#Modpack: Steampunk Suggestion: Nerf the tempad ...

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gilded oxideBOT
graceful halo
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Tagging @hoary zealot as you inspired me to write this; I'm curious if you have thoughts. Also @urban sapphire as you have pretty thorough steampunk pack knowledge.

urban sapphire
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But I love the idea of having to use other dimensions stuff to make a interdimensional traveling device

graceful halo
hoary zealot
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and a display board is cheap and easy to find

hoary zealot
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as it stands rn imo the best thing to do is either replace it with my idea with the waystones or follow your idea and make it so you have to get end game items from all dimension

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have it be like the all the mobs star

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a reward for fully exploring

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in this case

graceful halo
hoary zealot
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i would also like to note

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by design or not, you can open a portal infront of any mob and push them in. that teleports them to the location

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it makes this useless to make

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cuz you can teleport shit across dimensions with tempad im 95% sure

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i learnt this when i accidentally teleported a villager with me

graceful halo
hoary zealot
graceful halo
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Ooo true

hoary zealot
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before youd have to lure them all with an emerald block. or take the children via carry and fly away on a plane

urban sapphire
deep veldt
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if you have a specific recipe in mind ill be happy to implement it

graceful halo
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I guess the questions would be: what dimensions to get stuff from, and what stuff? For blue skies I suggested the alchemy table & summoner's table (I think that's what they're called). I'm not familiar with Twilight Forest or Aether, so I'm not sure what to get from there. Maybe also have something from like Mars? From the nether could be ancient debris?

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If we want it to be post end dimension maybe add chorus fruit or something from eldritch end?

urban sapphire
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never touched ad astra so I don't know abt that part

hoary zealot
# deep veldt if you have a specific recipe in mind ill be happy to implement it

empty / Seg Display / Segmented Display / Seg Display / empty
Treated Brass Ingot / Volt Meter / Advanced Computer / Energy Meter / Treated Brass Ingot
Treated Brass Ingot / Accumulator / Non-Euclidian Cube / Fuse Block / Treated Brass Ingot
Treated Brass Ingot / Copper Circuit / Thermal Cell / Copper Circuit / Treated Brass Ingot
Treated Brass Ingot / Fissle Core / Charged Ender Pearl / Telecore / Treated Brass Ingot
empty / T Brass Ingot / T Brass Ingot / T Brass Ingot / empty

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NEC might be too rare idk, i put it there since you have to expore quite a bit to get the spell stones but you can just replace it with heart of the cosmos if you think its 2 much. imo instant tele whenever, wherever, forever should cost you a great sacrifice

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i put these materials since you have to mess around with alot of the create techs to get them aswell as do some alex cave spelunking( this makes people acctually have to play and expore the modpack)

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i was thinking of having seven curses ring items as apart of the recipe but i dont think everyone can play like that so i canned that idea. i also thought to have all the rare items from different alex caves and other dimensions but i realized that youd have to basically 100% the modpack leaving nothing left to do. So all in all i think that this is a very fair but hard recipe for the tempad in this modpack as it requires you to greatly explore the overworld, nether and end, fight bosses and advance with create while still leaving you with content to explore.

urban sapphire
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And you're forgetting abt the fact that infinite tempad can still be found in end cities

hoary zealot
urban sapphire
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A different one

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An infinite no cd one

hoary zealot
urban sapphire
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Idr

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It's circular

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Just do slot: tempad (whatever the slot is named)

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And it should also show

urban sapphire
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Old image but

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That item

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It have a new sprite/icon pretty sure

hoary zealot
urban sapphire
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It's really rare

hoary zealot
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imo that should be disabled regardless

urban sapphire
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I think i looted like 100 end cities all in all and haven't found one

urban sapphire
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Well 3.5, one I barely loot anything

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But I did go into some end cities

hoary zealot
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ehh then it shouldnt matter no?

urban sapphire
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Idk, I don't have an opinion on the creative tempad

hoary zealot
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for the normal tempad recipe nec could just be replaced with heart of the cosmos

urban sapphire
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I'm just stating what I know

urban sapphire
hoary zealot
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i was thinking of it

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as ive said, these materials match the mechanical/ magical mix feel of the modpack and require you to explore and create alot aswell as fight certain bosses

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(forces you to play the modpack)

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the eye is very easy to make compared to the others

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eye of ender, blaze powder, gold nugget and phantom membrane

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anyways the eye teleports anything but yourself

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unlike the charged ender pearl

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i went tru almost all the modpack items to find suitable material, not just by rarity but also by the processes you have to go tru to accuire them. like create new age and factories must grow

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normal create aswell. you need a supercharge blaze burner for some components

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assembly lines

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spouts, etc

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basically everything

urban sapphire
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should've add a bottle or 3 of hyper exp

hoary zealot
urban sapphire
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really?

hoary zealot
urban sapphire
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none of my teammates on multiple of my playthrough even use cei

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it's mostly me setting all of that up

hoary zealot
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cuz its copper based

urban sapphire
hoary zealot
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in the questbook

urban sapphire
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ye I don't think there was that for me

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wellll

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I don't think I check the questbook on create much actually

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so I can't really remember lol

hoary zealot
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cuz when you get to fmg you have to start melting down metal and shit

deep veldt
hoary zealot
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prob could replace nec with heart of the cosmos as discussed before

graceful halo
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okay im looking over your recipe now and i have a couple thoughts:

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  • I'd add more items to get more mod breadth. I like the inclusions so far, but I'll draft up something that includes more other stuff (and less C:TFMG stuff, don't need so many items from that mod imo)
hoary zealot
hoary zealot
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this is some of the items i thought to use for it originally

urban sapphire
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The 2 table is only loot from the first 2 bosses, not even close to endgame of that mod

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And instead of burning ash it should be ignitium or something

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But honestly recipe should try to find a theme instead of just putting everything that’s endgame of dimensions

hoary zealot
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yeah thats what i was kinda talking about prior

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cuz while i want it to require rare things i also want the recipe to make sense while still leaving you with stuff to do

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the tempad is a tech steampunk design so i had thought to include tech stuff with some magic items

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that make sense

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the idea i was going for was tech meshing with magic

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which is apart of the theme of steampunk(modpack)

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and the reason as ive said above was to force the player to interact with different aspects of the mod (bosses of mass destruction, different branches of create, enimatic legacy, etc)

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maybe some of the other treated brass ingots can be replaced with other ingots idk. tb ingots made sense to me since you have to do more scorched guns stuff

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now im not saying players wont do all these things but it will give them a push to do it more

graceful halo
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Tho I'd say if you are doing that there should be a forge:light_bulbs component in the recipe so it requires tungsten

hoary zealot
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lore: the light bulbs project the portal

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what you think?

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light bulb / Seg Display / Segmented Display / Seg Display / light bulb
Treated Brass Ingot / Volt Meter / Advanced Computer / Energy Meter / Treated Brass Ingot
Treated Brass Ingot / Accumulator / NEC or just heart of the cosmos / Fuse Block / Treated Brass Ingot
Treated Brass Ingot / Copper Circuit / Thermal Cell / Copper Circuit / Treated Brass Ingot
Treated Brass Ingot / Fissle Core / Charged Ender Pearl / Telecore / Treated Brass Ingot
empty / T Brass Ingot / T Brass Ingot / T Brass Ingot / empty

graceful halo
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ehehehe sure why not

urban sapphire
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not enough diversity

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I was thinking of having even more magic stuff as well

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there's a few that'd fit into the spatial manipulation that I can't remember off the top of my head

graceful halo
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@hoary zealot I think due to the existence of the He Who Remains' tempad available in end city loot, it shouldn't require going to the end to make the tempad

hoary zealot
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could replace some tbrass with insidium or however you spelt it

hoary zealot
hoary zealot
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why not just take it out of the loot tables?

graceful halo
hoary zealot
graceful halo
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Ohhh ignitium

hoary zealot
# graceful halo Ohhh ignitium

you know theres alot of treated brass in my recipe, if we cound find other rare ingots in the otther dimension we can have those too, like whats the rare material in blueskies?

graceful halo
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And the tempad recipe could just be one of those, or it could be both

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Personally, I think I prefer the idea where it just draws from many mods, and isn't necessarily "lategame."

hoary zealot
graceful halo
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Because I think that scavenger-hunt approach is sufficient for the abilities it gives

hoary zealot
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so you get time to use the other shit the modpack givess you

graceful halo
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it requires you to do a bunch of exploring the old fashioned way, before you get teleportation

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yeah

hoary zealot
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vehicals, train, transort systems/lines

graceful halo
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but I think having it be lategame is kinda unnecessary at that point

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if it already requires a set of items from diverse locations, why have it be post-dragon and/or post-wither as well?

hoary zealot
graceful halo
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well but my point is kinda that the diverse set of items requires you to do the exploration anyway

hoary zealot
graceful halo
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but yeah ultimately i think the reason we didn't get a reworked recipe is that there isn't consensus

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Awq was mostly seeming to align with what I had said

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Idk I had also wanted to put more time and thought into it but got sidetracked and forgot

hoary zealot
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lets say you reach the end right, id say some of the other bosses are ment for post dragon

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so when ou get to the end you gain the "fast travel" to help you fully explore the rest of the mods

graceful halo
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hmmmm

hoary zealot
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and it doesnt require you to even finish the cave, you just have to go tru the process of finding it and half exploring

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this leaves you with stuff to still do and gives you a reason to revisit these areas to use the tempad function

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create tfmg stuff just makes you basicully fully explore the create aspect(main aspect ) of the modpack

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id assume by the time youve made all the machines, youd have built factories for them aswell

urban sapphire
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I don’t think it’s worth even considering that in here

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I played 4 playthrough of the pack, 3 of which I got to the end and looted end cities

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I looted so much of the end cities and yet never found a single one

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Only reason I even know about it is because someone mentioning that