Roast My Image™

[icy gorge]

is this the image i have to roast or just a single sub

your veil looks like the witch head 😭

and bro what is that coma

[meager bone]

Why would int time affect the clarity of the image it's not like its noisy or anything

[waxen phoenix]

have u looked into astronomik L3 filter

it would help w ur blue fringing

[north juniper]

How much would it compared to something like a fringe killer?

[north juniper]

Yeah it was a stacked image

[marble wagon]

more light from target allows for more contrast before it becomes noisy

[meager bone]

No i think its just processing his stars are desaturated

It looks like if you used inverse GHS

It has a similar look to it

[modern blade]

You made an emission nebula look like a dark nebula.

[north juniper]

Tbf it was barely any integration

That was where it first went wrong

[icy gorge]

ron? is that you?

[quiet drift]

once you get called ron its OVER! NO RECOVERY!

https://tenor.com/view/anothersdays-gif-8682649277694789514

[viral helm]

Nah that low-key looks cool

[frigid falcon]

yo who tf is ron 💔

[humble tiger]

even ron can get better images

[iron scarab]

Is this worse than Alex Woronow

[meager bone]

Its roast my image not compliment it

[snow forge]

Please roast it to the maximum

[ivory sleet]

Roast

[marble wagon]

i honestly thought those were terrible gradients, i do think there is some gradienting but its okayish ig, hella over denoised and theres ugly stars in the corners

[ivory sleet]

Thanks

Thata the ifn

[ivory sleet]

Denoised cuz i didnt ditger

[silver shoal]

I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain how much this wants makes me to rip my eyes out

[ivory sleet]

[marble wagon]

polaris double star

[ivory sleet]

Ffom my pic?

[marble wagon]

no, i took it

[ivory sleet]

No way

[marble wagon]

?

[ivory sleet]

I can see the double star in my pic too

Cant we see @marble wagon teaeepy

[marble wagon]

i cant see it

polaris is too stretched to see it

[marble wagon]

yea, its not there

[ivory sleet]

How long lens did i have

[marble wagon]

?????

[ivory sleet]

Mm?

[silver shoal]

I think they have an RC 6, which is No Lens but a reflector telescope with a focal lenght of 1370ish mm ?

Could be wrong tho

[ivory sleet]

[marble wagon]

no, i have a 6" newt with an fl of 750mm

[silver shoal]

Well i stand corrected 🙂

[humble tiger]

do it. roast my image

[viral helm]

So blury

Weird diffraction spikes

[viral helm]

Weird color palette

The solar pallet™ looks better

[humble tiger]

diffraction spikes are peak

[marble wagon]

too much btx

[humble tiger]

lmao

[marble wagon]

you the new fray balls

[humble tiger]

[north juniper]

Kudos to people that know this target behind the blankets of ugly

[marble wagon]

its the hairnet nebula!

[north juniper]

I prefer hairball, but you go tea!

[marble wagon]

it always reminds me of hairnets not whatever people say they look like

[north juniper]

Wonder what blurx would do to the image tbh

Haven't run it

And it's pretty old

[marble wagon]

oh noes

[frigid falcon]

i mean it looks ok…

[iron scarab]

"we have Crescent Nebula at home"

[ivory sleet]

The crescent nebula at home

[meager surge]

c shape nebula

[viral helm]

Roast 😭

[humble tiger]

that veil looks so sad😭 ts making me depressed

[iron scarab]

the Veil and Crescent are sad if you don't use narrowband tbh

[frigid falcon]

im crine

[tribal saffron]

what are we looking at mr bob

[iron scarab]

I believe the technical term for it is an "image"

[quiet drift]

youtube 3i atlas alien ai slop channels:

[orchid talon]

how tje fck did you make that so quick

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/aliens-gif-6373829514467264942

[subtle cosmos]

"Roast"

[frigid falcon]

🥰🥰

[meager surge]

"roast" twin that looks like coal 😭 ✌️ 🌾

[quiet drift]

did you put these through the cremator

[quiet drift]

this went through a cremator as well

[subtle cosmos]

I think no one is getting my roast

[wraith tiger]

so much noise in this image i've gone deaf before you even thought about posting it

[bright root]

I'm either hallucinating or I see the tiniest sign of horse

I feel like I see it

[frigid falcon]

noise?? 😭

can you not tell how much its denoised

[wraith tiger]

Can’t believe you’ve gone deaf too..

You can’t even notice it yourself?

damn

[meager bone]

I can see flame

But barely

[exotic willow]

vro you should put it down atp

[zenith fossil]

All the gear, none of the brains

[iron scarab]

buddy you can't background extract your way out of not taking flats and into being a good astrophotographer

[iron scarab]

Nice chromaticity noise, it's as shame it's interrupted by stars

[marble wagon]

why is is it blueeeee

[bronze mortar]

I know rigjt

[marble wagon]

blue shuldnt be geem

[zenith fossil]

They should change the pride flag to this image since it has more representation

[humble tiger]

ive never seen a duller orion in my life😭

[limpid thicket]

What is that

[marble wagon]

i think everyone would rather be cishet than have that as a flag

[north juniper]

Sad Lil monkey head nebula

[ocean yarrow]

i love how the pics people post here are so much better than anything ive managed to achieve so far 😭

[bright root]

brown dwarf roleis back???

[ocean yarrow]

my horrible untracked A3 Atlas from last year (the original edit looked a lot worse, believe or not)
least i managed to capture it

[limpid thicket]

What?

[tribal saffron]

ha get scatted on

[zenith fossil]

Seestar?

(Genuine question)

[zenith fossil]

I did a thing

[zenith fossil]

You realise there’s more to astrophotographer than point and shoot right

[north juniper]

No 💀

Its my rig

[meager surge]

phone ap

[ocean yarrow]

is this a roast of my editing
cuz i can assure you the data is just garbage too lol

[marble wagon]

its a genuine question

did you stack

or is it just a single image

[ocean yarrow]

oh mb i thought i included that info in the original msg
this is a reprocess of the data back when i had no idea what i was doing (started off just doing regular photography before astro) where i managed to after some difficulty to stack a few frames which did give me somewhat of a better result compared to the original

but the original data is just so bad that its kinda hopeless...

[marble wagon]

ohh

[zenith fossil]

Do your worst

[tribal saffron]

the horses ass nebula

[marble wagon]

you created this, thats a toast in itself

[meager surge]

holy diffraction spike

[median skiff]

Would you like some nebula with your diffraction spikes?

[zenith fossil]

The image is too good for a legit roast

Yall know you can’t control diffraction spikes

[marble wagon]

yes

curved spikes

[strange pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/ai-ia-intelligence-artificielle-artificial-intelligence-bann-gif-15493397896941285701

[sly portal]

genuinely this process isn’t it cheif

denoise is way to strong, the details are cooked, the ha looks fake and alnitak is not making it easier

[zenith fossil]

The first good roast

[zenith fossil]

Do better then

[sly portal]

data doesn’t look fun enough to process

i gotta do m81 again for mr maarten

[zenith fossil]

Booooo

Meanie

I’ll have a higher int one in a couple weeks

[sly portal]

i’ll have a go at that one

[tribal saffron]

@tribal saffron

[bright root]

that's me

[sly cape]

the "good" version

[sly cape]

the glare is on par with ARK

[icy gorge]

Bro that image was 2 months ago 😭 🙏

[sly cape]

have you discovered dithering yet

[icy gorge]

Yes I have

And i have an actual eq mount now

[sly cape]

good use it

[icy gorge]

I did

[zenith fossil]

Diabolical 💀

[cyan cliff]

Can't seem to get the stupid masking and weird distortion fixed.... I'm still a fresh beginner 😔

[viscid owl]

nothing a couple rounds of graxpert cant fix

[cyan cliff]

Unfortunately I have no PC available :)

[bright root]

please do not run multiple rounds of graxpert 😭

[viscid owl]

[zenith fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-hyperspeed-millenium-falcon-gif-16139679

[strange pivot]

The power of cropping

[cursive ledge]

From Bortle 5

[cyan cliff]

Nothing to roast here

[tepid berry]

Really? 🥺

[cyan cliff]

Ofc

[iron scarab]

There's something to roast here

[tepid berry]

Oh no now I’m getting roasted

[tepid berry]

Can’t find anything to roast honestly 😭

[tribal saffron]

most generic DSO
most generic Processing
most generic Data

[iron scarab]

OMG! ANDROMEDA AT 200 MILLIMETERS WITH A ONE-SHOT COLOR CAMERA, I'VE NEVER SEEN AN IMAGE LIKE THIS

[tepid berry]

LMAO

[tepid berry]

Someone wanted to be special and still chose the most default target. And why tf does it make the nice blues of Orion look grey

[cyan cliff]

Ik I might sound extremely stupid but why are the stars red

[iron scarab]

The image maps IR to the red channel and H-alpha to green and blue

[cyan cliff]

Nice

[meager bone]

Zoom in

[cyan cliff]

What am I looking for?

[meager bone]

Color noise

Its a tad over stretched as well

[cyan cliff]

Well yeah I noticed the blue was very imminent but it isn't that big

[meager bone]

Look in the background there is blue red and green streaks and blobs

[cyan cliff]

Ohhh I see now you're right

[tepid berry]

It's funny how nobody noiticed so far that there is a green blob litterally on M110

[iron scarab]

that's because nobody cares about generic images of Andromeda.

[meager bone]

There are lots of green blobs

[tepid berry]

You spent money on IR equipment to make ur stars an ugly red

[marble wagon]

i see someone isnt a fan of the pretty red stars

[tepid berry]

Who tf would make money to change the hue of their starmask to red

I can do that in gimp

[marble wagon]

your stars wont be in ir tho

[tepid berry]

Good lord they shine in full spectrum who cares

[marble wagon]

the dust

[tepid berry]

[meager bone]

Yeah but you got uvir cut soo not full spectrum

[tepid berry]

Well no one can capture full spectrum

Don’t think there is cameras that can detect meter long wavelengths

[meager bone]

They dont emit radio waves well they do but its not their main emissions they do it in burst and its not from the surface its more of an emission from their magnetic fields

Their majority of emissions is in the ir-uv range

[tepid berry]

Wait

No

Doesn’t it emit everywhere

According to Plancks law

Just very „dim“

[meager bone]

No

It way too hot

And way too cold for x rays and gamma rays

[tepid berry]

Plancks law is differentiable and continuous and obviously positive though right?

So wouldn’t every blackbody emit in every frequency

Or is this just for an assumed perfect blackbody?

I should know this I’m studying physics haha

[meager bone]

You are kind of correct it should emit across the entire spectrum but at a certain temperature the fraction of light that is emitted as long wavelengths drops so low like 0.000000000000001% that its basically 0

Also here is the formula if you want to have some fun I'm like 90% sure it the right one

[tepid berry]

Ig it will be zero because the energy is quantitized?

[tepid berry]

No that’s the wrong one

yea thats the wrong one

thats Stefan Boltzmann Law

for thermal radiation

This one doesnt even tell you what wavelength the radiation is Q is only the Total power output

for wavelength there is the Reyleight-Jeans Criterion. Which is wrong because it leads to infinite Energy if you integrate over the Ultra Violet part (Ultra Violet catastrophe)

The right one is Plancks Law which accounts for the Quantization of Energy and therefore makes the total energy of the cruve finite

[meager bone]

yeah i had my doubts

[viscid owl]

exactly how i wouldve put it

[zenith fossil]

@strange pivot send it

[strange pivot]

Bruh cmon man

Pls don’t

Let me feel good abt one image

[subtle cosmos]

Bro wants carnage

[zenith fossil]

A perfect edit was RIGHT there like seriously this has so much potential but no you completely ruined it and have shown your incredible ability to produce shit from gold

[strange pivot]

More pale than Atlanta

[zenith fossil]

more pale than badunkie looking in the mirror on a summers day

[strange pivot]

Okok I’m not even that pale

Sorry for being white

[iron scarab]

Wow, rude. Go process the data yourself then
#1444461927882293333

[strange pivot]

Speaking of which @zenith fossil if you wanted to roast my image you could’ve done that like just after I processed it not now that I’m proud of it

[zenith fossil]

I’d rather wait to see your monstrosities final form

[strange pivot]

Bruh

[zenith fossil]

Me when I’m winning Roast My Image

Greatest thread ever

[strange pivot]

There’s a fine line between roasting and just being a dick bro

[zenith fossil]

statistically the best thread on astrobiscuit

[strange pivot]

I am happy with my image bro don’t change that

[zenith fossil]

Cope and seethe

[iron scarab]

Well, good thing you're winning Roast My Image™ because if you were entering one of the competitions you run you'd end up in last place every time

[zenith fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/i-guess-well-see-clarence-thomas-saturday-night-live-we-shall-see-its-to-be-determined-gif-25522836

[iron scarab]

-# Sorry that wasn't an image I just felt spicy

[sly cape]

tf are these colours

feel like i have deuteranopia just looking at it

[tepid berry]

Maybe you have deuterantropia?

Or ya monitor is just ass

[sly cape]

amoled its pretty good

[tepid berry]

It is common for OLED and AMOLED display to have green tint

[sly cape]

guess every screen in my house has a green tint cuz it looks the same on them other than saturation differences

[opal totem]

Saddest crescent you will ever see, stock dslr, no filter, full moon, 5 hours

[cyan cliff]

Did anybody else say that or is it just you?

Might needa get your eyes checked 😭

[tepid berry]

guess it might be ur eyes then

[tepid berry]

bro, you where NOT supposed to roast ur own image

also , I HAVE SEEN WORSE

[tepid berry]

I HAVE SEEN WORSE

[opal totem]

HOW?

[tepid berry]

Look the one I linked up there haha

[opal totem]

oh wow

maybe you have seen wors

[sly cape]

does it have an iron deficiency

[opal totem]

boneless crescent

[meager bone]

Roast my image

[bright root]

are you trying to make pixel art with this compression?

wait its a png

how the hell did you make a png look like a crappy jpg

[north juniper]

Suppose thats insulting discord more than him

[bright root]

yes

[north juniper]

Im a suckered for orion, besides the fact you decided not enough integration would suffice

[bright root]

this isnt even a roast i just want to know

[meager bone]

Its been compressed twice thru discord

[meager bone]

my processing is what's terrible

[north juniper]

Share data

[meager bone]

I need to restack it first

[meager bone]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1pGWGuwGwhB8BLDhzYDo2rTBIPFaRfD_F

[meager bone]

@north juniper

[north juniper]

Mb forgot

Its 3am rn so ill do it tonight

Ykno, after my day

Not like tonight as in rn

[meager bone]

Alright

[meager bone]

Forgot to crop a bit in top corner other than that i cant complain

[strange pivot]

show what you mean pls?

ohhh i see

[meager bone]

Top right corner

[strange pivot]

stacking artefacts

[meager bone]

Ik

[meager bone]

Oh and also some hot pixels

[strange pivot]

true i found a coupl ejust then

[obtuse trellis]

Roast my Honse

[gloomy sierra]

long

[marble wagon]

how even do this?

[obtuse trellis]

Ask @cloud edge

[obtuse trellis]

Whatever he did to my image, it definitely looks much honsier 🤣

[cloud edge]

Ask asifits viewer, setting it to bin2 did whatever that was

[marble wagon]

😭

[obtuse trellis]

A masterpiece... that's what it is

[humble tiger]

these colours are dreadfull to say the least

[humble tiger]

honse (5min)

[obtuse trellis]

Wrong. That's Honse (200 minutes)

[marble wagon]

honse (honse minutes

[zenith fossil]

Oh nice I hadn’t seen this here

I won’t comment however, I don’t want to hurt your feelings.

[tepid berry]

Actually why lol I don’t get why everyone think that the colors are off

[gilded wasp]

We love crescent

[gilded wasp]

The booger cluster

[north juniper]

Someone in a Facebook group couldnt tell it was Crescent for a minute cause its that bad 😂

[gilded wasp]

Damn

[north juniper]

Tbf it was my first night using the uranus C with my telescope

But yeah its bad

Here guys roast my reworked pacman. Its 2 hours

And here's the original to laugh at even more

[marble wagon]

w unfry

[north juniper]

Yeah I really needed more/better data to sharpen it some 😔

[viral helm]

😭

[viscid owl]

fym 200 seconds unguided

[viral helm]

unguided like no guidecam

[strange pivot]

Very successful comment should have its own hall of roasts

[orchid talon]

much like the inside of your skull, your images are all an amorphous blob of gray

[zenith fossil]

Your background and details are almost as smooth as your brain

[tribal saffron]

they look like my untracked images from 2023

[viral helm]

which specifically

[tepid berry]

what the diff spike

[marble wagon]

herbig harrow object!!!!

[obtuse trellis]

Another red blob

[meager surge]

alnitak attack

[strange pivot]

oh no a large diffraction spike from a super bright star, guess my secondary is cnc'ed well

[meager bone]

Doesn't even need to be cnc'ed 3d print can do the same

[strange pivot]

i dont have petg and dont want my scondary to one day slip off into my primary

[meager bone]

Why would it slip off

[strange pivot]

warping in uv light

[meager bone]

Tbh my biggest concern is the spider breaking when I collimate but thats an easy fix just hold the secondary while collimating i made mine from petg and this is the result altho i think I'm gonna reprint it

[strange pivot]

yeah petg is the only real choice and i dont have any and cant be shat bc id rather have a block of steel for 2x the price of a roll

also if you can print your secondary you should invest in baffles as well

[meager bone]

Although idk why i have that halo

[meager bone]

Yeah i was gonna do that

[strange pivot]

reflections

you need baffles, a mirror mask, and flocking on the spider and focusser

[meager bone]

I have a mirror mask installed still need to get flocking paper and somehow figure out a design for baffles

[strange pivot]

what are your scope specs?

[meager bone]

I got 150p quattro

[strange pivot]

nice i have the 200

good line of scopes

[meager bone]

Other than the fact that it has a crap ton of light leak

[strange pivot]

you can make a cap for the back of the primary?

[meager bone]

Yeah but the focuser has a gap

[strange pivot]

flocking?

[meager bone]

Idk that might work but i was thinking of just 3d printing a ring thag just block the gap entirely

[strange pivot]

easy

do you know if the focusser is the same on the 200p?

[meager bone]

Also reflections from what can't be my uvir or coma corrector i removed both and its still there in the process discovering that the mirror mask makes me have zero coma lmao

[meager bone]

Yup isn't the same on all the quattro line ups

[strange pivot]

isnt?

[meager bone]

Isnt it the same*

[strange pivot]

Idk

[meager bone]

What about this

[strange pivot]

thats odd

[cloud radish]

Make that star a little dimmer and it would be worth my time

[strange pivot]

We can’t do our worst when the worst has already been sent

[zenith fossil]

It sure has

[strange pivot]

I think you replied to the wrong image

[meager bone]

I figured out a way to make even PLA filament work with a spider so basically you just stack the spider ontop of the stock spider vane you get the strength of the metal spider with the optical quality of the plastic spider

[strange pivot]

Sounds redundant

[zenith fossil]

Really making it easy for yall

[strange pivot]

Poopiter

[marble wagon]

never do ap ever again

[tepid berry]

why aint it round

[zenith fossil]

It’s not perfectly round tbf

Most Jupiter photos are oblong iirc

[meager bone]

Go check #1233917530989395968 message we spent a while explaining

Once you click scroll up

[tepid berry]

come on its not THAT OBLONG

[meager bone]

Yup it is

[tepid berry]

I just realized

wait

[meager bone]

Also atmospheric refraction makes it worse

[tepid berry]

the centrifugal force is 22.6m/s^2 at its equator?!

that shits crazy

[tepid berry]

if i didnt f**k up my calculations rn

[tepid berry]

which is basically same as jupiters gravity

[tepid berry]

so that aint no optical effect thats actually its shape?

honestly crazy

[meager bone]

Yeah

[subtle cosmos]

This is your hint that it's wrong

I think you missed a zero somewhere, should be around 2.26 m s^-2

[tepid berry]

lolz i hate working with numberssss

wait

lemme check

and redo

yea nvm 2.2 m/s^2

roughly 10% reduced gravity still though

thats a lot

[stark plume]

Why do people even post their amazing images here expecting to be roasted

Like what do they think we’re gonna respond with

“uhh… your reds are too… orange”

[marble wagon]

heres a shit image to roast

have fun!

[tepid berry]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-spongebob-blurred-distorted-squidward-gif-17355385

[marble wagon]

compression be like

[obtuse trellis]

Did you even bothered to focus the telescope?😭

[ruby veldt]

Your stars are a bit out of focus how stupid hahahahha

[tribal saffron]

no theyre focused

they're just blunt

[ruby veldt]

Nah they are off by 0.000001 such a stupid mistake

What a bad image

[ruby veldt]

I mean he asked

[marble wagon]

colimation off and no coma corrector + star trailing + shitty aberation corrector :3333

makes a lovely soup

[frigid falcon]

shot with a planewave

[viral helm]

Uhm what happened with the nebula? The background is too dark but the nebula is erm broken

You broke the best nebula

[frigid falcon]

wow tyler lover

😍😍😍

[viral helm]

Fr

[marble wagon]

worst nebula

[viral helm]

No

[marble wagon]

only intresting in ir

[viral helm]

And broadband

[marble wagon]

no

[viral helm]

Yes

[meager surge]

what gausian blur does to a mf

[marble wagon]

impossible to roast

[meager bone]

Too much purple

[meager surge]

grape soda or something idk

[tribal saffron]

Looks like my tarantula Nebula image

[iron scarab]

I took it earlier so you plagiarized me, js

[tribal saffron]

[viral helm]

I wanna say uhh thanos?

[obtuse trellis]

#1326833769495269376 message

[viral helm]

I now hate Orion nebula

[viral helm]

I now despise Orion nebula

[viral helm]

Plz stop 😭😭😭 I already hate it enough now

Okay that isn't bad

[viral helm]

The others are horrible tho

[north juniper]

Compared to me rework on it, it is

[viral helm]

Wdym

[viral helm]

Yk what that's good

[north juniper]

This is the reworked one

[viral helm]

Not loading 🙁

[north juniper]

Makes me hate the original attempt

[viral helm]

Ooo

[viral helm]

That's tuff

[north juniper]

Ngl hate this one too. Needed more int

[viral helm]

Nah it just looks flat

[north juniper]

Needed more int

[viral helm]

Yea tbf, how much was that?

[north juniper]

27 minutes

[viral helm]

That's not bad for 27, I got this in 30

[north juniper]

Im so glad you're tracking now

[viral helm]

Same bro

[marble wagon]

was there even a point of u getting tracking if ur still only getting 30 mins of data

[viral helm]

Clouds 🙁 I was planning on more

[marble wagon]

guiding when?

[viral helm]

some point 😭

[marble wagon]

how i got guiding before u :(

[viral helm]

Well idk if I need guiding lowkey

since im on a dslr at 140mm

https://ptb.discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/1458182498084454531 roast the later ones plz (ik the first ones are bad)

[marble wagon]

do you enjoy walking noise or something

[viral helm]

yes

[north juniper]

I feel targeted tea

[dusky lance]

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[strange pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-wow-scars-costume-makeup-burns-halloween-gif-13806384

[icy gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/neon-red-blue-lights-gif-26024387

Beat saber ahh

https://tenor.com/view/beat-saber-blocks-denyah-mixed-reality-gif-25298199

[iron scarab]

request granted

[meager bone]

Why so noisy

Looks like those bench marks for computers that are in the early stages of getting rendered

[iron scarab]

Single 3-minute subs per SHO channel

[meager bone]

Oh

[iron scarab]

actually this is probably a good candidate image to test L1 impulse noise reduction techniques

[marble wagon]

no, just no

[limber moth]

I think theres some stars in this......whatever this is

[icy gorge]

Man where do I even start 😭

[opal totem]

https://tenor.com/view/true-morgan-freeman-big-shoe-lmfao-big-true-lmfao-get-this-man-a-true-gif-178287982860173795

[viscid owl]

how did you manage to streak some stars but not others?

[opal totem]

DSS

[bright root]

This isnt even a roast but I genuinely thought you sent a stellarium screenshot for a second

It looks very similar

[opal totem]

https://tenor.com/view/gus-gif-23309277

[marble wagon]

too pretty, get this shit outta here!!!

[iron scarab]

Aww, you couldn't pull out color with baby's first telescope (which has an OSC sensor btw)

[obtuse trellis]

Damn

[viscid owl]

😂 its so obvious im not even gonna say it

even a beginner could tell whats wrong

[marble wagon]

the bg is slightly green, pls fix

no its not

just had night mode on

sorgy

[strange pivot]

Feels like it probs wouldn’t get iotd

Also get baffle

[tepid berry]

Bro is shooting black and white and still getting chromatic noise

[tepid berry]

That looks sooo gooooood my gawd I can’t roast this

What telescope?

Actually tell me all specs

[obtuse trellis]

#1454250299924676638 message
#1460394221180813395 message

[iron scarab]

Roast my Abell 426

[marble wagon]

ugly ass ovals

where int time?????

you could hardly get any of the nebula out

[iron scarab]

I find myself asking this question to the skies

[marble wagon]

same

atp this channel is 90% projection

[obtuse trellis]

Most of the server is refraction.
So little reflection

[marble wagon]

it so saaaaddddd

also 25% obstructed area on a 6" mirror is not too baaad

i shoud get a 12" class cass for this

[obtuse trellis]

With a Newton, yes... you are obstructing the primary mirror. But with RCTs and cassegrain telescopes in general, you don't really cover it.

Think about it. There is no mirror to obstruct.

[marble wagon]

im planning on modding a class cass into a rasa

also it is still an obstruction

of a hole in the mirror

[obtuse trellis]

That would make it a prime focus cassegrain

[marble wagon]

i didnt know tha actual name

this was meant to go in the rct chat 😭

[obtuse trellis]

RASA has the Schmidt plate and afaik it has spherical mirror

[marble wagon]

it do have a shmid plate and a sphere morror :(

which is why mine will be better

[obtuse trellis]

Ok... that's not the actual name. The actual name is just prime focus 😂

[marble wagon]

bleh

so a pft?

prome formcus tleescoe

[meager bone]

Yeah sure it might not reduce your light gathering but it will reduce your diffraction limit

[marble wagon]

not when the hole is already there

[meager bone]

Overall

If you had a perfect aperture without the secondary

[obtuse trellis]

You can compensate with a bigger aperture

[meager bone]

Yeah but it's heavy and expensive

[marble wagon]

get 14" class cass and a fork mount

ez fixxx

[obtuse trellis]

Compared to a fr*c? It's pretty much free

[meager bone]

It because most people want easy results that look decent it takes a lot of skill and luck to get good results from a reflector

[marble wagon]

reflector take little to no effor

[meager bone]

Artifacts that you have to pixel peep to see on refractor become huge pain in a reflector

[obtuse trellis]

Well... there's the difference.
Decent vs Good. I'd rather put in some effort and get good images than decent ones😂

[obtuse trellis]

Give me an example

[meager bone]

Take tracking for example or wind

Most reflectors with small sensors if you breath on them they will have trail fracts not so much

[obtuse trellis]

Tracking is user fault. Wind, just get a sturdy mount

[meager bone]

That Gets expensive fast

[obtuse trellis]

I get details like this, fracs not so much

[meager bone]

Ngl they get the same details

Unless thats like way sharper and discord compression kinda fed it up

Well idk they just special then they like fracs what can i say

I was gonna argue for widefield but then i remembered rasa exists

[obtuse trellis]

Again. Reflector 😂

[meager bone]

Yup ik ig one argument for refractors is no collimation hassle but idk if thats worth it over the down sides of refractors

[obtuse trellis]

No colimation... yes. But you can't do anything about the chromatic aberration

[marble wagon]

reducing ca requires a whole new redesign of every piece of glass in the system

(unless ur shooting 1nm narroeband or something)

[meager bone]

Yeah unless you spend 20k on a tak and also wait about 10 years give or take

[marble wagon]

i would rather spend 8k on a good mount and 12k on a good scope

[obtuse trellis]

Oooor. Spend half of that on an overkill mount and a 300P and get stupendesly sharp images

[marble wagon]

hey, dont stop at 300p

[meager bone]

Yeah

[marble wagon]

can go further

[meager bone]

Get a 16 inch and a fork mount on a wedge

[marble wagon]

no one in their right mind would spend 20k on a small peice of glass

[obtuse trellis]

Eh... 300 is a good compromise. Then the focal length becomes unusable

[marble wagon]

orr go bigger and get an f2 sytem

[obtuse trellis]

Every frac glazer on the planet?

[marble wagon]

😭

[meager bone]

I was exaggerating but its like 10k or sum let me check

[marble wagon]

price to performance is NOT worth it

for any frac ig exept the new svboner ones

those have the price of what you would expect from them

[obtuse trellis]

Plus. In this server alone. The sharpest images are from reflectors

[marble wagon]

look at astrobin

[obtuse trellis]

I get eye cancer. Alex scares me

[marble wagon]

i think thats more user error for the fracs tho

[marble wagon]

people just dont care about backfocus and stuff apparently

its scary

[meager bone]

Damn i was way off its cheaper than i remember them about 3k usd

[obtuse trellis]

You know how annoying it is when a retcat or equivalent user says that that he is sharp?

[meager bone]

I get eye cancer every time i glance at astrobin i swear nobody can get good images unless they own a planewave or ASA telescope

[obtuse trellis]

Oh... don't worry. I've seen some eyesoring PW and ASA images

[meager bone]

I once saw a dude with a setup the price of both of my cars with worst images than my 6 inch in b9

Like how do you mess up that badly

[marble wagon]

lil 51mm of appature is nothing

[obtuse trellis]

Same as my CO

[meager bone]

What's CO

[marble wagon]

i think my co is about the same size too

[obtuse trellis]

Central obstruction

[meager bone]

Oh I'm pretty sure my central obstruction is bigger than 51mm i think mine was 65mm

Let me double check that

[obtuse trellis]

Oh... nvm. Mine is 47mm on axis

[meager bone]

Yeah 64mm

I like how my secondary is 1/3rd of my total aperture

[marble wagon]

[marble wagon]

its still only like idk how much of the area covered tho

prolly like 1/6 or somethint

[meager bone]

Yeah its like 20% or sum like that its 18%

[marble wagon]

my co is like 11-15% the area

[obtuse trellis]

Mine is 13%. That explains my luck with this telescope

[meager bone]

How come mines the biggest ratio

I guess its because its a small sensor

🤦‍♂️

I mean telescope lol

[obtuse trellis]

You got the Quattro, right?

150

[meager bone]

Yeah

[obtuse trellis]

Now... think about the size of the light cone where it needs to be folded and still have a focal point outside of the tube

[marble wagon]

i have exploer 150p so smoller obstruction :3

[obtuse trellis]

The faster the telescope, the larger is the CO.

[meager bone]

Yup but tbh it's kinda overkill for my needs lol

But not bothered to get a smaller ones so 18% it is

[meager bone]

Nice tbh i think f5 is better because it coveres the diffraction limit way better

[obtuse trellis]

@marble wagon I got cool optical animation for you.
Unfortunately is messed up because I messed up the interferogam

[meager bone]

Whats that black dot

[obtuse trellis]

The bullseye of the interferogram. It should've been outside of the mirror

[meager bone]

Oh

[marble wagon]

the kapow of the iterevergogram

[gilded wasp]

Your chromatic aberration is somehow worse than mine and that’s impressive

[north juniper]

You havent seen bad

Svbony 48p

[gilded wasp]

holy shit

[north juniper]

I actually manage on the fma180 really well

[gilded wasp]

that wild

[tepid berry]

This is my try with the same setup as him and a lot less integration time

[gilded wasp]

damn thats good

how do you make the stars edible

[tepid berry]

LMAO

i dont know my stars are really good from the go usually

Its mostly just streetching them correctly

[gilded wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-hump-hump-cat-dance-i-wish-gif-654672730734888209

[tepid berry]

i use star removal starnet++ and later put them back in

for this image particularly i sharpened them a tiny bit with cosmic clarity

but i dont have BlurX or anything like that

so its mostly like that from the start

this is still Roast My Image btw

[gilded wasp]

i get that but dude my halos are booty

like generously this is the best i can get them

plus im oversampled which is just glorious

but i heard mono will help me

so i might go there

[tepid berry]

What is that little star cloud to the upper left of bodes

[viscid owl]

dwarf galaxy, Holmberg IX

[tepid berry]

Ist das wirklich ein Begleiter von Bodes?

also sowas wie die magellanschen wolken in der milchstraße

ist die auch auf meinem eigenem Bild von vor einem Jahr zu sehen?

oder halluziniere ich

[viscid owl]

It's a satellite galaxy

"It is a Magellanic type galaxy, similar to the Small Magellanic Cloud, neighbour galaxy to the Milky Way Galaxy"

[tepid berry]

awesome

thank you!

[iron scarab]

Roast my pride and joy

[exotic willow]

gluten tag, idk what your saying but thats holmberg ix, sattilite of m81

[tepid berry]

Ah okay danke

[inner terrace]

If this is you when you're proud im scared to see your images when you aren't proud of them

[humble tiger]

looks like the pot of greed

https://tenor.com/view/greedy-pot-yu-gi-oh-yugioh-gif-1156091889875709808

[iron scarab]

Ok this is epic

[zenith fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-stunned-really-speechless-why-gif-12076998607045093317

It looks like shreks shit under a fluorescent light

[manic heath]

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-sensei-sensei-wu-elemental-power-gif-15011710505967960889

[short goblet]

https://youtu.be/IVYA3tqdQaE?t=102&si=ZqV0AOZn5k_6StLm

[zenith fossil]

-# the silence is all I needed to hear

[exotic willow]

im breathtaken

[short goblet]

Narcissist

[tribal saffron]

bacon and butter

[zenith fossil]

Yet to see a roast

https://tenor.com/view/count-dooku-christopher-lee-star-wars-gif-23719747

[subtle cosmos]

This is deconvolved so much that Alex Woronow's images look soft after seeing this.

[meager surge]

pot of green

[frank chasm]

is this gravitational lensing i see?

[strange pivot]

you know you dont haaaaaave to always cook your images with noisex

this image is trying to be sharp and soft at the same time, lets just say after this im the latter

[zenith fossil]

decent points

[zenith fossil]

another galaxy more likely

not lensed

[strange pivot]

indeed

[meager bone]

Mid image I've seen better ones from the 40s

[astral eagle]

1840's or 1940's? Need specifics

[meager bone]

Usually when they say 40s they are talking about 1940s

[zenith fossil]

Go on, show me then?

[meager bone]

Not 1940s but close enough

[zenith fossil]

well thats embarrassing for you

[meager bone]

It's a joke chill

[zenith fossil]

same.... im just clapping back lol

its called roast my image and im just defending against the illegitimate roasts

[meager bone]

Should've said "yeah yeah wtv"

[zenith fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/tyson-barrie-if-you-cant-take-the-heat-get-out-of-the-kitchen-heat-colorado-avalanche-gif-26323892

[manic heath]

90 minutes with a dslr

[frank chasm]

W

fr

good data

[manic heath]

Thank you :)

Honestly figured there would be more shit talking

[frank chasm]

nahh lol

its only for ashen

lol

[keen blaze]

It looks very yellow

There could be more contrast

Idk if that’s the final process or just an autostretch tho

[manic heath]

It's the final but I have much to learn about editing and as of current kinda suck at it

[keen blaze]

Oh nice, what did you try doing when processing it? Maybe I can help

[manic heath]

I keep it minimal, mainly because I dont yet know how to use siril properly, its a background extract and stretch

I have been experimenting with color correction but I dont think I used much here

[orchid talon]

ive seen autostretches with better color balances

[zenith fossil]

Gang it’s roast ur image 💀

No niceties allowed

[zenith fossil]

Somehow you made 90 minutes look worse than most of the single subs I’ve seen of andromeda

[zenith fossil]

Got the Mexico filter on that one

[zenith fossil]

wtf ahahha no it’s not

[zenith fossil]

I’m banning @frank chasm from roast ur image

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-evil-evil-laugh-gif-10865501938883882879

[manic heath]

Part of the lack of data is because I use a dslr amd was shooting at 200 iso, incorrectly assuming that lower iso would mean lower noise

Still much to learn :)

[waxen phoenix]

its really good, ur on a great track keep it up

i would denoise and stretch more, also shift the temp colder

[frank chasm]

NOOOOOO 💔

[keen blaze]

I’d do a plate solve and spcc before stretching, you can look up tutorials on how to do that

Then you could denoise and stretch etc. Either ghs or the veralux stretch thing

[manic heath]

Is that all in siril?

[frank chasm]

this u? (roasting)

[keen blaze]

Yeah plate solving is in tools -> astrometry if I remember correctly

Spcc in color calibration

If you can’t get rid of the yellow try rgb equalization when stacking

[manic heath]

I stack in dss because I can't figure out how to use siril without bias frames (I think i just gotta start using bias frames)

[subtle cosmos]

You can stack without calibration frames using a different script

[keen blaze]

I mean you could just stack manually in siril, it's better than dss

And take bias frames, they take 10 seconds to do :)

[meager bone]

Uhh no you need to use unity ISO

[manic heath]

Yes which for my camera, the nikon d5300 is in the 1600 to 6400 range according to this graph if im reading it right

Although people on Cloudy Nights say not to put it above 2-400 iso

Then I've got my dither set to go every frame, is that excessive?

[manic heath]

Others on reddit say min 1600 to reduce banding, I just need to test it out myself

[keen blaze]

Yeah that’s a waste, especially if your sub exposure time is low

[manic heath]

Nah I can hit easy 3 to 5 minutes with my mount

[keen blaze]

Oh nice

Well dithering every frame is still excessive

[manic heath]

I splurged on my mount compared to the rest of my system and my ota +gear is well below max weight :)

[manic heath]

How much would you recommend?

[obtuse trellis]

Not necessarily, if you do 600 or more and you end up with 20 subs in total, dithering every frame is beneficial

[manic heath]

Depends on taget ig, dont want to blow out my histo

My settling time post dither is also reasonably long which is probably unnecessary with a strainwave

[obtuse trellis]

What sensor do you have?

[obtuse trellis]

Idk, imo ½ to minimum of ¼ of the total subs need to be dithered. So if I shoot 60 subs, I dither every 2nd or 4th sub. Depends on how lazy I am

[manic heath]

I shoot with the nikon d5300

Sony IMX193AQK

[viral helm]

Scope?

Or lens

[gloomy sierra]

that's a camera

[meager bone]

If you have a sony sensor then naturally you wont have to worry to much about banding but if its a nikon sensor then yeah

[meager bone]

Yeah should have minimal banding issues but the sensor is pretty old so idk

[manic heath]

Sony makes the sensor but its a nikon platform

I get concentric rings on some images but minimal banding

Especially on aggressive stretches

[meager bone]

Yeah

[solar knot]

There is no roast available at the moment. Please try again with a different image.

[marble wagon]

Roast this with no mercy (wrong answers only btw no truth)

[keen blaze]

There's so much walking noise bro

[zenith fossil]

Did you even try to colour balance this

Greener than shreks ass

[frank chasm]

WHY ARE THERE NO STARSS??

i knew it bro

moon landing was fake

the moon is fake

lowk jst painted on the glass dome

[solar knot]

No mineral moon, yet weird colors, looks like it was taken through a window.

[full spindle]

Flat moon theory confirmed

[keen blaze]

We can’t even see the apollo landing site in his picture, it has to be faked

[frank chasm]

ikrr

[marble wagon]

Roast it with vegan oil and salt

[iron scarab]

Bro thought he could shoot a mineral moon by passing off chromatic aberration

[keen blaze]

Pictures of the moon were better in 1900 bro

You got 3 degrees per pixel resolution

I’ve never seen cheddar lakes on the moon before

[gilded wasp]

this feels like a fever dream id have after too many oreos and passing out on my floor while thinking about space remotely

[marble wagon]

Dude what 😭✌️

You're not roasting you're just throwing gasoline and hoping some dumahh dropped a cigarrete on it

[gilded wasp]

thats life lowk

[marble wagon]

idk how to spell cigarrette or cigarrete or cigarette

i just know the 2nd one is wrong

[gilded wasp]

roast me bacj

[marble wagon]

Lmao so blurry

and redder than idk

[gilded wasp]

it was a very heavy crop

lots of deconvolution

taken with a refractor too

somehwo

[marble wagon]

Honestly newton/dobson telescopes are the all in one

and i love the cross that they leave on stars that again i forgot how it's called

[gilded wasp]

diffraction spikes

[marble wagon]

that

[gilded wasp]

i added a mask on my refractor to create some

dont use it anymore tho

[marble wagon]

Cassegrain or refractor telescopes aren't that good for deep sky

especially cassegrain telescopes

[tribal saffron]

refractor telescopes aren't that good for deep sky

bro what

https://klipy.com/gifs/jcsoos-2

[marble wagon]

it's just my opinion

[tribal saffron]

a very bad take

[marble wagon]

whatever

[gloomy sierra]

https://klipy.com/gifs/teto-kasane-teto-18

refractor telescopes are awesome

[iron scarab]

My RC begs to differ

(this is an invitation to roast btw)

[marble wagon]

Greener than shrek's ahh

(credits to idk some guy earlier for making the phrase)

yeah credits to @zenith fossil

[gloomy sierra]

whyd you throw up on your telescope

[short goblet]

I got nothing. must be christmas time in M42, with all that green and red

[manic heath]

I had my glasses off when I first saw this and putting them back on did not help

[frank chasm]

astronomyOUTOFfocus

lmaoo

i could take a crispier shot of 4546b

[frank chasm]

cmon bruh

hubble is literally a cassegrain

lmao

same with JWST

basically even tho hubble is like f/24

its still has a 2.4m mirror which absolutely matters

[iron scarab]

RCs are aplanatic Cassegrains

[frank chasm]

yep

no correctors needed tbh but expensive tho

[iron scarab]

good for galaxies if you ask me (now roast)

[iron scarab]

Honestly not too different from an SCT, which absolutely needs a good reducer/corrector to be usable for astrophotography on top of the sticker price\

(If you're buying new though, used SCTs are way easier to come by)

[frank chasm]

even after all of that?

[frank chasm]

what are those green things?

strangelets?

[iron scarab]

Most SCTs suffer from coma (the only exceptions being Meade's ACF, which arguably isn't a usual SCT, and some specialized designs in observatories) so a corrector is very useful, and reducer/corrector combos usually bring you down to f/7 and below

[iron scarab]

H-II regions in NGC 2403 (HaIRG palette)

[frank chasm]

ohh

[frank chasm]

what is that corrector plate in front for then?

[iron scarab]

Correcting spherical aberration (since all mirrors in the design are spheres)

[frank chasm]

i lowk thought they correct coma too 💔

but like cassegrains are made slow tho so coma shouldnt be a problem

like f/10 or some

[iron scarab]

It's possible, but you need a specific separation between the corrector and primary/secondary to eliminate coma

The downside being that the tube has to be very long, like a Schmidt camera

[iron scarab]

In my experience it's still visible (coming at this from a visual observer's perspective)

In an SCT I can see coma at the edges, in an RC there's essentially none

[frank chasm]

welp

RC>>

[iron scarab]

there are of course the EdgeHD SCTs which don't have coma

I'm an RC glazer though so I'm biased

Meade ACFs also have no coma, they're more similar to an RC in some ways

[frank chasm]

lol

i am a telescope glazer

telescopes are lowk good

ngl

i hate refractors tho

[iron scarab]

With an RC you get

• no chromatic aberration
• easy access to infrared imaging
• negligible coma
• negligible distortion
• easy mosaic stitching
• a surprisingly fast Cassegrain
• better visual performance than you might expect (especially at low power)
• no vignetting with 2" eyepieces
• an infallible aura

[frank chasm]

why did u attached a laser to it?

its not even the right color

[iron scarab]

"Speed is for those who lack the patience to handle a glorious Ritchey–Chrétien"
–me

[frank chasm]

is it for AO?

[iron scarab]

It's for aura farming

[frank chasm]

lmaooo

[frank chasm]

i see the fit

use a 589nm laser tbh

looks drippier

[iron scarab]

I use a 520 nm laser so I don't have to deal with unfiltered IR

I should try to find a 589 nm laser though

[frank chasm]

ikr

[iron scarab]

on top of that, I use the laser holder for cable management, so it's always attached to my scope

[frank chasm]

if its powerful enought u can create an artificial star for AO

[frank chasm]

ohhh

thats clean

lol

[iron scarab]

Alternate shot

Not amazing cable management but the laser holder helps out a lot

[frank chasm]

ikr

[frank chasm]

W pic

what bortle class is this?

in that area

the number of stars are acc good

never seen so many in my life lmao

[manic heath]

Bro what

[frank chasm]

no hard feeling

but its cuz of price

[manic heath]

Im just curious why

[manic heath]

Ahhh

[frank chasm]

💔

the images lowk crisp tho

and its easy to setup too

no collimation pain

but the aperture per $ goes insane lol

[iron scarab]

Low B5/high B4

Not particularly good dark skies, just a 30 minute drive from where I live (B6/7)

[meager bone]

They are good for nebulas and very close galaxies but thats about it

[meager bone]

Nuh uh SCT's deserves that title because it's at native f10 which is great for planets add a reducer and now it's f6 which is great for galaxies and then add a hyperstar and now it's at f2 great for nebulas

[manic heath]

Man I've got an 8 inch sct that id love to throw a OAG on but I was advised not to because I shoot withba dslr and back focus would be an issue

[iron scarab]

There's no other good guiding solution. You can't use a guide scope with one

OAG or bust

(and pretty much every SCT user has one)

you should have plenty of backfocus

[marble wagon]

Fair point

[keen blaze]

Did you mean good for noise

Also the stars look ugly

[strange pivot]

The dew on my secondary is more resolved than ts

[fleet plume]

arse

[keen blaze]

That’s crazy

[frank chasm]

come outside

[gilded wasp]

Goddamn

[marble wagon]

that one's technically a newton actually

although it does have a 3rd mirror that its only job is to do some corrections

ur right about hubble tho

[frank chasm]

well not a standard cassegrain

[marble wagon]

it's just

let's call it the webb-cassegrain cause why not

[frank chasm]

its not a newt tho

[frank chasm]

yepp

fr lol

[manic heath]

Thoughts on RCs?

[frank chasm]

peak

[manic heath]

They seem pretty popular for deep sky

[frank chasm]

cuz they need no correctors

[manic heath]

All my homies love RCs

Though I gotta say my first scope was an SCT so im a little biased towards them

[frank chasm]

ikr

hubble is a RC too?

jst found out lol

[manic heath]

I belive so yes

Hubble the goat fr

[frank chasm]

ikr

[manic heath]

Though oddly enough it did need a corrector plate when it first launched lol

[frank chasm]

yea that was cuz someone decided to launch it after only one test and didnt do other tests to make sure the mirror was correctly figured

[manic heath]

WOOOOOO

The thing needed a pair of glasses

[frank chasm]

yeaaa lmaooo

[manic heath]

I guess just singular actually

Bro needed a glass

Monocle

[frank chasm]

yea

cuz only one mirror

[manic heath]

Yus

[frank chasm]

but prolly an arrangement or glasses

so like 2 or more

[manic heath]

Based on some light googling it used 2 corrector mirrors

[iron scarab]

DID SOMEONE JUST MENTION THE GLORIOUS RITCHEY–CHRÉTIEN

[manic heath]

Yeees

[iron scarab]

I had an SCT back in the day and it was good but tbh I think my RC's a better all-rounder

[manic heath]

Makes sense, its hard to make like a good good sct, but if you get one they are so cool

[frank chasm]

2 hyperbolic mirrors

they are kinda self correcting

no coma

no optical abbreations

[obtuse trellis]

Yes. A flat one and one with the inverse error of the primary mirror