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is it coincidence or ronova intervened only when she was about to spill
It was already destroyed when ronova came and rhine was using her powers to gather information when ronova tells her to not litter other's space with her bizarre creatures
The space was created by asmoday and was destroyed by her too
Kinda weird ngl i was like p7 or p8 before
Which is why rhine makes observation that the entire space it tainted by ruler of space
i never got to be staff but close...
Also the creation inside that space like that old woman and other children were given history by istaroth
Actually she didn't destroy the space but the creation inside it
Ronova was the one who later destroyed the space...minute difference there I guess
and asmoday's lingering power tainted rhine's creations
it was istaroth who suggests the swapped allegiences
rhine also picks it up and lauds it as interesting
yeah
istaroth suggests she switched sides
so the existence of an alternative is true
What would the alternative to celestia be ?
my guess is asmoday left to serve the true god nibelung, or the voyager after having found her gnosis ?
I doubt it's them tbh
Hroptatyr on the other hand is more likely since they're in direct opposition to phanes both representing reason
Although that assuming another master exist and not just red herring
Apparently it's another name for odin
the abyss is a very possible answer too
yep
it is
hence my odin problem
irmin is also another name for odin
And since they're the last sinner yet to be revealed they clearly have important role
in gnosticism the true god is the one who created the world and is present within each human and be reached through gnosis
ig nibelung reincarnation or hroap like u said tracks
and we get to hear every sinner's voic
voice in the flashback
they didnt reveal his voice alone
surtr isnt there too
Surtologi- Black Serpent Knight captain
Dainsleif - Royal Guard captain
Rhiendottir- Chief Alchemist
Hroaptatyr- Royal Sage
Rerir -???
Is the midsommar somain the only one to share the same layout as spiral abyss and also have a moon ?
I think its safe to say now that spiral abyss is located at the borders of teyvat
It's a tower that reaches the sky sort of thing...
Tower of babel or something isnt it ?
Yeah seems like that's the inspiration behind it
There are two such towers
One is spiral abyss which succeeded
The other is the pillar of hiisi
The latter failed
Khaenriah could have had one
That led into their abyss or crimson moon
Gimme that Xilonen
Then that's what it is, you were p8 and talked a lot 
Was trying to remember your name and why I recognized it
S. A. M. P. O.
P. A. I. M. O. N.
A. S. I. M. O. N.
- Subatomic Assembling Mass-Energy Patterning Orb
- Algorithm of Semi-Intransient Matrix of Overseer Network
- Type-L Self-Regulating Overseer Array Integrated Processing Unit
What would be paimon then?
Just add primordial to P and rest take from others 
Primordial Active Ingenious Mechanical Orbiting Nugget
Oh right that's what the Sampo Mill artifact was all about
Primordial Angelic Intelligence for Multiversal Observation and Navigation
Aka: GPS
What if the Crimson Moon wasn’t just a symbol… but a god that shaped Natlan’s forgotten past?
In this video, we dive deep into the lost legends of the Lord of the Crossroads, the curse of Sanhaj Kompore, and the mysterious Shuttle of Odara.
From ancient stone tablets to the shattered moon now hanging over Natlan — every clue points to a...
Been thinking of the skirk trailer end
Where the camera pans to traveller’s drawing of asmoday
Like i get that its to show she has been an observer for longer than realised
But what if it was to tease or build up Asmoday’s mystery
Hold on,this sound close
Why are these lore ytber name sound ridiculous
fr they sound like they are from 2016
@odd thicket have you read boar princess?
I think ur reading into it too much
I love how the MC just moves on from interlude quests as if nothing happened
"What the fuck theres a dead body praying to an upside down statue of venti" and like 20 minutes later "Oh hi hu tao wassup"
"Oh my god my sibling used the loom of fate to reweave the leylines of khaenri'ah" and 20 minutes later "Ay ineffa you a robot or some shit?"
like
yup
good pacing
smooth transition
Not yet but ill do so now
I would agree if there werent purposeful notes left to tease about asmoday ‘s mystery
So i did and its pretty weird
I cant put a finger on who each character could be
The spirit of the snowstorm is certainly celestia imo
Or fae
Fae most likely now since it's also far north where they live according to story
Then there's the wolf cub which got cursed by eating wavakawoof or something
This is andrius and most probably the so called curse is related to moon
Boar princess is still a mystery though
I don't think we have anything about any kind of princess who lived in mondstad...
The wolf cub after getting cursed left the forest which should be wolfendom and went to frozen far North which we now can guess at least is forest of lake amrvatnir
Cause that's also where the wolf is mentioned
Curse from
Moon or abyss ?
Still no snowfield in signt
"Rumor has it that a great eternal power rests at Wolvendom, watching over the wolves... "
This is from his boss description... This eternal power could be moon related
Yeah I don't think the story is literal or anything but just gave us some insight on connection between the andrius and nod krai
Or his association with moon related power
"It is said that its powers were given to it by an ancient god. "
Koitar or aria or frostmoon
"A bit of the Great Wolf King of the North's power drawn from its soul. This land was once a realm of sub-zero blizzards and ice storms filled with razor-sharp ice shards, all at the command of Boreas. "
Actually the North of mondstad itself was also frozen once upon a time so maybe it's not nod krai either but mondatad itself...
He has frost powers alongside anemo so most likely it's the frostmoon goddess
Yeah and only frostmoon was kind to wolves
And decabrian could control the weather to some extent too
I don't remember that
Didn't he just put up shield to protect his kingdom from andrius froststorm
Ig this could be hinting at a snez expansion too
Oh yes
He did preserve the weather within the dome
Wait a minute
Decabrian echoes Primordial One
Sheznaya must be pretty big to go from mondstad all upto nod krai border
Actually there should be a port in between
There has to be a siberia snd greenland adaptation somewhere so
Decarabian had storm powers andrius had that alongside frost powers clearly the later was given to him by ancient god aka moon goddess
Plus all wolves mourn the moon
Which reminds me
Could the rifthounds mourn the crimson ?
nvm they arent true beings
met the tolfin dude in nasha town again
he just knows everything LMAO
he recall all the adventures we got through the journey of each nation
the fuck he just lore drop
this part is abt the previous cryo archon
seems like there is some war
CHERNOBOG???
this part is abt reed miller. everyone knows this
bro this guy only yap abt reed miller or somethin💀
While his historical authenticity as a deity is debated by scholars, he is commonly associated with the "evil" side of a supposed dichotomy with a "white god," Belobog.
Belobog is real in genshin
Hsr is leaking into genshin

he yaps some more abt reed miller
alright i thnk thats it
the options rebooted to the start
"The first cup, to the heartbeat no noose could stifle" goes insanely hard
the previous cryo archon is something something related to belobog, if not we got a God of Light in contrast to God of Darkness
I mean yeah
If there's chernobog as a god in genshin I would hope they'd include belobog too, I just thought it was funny because belobog already exists in HSR
i will just leave the screenshot of his entire dialogue here
Thank you for sharing those screenshots
I haven't encountered this dude yet I think, so the whole dialogue about the tsar is interesting
in order: Mondstadt old war, Xiao's past, Deshret regime, Remus and ock kan
all of these subjects has relevance to the abyss
and the world of teyvat
just so yknow
all of these topics has no conclusion yet
then the remaining like what is up there is the old cryo archon war with the god of darkness and seems likee they lost. and the 3 tails abt reed miller
bro casually drop lore in the middle of nowhere
So there is a god of darkness with the name chernobog, who could be connected to the abyss considering the "darkness" aspect to their name and being in control of hounds (rift hounds, maybe?) and that their war was lost- but then I'm curious where they're at presently since they seem to be thriving to some extent with how expensive the tsaritsa's army is and the strength of the harbingers
Yeah 😭
I mean, the abyss has been a recurring thing since the beginning of the game so I'm not surprised
But it is surprising to see him mention that they actually lost
Because that would make them the first region to have lost against the abyss and come back
we met him during the Whale quest iin nodkrai
I haven't done it yet lol
how tf he knows all of these💀
Idk what whale you mean
Could be very well versed in history?
I mean, all of this stuff could literally be in history books
And passed down verbally through generations
yeah thats true. but still
we as the audience dk all of these
and cuz of this, im going to reread the whale quest
the quest is abt him making up a game to make us find the proof of cognoscenti after he hides it
since hes just an npc yet he give us some lore drop. im just going to reread it to make sure hes not being sus like enjou
Like Xiao is pretty damn famous and what happened to the other yaksha, old mondstadt is well known in history and has books written on it (including Alice's travel guide), the sumeru one doesn't really explain the history like the others it seems? Mostly just talking about the desert and the past buried/lost beneath the sand which a lot of characters in sumeru know about and are even writing research papers on, the fontaine one I'm actually unsure about because I've gleaned almost everything from my memory except for furina, the natlan one is also well known amongst the people I feel, right?
^ me just rattling off because now I can't remember really
Enjoy
this one needs to be brought up to the Archon of Lore Ashikai or just anyone who is well-versed in piecing all the details in lore together
i stop following all of these entirely

my twitter is not made public tho
i remembered shes in the genshin lore server
i will see
Belyi tsar fighting God of darkness, most likely it's the wild hunts is the events of 500 years ago with mad monk
A god of darkness ?
Apparently named chernobog which is a Slavic(?) god of darkness and winter
Ig it is also abyss
Could they call abyss that in sneznaya ?
The rifthounds are of the dark and can be called hounds
Describing the cataclysm i suppose
probably
i wouldnt undermine the information about the god of darkness when theres a name above the title tho
Becaude the only other time the pitch black mud is described in thr same sentence as the tsar is in NSU or Bloodsoaked Ruins wherein he dies to it
Yeah
Curious
This was right after solovei murders the Fae responsible for his brother’s death and Rautvangi’s designs
I think
He's not the one who kills it's his own brother who got consumed by abyss and turned to "beast" that killed the nobles...
"The loyal guard was consumed by "beasts," creature of pure darkness bereft of intellect, for the crime of glimpsing the secret of the philosophers.
His younger brother, who had left to quell distant unrest, returned to a world already covered in deep snow.
But instead of its customary silver-white feathers, the spear he found now wore the black stain of noble blood."
loyal guard here is elder brother and when younger brother returned he found the white spear already turned black with noble blood
This chernobog, god of darkness is either abyss itself or referring to mad monk after he fell in abyss
since this info is coming from world quest npc i'm leaning towards the later case...
according to irl myth dark god chernobyl is direct opposite to white god belebog yeah? then this could be in contrast to mad monk and reed miller being the respective "gods"...
"Earth and water, wind and fire, craft for me what I desire"
In Aristotelian physics and Greek astronomy, the sublunary sphere is the region of the geocentric cosmos below the Moon, consisting of the four classical elements: earth, water, air, and fire.

I think this is the inspiration behind false sky...
so his brother was punished in a experimet gone wrong, and the creatured killed the executioners ?
and reed miller is always likene to silver
What did Rerir do here actually?
That's not the actual attack, more like he set up the area around him
Like he opened a rift to the abyss or something?
dori is khaenri'ahn guys those eyes tell us everything we need to know
The owner of the Curatorium of Secrets is not only a skilled storyteller, but also a very keen listener.
After all, the more stories you hear, the easier it is to spot the inconsistencies.
Chinese Voice-Over Video: https://youtu.be/Ozg3rzXkoVc
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I'm loving these fluid 2D animations they've been adding in to the teasers
women are hot
yeah, he is spreading abyss temporarily there
It is like Arlechinno transformation explosion that did nothing
It did make some wall fall but that explosion was way too big just for some rocks
But like pi said,although is probably his "domain" instead of spreading abyss
Like how wild hunt area get darker (in the quest)
This always kinda bothered me about character explanation
Transformation*
Columbina's lullaby has been stuck in my head at work for the last like 2 hours and I can't tell if that's a good or a bad thing
Originally started thinking of the song to get "I want it that way" by the backstreet boys out of my head after that was stuck for several hours 
Wasn't expecting that to just take its place
Fuck now I want it that way is back to being the one stuck in my head 😭
Very real
I sing it in my head during my military training whenever I do boring stuff
Bina and Rerir real final fight will be peak with their domain expansion
And of course Rerir is getting jump
Yee, it was nice having the lullaby and try to remember the lyrics, but I fucked myself and went back to backstreet boys and it won't stop 
I wish our music was working
soo
how come Kinich didnt have legendarily bad luck while in fontaine?
if that's just something that happens to Natlanians outside natlan
That happened after the archon quest in natlan, right?
Because after fixing the leylines and everything, the curse was essentially lifted
That's why we were able to have half the natlan cast in fontaine for that one event
Friend
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You wanna read what I have?
Canonically it happened after the war and the leyline was "fix" so now Natlanese can leave without becoming mentally unstable
Bennett bad luck wasn't because he is outside Natlan,he was cursed by the Abyss I think
So when he came back it tried to lure him and kill him
sure go ahead
It was because he was never introduced to the wayob
For lack of a better word
As to why abyss tried to kill him it was because he defied fate and he wasn’t supposed to even be alive
I mean,it is still a curse the Abyss put on him(his constellation),they wanted him dead,don't know why they care about his fate when it isnt their business lmao
death isnt fate
though
the abyss wanted his soul and he escaped it
👀 yea same same
it just corrupted his fate or tried to cosplay as it
Do we remember who introduced him to the wayob was it mualani or chasca
Or mav
nobodyy
idt bennett ever went to a wayob
He rejected the proposal
It's probably how his bad luck will continue i think
He rejected staying in natlan is all I remember
If his luck goes bad again I’ll cry
Our lucky star has endured enough
They said he could join any tribe which implies he would've been registered into the night kingdom
Maybe they'll not do the bad luck thing anymore and actually cure him won't know until they rerun him in events or something
I dont mind though,genshin isnt hsr where there is 5* with another version and then another 
Personally dont think they should remove his bad luck,but make it less terrible is better, because it doesn't change the entire character and I dont believe they will ever make 5* version of a 4*
@worldly rain interesting theory for first angel and night mother
Also circling back to columbina angel theory
Interesting theory...
From what I understand reading skirk artifacts...
The angels descended from the light and their crown were forged using seven fold raidance and had the command that compelled then to love humanity equally or something
Until voyager shattered the illusion and the crown shattered and was casted aside by the first angel
However I don't see night mother relation here with PO simply because shades have been in direct opposition to abyss so wouldn't make sense for their counter part aka phanes to be of abyss nature
"It was an age when the unknowing masses still bowed to the sky's decrees, when the dawn star's royal court still hung high above the clouds.
Magnificent, noble creations descended from the light itself, and the mortals — unable to look upon their true visages — called them angels. "
Also another thing, here it implies dawn daughter aka first angel's royal court already existed in the sky before the "magnificent creatures" aka angels descended from the light...so first angel was already present before other angels were created?
@odd thicket
If so that would imply PO just like he did with moon sisters also took control of first angel too 
"I call upon Koitar, wife of Seutervoinen and first, fairest daughter of the creator god.. "
Is the creator God nibelung? Or PO?
there is one other case to argue for abyss with Pojhola being where PO was
anyway the night mother implication was that she is jealouus and pettty like the PO
it seems the angels had their court in the skies an eventually descended onto teyvat
Creator god to the frostmoon scions is just Nibelung
nobody else
Makes me think if the so called celestia we see in the sky is actually Royal court of angel while real celestia is outside the false sky and can't be seen
the shades trailer does confirm this
@odd thicket also do you know of sublunary spehere?
sublanary means belonging to the planet
and yes it is a metaphor or name for the false skies
In Aristotelian physics and Greek astronomy, the sublunary sphere is the region of the geocentric cosmos below the Moon, consisting of the four classical elements: earth, water, air, and fire. The sublunary sphere was the realm of changing nature.
This is what I'm talking about
OHHH
skirk set would then imply that the shades are its four pillars
the welkin moon is the within the sphere
and the real moon above it
See how it says earth fire water air.... Do you know what you see when you go to craft station in genshin?
i think i mentioned it here before
that something was wrong with asmoday, hence the borders are failing , a year ago
shaky reasoning but on point
the dialogue, yes
Also the old model of universe went something like this...
Earth at center moon above and then sun and the other 6 planet and stars
The interesting thing was that the region between the earth and the moon the one called sublunary sphere was the only one that had working physics
While the region outside the moon where all the plantes sun and star were was called region of ether which was static
See how it's sun and 6 other planet total of seven... The seven archon then
And if you read little witch book you can see the relation there where seven heavenly body aka planets (which includes the sun) and then extras which could be one, two, three or four
And if seven bodies are representative of archons then sun being zhongli makes sense now
little witch ?
Speaking of static sky aka region of ether that's what false sky is the stars are static
so the scenarios are flipped
Yeah the IT book
No it works similar
is it beside wolfy ?
Uh I don't remember check wiki
I think it was around the library there
It's scattered
hm
But in the same room
i argue otherwise because only with aether/ ether are they able to "change" or break cycles
I can paste the relevant dialogue from that book if you want although it's long
no wait ill look it up
There actually go read the notes first that's the only thing relavant there
Because there's been wrong en translation
Cn implies things differently
No no I meant the false sky works similarly as in the stars are static inside...
The rest of the cosmos is different yes but that's seperated by false sky
And the sublunary sphere as told by Aila is the one that's changing but not the sky as we see aka false sky
The inspiration behind false sky is exactly that irl old physics model of universe
it ddoesnt change that much
yeah now i can see the difference
so the archons are the celestial bodies apart from the sun that exert divine influene upon the world ?
It’s horror so it’s a bit spooky, so I might send it in dms instead
it cant be that spooky for this channel, would it ?
More like sun was part of the planet in those times...
So sun and the other 6 planets would form the 7 planets or something
Well not planets but celestial body
odd
lemme read up on this
so moon is a sign post between the world and the ether
the seven bodies exert influence upon the unchanging world beyond the sphere
"...Other planets refer to those celestial bodies as archons... we also call a will that comes down from the heavens an "archon."
More like the false sky is replicating the real world or something
It's like a world within world type of thing
So like how simulanka is a story within a story aka teyvat or something
False sky emulating the other worlds thereby acting self sustaining world
With irminsul being the command center or where the data and algorithm to create such world is stored
Ppl literally burn, it's a witch trail
Yes
Wait
I could spoiler it
yeah
a simulated universe
Here y’a go
traumatisingly fleshed out
without getting into the gore of it
also what is she doing in france ?
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i didnt notice dead kids in the trailer t
tf
@quick locust your statue is in the trailer
these are also in enka arent they
they mentione arlecchino has an ulterior motive in the trailer
couldd this be that ?
Wasn't this sandrone? I thought she was...
sandrone non chalantly gives it away
Random Traveler standing there
OH YEAH
yeah
You know witch trails happened in America too right?
But I didn’t specify the location
it did ? first i hear about them
ik lynching was common then, but not burnings
no i joked about france coz shes with navia and clorindde
ig this cements it as ffirst civilisation architecture
yeah 100%
How do we know they are dead for sure and not just asleep. 
Well then they would be immortal or hilichurls
But since it is always in civilisations that strayed from HP, could it be koitar or seutervoinen ?
Would it be an absurd link to call it Reed Miller?
Holding the bowl of a hand mill
I can't think of any other bowl symbolism that would fit
SAMPO mill ? Possibly
But it is a woman
Reed is a male
Unless they are an egg ofc
Seutervoinen was male for the rest of teyvat so it cant be them
That leaves just koitar
Koitar had some birth spell as well
Is it a woman?
I never noticed any gendered features
Unless I just didnt look at the chest or something idk
That's what I'm saying it fits quite well
The the bowl holding statues have breasts
The other lamp holding one has the outline
Ill revisit them
The first angel was very important in lore
I just checked on the image of the bowl statue and I couldn't see breasts
Maybe looking closer would help? But I just don't see any from here
It could be the angle or the quality though
If it has no breasts then I'm sticking with my Reed Miller theory
Yeah
If it has breasts then I'll assume it's a statue of what the heir was SUPPOSED to be, since they prophesised that the heir would be female
I could be wrong now looking at it
Either way holding a bowl doesn't really fit anyone else I can think of
The supposed heir was male no?
They mentioned a king of elysium
The prophesies used a gendered he him too iirc
Reed
Koitar
Seutervoinen
Three candidates all related to each other
I remember the prophecies being she/her but then the true heir being Reed Miller, therefore not fitting their expectations
Between that plus him being from an "impure" birth he was considered a false heir and not accepted
Seutervoinen could fit if it's demonstrating the creator of the sampo and not the heir to use it
I see no link for it to be Koitar though
I think you could be confused with the moon goddess role. Anyway will check the prophecies again
But yeah reed miller was never at the frostmoons
Even though he was impure, Lovia still wanted him and assumed he was dead after his mom took her own life
Koitar was the dawn star, eldest and fairest of heaven’s daughters
I might have mixed the two up I'm not sure
Childe’s bow harkens back to her
How does that align with a bowl though
She was the face of the rebellion pretty much
She could have held the sampo as well, by proximity to seutervoinen
First angel was dawn star though...
Koitar is First Angel
Oh I got her mixed with kutaar nvm 
Primordial One influenced Finns as the demiurge to create confusion centuries later
I feel like Sampo mill is going to be the equivalent of Huitzilopochtli but for nod krai
We'll see it in world quest only and never again 
It is definitely going that way
OHHHHH thought you meant the first part
Hmm either way I was mistaken you are right.
I’m so far proud of where it’s going,.
I’m doing Xilonen next and the two meet later
what is the backstory before the witch burning ?
Mavuika’s mother was a witch, and damn good one, and taught her daughters witchcraft, however it’s forbidden to do so, but since she saw witchcraft as a way in to be in tune with the world and mind, she didn’t stop.
Hine and Mavuika got caught doing witchcraft in the forest by a hunter, but they did all kinds of things.
When Mavuika emerged from a campfire 4 years ago? She didn’t come with her memories, she was just surrounded by campers who ran for the hills
She was found by Clorinde and Navia later
i have finished part 1 of the quest 
now to somehow finish part 2 before the extra rewards end
and eventually see rerir animated instead of through art and memes
i wasn't sure about nefer at first, but she's really grown on me as a character through these two quests lol
like she's not overly nice, giving stuff out without expecting anything in return and always has everything be transactional, but isn't afraid to make sure everything is beneficial to herself as well- without seeming like she's mischievous or super greedy/selfish
it's a nice balance
dude that choreography in the cutscene with the shadow was great
also, just how nonchalant flins is afterwards, turning around and basically going "hey, so... what's up?"
it was also really cool to hear flins speak in fae language
flins: "don't be afraid to put the room cost on my tab"
oh don't you worry bud, varka's got us covered for WEEKS
Kevin McCallister vibes
imagine if it was just because he was jealous of sousi's awesome prosthetic arm and wanted to pretend to have one for a short while
rerir arrives after crawling out of a giant deadly cocoon and is towering above both of them
flins, casually: "well, that's not good"

DUDE THAT FIGHT BETWEEN PULONIA AND RERIR WAS WICKED
Off topic
But how the fuck do you manage to forget your child twice??
Yes
@lilac coral they got the renders out for Varka’s model compared to older one
Want me to DM it?
Oh I already saw it 
I joined varka mains and someone posted the microwave in the leaks channel
He looks great
Childe looking like a mouse now 😭
so she just get flashbacks ?
her mother did a disservice transporting her to france 
always was
No u
Truly but that's okay 
We now have buff and lean
HELO MEEE
She gets her memories back in a severe fever thst looks like a seizure
It’s like getting 1,000 pieces of information at once in rapid succession
Basically
But add the eye and nose bleeding to the point where you worry your friends for what is in reality 6 seconds
Oooo now I gotta keep writing
I wanna publish on ao3 in time for Halloween
may your story get 10k hits
Awwwwww
I’m gonna enjoy Xilonen’s section too
like this. ?
Yeah
It’s actually horrific to see cuz you just see a person spasming on the ground bleeding out of every facial hole for 6 seconds
Then they pop up and go “I remember everything” likw
So far rhe characters for the fic are
Mavuika, Xilonen, Arle, Columbina, the hearth trio, Iansan, Chasca, klee, aino, Ineffa, flins, Clorinde and Navia
Only Navia and Clorinde are the only humans
Eventually I will have them end up living together
In a cottage that Clorivia gave Mavuika when they left for the city.
found three kittens yesterday just like them
And since Mavuika is a very good witch, she made a protective barrier around the cottage
Awesome
not a coven ?
deep in a forest, or a desolate chateau ?
or wait
a cottage that is a castle inmside
what are each of them here
Clorinde and Navia lived in a cottage.
The monsters in this story only find a bigger place to house them all when they meet a huge manor
Where Aino the ghost lives with her Frankenstein Ineffa. Ineffa accidently killed Aino as an error, but the two still love each other much
Mavuika is a witch.
Xilonen is a jaguar shapeshifter and the first to live with Mavuika, and
They’re very cute. They get together cuz I can’t help myself. I believe in fictional soulmates between two characters.
Iansan, Chasca, and Klee and vampires. Klees mom Alice is alive but thought she was executed by a group of vampire hunters
Arle is a spider person, who was cursed and similar to canon, if her emotions waver it gets worse. She starts off normal looking until a couple of freak outs and Crucabena’s exploitation of her left her with spider mandibles on her face and blackened hands all the way to her elbows and extra arms.
Columbina is a harpie. I don’t know what to do with her yet
Aino is a ghost and Ineffa is a Frankenstein of Aino’s creation
Flins is a groundskeeper who died after Aino did via consumption ( tuberculosis)
Lynette and Lyney are cat shapeshifters and Freminet is an otter shapeshifter
You can imagine how crowded the cottage got before they found Aino’s home
Isnt freminet constellation a penguin tho
So it would be a bit hard to figure oyt how to keep a penguin fine when they the environment is more suited to an otter
Dove themed person becomes a harpie
🥀
Also wtf aino and flins horror duo where is ineffa ?
Also iansan chasca being vampires is tuff
American vampires are cool
Some do go for warmer shores on the pacific iirc
Nvm i confused flins for ineffa

Also, aino flins tb deaths 
Why the dead flower Whats wrong 😭
Ineffa again is a Frankenstein who was pushed out of the home following Aino’s death.
Her parents wanted to kill her, but felt morally obligated to keep Ineffa alive? After all? Their daughter made Ineffa
Fun fact about aino in this au, is that aino has intense telepathy. To the point where her emotions are tied to the physical world. If she cries super loud, windows will heal and brains will hurt lol
Yes. Flins died from TB, he roams the manor
Tbf flins in game already is kinda a ghost
His body is fake
The real flins is the lantern
Me sitting writing this shit, knowing some people like these characters:

I like them too that’s why I do this
Specifically the fire inside the lantern
When I make characters suffer, that means I love them very much
So aino has a heavy presence
WOT!! I didn’t know that
Also sweet of the parents
Its a given
It was already built up that there's more of them in nod krai from the web event that showed all the factions but he's the only one we've (knowingly) met so far
Netochka in Kuuvahki Design Bureau quest also says it
Yeah
I hope we meet more and that he doesn't end up being the only one we interact with in-game
Yes, her parents buried her in the basement of the manor, she haunts the place, and unknowingly drove her parents to their demise due to heartbreak and disease from her supernatural presence
It doesn’t work on the monster gang cuz they aren’t human, so they’re free to live there. Mavuika, despite being the most human in appearance, instead a human.
She cannot burn, and masters a large amount of supernatural abilities through witchcraft
Aino still makes stuff tho
Her butlers are undead minions
She made
Maybe
Like the kuuvahki bots
Mavuika is a pyromancer ?
Exactly!!! I’m actually trying to figure out what equivalent I should make
Yeah
Gives her her pyro abilities like she does in canon
Without making her a supernatural likw the rest
Cuz she’s human like in the game
She put her first protection spell on Xilonen btw, bevause Xilonen was actively being hunted down by humans
Cuz you know
She shapeshifts into this
The girl is a fucking apex predator shapeshifter
But she made a friend named Nepecha who I made human
Yes I did
Jaguar in france ?
Nepecha is a little girl who she saved a while ago and taught Nepecha how to make jewelry and weld things.
Like in canon
However her parents thought she was trying to kill her
Why not
The location I didn’t specify in purpose 
Nepecha invited Xilonen for dinner but Nepecha’s nosey ass mother snooped and found out xilonen wasnt a human bevause she had ears and a tail
And freaked the fuck out and bevause her parents have the brain cells of a paranoid chinchilla, they quite literally drag her out into the street and threaten her life
I like where this story is going
Happy Halloween people
Ty
Ambr?
Its a wiki for pre load
Data
You can check character details of current version and next version
Always the parents smh
Nepecha grew attached to Xilonen because shes been her teacher
So she ran away from home to find her but accidently ran into a wild non shapeshifter jaguar
yo someone explain me how we passes into aliens now?
why "spaceship" name dropping is so nonchalantly taken as of well "yah each year snows around here"..
did xilonen do jaguar on jaguar fighting ?
wdym alien
well i mean one thing is "isekaied" descenders or wtv their name from another world or parallel universe wtv... -> another is actual spaceship crashing through the ehmm. the sky that is not the real sky?
wait actually what happened to that Scaramouche rant of the sky is not the sky? how that got tied off later in plot? i forgot
guys can anyone help me understand the the leaks rn
Thank you! 
Isekai just means the character went to a new place (hence why I lot of isekais have the character suddenly living in a fantasy world, but death isn't required to do so), and the traveler has explained before that they traveled the universe with their sibling- considering how far different planets and spectral bodies can be, I'd assume that a spaceship would have been the best way 
And descenders were already explained as being people unfamiliar to the world
They basically just call the traveler an alien any time it's brought up
Just, instead of alien they use descender
It didn't necessarily get tied off, but the whole plot point of the sky being fake came back when mavuika blasted a hole in the firmament and now has been a focal point with lauma and columbina in nod krai
You're free to discuss leaked story content without spoilers in #・genshin-spoilers if that helps
I have the channel muted so I'm not sure how busy it's been in there
yah but no.. i mean ok i get it.. but like u know the drill no? the tropes of phantasy vs Sci Fi?
fantasy? -> parallels worlds separate dimensions like hell haven etc...-> they are separated world -> separate universes -> cuz the concept of astronomy(not astrology) planets stars is never brought in
but this dude just said oh no we same palls same universe we just took a b igget boat and came from that other isle up north!!!
There's no reason it can't be both fantasy and sci-fi, no?
sorry a bit away coz durin, jahoda kits leaked
parallel universe isnt a thing yet, only simulated universes are
the fake sky is a shell placed over teyvat
yah..but liek thx now.. i mean already ppl have a hard time to make a coherent world for each of them separately imagine how cringe it gets when ppl try to mash them up
so that part was said durring natlan AQ with Mavuika or in her story quest?? i nly started and never finished the quests there
it was said during sumeru archon quest with dottore
Rip 😔

This is why I have a second account in hibernation so I can replay the entire story 
It'll be a lot easier to understand when it hasn't been 4 years since I last did the quests
its easier to watch lore videos ngl
yah they really need to make some recaps at each new x.0 patches
like tv shows "previously" in last sesons
They sometimes do during quests
But it's more like a "hey, you remember this thing we did?" From paimon
And they give you the choice to reply with yes or no 
imagine from the POV of new players also...
recap the story nt only for old players but NEW ones also
imagine if they also made an anime episode of recap story released before each anniversary
so much fish to catch in their net...
they really dont know how to capitalize on their own product and create atual hype

I feel like it'd be even less necessary for newer players since they only just recently did the content
It's us old folk who'd need it mostly, unless you have a memory of steel
no i mean new new player who never played, wh dont feel any relation to chars and feel "FOMO"
now think its not an episode but a movie...
and now each movie "ticket" is also tied to rewards in game so they dont feel are behind others older who already "farmed" more then them
i swear of all the ways you could monetize all this game world to drag in new players is insanely wasted
ok OST still is inanely good
Oh, I thought we were just talking about a recap of the story each x.0
Like how you said here
thats why they brought in the roblox game mode
well yes thats what i meant, to generate more hype with a new movie each year to tell the story in move format on what happened until that time in a nice epic way
yeah, and it's going to make the next update take 7 hours to install 
oh, movie
i thought you meant in-game since that's what people playing the game would normally see
Da Wei has to dust off and setup new servers manually


well... not like it takes much to enter someone else "home" tea pot that all funrish diferently
This is a bit more extensive than the teapot tho 
(Not that people havent built some ridiculous things in the teapot)
YES.
Girl gets blood in her teeth
HELP
LMAO
Whats wrong 😭?
Powerscaling in genshin is really kind of stupid ngl
Everything is so fragmented and you could, obviously, theorize who would or wouldn't win but in reality someone could say some absurd bullshit and have that be the winner
Like uba's theory on how a pyro slime could beat any archon
i wanna add on but reading spoilers prohibits me
Lol
Truueeeeee
That's why I stopped
Yeah lol
I don't engage in arle vs rerir crap
It's not necessarily a rule here, but was very frowned upon when the lore basement had actual activity with dozens of members 😭
Because, in reality, it did nothing but piss people off
And then fights would start
arle vs rerir when dori brings out hroaptatyr's magic wand from her purse and zaps them both:
Oh!
jjk ruined the new ggen
I don't think they started it
no it became worse with gojo vs sukuna
people began hallucinating new pages of the manga
all i did was trying to find an answer im curious to 
rerir at full power steamrolls teyvat no contest
ehhhh what is that?
Nah, powerscaling has been a thing for forever
I remember discourse in Dragonball Z era lol
i dont recall it being this toxic
ever
You were in good groups then
well i was never into anime then
or powerscaling
or on te internet
Ew
Ew indeed
No one
Xilonen:
She scratched her nail 🥀
Mavuika asked her girl to fix her bike for the 1000 time
The pages they be making up in the manga:
omg i love sandrone
She ran over a tatankasaurus while speeding 
Like this
Lmaooo
bruuh......
6hours just for act 1...
how
much
fucking
yapping
can
u
fill
in
your
game
Idk, I liked the yapping
It had a lot of lore stuff in it
And some cool cutscenes with new animations and stuff they have been adding recently
if it was 2h it would ahve been better...
you really dont need all that time and pauses inbetween even words ffs.. hoyo..
so let me see.. actually this recap...
We go with ineffa see the usual troupe gluton kid who is a wunderkid in robots tech
They speak about an artefact that can tell the "true past"... in hands of their local priestess religion cult wtv.. oracle of moon godes -> Louma
Louma brings us to her place.. recaps the 3 moons Tells how 2 fell of.. 1 is there... but not really
Shows how she heals a kid, then Fatui come in and tell us they look for artefact to find their harbringer
Our MC meets the goddess/harbinger all confused
Our MC meets their siblings go to artefact and then its stolen in the other big confusion
Dori quest appearance for lolz, Egyptian queen somehow is the local info broker, litte thief guides us, and some Tall Emo dude kills abys with a lantern.
The gang goes to take back the Artifact from the fatui
The omg betrayal of who cares wtv.. and then the sibling gets exposed as abyss ghost wtv its name wild hunt..
THE MC again shows how immune they are to corruptions and just absorbs another super power item that would have killed some other char
The end.
1 min to read it...
why it needed 6h of... "exposition ingame"???
someone... tell me what major thing i missed plz
Wow, that description was so detailed and riveting, I enjoyed reading that /s
It's almost like they said they wanted to focus more on storytelling and worldbuilding and lore, and then did that
You also missed some details, like the importance of fucking rerir being revitalized in a new human form and has the supposed capacity to destroy the world and is no longer "sane" in the same vein as he was while searching for his missing pieces
And the mystery behind his motives
And like... 80% of the quests with interesting details on stuff like with columbina and how she was "born" 
The struggle of a people keeping their faith for something that abandoned them and the one who was used to the point where she felt she needed to abandon them
Among plenty of other stuff
Person in lore chat upset that there's lore 
its not oo m uch reading, bruh i literaly said theere is nothgin to read..
how can u fail so much at reading?
In what universe is "how much fucking yapping can u fill in your game", "if it was 2h it would have been better", "why it needed 6h of exposition" not complaining about too much reading?
also who is rerir? i was speaking of the 6h long act 1 lol
you see yapping yapping yapping yapping when yapping yapping yapping yapping you yapping yapping yapping add yapping yapping yapping useless yapping yapping yapping yapping shit yapping yapping yapping in yapping yapping yapping middle yapping yapping yapping of yapping yapping the yapping yapping yapping message yapping yapping you yapping yapping yapping dilute it yapping yapping yapping yapping with yapping yapping useless yapping yapping yapping shit yapping yapping yapping yapping
Okay Fate
Dainsleif quest mention
lore question for genshin
||how did simulanka durin come to life as mini durin in teyvat||
im more than sure they answered it somewhere but ive logn forgotten
Andersdottir wrote a story and alice gave that story life
hence mini durin
but wasnt that still within the book we visited
i remember he left with scaramouche but i cant remember how ||he came to real teyvat||
he left with albedo
i see so ||he just kinda walked out of the book and joined albedo in paralogism?|| i guess not everything needs to be explained
nice pfp btw
you neednt put those in spoiler quotes btw the only content to be hidden is 6.1 story and event quests dropping this week
yep he joined albedo in paralogism after simulanka
he spent a while at sumeru then went to mondstadt
Digging Nefer's trailer 👀
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcFd1qbRg_I
Once a serpent sinks its fangs into its prey, it never lets go.
Or perhaps it lets them believe there is still a chance to fight back, only to pull its coils in even closer.
Chinese Voice-Over Video: https://youtu.be/AsbJMfj4kjA
Japanese Voice-Over Video: https://youtu.be/hDktaZmrzn4
Korean Voice-Over Video: https://youtu.be/1cQtsijW25g
Downlo...
This is kinda gay
Quintessential dubstep lesbian
when girls do it its never gay
also technically by the rules of intranetz not even selfsegs is gay
That’s not true
Lesbians do this
But you got a point on the last part
Selfsegs is technically not gay
I need this with Flins and Aether

what does the new generations even learn on internet nowadays?
?
Lolol
I was joking Nefer is dating herself
Depends on the POV
Hell no
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
MY FAVORITE DJ, BLACKSMITH, RAPPING, DANCING, SINGING, NAPPING, NEURODIVERGENT, LESBIAN JAGUAR WOMAN
✨🌟 𝒳𝒾𝓁𝑜𝓃𝑒𝓃✨🌟
All worth it tbh
Can’t want to see Durin and Arle
I gotta finish first part tho
I got bored
SUPER bored
Can't wait to see varka in game and alive
Dude's model in leaks has him towering over other tall male characters and I am here for it 
Bruh
Folks are essentially saying Varka looks too out of place
are you saying you wanted him to have a baby face??
@quick locust you will love this aq
Genshin smashed expectations twice in a row
So lemme get something straight with Arle!! Just yes or no.
||She has the power of not only the abyss in her but the power of the iridescent moon…plus whatever Columbina gives her||
||she has abyss power left over from crimson moon and iridescent moon marrow yes||
Nothing more nothing less
Oh and the pyro vision of course
…..you do realize this confirms that she’s EXTREMELY powerful right?
I was right
Yes
Just shy of columbina
This also means upscale for a certain other harbinger
Ew not Dottore
I didnt expect she was usinf ||abyss|| all along ngl
I’m sorry that was uncalled for
This makes that confrontation at the end of her story quest all the more astonishing
||She’s basically royalty||
Slight spoilers - ||the event quest is about him||
Yes
We never learn about the glitching tho
Or I haven’t so if you know SHUSG
No we do
Skirk doesnt get to play in teyvat because of alice restrictions
Excepting
Have you completed second quest ?
She can be even stronger
Buuuut
Mavuika has been fighting abyss herself plus has strength of all past pyro archons
So it can go either way but i personally lean towards mav
Comparison wise mav just has pyro throne powering her to the max
While arle does have ||a greater power now||
She can punch a guys skeleton out
||arle’s abyss wont cut it||
Mavuika could fr punch a dude’s skeleton out
Like what does this guy even do to place him above Bina and Arle
Now
He did kill Ursa the Drake
RIGHT!???!
With just one clone
The ||moon marrow is doing the heavy lifting||
He is also related to ||Nefer||
||Arle quite literally has both ABYSS POWER AND MOOD GODDESS POWERS FROM THE IRIDESCENT MOON..DOTTORE AINT SHIT||
No thats the thing
They are building him up
Arle to Dottore
To be scary
I hope his power is just his brain
||who knows what he does that tsaritsa still put him above both of them||
Tsaritsa is kinda obvious
Capitano should still be stronger than this ||arle||
No she should, she has pierro on her side
Though after this quest its kinda funny
Vinister King had Hroaptatyr (1.0 lore)
Tsar had Rautvangi / Rasputin
Tsaritsa has Pierro
Three rulers with their Khaenrian servants
||Imagine putting someone with the power of the abyss and the iridescent moon below a mad scientist who’s biggest strength is making clones of himself.||
Well he did make the design bureau
There is also his underground lab in game rn
You can hear people screaming there
We dk what makes him powerful
He made ||Thoth|| fearful of him while as a human
That is quite unsettling
||I also appreciate Columbina not saying anything about Arle to anyone else. So that they won’t turn her into an experiment. Knowing what Arle went through, that would break someone..||
We still don’t know when Arlebina exactly met, I still think they met when she was at least 20 as that would’ve given them time to do all that stuff with each other. From 20 to 27.
But I think Arle went to Dottore to get potions either a year after she settled in to being hearth leader or something
If I got approached by a man who doesn’t brush and prolly wees in a bucket..I’d be scared too
Ok..last shot at him
Yes pretty much
And spilling arle’s secrets is no use anyway
And is rude
Columbina wont be hurtful to her friends
Turns out the travelling doctor artefact set is about him
Wonder why he was so despised by everyone even at the akademiya
And in the field
He literally choked someone to death.
Are we fr?
Thats the thing we dk the full circumstance
She was attacked by tigers
He did choke her but it csn be out of mercy
She wasnt recovering
No seriously I’m thinking about that still. I think the children from before the kids she let go in her SQ
Expressed to leave YEARS ago.
I don’t think she’s ever killed a kid, that would go against her mo.
I think what happened was that when the first kid expresses to leave, she told him he was allowed to but then you know the trial and stuff but she would have to get prepared for it first, and THATS when she went to Dottore
Or she went to Dottore before the thought even came up from the children. Maybe 18 when she realized this or something?
We have literally NO record that she’s killed a kid, they would’ve definitely said as much. They don’t pull punches
Which one seems more likely to you?
You know how dumb npcs are in this game
Yeah I said it. They’re STUPID
Maybe back then but not in nod krai
She hasnt killed kids
But you know who else has
||rerir|| - alight spoilers
Right
Again they would’ve said she did kill the kids. They aren’t afraid to tell the truth.
Yeah
Akademiya immediately jumped to that conclusion
Even in the Event Quest
||thoth finds Dottore Perplexing||
Ty for lawyering for him
||“As much as I would love to call this a favor, I’m simply holding up my end of the bargain”||
ARLE. YOURE BEING MODEST
Columbina is so polite and effortlessly sassy i lovw it
Need fics of them in the same ship and roof and having tea parties
||Like I like how Arle says “I’m not doing this as a favor. I’m holding up my end of the deal” even though she quite literally couldve just said no or something. Girl you know it’s both.||
||Quit playing we know how you be. Like she legit be saying “like hey I’m not doing this as a favor or anything, even though I saved your life multiple times, said off the jump this was a personal matter, blew smoke up your hiney,”||
||LIKE ARLE!! YOU DID A FAVOR!! BY HOLDING YOUR END OF THE BARGAIN AND HELPING HER OUT||
Am I wrong!!? Am I in the wrong!?
Are favors done for free or can a favor be done by doing what she did?
Like if I asked for a favor from someone and they offered me a bag of chips and a took it, is that still a favor
Imma get me a cheese omlet
I know they kissed
I just
Can’t prove it
Watch me get attacked
Isn’t that every genshin character tbh
Somehow Dori always ends up giving us a 100% discount
Nefer also helped us for free
Like it’s every unit really
Keep us posted
|| skirk's coming back! 🥰 ||
Columbina is exploring her “friendship” with her four friends
Also
This reminds that
||Dain|| and Columbina having an open convo
Was unexpected
And them getting along after that too
We all know it’s not her
are you joking
no
🤔 could be
Progress a bit in the AQ and she mentions her by name as well
ok
But also I thought it was common knowledge who dori’s sponsor is
||skirk|| is also her supplier
Also Dori is just so much more likeable after this AQ
ok
You don’t need to spoiler tag that
why
Only the current patch stuff
yes it's still a spoiler
ok
Holy fuck new people
But yeah, general rule of thumbs is 2 weeks after the launch of the content, you're free to talk without spoilermarking
Anything from this current patch that didn't exist before (quest dialogue, new item descriptions, etc) should be spoilermarked
I’ve been around since forever
Um...there's onething i need to know
Is Sandrone an Oceanic...the one that follow the 4
And she mimics Mary Ann's appearance?
Is that right? Someone pls confirm🥺
Oh, you're only p3 and I didn't recognize you so I figured you were new
I think it's just a theory because there's nothing concrete and similarities in design can always happen, like with her hair style and guizhong's
But at least with Mary Ann I think there was a little more to it? I can't really remember
No, not spoiler but Sandrone just told us about her at the end of 6.1 Archon quest
Not a theory anymore...i just wanted to confirm if i read it right
Oh she did?
I haven't had the chance to even open genshin since the update
It finished at 1am my time and I had to work in the morning lol
I thought you were talking about previous theories ever since fontaine
Oh well, I have no idea then, sorry 
We still don’t know much bout Arle actually
I just realize
||they straight up genocided these people. I wonder if arle’s parents were executed…I’m wondering how the hell they made it out||
Spoiler^^^
So, what map have you guys played on the new mode?
None because I've been waiting the last 2 hours for it to finish updating
Prolly won’t for a while
A tad too occupied
I’m more interested in see in what other folks are gonna do with it than for me myself
FNAF Impact when
Wish they’d let you change the size of ur mannekin tho
||probably escaped like frithr, but early on. she was related to the royal bloodline afterall||
But I hear the day one release is pretty buggy
I support Varka x Venti propaganda bc if this one out of context screenshot
||tholindis gave the moon fragment to frithr and that's how it survived and got to arle much later down the line...
There's also this thing where paimon ask if crimson dynasty was similar to frostmoon scion people so it's highly likely they were also protecting their Royal bloodline too and arle turned out to be one so we have the confirmation kinda||
||she didn't say anything about herself only that she knew alain
As for the oceanid that you saw that was the director of Narzissenkreuz||
yeah
AFTER WAITING SO LONG IT GOT TO THE END, HIT 100% AND THEN CRASHED
IM GONNA KILL SOMEONE
I was at 70% at my last message 😭
I hope to god it doesn't make me wait another hour or two to download
what is hasan piker doing in genshin
Who
The thing ur watching
It's TheClick
oh
oh ig hes featured on there
It made me wait again, got to 30%, then crashed again 
Hasan is?
Maybe to make fun of him with the dog thing, but click doesn't really do collab stuff on his channel/do collabs anymore iirc
idk
After sad milk fell through
He generally just looks at subreddits and makes fun of posts on there, like r/entitledpeople and stuff
One of like 8 videos/creators I've watched while waiting for the game to fucking load and it keeps crashing on me instead 😭
It crashed again when it finally hit 100% 
I cleared the cache too hoping that'd make a difference
This is like the fourth time I've tried having the game load
Do a complete installation
Reinstallation*


I might need to
But I'll do it tomorrow, I don't feel like staying up another 2 hours trying to get this shit to work

The one besides the 4 was Mary Ann not sandrone
Both are different characters
Mary Ann got merged with oceanid lyris she's still there somewhere traveling
Also sandrone is robot like ineffa at least it's implied that way
Maybe alaine made her but it's not really confirmed for now
alain did make her
only one around in fontaine who can design meks as advanced as sandrone
Not confirmed btw at least for now anyway
Most likely yes
she also recalls him from before the showdown
There's two things here she knows him yes but ||a lot of narze stuff was told to her by arle||

||Wait arle told her ?||
Oh about the otdo
Yes
There
Yes actually let me spoiler it 
So she know Alwin but doesn't know about the 4...okay right
Anything before current patch can be talked without spoiler though
I think this one makes sense
@odd thicket also when does spoiler hunt goes away? 2 weeks?
Yeah
Actually there's a spoiler channel for that if you want current story discussion without using spoiler tag
This one
But do bear in mind i posted every major lore drop or cutscene snap there
In other word it's a minefield 

Why
Just kidding...i'm sorry
I delete my chats now...let me go to spoiler channel🫡
@odd thicket I didn't realise it at first but this symbol appears in the caribert quest seal too
where is this from ?
... 
