Yunjin Thread

[modern blaze]

if you don't want to farm 4p husk you can also try 2p husk 2p eosf

[high urchin]

Ahh, 2 SF for increased uptime?

[modern blaze]

yes, she only cares about def and ER

[high urchin]

Gotcha

[modern blaze]

maybe crit rate if you give her favonius lance

[high urchin]

I see

Just trying to see how much def% you'd be potentially losing from running 4-star flower and feather via substats

It'd be what, ~11% from feather and flower, under ideal circumstances?

Although I suppose you'd be wanting ER substats for uptime

[modern blaze]

tbh 2p defender 2p husk is perfectly usable if you have other things to farm outside husk domain, it should be pretty cheap on resin
but eosf domain is one of the best to farm imo so why not just go with 2p eosf instead?

[high urchin]

Makes sense

Thanks a bunch!

[tardy thunder]

Probably not crescent pike passive amounts for a lot of damage

#・faq

[ornate dagger]

do yun jin's normal attack buff applies to her too or only the other 3 party members?

[tardy thunder]

Everyone

[sour root]

All whoever is doing normal attack dmg under her burst

[ornate dagger]

oh ok tysm

[indigo spear]

hello, has anybody made the NA damage formula when YunJin's burst effect is active?

[tardy thunder]

Yes

[mental ingot]

miHoYo did.

[tardy thunder]

so, if my sheet is correct, YunJin is worth about double Bennets buff for Yoimiya in the Yoi Bennet YunJin Kazuha team and Bennet (even with pyro resonance and c6 accounted for) is only increasing Yoi damage by like 25%. but i cant think of anyone we can replace him with. zhong would work it seem Bennet is only an 11% increase over Zhong here, but i want an upgrade not a downgrade

maybe just cant improve the team any further this as best as it gets yoi bennet kazuha yunjin

to be precise, if I remove Bennets buffs Yoi damage become 604,050. with him, 773,330

and if I remove YunJins buffs we go from 773,330, to 502,569

[tardy thunder]

which i believe is like a 53% increase

vs bennets 28%

so if my math is correct YunJins buff is worth...89% more than Bennets on Yoi here?

what we need to perfect YoiYunjin is for Yae to be an off field NA damage sub dps with a shield

[river yew]

would zhong be almost on par on practice considering how it makes the team more comfy

?

[tardy thunder]

its a point that could be argued but you would also have to subtract Bennets personal damage

not thats its much

but its a lot more than zhongs if zhong cant Q

i need to add the rest of the team to this sheet to get the full team dps gimme like an hour

ill crank that out

[river yew]

do we have any healer that does good personal damage?

[tardy thunder]

bennet

[river yew]

hey what if

[tardy thunder]

is that a codex kokomi

[river yew]

no

that's honey standard

[tardy thunder]

oh lol

[river yew]

use ttds

[tardy thunder]

need to know if Koko lets Yoi vape here

but no one has been able to test that for me

[river yew]

probably not really

unless you can infuse kaz with hydro though

though tbh infusing kaz with hydro + making kokomi do ttds buff seems to make rotation annoying to say the least

[tardy thunder]

yeah

[river yew]

well tbh

ig ttds is not really needed that much

vape seems to increase the damage a lot

[tardy thunder]

yeah ttds not needed

[night cliff]

rotation would be too long?

[tardy thunder]

idk

i dont have yoi or zhong to simulate it

[night cliff]

but then if you switch bennet with ZL you cant reliably swirl pyro unless you have a lot of ER on yoi right?

[tardy thunder]

you would use her Q first rotation

after first rotation pyro should still be remaining on enemies for your next swirls

and if its not, you can do a CA

[night cliff]

mm

well I feel like probably in that team ZL Q would be worth only if you have multiple enemies

but you arent using aoe mod so

[tardy thunder]

actually @night cliff one thing i failed to consider

is if we can use petra reliably on zhongli

if we can then zhong might end up resulting in more damage than bennet

would need to figure out the petra uptime tho

i can prob simulate it assuming 50% uptime

just to get an idea

tho at the same time...we can probably use petra on bennet

would need to an early YunJin E tho

[night cliff]

you need to do yunjin then yoi right?

[tardy thunder]

ya

[night cliff]

for maximun Q uptime

yeah petra is only like 10s?

[tardy thunder]

yeah

[night cliff]

why cant you proc petra offfield

[tardy thunder]

if its on bennet or zhong you prob only get like 5s uptime of it

geo stonks would skyrocket

[night cliff]

yoi was the definition of "lazy gaming" for skill issue players but tbf adding petra ZL and rr cancelling is already going against that

[tardy thunder]

I think even a 5s uptime Petra for Yoi here would be better than NO tbh

Since damage bonus is way more valuable than attack here

[night cliff]

10s uptime is so low

for petra

how long is vv debuff? i dont remember

[tardy thunder]

10s

[night cliff]

what would the rotation look like

if you want both maximum kazu vv uptime and petra uptime?

[tardy thunder]

no idea

im not good at coming up with rotations

[vestal cipher]

how would you apply pyro before kazuha? yoi Q?

[sour root]

Yoi q is good for that

Generally speaking

[river yew]

just realised you can't really use this team since there is pretty much no way to get both hydro infusion and pyro swirl here so welp

[tardy thunder]

pain

also just finished the full team dps calc

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1piEWat4UhgyfLmRewWr4Fn4xG3XPGjMNTCEmInfExVA/edit?usp=sharing

[river yew]

seems close enough to mine

although actually hmm

[tardy thunder]

[river yew]

my calcs were higher than that with rust and c1 benny, weird

[tardy thunder]

did you calc Yoi E affecting YunJin Q?

[river yew]

no

well tbh i assumed 18.7s rotation and no yoi q

so it might partially explain it

[tardy thunder]

still doesnt sound right

a 1.3s shorter rotation shouldnt result in rust doing more dmg than TP

whats the exact damage numbers you have?

[river yew]

something like that

[tardy thunder]

oh its r5 rust, not r1

[tardy thunder]

if i change my rotation time to the same as what you have the team dps goes up to 51k

im not sure what the dmg difference between r5 rust and TP is but it seem reasonable enough

[river yew]

they should be higher tbh

[tardy thunder]

whats your attack chain on Yoi?

[river yew]

3N5+N2

[tardy thunder]

maybe the different attack chain explains it

oh, whats your bennet buff uptime?

i did 9N2 with Bennet buff falling off on the last three N2

[river yew]

oh

[tardy thunder]

so 6N2 bennet buffed 3N2 not bennet buffed

[river yew]

are you sure 9n2 is good with yoi even with yj?

[tardy thunder]

wym

[river yew]

well i didn't really look up into but i thought it's less mv than just 3n5?

[river yew]

and yeah, that is probably the reason, since i assumed bennett to work for 14.5s, so only the last 2 attacks don't have bennett buff

[river yew]

oh yeah also the rotation there is slightly outdated since i changed kaz QE to just Q

[tardy thunder]

9N2 is 27 hits, and 2113 and 3356 MV. 3N5+N2 is 3795 MV, but only 24 hits. i went with N2 because without a shielder doing N5 on Yoi, ive been told, is unrealistic due to no interruption protection so without shield she have to do a shorter attack chain. The N2s is also more hits, which means more YunJin procs

[river yew]

maybe ig, honestly too sleepy rn to think about it

[tardy thunder]

YunJins buff nearly doubles Yois damage so im of the believe that getting more YunJin procs is more important than getting more MV

[river yew]

ok

[tardy thunder]

i havent cranked enough different scenarios to confirm how true that is tho

[tame tree]

dude, you are so good at naming teams wtf?

[tardy thunder]

Thanks

[sour root]

I second summer opera

[hazy ocean]

can she work with dps kokomi?

[mental ingot]

No.

[random cloud]

Are there any good yoi yunjin teams that doesn't involve kazuha?

[sour root]

Fischl, bennett

Xingqiu

Venti

Yoimiya is super flexible

Sucrose with ttds

[random cloud]

Ohhh, I see, thanks! In Yoi, Xinqiu, and Yunjin - Is sucrose better for last slot or bennett, just for pure damage perspective

[sour root]

I havent calced either so i cant say

But i know both would work

[random cloud]

I see, I'll be patiently waiting for more info then, thanks!

[sour root]

Sucrose will give that EM buff and shred though which appeals to me more

But bennet means pyro res and better battery and massive buff

I think a well built bennyis hard to beat tbh

[random cloud]

[dark pendant]

From a pure damage perspective, Sucrose should actually be better

Sucrose's buffs are very similar to Kazuha, and Kazuha is better because he buffs both Yoimiya's damage and Yun Jin's stacks.

Unlike Bennett, who doesn't buff Yun Jin's stacks

I'm pretty sure that Kazuha teams are higher than Bennett's

Yep, Kazuha is better damage wise. Sucrose teams should be around the same level.

Kazuha
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OgUhPXlqOBmLRUMqUlDHQBAoFtJhMGa6AFEc4BF56es/edit?usp=sharing

Bennett
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1weIPpbfJd3fUKfMu3bmc_sOqWFSz2iAUTJfENzgOqoA/edit?usp=sharing

Credits to Noir

Bennett is not that far behind and does provide healing though, so it's up to you if you prefer higher damage over more commodity

Either way, Yun Jin best Yoimiya support

[random cloud]

Thank you!

[dark pendant]

[forest rivet]

With regards to Yunjin's 2nd Ascension Passive, does having 3 different element be better than having a Rainbow Team Comp?

[tardy thunder]

You can replace Kazuha he should be BiS but not impossible to replace

Who do you have to use instead?

[tardy thunder]

You don’t build around her ascension talent

[random cloud]

I have every other 4* available and for 5* I don't have albedo/kazuha/jean/kokomi

[tardy thunder]

Wait why would sucrose be better?

[tardy thunder]

You could play Yoimiya Yunjin Xinqiu Zhongli

[random cloud]

I see, thanks! Is this better than C6 Suc / T9 Benny with Aquila?

[tardy thunder]

There’s no room for either of them

You need a shield for Vape Yoimiya

[random cloud]

Ohh yeah got it, thanks!

[forest rivet]

I c i c

[dark pendant]

Sucrose is a sidegrade to Kazuha for vape teams

And Kazuha teams are higher than Bennett's

Shields add a lot of comodity, but they only asked which team had more DPS

[tardy thunder]

Thats not always true

also sidegrade =/= being higher damage

[tawny spoke]

I wonder who started this line of thinking

[dark pendant]

I was comparing Kazuha/Sucrose with Bennett

Sucrose very similar to Kazuha in vape teams like XL or Tao

[dark pendant]

Calcs

Kazuha is generally better but in vape specifically there isn't much difference between both

[random widget]

what artifacts are recommended for yunjin?

[dark pendant]

Husk of Opulent Dreams, DEF/DEF/DEF

[random widget]

noice, thank you!

[dark pendant]

Np

[random widget]

this is primarily focused on the bonus dmg given right?

[tardy thunder]

you want to run as much defense as possible to make her buff as big as possible

i think only exception would be if you're doing a main dps YunJin

which i might start calcing

not sure what the team would be tho

[random widget]

ahh no dont worry, im making her a support!

is it possible to make her a hybrid? (shield and buff)

[tardy thunder]

i wouldnt advise it

only ways id play her is pure support or on field dps

no idea how good on field dps is yet havent started calculating it

[azure folio]

umm ... i was wondering .. how would Yoijin team work with Kokomi nd Tohma !?

Tohma there for shielding + pyro reso+c6 nd Kokokshko for vape+healing

i m a nub mobile player .. so when playing with Yoimiya i need that shielding nd healing both at the same time ..

nd honestly even tho this team might be considerably have lower dmg compared to Kazu/Sucrose - Bennet team comps .. i thought this team would be a lot safe for me to play 🤔

[random widget]

i see i see, then ill just make her pure support

im not too good at using geo characters and all so im not planning to make her dps

[tardy thunder]

@balmy remnant im reading your yunjin frame sheet but im dumb - based off the frames you have for her how many stacks of her ult do you think she herself can get with what attack chain, if shes the on field dps?

[balmy remnant]

7N4D + N1, 43 hits

[tardy thunder]

thnx

hmm

so something like YunJin Bennet Rosaria Fischl prob the play

zomg thats 4 elements

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IARa-blbnkHw9_cZQ39UQMdHRAr9S9HoDBFxojM05WY/edit?usp=sharing anyway heres my Ning Venti YunJin sheet (doesnt have yunjin and bennet personal damage yet)

a direct upgrade over YunJin here would probably be albedo tho since Venti would be allowing him to get aoe on his E plus quadratic on his ult, in addition to Ning getting aoe

but that shouldnt invalidated YunJins existence here not everyone has albedo or has him not taken by other team

imma sheet pike yunjin now

[tardy thunder]

How many you think in 6s if we were to swap off early for dual carry shenanigans?

[balmy remnant]

3N4D + N3, 22 hits

[tardy thunder]

Thnx

[red island]

Xiao with and without C6 Yun Jin vs a lv86 hilichurl

bonus 12% attack speed

[tardy thunder]

hoiw does it account for attack speed?

[red island]

faster damage so it's like 12% overall damage

[tardy thunder]

makes sense

[red island]

without Bennett's Q N1 is 18158 x2 +12%atk speed

[compact girder]

[peak sigil]

Man what is this xiaos cv

83k plunge

Insane bruh

Damn c4 albedo really is good for xiao

Watching him do 156k with c4 albedo and c3 Mona and Aquila Bennett

Stronk

[timid portal]

[peak sigil]

The 70/300 crit also helps

[red island]

49k N1

+12% Attack Speed

I just need to crown my Yun Jin...

[brazen bear]

Will yunjin boost Raiden's attacks during her Q? Do those count as normal dmg or burst dmg?

[timid portal]

burst dmg

[zinc tide]

Did you get around to doing full team dps for pikeli?

[tardy thunder]

yes

i think

let me check

i forget

need to edit it tho found errors in my template

the damage in all of my sheets has been lower than it should be

found errors

ok i did not calc full team damage for pikeli

just zhong and rosaria

[tardy thunder]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1piEWat4UhgyfLmRewWr4Fn4xG3XPGjMNTCEmInfExVA/edit?usp=sharing fixed some errors that were present in this sheet

dps is now 51.4k

think it might be worth it to run favonious on bennet so kazuha can use iron sting

[zinc tide]

51.4k seems a lot better lol

24k previously was super sad

[tardy thunder]

it was never 24k

[zinc tide]

Wasn’t it something like 4xN5D+CP for 400k total damage over 17 seconds?

[tardy thunder]

Oh that’s the carry YunJin team

What I linked is Yoimiya team

[zinc tide]

Oh

So ZL team is still copium?

[tardy thunder]

Which team?

[novel nova]

Is xiao yunjin copium or just no sheets yet?

[zinc tide]

Pikeli Bennett rosaria yunjin

[tardy thunder]

That teams damage looks rlly good so far

[tardy thunder]

It’s not copium it just doesn’t necessarily look like an upgrade

An alternative way of playing him but I don’t know that we can call it an upgrade

Will need to re-explore it tomorrow when she’s out

[tardy thunder]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1snnq0h-BzS7DowRVNtq_k6ezOT6X73JwoNy2kUa66pw/edit Zhongli is doing 457k here

[novel nova]

Whats zhong frames again if we cancel kick ealry?

[tardy thunder]

I think it’s in the pinned frame sheet

The top pin from JRM

[zinc tide]

457k over 17 second rotation is <27k

And yunjin and Bennett do basically zero 😅

So it’s whatever he does + rosaria off field E/Q which seems not competitive, on top of being single target

Is that about right?

[tardy thunder]

Yeah Rosaria damage is calced

[tardy thunder]

Bennets damage isn’t nothing

His damage is actually respectable

It ain’t much but it’s honest work

Rosaria is doing 199k there

[novel nova]

Basically 38k dps thats ok

Eula was 34k before raiden right?

[tardy thunder]

She’s 34k with Raiden.

[tardy thunder]

Can guesstimate Yunjin plus bennet damage will put it 41-42k

[sour root]

@tardy thunder are u geared to day 1 test anyone?

[timid portal]

4sr or 2pf2bc?

@tardy thunder

[tardy thunder]

2 PF 2 BSC

Forgot to change set name when I changed it

Was originally SR until I realized SR doesn’t buff Pike damage

[tardy thunder]

Uhh YunJin but I prob won’t get her day 1

[queen mica]

how much er would a yunjin need on noelle albedo yunjin ?

[river yew]

what's the rota btw

[red island]

yun jin

how much do I need to C6 her

[night cliff]

usually on avg 200 rolls I guess

[timid portal]

what a big fat lie

[red island]

lol

[crystal flame]

Yeah that's just wrong, I think a 4* C6 is statistically around 250~300 pulls

[red island]

I see, I only have about 120 pulls...

[crystal flame]

but you can be extremely lucky and get it under 150...
or never get it

Yeah 120, you are not getting it C6

[red island]

seems so yeah

[crystal flame]

unless you are really lucky and get the one free from the event but that's unlikely

[red island]

there's like a 10% chance I can get her to C6

[crystal flame]

yeah seems like it 11.2% from 120 pulls to get C5

[red island]

pulling for gorou was a mistake

[night cliff]

It is not a lie AVG is between 200 and 250

You can even get lucky/unlucky like this

[timid portal]

then what about my 100 pulls for c1 gorou

[red island]

@night cliff you got zero thomas

it's a low chance but still a chance

[night cliff]

Yeah

4* rng

If I wanted diona that was nice, if I wanted sayu or Thoma then I got zero with 100 pulls

[red island]

yun jin is so good

The amount of teams yun jin will be replacing bennett in is unfathomable

[honest hare]

wait... really?

[tardy thunder]

Her buff is bigger than his

For NA characters

But you don’t have to replace him you can run both

[honest hare]

but there aren't that many NA characters are there?

[tardy thunder]

There’s a lot

[slim cloak]

is there any eula raiden yunjin + geo calc so far?

or at least some insight into if that team could work?

[red island]

every main will use yun jin nowadays

even slow claymores get buffed a ton

C6 Kazuha with Yun Jin is on another level

[wheat valley]

Still waiting to test out Razor

I'm not calcing sht with his hitlag stuff

[tardy thunder]

Yup he’s literally perfect for her at c6

[wheat valley]

[tardy thunder]

Ton of damage bonus and multi hits

[red island]

it's unreal

it makes him as good as xiao in dps

[tardy thunder]

If he surprised if it didn’t make him way better

[red island]

ikr

Yun Jin is a god

everyone will be screaming when she comes

It's been 1 and a half years since we got this good of a character like Bennett

[river yew]

I wouldn't say she is as good as bennett since she is still pretty niche (Even though she is amazing in that niche) but yeah

[eternal tree]

It can work. The main problem however is that you're going to need more ER on Eula than what you're used to. It will have to be looked into to see if it's worth to have 2x geo chars and not Yun Jin + Diona.

[slim cloak]

am i right to understand that potentially:

1. raiden cannot solo battery for eula?

2. it is a valid option to run yunjin solo just for her burst buff, without need of geo reso?

3. thoughts on kokomi as 4th instead? its TTDS buff + a much needed heal
   3.1 at the same time one can also argue might as well remove yunjin for rosa right ☠️

[eternal tree]

1. Raiden will only provide ~20-30 energy to each member in your comp depending on her own ER%. You need more energy from your 2 other team members to fill the void if you don't want to increase your ER% on Eula. Fav weapons will most likely be mandatory but you'd still need a little more ER% on Eula nontheless.

2. Possibly. I haven't calced anything yet so this is something that has to be looked into. You're effectively gauging the power of cryo reso + more energy vs geo reso + whatever the 2nd Geo char brings.

3. The problem with Kokomi is that she doesn't really provide anything of value to a Eula team. TTDS won't affect Eula's burst due to the short duration, her energy gen is low and you won't get any resonance from running her.

3.1. Yes, that is also something to be looked at. Rosa provides north of 150k total damage in a Raiden + Eula team and the question that has to be answered is if Yun Jin's Q + E can even compete with Rosaria.
One thing that does has to also be mentioned is that Rosaria Q is a stationary effect while Yun Jin's Q is mobile since it's a buff.

[compact girder]

Doesnt kokomi heal though?

Shields are negligible to eula since she has extremely high poise

So id think heals are preffered

[eternal tree]

The healing/shielding was implied

since the spot that Kokomi takes in the team is the one for healers/shielders

[compact girder]

Hmm i think the ttds buff is still nice though

Since eula autos are good damage

I think the kokomi eula team is

Raiden Eula Kokomi Rosaria

[eternal tree]

ttds will provide some damage just not "that" much

[compact girder]

Arent eula autos a good amount of her damage too

[eternal tree]

in ST her autos are around 30% of her total damage

[vernal grotto]

Hello, for Eula & Yunjin, do we prefer Fischl or Raiden?
Eula Yunjin Diona Raiden or Fischl?

Or maybe that's not important since Yunjin's buff isn't pertinent for both of them?

[eternal tree]

It's the second option you mentioned. Neither Raiden or Fischl will change anything since they won't utilize Yun Jin in any way

[vernal grotto]

Okay thank you!

[tardy thunder]

@tiny tide could make it a 21s rotation and do 3 YJ E

Dunno if worth

[tiny tide]

that would be great me thinks

[tardy thunder]

Idk what else to add in tho

To extend the rotation by 3s

[tiny tide]

lets ya get 2 more ish albedo procs off too

[tardy thunder]

Ok

[tiny tide]

i think you would just NA on yunjin

[tardy thunder]

Dunno how many more she would get tho

[tiny tide]

how long is cast on yunjin e

or is it last b4 switching to gorou

if its last its just how long into her na chain she can get

[tardy thunder]

Uhh the frames are in pinned sheet

I think

[tiny tide]

it is

wahts the combo she is already doing

just n5 spam?

[tardy thunder]

N4D

Can prob use E cancels instead of D cancels whenever it’s off cd

[tiny tide]

n4 is 101 frames

idk how long dash is

[balmy remnant]

i put N4D so you know the dash is counted in that too

N4 without the dash is 77 frames

[tiny tide]

ah ok

ty

[balmy remnant]

well, N4 to the second hit mark

[tiny tide]

with n4d you can get a charge 2 e before going to gorou i think?

or you do charge 1 and go to gorou half a second earlier

[tardy thunder]

You wanna use it after Gorou

To get his buffs

[tiny tide]

n4d + switch would get ya to the 20 seconds then me thinks

[tardy thunder]

So n4d instead of third E?

[tiny tide]

yeah and then that e is in next rotation anyway

[tardy thunder]

Ok

It’s 34k now

Went up but barely

[tiny tide]

zamn

[tardy thunder]

Bennet would definitely be way better here than Xinyan

I think

[tiny tide]

could be

especially cuz of that additional n4d

[tardy thunder]

DM might be better than pike here tho due to the low attack cuz no bennet plus the E and Q actually doing decent damage due to Gorou

I’m kinda curious on a “hyper Yunjin” build tbh with YunJin bennet(c6) Gorou and Kazuha

[tiny tide]

idk about gorou there

but idk who else would go there

[tardy thunder]

Petra Gorou, to be specific

[tiny tide]

ooh yeah that makes sense

[tardy thunder]

He’d buff your damage by a lot between his defense buffs geo buffs and Petra

Other option would be Xinqiu for vapes maybe

You also get the resonance from Gorou tho

[tiny tide]

with xq vapes could be weird i think

might depend on kaz ult?

[tardy thunder]

I don’t think it would be worth vape cuz her MVs are tiny

And you’re gonna deplete all your YJ stacks very fast so you don’t rlly need vape after they are all depleted anyway

So having Gorou buffing all your damage instead prob better

[tiny tide]

yeah probably

[tardy thunder]

Wonder if we can make that a 15s rotation

[tiny tide]

with that comp i think so

[tardy thunder]

With Gorou Q only used every other rotation

[tiny tide]

gorou ult isnt as needed there i dont think

[tardy thunder]

Yup

Since no albedo and Xinyan double dipping on it

[tiny tide]

you might just need to grab a crystalise shield every now and again

for geo res

[tardy thunder]

Hmm

Tryna map out the rotation

[tiny tide]

especially for gorou archaic too

[tardy thunder]

Yeah

[tiny tide]

bennett > gorou > kaz > yunjin makes sense for most buff uptime

archaic is only 10 s from gorou pick up and kaz is 8

[tardy thunder]

Yeah and prob swap from YJ to Gorou at the moment his E would be off CD cast E and pick up crystal then swap back to YJ until all other buffs expire?

Hmm feel like using Kazuha Q after bennet would kill bennet uptime tho

[tiny tide]

you might just have to let gorou buffs drop for a sec or two

[tardy thunder]

True

[tiny tide]

and then start rotation again

kaz and gorou buffs would drop at roughly the same time anyway

[tardy thunder]

Maybe…Bennet E>Kazuha EQ>Bennet EQ>Gorou EQ>Kazuha E>YunJin EQ N4D spam, 2nd E when it’s up?

[tiny tide]

why the bennett e > kaz eq?

[tardy thunder]

Need pyro for him to swirl and infuse

[tiny tide]

can use bennett ult self infuse for that

[tardy thunder]

Right but I don’t want to use Kazuha Q during bennet ult

It’s gonna eat like 2s of the uptime

[tiny tide]

could you then just kaz q > bennett eq > rest of rotation

[tardy thunder]

That’s 1 less Kazuha E tho

[tiny tide]

kaz e wouldnt really help there without the bennett e to swirl

[tardy thunder]

Wym

[tiny tide]

going just kaz eq> rotation

is just kaz's flat damage which should still be fine

[tardy thunder]

That’s why the bennet E is there

[tiny tide]

doing that for first rotation makes sense then yeah

for second onward its not needed me thinks

[tardy thunder]

Ya 2nd rotation you won’t need to

[tiny tide]

the rest of the rotation should be fine yeah

repeated rotation would be like 15-16 seconds overall me thinks

[tardy thunder]

First rotation: Bennet E>Kazuha EQ>Bennet EQ>Gorou EQ(crystal pickup)>YunJin EQ N4D spam, 2nd E in there somewhere. 2nd rotation: Kazuha EQ>Bennet EQ>Gorou EQ(crystal pickup) >YunJin EQ N4D spam, 2nd E in somewhere

Sound fine?

[tiny tide]

yep

you could gorou qe actually

to pull crystal first

[tardy thunder]

True

[tardy thunder]

Energy kinda bad

Might need to swap to Gorou to use his E off cd for energy

And do the 2 Bennet E per rotation even after 1st rotation

[tiny tide]

This both fav on kaz and gorou or just one?

[tardy thunder]

On bennet and Gorou

Oh I should give Kazuha 2 Es

How’s that look @tiny tide

[tiny tide]

Looks achieve able

[tardy thunder]

[tiny tide]

This with 2 Bennett e’s?

[tardy thunder]

Hmm do I wanna take nap or calc this

[tardy thunder]

Yeah 2 Es on everyone

Gave Gorou 2 fav procs and bennet 1

[tiny tide]

Nap and wake up to yae mods :Copium:

[tardy thunder]

[tardy thunder]

Or I prob need to changer the time on field for each character here huh

[vale furnace]

Only a few more hours till we can test

[red island]

I did the math and Xiao AA does better DPS

[tacit zodiac]

my def/def/def yunjin's gonna have 76/95 crit with deathmatch lmao

[dark pendant]

How does it compare to regular Xiao teams?

[sour root]

I assume thats purely ST situations right

[tardy thunder]

Yup his N3 does quite significantly more damage than HP when he has YunJin buff. Problem tho is that you lose out on AoE from his plunges

[tardy thunder]

@tiny tide im replacing gorou here with xiangling

rotation will be a bit longer but she provides buffs with pyro shred and dmg bonus and a lot of dmg

and we can just move petra to bennet from gorou

[tiny tide]

Yeah that makes sense

[tacit zodiac]

yeay (with deathmatch)

[livid flume]

what is the basic yunjin yoimiya comp?

[tardy thunder]

Yunjin yoi bennet kazuha

[livid flume]

works for me

[modern blaze]

now that she's out
is there any news about her kit? any unexpected interactions?

[livid flume]

so yunjin runs def%/def%/ and def% or crit rate circlet?

[modern blaze]

def% unless you're using fav lance
even then, you should try to get crit from subs instead of the circlet

[livid flume]

i got 44% cr from subs w/ r3 fav

is there a better weap option for her?

she rocking 44% cr w/ 175 er

[compact girder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWKAqDFfH1U

100k counter already

[modern blaze]

not "better" but an option is prototype starglitter

it has more ER but you lose on the fav proc
depends on if you want to build crit on her or not tbh

[livid flume]

ah okay

[latent cloud]

100k, only when mona burst is active

[random cloud]

[tardy thunder]

It’s still OP

[random cloud]

Are yunjin cons a big factor of her being good~

[languid socket]

sorry, that wasn't meant for here

[plain mirage]

how is shenhe Dmg Bonus calculated

[modern blaze]

she looks good enough at c0, but getting to c3 would be nice
but maybe i'm just coping because i only got 1 copy of her in 70 pulls

[compact girder]

Like cinnabar spindle/moonglow/redhorn

[plain mirage]

i dont know how those are calced

[compact girder]

After the Atk % mv but before crit nd dmg bonus

[modern blaze]

someone posted this in the shenhe tread

[compact girder]

So its (raw scaling + Yun jin/shen buff) x dmg bonus x crit

[modern blaze]

it's a nice way to represent how dmg is calc'd

[white plinth]

why's that guy using mona anyway, 60% dmg from omen vs 100% dmg from just waiting a bit with monogeo in this abyss

[tardy thunder]

According to KQM YunJin buff gets extended by hitlag

[tawny spoke]

Noelle and tao gaming

Xl gaming

[tardy thunder]

Everyone other than fischl and yoi gaming basically

[regal forum]

what does this mean btw?

[grizzled schooner]

So now that yunjin’s released how good is her buff?

[wheat valley]

Pog. Kazuha stonks.

Also Razor

[novel nova]

https://preview.redd.it/lcybxz09mt981.gif?width=640&format=mp4&s=4cea987c1d087fa8ea62d78c166b9f169b311182

58k zl kick lol

[wheat valley]

[vernal grotto]

Hello! So does that means that Yoimiya/Fischl are not as strong as we thought with Yunjin because they hit too fast?

[lofty karma]

they still dump all stacks before yunjin runs out

so doesn't matter that they dont get hitlag

also dumping faster is better because better buff windows

and possible shorter rotations

team of sara physchl rosaria yunjin can do 15s rotations if you just don't use oz

because fischl can dump 30 stacks in 6s flat

[vernal grotto]

that's impressive! okay so I misunderstand, I thought that being too fast was a bad thing

Thank you very much for explaining it to me

[tame tree]

man...

[tame tree]

it means that Yoi E only multiplies the Personal dmg in this image
and not the whole Base dmg

[tawdry lava]

is it the same for xiao?

[tame tree]

no

Xiao is just DMG% Bonus

so it enters the "Damage bonus" part of the equation

[worn saffron]

https://www.reddit.com/r/YunjinMains/comments/rwh27f/yo_ngl_this_seems_kinda_poggers/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[novel nova]

Still crazy thats white tassels

[timid portal]

oya

[tardy thunder]

No

It means characters that get hitlag will get more stacks than we thought

[vernal grotto]

Okay I see

Thanks!

[pulsar cliff]

Yunjin Thread

[worn saffron]

I'm in shock man

What

How

Yunjin adds 3k on my yoimiya NA damage per hit

I have 800 DEF 4 Husk, and 2/2/2 talent level 40

[tardy thunder]

Cuz YunJin is a very powerful buffer

[worn saffron]

Yeah, I just didn't expect her to buff yoimiya that much on that stats

I was shocked when I was hitting hillichurls and with just her no benny burst I hit, 15k

[stark wolf]

So, how good is Yunjin? Does she replace anyone in any team comps?

[sour root]

Noir has calced a few teams and they work

I am blown away by my yoimiya damage

Im tryinging physical zhongli and qiqi next

[night cliff]

what's your yunjin const

[sour root]

C5

[night cliff]

give

[sour root]

😂

I got her every 10 pull then ning cons i needed right after

Lost my 50/50 on shenhe

[night cliff]

I cant pull her on my main where yoi is

For my alt i got one yunjin out of 80rolls

[sour root]

Ouch

U get shenhe for ur troubles?

[night cliff]

after jean but yes

[sour root]

Nice after 25 too

I wanted her bad but now i have a guaranteed

[night cliff]

Broke my winning streak

[sour root]

And yae leaks looking juicy

[night cliff]

Im going to get yae on my main so no problem

my 4* rng was always bad

[sour root]

It took me months to get bennett

And i had c3 ning till this banner

And im a dolphin from launch

[night cliff]

what's bennet

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/792147187076694057/926764155648749668/unknown-107.png

[sour root]

This ur alt or main tho 🤔

[night cliff]

main

[tame tree]

wait, what do you mean?
Diluc can use 2 stacks in a single NA?

man, I wish I could go for C6 Yunjin, but I have to cope with C0 for now

[night cliff]

At least you got c0

I need to wait latern rite

[tame tree]

at least only C6 is really impactful right?

[tame tree]

oh no, I dont have her either
waiting for Lantern Rite too

[tardy thunder]

No

I mean her buff is extended by hitlag like how other buffs can be

Example: Noelle getting 14s YJ buff uptime instead of 12s

[mortal sorrel]

What's considered the constellation breakpoint for Yunjin? I tempted fate on the banner and got C1, so I can have C2 after Lantern Rite

[modern blaze]

c3 for the burst levels probably? c2 is already pretty good imo

c4 and 5 are kinda meh i think
c6, the whale constellation (for now) should be pretty strong though

[mortal sorrel]

Yeah, C3 would have been nice, but I'm not gonna pull more on this banner. I would've been okay with an early Shenhe before pull 30-ish, but I don't wanna see her if I go past that

[tame tree]

oh, makes sense

[radiant wagon]

has anyone confirmed the yunjin - yoi e interaction?

[high wing]

so how exactly does yun jin dmg bonus work into the damage formula? i've heard u add it to talent multiplier of active character

[high wing]

in keqing mains discord

[radiant wagon]

noo

[high wing]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IsvKVQEc425ObfG1Ak2X8EzI0rCs6sfyBvCgfXInSVM/

courtesy of @/NZPIEFACE#8439

[high wing]

ooooo ty :D

that makes much more sense than adding it directly onto talent values lmao

value would've been way too large

[livid flume]

How much ER and crit rate should yunjin run w/ fav? currently she has 2 40 cr and 204 er

[merry crater]

what source does Rust normal atk% dmg belong to? I think I'm too pepega for this

a friend of mine was wondering about Rust and Yun Jin Q interaction

[tame tree]

damage bonus

[merry crater]

so it's a separate multiplier then

my friend was convinced Yun Jin wouldn't work well with Rust and I was like: nah I swear it's a separate multiplier

[brazen bear]

How good is Yunjin with Eula? I'm thinking Eula Raiden Yunjin Zhongli team

[ocean nacelle]

if i wanted to use dps yunjin, should i use r1 deathmatch or r5 prototype starglitter?

[rugged stream]

I’m trying diluc xingqiu Bennett and yunjin, it’s not bad, the ten second window lines up well with dilucs oprtimal combo

Not as good as VV shred of course

[remote nymph]

FIRST ROLL

AAAFLJANSNV;SNIGS

did you guys watch Sekapoko's Yunjin vid?

he got some big numbers with her for Yoi, Kokomi, Fischl and Childe

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/753808576115507312/924972451039952956/image0.gif

[compact girder]

25k kokomi autos

Was that c6?

[timid portal]

oh ur not yellow anymore

[random cloud]

Is Diluc Yunjin, Okay-ish?

[compact girder]

WHAT

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[timid portal]

[faint hornet]

Man, Yun Jin's trial is awful.

[tawny spoke]

Giga scuffed noelle

Hey atleast u can practice Yunjin counter timings

[faint hornet]

Yeah, that Noelle's waaaaaaaay weaker than mine.

And mine's not even cracked or anything.

Was doing like a third of my normal damage even with Yun Jin's buff.

[random cloud]

YUNJINS OPERA

MY HEART

[brazen bear]

Anyone tried Childe freeze team with Yunjin? Smt like Childe kazuha Yunjin and cryo

[fallow terrace]

For all its faults, MHY does great character quests and they have gotten even better over time

GI opera scene was just 👨‍🍳 💋

[civic gust]

Hellooo. Has anyone already tested yunjin with childe?

[hearty thunder]

omg reply outdated

[nova tangle]

what are the drivers you guys have tc'd for yunjin?

im seeing kazuha qiqi and zl?

[spark crystal]

I’m running kokomi, no hitlag funs

[hearty thunder]

xiao

yoi

noelle

razor (?)

idk who more

[nova tangle]

are the sheets pinned?

[hearty thunder]

idts

[nova tangle]

[solid delta]

ZL too

[nimble glade]

Hmmm
If we add yunjin to a physical keqing team
Will keqings autos start dealing better dps than her charged????

Same question for electro keqing

[signal quartz]

does c6 yunjin help diluc much?

[echo quiver]

interesting question

[nimble glade]

Unfortunately i don't own yunjin yet
Neither do i have a built keqing

But i think she will be a waaaay better Character if yunjin makes her an auto attack Character not a charged attack one

[echo quiver]

seka says ca hu tao with albedo still likely better than na hu tao with yunjin cuz albedo give em

[echo quiver]

yeah. i don't prefer doing ca with mouse

[nimble glade]

And it gets rid of her stamina issues completely

Plus physical damage bonuses are always higher than elemental ones from weapons and goblets so i think yunjin will get a lot of value

[night cliff]

Hutao NA has ICD, if you play with xq you probably can't vape all hits iirc

[nimble glade]

Also i am talking about keqing

[echo quiver]

ah i see

[night cliff]

Don't know if it will work tho

[echo quiver]

phys or electro?

[nimble glade]

Both
But probably phys will be better

[wise pagoda]

how yunjin zhongli performance?

[gilded pine]

anyone do ning yunjin gorou calc?

[spark crystal]

because of extended hitlag with yunjin Q it works nicely

[worn saffron]

https://youtu.be/qHc3cJW9pj4

Ayo any c1 ningguang yunjin users here

[spark crystal]

I ran a few tests with friends with pre release yunjin c2 jean and she was capable of hitting all hits with NA's c6 XQ

[worn saffron]

Man yunjin reviews are overwhelmingly positive

[worn saffron]

Yeah this lines up with that testing for yunjin and hu tao in sekapoko's vid

I saw 64k vape NA damage at the highest

[spark crystal]

Xq showing his dominance once again

also what do you want for ning?

I have c6 ning + yunjin

[worn saffron]

Can you test how much she buffs ning NA? Because there's already like semi-solid evidence for me for xiao and hu tao, I've only heard of ningguang yunjin combo just now

Has anyone tried eula yunjin?

[hearty thunder]

Eula and yunjin...

Idk

Better off with an electro

[spark crystal]

I don't own a level 90 ning but I con compare IIRC my lvl 70 w/o buff etc

for note I have a lvl 10 burst

[worn saffron]

Hey I was like that for hu tao/xiao yunjin until I was shut up

[hearty thunder]

Xiaojin is nice

Because it can compete

I go for that agenda too

And eula only uses 8 procs right?

[languid socket]

Casual test on my Ning went from 900 crit autos to 3400 crit at level 6 talent....but I have level 13 burst

[worn saffron]

For burst yea

But... imagine 40k eula NA

[hearty thunder]

How high is her original

[worn saffron]

Like who needs her burst if yunjin will make her physical noelle

[worn saffron]

I've seen 20k+ eula on good investment? Like SoBP/WGS/Redhorn

I think yunjin parry shield can trigger SS passive too?

[spark crystal]

going to run lvl 1 books for lazy check since meetings today was tough

[worn saffron]

Wait I mean the claymore one

[spark crystal]

[worn saffron]

Not serpent spine

[hearty thunder]

What ss

Ss is serpent spine and claymore

[worn saffron]

The claymore one I meant to say

The claymore geo one not the actual ss claymore

I mistyped

This is assuming yunjin parry shield counts as a shield

For that summit shaper to proc

[hearty thunder]

Oh

Idts

[worn saffron]

Wait...vortex vanquisher main dps yunjin....

If the shield counts

[hearty thunder]

For that I am not so sure

[worn saffron]

If no, then that's sad

[hearty thunder]

Haven't seen a claim nor have I tested it

[spark crystal]

Ning with no artifacts/levelled cata
Non buffed Na's- 64
Yunjin buffed Na's- 1402

[worn saffron]

That's additive right, but can be subjected to crit

[spark crystal]

bare in mind she has lvl 4 Na's for me

[spark crystal]

after atk before crit

same as shenhe too

I got a range down to I believ 1200 ish on the occasions

both of their buffs are huge

oof

[hearty thunder]

Solar pearl ning

[spark crystal]

for reference to the stats i used

[languid socket]

[gilded pine]

its flat before crit. so if your ning has same crit but maxed, if her NA do 8k non-buffed, she will do 9.3k buffed.

[spark crystal]

? already said this tho

[gilded pine]

👌

[compact girder]

How many yun jin stacks can shenhe consume

[plain mirage]

I dont think she can consume em all iirc

Yoimiya c6 barely can consume em all

And thats a character without hitlag

[tacit zodiac]

shenhe have wide swings, she can be a good yun jin driver in AoE situation

like Noelle do

hit 3 hilichurls 10 x each (2 combos) since easy

[compact girder]

I dont need alll

As long as above 15 i can consider its decent

[nimble glade]

Question
I know ninnguang's autos trigger yunjin buff
But does the gems of her charged attack trigger it?

Like are they considered normal attack or charged attack damage

[compact girder]

Charged, same with the C6 rocks iirc

[nimble glade]

Is there any way to confirm that

[spark crystal]

charge attacks

pretty sure kqm

has something in libary

or guide

[nimble glade]

Let me see

Big oof they are charged attacks

[compact girder]

Still good with ning

Ning gets 24 stacks off

And i think an additional 4 when c6 yun jin

[nimble glade]

But probably another support or a sup dps will give higher damage overall

Still wondering if yunjin can make keqing a better character tho
Cuz if keqing autos out damage her charged with yunjin i think it will make keqing very good

[compact girder]

Depends

Can that supp/subdps give 200k+ DPR

[nimble glade]

Who knows

[compact girder]

The thing with yun jin is

She doesnt want higher mvs

[nimble glade]

Honestly she is too flexible idk where i want to put her kekw

[compact girder]

She wants more attacks and more dmg bonus

[nimble glade]

Ya which is why i think physical characters will be the best with her

I am actually considering thoma

With her

With cresent pike

[compact girder]

NA xiao lets gooooooo

[nimble glade]

LESGOOO XIAO AUTO ATTACKING

[mint kraken]

is c6 yunjin actually good enough to convert CA carries to NA?

[compact girder]

Like who

[nimble glade]

Probably keqing

Hu tao

[mint kraken]

like for example keqing or hu tao

yeah

childe as well as iirc he is more optimal with CA?

[spark crystal]

iirc decent but not enough to warrent changing styles, it's weaker but decent enough

I can also run short test if nobody has a answer to this rq with dmg diff

[nimble glade]

Ok guys
Who between these 2 do u think is optimal than the other with yunjin
Thoma with cresent pike
Fischl with mitternacht/amos

I have one physical set and idk who to give it to

[nimble glade]

Pls do

[compact girder]

Fischl definitely

[spark crystal]

fischl, NAcancels and faster na's for bow in the game

[nimble glade]

She is C0 btw still good?

[spark crystal]

mm... I would discourage it but def better than thoma

even at c0 both

[nimble glade]

I also have keqing

But i hate spamming charged

The stamina consumption is too high

[spark crystal]

i'll be running hu tao yunjin in a bit just in another cutscene

taking off artifacts because my stats are silly whale stats

[nimble glade]

Kekw

Honestly ima just build physical keqing and auto attack with her
Even if it's not optimal even with yunjin

The charged attack spam is just not fun

[mint kraken]

yeah I mean, if the difference is not super huge, there is a benefit to NA playstyle that it would generally be easier, and requires less stamina management.

[nimble glade]

^^^

[mint kraken]

esp for hu tao if you don't have c1

[nimble glade]

Honestly hu tao will probably still be better with charged
Their multiplier is soo good

Keqing on the other hand

[spark crystal]

it's huge enough to definitively say cas are better by a land slide but yunjin makes na's not too bad if you're a casual playing but still in cg

[nimble glade]

Do u own a physical keqing or no?

Cuz i would love to have yunjin tested with that before I start putting my mora in lmao

[spark crystal]

not physical, electro.

[nimble glade]

Try out electro then

[spark crystal]

I don't need to test keqing once hu tao is done since it shall imply ca vs na difference

[mortal sorrel]

I'm also really curious how Keqing would be with Yunjin

[nimble glade]

I mean keqing has faster autos i think they will get more value off of yunjin buff

[spark crystal]

1280 CA's
1k-2k ranges with NA chaining, with no artifacts again and lvl 1 useless weapon

[nimble glade]

Ok ok but

U wrote the charged attack number wrong

Unless your keqing is on some insane steroids

[compact girder]

So Yunjin has to increase NA damage by 1280 times to be worthwhile.

[spark crystal]

this if hu tao.

[nimble glade]

[spark crystal]

is*

[nimble glade]

Point is u wrote 1280k
Which 1280 THOUSAND

[spark crystal]

ya i did lol

[nimble glade]

[spark crystal]

let me edits

Ca's range too but I just got back from some stuff but you get the general idea

[nimble glade]

[mint kraken]

scuffed testing though. if you're not giving your hu tao any power ofc the buff from yunjin will make NA worth.

[spark crystal]

Also This is w/o vapes and... all that jazz

[nimble glade]

I think the better most of hu tao's stats are the lower the value from yunjin buff will be

[spark crystal]

Yeah which is why I said prior that ca's will always win Na's wont in any scenario with any character with nior calcs

[mint kraken]

Just was curious if it was reasonably viable. I don't expect it to compete in terms of DPS, but more so if it's a viable playstyle shift.

[spark crystal]

If you really want I could slap on my homa and cracked artifacts but I find it so painful to look at numbers since everything
dies.

[mint kraken]

nah all good.

[spark crystal]

You get the general jist of how it works you're fine

it's comfy

[nimble glade]

So basically i should just go for either thoma or fischl

For my yunjin

Sadge

[spark crystal]

also you can reliably vape btw with NA's hutao with xq c6

unless I'm missing perhaps 1-2 vapes it appears that way

[nimble glade]

U guys know what's sad
Yunjins autos are soo good for her own buff and cresent pike

[timid portal]

i want yunjin

[mint kraken]

yeah. It's just there's no many attack speed buffers in the game, and yunjin so far iirc, is the only one that isn't locked to an area. So it could change whether some people want to NA or CA.

[spark crystal]

cresent pike isn't good as it's similar to her buff iirc reading

[spark crystal]

jean c2

just absorb particle

15% movement speed+atk

[nimble glade]

No
It deals damage by itself

Not like yunjin's buff where the damage is the same as the attacks damage

[mint kraken]

Ah. I thought Jean C2 was limited to her ult range. I guess I was mixing it with C4. okay nvm then lol

[spark crystal]

Ik, I believe that attack is not big enough compared to other weapons because of her buff I rememeber reading

I'll had to read on it more tho since it was little to no discussion

I can be entirely wrong

[compact girder]

Speaking of, has anyone done yun jin carry yet

[nimble glade]

Well either ways i am just saying her attack animation just seems sooo good for the weapon

[spark crystal]

No, I was about to

[nimble glade]

And her own buff

[spark crystal]

Oh yeah def

[nimble glade]

Unfortunately she can't have her own buff be useful if built physical

[spark crystal]

was going to run fischl xq some dumb cyro ig for funz

[mint kraken]

Aside from Yoimiya, who is she really good with? I'm guessing pretty much every non-Itto claymore carry. Anyone else? Seems okay with childe?

[nimble glade]

Noelle and razor

[spark crystal]

Ning and kokomi are good because no hitlag

[nimble glade]

Ning and kokomi

[spark crystal]

also just Na's generally since she extends

[nimble glade]

All "physical" dps

[spark crystal]

na carries get buff a bit longer is nice

though with childe

It should work, his e is considered normals iirc so atk speed is effected by it

one sec let me check

[nimble glade]

I think a C6 xinyan will be amazing with yunjin

A xinyan that autos not speeeen

Oh also

[radiant wagon]

iirc childe should work but its difficult to fit yun in cuz his teammates are all good

[nimble glade]

I wonder which weapon will be better for phys fischl
Mitternacht or amos
Mitternacht gives more damage bonuses that yunjin buff will go through

[spark crystal]

mmm... it looks like it works, childe already pretty fast

[mint kraken]

yeah. I mean you could run like, childe raiden yunjin bennett I think?

[spark crystal]

I don't see why not, would buff him, not raiden tho since q burst

[mint kraken]

yeah.

[spark crystal]

personally don't think i'd run that but to each their own, if it works it works.

[mint kraken]

She seems pretty flexible. Sucks I can't get C6, because I'd love to experiment with it.

[nimble glade]

Ok i finally decided
Ima go with the memes and use yunjin with physical thoma
I might need fischl later for electro teams especially yae

[spark crystal]

bunch of videos and Noir has a lot of teams with yunjin on paper. She basically opened up a lot of the casts options, and with Na's for example she triples yoi's dmg which is

[mint kraken]

yeah. I am going to be getting yoi on rerun because I'm excited to try yoijin.

hopefully yunjin on a banner I want to pull on so I can get some cons.

[spark crystal]

I wish you luck friend

If you want something specific and not scuffed+ lazy i'll drag my ass in abyss rather than using OW

hopefully it helps tho

[mint kraken]

Nah. It's late here, so I can't even really think of anything atm. thanks for testing though.

[spark crystal]

no problem I'll double check it later properly anyhow since I personally want to see with my stats Na vs CA

[mortal sorrel]

Is it possible Yunjin + Keqing will be more viable than Hu Tao? Cause the former has faster attack strings and a multi-hit, and the latter gets most of her power from a raw stat boost that doesn't affect Yunjin's bonus damage

I'm also wondering if choice of weapon and artifact set might factor in cause any form of dmg% boost applies to Yunjin's bonus damage and if that might make it at least viable to play NA Keqing

[analog belfry]

im using prototype starglitter on yunjin is that fine

[hollow cosmos]

is there still no math for NA xiao?

[tardy thunder]

Her c6 only activates during CA animation

Can’t get it on NAs

[tardy thunder]

I’m still trying to figure out what team to calculate for it

[tardy thunder]

Yes

[nimble glade]

Ya ik

I just meant

U have the attack speed boost constellation on xinyan

[compact karma]

have yunjin's constellation power lvls changed at all since the prerelease tc?

[tame tree]

Fav, DM or do I craft a Prototype for Yunjin?

[spark crystal]

Fav if running Er issues in your team Dm for more dmg + scaling your bonuses on her with Def%

[tame tree]

yeah, I guess i'll test when I get her

for now I only plan to run her with Yoi anyway

[spark crystal]

I run Dm 2 electro with her with 188% er and still run into some issues

With ult

[tame tree]

in a Yoi comp, probably with Bennett + Kazuha/ZL
I guess I would need a bit of ER right?

[tame tree]

ER sands?

[spark crystal]

Def def def

[tame tree]

damn, thats a lot of ER subs

[spark crystal]

Yeah it’s kind of husk farming blessed

[tame tree]

I still havent started farming husk

[spark crystal]

still haven’t farmed a proper set for my Fischl

But yeah probably since zl isn’t a battery

[tame tree]

i'm gonna start farming Husk after I get my Childe's Harp that I just got to 90

[timid portal]

she has er ascension so its not as hard as you think

[spark crystal]

Oh yeah I forget about that stat for ascend

[tame tree]

oh yeah, forgot about that
but its still what? around 10% per piece?

okay, its not that hard actually

[timid portal]

[spark crystal]

We forgor

[tame tree]

and its not like you want any other stat anyway

[timid portal]

unless u want to proc favo

[tame tree]

so I guess 200% its "achieavable"

yeah, i'm gonna see when I get her

when its the free 4* event?

[timid portal]

2nd half of this update

[spark crystal]

[tame tree]

dude...

at least I'll have time to farm Husk I guess

[spark crystal]

The time you’re finished I’ll have my copiumjin physical build done

[tame tree]

btw, what is a copium build than Yunjin enables?

wait, I guess I can build Phys ZL right?

[spark crystal]

Yes

[tame tree]

or Phys Fischl

[spark crystal]

I did physical Fischl and it’s super fun

[tame tree]

its a shame this weapon its worse than Rust or Harp tho

[spark crystal]

Give crit now to me mihoyo so I can run it ffs

Wtf has Mitch

[tame tree]

wdym?

I wished for Redhorn remember?

[spark crystal]

I don’t have it yet I want it for the drip

Also yeah I remember

But I’ve had gacha where fail to get other 4*

Weapon banner never change

[tame tree]

at least I got one of those

[spark crystal]

Too bad nobody actually uses it

Unless?

[tame tree]

wdym nobody uses?

[spark crystal]

Oh ya melt yunjin pretty nice too

[tame tree]

isnt Bennett third BiS? just behind Mistsplitter and Aquilla?

[spark crystal]

Yeah that’s why said unless because last tike I checked I didn’t hear much talk about it

[spark crystal]

Okay this is probably why I ignored it since I own both of these weapons

[tame tree]

melt Yunjin?

[tame tree]

[spark crystal]

Chongyun c6 bennett not c6 then kazoo/succ

Noir team idea

Think yunjin mains tested too

[tame tree]

[timid portal]

i want yunjin

[tardy thunder]

Has it been tested yet?

[tardy thunder]

wait this weapon might be rlly good for Physchl Yunjin

Build for Physchl while still getting some damage bonus for Oz

[tame tree]

Wasnt already calced that its worst than Rust and Harp?