HSR Trash Can

[frozen lintel]

Like whats the point of swapping with a "not real" kafka if they know the xianzhou arent gonna do anything to them

esp since they arent outright enemies to the xianzhou

[maiden escarp]

[frozen lintel]

Unless the real kafka knows more about the future, but then the decoy knows everything + memories kafka has but just slightly less of the future telling stuff? Also what would the point of the whole "oh he doesnt tell me the whole future so ppl cant see it yet" plot point be

unless its an entirely red herring

But then why would kafka not know where the stellaron is exactly when at first on the ship if she does know everything abt the future already

[nimble condor]

They don't want them to know it's not her

But it's probably her

[frozen lintel]

wdym

[nimble condor]

She tells us

Whatever kafka doesn't know is because Elio didn't tell her

Kafka only knows what she needs to know to execute the Misson and what Elio wants them to learn during the interrogation

Nothing more nothing less

[frozen lintel]

Yeah i get that

which implies her "decoy" during interrogation isnt there because any info elio told the "real" kafka they captured

[nimble condor]

If it is a fake kafka which I doubt

Then she doesnt know she's fake

[frozen lintel]

I dont think it's fake

if its like a cyborg i think the xianzhou would know

and they would establish that point

but they didnt

and i dont think its an entirely biological "copy" made to swap with her

Unless its like dottore with a bunch of clones with different memories and experiences

Idk the logic is just not fitting there

[nimble condor]

I still bet its just contacts

It would be very kafka imo to have coloured contacts

And like this is space

There's all kinds of weird tech

So weird contacts ain't too hard to do

[frozen lintel]

Yeah either that and/or her eyes turn into blurry when shes using her powers idk

Imo its also a metaphor for her being "honest" with the MC when u confront her

[nimble condor]

https://vxtwitter.com/ryokukablog/status/1653991869330890753

[frozen lintel]

versus her typical standoffish nature

[nimble condor]

"me my girlfriend and her trashcan"

[gray fractal]

hologram would be way too obvious?

[gray fractal]

it doesn't make sense for MHY to go through this effort to make it just "different looks"

lol, it reminds me of our Genshin architecture art squabbles during first weeks. Where we discussed whether they just reuse their assets or actually mean something by using the same type of architecture, lol.

jeez, those were heated for no reason lol, fun times

[nimble condor]

Well this case its a character that's extremely important to the story

I don't think hoyo would change her model if they didn't have a reason

Also on the hologram talk

Why can no scify setting do lifelike hologram

They are always blue and have static

You can make holograms appear anywhere but can't have good signal or color

[frozen lintel]

Yeah no that’s fair

I just think they going through too much trouble to just swap Kafka with some random copy that somehow knows and acts just like the Kafka we know so far

[gray fractal]

Well, there are a lot of scifi settings using complete holograms for obvious reasons. Holograms also use the distortion pattern for obvious reasons. Like it gives more high tech feel to the technology. Complete holo is just too plain, not visually satisfying

[nimble condor]

Ok but

Literally everyone here as said they don't believe it's a fake kafka

[frozen lintel]

I just think hoyo did it to also symbolize her being truthful and sincere as she isn’t wearing makeup

[nimble condor]

So why does the fake kafka keep being brought up to the conversation

[frozen lintel]

I brought it up cuz I saw the lipstick lol

I was like “oh ok so this is probably what Kafka looks like without makeup”

[gray fractal]

I brought it up because I don't think it's the same Kafka. The level of distinction is too specific. Not too obvious, but not too hidden

[frozen lintel]

So u don’t think it’s her without makeup?

[gray fractal]

Personally, I think Kafka with opaque eyes might be Kafka from the future. Or from a different timeline

[frozen lintel]

Or do u think the clone just inherently doesn’t have makeup

[gray fractal]

no. That's like the strangest thing to make imo. Unless it was specifically made to make Kafka more interesting, then I'll buy it.

[frozen lintel]

Wait so whats ur theory on why she swapped

[gray fractal]

MHY uses differences in visuals for specific purposes. Usually, these purposes work for the story

So I give it better probability, that this difference has some implications in the story

[frozen lintel]

I thought her eyes turned opaque when she’s using her powers

Sometimes I don’t think they have to always be story relevant

[gray fractal]

Obviously, the probability of it being just an interesting visual move for the sake of chara design is non zero, but I give it less probability

[frozen lintel]

For example, all the archons have glowing hair whenever they use their power

Yet that’s not necessarily relevant to the story in any way

Well to the relevant genshin plot

[gray fractal]

no, she had these eyes through the whole prologue part

[frozen lintel]

Yeah maybe she was using powers throughout the prologue

Idk

[gray fractal]

it is relevant in the way that this kind of effect belongs only to archons

[frozen lintel]

I mean my biggest question is, if they are different, why swap right before interrogation

[frozen lintel]

Yeah but it’s not important to the actual plot

Imo it seems more of a neat detail exclusive to archons

[gray fractal]

I didn't say anything about the plot. But it is important to the storytelling, because now if we see someone with this kind of effect we will guess that this person might be an archon

on the other hand, we can also guess, that there are no secret archons among existing characters because of this too

[frozen lintel]

I agree with that, but that’s why I don’t think the fact that her eyes are different will be 100% relevant to the current xianzhou plot

Like maybe it’s a neat detail that certain characters might have glowy opaque eyes in the future but Idk

[gray fractal]

well, I didn't say it is absolutely relevant to the current plot. I said that it is a meaningful distinction

[frozen lintel]

Eh we will probably get confirmation next update at the conclusion of the arc

If she has her opaque eyes back if we see her again, im more going to believe the Kafka at the interrogation = same one before capture and after escape

Assuming we see her at the end

[gray fractal]

maybe longer. If these two Kafkas are from different timelines, you wouldn't get confirmation until 2-3 years have passed

[frozen lintel]

Mmm I think we’d get something soon ||since I heard she coming next patch||

Not sure tho

^not sure if that’s leaks

But I know she’s from the cbt and was playable, so imma assume she’s gonna come out very soon

Along with blade and loucha and wtv

[gray fractal]

I don't see why this is a confirmation. They still could be different subjects for multiple reasons. Like a copycat Kafka being used to cover real Kafka doing some stuff. Like security would be less vigilant if they "already caught Kafka".

I also think that "kafka with opaque eyes means she is using some powers" is a possibility.

like there was an old trope where people being in the alternative reality (or reality augmented by specific toxins) had dilated pupils or unfocused eyes

[frozen lintel]

Oh nah I mean like they recognize us and mention them being at the interrogation

[frozen lintel]

Doesn’t she have the mind controlling ability

[gray fractal]

dunno

might be, since she is a spider. So that usually associates with manipulative type of person

[gray fractal]

I think she said something that stellaron wasn't in its physical form or something. Basically, it wasn't a location in space

[maiden escarp]

ITS FUCKING PIKACHU

[rocky mica]

Blade, jingyuan and loucha aren’t playable yet right?

[narrow fulcrum]

They aren't

[wraith token]

not yet, but they will be

[maiden escarp]

I JUST BEAT A BOSS AND IT CRASHED AS SOON AS I KILLED IT

NOOOO

YOUR KIDDING ME

[wraith token]

RIP

[maiden escarp]

Dumbass game

I literally had to stretch my braincells to do it too

[wraith token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-x7vGOdm9M

bruh

[narrow fulcrum]

Got this after fighting the doomsday beast again

[wraith token]

luocha = void archives (real)

[nimble condor]

He's sus af

You can't use a ult that looks like the Otto cinematic

Carry around a coffin

And not be sus af

[wraith token]

sussy also with sushang

[nimble condor]

I haven't finished the quest are you taking about how he says he doesn't know the person inside the coffin?

[daring raft]

Rukkhadevata+Ghostfreak

equals

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/902599132609413121/1104155705751113799/Aeon_Yaoshi.webp

[frozen lintel]

fr

She reminds me of indian deities

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasudhara

Literally the god of "abundance" huh

[daring raft]

Space India here we come

[rocky mica]

Do we know how often we’ll get new planets?

Like after how many versions

There’s a blank hole atm indicating the new planet

Lets see what it turns out to be

[vivid moon]

I hope it's a black hole

[nimble condor]

Inb4 it really is IX

[vivid moon]

IX?

[nimble condor]

The aeon of nihility

The black hole with eyes

[frozen lintel]

Random question but

how the hell is belobog the only "livable" area that isn't completely frozen over

yet its close to the stellaron

[nimble condor]

Qlipoths power

[frozen lintel]

hm

fair enough

[nimble condor]

The preservation

I believe the arquitects will for preservation caught qlipoths eye

Like how we did

And that's why belobog is protected by the preservation

[frozen lintel]

yeah that makes sense

[nimble condor]

Or at least that's in line with what gepard tells us

Only thing I don't understand

Is sampos monologue at the end

Was it just him being a clown

Or is he a stelaron hunter

Or is he with someone else

[frozen lintel]

we will prob get more info later

[nimble condor]

I mean

Either way he's a clown regardless

[frozen lintel]

He does sound like

hes getting orders from someone else

Sounds like he was an agent that arrived at Jarilo earlier

and here his boss is telling him if he wants to go to "Epsilon" for a job i g

[nimble condor]

Probably one of our destinations

[frozen lintel]

Idk if hes part of the stellaron hunters tho

hard to say

might be another faction

[nimble condor]

He's part of the clown hunters

They aren't hunters of clowns

[frozen lintel]

LOL fr

[nimble condor]

They are clowns that are hunters

[frozen lintel]

Wait lowkey he might be

Cuz remember kafka wanted the MC to collect all the paths

[nimble condor]

I'm literally basing this of the fact that he is a nihility character but IX bs incoming

[frozen lintel]

Itd be weird if MC got it "conviniently"

wait but acc

They were going to belobog anyways

hmm

[frozen lintel]

i aint even worrying abt this mf cuz i swear hoyo gonna wait a year before mentioning anything

[nimble condor]

He probably has lore in the simulated universe

[frozen lintel]

Oh yeah

[gray fractal]

yes. I think he reported to Kafka (or someone from stellaron hunters was on the screen, I don't quite remember)

[nimble condor]

He didn't say who he was taking to

Might not have been the stelaron hunters

[gray fractal]

there was a screen picture, or reflection

of who he was talking to

[nimble condor]

Wasn't it his reflection on the turned off TV

[frozen lintel]

Nah the tv static was on

i could hear it

it definetly wasnt off

Okay just read the nihility entries

nothing too major but

Basically its the most passive aeon cuz it literally thinks everything is pointless so it just "vibes" in space

[nimble condor]

Nah that shits off

Man's just hallucinating

[frozen lintel]

i thought its just intentionally blurred like that so we cant see who hes talkin to

like in an anime when the screen is all blue

[nimble condor]

Idk I'd think they would use a better way to not show

Plus we don't hear anything

[frozen lintel]

Some destruction path ppl wanted to try to kill an aeon and picked Nihility cuz he seemed like an easy target and got the help of another aeon

[nimble condor]

So it's either sampo going insane

[frozen lintel]

Nobody ever heard of the ppl again

[nimble condor]

Or man's communicating through some weird methods

[frozen lintel]

The elation aeon Aha

[nimble condor]

I mean

[frozen lintel]

Cuz he thought "oh yeah this would be funny"

[nimble condor]

It's a sentient black hole

[frozen lintel]

ong

[nimble condor]

Well I think it's sentient

Anyway

I sleep

Nighty

[frozen lintel]

gn

Dude aha's a menace

This aeon snuck onto the astral express as a human and then as a prank he blew up half the train and an entire planet

And then this mf gave a worm infinite intelligence and a conciousness just to see if it could get accepted into the Genius Society HAHAHAHAHA

he made his emantor a WORM

[gray fractal]

this is on different settings. Though I admit, I was hallucinating. I remember I was 100% sure he was reporting to Stellaron Hunters, but now I don't know why

usually I consider much more options, but here it was immediately obvious to me. Damn. I don't know whether I should review my possibilities here

[vivid moon]

Oooh okay, haven't seen that yet

[gray fractal]

Oh, I remembered now. It's because it was Kafka's voice that was talking to us before Sampo's interlude, basically her literal voiceline from the time she programmed the MC. So I guess that's why I made that connection

Ok, I even rewatched the prologue part

It seems like she speaks with the voice of Elio to us

[vivid moon]

I have no idea what this entire conversation was about but I'm sure I'll find out in the next couple of months when I forget about this whole thing and actually get to that part of the game

[gray fractal]

I think it's the same thing as the Bioshock ending. Basically, she used a command word to imbue MC's memory with artificial block and create a confused state of mind. So, basically, whatever we experience concerning Kafka is sus, because she already changed our perception of her

[gray fractal]

or you mean Sampo's monologue?

[vivid moon]

In the game, I am currently at the part where you enter the star rail for the first time and meet pompom

So literally 0 of this conversation makes any sense to me

LMAO

[lament bramble]

Soooo you've played about 40 minutes?

[vivid moon]

Technically 6 hours

But yes

I was very immersed

I did all the side quests and alternative things I could find on the space station before going with Kafka onto the express

too bad I spent like 3 hours on day 1 looking at the environment

i also found a talking plant that gave me a trophy

If I can stretch genshin's og quest playtime from 1.0 into a 4 month endeavor, you can bet your ass I'll be taking my sweet time staring at every little thing in star rail before getting to the story LMAO

[lament bramble]

Fun trivia: If you do the right dialogue and talk to the right people, you can tell Himeko you want to stay on the space station and it does a game over credits narration

[vivid moon]

I tried to tell her no, since you mentioned that, when I got to the express but it didn't do anything and I thought you were pranking me

So I had to use specific dialogue with specific npc's?

[lament bramble]

Yee

[vivid moon]

I found the magic teleporting toilet, does that count

[lament bramble]

You have to get approval from Herta and Asta first

[vivid moon]

[lament bramble]

This video shows the credits first, then it shows how to get the option at the end:
https://youtu.be/5kkM4sKUgd0

[vivid moon]

Well I guess I got it from herta

But not asta

[lament bramble]

Yee

You gotta talk to Asta after Herta

You tell her "Herta said I can stay" and she'll be like "Oh, yeah, that's fine with me"

Then you can tell Himeko "Nah, Herta and Asta said I could stay. Thanks for the offer tho"

[vivid moon]

Didn't realize I needed to go back to asta

Didn't think of it for some reason

LOL

I just went off trying to find the key cards to open the locked door in that one hallway that needed the triple pass

And spent like an hour trying to find "the researcher with the fabulous hair kneeling down to reach for something"

And focused too hard on the "kneeling down" part

I was like

"NOBODY IS KNEELING DOWN?? WHERE IS HE??'

And didn't notice his name, in the game, is literally something like "researcher with fabulous hair"

Standing 5 feet away from the shop guy I kept visiting to try and buy MC's eons from

[wraith token]

its genshin all over again

with the shitty 5s artifact farming

it doesnt give worthy main stat

"oh you're farming this set? ok i give you the other set"

[narrow fulcrum]

There's another stellaron hunter that was mentioned alongside blade and silver wolf with their name being sam

[frozen lintel]

At least u can convert 20 artifacts

Into a custom

Also ewwww imagine using ur fuel to get to 40 early

[wraith token]

nah you can use your fuel for 5 star artifacts in simulated universe

its the same rate as how the level 40 relic farming drops

so its not an "ewww"

[pulsar junco]

I finally beat Cocolia

well

more like I finally got there

[frozen lintel]

Fair fair

Tho I’m tryna save some just for the other artifacts

Like ok world 3 and 4

Don’t mind waiting a day

Need the money anyways lol

[wraith token]

bruh SU3 Difficulty 2 had a very tanky Gepard

[daring raft]

https://www.hoyolab.com/article/18289607/?lang=en-us&utm_source=sns&utm_medium=link

everyone (except obv the little children characters) is bare in these Eidolon sprites. Prolly that whole ‘inner spiritual’ aesthetic and all. It’s nice to see.

this one has to be my fav though

the fella can’t be separated from his sword even in the depths of his soul

[wraith token]

time to build abyss dual teams

[daring raft]

from the looks of it, Star Rail characters share the same character model ‘skeletons’ as Genshin’s for the most part?

[narrow fulcrum]

While farming for preservation trace materials i got three achievements in a row

[rocky mica]

Is there any guess how often we’ll get new worlds ? Like once every how many versions?

[wraith token]

probably until many can finish each world's difficulty levels

world 6 difficulty 4 requires EL6 / TL65

[rocky mica]

Ohhhh

I just read on wiki

This xianzhou luofu is one of the 6 ships of this alliance

Imagine one alliance having 6 ships or worlds as per the game building

And there are like 14 alliances😭

They gonna add a lot of worlds

[nimble condor]

we aren't going to all 6 of the Luofu's ships

[lament bramble]

No new planets. Just 6 years of Luofu

Luofu Express lets gooooo

[nimble condor]

i know they like china

but that's to much china

[daring raft]

space china hours

[narrow fulcrum]

Yeet

[lament bramble]

https://youtu.be/Fjnd7JhWAgw

[nimble condor]

blaming blade for everything

what did he even do wrong

kill a bunch of people?

[frozen lintel]

Sushang is unreal

Hunt + sushang + bronya in SU

is ridiculous

Difficulty 2 gepard couldnt attack ONCE LOL

[nimble condor]

i wish i had sushang

hopefully i can get her on the general's banner

[maiden escarp]

Regular gepard was kicking my ass in the story, just barely won the second fight

[analog pollen]

anyone have any lore on the whole ten lord commission hall of karma soul storage dealio? I just finished the teacher and a friend questline and that lore drop raised a lot of questions for me

[frozen lintel]

we wont get more until the new locations are out i think

itll be a while

[lament bramble]

https://youtu.be/F_NJovUIrOc

[frozen lintel]

art is so damn cool

[analog pollen]

so sushang is from the fangshu

[frozen lintel]

https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Xianzhou_Yaoqing

yeh

[analog pollen]

wait wut

but the fangshu was the one with a moon in the trailer, not yaoqing

[analog pollen]

does anyone either have screenshots or remember where in the storyline it was explained why immortality is a curse/bad

I vaguely remember the dialogue but wanted to reread it

(I really hope they add a quest text archive like in genshin in a future update,idk how they didnt think about it from the start when this story is so lore heavy)

[lament bramble]

0:55 here

[analog pollen]

meant the one from the game

the one in the trailer is not the full story

trailer makes it sound like the main issue was them being mara struck

but iirc that was more of a side thing

the main problem that drove them to ruin was over population and lack of resources

https://youtu.be/IDDye9LzDMo?t=6080

here

(altho I remember another dialogue saying similar things but can't find that one)

[rocky mica]

Haha just when u predicted this

They announced the 7 ships

[rocky mica]

Also , why is there kokomi’s namecard at 2:33 ?

[wraith token]

autofarm life

[narrow fulcrum]

I looked at aha again and just realized that there's a humanoid shape behind the masks

[wraith token]

yeah you might've saw that on twitter

[pulsar junco]

i haven't noticed that before

[vivid moon]

Yeah there is so much going on with that dude that I think I just stared at him for ten minutes before continuing the simulation lmao

Like I have no idea what's going on with this lad but it's both fun and creepy

[clear parrot]

i think that's the whole point

it's a good design

[vivid moon]

Yeeee

I know

It's meant to be like the embodiment of chaos

So I understand why aha is designed like that

But I still have no idea what's going on

And how the hell is all of that attached to its body

[nimble condor]

Ye it's mentioned that it has faces on it's sholders

[daring raft]

MHY: “mission complete”

[vivid moon]

Lol

[vivid moon]

God this game has so many references

[nimble condor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz0tTmzw8Rc

[clear parrot]

Haha

[frozen lintel]

Aha is literally the ultimate menace i swear

i mentioned it earlier but look at his entries from SU

side note i hope they add more blessings and curios

would be cool

they have a rlly good design rn

[vivid moon]

Oh I haven't read his entries outside of the intro one which was... Interesting

[vivid moon]

Natasha 😭

[maiden escarp]

Clearly based opinions here

[nimble condor]

me trying to do this with Arlan but natasha dies every time

and then i can keep arlan alive

[daring raft]

[frozen lintel]

hmmmmmmmmm

[maiden escarp]

Kirara expy already

[lament bramble]

Honestly, wouldnt even be mad if they do. Qingque's EN VA is hilarious

[maiden escarp]

Please let her say a bunch of cat puns

[daring raft]

go even further. Have Kirara play mahjong someday.

[maiden escarp]

is klara good

[vivid moon]

probably

[pulsar junco]

clara just standing there while Svarog beats the shit out of the opponents

i think that is quite good

[maiden escarp]

Time to beat the shit out of cocolia with svarog then

[pulsar junco]

their fight animations are adorable

[maiden escarp]

Actually wait

Geo is it better to bring two fire units to cocolia or just have himeko on breaking shield duty

Cause I have nothing else to break it

[pulsar junco]

ooof, i'm not sure, who do you have Himeko and Asta?

I have only Asta as a fire unit so I brought her

[lament bramble]

yall are bringing fire units?

[analog pollen]

asta was more than enough for me

[maiden escarp]

Only himeko and asta lol

Wait

I couldn't even bring Clara

Himeko it is then

[analog pollen]

is this for sim world or story fight?

[maiden escarp]

Story

[analog pollen]

ah

story fights are easy to bring w/e

[maiden escarp]

[analog pollen]

as long as youre leveled up it doesnt really matter

[maiden escarp]

Yeah I'm level 40

I think I'm chillin

Get it

chill in

Like cold

[analog pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-tea-drink-cute-bangs-gif-15778933

(wow even gifs dont work rip me)

[maiden escarp]

You gotta be prankster level 3 for them to work

But even so

[analog pollen]

#soon

[maiden escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027

[vivid moon]

fire mc?

[analog pollen]

hes doing that fight now

so not unlocked yet

[vivid moon]

oh rip

[maiden escarp]

This shit is shadow of the colossus

[frozen lintel]

Clara's incredibly good

Especially in long-term battles like SU

basically can solo every single world by herself

Synergizes with March too

[analog pollen]

even for abyss, theres a group of theorycrafters right now that value clara very highly

according to their calcs she has the highest damage ceiling in the game under the right conditions

[frozen lintel]

She's ridiculous

[analog pollen]

still trying to build mine, but I sunk all of my resources into my 1st team,so building team 2 rn feels extremely slow

can't wait to get to 40 so I can start using my fragile resins

[frozen lintel]

and go broke

💀

[analog pollen]

indeed

ah also weekly reset

time to grind

[frozen lintel]

finally

[analog pollen]

IS THIS QUESTLINE NOT OVER

BRO

[frozen lintel]

Its a pretty amusing one

[analog pollen]

ah wait nvm it was just the daily 5 primos thing

[frozen lintel]

LOL

[analog pollen]

soon they're gonna find out theyre a mobile game themselves

ok this is my first daily login without any new questlines

guess im truly done now

[frozen lintel]

Me last week:

😮

been dying from content drought

Waiting for jingyuan

[analog pollen]

i dont really mind the lack of content as much as I did in genshin cuz im having more fun with the end game repeatable stuff in this

just pls let me get to 40

[frozen lintel]

yeah theres more stuff to do

and also you can get relic dust at SU

[analog pollen]

fuck I forgot how good the music for the cocolia fight was

[maiden escarp]

Holy shit

The phase 2 theme

[analog pollen]

yep yep

it gave me sonic buttrock music when I first heard it

but in a good way

oh thank god they drop 2 mats now

[frozen lintel]

Yep

[lament bramble]

I like how for the weekly bosses, you can do multiple of the same one if you want

Really nice for if you want to speedrun a character

[gray fractal]

yes. Pair her with March 7th skill, for free aggro, shield and damage.

[maiden escarp]

[frozen lintel]

https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/characters/clara

^ mega useful

[maiden escarp]

[frozen lintel]

The counter attacks are insane energy charge for her to constantly cycle her ult

Plus massive damage reduction

• good soft taunt

She's basically ur dps + tank in one

[gray fractal]

Meanwhile, I'll just sit and wait for epic cinematics with Aeons having the size of planets fighting each other, and Astral Express being part of a transformer, which turns into a gun and Aeon of Hunt using it to shoot Nous, because of the forbidden knowledge and learning much gone wrong

in like 2 years

[maiden escarp]

Holy shit yeah Clara seems broken

[frozen lintel]

Also her ult and design is absolutely badass

[maiden escarp]

Im a huge svarog fan so hell yeah

[analog pollen]

thats the site I was talking about earlier

check their damage calcs lol

IT GIVES YOU COINS NOW OMG

thats so helpful

[frozen lintel]

mhmmm

[analog pollen]

somehow won this while having 2 negative curio on me

and no one died either

wish there was an achievement for that

so close

idk how to get the scissors

dont even remember where I got the other pair

[daring raft]

I just realized Pela is as tall as Clara lol

[analog pollen]

they use the same base model

[daring raft]

mhmm

same as Genshin and all

[analog pollen]

even tho clara is a kid they didnt use the kid model for her

nono

it's not like genshin

[daring raft]

it's just a bit funny I noticed this

[analog pollen]

there's 4 girl models in this

hook uses the kid one

pela is just a short woman

[daring raft]

She's been noted to be a "few years older" than Hook (according to her). Early teens ain't too far off.

[daring raft]

tell me more pls. I've heard similarly for Hu Tao.

[analog pollen]

no Im serious

look at all the girls

hook is obviously a different model from clara/pela

then look at like natasha/serval vs march 7th

the legs are different

it's 4 models

[daring raft]

Heads up: I'm not doubting you. But sorry if I gave you that impression.

[analog pollen]

ah

thought you were memeing with the hu tao part

gotcha

[daring raft]

This is the part where I return with "no I'm serious" /jk

at least that I've seen discussed elsewhere

[analog pollen]

males still only have 2 models tho

altho the medium male in this game is closer to the tall model in genshin

and tall male in this is like extra-tall kek

[daring raft]

but yeah to elaborate, by "same as Genshin" I meant more when you compare the likes to Fischl, Collei, Mona, etc. Same base model like Pela and Clara.

[analog pollen]

does anyone know what you get from surprising curio

I never have 200 when I get this

I feel like thats where the scissors are

[daring raft]

Hmm idk about that. When I saw Arlan he seemed about as tall/built as Bennet, XQ, Aether, Razor, etc. I'll have to take another look later when I open it back up.

[analog pollen]

oh wait

I dont have arlan

yo

theres 3 male models

they finally did it

[daring raft]

but I will say it sucks that neither game has made use of the "kid" model for male characters yet.

[daring raft]

LMAO

Now we need one more piece

to complete the puzzle

[analog pollen]

indeed

[daring raft]

but at this rate Genshin's Pulcinella's is the only foreseeable candidate for now.

well

[analog pollen]

pulcinella is male?

[daring raft]

closest anyway

[daring raft]

he's a grand dwarf daddy

or igor

[analog pollen]

id be shocked if hes playable lmao

[daring raft]

he's essentially confirmed to be playable ever since the Trevail trailer.

[gray fractal]

she is a giant kid. Inb4 she goes berserk

[daring raft]

unless they decide to throw that trend/pattern out the window

[analog pollen]

igor is?

[daring raft]

from the persona series

[analog pollen]

ah I didnt even make that connection lol

thought thats his real name

but youre saying hes confirmed playable?

[lament bramble]

All rhe characters credited in the "Travail" trailer so far have been playable. He's credited in the trailer

[analog pollen]

wait hes the guy in the chair??

I neveer noticed lmao

[lament bramble]

Yee, its in the video description, along with the names of the other characters

Like Iansan is the Natlan character

[analog pollen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/775126309272551435.gif?v=1

[maiden escarp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/864577928201502730/1103214057907044392/4BE866D3-9537-4F63-8376-267443EF27A6.gif

[daring raft]

Man I love the Trevail trailer so much....

it's special

[analog pollen]

im surprised they didnt do something similar for star rail

did the travail trailer drop on the same date as genshins release date?

[daring raft]

Star Rail's Celestia Myriad is nice too, but it plays a somewhat different kind of role compared to Trevail yeah.

[analog pollen]

ye it's not really the same thing

[gray fractal]

MC spoilers: Lifespan: 2 – 3 years (In the wild) for raccoon

[maiden escarp]

Gepard did the wanted posters

[analog pollen]

and pela

[clear parrot]

im at like 73 pity on standard with free pulls i think?

can't wait to reach lv 35 to get that ten pull

[maiden escarp]

Yeah but that's not as adorkable as gepard

[analog pollen]

finally level 3

[maiden escarp]

I swear pom pom hates me

He blames me for everything

[analog pollen]

im surprised they programmed in so many fluff quests for him

when afaik they dont do anything

maybe theres an achievement if you get all of them

[narrow fulcrum]

I got the dominated achievement

[frozen lintel]

...........................

Look at his hp

[maiden escarp]

You can tickle him to death from that range

[frozen lintel]

He has

the friggen shile dhting

shield* thing

[maiden escarp]

Wait do you just lose the fight at that point

[analog pollen]

no the shield loses percentage every hit

just spam attacks that hit multiple times

[maiden escarp]

Ah

[frozen lintel]

yeah

[nimble condor]

Svarog was the one that gave me trouble

But I managed by using nihility to spam him with dot

And just keep chipping his hp even under the resistance bar

[daring raft]

truly a preservation tactic

[nimble condor]

I only had 2 preservation signets

But my team was arlan that was chunking like 10% of his hp and 30% of the tenacity bar every skill and then Nat march and fire mc keeping us alive

Nat died at the end but fortunately it was too late for svarog he had to many dots that chunked him to death

[frozen lintel]

forgot how i did it but it was hella easy for me

i think hes pretty squishy

his robot hand gives free resets

for hunt resonance

[narrow fulcrum]

This is the only lightcone that i don't have from herta's shop

[nimble condor]

Get it then

[clear parrot]

i have all of the memory hall light cones and i didn't buy any of them

[nimble condor]

Because they can drop from weekly bosses

[narrow fulcrum]

Level 34 today

[daring raft]

from what I’ve been told Forgotten Hall is the proper Abyss equivalent, not Sims. True?

[nimble condor]

Basically

Sim is like ER in honkai

And forgetten is abyss in genshin

Actually

We just need a proper memorial arena unless you consider the weekly bosses that

[narrow fulcrum]

I still can't get over the fact that fu xuan is so small

[gray fractal]

you shouldn't be looking at smol people like that

[narrow fulcrum]

Oh damn

[gray fractal]

that's a big responsibility

[narrow fulcrum]

[gray fractal]

oh no, please. It triggers my Genshin Nibelung's associations

[vivid moon]

Ah, right, you're supposed to curl up into a ball on the ground and stare up at them from your carapace

[gray fractal]

hey, we are proud racoons here, not some hermit crabs. We should take a smaller person into our paws, look into their eyes briefly and RUUUUUN

[vivid moon]

[daring raft]

I mean…

[lament bramble]

https://youtu.be/NX3Z6uVePDo

This is 100% canon.

[maiden escarp]

Is that the buzz spanish mode dance

[lament bramble]

yee

[lament bramble]

https://youtu.be/8-MFg_0wY4U

[frozen lintel]

NAHHH

THAT SHIT GOES HARD

[gray fractal]

And here I thought "Is she gonna be playable?"...

[vivid moon]

oh my god this nearly made me shed tears

my eyes actually welled up

at that big scene

that was so good

is this what the collab with ufotable was for??? if so then it was TOTALLY worth it oh my god

this and any future ones

the music, visuals, the quick and tight story telling, the voice actors, all of it

THAT MOMENT WHERE YOU JUST BARELY SEE PEACE IN HER EYES

GOD IT MADE ME WANT TO CRY

[vivid moon]

IKR

fuck it this is where i go to bed

leave it on a high note

goodnight

[lament bramble]

Nah, this is them collabing with Fantasier Animation again

[vivid moon]

OOOOO

[lament bramble]

same studio that did that skiing/ice skating animation for Honkai Impact 3rd

https://tenor.com/view/raiden-mei-alpine-skiing-snow-skiing-herrscher-of-thunder-honkai-impact-gif-24896107

[vivid moon]

oh i see

i'm reading the description now and see the credits

also hell, that description

[vivid moon]

also holy fuck

[daring raft]

the description seems to credit a different studio

ninja’d

[vivid moon]

"Time gallops, swift as a stallion, sudden as a lightning strike, agonizing as a blade that runs him through. And yet, it feels like everything has always been the same."

that part at the end

LMAO THIS COMMENT

A 4 minute animation for a game that isn't even a month old, we really know who mihoyo's favorite son is

[lament bramble]

Better loop of this bit:

https://i.imgur.com/tyATpHO.gifv

[daring raft]

def was in production far ahead of time yeah

[lament bramble]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9dAbEkY6Vc Full vid

[gray fractal]

wait a sec, I saw Silver Wolf there lol

[lament bramble]

yee

tis Bronya

[daring raft]

more like Haxoor Bunny, no?

[gray fractal]

Why bunny?

[daring raft]

idk

[lament bramble]

Silver Wolf's based off Haxxor Bunny Bronya, Bronya off of APHO Bronya

Both Bronya

[daring raft]

An expy to an expy

/jk

[lament bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/arc-lightbound-honkai-impact-bronya-zaychik-haxxor-bunny-gif-25736692

https://tenor.com/view/bronya-gif-24200649

It bronya

[gray fractal]

is this gif sped up?

yeah

hmm, I would say Silver Wolf looks more interesting than this Bronya

[vivid moon]

god i just had to rewatch that animation

alright now goodnight

[daring raft]

Genshin looking at Hi3 and HSR rail having “Mihoyo Anime” in their video labels before it did.

HSR isn’t even 2 weeks old yet
Genshin’s been making massive bank for 2.5+ years

[gray fractal]

HSR is only 2 weeks old, and already needs anime to retain players Genshin is 3 years old and doesn't need a stinky anime for player retention

[lament bramble]

That's certainly a take...

[daring raft]

[narrow fulcrum]

|| Jingliu is here ||

[daring raft]

all this talk and showcase on Jing’s master so early and we at Genshin still waiting for a Skirk and Varka reveal

[maiden escarp]

https://youtube.com/shorts/WqJHFunRxyA?feature=share

[rocky mica]

Yo, what did blade mean by this? :

Of five people, three must pay the prive

*price

[analog pollen]

we don't know yet

we know next to nothing about blade rn

[rocky mica]

Ohh okk

[narrow fulcrum]

Stay dead stupid deer

[maiden escarp]

What is that team comp

[narrow fulcrum]

A random one

[daring raft]

she’s getting called a Shenhe expy. Do you agree?

[analog pollen]

(I like how you're also jumping between the channels haha)

other than the white hair I dont really see the similarities

at least not from that angle

[daring raft]

yep, it’s cuz two different channel audiences ironically enough

[analog pollen]

im lurking in all 3 kek

[wraith token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VDlHQLyt7I

[nimble condor]

he aint hiding shit

[wraith token]

classic cat

[maiden escarp]

Woah guys, welt is from ANTOHER GAME

NO WAY

[frozen lintel]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wMGsnHogMtU

Nah wtf

Wtf

E0 4 star light come

[nimble condor]

the rng god

[analog pollen]

the amount of times he got frozen holy shit

[vivid moon]

The amount of times she was frozen would've aggravated me to no end 😭

[frozen lintel]

Rng game using rng character with rng luck

[vivid moon]

And having good rng

[vivid moon]

KSHXOWBGTH

That is exactly what happened 3 days after genshin released

I remember all of my friends being bored because they finished everything the game had to offer (for quests)

And were like "wow, this game is empty/boring"

[daring raft]

no wonder they burn out of stuff so quick

[analog pollen]

on the laofu there's some npcs with pointy ears. What race are they supposed to be?

[lament bramble]

The pointy ear race

[analog pollen]

so we dont know?

rip

I checked the playable xianzhou and they seem to have normal ears so maybe they're just lazy models for the dragon people?

also just noticed you can see silver wolf and blade in this

so I assume the rest are the remaining stellaron hunters

that's a lot more than I was expecting

[daring raft]

Klee’s and Alice’s kin

[gray fractal]

well, tbh, Genshin deserved it. It has a lot of MMO mechanics, so you expect some end-game loop to do

[vivid moon]

the abyss did exist

[analog pollen]

how long did it take people to full star abyss when the game started?

cuz the grind to get there in this game feels infuriatingly slow

[vivid moon]

can't remember

but the enemies were WAY less intimidating and annoying to deal with

albeit, were still annoying to people because they didn't fully understand how to build characters yet

[gray fractal]

well, most people who actually finished everything within first week were stuck either on Fatui or 8th floor, lol.

unless they whaled or got super lucky. You can bash your head against the wall only for so long

[analog pollen]

ive only just reached memory of chaos and can't even beat stage 1

and im completely out of all materials

[gray fractal]

if you weren't a whale, you could finish abyss by the end of the first month. Second month for f2ps. To full star abyss most people had to wait until Diona came out (so yeah, somewhere between 2-3 months) again, whales don't count

[analog pollen]

noted

[gray fractal]

I would say, that HSR is much more liberal than OG Abyss. At least, MC is pretty powerful. The situation with healers is as bad, as it was in Genshin. But Shielders are way more abundant. So overall, I would say, they balanced the complexity more like later abyss

[analog pollen]

im not really lacking in characters,i am extremely lacking in resources

[gray fractal]

that's a norm for gacha

[analog pollen]

unfortunately

[gray fractal]

We were completing Abyss with lvl70 talent 7-8lvl characters at best, lol

[daring raft]

two years almost lmao

it was right around when I got Itto too

[analog pollen]

great meme material

[vivid moon]

god i love the absolute itto energy that sampo is exhuming right now

[daring raft]

Yes. This so much.
Sampo is on the clown spectrum with Itto.

he’s just on the trashier end lol

[vivid moon]

He issssss

I love it

He's the funny man

Charismatic and a little flamboyant

[analog pollen]

you wat

ive never gotten this before

and ive done like 20+runs

im not sure what the interaction was but like

after freezing the boss I was doing like half his health bar per attack with seele

it was insane

[vivid moon]

Level 60 characters

[maiden escarp]

Sampo is the goat

Why did it not reply

Wtf

[analog pollen]

:proudpaimon:

just got to eq3 yesterday

(and it completely drained all my resources trying to level everything)

[analog pollen]

wish I had him

still missing sampo and arlan

[maiden escarp]

Emote fail

[analog pollen]

the emote doesnt exist

so I improvised

too lazy to look up a picture kek

[maiden escarp]

[gray fractal]

you don't need to put emotes into your message, if you have emotes in your head :ThinkAboutIt:

[maiden escarp]

[gray fractal]

I am just too used to replacing emotecodes with images in my head, because I don't use any twitch chat extensions LULW

[maiden escarp]

There's twitch chat extensions?

[analog pollen]

used to be

[maiden escarp]

[analog pollen]

if hes talking about the global emotes

i miss those

[maiden escarp]

Ooh I have a favorite global emote

🦧

Look at him

He's adorable

[gray fractal]

erm, 7TV, BetterTTV and the like?

[frozen lintel]

Wait

when was this a thing

[maiden escarp]

Since hi3 I'm pretty sure

[frozen lintel]

ah

how about the secon one

[maiden escarp]

Jake talked about it earlier I think

[frozen lintel]

cuz i dont think ive seen them use this type of animation before but idk

[maiden escarp]

Believe it was this?

Idk

[gray fractal]

Atlus should sue MHY. They stole Catherine logo lol

[frozen lintel]

fr fr

[lament bramble]

Yee, it was. miHoYo partnered with em for that

[frozen lintel]

ah

[maiden escarp]

I didn't even ping you wtf

Stop being omnipresent

[frozen lintel]

LMao

Saw a comment that said hsr is just "one piece but in space"

[gray fractal]

you ping when you reply wdym

[gray fractal]

is Luffy also a fan of trash cans?

[frozen lintel]

Close enough

heh

Hey they even both get new powers every few arcs

[gray fractal]

Hsr is just a "one piece of Genshin revenue"

[lament bramble]

!!jake

[trim ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-demon-cat-i-have-approximate-knowledge-of-many-things-wise-wisdom-gif-4593239

[maiden escarp]

Xhaocbwd

[gray fractal]

lol, this is funny

[maiden escarp]

This one is also good

[analog pollen]

he is a fan of pooping which is a type of waste if that counts

[maiden escarp]

!!monki

[trim ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/golden-monkey-snacks-gif-21114889

[frozen lintel]

If they acc make the QOL changes and put it into genshin

I think ppl would play more

[analog pollen]

how are you posting these?

[maiden escarp]

Mod privileges

[analog pollen]

damn

[maiden escarp]

[frozen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-sad-emoji-gif-22168442

Me when i dont have mod privilges

[gray fractal]

in KQM KeqBot used to follow commands of anyone. I think it still does? You could spam kittens and doggos

[maiden escarp]

Trial guards are always hiring

[narrow fulcrum]

Was farming relics for clara yesterday when i got one with imaginary damage

[gray fractal]

yeah, Clara's damage is def imaginary

[frozen lintel]

😮

for what set

forgot what works for clara

[analog pollen]

ive seen people recommend either the physical damage one or the knight armor one you get in one of the souvenir shops (forgot what it actually does lol)

[barren star]

Oh the set that reduces the Amount of HP you take on hit . It also does something else but I don't remember

[maiden escarp]

I have her running the boxing set

[narrow fulcrum]

This one

[maiden escarp]

||NAT'S DAD DIED NOOO||

[frozen lintel]

Call me crazy but

Surely it won’t be a year before we get another region right?

Hopefully they do 6 month cycles rather than 12 months per region

[clear parrot]

Eeeeh id rather have them take their time to polish things

[gray fractal]

yeah. Let them polish their Tesla cars

[clear parrot]

You can't compress time even with infinite money

[pulsar junco]

guess why he is my fave

[gray fractal]

hmm, now that I think of

LOL

Did MHY actually listen to ppl who were crying that Genshin had too many male characters on the release?

HSR has almost no male characters. MC doesn't count. Duan Heng barely count (his presence is immaterial?). Welt is ok(but he also didn't participate in the story in the first arc).
And then we have Sampo, the only male who has some presence

oh yeah. Arlan (I want to forget about him)

and that another gacha male character I haven't seen on streams

Genshin has all the best male characters, with females that barely compare (well, it's gotten better now that we have female archons). HSR is all opposite, lol

[maiden escarp]

Sampo is the goat though

Also genshin is like the first hoyo game to actually have as many dudes as it does iirc

[gray fractal]

and it does it well. The dudes are great in Genshin. I wish they made girls as well there

[maiden escarp]

Nahida is peak

[gray fractal]

Imagine having hopes for Dehya

[maiden escarp]

Also faruzan is peak

So is other Layla, I hate regular layla

[gray fractal]

yeah. I wish Faruzan wasn't packaged with Wanderer

[maiden escarp]

I don't care, she's awesome and I'll just have her in my house

[clear parrot]

A lot of female characters have good characterisation imo

By genshin standards

Genshin lore 💯
Genshin writing eeeeeh

Eeeeeeeeeeeh

[gray fractal]

that's the saddest fortune a character in Genshin could have

[maiden escarp]

Hell no

She's safe and protected

[gray fractal]

sorry, could you explain characterisation a bit. You mean personality?

[maiden escarp]

She gets to join the harem of characters staring at my bed when I sleep

Like thoma, Yelan, zhongli, kaveh, soon to be alhaitham

[gray fractal]

oh man, you are the dude who puts characters around their bed

[maiden escarp]

No I put them in the corner and make them stare

They're not like next to the bed

Meanwhile the other characters get to hang out at the bar I made for them

[clear parrot]

General lore and personality

Lots of it goes cruelly unexplored though but the ideas are there

Can you tell I'm a kokomi fan

[gray fractal]

I would agree about personality part, but the lore is mostly meh for most of them

[clear parrot]

For most of the entire cast ngl

They just pump em out too fast, that applies to dudes too

[gray fractal]

hmm, yeah. I would agree with that. I live in 2.x version it seems

I would like to say that Cyno and Al Haitham have decent lore...

[clear parrot]

What's Al haitham's lore again? The pre archon quest stuff

[gray fractal]

well, idk, that's the point. I didn't acquaint myself with characters lore after Sumeru released, for the most part. I read only Nahida's, Nilou's and Faruzan lore, because those seemed pretty interesting. I was dissappointed by Nilou unfortunately

[clear parrot]

How can you say he has decent lore then

[gray fractal]

well, it seems that three dots in the end were not really enough... I meant that, I wish I could have said that, but I can't

[clear parrot]

I genuinely don't understand what this message means I'm sorry 😭

[gray fractal]

no, I am bad at English it seems

I would have liked to say that Cyno and Al Haitham have decent lore (but I can't)...

[clear parrot]

OOH I see

Cyno has lore that's interesting but it's so hidden and unexplored because typical genshin behaviour of never exploring lore deeply enough ||ask vino about this haha||

[maiden escarp]

Wait shit

Ahem

[clear parrot]

No #・lore-basement

I was about to suggest it

[maiden escarp]

Arya you didn't see that

[clear parrot]

You outsped me

I DID SEE YOU TRYING TO INVITE LIME TO THE OFFICE

[maiden escarp]

Did not link the wrong channel

I WAS NOT

[clear parrot]

YOU WERE

[maiden escarp]

IT WAS THE FIRST THINF THERE

[clear parrot]

Bahaha

[maiden escarp]

You can't even invite people anyways

[clear parrot]

Yeah it is higher in the list

Ik you can't

[maiden escarp]

Back in my non lore team days it was the first thing to pop up

So muscle memory kicked in

[clear parrot]

Damn

I wasn't even active here in my non lore team days

[frozen lintel]

yeah but we'd prob run into the same issue as genshin

where its just a lack of content and ppl start complaining

technically the exploration + quests are shorter in HSR too

Not saying they should rush things either but i feel they can hopefully pump more content each patch at least

Since it's def prob easier without the need of making a whole open-world area and instead smaller level-sized areas

could just be me

[daring raft]

is it that major of an issue though? Or a vocal minority that’s just unusually caught up? I can’t speak so much for HSR’s case just yet, but I can’t think of that many people outside of this server’s lore basement that have even kept up with WQs, SQs, HOs, etc consistently with Genshin. (all while juggling any ongoing events/units or teams they want to invest in)
Much less overworld exploration aspects.
I think HSR should be fine with the casual moderate crowd as long as they’re consistent enough.

Worst case scenario you end is as dead in content as FGO has been a month or two ago. Not even any new banners and they had to emergency shill a spoiler waifu into a banner.

[daring raft]

yeah agree, I like gacha games as a side thing really. Moar time to enjoy other stuff.

[clear parrot]

Yeah... They aren't meant to be enjoyed all in one go a lot of the time? They're designed as mobile games so they're made to be playable in short bursts

[daring raft]

I prolly spend more time on plot/lore video content and discussions than the actual games themselves on a daily basis (which is like half an hour to an hour rarely more than an hour)

[frozen lintel]

i mean personally i dont mind too much either but like 99% of my friends stopped playing genshin cuz it got stale

[daring raft]

rip

[frozen lintel]

And i can already see some patterns already

I dont have a problem with it but at the same time i do hope they dont rip the whole content structure from genshin

[daring raft]

rip the content structure? How so?

[frozen lintel]

Copy*

like the whole 6 weeks, some mini games interspersed every once in a while

acc how often do u think we gonna get expansions for the maps, since like genshin 3.0 had like 3 region expansions right

but for HSR i think most of the locations on the "map" are gonna be unlocked in the main story aka the first two major updates

1.0 + 1.1

[daring raft]

yeah only plot/release patterns we can clearly see atm with genshin are:

order of nations
archon becomes playing a bit after debut patch
we get two weekly boses per region before the patch ends
Dainslef shows up in an interlude not long after the ‘main AQ’ section gets relatively resolved. unless you’re inazuma

[frozen lintel]

im guessing next update we'll get the last 3 locations close to the tree

but then like after that?

No more exploration?

[daring raft]

this is prolly the one of the least ‘predictable’ ones unless you have leaks at your disposal. We even have two Liyue villages we haven’t visited yet.

[daring raft]

this map being making me dizzy…

[frozen lintel]

yeahhh like genshin we have all the leaks early on for the new regions

[nimble condor]

i cannot wrap my head around this fucking ship

like

i swear it looks one way in the star map

[daring raft]

Graphic gets it

[nimble condor]

but it loks diferent here

[frozen lintel]

But as far as I know, we have leaks of like the next 30 characters and all their kits

[nimble condor]

like wtf is this ship

[frozen lintel]

but nothing about new regions

[nimble condor]

hoyo give me a fucking space view of this ship

this ship makes no fucking sense

[frozen lintel]

yeah that confused me

The ship looks nothing like the actual city

[nimble condor]

like

im assuming

[daring raft]

Hoyo:

[nimble condor]

like

this is the propulsion of the ship

but like