medieval-mc-forge

[lilac helm]

Yeah Knowledge of the Ages is going to require a higher Eterna value

And Arcana helps too

[tranquil solstice]

Looking at older messages, it seems to require you to have at least 40 Eterna.

[lilac helm]

Infused Hellshelves will allow you to get tier 1 of the enchantment

But tbf I always just get a tier 3 book from a villager or get lucky and find it randomly in a tower

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah, I usually also find it on a random loot item before having set up a proper xp farm.

[last sedge]

do you think making void runes is a good idea?

i see that they give 15 arcana 6 eterna and 6 quanta

[tranquil solstice]

They're decent, I think I use 8 of 'em.

[frigid quest]

is there a mod like alexs movs for neoforge 1.21.1?

[rare jolt]

I only play madieval MC (no vanilla, almost no other modpacks for 2 years), made a server of almost every version, and so i highly recommend the MMC5, its more balanced, easy to manage and customize, also immersive, i do miss the specializations from MMC4, but they were a bit too op, also the magic is like the focus on the 5, and so mele enjoyers didnt like it, but it was easy to fix. Also i do like the focus of the 5 in cooking, farming, fishing...

[rich harness]

What are the most notable differences between the Medieval MC (Fabric, Forge, and Neoforge modpacks)?

[ruby terrace]

Anyone know how to fix these structures glitching into each other ? I added sparse structures but it changed the seed completely after. Or should I just deal with the wackiness ? 🤔

MMC5 1.21.1 neoforge. The map and biomes just changed completely after sparse structures was added 🤔

[shell tartan]

don't know much about fabric but what I heard that it's a bit light in performance compared to forge/neo.

as for forge version it has updated content and leveling system where world get progressively harder (highly recommend)

neo version felt like a bit of old version of MMC with the freedom of exploring world since there's really no exact progression system unlike forge version

[coarse echo]

hi, im having a bit of trouble. I'm trying to make a crative world, but everytime the loading gets to 100% its says "connection lost" and then a button to 'back to server list' pops up, and sends me to the servers multiplayer screen. how do i fix this?

[spiral fog]

Okay, will do

[sturdy rose]

Can someone tell me what mod makes it so that when you don't use an item in your hand for a period of time, it hides?

[toxic plinth]

It's not so much that they are "glitching" into each other, but they are spawned into one another due to Vanilla being weird.
Also, adding and removing mods does make the seed have to generate differently, especially since Sparse Structures tells the game "keep these structures distant from one another".

[ruby terrace]

Yeah i might just vibe with it tbh. Sparse structures is interesting because it actually changed the biomes too

I just thought I did something wrong with mods but im sure other people have similar generation 😬

[brittle lintel]

What are the best curio? Or necklaces or rings

For mmc4 1.20.1

Like yeah we can just get the totems but they dont have any other effect besides not die hahahah

[tranquil solstice]

MMC5 has the mod Structurify to increase the space between structures, there shouldn't be a need for Sparse Structures.

[ruby terrace]

Do I need to adjust anything on Structurify config before generating a world ? I appreciate that I didnt see that mod on modpack index

[tranquil solstice]

I don't know honestly, it's up to you whether you want to try it on your current world or just stick with Sparse Structures now. I haven't changed such settings before so I don't know what would happen :D

[tranquil solstice]

!logs

[waxen brook]

To better assist with fixing your issue, we will need some logs:

• Curseforge -> Right click the modpack instance -> „Open Folder”.
• ATLauncher -> Click „Open Folder” on the modpack instance.
• MultiMC -> Select your instance and click „Instance Folder” on the right.
• PrismLauncher -> Select your instance and click „Folder” on the right.
• For servers -> Open the folder containing your server files.

To find the „latest.log” file, navigate to the 'logs' folder.
To find the „hs_err_pid.log” file, simply look for the file name after opening the instance folder.
To find a crash report, navigate to the „crash-reports” folder and find the most recent file after your crash occurred.

Once located, please upload the requested file here. If it fails, upload to https://mclo.gs/ and share the link here.

[shell tartan]

check out blessed amulet

rings can be whatever honestly

[brittle lintel]

Noted! Thanks

[lean fulcrum]

Hi guys... I am having some issues with mmc5... I run a lan server for me and a couple friends and my log is full of spam when I open containers/backpacks.
[17Dec2025 10:28:36.330] [Server thread/WARN] [io.redspace.ironsspellbooks.IronsSpellbooks/]: Bad school config entry: hazennstuff:shadow. Reverting to default (irons_spellbooks:ender).

also, (possibly unrelated) I am getting lag every few minutes, where everything just stops for 5-10 seconds. I love this pack, but I have no clue why its doing this (the lag isn't present in other modpacks I have run)

[tranquil solstice]

You can safely ignore those messages. It likely comes from a version-change in a recent update that removed the shadow-school, so it replaces it with ender. Once all items related to it have been updated the messages will stop.

As for the freezes, how much RAM do your PC, the server and your client have?

[lean fulcrum]

my pc has 32gb, the server has 24gb (both set to 8gb in MC)

[tranquil solstice]

Your PC needs some RAM to run background processes, giving the server 24 GB and the client 8 GB doesn't sound like a good idea. Try giving the server 8GB and leave the client as is. How many players are playing on the server?

[lean fulcrum]

Oh, the server is set to 8gb in the start script

no more than 4 people on the server at a time, but the lag happens even with just me.

[tranquil solstice]

Next time it freezes please send a screenshot of your F3 debug screen as well as the RAM and CPU usage in your task manager.

[lean fulcrum]

ok, I was just getting ready to boot it up (our power went out last night >.<) I will try to get you a clean server log too.

[tranquil solstice]

Thankies.

[lean fulcrum]

I apreciate the help, it's a fun modpack

[formal atlas]

I need some help,I keep seeing these infinite 0 hp healing numbers on my friends,it's really frustrating

One more thing,mana rings don't give any mana,mmc5 neoforge

[brittle lintel]

Whats the best Light weapon build (with gems and what stats to increase in reforging table) in MMC4 1.20.1?

I got a heavy weapon with reforged 12% current HP dmg and +6% current HP dmg from a gem. With 100% crit chance and 400%+ crit dmg… so basically every mob is oneshot with this weapon

And i dont want that it takes out the joy of fighting. Thats why i want a light weapon with not that current HP dmg. Maybe the one gem that gives only 4% current HP is fine but i dont want a heavy one shot weapon

Any tipps for a lighty weapon that still does dmg but not oneshoots?

[mild nebula]

I don't know if this is still applicable for your version.

But I had a lot of fun with a rapier in Hazen n Stuff and Iron's Spells and Spellbooks on MC5 1.21.1 and I stacked at least three atk speed gems and either a gem that increased base dmg or armor pen. Though that may also take the "joy out of fighting" but just in a different way.

[brittle lintel]

Is atk speed really that important? Ive read a lot about that but idk man hahahaha

[mild nebula]

It's great for DPS against bosses. I used to always do slow heavy hitting but holding left click and just mowing everything down as you walk is so much more fun to me 😂

[frail sparrow]

hi guys, how i can add my mod in this modpack, if i get crush when i try to start game with my mod?

[cerulean magnet]

Depends on which mod you're trying to add

[frail sparrow]

ripples of the past on 1.21.1 version

[cerulean magnet]

Never heard of it - if it's crashing - make a post in #1061339968691257466 then, with the full crash report (from the popup)

[frail sparrow]

okay thanks<3

[tranquil solstice]

On the interwebs I can only see a 1.16.5 version of that mod.

[mild nebula]

Anyone recommend a storage system for MC5 1.21.1? I would guess nether chests/chests connected by pipe to a terminal.

[nocturne juniper]

Is there anything in MMC5 that would speed up the growth rate of sugarcane?

[balmy bough]

What texture/resource pack strains lower end hardware on mmc4?

[shell tartan]

barebones

altho if you are really struggling then I really suggest lowering particles and render

[rigid rover]

Bugs Found:
1.
Build a Stone Lamp (quark mod)
place it on a solid wall
no matter how thick it is you can see trough it until a hollow room shows up
Its basicly a X-ray machine

2.
Normal dog pets are not sync anymore with their armor and they change color when you pick them up and place them somewhere

[prime charm]

Heyo, i get crashes all the time in MMC5 and it seems to be the curios mod, anyone know this issue?
[18Dec2025 17:01:32.522] [Render thread/ERROR][net.neoforged.bus.EventBus/EVENTBUS]: Exception caught during firing event: Cannot invoke "top.theillusivec4.curios.api.type.inventory.ICurioStacksHandler.getStacks()" because the return value of "java.util.Map.get(Object)" is null

[tranquil solstice]

Do you have the Holy Locket relic equipped by any chance?

[prime charm]

no, it happens fast even after creating new worlds. i just equi the random junk i find in the start. like normal rings and necklaces

[tranquil solstice]

Interesting, alright. Please update the mod Medieval to version 2.1.3 (if you need help with downloading or finding the correct folder, let us know).

[prime charm]

okay, i´ll see if it helps

[prime charm]

it works so far, thanks

[nocturne juniper]

This is more of a minecolonies question than MMC, but if I put a building one block inside of another of the same building (so same block in the coordinate for both buildings) will it cause issues, or will both builders check it off as built?

MMC5

[tranquil solstice]

If it's the same blocks in the same coords (and not blocks where the other building has minecraft:air) it should work fine. I'd probably still choose the safe route and build them one after the other and not simultaneously, that way both houses are definitely useable afterwards (in worst case one builder "replaces" the blocks of the previous builder with the same blocks).

[nocturne juniper]

Gotcha

So upgrade them one level at a time too then

The grachtenpand residences from medieval oak style is what I'm lookin at

Oh shit actually they don't use the same blocks on both sides, nevermind

[tranquil solstice]

:S

[rare jolt]

whats curios?

[tranquil solstice]

The curio slots. Like these: #medieval-mc-forge message

[simple maple]

1. 1.20.1
2. Curseforge
3. Darkinventory
4. v38
5. I was playing normally until now it just crashed
6. Medieval MC 4 - v38 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:
7. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | hs_err_pid3772.log | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | win_event1766082417708.txt | modlist.txt

# There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to continue.
...
Memory: 4k page, system-wide physical 16341M (536M free)
TotalPageFile size 20437M (AvailPageFile size 6M)
...
Current memory arguments: Xms: 256m, Xmx: 10000m

Found 2 log analysis results:
OutOfMemoryError in: latest.log
Current memory arguments: Xms: 256m, Xmx: 10000m, systemRAM: 16g

InsufficientMemory in: hs_err_pid3772.log

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

Added mods:
darkinventory-forge-1.20.1-1.0.6.jar

can i some how fix it?

[alpine valve]

ppl who play this pack

im new to it

what mods can i add/remove safely to improve me fps/gameplay experience

[tranquil solstice]

It looks like your PC ran out of memory. You can lower the allocated RAM to 8192 instead of 10000 (it should still run fine, I am using that amount myself). If you have any other programs running in the background, like browser, Spotify, Discord etc, close them if possible.

[tranquil solstice]

MMC4 or MMC5?

[simple maple]

where can i change it?

[tranquil solstice]

In the CurseForge launcher, click on the cog wheel at the bottom left, choose "Minecraft" on the left side under "Game Specific", and scroll down a bit until you see the slider for "Allocated Memory".

[simple maple]

okay should i turn off the Recommended by Author?

[tranquil solstice]

In that case, yes.

[simple maple]

okay lemme try

[slate timber]

Okay i m going crazy

why. Do every lunapixel modpack has this problem when if i get kicked from a server i get softlocked???

it's really annoying since it takes me 10-15 min to launch the modpack

is it just some option that i don't know? i m on the latest version of medieval mc

neoforge

[alpine valve]

5

[simple maple]

so i played for like 2 mins and it crashed again

[tranquil solstice]

Errrrm. Look in your task manager, how much RAM does your PC use without running the game?

[tranquil solstice]

I'm not very familiar with that version. Hopefully someone who plays that modpack can tell you more.

[simple maple]

13...

[tranquil solstice]

gigs??

[simple maple]

yup

but im watching twitch in background and using discord

i dont know if it changes anything

wait lemme check everything again

[tranquil solstice]

In the "processes" tab you can see how much RAM each program uses.

[simple maple]

6gb

after truning off minecraft

[tranquil solstice]

Okay that sounds more reasonable. Keep in mind that the allocated 8GB are used for Minecraft itself, the Java environment can use additional RAM so that you might end up with 9 GB used while playing (I've had mine use up to 10GB with 8 allocated after playing for prolonged periods of time). So make sure to run as few other programs on your PC as possible to avoid a lack of memory when playing.

[simple maple]

okay thanks for info i will try

[tranquil solstice]

Also, next time you're ingame press F3 and look at the top right corner to make sure it is indeed using 8192 MB and not 10000 still for some reason.

(The actual number shown might be a bit lower, but it should be closer to 8 GB than to 10 GB).

[formal atlas]

Mmc 5 ,why dont mana rings work?

actually not even mana necklaces

[nocturne juniper]

Found an exploit in MMC5 xD

[lilac helm]

https://tenor.com/view/vernias-vern-nation-gif-13110018023359186183

[nocturne juniper]

oh

Hold on let me convert it to mp4 so you can just click play in here

This means you can make an auto feather farm identical to an auto wool farm lmao

[tranquil solstice]

Finally a reason to put Eternal Stella on shears.

[nocturne juniper]

xD

[lilac helm]

Aight let me just deploy my Deployers and get a fully automatic feather farm set up

[nocturne juniper]

Oh and from just before that video I found out that they still lay eggs even while bein tortured

So it's feather and egg farm

[late plover]

Im getting this error when i try to host mmc5, does any one know why this is happening? Ive tried running if manually and also with docker and getting the same errors

[tranquil solstice]

46 seconds seems kinda long to locate a village. When you delete the \world folder and launch the server again, does it do the same thing?

[late plover]

yeah, I wiped everything from the vps and uploaded the server pack again and it show the same error

[tranquil solstice]

Hmm, you could make a world in singleplayer, then replace the level.dat file in the \world folder on the server and delete the \region folder inside the \world folder on the server. It should know the spawn location then already.

[late plover]

Okay it magically found a village now and started generating the world, the only difference is that i started it from a screen not the main terminal

[tranquil solstice]

If it works, it works 🤷‍♂️ I'm glad it works though.

[late plover]

Okay nvm it doest work it stops after generating the world

now it doesnt even generate the village xd

[tranquil solstice]

It says it created a crash report. Please drop it in here.

[outer hollow]

Uploaded crash-2025-12-18_22.34.19-server.txt from @late plover to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/MSSZGcN

[tranquil solstice]

I fail to see what's causing it, so unless you'd like to wait for someone more knowledgeable I'd try the pre-generated level.dat file.

[brittle lintel]

broo...something got my crazy dragon steel weapon... idk if it was a pixie or a sons of sin creature

why would anybody put smth like that in a modpack

[lilac helm]

wait until bro learns about Mimicubes

[brittle lintel]

i know them

and hate them

but dang man my weapon is GONEEE

[lilac helm]

oh you were that person...

[brittle lintel]

yeah hahahaha

i now turned off pixies stealing

but the damn sons of sins creature they still can steal

[mortal haven]

does anyone know where could i get help with getting Medieval Origins on forge my game just crashes every time i try to run it

[lilac helm]

#muons-projects

[lilac helm]

I mean
Pixies are one thing because they're very limited in spawn range but yeah the Son of Sins mob is just brutal

[brittle lintel]

cant even get them out with configs...

bro can it be that if i kill one of them with a knowlege of the ages sword that the stolen weapon from me gets tunred into XP?

bc i have a knowledge of the ages weapon always in my inventory bc when i want xp from mob farm

in i think it might of auto swapped and just killed that mob with that sword

and maybe it turned into XP...

[lilac helm]

Like even RLCraft you (used to, I think they've since patched it) could add a curse to your weapon to prevent Sticky mobs from stealing it (at the cost of losing it if you die)

[lilac helm]

... that's painful.

And the worst part is that I would 100% have done the same

[brittle lintel]

yeah never keeping that XP sword in my inv again lol...

i guess i need to farm gems for the gemdust again...

whats the best mob for gems?

like no trasure goblin bc i hate trying to farm him

and idk if it works good in mmc4

like atm9 was oke

[lilac helm]

Well Treasure Goblin is number 1, if you have enough luck he'll crash your game in gems
Otherwise any mob will be equally good for gems

...

DARNIT the leveling system

[brittle lintel]

i thoght silverfish maybe

[lilac helm]

Yeah silverfish would do
Make sure you farm them in the End though

[brittle lintel]

juppp

[lilac helm]

Actually speaking of Son of Sins
Why have I not looked into that mod for potential boss candidates

[brittle lintel]

just no item stealing i BEG

[lilac helm]

We take only the best of the best here

That mob has too many weaknesses to be considered

-# He might be a lower tier candidate

[brittle lintel]

you know what better armor shred or armor pierce?

[nocturne juniper]

depends

If low armour, shred, if high armour, pierce

[brittle lintel]

so for bosses armor pierece is better

[nocturne juniper]

Shred reduces amount of armour, pierce ignores amount of armour

[brittle lintel]

and prot shred or pierce is not impportant in single player yeah

[lilac helm]

Other way around
Shred is better for higher armor, pierce is good for lower armor

[nocturne juniper]

Unless a mob has prot on their armour lol

[nocturne juniper]

How so?

[brittle lintel]

if 100% pierce does it mean the boss has no armor?

[lilac helm]

In most cases yes

[nocturne juniper]

If you shred 5 armour off something that has 20 armour, you're still left with 15

If you pierce 25% armour, you deal with 15 as well

[lilac helm]

Shred is percentage armor reduction and comes as percentage
Pierce is flat armor reduction and comes as flat value

[nocturne juniper]

Oh did I just get the defs flipped, mb

[lilac helm]

Yeah

No worries

[brittle lintel]

so armor shred is the way to go

nice

thanks

[nocturne juniper]

Yeah

Pretty sure you can get both together though

[brittle lintel]

ah dang it light weapon can only have armor pierce...

[lilac helm]

Yes you can and they stack
Shred will be applied first

[brittle lintel]

ahh no this gem gives some to light weapons...

[lilac helm]

12% 🗿

[brittle lintel]

but still not that crazy..

a heavy weapon goes brrr

[lilac helm]

Usually I pair a heavy weapon with a Twilight gem in my chestplate to get complete armor shred

[brittle lintel]

but i dont want heavy weapons anymore it just oneshots with currrent hp dmg and 400% crit dmg

wait ahhahaha that gives 100% shred HAHHAHAAH

[lilac helm]

Multiplicative*

[brittle lintel]

but above 100% does it matter?

[lilac helm]

As in, x2 to existing armor shred, not +100% base

[brittle lintel]

like i wanna pair that chestplate twilight gem with a light weapon bc heavy is just to OP in my opinion and i dont wanna oneshot everything

[brittle lintel]

ahhh okeey

so 24% for light weapons after the 12% from the other gem ahahahah

[lilac helm]

And don't forget the Royal gem for your helmet, another x1.15 to that

And other +X% to all stats gems

[brittle lintel]

jupp i love that gem

there is another gem for chestplate with 3.5% stats

[lilac helm]

And one for boots with +10%

[brittle lintel]

and for boots with 10

[lilac helm]

So that's like x1.3

In total

[brittle lintel]

jupp just saww that too 😉

nicee

[lilac helm]

So 31.2% shred

Not terrible

[brittle lintel]

warlors gems and the base atk dmg gem are so hard to get man...

[brittle lintel]

thats nice*

bro quick question how does current hp dmg get calculated.

lets say i have a weaopn with reforged attribute 12% curren hp and the gem for 6%

so 18% and my weapon has 400% crit dmg

isnt that like 18% times the 400% crit dmg

so 18 times 5 right?

[lilac helm]

What's your weapon, is it the dragonsteel weapon or a Terrible Sword?

[brittle lintel]

so 90% current hp dmg

dragonsteal great sword

[lilac helm]

And your Crit Chance value?

[brittle lintel]

i mean it was this i gotta make anotherone thanks to sons of sins haahaha

i had above 100% crit chance

bc from reforging and then gem with crit chance it was like 120 or smth like that

[lilac helm]

Ok so
It takes the current health of a mob, calculates a percentage based off the current value of the attribute (so 18%) in this case and that's the base damage
Then it would calculate any critical damage off of that value so in this case x5 or more depending on RNG

And then any other damage would be added on and calculated too

[brittle lintel]

so mob has 10k hp with 18% i get 1800 dmg and than times 5 its 9k dmg?

so its basically a one shot if i can shred the armor

[lilac helm]

Yeah

[brittle lintel]

yeah... thats why I want a normal light weapon lol hahaha thats too OP

[lilac helm]

They did change it in 1.21 to no longer let Current HP damage be affected by crits

which was a needed W

[brittle lintel]

ahh okkey yeah makes sense

this gem is so rare man...

[lilac helm]

This guy no?

[brittle lintel]

...

try and see what happens when he steals your weapon

and you kill it with knowledge of the ages

if it really disapears

[lilac helm]

Ok let me make a setup for myself so I don't die

[brittle lintel]

or mybe i just left without checking the dropped loots

[brittle lintel]

ii i thought you were in creative uppps

what weapons are you rocking?

ahh now I see why you said terrible sword... it has base 50% crit dmg and 10% crit chance

so with current HP dmg it should out dmg any other heavy weapon even it they have more base atk dmg

[lilac helm]

Yeah I think so cause it's multiplicative
So 600% Crit Damage...

[brittle lintel]

yeahh its def the stronges one with that 50% free crit dmg lol hahahaah

[lilac helm]

I got to switch to Survival for him to steal and I don't want to die or get caught off guard with my other testing gear

[brittle lintel]

hahahahah yeahh dont die for me ahaha

[lilac helm]

Nope the weapon still dropped

[brittle lintel]

dang it.. so i let it dispawn...

we should get a notification when he steals lol

its all good i farmed lvls and gemdust now

just better gems

[lilac helm]

Uh
What version is your Son of Sins mod?

Cause he's not despawning for me, so maybe we have different versions

I have 2.1.10

[brittle lintel]

lemme check#

i mean the weapon dispawned after i killed him maybe

bc i just flew away without checking

[lilac helm]

Ok yeah that would do it

[brittle lintel]

2.1.10 version

so it just my fault for not checking

[lilac helm]

Yeah
Minecraft do be like that

[brittle lintel]

bc i saw the dungeon and combat boss on my map and went to beat him

the knight

and then after defeating i was why no loot?

then i just went on my way

and after i found another fight again no loot then i was like waiiiit

which weapon am I using

and then i found out

[lilac helm]

Oh wait

Now Knowledge IS consuming the weapon

[brittle lintel]

😭

you maybe know what this does?

[lilac helm]

Better enchantments from the enchantment table

[brittle lintel]

ahh so nothing good

[lilac helm]

Like beyond limits

[brittle lintel]

when im fully into apotheosis enchantments

like sharpness X?

[lilac helm]

Yep

[brittle lintel]

i mean i got it

[lilac helm]

Knowledge of the Ages 5

[brittle lintel]

from exreacting it from wandering trader

and prot x also from a big phantom

in a colloseom

[lilac helm]

https://tenor.com/view/bald-cat-fingert-cat-meowmeow-gif-3402660118601958867

[brittle lintel]

with a spawner that has cooldown of 14000

whats that place?

what highes sharpness is it X? so if i got it already i dont need to go that route yeah?

[lilac helm]

Ok so you clearly found the best structures already
But yeah any enchantment that you can get from the enchantment table you can buff over its normal limit

[lilac helm]

I mean fair

[brittle lintel]

wait fr?? why is that ahhaha does the phantom just give crazy loot?

[lilac helm]

Yeah

[brittle lintel]

i was planing on buffing that spawner with apotheosis

i need 1140 clocks for that

[lilac helm]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

[brittle lintel]

ahahahahah so 4k gold and 1k redstone

i got that so i could do it

[lilac helm]

And then

SUGAR

[brittle lintel]

i have 2k sugercane muhahaha

i was afraid of breaking that spawner

like even with silk touch

i just let it be there and put a waystone

and in the catacombs of that strucure was where the sons of sin boss stole my weapon

so yeah luck and unlucky

[lilac helm]

Also found out why you can tweak anything from Sons of Sins 🗿

[brittle lintel]

thiiiiing

hahaaah

lets get my OP light weapon

okkey looks good reforged

now onto geming and enchanting

[mild nebula]

I keep getting kicked from my local server. Don't know how to replicate as was just afk. Any ideas? Playing on MC5 1.21.1 v39HF, ATLauncher 1.21.1
https://mclo.gs/vFy6X0J

[wanton oak]

did you add any mods

any particle mods to be specific

[slate timber]

anybody Please

[mild nebula]

@slate timber Soft locked in what way? Like stuck in loading screen?

[small brook]

what gems did you add to that

[brittle lintel]

Crit dmg gem, crit chance gem, the 10 base atk dmg gem, the 50% atk speed gem,

Its pretty decent now

[slate timber]

i see the cool background with no buttons and just the tips cycling in the bottom left

nothing i can do to leave it so i m forced to restart the thing

not even like freezing, the tips are cycling and the background is still animated

[brittle lintel]

Bro can i pick up that spawner with silk touch? Or is it a spezial one that cant be picked up

I‘m afraid to break it

And idk if no AI is safe to apply to that or not

[lapis pelican]

Don’t use ai to determine things. It’s always wrong

[lilac helm]

Yeah you can attach no AI and move the spawner, I've done it before

Note that no AI will only apply for the phantoms, I believe the skeletons will still try to shoot you

[slate timber]

you can't be serious 😭

[lapis pelican]

The tools like Gemini and copilot? Yeah, always wrong, as for a mod with that item you’ll have to check in Emi for it

[brittle lintel]

Bro i mean no AI attribute from appotheosis

[brittle lintel]

Ah okkey the skeleton is the one who drops OP stuff yeah?

[lapis pelican]

Gotta love abbreviations overlapping

Been a lot of people coming into support areas saying they used ai to see if something is in packs or to fix their crashes

[slate timber]

No but how the ai would even know what is their logic

[plucky drift]

does the magic mirror from relics require special conditions to work ?

[tranquil solstice]

Yes, you need to be within a certain distance of your spawn point, I think 1000 blocks if maxed.

[lapis pelican]

Too many people rely on it as if it’s an all knowing god or something

[lilac helm]

AI is just becoming more stupid and more common by the hour

Companies are starting to plaster it everywhere as if it really is the pinnacle of technology and the future when in reality its gonna mess everything up within a decade

[left musk]

Friend is messing around with more of the mods and stumbled on this was wanting to know if this was known/overlooked/or intended
The guide book for Forbidden & Arcanus don't work
I don't remember the name, and I'm out of the game.
But I can tell you that it's unnamed, and unlisted in JEI, but you can still craft it using a book and deorum ingot + deorum nugget, I think

[tranquil solstice]

Does it work when you craft it or do you mean by "don't work" that it doesn't contain any information?

[left musk]

Well they have no access to creative so they must have crafted it. And I can only assume it contained no information but will ask

[tranquil solstice]

Aight, thanks. You're on v38, right?

[left musk]

mmmmmmm let me double checko

i know there was an update but we didn;t update since that can cause issues on the server in our past experiances

37

[tranquil solstice]

Oki good, cuz I haven't updated myself :] If it's v37HF we'd be on the same version.

HF or just 37?

[left musk]

37 hf

[tranquil solstice]

Okay ty :D

[left musk]

I am double checking that they crafted it and it contianed no info. just incase there was a glitched chest loot spawn and it got int here somehow

[left musk]

No, I crafted it, but nothing happens when you try to use it.
No interface ever opens. From fren

[tranquil solstice]

I see, alright. Gonna see if it's any different for me.

[left musk]

Thanky

[tranquil solstice]

Hmm, just looking in my modpack folder and the \patchouli_books folder is empty. Looks like muon added the recipe but not the book itself.

On my way ingame to see if maybe he put it somewhere else, but if it doesn't show it wouldn't surprise me XD

[left musk]

lmao gotcha does that mean the mod isn't really there then?

[tranquil solstice]

Yes. Well, it's not a mod, just smth like a resource pack. If you would like to read it I can send it as a zip file.

[left musk]

that confuses me but sure!

I know it's for making a forge and doing rituals and such at least the mod it. I assume the book is directions

I should theorhetically be able to slap it where it's supposed to be...so they aren't relying on possibly outdated info in online guides right?

[tranquil solstice]

The forge-upgrades should be in JEI, but yes, the book contains additional information about items mechanics. It's not the most comprehensive guide (it's not made by the mod author actually) so if you still have questions, you can always ask here.

In your main directory (where the \mods folder is, too) there is a \patchouli_books folder. Stuff it in there and extract it. Should be good to go then.

[left musk]

Do I do that serverside or client side or both?

if it's just a resource pack i assume therhetically just serverside should work

[tranquil solstice]

I think the clients need it as well. I'd stuff it in both just to be sure.

[left musk]

thanks!

[tranquil solstice]

Welcome :)

@molten vigil Perhaps you'd like to add the Forbidden & Arcanus book content next update, too.

[left musk]

Thankies a ton

[balmy bough]

Would be nice-there’s not much of a guide for it

[tranquil solstice]

I think it was actually planned (hence the recipe for the book), just forgot the book file ;)

[balmy bough]

Lmao, ended up crafting it and then debating why it wouldn’t open xD

Maybe change the gem dust in the recipe to arcane crystal/arcane crystal dust? Would make more sense thematically

[lilac helm]

Oh yeah I added the recipe but completely forgot to mention the book itself

Very cheap recipe though, I'm not all chaotic

[tranquil solstice]

Np. I hadn't noticed because I added it manually before.

[lilac helm]

Fair. And you probably just now noticed that there's now a recipe for it

[tranquil solstice]

Yep XD

[lilac helm]

Well now you don't have to worry about what to do if you lose your copy.

[tranquil solstice]

True.

[brittle lintel]

Sorry to bother you but quick question, why doesnt it spawn?

Do i need ignor conditions? Or ignore lighting or smth like that?

Or do i need to not sleep for 3 days?

[lilac helm]

Probably one of these

[brittle lintel]

Hmm does dragon egg respawn after kiling the dragon more times?

[lilac helm]

Try lighting first

[brittle lintel]

Okky ill donit then ill try taking no ai away maybe that

[lilac helm]

Also if you did the upgrades all at once it'll still go through one more slow cycle before speeding up

[brittle lintel]

Ahh so maybe thats it

How long is 14000 ticks?

[lilac helm]

Like 10 minutes

[brittle lintel]

Okkey ill try and take lighting away and then stay 10mins there

Does dragon egg respawn after killing the ender dragon more times?

[lilac helm]

No

Not from what I know

[brittle lintel]

So its really a one time item

[lilac helm]

I think there might be one structure where extras can spawn in but idk

[brittle lintel]

Ahh okey

Bc only use would be for spawners and the arcane dragon egg

Idk what that does tho

[lilac helm]

Yeah give it some time
You'll notice the phantom in the spawner eventually start to spin faster and faster

14000 ticks is 11.67 minutes so yeah

-# nobody say it

[brittle lintel]

🤣

Oky thannks!

[tranquil solstice]

In MMC1 there was a structure with extra dragon eggs, but I haven't seen that in MMC4. I don't think you can get more than 1 egg here.

You could add Ice and Fire dragon eggs as valid upgrade items in the config though.

[lilac helm]

Would be datapack but eh

[brittle lintel]

i put that green gem into my leggings, 80% less hp but 80% more dmg. now my light weapon is really strong

i have 97hp only tho

idk if its worth it

yessir it started

[lilac helm]

And I would definitely add a second layer to it such as having to infuse them in the enchanting table first

[tranquil solstice]

"Infused Dragon Egg" would be a new item though, can't do that without muon.

[lilac helm]

Nothing some NBT couldn't do

Just attach an NBT tag to it and require that NBT tag in order to use it

[tranquil solstice]

I mean, I was suggesting adding the dragon eggs as a personal config edit, not a modpack change XD Or do you mean you can require an NBT tag in Apotheosis' datapack?

[lilac helm]

Yeah just use Forge's Partial NBT

[tranquil solstice]

Ah, interesting. Alright.

[lilac helm]

As for if it would be an actual modpack change
That would be up to muon

[tranquil solstice]

For sure. If someone wanted to add it personally though, they'd also have to add the infusion recipe for the dragon eggs. Which might be more effort than anyone's willing who just wants a more reasonable spawner-upgrade than a unique egg.

[brittle lintel]

i thougth the loot would be better lol

i got plenty prot X

i hoped for a tons of gems

[lilac helm]

Yeah fair enough, the infusion recipe would just be a balancing factor

I'll see about tinkering around with that idea tomorrow

But yeah, not that hard to mess around with

[tranquil solstice]

Make sure you spell "Amythest" correctly false 😛 #medieval-mc-forge message

[lilac helm]

Oh and you led me directly to clean code that I can expand on

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah, some guy and I were adding that a while ago, took us a bit to figure it out tho haha.

[lilac helm]

Fr though, Amythest

[tranquil solstice]

:D

[lilac helm]

Watch as it stays the same when Ice and Fire II comes out

[tranquil solstice]

Bet, lol

It's most definitely an inside joke for them atp.

[brittle lintel]

where is the entrance?? i went all around it and escavated

its the harbriner

harbringer

bruuhh found it sorry

there was deepslate that looked like the dungeon block

[shy tiger]

What’s a good mob to farm gems from?

[tranquil solstice]

Naturally spawned endermen.

[minor raven]

WTF is this...and can i keep Pillagers from coming here?

[balmy bough]

Functionally a pillager outpost

[minor raven]

so they always spawn there?

[lilac helm]

There got the first part set up
Now to copy this over 11 more times

(I set requirements to 50 Eterna, 100% Quanta and at least 80% Arcana)

[lilac helm]

Alright just gotta add the eggs to the spawner modifier

And that is done
(Ender Dragon Egg is still in the list of acceptable items)

And it works perfectly as expected

[tranquil solstice]

That's great 😄

[brittle lintel]

Yyooo. You changed apotheosis so it works with ice and fire dragon eggs? What a genius

Bro you know why i get 0 speed and my FOV gets zoomed in when i try and use a heavy weapon??

Like wheni take off a piece of armor and put it back in it refreshes abd then it works again

This keeps happening since i got my shield

I recently crafted one and reforged and put gems into it

[lilac helm]

You're using an Dragonsteel Katana right?

[brittle lintel]

No for heavy weapon it doesnt matter which one i have on handy

Habd

I just get 0 speed cant move and FOV gets down a lot

Like i tested it with the cataclystic heavy weapon

Simply swords heavy weapons

And dragonsteel great sword

[tranquil solstice]

Aren't heavy weapons two-handed? How do you want to use a shield with that :o

[brittle lintel]

No i just have 2 builds one with heavy weapon to oneshot and then light for normal playing

Bc after i finish a boss and need to farm them i use heavy weapon

But for first time i use light bc its fun

[tranquil solstice]

Ah okay. Do you get any status effects when carrying a heavy weapon and are slow?

[brittle lintel]

Idk resiliance and well fed i think

And shield hast the affix strong armor but when blocking

But i aint blocking

[tranquil solstice]

Do you keep the shield in offhand when using the heavy weapon?

[nocturne juniper]

Is there anything in MMC5 that gives a flat crit chance increase?

[balmy bough]

Apotheosis right

[nocturne juniper]

Anything

I’ve only found % crit chance in apoth gems

[brittle lintel]

Reforging gives stats to the weapon and a stat can be crit chance so thats that

[nocturne juniper]

Flat crit chance?

[brittle lintel]

Yes like but for heavy weapons and light weapons you get other modifier

Heavy has a bigger number

That 30% is on a light weapon

And that is the max for the ancient reforging

So with my weapon i put in the perfect gem for crit chance aswell and i got the 15% to all stats gem on helmet.
I got now 92% crit chance

So pretty solid

[tranquil solstice]

Well, he did say MMC5. So most of that stuff isn't available to him, only up to Mythic and no gems from Apotheotic Additions.

[brittle lintel]

Ah my bad i didn see mmc5

And tbf hopefully if they dont allow such weapons in mmc5 then hopefully they balanced the bosses

Bc without such weapons good luck with the cataclim bosses

Like 4k hp with big armor is hard if you dont have such weapons and crazy armor

Like i have fill enchanted prot X dragonsteel armor with max attributes in armor and toughness. And affixes like takes 30% less physical dmg, magical dmg and projectile dmg on all pieces.

And idk what that atk was from the harbringer, but he took 2 out of my 6 healthbar rows with a hit

But my weapon has life steal so i just went all in then i was full again

Or maybe that hit was somehow glitched out bc how much dmg does he need to do if I have full prot X

Max for Prot is 85% dmg reduction. And each prot gives 2.5% so with prot X on all 4 pieces thats 40 points so about the 85. but its capped at 85%

So i got full there and some pieces ignore physicsl dmg and magical and projectile

So pretty much i reduce so many dmg idk how hard they beed to hit to get me

And 300points of armor and 150 thoughness

[nocturne juniper]

It should be noted, that's a % bonus to your flat crit chance

If you click the sword in your player icon in inventory you can scroll down to see how your actual crit chance is calculated

[lilac helm]

Laughs in 20M hp with full Protection, 10k armor and Current HP damage resistance

And don't get started on the damage outputs

[gaunt stone]

does the new mmc5 update bring back hazen n sfuff mod to the latest update?

[molten vigil]

it doesn't

[gaunt stone]

:(

[molten vigil]

discerning the eldritch is in the middle of a big rework, and it's the same developer for a couple of the other mods that have outdated azurelib support

so we'll be stuck with old hazen n stuff until they finish

[neon tulip]

hello terribly sorry, English not my first language so sorry if something would be not clear. Ok back to question i have bought some local server on hosting and trying to install this modpack on it but without success, is it correct that i can ask some help with that here?

[lapis pelican]

All good, got a few questions to have an idea what could be happening. Who is the host you are using? How was the modpack installed to it? (The host installing for you or downloading serverpack and installing it yourself) Is the server crashing when trying to turn it on, or when you try to enter the server?

[minor raven]

how do i keep this lil Man Non Agro

i wanna loot his Stuff.......

[neon tulip]

ok step by step
1 hosting: https://gamely.pro/
2 download myself from CurseForge server-pack and unzipped it, after that i have manually got forge kernel for server and upload it to server so the answer is myself here
3 it doesn`t crush but have memory leaks and after ever sever restart game-world wiped
4 it works somehow but i feel that not for long

[lapis pelican]

How much ram does server have? Did you download serverpack from Curseforge app, or Curseforge website? The world shouldn’t be wiping at all that’s so weird.

[neon tulip]

16gb, have tried both and same result 🥲

[minor raven]

would you happen to know how to not anger the Pyromancer? perchance

[neon tulip]

i would have any information to share with you about this question after i realise how to get on server and play a little bit, cuz i have played less then 2 hours on modpack

[minor raven]

ahhh i see....

cus hes like a villager type deal and when i loot chest near em this man fucking nukes me

with fire spells

[neon tulip]

maybe something like gold equipment while you exploring nether, like with piglins?

[minor raven]

maybe...google says pyromancers MIGHT calm down if you use a fire spell

yet idk how trustworthy it si

is

[neon tulip]

dont think, that the idea is good but if you say nuke and if its fire damage just dodge it with this ring,
maybe try to find any ideas in let's plays on youtube
or try to find something in quest book about it

i know that you always anger him but that all what i can find helpful so sorry if nothing new or usable

[minor raven]

NAH ur fine...any help i appreciate it i can move him so far

maybe if i move him and trap him some where he can just be cool?

[neon tulip]

if i m not wrong if piglin don`t see you opening chest he doesn't get mad at you

so maybe it can works here

[minor raven]

i tried that before in his basement of loot but its like a certain area or view place

[neon tulip]

but maybe there is some gamerule that he has HIS OWN CHEST that notified him if it has been opened

[minor raven]

most likely...

i am moving him to test it so.

i hope it goes well lmao

he does go invisible tho like a wanderer trader

[neon tulip]

not the best idea but sit him in boat and build some kind of walls around him

[minor raven]

yeah...but if it works i can make a thread and leave info i found

[minor raven]

plan A is success....plan B of outcome will check it

IT WORKED

Pyromancer Non Agro

[coral viper]

hey !

I would like to know what changes between the medievalmc versions MMC 3, 4, 5 ?

[tranquil solstice]

MMC3 is on Minecraft 1.19, MMC4 on Minecraft 1.20 and MMC5 on Minecraft 1.21. Since not all mods exist for all Minecraft versions, there are also differences in that regard between the modpacks.
If you'd like a more in depth comparison, you can use this tool:

!compare

[waxen brook]

https://www.modpackindex.com/modpacks

[coral viper]

ooh thx !

[coral viper]

Which one is the best according to you?

[tranquil solstice]

I've personally only played MMC1 (on Minecraft 1.16.5) and MMC4 (Minecraft 1.20.1). So I can't give you a proper evaluation of MMC3 and MMC5. 4 and 5 are still getting updated, while MMC3 doesn't, so I'd certainly recommend one of the two latest versions. Generally speaking, from what I heard, MMC4 has a bit more content and MMC5 a bit better performance.

[brittle lintel]

Who has this? Is it a boss? Or your player?

And btw you nkow smthing about getting 0 speed bc of holding heavy weapons?😭

[lilac helm]

Nope nothing at this point

[lilac helm]

Bosses, but none of them currently (ongoing project)

^

[lean fulcrum]

So, I was building a base in the side of a mountain, (for a long while) and when I went outside, I found llamas. Like 50+? I didn't count them, but there are a ton. Anyone know what that is all about? They all have leads and loaded inventories, like they were part of a caravan, but there are no traders or other mobs around. Just groups of 5-10 everywhere I look directly above my base

Is there a known issue with their spawns, or is my game just being wierd?

[mystic salmon]

they multiply like rabbits

[lean fulcrum]

I mean I am not sad about free cookies and cocoa beans

[mystic salmon]

My best guess is that traders went out leads broke and they stayed

But could be an spawn issue bcs of your place traders try to spawn as clsoe to the players as possible but at samw time they have min range from player spawn so

[left musk]

how might I enable the tome of peritia in blood magic

[nocturne juniper]

This happens in MMC5 with the pillager caravan donkeys as well

Every time I go over to a specific player's house on my server, she's got like ten more donkeys and zero explanation for how she got them

[tranquil solstice]

From what I understand the tome was an item in older versions of Blood Magic (versions 2.x), but after the rework it hasn't been implemented yet (versions 3.x). Since it's still mentioned in the guide book though, I assume it will be added back sometime in the future.

[left musk]

awh so no way to store xp currently Dx

[tranquil solstice]

Naur :[

[lean fulcrum]

Yup, every time I go outside, more llamas.

[left musk]

sadness, thanks!

[nocturne juniper]

What version are you on?

[left musk]

37hf

[nocturne juniper]

so mmc5?

Wait no mmc5 is 39 ain't it

Which MMC version xD

[tranquil solstice]

MMC4...

[nocturne juniper]

MMC5 is v30 now

Gotcha alright

[nocturne juniper]

Well I don't know how compatible it is with MMC4 but you could try addin Sophisticated Backpacks. It adds upgradeable backpacks and one of the upgrades is tank and another is xp pump to fill the tank

We've had no issues with it on MMC5

[foggy relic]

This is really late, I was underestimating how much time I had outside of exam prep, apologies for not responding.

Not really, it's somewhat strange really. When you log in, it sets the attribute that Iron's Jewelry uses, irons_spellbooks:max_mana, to the value of the attribute that is seemingly used by all other mods, ars_nouveau:ars_nouveau.perk.max_mana. So both attributes are set to the wrong value at that time. Then if you unequip and equip the items, Iron's attribute is modified again and both attributes now has parts of the max mana and neither is correct.

Right now if you have a base mana of 100, +50 added from another mod and have a ring from Iron's Jewelry that adds 250 mana, your max mana is 150 and the attributes has the following values:
irons_spellbooks:max_mana: 350
ars_nouveau:ars_nouveau.perk.max_mana: 150

I presume that the compat should make the items from Iron's Jewelry modify ars_nouveau:ars_nouveau.perk.max_mana rather than irons_spellbooks:max_mana since that is the attribute that is shown in the mana bar.

[molten vigil]

Right yeah, I missed that you said Iron's Jewelry earlier

we do unify them all towards Ars Nouveau mana, but I missed that Iron's Jewelry added mana/rune patterns

should be fixed in the "Medieval" mod version 2.1.5

you can update it manually if you'd like that fixed before the next modpack version https://modrinth.com/mod/medieval-core-mod/versions

earl the questionable

[white karma]

When I installed the update, the Hazen n stuff mod was version 1.2, whereas before the update it was 1.3.5. Is that how it should be? I lost a lot of items from the world.

The rings are gone too. I had two rings for 300% extra HP, now they're gone.

Mmc5

[molten vigil]

Yeah, this was a change made in v29 HF so it wasn't anywhere in announcements:
"Hotfix - Downgraded Hazen n' Stuff to 1.2.0, due to various issues in 1.3+ that were only resolved after it ported to AzureLib 3.1+, which 4 other mods in this modpack don't yet support."

you can always update it to 1.3.5 yourself, though it may have issues (to note, +300% max HP rings don't sound intentional lol)

[white karma]

The elytra from deeper darker can no longer be equipped with a cloak, which is very inconvenient. Where can I see the full list of changes?

And okay, I understand the rollback of the hazen mod version, but it would have been worth writing about it. Maybe it was written, but I just didn't see it. Although I switched from version 29 to 30 and lost a bunch of stuff that I spent too much time on. Good thing I have a backup. But there are players who didn't do that.

Now, for every step I take in the game, the FPS drops from 100 to 0.

[tropic loom]

hey team how do i summon karkinos? i have the hook and i'm holding it in my offhand when i cast my rod, but nothing is happening

i'm in a cold ocean

oops nevermind i got it

[nocturne juniper]

Yo MMC5 anyone know why I'm droppin from 120 to 4 fps when approachin the origin island altar?

It seems to be lag comin from the altar itself

When askin my server ai it says the ritual core is constantly spawning something

but I've no clue what

[brittle lintel]

what the freak is that hhahahahaha

[brittle lintel]

look i get a wierd modifier

for speed aswell

[brittle lintel]

look at this very wierd stuff going on

[dense lichen]

Hi guys, what is the best set in the modpack mmc4?

[toxic mirage]

on MMC5 killing a yeti is crashing my server. Anyone have any ideas why that might be?

[shell tartan]

by any chance

is it an aphotic boss?

[shell tartan]

depends on your playstyle

[toxic mirage]

not sure. someone on the server told me about it. said it was a yeti. He found it in a yeti cave.

[shell tartan]

does it have crash report?

[toxic mirage]

nah unfortunately. i can make him recreate it. i can try to look at the server console

[shell tartan]

or just provide the latest.log if it's too much

[toxic mirage]

would i get that from the person who actually crashed the server or the server itself?

[shell tartan]

server log should have it

cause you're on server right

[toxic mirage]

should be it

[outer hollow]

Uploaded 2025-12-21-6.log from @toxic mirage to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/TwmT57A

[shell tartan]

well for now try to avoid it

also if you happen to see aphotic invader especially boss mob (like ender golem) avoid hitting it as it have a very high chance on crashing the server/game

[gritty marsh]

hey if i had a question about why orges cant use shields in medieval origins would i constult the support channel orrrrrrr i just want to disable it and i do not know how because it isnt listed on the config it says unusable (1)

[brittle lintel]

Hey does anybody know how to get esoteric items in MMC4? Like do i need just to get lucky in the end and hope something drops a gearpiece?

Or just go really far in the end

And more and more spawn

[balmy bough]

Might be best to do that

[tranquil solstice]

In the origins config you can set "medievalorigins:ogre/unwieldy" = true to false.

[tranquil solstice]

Only Maledictus, Ignis and the Ender Guardian can drop esoteric affix items, once you maxed out your skill tree.

[tranquil solstice]

Can't see a yeti in here. Did the server actually crash? Then there should be a \crash-reports folder in the server's directory (the file you sent comes from \logs instead).

[nocturne juniper]

Do you know if there's any plans to add esoteric items to MMC5?

[tranquil solstice]

@nocturne juniper This is what muon said about it. That's all I know, sorry.

[nocturne juniper]

Mm, gotcha

[gritty marsh]

thank you

[gritty marsh]

thank you!

[brittle lintel]

So i gotta be lvl 150 in skill tree so i can get esoterics??

[tranquil solstice]

Correct.

[brittle lintel]

Thats a bit lame

Like im already maxed out by the time i reach lvl 150😭

[molten vigil]

Esoterics aren't necessary to progress at all, they're just an optional post-game grind for people who want to minmax funny high number

[brittle lintel]

But i guess ancient affix items are also pretty strong and i should be able to ease all bosses with it

[brittle lintel]

Yeah that just crossed my mind now ahahahah

Its a bit lame that ancient is better then heirloom and the other one

Like heirloom has no play at all

[tranquil solstice]

That's something cHin is working on, so it probably won't stay that way forever.

[white karma]

Regular elytra can be equipped in the cloak slot, but soul elytra from deeper and darker cannot be equipped with the update. MMC5

[lean fulcrum]

quick question, is there a way to make the Source Relays from Ars connect to more than 1 source and 1 target?

like am I missing something? They seem to cause exponentially more lag with each one connected :/

[tranquil solstice]

Yes, use a Splitter.

[dense lichen]

Just give me 2 examples, something like meele tank/warrior or assasin

[brittle lintel]

Is he the creator of apotheotic addition?

Or just from the modpack so he changes the configs?

[tranquil solstice]

Only for this modpack specifically.

[brittle lintel]

Ah nice!

Great work i love the pack so far

There is something that makes me a bit angry but idk where it comes from😂

[brittle lintel]

Whatch this 😭

I get cooked when i wanna use heavy weapons and idk what causes it

Earlier in my playthrough it was okey

Waiittt can this happen bc i have like 6 backpacks with me?

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah, I don't know what's causing it either. You can either unequip everything you have and then re-equip slowly and check when it starts happening, or send the level.dat file of your world-save (assuming you're in singleplayer).

[brittle lintel]

yooo wtf check this

look at my max health when i switch weapons??

[lean fulcrum]

dunno how I missed that, but thank you 🙂

[brittle lintel]

i just now realized that i lose max health??

ahh wait i get it now

because when using heavy weapon i dont use the shield

so i lose on my buffs from that

[tranquil solstice]

Sure, but do you have -119% movement speed without the shield?

[brittle lintel]

yeah that is wierd idk

its really random

like for now i have the heavy weapon in hand but it is fine

like when i remove and put back some reforged charms it also gets wierd

verryy wierd when i take of my leggings i get 2x speed

and when i take of chestplate bye speed

maybe something bc of the skill tree?

[tranquil solstice]

Well, if you do that ↑↑↑ and it happens without anything equipped, it could be from the skill tree. Right now almost impossible to say with all the things you have equipped.

[brittle lintel]

ahh yeah wait i gotta try that my bad

[tranquil solstice]

On a side note though, I cannot see anything related to movement speed in your skill tree, not sure how it could slow you down in any way.

[brittle lintel]

yeah i think it cant be that after checking it

took everything of and it was wierd now i checked this relic

[tranquil solstice]

Ohh, that sounds like it could cause that.

[brittle lintel]

wth hahahahah

[tranquil solstice]

Uhhhh.

[brittle lintel]

i got it

the relic says something about max health missing

and when i wield the heavy weapon i have less max health because of not getting my shield buffs

so maybe i get negative stats bc of that

the relic says speed and atk speed

and those 2 factors are effected when i use heavy weapon

like it doesent make sense because hte multipliers are really not that big if you watch at what is should give

[tranquil solstice]

Makes sense. Put the rage glove in a chest for a day or so, and if the effect doesn't appear anymore you know that the theory is correct.

[brittle lintel]

yeah that glove is GONEE hahahaha

[tranquil solstice]

Glad we figured that out, cuz I gotta go for a while now, too 😝

[brittle lintel]

hahahah thanks for the tipp!

have a nice day 😉

[lilac helm]

if (canUseAbility(stack, "phlebotomy")) {
            float percentage = 100F - (player.getHealth() / player.getMaxHealth() * 100F);

Yep you're getting negative stats

-# The fact too that this could've so easily been failsafed by adding a min function

[brittle lintel]

ahh yeah so less then 100% health means negative stats..

[brittle lintel]

yeahh looll like make it min 20% less stats or hek 30 but anything abovee that is crazy

[lilac helm]

Well the function just simply calculates the percentage of missing health that you have

However, when your maxed health is changed, it doesn't immediate update your current health if you lost max health, it only does so if you take damage or heal (I think)

From player.getHealth() / player.getMaxHealth() only a value between 0 and 1 should be possible but in your case it's unintentionally greater than 1.

All that would have to be done to fix this is to just add a min function and set the second parameter to 0 so that you can't get a negative percent this way.

[brittle lintel]

im looking for Scylla and just found my 2nd leviathan lol...

[brittle lintel]

yeah normally for me that sounds wierd also, bc my max health just changes . i dont love % of maxed health

[lilac helm]

Like you can see here, even though I only have 33 Max Health, the game thinks that I have 37 Health on me because it was originally 37 Max Health before unequipping my helmet and the game hasn't updated my health value yet to reflect that. Only if I take damage would it properly update to the new value (or lower if it was a high damage attack)

I could just slip my helmet right back on now and it would maintain the extra health and act as if nothing happened

[brittle lintel]

yeahh i figured it also out that unequiping and equiping armor pieces refreshes it i just didnt know why

[lilac helm]

I believe that Minecraft or Apotheosis (or Neoforge I'm not sure) fixed it in 1.21 so that they do properly update

[brittle lintel]

ahh thats nicce

[faint willow]

how to fix this?

[cerulean magnet]

That's the instruction

[faint willow]

how that works? cuz yesterday mc works fine

today this thing pop up

[lapis pelican]

please read the text.

[faint willow]

so i did everything, and now this pop up

[lapis pelican]

again, the pop says the screenshot does nothing. you need to read the top

please read pop ups.

[faint willow]

Medieval MC 4 - v38 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
2. Have you changed the modpack in any way besides adding/removing mods?
3. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
4. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | hs_err_pid24480.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt | CurseForge: skip launcher | i9-14900hx might be the reason for the crash

# Problematic frame:
# C  [igxelpicd64.dll+0xc284c4]

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

Mod list was not modified.

[cerulean magnet]

!fps

[waxen brook]

https://wiki.lunapixel.gg/performance-guide

[cerulean magnet]

Your game is using your integrated GPU, instead of the Nvidia one

Follow the full guide anyway, it has a lot of worth doing things, and one of them is a fix for your issue

[faint willow]

thanks, am gonna check

integrated gpu disabled, still crashing

Medieval MC 4 - v38 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:
What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...),
Have you changed the modpack in any way besides adding/removing mods?,
Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?,
What steps cause the crash?,
latest.log | hs_err_pid22780.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt | CurseForge: skip launcher | i9-14900hx might be the reason for the crash,

Problematic frame:

V [jvm.dll+0x5884db]

Found 1 log analysis results:
Jvm in: hs_err_pid22780.log

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:,
Mod list was not modified.

[cerulean magnet]

You've not followed the rest of the guide

[granite fog]

When did the Merlin race lose haste underwater.

[hidden ember]

where can i find the mod that makes it so that the player auto-sneaks when opening an inventory on a ladder

[toxic mirage]

anyone know why my render distance might be automatically resetting? i know we have farsight in this mod pack. but i notice no matter what i set it to, the next t ime i go back into my setting the render distance is reset back to 12

[grizzled nebula]

from what I've heard it may be because of broken modpack installation - what launcher and provider you're using?

[toxic mirage]

i use prism. and downloaded from curseforge

[grizzled nebula]

online or offline
and didn't we have this convo before

[lapis pelican]

modrinth or curseforge version of the pack

[toxic mirage]

not with me. and online

[toxic mirage]

curseforge

[subtle flax]

hi, can you tell me if there is a server part of the modpack? There was no such information on Coursforge.

[tranquil solstice]

If you mean a server pack - yes, on the CurseForge website under "Additional Files".

[subtle flax]

Thank you, you really helped me.

[tranquil solstice]

Anytime :)

[hollow monolith]

Hey so since Apotheosis doesn't seem to have world tiers in 1.20 how does the scaling work in this one? Sorry if this is a dumb question I couldn't seem to find a concrete answer

[tranquil solstice]

In MMC4 mob level mainly depends on the amount of points in your skill tree and the dimension you're in.

[hollow monolith]

Gotcha so the more levels I have the higher the chances of higher tier loot dropping?

[tranquil solstice]

Yes, you'll find more information in the 3rd pinned message.

[lilac helm]

Yeah basically

[tranquil solstice]

Some rarities can only be found in other dimensions, due to the level-cap per dimension.

[hollow monolith]

I see I see thank you for the help I was really confused!

[tranquil solstice]

Np.

[rigid rover]

Bugs Found:
1.
Build a Stone Lamp (quark mod)
place it on a solid wall
no matter how thick it is you can see trough it until a hollow room shows up
Its basicly a X-ray machine

Normal dog pets are not sync anymore with their armor and they change color when you pick them up and place them somewhere

i posted this 3 times here in the last 10 days, i hope this is the subchannel of this specific modpack

[balmy bough]

You should probably state the actual pack, like mmc4. Which I’m assuming is the pack because I’ve encountered the dog one.

[rigid rover]

wait there are different versions of mmc forge ?

why ?

@balmy bough

and dont tell me they all have diffrent mods in thier packs too

i know there is a difference in forge and fabric

[lilac helm]

https://tenor.com/view/battlebots-battlebot-endgame-robot-wars-robot-war-gif-27003595

[rigid rover]

shit

so there is a mmc1, 2 ,3 and 4 and than than four in both versions of fabric and forge

[lilac helm]

Now they maintain many of the same mods but they differ based on the mods available or unavailable in each version

Each version of MMC is on a different Minecraft version

[rigid rover]

so what happens when mmc6 comes out because of a new minecraft java version ??? how do i update it ?

and what happens to old version modpacks ?

[lilac helm]

Well there is no mmc6 yet

And older version modpacks generally tend to not get updated anymore after a while unless necessary

[rigid rover]

am i the only one who sees a huge load of unnesesary work for all this versions and packs ?

[eager star]

Some major mods that people want to play with can't be on the newer verisons making it hard to remove it.

So instead they make a new one with similar aspects

[lilac helm]

... I think so yes

Many players want to play on the latest versions at the time so yeah

[rigid rover]

ok but what happens when minecraft gets an update and i play mmc4 forge ? how do i upgrade it ? like i do with the modpack itself ?

[lilac helm]

Then you install mmc5 when it comes out (which it has been out)

[eager star]

I doubt it would be compatible with the old modpack

[rigid rover]

i mean i know how to update the modpack but not how to switch from mmc4 to 5

[eager star]

so you'd have to make a new world

[rigid rover]

will not happen

nope

[forest wharf]

you cant switch from mmc4 to mmc5 or any other number

[lilac helm]

It's not like vanilla where you can just change the version of the game and it will carry over

[rigid rover]

so we start always from a fresh world.......... and over 500 hours of building and adventuring with my wife is wasted

really nice concept

[eager star]

Each modpack offers a new set of mods and staying on the same map would literally corrupt the world if not just break it all together

[lilac helm]

Is this... your first modpack by chance?

[eager star]

you can just stay on the same version

[rigid rover]

i stay on mmc4 and when mmc4 dont get any new update, i dont update

[lilac helm]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-confusion-meh-bunny-rabbit-gif-19003098

[eager star]

#better-mc-fabric Seem to be experienced sir, would you be kind enough to check my question out?

[forest wharf]

yeah this is just how modpacks work 😭

[rigid rover]

i dont understand why mmc4 and 5 cant be compatible when they are using the same mods at some point

[forest wharf]

because they arent the entire same mod lists

they can use a lot of the same mods but the mod lists still differ

[lilac helm]

And even the mods themselves are not the same, they change slightly between versions

(code wise and whatnot)

[forest wharf]

even code wise they can make huge changes from major vers

yeah

[rigid rover]

ok what if i only want to transfer what we build ?

[forest wharf]

you can install something like forgematica

[lilac helm]

I was gonna suggest some method but chances are your suggestion is better

Oh yeah just a Litematica port

[tranquil solstice]

Important to note though that if you used any blocks in your build from mods that aren't present in the new modpack version (or haven't updated to the new Java version even), those will be missing when pasting the schematic.

[lilac helm]

Indeed

[rigid rover]

no problem for me, i wait until all build mods have updated in the new mmc5 version

[lilac helm]

... So basically forever

[rigid rover]

and when this not happens, then i don switch to mmc5

i dont reset our whole progress, we worked so hard on mmc4 gets every update and when mmc5 comes out we dont switch

there are also other good coop games

[tranquil solstice]

Well, MMC5 has been out for a long time already.

[lilac helm]

Yeah like a year+

[tranquil solstice]

It's very unusual to switch though, typically you just stick with the version you are on. I played MMC1 still when there was already MMC4.

[lilac helm]

Yeah generally I wait a bit (like a few months) on the newest modding version of the game before really looking into it

[rigid rover]

as i say i dont do it after hearing we need to reset progress

[tranquil solstice]

And it's also common that parts of the newer Java versions get backported, so modpacks can have some of the new Minecraft features even though they're not on the latest Java version. Another reason not having to switch too hastily.

[lilac helm]

Very true

[rigid rover]

me any my wife talked for a moment and she said, "we play until we have all archivments of the modpack, than we play poe2, i dont have a problem with this"

i must say i see it the same as her

[tranquil solstice]

Quite reasonable.

[lilac helm]

Setting a goal like that is a great way to enjoy modded Minecraft

[rigid rover]

at this moment she is collecting every flying mount the modpack has

i build automated unlimited resource farms

we have alot to do the next 6 months

[lilac helm]

I often like to throw Create into modpacks when I can to make automation of basic necessities easier

Invest a little time into setting it up and never have to worry about things like food or wood or emeralds ever again

Personal preference though

[balmy bough]

They do, they only have different versions to account for major Minecraft updates (1.21, 1.20, etc)

[rigid rover]

it must be an horror to maintain all variations of every pack and thier specific bugs

[balmy bough]

Make sure you get all the quests down too-you could also look into specific mods with Easter eggs like alexs mobs and caves, a lot of the things they do are cool

[lilac helm]

https://tenor.com/view/wario-world-falling-gif-9472766

[balmy bough]

Probably. But it’s not one person, it’s a whole team

The power of friendship and teamwork type shi

[rigid rover]

i know its a team but man its a huge load of code

[balmy bough]

It is. I’ve managed custom packs on my own and figuring out mods to add, quests, config, performance

[rigid rover]

respect to the team for the hard work

[balmy bough]

Hell on earth

[rigid rover]

happy chrismas and a happy new year to the server

i am afk

[balmy bough]

Twin dipped right when im boutta pull up godzilla https://alexscaves.wiki.gg/wiki/Tremorzilla

[rigid rover]

i know about alex mods

[balmy bough]

It’s so peak

[rigid rover]

we already explore them

[balmy bough]

You get the Easter eggs from alexs mobs too

[molten vigil]

yes

[lilac helm]

https://tenor.com/view/piplup-kingofskill-king-of-skill-plush-true-gif-12856544505188716092

[lilac helm]

Speaking of bugs, found another one with Relics

[brittle lintel]

first i was like yay i found the pyramid

then i turned around to see the real one lol

[molten vigil]

well that is a silly one

but i've done the same thing lol

anyway easy patch at least

[brittle lintel]

guys i killed like 5 remnants and none dropped it

ah waiit i need a brush

sorry

[brittle lintel]

loot piniata goes crazy hahhaahah

[pine aspen]

Hey Guys,
I have a question and I hope that someone can solve this for me.
I have a Server with my Friends and we want to kill the Nightwarden. But he takes absolute zero damage. We tried every spell possible and also counterspell him, but nothing seems to work.
Can someone explain what we are doing wrong?

[balmy bough]

https://youtu.be/xuwHjKrQ6nc?si=K7_2tBjmaHiSQTH9 check out the creators vid

You need to fight based on what combat phase he is in.

It’ll say he’s vulnerable to (x), you must fight him with (x)

[lilac helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/822869568409567283/1432727821498716200/caption.gif

[pine aspen]

Yea this is exactly my Problem.
I know that in his first phase he only gets damage from Magic. But we use every spell from spell and spellbooks but he takes Zero damage from it

[balmy bough]

Did you try anything specifically added by TO’s? Like, the weapons dropped from the cataclysm bosses that have built in spells?

[pine aspen]

No just spellbooks and staffs and the corresponding Spells Like lightning Lance, Triple Fireball, etc.

[brittle lintel]

can this destroy items?`

i accidently used it earlier in my base

and it destroyed 6 chests

and i dont remember what was in them

[brittle lintel]

t.o has such cool armor sets

[balmy bough]

Ik and weapons too

[balmy bough]

Best way to test is by using it on an item

[brittle lintel]

im afraid

aaaahah

[brittle lintel]

yeah love it

they should add more from ancient remenant and scylla

armor sets or weapons

[balmy bough]

Toss a dirt down and try and destroy it

[balmy bough]

Maybe

[mild nebula]

Anyone know how to tame crows in MC5?

[brittle lintel]

Yesbe

[nocturne juniper]

Pretty sure yes.

The abyssal spells are a bit wonky

And afaik there's three of them that destroy blocks and items

The black hole or wormhole spell whatever it's called, is a world destroyer. I can't remember if it's duration limited or cancellable, but I avoid usin abyssal spells altogether

[brittle lintel]

Yikes i dint know what i lost ot if i lost something

[nocturne juniper]

If you want a black hole spell that doesn’t destroy blocks or items, use the ender spell

Abyssal seems to be a mix of ender and eldritch

[brittle lintel]

i accidently teleported ignis away with this one

does he eventually come back from the abyss?

or what happens to him

took him a while but back he is haahah

[brittle lintel]

am I doing something wrong? i followed a guide and im also sneak right klicking it

look about right no?

[balmy bough]

Make sure the blocks used are the right blocks, there are a bunch of them that sound really similar. Also make sure you have one of the gold ring ones under the smithing table

[brittle lintel]

I missed a block on tight side

Right

But even after putzing that down

It didn work

I reassembled it like 4 timed

Then it randomly worked

Did the same thing all 4 times

[balmy bough]

Weird

Ey at least you figured it out. My eyes couldn’t see the missing row

[brittle lintel]

Yeah it still didnt work somehow

I read on reddit a lot of ppl ha the problem

And they also just destroyed it and rebuild it a couple times then randomly it worked

[balmy bough]

I have a gut feeling

Try unclaiming the forge area first

[brittle lintel]

I did that too😭😂😂

Does the hullbreaker reallly rarelly?

I havent found one yet im like 30mins doing circles in tha abyssle chasm

[tame basin]

my bf keeps getting this error, does anyone know why? it wont let him join

[brittle lintel]

brooo...finally

He didnt drop the item needed for the ingot…

Slayed a 2nd one

Still no

[wise garnet]

as a revenant do you receive any negative effects from not sleeping

[brittle lintel]

Idk bro

Is magnetic cave disabled? It always shows me its not in 16222 blocks of reach…?

16232*

i did nether travelinf

30k blocks distance

And still didnt pop up

[cerulean magnet]

Are other Alex's Cave biomes searched correctly?

[brittle lintel]

its the map from its mod

like you see im 70k block out

did i just found the best spawner?

0 min spawn delay wth ahhahahaah

[balmy bough]

Nah js rare

[brittle lintel]

crazy fast thoo

i also found the giant phantom one

[balmy bough]

I will say I had been led to a magnetic cage by a toxic cave map sometimes. Maybe try some of those if you’re continuously unlucky as a last resort

[balmy bough]

Forlorn

?

[brittle lintel]

the one that needs 14k ticks

[balmy bough]

Wait different thing nvm im stupid

[brittle lintel]

that spawns a skeleton

with prot X

lether armor

[balmy bough]

You followed the colosseum with the spawner that brings phantom w undead mob on it

Yes

[brittle lintel]

ohh mann.. i want the magnetic cave for the completion of the harbringer t.o armor

and he needs stuff from magnetic cave

[balmy bough]

Yes I need it too

[brittle lintel]

jup this one. i brought it down to 100/100 but it was just aight hahaha i thought they drop more than just that

[balmy bough]

The mob spawners from apotheosis (not boss) can also have chests under the that give magnetic cage spawn eggs

[brittle lintel]

you maybe know how to fill the chalice with blood? to do the ritual. i want chrimson armor

[balmy bough]

I’ve gotten teletor, boundroid, and magnetron spawn eggs from it

[brittle lintel]

wait nwm i think i got all things for it now

[brittle lintel]

ahh yeah i know which one you talk about

[balmy bough]

You could try looking around in caves and see if you get lucky

[brittle lintel]

so maybe i just go in the mines and farm those

[balmy bough]

You can def do that

[brittle lintel]

do those mobs spawn all needed stuff

[balmy bough]

Magnetron drops heart of iron in block form

The chests can also have the scarlet/azure neodymium ingots to make the mechanized catalyst thing

[brittle lintel]

ahh nicee

[balmy bough]

Yea

[brittle lintel]

and tesla bulb is also needed

[balmy bough]

Only thing you might struggle with is Tesla bulb but I think you can get it somehow

[brittle lintel]

for the powercells

[balmy bough]

Maybe as chest loot as well

[brittle lintel]

ahh

[balmy bough]

Last ditch effort could be seedmap

[brittle lintel]

can it work with modded?

i need this guy and then i need galena asweel

so galema would be the "Bottlecap" hahaah bc for that i def need the cave

im now 86k blocks out and still the same mesage that im too far away

the worst thing is that natures compass breakes when i try and use it for alex caves things

[balmy bough]

Probably but idk

[balmy bough]

They force map usage yep

You may be able to change it in config

But idk where to look

[brittle lintel]

yeah hahaha i guess it makes sense but if it doesnt work then yikes

[brittle lintel]

all good ill just tryy going even further i guess

[lean fulcrum]

Is there a way to limit which items can duplicate with the loot pinata`? I just got around 20 totems of undying and evoker spell books.... (lol)

[brittle lintel]

yeah its funny

i got 20 of flawless gems of warlord aswell

i guess just dont use loot piniata

i just did a new one in an underground cabin lets see what happens when i try it from here

still nothing

[brittle lintel]

imma start travelling also in the z direction

i just realised i was only going in X

maybe that plays a role too?

OMGGGGGGGG

finallly

bruhh why didnt i thought of this earlier...

[brittle lintel]

new friend

[brittle lintel]

how can i get the corupted soul?

[brittle lintel]

or souls at all just from farming soulsand?

like it takes 500 for the forge to get to lvl 5