・genshin-help

[paper gust]

it's like they WANT to lose players lmao

[urban snow]

Durin

And

other girlie

Nicole

I forgot my question

[graceful glade]

its ok i understand

[lyric mist]

yes

[icy tusk]

is there any particular hexerei shill boss that needs durin

should I just pull nicole and durin so my venti has a team

[bright perch]

hihi

is aubade better or silken moon for lauma?

[delicate shale]

can someone explain to me how the "make a wish" function of traveler's accounts/tales/anecdotes work? ever since i started playing again, i have only ever received traveler's accounts/tales/anecdotes in nod krai. i finally did the "make a wish" short quest at the narukami shrine, and i chose amber. Today, my tales wasn't amber, nor was it in nod krai, but it selected kachina in natlan??? wtf explains that, did i mess up in doing that quest? I wouldn't have minded finishing all nod krai encounters first, but did i open pandora's box and now am liable to get encounters in all nations?

[timber wolf]

It happens in 1-2 days time

So most likely amber one will be tomorrow

It just increases the chances i think

[graceful glade]

silken ofcourse

[glad storm]

Are the chance here fake?

[glad storm]

Did they reduced character banner length from 21 days to 18 days?

[paper gust]

yes

they always are

[rain crypt]

I need help 😫

[fallow meteor]

y'all ummm

my nefer is doing 0 dmg basically

:\

any chance someone could help me out?

[nocturne mango]

Can anyone tell me what main stats I should focus on for my Sandrone build?

Em or Atk?

[small sand]

I'm guessing once u get your columbina u will get them insane damages

[small sand]

That's something better asked in tc channel

[nocturne mango]

Oh my bad

[graceful glade]

scammer

[mint anvil]

That damage doesn't really look bad assuming c0r0 nefer and lauma.

[urban snow]

I thought nefer without bina should still hit 100k?

[mint anvil]

That 59k could be anything. I'm looking at the overall damage. 6 mil in 100sec isn't bad

[twin tapir]

What would be Durin’s best artis?

Rising Winds vs. Noblesse vs. Celestial Gift?

[mint anvil]

Depends on what you're doing with him and the team.

[twin tapir]

my team will be varka-durin-bennett-sucrose or klee-fischl-chevruse-durin

[mint anvil]

In both of those, probably gift. If you had Nicole I'd say there's a case to run winds with varka but

Also you should really get Nicole for both of them 😭

[twin tapir]

just spent 160 wishes on durin, i’m broke 😔😔😔😔😔😔

[urban snow]

Hypothetically would I need Durin or Nicole more

[mint anvil]

You really don't need either lol

[urban snow]

Oh my friend did a 10pull on my acc just for the funsies

I got prune

15 pity now

[mint anvil]

You don't have varka, venti, klee, lyney, kinich, mualani, an electro carry, chevreuse, theres zero reason to touch this banner

Prune is also useless to you

[urban snow]

I do have venti

He kinda super on the bench tho

[mint anvil]

Yeah but not like. Dps venti.

[urban snow]

Rust Venti?

[mint anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/gross-yuck-ick-cringe-gif-11472744808921743257

I mean if you gotta but

[urban snow]

I have electro carry raiden

https://tenor.com/view/heck-yeah-gif-10962469515215893787

[mint anvil]

Raiden isn't the kind I'm talking about lol.

Raiden is dead in a ditch

[urban snow]

https://tenor.com/view/xyun-yumeship-chongyun-vampsicle-gif-12714753147617990141

Melt Chongyun

[mint anvil]

Yuna please don't waste pulls on this banner 😭

[urban snow]

Next banner also no use

Unless I get mavuika whom I cant pla

y

[mint anvil]

I mean we dunno the 4*s

[urban snow]

I wonder wether solo mavuika would outperform skirk premium but chongyun instead of skirk

[mint anvil]

Yes it would out perform chong. You'd just take forever to charge her burst.

[urban snow]

Ah wait so one rotation mav is the same dmg just takes longer to get Q?

[mint anvil]

But since iansan and chev weren't on this banner there's a good chance they're with Mav

I mean you'll be lacking her supports

But her burst doesn't charge at a reasonable pace as solo night soul character

Does your account have yae I forget

Sandrone might be a good option if you do

[urban snow]

I do have yae!

oki

bina and sandrome it is then?

Or should I skip bina till I get Ineffa

I do want bina tho

[mint anvil]

Bina is probably a good pickup still.

We really dunno who's running next patch yet though

[urban snow]

Oki

Thank u

Oh right

Should I pick C1 Yae seeing how she could be used with sandrome?

Idek what c1 does

[mint anvil]

If you think you can get Sandrone. The rumors I heard were citlali, bina, and either Raiden or ineffa next patch, since citlali is getting a skin and lunarcharged is being shilled

[urban snow]

8 Energy

does Yae even Q

that resets her turrets no?

[mint anvil]

As of next patch's beta

[urban snow]

Ohhh

It will be better

old constellations suck

Oml

[mint anvil]

TC folks have been saying yae qiqi Sandrone would be sandrones core for now

[urban snow]

I remember C4 Xiao being like 300% def
And c4 albedo being like Plunge atk dmg bonus

[urban snow]

I do have Qiqi my first ever 5*

[mint anvil]

Since qiqi is getting like a full kit rework, her c6 will actually be good.

[urban snow]

I did also lose to Qiqi on sandrome's gf's banner

[urban snow]

revive

wait

can I trigger lunarcharged without ineffa and flins?

bina jajoda fischl...

[mint anvil]

Yeah but it'll be awful

[urban snow]

So Bina Ineffa Sandrome

540 pulls

525

[mint anvil]

I mean you can just. Skip Sandrone for now.

[urban snow]

84000 primos

ah

[mint anvil]

She'll rerun faster than others.

[urban snow]

345

55200 primos?

[urban snow]

Oh true cuz new character

Similar retun time to ineffa probably

if she isnt like weak

[mint anvil]

People think she's solid if you have yae and c6 qiqi. I have neither so I'm not bothering on her first run personally.

[urban snow]

Oh

I dont have c6 Qiqi

What a requirement

Ganyu didnt get buffed from stellar right

[mint anvil]

It was like beidou mizuki diona qiqi yae wriothsley cyno, and yae and wrios weapons

[urban snow]

Ah I see

Beidou is back on top

[mint anvil]

Sandrones team will likely change drastically as we get new characters

[delicate shale]

one more thing, do encounters have a static cooldown, or do you always get one after reset? i finished kachina's maybe 12 hours ago (before today's reset) and i don't see another encounter on the map. i can't recall a day where i had no encounters available (prior to doing the make a wish quest), there was always 1-2 encounters in nod krai.

[urban snow]

I see

[fallow meteor]

tbh, i thought so too

[urban snow]

Hmm

[fallow meteor]

This is the nefer build btw

She's on r5 widsith

[mint anvil]

You should craft blackmarrow for her.

Widsith falls off hard if not the em buff.

[eager perch]

hi guys !! which weapon do you guys think would be best for mav?

im planning to run her as a sub dps for mualani and kinich since im not planning on pulling for citlali, MAYBE xilonen in the future but idrk

(id like to keep kinich on his sig preferably)

[shrewd coral]

Hi, can u help me build 2 team for the abyss 12

Thanks you

[mint anvil]

Mailed flower

[mint anvil]

Wow you just kinda pulled no supports huh? 💀

First, Chev Bennett Clorinde Xiangling
Second half you can do neuv lauma aino kuki most likely.

First half is gonna be scuffed because you have a bunch of dpses with no supports

[shrewd coral]

i am returner xD, genshin hard for me now

Thank you so much

[eager perch]

which one? sorry 😭

ou nvm i see it

[mint anvil]

Should be the one Sayu is holding

[eager perch]

why wouldnt the 5 star ones be better?

is it bc of her role as a sub?

[mint anvil]

It just isn't. None of them are particularly good for her outside of like, kinich as a stat stick. Mailed flower is on par with a stacked unforged and wolfs gravestone. Skyward is just bad and I'll be honest I dunno what the second weapon is

[eager perch]

gotcha tysm, its varkas weapon :)

i thought itd be okay bc of the crit rate substat

[mint anvil]

It likely isn't any better, just a crit stick.

[eager perch]

icic, thank you !! with mailed flower id build her more skewed towards em right?

[mint anvil]

I think you pretty much just build her standard. Is she on her own or supporting kinich?

[eager perch]

ill swap her between kinich and mualani i think

or maybe ill run her on her own if i need a pyro dps team?

[mint anvil]

Varkas weapon might work decently, but I don't expect her to stack it to max, even on field. Most of the sheets/info don't have calcs for it

If you were doing mav overload with like, Nicole fischl chev, it might work.

[mint anvil]

The game is a lot harder than it used to be honestly. Id say just run skirk first half but without escoffier she's not nearly as good

[mint anvil]

I asked in TC, they seem to think it's fine. Ultimately it'll all perform kinda similarly because she's off field anyways and not contributing a ton of damage in either team

[warm tinsel]

Which one is more ideal? For reference he’s on Night Sky and signature

[eager perch]

thank you !!

[mint anvil]

^

[warm tinsel]

Oh shit that’s a thing

[warm tinsel]

Thank you!

[plucky sentinel]

hello, rn im doing a lunar bloom team using nilou w/ 2p 2p hp sets, nahida with 4pc deepwood, lauma w/ 4pc night of sky unveiling, columbina with 4pc silken moon. are those the best sets to put on them? i feel like lauma could have a better set but idk what to use

[mint anvil]

I'd switch lauma and bina sets personally. You'd be better off on fielding bina than lauma, with the amount of dendro app between nahida and lauma.

[graceful glade]

scammer

[glad storm]

How much HP for columbina? Is 43K good?

[graceful glade]

yes

[dusty ingot]

Hello I have:

Mavuika premium team
Skirk premium team
Flins premium team
Zibai semi premium team
Nuevilette premium team

I want to invest in Nicole or Durin. The only character I think Nicole would work well in my roster is Arlecchinno or Raiden.

For my account would be better to invest in Durin or Nicole?

[graceful glade]

durin over nicole

[timber wolf]

Might as well not get any tbh

[woeful venture]

Do you vertical invest

Nicole with cons is good for mav

Also wdym by mav premium, skirk premium and neuv premium

That's too vague

[glad storm]

How do i open this chest? I already have all check marks?

[graceful glade]

its only for special people

[mint anvil]

Neither.

[graceful glade]

scammer

[native bough]

Hi, I'm looking to add some friends in Europe server to have more variety of characters available in the theater.

I've included a list of the characters I'm missing. Feel free to add me even if you don't have them, in case you need one of mine, as I have plenty of space on my friends list. UID 700657233 (Europe)

[frozen wraith]

hi, trying to clear abyss side 2 with no meta dendro outside of kinich. So i'm seeing if i can build colombina main dps. Does EM do anything for her lunar dendro dmg on charged attack?

[mint anvil]

Do you have dendro traveler? You literally can just run another lunar team with them as a 4th for that boss.

[frozen wraith]

floor 2 can't be cleared in time with nahida colombina tighnari zhongli. I cleared floor 1 with 3 stars already so i don't care how long it takes with the second attempt

iirc floor 3 needs hyperbloom ?

[mint anvil]

It needs bloom reactions. I did it with bina ineffa lauma sucrose but I'd imagine nahida is fine over lauma

If you struggle with 12-3 after, back out and just take a hyperbloom team.

[frozen wraith]

k ty will try mdps colombina, raiden nahida zhongli now for floor 2

[mint anvil]

Is bina your only nk character? 💀

[frozen wraith]

i have ineffa bina flins

and aino ofc

[mint anvil]

Take ineffa nahida sucrose bina

[frozen wraith]

omg he disappeared so fast

tyvm

[mint anvil]

[frozen wraith]

CLEARED 9*

tyvm

first time since inazuma i had trouble clearing abyss lmao

[mint anvil]

Lunar shills can be tricky but if you have bina ineffa in my experience you can just kinds brute force it by shoehorning in the element you need

[warm ferry]

"since Inazuma"

💀

[frozen wraith]

wolflord was annoying back then, had to build ninguang as a support lmao

actually nvm i remember i had issues with the desert worm during 3.x

[small sand]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mcmahon-gif-26506627

[distant blaze]

this scams even less compelling than the mrbeast one

[small sand]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1376982154181083291/1506710450438668450/togif-1.gif

[woeful venture]

Stealing this

[graceful glade]

scammer

[small sand]

[timber wolf]

Gonna take him down🫡

[mint anvil]

Oh damn zeo staff arc

[timber wolf]

Yeah smh

[glad storm]

Cam i still rename my mannequin or am i stuck with that forever?

[naive ferry]

u can rename them if u havent used these keys

[compact tapir]

Hi guys should I use Dawning Frost or the craftable catalyst for Nefer??

My Nefer has 800+ EM and 200+ Crit Dmg using the F2P Catalyst whereas when using Dawning Frost, Nefer will have 250+ Crit Dmg and 600+ EM

[high rapids]

Craftable

[high rapids]

I can't be sure if you're being fr or not

....

[timber wolf]

If you have dawning frost it's better

[timber wolf]

You know it's better if you own it right

[high rapids]

r1 is precisely 1% better, and their em and crit values tip the scales to craftable

[urban halo]

waht! no way it's a rerun for 4* event weapon

[timber wolf]

Not really it's just s weapon skin that looks like that old event weapon

[urban halo]

yeah, figured it

[proud canyon]

anyone know what i could be missing from little buddy quest that isnt letting it complete? i have every hidden achievement in natlan, have a high enough score in the warrior challenge (i am speed achievement), did the kamera quests and activated the source idol. and did every WQ as far as i know

[small sand]

What's the completing it? Did your buddy leave already?

Or is he still in his house?

[proud canyon]

no im talking about triggering the final quest

[small sand]

If he's still there then u must be missing one of the required quests

I learned about that after Linnea quest (found out about it there)

[lavish vector]

Hello I ended up pulling for Nicole. However I am not sure what team she can be used in, can someone help me with some team comps? And is it worth investing in her C1/Weapon? Or should I save it for Sandrone since I intend to pull for her as well.

[mint anvil]

Skip c1 and weapon.

Best team is probably klee/fischl/chev/nicole, venti/durin/faru/nicole. There's also a kinich/durin/nicole team in there for sure but I dunno who the 4th would be out of this

Edit oh you do have emilie, in that case, emilie durin nicole kinich works as well.

[tacit acorn]

Does Nicole's atk buff, and Prune's C2 atk buff apply to Prune's atk to damage buff conversion?

[lavish vector]

Is durin in venti team the dark durin?

[mint anvil]

It's off field durin.

[paper gust]

you pretty much have all the chars teams she would be best in aside from varka
Kinich-Emilie-Durin-Nicole
Venti/Wanderer-Durin-Nicole-Faruzan/Prune
Varesa/Clorinde-Nicole-Durin-Chevreuse
Klee-Fischl-Chev-Nicole

There is also another team I really enjoy, not necessarily BIS but I find it very fun
Ganyu-Emilie-Durin-Nicole

You can also do
Itto-Durin-Nicole-Albedo for a fun geo team

thought i suppose gorou might be better than nicole there

[mint anvil]

Wanderer and varesa both prefer Bennett vs c0 Nicole.

[paper gust]

varesa is better with nicole since she moves so much, while yes her dps will be higher with bennett, it's harder to maintain since she's constantly moving, which is why iansan is used with her, and nicole is better than iansan.
Though yeah wanderer might be better with bennett, I assumed he would be about the same because of durin also getting buffed by nicole

[mint anvil]

But also even with Nicole, nobody would be running wanderer in 2026. His damage is rancid

Stellar swirl surely saves him

[paper gust]

yes please 😭 he's gotta be getting buffed, right?

i mean, he's a harbinger!

[graceful glade]

he is not

he is an evil twink

[paper gust]

close enough

[upper bloom]

is mav sig worth?

[mint anvil]

Extremely for on field Mav, yes.

Off field less so

[graceful glade]

@mint anvil

let me show you

wait

wgs should be the best for mavuika from here right?

[paper gust]

beacon is her 2nd best weapon i think

[graceful glade]

how dare you look at my dehya's weapon

its only for her

[paper gust]

im sorry 💔 WGS is great on her too

[graceful glade]

ok thank you

[paper gust]

i share my beacon and varka's sig with like 10 characters 😭

i got too many claymore chars 💔

[graceful glade]

wow

im lazy to share tbh

used to give the verdict to dehya when i did showcases

[paper gust]

i only really switch if im doing endgame, if im using them in overworld ill just use whatever brick they have on lol

this does become a problem a lot since i constantly forget when im halfway thru abyss wondering "why is varka doing like 2 damage"

[graceful glade]

right

bruh

[timber wolf]

Let me ask you something how could you betray dehya and get another pyro dps

[graceful glade]

that is not betrayal

i actually tried to find new lovers for her

imagine dehya with

mavuika/beidou/xilolen

😱

nefer too

candace doesnt count because she stays with her all the time during quests

[mint anvil]

Beacon yeah. WGS ranks pretty low.

[graceful glade]

No

beacon overcaps the crit

[graceful glade]

and tbf

im only getting mavuika as a support

not a dps

support to use with varesa

i already have arle i did not really need mavuika

[mint anvil]

Just get durin at that point if you need an off field support lol

[wind meteor]

can someone help me out?

i played inconsistently and i decided not to pull until 6.0 so i can guarantee myself a meta team (even though i really like nicole/sandrone but i don't have a dps for her)

is there anything i should know beforehand, any artifact sents i should grind, anyone i should pull for?

[novel mural]

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[teal path]

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[wind meteor]

keep in mind i have almost 1000h (:p)

ar57, like 60% of the way to ar58

cooked

who should i pull for?

who do i wait for?

what artifact sets do i grind?

what materials do i save/earn?

i have r1 wolfs gravestone and skyward atlas if that matters

what weeklies do i fight?

[mint anvil]

I mean samdrone IS a dps.
I think you wanna either save for linnea for your zibai team, or get sandrone and see what snez brings

[wind meteor]

i dont have zibai

where did u get zibai

[timber wolf]

Yeah absolutely use her with a character that just works antisynergistically

[timber wolf]

We are already past the 6.x versions

[graceful glade]

she doesnt ruin the comp

basically does nothing there like kuki

[wind meteor]

7.0*

[graceful glade]

except for the healings

[wind meteor]

typo

[mint anvil]

Oh that's skirk

Why do you have bina with nobody else 💀

[wind meteor]

i lost the 50/50 on escoffier and went to 85 pity

didnt get her

banner ended

[wind meteor]

waifubaited me into pulling

and i wanted nefer

[graceful glade]

because people said she can do all lunar reactions by herself

[timber wolf]

Tbh just wait for the 7.0 beta cause as things stand rn sandrone team really seems to be yae

[wind meteor]

i didnt get ineffa either

[wind meteor]

7.0 beta when

thats like

summer event

time

right

[mint anvil]

None of these anymore. Post your roster.

[timber wolf]

Which is kinda bad as she will only be on Chronicle banner and not her own banner

[timber wolf]

Yes

Which is next version

[graceful glade]

no

[wind meteor]

so like, do my dailies, do my quests and exploration and uhh

enjoy life

without pull worries

[timber wolf]

Yes

[wind meteor]

i have 19 story quests i ahvent done

[timber wolf]

Cause anyways fir now the banner is nicole

[wind meteor]

the summer vent and lanter rite

and act 9

[timber wolf]

You have no team for her

[wind meteor]

i havent explored the monstadt expansion

[graceful glade]

zeo when did you become a mod

[wind meteor]

my late natlan explo is like at 70%

sumeru desert is okay ig

[timber wolf]

About a day or two ago

[wind meteor]

i did like the big quests

[graceful glade]

ok

[wind meteor]

i explored like 55% of fontaine

[mint anvil]

Zeo staff arc (again)

[wind meteor]

FUCK I NEED TO SET MY COMMISIONS FOR SUMERU FOR THOSE DAMN COMMISIONS QUESTS

they start in sumeru right

how long is the new aq

[mint anvil]

Long

[wind meteor]

im not skipper i do like 80% of the dialogue

[wind meteor]

wait we havent even gotten the traveler quest for this region

uhh

9 hours holy hell

[high rapids]

?

ah you want a tighnari team?

[timber wolf]

This time is kinda easy this time around

[mint anvil]

Much quieter nowadays haha

[timber wolf]

Yup

Just the spam people to deal with most of the time

[high rapids]

ah please take conversation elsewhere!

zeo do your job

[mint anvil]

I think best current team would just be bina ineffa tigh fischl. But you have none of those
Zhong fischl tigh iansan/sucrose is probably the best you've got

[high rapids]

sucrose, for thr EM

[timber wolf]

Hai hai

[mint anvil]

Hex buff is also probably not irrelevant

[high rapids]

Kuki can probably work instead of zhongli for more electro tigh is a good dendro app..

[mint anvil]

!!lounge

[pale sedge]

https://i.postimg.cc/FKK137VX/Untitled-Artwork-7.png

[mint anvil]

Tigh likes the shred from zhong

No

[high rapids]

No, fischl is is better

[mint anvil]

Raiden is dogwater

[high rapids]

eme

be nice in ghelp

[timber wolf]

Not really cause for kuki to work you need to like literally hug the enemy

[mint anvil]

I'm being nice. It's factual.

Raiden aged like milk left in the sun

[timber wolf]

Yeah raiden is shit nowadays

[high rapids]

still. Be nice.

[mint anvil]

Her E damage was never good either

While fischl offers good damage, and now hex resonance with sucrose

[timber wolf]

I mean she was never a good character to use with tighnari

[timber wolf]

Wait why would you use sucrose there? Just for the em bonus?

[high rapids]

yes but you're supposed to be nice in ghelp, so say (x is better) instead of (y is bad).

[high rapids]

Ywah

[timber wolf]

Plus iirc her hexen buff only benifits ec and overload teams which isn't the case here

[high rapids]

Sucrose

Slightly more dmg with sucrose's buff iirx

[timber wolf]

Ok maybe they felt a bit too bad about it

[mint anvil]

EM boost yeah. Plus gives fischl hex stuff. Nobody else with hex is worth running in the team except for like, maybe c4+ Mona

[timber wolf]

They just deleted their original message

[high rapids]

.... don't point it out man...

[mint anvil]

There's not like. Many options for tigh in general to help him compete in a modern setting

These days mostly she's running tenacity, but in a pinch she can run winds set or golden troupe.

[timber wolf]

[high rapids]

yeah she'll be easy to build she's got a lot of options especially as you start out

Did you leave the game and just come back?

[timber wolf]

Wait tenacity?

[high rapids]

Yeah she can run totm

[mint anvil]

A LOT of people are switching her to tenacity for further buffs

[high rapids]

gt better for personal damage honestly

[mint anvil]

Use a crit bow if you have one

[timber wolf]

Just use stringless instead

[mint anvil]

She tends to go atk/electro/crit no matter what you're using her for

[high rapids]

i think stringless is better than slingshot for fischl i don't remember though

[mint anvil]

Pretty sure it is

Esp for agg teams

[high rapids]

Go stringless, and as eme said her build is going to be atk/damage/crit because she's got good personal damage especially at c6

[wind meteor]

what are the cahnces nicole/sandrone/prune will be meta in 7.0

god i started playing in 4.6 saying 7.0 feels so wrong

[mint anvil]

If you really like tighnari I suggest getting ineffa whenever she reruns, she and columbina are almost certainly the best tigh combo now

[wind meteor]

am i unc status now?

[mint anvil]

Me over here with my day 1 account

But realistically no, hex won't be meta

[timber wolf]

It is

[wind meteor]

i have a day 1 nte account

[high rapids]

Nicole is good in her archetype, so she will be good for those teams. Sandrone is new so she'll definitely be good. Prune works with the same archetype as nicole, so she'll also "work"

[wind meteor]

and a day 3 zz account i haven ttouched

[mint anvil]

Short answer is kind of. Bina and ineffa can carry like any dps to a decent threshold. Plus ineffa is a shield with off field damage that further helps his play style

[wind meteor]

what should i spend my resin on until 7.0 release

[high rapids]

uh, he still prefers quickbloom, but ineffa herself is a good electro applicator and shielder, so she fills a slot

[mint anvil]

You just play a weird lunar quickbloom team with all of the sumeru carries now essentially

Cyno, haitham, tigh

[timber wolf]

With bineffa is kinda becomes a quickbloom

[high rapids]

artifacts for your characters, maybe the newest as it'll be a snezhnaya set or at least a sandrone set

[mint anvil]

Unless you play like, klee, lyney, venti, varka, kinich, Nicole generally isn't worth it unless you're vertical investing

As someone who built him, it's not worth it 😭 even in lunar bloom it feels like everyone else is carrying a dead team member half the time

[mint anvil]

Sandrone however has a very good shot of being meta as she'll only get better in 7 onward

[high rapids]

Durin.

Lohen.

There's almost always a better option than trav

[mint anvil]

I forgot his ass exists. Durin and Nicole are a package deal going without saying, since all those teams but klee also want him

[high rapids]

But dendro mc works if you don't have a better one

[high rapids]

😭 I just need good artifacts my durin team is gonna hit 150-160k+ dps soon trust

[mint anvil]

Yeah there's no lunar triggering for traveler. The only real f2p lunar character is Aino, who works as a way worse bina replacement.

[high rapids]

good

just get columbina (and ineffa) you're golden

0 struggles

That's what I did

[wind meteor]

94/171 at 35k hp is good enough for mualani right

[mint anvil]

Is that with the set bonus in account or without

[wind meteor]

she is triple crowned

[high rapids]

You can get any one of lauma/ineffa/linnea to form a very good core, though ineffa works best iirc

[wind meteor]

with bonus

[mint anvil]

Its alright, I'm guessing no sig since the cd seems low.

[wind meteor]

yaksche r1

[timber wolf]

That's a bit of an overstatement

Especially since you have both their sigs

[mint anvil]

I have bina + all 3 supports, but no sigs but binas. It's a little rough.

Ineffa is by far the strongest

[timber wolf]

Bineffa+linnea makes an awesome core

[high rapids]

Nefer is the hardest to use and the worst of the three, makes sense

Lauma is also the wordt

[timber wolf]

Too bad i couldn't get linnea

[high rapids]

I love lumi but ineffa is the most versatile

[timber wolf]

Ngl she is not hard to use just hard to survive without c1 lauma

[mint anvil]

Shes the least braindead to play imo

[high rapids]

dash cancels, holds, make sure she has enough dew, as opposed to NA E spams.... pretty easy to say who's the hardest

[mint anvil]

Doesn't help that trial builds are never great

Pulled my hair out trying to make kinich trial work for theater

The nefer one in events feels okay but it's not like, competing with using someone's real build lol.

[high rapids]

Gods can they hire a tc for it

the builds are always so ass

[woeful venture]

Hardest by lunar standards but god is she easy as hell compared to mav and skirk

[mint anvil]

Even if you just spam e ca q as ready you'll do decent damage lol. Even in the trials.

[mint anvil]

@high rapids @timber wolf do your job nerds (ily)

[long gorge]

hi genshin peeps (idk where to ask sorry.), how long would you think if you start from ACT I of nodkrai to ACT IX would take.

[mint anvil]

Very long. A quick Google search says like 30 hours and I don't think it even is accounting for the new one

[potent patrol]

Hi guys so like Im a returning player who wants to be like a meta slave and I accidentally pulled Nicole. Im currently thinking of using her in a team with arle,chev, and fischl but im wondering what move would be better meta wise a) pulling for durin or b) saving to get a premium team for the next meta shneznaya team

[modest sapphire]

probs the schnez angle altough getting durin cant really be a bad choice as hes gonna be the go to off field pyro for a while

[distant blaze]

ignore meta just have fun if u want to play meta tho save for whatever bullshit mech snez will bring or try to work towards zi bai premium

[potent patrol]

alright thanks guyss

[clear dock]

Please help me with the teams for stygian

[toxic quarry]

Hey guys just wondering if I should pull for durin or wait for mavuika, for context I am a newer player, I don’t have any of the supports for mavuika so I feel that it’s not investing in that team since snez is coming out, but I heard that durin is very flexible and I do need a pyro character. Another option was just saving for snez.

[dusk night]

Bennett?

[toxic quarry]

C6

[dusk night]

For mavuika you got bennett

I got durin but hardly use him.

[toxic quarry]

Yeah true, I just don’t got anyone else

[dusk night]

I'll just save up for snez if wishes count is an issue

[toxic quarry]

Yeah I guess that’s fair

[lavish vector]

In the Kinich team, would Emilie be the one holding deepwood?

[paper gust]

emilie deepwood durin can be on varka's set or noblesse

[paper gust]

like 35 days

same day 6.7 releases

[light iris]

If I have c0r1 varka c0r1 durin c0 nicole and c0venti, should I use elegy or his new bow on him in this team? (My prune is c1)

[high rapids]

new bow for dps elegy for support iirc

[ancient sparrow]

what is the watcher in stygian even meant to shill, I find it hard to believe that durin is clearing the star on his own

[high rapids]

Lohen

Lohen wants dual dps teams, his BiS team is Lohen Durin Nicole Citlali

[ancient sparrow]

I tried durin on the watcher and he's definitely not clearing the star on his own, I assume it's a nicole/citlali diff

also I have no idea if dark durin targeting is even smart enough to not target the pyro star

[high rapids]

Yeah you need two dpses for this

Both nicole and citlali help a lot

[ancient sparrow]

as in, he's not clearing the non-pyro star on his own either

[high rapids]

Then it's a damage problem he should be able to on his own

[ancient sparrow]

I tried neuvi/furina and yeah durin on his own isn't clearing the hydro star

granted not the best team for him

I do have nicole but lol not built yet

[glad storm]

If i only have columbina and xilonen. Then there is lunar crystallize , whose lunar crystalize was that? Columbina or Xilonen?

[high rapids]

uh. I don't know how that's shared but

you should be able to check with the miliastra damage testing stages

They have a live view that shows who trigger what and how muc

[high rapids]

Show build

[ancient sparrow]

I normally have him on wolf fang for serious content but I was just trying out comps and boss phases so didn't change it earlier, and don't think it would have made a difference anyhow

[high rapids]

Wolf fang is saving your crit rate

[ancient sparrow]

yeah ik

[hoary flame]

Hey i wanna play durin dark mode for vape/melt teams and i want to know how much dmg improve would be Nicole over bennet for the team?

[high rapids]

you need decent damage for those to break, iirc it's not just gauge. He's not critting without it and since you lose 41% atk with it, you don't have enough atk

[high rapids]

Nicole is his best in slot, as a hexerei dps he's able to maximize her buffs, especially if you get a hexerei on fielder (lohen)

No idea on numbers though

[ancient sparrow]

yeah I know it's about damage, so that's why I said I assume nicole/citlali diff, when I was trying out earlier there was more than half of the star hp left so I don't think improving his crit even keeping the same attack would do anything meaningful in this team

[high rapids]

hmm you can try with Bennett but he should be able to deal with it on his own since in the "ideal" team, he's the only one dealing pyro damage

....maybe it's the cryo that's causing difference

[hoary flame]

I mean if i get Nicole i don’t think i could get Lohen so that’s my doubt and i have another doubt what would you risk your 50/50 on Nicole c0 or durin c2?

[high rapids]

c2

Wair

[ancient sparrow]

I mean, I do have citlali and nicole (not built) lmao, it's just that I don't have any cryo onfielders that would like to use nicole

[high rapids]

nicole c0 is also good

[high rapids]

time to get lohen

[hoary flame]

Yeah so what should i get or what it’s better

[high rapids]

durin c2 is the best con ever but nicole c0 helps a lot too....

Can I get roster?

[ancient sparrow]

still got 2 weeks to go man

[high rapids]

stygian lasts until end of lohen's banner
You should try a different team

[hoary flame]

Right now the only thing i want for durin it’s melt or vape it’s the only 2 thing i like for him

[hoary flame]

Okey

[high rapids]

All nicole needs is atk without a hex onfielder, so yoi can try using her

[high rapids]

You only want to use darkrin?

[hoary flame]

Yeah

[ancient sparrow]

lmao yeah I'll probably just try a bunch of stuff until then, in the worst case I guess I can try moving flins team to watcher and try to clear the wolf with arle/kazuha

[hoary flame]

Can be melt or vape the one that has more dmg

[high rapids]

@timber wolf @mint anvil hello i need help

melt has better multipliers

[hoary flame]

Hydro and cryo units and i have xilonen c2 btw

[mint anvil]

What's happening

[high rapids]

durin c2 or nicole c0 for someone who wants to run darkrin

[mint anvil]

Nicole for the durin tbh. Is he already R1?

[high rapids]

Looking at teams I'm thinking c0 nicole

[hoary flame]

For melt/vape comps

[high rapids]

No, just c1

With pjc

[mint anvil]

💀

[hoary flame]

This is my durin right now

[mint anvil]

Why did we go for c1 over r1 or did we get lucky

[high rapids]

Yeah they dunno if they should get nicole or his c2

[high rapids]

c1 over r1 for personal damage

And getting to c2

r1 is team damage

[hoary flame]

Cause double legendary in the pull

[mint anvil]

Nicole is more important id say

[high rapids]

Try to get more atk!

[high rapids]

lucky...

[high rapids]

Yeah nicole then c2 then lohen

[mint anvil]

But like, I don't know shit about on field durin building. I only know off field.

[hoary flame]

My first double in Genshin on 6 years

[hoary flame]

It’s off field dark durin

[high rapids]

Still waiting for that day

Get lucky on nicole and c2

[hoary flame]

Should i use xilonen c2 for the atk buff dmg??

[high rapids]

Easy

[high rapids]

His best team is durin nicole xilo cit!

Even at c6

[hoary flame]

But what i play on field?

[high rapids]

cit

[hoary flame]

Better than vape mona no?

[mint anvil]

Nicole -> r1 -> c2 imo

[hoary flame]

And melt how much team dmg has?

[hoary flame]

And How broken it is?

[mint anvil]

This team is scuffed to begin with

Melt has better multis but worse options outside of citlali existing, unless you get lohen who is made for it.
Hydro has better carries for vape but lower multis and realistically you'd just end up playing him with either neuv or Mona.

Ultimately unless you wanna whale this patch and get Nicole and lohen, options are bad for either and durin is preferential for like, overload electro carries.

[hoary flame]

I don’t like ol at all

[mint anvil]

Like I ultimately don't suggest getting durin or Nicole at all unless you have varka, high invest venti, klee, lyney, kinich and want to play them

[graceful glade]

scammer

[gentle pilot]

Can i use gest of the mighty wolf on mavuika? And is it good for her?

[small sand]

you can use it, it's good but it's better on your varka.

[gentle pilot]

Okay thanks sm

[paper gust]

it's good on most dps, especially if you are using a hexerei team, but even good without.

[mint anvil]

Its just a stat stick on anyone other than varka really.

[ancient sparrow]

Lmao sry went to sleep last night but how bad does a neuvi/durin/nicole/xilo team sound for watcher

[mint anvil]

Nicole realistically isn't doing much for neuv there so she's probably replaceable with another hexen member or pyro. It'll probably work for fearless at least

[ancient sparrow]

I feel like durin needs the buffs tho

[crude imp]

what's the best team i could build if i get nicole to unbench durin?

[high rapids]

Mona vape with mona nicole durin and uhh sucrose, i guess

prune might also be a good option

It's definitely better with high constellation mona, but you don't have any other better team for durin's personal damage

you could also go overload (durin nicole fischl + electro dps) after you get one

Flins is better suited to lunar charge

Razor is an option, if you want to build him

[crude imp]

yeah could get chev next banner

thanks for the input!

[wet blaze]

who is nicole used with? i tried her out with varesa in the event and it was .. eh

[distant blaze]

great with varka and anywhere else shes just a side grade to benny afaik

[wet blaze]

so would benny be better than her or worse actually? or does it depend on the team

like, i lost my 50/50 and now idk if i should wait for alice or pull her just in case she's good with alice

[distant blaze]

depends on team

mavuika doesnt want that 3 second delay for non hex for example

unless with cons ofc

for alice theres is almost a 100% that nicole will be good for alice but from what is being said there will be no alice for atleast another year

[high rapids]

If you're concerned for alice there's always time to pull later

We don't even know if alice would even be compatible with nicole

[distant blaze]

lowk thats a hard question to answer well

both are good

[paper gust]

also for emilie, kinich, klee, lohen if you're getting him, varesa (since her buff is better than iansan and doesn't have bennett's circle)

but most of these teams aside from maybe klee are only really useable with durin. So durin is much more valuable than nicole, since he can also work without her while nicole is p bad without him

[timber wolf]

If your concern is just alice then currently she might not be playable in snez so you have an entire region worth of primos to save

Plus there's always rerun cause mhy will definitely rerun nicole if she is good with Alice

[glad storm]

Help me make team.

[raw citrus]

does someone has an idea how to get the remaining 33% since I need 2/3 pieces for the blue shield. I already spammed nicole's passive yet there are no puzzles/chests left. is there any quests there?

[high rapids]

you can try using the interactive map, and also the little section at the bottom also counts for it

[kindred crypt]

Which has better buff for varka

R5 ttds nicole or
Nicole with r1 xianyun's book

[high rapids]

there's also another quest at the main port, there will be three people talking

[high rapids]

nicole with xianyun sig

[kindred crypt]

Why tho? More atk for nicole in better than fixed 48%atk buff for varka?

[high rapids]

give prune ttds

the more atk nicole has the better her buff is, and since you can give ttds to prune/sucrose you get both

[kindred crypt]

Shes the last on rotation

Also c5 prune enough or stick with r0 venti?

[high rapids]

c5 prune

[high rapids]

what rotation are you working with? iirc it's nicole durin prune varka

[kindred crypt]

Durin prune nicole varka

[high rapids]

in this case swap the weapons

nicole ttds, prune on fav or the atk one

[kindred crypt]

Is this rotation better?

[high rapids]

in this one I never ran nicole's burst, so it worked

yours is with nicole's burst active, so you want her before varka since it's just three hits

[kindred crypt]

Why would u not use ult? Doesn't it add more dmgs?

[high rapids]

well nicole's burst is a dps loss with non-hexerei teammates, and I run her with both so I'm habituated to not bursting

it adds a little with hexerei on fielders

her damage is still negligible though

[wet blaze]

do we have any knowledge on that yet?

[wet blaze]

oh it's better than iansan? interesting

so what would that team be, nicole varesa mavuika chevruse perhaps?

with mavuika on scroll i supose

[wet blaze]

what does durin do for her?

bc i don't really want him

[timber wolf]

The only knowledge for now is Alice isn't playable in snez

[wet blaze]

oh interesting??

but like nod krai or snezhnaya overall??

[small sand]

[mint anvil]

Durin is an off field dps that just pairs really well with Nicole because hexen. Without, you're limiting your Nicole mostly to teams that also have mona, sucrose, or fischl.

[mint anvil]

Hex as a whole is a package deal. You kinda just get both nicole/durin, or none, unless you're like specifically pulling Nicole for klee.

[warm ferry]

wow

[small sand]

I'm not your bro 😠

[supple herald]

So I want a new generalist build for Mona. I just want to farm one artifact set. Do I just go Noblesse? Assuming Nicole will always have Celestial Gift and Prune will always have VV.

Or is Emblem better

[high rapids]

Noblesse

[mint anvil]

The generalist build is gift now fwiw, who are you planning on running her with that she's with prune and nicole?

[high rapids]

Mona nicole and prune should be durin team i think? Vape durin

[mint anvil]

I'm guessing that but like, in teams without Nicole mona will want gift, so it's worth having a set of it for her

[high rapids]

hmm one set noblesse one set gift then

It's useless if she's always with nicole

[mint anvil]

Sometimes you might be using mona/sucrose or mona/fischl

Everything is dependent on who she's being used with that she needs a generalist set

[high rapids]

? Mona fish?

[mint anvil]

!idp

[languid vine]

Depends on character
Depends on weapon
Depends on move
Depends on target
Depends on moon phase
Depends on your astrological star sign

It Depends™️

[mint anvil]

Sometimes stuff like stygian requires some wild combos man, maybe you'd end up running mona + literally any other hex and Nicole elsewhere

[supple herald]

I really dont want to switch sets so that I can fit any character in based on how I feel. Sometimes I will do the Mona-Durin-Prune-Nicole
Sometimes Varka-Furina-Prune-Mona(w/Prototype Amber)

So I guess farming for both is what I gotta do

[mint anvil]

For varka she could hold gift or noblesse tbh. Depends on whichever prune gets

[paper gust]

prune -> VV
nicole -> gift/noblesse (i think gift is better generally so you don't have to burst in a team where you're not using a hex dps which would be better)

[mint anvil]

You don't necessarily need vv on varka team since you're just shredding hydro for furina personal damage. Which nowadays she'd be on tenacity. It's better to just go all in on varka buffing

[paper gust]

varka would be doing good hydro damage on that team too though right? i havent played him outside of pyro teams so im not sure if they're different. I think noblesse would be good for prune in that team then with mona on gift since mona has a shorter skill cooldown to trigger gift

[mint anvil]

I guess. I wish I knew a varka main to ask I am not a varka haver

[sand parcel]

can anyone help me with the nicole tea party thing i will help anyone else who needs it too

[mint anvil]

#・event-link-spam

[raw citrus]

is my escoff ok??

[graceful glade]

No

[raw citrus]

how about this one?? (already enhanced by the weapon passive)

[graceful glade]

youre overcapping crit rate

[static dagger]

bro

[graceful glade]

scammer

gift

[woeful venture]

Usually gift but it depends on the team