#・genshin-spoilers
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Unless you specifically mean the "I'm sorry you have to shoulder this burden" part ignore this I forgot we were talking about the pyro archon not cryo, but still
Oh ,what I am saying is that she will need Traveler help
Oh
The way you worded it the first time made it sound like the archon will personally give the traveler powers, more than what we get from using the statues
Where can I read it?
Ask kogi if they still have it, I can't find it on google- I'm being flooded with the leaks of her concept design
But otherwise he's also talking about the pyro gemstone used as an ascension material for characters
"A pilgrimage for a wish; a battle to earn a name...
Burnt to cinders for a dream.
If the intention yet remains, achieved ▉▉'s truth he has."
Unfortunately the video of unused voiceline is no longer here
No, the stone actually is conversation between pierro and cryo archon, and all Pyro archon is about to give us is some info about future plot
What
Actually maybe idk
I've been trying to think of who she'd be talking to/who'd be talking to her
But yes, the gemstones are a very, very vague outline of what that region's story will be
And where is proof of that?
That is just a guess
Just like mine
Whatever she said does not look like it was to peirro
Unless it a flashback which I doubt
Read the cryo stone again,nothing about that suggesting it was just to Peirro
"Sorry... to also have you shoulder the grievances of the world." Keep in mind, we are in the final cycle and she is sorry we have to go through it
"Since you could endure my bitter cold, you must have the desire to burn?
"Then, burn away the old world for me" ,no clue,it either traveler or when she found peirro after he don't go with the abyss twin anymore
Also how would pyro archon give us the future plot? That is literally every the end of an archon quest ,an obvious one and to get to that point, mean we solved the crisis, which is war. So basically Natlan won the war then, and Capitano lost pretty much
Whatever it is,we won't just get some information from pyro archon but also power
If capitano is the first weekly boss,we will beat him with pyro archon power if the old voiceline for Natlan plot stay. Because every first weekly boss traveler always guarantee to win with or without help
Eh,just wait and see
Ok
lynette just blackmailing lyney and freminet to let her join in is the funniest shit ever
holy shit i hate production zone
why is every waypoint and story cutscene on a different level
the feeling of running every way two hundred times actively upsets me
Hm
THIS.
I dont even care to get the rest of it tbh. It's not worth it.
i think ii powered through
Are you talking about this old CBT voiceline where Venti talks about the pyro archon? https://streamable.com/vb1sv2 His lines for Raiden, Nahida, and Furina were all changed so I would take it with several grains of salt
girl literally just.. stopped fighting us. 💀 how is she the victor if shes the one that conceded
i mean at least she has favourites
so the trio gets to live :D
aight bet
I am a bit too late. But just wanted to take it off my chest:
Xianyun’s story is too wholesome! I can’t stop crying 😭
Aether & Lumine in the dream 
just because you stopped fighting doesn't mean you're no longer the winner
HOLEEE SHIET
2.2 PENACONY IS SO FUCKING PEAK WHAT THE FUCK
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
I'M DEAD
DEADASS DEAD
THEY DID NOT JUST RECYCLE THE STORY FROM SUMERU INTO PENACONY I CANT
IM AT THE SUNDAY PART
DEVOUT FOLLOWERS(AZAR/THE FAMILY+SUNDAY) DONT BELIEVE (NAHIDA/XIPE) IS GOOD ENOUGH, SO THEY PLAN TO RESURRECT THEIR OWN GOD (ORDER/SCARAMOUCHE)
THEY USE THE POWER OF INFINITE DREAMS TO MAINTAIN AND COLLECT RESOURCES FOR IT (DREAMSCAPE/NILOU'S SAMSARA DREAM)
Didn't really feel the sumeru parralelism
but I felt the cringe of MC's lines
like what the f is this
it got worse bc almost every dialogue option had like a cringe line like..r u not embarrassed.
it's so so bad
It's like the america tiktok ban affected them personally so they put all the cringe of it in the game lines
i could probably excuse the trailblazer is basically a child so the cringe lines are up in their alley?
since you know they were practically born a month ago or something
That's waaaayy too much, especially when in the past two worlds they never had that level of cringe
there was always a funny option, a serious one, and a contrarian one
here it's just cringe cringe cringe
i just kinda clicked whatever
im glad during the acheron talk they could only choose one option
bless
i think the whole quest couldve been a lot shorter, there was a lot of dead air and the last 20-30 mins felt rushed
Hello Ayato expy with Hydro Vision (2.2 spoilers, meme)
Sigh. I already deleted the spoilers there but I still got muted there anyways. Didn't know you're completely banned from saying spoilers for 3 days or so aka 'hard spoilers block'. I just 100% remember it wasn't there in past pins when talking about story
I was going to own up but I don't even get the chance to apologize, so now it kinda feels pointless
@weary oriole Regarding 'how to see pins on mobile' in TC channel
You have to tap on the channel name at the top
IDK what version you're using
yeah but the spoiler decree was posted 2 hours before servers went up, and it wasnt there during the last patch, thats why it was hard to not get muted this time.
we didnt know about the shd until it was too late
Is the "full-ban spoilers" thing new ?
Err, more like hard spoiler ban
for hsr yeah this is the first time it happened
i got muted for 2 hours too
today
because i posted blade in a suit
i wasnt aware of the spoiler ban
the spoiler ban usually only applies to genshin patches
this is the first time they applied it for hsr
The problem for me is now getting a bit glaringly obvious. I understand at least wanting people to mark with spoilers and the likes, but a hard ban spoiler seems rather excessive, especially when considering that people may not read the pins
were in a server of gacha people, they will click spoilers
I'm trying to recall now if it was the same way for Genshin having hard ban spoiler decree too
its unavoidable, gacha players have no self control
even i dont have self control, i keep saying ill save 10 pulls but i always pull at 160 gems. in both games

Sorry if I seem so abrasive but I wonder if people really are losing attention / reading span or getting soft
it wasn't like that in the past. Now I have to be careful and it's just bleh. I wanted to just post a memey thing but meh
Hope you're alright tho
Anyways, back to the actual topic at hand, how do you feel that the theory is true ?
Or guess I mean, about Misha being watchkeeper
he said it himself
I just started 2.2 💀
I have seen a bit of information in advance though like harmony MC
ok i need to stop spoiling people today
see you
i will time myself out for 3 hours
the story goes wild
I actually have no problems with spoilers but yeah. See you lmao
stay away from this channel
OK
Gonna be a little hard. I just saw snippets, not the full picture. I love story and lore. I'll try though
👋🏻
Did misha die
like 2 hours
thanks
the whole quest took me like 5 or 6 hours just fyi

I know the channel is #・genshin-spoilers but it's specific to genshin, we have an HSR thread under #・lore-basement but you would have to still censor new content for a week
There's also the #911794575599874089 section but I'm not sure how active it is and you'd probably have to spoiler content there too 

the tc mods redirected us here my bad

i'm getting confirmation as to what to do because, although the channel used to not be a part of lore basement, i am the team lead to this corner and assumed the channel was for genshin story leaks only when it got moved here
there's no descriptor for the channel like there is for #・lore-basement but for the time being, please refer to my previous messages until i get an answer 
there is also the option of joining the StarRail Station discord server (another server created and headed by uba) that's centered around hsr instead of genshin that has its own #・genshin-spoilers channel within it where you could discuss if you'd like
a lot of members are ones you can find in here too so there may be some familiar faces there for you to chat with as well
what if its spoilers involving both games, where does it fall under
named Micah
no i understand people pointing out the two lol
but mika isn't a spoiler for genshin
but the character is a spoiler for hsr
since it's a "new" character
assuming it's not ||mikhail||
since i haven't started the new story yet lol
genshin done lost their minds
the event couldnt have been more mid
i miss the irodori days
me when i lie
I just realise the twin bypass the barrier that supposed to keep other entity from entering before it was weakened and Narwhal got in
didnt the portal twin passed through was similar to the portal in that book quest domain in fontaine
seeing the number of descenders before that, whatever barrier it is, it ain't really secure
Plus Alice mentions "Teyvat's borders have grown fragile these past two years" in one of the glider description texts, so definitely seems more recent than anything involving the twins
Tbf,the barrier wasn't weak at the time ,like Alice said,it got more fragile after 2 years,also outlander,not descenders
If it isn't secure we would already see more outlander like narwhal
Can we not pinpoint where this area could be from this mountain?
These areas shown in image actually would be good. Big rocks to be explored on top, multiple small valleys area at bottom.
Why do people keep omitting the fact you can see fontaine on the opposite side of the panning
You can see mt esus and the waterfalls behind the dino
You wouldn't be able to see them behind it if the video was taken at that angle
Then fontaine would be behind the desert's mountains
It would mean the mountains from here would be way more west, right? Which isn't the case when you look at the map/environment
Are you sure that's Fontaine?

This person thinks Natlan is even further south and west of the 3.1 desert
from bilibili
You'd be able to see the fontaine mountains behind the farakhkert mountains if this was the angle, wouldn't you?
Considering how high the waterfall for fontaine is, and how tall their mountains are
I'm trying to take pics but since the view in the example uses so little accessible space to try and recreate a photo from the trailer, it sucks 😭
This is the best I could get smack dab in the middle but the view isn't high enough I think?
And the tree overlaps with the mountain that's supposed to be viewed on the right, where it doesn't on the trailer
Despite this being the center of the focal point in the example
It's why I'm confused and really wanna see where natlan is because I like taking before and after pictures 
I don't wanna take pics too south and end up missing most of it, but I don't wanna take pics of North if it's too south to be seen, and don't wanna take pics of the entire fucking western side of the desert because it's massive
Also gotta love mobile-grade backgrounds
So I think I agree with this one the most with what I see I guess, but still not entirely sure either 
And if those mountains behind the dino are actually part of natlan, then I wonder why they're adding spiky mountains when they already got super spiky mountains with fontaine
Nevermind, I rescind my concerns
Just checked webhu's screenshot here and didn't realize the mountain had so much more visible to the left of it
#・lore-basement message
I think this is the only screenshot I've seen anyone share that wasn't like mine where the vast majority of it was cut off 😭
I was wrong
Not sure, it could be a distance rendering thing where objects that are too far away simply don't show up? 🤔
Maybe
The Ranjit from the saurian quest says Natlan is to the West of Sumeru's Desert
We've known it's west of the desert for years though lol
It's exactly where west we're trying to figure out with all this
Watch deshret be part of natlans lore the same way he is with Remuria
Define died
Not dead per say, but unable to return to the real world/trapped in a sort of hive mind collective concious permanently.
he is in a way dead that jeht can no longer be with him forever and ever
but he still definitely exists
but not the "dead" kind of that returns you to ley lines
It's part of the job
yea but she didnt NEED to lie here tho
she was just talking to the traveler who she knows is nonchalant
so even if she told the trav she wasnt actually from fontaine, it wouldnt matter
i am from fontaine therefore i might have no ulterior motives because i just want to save my homeland vs
im not actually from fontaine, do not be suspicious of me and my motives here on Fontaine
no
it WOULD matter if she said it to most people but
trav doesnt care
even if she told trav she isnt from fontaine here
trav wouldnt give a fuck
just like they didnt when she said she tried to kill furina
"it's going to be black sheer, isn't it"
"yep."
Oh it doesn't want to send the image? 😭
There
The pink on the underside of the glove made me think "maybe they actually added a black woman" for a moment
But it's also an old concept so I'm wondering what she will look like when she's drip marketed
This outfit is cute honestly
I don't trust concept art anymore since Skirk
Tbf some of skirk's was very similar to the final product
With coocoo glasses on yeah
Welp another one that had nothing to do with concept
its almost like mihoyo ditched all the concepts on purpose because they got leaked
oh my god
at least hes still "alive"
no because caribert looking like this big bro to the twins 🥹 his message for them 🥹 i'm in shambles
He kinda handsome
that was it????
after all this time thats all the lore we got??????????????
it was just a load of empathy baiting
THiS WAS SO SWEET
HE WAS
I actually shed a tear
Alright guys, I will save my primos for the 5 of Khaen'riah Sinners. 
hey, does anyone know how to start this story quest to unlock imaginarium theater
cos i cant find the start
lmao
Guys, spoiler me the cyno SQ 2 in a nutcase, i wouldn't be able to finish the quest since i have someone else to finish it for me
Not playable 
I guess Loom of Fate allow him to put the picture of non existent timeline in traveler pocket
So the sibling is trying to achieve what Traveler can do in the endgame
Trying to be someone who can rival the world,change the world,create the world
Second half
For some reason
you have to be kidding me
Fun fact, the 5 sinners + dain are probably the 6 pygmies
Alice is really the link between us and everything beyond tevyat including the sinners
whenever we get in contact with her is when the game gets really serious
how many missable chests in the new AQ domain?
okayyyyyy so the entirety of the 4.7 budget went into clorinde's story quest
no wonder the trav quest had nothing going for it
clorinde story quest was so good
any language experts? what does this say?
she thinks she's jesus
"all memories of what happened here will be erased"
clearly remembers what happened there
Farewell Atossa.
I apologize
for making you know me
unwillingly.
Still I don't wish
you to forget me.
It seems they worded it wrong and it's only what happened after Caribert disappeared
BRO
IM GONNA KILL SOMEONE
i loved the new archon quest so much
but hate it so much more
I HATE IT WHEN THE BIGGEST EVENT IN A MOVIE/GAME/BOOK HAPPENS AND THEYRE LIKE
nah bro.. youre gonna forget everything once you leave
sorry XD
im going thru it rn
i dont know how many "just wait bro" 's i got in me
WHY DID WE FORGET SEEING LUMINE I DONT GET IT
IF WERE GONNA FORGET WHY DO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE WHY DO THIS SHIT TO MY HEART
guys
have y’all played the bedtime story archon quest (dains)
what if i tell y’all
yo
y’know the six pygmies from pale princess and six Pygmies book
instead of the archons,what if the pygmies are actually the 5 sinners + dainsleif
and the night mother is the abyss
damn dude
oh my god
thoughts on that
imo the 5 sinners + dain are closer parallels to the 6 Pygmies than the archons given the new info
quite close
even the night mother
but i hav to read it again, clownfish memory\ ffs
holy shit somebody is having the same thoughts as mine
this would be 10 times better if we wernt in these clown outfits and actual costumes
has anyone managed to translate this 
Farewell Atossa. I apologize for making you know me unwillingly. Still I don’t wish you to forget me
thank you so much i will now cry in the corner
frfr
wtf that looks so good???
the dialogue box and cutout
ye looks great now i want to do doesnt seems the quest its about random npcs
Should have been consistent and just have every NPC be Clorinde with a moustache, a different hat, and so on, if they wanted to go this way 😄
To put things to perspective we are more than halfway done with Genshin's Story. We're closer to Khaenri'ah's release (~2026) than we are to Genshin's initial release (2020). This video will be a summary and analysis of the 4.7 Archon Quest Bedtime Story where we finally get some answers about Caribert, the Loom of Fate, Dainsleif, and our Sibl...
I think the games leading up to us fighting Dain for control over the loom of fate and changing the fate of the world ourselves
Can someone explain the purpose of Loom of Fate in a simple way?
Why can't we go on a journey together with our twin?
Their answer is in riddles and I can't understand
What happened to the spiral abyss leak 2 months ago?
Oops
what
There was a leak months ago about the new spiral abyss like a new type of spiral abyss
isnt it the imaginarium theatre or sum
its out on 1st july
guys is it true that there will be chronicle wish on 4.8
and it will feature liyue characters this time
there has been no leaks featuring any details on 4.8 banners from reliable sources so far
however there are some expectations
its a tool
the half complete form can change memories
the fully complete form SHOULD be able to weave the leylines and completely manipulate them, but it loses the ability to directly manipulate memories
What does the twin want to use the Loom of Fate for?
We dont know but im assuming its to rewrite the world history and prevent the khaenhria disaster from ever happening
Ahh i see thank you very much for noticing my question 
yea we're not gonna know for a while im assuming
Who wants to see the collaboration of sanrio and genshin
So they actually pick two character for the skin Raiden and yaemiko are the two lucky character
There will be an event witch you will be able to exchange hello kitty tokens for the two skins
Each skins will cause around 2,500 tokens
Do we know why fontaine is higher than the rest of the nations
Was it always like that
because it looks cool
Isn't there other land at the same level? maybe it was an attempt at avoiding the prophecy 
can't drown me if I'm above 
look at this cute mf screenshot i took of the recent aq
Is it just me or is it that the forgotten man/woman is actually us, the traveler?
Don't answer it, i am doing the AQ rn
This quest is a weird one
We're having a sad moment of not remembering our sibling and this fucking happy joy song is playing in the background
will madame ping be playable
I dont think so?
Is it from Impact Mouse?
There was a leak this week that she'd be the 2025 Lantern Rite featured character
Does anyone know what will be the next elements for imaginarium theater?
Can Filliol and Nanteuil be found after Arle's quest?
hydro cryo anemo
columbina and capitano release when
there's furina flowers here???
Idk where you are but
SHE'S SO PRETTY
tis simulanka
very early on
this place is so pretttyyy
Ohh okay
Then I'm not surprised
The veluryeum mirage had regional specialties from all regions
Are the 5.0 item/enemy descriptions up or not yet ?
Same with Golden Apple Archipelago in 1.6 and 2.8 wrt local specialties
all the items and enemies are viewable on honey hunter but some of the descriptions are not available yet
some of them
WOAH
this is my first time taking part in the summer event
this is really cool
and so many freemogems 
huh
can't relate
I'm always in need for better artifacts lol
and with imaginarium I guess I gotta level up like 20 new characters...
Fair enough lol
I love the not-so-subtle Disneyland reference 
Hehehe
uhh since when does she have 2 tails
has anyone who already explored the new area send me a screenshot of the excerpts of bliss? i need to know how many pages i need for max exploration..
Since always
Hehehe
AKDHOWC
KAWUJFAWf
😭
anyone know how strong mualani is based on leaks?
holy censorship
Kinda looks like it's needed with that skin, jesus 😭
definitely not foreshadowing astral express here, yea it's just a flying toy train, nothing to see here
💀💀💀
She killed Neuvi
Probably domain related power,though it cannot last very long according to alice
Is this an aot reference 😭?
HAAHAHA
it is, wow I didn't see that
No she created simulanka durin
The real durin was created by rhinedottir aka R
The simulanka story is like a reimagined version of durin story if he didn’t meet a terrible death in dragonspine
Man….
Imagine Albedo is there instead of wanderer, literally doubled the angst
Wanderer is such a tsundere tho
aint no way they make durin cute as hell then not make him a companion or something
??? 
wanderer is perfect coz being able to relate to durin kinda saved him(durin) or smt
i hope they make durin meet albedo tho if durin will come back to teyvat as a cutie smol dragon
albedo needs to comeback too like wtf happened to his twin and that ending in 2.3 is so sus
this event had me like damn scara what are we???
TRUE
tbh im not really crazy about characters similar to scara
hes kinda tsundere coded
but hes the first tsundere that im really into lol
lol the only toys that made it out of simulanka
the story for this event was mid again
it only got good when scara came
the second one will never be topped huh
What second
GAA2
Gaa2 was complained about to hell and back though
I heard so many people argue that it was the worse gaa because of how much of the charm and chill from the first one disappeared in favor of more complex story and puzzles 
GAA2 story was peak but I wouldn't say it the best among other,I find them all the same,just different puzzle and mechanic
But GAA ost give more summer vibe
Also imagine Durin is second weekly boss of 5.x lol
Considering we never got furina act 2,mavuika with the old leak about||pyro archon giving traveler her power( with the fact we won't get pyro traveler make it even more convincing) meaning mavuika is LIKELY not the pyro archon,similar to furina||
Nostalgia bias I think
Maybe
I liked the original gaa for how relaxed it was- simple puzzles, fun summer beach vibes, cute music, a cute story, all that jazz
The second one I think people just didn't recognize it as it's own thing, and just strictly based it all around the original gaa- albeit the puzzles were definitely more complex than the previous one, a lot of which had to be done via tutorials made by others
They were two entirely different events, just reused and added assets
But I do agree that the story for it was good
Especially the look we get into Mona's past and mentality
And the hardships she's had to face in the past due to her career as an astrologist
mf the latest quest asking us to go around looking for a book
the scara parts were good but yeah the rest was mid, he should've been the first person we met instead of nilou would've made it better imo
im doing that shit rn and its so boring 😭 idk if its just the lack of voice acting or what but i do not care
itss cossosososoosososos annoying
wild goose chase for some dumb book like does traveler really have nothing better to do 😭
writer took filler patch literally
im literally only doing it bc i want to see scara at the akademiya
why cant hoyo at least pay for this to be voiced would make it more tolerable
billion dollar company smh
lmfao literally cause hes the hero
nilou was supposed to be that helping fairy idk why she showed up
other than to be like "look at this cool skin yo"
it was still in essence a summer getaway though
But the quests were mad introspective
Less summer getaway-y and more just revisiting an old location and finding out literally everything about it has changed except for a few mountaintops 
I remember they took the dodoco head to get there instead of dvalin but after that almost nothing was really considered a summer getaway in the story
i do have to say though, the puzzles in the current summer event are VERY reminiscent of the first gaa and i am really into it
they have that special simplicity to them that the beach ball puzzles had
and the cute little charm to completing them
The puzzle is fun compare to the last one,one issue I had is my controller stick drift make it harder than it should be
Put it in freezer and it doesn't happens too often but I am still worried to even touch my right stick
Rippp
how do you find or trigger the detective quest in the event
Kirara quest duh
I just finished the event book quest
what on earth was that 😭
it literally felt like a clown car
the cameos just kept coming for no reason
Your new players
https://x.com/natlandailyy/status/1816243694120423706?s=46&t=_3-YEmkHg-wYzINShHOxZA what da hell is that waypoint
Which one
goated quest
It feel like they spam bunch of teleport waypoint lol
huh
where lava
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Underground ,where do you think real life lava at?

There are volcano,but in 5.1
Ooo
did paimon and traveler's sibling never directly interact even once? did the abyss sibling or anyone related to the abyss say anything to or about paimon?
damn whatever happen to mare jivari
Nope
Abyss ppl too dumb to realise their enemy is floating in front of them
hah thats funny
Fellas, is it gay if your homie turns into a pinwheel?
Well,no one know that your homie is a fan
it's that time of the year again where i have to add another column
i wonder if the stuff after snezhnaya will need a new one too, or if all those characters releasing in 7.0 will just use already existing talent books
since khaenriah probably doesnt count as an 8th nation
they'll probably have their own talent books
it seems like each region is bound to have one
make sense imo
but yeah idk how they're gonna do the post-snezhnaya characters
i guess they could just put a bunch of khaenriahn npcs there and say they somehow avoided the curse and still live there in ruins
maybe
they could also go full ham with the enkanomiya/tsurumi island idea and just have a bunch of sentient figments or something
though I guess the population would still alive as hillichurls...
I think Celestia and someone like Skirk and Dain would be playable with new element
I also don't know how we gonna save Khaenriah but we did give mini durin ability to leave the fantasy book so it PROBABLY hinting our ability to do the same for cursed hilichurl
maybe the tsaritsas plan is to revert the curse on khaenriah cause she had a lover there and thats what the 7 gnoses are for
But it is pointless if she do that
so at the end of the snezhnaya archon quest in 6.x khaenriahn people are restored, so we can go there in 7.0
What can she get from it
just for a gameplay standpoint
The people might have a different view on the gods but I don't think gnosis can really help anything as it bring "misfortune"
Also ,I doubt she would use it for that only, Dottore had to kill all his clone to get one, signora death,all the fatui agent and whatever happened to them bts . I don't think they will be too happy
whatever the motives or the story
i was just saying that whatever happens in 6.x will let us explore khaenriah in 7.0
without it just being empty ruins
with actual NPCs in it
primordial katheryn, whatever
for gameplay purposes
primordial katheryn 💀
also wait would snezhnaya katheryn be human?
Was katheryne based off a real person?
Maybe,who know
Could be someone that died
Or it just an actual robot but the voice is from Sandrone
It strange that she function like a human,the only line that is pre recorded is the welcoming and after claiming reward
does anyone who played during unreconciled stars know if scaramouche and fischl had different dialogue when they talk at the end of the event quest? i started in 1.6 but im dying to know if they remembered eachother
Nah.
Tho Fischl wouldn't really have much reason to remember them lol
Scaramoche also "deleted "himself from the world
katheryne being a puppet controlled by sandrone would be so cool
meaning the fatui have been spying on us from the start
better attempt without snezhnaya and mondstadt speculation
the entire upper area is so weird currently because of how the lower waters above fontaine have to connect to snezhnaya and mondstadt
Holy shit it's Australia
i hope they never put spider enemies into this game
They did though
Back in 1.0
We just never got more
Except for maybe in a few choice locations
still trying to draw the outline of some things that are already in the map and jesus christ, the entire area around dvalins tower is such a clusterfuck
what am i even looking at
why is this river shaped like that
how is dornman port going to connect to ANYTHING in this game
by all logic, dornman port has to be north of the beach where we start the game
but then it cant connect to snezhnaya, unless snezhnaya is on another continent up north
i am so lost
can lakes be connected to oceans? that could work
alright here is my final attempt at what teyvat could look like in the end, including dornman port and a port in snezhnaya
according to google, lakes can be connected to the ocean via rivers, but otherwise they are a separated body of water
then cider lake could just connect to the water north of fontaine
this looks like a dude flexing with both arms up
why he so ugly lookin
who?
Mr map
ohh
Sumeru looks so comically big compared to the other regions
it's probably because his left arm is double the size of his waist
the desert just balloon's the arm up 😭
Huh
I wonder what the other three tribes of Natlan are like.
This is looking in the direction of stormterror's lair not natlan
You can see the tower
i was really confused as to where they were looking since it's facing east not west
We know now that Natlan is located west of 3.4 desert although I haven't checked what placeholder landforms are there
this is what's over there
the photos taken from sumidra coast and the west side of mt damavand
So that's where Natlan will be?
Ah, imagine seeing a giant dragon come flying once we enter Natlan.
yeee
roughly
i should take updated pictures
these were before the leaks for natlan even started, including the map ones
Really? Interesting.
ye
there was just the in-game dialogue to go off of which stated natlan is west of sumeru's desert
so i went as west as i could to take screenshots lol
the desert screenshots were from these cliffs and looking out into that black area, so on second thought i think they're actually perfect for a comparison
So... it's right over where the Desert of Hadrameth is? Y'know..the one where there is a heavy sandstorm around that area...?
assuming this map stitch is accurate
those cliffs should be where we enter natlan from, essentially
the hole? 😭
Wait, wait, I didn't mean that as literally we'll fall into a hole. I just don't know exactly how this will turn out.
Plus, I feel like the storm separates the land of Natlan for some reason. Maybe it's just me.
Since we've been told no people from Natlan have ever left their nation.
Like, at all...'^'
Well, except for Venessa and her tribe years back.
we have pictures y'all
?
Wow it looks amazing and accurate.
not perfectly cut together, just move it more to the right for a bit
there are also paint-style drawings of the out of bounds areas from 5.1 and 5.2
Makes sense. Also, there was a teleport waypoint close to that point in the desert. The one @paper warren showed. We may be going underground again like we did in the chasm where we enter into Sumeru the first time.
i think they are just gonna add a new teleport waypoint like in 4.0
so we dont have to awkwardly walk to the entrace
That would be nice. But I don't mind walking to the entrance. It makes it more thrilling.
Thanks I was trying to find it but couldn't
nice
it annoys me to no end that we get this narrow entrance once again
just give us the rest of the desert, put some chests there and be done with it
jesus christ
its north sumeru all over again
the water between Sumeru desert and Natlan is super shallow btw
they'll fill it in eventually like the ditto hole
thats exactly the problem
they waited too long and then there was just nothing there
why wait
why make the map be in such an ugly shape
if you go to the official mihoyo map tool and activate every single item to be shown, you will notice that northern sumeru severly lacks stuff
its so half assed

I think they simply ran out of time
not the first time it's happened either
the section of sumeru north of the original mawtiyima forest that connects to chenyu vale is empty as hell
i am still coping and hope they will add content to that specific area in the future in form of underground khaenriah
since it actually lines up with the entrance from 3.6

Has anyone noticed in Kinich leaks when he's in idle mode that he has like this watch that shows the three Saurians? That's really cool and gives that gaming/techno vibes a bit.
Iirc it's supposed to have a mechanic attached to it
But I forgot exactly what the mechanic was
A mechanic? I don’t think I saw it.
Something about which saurians you see on his idle
Oooh yeah I know that one.
Is it about you transform into them?
oh madam ping mentioned
has someone finshed simulanka and can tell me what spoilers for the fontaine archon quest there are?
because the game gave a warming at the beginning that there would be spoilers
like i remember the chevreuse shooting/hollywood movie event told us about furina not being archon anymore right at the beginning
I'm not sure, since the game didn't give me that warning and I don't recall any spoilers for the end of fontaine's quests
It's been its own sort of thing tbh
Maybe because navia is in it?
But all that's really mentioned with her is that she's the president of spina di rosula
I wonder if it's at the end of the event quests since I haven't finished it yet 
wasnt she at the start of the game anyway
this is such a non plotpoint i dont even remember
She was like
In the beginning-ish
I can't remember if it was act 1 or 2
But we meet her for the first time after childe's trial
is it true that kazuha and raiden will rerun in 5.0?
I highly doubt it if they currently have mualani and kinich unless there's another one of those region-specific character banners
Oh wait I forgot we have four banners per patch 😭
Idk maybe
Current leaks state ||Mualani Kazuha first phase and Kinich Raiden second phase||
Why did they put raiden in 5.0 tho
She's always in 5.3
Why aren't they doing it in order
in 2.x she first released in 2.1, zhongli reran in 2.4, raiden reran in 2.5, and venti reran in 2.6
in 3.x zhongli reran in 3.0, venti reran in 3.1, nahida released in 3.2, raiden reran in 3.3, nahida reran in 3.6
in 4.x zhongli reran in 4.0, venti reran in 4.1, furina released in 4.2, raiden reran in 4.3, nahida reran in 4.4, furina reran in 4.7
it looks like raiden is usually reran in x.3 in later versions but is by no means "in order" if you meant by their release
looked it up because i was curious
Mihoyo always change their order every region
The plot, the expansion (usually after x.2) ,etc
man iansan in a 4*
unknown and no leaks so far regarding his rerun
I noticed that we met and fight harbinger from down middle to right,next cons is columbina and then Capitano, what do you think?
Right side playable left side non-playable (sans signora because please)
Wait, so how do I know who is who with this picture? Cause I keep forgetting which symbol represents each of the Fatui characters.
From the down middle,left to Childe is Sandrone, Pantalone,the rest is speculation
No it's just my assumption lol
Considering we've got 3 of them playable
But yeah, like kogi said
Oooh okay.
Oooh okay.
2 more days until Capitano believers meltdown
This early?
I feel like the weekly bosses don't usually come out until the end of the archon quests
And then again during a couple of story quests after the end of the archon quest
Can someone tell me what Mavuika is? 2nd life, what about her?
In theory a Human
All pyro archons post kaenriah are Humans
In the AQ is said that unlike the other nations, Natlans archons are humans not gods
They can also get old
But this is what we know right now, In the AQ is said that for example Mavuika is a human but extremely strong, possibly a human reincarnation of the OG Pyro Archon or Sovereign?
But how is she alive for so long? How did I read the mention of 500 years of events that she experienced? So as long as she has that title she is immortal?
God, why is Hoyo doing this, the same situation as with Furina will happen again, and people will be unbearable with the "human" fact.
A human can live long,especially in world of magic lol
She is not 500 years old
Probably only 30 or something like that
Idk what she is, but since Kaenriah there have been several Pyro Archons, and each one of them was human
And they have the same lifespan as humans
So Mavuika is probably as I said 30 o 40 years old, but probably is the reincarnation of the OG Pyro archon and Capitano knows it, that's why he said that
I don't like what they did, now people will say like as for Furina that Mavuika is not an archon but only a human even though it was always known that god does not mean archon
Well, people werent wrong with Furina
She has never been the Archon, Focalors was
Focalors had the Gnosis and she possessed the power of the Divine Throne
Furina is the same as Focalors, body and soul, Focalors does not exist as a separate body, she is only a deity, an energy
Furina was even god and archon for 5 minutes until she separated her divinity from soul and body
Furina and Focalors were the same but after Kaenriah they split up
Yep
That's true, but after that Furina was a mere human
Also, the playable Furina never remembered her being a God
Yes, but the worst part is that people think Focalors is a completely different person
Well, it is
They used to be the same person
But after they split up, both ended up being different beings
If everything went wrong, Focalors could only return to her body (Furina)
Furina and Focalors "the god"
Idk, we don't know that
It seemed that the only good outcome was returning his original power to Neuvillete
Without Neuvillete the people of fontaine wouldn't be real humans and and they would have ended up dissolving in the water
Well, I think it is logical, as the Divinity passed to Furin after Egeria, so she can return it to herself
Focalors couldn't make the people of fontaine "real humans" so that why she needed to die
No?
Focalors didn't have the power to stop the prophecy
That was explicitly said in the Fontaine AQ
That's why she made that plan in order to destroy the divine throne and return the powers of the Hydro Sovereign to Neuvillete
What does the prophecy have to do with returning to her body if things go wrong?
That it wouldn't matter
The point of everything is that Furina is the original, Furina as an oceanid was called Focalors, it is logical that the deity will name her body Furina because it would be strange if Furina thinks why she is called Focalors as a god
Also, you are just speculating, we don't really know if Focalors could return to her body or not
We should just talk about the info we have from the AQ, we don't know if she could have just returned to her body or if it was permanent
Btw, would have been stupid to return to her real body, she didn't have the power to save Fontaine
Do you read what I wrote? If things were to go wrong, the way she didn't plan
Not to return to the body to prevent the prophecy
I'm talking about the fact that Furina could have ruined the act and was revealed not to be an archon
If the plan didn't work she would have ended up in their Oceanid form like the rest of Fontaine
Likewise, if Neuvillette didn't create a feeling for people, that's also a bad outcome that could have happened
Wasn't it said that the archon would remain on the throne alone? While the others will disappear, that means she would not become an Oceanid
Yeah, but when she touched the Primordial sea water she was affected
So we know that she can be converted to an Oceanid
But while her divinity is present, then no
Was under a curse or returned to the body
Her divinity was dead when the flood happened
She was literally killed in the AQ
Haha, you're going back to what happened again, I thought you understood that I was talking about the outcome that could have happened if things went against the plan
??
You just said that Furina couldn't be converted to Oceanid while her divinity was present
I'm not talking about what happened in the game, but what could have happened if Furina messed up
And I just answer you that when the flood started her divinity was already dead
Well, she wouldn't be dead if Furina messed up
We dont know if Focalors could return to Furina
Or if she was trapped in the Oratrice
That was never mentioned
She could come back, that's the divinity, that's the least problem with come back compared to everything
We dont know if she could come back
That was never mentioned in-game
If she could restore Neuvillette's powers, she could restore herself to the body, she could only bring back the authority by killing her deity because that deity was mixed with the authority from Celestia.
She could not bring back her powers without killing herself, because they are an integral part of divinity
For example Makoto is a different case, her body is no longer stable, and we saw what she did in the end and why her divinity did not find another body
And Focalors already had her body and we know that after the death of the body, the deity is scattered everywhere and after some time chooses its new body
Why are we back with furina stuff again 
Paimon has always been sus
I read the dialogue again, Mavuika has been alive for 500 years, 500 years ago she placed her life within the Sacred Flame
That is, she came back from the Night Kingdom and this is her second life, I said well at the beginning
Yep
Another interesting fact is when Kachina said she doesn't know why the statue is Mavuika, like it's a coincidence
only redheads in black leather are allowed to be pyro archon, duh
what did you guys name the saurian :3
Rocky
I'm at the capitano fight yaho
The hair doesn't look bad at all, haters just hating
Truege
Nah this domain is cursed
REAL
Hmm
Mavuika sacrifice everything to fuel the flame
But on her table there is a out of place rock,I assume it will be used in future quest
Kachina piece
||CAPITANO SHILLERS WYA CUZ YOUR "GOAT" WAS BEATEN||
Big spoiler for AQ, click at own risk
Fraud
Anyway,Mavuika is thinking of giving Traveler an ancient name,I feel like we might inherited the pyro archon power

People saying he didn't use his "full power" on YouTube but they forgot Mavuika sacrifice some of her power to maintain the flame

All I’m saying is that we didn’t get the full thing
Huh
You can excuse it however you like
||But in this battle, in these forms, your man lost||

Really makes you wonder what dottore is doing at #2 tho
Bro doesn’t look like he used handheld weapons
Yeh but could he really beat Columbia in a fight
If columbina have the ability to basically turn off all his machine,yes
We need to see dottore fighting in action
||tbf he was ready to keep scrapping before ororon pullled him out but yeah my goat def lost this one. still tho, hes the first harbinger to actually fight fight an archon, and the god of war no less and "matched her in combat". also my goat is humble in defeat ||
Can someone spoiler me the pyro archon lore?
how many acts of the new archon quest are there?
Anybody would still fight back even after injured,the thing is he might even die if he continue,he got weakened by her attack and that was before she lost much of her power
She was a human ,she put her life in the flame and die(and become immortal),when she wake up the plan didn't have any progress because other tribe don't know about her plan. That all we know so far
definitely fair although its safe to assume that if the fight continued he wouldve entered whatever phase 2 he has. writers prob didn't want the fight to escalate anymore and just wanted to give the fanbase a taste of the two powerhouses in this region
speaking of his phase 2, would be surprised if capitano doesn't end up as a weekly boss considering every harbinger with like the exception of dottore has been
this shit 🔥
Abyss will be the weekly,just like how Fontaine was
Though Fontaine was more about other worlder
||The Captain got severe wounds, and as you can see Mavuika already tired as well. ||
If the battle continues, who knows? 
When did she turn immortal? And does she still has powers? And why is the flame important?
I mean arle still ended being a weekly, just not part of the main archon quest
Yeah that what I meant,but according to fatui banner,it will be Columbina though
The flame is why Natlan hasn't been invaded by the abyss,but right now there is no fuel to keep the flame burning, like I already said,she put her life in that special flame ,so now her life is depend on it,if the flame extinguished, she is no longer immortal or have the power
But she is the archon right?
Now I noticed that before she got archonhood her eyes were ordinary
This might be a stupid question but does anyone know how to revert back to traveller from saurian form? Idk what to click 😭
Yes, it doesn't matter that she's human, she's an archon and Nahida is just a branch so she's also an archon, people think a human means no power
And, archonhood is not the same as divinity, what it means to be an archon does not mean you have to be a god
Why didn’t we get the pyro powers when we touched the pyro archon statues
Yes
Plot reason
Mavuika thinking of giving us an ancient name,which is likely so we can inherit her archon power
If 5.2 doesn't have pyro traveler,you know we about to get big power up
Could be because of the current corruption in natlan
Tbh this archon quest pretty good it never drags (gets boring) for me
Same
And like everything easy to understand
Also the music make it even more enjoyable
I was surprised they dropped ode to resurrection so literally
Lol
It was an actual song
I haven’t played it yet but want to get into it with information yk
I think she will only share power and gnosis, not all power, but she will remain an archon
They only sang the first part,which is sus
Why doesn’t she want to kept it?
The song lyrics hinted that they will sing the song again to guide us out of the abyss or something
Natlan believes the power is in the people not the archon
Basically natlan has a humanity greater than one god
Oh ok
Yeah,it requires both the archon and multiple heroes from other tribe to repel the abyss
What does happen after the fight between mauvika and the captain?
Injured him
If mavuika "give up" her power to Traveler,it is because she see us as reliable + we can purify the abyss
Muvaika hasn’t destroyed the gnoisis yet but just removed all god powers from her
To keep the fire burning to help delay the invasion
Maybe it was be the last thing if we failed
If she removed the divine powers, how does she use them? I haven't gotten there yet
I’m surprised this is the first time it was brought up again but the past regions either the fatui or celestia was our problem
She didnt remove all her god power,she just used alot of her power
Well duh ,this is abyss arc 
I’m just surprised the abyss wasn’t an aq villian since launch
Mondstatd
Not major but it was involved
But if we are talking about the abyss itself,yeah
What i mean since launch is 1.0 so mond aq
Also i’m glad they didn’t over expose ajaw
Wait until Kinich story quest
He could’ve been annoying really fast
In EN dub he sound annoying but in CN it is normal ngl
Jp i don’t mind
Cause it’s basically just naruto
But ifl en player will get tired
I don't even know why Ajaw wished Kinich didn't get resurrected
I mean,if Kinich died Ajaw is gone too right?
Isn’t Ei stronger since she doesn’t get tired
The thing we haven’t seen a harbinger equal a serious archon yet
Venti doesn’t count cause he probably holding back alot
So rn we can say even the strongest of harbingers can probably be a challenge to an archon
But it probably a high diff win for the archon
If we talking about maybe the top 3 harbingers
But like...
Ei is like the fastest archon
If we look at Capitano speed,he ain't running away with that speed
And she can fight for years without rest
Yeah and she can cut space
Mavuika is strong but I doubt she is as strong as Ei because she is still an ascending human
Zhongli is still the strongest ,that why Tsarista make a contract with him and not sending any harbinger to fight him for it
Same for Ei, except they are trying to make a deal but Traveler stopped their plan
Wait . Why was mavuika was saying that it’s sad that she didn’t take a selfie with her hair lighting and it’s almost late now
I don't understand
She spent a lot of energy, she will be able to again later
After fighting . She was with the small electro elf character and told her that it’s sad that she hasn’t took a selfie of her where her hair could still light
Ah,like @mint harness said,it nothing important don't worry
I guess she want a selfies of her with fire hair
Oh ok
I just hope that she will stay the archon like Ei and Nahida and don’t Ende up by giving up on her archon title
I noticed that you think so, don't worry, she will remain an archon
After Furina, suddenly everyone became suspicious
Thing is,if the Abyss is completely repel ,Natlan rule will change..
Well I just hope she will make the new rule when abyss is gone
It’s just I felt like sometimes they tried to under power the archons and I don’t like that
Also in the first natlan teaser Nicola she was talking to the flames , do we know who she was talking to?
Maybe the original archon?
He was the one who started everything after all,it only make sense he is the flame itself
Hmm yeah,hope people now realise even the top 3 of the Harbinger can't beat an archon who is not even a real god so they can stop dreaming about them solo every archon
I don't think it matters if it's God or not, it's the Archonhood that matters in all of this
Speaking of original archon,we know we get elemental power from the archon, because mavuika wasn't a god but just someone with archon title,the original archon doesn't want to let Traveler use his power because the flame is burning out
Oceanid is not strong either, so when gets Archonhood (Focalors) has great powers
These two were leaked as designs for pyro archon, but that's obviously not the case now, so could she be Mavuikas sister? She even said she'd find a way to meet Mavuika in the future and her npc model has same hair colors
If thats the case then I think that Mavuikas plan to save Natlan is gonna go south and this girl emerges last minute and saves them. Could be kinda cool
She is dead bro 
Ik but she clearly said she'd find a way to meet Mavuika in the future, they wouldn't put that dialogue for nothing in the aq
I would for emotional moment
But if it true ,she would be in the Night Kingdom
Like the guy friend
Doesn't necessarily have to be the case
5.2 has no Archon Quest
Also, regarding the sister, Mahuika the goddess also has a sister
I also think she is younger like Mavuika's
What? Rlly?
I saw a leak that ||Natlan Archon Quest until 5.3 ||
That version is skipped, it was said in the special program
No new map either?
Nothing
I wouldn't say, something has to be as soon as it is skipped
Unknowm
5.1 doesn't have new map
Probably save for 5.2
Only then for the other region in 5.2 because there is no archon quest
I am still confused about that part,I mean they said there is major quest in 5.0,5.1 and 5.3 never said there won't be archon quest in 5.2
Major = Archon
That's what they meant
For example World Quest cannot be categorized as a major at all
I think something big will happen in 5.1 as soon as they leave us waiting so long
I don't know how I will stand it, I could barely stand the delay of the special program for 4.2 because we were all in suspense as to what would happen at the end
5.1 lines
One of the ??? I hope it's Columbina
am i the only one who thinks 2nd design actually looks cool
doesnt fit with mavuikas personality but design looks good






