#How it started… How it's going…
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Pons Brooks only a 2 week difference
1 year Moon photography evolution
The full Moon was shot with a phone
The half Moon is a 4 tiles mosaic made with a DSLR
Orion Nebula to whirlpool galaxy both same camera bortle 9 in a few months. Not much progress but yeah (:
A year apart
Yoo! What are the specs of the new pic?
Oh, nvm, I found your post in deep space pics!
Old: Quattro 150p, HEQ 5 pro unguided, Nikon D3500 full spectrum, UV/IR cut, 72x60s exposures
New: Quattro 150p, HEQ 5 pro guided, ASI 294MC pro, UV/IR cut, 59x180s exposures (WIP)
Old: Canon 55-250mm, Canon SL2, Star adventurer 2i, 45 minutes exposure
New: Quattro 150p, CEM26, Canon SL2 modded, 2 panel mosaic, 2 hours exposure
First rig, new rig 😎
little difference
which one is which? 🧐
Really great improvement actually!
Around a 1-2 year difference, different scope, processing, and mount
you know which one is which don’t be rude
It was probably a joke
hopefully
the middle one is the new one❤️
I'm assuming that because the difference is immense
the difference is very good yes
Bro, don‘t you see the sarcasm in Poivre‘s post? 😭
what
read the post from @wraith heron above
sarcasm isn’t easily visible to others keep your hair on ffs
What does ff stand for?
My bad I'm the first to struggle with sarcasm but I'm using it anyway 😭
no no it’s fine i was just saying to that guy it’s not easily visible to others
i got the hint that you was being sarcastic
not him
and why do you have to cause a drama out of it?
i’m not causing a drama lol
you was getting all fussy about it that i didn’t understand that the guy was being sarcastic but it literally doesn’t matter anyway
yeah, life goes on
exactly
1st image is from August of last year with an unmodified T7 and kit lens, 2nd image is from December of last year with Unmodified T7 and the Rokinon 135mm, and the 3rd image is the most recent from 2 nights ago with a modified T7 and Rokinon 135mm. All were taken with the SWSA 2i and the L-enhance NB filter
2022 to 2024 (left two are 2022, right two are 2024)
two years apart, same equipment
The details you get from your redcat are amazing
GodDAMN
What camera are you using?
ASI 294MM pro
What pixel scale?
I really thought this was a comparison between your image and Hubble data, great job
1.91”/px but new image is 2x drizzled (=0.96”/px or so)
oh wow, I definitely have to try this (I could do 0.39"/px with 2x drizzle)
You also need good to excellent seeing
True, it doesn't get very high here 😢
So ... not gonna happen on my avg seeing night with an ASI585
Just a short test, tomorrows comparison should be 10x better
Woah, the glow up is amazing
trash
That is very nice
I would prefer less denoise, but good coloring
Agreed completely!
Fr bro
Bro dont get yourself banned again 💀
Yez it is How it started, How it's going
my first milky way photo from july last year, compared to now
sword of the six sages i know andromeda only rises to like 4 degrees for you but wth is that
Is it good or bad?
It's been deepsnr nuked 
13th november 2023 vs 23rd may 2024
My 1st Orion Nebula picture from December last year compared to now
One day I saw a bright star outside. I looked at it, wondering what it was. That was the day I wanted to buy a telescope. Many months and many telescopes later, I finally found out what that "star" was. If it wasn't for that one bright dot, I wouldn't even be in this server.
18/10/2023 - 25/05/2024 (not the images, just when I started to now)
awesome little story, you've perfectly captured what many of the first human astronomers went through. Seeing something intriguing, wanting to know more. Devising a way to know more, and then figuring out and learning more. This is beautiful, actually.
Less than a year with the quattro, such improvements already
Old: Quattro 150p no CC, HEQ 5 pro unguided, Nikon D3500 full spectrum, no filter, 1h 25m
New: Quattro 150p w CC, HEQ 5 pro guided, ASI 294MC pro, Optolong Lenhance triband +UV/IR cut. 3h 18m
1 year apart. phone vs DSLR
decided to make a timeline of my long term progress and recent peogress in deep sky imaging
Amazing documentation!
Left is from 9 months ago, right was last night
nice! Much sharper details and less noise
Just last night I tried getting an image of the Dumbbell Nebula for shits and giggles, pressing the camera of my phone to the eyepiece of my Starblast
DSLR is very rewarding, I've never done Astro with it but it feels so good to get good stuff with em
it's safe to say your captures are certainly better than what my phone got in 10 seconds lmao
For a phone its not even bad
Yay
Does your redcat have me beat?
Redcat
Fwiw it’s more than 10x the integration time and some pretty heavy lifting with drizzle and blurX
true
Nah, I'd win.
Aint no way you imaged that
LOBOTOMY KAISEN🗣️🔥
Better than hubble tbh
Did you have
To ping me
Y
E
S
One night was at 8°C, the other was at 17°C, guess which ones which
What target is this?
Wide angle of crux and the area arounf
Top Left: 2015, Top Right: 2020, Bottom Left: 2021, Bottom Right: 2024 (June)
The first 2 were APS-C DSLR,
The third was Mirrorless Full Frame
The fourth is 533MC Pro CMOS
First picture of the moon vs my latest picture
One of my first lunar images vs my most recent. Crazy what differences can be made in a year + better equipment
Here is my first image of NGC 2146 and my latest one.
Great work! love the blues you pulled on the new one
Yeah I love the SignalX you ran on your new data
1 year
You... Got worse?
To an extent
Bro went from perfect processing to clipped whites and non-calibrated backgrounds
yea ive not really seen any omega nebla to the extent of it being purple
Real
making an image purple is a symptom of oversaturation or saturation not done properly
Or you're a gojo stan
This has gotta be my favorite photo of swan neb
zegerys was pretty good
Maybe if the stars were more colorful but Idk
Oh shoot I forgot about his
It's absolute ass and I'm about to blow it out of the water in a month
Thats 20 x 1'
If you can get decent star colors out of it, you'll have taken my favorite photo of Swan fsfs
Nice one! You’ve definitely got more signal on the new one, however it does need abit of work done, the purples are mostly fine, could be abit less but there is OIII in that region so purple isn’t a issue that much, the background could use Background Neutralisation to fix its blue/green tones, and while stretching the core could use a light mask to stop it highlighting, but on a general there is a lot of improvement in data, well done (rather than saying “ you got worse” or “it’s absolute ass” how about we stick to actual advice guys…)
You are absolutely right. When are you going to record that backflip btw?
Same integration, 1 year apart, 2400 vs A7III
2023 vs 2024
While the pinks in the old image look more captivating at first glance, in general it's too over processed. I would however like to carry over that pink tone to the latest image once it's finished... Of course in a more conservative manner.
Main change is the new scope, old image was with the Z61 w/ 0.8x reducer / new image was with - new image with the Esprit 80
288mm vs 400mm
Both at around f/5
Very nice! idk if this was a problem only i had, but i noticed when denoising (both DeepSNR or NoiseX) that some of the main core details on crescent itself kinda dulled and blurred?
Heres a example, to me it seems DeepSNR is giving me less clean results than NoiseX, i actually prefer the looks of the no denoised one over the DeepSNRd one, am i doing something wrong? (Left is DeepSNR, right is either NoiseX or no denoise)
Drop shrink 0.80
Function: Varshape 1.5
Grid size: 16
DeepSNR value?
If it is too rough, try iterative valuation.
1.00, how would I run iterative values with it?
Deepsnr works best when the data is already somewhat clean, and monochrome helps. It isn't magic and will still leave color modelling + any micro details that don't have good snr will likely look soft and jagged.
Somewhat clean is kind of vague/relative
It can do wonders on noisy data but if you stretch it too much it'll just look wonky.
I also like to add back in like 10-35% of original noise back in.
Waayyy too high, use .75 to .93
You risk giving the image a plastic-y look if you use 1.0
45, then 75.
if 75 is too high again, use 60.
Alternatively, 25% strength about 7-8 times works wonders
Thats interesting tbf, ive only heard it should be ran at 1.00 or not at all lol, ill give this a shot
Yeah u do that with pixel math right? whats the formula?
7th October 2023 vs 28th June 2024
July 2023 with stock avx/c8-n/sony a6000/lightroom (1st try) vs June 2024 with hypertuned avx/150pds/ares-c pro/pixinsight and lightroom (2nd Try)
Great improvement , I want to image this soon
Thank you! Same goes to you for your eagle nebula, I’m actually shooting that next lol
Lovely improvement
No worries! And Thankyou! Yeah defo go for it , beautiful nebula. I’m glad I could see it from my back garden practically all night from dark till light
Thank you!
That’s awesome how you could see it the whole night. I could only see it for a few hrs but I’m glad I could see it anyways! Good luck with shooting m27, it’s a great target to shoot. Has a nice dynamic range
11 months progression
Old: Quattro 150p: HEQ 5 pro unguided: Nikon D3500 full spectrum, UV/IR cut, 3h of 60s exposures
New: Quattro 150p: HEQ 5 pro guided: ASI 294MC pro: Optolong Lenhance+ZWO UV/IR cut, 15h 10m of 600s exposures+3h of 120s exposures
Its funny cause I think the new one has almost the same exposure
original process and new process
Wow, so many detail
You took the Nah id win to the whole next level
Very good improvement! I will say there is a green coloration on the left of the improved image, but I'm sure that can easily be dealt with
11 months progress
Old Gear: Quattro 150p: HEQ5 pro: Nikon D3500 fullspectrum: UV/IR cut: 90x60s (1h 30m)
New Gear: Quattro 150p: HEQ5 pro guided: ASI 294MC pro: Optolong Lenhance: 58x180s (2h 54m)
Yeah i’m gonna go back to it - noticed that too but was too lazy to deal with it today since pix was throwing me curveballs
One hell of an improvement
1 year apart, same equipment, 6"dob flextube and samsung a52, 10s exposure
2023 vs 2024
better comparison
this reminds me of early astronomical observations of Saturn! Early observations and depictions saw Saturn as a dot with two smaller dots, one at each side, and as observations got more and more refined, early astronomers began to realize that those dots were actually the rings going around the planet.
There's astronomical sketches of this, maybe I can find them
found it
That's sick
One of my earliest pics in astro to my latest one
Hey I know where this is
don't be shy, try getting Stephan's Quintet in the frame too, that could look neat
unless that's like a lot more difficult than I assume it already is
I did.
You all cant see it for a while though since the project is ongoing
Tis but a teaser of a much, much, much longer project
Oooh ok, awesome!!
How it started in start of 2023 and bottom right is last pic
I had tons help from @heavy crest who edited my last picture
That second one looks alot (Reminds me) like the one I took of the north america nebula
Can I see
I used a canon 1100D at the time
Now I upgraded to a ZWO 2600MM
This is with the kit lens at max zoom (55mm?). Yours is def more detailed than mine though lol. I also forgot to take calibration frames
my first ones didnt have any either
I used to find it so confusing
about 10 months in the making
my first image (i think) vs my latest
first vs last cygnus wall
9 months difference
1 is moon 2 is jupiter and Io
Jupiter is just rlly unfocused and bright
That’s so good
Fr
My first image of the eastern veil, a 2 pane mosaic captured with my svbony 80ED
My most recent image of the East Veil captured with my SVX102T
Both pictures are same camera and filters.
my first mw vs my latest, both images being taken with my phone
My first horsehead vs my recent-ish one
270 days ago I took my first ever photo of the Moon with a 10x35 binocular with a phone.
3 days ago I took a photo of the Moon with a Sony Nex-5n with a f/3.5-5.6 18-135 lens
1y evolution
Why is the glow from your stars oval shaped? That's really interesting, I have no idea what would cause that, but it honestly looks kinda cool
Really great improvement btw!
The spikes are also not the same length horizontally and vertically. So i am guessing it is something connected to that
my 1yr evolution! in-between I figured out how stellarium and calibration frames worked. XD
These 2 are almost exactly 1 year apart
Great improvement!
Almost 5 years 
but i still using my phone.
And yes, there is an m17 there. I just lost the stack 💀
2021 - 70/700mm fixed tripod
december 2022 - 114/900mm with onstep
Same phone: Xiaomi mi9t
I have to update this Orion photo this year. It will look much better with the new phone and eyepiece
I can't wait to try orion with a real setup
Dont have the old one
its and improvment. of sorts....
makes me wanna cry in a corner fr
Idk if you should, the image quality decreases, when you zoom in
it doesnt tho?
blurx:
mega nerd worth so i ain’t complaining
yea probably
it was also taken with a mobile phone
While that may be.... He produces better images than some people with rigs that cost 3x.
Not to mention anyone I've ever seen using a phone for ap.
By far

first ever imaging run and my most recent imaging run on that target
Silly visual astronomer
ew eyepieces
Still salty for wiping my sd card by accident.
First vs newest. Both single subs. I would've had like 30 of the new subs if I didn't delete them 
Why the ping?
To purposely piss you off
Why though? Can‘t he handle my opinion or what?
Idk lol
And why do you send your images
I‘m not even a visual astronomer
Idk, if it’s supposed to be a joke
never heard of an eyepeice, what is it?
Your
opinion
is
WRONG
The quality of an image is always relative
Yes, this Orion is bad compared to the quality I get today. It was less than two hours of exposure, there were thin clouds and the moon was at about 60% 💀 .
Today, with the new eyepiece that doesn't distort the image, it would have been much better.
look how the masterlight was.. My old eyepiece distorted everything and there was a haze in the whole photo.
Oof
I understand
Genuine question, how does dithering work? i mean like id imagine you wouldnt want to do it much because of the vignetting and youd get a smaller FOV, but surely you gotta dither right?
I just stop the sequence every 10 frames, move the frame a little using the onstep hand control and start again... When I took this photo I didn't even do any dithering, as I had no guiding with phd2. They were 15s subs...
Now i do 1-minute subs with guiding, so I need to do the dither manually.
The Deepskycamera app developer is finalizing the pro version; It will be possible to connect the cell phone to the Phd2 and automate this process
Damn thats some dedication. Its truly inspiring to see what youre pulling off with a phone, i mean. Its unbelieveable! people spend thousands trying to achieve images like yours yet still cant, and your doing it with a phone. truly amazing! i cant wait to see the day you get a full blown setup, youd actually be a award winning astrophotographer for definite! Love what youre doing bro, keep at it 
@silent perch do you use the same phone for daily activities?
selling my cam rn gonna buy a xiaomi
Thanks! I should continue using my phone for astrophotography for another few years or a year; I'm going to upgrade my equatorial mount first, as the tracking isn't good. It's blurring my photos even with my phone at eyepiece
yep!


Yeah its relative, relatively high in my case 
God-tier seeing
The real mystery is, where is drawing no. 3
Probably cropped out to the right
i dont understand how people's first astrophotos arent just photos through an eyepiece
i thought that most people started visual
yea but thats phone photography - we were stupid then
Just then?
We hadn’t spent copious amounts of time and money at that point so arguably we’ve got stupider
1.5 year processing progression
Wtf why don't I remember seeing the new one?
That's fantastic
That's with the 150p?
Is that the same data??
1st vs latest Saturn (celestron 76 az with iPhone vs Celestron nexstar 6se with svbony sv105
😂
Same data?
Holy moly, that 2nd one might be the nicest M101 ive seen
Still cant get his backgrounds right
I love messing with Ratbag
Haha it’s bat data, just purely for processing representation
Yeah Bat data
I was gonna say lmao
lovely improvement tho
If that was my data id be ecstatic
thank you!
2022 vs 2024
Just under 1 year of progression!
Old: scope: Quattro 150p: Mount: HEQ 5 unguided: Camera: Nikon D3500 full spectrum, UV/IR cut: 160x60s (2h 40m)
New: scope: Quattro 150p: Mount: HEQ 5 guided: Camera: ASI 294MC pro, UV/IR cut, Optolong Lenhance: 81x180s (4h 3m) 35x300s (2h 55m)
Wow great comparison, aligned and everything
Wonder what you did to make the star color pop way more
With the old DSLR stars would easily over saturate, didnt have a high full well at all. The 294 has a much higher full well so stars look much nicer
Wait, you imaged this? Daaaaamnn what gear?
seestar s50 in equatorial configuration
Nice
4 days difference
Beautiful
my rosette around a year ago, and my newest images.
Even your rosette doesn't look half bad, still really great progress though
i changed how i organized files pretty early on. does this count? i dunno
deeznuts and DEEZNUTS2
I noticed they are gone
"randomarea"
How I've started in the end of 2022, same data LRGB
wdym?
ah thanks. was pleased at the time
all made with a 80mm refractor telescope, and my phone
only difference is that for the planets I upgraded to using my finderscope as barlow lens, somehow worked
for the moon I used a small phone scope first, and then I used a simple 2x barlow lens
Ooh, that Orion before and after is quite good
You should try getting flame and horsehead, just a little ways above the Orion Nebula and to the left. Should find them easily, as they're in Orion's Belt near the Star Alnitak.
They don't require too much integration time to capture, and with an 80mm you should have enough FoV to get both nebulae in frame
I only mention them because they're pretty easy to find, a fun target, and with the right amount of post processing and integration time, they can look stunning.
ah yes, I actually tried it, multiple times, I actually needed 800 frames to make something visible...
aye
its a skywatcher
Ah ok
not exactly great but I could bring out something
2022 vs 2023 Nikon 300mm vs Sigma 600mm, Nikon D780
whoops i spread misinformation, these are different scopes
like 1 month apart, shows the difference processing skills and integration make. 5mins vs 2hrs 20 mins. same gear and location
Same data, different processing. 1 year apart.
carina pfp's on top
hi
the 3 muskatiers
rip to every other carina i guess
does lmc count?
My rig and images from 2 years ago on the bottom VS my rig that I got in November
I've only been doing planetary with the new rig for 3 days so I hope to improve more soon
Orion Nebula 1year apart with the same set up
Nice bro
One year apart
Only the same camera. Left was with a celestron 5slt (5” cassegrain) on the slt mount (alt az
). Right is with wo z73 and eqm35, guided 
1 year difference
Oh my god this is stunning, what an awesome photo of the Perseids!!
Thanks a lot
Such a big progress, the new image should be the ap picture of the day, heck even picture of the year
From 5" to 10", terrible collimation to good, 224mc to 585, untracked to 500ms subs and same exposure lenght!
Stunning 😍
5" Newt. Left is DSLR, right is ZWO ASI224MC.
Elephant trunk with a dslr and a svbony 70ed on a swsa 2i pro vs now asi533mm pro with a Quattro 150p (before I did flocking and shower cap)
same sky, different gear and a 1.5y difference
Bodes on the first picture looks like pure noise

1 year improvement with exact same equipment and skies

I didn't even realised it was you
Lol
Bruh
Dumbbell was my first deep space target, and now it got me my nerd rank! here's my 8 months progress
Moon was the thing that sparked my interest in astrophotography. The first picture (left most) was my first image taken of the moon in March 2023. The images on the right were taken in April 2024 and are the most recent ones. Its crazy how much progress one can make if he puts his mind to it.
Taken from the same gear:
Canon EOS 500D DSLR (Unmodified)
Tamron 18-400mm lens
Standard photographic Tripod (Alt-Az)
great improvement
ive been speedruning getting better
for mars to get to oposition
lol
i need to improve fast to get a good img
lol
First ever image (early 2021) vs my lastest image
Two year improvement, 2022 to 2024. This comes with a wise choice in gear and strenuous research lol
The most recent image is only 30 minutes worth of data too (same integration time as my first image)
That some crazy difference
11 months progression
Old: Scope: Quattro 150p, Mount: HEQ 5 pro guided, Camera: Nikon D3500 full spectrum, UV/IR cut, 1h 30m of 420s subs
New: Scope: Quattro 150p, Mount: HEQ 5 pro guided, Camera: ASI 294MC pro, Optolong Lenhance, 1h 30m of 180s subs
Great improvement! 
Both shot with the same gear, one month difference
Which gear did you use?
Stock Canon EOS 2000D, og star tracker, basic tripod, and kit lens 18-55 f/5.6
What were your integration times?
The most one recent was 2,5 hours, the second was about 30 minutes
Understood. Thanks
The M101 picture was created from the first data I ever collected and my first processing, which I was satisfied with. NGC 6946 data was collected 2 nights ago.
This shows my processing improvement over the course of 3 months
Same dataset, different processing. 4 months difference
1 year difference
Almost 2 year difference same scope but iPhone 15 instead of iPhone 6 for cam
What exposure time?
25 1 sec exposures
6 inch dob
hmm
there was really slight star trail but blurx fixed it
got a tracking mount, like a go-to?]
no
thx
2023 vs 2024
2023 vs 2024
rags to riches fr
Gotta keep the chain alive!
how are you making his pallete man?? i wanna make these colours
you change the hue to some colours
No i meant if it’s HOO? what curves adjustments made?
Changing hue doesnt always work, using histograms, curves and pixelmath effectively will produce cleaner results than hue change
I agree
when’s the tutorial coming out bro
I gotta find the time for it 😭
Asap
Will likely record it soon though, on some random clear night so im up late enough to record and edit it
Monday clear for me, maybe for u?
Monday hit or miss, tuesday/wednesday looks really good
Data from 31st of May 2023 reprocessed today
Image on left: Today
Image on Right: Processed around 2-3rd of June 2023
Used starless photos because I stupidly (accidentally) deleted the star mask for my most recent image, and I happened to have a starless image for the old processing lying around.
figured out how to denoise 👍
Cant lie i much prefer the right image, the denoising method you have used has killed detail, and the colours on the right look better imo
The difference between WBPP and DSS, processing identical, same dataset
the dss looks better in terms of noise?
lol was pretty clear to me
I NEEED WBPP
You’re not wrong about the denoising, but i’d say that I did alright despite the fact I haven’t done any processing in nearly a year
I also didnt like how i washed out the OIII Colour
Definitely did not try as hard as I usually do

1 year apart, 2h more data, lower gain.
Like a year apart
my progress over two years of AP. Didn't intend for it but it seems I took a pic of M 27 around the same time each year
Left - 09.2022 (first image with a mount)
Middle - 08-09.2023
Right - 08-09.2024
yo nerd this man? @fading flume
what does that even mean lmao
It's the role system in the server, beginners get the protostar role, and "nerds" get the red dwarf role. Particularly skilled individuals get the red giant (mega nerd) role, and only the most incredible members here get the pulsar role (extremely biscuity). If you're extremely good at image processing too, you get the Wolf Rayet Star (master processor) role.
they're basically saying that your imaging and skill progression is good enough that you should be awarded the title of nerd, they're saying you're Pretty Good™️.
you do already have the red dwarf (nerd) role it would seem, which doesn't surprise me.
gotcha, thanks for explaining all that
ty 
Roughly 2 years difference
Just under a year difference by a week (:
Old: Quattro 150p: HEQ 5 unguidedi: Nikon D3500 full spectrum: unfiltered: 180x60s (3h)
New: Quattro 150p modded: HEQ 5 guided: ASI 294MC pro: UV/IR cut: Optolong Lenhance: 129x300s (10h 45m) 86x180s (4h 18m)
Which is which
The triangle stars must be the new one
yes
which image was the new one:(
left ofc
its obvious.... isnt it?

i unfried it
left looks a lot like when i used deep sky stacker to process images lol
just with a gray background
i edited it with my phone
this maade me so sad
i had to have this stupid problem
its visible in the image you posted before actually
field rotation+eyepiece distortion im guessing
this is a min of data, im gonna get 30 mins with tracking next time
field rotation in 1 min is imposible
oh it was only a minute? thought it was 30 mins
im gonna get an eq6r pro and a year later a asi533mc pro and an 8'f4 newt
bbut in one month ill have my dob on an eq6r pro and a phone which is a pretty cursed setup
pretty good progress icl
From my first picture to getting featured in the astronomy photographer of the year for 2023 roughly 2-3 years later
now that’s cool
That is absolutely fantastic!
Also from my first nebula image (in July 2022) to getting second in Astronomy Photographer of the year in the young category for 2024 (image taken in January 2024)
Congrats, younger than me and got that
phone ap runner up in astronomy photographer of the year
Tha's brilliant mate. Have you got the link for the site?
Thank you (: https://www.rmg.co.uk/whats-on/astronomy-photographer-year/galleries/young-competition-2024
🔥
Crab nebula from a year ago to a couple of days ago
Old: Dec 2022 - New: Sep/Oct 2024
Old: Celestron C8: HEQ 5 pro unguided: Nikon D3500 full spectrum: no filter: 44 minutes~ of exposure time
New: Quattro 150p: HEQ 5 pro guided, ASI 294MC pro, Optolong Lenhance, UV/IR cut: 22 hour 30 minutes of exposure time
For the old image, what was your subexposure time, and what bortle zone were you in?
THATS SO GOOD whats your setuup?
90s subs, Bortle 5 skies
Amazing. What equipment?
130pds and nikon d3200 on a eqm-35 🙂
Did u use autoguiding?
yep although my guiding is pretty bad but 3min exposures also cooled my dslr
Understood. Thanks
Saturn 4 months difference
My first vs. my last shot of the Orion Nebula.
First shot: Just a phone and a tripod
Second shot: 8" Dob and a phone
Now that I've got a new EQ platform I'll test it out as soon as I get time.
It should make my shots even better!
Span of 2 weeks. Image on right is 6 hours, and image on left is 31hrs. Get more data everyone! Don't stop. It makes everything better
pix makes a difference too lol
Well yeah but shhhh
that was with a celestron nexstar 6se and a zwo asi224 mc
nice man
First image of andromeda vs most recent. 1 year ish in between.
this looks so good, I keep forgetting, but is this a mosiac with the rc6? or the 150mm newt?
This is the 150mm newt
Dude how did you get resolution like that, I have a 200mm and your seems better lol
Well how good is your guiding and collimation lol? I had really good collimation for this image
Also how is your seeing? I live in a desert (no dark skies) so my seeing is pretty good
its probably that
seeing not so good up here in the NE
Ah yeah. My seeing is pretty good now that I think about. I just need dark skies to go along it
Same data (4h with unmod 10+ years camera)
Year of experience and better equipment ofcourse 🙂
Phone AP a year of progress.
what phone?
Motorola Edge 20 Lite
The difference a year can make
About 4 months progress
First time imaging a comet(neowise) vs 2 days ago (Atlas)
Woah.
DAMN!!
Woah.
Amazing!
The bubble nebula, I am a really big fan of this nebula.
Gotta straighten those spider vanes
Pop it
One year later...
Exactly 1 year difference.
how do you process around this star? it’s very difficult to denoise with in my data
DeepSNR and the luminance channel helped a lot
in terms of general processing, pixinsight masks and photoshop's content aware fill helped with a lot of the starx artifacts and taming the intensity a little
another view...
brother learned to dither
the dithering started right afterwards (i only then learned about it)
that's a huge improvement
Can dithering be accomplished by rotating the camera in the eyepiece?
I've actually been wondering this too
Wouldn’t that just add field rotation ?
Sadly not, you must move the target in the FOV slightly without using rotation otherwise like Moxxi said, you’ll give yourself field rotation
If only I had the nerd role 😒
you do?
Haha i think he wouldve listened regardless of role, i only put my message there as 2 opinions is better than one!
@queen surge that's right. I'm less concerned about role than about information.
And what you said about moving target in FOV. So basically if the target is tracking at center of image: move the camera so now it's tracking slightly right or left. Yes?
And would that mean that the elimination of walking noise on an untracked image is near impossible?
Sadly you can’t just move the camera, as rotstion will screen you in stacking (interpolation) and field rotation. You need to move the telescope so the target moves, usually done with guiding for ease of use, however you can do it with your main cam in NINA
I'm all confused again. 😦 What I got out of that is to eliminate walking noise one needs guiding.
Apologies! let me clear things up. Dithering is done "usually" by guiding, however dithering can be done using your main camera (for images to see how far its moved in frame) and mount through NINA, or even done manually by slewing the target around the frame (only has to be by around 10-50 pixels if doing it manually) every 2-5 frames
No. I don’t guide
And I’m walking noise free
That Atlas is fabulous
So, basically, "wiggle" it a little?
Sorta yeah! heres my 80 subs in Blink, you can see when its been dithered by the movement
If I'm on a DSLR shooting groups of 10 - 1.3 s subs, can I get away with giving it a nudge in between groups? Or should it really be every 3-5 subs?
If youre only doing 1.3s subs id dither once every 5 minutes or so
ah okay so processing tut when
I feel like then that dithering might be more challenging if untracked/manual because the image is going to move across/down the screen and you'll always want to be able to get it for longest time without having to adjust.
I'm going to re-do my image that was with the 585 and see how that came out. Maybe should have adjusted differently at each reset since I timed it for 250ms and 1.75 min at a time
Mostly when untracked you dont have to dither left or right as frame drift does it for you, just up and down slightly
4 months difference same setup
9 month difference
That's really good improvement
right is the new one?
What’s the setup if you don’t mind me asking?
Nikon d3300 and skywatcher 2i with an 18-200mm lens at 18mm f/3.5
planetary rig upgrade
Untracked?
Yes
that poor camera
before and after same data different processing technique
Definitely got the detail back
Yeah i should have used this image as my low comp entry
EvoGuide 50ed Vs Zoom lens. Plus editing experience
Nice, got the brightness in the zoom lens but nore detail in the dust on the guide scope
Brightness could also be cuz of different editing styles. I like how clean it is with the new scope
Yeah its true
yea left is nice
Also get urself a planatary cam!
Trust me It will be the best thing you ever buy
getting a 585 cooled
September '23 VS November '24
Definitely a difference 😄
I feel like "cooled" might be excessive for the 585 and planetary. 🤷
It's for dso imaging as well.
Ah, well ... chill, man. 😁
hey don’t diss the 585 man 
Not at all. I own one. And if/when seeing cooperates, get decent photos with it. Mine isn't cooled b/c planetary so all I was saying is that I thought being cooled was a little much for doing planetary.
Cheap department store telescope vs 6 inch SCT
Dang it actually resolved the gap between saturn and it's rings
Barely tho
Wth happened to uranus😿
i'm just glad i was actually able to get something that tiny though as teh width of it is just slightly smaller than mercury
hmm?
why did it turn uranus into the letter k 😭
Ahhhhh at that time, I didn't even have enough magnification to resolve uranus as a disk, and i just used my phone held up to the eyepiece. Very very very very VERY wobbly mount too...
Yea I had one of those scopes
As soon as you touch the focuser the object vanishes from the fov
Yep. Those things are called "hobby killers" for a reason... Certainly glad it didn't kill mine
Yeah I didn't even end up seeing anything through that scope other than the moon
Luckily the same night I got a new celestron scope there was really good seeing
But that scope was bad too, now I got a dob with great optics but terrible mount
i mean dobs really are meant for visual use only, so unless you're going into photography, can't be that bad, right...?
I've been doing ap with it
I mean I'd say my planetary is ok
Dso it's terrible at
I had to fight with it for months just to get this as my best dso image so far
That's pretty nice though! If you ever get a goto mount, life would be much easier, but i appreciate the dedication
It is goto...
It's just terrible
oh really??
The goto does quite the opposite of what you said
my goto isn't that great either... the backlash is absolutely horrible
It makes it so much more frustrating trying to get it to work
I'll get a onstepped eq5 before the end of winter tho
but does it actually do what's in the name and goto the object?
once my mount pointed to scorpius when I told it to goto m101, yes I aligned good
It's also allergic to astap
Never works and the one time it did, I was trying to point to m82 and it went to cygnus
You seriously gotta get something to make your life easier
this is worse than a hobby killer
I will dw
It won't kill the hobby lol, I know what the issue is and I'm already planning on getting a new mount
all i need is a mount too
it has good optics and I already have a uranus c
I need a mini pc too but that's smth to worry about later
Rn my cursed setup barely works
The fact that you were able to get all the planets even with the cheap department store telescope is crazy
Really good improvement though
Yeah how did he even find uranus and Neptune on that thing
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I simply just star hopped until i found the planet i was looking for
How did you star hop with the terrible mounts those things have
or i would just point at a star and wait until one of the planets reached the same altitude and slowly turn towards it
trust me, it was very painful
i don't want to ever go through that again
I got frostbite a few times just trying to get jupiter focused in one, I can't imagine how hard it is to do that on neptune
Out of curiosity, how could you tell it was a planet and not just a background star, when looking at the smaller targets, i.e. Mercury, Uranus, and Neptune?
oh i simply used stellarium to check i was pointed at the right place
Average astronomy experience
Oh yeah, it does
I don't have stellarium, unfortunately
NightSky works alright for me though
why not
there's a web version you can use right here
https://stellarium-web.org/
Stellarium Web is a planetarium running in your web browser. It shows a realistic star map, just like what you see with the naked eye, binoculars or a telescope.
much more expansive than the limited app on an iphone
wow so good
literally unusable unless you're in landscape mode
thank you Google play store, very cool
There's no cheap department store OTA that can capture Mercury, Uranus, and Neptune. All of those planets have a diameter that is less than what the OTA on a dept. store telescope is capable of even detecting per the laws of physics.
I'm aware of that. In those images I provided, they are just points of light like any other star from the view in a telescope. Should have made that clear, sorry.
Mercury appears almost as large as Saturn when it’s near to us. Whether you should try to spot it or not is a different matter.
this is from February to now btw
Last planetary season vs this planetary season. Same telescope. different camera (excluding my first pictures which were taken on a digital camera)
The Moon 16 months ago to now
feel like the one on the right could be desaturated, gave it a try
Major editing improvements
We all have our own style! Still a lovely image nonetheless
First mineral moon vs latest
In a little less then 2 years things have slightly changed…
6th December 2022 vs November 10th 2024,
Bet you cant tell which is which 😜
a few years have passed :^)
Same gear, exactly 1 year apart, I switched from phone to dslr
2 year difference, with a compleatly different rig though
spend more then a year trouble shooting with my swsa 2 (didn't produce any images) I raged and bought a swsa gti.
best decision of my life
skill issue fr

I had alot of help and nobody understood why it was tracking so poorly
Prob some internals that are broke
RGB align that bad boy
My registax is doing that dumb thing where only the top of the rgb align thing pops up
Try AstroSurface, much prefer it over registax
2022 vs 2024
Good progress! A next step would be to add calibration frames to see how the data improves 👀
7 Months difference
$90 refractor with phone camera to $400 goto dobsonian with 2008 dslr
Same data 3 years apart. Ik the current process is a bit pushed, but i wanted to see how much more I could push my first tracked data :)
what did you use for the 2024 mars image
2022 vs 2024
QHY 715C with the same 8" dob
no barlow?
Makes me excited to do some LI with my 715 and 8" newt, amazing stuff!
I use the same camera for deep space
is this from your espirit80?
8” dob and QHY715
Yea I'm not using anywhere near its full potential
Yea the new Orion was
Planetary was dob and 715c
Moon starting at 2021
Yummy
Mars last night compared to the beginning of November (exact same setup)
andromeda roughly a year later
I cooked the image to show it but damn you have a LOT of dust
you did a bobjones
3hrs at f2.8 is a lot...just need the intergration to get it all pulled out
ermmm what the dss processing
THIS MAN DESERVES RED DWARF
Wait
My bad
Thats why i said my bad
3.5 years apart 🙂
November 2023 - January 2024 -
february 2024 - november 2024
Just under a year difference with similar integration time
Old: HEQ 5 pro guided, Celestron C8, ASI 294MC pro, 3h 20m integration
New: HEQ 5 pro guided, Quattro 150p, ASI 1600MM pro, 1h 30m RGB. 1h Lum
The C8 process was better tbf, but the mono quattro seems alot sharper
i agree with your comments, the c8 data looks better processed, but the quattro, even though lacking on int, pulls through in sharpening. Well done.
bg also looks cleaner, but kinda difficult to see this cropped in
which ones wich? left old right new?
Left new right old
More dust on the left
slightly more
The blue is more realistic, but it’s too saturated
thats what i meant 😅
but the stars are more pin point on the right
Higher native focal length by 3x
makes sense
Little under a year of difference, totaly different gear
SHARP AF
Better process for new
Thank you, thats the power of 130pds
who said i cant do rigs? 1yr difference
Crashed out and made a big hole in my wallet, it keeps leaking but its tolerable
bro built a whole observatory in a year
why cant i buy an observatory at a home depot
I am expecting an another scope to piggyback the big boy
Scope depot is what you need
Might aswell shoot IR
Technically NIR but who cares
How many clear nights a year do you get?
1 at best. kidding. about 90, i dunno, i didn't measure it
i hope you can tell what the new image is lmao
the right one?

Wow 
Woah, huge improvement on the left image
Yep same just not puked on 
less then a years differance
same data after 3 months of processing improvement
2 years difference
1 year! The difference an upgrade in phones can make (first one heavily edited to bring out colour, second one not edited at all :D)
not just the color, but the sharpness and visible details are an improvement too
2023 vs 2024
how come the spikes in the 2023 image look like that?
i mean like the orange cyan alternating color
I used an l enhance duoband filter, and then scnr'ed the stars only layer causing it to have that orange blue look.
That whole image is full of bad processing methods 
Bruh
Yep duoband data alone on that target is usually not a good idea
Needs to be added to good RGB data
the progression of my rig over the past year (yes the tripod collapsed in one of these)
Wtf, why was the tripod tilted so dam much in that 4th image??
it hurts my eyes a lto
it's giving me anxiety just looking at it lol
Quote from the poster "yes the tripod collapsed in one of these" think that sums it up pretty well
i was right next to it looking through the finderscope and just got headhshot
it just dropped instantly
imagine if it fell
Ah, scope-kissed by a telescope! That's a new one
Oh dam, didn't even pay attention to the title fully after seeing that 4th image.
XD i didnt either till i saw everyone elses messages abt the 4th image lol
Roughly three years difference
Cool
Thanks 😄

Month difference
74 is INSANE
DSLR difference (Stock vs Modded)
Bro how in the world did you manage to move by 0.3 of a degree

I reprocessed my Rho Ophiuchi (It took 6 hours lmao) data from May. I am still surprised how much my processing has improved. This is the EXACT same data. (Also before you say that there's a gradient it's intentional because that's what the MW core does)
really nice stuff
Woah
My first ever pic vs my last. Same gear (except for major modifications and upgrades on the lego tracker), almost exactly 1 year apart
Also, first pic was from B4 while the last from B6
Got a new camera from the svbony105 to the zwo662
orion nebula exactly a year apart, christmas morning and christmas night, 4.5 mins of exposure each
2023 vs 2024
Those deep blues mixed with the bright oranges🫠
same setup 2 years later (phone astro is overpowered)
2 year difference
Every image of M42 I have taken so far.
2023 VS 2024
Both are pretty good but that's a nice improvement
Yea the biggest difference is equipment
And riddance of some weird ass processing methods
But tbf the new M42 isn't finished yet.
I don’t know why but I like the 2023 image more, I feel like seeing the abundance of stars is more appealing but again both images are really good
What happened to the top left corner in the newer image?
Just zoom in 
Also the phat ass stars take away from the dust
But yea I see what you mean
its my telescope's microlensing from the bright star
processing improvement over almost exactly 1 year using pixinsight. Not my data. Data from @woeful marsh and collaborator.
2023 data had lots of potential but looks like u borked ur dbe
yea on the mid right it looks like the dbe ate a lot of nebulosity, same on bottom left.
This is about 6 months lol. First image primarily bad because i didn’t yet have guiding or a lp filter for the imaging train yet
why does everything look kinda soft lol
On the 2023 image?
on this
Cause gear and not enough integration time?
have u still got the stack? or na
ah alr
But yea that previous image the DBE was fine, I just didn't push reds in the background, which is arguably a little more natural.
Also I remember I may have done some masking to the background to reduce color noise by desaturating. Another no go, so yea in another sense it is borked.
oof, yea that’s prob what i’m seeing
Lol, this is a recent HOO.
way nicer, with esprit 80?
Ye
nice nice
I like that HOO
Might have to try reprocessing my fish head now
speaking of fish head
how it started vs how it's going
10 month gap with the same telescope (left with an iphone camera, right with a dedicated astronomy camera)
Same target
insane difference! you can very faintly see the core of the nebula in the first. I wouldn't know they're the same target without being told 
not of progress, but of time.
April 2022 and January 2025
left is the 7th picture I have on my phone, right i took an hour and a half ago.
(moon and Venus btw)
Saturn Venus and Jupiter through a 60mm spotting scope and iphone 12mini (2023)
vs 2024 saturn venus and jupiter through my 5inch maksutov ,2x barlow, uv ir cut and neptune 664c (havent reached its full potential yet)
Saturn looks like a elongated m27
Woah it does.
First one is from 2022, second was from 2 days ago
3 years seperation, about the same integration IIRC, better skies, better camera.
great! keep it up
thanks
(second image is my data combined with astrosteff's data so gotta give him credit)
Throwin my first M81 in here too
What was the integration time for these images?
Like 1h 40m- 2h each
Something like that
Pretty nice 👌
2 months apart and the only difference between the images is that I modded the camera.
That's an insane amount of improvement for just modding the camera
It is, I didn't use a narrowband filter either because I didn't have it at the time. They are both 3h of exposure from a bortle 2
what is your setup?
that image was taken with the skywatcher ed80, eq6r, modded canon 4000d, guiding
