do on your page s

Typically?

Seriously?

@shy glade ?

[shy glade]

Sorry

[pure copper]

R u there

[shy glade]

Then do you really don't know?

what javascript is

[pure copper]

I don't do it. I did not want to get involved

I learned java long ago but never used it.

[shy glade]

javascript is different from java

totally different

[pure copper]

Yes. I understand

Tell me more

[shy glade]

JavaScript is a script language

thanks to JavaScript, you can use this discord now

Umm, which language do you major in?

script languages can be compiled if it has some errors and warnings where as C couldn't

[pure copper]

So script is sort of like the programming equivalent of zinc oxide in our lives

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yo5g2LLxKHg&pp=ygUga2VudHVja3kgZnJpZWQgbW92aWUgemluYyBveGlkZSA%3D

[shy glade]

are you good at chemistry too?

[pure copper]

I did it but don't as a job

Preferred physics

Psychology, geology

[shy glade]

Ah... excuse me, are you doctor?

I mean Ph.degree

You seem to know everything, I started to feel afraid of you...

[pure copper]

yes. Disclaimer: Not a doctor

[pure copper]

Oh. No. Only masters of pm

Considering phd over last few years. Trying to think of something interesting to base it on.

[shy glade]

cool

[zealous abyss]

Hi

[shy glade]

so seriously, I just want to know about your age, emm, if you don't mind...

are you really much older than me?

Peo?

are you still there?

[pure copper]

Yes
I am in probably older than you.

@shy glade

I gave up programming. Only poke around a bit these days. I basically just write the specifications and designs for systems now, and leave the coding to others. Can't be bothered keeping up with all the changing languages and libraries.

Damn spell uncorrector

[shy glade]

good idea

[pure copper]

I do want to do some Android programming, but my machine is so slow i can't even get it to boot. I have a new gaming machine, but I'm to lazy to clean the games of it to give me some room to program.

[shy glade]

I wonder if this is an English learning server, actually, I am here to learn English but unexpectedly I met programming expert

[pure copper]

You need to learn English tech still.

[shy glade]

Yeah, I see

why don't you help me?

I think I made some mistakes during the conversation, but you didn't correct them

[pure copper]

I am. That's why I'm talking tech.

If you knew, i knew you knew.

[shy glade]

No, I just know I make mistakes but don't know what are the mistakes

[pure copper]

Your English has been very good so far. Only see a missing 'a' in one post.

[pure copper]

Just don't know what they are.

Now you are making an effort to make mistakes

What country are you from?

Or native language

[shy glade]

I am hong konger actually

And u?

[pure copper]

Did we speak a few days ago, or am i thinking of someone else i met from hk

[shy glade]

No, as you can see the leaves tag next my name, I am new here

I guess you are Asian, right?

[pure copper]

I don't see leaves. And don't know how they relate even if i do see them. 🙅‍♀️

[pure copper]

No. Why do you say that?

[shy glade]

of course, because of your avatar

[pure copper]

If it was a dragon or anime girl would you have said that?

[shy glade]

hhh, you are really funny

[pure copper]

I used to say, no one looks like their pfp, but lately i see that this is becoming normal.

[shy glade]

what do you mean pfp?

[pure copper]

Profile picture

@shy glade i guess you have gone

[shy glade]

Sorry,

[pure copper]

I'm in Australia

[shy glade]

Oh

Would you mind if I added you to my friend list?

[pure copper]

I try not to collect friends, but you can dm me if you ever want to ask something.

Purple become friends and never speak again.

Chat it ping me in the server, I'm always willing to natter here then switching between screens. It's too hard to navigate.

I hate tech

(unless i wrote it myself)

[shy glade]

Hello

Peo? are you still there?

[pure copper]

Yes

What code whoever?

[shy glade]

I am sorry, someone is kidding me right now and I had to deal with him.

[pure copper]

What they do

[shy glade]

they are interrupting our conversation, definitely.

[pure copper]

On discord, or poking you in the back

[shy glade]

Oops, I threw him away just before

[pure copper]

Was that the person that popped into the channel and vanished a few seconds later?

[pure copper]

This @shy glade

[neat briar]

Here is a bit of a challenge for yee, programming / algorithm likers:

You have 8 possible digits, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8

You have 8 cells, each could contain one of the 8 digits

You need to find all possible combinations, without repetitions (12233678 for example is excluded)

[Edit] (This needs to be as efficient as possible, meaning not doing actions which aren't needed)

Hint 1:
||You will need to use recursion for this||

Hint 2:
||8 digits? That sounds like too much to think, how about making a small sub problem? Lets try it only with 3 digits||

Answer:
||[Answer is implaced inside the square brackets, as you can see, 'Answer' was said previously]||
*Changed questions *

(Hmmm, not so far off from an interview question level btw)

[pure copper]

Maybe 8 embedded loops will get you them.

Or just 1 loop incrementing by 1 from 0 to 88888888

Padded with leading 1s

Oh misseds the 8. Ignoring any 9s and 0s using an if to ignore.

Remember Neil is 215am

[shy glade]

Wow

I see, then why don't you sleep?

I never imagine that you would be still here

[pure copper]

Or use a base 8 +1 mod function and shift left function on carry, with the appropriate number of cycles. (Left to the diligent programmer)

[neat briar]

In the question, ints are limited to 1 digit, meaning you can't have 88888888 (Indeedly noice nonetheless, and is sort of one of the ways to solve)

(Forgot to mention this, t'was a direct counter to this :wolfdance:)

[pure copper]

What do you mean ints limited to 1 digit?

If only i had a computer

[pure copper]

You said 12233678 is included, ie repititions included

For a1 =1 to 8
For a2 = 1 to 8
For a3 = 1 to 8
For a4 = 1 to 8
For a5 =1 to 8
For a6 = 1 to 8
For a7 =1 to 8
For a8 = 1 to 8
Print a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6, a7, a8
Next
Next
Next
Next
Next
Next
Next
Next

.

[neat briar]

Hmmm, yeh, I see I defined the question not with linked list, so yeh, this solves it :wolfdance:

Lets bring out the next question!

This one I'm pretty sure I can define better

You have the pascal triangle:
1
1 1
1 2 1
1 3 3 1
1 4 6 4 1
(And so on, as you can see, it's the sum of the ones above the current number calculated, if there's no number, 0 is added)

Let x be the row and y be the colon

Given x and y, you need to find their number inside the triangle

You may generate the triangle

You can't use an equation (There's an equation, but tis a programming question, not math)

The complexity time, aka runtime, needs to be as lowest as possible, with the default answer being making the entire triangle and finding it there. (For example, making the entire triangle until row x, will have the complexity time of x^2, because you would need to calculate x^2 numbers. We want to make it lower)

Nein

Message gotta be long for da question (Bot asked)

[wintry spade]

Very cool! nice to meet you! I saw C#, in my university

[wintry spade]

Show!

[wintry spade]

kkkkkk lol

[crystal sphinx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqsmj8m6oIA

[crystal sphinx]

try flutter

google just release new google earth verison using flutter for web

[paper igloo]

I'm very new to c++
How can i take a good start

[pure copper]

This @shy glade

#💻｜programming message

[bleak elm]

any computer will do to learn the basics

[shy glade]

JavaScript:

function pascalTriangle(x, y) {
if (x == 1) return 1;
else if (y == 1 || y >= x) return 1;
else return pascalTriangle(x - 1, y - 1) + pascalTriangle(x - 1, y);
}

is it correct?

[pure copper]

Did you test it?

[shy glade]

Yes

it works

[shy glade]

@pure copper I am waiting for you here

[pure copper]

It's strange how it looks so identical to the code available from Google

@shy glade

[neat briar]

Nope

What's the idea behind the code?

[neat briar]

Took a night's sleep to remember, t'was without repetitions

Your answer is correct for the previous question, so lets think of a different question

Attempt to answer this without repetitions, this time, counting wouldn't help, recursion would be needed, apologies for the confusions

[pure copper]

Or was because you said
"12233678 is included" , ie repititions included.

So are you saying only use each of the eight digits once only in the 8 cells at any one combination?

[neat briar]

Indeedly

So in this case, 12233678 is excluded, because 2 and 3 are already taken

[pure copper]

Would you accept this as the algorithm.
Start with 87654321 and run the digits as a bubble sort until they are 12345678. This should pass through all combinations at each iteration of the sort.
@neat briar

[neat briar]

Nope, because bubble sort on that would never have 86754321 (it would skip it, as 8 goes to the most right cell)

[neat moat]

Just use bogo sort

[neat briar]

Wouldn't work either, because how can you be sure that you'll go over all possible permutations? It might find it on the first try

(Also, it doesn't check for previously checked numbers, the space complexity you need to check whether a generated number already exists kinda beats the point)

[pure copper]

But it sorts from left to right, pushing the one, but i guess the same only in reverse... Ok bad choice

[neat briar]

Indeedly

[pure copper]

For a1 =1 to 8
For a2 = 1 to 8
For a3 = 1 to 8
For a4 = 1 to 8
For a5 =1 to 8
For a6 = 1 to 8
For a7 =1 to 8
For a8 = 1 to 8
If NotIn (a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7,a8) then
print a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6, a7, a8
Next;Next;Next;Next:
Next;Next;Next;Next

Function NotIn(a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h) boolean
Return ( a not in [b, c, d, e, f, g, h]
and b not in [c, d, e, f, g, h]
and c not in [ d, e, f, g, h]
and d not in [ e, f, g, h]
and e not in [f, g, h]
and f not in [g, h]
and g <> h)
End

@neat briar

[shy glade]

Is it C?

keep writing 🙂

[neat briar]

Hmmm, bit confused bout the code, could you explain it?

[pure copper]

Well it's the same as before, generates all combinations with repeats, but rejects any that have repeated digits. That's the notin function. Sure not the fastest ... Or is it?

[shy glade]

I think it is the latest one, isn't it?

[neat briar]

I think it should work at it's overall principle?

Although the isssue is that it does go over all the numbers and is inefficient, we want it to only take numbers which are wanted to be in the cells, rather than all numbers

(Imagine having 20 digits, the number of repetitions here would be massive)

Noice try though nonetheless

[pure copper]

It is only base 8 not as bad as base 10

Didn't say it had to be super efficient. That's what Intel i7 is for better than 8086. Strip out the op system and it'll run in a second or two.

[shy glade]

As software developers, we must develop algorithms in addition to relying on hardware technology. Intel i7 and 8086 are all hardware technology, right?

do you guys have any advices for me ı'm new at programming

[shy glade]

it depends on your major

[shy glade]

ı asked to my friend and he said start with c# to me

what is your purpose for the learning program

ı'm studying computer engineering this year

ı want to learn something before my shchool start

so, do you want to learn c#?

or any other language?

[shy glade]

Hello, where are all programmers?

[formal mist]

hi, here

[queen urchin]

yo

[serene mirage]

Yo

[shy glade]

Hi

I'm .net developer

[calm gale]

@shy glade ami your field

[shy glade]

he, he, he

what language you are developing in?

[pure copper]

As an engineer, you will probably be working with control systems, automation, robotics, electronics etc. It would probably be wise to learn C as the first language. It's a compact language with only about 30ish instructions, and let's you build stand alone applications that compile straight to the machine level.

Object oriented languages such as c++ is ok, but it's a little more to learn, and really only is about making the code prettier to read...(generally). More for a computer science person. More abstract structures. Nothing wrong, but if you learn C first you can add the c++ later with just a little more reading. .

C# doesn't compile to the machine level and requires a load of extra things to run . NET ASP and it's going to be unsuitable for most of your engineering work. While it is portable it's primarily used in ms Windows systems. Better for web dev.

[gentle ember]

what languages does we you for game dev?

we use

[forest oriole]

C++ or C#

[pure copper]

Are you just saying that, or you actually use C# for game development?

[forest oriole]

I've used C# for game development and they're game engines who use C# for game development

[pure copper]

Oki

[forest oriole]

A lot of popular games are made with C# like Hollow knight or Hearthstone

[south harness]

guys i need your help i am a bigginer coding learner currently i am learning c++ i know some of you are experts thing is that i do coding while sitting on my bed with my legs spread out and after a while i feel sleepy and then i sleep and when sometime i do coding sittin on bed without back support and after few min my back start hurting then i take back support and same process continues so i think you guys have gone through this condition so plz give me some advice how should i sit and work Thanks.

[queen urchin]

that's funny. just studying could be but working hard cannot.

maybe you can prepare a cool chair

[thick mulch]

hi everyone .

Is there any web developer ? I need a little help to find something in wordpress

[zealous abyss]

I'm learned flask in Python, and JavaScript react a little

[shy glade]

Hello, developers!

Where are you? Why is this channel so quite?

[tawny delta]

how do you type big text?

[shy glade]

what do you mean "big text"?

[tawny delta]

like when you see letters on a bigger size than normal

[shy glade]

In discord?

[tawny delta]

yes

i saw if before but i can't try it - any help?

[shy glade]

No idea...

[tawny delta]

anyone??

[shy glade]

This channel is empty now, but only me

[tawny delta]

oh! it can't be!

[shy glade]

where is @pure copper if she is here...

[shy glade]

Are there any javascript developers here?

[pure copper]

I'm at work, or am just leaving again to go somewhere else

Busy busy busy

[pure copper]

Sit on floor and use bed as back rest.

[pure copper]

Write a c++ class that makes the bed harder, so that you don't sink into it.

[shy glade]

too quiet, too lonely, where are all programmers?

[shy glade]

I think feedback algorithm should be used, right?

[grim iris]

Hey guys. there are anybody here who knows Java?????? im needing some help

[shy glade]

what's the matter?

[neat briar]

T'was the idea

Why bring an inefficient algorithm when one exists that's more efficient

Now imagine that these 8 digits become 1 million digits, 8 digits is like a sub problem of a bigger one. Like why bubble sort is not used much as sorting n numbers take n^2 actions, and sorts that take nlog(n), like mergsort are used (Although some may preform better than others depending on the given data)

That's why even if it takes a second or two more, we look at complexity time, because every problem could be a subproblem of a bigger one, where even the slightest of efficiency could shave off a massive amount of time

[neat briar]

Hmmm, do say why do you think this algorithm should work.

Does it not have any repetitions?

Does it go over all the numbers?

Is it the most efficient? (Aka doesn't check the numbers with repetitions)

[pure copper]

One only gets what they pay for. If it's not in the spec, you won't get it.. (Real world projects)

Also

Sure there is an algorithm out there, some people here ☠️ have already proven they can do a Google search. I'm just throwing in something quick for the pop quiz. You can see from the lack of efficiency, it's not going to be google #1 or even#1000.

💃🧜‍♀️

[pure copper]

Imaging 20, perhaps 3 concurrent processors..

Seriously though, i was presented with a NASA conversion job to make more efficient the algorithm to calculate the simulated combustion flow in rocket engines. It was a millions of spawned energy subcalculations as the fuel is ignited. Definitely would not have liked the sequential solution.

[neat briar]

Not saying the algorithm you brought doesn't work, I'm saying it can be improved, and the idea is not going over numbers you don't need to, that's why the question is tricky

When I looked at the lack of efficiency, I looked at the number of additional action used comparatively with the digits added, the idea is finding an algorithm so that you would use as less processing power as possible, making small improvements can have a big impact timewise

[neat briar]

Even with concurrent processors, I'm looking specifically at the processing resources used

Hoh, that's noice, unsure what you were presented with, but indeedly interestin

[pure copper]

It was a fun sounding project. They were looking for anyone around the world, as it was old code, so not many people left who understood it. It was just the security requirements which i didn't want to comply with (move), that i didn't progress with the work.

[neat briar]

Ah I see, dam, I do like seeing how code of the past is being improved today, I did wonder if it's possible to improve code even if you have to use the same hardware and code the same code language, are we smarter than our past people

Sounds indeedly interestin, out of curiousity, was it C or a low level code? (Close to hardware code)

[pure copper]

Fortran

On cray

[neat briar]

Hoh, I see, noice

Tis indeedly interesting having to program a super computer with it's multiple processors

[neat briar]

Welp, to those suddenly seeing the threads here, if you want to give it a try, do go ahead

[plush parrot]

@neat briar using python is simple: itertools.permutations([1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8], 8)

[neat briar]

I am unsure what this library does, but the idea is for you to make an algorithm without using a library (Aka work out an algorithm for this...)

[pure copper]

Abrahams|chatgpt>/dev/tty

Problems solved

Where my baked beans be at now?

[neat briar]

[neat briar]

Abrahams brought the string "If you read this, self destruct", so ChatGPT self destructed causing nuclear war, at that very instance, a bomb made a pan full of baked beans crash into your table, surprisingly, it is in perfect condition, equipped with a spoon for you to eat, before the apocalypses

Hope it good baked beans

[pure copper]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdw5Eykf1Rg&list=PL-gE6YEknW-Mbko_WqUfNpKo3_hAh2khm&pp=iAQB8AUB

[wanton depot]

Any Nodejs with typescript expert here?

[neat briar]

Commercials in the past sure were good keks

[shy glade]

hello, I know node and ts, what's the matter?

[shy glade]

I think the algorithm of your quiz is simple, isn't it? just need a coding skill to implement it. or any special algoritm exsits?

[neat briar]

To have it without repetitions and go over all the possible permutations is not simple, there isn't a special algorithm or twist for it

You could explain how you would solve it without programming, that's alright aswell, but you need to explain how you would solve it with programming (Basically explain what you would program)

[shy glade]

really?

If you think so, I will post my code

[neat briar]

Sure, go ahead

[shy glade]

function finallySolved(cell) {
  for (x1 of cell) {
    var cell = cell.filter((x) => x != x1);
    var a1 = x1;
    for (x2 of cell) {
      var cell = cell.filter((x) => x != x2);
      var a2 = x2;
      for (x3 of cell) {
        var cell = cell.filter((x) => x != x3);
        var a3 = x3;
        for (x4 of cell) {
          var cell = cell.filter((x) => x != x4);
          var a4 = x4;
          for (x5 of cell) {
            var cell = cell.filter((x) => x != x5);
            var a5 = x5;
            for (x6 of cell) {
              var cell = cell.filter((x) => x != x6);
              var a6 = x6;
              for (x7 of cell) {
                var cell = cell.filter((x) => x != x7);
                var a7 = x7;
                for (x8 of cell) {
                  var a8 = x8;
                  console.log(
                    a1.toString() +
                      a2.toString() +
                      a3.toString() +
                      a4.toString() +
                      a5.toString() +
                      a6.toString() +
                      a7.toString() +
                      a8.toString()
                  );
                }
                cell.push(x7);
              }
              cell.push(x6);
            }
            cell.push(x5);
          }
          cell.push(x4);
        }
        cell.push(x3);
      }
      cell.push(x2);
    }
    cell.push(x1);
  }
}

finallySolved([1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8]);

it seems to be pretty long code, but actually algorithm is so simple. Do you know JavaScript?

[pure copper]

That was no commercial, that was platinum record in Australia 1977

[neat briar]

Didn't touch java much, could you explain what your code does?

[shy glade]

JavaScript, not Java

[neat briar]

Makes me want to buy backed beans, it should have been

[neat briar]

Yeh, I meant I didn't touch anything java related, including javascript

[shy glade]

however it works, it makes correct result

and also it doesn't generate all numbers between 11111111 and 88888888

it means that mine is correct answer, right?

[pure copper]

What does ceil.filter do?

[neat briar]

I am still confused over what the algorithm does

[shy glade]

it's javascript function

just like filter

[pure copper]

Describe what it does in English

[neat briar]

Do answer the following for your algorithm:

How does it count?

Does it not have any repetitions?

Does it go over all the numbers?

Is it the most efficient? (Aka doesn't check the numbers with repetitions)

[shy glade]

Array.protoType.filter(callbackFunction)

standard form is like this

it means

filter the array that consists of elements which is true in callbackFunction

ah, I am not native speaker as you know, not sure you would understand what I mean

[shy glade]

Anyway,

it doesn't have any repetitions and doesn't go over all the numbers

and not sure but think it is the most efficient for time complexity

[neat briar]

I do need you to explain how it does so

[neat briar]

Write the explanation in your own language, use google translate to translate it

[shy glade]

wow, wow, it is an English learning server, isn't it? So I will try to explain in English.

I am really sorry. I will be back soon

[neat briar]

I thought google translate would help to better express yourself, also helps with expanding vocabulary. Sure, try to explain it yourself, I'll do my best to understand / fill the gaps 👍

No problem

[shy glade]

Hello, which language do you know?

[pure copper]

It looks like my algorithm, but chuck the not in , into each loop to reduce the iterations, but rejecting each internal loop if the number is already generated in the current iteration of the/an outer loop.

[neat briar]

Both English & Hebrew

[shy glade]

I mean programming language,

[pure copper]

Use the shalom++ please

[shy glade]

I will write my code in that language and you can understand yourself

Oh,

[shy glade]

you said me?

[pure copper]

Yes

[shy glade]

sorry to say but is shalom++ language? I only know C++, C#, Java, Python and etc...

[pure copper]

Shalom++/jk

[shy glade]

anyway I will try with the help of Google but it will take a while

[neat briar]

[pure copper]

We were just asking you to describe in plain English what you're program is doing.

[neat briar]

Made my computer crash every time

[shy glade]

is shalom++ really programming language?, @neat briar

[pure copper]

No it's a joke

Refers to Hebrew

[neat briar]

Shalom means Hi in my language, so when Peo said Shalom++ it was a joke referring to Hebrew

[shy glade]

she is kidding me, sometimes she likes to make jokes cause me lol

[neat briar]

[pure copper]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WEhS9Y9HYjU&pp=ygUnd2luZG1pbGxzIG9mIG15IG1pbmQgZHVzdHkgc3ByaW5nZmllbGQg

[neat briar]

Hoh, lots of OG songs

Am mostly into modern music

I have this one song that's the most OG I am hearing though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edwsf-8F3sI

Hmm, doesn't show it

[shy glade]

step1: cell=[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8]
step2: choose x1 in cell(=[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8])-> x1=1, cell=[2,3,4,5,6,7,8]
step3: choose x2 in cell(=[2,3,4,5,6,7,8])-> x2=2, cell=[3,4,5,6,7,8]
...
step7: choose x7 in cell(=[7,8])-> x7=7, cell=[8]
step8: choose x8 in cell(=[8])-> x8=8, print x1,x2,x3,x4,x5,x6,x7,x8->12345678

repeat each step until we choose every element in the cell

could you understand?

I really hope...

that's why my code doesn't go over all numbers from 11111111 to 88888888

only choose needed number

[shy glade]

Hello?

guys?

[neat briar]

Pong

Assuming the for loop works on a seperate cell list, which can be accessed globally, I think this should work

Although long with lines, this wouldn't go on repetitions

Well done

The solution for this is of a similar concept, having a global list which would tell you if the current number could be used:

[shy glade]

So, am I passed?

[neat briar]

I think it passed, lemme see

[shy glade]

next challenge?

[neat briar]

This

For now am writing the answer for the first one, tis in python

[shy glade]

I already solve it. @uncut fog will prove it

[neat briar]

.

[shy glade]

why is it incorrect?

what is the reason? It makes correct return

[neat briar]

Explain it's concept first

[shy glade]

assuming element(x, y) is a one which is in row x and column y, as you know element(x, y) = element(x-1, y-1) + element(x-1, y)

it is pascal triangle, right?

from this concept, I use feedback algorithm

[neat briar]

Explain how it works at the program

Give me an example where your program runs

[shy glade]

if you give me row and column, I will give you the result

[neat briar]

(On the highway rn, so I'll ask between stations / on train)

I need to know how the algorithm, not the result

[shy glade]

function pascalTriangle(row, col) {
  if (row == 1) return 1;
  else if (col == 1 || col >= row) return 1;
  else return pascalTriangle(row - 1, col - 1) + pascalTriangle(row - 1, col);
}

assume we input 5 and 3 as a value of x and y, this function return pascalTriange(4, 2)+pascalTriangle(4, 3) because 4!=1, 3!=1, 3<4

like this,

pascalTriangle(5, 3) = pascalTriangle(4, 2)+pascalTriangle(4, 3) = (pascalTriangle(3, 1) + pascalTriangle(3, 2) ) +( pascalTriangle(3, 2) + pascalTriangle(3, 3) ) = ( 1 + pascalTriangle(2, 1) + pascalTriangle(2, 2)) + (pascalTriangle(2, 1) + pascalTriangle(2, 2)+1) = (1+1+1+1+1+1) = 6

result = 6

this algorithm searches the route from the edge of the Pascal triangle to the given position and calculates the distance.

[boreal magnet]

While I am a new learner 🥹

[shy glade]

so?

[boreal magnet]

Learning to code 🤪 it seems challenging 😕

[neat briar]

It works, but its not abstract enough, what if it's about 10,000 numbers? Would you do 10,000 for loops manually?

[neat briar]

For the pascal, I still don't understand the algorithm you show

[shy glade]

WHY?

What is the problem?

[neat briar]

Also, you're not using google to solve these, right?

[shy glade]

Hey, she has gone now

[neat briar]

The build up of the recursion is a bit confusing in your explanation

[neat briar]

She is, I'm still asking that

[neat briar]

It seems odd to me that the code comes first before the logic, which's confusing me

[shy glade]

what shall I do to make you understand my code

[neat briar]

Explain it's logic, it's what confuses me

[shy glade]

I # ALEADY explained

it's simple feedback algorithm

[neat briar]

Not the steps the recursion does, why it does these steps

What they represent

[shy glade]

what do you mean? I write my code and that's why it does those steps

[neat briar]

When you write a code, you first think of a certain logic to solve the problem

[shy glade]

yes

[neat briar]

Based in that solution, that logic, you do your code

[shy glade]

yes

right

of course

[neat briar]

I am asking what steps did you have in mind for the solution when you did this recursion, it's what confuses me

[shy glade]

Well, I assumed I already had a certain number with the given position (x, y). And thought about how it could be determined basically. As I said in the Pascal triangle f(x, y) = f(x-1, y-1) + f(x-1, y) is the rule. It never changes for any numbers in any position. Also, we know that the number's value on the edge of Pascal's triangle is 1. From these 2 rules of the Pascal triangle, I write my code. now, do you understand?

Please...

[neat briar]

It still seems a bit off but I can understand the gaps

Do explain the solution before showing code unless its commentated, otherwise it's not quite understandable

[shy glade]

yeah, got it. so do you finally understand and is it passed?

pascal triangle quiz?

[neat briar]

Indeed

Although I would like to see an abstract solution to the first one, it still works for the specific question

[shy glade]

Ok, I will change my code for your request

[shy glade]

result_list = []


def solveQuiz(ItemList):
    for item in ItemList:
        result_list.append(item)
        if len(ItemList) == 1:
            print(result_list)
            result_list.remove(item)
            return
        else:
            ItemList.remove(item)
            solveQuiz(ItemList)
            ItemList.append(item)
            result_list.remove(item)
            ItemList.sort()


solveQuiz([1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8])

[native grotto]

Uh hello.

[shy glade]

hi

[neat briar]

Could you explain the logic of it first? (I do see some possible logic errors)

Also, noice for going on abstract

[shy glade]

logic error? really? it makes correct return

The logic is as same as the code I posted before. I just reduced the code amount by using recursion.

can you run the python program? If so, you can find that the result of my code is correct!

Definitely, it is more difficult for me to explain my code than to solve the quiz. If you have sth difficult to understand, ask me directly and I will answer in detail.

Hello, @neat briar ?

[neat briar]

There aren't any errors, it is still odd to me it's harder for you to explain the solution before sending the code first indeedly

[pure copper]

Discord knows good music and when to show it

[neat briar]

There it was

[shy glade]

Because you have a question even in very simple logic

[neat briar]

In those questions you first need to think of a solution before you code, as we both said that

If you simply send code, it doesn't really tell me anything

[shy glade]

yeah, I do

[neat briar]

Just that I need to work out the code and understand it me-self

[neat briar]

So why not instead of coding it, first send the explanation?

[shy glade]

are you learning programming?

[neat briar]

I am

[pure copper]

I may have gone, but that is not abrahams question. That is a little aggressive....

[neat briar]

[wise vector]

Hello !
Is there anyone here who is interested in learning artificial intelligence like me so we can discuss it?

[neat briar]

Hm, just did it in google bard, I did get a similar code for the pascal one, as in, the spaces and the function name, could be a coincidence, it happens

[pure copper]

I will discuss it. Happily.

[shy glade]

I am here to discuss this happily. I know python but not AI

[pure copper]

Hey I'm doing it happily. You can do it with some other adjective.

[neat briar]

Hmmm

[pure copper]

Such a fun channel

[shy glade]

but not if you are not here

so lonely

[pure copper]

Some people have a life outside of discord

Birds chirping

Gentle wind across the face

Deer running through the plains

Crickets and cicadas whistling in my ear

[shy glade]

btw, what is the next challenge?

[neat briar]

Hmmm, never saw one irl

[neat briar]

Got none for now

[shy glade]

ok

[pure copper]

Without using code, describe in plain English, the steps you would take to generate a maze within a matrix of size n x m. One cell can be a wall element or a path element. No inaccessible paths.

[shy glade]

I can't understand your task. Generate a matrix? then what kinds of generate? could you tell me more detail?

[shy glade]

Hey yall

[shy glade]

you are welcome

[native grotto]

Hey.

[shy glade]

hello

[native grotto]

Oh hey neil.

[shy glade]

yeah

[native grotto]

Are you in the programming club

[shy glade]

yeah

as you can see

[native grotto]

I was just checking out which club should i be in.

[shy glade]

do you know programming?

[native grotto]

I use some coding program's like Hypertextmarkup language annd the python.

[shy glade]

good,

I like porgramming channel and serious-chat channel

[native grotto]

Same.

[shy glade]

then where are u from?

[native grotto]

Well.

Asia.

[shy glade]

well country?

[native grotto]

India.

[shy glade]

uh, india...

[native grotto]

Yes is there a problem.

[shy glade]

no, not at all

are you web developer?

[native grotto]

Not yet.

[shy glade]

i know many developers from india

[native grotto]

And i don't want be one.

[shy glade]

if so, what do you do?

@uncut fog?

[native grotto]

I'm about to graduate school.

And wanted to become an airforce pilot.

[shy glade]

good idea

[native grotto]

Well what do you do then.

[shy glade]

you can guess

[native grotto]

A web developer.

[shy glade]

right

[native grotto]

Can guess by the club and by the way you asked me the questions.

[shy glade]

yeah, you are right

programming is my hobby

[torn marlin]

mashallah

[native grotto]

Everybody has their own talent.

[shy glade]

yeah, totally right

[torn marlin]

how to hack someone's Instagram

[native grotto]

You are a fluent English speaker tell us about yourself.

[torn marlin]

i am a fluent english speaker. i like videogames

[shy glade]

hacking is illegal

[native grotto]

Can be for good purposes.

Or bad ones.

[torn marlin]

do i care?

[native grotto]

Answer.

The question.

[torn marlin]

what question

[native grotto]

You asked an interrogative question so you should have an answer.

[torn marlin]

i don't.

[native grotto]

Have a nice day then.

[torn marlin]

OK.

[native grotto]

Hey neil.

[shy glade]

Hi

[native grotto]

I was interested in science should i join one group.

[shy glade]

It's your choice

[native grotto]

Okay.

[shy glade]

but there are so many fields in science

[native grotto]

Like if i want to become a pilot i would need physic's and chemistry.

[pure copper]

They asked the question. You could provide the answer

[native grotto]

Let's just go to the english question channel.

[pure copper]

As an Australian i will use the polite form of refusal and s ay 'piss off' with your demands.

One does not 'have to' anything. In English, this is what domestic abuse sounds like. It's is very disrespectful regardless of situation.

Please also note, people helping here are volunteers.

[native grotto]

what?

[shy glade]

Sorry to say "have to". I just said it as very, very, very informal meaning, not disrespectful regardless because I feel that you seem to my friend. If I offend you, I hope you could understand that's not really what I mean.

Then what about this, could you pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase help me?

[shy glade]

she seems to be angry.

[native moon]

guys, i want to learn cyber security. do you have any recomendation what thing i should learn as beginer at cyber security?

[pure copper]

Not you.

[pure copper]

Start reading about published system vulnerabilities over the past years. Start to understand what it means to break a system, and how it is achieved in real life. This will build your understanding and give you a foundation on which to start at the bottom. Over the years you will become an expert on where to look, when things appear to be too good for comfort.

The are 'hack' kits available that provide an interface to all the different types of ways to break a system. Acquiring this, will help give you some practice and see how the code works. The only problem you need to watch out for, is that the kits available online are probably published by global hackers already, so you will just be opening your system up to them. Need to have your own mini network or virtual world . Learn about virtual environments, so when you destroy your system, you can reload it again.

[pure copper]

Generate similar to this

[twin solar]

What's your approach? Seems like it simply requires recursion

[neat briar]

Hoh, this looks like a fun one

[neat briar]

Mind if I try to solve this?

Wrote the answer but only asked after writing it lmao

[pure copper]

Sure, for anyone

[neat briar]

Noice

I thought about this:
Lets call X a wall block, and O a path block. Lets begin by setting all the blocks as a wall block, meaning X.

I would move in the maze using recursion, and I would start by randomizing a single solution for the maze, having a clear pathway for the maze with O's.

Next, I would randomize spots in the maze where I would make a pathway from an existing O to random X spot on the maze, where it'll stop mid-way if there exists an O there, because I don't want to overlap paths, as it might make it look badly

Now, we'll probably end up with chunks of X's just laying around. To beautify this I would find places where there are squares of x's:

XX
XX
(A big yucky block)

And I would turn one of the x's into an O.

I would do so on all found square of x's.

Although now we'll have white chunks, I do prefer it more than black chucks

I don't think it's the best algorithm for this, but it might do the work

[native grotto]

Hello.

[shy glade]

Hi

[native grotto]

Sorry for my disappearance.

[shy glade]

No, that's ok

[native grotto]

So what were you doing since the past 7 hours.

[shy glade]

I worked

[native grotto]

Well explains alot.

You are a web developer.

[pure copper]

Sounds like a good strategy. I have a similar plan with the start path and random paths there from. The xxxx solution sounds possibly ok, unless there are adjacent xxxx, in which case the 0s possible need some think so they don't end up embedded.

[shy glade]

yeah, you are right

[native grotto]

Well carry on then.

[pure copper]

With the secondary paths are you generating them towards a selected end point? Or something else?

[native grotto]

ooo..I love mazes.

[shy glade]

AStar(Maze maze, Node start, Node end) {
    priority_queue queue();
    // Init all distances with infinity
    for (auto&& node : maze.nodes) {
      node.distance = Infinity;
      node.rootDistance = Infinity;
      // Note: we may reinforce the manhattan heuristic
      node.manhattanD = 2 * (Math.abs(end.x - node.x) + Math.abs(end.y - node.y));
    }
    // Distance to the root itself is zero
    start.rootDistance = 0;
    // Init queue with the root node
    queue.add(start, 0);
    // Iterate over the priority queue until it is empty.
    while (!queue.isEmpty()) {
      curNode = queue.dequeue();  // Fetch next closest node
      curNode.discovered = true;  // Mark as discovered
      // Iterate over unvisited neighbors
      for (auto&& neighbor : curNode.GetUnvisitedNeighbors())
      {
        // Update root minimal distance 
        neighbor.rDistance = Math.min(neighbor.rootDistance, curNode.rootDistance + 1);
        const minDistance = Math.min(neighbor.distance, neighbor.rootDistance + neighbor.manhattanD);
        
        if (minDistance !== neighbor.distance) {
          neighbor.distance = minDistance;  
          neighbor.parent = curNode;        
          // Change queue priority of the neighbor 
          if (queue.has(neighbor)) 
            queue.setPriority(neighbor, minDistance);
        }
        // Add neighbor to the queue for further visiting.
        if (!queue.has(neighbor)) 
          queue.add(neighbor, neighbor.distance);
      }
    }
  // Done ! At this point we just have to walk back from the end using the parent
  // If end does not have a parent, it means that it has not been found.
}

[neat briar]

I made the O path come out of an existing O path, starting from the solution path, that way it wouldn't be stuck like this:

XXXXX
XOOOX
XXXXX

I do see a slight problem with the secondary paths, so lets fix it.

It would start from a random O entry as long as it's not the end.

Lets say we have:

XXXOXXX
XXOOXXX
XXOXXXX
XXOXXXX

So to have a secondary path, it'll choose one of the O's to start with, lets choose this one:

XXXOXXX
XXOOXXX
XXOXXXX
XXOXXXX

And it'll move from it in a direction that doesn't have adjacent O's except itself (So we wouldn't have double sized path, making it look better)

The only possible path which doesn't have adjacent O's other than itself is this one:

XXXOXXX
XXOO__X__XX
XXOXXXX
XXOXXXX

So it'll turn it into an O:

XXXOXXX
XXOOOXX
XXOXXXX
XXOXXXX

Now it'll choose X's which fit the previous criteria and so on, until it reaches a dead end.

We could also randomize how big this path would be, assuming it would reach it's max size.

[pure copper]

The requirement is plain English neil stop coding

[pure copper]

Sounds good. And i assume you are doing the same to change direction or terminate the path?

[pure copper]

Had a little trouble seeing the selection was in bold and the other underlined, but eventually it popped out like a magic eye.

[shy glade]

I studied the maze pathfinder algorithm at my university. Mine is a standard code from the A* algorithm which is used widely. The maze pathfinder algorithm is taught to students whose major is Information Technology at any university. I am not sure why @uncut fog gave this quiz but anyway, it is for the algorithm professionals. If you go to a university afterward you can learn it.

[neat briar]

Yep

& Noice, discord didn't show it? (The bold and underline)

[neat briar]

I am currently in university, but formal education isn't really an indication, atleast in matters of computers.

While it sure helps, with so much information given online, anyone can learn and even be better than students.

I met people and kids which are much smarter than me in programming and don't have formal education (I have more experience and theory, nonetheless they're smarter), so it does annoy me a bit that you say that. It should be open for everyone.

Also, again, you should explain the algorithm and not send just the code.

[shy glade]

I don't mean only students can/must learn programming at university. As you said, anybody can learn and study. however what I want to say is that learning should be for a certain purpose, to achieve some accomplishment. First, set your target in the major subject and then keep learning to master your major. Otherwise, you will waste your time.
I find that there is a giant leap between your simple challenge (e.g. Pascal triangle) and the maze pathfinder algorithm. You should learn step by step to study algorithms. Originally, I felt interested in your challenge because I am not an algorithm expert and it is a good chance to learn algorithms. I hope you choose a more suitable quiz and develop your algorithm skills step by step.

[pure copper]

It did show it, but it's very subtle on my tiny screen.

[pure copper]

As we said before, anyone can search Google and cut and paste an algorithm these days. These challenges are not to see how fast you can search or dig up an old assignment. They are to see if people can use their brain and do something for themselves. Sure they are simple, but it's fun to create something with a little bit of thought. It didn't have to be perfect or efficient, just as long as it does what is asked. I am asking for no code, because that's helping people to think and it's also helping learn and express their thoughts in English, the whole point of this server.

[neat briar]

That doesn't mean they have to learn in a university or do a major about it for it to count, it is not a waste of time.

Even if you don't work on it specifically, developing algorithm solving skills is something that I think is good for everyone even if they don't have interest in it specifically, whatever job they're doing. It helps problem solving and improves your perspective on things.

These algorithms are not too simple. Explaining them is not either. It still annoys me that you only sent the code of these algorithms. I don't know if it's true, but it looks like code from Google Bard.

You don't need to be an algorithm expert to solve any of the challenges I brought, you don't even need to program anything. All you need is to solve it in a way that you can build a program for it. You can't program something without having it's outlines built before hand.

(Also, a great point from Peo)

[neat briar]

Ah I see, apologies

[shy glade]

For your two past quizzes, I can solve and write code myself and that is the reason why I feel interested. But in the case of the maze pathfinder algorithm, it is too professional to solve and write code with my programming skills. That's why I suggest you more suitable quiz.
Anyway, "easier said than done", in other words, "easier thinking than coding", as you told me, it is difficult to implement the solution of certain quizzes to coding, even though you find a perfect solution. What is the important one, "course" or "result" (I am not sure this expression is correct but I hope you understand me).
Actually, I misunderstood you that you tested my algorithm skill so I just sent my code(because coding means finding a solution/algorithm)
I didn't know you were a student and if I knew, I would try to explain in more detail. I apologize for that.

(I hope you tell and correct me if you find mistakes in my sentence.)

[neat briar]

Do you mean grammatical mistakes?

[shy glade]

Yes, and unsuitable expression

[neat briar]

Sure, I'll reply to it after finding out grammatical mistakes,

[shy glade]

Ok,

I look forward to your reply

[neat briar]

I have noticed logic errors in your sentences ratther than gramatical ones.

Here is their reform:

For your two past quizzes, I can solve and write code myself and that is the reason why I feel interested.
->
I was interested in your quizzes, because I can solve and write their code myself.

But in the case of the maze pathfinder algorithm, it is too professional to solve and write code with my programming skills. That's why I suggest you more suitable quiz.
->
However, the maze pathfinder algorithm is too professionals to solve and write myself with my skills. That's why I am suggesting that you do a more suitable skills.

Anyway, "easier said than done", in other words, "easier thinking than coding", as you told me, it is difficult to implement the solution of certain quizzes to coding, even though you find a perfect solution.
->
For me it's "Easier coding than thinking" (I assume the opposite, seeing how you sent the code first), as you have said, it's difficult to implement the solution of certain quizzes using coding.

What is the important one, "course" or "result" (I am not sure this expression is correct but I hope you understand me).
->
What's more important, the way you solve it, or it's result?

Actually, I misunderstood you that you tested my algorithm skill so I just sent my code(because coding means finding a solution/algorithm)
->
I misunderstood how you meant to test my algorithm skill, so I sent my code (Since coding means finding a solution / algorithm)

I didn't know you were a student and if I knew, I would try to explain in more detail. I apologize for that.

I did a reforms, in what I understood

---

As a reply, I would say that it depends.

Some might find maze algorithms easier than pascal triangle, some the other way around. It depends on the people.

Just so I wouldn't be confused, what do you mean by coding means finding a solution / algorithm?

[shy glade]

ah? I can't do coding without an algorithm. So if I do coding, it says I have a certain algorithm.

[neat briar]

Yes, you first think of an algorithm and then you code, and not the other way around.

Thinking about the algorithm comes first before coding

Which is why it is very odd to me that you can code first before explaining it

[shy glade]

Totally right, I thought you were testing my skill, and then I just sent my code thinking you could understand I already have an algorithm in my mind. If the code is right, it means the algorithm is also right

[neat briar]

Not always, if it needs to have certain complexity time

[shy glade]

A code is an implementation of an algorithm, you can guess the algorithm from my code. and also complexity of time

[neat briar]

Maybe I could, but without knowing the underlying knowledge of it, it's much more difficult

[shy glade]

yeah, you are right. plz, let's finish this argument. I get the picture.

Btw, it was nice talking

Umm, I would be happy if you let me know about you more.

Or shall I introduce myself first?

hello @neat briar ?

[neat briar]

Started making myself food

[neat briar]

Sure

[neat briar]

Once I have finished, sure

[shy glade]

Are you a native speaker? If so, which, I mean, American, British or Australian?

[bronze geyser]

Does any one know golang?

[shy glade]

Me

I can help if u wanna

[echo wraith]

public static void main(String[] args) Can someone explain me a syntax of Java? Like what actually mean this "publuc" and why we write (String[] args)?

[twin solar]

ask chatgpt

[pure copper]

Public means it's visible outside of the layer of abstraction, or class. In this case it's a special case as it is the main procedure, being the stsrting point of the program. From this procedure all other activities are started. The string[] args will hold the arguments that are entered on the operating system command line when the program starts.

String[] args is also an array of the arguments with the name 'args' held as string type.

[queen urchin]

Who's familiar with Bun here?

[thick mulch]

Hello all

[peak ridge]

Are there any Java Spring developers here?

[bright gate]

I'm here

[pure copper]

Indeed you are

[boreal magnet]

While ai alone side

[remote finch]

Hii, want to talk about recent Nautilus Article regarding Venmo, digital payment using Quantum Mechanics..

[muted terrace]

I have experience in Java but not much with Spring

[pine bay]

hey devs

[neat briar]

Deleted when I sent the message, guess I'll delete mine aswell

[pure copper]

Was doing to dm

@neat briar

[neat briar]

Oh, kk

If yee want to ask

No worries if you don't

Tis indeedly harsh

[lavish phoenix]

Hi everyone

[thick mulch]

I know HTML ,CSS . I was developing wordpress website , browser's inspect tool show HTML but files of my theme are in PHP language. how to edit my website using HTML,CSS permenantly (I can edit temporarely using inspect tool . ) ???

[round yoke]

It is programming channel? Are there here someone who using CLion? Maybe someone know: I can't make ssh tunnel connection for remote development... it don't want to read ssh config... I turn over whole internet....

[pure copper]

Tech support nightmare.

[shy glade]

I will be a cyber security officer 😎

[shy glade]

my new tool 😉
https://github.com/HalilDeniz/TrafficWatch

[shy glade]

Hello, I need help of developers!

[pure copper]

What exactly are you trying to do?

[shy glade]

when using chrome developer tools , The changes are reflected only on the client side, meaning in your browser (not on the actual server side) for a temporary period. If you refresh the page, the changes will disappear.

[quaint niche]

Are there anyone who knows about command of power shell to create user account?

[shy glade]

unleash the powers of https://www.google.com/ instead

[neat briar]

[shy glade]

I am here again, where are my old friends? I really miss them and their challenges

[shy glade]

I'm your new old friend

By the way, nice to meet you

[thick mulch]

I know it, iwant permanent changes in my site

[shy glade]

You can add custom CSS rules via the WordPress Customizer or by creating a custom CSS file in your theme. This allows you to control the visual appearance of your site without altering the HTML or PHP structure.

[rose glade]

nice workflow you have there

mobile coding

[mighty robin]

well if anyone really wants to customize what wordpress does, then it seems pointless to me unless they know PHP well, like u most likely wanna change the markup garbage which is being generated by those very crude engines

they clutter the markup with useless code, often unused, do the same with css and js too tbh, their code is not even semantic when it comes to html they write which is crucial for accesibility and good SEO

and their RWD can also be flawed sometimes, depending on what themes or plugins or whatever the user chose in those generators

like the quality of code those machines write is so low, most of the time, that it is crazy

[mighty robin]

sooo the best approach is just to not even touch stuff like those generators, and write html and css by yourself, maybe using frameworks like SCSS or libraries like bootstrap or tailwind, just like professionals do

like, even writing html is quite simple if one knows how to use emmet shortcuts

[unkempt pecan]

wow. so cool. i will give you 1 start

[unkempt pecan]

@shy glade what program language you use ? Is this python? I never see some code like you post 🧙‍♀️

[shy glade]

It looks like C++ to me

[pure copper]

I don't think neil cares what language he finds.

[pure copper]

Just an additional reply, if my previous disdain was not obvious enough, the ✂️🧴code for walking a maze gets a 0 for the problem of constructing a maze, which was the challenge.
Abrahams and I are not students that need you to explain the code, rather we are attempting to get you to explain the idea that let you 'create such a marvelous algorithm so quickly and detached from any link to reality.'

The following is anger: ||ufjfjdjrjfcj jcufhehducucucjcjdbrbebdhcuch. Ufufuduruducu ucjejrhrucucucifj ufurucuvufjjr ucujrurfufuv jcurfjfugiddueudufiv ufurjfiugucfjfjrf jj uvu ||

[unkempt pecan]

i thing it like javaScript code with Nodejs V8. But look like the code render by openAl .

[shy glade]

What do you mean? It's so aggressive...Programmers are often care about their languages.

[shy glade]

It's never JavaScript. It's C

[shy glade]

Hey, I can't understand why you are so aggressive to me now. It seems that you misunderstand me. I never said you are a student and I said Abrahams, not you. I understand you are trying to help me improve my ability to explain my code in English, so I felt thank you. I just thought Abrams was learning programming, so I tried to advise him, not you.

[shy glade]

In addition, if I say about your maze challenge, I already said mine is a standard cord(I mean not my own code and just template code)

[shy glade]

Please don't care what she said. She considers me an evil now because of some misunderstanding.

[pure copper]

Sorry for being aggressive

[shy glade]

Oh, I really hope we can make up. I thought that you hate me because you never reply to me since that time

[queen urchin]

Why don't programmers like nature? Because it has too many bugs!

[shy glade]

Yes, I agree that the quality of code generated by WordPress page builders and other tools is often poor as they're designed to be easy to use, even for people with no coding experience. I was just answering their question but yeah I completely agree with you . the best approach is just to learn web dev .

[mighty robin]

yeah, like, i didnt mean to sound offensive, i just express opinions pretty strongly sometimes and even if someone disagrees with what i said then fine

[plush ether]

Hey guys, in international community what language is more required?

[queen urchin]

Why do programmers always mix up Christmas and Halloween? Because Oct 31 == Dec 25!

[hollow linden]

english, for sure

hey guys, anyone have ideas how to train for some english interviews?

[shy glade]

Hello

It's programming channel, why don't you go to English-question channel

[hollow linden]

well, I was supposing I can ask here because it's about programming, interviews for programmer jobs, but it's ok, I'll try to ask on question channel

[pure copper]

Esperanto

[pure copper]

You will need to show that, you know the language they require, or are flexible enough to pick it up quickly, that you can work in teams with other people, that you can follow instructions, think out of the box, can produce your own solutions to a design problem without running to Google for an answer, can express yourself, you are not overly shy and not cocky. Think of examples in your life or work experience that can be used to show the traits, and be be able to recall them quickly when questions are asked. Also know the company you are trying to work for. What they do, who they are, what are their competitors, what is their vision, and ensure you can weird your answers to show how you can fit in with their business.

[pure copper]

Are you talking about spoken language, or computer languages?

[hollow linden]

thanks for the tips, I'm still working on it, I have some ideas how to answer the interview but I don't have any idea how's about one interview in another language (english), I'll follow your tips and I hope to get some feedback's soon...

[lone marlin]

Hello folk

What do you think? In the future which programming language will be so popular?

[wooden hazel]

what group of programming languages do you mean?

low-level, mixed-level, high-level, bullshit level, insane level?

If you have to leave this planet for some reason in the near future and head to some other planetary system, which programming language would you like to take with you?

php? 😉

java?

COBOL?

C#, C++ ?

Delphi?

VB?

C?

what programming language was available for the HAL 9000 from Space Odyssey?

the best you have is your brain, hopefully

[pure copper]

Ludicrous Level

[pure copper]

Yes. This

[barren bison]

hello.. guys.

Are there anybody?

[shy glade]

hello

hi guys

how do i start learning a programming language here?

[shy glade]

you can ask questions what you can't understand here

[pure copper]

Have you ever seen a program before?

[shy glade]

i may have but i didnt know how they look like

i study computer and i wanna learn a programing language

[pure copper]

Will you not be learning a language with your computer course, or are you learning computers by yourself?

[karmic gazelle]

Hi everyone!

I'm also programmer. I wanna share experience with you!

[shy glade]

Hi, which language do you know?

[karmic gazelle]

javascript,python and etc

also Laravel and React

I'm studying Angular now

[shy glade]

where are you from

[karmic gazelle]

Canada

[shy glade]

I see

[karmic gazelle]

And U?

[shy glade]

nice to meet you

[karmic gazelle]

nice to meet U too

are U also programmer?

anybody there?

[karmic gazelle]

Hi! I have some problems. Is there anybody who can help me?

[forest shore]

i'm an android developer

[karmic gazelle]

have you ever develop Angular?

sorry, nice to meet U!

[pure copper]

It seems all these conversation boots crash!

Can anyone debug the social ineptitude?

[sturdy hound]

Hi! Is there anybody who can help me in teaching C !

[pure copper]

Do you want to teach c or learn c?

[flint ledge]

alguien programa con javascript?

[pure copper]

Neil says he does.

[mossy summit]

Is there any web dev?

[shy glade]

Yes, I do

[pure copper]

Ooooo csn i get Job

[shy glade]

Here

[pure copper]

I was here first. @shy glade

[shy glade]

Are you web dev? really?