medieval-mc-forge

[lilac helm]

Plus Shield of Repulsion only works when you're not moving, and most of the mobs will probably be moving more or less nonstop

[tranquil solstice]

It does, really? I haven't noticed that, lemme test.

I'm invisible 90% of the time so mobs usually don't see me anyway, maybe that's why I never noticed :P

[lilac helm]

Yeah moving disables it

[tranquil solstice]

What a pity :[

Okay dodge it is then. I still don't get hit fairly often, probably because of my dodge chance.

[lilac helm]

Tbh the biggest issue is how do you make them stand a chance

How do you make it so it's balanced without being way too punishing or just one tap and you're done

Let me just figure out gear sets first

The main items that the bosses will have equipped

• Draco Arcanus
• Tyr
• Dragonsteel
• Ignitium
• Cursium
• Forlorn Harbinger
• Tectonic Crest
• Abyssal Hide
• Cursed Wraithguard
• Mechanized Exoskeleton
• Crimson Wizard
• Ghost Warrior
• Crimson (dungeons and combat)

That seems good, pulled from the best of armor sets

[tranquil solstice]

I would say there are a few things that make fights too easy and maybe we can mitigate those:
a) killing from such a distance that the boss has no chance to even hit you
b) tanking everything away so that the boss can't hurt you
c) 1-tapping the boss

So for a) I'd say we need to somehow reduce projectile effectiveness (since the Shield doesn't work, and dodge also affects melee, how about Projectile Prot 255 or smth?
For b), make the boss do so much damage that even my 680 armor can't handle it. If it 1-hits or 2-hits me, I actually need to dodge or run circles around it, which is good.
And for c) maybe there is a way to limit max damage dealt per attack to the boss (like "won't take more than 5k per hit), or alternatively so many defences that you need a weapon with at least X amount of damage to get through.

[lilac helm]

Well there is Puffish Attributes mod
I may seriously see if we can't add it just so that I can use some of its attributes for the bosses

that would cover a

b is easy enough, just add extra current hp damage, and/or crit chance and crit danage

c is hard

[tranquil solstice]

b could also be armor shred

[lilac helm]

that and protection shred/pierce too

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah, then it's just a question of how much HP does the player have, and the amount of armor is less relevant.

[lilac helm]

And Puffish Attributes has toughness shred too so we can enforce an armor toughness of higher than 30

Cause in Apotheosis, anything over 30 toughness is pointless

[tranquil solstice]

Rip my 52.

[lilac helm]

ofc we give the bosses a lot

Cause Blazing Brand can reduce armor toughness (on top of armor itself)

Make Blazing Brand something the player wants

[tranquil solstice]

I was about to suggest the Blessed Amulet for the bosses, which prevents all negative effects. But that would not make players want to get Blazing Brand.

[lilac helm]

We want the bosses to be tough, but we want to reward preparation and clever, strategic planning

[tranquil solstice]

Fair point.

[lilac helm]

Truth is that in terms of damage, it's really two sided: pre-Celestisynth and post Celestisynth

Don't mind me when I equip the bosses with them >:D

[tranquil solstice]

Are those weapons that good? I haven't even looked into that mod.

[lilac helm]

Fully optimized, I believe they can deal millions of damage

[tranquil solstice]

Would be funny if you incentivized players to get such a weapon in order to beat these bosses.

[lilac helm]

I mean
Let this image describe how op I'm talking here

(this was when you could still wield bows in offhand)

[tranquil solstice]

That's a little more than millions.

[lilac helm]

And that method has since been patched from the game

[tranquil solstice]

Okay good, that would've made balancing a nightmare.

[lilac helm]

Not just the bow part

[lilac helm]

this is already a nightmare

[tranquil solstice]

LOL

I think we're doing not too bad so far.

[lilac helm]

The good news is

There does seem to be an attribute just for these weapons that can provide resistance to them

So we can control these weapons of decimation

[tranquil solstice]

Very nice.

[lilac helm]

The one other thing is
There is a resistance attribute by Puffish Attributes that can reduce attack damage not just by a multiplier, but also by a flat amount

Dynamic attributes are wonderful

So we can just add an amount like 5000 or something and that's -5000 to any damage

Not as good as a damage cap per attack but that's something

Plus most all the Cataclysm bosses already come with a built in damage cap

[tranquil solstice]

That's still good, yes. It means any attack with less than that won't do anything.

Well, we're currently 1-hitting them, so something about that built-in damage cap is not sufficient XD

[lilac helm]

May be a later version
Do you mind going to a target dummy and just telling me your current dps

[tranquil solstice]

I can do that, hold on.

[lilac helm]

👍

I don't have the best computer so my game is kind of chugging

[tranquil solstice]

My laptop isn't the best either, but it survives. Just need to load into the world again.

[lilac helm]

👍

I need to put this up soon so yeah

If there's anything else you want me to check in game, now's probably the time to mention it

[tranquil solstice]

Around 350k dps after ~10 seconds. The longer I go the higher the dps, so that would not be helpful.

[tranquil solstice]

Hmm, nothing comes to mind.

[lilac helm]

👍

Then I shall put the game up for tonight

[lilac helm]

Yeah and that's without Celestisynth

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah, only with a terrible sword.

My divine smite can hit for more though.

[lilac helm]

Yeah Iron's Spellbooks is already nuts to handle

Cause truth is, especially if you can get spell power so high, Heartstop, Abyssal Shroud AND Evasion basically grant you invulnerability

Then again, same goes for doing the potion route in skill tree and making Resistance 5 potions

[tranquil solstice]

I'd assume that only a small portion of players goes the potion route, so we can focus on the others XD

[lilac helm]

Yeah
All the others would need both a nerf in spell power and cooldown time

Now, in 1.21 at least, there is a counterspell spell effect

[tranquil solstice]

What about Warding?

[lilac helm]

(too bad this isn't 1.21 where we can add spell cast affixes)

[lilac helm]

That's for Ars Nouveau

[tranquil solstice]

Ah, no effect on other magic damage? Sad.

[lilac helm]

There is spell resistance though

We can add that if we want

[tranquil solstice]

Oh yeah, right.

[lilac helm]

And part of really buffing Esoteric (and its reward for the player) is fixing some of its affixes

Like fix the physical damage affix to actually protect against physical damage

[agile blade]

In MMC5 is there any other way to farm wood better than using ars nouveau plant helicopters?

[night otter]

Ty @lilac helm @tranquil solstice !

[lean dagger]

the modpack is already fully optimized

items have basically 0 performance impact

[lilac helm]

Further testing seems to reveal that they do have a damage cap, but Crit Chance and Crit Damage seem to be able to bypass it

I have these two weapons right here

You would think that the dragonsteel sword would beat them quicker, but actually the axe chops away at them faster

And I'm on a seperate instance so they have way less health and armor than they do on MMC4

So again, a good idea may be to just unify affixes for the higher tiers
Give Esoteric gear Crit Chance and Crit Damage, armor Healing Received, etc.

[tranquil solstice]

That would make sense, since my sword does indeed rely on crits.

[lilac helm]

I mean it just got nerfed for MMC5, wouldn't be suprised if it comes around to MMC4

Is the second bigger one from skill tree?

[tranquil solstice]

Skill tree? These are all on the sword itself.

[lilac helm]

I know but you have 2 crit chances and 2 crit damages

[tranquil solstice]

45% crit chance and 40% crit damage are affixes, the 400% crit damge and 50% crit hit are built into the sword by default. It's a terrible sword from Aquamirae.

[lilac helm]

oh that

So it's just a coin flip on x5 damage

💀

adds terrible sword to the list of weapons for esoteric bosses to utilize

[fathom saffron]

What is the prerequisite to unlock the forge boss?

[tranquil solstice]

I got 100% crit chance due to gems and stuff, but the damage is rather unreliable nevertheless.

[lilac helm]

-# fun fact overcrits are a thing

[tranquil solstice]

-# What are overcrits? Are they random?

[lilac helm]

If you have over 100% Crit Chance, you can keep doing critical hits until you do run out of chance

So 200% would be 2 crits, 250% would be 2 guareented crits with a 50% chance of a third one

For each extra crit you'll multiply damage again, but every crit after the third one will reduce your Crit Damage multiplier by 15% every time

SO if you had the default 150%, the first crit would be 150%, the second would be 127.5%, the third would be 108.375%

And if it goes below 100% it will stop critting regardless of how many crits you have

[tranquil solstice]

That's such a weird way to calculate crits though, lol. So a 100% crit chance is 1 guaranteed crit and then no more? How long until it "recharges" to 1 guaranteed crit?

[lilac helm]

100% would be guaranteed 1 crit, 200% would be guaranteed 2 crits, 300% 3, and so on

And it applies for every single attack you do

Crit Chance and Crit Damage are the most important affixes, even after Current HP damage to an extent (depends on how much of it you have and how much health the boss has)

You almost always want a heavy weapon when playing apotheosis

Cause the attributes for heavy weapons are higher than for light weapons, likely to counteract the slow (but not really that slow) attack speed

[tranquil solstice]

When you look at the locked quest it should show the dependencies on the top left when you click on that arrow:

[fathom saffron]

Ahh thanks!

[tranquil solstice]

cHin, I may be slow on the uptake here. If 100% guarantees a crit on every single attack, wouldn't that in itself make every hit be a crit? I might not understand the difference between "hit" and "attack" here.

[lilac helm]

hit and attack is the same thing
If you have 100% crit chance, every single hit on a mob you make, regardless of the damage source (as long as its tied to you) will cause a critical hit and deal extra damage based on your critical damage

[tranquil solstice]

Okay. That part I get. But then what is the 200% overcrit? Additional damage?

[lilac helm]

Yes

More Crit Chance means more damage, as long as you also make sure to increase Crit Damage after a point

[tranquil solstice]

Because of the 15% reduction per hit, alright.

So with my current setup it would probably be more useful to increase crit chance, since 250% crit damage can buffer a couple of 15% reductions.

[lilac helm]

Oh yeah, up Crit Chance as much as you can

Socket a Perfect Samurai gem into your weapon if you can

[tranquil solstice]

I already have one in it D:

[lilac helm]

Oh nice

Do you have a Royal Gem in your helmet

[tranquil solstice]

I do, yes.

[lilac helm]

I saw you have depths gem in chestplate

Eye of Ur-Ghast in boots?

[tranquil solstice]

Indeed >:)

[lilac helm]

Noice

[tranquil solstice]

I could take out the armor toughness gem from my chestplate though since you said 50+ is overkill.

[lilac helm]

Yeah

But I'm not too sure there's much more you can do to up it from there

[tranquil solstice]

I mean, if there's nothing else there is always "+4 levels to all enchantments".

[lilac helm]

Um

Do you have gem of the combatant?

The one that gives physical damage reduction

[tranquil solstice]

Ohh, I got that in my chest only, not the chest_plate_

[lilac helm]

Yeah that should be in both chestplate and leggings

Pretty much the best gem for defense

[tranquil solstice]

On my leggings I have this affix. Do they stack? It doesn't say +%

[lilac helm]

Yeah they stack

Kind of

If you have two 20% reductions, it's 36% total reduction, not 40%

[tranquil solstice]

Sad that its not shown in the stats. Unless I'm blind.

Do you happen to know the difference between Chilled and Irradiated? The description sounds pretty similar.

[rare jolt]

how do i update the server MMC5 to the new version without reset journey map and messing up something? (thx for notice the op crits devs)

[lilac helm]

Pretty sure they both prevent healing

[lilac helm]

Anyways got the size hitboxes for all the bosses

• Warden: Width: 0.875, Height: 2.875

• Wither: Width: 0.875, Height: 3.5

• Nether Guantlet: Width: 2, Height: 4 (weird hitbox so we'll see)

• Captain Cornelia: Width 0.625, Height 2.375

• Maledictus: Width 1.5, Height 3

• Ignis: Width 2.25, Height 3.5

• Ender Guardian: Width 2.5, Height 3.8125

[tranquil solstice]

Dumb question, but what do you need them for? Only to see whether they're too chunky for the dimension?

[lilac helm]

I don't know really but it's a required field in the boss schema

[tranquil solstice]

Oh :o

[lilac helm]

Now I need to add all the gear sets in

I added Pufferfish Attributes to my MMC4 instance

So time to get experimenting

[tranquil solstice]

Sounds like it's compatible at least. Have fun!

[lilac helm]

I'm still launching
It should be compatible

[tranquil solstice]

Ah-

[lilac helm]

better end is beautiful with shaders

I'm just always reminded when I see the loading screen pop up finalizing everything

[tranquil solstice]

True, but my laptop would kill me.

[lilac helm]

My laptop kills me whenever I try running shaders on Forge, but Fabric they run just fine

I also have hope for Neoforge too, cause whenever I go into Twilight Forest in that version the aurora in the snowy forest doesn't crunch my fps like in regular Forge

[tranquil solstice]

Haven't noticed that one, though I only was there twice or so.

[lilac helm]

Something that does easily crunch my fps though, and I have to disable them in config all the time

Is the Betweenlands in 1.12.2

It uses a lot of shader resources

[tranquil solstice]

The Betweenlands is the most beautiful dimension I've ever seen, ngl.

[lilac helm]

success

[winter herald]

I'm running a MMC4 server and I'm trying to configure auto-leveling. What config controls the levels outside of the main config file for distance from spawn and depth?

[lilac helm]

It's a datapack

[winter herald]

My friends are encountering stronger and stronger mobs on the overworld

And they cant keep up

Is there any config for it?

[lilac helm]

Skill tree will also up the levels

[winter herald]

Ok so its based on the skill tree?

[lilac helm]

So if they're rapidly leveling it up

[lilac helm]

That, dimension, and distance from spawn or 0,0 (and some mobs have preset levels too)

[winter herald]

I configred the distance to turn that off, but I amplified the depth

[lilac helm]

The last 3 can be found in config/paxi/datapacks/mmc_autoleveling

[winter herald]

Ok thanks

[lilac helm]

The first one is in config/medieval

[winter herald]

Thank you!

[agile blade]

About #announcements does Bisecthosting servers automatically update to that version or has to be done manually?

[lilac helm]

Would have no idea, sorry

[agile blade]

😭

ima ask in bisect serber

server*

[lilac helm]

👍

[lilac helm]

Did you add any data packs or was this default?

[lament ledge]

i dont know what a data pack is...so im guessing i never added anything

[lilac helm]

Then you probably downloaded the modpack incorrectly

[lament ledge]

well, i have over 40 hours on it already.....

[lilac helm]

oh

Did you just update?

[lament ledge]

no, is there an update?

[lilac helm]

There is so I'd try that, probably won't do anything but worth a shot

[lament ledge]

OH, hey, there is an update. nice

i hate updating because i usually lose my waypoints or something goes wrong

[agile blade]

Also

Is dragon steel supposed to drop from those smelt bags?

my friend got like 7 blocks of steel from just bags

and doesn't even know how to get a dragon

[lament ledge]

Hi, silly question:

Can i make this into rare item?

nevermind i think i figured it out

[lilac helm]

Also, got to check but I might be able to add nbt onto the gear

So I can add default enchantments

Make the gear unbreakable

The works

[lament ledge]

is there a luck chart somewhere? how much luck do i actually need?

[lilac helm]

For what?

[lament ledge]

when i am looting chests.

loot generated..

[lilac helm]

There is no specific amount that you need

[lament ledge]

i understand - is ther ea table that says 'this is max that you do need' to get max loot roll?

also - is there a way to salvage these jeweleries?

I know im stupid - but somehow i hid my GUI ....i cant find the default key to return the gui

[lilac helm]

F1

[lament ledge]

that shows all the data...

oh - weird - i just quit and reloaded and fixed it. weird bug

[lament ledge]

Medieval MC 5 - v24 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.21.1 [NEOFORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
   AT launcher
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
   Added drawer mod
4. v24
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | debug.log head / tail (~14MB & ~68k lines) | crash-2025-08-14_11.10.57-client.txt | atlauncher.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

Added mods:
onlyhammers-1.21.1-0.8.jar
Storage Drawers-neoforge-1.21.1-13.8.13.jar

Removed mods:
additionalentityattributes-neoforge-2.0.0+1.21.1.jar

[lilac helm]

additional entity attributes is used so that's going to cause a crash

[tranquil solstice]

The mod [isn't actually removed](#medieval-mc-forge message).

[lilac helm]

Oh

That's weird

Just went swimming but had to leave early cause a thunderstorm started up

[tranquil solstice]

That's the smart thing to do 👍

[lament ledge]

what pickaxe mines mithril ore?

[fathom saffron]

Netherite

[lament ledge]

pfffft. ok

[rare jolt]

how do i update the server MMC5 to the new version without reset journey map and messing up something?

[forest wharf]

you'd just make a copy of the journey map folder when updating

!updateserver

[waxen brook]

https://youtu.be/9dLMOiPp_Vk

[lilac helm]

Me accidentally writing tectonic crust instead of tectonic crest

[rare jolt]

how tthis works? MMC5

[lilac helm]

30 entries added

Now to see if I can't attach nbt to these items

[lilac helm]

No clue, sorry

I'm guessing left slot is fuel and middle slot is the item to put in but otherwise I got 0 clue

[rare jolt]

i tried many ideas but nothing happens, theres no info at all about that item also

[agile blade]

i just found a extremely easy dupe glitch in mmc5

sending clip

in a sec

[molten vigil]

can you dm me instead

[agile blade]

alr

dm'ed

[molten vigil]

yeah there is a very big range of ‘overpowered’

[lilac helm]

I just tried adding enchantments to gear sets and either I made a mistake somewhere or it doesn't work

Logs aren't telling me that anything is wrong so

I'm going to try and make them unbreakable and see if that works

[molten vigil]

are you adding the enchantments through nbt?

the tag probably gets added without error but just doesn’t get parsed properly

can check /placebo hand

[lilac helm]

Yeah it's just not even there
My guess is that they're getting overrided by the enchant function within the boss files itself

I know that with 1.21 it works cause Apotheosis itself uses it, guess it's not the case for 1.20.1 though

If it was an error I feel like it would have popped up with the command but just not be working right

Oh wait I was being dumb

The item dropped that I set for testing was the affix item with the last one

Got it

So it does work

Obviously I won't use Sharpness 100 but I can do some pretty extensive enchantments

And of course if we don't want any of the items with unbreakable properties and overlevel enchantments to drop, we can always add Curse of Vanishing to the item

The affix item completely ignores the set properties just like in 1.21.1

[agile blade]

Yooooo

Any1 know how to unlock the locked fire spells from irons"

Bone storm, ashen breath

etc

Infernal strike

Unfolding Coruscation

[lilac helm]

I don't think they're locked, it just means that you can't craft it
Pretty sure you have to find it in the world

[agile blade]

it says the spell must be learned first

[lilac helm]

Once you do find it though you can upgrade it with ink in an Arcane Anvil

[agile blade]

yeah ik i did that with

Raise hell from that boss

in the nether

idk which bosses drop the other scrolls tho, jei doesnt say anything

and idk which addon adds them

ohh nvm i think ik...

probably ignis

from cataclysm

btw is there any way to locate structures in MMC5?

[lilac helm]

Most structures, no

Which one are you looking for

Ignis Arena?

[agile blade]

yeah

[lilac helm]

You can craft the Eye of Flame and use it to locate the structure

[agile blade]

oh bet ty

[minor karma]

i just picked up MMc4 and i was wondering if there's a way to turn off the dungeons respawning? or what mod is doing it? i dont really understand how it works 😭

[lilac helm]

now ofc another fun idea

Gems give the player a lot of power in Apotheosis

So what if we

gave it to the bosses

:D

[lilac helm]

config/medieval, there should be an option there to disable it

[minor karma]

🫡 thank you!

[lilac helm]

"enableAutoRegeneration": true,

Set this to false

[rare jolt]

I did this so far to give the mobs a better chance

thats summit difficult, i dont know how to further change the stats, like % damage, armor, armor pierce, explosive damage...

[lilac helm]

You can get percentage increases by changing the operation of the attributes

add_value adds a number
add_multiplied base multiplies everything, and stacks with other sources that use the same operations
add_multiplied_total multiplies everything

[lilac helm]

Why is there Netherite in an overworld structure?

AND a free Heart of the Sea

AND a totem of undying

This place is OP

[molten vigil]

what structure is that?

[lilac helm]

Was just some villager structure with a huge wheat field

I put my computer up for tonight so I don't have an image

But it gave me 3 Hearts of the Sea, a Totem of Undying and a netherite scrap

And a couple of golden apples

[fast mural]

Weird

[agile blade]

btw muon, question, dragonsteel is supposed to be a hard material to get... my buddies has gotten around 6~ blocks of each element purely from a farm and smelter bags, is that supposed to like that? getting such exclusive item from... bags..

huh?

never heard of remain mod

[molten vigil]

hmm

[agile blade]

this is mmc5

well mmc forge to be exact

[agile blade]

he doesnt even know how to get a dragon, he found a wild t3 and tried taming it with beef 😭

[molten vigil]

we nerfed this previously, I need to look at the new treasure bag loot table format for 1.21.1

[agile blade]

he is also getting twilight forest

[molten vigil]

i have a bunch of other treasure bag changes planned so I’ll make sure to change this

[agile blade]

metals

[molten vigil]

yeah it’s just a random roll for any ingot by default lol

pretty crazy

[agile blade]

yeah thats op...

u can just get any metal of the game with a good enough farm

overnight afk grind

actually yeah thats what he did to be exact

[molten vigil]

one of the other plans is to lower the treasure bag drop rate from spawner mobs

[agile blade]

he got most metals of the game from afk pillager grind

[molten vigil]

should be doable

[agile blade]

fair

[molten vigil]

please tell me ignitium and cursium aren’t in there

[agile blade]

i feel like that smelter bag should only contain at max netherite ingots..

[agile blade]

idk probably...

ill sneak check his chests

he had a lot of metals

[molten vigil]

yeah I’ll either have the random ingot roll be absurdly small or just remove it entirely and only do specific ingots

[agile blade]

yeah thats fair

also uh, my friends re starting to use the thing that caused the bug i sent u in dm's

when is it getting fixed

i feel like they re gonna discover it very soon...

🥹

uhm

@molten vigil

im sorry for the ping

ignitium is dropped by ignis?

yes it is...

muon, ignitium does drop from those damn bags, my friends have 1

and last time they fought ignis they got absolutely destroyed

[fast mural]

They are, dropped an ignitium a week or so back

[steel spear]

for medieval origins says i need spell engine, is this only for fabric?

[molten vigil]

yeah, on Forge Iron’s Spellbooks is recommended instead though not strictly required

[molten vigil]

you can add smelter bags to the item obliterator config if you’re concerned about it ruining your playthrough

[real vault]

structures keep respawning how do i stop that?

[agile blade]

can i change what metals are they able to drop?

[grim field]

Is this sorting mod present by default in this modpack?

(neoforge 1.21.1)

[sleek whale]

im playing MMC 4 origin revenant and for some reason every time i eat bones or skeleton skulls my the world kicks me out, does anyone know how to stop this?

[lament ledge]

yes, it is. default button is middle mouse button

[fallow hamlet]

my server doesn't want to start fully
It just spits this out mid-startup and then stops continuing the startup.

[15:04:52] [modloading-worker-0/ERROR] [mo.ma.fl.FluffyFur/]: Bad package detected: net.mcreator.aetherdelight
[15:04:52] [modloading-worker-0/ERROR] [mo.ma.fl.FluffyFur/]: Bad package detected: net.mcreator.quarkdelight
[15:04:52] [modloading-worker-0/ERROR] [mo.ma.fl.FluffyFur/]: Bad package detected: net.mcreator.realmrpgskeletons
[15:04:52] [modloading-worker-0/ERROR] [mo.ma.fl.FluffyFur/]: Bad package detected: net.mcreator.seadwellers
[15:04:52] [modloading-worker-0/ERROR] [mo.ma.fl.FluffyFur/]: Bad package detected: net.mcreator.farmersstructures
[15:04:52] [modloading-worker-0/ERROR] [mo.ma.fl.FluffyFur/]: Bad package detected: net.mcreator.dungeonsandcombat
[15:04:52] [modloading-worker-0/ERROR] [mo.ma.fl.FluffyFur/]: Bad package detected: net.mcreator.realmrpgdemons
[15:04:52] [modloading-worker-0/ERROR] [mo.ma.fl.FluffyFur/]: Bad package detected: net.mcreator.stalwartdungeons
[15:04:53] [modloading-worker-0/ERROR] [mo.ma.fl.FluffyFur/]: Bad package detected: net.mcreator.mobsofsins
[15:04:53] [modloading-worker-0/ERROR] [mo.ma.fl.FluffyFur/]: Bad package detected: net.mcreator.apotheoticadditions
[15:04:53] [modloading-worker-0/ERROR] [mo.ma.fl.FluffyFur/]: Bad package detected: net.mcreator.sonsofsins
[15:04:53] [modloading-worker-0/ERROR] [mo.ma.fl.FluffyFur/]: 
[15:04:53] [modloading-worker-0/ERROR] [mo.ma.fl.FluffyFur/]: ATTENTION!!!!
[15:04:53] [modloading-worker-0/ERROR] [mo.ma.fl.FluffyFur/]: It seems you have MCreator mods installed
[15:04:53] [modloading-worker-0/ERROR] [mo.ma.fl.FluffyFur/]: It is highly recommended to delete them
[15:04:53] [modloading-worker-0/ERROR] [mo.ma.fl.FluffyFur/]: [aetherdelight, quarkdelight, realmrpgskeletons, seadwellers, farmersstructures, dungeonsandcombat, realmrpgdemons, stalwartdungeons, mobsofsins, apotheoticadditions, sonsofsins]

[scarlet sage]

The client on the server begins to experience strong world freezes when another person next to him activates the midnight robe ability when a purple circle appears. Has anyone come across something like this, any suggestions on how to solve this problem? MMC4

[fathom saffron]

If I want to remove the treasurebags from the loottable should I go to \Neoforge.server\config\treasurebags-server.Toml and add "default" to the "disabledGroups" line or do I need to do something else?

[molten vigil]

that would disable all treasure bags yeah

[molten vigil]

sounds like an issue with the midnight robe, you should report it to relics

[molten vigil]

!moreinfo

[waxen brook]

1. What Minecraft version are you using? (1.19.2, 1.20.1, ...)
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way? (e.g. changing mod versions, adding/removing mods)
4. What version of the modpack are you using? (v11, v9, etc)
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash?

Required:

Open the game directory (right click pack -> open folder), navigate to the "crash-reports" folder and upload the latest available crash report.
If there is no crash report, navigate to the logs folder and upload "latest.log."
If there is no log, navigate to the base pack directory and upload the hs_err_pid file, if there is one.

[molten vigil]

please only ask in the channel of the modpack you're actually playing

[sleek whale]

1-1.20.1
2-CurseForge
3-haven't changed anything
4-v35
5-it doesn't necessarily crash the game more so kicks me out before doing so
6-Eating a Bone or skeleton skull as a Revenant origin

Since the game it self hasnt crashed im assuming there isnt a crash report

[fathom saffron]

I changed the config file like this but I still get a ton of those bags

[molten vigil]

can you send the latest.log file then

!logs

[waxen brook]

To better assist with fixing your issue, we will need some logs:

• Curseforge -> Right click the modpack instance -> „Open Folder”.
• ATLauncher -> Click „Open Folder” on the modpack instance.
• MultiMC -> Select your instance and click „Instance Folder” on the right.
• PrismLauncher -> Select your instance and click „Folder” on the right.
• For servers -> Open the folder containing your server files.

To find the „latest.log” file, navigate to the 'logs' folder.
To find the „hs_err_pid.log” file, simply look for the file name after opening the instance folder.
To find a crash report, navigate to the „crash-reports” folder and find the most recent file after your crash occurred.

Once located, please upload the requested file here. If it fails, upload to https://mclo.gs/ and share the link here.

[lament ledge]

the mini dragons level up or grow larger at all?

[lean dragon]

Is there something that causes Monster Spawners to have a lower item tier drop than the mobs/area they come from? Friends and I have a spawner grinder set up but can't get anything ancient+ despite the mobs, same level and area, dropping ancient+

[lilac helm]

You can't get affix items from spawners

[lean dragon]

I have been?

[lilac helm]

Oh my bad

Yes you can

But you can't get Ancient items

[lean dragon]

Got'cha. It caps out at godforged?

[lilac helm]

Nope, it gets everything but Ancient

So you can get artifact and heirloom too

[lean dragon]

Okay, except I haven't been. The highest tier I've been getting is godforged despite high 80s endermen, in the end dimension

Yet killing the endermen not from the spawner drops ancient/artifacts/heirlooms

(I'm on MMC4, v35 if that helps)

[lilac helm]

Yeah you'll need to kill higher level mobs to get artifact and heirloom

Which can easily be done by getting as many skill points as possible and moving your spawner further out in the End

[lean dragon]

What's the min level for artifacts/heirlooms?

[lilac helm]

^

This is pinned btw

Normally you can't get affix items from spawners, but this one mechanic allows you to

[lean dragon]

Got'cha. Sorry for missing it. I need to bug report then. I've been getting ancient/artifact/heirloom items from mobs lower level than the pinned message with 46 luck and looting 5

I would try to test this more but I'm dealing with another bug with endermen teleporting me around despite being anchored

[lilac helm]

Because natural mob spawns can drop other affix items, and those items can include Ancient, Artifact and Heirloom

So a vanilla enderman farm can get these items, but it's specifically disabled for spawner mobs

[lilac helm]

Which ties back to this

[lean dragon]

Got'cha

While I have you on the horn, would you happen to know anything about Endermen teleporting players around? The initial convo happened at where I'm replying to. Leum tried to help me troubleshoot but we weren't really all that successful

[lilac helm]

Would honestly have no idea
My two guesses are that either it's your origin or a mob effect on your gear is causing you to teleport

Or it might be the midnight robe

[lean dragon]

Not wearing a midnight robe. We tried:

• Swapping to Human Origin
• No gear, no curios, raw fisticuffs
• Verified nothing on the passive skill tree that would teleport me
• Anchoring Charm

It's only happening to me, not other players

[lilac helm]

Is it all endermen?

Or just some in particular

[lean dragon]

I want to say all of them, however I've only encountered forest and regular enderment so far in the End

[lilac helm]

Cause I want to say that it's an End Island Enderman, but if it's all then that's different

Can you try getting a single enderman, preferably not in the End, and seeing if it teleports you?

[lean dragon]

Ye

One sec

[lilac helm]

And if it's super tall and has purple horns, then it's the End Island Enderman
And I believe those teleport you on default

[lean dragon]

Overworld endermen teleported me as well, however something else I just discovered: I did not attack it yet. I was close to it when it teleported

[lilac helm]

Interesting

[tranquil solstice]

@lean dragon Are you using any tetra tools?

[lilac helm]

That looks like a Tetra tool to me

[lean dragon]

Yeah. Hammer and pickaxe

[tranquil solstice]

Do any of those have an end-rod upgrade?

Or end-rod part?

[lean dragon]

They do not. My current pickaxe has two warden pickaxe heads, a pythadendron handle with stormscale wrap, and a Diamond+. The Hammer has a bone handle and two blackstone heads and diamond socket

[tranquil solstice]

Hrmpf.

[lilac helm]

pythadendron is end material

Maybe that?

[tranquil solstice]

Could be. I'd drop those tetra tools in a chest and see if it still happens.

[lilac helm]

^

[lean dragon]

Lemme test real quick

Yeah, still teleports

[tranquil solstice]

😖

The only other mod that ChatGPT is suggesting is quark, but if that was the case it should affect everyone on the server. So I am as clueless as before.

[lapis pelican]

stop using ai to fix your problems 😭

it's horrible for the environment and horrible at proper answers

[tranquil solstice]

It's not my problem, just trying to help someone 🙂

[lapis pelican]

Don't use it for any problems.

[tranquil solstice]

Can you help?

[lapis pelican]

My best suggestion is likely waiting on muon who'd have the better answer for this. Make sure to mention which mmc this is happening in

[tranquil solstice]

^

[lapis pelican]

what origin are you using @lean dragon what items are in all your slots

[tranquil solstice]

^

[lean dragon]

Typically I'm Pixie Origin. My items are the same as the video I posted here: #medieval-mc-forge message

[lapis pelican]

including curios?

[lean dragon]

Curios were removed, yes

[lapis pelican]

what status effects were given when messing with the endermen?

[lean dragon]

With gear/curios on:

Armor:
Deepsight, Instant Mana, Resilience when attacked

Curios:
Inflict Blindness, Instant Mana, Inflict Stunned, Inflict Chilly, Rage, Resistance when attacked

Should it matter, the armor set is: Warden Head, Chest, Boots and Tide Guardian Leggings

[tranquil solstice]

Is there any status effect you get when being teleported, apart from nausea?

[lean dragon]

Hunger, but nothing else abnormally

[lapis pelican]

I can't recall the item that does it, but there's one that when it comes in contact with endermen or a threat it'll auto-tp you away.

[tranquil solstice]

Do you remember which mod it's from?

[lapis pelican]

Zero clue,

[lean dragon]

I think it's that cloak cHin was talking about

[tranquil solstice]

Hmm. I haven't heard of that before.

[lapis pelican]

Nah it's separate from the robe

[tranquil solstice]

Midnight Robe? Nah, I am using that one permanently.

[lean dragon]

Got'cha. I'm unfortunately away from the comp for a bit but I can check when I get back

[tranquil solstice]

I know of the Evasion spell, which makes you teleport away whenever you're about to get hit. But that's as close as it gets.

@lapis pelican Appreciate your attempt to help btw.

[lilac helm]

Was gonna point out Evasion but there's no Evasion spell in sight

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah, and it would happen with every enemy, not just endermen :/

cHin, have you heard of such an item that HiddenTides mentioned? I have never come across anything like that.

[lilac helm]

Eye of the Nebula came in mind but Enigmatic Legacy isn't in this pack and it wouldn't explain the tp away even though there was no attack

[lilac helm]

back to work on the esoteric bosses

[tranquil solstice]

Looking forward to it.

[lilac helm]

made a test zombie dummy to start with
I'll do the actual bosses once we get a feel for how much power we want

[tranquil solstice]

The zombie dummy gets the boss equipment to see how it performs I suppose?

[lilac helm]

oh yeah

Now two thing we do have to play around

Is the leveling of the mob

And attribute caps

Cause by default mobs can only have 1 million hp

only 1 million

[tranquil solstice]

A. million.

[lilac helm]

Yep

we got to do everything to increase its longevity past 1 million

[tranquil solstice]

How effective can armor get?

[lilac helm]

0 when you have magic

[tranquil solstice]

Fair, but when we combine it with 99% spell resistance?

I was more referring to Apothesis' change of armor effectiveness, I think there is a cap?

[lilac helm]

well 1,000,000 is the cap

[tranquil solstice]

That should do, lol.

[lilac helm]

Which still does pretty much nothing if the player is dealing millions of damage in a single hit

[tranquil solstice]

Do you expect that to be the norm?

[lilac helm]

... I mean we should have a little forgiveness

I'd rather have the bosses be easily beaten by the highest of gear than be too hard and frustrating

[tranquil solstice]

I agree. We should probably assume that most players won't have the ultimate maxed out gear once they reach that stage.

[shrewd sable]

Does anyone know how to turn off the structure regenerator?? I opped myself to change some settings and now regen structures is on by default and every time I walk near frostmaw it spawns another version of it bc of structure regen. console info below VVV

[20:34:40] [Server thread/INFO] [de.mu.me.wo.st.StructureRegenerator/]: Found structure ati_structures:ice_tribe at BlockPos{x=1600, y=72, z=-1915}
[20:34:40] [Server thread/INFO] [de.mu.me.wo.st.StructureRegenerator/]: Regenerated structure ati_structures:ice_tribe in 35 ms

[lilac helm]

I'd say about 1 million is a fair cutoff

[tranquil solstice]

Definitely worth testing it with that, yes.

[lilac helm]

If multiple million is possible, 1 will be a decent milestone mark

Also

zombie

[tranquil solstice]

You can disable it in the config like [this](#medieval-mc-forge message).

[tranquil solstice]

What a cutie.

[shrewd sable]

god bless you

[tranquil solstice]

u²

@lilac helm Since gems and affix gear drops even with KotA I always thought that those are not part of the loot table. But for some reason the Loot Pinata affix works on gems as well. Any idea why? Dropped from one mob:

[lilac helm]

Pretty sure Festive works on every loot source

[tranquil solstice]

So it should theoretically work on affix items? I've never had that happen. (Had it happen on affixed boss items like Cataclysm weapons, but not the Apotheosis affix drops).

[molten vigil]

it doesn't work on equipped gear specifically

which apoth boss equipment is

pretty sure that's the only restriction on it

[lilac helm]

Yeah original drops that then got affixed will dupe

[tranquil solstice]

That makes sense 👍

[lilac helm]

But yeah I'll figure out balancing these bosses later
I just don't clearly want something like this to happen (which is why I chose the certain mobs that I did)

(creative flight)

Instances where I can just stay out of range of the mob while still being able to attack it

[tranquil solstice]

Do you think it's possible to prevent that? There are a number of ways to keep them at distance.

[lilac helm]

The solution isn't just making sure that the mob is at a close distance; it's making sure that they have ranged attacks that are a threat even at a far distance

This is why mobs such as the Warden are a great candidate; its sonic boom attack is long, targeting AND piercing

And I can also give them both follow range, which will make them chase the player from a longer distance, and step height for those that need it, so that its harder to trap them

Distance is fine. We just need to make sure that the player still has to be skillful and dodging, instead of just hovering over one place and hacking away at the mobs

[tranquil solstice]

What about standing in a 1x1 hole beneath it?

[lilac helm]

In other words; anti-cheese

[lilac helm]

Well most all the mobs have projectiles so that's not really going to be effective

And most all of them can go right through blocks too

[tranquil solstice]

Oki good.

That's lovely.

[lilac helm]

anti-cheese mechanism in full effect

[tranquil solstice]

XD

[lilac helm]

a lot goes on here when choosing candidates

I remember when a lot of people were scared that when the Warden was coming out, that it would be easily cheeseable with methods like pilliaring up 3 blocks
Fortunately that wasn't the case :D

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah, the Warden is mean.

[lilac helm]

Yes

And we use that to our advantage to create the perfect Esoteric bosses

[tranquil solstice]

:)

[lilac helm]

well it would seem that everything I currently have set up is working nicely

[tranquil solstice]

Glad to hear that.

[craggy vale]

Medieval MC 5 - v24 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.21.1 [NEOFORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
4. v24
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | debug.log | crash-2025-08-15_22.06.37-client.txt | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

Added mods:
artifacts-neoforge-13.0.5.jar
BuildingWands-neoforge-MC1.21-2.8.3.jar
elevatorid-neoforge-1.21.1-1.11.4.jar
ExplorersCompass-1.21.1-3.0.1-neoforge.jar
ironchest-1.21-neoforge-16.0.7.jar
rarcompat-1.21-0.9.6.jar
sophisticatedbackpacks-1.21.1-3.24.13.1245.jar
sophisticatedcore-1.21.1-1.3.42.986.jar

Removed mods:
additionalentityattributes-neoforge-2.0.0+1.21.1.jar

crashes when loading pack

[molten vigil]

issue with relics artifacts compat

looks like you need to update it

[craggy vale]

How would I go about fixing that?

[molten vigil]

i don't know, you added it

[craggy vale]

in the files, is that mod rarcompat?

nvm. fixed thanks for the help

[agile blade]

there's a very annoying bug in MMC5 for mages, im a pyromancer, using candlestick, ignitium blaze tome and 2 fire power rings, everytime i die or rejoin

i have to re equip all 4 things so i actually get the stat out of them

[lean oak]

anyone know any good weapons and armor for revenant movement too please

[agile blade]

Does enchants such as capturing, looting etc on staffs affect kills using spells?

in MMC5

Also does Thread of life drain affect iron's spells?

[tight coral]

Interesting Easter egg I found in a corner behind hay bales and sponges in a villager building.

[agile blade]

w

[sleek whale]

Here

[outer hollow]

Uploaded latest.log from @sleek whale to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/YM90SB5

[sleek whale]

i think its at 13:25:19

that seems to be the issue

something food properties related

[cerulean magnet]

Your log doesn't go as far

It's limited to 25.000 lines only for mclogs

but it's spamming a lot of errors related to Blood Magic / Curios

No idea what's causing that,s o we wait for Muon

[sleek whale]

you can just download the whole file

that way it shows everything

im not so technically well versed so idk how to sent just the important stuff

[lilac helm]

one esoteric ignis ready for testing

:D

2510 damage 💀

And that's not even the sword

I've done something wrong

Cause even with the best attributes, he is literally immortal

[lilac helm]

Well I am dealing some damage now

(and when I say some, I mean 1)

[tender yacht]

Lmao

[winter herald]

Perhaps if you were nicer you would get more help? You are acting like a child and a jerk

Yes

Does this modpaack change minecolonies to not use food? None of my colonists have hunger bars

[agile blade]

dawg this dude got mad over not optimizing his own game knowing is a heavy modpack

[winter herald]

Yeah, its probably an angry kid who needs to touch grass

This happening to anyone else?

[granite fog]

How do I get the Forgotten Crown without creative?

[winter herald]

lol the kid is still here crying

mommy wont buy him a powerful enough pc

[analog wedge]

Hey ! I'm trying to create a server with MMC4 but I have this crash...how can I fix that ?

[outer hollow]

Uploaded crash-2025-08-16_18.14.36-fml.txt from @analog wedge to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/3fJAAt4

[winter herald]

This back and fourth is fun, but I'm going to go back to actually playing the pack... with my PC that runs it fine. Its a lot of fun!

[agile blade]

yk you dont get anything from raging, you are supposed to optimize you game with a guide which i forgot where it is

but im pretty sure asap a mod sees this, you are getting in trouble

[rancid relic]

Does anyone know how to get divine blood vials on the V35 of MMC4?

I've been looking online for them and almost every source I look on is outdated I think it has something to do with the Sunleia boss but I can't find the spawner block for her in the pyramid structure

[fluid sage]

Ban Result:

Reason: don't bother appealing ( harassment towards modpack, members, and indirect toward staff))
Moderator: @forest wharf

Banned:

hugepeapea [1342556791208149142]

[molten vigil]

man i’m glad i got to read some of that

lmfao

[rancid relic]

LMAO Was funny

Sitting here researching and then I got a whole load of some dude getting rage baited

Never seen someone get so into it

[forest wharf]

i let it sit for a bit earlier when it was LESS terrible and was like iii will see if muon wants to handle this, came back, went yeah ur done

[molten vigil]

thanks I’ll need to look at this on my desktop, will be a little bit

[molten vigil]

i just woke up and was about 3/4 of the way through when you banned them lol

[molten vigil]

pretty sure this error means your Forge version is too old

any reason you’re not using the serverpack start script?

[lilac helm]

i saw a few posts on the more friendlier side, don't want to know what happened here

[molten vigil]

oh woops this is a different error - you actually just have a client mod on the server. same fix though, use the serverpack

[molten vigil]

what modpack version? I wasn’t aware of anything disabling minecolonies hunger

[molten vigil]

I think looting does. Capturing is probably swords only (don’t even think Staves can get it)

[lilac helm]

Last I checked looting did not work with spells on staffs, only when used for melee

I think Capturing can be put on but again it's probably for melee only

[analog wedge]

yes, I saw that after...but MMC3 and MMC5 don't work too (with the server version of ATLuncher)

[molten vigil]

use the serverpack from Curseforge, under Additional Files

[analog wedge]

And, Is there a way to install the modpack MMC4 directly from wget on Debian ?

[molten vigil]

yeah the server pack is just a zip you can download

[analog wedge]

oh nice

[molten vigil]

well

I don't know if curseforge gives you access to the actual download link

hmm

they don't, but there are enough tweaks into serverpacks specifically that I think it's worth downloading the file manually and transferring it onto your server

[analog wedge]

it will just take more time lol

[agile blade]

they can, but idk if it does work

[molten vigil]

yes

just checked

[agile blade]

damn

W

anyways just got a beacon from a wandering trader for 25 emerals

😭

[molten vigil]

well

at least they’re not actually that useful

[analog wedge]

It works ! But we can't chose an origine...is it normal ?

[molten vigil]

it’s a bug with Origins Forge, try reconnecting

if that doesn’t work try restarting the server

[analog wedge]

And if I give to us an Orb of origine...it works lol ?

[tranquil solstice]

Sunleia drops the divine blood vials on V35 of MMC4. But her spawner block isn't in a pyramid, it's in a temple-like looking structure. Also in deserts though.

[lilac helm]

Well currently have a dps of about 70k and I'm dealing like 50-200 damage per hit to Esoteric Ignis

[tranquil solstice]

And he has a million hp?

[lilac helm]

Currently about 200k, but I added a 95% resistance so really 4 million

[agile blade]

ignis made me stay till 6 am yesterday

because bitch destroyed my boots and helmet

had to re obtain everything (1h) and then re fight him (another hour)

from 3:30 am~ (already late i was gonna sleep after killing ignis

i went to bed at 6 am

truly peak boss

[granite fog]

How should I progress this mod?

[agile blade]

become one with the hive

submit to ars nouveau

make a farm using drygmy's of EVERY MOB IN THE GAME

BULK TILL A POINT WHICH IS COMPLETLY INNECESARY

YET KEEP GOING

[molten vigil]

that’s a lot of everything

[granite fog]

I just got Iron. 😭

[agile blade]

its not enough

its never enough

[granite fog]

Should I go to mining for diamonds or exploring?

[agile blade]

exploring

a lot of the fun is the structures

and when u get one shot by some ancient god u find

u may go mining

[molten vigil]

the way to progress is generally either exploring structures or descending into insanity performing crazed wizard experiments in your home

[agile blade]

if mmc5 had medieval origins... more specific revenant..

[molten vigil]

cronch

[agile blade]

u were working on somehow adding medieval origins to 1.21.1 right?

[molten vigil]

it currently launches on neoforge

quite a few things don’t work

getting there though

[agile blade]

w dev

[lilac helm]

ok just reached 1 million dps using a terrible sword and when it crits it deals insane damage

Like 50k

And we got to remember that any bosses' true health can be reduced by like 15% with execution affix

[tranquil solstice]

Execution affix doesn't sound familiar. Is that an Ancient affix?

[tight coral]

Don't think the raiders need this structure anymore anyways

[faint folio]

guys can you help me with it

[tranquil solstice]

Oh for axes, interesting. Never looked at axe affixes.

[lilac helm]

well heavy weapons

So axes or a two handed weapon

[tranquil solstice]

Ah, I see. What is better though: a heavy weapon, terrible sword or Celestisynth?

[lilac helm]

Ultimately I'd probably say Celestisynth

[tranquil solstice]

Interesting, thanks.

[eager kraken]

Hey, I am trying to host a server, but I'm having some difficulty. Had issues with fabric (which I put in the other channel), so tried forge using ATL and getting an entirely different error.

1. Minecraft version: 1.20.1
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? ATL 3. Have you changed the modpack in any way? N/A
3. What version of the modpack are you using? v 35
4. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? Crashes on start up.
5. What steps cause the crash? Launch or launch with gui on ATLauncher.

Gives the error:
Error occurred during initialization of VM
java.lang.Error: A command line option has attempted to allow or enable the Security Manager. Enabling a Security Manager is not supported.
at java.lang.System.initPhase3(java.base@24.0.2/System.java:1947)

[tranquil solstice]

Java 24?

[eager kraken]

Yes

[tranquil solstice]

I could be wrong, but I don't think Minecraft 1.20.1 runs on Java 24.

[eager kraken]

Which Java should I run? 21?

[tranquil solstice]

Yes, either 17 or 21.

[lilac helm]

Balancing this is actually kind of tricky

Cause some attacks won't do anything

And then others just one shot

I have 1400 armor, full Protection and 11 rows of hearts

[faint folio]

Guys can you help me with resourse packs

[tranquil solstice]

Are you 1-shot, or is he 1-shot? XD

[lilac helm]

Me :D

I'm getting clapped here

[tranquil solstice]

Well that's better than the other way around! 😂

What is your dodge chance?

[lilac helm]

Like 56%

[tranquil solstice]

Crazy, okay.

[lilac helm]

40% comes from one gem

[tranquil solstice]

What??

The best gem I saw was 15%.

[lilac helm]

Yeah gem of the Blue Skies

[tranquil solstice]

Ah wow, haven't farmed those dimensions yet.

[lilac helm]

Honestly if I'm doing esoteric balancing on top of this, may as well nerf that one gem part

Honestly Dodge Chance is literally being a coin flip on life or death here

[tranquil solstice]

That's kinda funny though. I think that's funnier than guaranteed death.

[faint folio]

Guys, can you show me how you have the resource packs in what order they are?

[tranquil solstice]

In your modpack directory is a \configureddefaults folder, inside is the default options.txt that contains the default resource pack order.

[faint folio]

god bless you

[tranquil solstice]

You too.

[lilac helm]

I BROUGHT 15 TOTEMS OF UNDYING
EVERY LAST ONE GOT POPPED AND I STILL DIED

[tranquil solstice]

My gut says you made this a little too hard, lol.

[lilac helm]

music is a banger at least

[tranquil solstice]

You mean your funeral tune.

[lilac helm]

Dark Souls in Medieval Minecraft :D

[tranquil solstice]

Very fitting.

[lilac helm]

I mean I have a few changes to make too

Give them permanent glowing instead of only a few minutes of it

I need to lower the speed down a bunch

[fathom saffron]

I have an elytra with "Curse of Binding" and "Soulbound", is there a way to get rid of it?

[tranquil solstice]

You can remove curses with a Prismatic Cobweb. Though I don't know what Soulbound is, I guess an MMC5 enchantment.

[lilac helm]

Elytra's don't truly break so... rip

[lilac helm]

Chances are it's already equipped so he can't do that

[tranquil solstice]

Oh you already equipped it?

That would suck a little.

[lilac helm]

A lot since now it's technically stuck forever

Once it breaks it's just dead space unless it has a form of mending on it too

[fathom saffron]

It's not going to break

[lilac helm]

That's something

And it's affixed too so it help

Finally

[tranquil solstice]

GG!

[lilac helm]

Had to more or less fight it all over again cause after I died it got like 125k health back

[tranquil solstice]

How long would you say did it take you in total?

[lilac helm]

It took me like half an hour probably
And I has 2 million dps too, twice the cap that we set for ourselves

I would defenitely like to trim its hp a little
Cause a slightly long battle is fine, however after a while it just gets boring and tedious

[tranquil solstice]

30 minutes just to be able to craft the reforging table x)

[lilac helm]

Especially if I can do my gem rpg mechanic which could potentially just buff health even further

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah. And people like me who get nowhere near 2 million dps would sit there for 2 hours XD

[lilac helm]

Actually I don't think external sources can buff hp anyways
It's there but the boss doesn't heal up to that full amount

I think I'm gonna reduce the full resistance amount from 95% to 90%
That effectively halves it hp

And I'm going to make the hp range smaller too

[lilac helm]

After all this was on the lower end of hp

[austere osprey]

can you evolve as a siren or wood elf???

[tranquil solstice]

Evolve in what way?

[austere osprey]

like a fox can evolving into a kitsune

[tranquil solstice]

I don't think Siren and Wood Elf can evolve into anything.

[austere osprey]

ah rip

can a siren get any stronger at all???

aside from base weapons and armor???

[fathom saffron]

Is there an easy way to change the wings from the Icarus mod to the "Cape" slot instead of the "Back" slot?

[tranquil solstice]

I'm fairly certain that Sirens have all available abilities from the beginning. Equipment is what makes them stronger.

[lilac helm]

There I made a bunch of changes

Resistance: 95% -> 90%
Health: +189000 - 378000 -> +189000 - 207900
Speed: x4-6 -> x2-3
Attack Damage: x135.3-270.6 -> x108.24-135.3
Current HP Damage: +0% -> +15%-20%
Protection Pierce: +16-24 -> +4-8
Protection Shred: +0% -> +20-25%
Dodge Chance: +25% -> +20%
Healing Received: 100% -> 50%

Nerfed attack damage a lot and also made it scale to the player some

I nerfed Dodge Chance a little cause it was really annoying when trying to attack just to get block

Heck I may lower it more just for Ignis since he already blocks so many hits with his shield

Again, we're aiming for fun here, not frustrating

[tranquil solstice]

What's up with that healing received? Is that about the 125k it got after you died?

[lilac helm]

No, it's more because Ignis heals after every hit

Also more or less just for Ignis

[tranquil solstice]

Wouldn't it be good to keep it then to make players be smart and get healing-prevention?

Or is Ignis immune to those?

[lilac helm]

I'll also be adding a healing nerf for the Nether Gauntlet because he has a super fast regen, and even healing prevention doesn't help that much

[tranquil solstice]

Hmm, alright.

[lilac helm]

He is actually immune

[tranquil solstice]

How rude.

[lilac helm]

Anyways
With the Ignis changes done, let's add Maledictus

Done
Just changed the entity, the size, and a few attributes

I removed the healing restriction

And upped the dodge chance a little

For Maledictus

[agile blade]

uhm so

im trying to apply

Fire Upgrade orbs to my

Ignis spellbook right

every time i even put my mouse on the outcome my game crashes

ill send crash asap

[molten vigil]

we do know about this one, but there’s not too much that can be done at the moment

waiting on some changes from the accessories mod

Spellbooks can get apotheosis affixes now though so I would just do that + gems

[lilac helm]

Ok I should have done my research
Warden is getting scrapped
I thought a certain attribute would increase its sonic boom damage but apparently it doesn't

Yep I just can't affect it

So Warden is off the list

Next is the Wither

Ok unfortunately I can't make the skulls fly faster but I can affect their damage

Wither is great anyways cause of its half hp shield

[agile blade]

Ohh i see

well damn

ill have to miss on that 15%

im rn drowing in desperation trying to know how tf i can make cataclysm spellbooks ignis spells

[fallen gazelle]

why do i get thorn damage on me when i attack mobs in medieval mc neoforge (mmc5)

it happens on every mob

[lilac helm]

Any chance your weapon has Curse of Lolth

[fallen gazelle]

but i get this dmg with every weapon i use

even with a knife from farmer's delight

even when i punch

[tight coral]

Well this is certainly an annoying bug. They have beds, but they, for some reason, refuse to use them.

[cerulean magnet]

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[agile blade]

Barbed ring

Check your ring, there's barbed ring which gives a pretty damn big stat boost but you take damage

[fallen gazelle]

oooh i see…

[tranquil solstice]

Either I am doing something wrong (which is very well possible) or some of the skill tree bonuses don't work. My skill tree should give me the following crit chance increasements:

But my newly made and enchanted sword only grants the affix and gem crit chance:

[lilac helm]

It's a different form of Critical Hit

Kind of like the Terrible Sword

[tranquil solstice]

None of these though?

[lilac helm]

No it's not an attribute

It's a mechanic

[tranquil solstice]

The skill tree gives percentages, what's the base value? If it's different from all the attributes, affixes and gems, I suppose you cannot increase the base value?

[lilac helm]

No, just from the skills in the skill tree

[lilac helm]

Anyways
I gave this some thought

And I was thinking
I might add it after all, but NOT as an Esoteric boss

Probably an Artifact or Heirloom boss

If we're turning Deep Dark dimension into an endgame dimension, we should have more bosses than just Esoteric bosses

And besides, it's Deep Dark dimension, he should be there

On the other news
I might have a new candidate for an Esoteric boss

[tranquil solstice]

Oh?

[lilac helm]

Chances are, you've probably never seen this mob

Cause normally

You can only find it at the world border

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah, that doesn't look familiar.

[analog wedge]

Hi ! How can I optimize the modpack ?

[lilac helm]

Already fully optimized

but here's some resources

!fps

[waxen brook]

https://wiki.lunapixel.gg/performance-guide

[lilac helm]

!tps

[waxen brook]

Please follow the guide here for changing the Java version your server uses. This will improve performance dramatically. If you are on a third party server host, you likely can not change the Java version your server uses. Bisect Hosting and a few VPS providers do allow changing Java version, though, which can usually be done through your server dashboard.

The method on Bisect is to simply go to the main dashboard page, and select "GraalVM 22" as the Java distribution. If it crashes, use 21 instead.

For further performance improvements, you can also follow this guide.

Reducing server render distance in the server.properties file is also a very good way of reducing lag. Most of our modpacks include mods like Bobby and Farsight, which make it so reducing server render distance will not affect players.

If lag persists, run the following command ingame:
/spark profiler start --only-ticks-over 50
Then, send the link in this channel.

[lilac helm]

This is the Farseer from Alex's Mobs

It can fly and shoot lasers at you

And it's most deadly perk

Is that all attacks from it bypass all armor and protection

[analog wedge]

ouch

[tranquil solstice]

Well.... what fun :D

[lilac helm]

Yes, so instead of defense, it's all focused on how much healing and health you have

[tranquil solstice]

Not that much, I focussed on armor. At this point I'll need a separate set of equipment for each boss 😂

[lilac helm]

Oh yeah at the current rate you'll need a whole new set of gear

Do you know about the Augmenting Table?

[tranquil solstice]

It takes an hour to augment all the gear, lol. Might as well make a new set then.

[lilac helm]

It's really just grinding for ancient items

If you haven't already, you should seriously consider building an enderman farm in the End

The vanilla type, not one with a spawner

[tranquil solstice]

I'll probably have to do that, yeah.

[lament ledge]

are there certain parmeters that are needed for unique creatures to spawn (like bosses that are blue or green, etc). Can i spawn them in a mob spawner?

Do they only spawn in certain biomes?

I see that unique creatures spawn a heck of lot more in nether (but i dont know where they spawn, just, somewhere but only sometimes show up on my map)

I made this as a mob spawn:

[agile blade]

way better than the guy who went berserk the other day lmfao

😭

[rare jolt]

Its a way to remove the charm of keeping from my server?

[tranquil solstice]

If MMC5 has the mod ItemObliterator you could add it to the disabled items there.

[outer hollow]

@analog wedge requested deletion of this link.

[lament ledge]

what is the luck percent of finding more rares? Is its 20 luck = 20% increase on rarity?

[molten vigil]

They can't spawn from a spawner, and the rules for spawning vary by dimension

iirc the overworld bosses require skylight, so that setup won't work

[lilac helm]

Added Artifact and Heirloom Warden to the list

[molten vigil]

If you were looking for more I might suggest looking into Scylla or the Nightwarden

don't think those were on your list

[lilac helm]

Will definitely look into those

[molten vigil]

the Nightwarden should scale if you give it spell power, I've not checked

[lilac helm]

Need to nerf the damage outputs of the main bosses some more though cause if I thought Ignis was problematic, Maledictus was destroying me (nothing like getting dunked on)

[lament ledge]

So, this is fun

just chilling on my bee

[molten vigil]

We have armor damage limit so gear won't break, one-shots are probably not that terrible

If you want esoteric items you simply must git gud

[lilac helm]

frfr

[lilac helm]

Yeah I was using gear with Eternal Stella

And I made the boss gear unbreakable too so it wouldn't get shredded by players too

Surprisingly that did carry over to the dropped item, but multiple of the armor sets I'm using already are unbreakable, and for Esoteric items I don't think this harms it, especially since players could and probably would just use Eternal Stellas right after getting it

And I don't have Glass Sword in the list of weapons so don't worry about that

(even though Esoteric's durability affix can go over 100% and just make it unbreakable anyways)

Will look into Scylla and Nightwarden too
May check Obsidilith too since I forgot that he does go through invulnerability phrases where he could potentially be dangerous (and ofc I could always just make him immune to arrows too if he isn't already)

[analog wedge]

How can I use this ?

[lilac helm]

Just press the cast button

And it'll cast the spell

Nightwarden seems to be a bust cause you need something to "start the ritual"
So unless it's like a nbt switch that I can flip on, that's down the drain

Same reason why some Cataclysm bosses like Harbinger aren't on the list, they need an activation item

[analog wedge]

But what is this button in the key binds ?

[lilac helm]

Oh wait it summons a completely different entity

So maybe I can do this

[tranquil solstice]

"Cast Selected Spell"

[analog wedge]

thx bro !

[lilac helm]

Oh yeah it scales

Ok so Nightwarden seems like a good candidate
The only thing I'm concerned about is that it leaves behind one of its dead forms at where it spawned when it dies, which I don't think can be removed without commands

Oh Cataclysm has a new boss?

[rare jolt]

Can u give me some help? i have no idea how to use JSON configuration on this mod, and the description its also not help me :/

[tranquil solstice]

I'll assume that the config looks the same on MMC5 as on MMC4. This section about items that are unusable should (to my little knowledge) look like this:

  // Items here will be unusable completely
  //    Example: minecraft:diamond
  "blacklisted_items": [
    "twilightforest:charm_of_keeping_1",
    "twilightforest:charm_of_keeping_2",
    "twilightforest:charm_of_keeping_3"
  ],

Maybe it would be enough to just put the level 1 there (since you need that to craft the higher tiers, but I am not sure if tier 2 and 3 cannot be found in chests so I put all of them there.

[lament ledge]

C by default

[rare jolt]

Nice, so i have to create a new JSON or i use the one who come with the mod?

[tranquil solstice]

In your modpack directory should be a \config folder, and inside it a file called item_obliterator.json5

[rare jolt]

Okay ill try, ty much!

[tranquil solstice]

If you can't find it, make sure MMC5 even has the mod.

[lilac helm]

I don't think it does

I'm not even sure if it's out for 1.21

[tranquil solstice]

That's unfortunate. Do you know which mod MMC5 is using to disable items?

[lilac helm]

Don't think it is disabling many items
Any items that are disabled (if any) probably just have their crafting recipe removed

Ok it is out for 1.21

[rare jolt]

Yes they say something like (item functions has been removed), some like that with ()

I did find 2 of those

[lilac helm]

Well that needs to get buffed a bunch
I summoned an Esoteric Wither... And two shot it

Turns out Cataclysm having the damage caps really helped their bosses while everything else is just super vulnerable

[rare jolt]

like this?

[tranquil solstice]

Remove the first two lines ("blacklisted_items": ["examplemod:example_item") and you're good to go.

[rare jolt]

Its works, many thanks!

[tranquil solstice]

Glad it does! And yw :)

[rare jolt]

Anyone know what im doing wrong? this just doesn't work

this one works, but the other dont

[lilac helm]

My one guess is that the name of the attribute is misspelled

Otherwise I don't see any issues

Nope that's good

What's your file pathing?

[rare jolt]

SERVER_ONLY_MMC5_v24 - copia\config\paxi\datapacks\mmc_apotheosis\data\medieval\tier_augments\ascent

[lilac helm]

that looks good

[tranquil solstice]

If you put too high a level of Straddle Jump on your Straddleboard you get stuck in the Nether ceiling...

[charred gyro]

I have a question

[lean dagger]

https://dontasktoask.com

[charred gyro]

nvm i figured it out sorry

[thin solstice]

hey guys

been trying to play medieval mc by lan

and it just wont work

[lean dagger]

please be more specific

"it wont work" tells us nothing

[thin solstice]

do i have to make any specific configurations to be able? it doesn't show any exceptions, every time i try join my friend, and vice versa, it shows "invalid player data"

[thin solstice]

sorry 😔

[lean dagger]

Please read the full contents of the ⁠#get-support channel for us to provide assistance.

[thin solstice]

ok

[tight coral]

Is it possible to swap out a spawner's mob, provided I have a mob spawn egg? I want to make a specific mob farm, but I don't know if modifying a spawner in-game would work.

[tranquil solstice]

Yes, just right click the spawner with the spawn egg.

[tight coral]

Ahh ok. Now to find a spawner I haven't broken yet.

[agile blade]

Hello! is this the correct setting for ice and fire so dragons neither destroy or transform blocks?

[molten vigil]

Yeah Scylla is very cool

[agile blade]

MUON HELLO

[molten vigil]

I can make a patch to the nightwarden thing to just prevent it in the otherside

[agile blade]

i was wondering

do yk any way to make tamed things

[molten vigil]

yes those are it

[agile blade]

not able to be hit by other players

except summons?

[agile blade]

bet ty

because im 100% sure mages in my server with their 600% spell power will

accidentally one shot tamed pets

with big aoe attacks such as fire ball

(me)

[molten vigil]

BetterCombat has compat for this if you join their ftb team, Iron's does not yet afaik

[agile blade]

specially with us obtaining dragons

[agile blade]

yeah 10)%

100%

u think next patch could add it?

somehow if possible

[molten vigil]

perhaps

[agile blade]

cuz fireball has 49 blocks range

[molten vigil]

I'll definitely look into it

[agile blade]

i keep one shooting my friends w it

i have 650% fire spell power

so it deals like 2k

[molten vigil]

I'm not sure if Iron's has some universal existing vanilla ally targeting check I could add FTB teams compat to

[agile blade]

tysm

[agile blade]

would be cool if ftb added straight up no pvp for party members

[molten vigil]

yeah that would be great as a team flag

there's a very confusing pvp team flag that actually just applies to your team's claimed chunks

[agile blade]

my friend and i are the only mages in the server currently and we re very held back when we do big bosses with all the server

since we have to be really careful 😭

[agile blade]

yeah thats just nonsense

btw will this https://discord.com/channels/790272037578473512/1405014665334882457 be added? 🥹

[molten vigil]

Oh woops, if you're on the latest MMC5 that attribute has changed

I forgot to update the tier augments for it

it's now called "explosion_damage_multiplier" and is a multiplier instead of addition, so be careful with the values

same with projectile_damage_bonus

[molten vigil]

It's on the list!

[agile blade]

best dev

W

will dragons get that applied

our dragons currently arent applied by difficulty

bonuses

t5 have 2k hp

[molten vigil]

they don't have any world tier at all?

[agile blade]

i dont think so

whats vanilla t5 hp??

2k??

ill check

[molten vigil]

Do they have the tier next to their level in the nametag?

[agile blade]

oh yeah he does

summit

still 2k hp seems low...

u should add config to multiply hp scale of pets

W

[lament ledge]

how do i get to familiar home world?

[agile blade]

sniffer

and crystal berries

[lament ledge]

All are mythic pickaxe have this same affixes?

the 5x3 or 'turn into [different block]'?

nevermind, it doesnt, its just this one. can i cycle these?

Can i put gems in these ?

[agile blade]

idk try

😭

didnt know u could even do that to rings

maybe only gems that fit on everything can be used

[lament ledge]

no, i they wont, but dont know why they have socket without something to put in?

[agile blade]

idk

@molten vigil sorry for the ping but theres a bug where items with entities stored in it are bugged in the ars nouveau storage system and cant be took out and must be taken out from the repository itself

dragon horn, containment jar, etc

[flat swan]

Do you have a wiki for the game? So I can see the origins better?

[lean dagger]

press o ingame

[tight coral]

Okay going 59K blocks from my base was a really bad idea. I don't think my computer can handle it without constantly freezing.

[cerulean magnet]

The distance from spawn should not matter for performance, as most of the chunks are in an unloaded state (so the only possible issue is that you run out of disk space)

[tight coral]

Nope, I still have tons of disk space to spare.

[lilac helm]

Me casually chilling with like 25000% Blood Spell power in MMC4

[lilac helm]

Welp it would appear that this might be causing an issue
Cause when I spawn them, they're only spawning at about half health instead of full for some reason

Same goes for witches too (which also by default come with a -50% healing received)