・lore-basement

[thick oyster]

Mhm

He is the "perfect being to merge with the world"

....Like how Capitano merged with the Ley Lines

Would fit with the mythology

In mythology Saarelainen was chopped up and pieced together by his mother

[worldly rain]

Night mother hmmm...

[thick oyster]

Wait I meant he was chopped up by someone else and then pieced together by his mother afterwards

[thick oyster]

No

He tried to woo a daughter of louhi

I think the source for most of these myths is the Kalevala
I should probably get it lol

[vivid wasp]

Morning chat

[cold creek]

Morning

It’s night here tho

[vivid wasp]

Dumb question
Do we have a BP weapon with Inazuma lore

[thick oyster]

No

[vivid wasp]

Hmm
We got the new battle pass weapons in Fontaine right?
So assuming we get new ones, would it be in Snezhnaya or Khaenri'ah?

[brave marten]

should be Snezhnaya

1.0-4.0-7.0

yeah Snezhnaya

[vivid wasp]

Cool
Well, assuming that's the case, I hope we get a BP weapon with Inazuma lore..

It's still Natlan
The reason Inazuma "feels" like the neglected child as of now is because of the supposed political stuff going on in China

[brave marten]

how's Natlan neglected

[vivid wasp]

How is it not?
The regions was left unfinished, they unironically consider Ineffa's story quest the "finale" of Natlan somehow, we still don't have the Mare Jivari, we still don't know the secret that Mavuika was going to tell us, we still don't know what is up with the pyro gnosis plotline, the name in the pyro gemstone description is still a mystery, we don't know what is up with the first Natlan teaser and who Mavuika was talking to, Gosoythoth was such a pathetic excuse of a weekly boss villain and we also STILL don't have a second weekly boss for the region, instead Mondstadt and Sumeru are getting an extra one, 99% of all Natlan related events are just "look at the cute Saurians!!!" And lastly Mavuika sucks and I want to skin her face with a cheese grater

[brave marten]

well I think we all those plot lines related to Natlan are left open on purpose we just have to have patience for them and Mare Jivari like how we waited for the Irminsul plotline for years

why do you think Gosoythoth is a bad weekly boss?

and yeah the Natlan events suck

Mavuika too but I don't think anyone who frequents this chat likes her

[vivid wasp]

I KNOW!!!!!!!! BUT WHY AREN'T THEY HYPING IT UP?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! WHY AREN'T THEY HINTING AT ANYTHING.

[vivid wasp]

Because he was a plot device, not a weekly boss with a proper story who fit into the overall narrative
Even Signora was done better

[brave marten]

did you see them hype up the Irminsul plotline at all since its first tease? 4 years of silence that I genuinely thought it was either a metaphor or it got scrapped, sadly it's how they operate 🥀

[vivid wasp]

They confirmed it in an interview that it was going to be part of a future plotline
What have they done for Natlan? Nothing. They literally said Ineffa's dogshit story quest was the finale

[brave marten]

I remember someone complaining that Natlan's AQ was weak because it barely had conflict and whatever conflict it had with Capitano and Mavuika was solved very quickly and I genuinely couldn't agree more with that sentiment, it's one of the reasons the AQ sucks

[brave marten]

fair point, honestly I was convinced Natlan was going to be the focus of the second part of NK patch cycle but ehh

Capitano genuinely bent over for Mavuika

his character was so disappointing especially since I'm a Fatui fan

[vivid wasp]

It's what I thought too 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 it was the ONLY thing I had to look forward to Nod-Krai

[brave marten]

I still can't believe there's nothing you liked in NK

is Natlan going to be the focus of Snezhnaya's second half of the patch cycle

[vivid wasp]

I hate everything about Nod-Krai
I want Columbina to get put into a hydraulic press and explode

[brave marten]

yeah, he just lost and got ok yeah mommy Mavuika I will do whatever you ask of me

[brave marten]

I hate Columbina too 😭

the last two archon figures are so disappointing bro

her backstory isn't even that tragic

[vivid wasp]

I love you
You are my best friend now
I'm so glad I have found like minded people

[brave marten]

it reads like an entitled rich girl who's mad she got responsibilities

[vivid wasp]

I live for Mavuika and Columbina slander
It is my life force

[brave marten]

hopefully

[brave marten]

same bro

I can't believe

how many people defend the writing of Columbina

[vivid wasp]

I KNOW

Criticize Citlali, Ayaka and every other Waifu-bait character is fine but god forbid you call out Columbina's writing

[brave marten]

is it tho

[vivid wasp]

They 100% did
Same with Arlecchino

[brave marten]

they lowk do it for Citlali tho

it's overshowed by her constant embarrassing behavior whenever the traveler's on screen

which is 99% of the time

[brave marten]

god I'm glad I got someone who thinks so

I get called crazy for sayinf the female harbingers had stuff changed to them

Crucabena was the biggest asspull I've ever seen in this game

[vivid wasp]

I like her story quest but I hate what they did with her relationship between Ororon and her
Their dynamic was lovely and I hate that they threw it away and proceeded to say that she's just another "lonely character who's only friend is the Traveler"
Brother Ororon is right there??? You literally considered him your grandson??
She was perfectly characterized in the 3rd act of the Natlan AQ, there was a bit of fanservice but it was toned down
But then afterwards she was just Traveler Simp #9000

[brave marten]

it's not just that, you tell me she spent years having tea parties with the others and she was smiling and singing like that during Signora's funeral? 500 years being alive and spent them all bumming around in the Tsaritsa's castle not learning any manners?

honestly if they made Columbina like born few years ago I'd understand

but she's older than Dottore bro 😭

[brave marten]

yeah like I really liked her dynamic with Ororon and wanted them to focus on that a bit

but...

FUCK AND SHE WAS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER FROM THE TEASER

[vivid wasp]

Her voiceline on him pisses me off so much I want Da Wei to get shot in the balls

[brave marten]

I remember by the time she released all my love for her dissipated but I went to see the voicelines and just saw Ororon's and from the sheer disappointment I had I closed my phone and went to sleep

[vivid wasp]

They sidelined all the male characters
Like I'm not one to talk about gender wars because it's the #1 thing that pisses me off about this fandom
But it's not a secret that they 100% fucked up Natlan in the male character department on purpose

[brave marten]

BRO IT PISSES ME OFF

[vivid wasp]

But how are they supposed to make the sad teaser trailer of her looking all happy and then big bad dottote shows up and ruins everything?
I DON'T EVEN LIKE DOTTORE
BUT I GENUINELY AM ROOTING FOR THE GUY TO KILL HER

[brave marten]

Dottore genuinely did nothing wrong to her, not to the degree of Scaramouche, yeah Dottore's a piece of shit but the way they villainzed him in Columbina's backstory it makes him look he manipulated her since birth

you know it's bad when Dottore fans and haters agree

I can't take Columbina seriously and I'm tired of people acting like she's a writing masterpiece

her backstory reads like a rich entitled girls

who didn't want responsibilites

that's it

yeah just to make him lose twice in a row

gonna happen a third time next patch too I bet

[vivid wasp]

Can't wait for the Snezhnaya Archon Quest where they make Pierro the big bad Harbringer and Tsaritsa the misunderstood waifu who's being manipulated by him or alternatively Mary Sue who gets glazed to oblovion and kills him on the spot

[brave marten]

aww like father like son

[vivid wasp]

I actually don't mind that in the slighest because I hate shipping of any kind and find it to be the #2 thing I hate the most about this fandom

[brave marten]

SAME

SHIPPERS ALWAYS ALWAYS MISINTPRET CHARACTERS OR GIVE HEADCANONS THAT DONT MAKE SENSE

AND HOYO FLANDERIZES THEM WHEN THEY FANS OF SAID SHIP

Sandrone's a bum bro

they did?

I still see community wide hate for him

I tell you bro they feel morally superior by hating him

I mean they can considering how many people hate him

bro is Jen writing an essay

[vivid wasp]

I was kind of laughing at the fact that people were hating on Natlan because of no "Yaoi or Yuri" pairings
I don't get people who only play the game to get their rocks off thinking about their favorite characters doing each other
Anyways shipping sucks
We are never getting a canonical couple anyways so who the fuck cares

[brave marten]

same, I frankly thought it was a good thing because look at the fucking disaster that is Sumeru's cast

they're not playable

Alice will be playable

but im certain

[vivid wasp]

Highly doubt it

[brave marten]

nah im certain

Klee will be a clone

or smthn

and Kleiner is some kind of

male best friend

😭

i dont think she ever explicity says hes her husband

[vivid wasp]

Yeah

Just says he's Klee's father

[brave marten]

would you guys believe

I was in the trenches fighting Sandrone tsundere allegations back in 6.0

a mf 8 months later made a reply to my comment about her not being tsundere saying you were coping bro

fuck him why did he have to remind me

[vivid wasp]

Something similar happened to me but it was like, on a positive note
I made a theory way back in 5.0 regarding the Mare Jivari having a weird timeline discrepancy and how I thought that it was going to be important
And then when the 5.8 patch came out a guy on reddit replied to the comment I made with that theory saying "Hey you were kind of correct!"
That's honestly my proudest theorist moment

[brave marten]

you're so lucky

well

I remember back in Sumeru patches

I made a post about how the Irminsul burning was foreshadowing

but everyone in the comments kept calling me stupid and that it was a metaphor

I wonder how they feel rn

[vivid wasp]

I mean, the devs literally said in an interview that it was going to happen eventually...

[brave marten]

yeah that was in Fontaine pathces tho

[vivid wasp]

Ohhh

Didn,xt know

[brave marten]

yeah the interview is lowk kind of

not very well known

people only heard about it a few months later

I lowk thought it was fake because the interview was only talked about by people who were there for it

the devs themselves didn't post about it in social media accounts

[vivid wasp]

Yeah they don't do that
Like posts intervirws and stuff

[brave marten]

which is weird

unless someone who was there for the interview we wouldnt know

[vivid wasp]

The only interview I ever saw people bring up
Was the iconic "excessive anxiety" interview lmao

[brave marten]

someone should post about that again

considering we have stygian now

devs were lying to our faces

[vivid wasp]

Yeah that interview aged

[brave marten]

but the map exploration is way easier now

I miss Inazuma's exploration

[vivid wasp]

Unfortunately 😔

I miss Sumeru's expansion

[brave marten]

I wish it was a bit of both

[vivid wasp]

I love the underground areas

[brave marten]

the deserts and the puzzles of Inazuma

[vivid wasp]

Same

[brave marten]

I love Inazuma's puzzles

but my favorite puzzles were tbh

in gaa the second

[vivid wasp]

I wasn't a big fan of Inazuma puzzles but it wasn't because of the difficulty

[brave marten]

why then

[vivid wasp]

Idk, just didn't like them that much
I dislike the ones that had to have you be imbued by electro, they were less difficult and more annoying at times

[brave marten]

well when I said I like Inazuma's puzzles

I was mainly talking about the ones

that glow when u hit them

and how u have to make themn all glow

[vivid wasp]

The cubes right?

[brave marten]

yes

[vivid wasp]

Those were difficult to me, but it was a skill issue on my part
Like, just because I found them difficult though didn't mean that I wanted all the puzzles going forward to become braindead

[brave marten]

I enjoyed them a lot tbh

gaa 2.0 was peak puzzles for me

[vivid wasp]

#・lore-basement message

This one was mine

[brave marten]

holy noticing

[thick oyster]

I mean it ain't that crazy

They are at least designed to have parallels
Both destroyed and conquered whole civilizations and copied other species' powers for their own

Mhm

I have a crackpot theory that maybe the reason why Snezhnaya is infected with the Abyss RN is that maybe Celestia is trying to use it to destabilize them

[brave marten]

them?

Khaenrians?

[thick oyster]

Them as in Snezhnaya and the Fatui

[vivid wasp]

Honestly, I noticed it because of the fact that the talking stick literally appeared in the AQ, which made me reread it

[thick oyster]

I mean they did get actively mad when Ronova made the Night Kingdom in Natlan

[brave marten]

I don't think the shades would do that and phanes is asleep rn

[thick oyster]

Hm yeah that's why it's crackpot
My main theory is that it's Hroptatyr doing it

[brave marten]

why would Hroptatyr want to destabilize the Fatui

[thick oyster]

Not actively
Could just be because of his presence
He is linked to Pierro

[brave marten]

hmm 🤔

[thick oyster]

It was fated to be destroyed?

[vivid wasp]

Same

[thick oyster]

Or Shenhe's weapon that you can find in Chenyu Vale

Yeah but that was just the future vision which is separate from fate
Alia saw Traveler in the future

And Traveler doesn't have fate

[vivid wasp]

The good old days of me thinking Capitano was going to be the main hero and that the Traveler was not going to do anything noteworthy... sigh.

[thick oyster]

Traveler fans don't deserve human rights

She literally looked directly in the direction of the Traveler when she was talking to Solovei

Priestess Alia not Treasure Hoarder Alia btw

She just saw the future of Rotwang being defeated not his fate

But his fate was corrupted/altered by the Abyss

He was a halfbreed
He should have mutated into a Hillichurl when he left Khaenri'ah

But he was "chosen" and avoided that fate

[vivid wasp]

There is this Venti voiceline which to this day is hella suspicious.

[thick oyster]

Ngl prime Rotwang was near Sinner level
He clearly had a very high level of Abyss control

Yeah and Rotwang broke the curse of wilderness

He needed that to break the false sky

I shouldn't have said nigh Sinner level

More like he had Sinner level expertise

I more meant that he was like a Sinner-lite

Yeah Rotwang doesn't have their raw strength

[vivid wasp]

Realty? Where

[worldly rain]

Mavuika has similar moment in her story quest with Traveler

[brave marten]

whatd she say

[vivid wasp]

^ yeah I'm curious

[worldly rain]

Traveler‍: Did you ever falter, or wonder if you might lose to him, even for a second?
Mavuika: ...
Mavuika: No. In battle, there is no time for that. So, it never crossed my mind.
(‍Traveler‍) (Huh? That's the same answer as last time...)
(‍Traveler‍) (...How come she knew what I was thinking?)

This dialogue happens at the end of the quest
And below is the previous moment

https://youtu.be/J4QJuzvxV3I?si=1ZsG45OUGedam5Dw

Watch at 1:00

[vivid wasp]

Hmm, I kind of see how it's similar to Venti's quote?

Speaking of which, when the "Sunset" animated trailer came out before 5.3, there was one thing that kind of interested me?
It was the fact that in the flashback to the past with Mavuika, she was shown having her flamestrider, but she only got the flamestrider in the future with Xilonen
So some people speculated some sort of time traveling thing going on
Most people I talk to just say it doesn't really mean anything but like, I still wonder about it.
Especially with the Mare Jivari and what not...

[worldly rain]

The interpretation was that it was mavuika's internal struggle and her travelling through bike across time was showing her mental state

On the other note the similarities between venti and her is basically from the theory that traveller has been in the same situation in previous cycle and are repeating their journey again in current cycle

[vivid wasp]

God, even when there's a single glimpse of her character becoming interesting the devs fuck it up

[worldly rain]

My theory is that before they conceptualized nod krai to fix the discrepancy in lore and story they had already made natlan story so they just rushed through it and we got what we got with lots of question still left unanswered

[vivid wasp]

Yeah :(

[worldly rain]

With potential release of mare jivari in future I'm sure they're going to fix lot of unanswered questions

They finally got around burning irminsul and we waited 3 years for that

Natlan will come back

The concept of cycle has been constantly being brought up in lore it's only in time we'll see it in story as well
I feel mavuika story quest hinted at that but for now I'll leave it at that

[vivid wasp]

Deep down I know...
I just don't want to get dissappointed again :(
Because when 5.3 came out I had hoped that Mare Jivari would come and answer all our questions before us going to Snezhnaya
But then Nod-Krai came up...
And then I had hoped that we'd get the Mare Jivari at the second half of Nod-Krai but well, that's not the case.
And the fact that they're not hinting at any thing Natlan related worries me as well. I guess I'll have to see in 6.6 if we get any mention
I want Natlan's mysteries to tie into Snezhnaya's finale, for it to be major to the plot... I don't want for it all to just be part of a random interlude.

Natlan was the nation that I was most interested in because of the Manga.
I had hoped that it would have been the Nation who's story would suffer the least amount of rewrites because of it

[river valve]

I always thought ppl were over complicating this

I genuinely think this just refers to how he was the "mysterious guy that gave us anemo guns" during the first stromterror chase scene

[spark portal]

I just realized this about Inazuma's main story

I get that Japan had a lot of internal war, but did Hoyo just take the tension between Okinawan (Ryukyuans) and mainland Japan and turn it into Inazuma's story?

[vivid wasp]

More or less

[vivid wasp]

Had a weird dream last night, where there was a new world quest in Genshin that had a new mega boss which was super difficult to beat
The boss would constantly switch out the characters you were using for different ones, and it could summon Azhdaha and the Primo Geovishap to fight you as well
In order to defeat the boss more easily you had to do special quests in Natlan that would increase your damage significantly
Also for some reason Snorlax from Pokémon was one of my playable characters

[brave marten]

you wanted Natlan content so much ur brain came up with some for you

[dreamy temple]

any theories on why

In the end of winter nights lazzo it was tighnari who woke up collei but in the new trailer the voice is sethos and yet she follows tighnari

it's in every language too

[dreamy temple]

Ohh makes sense

[queen prawn]

You guys think the dream is Istaroth doing

Very strange for a random kid to get such dream

[vivid wasp]

Why would it be Istaroth's doing though
And why Collei specifically?

I mean I could see it being the case but it seems very unlikely

[queen prawn]

That why it could be Istaroth, why would it be Collei.

[brave marten]

what

do you mean she made Collei dream about it?

[queen prawn]

Ye

[vivid wasp]

Didn't think about the God remains part but yeah

I remember when Winter's Night Lazzo came out I theorized that it was something similar to like, the Sal Vindagnyr Princess, where it was said she had prophetic dreams because of being born under the Irminsul tree

[brave marten]

could the god remains inside her were of a god that connected to the Irminsul tree at some point

[vivid wasp]

Hard to know, but I guess its a possibility

[brave marten]

Rukkha remains

[vivid wasp]

Its not 100% confirmed
The "proof" for it is that one of the Saurians mention a guy with a fluffy coat, but it's supposed to be the Fatui Agent who shows up at the very end who we fight

Yeah

I didn't play Varka's SQ and I don't know what happened in it so I can't say much

Are we sure the new Dottore is a mimic though
I didn't watch the livestream so idk if the devs said anything in that regard

Ah I see

I see

[river valve]

WHY did irminsul create a database entity of dottore and let it run rampant we'll never know (until 6.6)

[queen prawn]

I dont think irminsul created him,and while the stream did not prefer him as Dottore,he is still a version of Dottore with the same ideal

And it is understandable because his design is not human

His whole head is black

Ye

Though

Capitano head was shown to be black in the animated short. Eventhough it is supposed to be his helmet

[vivid wasp]

Thats what I was gonna say, but yeah it's because of his curse

[river valve]

He wasnt a god

Also the power source was the moon marrows they didn't die

Only the artificial one got destroyed and thats a shitty replica

[ebon iris]

see the thing is

said it in KLP but idk if they said that bc they wanna hide the fact it is dottore

or if it isnt him and like u said resembles him (some fucking tulpa segment or whatever) then it also doesnt explain how it came into being tho wed probably know once we play through the quest

if dottore took any remaining segments and spliced them all together into a trojan

ahh another server im in

khaenriah lore project

[thick oyster]

What's it for?

What specifically?

Yeah I thought so

He's referring to Lhanes' order as a whole

Yeah
The tree that was stolen from the Dragons

Azhdaha's tail looked a lot like an Irminsul branch

Also Apep is appearing in the next quest

Or they burned the old one down and created a new one

Remember the "Primordial Sakura" that's mentioned in that one description?

Well maybe it'll be revealed next quest

I mean we already know very little about Irminsul so I don't see why it would be an ass pull

No a domain description

No not really
Since they had the Night Kingdom

Kukulkan mentions that the Ley Lines were "converted"

Here, the Primeval Sakura

Kukulkan was more focused on Phlogiston not the tree

He would have no reason to mention it

Yeah
But like where did it come from

And where did it go

Well they didn't

They had Phlogiston

The dragons in Natlan did

But they were unique

Not every nation in Teyvat centers around Irminsul

No they don't

Well dragon domains had Irminsul branches too

We see them

Also this one

So we have two dragon domains with Irminsul branches in them

All domains have Irminsul branches in them

I don't have Skirk or Varesa so I've never needed to go there lol

Thought so

But how could they put a tree there

Not how it works

Maybe the human civs stole the altar design from the dragons

He was a plant

They both had odd tech

Hasn't been observed or hinted at ever

They had the Moons too

The Moons also were originally for the Dragons

Did she sacrifice herself for that?

We don't know how Erinnyes died
Or if she even did die

There's a theory she became Focalors

Makoto didn't sacrifice herself for that

Istaroth also helped

She was a God too

Not a human

There were no gods in Natlan

Humans can't create trees

We know they sacrificed humans in temples and there are no trees there

Not the dragon ones

Wayobs are Night Kingdom not Ley Lines

[brave marten]

wait wtf are wayobs

[thick oyster]

Wayobs = Obsidian poles not trees

[thick oyster]

These things

[brave marten]

no ik

i meant

wtf are they

what do they do and how do they exist

shit like that

[thick oyster]

The collective consciousnessea of each tribe

[thick oyster]

Let me find the description

[brave marten]

damn

oh

familiars?

they were created by the lord of the night kingdom?

[brave marten]

🤔

i see

[thick oyster]

When Chaac's whole tribe died he made the first wayob from them

[brave marten]

I thought they'd

be

doing the leylines job sorta for the lord of the night kingdom

[thick oyster]

They do

[brave marten]

oh

[thick oyster]

We have them in the tribe villages

[brave marten]

before they were created because of chaac's tribe who did that for lotn

or what

[thick oyster]

Yohual herself I guess
Wayobs just help

[brave marten]

they made it easier for her?

oh they make sacrifices for them?

[thick oyster]

They would have

Dragons also had tech to manipulate the Ley Lines

[brave marten]

hmm

Im still confused, consequences of skipping everything related to Natlan

[thick oyster]

The thing Capitano used

That woke up Yohual

It's from dragon tech
It's implied Kukulkan led him to it

[brave marten]

Kukulkan led Capitano to it?

[thick oyster]

The three scholars that Mavuika never heard of

[brave marten]

oh yeah always wondered who those were

[thick oyster]

Could have been Kukulkan in disguise

[brave marten]

hmmm

remind me

cz I skipped the Natlan WQ too

what happened to Kukulkan at the end

[thick oyster]

Wiki says he faded away
But I didn't see that so idk

I guess I just missed it

[brave marten]

@odd thicket do you remember

aw man

[brave marten]

did we know their names

[thick oyster]

We did

He says them

[brave marten]

could their names mean something that has a clue to their real identity

have to check

lemme see

[thick oyster]

Possibly

[brave marten]

found some people saying it's just a reference to simulanka

[thick oyster]

Doubt it

It's more than that

[brave marten]

wait

are they any more sentient smart dragons like Kukulkan?

[thick oyster]

Scylla

[brave marten]

eh

yeah nvm it's probably just Kukulkan

don't think we'll ever get a concrete answer of who they are with him dead

[thick oyster]

😭

Insane Scylla stray

[brave marten]

you know

I lowk think there might be two Dottores next patch

in the lazio trailer they show Dottore watching the tree burning

the boss is probably happening inside the tree while the other Dottore watching from outside

hopefully

[thick oyster]

One is the boss form one is the non boss form

[brave marten]

yeah

hopefully

[thick oyster]

I think they did something similar in 6.3 correct?

[brave marten]

🤔

I mean

are you talking

about the part

where Arle said he went back to Snezhnaya

?

[thick oyster]

No doesn't he swap from "IL Dottore" to "The Doctor" at certain points

[brave marten]

ohhh

im not certain actually I have to check

[brave marten]

nope

he stays The Doctor

to the very end

[thick oyster]

So we're probably going to talk to his boss form

Or were getting a flashback

A flashback would make sense

[brave marten]

doubt it

well

actually

I think there will be a flashback at some point

specifically to Nahida and Dottore's conversation about the Irminsul in Sumeru's AQ

[thick oyster]

Or a flashback to Pantalone and him

[brave marten]

maybe

just a week left

this patch can't come any sooner

[thick oyster]

Gonna be difficult to avoid the preload lol

Are you gonna avoid it?

[brave marten]

fr, I'm gonna try to avoid it

[brave marten]

going to try 😭

[thick oyster]

Yeah, just don't use that shit hole Reddit

Shouldn't be too hard

[brave marten]

have to not open reddit or twitter for two days

yeah

especially since

I have my finals in a few weeks

so i'm gonna be busy anyways

are you going to avoid it

[thick oyster]

Yes

[brave marten]

peak

https://tenor.com/view/dottoflower-dottore-genshin-dottoflower-burning-irminsul-dottore-genshin-tree-zandik-gif-13585347857095708549

I just want to see this scene

in game

I've been waiting too much for it to not happen

[thick oyster]

Yeah

[vivid wasp]

Oh yeah, I forgot we still don't have a concrete answer for that

[thick oyster]

Yeah

[vivid wasp]

Another thing for me to add to my list of answers I want
Though the Kukulkan thing is the most plausible one, I just want 100% confirmation.

[brave marten]

everything else I told is gonna arrive in time

but this one I genuinely think we'll never get an answer of

[thick oyster]

Just wait until Capitano becomes playable
Soon.....

[vivid wasp]

Soon as in the second half of Snezhnaya or the first half of Khaenri'ah? 😭

By the way, assuming that the Mare Jivari comes out in the Snezhnaya patches, what version do you guys think it will come out in?
I'm hoping for 7.3 but I know thats too much to hope for...

[thick oyster]

Idk man

[brave marten]

either 7.5 or 7.6 I think

[vivid wasp]

I know this is the most realistic answer but I'm still going to cry over ot

At the very least, if it does come out in 7.5/6, I hope it means the Snezhnaya AQ doesn't end in 7.3.

[brave marten]

same, I'm thinking it should be half a Snezhnaya quest half a Natlan quest like next patch for Sumeru and NK

[thick oyster]

||Why TF did they make Sandrone fucking cryo||

Like we seriously got two cryo DPS back to back just to fucking discourage us 😭

[brave marten]

I genuinely don't get the logic behind it 🥀

[brave marten]

I know Lohen pullers will regret him day one 😭

[thick oyster]

They fucking murdered Lohen man it's insane

[vivid wasp]

||I hadn't been looking at leaks but I thought she was going to be Electro?? Wtf.||

[brave marten]

I'm so certain he was slated to be standard and they made his ass limited after the hype they saw for him

[thick oyster]

||Yeah the leaks say she's cryo now????? Claymore too at least and not Catalyst again but still||

[brave marten]

god that damage is laughable for a limited unit in the big 26

[thick oyster]

They would not do this to a female character 🥀

Let's just pray Snezhnaya introduces the Stellar Lohen reaction that buffs his damage by 200%

[brave marten]

yeah and then they release stellar Lohen to pull

stellar Lohen has 50k more damage than Hex Lohen

[thick oyster]

They don't do SPs in Genshin
Yet

[brave marten]

and fuck you

[brave marten]

I can't see genshin

doing SPs

[thick oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/stallipiano-gif-8633409668543310298

[brave marten]

but they're welcome

[thick oyster]

Yeah I like the idea of them

[brave marten]

it's hoyo telling us to gfys 😭

[vivid wasp]

What are SPs
I don't play the other hoyo games

[brave marten]

I like HSR in that aspect because it doesn't increase the amount of characters while bringing older characters back into the story

[thick oyster]

Essentially the same character in a new form

[brave marten]

I think genshin should do them

[thick oyster]

So like a character gets a big power up in the story and so they get a new design

And kit

[brave marten]

not even a power up

Sparxie is just Sparkle's alter ego

😭

that gained consciousness

[thick oyster]

It would be better than some random ass guy getting released and for some reason out damaging half the cast

[vivid wasp]

Oh
Ehhhhh
Not sure if I like it
I kind of prefer the Hexerei type buffs

[brave marten]

yep

[thick oyster]

Yeah but the thing is
Hoyoverse fucking hates Hexerei

[brave marten]

I love Hexerei too but

what amgelus said andddd

[vivid wasp]

Why

[brave marten]

it brings back older characters back into the story

it gives them relevance again

[thick oyster]

Hoyoverse acts like they had a gun pointed to their head when they made it

[brave marten]

it's a very good I think

[vivid wasp]

I feel like the Hexerei buffs do the same thing though???

[thick oyster]

They're all painfully inefficient compared to the Lunar reactions

[brave marten]

I think Varka overall is good now but good god Lohen got fucked over by a huge amount

[thick oyster]

Varka had a horrible release that is only now being rectified with Prune and the new artifacts

[brave marten]

I mean yeah sure but they didn't get as much relevance as an SP

[vivid wasp]

Oh
I'm not a meta person so I wouldn't know

[thick oyster]

Nicole isn't beating the "Bennet side-grade" accusations
And Lohen just sucks ass

[vivid wasp]

I'm still surprised they didn't make him standard

[brave marten]

wirh that damage he should've been

🥀

[thick oyster]

Hopefully Stellar Swirl is introduced to make Varka even stronger

[thick oyster]

He was too popular

[brave marten]

I was thinking of that but

[thick oyster]

They thought they could milk more money out of him standard

[brave marten]

a stellar swirl carry is likely happening

😭

[thick oyster]

Yeah but Varka will be just as good as them probably

https://tenor.com/view/izuku-midoriya-my-hero-academia-boku-no-hero-academia-mha-bnha-gif-16724628

[brave marten]

hopefully

if they don't increase

the ceiling much

I was genuinely thinking Varka would have a good cryo team when the Tsaritsa releases

before stellar bullshit was first mentioned

[thick oyster]

Honestly my copium is that they're just holding off on becoming standard to get more people to spend money on his banner

[brave marten]

we'll know what this stellar bs does next week

[thick oyster]

So that they can pull the rug under them

[vivid wasp]

What's this stellar stuff

[thick oyster]

||Leaked new reactions for Snezhnaya||

[brave marten]

I'm genuinely thinking the same thing but it's too copious 😭

[brave marten]

||lunar but cryo||

[vivid wasp]

I hope that's the case too ngl
I mean idgaf about Lohen but still

[brave marten]

half his appeal was that people thought he's standard icl 😭

[thick oyster]

Or they'll do day 1 release buffs like what Skirk got

[vivid wasp]

||Oh
Is it going to be like the Lunar Reactions where it's character specific though...?||

[vivid wasp]

Didn't even know she got buffs

[thick oyster]

Unclear for now
||Sandrone is going to introduce them so we will find out then||

[thick oyster]

Yeah apparently her attack speed was buffed

[vivid wasp]

Ahh I see ^^

[thick oyster]

I mean Varka's whole thing is that he can use different elements so I'm holding out hope still

[brave marten]

hopefully man

[thick oyster]

But he has a good DPS with Prune now so it wouldn't be too bad

[brave marten]

I'm still coping for another wabe of Hexerei buffs

for units like Mika and Rosaria etc

[thick oyster]

6.7 hopefully....

[vivid wasp]

That's what I was hoping because at the very least it'd mean I'd get him during the anniversary

[brave marten]

idk why they delayed it this kong

[thick oyster]

||Diona was leaked to get buffs||

Not Hexerei

[brave marten]

yeah I wanted that too but alas 🥀

[thick oyster]

But buffs

[brave marten]

oh wait you don't know?

[thick oyster]

Don't know what?

[brave marten]

||they removed them, leakers said it was a part of the Hexerei buffs that were supposed to get released in 6.6 but got delayed again||

[vivid wasp]

||There are more Hexerei buffs coming?||

[brave marten]

||hoyo basically forgot to remove them in v1 of beta||

[thick oyster]

Yeah I know they removed them but that was just to hide them
||Also wasn't it for her C6 that got the buff?||

[brave marten]

they keep getting delayed

[thick oyster]

Hopefully we'll get Barbeloth in Snezhnaya and she introduces more at least or something

[vivid wasp]

Damn

[brave marten]

it was and nah trust me dataminers said it was part of the hexerei buffs thay got removed/delayed

[brave marten]

hopefully more Hexerei

[thick oyster]

Dataminers have hurt me too many times

[brave marten]

fairs

I like Hexerei man

[thick oyster]

So do I

[brave marten]

fuck lunar

I genuinely hate lunar stuff

I have never hated anything more than lunar in this game

[thick oyster]

It could have been good if they just let the 4 stars enable them too

Because it's really fun in idea
New stronger reactions that older characters could theoretically use

[brave marten]

thing is

the raw reactions themselves

are buns

😭

[vivid wasp]

Yeah that's the thing that pisses me off about Lunar Reactions

The fact that they are locked behind 5 star characters suck balls

You know what they should have done

[thick oyster]

Also given them to older characters with lore associations to the Moons maybe

[brave marten]

can't believe I fell for the new element bait when they first mentioned lunar in 5.3

[thick oyster]

But that's asking for a little too much

[vivid wasp]

Made it so that Hydro Traveler is able to do all of them like Columbina
Hydro Traveler is ass anyways so it wouldn't be that op.

[thick oyster]

I always knew it would be a gimmick

[brave marten]

I still had hope at that moment

because nightsoul wasn't bad

but lunar?

bruv

[thick oyster]

It had its moments at the worst of times
But nothing like Lunar

[brave marten]

honestly should've given them to Aino

[brave marten]

for me nightsoul at its worst is still better than lunar at its best

[vivid wasp]

I can get behind them adding a new "element" in Khaenri'ah, but after the whole Lunar schtick I don't expect the reactions to be good.

[brave marten]

me neither

[thick oyster]

It's going to be some bullshit

[brave marten]

if it's like dendro back in Sumeru

welcome

but it won't be

[vivid wasp]

Uh, anyway, sort of lore talk
What do you guys supposed is the lore on ||these stellar reactions||
From what I've been hearing from you guys we don't have a lot of information on them but like just making assumptions

[brave marten]

back when

we talked with Columbina

[thick oyster]

Probably something to do with Voyager

If I had to guess

[brave marten]

and she said the Tsaritsa is more than a cryo archon or something

[thick oyster]

Or the Fae/Cryo Sovereign

[brave marten]

I'm guessing that's what she meant

[thick oyster]

She has a power not even she fully understands or something like that

[brave marten]

yeah that was it

it's definitely stellar

[thick oyster]

Mhm

[brave marten]

I wonder how they're going to explain Sandrone being able to use it tho

and the other characters

[thick oyster]

She modified it into her tech I guess

And Tartaglia will probably be given it too

Arle as well if there's a Pyro reaction

[brave marten]

I hope so

but Sandrone her tech

what about Arle and Tartaglia

[thick oyster]

They probably just won't explain it or act like they had it the whole time lol

Or best case scenario - Hexerei style quest

[brave marten]

that's what I think too

[thick oyster]

Wonder if Wanderer will get it too

[brave marten]

"traveler Dottore and Sandrone managed to make us even more powerful, come help get this new power"

[brave marten]

zero chance

he's genuinely considered a Sumeru unit

[thick oyster]

Yeah

[brave marten]

and he's tied to the hip to Faruzan anyways

they'll shine when we get Akademiya buffs

[thick oyster]

Durin and Nicole have also been helping his numbers

[brave marten]

yeah they're lowk the best team for all anemo dpses rn

except Chasca I think

but I'm not sure

[vivid wasp]

Well
The new like, artifact set in 6.6, is apparently a ||superconduct set, and there's a mention of how in Snezhnaya it will get more features or smth, which is probably the stellar reactions||

And while speculating on the elements specific reactions are made of isn't like, very uhh, effective? In a trying to figure out what it means perspective, I was coping thinking it could give us some Inazuma lore?
Again, it's not an accurate prediction because Lunar-Charged didn't give us Inazuma lore, but I was thinking

[brave marten]

I doubt it honestly

unless like

the Electro sovereign is in Snezhnaya or something

I genuinely doubt it

[vivid wasp]

Tsurumi Island is based of Ainu/Indigenous Japanese culture, and some Ainu people reside in southeastern Russia

I know it's copium because I just really want Tsurumi Island lore but I thought I'd bring it up.

[thick oyster]

My only cope for Inazuma is that they will reveal that the Electro Sovereign's kingdom is like, underwater or something and that's why it's been completely hidden until now

[vivid wasp]

That would be cool
I do really want more Inazuma expansions...

[thick oyster]

We still have to find out about the "war" Ei wants to fight

[vivid wasp]

It is mentioned that Osial has an underwater Kingdom between Liyue and Inazuma

[vivid wasp]

Explain, I forgot what it was about

[brave marten]

I was about to bring that up, wasn't that like in some event in Fontaine?

[thick oyster]

In a Inazuma event like 2 years ago Ei mentions to Yae that a war is coming and she's going to fight it in with her kingdom or something

That's about it

It was treated like a cliffhanger at the time

[thick oyster]

Not Fontaine

During 4.X. though I believe

[vivid wasp]

Ehhhhh
I'd imagine its probably hinting at the Snezhnaya chapter and shit hitting the fan for all the nations

[brave marten]

same

probably the celestia war

[thick oyster]

Yeah but no other Archon has mentioned it

[brave marten]

wasn't Venti preparing for something too in his Hex quest

[thick oyster]

Was he?

Oh yeah

Now I remember

[brave marten]

I think so

[thick oyster]

He also mentioned Capitano

[brave marten]

Zhongli also implied something in the Zibai quedt

quest

that it wasn't just because she's a friend of his

[thick oyster]

And genuinely fucking said that Mavuika had a fucking "stand-off" with Ronova like Mavuika actually fucking did anything

God they're still sucking her off

[brave marten]

he said that? 😭

[thick oyster]

Yep

[brave marten]

how do I not remember I'd lowk crash out

[thick oyster]

Your brain is more merciful than mine

[brave marten]

my brain blocked it because I love Venti

😭

[vivid wasp]

This has reminded me of something else, albeit not related to Raiden especifically
But her voiceline on Mavuika is still very interesting to me
I still don't think that whoever it was that made that rift in Khaenri'ah is Mavuika though

But it is one big mystery about her

Because she never mentions going to Khaenri'ah

[thick oyster]

Venti is cool like 90% of the time

But his relationship to the Fatui is still weird

[brave marten]

need to read it again

[brave marten]

yeah

[thick oyster]

Yeah she just said that the "Pyro Archon" left a lot of devastation equal to the Musou Hitachi

[brave marten]

i didn't like what he said about Signora

in the 6.4 event

[thick oyster]

That one made sense at least

[vivid wasp]

Yeah

Like he has his reasons to be mad at her

[thick oyster]

From an in character perspective

Also it was kind of the truth low-key

[vivid wasp]

Careful

The Signora mains are out to get you know

[thick oyster]

I'm a Capitano main they already hate us all for some reason

[vivid wasp]

For what 😭 😭

Bro we are in this shitshow together

[thick oyster]

I DON'T KNOW
I just hear them constantly talking shit about how Signora got two gnoses and Cap didn't

[vivid wasp]

Hey at least Capitano is coming back and Signora isn't

[brave marten]

after reading the voiceline I'm lowk gonna dismiss it because it just sounds like another round of Mavuika glaze without substance

[thick oyster]

I wish we should just said she and Mavuika are equals because then I could scale Capitano to her and Prime Capitano way above her

[brave marten]

sure but hearing it from Venti specifically

is ehhh

[brave marten]

I think him of all people should understand why she became the person she is

[brave marten]

powerscaler smh 🥀

[thick oyster]

Varka would have had an interesting reaction to her

Considering he had sympathy for even Roland

Base Rerir? 😭

[brave marten]

yeah

[brave marten]

pre sinner Rerir

[thick oyster]

I know

Arlecchino was descended from royalty so she probably has more powers that the average doesn't

[brave marten]

wait they said she is?

[thick oyster]

Well her lore and spear imply it

Though it's kind of unclear
Were the CM a race or just a dynasty?

Because a dynasty is just a single family
But the AQ treats it like an entire group

[ebon iris]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HEg_7wUWkAAdrX7.webp

[thick oyster]

Still Capitano would be stronger
Since he was equal to all 4 pillars including Hroptatyr

The 4 pillars?

No

[brave marten]

I think it's like one of those ancient chinese dynasties where they had a lot of children and the blood got diluted enough to get Tholindis

[thick oyster]

Capitano wasn't a pillar nor a CM member

He was just equal to the Pillars

Also Rerir only hunted CM descendants

[thick oyster]

Possibly
But they mention that they had "fortresses" that Rerir apparently raided too

His records only show him hunting CM members

That was just bureaucracy work

Not assassination

Because Surtalogi is still alive

[brave marten]

could be one of the direct descendants having a lot of protection but they also kept watch on people like Tholindis in case they all got offed by Rerir

[thick oyster]

He did other things too
He was undercover

[ebon iris]

he did a case thing for surtalogi

[thick oyster]

It couldn't have been assassination

[ebon iris]

uhh okay

why are u pushing papers LMAO

[thick oyster]

Yeah we should learn more eventually

[brave marten]

hopefully

[thick oyster]

Also they experimented on aliens like Perinheri to give them powers too

So their descendants should also be counted among them

[brave marten]

hmm guess we'll have to wait until Khaenriah to know more

[ebon iris]

is perinheri an outsider

[brave marten]

papers are planetary level

[thick oyster]

Man it's only about a year or so from now
Crazy to think

[thick oyster]

I think Arle said so

[brave marten]

what the fuck

[thick oyster]

I thought he wasn't

[brave marten]

you're fucking with me

holy fuck Khaenriah is in one year

[thick oyster]

After Snezhnaya is Khaenri'ah

[ebon iris]

yea bro in a year well get khaenriah teaser

man

thats insane

[brave marten]

bro I forgot 😭 😭

[thick oyster]

Unless Nod-Krai 2 comes out

[brave marten]

oh that reminds me

[thick oyster]

Sinner Lazzo

[ebon iris]

what if we were technologically advanced civilizations that wanted to defy the heavens and we held hands.....?

[thick oyster]

That's what Pierro and Tsaritsa are doing

Please become playable king

[ebon iris]

okay truth nvke

[brave marten]

I genuinely had a dream of Mare Jivari having its own patch cycle like NK did between Snezhnaya and Khaenriah and the archon figure was Enjou

[ebon iris]

oh he will

after we beat his ass or something idfk

[thick oyster]

That would be so good

[thick oyster]

No we won't beat him
The main boss will be Ronova probably

[brave marten]

genuinely been deluding myself into it being true since I had that dream

[thick oyster]

It's a natural progression

[ebon iris]

ah i see the delusional dreaming is common then

[brave marten]

I'm still convinced Pierro is going to be a weekly boss in Snezhnaya

[ebon iris]

that was not the right message to respond to lmao woops

[thick oyster]

Also it would mean time travel would allow dead characters to become playable

Man

[ebon iris]

based on the fatui merch thing? i could see it

[thick oyster]

Now I want it to happen

[brave marten]

yes

he's the only one left

[thick oyster]

Maybe the second boss before Khaenri'ah

[brave marten]

same 😭 😭

[ebon iris]

like a nation that dreams of dreaming......

sibling is gonna fuck up khaenriahs ressurection

i can feel it in my bones

[thick oyster]

I love Enjou so much and I want him to get more screen time too

[ebon iris]

we need to smack our sibling for fucking it up and we gotta clean up the mess ourselves

[brave marten]

could be, I just hope it isn't some bs where he's a villain

[thick oyster]

He is the Pyro Sovereign I know it

[brave marten]

same but I also want the story to be extended

[thick oyster]

He's helped up on two separate occasions now
Plus he left the Abyss Order

[thick oyster]

They've been including more World Quest characters frequently

Like Jeht is in the new quests too

[ebon iris]

i can see that

[thick oyster]

No not the Sibling

[brave marten]

thing is how will they address the bullshit the Fatui have been doing without blaming at least one kf them

[brave marten]

Liloupar's in the trailer too

[thick oyster]

You're not gonna like what I have to say
....But I think Dottore is low-key the sacrificial lamb

[thick oyster]

Yeah

[ebon iris]

racist lamp racist lamp 🎉

[brave marten]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1424211643428110397/1503861035239608456/518344175_122196193796291774_804870269089870576_n-ezgif.com-webp-to-gif-converter.gif

[ebon iris]

not lowkey

[brave marten]

don't even joke lad

[ebon iris]

highkey is

[brave marten]

I wanna hear her talk

and say that racist shit

[ebon iris]

you can hear her talk

[brave marten]

like spit your racist shit I wanna hear it

[thick oyster]

Cause if they wanted to make Pierro the scapegoat I feel like they would have him more outwardly evil

[brave marten]

https://tenor.com/view/red-hearing-peak-gif-185358842424781252

[ebon iris]

he is THE groomer bro thats pretty evil as it gets

[thick oyster]

An abusive mother on part with Queen Marika

[thick oyster]

Nah he isn't the groomer

[brave marten]

can't they like do something where both the Tsaritsa and Pierro are guilty without making either a sacrificial lamb

[thick oyster]

But grooming is ok in Genshin cause Arle does it

[brave marten]

he is

bro is like

hacker level groomer

[ebon iris]

bro he is THE king groomer

[brave marten]

pro level Dottore

and then Arle

[ebon iris]

bro got arle

dottore

[thick oyster]

That would be what a normal story teller does

But
These people aren't normal

[brave marten]

they learned grooming from the master groomer 😭

[thick oyster]

He just offered Dottore a j*b

[brave marten]

he went to him at his lowest point in life

[thick oyster]

Crucabena did that

[brave marten]

as well as Arle

as well as uh

who else

[thick oyster]

I mean Dottore did that on his own

[thick oyster]

Indirectly Scaramouche too

[brave marten]

hate genshin fans

[vivid wasp]

Sorry I'm just coming back to reading the messages but HUH?

[thick oyster]

Yeah she's mentioned in the trailer

[brave marten]

it was still his lowest point in life

[brave marten]

liloupar too

[thick oyster]

They ran him out of town

[brave marten]

Jeht and Liloupar in the same quest again

amd this time voiced

[thick oyster]

Pierro just offered him a job though

[brave marten]

do you know how peak that is

[vivid wasp]

Racist lamp my beloved

[brave marten]

omg fellow racist lamp fan?

[vivid wasp]

Goddamn it, don't make me excited for 6.6

[thick oyster]

Nah this is the king groomer

[brave marten]

yeah we killed your father for bus fare, and then we walked

[thick oyster]

He wouldn't have been welcomed back

[brave marten]

me

I'm there too

[ebon iris]

HAH

[thick oyster]

He was wandering in the desert when Pierro found him

[vivid wasp]

There used to be a guy on reddit, idk if they are still active, but they were the Liloupar main
Like every comment and post on their account was thirsting for her, it was so fucking funny
Anyways yeah I do like Liloupar she's funny

[brave marten]

based guy bro

NEXT EPISODE IN A FEW HOURS

[vivid wasp]

And possibly Lisa
I mean she has like a lamp in her burst idk

[thick oyster]

Exile from Academy

She would get along with Apep if they weren't racist to each other

[brave marten]

wait did Apep appear in the trailer

[thick oyster]

Yes

[brave marten]

you're not the only one

[brave marten]

Apep

[thick oyster]

Yeah and he went to desert too

[brave marten]

APEP PLEASE DO SOMETHING

[thick oyster]

She'll probably help regrow Irminsul

[ebon iris]

fuck ur reminding me

[brave marten]

imagine if burning the Irminsul destroys the dendro throne and the authoroty goes back to Apep ahaha imagine guys

[thick oyster]

Dottore didn't have a tribe

[ebon iris]

nothings gonna happen btw

[brave marten]

WHAT

you're kidding right

[thick oyster]

Zandik didn't join a tribe
He was freshly exiled

[ebon iris]

nothing ever happens in these episodes bro come on

[brave marten]

oh yeah

they'll all live bro

[thick oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-nothing-look-at-the-time-nothing-clock-nothing-ever-happens-clock-gif-4518983960573307132

[brave marten]

yeah they're smart

my friend saw a leak on tiktok unfiltered

😭

[vivid wasp]

Reminds me that Apep had given a sort of forshadowing of Natlan in Nahida's second story quest
which means more Mare Jivari copium

[thick oyster]

We do though

[vivid wasp]

Nicole's trailer?

[brave marten]

no

Dottore pv mayhaps (I don't believe it)

[vivid wasp]

Is it confirmed...?

[brave marten]

no it's based on the dates from his notes in 6.1's event

wait

[vivid wasp]

Oh

[brave marten]

does the patch drop on the 20th or 19th for CN?

[thick oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/akakichi-no-eleven-bro-bad-news-i've-got-bad-news-for-you-hand-on-shoulder-gif-4737126791591033318

Then he was recruited

By Pierro

We might get a Sandrone video soon

[thick oyster]

When did she do that?

[ebon iris]

yall can we get our fucking nicole and lohen promo videos first

before we ask about dottore and sandrone

[vivid wasp]

We might get a Mare Jivari video that also comes with Tsurumi Island lore and Golden Hall lore soon

[brave marten]

Lohen's should be in 21 days

around there

cz he's second half

so nah he's later

[thick oyster]

I hope Nicole's teaser is good

[ebon iris]

ok then we need nicole

[thick oyster]

And shows the Funerary Year

[ebon iris]

cause she aint got shit yet

[brave marten]

I'm gonna bet her teaser is gonna be about a Hexenzirkel tea party

[thick oyster]

Honestly yeah possibly

I know I meant like in a month

[brave marten]

you know thought what we MIGHT get soon?

[vivid wasp]

It's not exactly a reference to Natlan, but the phrasing here is very similar to what Dainsleif says in the travail trailer, with the rules of war and what not.

[brave marten]

a video like god's limits

[ebon iris]

5 SINNERS PV

[brave marten]

2 weeks after 6.6 drops

[ebon iris]

5 SINNERS PV

[brave marten]

sure could be

[ebon iris]

5 SINNERS RAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[thick oyster]

Hell yeah

[thick oyster]

Source?

[ebon iris]

https://tenor.com/view/5-sinners-rhinedottir-hroptatyr-vedrfolnir-genshin-gif-7340061415969683188

[brave marten]

hope

yeah 😭

[thick oyster]

Fair

Yeah I know it was before Nod-Krai

[ebon iris]

it was after traveler/dain quest

[brave marten]

and something very major is happening next quest

[thick oyster]

So if we get another PV it'll be before Snezhnaya

[brave marten]

hopefully something like gods limits 2 weeks after 6.6 and 2 weeks after it the Snezhnaya teaser

[thick oyster]

Best design of the Shades

Ngl

[thick oyster]

Idk what group they would reveal though
I feel like the Sinners PV will come before Khaenri'ah

[ebon iris]

they have to

so we can finally know what the fuck hroptatyr is up to

[thick oyster]

Possibly in Snezhnaya

[ebon iris]

unless we get a glimpse of someone like octavia, kleiner

[brave marten]

yo im lowk thinking Hroptatyr might be retired and living his life in a farm

[ebon iris]

anyone outside of teyvat

[thick oyster]

Cause we know the Abyss is there

[thick oyster]

Honestly my crackpot theory is that he and Pierro are sharing a body
I have two theories in which Pierro's body is being shared damn

[brave marten]

yeah keep throwing darts until one hits

[thick oyster]

I mean he has a duality theme

[brave marten]

it'll turn out his body houses a dragonlord or something

[thick oyster]

Or he's just a random Khaenri'ahn

[brave marten]

ik I just find it funny

[brave marten]

imagine it turns out he isn't that guy mentioned in 6.1's AQ

don't remember how to write his name

[thick oyster]

Eftirvit yeah

Honestly I think he might be a red herring

[brave marten]

I thought it too

I don't like the concept of Pierro holding a grudge towards Hroptatyr

I'm just reminded of the Varka animation

🥀

[vivid wasp]

I think all shades designs suck ass

[brave marten]

same

especially Ronova

[vivid wasp]

Especially Ronova

[thick oyster]

They're mostly mid

[vivid wasp]

LMAO

[brave marten]

BRO?

[vivid wasp]

We're so in sync

[brave marten]

it was so funny 😭 😭

[thick oyster]

Yeah her's is good too

[vivid wasp]

Mostly is an understatement imo

[brave marten]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1424211643428110397/1503861035239608456/518344175_122196193796291774_804870269089870576_n-ezgif.com-webp-to-gif-converter.gif

I wish Ronova stayed an eye

[thick oyster]

Asmoday will get a redesign

Probably

[brave marten]

I remember playing that quest in Natlan

[ebon iris]

i wish ronova looked more fucked up

but alas

[brave marten]

bored out of my fucking mind seeinf the celebrations after beating the boss

and then saw an eye in the sky and locked the fuck in

[thick oyster]

She should've looked like Yhwach ngl

https://tenor.com/view/bleach-tybw-thousand-year-blood-war-cour-3-ironsilver-gif-8244209662821625686

Including the mustache

[brave marten]

she won't sell if they do her like that

fuckint annoying fans

[vivid wasp]

Same
The fact that she looks like she's going to be short model doesn't help either
Like, she was so intimidating as just the eye but what they did to her is just urgh

[brave marten]

I wish, they put all the eyes in those excuses of wings

[thick oyster]

Except for male characters occasionally

Never for the girls

[vivid wasp]

I'm fine with that, more reasons for me to hate her

[brave marten]

I'm not even fucking I was genuinely about to delete the game wgen the part of the traveler dancing came up

[ebon iris]

she doesnt even need to be monstrous i just need her to have more proper symbolism in her design

like a castorice ribcage kinda dress

[queen prawn]

Columbina copyrighted that

[ebon iris]

a proper mourning veil

instead of whatever the fucks hanging off her back hair

[thick oyster]

They did that fucking bullshit instead of give Capitano more backstory btw

A veil would look nice on her actually

[queen prawn]

It is unique

Like Alice hat

[brave marten]

don't remind me, I didn't realize it was Ronova for a bit because the design was so disappointing

[queen prawn]

Look weird but unique design I have ever seen

[thick oyster]

Sort of like the reverse of that one meme image mocking gachas

[vivid wasp]

Implying I care about Pirrro

[brave marten]

reminds me of the version art having Capitano with the traveler and Mavuika and then playing the entire quest and boss thinking "wait when's Capitano coming to help" 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[thick oyster]

She genuinely got trauma over him looking at her bruh

[brave marten]

bro gives ZERO fucks if you're not named Mare Jivari

[thick oyster]

I hope Da Wei gets shot again

[ebon iris]

meanwhile genshin here has roland who has less polygons than more recent female genshin npcs like celaeno and tholindis

the bar truly sometimes feels like its in hell for genshin npcs

and diluc is sitting with it

[thick oyster]

That why they only release three males per year

[brave marten]

@vivid wasp wait did I tell you about my dream about Mare Jivari 😭

[thick oyster]

He was mogging her

[vivid wasp]

I read it yes lol

[brave marten]

kinda wish it happens

[thick oyster]

Well we did get Kukulkan so it balances out

[brave marten]

Pierro can look at me all he wants

[ebon iris]

they gon release one male in season 3 bro 😭 and its the guy voiced by rerir

[vivid wasp]

Well I hate Enjou so apart from the part of him being the Archon I'm fine with everything else

[brave marten]

WHAT

why do you hate Enjou

[vivid wasp]

I just hate him

[ebon iris]

hating peak

[vivid wasp]

I find him annoying