・lore-basement

[odd thicket]

simplifying complex things

they forgot elynas and possibly kaapatcir

we dk about venti yet btw

actually

yeah
possibly cousins

[spark portal]

An archon that is an uncle to another archon, still can't grasp that ngl

[odd thicket]

venti is directly borne from actions of a shade
Furina is 1 or 2 archons down the line

[spark portal]

One is talking about sacrificing human routines, the other is trying to find human routines/life

[odd thicket]

wdym

No

theres a video to explain this

[spark portal]

About what?

[odd thicket]

https://youtu.be/1NNwhodR8vk?feature=shared

natlan and paralogism

tldr; Stories are required to craft a soul and stars needed for crafting its constellation that governs its fate

new Durin has a new fate

There were two Guthreds; one was inside capitano for years
another was created within the night kingdom based off of natlanese stories about the real Guthred

[spark portal]

What I meant is that Capitano is willing to sacrifice what makes us humans in order to survive the natlan's coming catastrophe, Albedo is trying to make/understands what makes us humans in order to overcome the attack

[odd thicket]

oh like that

yes

[lost quail]

Durin playable???

sighs

And people want a skip button

Maybe Genshin doesnt need a skip button after all…

[lilac coral]

The people are their own skip button

[spark portal]

ARTIFACT LOADOUT

[lilac coral]

Yeee

One artifact loadout

Or two, whatever it was

[lilac coral]

Oh shit wait, I just read it

It's two per character

I thought it was just two you could create overall for everyone

Wicked

Wait, we finally don't have to leave the abyss and re-enter in order to obtain rewards

Idk why it took them so long but

Holy fuck they added a ping feature in the chat

There's also another means to get more storage freed up on mobile, but it also sounds like a hassle

Like yeah, you can delete quests and stuff, but when you wanna do them you gotta redownload every quest again?

[reef axle]

Nah, I've played a few games w/ a similar setup, it's pretty nice

[lilac coral]

I guess if the quest is long enough and not too segmented it won't be as annoying

Is it?

[reef axle]

The example quest they gave was 95mb. On a basic af mcds wifi, you're typically getting ~10mb/s

[lilac coral]

Oh okay

[reef axle]

So you'd basically just wait ~10-15 seconds before starting the quest

And in exchange you only have to download (in their example) ~60% of what you would normally (30gb vs 20gb) all at once

The current data saving stuff they have rn only deletes quest data after you finish the quest

[lilac coral]

Fair enough

And then once you're done you can use that feature to remove it again

Sounds good then

[reef axle]

The spiral abyss one honestly surprised me it took that long to get lol

[lilac coral]

Idk why but I always get nervous when they add stuff to re-download because it takes like 20 minutes for my wifi to download and unzip each patch in the loading screen

[lilac coral]

Yeah me too lol

It's always been annoying having to leave and come back just to get the rewards and then leave again

[reef axle]

It just felt weird having to lol

[lilac coral]

Yeah lol

[reef axle]

Like I was doing it wrong, even though I couldnt tell any other way to do it

[lilac coral]

Yeah, I just kept doing it because it was the only way I could think of

It eventually became habit and I stopped questioning it but kept wishing they would just let you get the rewards on the final screen

Or, at the very least, have a back button to go to the floors page

If you're on the team lineup

[lilac coral]

OOO

https://fxtwitter.com/GenshinImpact/status/1929749889090502769

Genshin Impact (@GenshinImpact)

Dear Traveler, it's announcement time! #GenshinImpact #GenshinSpecialProgram
︀︀
︀︀The special program for Genshin Impact's new version will premiere on the official Twitch and YouTube channels on 6/6/2025 at 08:00 AM (UTC-4)!
︀︀
︀︀This special program will feature juicy details about new game content and developments in Version 5.7. It will also "drop" some redemption codes and other goodies!
︀︀
︀︀Make sure to follow us, Traveler. We'll see you there!
︀︀Twitch: www.twitch.tv/genshinimpactofficial/schedule
︀︀YouTube: www.youtube.com/@GenshinImpact

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FxTwitter · Jun 3, 2025, 4:00 AM

THAT IMAGE LOOKS SICK

WELCOME TO NATLAN, DAIN

[reef axle]

Lumine tearing the sky is a sick af visual

Also a neat version name/chapter name

[lilac coral]

I love it

Also the bg being the abyss behind lumine, do you think it'll have anything to do with rending the sky open again like mavuika did to gosoythoth?

Or maybe it's just a really cool visual for the sake of being a cool visual idk

Because it almost looks painted rather than an actual sky tear

[white nimbus]

I think Natlan has dropped some huge lore so far. Here's hoping they continue to deliver in the Traveler AQ

[lilac coral]

Yeee

Also wondering if this is where either citlali's vision comes true or if we see an even bigger display of the loom of fate (since that's where we left off on the last dain quest)

[queen prawn]

The sky was instantly fixed anyway

[odd thicket]

Whats this storage optimisation i hear of

[queen prawn]

Only for mobile device

-You can download quest file if you want to do them

So if you are saving AQ for later,you don't need to download them

[odd thicket]

Why not bring this for PC too

[exotic kayak]

Guys

Hear me out

My prediction is maybe Nod-Krai will be located east of Lumidounce Harbor in Fontaine and northwest of Stormterror's Lair

[odd thicket]

No its north of natlan

[exotic kayak]

Bruh, my another failed prediction

[queen prawn]

What kind of dumbass wear big sun amulet on their hair

[lilac coral]

The new girl from wuwa lol

[white spade]

Dude there's a chronicled wish this time around

Mr. Jacob, here I come.

[lilac coral]

[white spade]

I got Qiqi

no im kidding

Damn I got him first try.

[reef axle]

You make that sound like a bad thing lol

[white spade]

I was hoping to fail and get Ayato

and then get Kazuha

[reef axle]

Arent you only able to pick one or the other?

[white spade]

I don't have him that built, but I do have him at 1

[white spade]

Here it is. If I had failed to acquire Mr. J, then I would have had him guaranteed my next run.

I just switched it to Ayato just now, so just imagine it's green boi on there

Anyway, I am considering going for Ayatos weapon now. 🤔

Mistsplitter might be nice to get if I fail to get Haran on the first try.

[odd thicket]

You actually want Ayato ?

[white spade]

I already have him with one constellation

I got lucky when I rolled with him so I want to get him to c2 at least

[odd thicket]

Fair enough
He becomes worthwhile at C2

[lilac coral]

Does he

I haven't used mine in like

Years

[white spade]

See. That's why I want to get him. I was lucky enough with c1, so let's do it.

[odd thicket]

Damn
But yeah
Hes super mid

Constellations give him a leg up and around C2-C4 he is comparable to C0 neuv

[white nimbus]

Mine only sees use in Imaginarium Theater. It's really noticeable how far he fell off. And he wasn't even meta to begin with

But the swish swoosh gameplay is fun

[white spade]

nice

im eating frozen brownies
anyone want some?

[odd thicket]

hes the only character i swiped 💳

for

i might do it in 5.8 for citlali when she reruns

[white nimbus]

Based

[stoic spade]

I use mine for hydro application in theater 😔

[white nimbus]

I also have Haran. It's nice that it's good for other characters too

[odd thicket]

its decent on skirk

at least

[stoic spade]

I still don't have it, but I have 4 mistsplitter

[white spade]

niceeeee

[odd thicket]

thats arguably bettr

I pray I can end 5.6 with 40 saved pulls
currently at 17 rn

hidden achievements, time gated achievements, gift sets and other annoying achievements are all that is left

IK i can get C0R1 of somebody next patch

but making it in time to get C0 citlali in 5.8A is going to be hell

even with mare jivari

[spark portal]

(Leak) ||https://fixupx.com/hxg_diluc/status/1930080987092004921?t=_TNBLFH0jzXy44WYfkIOAA&s=19||

🍁(Waiting for Phainon) (@hxg_diluc)

[Genshin]
︀︀Leaks from Uncle JUA2E52 true, including:
︀︀Ereve, Electro lady
︀︀New map: Mare Jivari
︀︀Bennett and Yelan Skin
︀︀Event focus on Bennett
︀︀
︀︀These are all true.

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FixupX · Jun 4, 2025, 1:55 AM

[spark portal]

||Let's play a game, are we going to deny the theory once again or is it becoming the truth?||

[odd thicket]

we have a spoiler channel at #・genshin-spoilers

[odd thicket]

which theoryy

[spark portal]

||Bennett is founded on Mare Jivari||

[spark portal]

||and that Bennett is actually a Natlanese whose bad luck comes from him staying outside Natlan||

[odd thicket]

that was already a given

mavuika's searing sun ring is similar to the ring of his burst circle

[odd thicket]

it comes from his constellation

wayobs cannot influence the stars

[spark portal]

Well, I mean people kept denying, I am curious now about what's gonna happen in 5.8 now

[odd thicket]

it was always a given

but up in the air yes

people didnt have much faith in genshin writing delivering outside of dialogue slop until fontaine and took until natlan to sink in

[stoic spade]

Idr was he an infant when he was found in mondstadt, as in he wouldn't have regained memories from the expension of Natlan's leylines? 🤔

[spark portal]

Now here's the fun part that I just thought about, I hope we have a closure on where Bennett's actual parents comes from

[odd thicket]

he was found in mare jivari during one of its errant weather cycles

[odd thicket]

he was a baby

[spark portal]

The last time we actually got to interact with bennett was 2-3 years ago, I think, someone made a chart about the last interaction we had with characters on an event

[odd thicket]

My guess is that Bennett was born during the cataclysm in mare jivari
the leyline fuckery killed his parents but sent him 485 years into the future

[spark portal]

Around 3.X

[spark portal]

WHRTF DOES TIME TRAVEL PLAY INTO THIS STORY?

WHRTF (where the fuck)

[odd thicket]

Have you forgotten Faruzan's story ?

she was stuck in a ruin and came out 100 years later when it was mere moments to her

and time flows differently in the abyss

[spark portal]

That wasn't a time travel thingy, more like a slowed time thingy

[stoic spade]

is that why his bday is in 29th february to reflect the mare cycles?

[odd thicket]

same thing could have happened with Bennett

[odd thicket]

maybe ig

[spark portal]

Genshin came out during leap year (2020)

[stoic spade]

it was all moons all along

[odd thicket]

but its a clear case of being out of place, in a weird time as his fate wills it

[spark portal]

OH, CRACK THEORY 🤭

[odd thicket]

no idea about the moons

Theres also conflicting leaks regarding the significance and explanation behind the peculiar nature of Mare Jivari pre cataclsym

[spark portal]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/s/Yo5FqsMpSh

3 years ago.

[odd thicket]

||https://postimg.cc/fSRZ52hC||

New leaks

[stoic spade]

||NATSUKI HANAE ABOUT GOD DAMN TIME||

ok those looked believable until ||Granny ping, dotto dying and the whale dying if they're real tho that sucks||

[spark portal]

||Here lies Dottore, may his grave be always spit on and stomped on, forever.||

[odd thicket]

People hate life saving white collar selfless workers smh

[lilac coral]

There's time gated achievements?

[odd thicket]

Yeah
Some achievements take months

[lilac coral]

Oh

Aside from commission achievements which they fixed, what achievements take months to complete?

[odd thicket]

Omni capture net
Fishing
Teapot flower farming
leyline farming
Uncommon Hilichurl
Teapot furniture

oih and
TCG

[lilac coral]

Oh

I forgot about all of those

I've done them all

[odd thicket]

oh damn

[lilac coral]

Except for the leyline farming because I've had little need for it since inazuma

[odd thicket]

how many achievements do you have ?

[lilac coral]

I have too much mora and exp books

Uhhh

Like 1300+ I think?

I can't remember but it's over a thousand

[odd thicket]

i am at 1310 rn

I want to catch up to somewhere close to KoGi at 1390

and i need all the primos i can get for citlali

[lilac coral]

Out of the ones you listed I just need the final leyline one and the tcg ones but I don't really play the tcg

Rip

Good luck to you

If you haven't gotten the newest batch of co-op boss ones yet I'll do them with you if you're na

I haven't gotten those ones yet out of laziness

[odd thicket]

it took me a while but i finished it somehow in 2023

[odd thicket]

i am on asia

also, coop achievements ??

[lilac coral]

Yeah

There's co-op achievements

I think it's called something of the outerworld (insert roman numeral here)

There's like 7 groups of them

You get an achievement for fighting practically every single boss in co-op

[odd thicket]

oh
thats like 20 achievements for e

for me

[lilac coral]

Ye

There's like 5-10 in each group

So probably close to about 30 or 40 free achievements

It includes overworld bosses like the flowers and maguu kenki, as well as weekly bosses like signora and apep

[odd thicket]

i need to farm these

asap

ig ill get someone on KQM to help me with

[lilac coral]

Have fun

They're probably the easiest achievements to get

[odd thicket]

which achievement series are these again ?

nbvm found it

[lilac coral]

[odd thicket]

finally done withj little one qu3ests

[odd thicket]

Are there no hidden quests in 5.4,5.3,5.2 ?

Or does every single one connect back to Little One ?

[lost quail]

I just thought of a headcanon for Arle

The only person to see her feel genuine fear was Clervie.
And it was while they were playing one of the games the adults made them play

She wasn’t crying. All Clervie saw was her pupils shrunk and her hands were growing black as tar

It wasn’t much, but it was the most afraid she ever saw her.

[lilac coral]

You could always look at the wiki

Or ambr

[odd thicket]

ik but its tedious

[upbeat brook]

Do we know what age hu tao could be around?

[odd thicket]

20+

no more than 23-25

[odd thicket]

I think some kids in the Hearth could have

when she was Father

Dottore, pierro and Tsaritsa are still enigmatic to her

[queen prawn]

there are 5 lantern rite so far, I think she would be around that age

[odd thicket]

Yeah

So if she were 19 in 1.0

1.x*

she had be like 24-25 now

[lilac coral]

We can just say "probably in her 20s" since there's no definitive word on her age

[mental flame]

https://tenor.com/view/hu-tao-dead-lantern-rite-hu-tao-death-hu-tao-dead-gif-13734271138364314116

in an alternate timeline, she would've been 24/25 forever

[reef axle]

Maybe someday I'll do her Story Quest...

[lilac coral]

i'm finally doing xilonen's quest for the tribe and man, i'm at the part where there's definitely something up with the mom that's not just being overprotective of her daughter 😭

the way the daughter reacted when she walked behind her and asked what they were so happy chatting about with the traveler

and then lying

does she get abused

[lilac coral]

dude this whole sequence and animation

the way the mom just yanked her daughter and slapped a hand over her mouth 😭

[bitter badger]

🤔

[reef axle]

New style of 2d character post? 🤔

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48WxY3t84Uk

[white nimbus]

Yeah it would be nice if they release it with drip marketing though for the rarity reveal too. But it's kinda moot since drip comes after beta now

[odd thicket]

Another like video came out right agter for dahlia

[reef axle]

yee

but who cares about dahlia?

[odd thicket]

Dahlia’s kit is not trash, its the warm stinky fluid that trickles down from one

[odd thicket]

True
He cannot out femme Venti so he mid

[lilac coral]

The stale dunks coffee and Starbucks frappes that people never finished before throwing away, backwash and all

[stoic spade]

What a good video, I too like to have a good zoom on characters crotch and boobs and their jiggle physics to make sure they are marketable enough

[queen prawn]

Seem like they're using character party standby animation for future short showcase

[odd thicket]

That meant he was good at once point, sweet and tasty 🤮

Besides i think it is a good description for most liyue and inazuma 4*

[odd thicket]

They know their fanbase. Dahlia had closeups for his assets too

[white nimbus]

Yeah they were both close-ups on the same parts of the body

[stoic spade]

Yeah that's a choice they made

[white nimbus]

Trailer is in Japanese as expected

Skirk plays the guitar

Phase 1 - Skirk & Shenhe with Dahlia
Phase 2 - Mavuika & Emilie

[white nimbus]

Nod-Krai teaser at the end of the 5.7 livestream

[odd timber]

omggggggg

[white nimbus]

Could this be Alice?

[queen prawn]

I am certain Columbina is a fae now

[odd thicket]

Yes

[white nimbus]

I mean we can only speculate for now

[queen prawn]

Alice is a book writer while Traveler is the one who experience everything and witness all

[spark portal]

Hmmm...

[odd timber]

it's interesting cuz we know the fae is a male so that person with colombina kinda hair should be a guy

[queen prawn]

? Eh no

Fae is just another race

Basically half elf

[lilac coral]

Wait so we actually came to teyvat in ||a spaceship||

That's new 😭

[queen prawn]

That ||spaceship|| gonna be Astral Express in the future

[lilac coral]

Also lumine saying that we will ||reunite in the past definitely adds fuel to the theory that the Kheanri'ah chapter will be us going back in time for it rather than experience Kheanri'ah in the present||

[odd thicket]

Time travel is weird

But abyss can possibly do that

Since light has travel time

What image we see of the universe is billions of years old

Already, when we receive it here on Earth or the satelites

[queen prawn]

||Khaenriah chapter is ??,so it is possible, but I think we will experience the event of Khaenriah as a spectator,this would make sense lore wise for Traveler to still able explore the current Teyvat, basically our experience will be like a "dream" rather than the reality but because Traveler are special we might be able to interact with that world.||

[odd thicket]

Traveller might be able to create alternate khaenriah by capturing that light

[reef axle]

Lowkey, the Alice (most likely) reveal is a lot more laid back/uneventful than I thought it would be 😂

[odd thicket]

She looks like a Hertha

[queen prawn]

Yeah ,I wasn't even surprised,Klee spoiled everything smh

[reef axle]

It's literally just grown up Klee in her Summer skin outfit

https://tenor.com/view/klee-genshin-genshin-klee-gif-2306665590609142159

[odd thicket]

Bina is a Fae

For sure

Dottore ‘s work is in vain with Project Stuzhta ?

[reef axle]

As in Dottore's work is pointless since Project Stuzha exists?

[odd thicket]

That IS his project

[reef axle]

Ah, then not that lol

[odd thicket]

He will likely succeed in Nod Krai

[reef axle]

"in vain" = pointless/useless

[odd thicket]

He has to

Capitano failed us all

Dottore is the next strongest harbinger to save Teyvat

[reef axle]

Think "in line with" would be closer to what you were going for ("in line with" = it has similar goals/outcomes)

[odd thicket]

So the narrator of the teaser is Nicole and SHE is playable

What did she do again ?

Before, in the story

[reef axle]

She shows up twice, drops some fate lore, then disappears without further explanation lol

Once at the end of Scara's interlude to say "oh hey, irminsul revision doesnt actually change the fate of anything", then towards tbe end of Fontaine's Archon Quest to go "Oh, fate is fate and will def happen, but fate is just the future from the gods perspective. It aint perfect"

[reef axle]

https://vxtwitter.com/3looooool1/status/1930991106931429860

3lol (@3looooool1)

OMG I LOVE YOU SO MUCH THANK YOU MAVUIKA'S VA FOR THIS AMAZING GIFT

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jun 6, 2025, 2:12 PM

[muted depot]

Hey everyone

Haven't been here in a while

[lilac coral]

This isn't meant as a jab but who are you

[reef axle]

This is meant as a jab but who are you

[lilac coral]

A nobody

[reef axle]

Dang, classic Kc recognition issue 😔

[lilac coral]

Am I supposed to know who I am?

[muted depot]

My last messages were in lnc like 3 years ago so I don't blame you at all but like low-key I'm back with a theory

I think I finally cracked what's going on

It's been in our face the whole time kinda

Genshin is a story about context.

[lilac coral]

Oh okay lol

Welcome back

[muted depot]

I really think I figured it out tho idk

I started writing it out and then wrote out kinda the prologue and realized I had been writing for an hour

😭

Bruh

Viruses

Rip to whoever just got their account stolen

Just disappeared bro

That's crazy

[reef axle]

yee

I have delete message perms here

and I'm eternally lurking

did report it to modmail tho to kick the guy/delete their messages in non-lore channels tho

[muted depot]

Are you interested in a complete origin theory of Teyvat

[reef axle]

Depends, is it summarizable in 2-3 sentences?

It's too warm here for anything more than that

[muted depot]

Probably just someone who fell for it and their account is now compromised, trying to get as many people to fall for it as they can before the owner discovers

[muted depot]

Not even close, because if I tell you the major claims in two to three sentences you will think it's insane

Ngl

Like I said, it's really a story about context

[reef axle]

Oh? Shall I share with you the truth of our lord and savior Princess Fischl?

[muted depot]

I don't know a lot about her even though I was around to play the event and get her skin, she's always been a little confusing to me, but I think she has something to do with the boar princess

Not exactly sure

[reef axle]

nah, completely unrelated lol

[muted depot]

I genuinely really would appreciate if someone would want to hear out my theory, because I'm desperate to run this past someone else who really studies the lore.

[reef axle]

TL;DR: It's mostly just me memeing about/making a big deal about some endgame/big world lore that was first revealed in Fischl's books/ramblings, and trying to make that into something bigger than "miHoYo was being cheeky and snuck endgame lore into a chuuni's chuunibyou rambles"

[muted depot]

Can you link it to me?

I want to see if it lines up with what I'm thinking

Because I've already checked myself against things like the travail trailer

And suddenly everything in it makes sense

[reef axle]

unfortunately, it's all in my head Only theory I've committed to writing is one about the butterflies in Enkanomiya being a bioweapon of Phanes/the PO

[muted depot]

And I go off the Chinese community fan translation, not the official one

[muted depot]

So are you saying it's the iridescent or the frost moon then?

[muted depot]

I'd love to hear your theory about her then sometime over voice if you wouldn't mind

I do have certain ideas of who the primordial one really is btw

He's gone by a lot of names by now

[reef axle]

Mostly just boils down to "There's so much sus links between the rest of her lore and what we've been told about Phanes/the Shades that this last volume of one of the two books inspiring her "character" is sus af"

There's been a lot of lore revealed in Fischl's stuff first (Ex: Irmin is named here, ~2 years before he was named as the king of Khaenriah, and it also predates Sumeru's revelation that Irmin's project was a bridge between worlds)

[muted depot]

Yes

[reef axle]

So seeing a ton of lines that seem like they could be connected to the PO in the final volume is sus

[muted depot]

That would make sense ngl

I think it fits ngl

[reef axle]

It'd be super cheeky of them to slip it in there lol

Cause your first instinct is to write it off as chuunibyou fantasy nonsense

[muted depot]

I mean the key to everything in my theory is lore that is from 1.0/2.0

Ngl

[reef axle]

wait, that reminds me

think I wrote a list of "Fischl sus" bits at one point here

If I can find it, I'll link that at least

[muted depot]

I wonder who fischl really is

[reef axle]

Found it: #・lore-basement message

[muted depot]

I didn't think about her

But like low-key I'll study this

[reef axle]

The raven motifs kinda make me think maybe Ronova related?

[muted depot]

OH

[reef axle]

Genshin's TCG lore explicitly states ravens are a symbol of death in Genshin

[muted depot]

OH MY GOD

IT ALL MAKES SENSE

YEAH THAT FITS PERFECTLY

[reef axle]

Another convert for the Fischl cult

All according to keikaku

[muted depot]

no like

man

You have no idea

Djskekdkckdkdkencndkeksjd

[reef axle]

[muted depot]

She's probably not exactly Ronova

But I know who she is

They... knew each other

[reef axle]

Will history say they were roommates?

[muted depot]

I dunno about that

I think their story together hasn't been revealed

Except partially through fischl's lore

But not... fully

[reef axle]

yeee

just a fun pet theory of mine

and an excuse to shill Fischl

[muted depot]

No it makes a lot of sense

[reef axle]

my other one (the butterflies one) was mostly for the funny title lol

[muted depot]

I see

[reef axle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Lore/comments/v0mh4a/theory_butterflies_killed_god_no_seriously/

[muted depot]

Are there ever like lore discussions

In VC here

[reef axle]

the VC is pretty much never used lol (except lore member pull streams)

[muted depot]

Because this theory I have is really long because it's essentially a timeline that provides the context you need to understand teyvat

Like the prologue took me an hour

[lilac coral]

THEY KEEP EMPLOYING UK VOICE ACTORS BUT KEEP DIRECTING THEM TO USE AN AMERICAN ACCENT

RELEASE THE BRITISH

Man, where's Celestia to brag about how dain is fighting like this

A new permanent game mode

Aww that little snippet from the singer of an upcoming animated short was really cute

And oh my god that last animation

I saw some people earlier talking about how Alice looks and I'll be honest, idk what they expected lol

She's klee's mother, I'd hope she at least somewhat resembles her daughter (or well, vice versa but you know what I mean)

Also the frostmoon scions look cool with their deer

And the fatui "stronghold" looks dope as HELL

The quick sketchy card post they did during the welkin moon event did not do it justice

[reef axle]

Personally was hoping for an Elysia expy

[lilac coral]

This thing looks absurd

Is elysia the pink haired one?

[reef axle]

Yee. I did a recolor of Elysia with Klee's colors ages ago lol

[lilac coral]

Ohh I forgot about that

Tbf, it's just a simple drawing and not her full detailed design, so who knows

[reef axle]

Yee, more was just hoping for a ponytail lol

Freakin Genshin and their obsessession with detailed/filled out backs

[lilac coral]

Ohh

Yeah, the obsession with long hair and funny details

• open back pieces

If she really is that covered in the chest area though, I'll be surprised

I was expecting them to show cleavage like Lisa lmao

Or og jean

But hey, I at least like the braids she has at the bottom of her hair

Those look cute, along with her outfit

[topaz anvil]

what if varka is aventurine expy 😔

[lilac coral]

I think golden would be more than fine with that

Another wife for the collection

Now we wait for him to get here and say his piece

[muted depot]

If anyone's interested in getting in VC and hearing me out please let me know because I really think so many things begin to make sense in a way they never have before

[onyx fossil]

What happened

I was summoned

[lilac coral]

Read

[spark portal]

So, anyone wants to address this now? ("Skirk SQ leak", this is from a long time ago)

[reef axle]

Thats a lotta text

[spark portal]

Tldr: ||We're on a temporary journey with Skirk.||

[queen prawn]

I checked it last night,it all make sense

[lilac coral]

Oh dear Christ

I was not expecting to open that and see 12 whole paragraphs

I'm not invested enough for that at the moment I'm sorry 😭

[spark portal]

Lemme know if you ever feel invested lol

[lilac coral]

Probably no time soon, since I'll be busy

[odd thicket]

I can send a cleaner collection

[odd thicket]

||https://imgur.com/a/EYF7Gyw||

here

[reef axle]

...isn't that literally the same wall of text, just split into 3 images?

[odd thicket]

Yes
But more legible

[reef axle]

the legibility wasn't the issue lol

[spark portal]

Legible to read he meant lol

[reef axle]

yeah, I understood what they said

[odd thicket]

I hope everyone in that Node Kraite Teaser is playab;le

[white nimbus]

Aside from Dottore, Varka & presumably Alice, all of them look like NPCs to me

[lilac coral]

Legible ≠ shortening it so it's less intimidating to read lol

Is what Jake is getting at

Because legibility wasn't the issue, it was the sheer amount we'd have to read in order to understand what you're talking about lol

[odd thicket]

We know the ||first playable character of Nod Krai in 6.0 is Lightkeeper tall male||

[odd thicket]

Oh
Oooh

[white nimbus]

NPCs can be tall too

[odd thicket]

True

[odd thicket]

is this an old scammer

[lilac coral]

Just nice that it finally was something other than a fucking nitro scam lol

But also probably one of the more believable ones that some people might fall for if it wasn't spammed in every fucking channel

[dense moss]

watch the whole ||traveler develops a new swordsmanship style|| mean absolutly nothing and have no impact on gameplay

[odd thicket]

It would

Traveller got a massive glow up with Tumaini

Its not old genshin anymore where they failed us constantly

[dense moss]

sorry but they will have to do a whole lot more to convince me of that

they already really disapointed me with skirk

i have known since a while she was gonna be cryo and i was already annoyed at that

but they really just went "Ye she is abyss, but she's just cryo"

they could have put some actual effort into her, but she's just NA based Ayaka

i still hold a lil bit of hope for the story with nod krai but genshin just keeps failing me in all other stuff

[odd thicket]

Ah fair enough

apparently skirk is IMITATING cryo and hiding her real element

or doesnt have one

so the abyss element is with

sigh

Playable Surtologi

[dense moss]

Abyss element isn't gonna happen

she has abyss powers disguised as cryo, this clearly shows they have no intention of giving us actual abyss element

Dain will just be reskined pyro

And i wouldn't even be mad about it, if they actually gave her some special reaction like Nilou has

but she's literally just NA Ayaka

and what pisses me off even more is that she's stuck with mono cryo or freeze so even if they do end up giving us the rime grass reaction, she can't even use it

i hope im wrong btw

if next patch we play dain and he does abyss im gonna be happy

but at the same time

hoyo will get a riot cause people will demand skirk be abyss too

[odd thicket]

The Nod Krai leaks suggest something unique for each reaction

Like Nimou

Nikou

Nilou

[odd thicket]

Yeah

[dense moss]

Unless they rework freeze altogether i dont see that helping with skirks case

and i only really see them adding the rime grass reaction

that depending on how they implement it cause help Phys Dendro and Some eletro

i dont think it will help cryo much unless it favours them real hard

if they do at least i hope the Phys shread is there, and it stacks with superconduct

so Eula can be semi back from the grave

the same way Ayaka was revived by Nescaffe

Also in case it's not obvious im gonna skip skirk

imma go for Shenhe for my Ayaka

[odd thicket]

It is happenint

Trust

Remember skirk lacks a true fourth slot

Shenhe, Mona, Yelan, Mualani, Citlali are all bandaids atm

[dense moss]

I trust nothing

[odd thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/luthen-rael-luthen-rael-despair-hehed-gif-18319001959790470452

[lilac coral]

I got esco just to get skirk, then buffing my wrio was an accidental surprise

Because I forgot about him and was like "wait..."

[odd thicket]

Damn people have a lot of characters they forgot about ?

[lilac coral]

It's not that I forgot about him, it's that I barely use cryo for anything

So I figured I'll crack out the cryo characters again now that I have escoffier lol

I tried melt with wrio but the timing was never right and it would go back to the pyro character doing the melts

And I went back to friendship farming new characters

[queen prawn]

The only way to allow another team option for her is to introduce different element support for Skirk and other cryo dps, making that support so good that Escoffier doesn't need full hydro/cryo for her 50% shred. (I mean ,cryo and dendro reaction decrease enemy resistance to cryo and dendro anyway)

[dense moss]

Got her for ayaka and rizzly but for him I still prefer melt

[dense moss]

Skirk also has passives that need full hydro cryo

And no it's not only the get +1 skill

There's another that works like esco that pretends it works woth just 3 but the number is so big

Her own attacks don't count

[lilac coral]

Yeah

Skirk is just hardlocked to full freeze teams unless you want to sacrifice her own buffs

Or if they include a character that's so nutty that it negates both the 50% shred from escoffier and skirk's damage buffs

[dense moss]

Which would be pretty hard to do without wrecking the balance of everyone else

Nescaffe was already an amazing buff for cryo

[odd thicket]

how
rev melt should always be harder to clear tho

Forward melt instantly clears cryo
reverse melt still leaves behind pyro

[odd thicket]

it is her bread and butter btw

its what makes her stronger than rev melt

[dense moss]

Ye kc what team do you use

My wrio uses melt burn

[dense moss]

Ik

[odd thicket]

wrio with xiangling can never be a forward melt driver

[odd thicket]

mb

[dense moss]

I do rizzly xilo benny/Thomas nahida/baizhu

[lilac coral]

I can't remember what team I used, maybe it was with dehya 😭

[odd thicket]

Oh

Dehya bad for this

[lilac coral]

Ah

I can't remember what I was thinking when I made the team

[dense moss]

If you do burn melt she works fine

[odd thicket]

Nah

You can run into issues

[dense moss]

Yah I did it

[odd thicket]

You would want Kirara here

[dense moss]

But you need to use nahida

[odd thicket]

Nahida is annoying in burn melt

[odd thicket]

No

Nahida’s TKP does not always trigger

[dense moss]

Ik she doesn't apply off burn ticks but doesn't it work when dehya attack hits?

[odd thicket]

Doesnt recognise burn trigger as a valid reaction

[odd thicket]

Burning expires almost immediately after first or second rev melt

Without adequete dendro to remain alive

And wrio’s rev melt tears through both pyro aura and burning aura

[odd thicket]

Too slow

2.5s per hit

Its Emilie or bust for consistency

[lilac coral]

No yao yao?

[dense moss]

i dont think yao is fast enough

[dense moss]

ive never had consistency issues with baizhu

[lilac coral]

Her bunny throws a radish every like second or two

She's the most consistent off field dendro applicator I have

[lilac coral]

Outside of nahida ofc, but usually when she's involved, smaller enemies die too quick for her E to do too much/I have to keep swapping her in in order to continue applying dendro

^ the problem usually happening during events or lower abyss levels

[spark portal]

@dense moss Blue Flame will really make you smile : )

[dense moss]

i already know it's just gonna be fucking pyro abyss skin

[spark portal]

Also, people are really that bored that they be asking for a new element?

I think fixing the other element problems would be more sufficient

[stoic spade]

I'm used to have my fantasy games with 7 elements, people can ask but it'll be up to the devs in the end

[queen prawn]

I don't,I still stick to the hydro pyro meta

[spark portal]

I think playing the lesser meta playstyles would make it a bit difficult and interesting

[queen prawn]

As long as it isn't frustrating

I stick to hydro pyro meta because majority of team have those element

[odd thicket]

they are not meant to be fixed

hydro and pyro are always meant to be the best

[dense moss]

Incorrect clearly cryo is the best they just holding out for bronya

[spark portal]

@dense moss did you feel disappointed when Alice looks like the bigger Klee?

[odd thicket]

Cryo has shite reactions outside of rev melt

[queen prawn]

Cryo and pyro are equal but then again,very few team comp use them, and their personal dmg isn't that great since there is no good pyro applicator, usually just the pyro doing the reaction

[odd thicket]

nah cryo isnt equal

its far behind the top 2

[dense moss]

We all knew that's how she'd look

[mental flame]

me when children share traits with their parents

[odd thicket]

Klee might not be a regularly born child

I think alice made her with magic

[lilac coral]

Like I said before, idk why she and klee wouldn't look alike if they're meant to be related lol

[dense moss]

Alice gets revealed and she looks exactly like her daughter
Everyone:

even klee comments that with the summer costume she looks exactly like her mom

this does not discredit the alchemically made child theories

my theory will still be varka is the dad tho

[mental flame]

not a fan of the artificial child theory anyway

first biological playable mom in jenshin real

this is the hill I'll be on

[dense moss]

I mean ye

but then again you need to consider the elephant in the room

jenshit is a gacha

and they will want to sell the waifus

and it doens't work as well if your waifu is married

it still works FGO has plenty that are married and they still went for it

[odd thicket]

please no

[dense moss]

Varka has the biggest game in all teyvat

he caught himself a hexenzircle witch and had a kid which he then left with Jean

[odd thicket]

he is teh aventurine expy in this game though

he should be a depressed daddy homosexual

putting himself through work to feel good

[dense moss]

What if

He is gay but cause of politics he was forced to marry Alice

[odd thicket]

nah would suck

varka is not someone to bow down to politics like that

from his descriptions

besides

aristocracy is toothless in mond now

[dense moss]

But he is someone that would probably sacrifice himself in that way if it means now the witches have to protect mond

The witches aint there to help with the nobles

[odd thicket]

no like

why would Alice marry him ?

she is way above teyvat level

[dense moss]

Have you seen Adventurine

Alice could have just though he was hot

She's free spirited enough that she'd go "He's hot, sure ill marry him"

but hey

im already disapointed enough that he's just Adventurine and not Pompey

So whatever happens now im not gonna be too mad about

Only way they can redeem him for me is if he somehow uses Dual Claymores

Like how Alhaitham and Chiori have dual swords, if they make him go madlad dual claymore style im sold

[odd thicket]

no like

alice is too above the station of lowly teyvat men

Girl can do better

😭

[dense moss]

Let her have fun

[odd thicket]

she can just make her own perfect man too

😭♥️

[dense moss]

Not every girl with the ability to isekai needs a lovecraftian god for a partner

[dense moss]

that's no fun

[odd thicket]

Nah

Who said partner ?

Partner implies some equal standing for both

[lilac coral]

?

I mean, wouldn't you want to be equal standing if you had a partner lol

[odd thicket]

Yes

Im saying Varka is never on Alice’s level

[odd thicket]

I think Arle may have concerning political beliefs and influencing her wards with hatred

[lilac coral]

I'm confused by what you mean but alright

I was talking about within the relationship

Are you talking about external? Like position or power?

[dense moss]

He's basically going with, Alice is basically an entity outside of Teyvat's rules, so Varka a normal mortal man from teyvat is so below her she would never consider him for any relationship

which i completly disagree with

[lilac coral]

Same

But I should also say I'm not in the boat of Alice x varka being a thing lol

Just that love isn't always dependent on whether each party is on the same "level" of power or not

I mean, she's very friendly and talks to everyone in mondstadt, and almost all of them are human so like

Who says she couldn't have spoken to one, thought he was very intriguing, and fallen in some sort of stupor over him?

[odd thicket]

no like stadards

[lilac coral]

And how do you know her standards for falling in love with someone?

[odd thicket]

like

idk

like shes an alien

traveller is a literal star

[lilac coral]

And

[odd thicket]

she could have found someone of a higher pedigree

outside teyvat

like girlie has the whole universe to pick from

[dense moss]

nothing ever said she's an alien

we just know she can go outside of teyvat

[lilac coral]

There's a reason why there's real life stories of royalty finding love and solace in someone of a "lower pedigree" that lots of writers use as a basis for fantasy stories

[dense moss]

cause she brought barbara an idol magazine

she can and might be native to teyvat

she's just very powerful

[lilac coral]

And what if she picked a human?

[odd thicket]

that is why shes an alien

shes aware of our rome

[dense moss]

that doens't mean she's an alien

[odd thicket]

and she gave mavuika ducati pictures

[dense moss]

just that she can leave

[lilac coral]

^

Actually

This brings up something

[odd thicket]

eh, isnt she a descend3er

[lilac coral]

You remember how in the trailer they talked about capturing the real sky

Breaking through the firmament

[odd thicket]

when its a man its super forced

[lilac coral]

Do you think the hexenzirkel will help with it

[odd thicket]

unless hes really really hot

[dense moss]

no

[odd thicket]

they probably are

[lilac coral]

Or maybe she really likes his personality

[dense moss]

this was literally my point

[odd thicket]

that is dottore's project

[dense moss]

Alice looked at adventurine Varka and went, Hot man i want him

[odd thicket]

but the only male in teyvat to attract someone from across the stars is

nibelung

[dense moss]

but again

[odd thicket]

fair enough

[dense moss]

nothing absolutly nothing says Alice isn't a teyvat native

just that she can leave at will

[odd thicket]

we can stave away this description until Nod Krai comes out

[lilac coral]

Ye

[odd thicket]

though controlling firmament \

is interesitng

[dense moss]

i mean i doubt it will be the case cause we all know

Gacha can't have their female cast be in any relationship

[odd thicket]

maybe controlling the firmament = controlling fate and challenging celestia directly ?

and when they react

[dense moss]

but i still ship Jean and Diluc and Varka and Alice

[odd thicket]

in full force

Tsaritsa busts out Tsar-Gnosis and nukes them all ?

[odd thicket]

not even in wlw ? or mlm ?

[dense moss]

in what

[dense moss]

what does that mean

[odd thicket]

same gender relationships

[dense moss]

works for Lesbians in Honkai Third but if they ever introduced that in genshin the comunity would go crazy

[odd thicket]

we have raiden

[dense moss]

FGO works cause they use actual historical characters that as most people know got married

[dense moss]

we dont have Kiana

[odd thicket]

who is that ? idk much of honkai lore

[dense moss]

Sustainer's expy kinda

The main character of Honkai

[odd thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/kiana-kiana-kaslana-honkai-impact-3rd-hi3-rui-gif-9566235003679786542

[dense moss]

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-kiana-everlasting-flames-himek-gif-22612642

[odd thicket]

her ?

then what makes the PO ?

kevin kaslana expy ?

[dense moss]

Sustainer is an expy of the Herrsher of the Void, which is Kiana when her Sirin self gets awakened

[odd thicket]

ik that in HSR the flame reaver is a phainon done really dirty

[dense moss]

it's complicated

but Herrsher of the Void is technically a different personality

[odd thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/sentry-thunderbolts-sentry-thunderbolts-eyes-lewis-pullman-gif-15132088263420443497

[dense moss]

https://tenor.com/view/god-kiana-gif-20585236

My theory is that, Paimon is conected to the sustainer

and when she grows she will look exactly like Kiana

Kevin is a funny thing because

he was originally a joke genderbent Kiana from Honkai Gakuen

then they made him a primary antagonist in Honkai 3rd

And then they grabed the whole thing he did on Honkai third and remade it as amphoreus

and that is one of the reasons i hate amphoreus

because amphoreus is just incredibly lazy and it just grabs a huge arc of Honkai 3rd and remakes it

btw when is the new genshin patch?

2 weeks?

[odd thicket]

next wednesday

[odd thicket]

isnt that good tho

rehasing what they did but better this time

[dense moss]

no it's just lazy

[odd thicket]

hm

[dense moss]

plus shaoji is a terrible writer because he keeps doing giant text dumps to say something that could have been 1 small phrase

and keeps throwing in random ass words and meanings that just overcomplicate stuff for the sake of overcomplicating it

which is why amphoreus is bloated af

amphoreus just annoyes me a lot

[dense moss]

oh though it was later, that's good means i can try to get shenhe soon

i have enough to get to pity, and if i lose 50/50 i should get enough during the patch to get her anyway

not going for her weapon just gonna give her fav

[odd thicket]

verbiosity too much

[odd thicket]

did he work for genshint oo

[odd thicket]

yeah fav is the best

[dense moss]

no he worked for Honkai 3rd

he was the one that killed Himeko

at least for most of Honkai 3rd he was tolerable, but by the end he started to develop his verbosity much as you say

then they moved him to HSR when HI3rd part 2 started

[odd thicket]

why was that a huge event ?

[dense moss]

cause himeko died

[odd thicket]

why tho

so what if she died

[dense moss]

Himeko was the MC's teacher and basically mother figure in a way

and everyone in the comunity loved her

so it was a big hit when she died

especially because it was the MC when corrupted that killed her

all the while Himeko was trying to save her

[odd thicket]

ohhhh

so its like
us killing paimon ?

[dense moss]

hmm kinda ish

hmm lemme think of a better comparison

funily enough it would be like also killing himeko in HSR

tho that one is slightly less attached to the trailblazer

[muted depot]

@reef axle ur fischl theory actually led me to a revelation

[lilac coral]

A good one or a bad one

[muted depot]

can i submit something to the lore team here

[reef axle]

not sure what you expect us to do with it, but sure lol

[lilac coral]

Wait how would you even go about that

Are you going to dm a random lore team member?

Is it for review to share or to be posted somewhere?

[muted depot]

can it get published

if it's verified

[reef axle]

Look at the date of the last post there

[muted depot]

oh

where do people submit lore these days

i really think i got it

your fischl theory was just what i needed

[reef axle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Lore

[muted depot]

is that it

idk

im hesitant to just post it on eddit

[spark portal]

https://fixupx.com/Randomp3rs09/status/1931765247016087704?t=2sQCGR5fOh66zlOh9Fp1aw&s=19

✨idk✨ (@Randomp3rs09)

“B-but there were HINTS”
︀︀Meanwhile the devs themselves:

Quoting l4ke (@slaygonomiya)
︀
mind you theres no reason for then to add a new element and theyve never indicated otherwise

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FixupX · Jun 8, 2025, 5:28 PM

[spark portal]

Do we need everything to be said right in front of our face in game?

[odd thicket]

Well

Abyss and Omni are still coming

Not as different elements

But as secondary elements

[queen prawn]

The nature of abyss is to mimic the element/stole it, and light is just, multiple color= multiple element

[odd thicket]

That nature of abyss is not wholly true imk

Imo

We barely see the abyssal power the greats such as Nibelung and the Sinners wield

[mental flame]

expecting a new element or at least hoping for it also comes from the benefit of the doubt alongside wanting new things

[muted depot]

You know what's funny

They did

We just didn't notice

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_SLinG2t8m-AiIvgUOF_8fKFtV2NBp3tLXixnEeyZ5Y/edit?usp=sharing

Warning: entire game spoilers

Original creation myth

[queen prawn]

You can't just make theory and say that "they did and we didn't notice" in a conversation about abyss element in the game not being promised by dev

[spark portal]

I think xe focuses on the word everything and understand it as EVERYTHING in genshin so far

[muted depot]

Because abyss was dendro in a way

A future version (of dendro)

The fruit of poisonous forbidden knowledge

Divine knowledge (da'ath)

Divine Evolution, that by which humanity can become god through merging consciousness

But do they surpass god? Or become monsters?

[muted depot]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_SLinG2t8m-AiIvgUOF_8fKFtV2NBp3tLXixnEeyZ5Y/edit?usp=sharing

v2: add more context, evidence, and edited for clarity, as well as clarified predicted figures in footnotes in direct citations of game text, as well as indents to separate game text more clearly

as well as a works cited and further reading section

minor tweaks to identity as well

[muted depot]

v3: kabbalistic analysis and conclusions is now out

[lilac coral]

Kabbalistic?

Kablooey?

[muted depot]

eh

its probably not for the best

maybe ill try again eventually

[spark portal]

If Dottore was redeemed in the way that his evil experiments had ended and he doesn't need to continue that, would you guys accept it?

[reef axle]

imo he's just not really set up in a way to be "redeemed".
He has so much pain he's caused and zero remorse for any of it that short of a character assassination of what makes him "him", I don't see it happening

Dude's not doing research for some noble cause, he causes suffering because he finds observing how people respond to it to be fascinating.

[odd thicket]

I want him to remain evil

And also be playable

[lilac coral]

i appreciate how, for this current event, they have another ending screen that essentially says "you sure did participate!" when others get stuff like "most coins collected", "blew up the most opponents" etc

[white spade]

He reminds me of what happened to Bodacious

[white spade]

Aww. Why do all my cool new friends in Natlan die?

[spark portal]

Skirk's limbs are not real limbs.

[stoic spade]

Yea, she regenerates them with abyssal energy. Which means she technically lost all of her initial limbs at some points and is conscious she can't just cut off Childe's because he can't regenerate, so she's keeping enough self-awareness to know he's an ordinary human but still train him to become stronger

She taught him foul legacy i'm sure she could teach him how to regenerate too if it was a skill, unless it's something specific to her alien race or she'd prefer Childe not having to actually fuse with abyssal energy. Both sound plosible

[odd thicket]

Surtologi was a cruel master

[odd thicket]

I think it can be thought

Its abyss after all

Its only rule is has no rules

[stoic spade]

yeah it's just this line

Makes it sound like Childe living in Teyvat is a necessity, and him having abyssal limb would be really weird

"if I train the kid to regrow limbs the people upthere are gonna burn him at the stake"

[odd thicket]

Or PO’s laws prohibit it

Or Surtologi wants Childe to be whole

Childe is his ambitious project

[stoic spade]

Does Surtalogi even acknowledge childe is the question tho

because Skirk was the one to find him and train him

[queen prawn]

I think she doesn't teach him because people around him would distance from him.

[odd thicket]

He does

His constellation is literally the whale

Surtologi’s fate is still tied to Teyvat despite gaining super abyss powers

[queen prawn]

Surtalogi cut off her limb everytime she lose

[stoic spade]

I think that could be so many different things

[odd thicket]

That too
Or because of his vision

Hydro Vision resists abyssal growth

[stoic spade]

Like I need surtalogi to talk to childe to believe it, because as of now I'm more believing that childe is linked to the whale than Surtalogi himself

[odd thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/i-just-wanted-a-sister-guardians-of-the-galaxy-you-are-the-one-gif-12107512

[odd thicket]

Surtologi should know.

[stoic spade]

Just like how the principles should have shot Furina down 😔

[odd thicket]

Whale is his project and he sent Skirk to search for “Ajax”

[stoic spade]

I mean I'm not against it, I just need a bit more to chew on that idea

[odd thicket]

Principles may actually be on the side of the traveller

The Heavenly principles narrates Traveller’s introductions

[spark portal]

I think with this chat, there's a lot more to Childe's lore than what people recognize/appreciate it

[queen prawn]

Well,they initially thought the Twin were a threat

[odd thicket]

Yes

[odd thicket]

Thats sustainer

Not K. K.

[queen prawn]

What

[odd thicket]

Issue is his lore is so intertwined with the Fatui plot and the old Ajax

That needs to be fleshed out

[odd thicket]

Sustainer of the Heavenly Principles is not the same HP we are talking of right ?

[queen prawn]

Still,the sustainer can just talk to the HP

[odd thicket]

Idk

The HP could have ulterior motives

Wait

Lemme shar

E

[stoic spade]

uh

oh wait both are connected ok makes sense

[spark portal]

Wait... so Hoyo really actually views Aether as the overworld protagonist all this time through this introduction, but why keep denying it? At that point, they should've scrapped the picking mc option

[queen prawn]

Why not deny it? You know how crazy the community is

[odd thicket]

Aether is easier to market

But in HSR its the fem trailblazer ?

[queen prawn]

Also because story like this usually is the male protagonist looking for whatever

[odd thicket]

Nah

Most people misgender aether

[queen prawn]

That has nothing to do with my point though,that is their problem

[spark portal]

Because of what?

[odd thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/what-leaving-grimace-cringe-weird-gif-22413346

This is the only safe gif i could find

The rest were him kissing xiao and haitham

[odd thicket]

I agree mow

[odd thicket]

Brother searching for Sister is a very tried and tested trope

That works

Sister searching for brother feels wrong somehow

[odd thicket]

He is very femme

Starters:
the braid
Then the ear ring
And the outfit itself

[queen prawn]

Because a brother should be strong and always protect his sister

[odd thicket]

Kinda

Though i hate how the male is automatically is assumed to be “strong”

[spark portal]

I think any older sibling has to be strong, although we have no idea who is older

[odd thicket]

In fanworks lumine is more popular

And
Abyss sibling lumine is just as cool

Abyss Sibling Aether is a cornball

[odd thicket]

Likely lumine

[stoic spade]

when's Nyx gonna show up and get her kids

[odd thicket]

I hope this Dain AQ shows Genesis Pearl
Lore

[odd thicket]

The traveller siblings parent ?

[queen prawn]

In the Chinese dub version (also known as the original dub), Aether will refer to Lumine as 妹妹 (Mèimei), meaning : younger sister, and Lumine will refer to Aether as 哥哥 (Gēgē), meaning older/elder brother.

Jiejie is older sister

[stoic spade]

mythos-wise yes, but it was a joke as I doubt in game they are actually mythos Aether

[queen prawn]

Didi is younger brother

[odd thicket]

Kong and Ying , no ?

[odd thicket]

Unfortunate pronounciation

[odd thicket]

Nyx allegedly exists in the game

Night Mother, in the six pygmies lore

[stoic spade]

yeah but isn't she super evil in that story?

[odd thicket]

Yes

But we dont get a conclusion to it

The datamined books point towards dain being the sixth pygmy

[stoic spade]

😔

we'll probably get more in nod krai or snez I'm guessing, poor nyx catching strays

[odd thicket]

Ree D. Miller with only one mention so far even got some attention for Nod Krai

[lilac coral]

That is their names, but when the characters refer to each other as "brother"/"sister", the terms they use in Chinese refer to "older brother" and "younger sister"

Like "I'm looking for my older brother" essentially

[spark portal]

So, the typical older brother trying to find his little sister trope then

[odd thicket]

that is sad

[lilac coral]

Yeah

[stoic spade]

Tbf 80% of the time of the game i completely forget of the sibling anyway

[lilac coral]

Same

It's not even a solid point anymore, and they've given up on asking the archon of each region about them

[odd thicket]

Tbf

Traveller does know about the sibling now

And is following their wish

To experience all of teyvat

Like they did 500 years ago

[lilac coral]

Yeah, it's just funny that they continued to have us directly ask the archons up until furina/neuvilette

Since we learned about our sibling's whereabouts and what they wanted us to do back in liyue

[reef axle]

Ngl, still pissed off about how they handled the caribert finale chapter thingy

Our first bit of traveler/sibling chatacter arc progression in ages and it's immediately in-universe retconned to never have happened

The entire chapter could basically be summarized as telling us

"Hey, the thing that was completed off-screen was completed off-screen. Also we took the Ruin Guard eye thing."

Such a waste of a chapter 😔

[odd thicket]

when you put it that way... yikes

[lilac coral]

"And you're not allowed to remember any of this, so toodle-loo!"

[reef axle]

Honestly, would have been a fantastic chapter if they let us remember and our character had to live with that info

I really cant think of any narrative reason why tf they decided to erase it

[lilac coral]

I agree

It feels so... Underhanded? And pointless?

[spark portal]

B- but... people from X said that this quest is peak and Natlan's AQ is very flop compared to this interlude (note that I had never seen someone like this lol)

[lilac coral]

Backhanded is the word I was looking for, my bad

Not underhanded

[spark portal]

SAG is bullying Erika and Joe.

Erika for her little "outbreak" on tiktok comments

Joe for starting the informative video on the strike with Genshin wasn't struck.

[lilac coral]

joe is the wrio va right

[spark portal]

Yeah

[lilac coral]

wasn't he just trying to help people understand

and not really attacking anyone or trying to put anyone down or even demonizing sag

[spark portal]

Well, the video from Mujin around the 36 minute mark says otherwise

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6NVgwS2IbLA

[lilac coral]

who tf is mujin

[spark portal]

They said that the strike is now for all games, not just for the og goals

[lilac coral]

but i thought the strike ended

like

yesterday

[spark portal]

He's an informative youtuber who recently made videos on SAG

[lilac coral]

ah

[spark portal]

https://fxtwitter.com/sipsipstefen/status/1932299569985138928?s=46

SipSipStefen (@SipSipStefen)

Just so everyone knows, this means nothing for Genshin Impact or Honkai: Star Rail, sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Quoting SAG-AFTRA NEWS (@sagaftranews)
︀
We have reached a tentative agreement with the video game bargaining group, which includes some of the largest video game companies in the world, and we are hopeful that our video game strike will be suspended in the coming days. #SagAftraStrong ow.ly/wZzx50W6Lwv

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