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weary oriole
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BROO

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😭

ornate sundial
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I had this thought as well

hearty prism
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I named him Kuni lmao

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And uh, I wanted to ask, whose voice was that at the end?

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Scared the hell outta me

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Lol

tribal axle
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RIGHT LIKE

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I ACTUALLY JUMPED ON MY SEAT 😭

hearty prism
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Yeaa. I thought that was the unknown god or some shit C_KEKTao

ornate sundial
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I don't think we're supposed to know

tribal axle
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had a feeling it could be the hydro archon

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i forgor her name

hearty prism
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Yeah that could be it

hearty prism
ornate sundial
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It doesn't sound like any of the remaining archons cause how would they even know of the broken vase

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My speculation is Istaroth

hearty prism
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Yeah that makes sense as well

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I wanted to hear all the sus characters’ voices we know so far lmao

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I went like. Maybe that’s signora even

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But yeah. I doubt it’s someone that appeared in the game

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Directly at least

ornate sundial
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Some are saying it sounds like the narrator in the "glider guide" cutscene in Amber's story quest

hearty prism
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Damn

ornate sundial
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You can watch the said cutscene again from here

bronze frigate
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who would yae give the electro gnosis to and why after the scara wipe i wonder E_ChildeCamPov

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so many questions, i hope mihoyo elaborates on them further 😭

ornate sundial
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In Act 5 of the Sumeru archon quest, I thought Rukkhadevata still existed & only the people's memories would change. But with the interlude quest, from what I understood, it appears that Scaramouche really was erased? Because his previous actions were done by different people instead. And he became an entirely new person. Or maybe it's only the people's memories that changed again?

weary oriole
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I don't think so.. she's in the cat's tail playing cards

lusty crest
rotund kindle
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I've decided to name him LostThe5050 because he didn't come home

neat arrow
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guys i named scara as "buers_2nd_sage" is that lore accurate

hybrid yew
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Time to end this once and for all

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I AM NO LONGER AFRAID

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HAVE AT THEE, WITCH!
HAVE AT THEE, GOD!

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YO WTF LUMINE JUST SPOKE

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god wtf her JP voice is a tad bit to high lmfao

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OKAY

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Wait

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this isn't general

marsh whale
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Lmao

stable knoll
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Just finished the archon quest

||changing irminsul doesn't change the past, right? Just data - memories and records of the past. So why was Traveler confused when the vase at the end was still broken?||

uneven turret
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lmaooo it kind of made me like 😳 when he called us by name

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not me being impressed with the bare minimum

uneven turret
hybrid yew
uneven turret
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nah i heavily disagree, she has one of the least annoying sounding female jp voices to me

dense tendon
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Can someone summarise what did scaramouche did to himself

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I dont get his story

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How did he get a new outfit?

ornate sundial
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Something something Irminsul

uneven turret
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a reincarnation, thats what nahida kept calling him

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but she gave him the old scara's memories

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so now he's like.. both

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it would be like if nahida had been given all of rhukka's memories or something

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rhukka said a person can never fully be erased which is why she made sure nahida existed before she attempted to make the world forget her

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scara probably didnt realize he had to do this so when he wiped himself out another version of him just appeared somewhere in the world basically

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but without his old memories

dense tendon
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Tbh i like scara new personality

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Without his memories

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He is real cute

tight kayak
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Where is leak room?

old lodge
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nice try mihoyo employee

uneven turret
tight kayak
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No i just need al haitham leak

dense tendon
ornate sundial
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It would've been such a copout if they kept the Wanderer identity. I'm glad he chose to revert to his old self

old lodge
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get to p10 and then leaks will open

uneven turret
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i think current scara is a combo bc i dont think old scara would have saved or tried to protect traveler like he did.. or maybe he would have after they helped him, idk honestly. but either way glad he didn't totally lose his jerk side

tight kayak
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Cant find verify room

ornate sundial
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I think he's back to his old self. The new one was just a blank slate

tight kayak
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Could you tag me?

uneven turret
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well i guess thats obvious since in his voicelines he says he intends to repay their kindness towards him

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its the whole reason he joins them

dense tendon
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Is signora really dead?

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Like 100%?

ornate sundial
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I mean he was already pretty levelheaded at the beginning of the quest but with his usual sprinkle of jerkness

dense tendon
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IS THERE ANY SMALL CHANCE SHES ALIVE

ornate sundial
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We don't know

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We don't exactly know what she's capable of

uneven turret
dense tendon
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What did u all name scara

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I named him cutie

ornate sundial
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Scaradouche

uneven turret
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i named him fuuma

dense tendon
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My friend named him cardiB

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Lol wtf right

modest silo
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i'm thinking about naming him 1000-7

ornate sundial
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It's cool that we can basically call him anything (as long as it's not vulgar & offensive)

weary oriole
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I know hermit was a good name

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But..

uneven turret
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lol i think a lot of ppl will regret the meme names eventually honestly, unless they didn't actually pull for him, in that case it prob doesn't even matter

weary oriole
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Idk

ornate sundial
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Yeah I didn't pull for him

uneven turret
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i already have friends who are regretting naming him something stupid

modest silo
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ngl scarface kinda goes hard for him

weary oriole
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Anyways

ornate sundial
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Just don't use the one-time renaming gadget if you're not sure yet

weary oriole
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I've finished the quest finally

uneven turret
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i picked fuuma bc i liked the meaning of like wind + truth

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since in the quest he learned the truth about his past and stuff

ornate sundial
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I think it's weird that Kunikuzushi was never mentioned in the quest

uneven turret
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well he kind of was, kunikuzushi is just the name he gave himself after he finished killing the raiden gokaden lol

ornate sundial
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That was after he became Scaramouche, right?

uneven turret
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before

ornate sundial
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Oh. I didn't know he was that powerful already

weary oriole
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Is the raiden gokaden nagamasa?

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Or ei?

ornate sundial
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It was the bladesmith clans, I think

weary oriole
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Oh oh wait

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That was the group's name?

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Of the clans?

uneven turret
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it goes uh.. first he was nobody bc ei didn't give him a name. then he was called kabukimono which means like "eccentric" or "curiosity", then all the mikage furnace stuff happened, then the stuff with that boy dying, and then he killed the raiden gokkaden and started calling himself kunikuzushi (which means country destroyer), then the fatui took him in and started experimenting on him and stuff and named him scaramouche/balladeer

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none of them are actual names interestingly

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they're just titles

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he never really had a name which is why him asking traveler to give him a name is kind of a big deal

weary oriole
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He had a lot of bohemian rhapsody references tho.

modest silo
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fujin i think is also an interesting option

weary oriole
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Yeah

uneven turret
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thats why nahida says this

weary oriole
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Since they're both resemblance of the real gods.

iron latch
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hyv lost the chance to sample bohemian rhapsody for his demo

ornate sundial
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Must've been really expensive

bronze frigate
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i named him pissbaby in my native language 😭 😭

iron latch
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they're millionaire they can afford a sampling license for a song that won't even be in the game, only in music platforms

weary oriole
iron latch
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i named him this

weary oriole
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I know i said i would name him hermit

glacial osprey
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i named him nothing lol

weary oriole
iron latch
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hermit the frog

weary oriole
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E_PoliwhirlConcern 💀

ornate sundial
modest silo
uneven turret
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ive heard ppl thinking that scara joining nahida/traveler is unrealistic but really if you think about it, they are probably the fist people to be kind to him in 100s of years lol. fatui tortured him and did painful experiments on him and now want him dead, why would he want to go back to them? 💀

glacial osprey
uneven turret
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there's a reason he got his vision at the moment he did

glacial osprey
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not yet at least

uneven turret
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it was his first time doing something good and selfless and thinking/caring about someone else in probably a very long time

weary oriole
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I just thought it would be best if i would retain his former name?..

ornate sundial
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He should name himself. But that wouldn't be as fun

weary oriole
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I contemplated for a long time though

modest silo
iron latch
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not using the whole song

uneven turret
weary oriole
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His story in kannazuka is the one I'm a bit confused. Because there's so many names.

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Is katsuragi and niwa the same person?

ornate sundial
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I hope they follow up on Paimon's nickname for him

ornate sundial
uneven turret
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i think its especially funny that he is happy if you name him the same thing as the traveler lol

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he's like "you want to share a name with me?" and says its a good idea lmao

modest silo
# iron latch not using the whole song

i just don't know how the sound of bohemian rhapsody would match. unless we're talking about vocal interpolation. imagine if there was "do the fandango" placed somewhere in the middle of the melody lol

weary oriole
# ornate sundial No

I thought so because they were both shown.. their faces.. because katsuragi was killed and also niwa.

ornate sundial
weary oriole
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That's why i got confused

uneven turret
stable knoll
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I'm seeing a lot of people who think Scaramouche created an alternate timeline where he lived his entire life as the wanderer

I think what confused people is that canonically I think the trip to Inazuma during this quest took a few days at least, which people don't get. When we encounter Wanderer in the bazaar, it feels like it was instantly after Scara altered irminsul.

Actually it was a few days after and during that time Scara found himself in the wild, with his new false memories, where he encouraged the merchant that took him the sumeru city.

weary oriole
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The inspector was Dottore all along

iron latch
uneven turret
ornate sundial
weary oriole
modest silo
weary oriole
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Wanderer is the incarnation of scaramouche that's why he was retained but not his memories

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Same goes for nahida

stable knoll
weary oriole
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And rukkha

ornate sundial
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I got confused too when Nahida said the mecha god was empty when they defeated it. But that's probably just how she remembers it, not how it actually happened

uneven turret
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like this does not sound like its just him without his memories, it sounds like she's talking about a previous reincarnation

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but its confusing

weary oriole
ornate sundial
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I thought Nahida just used that term to make it less complicated. So that Wanderer can understand it easier

modest silo
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the story at first made it seem like whatever he has done could not be unchanged, like his memories were gone completely

weary oriole
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He did not created an alternate timeline.. he just erased his memories and others.. like peter parker

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From spider man

uneven turret
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nahida is a reincarnation of rhukka so its not like reincarnation does not exist in this universe

ornate sundial
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It's more like Groot from Guardians

weary oriole
weary oriole
ornate sundial
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Rukkhadevata isn't Nahida's past life. She's just part of the same entity?

uneven turret
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i think he basically did what rhukka did but in reverse. rhukka made sure that her incarnation already existed before she attempted to erase herself, scara did not know he had to do that, so his reincarnation basically just appeared when he tried to erase himself. like she said, a person can never truly erase themselves, she knew that which is why she made sure nahida existed first

weary oriole
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Idk because plants don't actually duplicate.. they replicate in real life

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Like animals

uneven turret
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the difference is that scara's reincarnation got his old memories back, nahida did not get rhukka's memories. but the same thing happened where history changed, people in sumeru now attribute everything that rhukka did to nahida

ornate sundial
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I think Scaramouche didn't know that you can't erase yourself. So Wanderer was still himself but without memories

weary oriole
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But their consciousness are different from each other

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Oh i get it now

uneven turret
weary oriole
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Rukkhadevata is nahida but because they are plants... Nahida is small like a sprout.. while scaramouche is not a plant but a puppet. They both got different consciousness from their past selves when they renew themselves.

uneven turret
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yeah thats generally how reincarnation works

weary oriole
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They don't share the same consciousness but they are the same person

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But Scaramouche wanted to remember his past.. and was given his memories back

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mindblown

modest silo
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damn

ornate sundial
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I still think Wanderer is still the same person but just without his past memories. Irminsul just basically gave him a new outfit

weary oriole
ornate sundial
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Yeah C_KEKTao

modest silo
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i do like his new design

uneven turret
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also this does sound like he's lived a whole other life, unless they're false memories

modest silo
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tho it looks hella expensive for someone who doesn't have a job lol

uneven turret
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"alll my soul searching as a shugenja" like what is he talking about the 2 weeks traveler was in inazuma?

ornate sundial
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Irminsul was like I feel like he'll get an anemo vision so let's give him an outfit that will complement anemo

weary oriole
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He was like a fruit vendor for days

uneven turret
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all the blues

ornate sundial
uneven turret
uneven turret
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when hes telling nahida he wants his past life memories back

ornate sundial
uneven turret
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why tf does anyone travel by boat and stuff then? 😭

ornate sundial
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I mean only the Traveler can use it

ornate sundial
uneven turret
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still it does sound like he had lived as that current incarnation for like quite a while

weary oriole
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wanderer/babygirl/edgelord/kazuslayer/etc.

ornate sundial
weary oriole
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Yeah the waypoints are canon i think

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They have the tri-something symbol

uneven turret
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i really liked this quest overall actually but i do think its complicated and something that isn't easily interpreted which is probably what is frustrating people. kind of hoping there's a part 2 of like, further explanation on some of the things ppl are confused about

weary oriole
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And are connected to the leylines

ornate sundial
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It's in their description that the people of Teyvat don't know what they are or what they're used for iirc

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The next archon quest will probably be with Dain already

weary oriole
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There's no explanation of the voice either. It just suddenly spoke.

uneven turret
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scara still doesnt have an actual story quest so maybe when he gets one

weary oriole
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Some say it's istaroth.. the god of time

ornate sundial
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That's my speculation

uneven turret
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yeah it says "heavenly voice" in the script for jp dub so like, istaroth or someone else from celestia is my guess

weary oriole
ornate sundial
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On his rerun perhaps

weary oriole
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It might be celestia

ornate sundial
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If Shenhe gets one on her rerun, there's a good chance for Scaramouche to get one too

weary oriole
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Or any among the first and second who came

uneven turret
ornate sundial
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Yeah that guy is just pure evil

uneven turret
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like he literally killed scara's best/only friend and cut his heart out of his chest while it was still warm and beating and then later put that heart inside scara, that is beyond fucked up and evil

ornate sundial
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Oh since he like experiments, how about you try being a good guy? C_KEKTao

uneven turret
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all ~for science~

weary oriole
ornate sundial
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I still don't quite get what happened after that. Why did Nagamasa kill Katsuragi?

weary oriole
uneven turret
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did all that shit just bc "i want to see what happens when i put an evil heart inside a puppet" like.. lol he is beyond evil

weary oriole
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Niwa's heart was pure but was used to absorbe the filth in the furnace.

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Scaramouche didn't even know it was his friend's heart.

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Because a lot of people thought the niwa left them by boat.

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When in fact, he was killed by dottore.

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Nagamasa went mad knowing he left them. Because that's what they know

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That's how i understood it.

uneven turret
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niwa and katsuragi are different ppl, niwa was killed by dottore but idk about katsuragi

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wouldn't surprise me if he was responsible at this point tho

uneven turret
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watch it was actually dottore disguised as nagamasa or something lmao

weary oriole
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The one idk about was the reason of katsuragi's death

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Is nagamasa the inspector?

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I thought he's the vice armory officer

uneven turret
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yep

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he was an inspector

weary oriole
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Bro that's why I'm confused.

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These names.

uneven turret
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katsuragi was his assistant

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they use the jp word yoriki but like

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basically an assistant lol

weary oriole
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Yeah. Katsuragi was saved by nagamasa. He treated him like a lord.

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Basically the three other clans were slain by scaramouche.

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Was it scaramouche? The eccentric?

uneven turret
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nagamasa apparently never liked scara or trusted him once he knew he wasn't human

weary oriole
uneven turret
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but niwa and katsuragi did like him and didnt really care and saw him as one of them

uneven turret
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it's pretty sad

weary oriole
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Is that his two friends? Niwa and katsuragi?

uneven turret
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i know that dottore never told scara this lol

weary oriole
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I've read a theory last year about his friends.

uneven turret
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dottore basically taught scara his worldview which is sad.

weary oriole
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Dottore didn't actually told Scaramouche about his friend's heart. He just said it was a heart of a random person.

uneven turret
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yeah he did tell him that it was the heart of niwa's servant that niwa had killed

weary oriole
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Yeah i remember these are the clans. I confused raiden gokaden with ei.

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Only the isshin and amenoma clans survived.

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Isshin revived it's bladesmithing tradition. It was kazuha who revived it. Since he's the only remaining descendant.

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If niwa died.. then who is kazuha's ancestor?

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Did he had a son or daughter before getting stabbed by dottore?

sinful summit
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holy shit

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why does genshin have so many details

uneven turret
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like niwa is a last name

weary oriole
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Niwa probably was not the remaining kaedehara that time.

uneven turret
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yeah he's not the one that got adopted into the kaedehara clan

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the one that got killed by dottore was hisahide

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the one scara spared was niwa yoshinori

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later kaedehara yoshinori

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bc he was adopted

weary oriole
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Oh

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Damn

uneven turret
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yeah and that happened like

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hundreds of years after

weary oriole
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But i find it weird. He has the hair color. If he's adopted, then he wouldn't inherit their genetic idk.

weary oriole
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Hoyo really deserves an award.

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Their attention to detail is phenomenal.

sinful summit
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also

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Alice jp voice is extremely similar to Elysia

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Alice as the Elysia expy

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We have truly won

ornate sundial
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I looked up Katsuragi. So it actually went like this. With Niwa missing, Nagamasa would be 2nd in command & would be responsible for what happened in Mikage Furnace. But because of Katsuragi's loyalty to him, he took the blame instead. As a result, he was sentenced to die by Nagamasa's hand as his superior

weary oriole
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Bruh

ornate sundial
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I also thought about that re: Alice narrating Scaramouche's collected miscellany

sinful summit
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Also

ornate sundial
unkempt otter
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Help me choose

weary oriole
sinful summit
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Anyone has a video of Istaroth(?) speaking in JP?

weary oriole
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Or they knew that niwa was killed.

ornate sundial
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Don't ask me about serious names C_KEKTao

ornate sundial
weary oriole
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I knew it

sinful summit
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JP Istaroth sounds like

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Xingqiu

weary oriole
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It was written in aqaba's thesis proposal.

sinful summit
weary oriole
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He probably ate it

uneven turret
ornate sundial
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He probably used it for some messed up experiment

cedar hedge
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i just finished interlude. any clues on who was the unknown woman who speak at the end? A_BaldTaoO

sinful summit
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Some say it's Istaroth

lusty crest
unkempt otter
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Niwa also means two wings so it fitting since he flies

sinful summit
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I'm trying to find a honkai character that sounds like her

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But no luck so far

weary oriole
uneven turret
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as far as we know yeah

sinful summit
lusty crest
uneven turret
sinful summit
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if it's durandal

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it means

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durandal is the hydro archon

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im deceased

uneven turret
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it might not be the hydro archon

uneven turret
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lot of ppl guessing its istaroth

sinful summit
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I hope the hydro archon is seele

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With velionas personality

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I would spend so much money

uneven turret
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script calls it "heavenly voice"

ornate sundial
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What's with the Honkai JP VA comparison? Do the archons have the same JP VA as the ones in Honkai?

sinful summit
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yep

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nahida and theresa

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makoto/ei and mei

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venti/wendy

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zhongli idk

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hmmm

lusty crest
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otto iirc

weary oriole
ornate sundial
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Well, it's only a pattern until it's not. Mihoyo likes to do whatever they want

sinful summit
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maybe the archons are primarily female because all the honkai chars are Valkyries

weary oriole
uneven turret
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nahida does not really look like a theresa expy to me tbh

sinful summit
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Ikr

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I'm not fond of Theresa's concept at all

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Let alone putting her voice on nahida

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EN version is fine

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I don't play KR or CN

ornate sundial
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I don't really like the comparisons. Some Honkai fans are just setting themselves up for disappointment when it doesn't meet their expectations. Just let Genshin be its own thing imo

sinful summit
sinful summit
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Aside from honkai impact, star rail and genshin

sinful summit
uneven turret
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like i'm sorry but this is not the same character in different games lol

ornate sundial
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I like the look of that game. I wonder when it's coming out. Probably 2024 since Star Rail isn't even out yet C_KEKTao

uneven turret
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besides the light coloured/white hair they look very different to me

sinful summit
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ZZZ is already in alpha testing so fortunately it's within the next 2 years

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Star rail will probably launch on March 7th

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For obvious reasons

ornate sundial
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Yeah I've heard of that speculation

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I like the premise but I don't like the gameplay. I've had enough of turn-based games

sinful summit
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this is literally their first turn based game though?

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let them do their thing

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not everything has to be open world

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actually

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HSR is still open world

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nvm

unkempt otter
sinful summit
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it's not a main game

neat arrow
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guys isnt it 10 harburgers since scaramouche never existed

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and one of the 11 harbringers were scaramouche

weary oriole
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They're still 11. It's just that nobody knew who's the 6th. They will realize it sooner. Even gods/archons are affected by that. So, even the top 3 harbingers will forget.

uneven turret
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the new history is that theres a 6th seat but nobody has filled it in many years

weary oriole
blazing hollow
# uneven turret

i wonder if pierro and dottore still remember scara or have at least an idea what happened? because they seem too powerful to just forget scaras existence like the others😭

weary oriole
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Nahida did forget. Theoretically, they also will.

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Same goes for zhongli, raiden, venti..

blazing hollow
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yeah but it just seems so weird that even they forgot

neat arrow
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i mean it is irminsul , everythings memory is in there

weary oriole
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Only outlanders are not affected.

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I'm thinking of aloy againA_CryLaughTao

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She's not canon tho.. or is she?

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Idk

neat arrow
blazing hollow
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alice seems to remember his backstory tho

weary oriole
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This could be the reason why alice did the voice lines of scara demo. Because she remembers while dainselif don't.

neat arrow
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alice is a decender fr , or else shes so powerful that irminsul doesnt effect her

weary oriole
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Dain is a citizen of Khaenriah, a country in teyvat. Even with his power, he's bounded by the rules of their planet..

blazing hollow
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i wonder if klee is affected by that but i guess she was born in teyvat

weary oriole
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She's childish anyway, doesn't care about fatui business.

neat arrow
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she probably doesnt know fatui hrabringers

blazing hollow
#

imagine if she did😭💀

weary oriole
#

If she did, then the logic will still stand. She was born in teyvat, therefore bounded by rules.

neat arrow
weary oriole
#

Any outlander, even a normal human would probably not be affected by irminsul.

#

The reason why the other sibling was affected is because when they fell in teyvat, the other sibling fell in Khaenriah while us as the other sibling mc fell in starfell lake, mondstadt.

#

Something happened there that made the sibling part of teyvat.

#

Or irminsul.

#

All we know is that pierro work with the traveler's sibling as a royal mage, in Khaenriah.

#

For some time.

polar forge
#

uh

weary oriole
#

Scaramouche said it himself

polar forge
#

Thank you

blazing hollow
#

i wonder who that female monotone voice was tho

#

it was not alice
maybe focalors or columbina?
who knows

polar forge
#

we already know what Colombia sounds like tho

weary oriole
#

Pierro is confirmed to be a catalyst. If he becomes playable.

#

By scara lol.

blazing hollow
#

forgot

weary oriole
blazing hollow
#

could be but i doubt its the sustainer

#

maybe another one

polar forge
#

Probably

#

or may not since it seems most if not all of them are asleep

#

I wonder if sleep keeps abysaal corruption at bay

weary oriole
#

The sustainer hates the two siblings. Obviously. The mysterious voice was explaining some analogy about change and time. It's helping us understand a concept which would mean it's a good guy. Some say it's istaroth, the god of time and that she is the last surviving shade of the four shades of phanes, the primordial one. But the reason why, all i know is the god of time is somehow still alive and connected to venti. As portrayed in the time and wind quest.

polar forge
#

Some say Asmoday is one of the Shades

#

too

hidden whale
#

the voice at the end can’t be Focalors nor Asmoday bc, first of all, why would be Focalors of all people

#

we haven’t even seen this lady in game yet

weary oriole
#

Focalors is not from celestia

little turret
#

@stable knoll noticed you reacted to my post are you the one that created that cinematic trailer on yt?

little turret
#

i'm fairly sure her job is to record the happenings of teyvat

#

like how zhongli said

#

the only problem with the theory of "alice is outlander since she narrates scara trailer" is that she also narrated dori trailer

#

and she's def from teyvat

#

could be a red herring

#

dain narrates most since he is bough keeper with access to irminsul personally

#

so he would just search for data on a person through irminsul and just put it together

little turret
neat arrow
little turret
#

i think it was prob phanes

#

or celestia

neat arrow
#

phanes?

little turret
#

those books that were in enkanomiya

neat arrow
#

ohh

little turret
#

they were not in teyvat

#

and prob weren't affected by it

#

i forgot if they were obfuscated like how nahida wrote scara story but it didn't get deleted

#

the voice could also be rhinedottir

#

in b4 rhine dottir is also the second who came

#

do we know if rhine is from teyvat

blazing hollow
#

if im not mistaken , then istaroth should be one of them

#

which would get us back to venti and mondstadt

#

venti and mondstadt in general are pretty sus

little turret
little turret
#

that was hella sus

blazing hollow
#

yeah mondstadt lore is insane and lowkey one of my favourite

#

and ventis statue???

#

„gateway to celestia“???

#

pretty sus if u ask me

slender stump
#

BRO WHAT THE FUCK IS BALLADEER DOING

#

one irrational decision after another

stable knoll
#

I don't remember which post you're talking about though

whole dune
#

now i’m pretty sure Dottore is from Fontaine

#

i connected the dots lmao

tulip summit
#

can i ask something about the end of the new archon quest or is it too soon on this channel as well? A_GaspTao

unique crown
#

Yo what happened to the other leaks channels?

#

I can’t find them…

weary oriole
#

BRO?

#

balladeer lines are back

#

on childe at least

#

same with raiden

#

?_?

#

they added lines back

sacred dock
#

seems like naming Wanderer "Fujin" is a common trend

stable knoll
#

named mine Fujin too

errant lance
#

so

#

i gotta ask

hidden whale
errant lance
#

so i havent completed the sumeru quest like at all, but im also dense and i have brain damage so i wont understand anyway

#

but can someone explain to me why

#

nahida says the traveler is from teyvat?

scarlet apex
#

well not the traveler there twin

errant lance
#

iv seen that shit on twitter so many times

hidden whale
#

the abyss sibling?

scarlet apex
#

Aparntly the abyss twin is recoreded in irminsul

hidden whale
#

yep

scarlet apex
#

but not the traveler

errant lance
#

wait

hidden whale
#

traveler is one of the 4 descenders

errant lance
#

that just creates a plot hole

scarlet apex
#

FaMiLy DrAmA

errant lance
#

how the hell is their twin from teyvan

#

but the traveler isnt

hidden whale
#

abyss sibling apparently arrived in khaenirah first

errant lance
#

that doesnt make any sense

scarlet apex
errant lance
#

4 descenders?

scarlet apex
hidden whale
#

yeah

scarlet apex
#

the traveler is one of them

#

oop sorry

errant lance
#

so the traveler is a descender, but we clearly saw their twin with them

scarlet apex
#

yes

#

Thats why its so weird

errant lance
#

???

scarlet apex
#

Tbh the abyss twin probably else got corrupted by the abyss

errant lance
#

so wait

#

this is all just a theory based around the fact that the twin is written in Irminsul?

hidden whale
#

yeah

errant lance
#

hm

errant lance
#

that theory doesnt hold up tho

scarlet apex
#

genshin lore is huge its bigger then my room

errant lance
#

unless we find out that twin is some duplicated version

#

like albedo

hidden whale
#

the quest confirms Pierro was a royal mage in khaenirah

scarlet apex
#

who know maybe the abyss twin died years ago and something tried to copy them

hidden whale
#

is that Piero is one of the few survivors of Khaenirah we have

errant lance
#

pierro? the first of the harbingers?

hidden whale
scarlet apex
#

yee

errant lance
#

i thought he was somehow connected

hidden whale
#

pretty obvious he’s from Khaenirah

#

as he has the same 4 pointed star eye as dainsleif and kaeya

scarlet apex
#

everything to his design says hes from Khaenriah

hidden whale
scarlet apex
errant lance
#

so, now we know that kaeya, dein, pierro and the twin are connected to khaenriah, with kaeya being a descendant of their people iirc

#

now see

#

iv seen a popular theory that greater lord ku-what ever

#

idk how to spell it

#

is just nahida but worn out

scarlet apex
#

rukkadevata

hidden whale
#

“She exhausted her strength and became that of a small child”

errant lance
#

but with the greater lord deleted from irminsul, people forgot her...but why was nahida crying?

scarlet apex
#

SHE BECAME SHORT THATS IT

errant lance
#

and why was she deleted anyway

scarlet apex
errant lance
#

fair

#

man, genshin lore goes so god damn deep that i dont understand 90% of it

scarlet apex
#

as for how she was deleted It was to purify irminsul right?

errant lance
#

i miss 1.0

scarlet apex
#

the simpler times man

hidden whale
#

eleazar got cured n stuff

errant lance
#

im assuming dotto-octavius had something to do with irminsul?

errant lance
#

yup

#

well, that somewhat explains about the written part...kind of

#

but next question

#

so we know ajax fell down a hole while he was fishing

scarlet apex
#

kinda i guess

errant lance
#

technically he stayed outside for 3 days, but months passed for him right?

#

so he managed to survive there

#

but how did he get abyssal powers?

#

why are his eyes so dull?

#

how did he end up joining the fatui?

hidden whale
#

the reason his eyes r dull is simple

he got trauma

scarlet apex
#

Well that part I am unsure but if i remember he met a person called Gold and they taught him how to use the byssal power

errant lance
#

i can already assume his bloodlust and love of fighting is the affect of the abyss

scarlet apex
#

dont take my word for it

hidden whale
errant lance
#

"After being chased by tha pack of wolves and Bear, he fell into a bottomless crack on surface where he met some mysterious swordswomen. In those three months, the swordswoman taught Tartaglia how to pass through the Abyss unhindered and nurtured the ability of Childe's trouble making nature."

#

"When did Tartaglia fall into the abyss?
Back at a young age, he was described as fairly shy, but his personality changed drastically when he was 14: he got lost in a snowy forest and fell into the Abyss, a deep, bottomless crack in the earth. There, he trained with a swordswoman known as "Skirk", and escaped the Abyss after three months."

#

so her name was skirk

scarlet apex
#

Oh skirk lol

errant lance
#

i could tell he had some form of PTSD from the abyss but

#

his abyssal power is...kinda strange?

scarlet apex
#

has anyone asked what the ABYSS IS

errant lance
#

also

#

how did a child randomly stumble on a crack

#

that lands you in the abyss

#

how the fuck did he get out?

scarlet apex
#

genshin logic

errant lance
#

also

#

out of every abyssal power we have seen

#

this man chooses a foul legacy form

hidden whale
#

probably found some thing to climb on

errant lance
#

i guess theres some simbolism to its name but

hidden whale
#

someone tried telling me that his vision is electro and that his delusion power is hydro

scarlet apex
#

Skirk probably uses foul legacy herself

scarlet apex
#

that

#

does not make sense

errant lance
#

i stopped understanding genshin lore after 2.1

#

so much new shit got discovered man

#

from people to events

#

like the bloodstained set

#

i can only assume that was dein?

hidden whale
errant lance
hidden whale
#

it probably covers like 1/4 of his body

errant lance
#

its a mask

#

you can see the texture slightly lifted off of his skin

scarlet apex
#

it'd be kinda cool it was a part of his body tho

errant lance
#

so unless its some sort of hardening on the outside of the skin

#

it wouldnt make sense

hidden whale
#

people say it’s apart of him bc of his arm

scarlet apex
#

wait can I ask something

errant lance
#

shoot

#

i got a metric fuck ton of questions left anyway

scarlet apex
#

oof

#

But anyway why was dain the only one who didnt get transfigured to idk becoming an abyss mage like the rest

#

like from the looks of it appears to just be his arm that got corrupted

#

and HOW TF DOES ABYSSEL CORRUPTION WORKI

#

ok im done

errant lance
#

technically

#

he wasnt the only one

#

we said before that pierro was also from khaenriah

#

kaeya is also a descendant

#

we also know that "hilichurls" aka corrupted humans were around at least 500 years before the fall of khaenriah

scarlet apex
#

I just realized how creepy the lore actually is

errant lance
#

aparently its the people that were deemed "unfit" for the leyline cycle

#

and the Sustainer (unknown god) was kinda just like

#

"eh, fuck em"

#

and left their souls to rot

scarlet apex
#

can i just say one thing tho

#

The sustainer is kinda hot

errant lance
#

true

#

also

errant lance
#

am i the only one that seems a similarity to the boxes the unknown god uses and the blac and red cubes

#

that destroyed khaenriah

scarlet apex
#

nope

errant lance
#

or what ever nation that was

#

also

#

Sal Vindagnyr

#

iv just learned of this

#

it was what dragon spine used to be

#

aparently it was destroyed

#

"Several thousand years ago, a group of refugees from a land of snow and strife — possibly Mondstadt during the Archon War, since Andrius' power froze the land[2] — came upon a lush, green mountain. They erected a monument on its peak and established a civilization there, naming it Sal Vindagnyr.[3] They built their capital city and palace, the Entombed City - Ancient Palace, on the mountain. For a while, the kingdom prospered, and the people enjoyed the blessings of Celestia.["

scarlet apex
#

I see

errant lance
#

they had a "large white tree"

#

sounds familiar?

scarlet apex
#

kinda

errant lance
#

irminsul was also a large white tree

scarlet apex
#

yes

#

so was a certain tree from honkai

#

and genshin might just be in the same multiverse as honkai

#

so these "Trees" must be something

#

else if irminsul ia tree from honkai thats means theres more imaginary trees

errant lance
#

hm

#

could genshin possibly be an alternate universe?

#

the characters share so many similarities

scarlet apex
#

not like bubble universes tho

errant lance
#

hell, even their powers and weapons are largely similar

scarlet apex
#

hmmm yup but

#

What if irminsul Is the more "normal" version of the imaginary treee

blazing hollow
#

but didnt otto launch a space mission or smt

#

in the webtoon

scarlet apex
#

honkai mightve corrupted the tree from honkai and the bubble universes else have honkai

errant lance
#

also i still believe venti is LARGELY connected to everything in genshin

blazing hollow
#

and dvalin was seen there

scarlet apex
#

hmmm the won with the second divine key?

errant lance
#

that fuckin sly fuckhead has eyes and ears everywhere

#

hes also friends with the god of time

blazing hollow
errant lance
#

venti HAS to be connected to everything

scarlet apex
#

VENTi

errant lance
#

i mean, have you seen how he ducks all questions?

#

his carefree attitude?

scarlet apex
#

yes

errant lance
#

"wants freedom" my ass, hes connected to so much shit

#

also i still believe the seven willingly give their gnoses to the tzaritsa in hopes she defeats celestia

blazing hollow
#

yes barbatos from ars goetia knows past,present and future
venti said lightheartedly that he knows every song from the past, present or future

scarlet apex
#

SUS

blazing hollow
#

so maybe he already knows whats gonna happen

errant lance
#

oh he 100% does

scarlet apex
#

this is kinda annoying like come on

blazing hollow
#

focalors seems to be highly loyal to celestia

velvet pumice
#

yea

scarlet apex
#

why dont people just tell the traveler rather then just siting there and being quiet

velvet pumice
#

thats what i think too

blazing hollow
#

i hope that something tragic or bad happens to us in fontaine

scarlet apex
#

same

blazing hollow
#

like loosing in court or idk

scarlet apex
#

we need more character development

velvet pumice
#

i hope a playable character we love dies

blazing hollow
#

being judged by focalors

velvet pumice
#

more tragic

#

more angst

scarlet apex
#

more depression

blazing hollow
velvet pumice
#

focalors dying would be funny

blazing hollow
#

i need the angst

scarlet apex
#

I want to see more of the harbingers

velvet pumice
#

like imagine being the biggest celestia simp and then celestia kills u

scarlet apex
#

And we need dottore alive tho

errant lance
#

i think focalors is gonna be the one to fight celestia the most ngl

#

since she prioritizes justice

scarlet apex
#

else remember what Liban said

blazing hollow
#

i wanna see someone die like

velvet pumice
blazing hollow
#

so many characters have death flags

scarlet apex
#

aparntly Fontaine is currently very dangerous

velvet pumice
errant lance
#

fontaine is dangerous do to their energy shortage aint it?

blazing hollow
errant lance
scarlet apex
#

else isnt fontaine very futuristic

errant lance
#

iv fallen down the lore rabbithole again...

scarlet apex
#

technoledgy there is more advanced from what i hear

#

and this whole thing with justice

#

and danger

#

else columbinas scary

blazing hollow
hidden whale
#

even Childe has no clue why Columbina is ranked so high

errant lance
#

nah cuz the puppetier or what ever her title is

#

kinda sus

scarlet apex
#

Columbinas kinda cute....

errant lance
#

i got high expectations for the doll one

hidden whale
#

Sandrone?

errant lance
#

yes her

blazing hollow
#

yes columbina seems interesting

errant lance
#

why tho

#

i havent heard her story

blazing hollow
hidden whale
scarlet apex
#

if she becomes playable im putting her right next to childe but anyway

hidden whale
#

besides that’s she’s #3 of the fatui

weary oriole
#

alhaitham was never real
wake up

hidden whale
#

a figment of our imagination

weary oriole
#

but yeah I'm saving to c6 r5 columbina if she becomes playable

errant lance
#

why does no one question the skyfrost nail from dragon spine btw

scarlet apex
#

wait what

blazing hollow
#

scara says that she seems innocent and like a „damsel“ from the outside but he suggested we stay clear of her

weary oriole
#

well what if I don't want to stay clear of her

errant lance
#

ok, what the FUCK do you have to do to have that midget say "just dont mess with ehr bro it aint worth it"

blazing hollow
little turret
blazing hollow
#

because traveller attracts danger in every nation so far😭

errant lance
#

they add all these characters like layla and candace that we never even seen before

#

but refuse to make other characters playable

#

its annoying as hell

blazing hollow
# weary oriole fr

at this point they should write a guide about how to become a criminal

errant lance
#

NAAAAAH bro imagine the nickname the traveler gets in fontaine is "Il Duce"

blazing hollow
weary oriole
#

your guys think we're gonna be stopping a celestial nail or meeting asmoday again in fontaine?
According to triangulation, celestia is right above fontaine. And liben talked about how the people keep saying "judgement will arrive"

errant lance
#

whos asmoday

hidden whale
hidden whale
blazing hollow
errant lance
#

ah

#

fair

hidden whale
#

Asmoday, the sustainer of heavenly principles

weary oriole
#

going by the archon naming scheme, asmodius would make more sense but it's fine

blazing hollow
errant lance
#

my headcannon is that fontaine will call the traveler "Il Duce" and shneznaya will call him "Tzarevich"

blazing hollow
weary oriole
#

OH NAH
I JUST STARTED THE NEW QUEST
THEY MADE AN NPC BRITISH

errant lance
#

considering how so far

blazing hollow
hidden whale
#

if u close ur eyes, ayato kinda has a British accent

errant lance
#

all the archons have gotten a name from one of the 72 demon lords

weary oriole
blazing hollow
errant lance
#

morax, beelzebub, barbatos

hidden whale
#

Barbatos, Morax, Beelzebul, Baal, Buer, Focalors

errant lance
#

why does the unknown god have the name of asmoday

hidden whale
#

like venti’s god name being Barbatos

weary oriole
#

the archons are named after the demon lords from Ars Goetia

blazing hollow
hidden whale
#

like how istaroth is astaroth

errant lance
#

i find it ironic that "baal" the head of infernal powers was an archon that couldnt fight and also used electro

blazing hollow
weary oriole
#

only below lucifer

errant lance
#

wait

#

WAIT

#

HOLY SHIT

#

BAAL

#

HAS 3 HEADS

weary oriole
#

que?

#

yeah

scarlet apex
#

I wonder if we'll get a character named lucifer

hidden whale
#

asmodeus has multiple

errant lance
#

MAKOTO, EI AND SCARABITCH

#

OR RATHER RAIDENS PUPPET

#

3 HEADS

weary oriole
#

she's also a giant fly looking ahh thing

hidden whale
scarlet apex
weary oriole
errant lance
#

im too hung over for this information that just entered my head

hidden whale
#

surprised we don’t have a Belphegor in genshin yet

errant lance
#

i want the pyro archon to be nammed Beleth

blazing hollow
#

thats sus

hidden whale
errant lance
#

so

#

lads

#

who are you betting will have the name zagan and or belial?

hidden whale
#

and Lumine’s and Aether’s names have something to do with light or luminescence

weary oriole
errant lance
#

tho im confused as to why venti, how was the strongest archon prime v prime, was named barbatos, which was only a duke of hell

blazing hollow
errant lance
#

oh wait

weary oriole
#

the cryo archon is most definitely lilith

errant lance
#

he understands the apst and the future

#

nevermind

#

it makes sense

hidden whale
weary oriole
#

her ideal is confirmed to be love from the scaramouce voicline

weary oriole
hidden whale
#

and barnabas is the name of a saint

errant lance
#

i want astaroth man

hidden whale
errant lance
#

wait which one is istaroth

#

also

hidden whale
#

Istaroth is the genshin one, astaroth is the demon irl

errant lance
#

remember the wolf boss?

hidden whale
#

yeah?

errant lance
#

whats his name again?

hidden whale
#

Andrius

blazing hollow
#

i wonder if they purposely changed the named a little bit.

errant lance
#

hm

blazing hollow
#

and if so why

hidden whale
#

Andrius may be named after Andras or Andrelphus

errant lance
#

for some reason i thought he was connected to androalphus

#

EYYY

#

same brain cell

#

but who is istaroth

#

like in the game

hidden whale
#

istaroth is the god of time

#

and possibly the voice we hear at the end of the new quest

blazing hollow
hidden whale
#

she’s connected to venti

errant lance
#

maybe the changed the name or purpose as a simbolic show that they can change and arent these "demons" but rather good natured beings?

#

idk

#

its my headcannon

weary oriole
#

on a scale from none to nahida at the end of akasha pulses, how much lore does this quest drop?

errant lance
#

i still find it hilarious that both morax and buer are "presidents" of hell

hidden whale
#

some

#

Scaramouche has officially been forgotten by everybody in teyvat

hidden whale
#

the rank 6 seat of the fatui is now written to be empty for hundreds of years

#

Signora was the one who got the gnosis but still met her death

#

Traveler is the only one who remembers

blazing hollow
errant lance
#

well, not scaramouche himself, more so his names

#

i think?

#

but that also creates plot holes

#

like miko wondering who the fuck she gave the gnoses to

#

why is there a random missing fatui number?

hidden whale
errant lance
#

vano

#

he himself did not die

#

just the memory of him died

weary oriole
errant lance
#

he was so plagued by his past that it had to happen

#

im not sure if he himself forgot, but he became a protector of irminsul anyway

weary oriole
blazing hollow
#

i understand that but the fact that nahida called wanderer a reincarnation of scaramouche threw me off because a reincarnation happens if the person before has died😭

sacred dock
#

Dude. Some streamer spend like 3 hours biting his thumbs over naming wanderer

blazing hollow
sacred dock
errant lance
#

wait

#

you can name the wanderer??

hidden whale
#

yeah

weary oriole
#

yeah

blazing hollow
#

yeah u can

weary oriole
#

at the end of the quest

errant lance
#

...im naming him DickMeister

#

anyway

hidden whale
#

i named him Fujin, but u can name him almost anything u want

errant lance
#

did he himself forget himself?

sacred dock
#

I named him Sosuke

sacred dock
weary oriole
sacred dock
#

He destroyed his identity in the process

blazing hollow
errant lance
#

hm...so he was redeemed....tho i find it stupid

#

hes done so much harm

#

so many people killed

blazing hollow
#

hoyoverse warns u before naming him

sacred dock
hidden whale
errant lance
#

and yet he just...gets a refund

hidden whale
#

not redeemed since he still has his regular personality

blazing hollow
hollow lake
blazing hollow
#

thus kinda „merging“ with scaramouche

weary oriole
#

there's no way the tsaritsas name isn't lilith

hidden whale
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note that all the weekly bosses except for andrius are all memories of the first fight we had with them

blazing hollow
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i named him wandere at first

sacred dock
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Keep reading the quest, it’s less redemption and more “im addressing that what i did is beyond unforgivable, so i’ll face the consequences”

weary oriole
blazing hollow
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and after the quest i renamed him to scarmouche

teal echo
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Game wouldn't accept Ritsuka as a name. I only prepared one name 🥹

blazing hollow
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not like raiden

errant lance
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a lot of people are complaining about it on twitter, but tahts just twitter being twitter

blazing hollow
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only once

hidden whale
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just once

weary oriole
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once at the end of the quest and then one more time before it's permanent

errant lance
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....im making him part of TLT

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so we share a part of our names

sacred dock
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AMOONGUS

hidden whale
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GET OUT OF MY HEAD

blazing hollow
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yeah basically

errant lance
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i got a question about the archon war and celestia

blazing hollow
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do keep in mind to not use anything offensive, etc because u can get banned

errant lance
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so we dont actually know why the archon war started, we just know it was so 7 seats could be filled. Those 7 would stay in teyvat while others went to celestia

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correct me if im wrong by the way

weary oriole
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sus

blazing hollow
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thats good to hear
i have seen a lot of people do that or just naming him babygirl or smt💀💀

weary oriole
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yes

errant lance
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wait

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this doesnt make sense to me

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so there are "divine seats" in celestia and when ever gods are killed, a seat gets destroyed

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and when someone ascends a new seat is created

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cool

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but the wiki says

blazing hollow
errant lance
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the defeated gods hid in the dark sea

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while the 7 stayed in teyvan and rules

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now my questions are

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  • why would they want to stay and rule anyway?
  • who the hell is even in celestia if the defeated gods are still in teyvat
  • who created celestia and why was it so sought after
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  • who the HELL RULES OVER CELESTIA
blazing hollow
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i think to answer most of that we must know what created the archon war in the first place

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since celestia was there before it happened

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and i cant imagine the simple reason to fight for the role of archon to be the only reason

errant lance
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we know they lived in somewhat alright peace

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and cooperation

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and most gods didnt even WANT to become rules

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plus, tho "get the 7 divine seats" doesnt mean much because they arent even in celestia to being with

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my only theory is that celestia was built as a source and connection to all the gods and their souls, or rather, their "divine seats" are and the one that was ruling threatened to destory the seats of the weak ones

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and without the seats, they basically lose their soul

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but that theory also doesnt make sense since we KNOW some only fought to defend their territory

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and some didnt fight at all

lament aurora
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i think we’ll @learn a lot more in 3.5 w the traveler quest esp since we’ll still be in sumeru and we’ve already gotten so much lore from here

errant lance
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i should really catch up to sumeru quests

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even tho i dont really like sumeru all that much

weary oriole
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I have a theory that irminsul is the wise mystical tree from the memes

errant lance
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maybe

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but i dont understand still

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who is in celestia

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since we know the gods that refused to live under the rule of the seven hid

weary oriole
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Irminsul real form revealed

errant lance
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also, i like how venti, one of the original seven, was the strongest if we compare primes

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kekw

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WAIT

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IF TEYVAT IS ONLY 1 CONTINENT

clever gull
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Venti mad sus

errant lance
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DOES THAT MEAN THE MAP WILL GET EVEN BIGER?

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like will we find another version of the seven that rule a different continent?

clever gull
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Nah teyvat is main plot