・theorycrafting

[patent sequoia]

Unless ur driving with nahida?

[cursive summit]

is the formula for aggravate on swirls the same as other attacks?

minus no crit

oh it seems so
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Damage#Catalyze_Damage_Bonus

[warm blaze]

Is there any Candace resources available?

[real steppe]

you can use h!candacefaq in #・tc-bot-spam

[warm blaze]

Thank you

[real steppe]

[patent sequoia]

What would be better for hyperbloom kuki, r1 iron sting or that new event weapon?

[sly flint]

#・genshin-help

[tough flare]

@lunar pebble you excited for suisei return?

[lunar pebble]

yes but I wouldnt call this the best place to talk about it

[tough flare]

oh shit wrong channel

[west spire]

Hey guys sorry i keep getting confused about this, IS hyperbloom dmg Eletro Dmg or Dendro dmg

[lunar pebble]

dendro but it doesnt apply any dendro

[west spire]

i could swear since 3.0 that it was meant to be eletro dmg idk why

So that brings me to my follow up question, as an EM raiden, in a team of Nahida Raiden Yelan Kokomi (i needs heals i keep getting hit) Raiden prefers to have an EM Goblet over anything else right

[cursive summit]

yeah

all she doing is triggering seeds off-field with her E

[west spire]

but because she triggers the dmg, and the dmg is dendro, would she benefit from a dendro goblet?

[cursive summit]

na transformative reactions don't use dmg%

[west spire]

ah so that's why

[cursive summit]

only stuff that says reaction% damage bonus affect them

they will specifically name the reaction

[west spire]

i though it was weird a reaction that uses an eletro characters but does dendro dmg that dont sound like it makes sense

but if it doens't use dmg% then it does

as it doens't truly matter which element is triggering the reaction

[cursive summit]

dendro seed reactions are like overload

aggravate is like shenhe flat damage buff

[west spire]

ye agg i knew

the seeds i wasn't too sure cause who ever uses overload

[cursive summit]

"as it doens't truly matter which element is triggering the reaction" what you mean?

[west spire]

as in

even if hyperbloom was like, made to trigger with an anemo character it doens't matter

so it's not caring about the dmg% of said element it only cares about lvl and EM

point is

EM goblet

[cursive summit]

oh

[west spire]

need to find another one still got raiden with her eletro goblet

and she's already doing 25k blooms

[cursive summit]

well anemo unit doing electro swirl is basically real electro

[west spire]

was just an example because anemo can do eletro

the example would work the same if say hyperbloom was instead with cryo and not eletro

[cursive summit]

okay cool

[west spire]

if it was cryo freeze teams would just become busted tho so i understand why hoyo didn't give them anything

[cursive summit]

yeah thats true

freeze broken for casual gaming

cyro got all the good dps's

[west spire]

Now if only Hoyo fixed Geo and Phys

[tribal violet]

hey, just asking if this looks correct? it's weird factoring in kuki skill since it's a 25s rotation and the skill has 15s cd and idk if i did this correctly

[knotty gull]

What do u guys think will be the absolute best scara team?

[devout void]

I think I figured out nice Nahida OverBurn team for AOE content:
https://youtu.be/aZ4TX1S95dg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qYRg82-veA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qYRg82-veA

[fervent knoll]

Scara, cyno, itto, xiao

[knotty gull]

Am i supposed to laugh?

[real steppe]

no trolling please

[real steppe]

also a question like this isn't appropriate for this channel, #1037315735011217418 would be better

[soft drift]

Yeah it seems right to me

C0 kuki right?

[tribal violet]

yes

[soft drift]

Actually u can see the turret uptime per burst

For kuki

18 /1.5 = 12 procs

Or just 18s duration

U can edit the number of E uses to make the duration = whatever uptime u want

18s duration means 4s downtime on top of 3s cd

depending on the rotation, say u E every 15s

U want the duration to =22s

[clever coral]

Do we know the best team for yae

[noble horizon]

Hello!

Is dori c2 considered skill or burst dmg? The "Jinni Toop"

[low shale]

neither

[halcyon locust]

none

[noble horizon]

I see. My thanks!

[native cipher]

Anyone know where u can find the pics with the dps of different teams of a char?

Forgot the name of the tcer who does them

[patent sequoia]

Anyone has a graph of diminishing returns of em for hyperbloom

[ionic tusk]

wdym by this?

[patent sequoia]

Kinda like how em has diminishing value for hu Tao after like 200 em or so

[ionic tusk]

ah like the % hyperbloom damage increase for each roll of EM ?

[patent sequoia]

Si

Also random question but y can’t I react in this channel💀

With emojis

[ionic tusk]

something like this?

[patent sequoia]

Yeah I suppose so, but damn that’s an interesting graph

U got the em values on the x axis?

[patent sequoia]

Thx

[twilit notch]

Where does the Flower of Paradise Lost set add the 150% damage to Bloom-based reactions? Additive to the EM multiplier? As in, at 900 EM the Multiplier would be ~4.96, does the Bloom set make that 6.46 or does it apply elsewhere?

[native cipher]

How much stronger is hutao double hydro anemo over the same team with diluc?

[soft drift]

It stacks up to 100% only

And yes it’s additive

~4.96 would now be 5.96

50% at base, 12.5% per stack

[twilit notch]

Oh it increases the effect by 25% of 50% now I feel stupid

Thanks

[toxic arch]

jstern?

[cursive summit]

WIP

[native cipher]

Yes thats the one lol

Im looking for dilic double hydro anemo dps compared to hutao

Since people keep putting diluc 16 tiers below hutao

[fallen jetty]

Damn nice chart. How would the yanfei nahida kazuha rotation work?

[cursive summit]

depends on the chamber but you can play it the same as Ganyu/Bennet/Nahida/Kazuha rotation in aoe

nahida EQ ganyu Q Yanfei (E)Q Kazuha Q Ganyu (E)CCCC
single target:
nahida EQ ganyu Q Kazuha E Yanfei (E)Q Kazuha Q Ganyu (E)CCCC

the only downside if that yanfei's Q has a wide radius and you don't want to wipe all the cryo

also burning applies 1u pyro in tiny radius so tightly grouped enemies will ignite each other

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OXPrE6EzJ0
I don't get good buff value on the 2nd wave but the aoe damage helps kill them

[pine ivy]

Idk where to ask so:
Would 2 piece VV and 2 piece of that +80 EM be good on venti?

[cursive summit]

na 4pvv effect also gives bonus swirl dmg

making it better than 80 EM

unless you are mono anemo/geo 4pvv is strongest 4p effect in the game

[violet fox]

no it wouldnt as 4VV is more beneficial like chrono said, #・genshin-help is the better place to ask this stuff in the future

[cursive summit]

@uneven chasm curious what's raiden's hypercarry team and how does it fair at c0 / c6 sara , with no 5* wep (catch ok)

what makes her a good hyper carry?

[primal whale]

😂😂😂

mihoyo must be drunk

what the hell is that

> made arti set that should outclass gd in bloom teams
> nerfed it to make it worse than gd

what is the point?

[still nexus]

Is this viable for nilou?

[mighty raven]

remember that you get double that effect after 4 triggers, it's still 3-5% better than GD at high EM when both are active

[primal whale]

reaction dmg bonus from 230 em is seemingly better than this

you need to have 3 characters with different element but still

[primal whale]

this set seems to be viable only for nilou

[mighty raven]

GD 4p is 150EM, not 230, both sets share the 80EM 2p

[still nexus]

I got confused on the part "the equiping character" does that mean nilou needs to be on field for that?

[mighty raven]

no

[primal whale]

230 em from gd = 165% dmg bonus
80 em = 61% dmg bonus

so new arti set is basically 141% dmg bonus

[mighty raven]

it doesn't work like that, I'll show you in a sec, just labelling the graph

[primal whale]

or 201% if 25% is just 25% not 25% of 40%

[still nexus]

Ohhh thank you for clarifying

[primal whale]

em bonus is not linear?

[mighty raven]

EM is not linear but reaction bonus is

[primal whale]

that makes sense then

[mighty raven]

this doesn't account for uptime is just so you picture the scaling

EM is EM with just a 2p, the 4p set bonus is added on top of that

[west spire]

With the new nerfs that have happened to the Bloom Artifact set, each Stack going from 50% to 40%, max stacks being 3 which means it goes from 150% to 120%, it's still broken af to bloom teams right

or do you think with this change the EM sets might be better

[primal whale]

dmg bonus from 1 em graph

[mighty raven]

I know how it all looks, I was just showing you

[primal whale]

yea i understand now

but i still dont understand what mhy is trying to do

what a reason to buff blooms?

its already broken so much you dont even need to play anything else

[mighty raven]

GD is the thing I don't understand, it's really a bad set all around

[primal whale]

it's good for aggravate carries like fischl and yae

[west spire]

GD at this point is just there for the 2p

[mighty raven]

it's terrible on Yae once you consider the uptime, you're better off going for 2/2 and you'll most likely have better subs that way

Yae just doesn't trigger reactions that frequently, so losing 1 every 8s really hurts her

[primal whale]

what the uptime

[west spire]

You can't refresh GD

[primal whale]

oh

[zealous eagle]

Its still her best option in aggravate teams, if your ping is low enough

[west spire]

So every 8seconds you need to trigger it again and the reaction that triggers it doe snot benefit from it

[mighty raven]

you lose the 4p effect for one reaction every 8s, whatever you do

[zealous eagle]

but its only like +2-4% over 2piece combos anyway

[west spire]

So 2p/2p is a small bit less EM

But has 100% uptime

and is easier to get substats

so IMO it's generally better

[torn ginkgo]

Really? the grass set is also not refreshed?

[west spire]

That one idk

But gd states that it does not refresh

[normal quartz]

who can use the new sword lmao

[cursive summit]

Oh yeah gd has that cursed proc condition

[west spire]

you mean the leaked one the umbrella?

if so seems to me like a kazuha sword

[normal quartz]

yeye

kazuha ig…

but eh

[west spire]

The Umbrella sword is what the kazuha sword shoulda been

[normal quartz]

yet another kazuha sword lmao

[west spire]

well i have no kazuha sword thats decent cause i didn't get xyphos

so im happy

[normal quartz]

ohhhh

[flat isle]

Has it been determined how the bloom reaction damage bonuses on the new artifact set is calcd?

Is it 40% + .25(40) * 4 = 80%
Or
40% + (25% * 4) = 140%?

[soft drift]

The former

[delicate scaffold]

So it isn't that strong?

[flat isle]

Thank you!

[bright swift]

who benefit more from the new free event EM sword in 3.3: kuki or kazuha?

[torn ginkgo]

Depends on how its ability work. And so anyone who needs em

[cursive summit]

it's really negible weapon imo

kazuha doesn't really benefit from dmg%. kuki can if dmg build / aggravate

biggest thing is it's single target

so aoe focused heros don't get value from it

since it lasts 15 seconds it can be used by off-field characters

kaeya in reverse melt vs single target, some off-field or on-field aggravate dps

pretty shit unless we get a ST focused sword user than can use EM

only use is if you want to save on 1 sword billet instead of crafting ironsting r1

[delicate scaffold]

It might be an AlHaitham weapon

[jolly meteor]

hello can i get help on my research paper about theorycrafting in genshin

Genshin theory crafting for my research paper

I am currently taking my International Baccalaureate Diploma and I am considering exploring genshin theory crafting as the topic of my internal assessment (research paper). The research paper is 12-20 pages long and should incorporate the following (if possible):

• algebra
• functions
• calculus
• statistics and probability

Therefore, I am asking the genshin community for help on the following:

• which aspect of theory crafting should I explore on that could be explained in 12-20 pages and also touch on the aforementioned fields of mathematics e.g. weapon and artifact optimization, team compositions
• references for calculations e.g. spreadsheets, journals and communities
• any other help you can offer would be appreciated

again, i am asking the genshin community for help because i am very passionate about maths and genshin since i have been playing this game since 1.0. i hope you guys can help me with this

[cursive summit]

expected artifact domain runs to get an expected quality of artifact

that's the neatest and math-relevant TC concept

genshin math is pretty simple it's just energy/rotations/ability durations/reactions intersecting that make it complicated enough to play

if you like probability TC the probability of elemental die in the upcoming genshin TCG

i d/k

could research the effects of energy generation / damage / energy burst cost on theortical unit strength

thing I hate about papers is that it's difficult to make something presentable in a paper AND actually a meaningful insight

[lunar pebble]

bro you wanna do genshin for your IA? LMAO thats fun
anyway, I think theres really not much in depth maths that would be appropriate for an math ia since most of it is just expected value, I suppose you could write about artifact rng? how long to grind for a certain quality and set of artifacts etc but rn I dont think thats nearly good enough
most genshin math questions would be about optimisation, such as outputting the most damage in a rotation that kinda deal

optimising cooldowns in a team to minimalise downtime could be a fun project but I dont think its enough for an entire IA

[zealous eagle]

THe only real indepth mathy stuff is either GO's optimisation algorithsm, or sim stuff for monte carlos

[tribal violet]

is C2 nahida an upgrade over any unit in raiden hyper?

[harsh spindle]

can i use venti in my cyno's team, since enemies always go away from DMC's burst range?

[clear spear]

his burst isn't that long and cyno will stay onfield for a while, but ig it could help in the first few seconds

[neat niche]

Highly unlikely, if you have c6 Sara, but it might depend on ur raiden and kazuha investment

If raiden is C2/C3 with EL kazuha will most def be the better option

Also nahida C2 def shred and raiden C2 def ignore don't stack additively, first the Def shred is applied and then raiden C2 ignores 60% of the already reduced enemy Def

Or the other way around, I'm not certain, but either way it results in less value of nahidas Def shred

[mossy gazelle]

Does healing bonus work like
Character's Heal + (Character's Heal x Healing Bonus) or nope?

[cursive summit]

outgoing and incoming healing bonus is additive

tested multiple times

if you're asking about just healing bonus, yeah

base healing * (1+healing bonus)

[mossy gazelle]

Okay thank youuu

[verbal sky]

childe, layla, bennet and xiangling could work?

[cursive summit]

international too good

childe don't need a shield

[verbal sky]

so albedo would also work? instead of layla

[cursive summit]

yeh you could

[verbal sky]

ic thx

[ivory geyser]

itto team is better with 4 full geo team or 3 geo with bennett/mona in case of C0 gorou

[chrome inlet]

what artifact set for heizou main dps one punch man meme build?

upcoming set isnt too useful on him so does he just default to smth like 2pc vv 2pc 18% atk

[chrome inlet]

actually nah ill just use 4pc vv and use him as a driver

avatar the last airbender

[vale scarab]

Speaking of the new set. It should be pretty nice on yoimiya no?

[fossil rune]

worse than shimenawa

[pine ivy]

ok so for nahida right i need like.. a team 😭

nahida, kuki and yae miko for sure but

who else should i have?

would ayato work?

[normal quartz]

depends, what kind of team do you want ig lol

just spread? or do you want hyperbloom

[split quail]

#・genshin-help please

[acoustic widget]

i have no idea with my cyno build i heard EM good for him so i just use what i got

[clear spear]

don't use skyward spine

please

[acoustic widget]

22% atk speed fun

[clear spear]

then at least change the mainstats

em-electro-crit

[acoustic widget]

i build like that because vortex spear with zhongli , kuki c4 , nahida and cyno using vortex

huge EM , huge atk boost from vortex passive

[clear spear]

what about the crit and the electro damage

[acoustic widget]

65 > 55 that is still trying to find on set crit dmg helmet and on set electro helmet

[clear spear]

fair

[pine ivy]

hyperbloom

[clear spear]

xingqiu 👀

and don't use yae with kuki in hyperbloom or you will have to build full em on both

[harsh spindle]

is a quickbloom/taser team with cyno, beidou, xinqiu and dmc viable?

[ember crescent]

Anyone knows if the new f2p sword will be good for kuki hyperbloom?

[torn ginkgo]

https://ambr.top/en/archive/weapon/11422/toukabou-shigure
This, why not.
Ability useless, if u interested this.

[north meadow]

It's basically iron sting

[finite plinth]

Is kaguyas verity any good? I have lost prayer but would kaguyas be better?

[clear spear]

for who? it depends on who you want to build

[finite plinth]

Ah I probably should have prefaced that. It's for scaramouche.

Im all good now I think, some kind people have been sending me some useful resources about scara

[clear spear]

then you're probably better off asking in #1037315735011217418 , I'm pretty sure they have a weapon comparison sheet already but I haven't checked in a while

[finite plinth]

Yeah lol, I did that as well, I think I accidentally sent this message into this chat before I realized there was a scara specific one

Still thanks anyways!

[clear spear]

happens to the best of us

[violet cargo]

Would the new bloom artifacf set be good for lumine if I'm using her with kokomi

[spice hound]

it might depend, is Nilou in the team?

[violet cargo]

No just kokomi

[spice hound]

actually, what's the full team? It depends on the elements you bring but it's unlikely that MC will trigger enough reactions

for it to be worth it

[violet cargo]

Not rly looking for anything meta in particular I just haven't built lumine and the new set looks like it might be better than dendro set idk, I just use characters I like so albedo and future scaramouche wouldn't have any relevance to bloom

[spice hound]

You'd rather farm the dendro set for her then tbh. Gilded dreams is also good for the team and is useful for reactions outside bloom.

[violet cargo]

Oh alright

[outer spoke]

Is this where to ask about whether Flower of Paradise Lost could be good on Nahida or not?

[real steppe]

#・genshin-help

[brave seal]

Do you only use rust when its r5 vs r1 skyward harp for yoimiya

[fair pewter]

R5 rust

R5 rust is very close to R1 TP

"only" use

Wait I didn't read the question correctly

[split quail]

r3 rust is a little better than skyward harp, but slingshot is a 3 star weapon choice which pulls ahead of both (rust r5 and slingshot r5 are comparable) the strength may vary slightly depending on your artifacts and team
also, this is the kind of question for #・genshin-help

[glossy monolith]

Is yoimiya's skill multiplied as other damage bonuses?

How does yunjin buff not get multiplied with it?

I mean what's the equation for yoimiya damage with yunjin buff?

[abstract phoenix]

Is the new Paradise Lost set gonna be better for bloom Nilou than 2pc TotM 2pc WT/GD?

[potent sphinx]

If you can compensate the HP loss with a better artifact I think there's no problem, Nilou will get higher damage tho

Paradise Lost is the redeemer of "Bad 4☆" cuz Kuki and Thoma are getting a huge boost after it

[cursive summit]

you'd rather put it on the EM trigger

since the 4p is replacing 2p EM (diminishing returns) with reaction% bonus

Nilou makes fewer blooms and has lower natural EM so less impactful

overall the set is a minor upgrade for seed triggers, though like farming EM/EM/EM is gonna be a pain. I wouldn't bother unless you farming the domain anyways

oh yeah Nilou would also have to ditch 20% hp for it, making it unattractive and not any different on her

[fossil rune]

see yunjin/yoimiya guide

[glossy monolith]

Ohh, so elemental skill is like increasing the talent level of NA itself just a less increase

Thank you Caxia

[glossy monolith]

Isn't it better to have nilou triple hp and another hydro/dendro full em?

Oh you said it earlier

[still nexus]

Is there a sheet for nilou with new artifact?

[obsidian flint]

I second this.

Does anyone have the math calc on how much dmg nilou can get if she were to use the new set?

[dull fjord]

Should i run er/em/em or triple em paradise on thoma + r5 cross spear?

[west spire]

If we assume the same substats is the new Bloom Set usually a better choice than 2/2 EM or 4pc GD, at what EM threshold would the new set become better?

As i assume it's a case of if you have X ammount of EM the new set is better, if you have less GD or double EM pc is better

[cosmic coyote]

do we have a TC for the upcoming Flower of Paradise Lost artifact set?

[cursive summit]

the new set sucks on nilou herself since she has to give up 2p ToTM bonus for it

which negates most or all of the benefit

usually nilou wears 2pem 2pToM, which is fairly easy to stack EM substats on

[keen apex]

what are the upcoming character banner lineup? including sus leaks?

[west spire]

You'd have more luck asking in the leak channels and not tc channels for this information

[patent sequoia]

^

@cosmic coyote

V specific case, but new set outperforms gd for kuki in hyperbloom

[oblique mural]

Does Eye of Perception works like Beidou Q? It can chain 4x into enemies, so does EoP in a 2 enemy situation get you 2hits per enemy?

[austere hill]

i think its the same as beidou yea but it can bounce up to 4 times

[austere hill]

yea and shes not generally procing blooms anyways, 4p new set is working only for the character that uses this 4 piece set like retracing bolide

[cursive summit]

She should still make a good amount with her ring and enne

You want her to be hitting dendro during all that

It's just u buffing her blooms at the cost of weakening everyone's blooms so it's kinda pointless

[nova escarp]

i just watched zajeff's video about pre-release analysis of Wanderers and got curious about the Crit%-Atk%-Crit DMG ratio. If their ratio is 1:1.5:2 respectively, how much is DMG bonus and Flat Atk if we are going to add it there?

[oblique mural]

Dmg% is same as atk%, as a goblet gives the same amount of dmg/atk

Atk flat is totally volatile because it weights more or less depending on your base attack

On 900 base attack: 42~ flat attack = 1 med roll of attack%. So it’s basically half of attack%

[snow grove]

came up in ghelp. Does yelan's mastermind state (which allows her to fire the special charge shot) snapshot in any way? Does ganyu's or tighnari's or any bow user's, for that matter?

[zealous eagle]

All regular arrows snapshot on release

almost all projectiles do

I beleive tighnari's clusterblooms snapshot on creation which is when the arrow hits

[snow grove]

tyty

[still nexus]

That's just sad

[tough flare]

arrow stats snapshot, bow passive can be changed midflight by changing weapon

[chrome inlet]

rainslasher vs favonius on razors abomination?

rainslasher gives em which is nice but idk if he needs the er more

the dmg increase passive is nice too but probably isnt adding that much dps since a huge chunk of the damage is from reactions

[grand skiff]

will bountiful cores work with the new set?

[torn ginkgo]

Rainslasher work on razor or other claymore user only if target is affected electro/hydro or electro-charged aura. This thing is not permanent, unstable, but u can still manage it. Dare

[torn ginkgo]

Ofc, bcz this core like dendro core

[chrome inlet]

bountiful cores benefit from anything and everything that benefits a dendro core/bloom

this doesnt mean hyperbloom or burgeon because those arent bloom

i was about to say abomination runs xingqiu so think there should be consistent hydro aura

forgot about dendro traveler

yeah so rainslasher passive just dont work and the only reason to run it is the em

[grand skiff]

Thank you guys

[torn ginkgo]

@chrome inlet after your comment, it became not clear at all. Just don't use rainslasher in comps with dendro char, only mono or tazer.

[chrome inlet]

yeah basically

forgot about dendro just eating the hydro aura

[dusk token]

I mean rainslasher works for the em there

[clear spear]

k!optimizer :bedge:

[lofty echo]

Genshin Optimizer

Designed to be the ultimate spread sheet killer - Genshin Optimizer (GO) will analyze your personal collection of copium artifacts and find the best combination based on how you want to play the game.

[west talon]

is the new bloom related artifact set nilou's BIS in a triple hydro nahida team? or is staying on 2hp2EM better?

im not sure what the priority for this set it tbh

[proper jetty]

Recently I have gotten a really good Lavawalker's hp% sands while pre-farming for Hu tao, and I am hoping I can include it into her build as a off-piece but I currently suffer from a severe lack in a good CW pyro cup.

Which leads to my question, Hu Tao is not short of sources of Pyro dmg%. She gets a good amount from from her own A4 ascension and 4pc CW, if we throw Kazuha and Yelan's A4 into the mix she can be looking at a very large dmg% steroid. Assuming she's using HP% sands, would that make EM cup to be in equal value as pyro dmg% cup given relative substats? Maybe im not reading enough spreadsheets or am I missing braincells today. (asking out of severe )

[torn ginkgo]

@proper jetty pyro dmg% is more important, alas, but u need get just such a goblet, at least from another set.
However, i have idea is to build my hu tao in burgeon variation.
I have a lot of cw pieces with em.
And one more thing, putting yelan to hu tao without xingqiu is bad idea. If she on c2, but needs tuning.

[clear spear]

optimizer is always the answer anyways

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/#/

[proper jetty]

I see, I am planning on running a double hydro team anyway as I am aware of Yelan's inconsistencies in her Hydro app, thanks for the reply .

[clear spear]

are there any resources on 4vermillion vs the new set on xiao?

[toxic arch]

check xiao mains

[nova escarp]

Im gonna asked about the long forgotten and discontinued(?) artifact(Glacier and Snowfield) but Im gonna ask first if there any TC about it if was released? If there is not, I want to know if it is going to ba good set nowadays.

[robust basin]

In triple hydro nahida nahida ends up having ownership of a majority of the blooms, so yea nilou should stay with 2hp 2em

[torn ginkgo]

Oh, i hear it remained in beta, early, before 1.0. so don't focus on it. even from the point of view of theory, he is completely garbage, he has nothing to do with working reactions.

[west talon]

Um I don’t think that’s right…

Although nahida does proc some blooms, the majority still lies in the hydro units (nilou-Kokomi-yelan) to proc blooms. While the damage is slightly lower, it makes up in sheer amount due to the fact that nahida applies so much dendro on field that even three hydro apps cannot keep up. instead the off field hydro triggers x2 bloom which would add up equivalent to nahida’s bloom damage anyway at 1kem (outside of burst)

Still however, in cases of AOE nahida can still proc 1/3 of blooms since targets are variable in population and distance but in most single target or boss situations it’s actually hydro procs for blooms

This is based off my personal experience with the team setup and other people’s insight from this channel

Sorry if my grammar is garbage I quite literally just woke up lol

[robust basin]

I see

Well nilou still keeps 2hp 2em bc of the teams dmg

[west talon]

I guess so lol

This new set seems suitable only for onfield nilou 2hydro2dendro

(Optimally 3 dendro once it is possible)

Though ideally , all hydros including nilou would use this set but that would be a hassle to farm and it would really be a waste of utility to grind specific builds in specific teams for specific characters that said team can ONLY use

Sad it’s a selfish buff rather than a party buff :(

But oh well, I’ll try to see if I can get some nice pieces for testing purposes while farming scara pieces kek

At least the domain isn’t useless to me this time lol

[cosmic coyote]

Does Dragonsbane Spear refinement help in increasing hyperbloom damage if Raiden is the owner of the spear and the trigger of the hyperbloom?

[cursive summit]

no

%dmg/crit% doesn't affect transformative reaction

only reaction% bonus does

[torn bobcat]

!goroufaq

[potent sphinx]

Hey guys I just got Mona! I have Skyward Atlas and the Witsid, which weapon and Artifacts should I use for her?

[clear spear]

k!mona should answer all your questions

[lofty echo]

Mona

A mysterious young astrologer who proclaims herself to be "Astrologist Mona Megistus," and who possesses abilities to match the title. Erudite, but prideful.

Here are all of KQM's resources on how to build and play Mona. Please select your desired build below. Enjoy!

[broken forge]

im thinking with the new paradise lost set, it would be good for hyperbloom kuki?

rn im using a nahida kazuha xingqiu kuki team and i feel with an em/em/em build, kuki would be absolutely cracked

[patent sequoia]

Yeah it is, but it’s only a 5% from the gd set

On top of that, kuki scales both dmg and healing from em

[broken forge]

so gd is better for kuki? also i’m thinking the new sword might be good for her too

[orchid mural]

hello! what's the best team for scaramouche?

[lunar pebble]

#1037315735011217418 , and that is a very general question thatll never get a proper answer

[orchid mural]

thank u

[west spire]

Ok so, ive seen some videos saying that the new set is also gonna be the new BiS for Heizou, how true is this, even tho i'd love to play heizou the same way Scara is meant to, ik Heizou ends up being best as a meele sucrose with decent dmg on his E, so would there really be a reason to go for the new set, wouldn't VV still remain his BiS

[west spire]

The new sword does sound like it will be great on a lot of characters, def one of the top welfare weapons in my eyes

[acoustic widget]

faruzan bennett and support build ganyu or shenhe or rosaria or diona

[orchid mural]

i was thinking abt faruzan & bennett but i don't have ganyu is mona/yelan okay?

[acoustic widget]

depend on you need free 20% crit rate from cryo contact or not

scara get free 20% crit rate when his E make a contact with cryo element

[orchid mural]

i only have ayaka but apparently she's not good with him

what abt rosaria??

[acoustic widget]

good

rosaria is fine

[orchid mural]

so faruzan, bennett and rosaria

[acoustic widget]

yeah and you better build rosaria focus on her burst dmg

to boost over all team damage

[orchid mural]

yeah i do

is layla somewhat similar to rosaria because she also shields?

[acoustic widget]

replace rosaria with diona if you face enemies that can knock scara from the air alot

oh you have layla too ?

then build layla if you want shield : full ToM

[orchid mural]

yeah layla is nice

tenacity set on layla is better than on diona

[acoustic widget]

cryo unit was there for 20% crit rate , so use whatever unit you want depend on situation

if fighting again ground mobs (can't not anti-air) use dmg focus cryo unit

if enemies have anti air power use layla

most of the time you only need layla in abyss tbh when shit get serious

[orchid mural]

yeah so overall i should use rosaria then?

[acoustic widget]

most of the time , when shit get serious swap to shielder

[orchid mural]

yess i got it tysm

[potent sphinx]

Hey guys this is my Mona so far (She's still Lvl40 so I hope to get almost 220 of ER) it is fine?

[real steppe]

#・genshin-help

[acoustic widget]

is the new bloom antifact set valueable to farm if my plan for hyperbloom team are raiden kokomi venti nahida and nilou are only "waifu collection" character type for me (meaning not i pull her not for power) ?

[soft drift]

Nope

[broken shuttle]

Quick question, is Lost Prayer on equal footing with Tulaytullah for Scara?

[fossil rune]

see wanderer FAQ

[acoustic widget]

ofcouse not but it 2nd best in term of balance between dmg buff and easy to build antifact

hell of alot easy for you to 70/200 with lost prayer than any other stuff

[rain gorge]

what is the gain on the new set over Gilded dreams? I just farmed the new set with a few moons, I end up with a total of 37 EM less on the new set compared to my old Gilded dreams (BEFORE gilded EM effect)

I added elegy buff to create a situation that might favour the new set a little more. The result was that I got a 3.4k damage increase on a Hyperbloom C2 Nahida Crit, compared to the elegy buffed Gilded proc

this is... Abysmall, its SO bad dude

i thought the damage increase was like 7%, but its not

it feels so weird, i am genuinelly confused as to why there is a literal resin trap of this magnitude in the game ._.

Im just really confused, can anyone help out here, am I missing something? what are the conditions under which the new set is more than 1 or 2% buff >_<

[rain gorge]

ok, i rearranged some artifacts to get ALLMOST the exact same EM on both sets

i can see it now

assuming u have the same EM, use elegy, maybe stack some EM cards from abyss

and then u get 10% dmg gain or thereabouts wearing new set

[rain gorge]

but brruuh, its a 10% on only the seeds, which in that team are not the only damage source

[soft drift]

Pre tc , should be accurate though

[deft nymph]

Hey guys sorry if this is the wrong place to ask but is there a reason why "The Doom Post" podcast marked as "Made for kids" and comments are turned off? just checking in case it was an accident

[north meadow]

It's to protect them from the eula simps truss

Idk

[harsh spindle]

is this a decent build for f2P?
(keep in mind he's still lvl 80, so with ascension stat it'll be 70/175.4)

[dusk token]

#・genshin-help is the place for This type of question

[iron tundra]

Can somone give me some advice on my Yae build? by this point idk if i should keep farming or i'm done with it

[hard wharf]

#・genshin-help is a more appropriate place to ask

[orchid mural]

hello! how do i run this team? venti already has the vv set and bennett has the noblesse set so what should i give to faruzan? or should i change bennett's artifacts and give faruzan the noblesse set

ignore her lvl i have 0 mora to spare rn

[strange torrent]

Maybe #1037315735011217418 would be a better place to ask?

[orchid mural]

ok tysm!

[potent sphinx]

C2 is enough worth it?

[spice hound]

better to ask in #1037315555734081588

[acoustic widget]

before faruzan c6 power exist , quite alot of lucky f2p account (for example Mtashed f2pgod account) can easily beat alot of "smaller than whale" paid account ....in term of account value . look like mihoyo tried hard to fix this issue , the more character like faruzan c6 coming the more advantage paid/heavy paid users gonna get over lucky f2p users . because the fact is luck alone may get you a five stars or two but c6 character .......is way harder to obtain via pure luck .

[frigid crescent]

It’s not that deep

[hard wharf]

not the appropriate channel for this, #・tc-lounge next time, this channel is more for exploring ingame mechanics and team comps

[plain thistle]

Can I have an FAQ on the new 4-star sword

[potent sphinx]

Hey this Ayato it's fine? His weapon is Amenoma Kageuchi

[dusk token]

Go to #・genshin-help for this type of question please

[opaque moat]

I have question. about Unit Gauge.... Rosaria Q has two instances of damage both 1U, does that = 2U ? Or does it just refresh the duration

[rugged spire]

simply refreshes

[orchid mural]

is childe's elemental skill worth it to crown?

[hard wharf]

if you like him enough, then sure, but next time please ask these kinds of questions in #・genshin-help since this channel is more for exploring ingame mechanics

[orchid mural]

oohh i see

[south oar]

Nah

[orchid mural]

LMAO love it ty

[cerulean geyser]

A few questions about burning egt
is the 1u pyro applied by triggering the reaction underlying?
how does it factor in with reactions to the burning aura? will it be simultaneously be depleted with any reactions that occur to the burning aura (such as applying electro while the burning aura persists)
can that 1u pyro react with anything while the burning aura persists?

[ionic tusk]

Burning apply 1U every 8 ticks (2s) of damage.
The Burning Aura lay on top of the Pyro Aura, means that reactions would react with the Burning Aura before the Pyro Aura, which means if the Burning Aura is gone then the Pyro Aura would start decaying.

Also apply Dendro to Burning Aura will refresh it

[zealous eagle]

No

Burning and Pyro react simultenously

Just like quicken and ednro, and freeze and cryo

In addition, Burning can't be refreshed

Applying dendro will refuel it, but it won;t be refreshed

To refresh you need to trigger burning again, but burning can't be triggered while burning is still active

[ionic tusk]

Ah I always thought it refresh it. Thanks for the clarification

Maybe refresh the duration rather than refresh the Aura itself would be the right word here?

[violet wing]

guys why do so many people keep there yelans ult talent at 9 i feel like i’m the only one who crowned her ult

[hard wharf]

#・genshin-help is a more appropriate place to ask this

[lapis whale]

What is the banner after next banner

Basically what are banners at 3.5

[upbeat junco]

ayaka shenhe eula

[sturdy jasper]

Hmm Eula Shenhe Raiden and Rosaria team 🤔 will it work

[sly flint]

a question for #・genshin-help

[dusty osprey]

Yeah, its one of eula’s higher dps teams that forgoes a healer

[brave seal]

r5 toukabou shigure vs r5 iron sting for kazuha?

[fiery igloo]

Umm
How does Emblem work with Yelan ?
Does it boost her sub dps output throughout or is it just the casting damage that is boosted

[cinder heath]

Kokomi with Hakushin Ring or TTDS on a Raiden Kazuha Sara team?

[cinder heath]

throughout

[dusk token]

Use this channel next time please
#・genshin-help

[fiery igloo]

So it’s her BiS as well ?

[pine ivy]

bennett

[glad sail]

hey I have a c5 Kaeya (Will get c6 this month) and I dont know what artifact set should I build with him. I wanna maximize the c6 cons so anyone knows what build should I build my kaeya ?

[hard wharf]

#・genshin-help is a more appropriate place to ask

[brave orchid]

Oops

wrong channel

[lapis whale]

Nc, all skipable

[cinder heath]

no

[cinder heath]

Yea unless you have enough er alr

[fiery igloo]

In the latter case Noblesse is stronger ?

[cinder heath]

no its TOTM HOD

[fiery igloo]

Hmm

[cinder heath]

you can use Noblesse but its significantly weaker than the other two iirc

[fiery igloo]

Yep it’s for supports whom you don’t spend too much time on field , just drop ult and swap

But for sub dps Yelan it’s not great is it

Maybe for increasing her Barbarrow damage

But else

[pine ivy]

ok so what's the formula for Def Reduction ik that this works =(100+Charlvl)/(((1-TotalDefshred)*(enemylvl+100))+100+Charlvl) but i want the one where it has both forms of def shred the ignore like raiden's and shred like lisa's razor nahida c2 ayaka c4

[pine ivy]

thank you @real steppe

[real steppe]

[blazing nymph]

Anyone know if nahida c2 "Within 8s of being affected by Quicken, Aggravate, Spread, DEF is decreased by 30%." is gone if quicken got cleared within the 8s?

[torn ginkgo]

Similarly, GD works, it is not refreshed. In practice, your nahida triggers quicken and spread every 2 seconds, so it doesn't matter, 1 second of idle time won't change anything.

[safe ridge]

is collei that bad of a character?

[blazing nymph]

Well it kinda matter in my burgeon team, just wanna know if my yelan get those 30% def shred

I say burgeon but it actually just hyper vape yelan in disguist

Anyway ty

[torn ginkgo]

Plz read carefull again.
And also check out this:
https://library.keqingmains.com/characters/dendro/nahida

Upd: attack that deal dendro first and trigger catalize don't receive this def shred, and quicken aura itself deal 0(zero) dmg.

[blazing nymph]

I already know this but it still lacking like no mention about what if burning clear the quicken and so on

[mystic thistle]

like is it good on her

[zealous eagle]

nO

[mystic thistle]

who uses paradise, then?

[zealous eagle]

The person who triggers the bloom uses it, however, the improvement over gd is so small youre better off not farming for it

[safe ridge]

is collei worth building

[hard wharf]

#・genshin-help please

[nova escarp]

I always wonder what if Kokomi was a Atk scaling character and still retains her negative Crit rate passive and the Q scaling(or toned down match the HP scaling she has, if that makes sense). Would she be worse than the current HP scaling?

[lofty wave]

HP scales better than ATK for numbers and % so yes

[nova escarp]

Even if we stack Atk buffs like Pyro resonance, Bennett, and etc.,? Let's assume they switched everything scaling to Atk and balanced it to do the exact same damage (and her signature weapon also changed to Atk% to match.

[novel niche]

It wouldn't really change much because Kokomi's value doesn't come from her personal damage, it comes from her Element and the way it interacts. She's Hydro which is what makes her so valuable as one of the best facilitators of freeze, and her ICD-less Bake Kurage does this as well. Bennett's ATK Buff, Pyro Res, Noblesse Oblige all of that wouldn't matter because once again her personal damage isn't really what matters. Even if her healing changed to ATK, it actually does worse.

Kokomi's low base attack, paired with the low multiplier for ATK means its impossible for an ATK Build to outheal an HP Build unless you change the heal multiplier for the ATK Build to be **SIGNIFICANTLY **higher. Heck I didn't even give the HP Build Everlasting Moonglow, I gave it one HP% Sands and 90 TTDS.

[novel niche]

Bennett's Heals at Burst Level 6 outheal ATK Kokomi, with literally just a Flower. Then Bennett's Heals with JUST A HB% Circlet are more than double of ATK Kokomi. As for damage, if ATK Kokomi was doing "the exact same damage" as regular Kokomi then that just means theyre doing the same damage and one is healing less. (the heals calc'd is a level 6, the top is wrong simply because i originally wanted to do 8 but realizeed 6 outheals too)

[pine ivy]

hi yes i wanna build fischl for a hyperbloom team but mainly just bc i rlly love fischl as a character so what artifacts are best for her?

like idk what set to use, this build sheet i use says atk, electro dmg, crit but w 2pc thundering fury 2pc 18% atk set but idk

[clear spear]

if you're going hyperbloom use triple EM mainstats

hyperbloom with an adc build is

either the new bloom set or 4pc gilded dreams

[pine ivy]

ty

[grim mica]

build her as ADC then have a triple EM anemo

[blazing nymph]

Dont ever build fischl tripple EM its cursed

She wont get much hyperbloom on her own

[patent sequoia]

Does anyone have a solid sheet that proves what's better between raiden hyperbloom and rational?

[digital heron]

How good is kokomi now

[dusk token]

Imo it's better if you ask this in #・genshin-help

[clear spear]

how valuable is an aqua refinement for yelan compared to other r2s like homa for hu tao or mistsplitter for ayaka?

[violet wing]

theres no way raiden hyperbloom is my strongest team and im only trying it out now

[pine ivy]

why

[blazing nymph]

cause she dont have hyperbloom ownership and quicken scale better if you build EDC

[pine ivy]

What does Barbara's skill scale off of? What if she had a no HP focus build, soley crit damage, crit rate, attack %, EM, and ER based, would she be viable for Hu Tao?

[pine ivy]

any one can tell how many HB Is this

[pine ivy]

this is the same but half the speed

[twin wasp]

30k hyperblooms

[mossy spruce]

how many hits does diluc's charged attack do per second
assuming no speed buffs
i wanna calculate my dps with charged attacks (dont ask why)

[potent anvil]

her E is a 100% scaling hit at level 10(!) once every 25 seconds or something
you're essentially getting no damage at all for investing into it

if you have any other options for sustain they'll probably be better, but if you just need a healer barbara can get the job done fine

[pine ivy]

Thanks, I was going to go all out lol, that saved me a lot of time

[pale carbon]

did anyone tried burgeon yanfei?

[pseudo kelp]

What cons do you have

[novel niche]

The damage increase isn't too much, value is based on your own views. Comparatively refining Aqua doesn't yield as much damage in a reactionary team as refining something like Elegy for the End, this is because you're getting Aqua's CD at base with level up. Refinements give buffs to the passive, but it's not a lot from r1-r2.

It's just not as strong as getting one of Yelan's constellations which can easily yield a 20% or more DPS increase, her cons are pretty good. Getting an extra copy of Aqua can be good as well since the weapon is strong on other characters, like Fischl especially in an Aggravate team. Aqua is also close in DPS for characters like Childe for their signatures, and can be one of the best options for someone like Ganyu in a team like Morgana.

So I don't find that single refinement very valuable, however if you have more attachment toward your Yelan your view of how valuable that refinement is may vary. A lot of people tend to say not to refine 5 star weapons until around r3 which is when it makes more drastic differences in DPS charts.

[cursive sandal]

Nilou Kokomi Nahida DMC
Should the artif sets be
Paradise-Paradise-Deepwood-Gilded?
What stats should kokomi run as bloom trigger: EM/EM/EM or HP/EM/HB?

[digital heron]

Al haitham SS tier?

[clear spear]

I see, thank you! that's exactly the kind of answer I wanted

[novel niche]

Triple EM

[chrome inlet]

hows keqing better than cyno for aggravate

the only thing i can think of is her burst being a 40 cost multi hit aoe

or some icd thing

[dusk token]

It's basically because of her not being tied to 18 second on field time which allows her and her teammates to refresh their buffs way more easily

And also have more flexibility in teams mainly being able to use sara and kazuha buff for her Full duration

[chrome inlet]

oh

[novel niche]

Fischl, and shorter rotations means that buffs won't expire as much. A lot of the times Cyno prefers Beidou to Fischl, meaning less Aggravates in exchange for AoE.

It's also an ergonomics thing. Cyno's A1 can be awkward to play around with, whereas Keqing can pretty much be used without caveat. Keqing also has more i-frames than Cyno does meaning that she has an easier time sacrificing safety for more utility, whereas Cyno wants more safety to continue (one of the reasons Beidou is preferred to Fischl, C1 Shield, Interrupt & DMG Resist). And not nearly as notable but something to consider is the energy requirements between the different teams, Keqing Aggravate requires none, Cyno Beidou does require a decent amount, going up or down depending on Fav/Enemies/Abyssal Cards/etc.

[knotty gull]

Any leaks about the 4 stars in haitham banner other than yaoyao?

[wooden belfry]

ask stuff like this in #853474886047629323

[hard wharf]

please stop making unsolicited claims like this, although if you really want to prove your point (while having a productive discussion of course) do it in #・tc-lounge . this is not the right channel for this.

[faint shore]

do any enemies have damage reduction? or is it only for us with stuff like xq and beidou

[hard wharf]

#・genshin-help is a better place to ask this.

[hard wharf]

cn is only allowed in #885691415710019584, outside of it, keep the chat in english pls

[faint shore]

Thank you 🙏

[fleet pawn]

Do zhonglis pillars interrupt quicken?

[dapper obsidian]

yall candace is better than kazuha in ayato hyper carry right ?

Candace 4 pc petra gives 75%+ dmg bonus while kazuha ,1k em only buff around 67% dmg🤔

[fleet pawn]

You forgot to count kazuha's 4pc VV shred

And his personal DMG which is insanely bigger than what Candace can output

[lunar pebble]

1)petra doesnt benefit others, only the user
2) its not 75%
3) you forgot 4vv on kazuha

[dusk token]

Main question is how thr f would even Candace Petra work

[snow grove]

amriel is assuming yunjin candace ayato I think

yunjin crystalize, candace with petra for pick up (hydro shard picked up would still benefit ayato)

but yes, I haven't seen scenarios where candace is able to raise the entire team's damage above extant ayato teams?

but what about in aoe scenarios where yunjin's buff runs out pretty quickly? 3 or more enemies at the same time being hit by ayato's E?

[potent sphinx]

Someone here uses Glided Dreams Beidou?(?

[dapper obsidian]

The first set up is bennett yunjin candace as supporters

Soo

2 nd is bennett yunjin kazuha

The 3 rd is yunjin candace kazuha

The target is lv 90 hilichurl

Im right yall candace is indeed better

[dapper obsidian]

I didnt , he only buffs 40% at 1k em and 27% is from vv on normal enemies

[dapper obsidian]

You wouldnt want to put yunjin out anyway she buff na % dmg as well as atk speed

[snow grove]

is the goal maximizing ayato's e damage or team damage?

I think you and others (including my own curiosity) may be targeting different things

[dapper obsidian]

Yea , the goal is maximizing ayato dmg , if you want morr dmg just put xingqiu or xiangling in

And you cant do any team dmg with them , you want kazuha to swirl geo or what

[potent sphinx]

Bennett with HP goblet is better than Pyro Bonus for healing?

[dusk token]

#・genshin-help is the place for this question and yes

[summer brook]

I know when I last played there were concerns with ayato/xl. Have those been cleared up or rectified? I really can imagine Benny xl ayato Kaz being a force I just haven't used.

[potent sphinx]

Finally, burgeon Thoma

[tawdry glade]

does anyone know if there's a cap to burn aoe stacking like with other aoe reactions

[zealous eagle]

it doesn't

[tawdry glade]

doesn't stack?

[zealous eagle]

Theres no cap

[tawdry glade]

sounds too broken to be true

guess the aoe is small though

[torn bobcat]

In any dendro comp that venti is in is there an argument to place dendro traveler in it instead of nahida?

I ask because the main downside to nahida is that when a new enemy wave or enemy in general spawns you have to keep pulling nahida out, however if you can keep pulling enemies into one area then traveler (or at least maybe if hydro applies to burst) could be seen as more useful or practical in terms of application as enemies will keep being pulled towards Ventis burst while it’s inside travelers burst

For example in the sumuru photo event assuming we had nahida already the amount of enemies that kept dying and spawning was honestly really fast and idk if she could keep up and even if she did travelers constant application off field could be deemed as more reliable in that case

I know that’s not the best example since enemies were made of glass. However the premise of continuous application even when new enemies spawn I don’t think is looked upon as much. Maybe because no content outside really cares about that or maybe it really is inconsequential

[tawdry glade]

dropping nahida can be valid in an aggraswirl comp since her frequent 1.5u dendro app makes it difficult to get any swirls

for burn or bloom comps thats obv less of an issue and you can easily swap back to her for new waves

[wide adder]

I think if you're killing waves in less than 10-15 secs or how long your on fielder wants to stay on field, you're already doing good

Unless we get an abyss with half a dozen waves +

[visual patio]

would lavawalker be better on klee in a mono pyro team, or should I use two pc pyro two pc atk%?

[full geyser]

deez nut

[winged hornet]

[tired spindle]

did you get 67% by adding 40% kaz a4 dmg bonus to 27% dmg increase from VV shred?

[hard wharf]

let's try to avoid random commentaries here now alright?

[full geyser]

it would be extremely painful

[hard wharf]

we have #・tc-lounge for that

[full geyser]

4u

[fossil sail]

80lvl?

[dapper obsidian]

Yea

[potent sphinx]

Still farming for other characters ahahaha

[steady beacon]

Thoughts on Ayaka skin? I have mixed feelings about it

[tired spindle]

dmg bonus is additive to other dmg bonuses (including dmg goblet) and does not get added to res shred

you cant just add 40% dmg bonus to the res shred multiplier increase and say “kazuha buffs by 67%”

[wide adder]

Lavawalker

[hard wharf]

not the right channel for this. #・tc-lounge

[tribal violet]

does this look correct? not sure of my field times and it seems like a lot of ER needed on nahida

[dapper obsidian]

Ok someone told me that some days ago too, but whatever , kazuha buff is weaker

[tired spindle]

i did quick calc and i am not getting your results, i'm getting ayato's DPR with kazuha and 4AP yunjin as 10% higher than 4ap candace and 4husk yunjin even tho kaz doesn't have full uptime on his a4 but i gave full uptime on candace's buffs which she wouldnt necessarily get in practice
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k5t6PI3vHsq4P67GL6irhJsV8FaRgFZI5cglstdcMQ0/edit#gid=1596845248
(ignore team dmg/DPS, i didn't input candace's hits)

[zealous eagle]

you are undervaluing the mjultiplicative value of that 27%. Its not 27% of 40%. Its 27% of all damage bonuses including the base 100%. In other words its 27% of 100% (base) + 46.6% (hydro goblet) +40% (Kazuha) + 35% (AP) for a total of ~60% equivalient damage bonus

this leads kazuha's effective damage bonus to be roughly 100%

It gets even more valuable if you have a weapon or artifact set that provudes damage bonus

[dapper obsidian]

No , i didnt put 27% in the caculator , i put the 4pc vv effect

[zealous eagle]

THen youve done something incorrectly

It is not reasonable for there to be such a large disparity

[dapper obsidian]

My first set up is yunjin husk candace petra and bennett nobless

[zealous eagle]

or the calculator has a mistake

[dapper obsidian]

That team yunjin petra + vv kazuha may do better than that , i didnt test that team

[dapper obsidian]

Second is yunjin husk kazuha vv and nobless bennett

[tired spindle]

btw ayato's burst also does dmg and candace NA buff doesnt buff it

my calcs assume 12 burst hits which is similar to what you'd get against ST ruin guard sized enemy

it doesnt even have kazuha a4 on it tho lol cuz it snapshots

idk your results from the calculator seem strange unless i am missing something

[bold pumice]

do we have math about alhaitham dps potential yet?

[lunar pebble]

#1050670206936166400

[glacial oasis]

Is it okay using gilded dreams for nahida? My dw so low in em..

[real steppe]

for build questions go to #・genshin-help please

[glacial oasis]

I am getting pingpong'ed sometimes 😂
Okay

[plush gyro]

Electro traveller is underrated af

[hard wharf]

care to elaborate?

[neat niche]

I wouldve deemed that true if they worked with raiden

[clear spear]

the battery that needs a battery to work

[gilded aspen]

whats the best shielder for hutao? which gives highest dmg too in double hydro?

zhongli with totm
layla c4 with freedom sworn
thoma c6 with totm

[neat niche]

C4 layla is a bit underwhelming, Id go either with zhongli or with thoma, zhongli's res shred is valuable if you dont use vv, while thoma is useful for when you do want to play vv hu tao

[gilded aspen]

got it

[sly flint]

its a #・genshin-help question btw

they can help you better there

[spring bone]

hello what is better for support kazuha vv or gd

[spring bone]

oh sorry

[potent sphinx]

Looking good? She's using the catch

[forest cloud]

p solid
I'd trade a few ER subs for crit if possible but chances are that's hard to do

[potent sphinx]

It's pretty hard xD

With her BiS is even worse I think, because we can't rely anymore of the Catch passive

[hard wharf]

next time, please ask questions like this in #・genshin-help

[forest cloud]

Can candace’s hydro infusion combined with haitham’s dendro infusion create bloom seeds from your weapon?
I’d imagine that haitham blocking other infusions would make that difficult but would the initial hydro>dendro be able to get one seed at least?

[zealous eagle]

No, if an infusion cant be overriden, reactions won't be triggered

[vague turret]

So I can't find anything about this on the internet but

To my knowledge spread and aggravate have internal cooldowns

My question is, do they share internal cooldowns?

So I can't trigger aggravate directly after spread

Or could I potentially trigger aggravate then spread then aggravate again

[pine ivy]

iirc they don't

the enemy gets quickened

any attack that applies electro or dendro

well spread/aggregate

*aggrevate

icd is dependent on the unit attacking

if you do a dendro and electro attack at the same time on an enemy

you'll get spread and aggregate respectively, no cd

[vague turret]

Really? Thanks thats exactly what I wanted to know

That's pretty neat

[pine ivy]

well tbh

nvm

[civic sail]

would Al Haithams sword be good on keqing? i feel like it would considering their kits are similar

[topaz viper]

next time for pretc questions like this go to #1050670206936166400
to answer your question, its worse than mistsplitter and pjc, but still decent bc 5* stats

[neat niche]

Iirc thats why the nahida E + raiden E nuke in overworld works

[pine ivy]

i mean why would that have icd anyway

quicken is a state

the proceeding aggrevate/spreads are separate dmg instances

if it had icd would make Keqing even more mid

[kind dawn]

is there any xiangling's sheet?

[pine ivy]

no she's mid

I'm joking please

[winged marten]

Any keqing tc? You think alhaitham sword will overpower mistsplitter?

[hard wharf]

can ask in #・genshin-help for this

[winged marten]

Thanks. I thought of asking here since weap isnt released yet

[hard wharf]

the stats have already been officially announced so can ask there and just a heads up, this channel is for more in-depth stuff so next time, can ask in #・tc-lounge or a character tc channel

[zinc nymph]

No

[agile quest]

Yooo

Now that we know 3.4 phase 1 banner, the 4 stars being Xinyan, Yunjin, and Yao Yao

[zinc nymph]

Mist is best for keqing

[agile quest]

What can expect to see on Phase 2?

[winged marten]

Ok thanks

[hard wharf]

not the right place to ask for this, you can go ahead and ask in #・tc-lounge since #853474886047629323 is still closed

[brisk rampart]

So Beacon(Deyha claymore) should be really good to BiS for a lot of claymore users now ya?

[gaunt ridge]

guys, is mitigated dmg equal to: incoming dmg * (1-dmg mitigation%), like if dehya mitigates 50% does she do: incoming dmg*0,5?

[woven frigate]

f

[delicate jolt]

33.1% CR, could be a 5 star alternative to serpent spine

[brisk rampart]

It's passive also gives a ton of damage

[quick vigil]

Yea it's a great weapon

[quick vigil]

Afaik, yes

[rotund parcel]

Anyone know where the scaler for this is? I noticed he does different more powerful light mirrors after his burst despite that not being in the Talent info but I can’t find the scaler (maybe I’m missing something or just stupid idk), I think this refers to this?

[vague turret]

Wait what exactly are you talking about

Thr basic attack instances refers to the instances of damage without any mirrors

For every mirror you add another 2 to the burst

What constellation you got

I see you have at least c3

And c2 gives you more EM when you generate mirrors

And c4 gives you more dendro damage after your Q

Assuming you have those, thats maybe it

[rotund parcel]

Nonono the attack is displayed differently visually, let me send some videos hold on

[rotund parcel]

Yeah he’s c4 but I don’t think that’s it

[vague turret]

Ok I got it

You mean dagger rain?

[rotund parcel]

Yesss I’m confused because I can’t find any indication of this anywhere

[vague turret]

Different mirror counts have different looks

1 mirror - single slash with 1 instance of damage

2 mirror - spinny shuriken with 2 instances

3 mirror - dagger rain with 3 instances

[rotund parcel]

OOHH so that happens when you have 3 at once???

[vague turret]

Try doing skill in the air and then following with a charge attack or plunge on an enemy

That instantly bring you at 3 stacks

You'll see the same dagger rain without Q

[rotund parcel]

I feel dumb thank you

[vague turret]

No worries his kit and rotations are pretty confusing at first

[pine ivy]

Any1 know the best stats for yoimiya?

[sly flint]

use h!yoimiya in #・tc-bot-spam

[vale scarab]

So much fun though

Dendro has been a blast so far

Idk what they gonna do to get me to play anything by else

[ivory turtle]

guys i need help

im trying to calculating max hp

whats the formula

ah nvm i got it

[frail minnow]

@last sun https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H570abRMn4yHy9m8P1lEzJFe-_g_YktbdEKvvHxTcrA/htmlview#

National is ~39k according to this sheet

Fischl kazuha bennet is ~47k

And yelan kazuha fischl is ~56k

Also since hyperbloom exists now I’m sure there’s way higher ranking teams out there now

Raiden yelan nahida ayato for example

[real steppe]

#・theorycrafting is a channel reserved for discussions of any in-depth topics that could lead to productive conversation and/or discoveries in the game as well as providing a space for beginners to enter and learn the space of Theorycrafting from those more experienced. This means simple questions such as (is x good/which artifact is the best/ is x worth it/help me make a team for abyss) are not allowed as there are better avenues for them such as #・genshin-help (their staff is specifically trained to help with account questions) and #・tc-lounge. The end goal is to further our understanding of the game and its characters to have a collaborative environment for TC.

[real steppe]

Here's a short pin with resources for those looking to learn Theorycrafting

KQM TCL - library with all things TC
https://library.keqingmains.com/

TCL entry on EGT - explains the ins and outs of the game's elemental system
https://library.keqingmains.com/combat-mechanics/elemental-effects/elemental-gauge-theory

Teyvat Theorycrafting Guide (WIP) - these are a series of mini guides that cover the basic mechanics of the game, a TC project being worked on at KQM.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xGhzklEMyC5wmWC4mnWPzD-hSlKONgpng_pNgMisL-M/edit

We also recommend using the k!template command in #・tc-bot-spam for access to sheet templates and tutorials on how to use them

[pastel solstice]

[rocky bronze]

[tough flare]

ok i want to min max nahida jump height

[amber olive]

NZ are you trying to make me cry?

[unreal bobcat]

Hi, would you mind recommend me yt channels that make tc like zajef (if there are any)?

[kind dawn]

y'all, if i were to make a team of hu tao double hydro
hu tao=4crimson
xq=4emblem
yelan=4no
zhongli=4tenacity

does yelan equipping 4no make hu tao's dmg higher? does the dmg buff from tenacity and 4no can be stackable?

[sly flint]

they are stackable yes but ur better off putting emblem on yelan as atk% buff isnt as effective with hutao's relatively low base atk, the damage you gain from putting emblem on yelan will likely outweigh the buff (I say likely cuz I havent calced it but im pretty sure XD)

[kind dawn]

i see

i heard equipping zhongli with 4 instructor buff the dmg too. is that true?

[topaz viper]

if you're going to use 4no use it on xingqiu, not yelan

[kind dawn]

why tho? genuinely asking, in my mind they're like... the same person and have the same kit

[topaz viper]

when specifically paired together yelan does more damage than xingqiu

[kind dawn]

i didn't know that

[topaz viper]

yes, but it doesn't trigger off-field so the uptime is poor compared to tenacity

[topaz viper]

check out the gcsim simulations. you can copy the code under "Config" and then tinker around with artifact sets and sets
https://db.gcsim.app/db/hutao/hutao-xingqiu-yelan-zhongli

[kind dawn]

is there like a video on this? i've copied the config but i don't understand how to tinker with it..

[topaz viper]

1. go to https://gcsim.app/simulator
2. scroll down to "Action List" and copy+paste the config
3. you can change the artifacts, stats, rotations and such in the config now
   there should also be a video/guide on that page

[kind dawn]

okay thanks! i'll check it out

[austere thicket]

If hydro is applied onto an enemy that has quicken and dendro aura, will the hydro react with the dendro or quicken aura first?

[zealous eagle]

They will react at the same time

And both will be drained the full value

[rocky bronze]

How much % are you losing from burgeon damage from level 70 compared to level 90

[rocky bronze]

Thanks!

[twin wasp]

ignoring comfort, in a haitham quickbloom team raiden would be a bit better than kuki right?

[twin wasp]

by how much?

[supple spindle]

is aqua simulacra better than r5 shirtless for venti?

[sly flint]

#・genshin-help and I think thats r5 something else

[abstract phoenix]

Baizhu leaks?

[hard wharf]

not the right place to ask for this. pls go to #・tc-lounge

[south oar]

Raiden eye procs faster so seeds won't be wasted as in case with kuki

Raiden=more hyperblooms

[twin wasp]

how great is the dps loss?

[neat niche]

negligible rly

[twin wasp]

ty

[supple spindle]

c1 hu tao -xingqiu - c4 mona -zhongli
or
c0 hu tao - xingqiu - yelan -zhongli

[blazing nymph]

C0 hu tao - xq - yelan - dehya trusted me

[cobalt blaze]

The latter, also #・genshin-help can help u better next time

[pine ivy]

https://youtu.be/adZvNDQzQmQ how he do dat ? Someone plis explen

[gloomy yoke]

Camera glitch

It's been patched

[potent sphinx]

Guys, at C1 how much ER Yelan needs?

[weary abyss]

Hello there you can go to #・tc-bot-spam then type h!yelan or you can ask it in #・genshin-help for further discussion about her

[potent sphinx]

Thank you dear ♡

I have enough ER then ♡

[supple raven]

anyone knows how burgeon is calculated? I see that there is a base damage but there is also a damage formula without the base damage included

[low shale]

sane as any other transformative reaction
base dmg based on character level
EM multiplies the base dmg

[supple raven]

so that formula 3.0 x whatever multiplied by base damage?

[fleet raft]

Hi, how do i do showcase in co op?
I was trying to do a showcase on scara boss with my friend, after he destroyed the turret on 2nd phase he left my world but i didn't get my previous 2 characters before co op
How does that work? TIA

[rocky bronze]

Hi, I think you should try asking in #・genshin-help for this one

[supple raven]

because it would be like 4340.56 x 3 x 1446.8 x something else still ? that's a bit on the high end isn't it

[low shale]

where did you get the 1446.8?

[supple raven]

level multiplier at 90

is it a percentage?

[waxen cobalt]

Thats for c0, nvm its 2 skill bursts

Its for both

[rugged spire]

You don't need the 4340.56 cuz that's just the lvl multiplier times the reaction multiplier

So just 1446.8 * 3

[supple raven]

I see thank you

[abstract phoenix]

Should I pull Al Haitham or for aqua simulacra and homa?

I have enough primos for guaranteed on one of the banners.
If I get Al Haitham I am not pulling for his sig weap.
Currently hutao is on deathmatch and yelan is on fav bow.

[rugged spire]

A question like this is better suited for #・genshin-help

[unreal minnow]

Depends on your account, if you're lacking a on field dps character then you should go with Alhaitham he's a very decent dendro dps and he won't be powercrept for a long while.

If you like Hutao then her C1>Homa for dps but having homa will have give more flexibility in your account

If you have yelan then my personal preference would be C1>Aqua but the damage increase by Aqua will be more significant while C1 will let you use Hp sand easier overworld exploration.

In the end, my advice would be to save your primogems if you aren't sure about getting alhaitham and as for weapons/constellations...having more characters is better.

[south oar]

Does fischl A4 get boosted by stringless?

[dusk token]

Yes

[tawdry glade]

its [standard transformative formula x 3] + [standard base damage x 3 x transformative % damage bonus]

base damage only matters for effects that increase reaction damage by X%

like paradise lost

[supple raven]

after looking into it more I don't think this is right

the base damage I found, bloom in this case was simply level multiplier multiplied by that reaction's multiplier
you then multiply that with (1+ %Em bonus + %reaction bonus)

and res multiplier of course if that applies

[tawdry glade]

yeah that works too i guess

[whole lion]

Wait wrong chat

[supple spindle]

how big is lisa c6 radius for enemies to be afected?

[knotty gull]

When is kazuha speculated?

[rocky bronze]

#853474886047629323 or #・copium is better suited for this type of question. This channel is for focused theorycrafting. Thanks!

[autumn dawn]

We have met many npcs from six regions except Natlan, not even an adventurer or merchant, I wonder why.

[weary abyss]

Henlo, I wonder why too? But I feel like this topic is pretty much more appropriate in general chat which is #・tc-lounge

[clear spear]

it's probably a classic example of "surely theorycrafting means making genshin theories"

[south escarp]

guys help me decide, i have both c0r1 yelan and hutao, whice c1 is more valuable or better?

[strange torrent]

I think you'll find more help in #・genshin-help

[south escarp]

okay thanks

[vague turret]

FUUUUUUCK YEAAAAA

Small dehya W

She now has Dual scaling

With HP

Her numbers are still trash

But hey

Its a start

[clear spear]

It's actually the end but ok

[mellow eagle]

its literally a nerf

[earnest lagoon]

Quick question which set is better 4 pc shim or 4 pc desert for Wanderer?

[rocky bronze]

Hi, some people might answer you here but I think #・genshin-help can give you a quick response for questions like this.

[bright swift]

what was the "beta" optimizer ?

[rugged spire]

!!lilbro

[misty thistle]

https://teucerdev.github.io/little-bro/

[supple spindle]

dehya is now equal to hu tao

[mellow eagle]

which chars do we think are the best for vertical investment

5*s

[rocky bronze]

Hi, this question is more suited in #・genshin-help since they're more specialized with account-specific stuff and or #・tc-lounge if you want to have a discussion about it and have several opinions. You can read the 2nd pin in this channel to see what kind of questions we mainly allow here.

[rocky bronze]

Hi would you care to elaborate, is this a statement you wish do discuss or is this a question? Thanks!

[supple spindle]

she has hp scaling like hu tao now

[rocky bronze]

Yeah! There are also a lot of like-minded people who would like to discuss that but the appropriate channel would be #1064588404458799165 and or #・tc-lounge, so please use them next time. Thank you!

[lunar pebble]

look at van being a proper mod

smh

[thin thorn]

hi hi, can anyone tell me if r1 thundering pulse or r1 amos bow is better for tighnari in a spread team with yae?

[dusk token]

This question is more suited for #・genshin-help

[thin thorn]

ah sorry, ty!

[wooden belfry]

who are you and what did you do to van

[rugged spire]

😔 van recently got dn

[wooden belfry]

tragic

[soft drift]

I gave it to him

[ember crescent]

Is this copium for her?

[rocky bronze]

Hi #・genshin-help is more suited for questions like this, you can read the 2nd pin in this channel to see what kind of questions we mainly allow here.

[south oar]

Alhaitham and yaoyao channel gone?

[rugged spire]

Their banners ended so yeah the channels were archived. If you have any questions about either character you can try asking in #・genshin-help

[pine ivy]

does anyone know how to theorycraft unreleased characters

i have waited close to a month for any pike mika calcs

but no one seems to be interested to

and I would like to calc it on my own, is there resources to get started with calcing?

cuz i have no idea how to yeah

[cobalt blaze]

Pins have resources to help you out

[soft drift]

h!sheet

k!sheet

[soft drift]

k!templates

[lofty echo]

Calculation Templates

Below, you can find multiple calculation templates for all your DPS calculation needs using Excel or Google Sheets. Do keep in mind that you will need to install a solver add-on.

[sly flint]

sigurd

[pine ivy]

oh thank you very much

[waxen cobalt]

Hes now a slave

[gentle stream]

I'm curious for any itto havers here, if you only had to choose one of these 3 compositions, which would you go for?

[wise rock]

Which one is better?

[rocky bronze]

@gentle stream @wise rock , Hi #・genshin-help is more suited for questions like this or if you want opinions from like minded individuals, you can ask in #・tc-lounge . Please read the 2nd pin in this channel to see what kind of questions we mainly allow here.

[covert trellis]

Situational depending on what u need
Survivability diona
Bit of extra dmg lisa but u gonna need fav on her and maybe gorou else its gonna be so hard to keep ulting on lisa on every rotation if u dont feed her particles
Beidou is a nono, not worth it since u ll have to go ER to keep burst uptime and its just not optimal and sacrificing dmg for ER on beidou feels meh

[hard prairie]

what was written above, but I would favor even more Diona

as itto has meat brains, and gorou(depending on content), will have a hard time keeping Itto alive

[wise rock]

No, wait guys. That's not mine, it's not my team.

You got the wrong guy.

[hard prairie]

we answered to the wrong person, reade 3 coments above plz xD

[gentle stream]

huh?

i got the memo already that i wasnt supposed to ask here

[wise rock]

Just misunderstanding guys, it's alright. Don't worry about it.

[coarse terrace]

Does Yelan C2 have better or equal hydro application than xingqiu c6?

[rugged spire]

still worse afaik however it's enough for the pyro roster

[round stirrup]

wavebreaker fin r3 vs the catch r5 vs homa r1 for xiangling? I am running funerational so i have the hp buff and no bennett so would it be homa?

[dull fjord]

Homa on hu tao
Catch on xiangling

[round stirrup]

I have two homas lol

[dull fjord]

Homa + er sands on xiangling then

[pine ivy]

has anyone ever tried playing a kind of fridge team with ayato/ganyu/venti/nahida?

[hexed widget]

with fav yelan, for c6 xq is better atk sands and sac or er sands and harbinger of dawm

[rugged spire]

who else is on the team

[hexed widget]

fav thoma and hu tao sry

[rugged spire]

atk sands with sac should be fine

[hexed widget]

better for dmg??

[pine ivy]

chat, how much improvement am i gonna get if i give my sucrose nahida's-weapon ? instead of using ttds

[waxen cobalt]

@dusty osprey i need some standards set so i wont be doing this for no avail
How many team comps do you want me to look into? as i said previously, theres certain team comps that are just obvious not to run over another due to the buffs, the synergy, etc
How do you want me to explore the optimal rotations and such?
I am not looking into front loaded dmg since thats for speedrunning, i care more about total dmg per rotation for a theoretically infinite hp enemy

until we set these standards it would be a waste of time for me to continue looking into this

there must some sort of criteria you are looking for when people are doing this kind of stuff

[dusty osprey]

finding the most optimized team comp for sustained dps is quite an iterative endeavor that takes a lot of time or experience. unfortunately there isn't a magic number of teams that you calculate where you can definitely say "this is the best team". i can emphasize that this is something that is iterative and usually progress faster with multiple people working on searching for better and better team set ups.

as i said previously, theres certain team comps that are just obvious not to run over another due to the buffs, the synergy, etc
one thing that i would advise on is being careful with throwing out team archetypes because of minor anti synergies as genshin oftentimes has brute forced options that function well despite anti synergies. the ability to identify things like this just kinda comes with experience gained from previous tc work.

so for the answer of what standard there is to declare what is the best team, there is unfortunately no way to set one. what we can do is declare that x team has more dps than y team, but theres no way to know for sure that you find the ideal team without a crazy brute force approach of testing every single permutation of rotation + gear + team which isnt possible practically speaking.

the current way i would approach this is, look for the best team you can find by exploring strong archetypes using your intuition. then wait for peers to review your work and hope that they can find a better optimization or approach. remember each time you find something better you get closer to the goal of finding the better team! eventually you will run into a situation where no better options are found for an extended amount of time, which then you can say this is the best option that we know of.

i hope that helps and encourages you to continue to pursue this plight of tcing

[torn ginkgo]

@waxen cobalt what evaluation criteria ate you looking for? Look, there is such a thing as a competitive element. Ask a question if the subject u're studing has a competitive element.
There is no competition in the this game, so any team-synergy you come up with will be your personal find. Unless, ofc, your want to monetize this business, it is unlikely that someone will you in this matter.

[sterile yew]

Does off field damage like xingqiu, fischl, yelan and albedo benefit from crit dmg?

[rugged spire]

yes

[sterile yew]

Thank you

[final rune]

Hello i just want to know who is the best set for shenhe pls

[clear spear]

k!shenhe

[lofty echo]

Shenhe

An adepti disciple with a most unusual air about her. Having spent much time cultivating in isolation in Liyue's mountains, she has become every bit as cool and distant as the adepti themselves.

[final rune]

Thx man

[echo root]

which is better for yoimiya, R1 Aqua or R4 Rust?

[hard wharf]

@torpid vortex @echo root your questions are better asked in #・genshin-help (or if stats aren't officially released yet #・tc-lounge), pls check pins next time for what kind of questions we allow in this channel

[clever phoenix]

according to this, the lowest duration of quicken should be 11s right? since 1U is the lowest gauge.

but why in here, tighnari CA (1U) and yae NA (1U) only gives ~9s duration of quicken?
https://youtu.be/SukGWrntpwY?t=410

[zealous eagle]

No

because the aura can decay before quicken is triggered

theres also tax

[clever phoenix]

how the exact duration are calculated?

[zealous eagle]

same as that formula

but when you apply an elemnet to an anemey and don't trigger a reaction

its gauge gets multiplied by 0.8

[clever phoenix]

i see. thats the tax. and it can be lower the longer the lowest gauge stay on target?

[zealous eagle]

Yes

thats decay

[clever phoenix]

👌

[round stirrup]

should i try to grind an EM sands with crit rate? I also have shime set wth 75/200 crit and 40 more EM

[sly flint]

A question for #・genshin-help thank you very much!

[south oar]

Is slingshot good for c6 yelan?

[acoustic widget]

really ? if you can afford c6 yelan i don't think you can't afford r1 aqua

[south oar]

It's not about affording but i just wanna know does the 60% charge attack boost her c6 na breakthrough barbs...

[dusk token]

They do work yeah

[south oar]

Nice

[hoary hedge]

k!diluc

[lofty echo]

Diluc

The tycoon of a winery empire in Mondstadt, unmatched in every possible way.

[low sphinx]

k!qiqi

[lofty echo]

Qiqi

An apprentice and herb gatherer at Bubu Pharmacy. An undead with a bone-white complexion, she seldom has much in the way of words or emotion.

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Please use #・tc-bot-spam for the bot commands

[vague turret]

So we can alla agree that dehya at c0 is garbage

But has anyone calculated wether shell be good at higher consts

Call it copium but since she's standard it's somewhat doable

[clear spear]

there's a tc channel specifically for that #1064588404458799165

[vague turret]

To have consts

[clear spear]

[vague turret]

Oh that was made

[clear spear]

like 2 months ago yea

people there have run out of copium supplies but can probably give you the answer you want

[runic kraken]

Guys is 4 deepwood kokomi viable

No nahida here

The team is alhaitham raiden yelan kokomi

[rocky bronze]

Yes you can use deepwood on kokomi, and please use #・genshin-help next time for questions like this tysm

[runic kraken]

Noted

[final rune]

k!shenhe

[lofty echo]

Shenhe

An adepti disciple with a most unusual air about her. Having spent much time cultivating in isolation in Liyue's mountains, she has become every bit as cool and distant as the adepti themselves.

[rocky bronze]

Please head next time to #・tc-bot-spam for the bot commands, tysm

[final rune]

Ok np

[chrome inlet]

would amos, windblume, or stringless be better on tighnari

is there even anyone who makes good use of amos besides ganyu

[chrome inlet]

also like what team comp are you even supposed to make with him

catalyze ofc but idk what else to put besides fischl

?

i was gonna put him with cyno but i don't think their kits are exactly compatible at all since tighnari kit screams quickswap team and cyno has excessively long field time even if you end it early to shorten rotation time

[rocky bronze]

It's better to ask in #・genshin-help for these, you can read the second pin to know what kind of questions we allow here, thanks!

[chrome inlet]

ah ok

[south oar]

I am using slingshot

[south oar]

Tighnari ,fischl ,zhongli/diona Nahida/dmc/yae

[brisk crescent]

do we have any idea what talents kaveh and baizhu will take???

[proper jetty]

Can someone here explain why 1:2 crit ratio is mathematically optimal comparing to other ratios like 1:3?

Like is 50:220 really worse than 70:140 In terms of damage?

[gloomy yoke]

Game gives CR:CD in 1:2 ratio

[vale scarab]

220x.5 = 110. 140x.7= 98

Different ratios can be better in uour personal artifacts, more is still more. But 1:2 is gonna be effecient stat distribution

In ur example the first actually has more raw crit rolls

A more fair comparison is 70:140 vs 50:180

[low shale]

I mean, not in this case cause the first one is actually more stats in this case
considering a character with no crit ascension and crit weapon, the first one is 45 CR and 170 CDMG from artifacts which is 280 CV while the second is 65 CR and 90 CDMG which is 220 CV
so, lets use the example Se7en said
imagine you do 10 hits with the same X amount of dmg
in the second case, 5 of those hits will crit and do 180% more dmg (2,8 * X), and 5 of them wont crit and will deal their normal dmg X
that will add up to 5 x (2,8 * X) + 5X = 19 * X
but in the second case now, 7 of the hits will crit and do 140% more dmg (2,4 * X), and only 3 of them wont crit and will deal their normal dmg X
that will add up to 7 x (2,4 * X) + 3X = 19,8 * X

but this is just reflect of the game artifact system
since the max amount of CR you can get anywhere (ascension stat, weapon stat, artifact main and substats) is always half of the max amount of CDMG you can get in the same place

if the distribution was 1:1, the ideal CR:CDMG ratio would also be 1:1

[hard wharf]

#853474886047629323 is a more appropriate place to ask this. check the pins next time on what kind of things we allow here.

[proper jetty]

I see, ty

[south oar]

If u keep cv constant, that maxima is obtained when Cr=2Cd

[gloomy yoke]

2CR = CD *

[clever phoenix]

its just a rule of math. balancing resources give better value in multiplication.
like if you have 10 units of things.
5x5 = 25
4x6 = 24
3x7 = 21
so balancing where you put ur resources in will give difference final value.

idk what im talking about

[clear spear]

invalid proof, first one has 40cv more

[clear spear]

that has nothing to do with the ratio tho? it has much higher cv

skill issue on the asker's side tbh

[lunar pebble]

so why are you asking me

if it is their problem

[frail minnow]

h!dehya

[real steppe]

commands in #・tc-bot-spam please

[supple spindle]

when are we going toget baizhu and kaveh tc channel?

[south oar]

Cv needs to be same if u are making comparison

[tranquil burrow]

Does Wanderer’s C6 hits help to proc echoes?

Or yoimiya’s C6 hits, which works the same way. Do they help to proc echoes of offering?

[vague turret]

Just saw the baizhu leaks

Shit

He seems really good

Dendro app doesn't seem the best

But his deep wood procs will probably be nice and consistent

Shields heals and assuming you cab reach a reasonable 30k hp a HUGE 60% hyperbloom damage and 24% spread bonus

Now I can't decide between him and nahida