medieval-mc-forge

[lilac helm]

Just remember that you can always use a Tremorzilla Egg to craft some dough :)

Alright I updated the recipe

Hope you don't have thalassophobia

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[lilac helm]

-# Be glad I'm trying to keep the modpack in a similar state or else I would've immediately cranked out Create and be abusing the Mechanical Crafters and Sequenced Recipes

[tranquil solstice]

You could probably achieve the same amount of additional effort by using the same recipe but on a Wizard's Reborn crafting table instead of Eidolon 🙃

[lilac helm]

Or 49 slot recipe with Ars Nouveau

:)

Anyways we'll see

I use modded recipes sparingly if they're not easy to learn and/or understand

And you know... There's not a lot in MMC4 to use

Create is by far the number 1 provider or recipe types

And most of the custom recipes here only have 1 or 2 slots that I can utilize

So not really much I can do about it

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah, it won't be like a Create-recipe. But you can get pretty crazy with it still. Imagine a recipe that needs an item made through Ars Nouveau, one through Hephaestus forge, one item through Better End furnace/ritual, one item through Wizard's Reborn etc. 😂

I guess you could even make a recipe through the Dragon Forge that isn't dragon steel.

[lilac helm]

If only we could make custom items that bundle other items together

[tranquil solstice]

Doesn't muon's Medieval mod add the Wayfinder Medallion? So adding items would be possible then?

[lilac helm]

I mean, if you look at basically any tech pack ever, it'll introduce you to one resource, then have you grind it out to use in making other resources, which you then use together to start getting another resource when you then grind out and it repeats forever

[lilac helm]

True if I really wanted to I could potentially utilize that

[tranquil solstice]

The thing I like about complex recipes is that it's not a boring grind but instead makes you explore parts of the modpack you would normally have little reason to invest time or resources in.

[lilac helm]

True, except that right now there is little to no reason to visit any of the modded dimensions except maybe the Aether for it's relics

[tranquil solstice]

Hmm, true. Players might go to the Twilight Forest because it's pretty and has some useful items as well, but the Undergarden for example... I dunno why you'd go there.

[lilac helm]

Imagine if the Eyes of Ender were scattered throughout all the dimensions or required resources from multiple dimensions instead of just the Overworld and Nether (and I believe you can find enough from just the Overworld alone)

Or if the major gear sets and upgrades required materials from those dimensions.

Right now, except for a couple of utility items there is no reason to visit the other dimensions except for extra content.

[tranquil solstice]

Yep. In MMC1 the eyes were quest rewards from the Twilight Forest.

That would be a lot of custom recipes though, lol.

[lilac helm]

Not nessecarily

Rouge Eye could be a Blue Skies boss drop, Nether Eye could be the Sun Spirit, etc.

[tranquil solstice]

For the eyes it would be easy. If you wanted to make dimensions useful for all major gear sets though... I mean, definitely possible, I just wouldn't expect that much work from you.

Btw, do you know the Wizard Samurai mod (Iron's addon)? You'd have lots of fun with its 25 slots crafting table, haha.

[lilac helm]

🗿

[lilac helm]

At minimum it would probably require a mod to let me customize gear attributes and strategic mob level increments, which is not really up for discussion

Now I gotta go to bed

[tranquil solstice]

Same same. Nighty!

[median sundial]

hey, where do i post problems that im having with my game crashing?

[forest wharf]

if you're playing mmc forge/neoforge, it would be here

!ca

[waxen brook]

https://files.horizon.pics/4de20432-0438-43db-864e-211a9a388ad0?a=580&mime1=video&mime2=mp4

[median sundial]

Medieval MC 4 - v36.5 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...) cursed forge
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods? no
4. v36.5 yes
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? i was playing fine the past couple days
6. What steps cause the crash? press play (in forge) then press play in launcher , if i wait too long on the main menu for minecraft it will crash, if i load into any worlds it will crash just before loading. but the first crash was during the game when i was flying over water

latest.log | hs_err_pid18260.log | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

# Problematic frame:
# V  [jvm.dll+0x58f7b0]

Found 1 log analysis results:
Jvm in: hs_err_pid18260.log

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

Mod list wasn't modified.

[forest wharf]

!openjdk

[waxen brook]

If the issue you're experiencing is clientside, and is not related to a server, then follow the "Java" section in our performance guide for how to switch to a newer, more stable version of Java.

If the issue you're experiencing is serverside, then follow the Java section of our server installation guide.

[median sundial]

is it client side sorry? im new to this

[forest wharf]

yes

[wide bronze]

yo, anyone else see the Ice and Fire II reveal?

I'm hoping that comes out in a future MMC pack

[lilac helm]

This is literally peak MMC content
Dragon Vaults, Wizards and Ballistas!

[glossy raft]

yike

[lilac helm]

And full on medieval castles too

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[lilac helm]

Speaking of Dragon Forge
I'm gonna change the Ancient Reforging Table to require a Dragon Forge now

Regular Reforging Table on one end, an Ancient Material on the other end (or just an Ancient Affix item if I want to preserve the ancient cost)

[tranquil solstice]

Ice and Fire II looks stunning! Especially the dragon caves are much more majestic.

[wide bronze]

Don't forget how the eggs are obtained now

it does make me wonder though, what's gonna happen with the cyclops eye, medusa head, hydra heart, and other special weapons

[lilac helm]

Yeah not sure how I feel about that

Cause this means now you can cheese the dragon egg

🧀

[solid blade]

Its beautiful. Praying for more sea serpents

[wide bronze]

how can you possibly cheese the dragon egg when the dragon wakes up and chases you?

[lilac helm]

elite knowledge not to be shared

[frigid spire]

Hmmmmmmm Colonies guard only deals default weapon damage? Whether I use it or give it legendary equipment, the damage doesn't change.

[still oar]

yea no offset setting. i informed the dev and they mentioned they would make it a priority next patch. In the meantime, I just used Raised mod as a workaround

[outer hollow]

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[forest wharf]

!ca

[waxen brook]

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[rain terrace]

hi, i recently decided to play MMC again, and when I booted it up, I saw that there was an update for the modpack, from v30 to v36.5

when i played on v36.5 though, i noticed the skill tree no longer contains nodes for apotheosis gems? was this an intential change or has my game bugged and defaulted to a different layout?

[lilac helm]

Intentional Change

Gem nodes were way too OP

[rain terrace]

sadge

thank you! :]

[wispy kindle]

Can someone help me out ( I was playing Prominance in hardcore idk if that makes a diffrence I killed the decayed king and I cant claim the quest reward this happend to me before but It was a while ago I turned on lan went to creative Idk how to claim it anyone know how)

I don't remember the force complete command \

[molten vigil]

!prommove

[waxen brook]

Elocin projects have moved!

Nicole/Elocin, the dev of Prominence 1/2 modpacks, YSNS mod, and much more has gone independent to her own studio for her projects. She is no longer affiliated with Luna Pixel Studios in any way.

You can find the invite link inside the CurseForge Prominence project page.

[wispy kindle]

but in the mod there is a discord link and it brings me here

[tranquil solstice]

/ftbquests editing_mode true
Then right click on the quest → "Complete Instantly"

[forest wharf]

you are extremely outdated on your pack then

go to the curseforge page itself and itll lead you to where prominence is now hosted and there they will also tell you how to properly update the pack

[wispy kindle]

you where right i was missing like 60-70 mods Thanks (:

[lilac helm]

Working on some Hephaestus Forge recipes :)

[tranquil solstice]

Nice nice :D

[lilac helm]

15000 Aureal (may change this), 800 souls, 100000 Blood, 7000 Experience

(and ofc I will extend to the other 2 types too)

[tranquil solstice]

Will you make the Reforging Table recipe available for all three types then?

[lilac helm]

Oh yeah ofc I'm doing that right now

I was considering maybe locking it to lightning but I decided to be fair

Don't need any discouraging here

[tranquil solstice]

Alright. With the normal Dragon Forge recipe I think it would've been fine to make it for one specific type only, but with 15k aureal that's a different story XD

[lilac helm]

Yeah I might drop it to 10k or even like 7500 or 8000

Ok I changed it to 8500

[tranquil solstice]

Sounds fair. I don't know if I've just not been exploring enough, but I currently only have 82 bottles in storage. 15k aureal would be 429 bottles. As far as I remember they are mainly found in vanilla dungeons and Apotheosis dungeon rooms, right?

[lilac helm]

Uh maybe yeah
You can also automate it too but it would still take a long time

[tranquil solstice]

Hm yeah, 1 Regen II bottle each. Not fun 😄

[lilac helm]

I meant these

[tranquil solstice]

Ohh, I vaguely remember reading about it.

[lilac helm]

Maybe I'll also see about a later game method of easily acquiring Aureal

There it's all in

[tranquil solstice]

Beautiful.

[lilac helm]

(Lightning Core is on the next page)

I might fiddle with the Augmenting Table again later but I need to wrap this up for today

Let me just test the dragonforge recipe rq

Better End with shaders :)

[molten vigil]

always a banger

[lilac helm]

He's doing it!

And we have our reforging table

Alright I really need to close Minecraft for the night

[frigid spire]

Colonies can't use gem dmg or +dmg things from apo ? I've uploaded a lot but they don't work at all.

[toxic plinth]

Oh yeah no ban perms here

@cerulean magnet We got two of 'em, if you can handle them

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[cerulean magnet]

Done

[toxic plinth]

Thank you.

@unkempt gate SyntheeR JUST fell asleep, and this guy popped up.

[unkempt gate]

Ty

[toxic plinth]

Gods, these people really like this particular channel, huh?

[wet spade]

What is the Luck stat for?

[toxic plinth]

In Vanilla, Luck affects the loot spawned from chests and affects... Fishing, she believes?
Otherwise it's not too useful, but it at least skews things.

[wet spade]

Thanks Momma!

[lilac helm]

Better gem and affix rolls mainly

And fishing as mentioned

[lament ledge]

Dang, i dont even know how to make a dragon breath into a forge table

i cant even find dragon in mmc4

[tough gulch]

Can someone please explain to me why I get kicked from my own singleplayer world when I try to eat a bone?

[lament ledge]

Oh - as a reverant?

I had the same problem - probably need to upload the crash log

[tough gulch]

The thing is its not a crash so its not going to have a crash log

[lament ledge]

Im not too sure what is crash or not. I just know it kicks me out to the starter menu.

[forest wharf]

a crash is literally just when your game closes

bust there would still be a latest log no matter what so id have both of you send it

!logs

[waxen brook]

To better assist with fixing your issue, we will need some logs:

• Curseforge -> Right click the modpack instance -> „Open Folder”.
• ATLauncher -> Click „Open Folder” on the modpack instance.
• MultiMC -> Select your instance and click „Instance Folder” on the right.
• PrismLauncher -> Select your instance and click „Folder” on the right.
• For servers -> Open the folder containing your server files.

To find the „latest.log” file, navigate to the 'logs' folder.
To find the „hs_err_pid.log” file, simply look for the file name after opening the instance folder.
To find a crash report, navigate to the „crash-reports” folder and find the most recent file after your crash occurred.

Once located, please upload the requested file here. If it fails, upload to https://mclo.gs/ and share the link here.

[forest wharf]

just make sure its after you reproduce getting kicked

[lament ledge]

yeah - ive already uploaded mine a couple times in the past. i just avoid that race

[lilac helm]

Yeah I noticed that a lot of people were rushing the Ancient Reforging table and then just using Ancient so I'm trying to spread it out so that it's not so dominant

It's not too bad, you just need to kill a bunch of dragons which shouldn't be a problem at that stage of the game

[lilac helm]

I think I'm gonna add an enchanting infusion recipe to convert bottles of enchanting to aureal bottles

[lament ledge]

What does that mean

nevermind - automatic replaced

[arctic elbow]

hihi! im not sure if this is the right place to ask but i noticed that medivial mc uses this cute texture pack for the animals! what is it? i cant seem to find it...

[tranquil solstice]

The texture pack is Excalibur. It includes blocks, items etc as well.

[lilac helm]

Do you have a link to that Forbidden and Arcanus guidebook mod?

[tranquil solstice]

Sure, here you go:
https://github.com/Atticool/forbidden_arcanus_guide

It's not a mod though, just drop it into the patchouli folder.

[lilac helm]

Interesting

Well it says its unlicensed so we can definitely add it

[tranquil solstice]

Very nice 👍

Oh, you gotta add a recipe for it or make it a quest reward, since there is no default way to obtain it in survival.

[lilac helm]

Not a problem

Just need a book and a cheap material or two from the mod

[tranquil solstice]

Also, I don't know if something broke in the modpack or on my end, but Twilight Oak signs are invisible. I don't mind it, it's funny to have just the text on the wall, but I doubt that it's intentional.

[lilac helm]

Twilight Woods have been bugged for quite some time

[tranquil solstice]

I see.

[lilac helm]

Well it's a resource pack issue cause it works just fine for me

[tranquil solstice]

Interesting. Yeah, I remember using the same signs in earlier versions of MMC4 (like v32 or smth) and they were fine back then.

[raw yoke]

were ancient cities messed with in mmc4

[lilac helm]

No, why?

[raw yoke]

i feel like ive been flying forever in spectator mode and cant find a single one

[lilac helm]

That's just unlucky
They usually spawn under mountains

If you're using spectator you might as well just use /locate structure ancient_city

[raw yoke]

ong didnt know that was a command tbh

[lilac helm]

So I added it into the folder but it's not popping up

[tranquil solstice]

In your main folder (among \mods etc) there is \patchouli_books
Inside you want the forbidden_arcanus_guide folder, like this:

[lilac helm]

Yeah I did that and no luck

Does it pop up in JEI for you?

[tranquil solstice]

Yep.

I searched for "Forbidden and Arcanus".

Maybe a file structure issue. What is inside your forbidden_arcanus_guide folder?

[lilac helm]

Oh yep I think I found my issue

[tranquil solstice]

Ay.

[lilac helm]

Alright relaunching my game, hopefully this time it pops up
Did you just give yourself one of those books in Creative?

[tranquil solstice]

Yes 👼

[lilac helm]

Fair
Once I can get this to load I'll add a recipe for it

[tranquil solstice]

Oki 😄

Was looking at it again now, and noticed that it's not mentioning how to upgrade the Forge though. Still much better than no guide at all, but that's some important information.

[lilac helm]

There are recipes in JEI that show you how to upgrade. Just look at uses for the Hephaestus Forge

[tranquil solstice]

Ah, perfect.

[lilac helm]

2 through 4 aren't too bad. 5 is a beast

Ofc in the actual mod there's not a use past 3 except for more storage

Alright hoping it loads this time 🤞

[tranquil solstice]

Same.

[lilac helm]

YIPPEE

[tranquil solstice]

Eyyy, congratz :D

Why it have different icon than mine?

[lilac helm]

Resource pack again probably

I don't have the Excalibur resource packs on my testing instance

[tranquil solstice]

Hmm, makes sense.

[lilac helm]

I have one instance with all the main mods I'm working with, and then occasionally hop on MMC4 for testing other minor resources or gameplay

[lament ledge]

out of all the bosses - the night lich is my least favorite

This doesnt work?

[latent bolt]

Anyone got any tips for fighting dragons?

[lament ledge]

creative mode.

[latent bolt]

[tranquil solstice]

Am I being dumb? I need 12 Enchanted Gravitite for a wandering trader trade, but when I enchant gravitite ore I instead get Gravitite Ingots. How do I get Enchanted Gravitite then?

Also, Enchanted Gravitite isn't in JEI, which is pretty disturbing.

[lilac helm]

Mod incompatibility
I believe there is one way to still get Enchanted Gravitite but it's hard

And I don't remember off the top of my head

[tranquil solstice]

:[

[lilac helm]

RIP

    "item": "aether:valkyrie_lance",
    "count": 1,
    "nbt": {
        "Enchantments": [
            {
                "lvl": 10,
                "id": "minecraft:sharpness"
            },
            {
                "lvl": 1,
                "id": "minecraft:mending"
            },
            {
                "lvl": 6,
                "id": "minecraft:looting"
            },
            {
                "lvl": 6,
                "id": "minecraft:unbreaking"
            },
            {
                "lvl": 3,
                "id": "minecraft:fire_aspect"
            }
        ],

[tranquil solstice]

Yep, wanted to get that thing.

[lilac helm]

Tbf that needs to get updated to valkyrum lance too

[tranquil solstice]

The icon is still recognized, even though it's not found in JEI either.

[lilac helm]

Yeah this is the only way to get it (enchanted gravitite)

  "input_1": {
    "item": "apotheotic_additions:apotheotic_coin",
    "count": 15
  },
  "input_2": {
    "item": "minecraft:air",
    "count": 0
  },
  "output": {
    "item": "aether:enchanted_gravitite",
    "count": 1
  },

And it's max trade of 2

[tranquil solstice]

Wow, amazing XD

[lilac helm]

So yeah you're probably never getting it
Most certainly not before I potentially fix the recipe

[tranquil solstice]

Welp!

[lament ledge]

is that at a trader?

[tranquil solstice]

I think I'm collecting weird behaviours today.

[lilac helm]

Yeah

[lament ledge]

best way to kill flying lich?

he just owns me from a distance.

mmc4

[tranquil solstice]

Range spells or bow?

[lament ledge]

tgats what ive been trying. judt ned to get better

[lilac helm]

He has regen too I think
You just might not be ready for him yet

Have fun with permanent nightime

[tranquil solstice]

Not just a visual bug either, I got now 30k blood in my forge.

[lilac helm]

🗿

Well here's one recipe

[tranquil solstice]

That's pretty helpful.

People just need to get their honey production going.

[lilac helm]

I mean at endgame 1 honey = 32 experience bottles = 64 Aureal Bottles

64 * 35 = 2240 Aureal

[tranquil solstice]

Oh. True. Are we back to 15k aureal then? 😂

[lilac helm]

Probably not, that was high

I might up to 10k

And call it good

[tranquil solstice]

Alright.

[lilac helm]

That's weird
I populated the tag with a bunch of items

Ugh I must have a wrong id somewhere in it

Yup I misspelled the mod id again

[tranquil solstice]

Oops.

[lilac helm]

Visual Studio Code is awesome though
Already fixed that issue

...

https://tenor.com/view/muerto-gif-16250174877271582365

[tranquil solstice]

😆

[lilac helm]

what now

ok I did a typo in splash

spalsh

Ok it should work now

And if not

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-gun-kermit-gun-gif-16355306064126846866

[tranquil solstice]

Adequate anger management.

[lilac helm]

This better work now

YES

There the book is finally craftable now

[tranquil solstice]

Looks good.

[lilac helm]

Also I heard that people were complaining about echo shards so I backported this from 1.21 with a minor output change

[lapis pelican]

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[lilac helm]

One goes down and another pops up 🗿

[tranquil solstice]

Can't use them echo shards without Ancient Knowledge fragments though D:

[lilac helm]

I was gonna think about adding this item in but it apparently does not work

[tranquil solstice]

Hmm, unfortunate.

[lilac helm]

It's only supposedly a 10% reduction but still

Could've been useful

[tranquil solstice]

One thing you might consider though is preventing souls from auto-leveling. I blacklisted them on my instance because they'd have so much HP that it'd take multiple minutes to harvest a single soul.

[lilac helm]

They're passive no?

[tranquil solstice]

Either they're not counted as passive or it changed since. If you want I can enable leveling again and check how much HP they have.

[lilac helm]

154/11

Is 14 I think

[tranquil solstice]

14 is good, yes.

Mine had 67 when I disabled their leveling, but that was a couple versions ago.

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[lilac helm]

Monster.createMonsterAttributes().add(Attributes.MAX_HEALTH, 14.0D).add(Attributes.FLYING_SPEED, 0.5D).add(Attributes.MOVEMENT_SPEED, 0.3D);

That's weird

So either it's an intended value of 1

Or it's being created as a monster but is meant to be a passive

Yeah I'm fine blacklisting this

Cause it's never gonna deal significant damage at any stage of the game

At worst it's a Level 1 Vindicator

[tranquil solstice]

They can deal damage?

[lilac helm]

Maybe

It seems to be labeled under monster for some reason (unless I'm dumb and that's how all entities are created)

But it has a base of 2 for some reason??

[tranquil solstice]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's coded as a "monster" because it's hostile lore-wise, even though it won't put up a fight.

[lilac helm]

Probably spawning and despawning mechanics if I had to guess

[tranquil solstice]

Possibly, yes.

Luckily all souls have the same ID, so adding "List of mobs that shouldn't be able to level up" = ["forbidden_arcanus:lost_soul"] to the autoleveling config deals with all three types.

[lilac helm]

Yeah

Like for some reason (might be covered by Medieval)

Armor Stands can get levels

[latent bolt]

hole+magic works

at least, for non t4-5

[tranquil solstice]

101 is not bad. Mine only are level 67 in the Overworld.

[lilac helm]

I don't have leveling bound on my instance

[tranquil solstice]

Ahh, okay XD

[tranquil solstice]

👀

[lilac helm]

On the other hand
Didn't think I'd stumble on a Woodland Mansion in the ocean

World Border and Far Lands are insane

It even crashed my game!

[tranquil solstice]

Oh dear XD

[lilac helm]

Like I made this joke a while back

[tranquil solstice]

Since there's no world border in the End I assume you set it manually? XD

[lilac helm]

There is
All dimensions have a world border

But I did manually change it, I'll admit that

[tranquil solstice]

I see.

[lilac helm]

You just got to travel 30 million blocks

You can use a Shattered Dimension Carver to do this quickly

[tranquil solstice]

Not that much with Alex's pickae.

Yeah.

[lilac helm]

Do be careful though for the End's natural phenomenon
Hundreds of thousands of blocks of nothing but void

[tranquil solstice]

I'm a valkyrie, I can fly (:

[lilac helm]

Be careful for Farseers too
Those things will decimate you if you're not careful

[tranquil solstice]

Only met 1 of those so far, they seem to be very rare even at the border.

[lilac helm]

Mostly cause they're invisible until you approch them
Try using Aurora Glowing or Planar Sight

[tranquil solstice]

Ohh, interesting.

My go-to radar item is the spectral eye amulet btw.

[lilac helm]

I mean it's pretty easy to get super high power on spells

And when you don't need many spells to master your arts (heartstop ), you can afford to spend it on some utility spells like Planar Sight

Especially if we might potentially be getting significant spell buff affixes soon

(also augmenting table hates me here ^)

Anyways
Since I've gotten like 10 crashes exploring everything new today

Probably a good time to wrap things up for the day

[slim ore]

Hi, since about an hour I keep finding these hovering blocks all over the place.

This is what it shows me when hovering over it:

Can someone help my understand what causes this?

[buoyant portal]

So I've searched. I'm not sure where to ask, but is the best way to disable the Survive mod the configs? I tried disabling the whole mod via Curseforge but it crashed.

[cedar coyote]

Hi could anyone recommend optimization mods to add into a server for this modpack

my server seems to lag a lot especially when generating new terrain , usually resulting in crashes

[lament ledge]

How do i load arrows in this quiver

[wet spade]

Anyone got a List of op/cool/funny/troll/useful items to get im starting a server today with friends

[glacial storm]

Hi! can anyone tell me from what are the odds of getting esoteric items? And where i can get them? Thanks!

[wet spade]

Hover with the arrows over your Quiver in inventory and press rightclick

[lament ledge]

yeah - that doesnt work.

it just equip or unequips it

[grand quartz]

??

[tranquil solstice]

Simply equip the quiver and pick up arrows from the floor. It will show the number of arrows on the left side of your hotbar.

[tranquil solstice]

If you want to disable Survive you'll have to disable each module individually in the \config\Survive Configs folder.

[tranquil solstice]

Esoteric items are currently only dropped by lvl 180 bosses, which can only be summoned after you maxed out your skill tree (150 points). The chance for them to drop an Esoteric item is 0.3% + 0.1% per level of Looting (which can be improved with the affix "Additional Loot Rolls").

[glacial storm]

Bosses like maledictus, ignis or bosses from apotheosis?

[tranquil solstice]

The modpack already includes a bunch of optimization mods. How much RAM does your server have for how many players?

[tranquil solstice]

There's only three of them: Maledictus, Ignis and the Ender Guardian.

[cedar coyote]

6 gb ram, and it started lagging with 4 players, does the max player count matter?

[glacial storm]

Okay! Thanks alot 🙂

Ure the best

[tranquil solstice]

The rule of thumb is 4 GB of RAM for 1 player and 1 GB of additional RAM for every additional player. If you host it on your own PC just make sure you have enough total RAM left for client and background processes.

[cedar coyote]

im doing external server hosting so I cant change the ram, is there wa way to accomadate 4 players without it lagging? it seemed to lag with 3 as well

[tranquil solstice]

Hmm, if you can't change the amount of RAM then the only things you could do is things like lowering the server's render distance (the shorter the render distance the less chunks are loaded simultaneously) or just make sure that players are not exploring in different directions at the same time.

[cedar coyote]

sorry just saw this, howw would I change the simulation distance from 10 -> 5?6? would that help? or is it the view distance

[tranquil solstice]

The view distance is what is affecting RAM the most, so you can lower that in the server.properties file from 10 to 5 or so. The simulation distance is less RAM-intensive, but it wouldn't hurt to lower it from 10 to 8 maybe (also in the server.properties).

[cedar coyote]

okay thank you so much for your help!

[tranquil solstice]

Np. Hope it helps!

[cedar coyote]

Medieval MC 5 - v26 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.21.1 [NEOFORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
4. v26
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | debug.log head / tail (~44k lines) | crash-2025-10-08_09.42.17-client.txt | PrismLauncher-0.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

Removed mods:
additionalentityattributes-neoforge-2.0.0+1.21.1.jar

[tranquil solstice]

Traveler's Backpacks fixed that crash in the meantime. You can download the new version of the mod [here](#medieval-mc-forge message) and replace it in the \mods folder both on the server and the client(s).

[cedar coyote]

okay thank you

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[lament ledge]

wow - that is not very clear. thank you for clearing that up

What do you find the best arrow is to use?

[tranquil solstice]

I must admit I haven't tested that many arrows, I have vanilla arrows in my quiver. Since I hardly ever use my bow and rely on a range spell instead.

[lilac helm]

Dragonbone 💯

Those arrows are OP

[tranquil solstice]

How do you even get arrows OUT of this quiver...?

[lament ledge]

yeah - that is my second question! 🙂

[tranquil solstice]

I couldn't... I crafted a new one 😂

[lament ledge]

oh boy

[tranquil solstice]

Dragonbone arrows seem to be about 50% better than vanilla arrows (2200 vanilla vs 3400 dragonbone).

[lament ledge]

''``Quiver

All of these quivers go in the Quiver Slot, and hold up to 250 Arrows. The arrows can be added in a crafting table, and will show as durability on the item. This is not actual durability, as these items cannot break, merely run out of arrows.

Quiver - No effect
Fiery Quiver - +5% Damage if target is burning
Armored Quiver - +2 Armor
Gilded Quiver - +5% Speed
Toxic Quiver - +5% Damage if target is affected by poison
Diamond Quiver - +5% Crit Chance
Healing Quiver - +5% Incoming healing
Silent Quiver - +5 Stealth
Bone Quiver - +5% Chance to get +200% mob loot``''

[lilac helm]

Must be affixing stuff

Cause normally they're like ×3-4 better

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah, probably affixes then. If 2k damage gets added to both, the difference gets lost.

[lilac helm]

@SubscribeEvent
  public static void takeArrowFromQuiver(LivingGetProjectileEvent event) {
    Optional<SlotResult> quiverCurio =
        CuriosApi.getCuriosHelper().findFirstCurio(event.getEntity(), ItemHelper::isQuiver);
    quiverCurio
        .map(SlotResult::stack)
        .ifPresent(
            quiver -> {
              if (containsArrows(quiver)) event.setProjectileItemStack(getArrows(quiver).copy());
            });
  }

Yeah it looks like you literally can't remove them

[tranquil solstice]

Well, you could use a bow without infinity until the quiver is empty. But that's not quite optimal.

[lament ledge]

Obsidian arrows seem to do more damage than dragon arrows

hmm. ill have to find a boss to test it on

[tranquil solstice]

Really? I just tested them and they did around 2k for me - even less than vanilla for some reason. Maybe affixes and stuff have some weird effects.

[lament ledge]

honestly, no ttoo sure i have the most legit testing. i just draw back full with my bow and shoot the dummy

[tranquil solstice]

Same tho. Just need at least 10 shots for a good result though because the damage fluctuates.

[lament ledge]

i am playing as elf race because it gives benefit to ranged weapons...but the valkrei with wings is pretty OP

One thing i dont like about the celestial bow is that it causes a rebound effect

[knotty pollen]

How do I repair the armor? Silver ingots AND Silver scales from a dragon doesnt work o-o

[lament ledge]

if you press U you can see what it says under the anvil menu

i usually just put mending and then not worry about it

[lilac helm]

mending

https://tenor.com/view/vernias-vern-nation-gif-13110018023359186183

[lament ledge]

what race are you playing as?

[tranquil solstice]

Valkyrie 😁

[lament ledge]

yeah - io think that is my favoreite race so far

the mobility is great

how do you get around the speed decrease with undead mobs?

[knotty pollen]

Just enchantment books - And It never showed the rapir material or am i dumb?

[tranquil solstice]

Early game it is a bit cumbersome, but as soon as you get some speed affixes/gems you can deal with it fairly well. And the more undead mobs you kill without dying the less of an effect they have on you (until there is no speed debuff anymore at 500 kills).

[lilac helm]

Alright time to change some more recipes

Added Aether Redux to my instance

Time to put it to good use

[tranquil solstice]

Oh you wanna make enchanted gravitite available? That's nice, thanks.

[lilac helm]

... Or I crash without crashing

[tranquil solstice]

😞

[lilac helm]

There I changed position with NBTExplorer

Hopefully that will stop the world border glitches

[lilac helm]

Or unify gravitite ingots together

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[tranquil solstice]

Fair.

[lilac helm]

There that seemed to fix things

[lilac helm]

(Shelves are still any infused shelf)

[outer hollow]

@summer ruin requested deletion of this link.

[outer hollow]

Uploaded crash-2025-10-09_14.02.24-client.txt from @summer ruin to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/Jt8Jprc

[forest wharf]

!ca

[waxen brook]

https://files.horizon.pics/4de20432-0438-43db-864e-211a9a388ad0?a=580&mime1=video&mime2=mp4

[summer ruin]

Ah ok thank you zeppelin

[summer ruin]

1. What Minecraft version are you using? Neoforge 1.21.1
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? ATLauncher
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way? Updated the modpack yesterday to v26, but the game worked fine after the update. Then today its decided to be weird.
4. What version of the modpack are you using? v26
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? Always goes back to main menu screen
6. What steps cause the crash? I literally don't do anything and it just randomly saves the game and goes back to main menu.

[outer hollow]

Uploaded latest.log from @summer ruin to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/rrPA9Jm

[spare lotus]

where do you get esoteric drops from ?

[cedar coyote]

Medieval MC 5 - v26 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.21.1 [NEOFORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...) prism launcher
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods? no
4. v26
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash? launching the instance

latest.log | debug.log head / tail (~40k lines) | PrismLauncher-0.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

Removed mods:
additionalentityattributes-neoforge-2.0.0+1.21.1.jar

Updated mods:
travelersbackpack (10.1.23 > 10.1.24)

[lean dagger]

you updated travelers backpack

dont do that

[cedar coyote]

i was told to

[cedar coyote]

^^

[lean dagger]

idk then, ur log has 0 info

[cedar coyote]

then is there a fix to this bug where I cant interact with any blocks or backpacks, only hit mobs

[tranquil solstice]

Is that a permanent issue or does it come and go?

[tranquil solstice]

#medieval-mc-forge message

[tranquil solstice]

I've seen that crash a couple of times before, so far no comment from the devs. The course of action has been to remove the mod Neruina (until you crash again). If it becomes too annoying, remove Neruina and we'll see where to go from there.

[cedar coyote]

comes and goes

[tranquil solstice]

Hmm, that's weird. If it happens again, try the command /carryon clear, maybe something got stuck there.

[cedar coyote]

it seems i dont have the perms to do it even as a server op? I may have done something incorrect, do i type it in the server console?

[tranquil solstice]

Either that or type /op Ninjona in console. Assuming that MMC5 even has the mod Carry On.

[cedar coyote]

already an op

[tranquil solstice]

Does it say that you don't have perms or that the command is unknown?

[cedar coyote]

unknown command

[tranquil solstice]

Welp, then MMC5 probably doesn't have it. No idea what else could be causing that though, sorry.

[cedar coyote]

no problem, thank you for trying anyways

it seems to only affect me and not the other players though if that narrows it down

[cedar coyote]

would it be due to this?

[tranquil solstice]

That's interesting for sure. Anything specific you were doing when it happened? And how often does it happen?

The logs there don't contain any major error, as far as I can see.

[cedar coyote]

pretty often, it happened most recently after i casted a channeled spell

and then i used emi but i dont know if that was part of it

[tranquil solstice]

Do you need to relog to fix it or does it go away by itself?

[cedar coyote]

relog doesnt fix it

it goes away on its own adn comes back seemingly randomly

[tranquil solstice]

That seems super weird 🤨

Do you have any status effects during that time?

[cedar coyote]

i have night vision from bat backpack

[tranquil solstice]

Also, is it always about the same duration or sometimes short, sometimes long?

[cedar coyote]

usually long i dont think its ever been short

usually about 30 min or more

[tranquil solstice]

Okay that's long. Is it the case right now?

[cedar coyote]

yes

[tranquil solstice]

Is there an outline around blocks you look at or is it like spectator mode?

[cedar coyote]

there is an outline and animation of me moving to break blocks but it doesnt produce the effect

[tranquil solstice]

Can you open chests or open doors?

[cedar coyote]

no and i can only use inventory things like eat food or open hotbar backpacks if im looking at the sky aka not highlighting anyth

[tranquil solstice]

XD

Never heard of thatttt.

Lemme check if MMC5 has Jade or smth.

[cedar coyote]

okay thank you so mcuh

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah there is Jade. It's the mod that tells you what block you are looking at. This is a random guess, but you could try it without that mod and see if it's any different.

[cedar coyote]

okay ill try it now

i just move the jar files out of both server and client yes?

[tranquil solstice]

I'm fairly certain it's only client-side.

[cedar coyote]

okok

i thought it wouldnt work if the mods arent the same on both sides

[tranquil solstice]

That's true for most mods, but some (like Optifine for example) only change how things are displayed on the client. Those don't need to be on the server.

[cedar coyote]

i see i see

[tranquil solstice]

Ah, the modpage says some features require it to be on the server (to send the information to the client). Should still let you connect without it though.

[cedar coyote]

oh it worked

[tranquil solstice]

Did it fix the issue?

[cedar coyote]

yes until I casted a spell

it seems its the spell cast

[tranquil solstice]

What spell are you casting?

[cedar coyote]

first time it was earthquake

now its fire arrow

i think its any spell with channel time

[tranquil solstice]

Hmm, interesting. Can the other players on your server cast those spells?

[cedar coyote]

havent tried

[tranquil solstice]

Please do sometime.

[cedar coyote]

someone casted a channel spell althouguh not those 2

and it didnt affect them

[tranquil solstice]

When they're online again make them cast Earthquake.

[cedar coyote]

okok will do

[tranquil solstice]

Usually I'd say differences in behaviour between players are due to the race, but iirc there are no races in MMC5. So that'd be quite strange.

[tepid quartz]

Hey there, friends. I've been trying to play MMC4 with a friend but after playing for half an hour, I seem to always crash with this same error.
Internal Exception: io.netty.handler.codec.DecoderException: java.util.zip.DataFormatException: Uncompressed size is inaccurate
I've tried Prism Launcher, Curseforge, and ATLauncher. But they all end in the same error message. Any help is appreciated.

[royal herald]

where do i bugreport this

[fluid sage]

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[molten vigil]

here. what modpack version?

[knotty pollen]

Is there any other block that can display weapons better? :3

[still oar]

is there a leave culling mod already present in mmc4?

[knotty pollen]

What mods add the new music and the new footsteps to the game? While I like the music, I want to change them both back to the normal Minecraft sounds. 🙂

[tranquil solstice]

The music is zmedievalmusic and the footsteps are PresenceFootsteps.

[tranquil solstice]

MMC4 v36.5, see also [here](#medieval-mc-forge message).

[knotty pollen]

Thank you 🙂

[molten vigil]

thanks, I definitely remember redrawing this one awhile ago but must have never backported it to MMC4

#announcements message yeah

will fix both soon

do you have any others?

[tranquil solstice]

Those two are the only ones I can think of. Thanks for the upcoming fix!

[tranquil solstice]

There is actually one broken GUI, though not mis-aligned like the others. Both in MMC4 and MMC5, the furnace upgrade in backpacks is more or less invisible. I don't know if you want or can do anything about it: #medieval-mc-forge message

[molten vigil]

oh yup, that one’s on me too

thanks

[tranquil solstice]

Just launched the pack to double check, and there's another GUI from Wizard's Reborn that is misaligned that I didn't think of, namely the furnace. The Arcane Workbench is fine though.

[tepid quartz]

Hi again friends~.
Still dealing with the following error, if anybody could maybe lend an assist;

Internal Exception: io.netty.handler.codec.DecoderException: java.util.zip.DataFormatException: Uncompressed size is inaccurate

I've tried Prism Launcher, Curseforge, and ATLauncher. But they all end in the same error message. Any help is appreciated. I also opened all my firewall and virus settings, nothing.

[tranquil solstice]

Maybe the latest.log would help. From the server if you play on one, otherwise from the client.
Or better just do what Hazel said ↓

[forest wharf]

!ca

[waxen brook]

https://files.horizon.pics/4de20432-0438-43db-864e-211a9a388ad0?a=580&mime1=video&mime2=mp4

[spare lotus]

Has anyone reported on the enhancement at ancient tier that looks like a string of code?

[lilac helm]

Intended

It translates to "Manifestation of Infinity" in case you're curious

[tranquil solstice]

It sounds like he is referring to some broken affix. I could be wrong though.

[lilac helm]

He's refering to this

[tranquil solstice]

Maybe I have a different idea of what a string of code looks like then XD

[lilac helm]

Well

Maybe you're right

[tranquil solstice]

I thought of something like this:

[lilac helm]

Could I see an image of what you're talking about?

[lilac helm]

Yeah same once you brought it up

Now we just have to wait for a response

[tranquil solstice]

That's the most fun part 😴

[spare lotus]

Yes of course. I believe this looks accurate. As long as it was mentioned, then that’s good

[lilac helm]

Ok fair
What does is say so that we can fix it?

[spare lotus]

I’ll have to log in and check! And hope I can get a weapon with it on it. I think it’s on axes maybe..

[lilac helm]

Axe affixes

Hmmmmm

So a heavy weapon

Either a replacement got wrong pathing or one of our few custom affixes didn't get translated is my guess

(affixes are what you meant by enhancements I believe)

[tranquil solstice]

I am unable to reproduce it, maybe it's an old axe whose affix was changed/removed in v36?

[lilac helm]

A removed affix shouldn't have been untranslated

Just because I removed the affix from the list of affixes does not mean that I removed its translation key

[tranquil solstice]

Hm, fair.

[lilac helm]

And an affix that was changed would just have its values updated to the new one (or removed if it doesn't fit the loot category anymore)

Thing is I don't think there is a single attribute affix whos minimum starting rarity is Ancient

Mythic is the lowest I believe

[tranquil solstice]

Aight. Let's wait if Duke can dig one up later.

[lilac helm]

I'll hop on MMC4 and see if I can't find it

[tranquil solstice]

We've had people confuse Ancient with Artifact before, I wonder if that's also the case here.

Cuz this would definitely fit the description.

[lilac helm]

Definitely

[tranquil solstice]

Also the cleaving one.

[lilac helm]

All of the special effect affixes for Artifact+ are messed up (except for Enlightened)

[tranquil solstice]

Good to know.

[lilac helm]

They are all functional, just untranslated

I've rolled Ancient like 150 times and no errors

So it's likely an Artifact misidentification

[tranquil solstice]

Agreed.

[lilac helm]

Anything else for me to do while I'm on MMC4?

[tranquil solstice]

Errrr. Perhaps you can think of any mis-aligned GUIs? I tried to check as many as I saw around my base, but I'm not sure I got all of them.

[lilac helm]

Well this one isn't bugged but it isn't supported

[tranquil solstice]

Is that the guy in your hotbar? For me it looks like this:

[lilac helm]

Hmmm

Guess my resources pack setup is a little off

[tranquil solstice]

Rip.

What is off about it though that it doesn't have a name for me:

[lilac helm]

Another one

[knotty pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[lilac helm]

Mine has it
F3 + T?

[tranquil solstice]

Didn't change anything :/

[lilac helm]

Rip

[tranquil solstice]

Combiner and Angling Table confirmed though, they are not supported.

Hey could you check real quick if Twilight Oak signs are invis for you on MMC4? Then I know whether it's on my end or not.

[tranquil solstice]

Oki, thankies 😄

Interesting. All Wizard's Reborn GUIs support the medieval inventory design except the Arcane Hopper.

[lilac helm]

Too bad it seems that I can't add custom recipes to just the Nuclear Furnace :(

[tranquil solstice]

We have a nuclear furnace? I didn't even know. How medieval.

Ohh, from Alex. Right.

[lilac helm]

Yeah I think it just extends any blasting recipe

Which is not ideal if you're trying to make something Nuclear Furnace only

[tranquil solstice]

That's unfortunate :/

[lilac helm]

Yeah
I want to utilize unique Alex's Caves mechanics >:|

Only one I don't think I've used it is candy

[tranquil solstice]

I still haven't found the Primordial one. Although I explored so much that my world save is 12 GB.

[lilac helm]

Also btw
Life has been confirmed on Mars

[tranquil solstice]

It's beautiful.

[knotty pollen]

I love Alex Caves - This is something I still need to find and build a abase there. :3

[lilac helm]

Primordial Caves are amazing

[royal herald]

latest one I think

[visual lantern]

im trying to play my world on mmc1 and it was working earlier today but now every time i try to load it it gets stuck on loading terrain and keeps giving me this - [21:12:44] [Render thread/INFO]:OpenGL debug message: id=1014, source=API, type=ERROR, severity=HIGH, message='No detailed debug message due to a non-debug context' -

[tranquil solstice]

Please drop the entire latest.log in here.

[visual lantern]

it wont let me drop the file

[tranquil solstice]

Then upload it to https://mclo.gs/

[visual lantern]

its telling me to remove the mod professions and proffessions integrations

will this mess up the game play

[tranquil solstice]

Who or what is telling you that? Removing those mods would mess up some villagers.

[visual lantern]

when i uploaded the log it said that was the solution

[tranquil solstice]

Interesting. Do you have the link to the log?

[visual lantern]

https://mclo.gs/ITL57Yy

[tranquil solstice]

Oh it's Fabric?

[visual lantern]

yes

[tranquil solstice]

I mean, I can look at it, but you'd be better off in #medieval-mc-fabric

[visual lantern]

oh sorry man i didnt even realise there was a seperate channel

[tranquil solstice]

Np. At least you already got the log uploaded, so you can just send the link there with the description of your issue :)

[lilac helm]

There
So I made some significant reductions to Cooldown Reduction and generic Spell Resistance cause they were really dominating

[tender hemlock]

Hey all, I keep getting crashes when the Ender Dragon spawns in (this file) or entering the Twilight Forest. It hasn't happened for any other boss or dimension I have been to (Aether + Nether so far). I had this issue on v36 and just updated to 36.5 and still am having it.

[outer hollow]

Uploaded crash-2025-10-09_21.44.53-server.txt from @tender hemlock to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/HP7ofit

[lilac helm]

Spell Resistance is really for the upcoming Nightwarden fight more than anything (and a combination of regular and Ender will still give a bunch of resistance when combined with everything else)

Cooldown though really needed to come down but there still enough sources that I can't change that there's plenty of cooldown still
You might just have to allocate more of your build towards it

[tranquil solstice]

Sounds like I'll have to unequip my -50% Ender spell resistance augment LOL

[lilac helm]

Yeah that'll hurt a lot

Hopefully once we eventually get the adaptable affixes in I can add varying spell resistances based on the general school type

But yeah I reduced the orbs from +5% to 1.25%
I changed the gems from ×1.15 to +5% and unique
Significantly nerfed the spell resistance affix (which again once we get the above I'll remove entirely) but allowed it to go up to Esoteric (still barely a gain though)

Removed the armor cooldown affix (no more free +120%) and moved it to spell books where you can get +20% with Esoteric

But you still have +10-20% from various spellbooks, +15% from staffs (and those will eventually get cooldown reduction too) and 2 rings of +15% each

We do the math

(gimme a second)

[tranquil solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/bookio-gif-13932157847762104386

[lilac helm]

~78.7% cooldown reduction

[tranquil solstice]

Tbh I don't even know how much I have. Gotta check tomorrow to see how much of an impact that would have.

[lilac helm]

That doesn't include the skills where you get cooldown based on various spell powers

But that shouldn't have too much of an effect

[tranquil solstice]

There's so many good rings though, I wonder how many people use 2 cd reduction rings.

[lilac helm]

Yeah that's a real decision now

Drops to ~71.4% without them

[tranquil solstice]

Kinda does have an impact, yeah.

Sadly I need to get up early tomorrow, so I'm already on my way to bed 😂

[lilac helm]

Oof

I'll go over it and see where to go from there

Cause I want there to be some thought behind the process other than "stock up on as much spell power and cooldown reduction as you can and then spam spells"

Tbf mana is a mess too, cause it's way too easy to go from little <-> no extra to very much/doesn't matter

[tender magnet]

hey does anyone know how to us the relics ability's? I'm trying to use the elytra booster but can find the key bind for it. i have coal in it just cant find the relics key in the key binds

[wide bronze]

elytra booster? plebian level when the fire dash spell exists, and the water jet booster spell exists

(the water one is hilariously fast)

[lilac helm]

Speed 1000 go brrrr

[tender magnet]

ive been trying to find litterly ANY of the alex caves but havent been able to get the pearl to make it

i also havent been able to find the spell itself

ive made the maps to find them and when i finnaly go to the location for them there just isnt a cave there

[cedar coyote]

the bug only happens to me i tested it with others

[charred horizon]

Was a way to filter apotheosis gems/affixed weapons ever added? In this case to send gems from a mob farm to one chest and weapons/armor to another, or even better to filter by rarity

[wide bronze]

pretty sure that'd just be a horrible mess of NBT data filtering

which I don't think any mods atm can even handle such NBT data 'properly'

[charred horizon]

fair, oh well guess i'll just salvage everything

[zinc stratus]

how do i play with friends in this mc

[wide bronze]

!server

[waxen brook]

Free Method

To host a server on your own computer, read the selfhosting guide.
This guide goes over how to install, create, and launch a free Minecraft server on all operating systems (MacOS, Linux and Windows). The guide also guides you through installing Java and optimizing your server for better performance.

If you are installing one of our older modpacks, ignore the "README" file that is included in the serverpack files, as they have outdated information.

Paid Method

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go here and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

The following advice works for both the Free and Paid methods:

Transferring Your World

If you're playing Singleplayer and want to transfer your world to your server, simply go to your modpack files and navigate to the saves folder. Inside of this folder, you will see your world saves. Rename your desired world save to world. You can then transfer this folder to your server files. If your world was hosted via world sharing, this process has to be done by the person who would click "Share World".

Fixing Lag

To resolve lag issues, simply run the !tps command in #bots and follow the directions provided.

[zinc stratus]

thanks

[wide bronze]

there's also the world sharign feature, but it's very likely to cause world issues to the point the world breaks/corrupts until it's completely unplayable

[zinc stratus]

noted

[thick frigate]

Why on earth am I not able to cut logs with an axe?

[wide bronze]

elaborate

[cedar coyote]

does anyone have a fix for perma siren red screen even after the siren was killed? relog, server reset, death and killing another siren doesnt work

[modern sorrel]

is essential mod not supported

[wide bronze]

essential mod is not supported no, and never will be

[forest wharf]

!ea

[waxen brook]

The Essential mod is completely incompatible with all of our modpacks, and there's no reason to use it. All of our modpacks already come with built-in, free world hosting, by clicking the "Share World' button in the Open to LAN menu. You can learn more by typing !ws in the ⁠#bots channel. You can also run type !server in the same channel to learn how to properly host a server for better performance and more flexibility. In modpacks that aren't owned by us, you can use mods such as e4mc or WorldHost to host a server completely for free without Essential's many issues and crashes and the microtransactions that they constantly bother users with. To learn more about alternatives to the Essential mod, check out this website.

[hallow trail]

Hello ! Did someone have a good seed for a map with this modpack ? To have a great place to put a base ?

[quick crane]

(4)

[cloud finch]

what servers

[lean dagger]

?

[spare lotus]

is there a reason why max rectification still gives curse on every enchant- ?

[lilac helm]

What curses? Life Mending or regular ones like Curse of Vanishing?

[tepid quartz]

Have you tried drinking milk to see if that maybe fixes it? >.>
That's the only thing I can think.

[cedar coyote]

Yup no fix

[spare lotus]

vanishing and binding

it says 0% chance for negative effects

[lilac helm]

Rectification only affects Quanta

You will need a Seashelf of Aquatic Flitration to remove Curse enchantments (or remove your Treasure Shelf from your enchanting setup)

Quanta is only an Eterna modifier that affect the level of enchantments that you can get

[spare lotus]

hmm. i must have been watching an older video! dude wasnt getting curses but if that was a thing on an older patch then i understand

[lilac helm]

Almost all curses are treasure enchantments

[spare lotus]

oh my

okay cool

[lilac helm]

This is the Chronicle of Shadows btw if you want a closer look at the mechanics behind Apotheosis

[thick frigate]

When I have an axe and I chop a log the log just shrinks. If its the log of a house or structure and it isnt vertical orientation it never breaks and it causes logs around it to act silly.

[spare lotus]

ill look into it, thanks!

removing the treasure bookshelf helped, didnt even realize i had that

[lilac helm]

You can sneak while breaking to cut a single block of wood

[thick frigate]

I coulda sworn I tried that but I will try again. Is there a wiki with all the mechanics explained so I dont have to pester you guys for such sillies?

Also, which mod is responsible for that? I would like to reverse it to make holding shift break the chain of wood and not holding shift be default minecraft behavior.

[lilac helm]

HT's Tree Chop (config id is just treechop)

[thick frigate]

It seems the mod manager in game doesnt give any options for mods and the button to open configs is inactive. No big deal because I can edit the files, but not sure if this was intended.

Also, on shutdown I always get this and I have to ctrl+c

[molten vigil]

yeah that just means they didn’t add a config screen for it, so editing the file is what you have to do

[molten vigil]

you could use https://modrinth.com/mod/server_heater/

[thick frigate]

I will give that a shot, thank you!

@molten vigil Still getting the same

[molten vigil]

did you configure server heater? I haven’t looked at it much but it looks like it requires configuration

[thick frigate]

I did, but maybe I missed something. I'll go through it again later today and see what could be wrong.

[quick crane]

What da heck is happening

[forest wharf]

your install is quite messed up

!alternates

[waxen brook]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.

To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.

[quick crane]

I mean, I suppose that happens when you delete Better Combat? Though I swear I remember deleting it before and nothing similar to that happened ever before. Eh.

[lilac helm]

Well first it shouldn't cause a mess up that badly, and secondly it should have just flat out refused to load since there are mods that use it as a required dependency

[molten vigil]

It could be either Apothic Combat or Medieval that require it without explicitly throwing a dependency error

might cause a bugged mod construct like that

[still oar]

has anyone gotten the ignored.json file to work in loot integrations? Im trying to remove certain items from the vanilla loot table and they still continue to spawn

[tranquil solstice]

To fix the pink Siren overlay you can press Esc → Mods → search for "Iceandfire" → open the config and disable the Siren shaders.
Also, since you're the only player who experiences the weird bug of not being able to break blocks, I'd consider doing a fresh install on your client. You can move map, keybinds and everything to the new instance afterwards.

[cedar coyote]

The siren bug isnt me and i tried making a new instance which also didnt work

[cedar coyote]

Thanks so much for the siren fix

Ill tell him to try it later

[lilac helm]

We legit need to make an FAQ

[tranquil solstice]

Yes, but also no. Cuz the bug should be fixed in the latest mod version (just like the Traveler's Backpacks crash), so we just wait for the next MMC5 update 😄

[lilac helm]

Making some more progress

[tranquil solstice]

Looks like Roguelike Dungeons. What's it gonna be?

[lilac helm]

Someone recognized :)

Planning to overhaul it for an Otherside Dungeon

[tranquil solstice]

Ohh. So you want the bosses to not spawn randomly but in dungeons?

[lilac helm]

No no, they'll still spawn randomly (probably), I'm just working on some additional content for the Otherside cause its completely empty right now

Well, mostly

[tranquil solstice]

Oh, wowie. Sounds promising :o

[lilac helm]

Gonna be a lot
Cause I have to redo the entire palette (that's gonna be a lot of the work), completely overhaul the loot tables AND the mobs, get affixed gear on them (a whole ton of NBT, and probably add Curse of Vanishing or see if I can't set drop chance to 0) and then polish up

This was before I changed a property in the config 🗿

[tranquil solstice]

Oh dear. What a skeleton of a dungeon.

[lilac helm]

Yeah, I had to enable this

# When enabled, the dungeons will ignore caves instead of trying to adjust to them (by not generating specific blocks).
#
solid = true

Now the shape is a lot better

[tranquil solstice]

Ah, interesting option.

[lilac helm]

Also the towers that start the dungeon like to just shoot straight up to bedrock too so

Not a big issue though

[tranquil solstice]

I suppose most players are just gonna dig into it anyway when they see it floating around.

[lilac helm]

Yeah that's intended

Not like I'm lining this with obsidian
Even though that's nothing in the endgame

[tranquil solstice]

The dimension is a mess anyway when it comes to heights and caves.

[lilac helm]

Yeah it's way too common to just spawn right in stone

The big caves aren't even connected

I'm no expert on noise generation though

Unfortunately the big thing is that Deeper and Darker's palate of blocks isn't incredibly good either

I have Cobblestone and Stone Bricks just fine, as well as Oak but there are no cracked and mossy sculk bricks so I have Cut and Tiles for cracked and smooth for mossy

Andesite and Granite are both Polished Sculk and Smooth Stone is Polished Gloom Stone for contrast

Gravel is Sculk Grime

And then I'm planning to redo the Nether section with a Toxic Caves palate

If lava isn't going to do a thing, I'll just have acid eat up your armor

-# Ofc Eternal Stella exist but there's just not much I can do at this stage to fight against the player's power

[tranquil solstice]

Ohh, that sounds fun.

Nuclear bomb traps?

[lilac helm]

Probably Nucleepers
Although I might add a Nuclear Bomb as a rare treat in the loot tables (if muon is ok with that)

[tranquil solstice]

I see.

[lilac helm]

I don't think it's fair to just have the entire dungeon go boom because you weren't looking out for a trap
Nucleepers is the friendly approach to where the unsuspecting player has time to react and prevent the explosion

[tranquil solstice]

Fair enough. Tbh, I've never actually seen a nuke go off, so I have no idea how much damage or destruction it is.

[lilac helm]

https://tenor.com/view/hikaru-hikaru-naka-hands-oh-yes-baby-rubbing-hands-gif-25390470

[tranquil solstice]

XD

[lilac helm]

So I have a Nuclear Bomb on this mountain

[tranquil solstice]

👀

[lilac helm]

I'm like 60 blocks away and still got Irritated 3 for 40 minutes

[tranquil solstice]

That's pretty decent.

[lilac helm]

And it supposedly deals thousands of damage

Probably why its disabled

[tranquil solstice]

Awww.

By disabled you mean the recipe? Or won't it explode in MMC4?

[lilac helm]

The recipe

It should still work

[tranquil solstice]

Ah, oki. Cuz I got one of them in my vault - purchased for a lot of money from a wandering trader.

[lilac helm]

You can also cause one by overheating a nuclear furnace

[tranquil solstice]

Note to self: Don't put nuclear furnace in base.

[lilac helm]

It's fine as long as you safetly contain the waste with metal barrels

You have to go through like 8 Uranium Rods or something to cause it to explode

[tranquil solstice]

Hmm, alright.

[lilac helm]

And each one smelts 60 items (given they each take 1 second to smelt)

[tranquil solstice]

That's fast o.O For all blast furnace recipes?

[lilac helm]

Not quite all
Some takes 2, one takes 5

[tranquil solstice]

Ah, okay.

[lilac helm]

So yeah it's worth
Just make sure that you properly dispose of the waste (chuck in into the void)

[tranquil solstice]

What happens when I store the waste in my basement?

[lilac helm]

Well you could, it'll just take up space

And don't think about using fire, lava or cactus to get rid of it

That will leave you with a nasty surprise

:|

[tranquil solstice]

What a fun mod :D

[lilac helm]

It says in the cave guidebook

Just like the real world
Great temporary results, permanent damage

Alex's Caves my goat

[thick frigate]

Regarding these stuck threads, I got rid of the spark ones by disabling the spark background profiler. But I still get a pool-xx-thread-1 stuck thread every time I shut down.

It seems despite being configured, server warmer is unable to help

[lilac helm]

Pov: a single endermite spawns

[molten vigil]

I think the other stuck thread is caused by Foolproof, and has been fixed in a recent update

[orchid horizon]

is there a way to make chunk generation faster ? whenever i attempt to play the modpack it takes at least 30 minutes before i can even move my mouse at a consistent speed, framerate also dies considerably whenever i have to load new chunks, attempting to move and generate new chunks practically brings the game to a halt, making exploring or simply playing the pack pretty tedious

[still oar]

try pregenning with chunky

[still oar]

bump

[thick frigate]

Just came here to say this! I updated foolproof to the latest version for 1.21.1 and it's fixed. Now I'm going through the startup portion of the log to fix all the errors that come up.

[warped panther]

i need help

i have been trying to start up the modpack called mmc4 but it keeps chrashing when i join my friends server

please help!

[tranquil solstice]

How much RAM did you allocate?

[tranquil solstice]

We'll need some logs to help. If the client is crashing, the crash report from the client. If the server is crashing, the crash report from the server.

[lilac helm]

!logs

[waxen brook]

To better assist with fixing your issue, we will need some logs:

• Curseforge -> Right click the modpack instance -> „Open Folder”.
• ATLauncher -> Click „Open Folder” on the modpack instance.
• MultiMC -> Select your instance and click „Instance Folder” on the right.
• PrismLauncher -> Select your instance and click „Folder” on the right.
• For servers -> Open the folder containing your server files.

To find the „latest.log” file, navigate to the 'logs' folder.
To find the „hs_err_pid.log” file, simply look for the file name after opening the instance folder.
To find a crash report, navigate to the „crash-reports” folder and find the most recent file after your crash occurred.

Once located, please upload the requested file here. If it fails, upload to https://mclo.gs/ and share the link here.

[tepid quartz]

Hello friends~. Me again, with a persistent "Disconnect" issue.

When I'm playing, I randomly get disconnected when playing on my friend's server with them. When I host from my own machine and they play with me, everything is fine. But when I play with them on their machine, or on their actual server, I get disconnected after like, 30ish minutes and Minecraft says the following;
Internal Exception: io.netty.handler.codec.DecoderException: java.util.zip.DataFormatException: Uncompressed size is inaccurate
I also got this one today, which was my first time seeing it.
[17:59:26] [Server thread/INFO] [minecraft/ServerGamePacketListenerImpl]: Belial_Orusa lost connection: Internal Exception: io.netty.handler.codec.DecoderException: java.util.zip.DataFormatException: inflate data is bad
Below are the logs from my own client.
Any help is appreciated. Q-q;
https://paste.atlauncher.com/view/ca5297dc-9824-4518-ae0a-5a2e6c6f6675

[tepid quartz]

Been struggling with this for about 5 days now, but I haven't had much time to get help cause I've been busy all week.
Whoever can help me fix my issues is an absolute legend.

[thick frigate]

It seems Apothic Compats is throwing a bunch of critical errors in the console. I checked for updates and there are none available for it or it's dependencies. Is it safe to remove Apothic Compats?

[tepid quartz]

Oh, here are server logs for my above disconnect issues.

[outer hollow]

Uploaded 2025-10-10-2.log.gz from @tepid quartz to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/TzeDqx9

[forest wharf]

well idk if itll fix your disconnect issues but you should also update foolproof server side for the server getting stuck stopping

[tepid quartz]

I don't have access to the server stuff, but I will let my friend know and cross my fingers in hope that it also fixes my issues. Haha

[orchid horizon]

10gb of ram, 1gb minimum, 10gb maximum

[lilac helm]

And how many friends do you have on your server?

[tranquil solstice]

Is that a server or your client?

[orchid horizon]

just client, only play singleplayer

[lilac helm]

For singleplayer 8 should be enough

[tranquil solstice]

Could you provide a screenshot of your F3?

[lilac helm]

You know what's really fun?
Crafting and equipping a pair of Rainbounce Boots and then jumping on top of umbrella trees from Better End

[tranquil solstice]

Rainbounce boots? Always something new to learn here...

[lilac helm]

Have you found the candyland cave biome?

[tranquil solstice]

Yes.

[lilac helm]

Then you can get a pair pretty easily

[tranquil solstice]

What makes the umbrella trees so special for them?

[lilac helm]

Once you start bouncing on them, you keep bouncing higher and higher

It's really satisfying

[tranquil solstice]

Time to plant some umbrella trees in the overworld.

[lilac helm]

You should try out the Conversion Crucible at some point too

[tranquil solstice]

The biome change thingy?

[lilac helm]

Ye

[tranquil solstice]

I'm worried it could mess something up, lol.

[lilac helm]

You should start off with the Toxic Caves

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[tranquil solstice]

You want me to turn my base into a toxic cave? 😂

Do you know the radius it affects?

[lilac helm]

It's fairly small

Like a few chunks

[tranquil solstice]

And does it only affect naturally generated blocks or also structures or placed blocks?

[lilac helm]

Here I'll test on my end

[orchid horizon]

been messing with chunky as gfazo said at the beginning but no luck so i had to create a new world, load all initial chunks, then start moving to generate new chunks

[lilac helm]

It'll place a few blocks of the surface material and it'll change various properties like temperature (does water turn into ice) and mob spawns mainly

And then atmosphere

So you could do like Mushroom Island or Final Plateau which have no hostile mobs

[tranquil solstice]

a) Which version of MMC5 are you on?
b) How much total RAM does your PC have.
c) Sometimes it helps to limit FPS to, say, 80 instead of unlimited. That way it's less fluctuating.

[orchid horizon]

latest v26, PC has a total of 16gb of ram, ill set fps limit to refresh rate then

[tranquil solstice]

I got mega torches (which are semi-effective). Might look for a biome with a nice atmosphere.

[lilac helm]

Oh shoot how am I supposed to complete this now

[orchid horizon]

i dont think nuclear bombs are apart of the modpack normally, what mod even is that

[lilac helm]

But yeah it's like a 16x16x16 centered on the crucible

[tranquil solstice]

v26 supposedly improved world gen a lot, not sure why it's that bad for you. The only other thing I would check next time it halts or freezes is your task manager (right click on task bar) to see how much total RAM your PC is using. If it's more than 85%, lower the allocated RAM to 8 GB.

[tranquil solstice]

Is it slowly progressing or is that all the change there is??

[lilac helm]

That's it

[tranquil solstice]

Kinda disappointing D:

[lilac helm]

I think there is some randomness to it
Or well let me check chunk borders

[tranquil solstice]

There's that one tree from Twilight Forest that changes a biome, that's a lot more than this.

[lilac helm]

Unless it's like this for their cave biomes cause they're rare y'know

[orchid horizon]

minecraft makes my RAM stay at 86% utilization, a consistent 11gb of ram usage and consistent 98% CPU utilization when loading new chunks, this is with discord open so there is a little bit of room for error

[tranquil solstice]

Oh, hmm, perhaps. If they really want to prevent you from farming blocks or something. But since you need to find the biome to convert it into it, that's rather pointless.

[orchid horizon]

interestingly enough, when not dealing with structures and just generating blank new chunks it goes pretty fast, but the moment it has to generate a structure, it starts slowing down to a crawl

[tranquil solstice]

That does sound like the CPU is the bottleneck.

[lilac helm]

Yeah I tested with a different one and it was the same area

Not one of their caves

[tranquil solstice]

Can you perform the same biome conversion twice in the same spot? Would that result in a bigger area?

[lilac helm]

?

[tranquil solstice]

Tree of Transformation.

Can't choose the biome though, that's the downside of it.

[lilac helm]

Didn't really do anything

[tranquil solstice]

Hrmpf.

[orchid horizon]

i guess, cant really do anything about the cpu, since its a somewhat older intel i5 it has its own socket so there really arent many choices to upgrade to, only solution would be to get a new motherboard and new cpu but at that point its just better to get an entirely new pc

[lilac helm]

Doesn't seem to be a config option either

But I was looking through the config and saw this
```#True if the Nuclear Furnace should only use recipes using the alexscaves:nuclear_furnace recipe type, false to use regular behavior.
nuclear_furnace_custom_type = false

Can I add a Nuclear Furnace recipe?

It extends cooking recipe

So maybe :)

[tranquil solstice]

Sadly. And the modpack is pretty much optimized. MMC5 even has a mod for multi-threading, which should help significantly with chunk loading and terrain generation (since vanilla Minecraft does that on a single thread).

[tranquil solstice]

Ohhh, that looks promising!

[lilac helm]

Here goes nothing

Unknown recipe category: alexscaves:nuclear_furnace/alexscaves:nuclear_furnace/coal_to_diamonds

I'm not giving up that easily though

That must exist for a reason

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah, that would be weird if Alex made a config for a recipe type that he didn't even reference in the code.

[lilac helm]

If I must I'll just join his Discord and ask there

[tranquil solstice]

Or maybe he really did because he only intended to add it sometime later and never did.

[lilac helm]

Well if it's a functional config option
Then the easiest way to find out is to follow its pathing

[tranquil solstice]

And that's where my understanding ends.

[bold torrent]

For MMC4, I'm hosting a server and a friend of mine is a blazeborn. They're still required to drink water but they can't drink it

Any sorta solution or he is cooked

[lilac helm]

public static RecipeType<? extends AbstractCookingRecipe> getRecipeType(){
        if (AlexsCaves.COMMON_CONFIG.nuclearFurnaceCustomType.get()) {
            return ACRecipeRegistry.NUCLEAR_FURNACE_TYPE.get(); //guess I'm going here next
        }
        return AlexsCaves.COMMON_CONFIG.nuclearFurnaceBlastingOnly.get() ? RecipeType.BLASTING : RecipeType.SMELTING;
    }

public class NuclearFurnaceRecipe extends AbstractCookingRecipe {

[tranquil solstice]

I might need a translation for that.

[lilac helm]

Basically I think

I need to enable the config change to get this to work, but then I'd have to manually re-add every single blasting recipe under it

And there were like 200+ of them

Guess I'm figuring out if my fear is true

[tranquil solstice]

What I don't understand is why it said unknown recipe category. Doesn't it say there "ACRecipeRegistry.NUCLEAR_FURNACE_TYPE"? That sounds like the custom recipe category to me.

[lilac helm]

So, to be basic

Every creation of a custom item, block, recipe, etc. requires it to be registered before you can use it and expand on it
It basically lets the game know that a new thing has been created

All that's refering to is the registered recipe type

[tranquil solstice]

Okay. So it is registered, which means it can be used...?

[lilac helm]

Oh my gosh I do have to enable the config change
As soon as I joined the world it proccessed

Why couldn't it just allow both?

[tranquil solstice]

Ohh, you hadn't enabled it before? I get it now.

[lilac helm]

Yeah, the issue though is that all the original recipes are gone now

That is the only recipe for it now

[tranquil solstice]

You mean the "cloned" blast furnace recipes. Well, that's a minor inconvenience.

[lilac helm]

Minor? That's pretty big
Again, there's 200+ of them, and if more get added in the future I'd have to update and support those too

Also note to self that the duration field gets divided by 5

[tranquil solstice]

Is it possible to edit this part in a datapack? Then you could include the "return ... RecipeType.BLASTING" in the "if"-section of the enabled config, if you know what I mean.

[lilac helm]

No this would be Java

[tranquil solstice]

Bah.

[lilac helm]

This would be a mixin

Assuming that it even could be resolved that way

Java can be very resistant with what can get changed or not

[tranquil solstice]

That's unfortunate :[

[lilac helm]

So the main questions are

1. Are we even going to use this?
2. If we do, is it worth the trouble to do so?

[tranquil solstice]

We don't have to use this, it would just be a fun additional way of creating custom recipes. Is it worth the trouble? Unless there's an easier way that we are missing rn, probably not.

[lilac helm]

I mean, it's one slot AND at its finest, an Overworld level recipe

So the potential isn't high

[tranquil solstice]

That's true, and you can (and I think already have) include items from that biome in "normal" recipes, so there isn't much of an extra-effort here besides crafting the furnace.

And if you really want more ways to make more complex recipes, there are still Ars Nouveau, Wizard's Reborn and Blood Magic and stuff.

[lilac helm]

Yeah
Something that goes through my mind is that recipes like the Magic Workbench allow for all the normal crafting recipe ON TOP of its custom ones

[tranquil solstice]

That's nice, but who doesn't have a normal crafting table?

[lilac helm]

True but you get the point
Other recipe types can expand on existing types while adding in their new ones

[tranquil solstice]

Fair.

Would perhaps be interesting to see how Eidolon coded the part that Alex made mutually exclusive. Not that it would help us though.

[lilac helm]

It might just be part of the vanilla crafting table part
Cause I've seen bigger crafting recipe types allow for 3x3's

The point still stands
How many extra uses are we gonna find for this guy to make the trouble worth it?

Probably not enough if you ask me

[tranquil solstice]

2 at best. Definitely not worth it.

[lilac helm]

This is like the worst kind of torture
I'd rather it just not exist at all than have it be in this state

[tranquil solstice]

XD

[lilac helm]

So yeah, unless there would be a really easy Java fix
Not worth it. Period. End of day.

To be fair, I've never touched Blood Magic before

[tranquil solstice]

Me neither. I've just seen in JEI that you can craft or make equipment with it somehow, so I assume it could be used for other purposes, too. No idea how complicated the mod is though.

I haven't even read the guide book.

[lilac helm]

I don't have it on my instance and its getting late enough to the point that I don't want to bother with it for today

Of course, if there was one really good recipe type mod to add

It would be Create, hands down

But uh
I'm not here to turn MMC4 into a tech modpack

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah, and it's already quite heavy D:

[lilac helm]

Now one type that I haven't really touched that I could look into

Is Eidolon's Crucible recipe

[tranquil solstice]

It's a personal non-favourite of mine.

[lilac helm]

This one is really flexible in crafting approaches

[lilac helm]

Everyone has some favorites and non-favorites :/

[tranquil solstice]

If you're too slow it just eats all the materials 😭

[lilac helm]

True

I mean tbf, some of the recipes I've currently made require items that can only be made by the crucible (although you might be able to find them in the catacombs )

It's a thought, not a definite

[tranquil solstice]

It's fine, you can of course use the crucible. Just try to not make the recipes require more items than you can hold in your hotbar, otherwise you'll get a lot of users crying about failing it :D

[lilac helm]

Tbf these would be more about small items to then use for bigger recipes

A fair amount of Eidolon's are just cheaper/alternate recipes for other items that you can get in other ways

[tranquil solstice]

That's not too bad 👍

[lilac helm]

Now one that I could (probably) use is the Alchemy Table from Blue Skies

This thing is OP btw

Like you can alternate between any wood type with this

[tranquil solstice]

I just wish it had a search function.

Almost any wood type, yeah. I don't remember which, but there was a mod whose woods weren't listed. Probably a missing tag.

Aether I think.

[lilac helm]

Crumble Horn could potentially be interesting

[tranquil solstice]

I might be blind. That's why I want the search function >:(

[lilac helm]

Clibano Combustion...

Mechanical Fusion Anvil (that would be a really endgame one, just remove that stupid Wandering Trader trade)

Wandering Traitor

[tranquil solstice]

Oof.

[lilac helm]

That and potentially some Blood Magic or maybe Wizard's Reborn is really it as far as viable recipe types go (at least in my instance)

Starlit Factory if I really want to be evil

And Crafting Rituals

That's really it

[tranquil solstice]

Quite a few options still.

[lilac helm]

Yeah

End Stone Smelter and Infusions technically but those don't show in JEI so I'd like to refrain from using them

And Anvil Smithing

[tranquil solstice]

Might as well include Brewing then.

[lilac helm]

Brewing isn't supported by datapacks

[tranquil solstice]

(Technically both brewing stand and brewin'&chewin')

Sad life.

[lilac helm]

Cooking pots I guess but not really

And cutting is a one slot recipe but I can specify the tool or item to cut with

Capsid, Enchanting, Aetherial Capacitors are all one slot

Same for Altar of Amethyst

[tranquil solstice]

Altar from Aether? Also 1 slot.

[lilac helm]

Yeah I mentioned that already

And Freezers too

Uh I guess Deep Aether's combiner could be used

That's 3 slots

[tranquil solstice]

Impressive.

What is it normally used for?

[lilac helm]

Moa food buffs

Moa Fodlers

[tranquil solstice]

Ah.

I haven't bothered with them birbs yet.

[lilac helm]

Poison is one item conversion

Fletching is meant for arrows

Smithing is smithing

All the furnace types are 1 slot

[tranquil solstice]

Except the one you don't wanna use, yeah.

[lilac helm]

Even that's 1

[tranquil solstice]

Better End's? Should be 2.

[lilac helm]

Oh the End Stone one

I thought you were talking about Nuclear Furnace again

[tranquil solstice]

Nah, sorry.

Well, 1 or 2 slots isn't that great of a difference anyway.

The End ritual would be more interesting, but without JEI indeed troublesome.

[lilac helm]

Crumble Horn is 1 block

[lilac helm]

2 allows for a little customization
1 more or less just makes it based on what stage of the game you're in, nothing about item collection

[tranquil solstice]

True.

[lilac helm]

That's about it

Salvaging is 1 slot

Gem Cutting is hardcoded

Those few anvil crushing mechanics are also hardcoded

Yeah

That's it basically

So yeah almost none of them have more than 3 or 4 slots per

Dragonforges too, same issue

At least they have 2 slots and not just 1

[tranquil solstice]

Maybe we should have a look at Blood Magic sometime to see how many slots it has.

[lilac helm]

Pretty much all of them were like 4 or 6

[tranquil solstice]

Wizard's Reborn has 13 slots on the crafting table and I think 9 slots on the alchemy machine (6 items and 3 fluids).

[lilac helm]

Fluids now? >:)

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah, and the mod adds a bunch of fluids, too.

[lilac helm]

I see

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[lilac helm]

"slightly disappointing"

[tranquil solstice]

Spinach is always disappointing.

[chilly yacht]

hiya i just started on Medieval Minecraft Forge 1.20 - MMC4 im using curse forge first load in on my server and i was unable to pick my origin or classes so i reloaded and it let me pick my Origin but not my classes even after reloading again am i doing something wrong? also my wings are missing

[thick frigate]

So I managed to fix the server. Some mods needed updating, a few configs had typos and errors that needed fixing, and a few of the mods themselves had bugs in the code that needed to be fixed.,

Now my question, how do I disable that red X that floats on your screen whenever you die? I want it to show the map X but not on my screen as I play.

New world, just spawned in on top of this massive problem. Top is at world height limit. What happened

[molten vigil]

that structure overrode a village so it chose the only valid “safe” spawn which would be the roof

[molten vigil]

this would be in the journeymap settings, which are available from a button on the world map

[molten vigil]

there’s no separate class layer selection after origin selection, character build specialization is done through the skill tree