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I had this thought as well
I named him Kuni lmao
And uh, I wanted to ask, whose voice was that at the end?
Scared the hell outta me
Lol
Yeaa. I thought that was the unknown god or some shit 
I don't think we're supposed to know
Yeah that could be it
Yup yup. Just speculating is fun
It doesn't sound like any of the remaining archons cause how would they even know of the broken vase
My speculation is Istaroth
Yeah that makes sense as well
I wanted to hear all the sus characters’ voices we know so far lmao
I went like. Maybe that’s signora even

But yeah. I doubt it’s someone that appeared in the game
Directly at least
Some are saying it sounds like the narrator in the "glider guide" cutscene in Amber's story quest
Damn
You can watch the said cutscene again from here
who would yae give the electro gnosis to and why after the scara wipe i wonder 
so many questions, i hope mihoyo elaborates on them further 😭
In Act 5 of the Sumeru archon quest, I thought Rukkhadevata still existed & only the people's memories would change. But with the interlude quest, from what I understood, it appears that Scaramouche really was erased? Because his previous actions were done by different people instead. And he became an entirely new person. Or maybe it's only the people's memories that changed again?
skipping work to go play cards smh
I've decided to name him LostThe5050 because he didn't come home
guys i named scara as "buers_2nd_sage" is that lore accurate
Time to end this once and for all
I AM NO LONGER AFRAID
HAVE AT THEE, WITCH!
HAVE AT THEE, GOD!
YO WTF LUMINE JUST SPOKE
god wtf her JP voice is a tad bit to high lmfao
OKAY
Wait
this isn't general
Lmao
Just finished the archon quest
||changing irminsul doesn't change the past, right? Just data - memories and records of the past. So why was Traveler confused when the vase at the end was still broken?||
lmaooo it kind of made me like 😳 when he called us by name
not me being impressed with the bare minimum
honestly compared to some of the other jp female voices lumine's isn't even that high lol
Compared to her character?
She's the only one off-putting so far
nah i heavily disagree, she has one of the least annoying sounding female jp voices to me
Can someone summarise what did scaramouche did to himself
I dont get his story
How did he get a new outfit?
Something something Irminsul
imo the new outfit wanderer is basically what nahida is to rhukka
a reincarnation, thats what nahida kept calling him
but she gave him the old scara's memories
so now he's like.. both
it would be like if nahida had been given all of rhukka's memories or something
rhukka said a person can never fully be erased which is why she made sure nahida existed before she attempted to make the world forget her
scara probably didnt realize he had to do this so when he wiped himself out another version of him just appeared somewhere in the world basically
but without his old memories
Where is leak room?
nice try mihoyo employee
i liked it too, but i think current scara is basically a mix of that one and the old one
No i just need al haitham leak
HIS REBORN PERsonality is so cute i would love to bully him
It would've been such a copout if they kept the Wanderer identity. I'm glad he chose to revert to his old self
verify yourself
get to p10 and then leaks will open
i think current scara is a combo bc i dont think old scara would have saved or tried to protect traveler like he did.. or maybe he would have after they helped him, idk honestly. but either way glad he didn't totally lose his jerk side
Cant find verify room
I think he's back to his old self. The new one was just a blank slate
Could you tag me?
yeah but what i mean is that current scara must still have the memories of like traveler helping him and doing the stuff he did as that blank slate
well i guess thats obvious since in his voicelines he says he intends to repay their kindness towards him
its the whole reason he joins them
I mean he was already pretty levelheaded at the beginning of the quest but with his usual sprinkle of jerkness
IS THERE ANY SMALL CHANCE SHES ALIVE
yeah that's true, he was actually being pretty nice for him
Scaradouche
i named him fuuma
i'm thinking about naming him 1000-7
It's cool that we can basically call him anything (as long as it's not vulgar & offensive)
lol i think a lot of ppl will regret the meme names eventually honestly, unless they didn't actually pull for him, in that case it prob doesn't even matter
Idk
Yeah I didn't pull for him
i already have friends who are regretting naming him something stupid
ngl scarface kinda goes hard for him
Anyways
Just don't use the one-time renaming gadget if you're not sure yet
I've finished the quest finally
i picked fuuma bc i liked the meaning of like wind + truth
since in the quest he learned the truth about his past and stuff
I think it's weird that Kunikuzushi was never mentioned in the quest
well he kind of was, kunikuzushi is just the name he gave himself after he finished killing the raiden gokaden lol
That was after he became Scaramouche, right?
before
Oh. I didn't know he was that powerful already
It was the bladesmith clans, I think
it goes uh.. first he was nobody bc ei didn't give him a name. then he was called kabukimono which means like "eccentric" or "curiosity", then all the mikage furnace stuff happened, then the stuff with that boy dying, and then he killed the raiden gokkaden and started calling himself kunikuzushi (which means country destroyer), then the fatui took him in and started experimenting on him and stuff and named him scaramouche/balladeer
none of them are actual names interestingly
they're just titles
he never really had a name which is why him asking traveler to give him a name is kind of a big deal
He had a lot of bohemian rhapsody references tho.
fujin i think is also an interesting option
Yeah
thats why nahida says this
Since they're both resemblance of the real gods.
hyv lost the chance to sample bohemian rhapsody for his demo
Must've been really expensive
i named him pissbaby in my native language 😭 😭
they're millionaire they can afford a sampling license for a song that won't even be in the game, only in music platforms
Maybe the piano would fit a little.. but the rest idk
i named him this
I know i said i would name him hermit
i named him nothing lol
But
hermit the frog
💀
I don't think that would be wise just for the meme 
as u should lmao
ive heard ppl thinking that scara joining nahida/traveler is unrealistic but really if you think about it, they are probably the fist people to be kind to him in 100s of years lol. fatui tortured him and did painful experiments on him and now want him dead, why would he want to go back to them? 💀
yeah even after resetting he still doesnt deserve a name
there's a reason he got his vision at the moment he did
not yet at least
it was his first time doing something good and selfless and thinking/caring about someone else in probably a very long time
I just thought it would be best if i would retain his former name?..
He should name himself. But that wouldn't be as fun
tbf his demo already goes hard enough. the kannazuka inspired theme plus some trap music sound fire together
sampling would only mean adding a little reference
not using the whole song
idk i think its nice, it shows a certain like trust in traveler
His story in kannazuka is the one I'm a bit confused. Because there's so many names.
Is katsuragi and niwa the same person?
I hope they follow up on Paimon's nickname for him
No
i think its especially funny that he is happy if you name him the same thing as the traveler lol
he's like "you want to share a name with me?" and says its a good idea lmao
i just don't know how the sound of bohemian rhapsody would match. unless we're talking about vocal interpolation. imagine if there was "do the fandango" placed somewhere in the middle of the melody lol
I thought so because they were both shown.. their faces.. because katsuragi was killed and also niwa.
It's nice that they game him a specific voiceline for that
That's why i got confused
yeah im surprised bc i doubt many ppl would do that
I'm seeing a lot of people who think Scaramouche created an alternate timeline where he lived his entire life as the wanderer
I think what confused people is that canonically I think the trip to Inazuma during this quest took a few days at least, which people don't get. When we encounter Wanderer in the bazaar, it feels like it was instantly after Scara altered irminsul.
Actually it was a few days after and during that time Scara found himself in the wild, with his new false memories, where he encouraged the merchant that took him the sumeru city.
The inspector was Dottore all along
you just described what sampling means
i mean nahida literally calls him a reincarnation so that probably doesn't help people's confusion
They didn't really make it clear that only the people's memories were changed (like with Rukkhadevata)
It was explained by that mysterious voice though.. about things being change but not exactly.. kinda
Yeah
they're a slightly different tho. sampling usually means using the whole sound from a song and vocal interpolation means taking a certain lyric from a song and incorporating it into your own song
Wanderer is the incarnation of scaramouche that's why he was retained but not his memories
Same goes for nahida
This confused people even further
And rukkha
I got confused too when Nahida said the mecha god was empty when they defeated it. But that's probably just how she remembers it, not how it actually happened
like this does not sound like its just him without his memories, it sounds like she's talking about a previous reincarnation
but its confusing
That's what I'm saying ... That line
I thought Nahida just used that term to make it less complicated. So that Wanderer can understand it easier
the story at first made it seem like whatever he has done could not be unchanged, like his memories were gone completely
He did not created an alternate timeline.. he just erased his memories and others.. like peter parker
From spider man
nahida is a reincarnation of rhukka so its not like reincarnation does not exist in this universe
It's more like Groot from Guardians
Does that mean they are both the same person? Just different consciousness?
Yeah
Rukkhadevata isn't Nahida's past life. She's just part of the same entity?
i think he basically did what rhukka did but in reverse. rhukka made sure that her incarnation already existed before she attempted to erase herself, scara did not know he had to do that, so his reincarnation basically just appeared when he tried to erase himself. like she said, a person can never truly erase themselves, she knew that which is why she made sure nahida existed first
Idk because plants don't actually duplicate.. they replicate in real life
Like animals
the difference is that scara's reincarnation got his old memories back, nahida did not get rhukka's memories. but the same thing happened where history changed, people in sumeru now attribute everything that rhukka did to nahida
I think Scaramouche didn't know that you can't erase yourself. So Wanderer was still himself but without memories
nahida is her reincarnation, i mean in a way. they literally call her that at several points in the game
Rukkhadevata is nahida but because they are plants... Nahida is small like a sprout.. while scaramouche is not a plant but a puppet. They both got different consciousness from their past selves when they renew themselves.
yeah thats generally how reincarnation works
They don't share the same consciousness but they are the same person
But Scaramouche wanted to remember his past.. and was given his memories back
mindblown
damn
I still think Wanderer is still the same person but just without his past memories. Irminsul just basically gave him a new outfit
That outfit came out of nowhere tho
Yeah 
i do like his new design
also this does sound like he's lived a whole other life, unless they're false memories
tho it looks hella expensive for someone who doesn't have a job lol
"alll my soul searching as a shugenja" like what is he talking about the 2 weeks traveler was in inazuma?
Irminsul was like I feel like he'll get an anemo vision so let's give him an outfit that will complement anemo
He was like a fruit vendor for days
looks more hydro to me honestly lol
all the blues
Is it 2 weeks based on story?
Was this before the fight with his mech god self?
well someone said earlier that traveler's trip to inazuma probably took at least a couple weeks or something so i was just going based off that
yeah right before it
when hes telling nahida he wants his past life memories back
Maybe not cause the teleport waypoints are canon 
why tf does anyone travel by boat and stuff then? 😭
I mean only the Traveler can use it
He probably took into account the stuff that we said about his "previous life"
still it does sound like he had lived as that current incarnation for like quite a while
wanderer/babygirl/edgelord/kazuslayer/etc.
Remember when we first met Katheryne in Inazuma iirc. She joked about teleporting and the Traveler said I wanna teleport too. Then Katheryne said can't you already use the teleport waypoints?
i really liked this quest overall actually but i do think its complicated and something that isn't easily interpreted which is probably what is frustrating people. kind of hoping there's a part 2 of like, further explanation on some of the things ppl are confused about
And are connected to the leylines
It's in their description that the people of Teyvat don't know what they are or what they're used for iirc
The next archon quest will probably be with Dain already
There's no explanation of the voice either. It just suddenly spoke.
scara still doesnt have an actual story quest so maybe when he gets one
Some say it's istaroth.. the god of time
That's my speculation
yeah it says "heavenly voice" in the script for jp dub so like, istaroth or someone else from celestia is my guess
It would likely happen. He still want to get his revenge, specially on Dottore.
On his rerun perhaps
It might be celestia
If Shenhe gets one on her rerun, there's a good chance for Scaramouche to get one too
Or any among the first and second who came
lol this is why i cannot imagine dottore being playable. scara is on our side now and like we're asking him to trust us and follow us and to turn around and invite the guy that literally tortured him and ruined his life to join us too would be kind of fucked up. maybe it'll be some loophole where the playable dottore is just one of his segments or something
Yeah that guy is just pure evil
like he literally killed scara's best/only friend and cut his heart out of his chest while it was still warm and beating and then later put that heart inside scara, that is beyond fucked up and evil
Oh since he like experiments, how about you try being a good guy? 
all ~for science~
LOL right
Dottore seems like a villain who dies but also leaving a lot of damage. Like killing an mc or destroying a place.
I still don't quite get what happened after that. Why did Nagamasa kill Katsuragi?
Right? Katsuragi saved him from falling a cliff and he'll repay him that way.
did all that shit just bc "i want to see what happens when i put an evil heart inside a puppet" like.. lol he is beyond evil
yeah i think so too
Niwa's heart was pure but was used to absorbe the filth in the furnace.
Scaramouche didn't even know it was his friend's heart.
Because a lot of people thought the niwa left them by boat.
When in fact, he was killed by dottore.
Nagamasa went mad knowing he left them. Because that's what they know
That's how i understood it.
iirc it was because they found out about scara's true identity and katsuragi defended him while nagamasa wanted to turn him in as property of the shogun or something, but that might just be speculation
niwa and katsuragi are different ppl, niwa was killed by dottore but idk about katsuragi
wouldn't surprise me if he was responsible at this point tho
Damn
watch it was actually dottore disguised as nagamasa or something lmao
The one idk about was the reason of katsuragi's death
Is nagamasa the inspector?
I thought he's the vice armory officer
katsuragi was his assistant
they use the jp word yoriki but like
basically an assistant lol
Yeah. Katsuragi was saved by nagamasa. He treated him like a lord.
Basically the three other clans were slain by scaramouche.
Was it scaramouche? The eccentric?
nagamasa apparently never liked scara or trusted him once he knew he wasn't human
That's why katsuragi died. By protecting him.
but niwa and katsuragi did like him and didnt really care and saw him as one of them
Is that his two friends? Niwa and katsuragi?
i know that dottore never told scara this lol
I've read a theory last year about his friends.
dottore basically taught scara his worldview which is sad.
Dottore didn't actually told Scaramouche about his friend's heart. He just said it was a heart of a random person.
yeah he did tell him that it was the heart of niwa's servant that niwa had killed
Yeah i remember these are the clans. I confused raiden gokaden with ei.
Only the isshin and amenoma clans survived.
Isshin revived it's bladesmithing tradition. It was kazuha who revived it. Since he's the only remaining descendant.
If niwa died.. then who is kazuha's ancestor?
Did he had a son or daughter before getting stabbed by dottore?
@pun_rii I'm note sure if you know but the collected Miscellany on Wanderer is narrated by Alice's VA and not Dainsleif VA (Faruzan's CM is told by Dainsleif VA)
So maybe Dainsleif has forgotten about Wanderer too
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holy shit
why does genshin have so many details
niwa is still kazuha's ancestor but there were probably others
like niwa is a last name
Niwa probably was not the remaining kaedehara that time.
yeah he's not the one that got adopted into the kaedehara clan
the one that got killed by dottore was hisahide
the one scara spared was niwa yoshinori
later kaedehara yoshinori
bc he was adopted
But i find it weird. He has the hair color. If he's adopted, then he wouldn't inherit their genetic idk.
Alice is also an outlander. She would remember scaramouche like the traveler.
Hoyo really deserves an award.
Their attention to detail is phenomenal.

also
Alice jp voice is extremely similar to Elysia
Alice as the Elysia expy
We have truly won
I looked up Katsuragi. So it actually went like this. With Niwa missing, Nagamasa would be 2nd in command & would be responsible for what happened in Mikage Furnace. But because of Katsuragi's loyalty to him, he took the blame instead. As a result, he was sentenced to die by Nagamasa's hand as his superior
Bruh
I also thought about that re: Alice narrating Scaramouche's collected miscellany
Also
Yeah really sad
Help me choose
Did it say anything about them thought niwa left by boat?
Anyone has a video of Istaroth(?) speaking in JP?
Or they knew that niwa was killed.
Don't ask me about serious names 
Yeah they thought Niwa left to escape punishment
So niwa's body was probably hidden by dottore.
I knew it
It was written in aqaba's thesis proposal.
knowing him he probably absorbed the body or smth
Yo
Yep
He probably ate it
wym haircolour? the reason kaedeharas have that streak in their hair is bc yoshinori was adopted into the family
He probably used it for some messed up experiment
i just finished interlude. any clues on who was the unknown woman who speak at the end? 
Some say it's Istaroth
nom nom
Niwa also means two wings so it fitting since he flies
So orginally.. kaedeharas didn't had the hair color? It was niwa?
as far as we know yeah
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Gaph said it's CN Durandal's voice go ask them
what is this
it might not be the hydro archon
lot of ppl guessing its istaroth
I hope the hydro archon is seele
With velionas personality
I would spend so much money
script calls it "heavenly voice"
What's with the Honkai JP VA comparison? Do the archons have the same JP VA as the ones in Honkai?
otto iirc
If that's the case, then he probably had a son/daugther before he died. Most likely.
Well, it's only a pattern until it's not. Mihoyo likes to do whatever they want
maybe the archons are primarily female because all the honkai chars are Valkyries
Yeah genshin has a chaotic lore.
nahida does not really look like a theresa expy to me tbh
Ikr
I'm not fond of Theresa's concept at all
Let alone putting her voice on nahida
EN version is fine
I don't play KR or CN
I don't really like the comparisons. Some Honkai fans are just setting themselves up for disappointment when it doesn't meet their expectations. Just let Genshin be its own thing imo
Fortunately zenless zone zero is shaping up to truly be it's own franchize
Aside from honkai impact, star rail and genshin
And the new upcoming fps too
like i'm sorry but this is not the same character in different games lol
I like the look of that game. I wonder when it's coming out. Probably 2024 since Star Rail isn't even out yet 
besides the light coloured/white hair they look very different to me
ZZZ is already in alpha testing so fortunately it's within the next 2 years
Star rail will probably launch on March 7th
For obvious reasons
Yeah I've heard of that speculation
I like the premise but I don't like the gameplay. I've had enough of turn-based games
this is literally their first turn based game though?
let them do their thing
not everything has to be open world
actually
HSR is still open world
nvm
TERITERI
Meanwhile, Genshin Invocation TCG:
it's not a main game
guys isnt it 10 harburgers since scaramouche never existed
and one of the 11 harbringers were scaramouche
They're still 11. It's just that nobody knew who's the 6th. They will realize it sooner. Even gods/archons are affected by that. So, even the top 3 harbingers will forget.
ohh okay ty
The 6th harbinger is in front of them lol
i wonder if pierro and dottore still remember scara or have at least an idea what happened? because they seem too powerful to just forget scaras existence like the others😭
Nahida did forget. Theoretically, they also will.
Same goes for zhongli, raiden, venti..
yeah but it just seems so weird that even they forgot
i mean it is irminsul , everythings memory is in there
Only outlanders are not affected.
I'm thinking of aloy again
She's not canon tho.. or is she?
Idk
"hey traveler , what the fuck is a fatui , i just came here for vacation"
when nahida mentioned descenders i had to think of her😭
alice seems to remember his backstory tho
This could be the reason why alice did the voice lines of scara demo. Because she remembers while dainselif don't.
alice is a decender fr , or else shes so powerful that irminsul doesnt effect her
Dain is a citizen of Khaenriah, a country in teyvat. Even with his power, he's bounded by the rules of their planet..
i wonder if klee is affected by that but i guess she was born in teyvat
She's probably affected.
She's childish anyway, doesn't care about fatui business.
she probably doesnt know fatui hrabringers
imagine if she did😭💀
If she did, then the logic will still stand. She was born in teyvat, therefore bounded by rules.
i mean she can defeat all 3 of the boss fatooeys 😭
Any outlander, even a normal human would probably not be affected by irminsul.
The reason why the other sibling was affected is because when they fell in teyvat, the other sibling fell in Khaenriah while us as the other sibling mc fell in starfell lake, mondstadt.
Something happened there that made the sibling part of teyvat.
Or irminsul.
All we know is that pierro work with the traveler's sibling as a royal mage, in Khaenriah.
For some time.
uh
yes that is true
Thank you
i wonder who that female monotone voice was tho
it was not alice
maybe focalors or columbina?
who knows
we already know what Colombia sounds like tho
oh yeah her singing
forgot
Someone from celestia
Probably
or may not since it seems most if not all of them are asleep
I wonder if sleep keeps abysaal corruption at bay
The sustainer hates the two siblings. Obviously. The mysterious voice was explaining some analogy about change and time. It's helping us understand a concept which would mean it's a good guy. Some say it's istaroth, the god of time and that she is the last surviving shade of the four shades of phanes, the primordial one. But the reason why, all i know is the god of time is somehow still alive and connected to venti. As portrayed in the time and wind quest.
the voice at the end can’t be Focalors nor Asmoday bc, first of all, why would be Focalors of all people
we haven’t even seen this lady in game yet
Focalors is not from celestia
@stable knoll noticed you reacted to my post are you the one that created that cinematic trailer on yt?
she could also just be older than irminsul
i'm fairly sure her job is to record the happenings of teyvat
like how zhongli said
the only problem with the theory of "alice is outlander since she narrates scara trailer" is that she also narrated dori trailer
and she's def from teyvat
could be a red herring
dain narrates most since he is bough keeper with access to irminsul personally
so he would just search for data on a person through irminsul and just put it together
she's also close with dori i think
we dont even know when irminsul was created
phanes?
those books that were in enkanomiya
ohh
they were not in teyvat
and prob weren't affected by it
i forgot if they were obfuscated like how nahida wrote scara story but it didn't get deleted
the voice could also be rhinedottir
in b4 rhine dottir is also the second who came
do we know if rhine is from teyvat
yes i hope we get more lore on phanes and his shades in the future
if im not mistaken , then istaroth should be one of them
which would get us back to venti and mondstadt
venti and mondstadt in general are pretty sus
this is confirmed yeah
"paimons taking you to see the anemo archon first and there's a reason why"
that was hella sus
yeah mondstadt lore is insane and lowkey one of my favourite
and ventis statue???
„gateway to celestia“???
pretty sus if u ask me
Yes
I don't remember which post you're talking about though
can i ask something about the end of the new archon quest or is it too soon on this channel as well? 
BRO?
balladeer lines are back
on childe at least
same with raiden
?_?
they added lines back
seems like naming Wanderer "Fujin" is a common trend
named mine Fujin too
yeah i named him that
so i havent completed the sumeru quest like at all, but im also dense and i have brain damage so i wont understand anyway
but can someone explain to me why
nahida says the traveler is from teyvat?
well not the traveler there twin
iv seen that shit on twitter so many times
the abyss sibling?
Aparntly the abyss twin is recoreded in irminsul
yep
but not the traveler
wait
traveler is one of the 4 descenders
that just creates a plot hole
FaMiLy DrAmA
abyss sibling apparently arrived in khaenirah first
that doesnt make any sense
something connected to Khenriah
4 descenders?
the 4 people from another world who desecneded into teyvet
yeah
so the traveler is a descender, but we clearly saw their twin with them
???
Tbh the abyss twin probably else got corrupted by the abyss
so wait
this is all just a theory based around the fact that the twin is written in Irminsul?
yeah
hm
yep
that theory doesnt hold up tho
genshin lore is huge its bigger then my room
the quest confirms Pierro was a royal mage in khaenirah
who know maybe the abyss twin died years ago and something tried to copy them
is that Piero is one of the few survivors of Khaenirah we have
pierro? the first of the harbingers?
yeah
yee
i thought he was somehow connected
pretty obvious he’s from Khaenirah
as he has the same 4 pointed star eye as dainsleif and kaeya
everything to his design says hes from Khaenriah
similar clothes to halfdan, the notable star eyes
the half mask
so, now we know that kaeya, dein, pierro and the twin are connected to khaenriah, with kaeya being a descendant of their people iirc
now see
iv seen a popular theory that greater lord ku-what ever
idk how to spell it
is just nahida but worn out
rukkadevata
“She exhausted her strength and became that of a small child”
but with the greater lord deleted from irminsul, people forgot her...but why was nahida crying?
SHE BECAME SHORT THATS IT
and why was she deleted anyway
because she always wanted to meet her and be like her i guess
as for how she was deleted It was to purify irminsul right?
the simpler times man
from what i remember yeah
eleazar got cured n stuff
im assuming dotto-octavius had something to do with irminsul?
Dottore?
yup
well, that somewhat explains about the written part...kind of
but next question
so we know ajax fell down a hole while he was fishing
kinda i guess
technically he stayed outside for 3 days, but months passed for him right?
so he managed to survive there
but how did he get abyssal powers?
why are his eyes so dull?
how did he end up joining the fatui?
the reason his eyes r dull is simple
he got trauma
Well that part I am unsure but if i remember he met a person called Gold and they taught him how to use the byssal power
i can already assume his bloodlust and love of fighting is the affect of the abyss
dont take my word for it
no that’s someone else, Gold is just albedo’s creator
oh lol
"After being chased by tha pack of wolves and Bear, he fell into a bottomless crack on surface where he met some mysterious swordswomen. In those three months, the swordswoman taught Tartaglia how to pass through the Abyss unhindered and nurtured the ability of Childe's trouble making nature."
"When did Tartaglia fall into the abyss?
Back at a young age, he was described as fairly shy, but his personality changed drastically when he was 14: he got lost in a snowy forest and fell into the Abyss, a deep, bottomless crack in the earth. There, he trained with a swordswoman known as "Skirk", and escaped the Abyss after three months."
so her name was skirk
Oh skirk lol
i could tell he had some form of PTSD from the abyss but
his abyssal power is...kinda strange?
has anyone asked what the ABYSS IS
also
how did a child randomly stumble on a crack
that lands you in the abyss
how the fuck did he get out?
genshin logic
probably found some thing to climb on
i guess theres some simbolism to its name but
someone tried telling me that his vision is electro and that his delusion power is hydro
Skirk probably uses foul legacy herself

i stopped understanding genshin lore after 2.1
so much new shit got discovered man
from people to events
like the bloodstained set
i can only assume that was dein?
kinda late but I don’t think the blue part of dain’s face is a mask, that’s corruption of his skin
hmm probably BUT IT LOOKS SO FAKE
it probably covers like 1/4 of his body
it'd be kinda cool it was a part of his body tho
so unless its some sort of hardening on the outside of the skin
it wouldnt make sense
people say it’s apart of him bc of his arm
wait can I ask something
oof
But anyway why was dain the only one who didnt get transfigured to idk becoming an abyss mage like the rest
like from the looks of it appears to just be his arm that got corrupted
and HOW TF DOES ABYSSEL CORRUPTION WORKI
ok im done
technically
he wasnt the only one
we said before that pierro was also from khaenriah
kaeya is also a descendant
we also know that "hilichurls" aka corrupted humans were around at least 500 years before the fall of khaenriah
I just realized how creepy the lore actually is
aparently its the people that were deemed "unfit" for the leyline cycle
and the Sustainer (unknown god) was kinda just like
"eh, fuck em"
and left their souls to rot
am i the only one that seems a similarity to the boxes the unknown god uses and the blac and red cubes
that destroyed khaenriah
nope
or what ever nation that was
also
Sal Vindagnyr
iv just learned of this
it was what dragon spine used to be
aparently it was destroyed
"Several thousand years ago, a group of refugees from a land of snow and strife — possibly Mondstadt during the Archon War, since Andrius' power froze the land[2] — came upon a lush, green mountain. They erected a monument on its peak and established a civilization there, naming it Sal Vindagnyr.[3] They built their capital city and palace, the Entombed City - Ancient Palace, on the mountain. For a while, the kingdom prospered, and the people enjoyed the blessings of Celestia.["
I see
kinda
irminsul was also a large white tree
yes
so was a certain tree from honkai
and genshin might just be in the same multiverse as honkai
so these "Trees" must be something
else if irminsul ia tree from honkai thats means theres more imaginary trees
hm
could genshin possibly be an alternate universe?
the characters share so many similarities
not like bubble universes tho
hell, even their powers and weapons are largely similar
honkai mightve corrupted the tree from honkai and the bubble universes else have honkai
also i still believe venti is LARGELY connected to everything in genshin
and dvalin was seen there
hmmm the won with the second divine key?
that fuckin sly fuckhead has eyes and ears everywhere
hes also friends with the god of time
LITERALLY
yes venti has close ties with istaroth and is pretty sus in general
venti HAS to be connected to everything
VENTi
yes
"wants freedom" my ass, hes connected to so much shit
also i still believe the seven willingly give their gnoses to the tzaritsa in hopes she defeats celestia
yes barbatos from ars goetia knows past,present and future
venti said lightheartedly that he knows every song from the past, present or future
SUS
so maybe he already knows whats gonna happen
oh he 100% does
except maybe focalors
this is kinda annoying like come on
focalors seems to be highly loyal to celestia
yea
why dont people just tell the traveler rather then just siting there and being quiet
thats what i think too
i hope that something tragic or bad happens to us in fontaine
same
like loosing in court or idk
we need more character development
i hope a playable character we love dies
being judged by focalors
more depression
YES OMG im waiting for that to happen
focalors dying would be funny
i need the angst
I want to see more of the harbingers
like imagine being the biggest celestia simp and then celestia kills u
And we need dottore alive tho
i think focalors is gonna be the one to fight celestia the most ngl
since she prioritizes justice
else remember what Liban said
i wanna see someone die like
i want him playable and dead
so many characters have death flags
aparntly Fontaine is currently very dangerous
judgement is coming soon
fontaine is dangerous do to their energy shortage aint it?
yes which makes it super interesting to arrive there in the midst of danger
else isnt fontaine very futuristic
iv fallen down the lore rabbithole again...
technoledgy there is more advanced from what i hear
and this whole thing with justice
and danger
else columbinas scary
fontaine is industrial steampunk france if i remember correctly
even Childe has no clue why Columbina is ranked so high
Columbinas kinda cute....
i got high expectations for the doll one
Sandrone?
yes her
yes columbina seems interesting
she too
we know nothing of her story yet
if she becomes playable im putting her right next to childe but anyway
besides that’s she’s #3 of the fatui
alhaitham was never real
wake up
he was all just a dream
a figment of our imagination
but yeah I'm saving to c6 r5 columbina if she becomes playable
why does no one question the skyfrost nail from dragon spine btw
wait what
scara says that she seems innocent and like a „damsel“ from the outside but he suggested we stay clear of her
well what if I don't want to stay clear of her
ok, what the FUCK do you have to do to have that midget say "just dont mess with ehr bro it aint worth it"
i think we will confront her anyways
that was so good
because traveller attracts danger in every nation so far😭
they add all these characters like layla and candace that we never even seen before
but refuse to make other characters playable
its annoying as hell
at this point they should write a guide about how to become a criminal
baizhu sitting in the corner waiting
your guys think we're gonna be stopping a celestial nail or meeting asmoday again in fontaine?
According to triangulation, celestia is right above fontaine. And liben talked about how the people keep saying "judgement will arrive"
whos asmoday
stuck in the basement since 2020
Unknown god’s datamined name
asmoday is the sustainer
Asmoday, the sustainer of heavenly principles
going by the archon naming scheme, asmodius would make more sense but it's fine
hoyoverse let him out pls😭
my headcannon is that fontaine will call the traveler "Il Duce" and shneznaya will call him "Tzarevich"
yeah i wondered too why its asmoday and not asmodeus
OH NAH
I JUST STARTED THE NEW QUEST
THEY MADE AN NPC BRITISH
considering how so far

if u close ur eyes, ayato kinda has a British accent
all the archons have gotten a name from one of the 72 demon lords
Sawada is british bro why 💀
u mean the researchers at the beginning?
morax, beelzebub, barbatos
yeah
Barbatos, Morax, Beelzebul, Baal, Buer, Focalors
why does the unknown god have the name of asmoday
to follow the pattern of gods having demon names
like venti’s god name being Barbatos
the archons are named after the demon lords from Ars Goetia
it’s probably asmodeus but written differently or changed for some reason
like how istaroth is astaroth
i find it ironic that "baal" the head of infernal powers was an archon that couldnt fight and also used electro
and dont forget paimon👀
who happens to be the second ranked I think
only below lucifer
I wonder if we'll get a character named lucifer
asmodeus has multiple
she's also a giant fly looking ahh thing
people say that traveler may be like Lucifer
yeah it'd be interesting
I still think the traveler is the primordial one
im too hung over for this information that just entered my head
surprised we don’t have a Belphegor in genshin yet
i want the pyro archon to be nammed Beleth
yeah but paimon is describes as the most loyal and obedient demon king towards lucifer
thats sus
and guess who’s attached to traveler? that’s right Paimon
and Lumine’s and Aether’s names have something to do with light or luminescence
I think the pyro archon will be belial
tho im confused as to why venti, how was the strongest archon prime v prime, was named barbatos, which was only a duke of hell
yeah paimon is so sus
and even albedo in the 2.3 event said that😭
oh wait
the cryo archon is most definitely lilith
it’s barnabas apparently
her ideal is confirmed to be love from the scaramouce voicline
they fr named her bananas 💀
and barnabas is the name of a saint
i want astaroth man
Istaroth is named after Astaroth
Istaroth is the genshin one, astaroth is the demon irl
remember the wolf boss?
yeah?
whats his name again?
Andrius
i wonder if they purposely changed the named a little bit.
hm
and if so why
Andrius may be named after Andras or Andrelphus
for some reason i thought he was connected to androalphus
EYYY
same brain cell
but who is istaroth
like in the game
istaroth is the god of time
and possibly the voice we hear at the end of the new quest
god of time and one of phanes shades
she’s connected to venti
maybe the changed the name or purpose as a simbolic show that they can change and arent these "demons" but rather good natured beings?
idk
its my headcannon
on a scale from none to nahida at the end of akasha pulses, how much lore does this quest drop?
i still find it hilarious that both morax and buer are "presidents" of hell
the rank 6 seat of the fatui is now written to be empty for hundreds of years
Signora was the one who got the gnosis but still met her death
Traveler is the only one who remembers
i was thinking about that earlier tbh
like did he die when he erased himself? or did he truly never exist? i dont know how to explain my question here but do u know what i mean?
well, not scaramouche himself, more so his names
i think?
but that also creates plot holes
like miko wondering who the fuck she gave the gnoses to
why is there a random missing fatui number?
yeah, seems like the stuff that happens in inazuma was rewritten
signora probably
he was so plagued by his past that it had to happen
im not sure if he himself forgot, but he became a protector of irminsul anyway
all the actions he did and his names were forgotten, but he still exists
Kind of like erasing all of the worlds knowledge of him so he can start a new life
i understand that but the fact that nahida called wanderer a reincarnation of scaramouche threw me off because a reincarnation happens if the person before has died😭
Dude. Some streamer spend like 3 hours biting his thumbs over naming wanderer
yeah maybe im just overthinking things TT
I mean…. Uh…. Technically, what scara did erasing himself from teyvat is technically… you know
yeah
yeah
yeah u can
at the end of the quest
i named him Fujin, but u can name him almost anything u want
did he himself forget himself?
I named him Sosuke
Yeah
btw if you have him his name changed there too
He destroyed his identity in the process
u can get banned if u use problematic stuff
hm...so he was redeemed....tho i find it stupid
hes done so much harm
so many people killed
hoyoverse warns u before naming him
Not…. Really redeemed tbh, keep reading the AQ
yeah
and yet he just...gets a refund
not redeemed since he still has his regular personality
nah he gets his memories back
Meanwhile me just adding an accent to Scaramouchè for ease
thus kinda „merging“ with scaramouche
there's no way the tsaritsas name isn't lilith
note that all the weekly bosses except for andrius are all memories of the first fight we had with them
i named him wandere at first
Keep reading the quest, it’s less redemption and more “im addressing that what i did is beyond unforgivable, so i’ll face the consequences”
wandawa
and after the quest i renamed him to scarmouche
Game wouldn't accept Ritsuka as a name. I only prepared one name 🥹
“Ur a ass”
“Ik”
yes im actally glad that they did not mess up his „redemption“
not like raiden
a lot of people are complaining about it on twitter, but tahts just twitter being twitter
only once
just once
once at the end of the quest and then one more time before it's permanent
AMOONGUS
GET OUT OF MY HEAD
yeah basically
i got a question about the archon war and celestia
do keep in mind to not use anything offensive, etc because u can get banned
so we dont actually know why the archon war started, we just know it was so 7 seats could be filled. Those 7 would stay in teyvat while others went to celestia
correct me if im wrong by the way
sus
thats good to hear
i have seen a lot of people do that or just naming him babygirl or smt💀💀
yes
wait
this doesnt make sense to me
so there are "divine seats" in celestia and when ever gods are killed, a seat gets destroyed
and when someone ascends a new seat is created
cool
but the wiki says
but isnt that build like prison?
the defeated gods hid in the dark sea
while the 7 stayed in teyvan and rules
now my questions are
- why would they want to stay and rule anyway?
- who the hell is even in celestia if the defeated gods are still in teyvat
- who created celestia and why was it so sought after
- who the HELL RULES OVER CELESTIA
i think to answer most of that we must know what created the archon war in the first place
since celestia was there before it happened
and i cant imagine the simple reason to fight for the role of archon to be the only reason
we know they lived in somewhat alright peace
and cooperation
and most gods didnt even WANT to become rules
plus, tho "get the 7 divine seats" doesnt mean much because they arent even in celestia to being with
my only theory is that celestia was built as a source and connection to all the gods and their souls, or rather, their "divine seats" are and the one that was ruling threatened to destory the seats of the weak ones
and without the seats, they basically lose their soul
but that theory also doesnt make sense since we KNOW some only fought to defend their territory
and some didnt fight at all
i think we’ll @learn a lot more in 3.5 w the traveler quest esp since we’ll still be in sumeru and we’ve already gotten so much lore from here
i should really catch up to sumeru quests
even tho i dont really like sumeru all that much
I have a theory that irminsul is the wise mystical tree from the memes
maybe
but i dont understand still
who is in celestia
since we know the gods that refused to live under the rule of the seven hid
Irminsul real form revealed
also, i like how venti, one of the original seven, was the strongest if we compare primes
kekw
WAIT
IF TEYVAT IS ONLY 1 CONTINENT
Venti mad sus
DOES THAT MEAN THE MAP WILL GET EVEN BIGER?
like will we find another version of the seven that rule a different continent?
Nah teyvat is main plot