ZWO Seestar S50 Chat n Share

[sleek knoll]

i mean its not terrible

i think i like it more than my first attempt

but wtf happened to that quarter

[solar briar]

i might just start stacking my own frames instead of live stacking

anything past 40 minutes looks fried

[solar briar]

ts is NOT tuff

bortle 8 kills all

oh its mag 10 i thought it was lower

[solar briar]

two other variations just for testing

[solar briar]

todays sun

[sleek knoll]

kinda curious, would it be possible to use external S2 Ha and O3 filters to get an actual SHO image?

[solar briar]

the tadpoles

[solar briar]

casper the friendly ghost, pretty happy with the details

[jolly aurora]

Lookin pretty gud for an unprocessed image

[sleek knoll]

oof

hopefully i wake up to sum better

[solar briar]

comet k1 atlas

[pseudo harness]

as sword said, more integration

but also a better bg extraction

mgc/msgr would help a lot

[sleek knoll]

I tried but graxpert wasn't graxperting

[sleek knoll]

What's that?

[sleek knoll]

very poorly frames orion 😂

[sleek knoll]

Anyone have a good 3d file for a bahtinov mask?

[solar briar]

3i atlas and 240p neat

[river vault]

Quick process of my 40 hours of Caldwell 12 data with SAS pro still getting used to all the new updates

[solar briar]

bodes starless

[solar briar]

iris nebula (not enough data) reprocess

old one overstretched and noisy

[sleek knoll]

~60 hours, dont have much time today so veralux stretch is gonna have to do for now

[tardy warren]

A few images from last night, not too proud of the Triangulum Galaxy however still good

[buoyant quest]

Do I need to be a certain level to upload photos in here or something?

im trying to get some feedback on my image process 😂

[tardy warren]

You have to have the protostar premium role

[buoyant quest]

Do you have to talk to get that or do you obtain it through the roles channel

[tardy warren]

I don’t really know, I asked why I cant send photos and an admin gave me the role

[buoyant quest]

Gotcha, I used to be able to but I guess they changed it

I’ve just processed one of my captures on Seestar using GraXpert and Siril for the first time using some tutorials so I just wanted to get some feedback on it

[sleek knoll]

you can just drop a message in general and ask for the role

[final plume]

Question, can the s50 do mosaic and stack together? Aka if I wanted to get a wider FOV I could do multiple mosaics and put them together?

Please @ me

Also, is it worth buying the s50 or should I wait until the s70 comes out? My budget isn't exactly huge but, if the s50 is dated / won't get updates after s70????

[peak creek]

You have a mosaic mode that s50 does everything for you, if you save each frame you can also stack it by yourself

And make bigger mosaic than in s50 (in s50 you can take a mosaic of up to 4 panels)

[peak creek]

I would be surprised if anyone knew (and could share) any details on s70

But after releasing s30 then there were a lot new features added to s50 app (it’s the same app for s30 and s50, and it’s a variation of ASIAIR app)

I just sold my s50 a few days ago but I was super happy with mine and I don’t regret buying it

[final plume]

Never thought about a used s50.....

[final plume]

Is eq mode worth investing into?

[peak creek]

I never used s50 in the eq mode, because I wanted sth that I can grab with me and start taking photos without any polar alignment. For eq mode I have other, more stationary, rigs. Though, I heard eq mode is quite an improvement for s50

[final plume]

Hmm, I don't have those other setups nor will I probably ever have them, chatGPT was saying to me that eq mode isn't worth chasing but... I'd love to hear thoughts on it from someone that has maybe done it already

[sleek knoll]

eq is honestly great for me. Did my first session in alt az and got mad at the field rotation. Bought the th10 the next day.

For the mosaic, it seems like doing individual panels and then combining those is better than using the build-in mosaic mode. The default loses a lot of time and its algorithm isnt the best, so some parts get more coverage than others

this is the result i got from ~14 hours of multiple panels and mosaics i threw together. In the end i probably couldve saved quite a bit of time if i just planned a couple individual panels from the start

[final plume]

What eq mount ? I really don't want to spend a ton of $ on a eq mount....

[final plume]

Wow!!!

[sleek knoll]

i use the TH10, but ive also heard good things about the Star Adventurer Latitude

theyre both ~$90

if you aren't sure, you can always get the eq mount later

[final plume]

Oh!

[peak creek]

You don’t even need any eq mount, it’s just enough to get an eq wedge or anything that could keep your s50 leaning in a particular angle

[final plume]

Is it worth buying the leveler as well as a th10? The leveler being the Core Tripod Leveler for seestar s50 ?

[sleek knoll]

I don't use one, nor do I know anyone that does

I would say get it only after the trying the eq mount and if there are any problems

[solar briar]

i updated seestar after a while and im pretty sure 2x drizzle (4k mode) is now on the stacked fits. cause i checked the fit size and the dimensions are doubled. not sure about individual sub shooting

[solar briar]

Tried drizzling tonight through the app and it sucked (30% success rate)

5 seconds vs 10 second exposures both non drizzled

[buoyant quest]

What’s the best way to get a good capture of Jupiter with the S50

Like how long of raw video would yall think is good

[sleek knoll]

I would say no more than a minute or two. I dont think the s50 has enough resolution to get much more detail after that

this is the best i could get after ~90 seconds

[buoyant quest]

Yeah I got some 20-30 second videos last night and they were alright

I saw someone on the Seestar community page have a crazy shot, most likely done by further post processing

I also am not sure if my exposure settings are good as well, I think last night I tried both low exposure high gain and then both low gain low exposure

This is what I could do last night, I probably could’ve changed some settings/focus but idk, I’m not a planetary photographer 😂

[sleek knoll]

that actually looks pretty good

what combination of exposure and gain is this?

[buoyant quest]

I forgot but I think I was at 1-2 exposure and possibly 100 or less than 100 gain?

The 80-90% illum waxing gibbous probably didn’t help that much with the photo as well lol

[buoyant quest]

I wanna capture Andromeda, it’s a clear night, but the moon is at 100%

[deep island]

A narroband target would be better, but you can still use the narroband filters on galaxies if you want

[buoyant quest]

like just turn on the LP filter?

[deep island]

Yea, thays the narroband filter i think

[buoyant quest]

I tried reprocessing this for fun and it would’ve worked out great if GraXpert exported correctly but the real png file is super blown out and white for some reason so I just screenshotted what I had in Siril 🤣

So the quality is trash but idc too much to fix it

Plus I think I just had bad data from the start

[sleek knoll]

messy edit, but not too bad for my first try an SHO

[buoyant quest]

im trying to get a capture like this

today I finally have no clouds

[buoyant quest]

How much storage on some sorta drive you need for a 3700x10 sec sub stack on like Siril

[buoyant quest]

Would this be the expected image after 9-10 hr integration in a B7-8? I feel like I should get more of the galaxy but idk

[buoyant quest]

I basically stacked two batches using DSS on Seestar and then stacked the batches on Siril

[sleek knoll]

try stacking everything in siril. stacking batches loses a bit of data anyway, and dss does some "magic" so its not optimal

[buoyant quest]

I’m afraid I don’t have enough storage for it. I tried it a few days ago and it like stopped working at the last moment because I ran out of storage lol

I can try using an external drive for it

I think I need 200gb and I have 125 iirc

[sleek knoll]

how many frames?

[buoyant quest]

The total sub count is 3703x10 I think, but I know some of the images are bad so I think it was like 3690 something

[sleek knoll]

That doesn't sound right. That many images shouldn't use up for than 10gb. Try using the Naztronomy Smart Scope script in siril, it does all the complex stuff for you and minimizes storage

[buoyant quest]

That’s what I did and it took up like all of my storage 🤣

[sleek knoll]

did you use drizzle or feathering?

[buoyant quest]

I think 1x drizzle

[sleek knoll]

i mean 1x drizzle takes up a bit more space but it shouldnt take up that much more, if you want I could stack the frames for you

[buoyant quest]

I’m not sure how much it is needed, nor do I know what it exactly does, I just know people do it 🤣

[buoyant quest]

Yeah I’d have to figure out how to send the frames but it shouldn’t be too bad

[sleek knoll]

you can upload the zip to something like filebin or google drive

[buoyant quest]

gotcha hol up

[knotty galleon]

my first edit

[shrewd storm]

thousands of frames will absolutely use hundreds of GB of space during stacking

[sleek knoll]

max batch is 2k frames and only 1x drizzle. When i stacked it for him, it used less than 50gb

[shrewd storm]

what software? dss, siril, and pix all use large amounts of storage unless there is some new algorithm that deletes intermediate files

[rocky blaze]

M82 & M82 with help from some people in possessing

[sleek knoll]

Naztronomy Smart Scope script in siril

[rocky blaze]

does anyone fancy putting all putting all our m81/m82 data together to see how good of a result we can get?

[buoyant quest]

I have 1 hr of M81 data from when I went to Kitt Peak observatory that might be good

now thinking about it idk if I have the individual subs, I think I do

ok I don't have it on my PC, idk about my seestar either

[rocky blaze]

That’s a shame that you can’t find it

[sleek knoll]

how much do you have? I have a bit over 800 20s frames

[rocky blaze]

I have about 3000 10 second ones

[rocky blaze]

Sounds like a good amount to me

[rocky blaze]

[rocky blaze]

Does anyone else have any?

[buoyant quest]

I must’ve not saved the subs when I was taking the exposure, or just deleted the subs entirely to save storage without knowing I didn’t save them 😭

[teal surge]

Hey guys, just wondering what the most recommended tripod is for a seestar?

[river vault]

Star adventurer tripod from skywatcher is popular